[05:16] morning all [05:19] can someone help me with graphics at all? I need the Kubuntu logo to be White letters, not black... (for embroidery on Navy blue). [05:38] jussi: the whole logo? [05:38] Tm_T: yes [05:38] jussi: where's the source you're using? [05:38] Tm_T: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork [05:39] ha, was on that page already, thanks [05:39] :) [05:39] jussi: what format you need? [05:40] Tm_T: a decently large PNG should be fine [05:40] jussi: does the gears need to be reversed in colours too? [05:40] Tm_T: no [05:40] just the back letters white [05:40] so only the text, one moment I'll save this [05:41] Tm_T: see this: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/kubuntu-shirt-flu/ [05:42] ah, yes [05:45] jussi: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kubuntu-logo-lucid-1.png [05:45] transparent background, white text [05:46] Tm_T: thank you sir! [05:47] jussi: I simply opened svg on karbon, clicked the text, picked white colour, exported png [05:48] Tm_T: hehe... that would require me to even know that it was karbon needed to open svgs... :D [05:48] jussi: oh no, I simply opened the file and it was opened in karbon, first time for me to use karbon at all [05:48] ahh ok [05:49] Guess my lack of kofffeeeeeeeeeee is showing me up [05:49] this is how technology should work, you don't have to pick tools, they're just there for you (: [05:49] yup [05:50] hmmmm, I wonder... [05:50] I'll try do the same edit with vim just for the giggles [06:00] let's make it red [06:00] hehe [06:12] good morning [06:13] morning soee? [06:13] err, without the ? [06:13] :P [06:13] yes morning jussi :D [06:14] its 8:15 -.- [06:14] mornings... [06:17] :) [06:44] Goog Morning [07:28] Riddell: one final detail: What sizes did you order? Im thinking to go S:5, M:5, L:10, XL:5. [07:35] jussi: all male shirts at this point? [07:36] Tm_T: yeah, its too small a number for female ones, unfortunately. Its not I didnt think of it, but its not going to work for this order [07:37] I agree, unfortunately [07:37] jussi: let me know when female cuts are available [07:37] preferably both small and large sizes [07:38] Tm_T: when/if these sell out, I expect female will be next on the agenda. This is really about testing the waters [07:38] yup [07:38] Making sure the systems work etc [08:19] ScottK: kinda, I'm more actively looking at things to do in Frameworks to do for sure [09:09] hi i have downloaded kde-style-oxygen and all it's dependencies, copied oxygen.so to /usr/lib32/kde4/plugins/styles and determined all needed libaries with "ldd". It finds all libaries now (copied to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu) [09:09] I am on a 64 bit system and want to use 32 bit qt apps like skpye with oxygen style [09:10] switching to gtk as layout is not an option for me (it would use oxygen-gtk then) [09:11] so i started skype using "QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib32/kde4/plugins/styles/ skype" but i can't select oxygen [09:11] has anybody an idea what does not work? [09:12] i have heared this working from many sources, http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Enabling-oxygen-style-in-Skype-on-64-bit-systems-is-WAY-TOO-HARD/td-p/1695840 is one of them [09:13] i downloaded the packages from repo using sudo aptitude -o APT::Architecture="i386" download [09:15] how odd [09:15] yofel: I haven't signed your keys? [09:16] hm, no, at least here it doesn't say so [09:18] i have solved it :-)))) [09:19] in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf wa an entry "[Qt%20Plugin%20Cache%204.8.false]" [09:19] i have removed it and restarted skype ... everything looks fine === Oli`` is now known as Oli [09:20] it would be nice if there was a package to install oxygen 32 on 64 bit [09:23] are there any plans to package something like this? [09:26] i have wps office running which is also a qt 32 bit application ... but it does not use oxygen ... it works for skype though now [09:27] is there any way to establish the reason why it does not work? [09:27] on a 32 bit system theming works fine [09:33] which oxygen libary is responsible for the color scheme? [10:09] Hey Kubuntu people [10:09] * smartboyhw blames yofel and shadeslayer and Riddell of not replying to the e-mail [10:26] I'll try to do that later today [10:26] smartboyhw: want to update nepomuk and marble in the meantime? [10:27] yofel, uh, I can do it 1-2 hours later [10:30] sure [10:33] yofel, to confirm: I'm supposed to use the 4.11.0a versions for nepomuk and marble? [10:33] *nepomuk-core [10:34] Yeah === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [10:50] smartboyhw: yes [10:50] yofel, sure === dpm_ is now known as dpm [11:13] ScottK: ah hah, well it doesn't much cover me but I would like to look at getting them co-installable [11:20] * shadeslayer was doing paperwork all day today [11:20] I can only reply tomorrow I think [11:21] or maybe on the 15th since I have a holiday on that day [11:42] shadeslayer, OK;) [12:00] yofel, uploading nepomuk-core [12:09] hmm, lots of blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.0_raring.html [12:22] kde4libs had failed without reason, I restarted it earlier [12:44] have we all seen the youtube easter egg? (probably old, but I just found it) if you havent, go to a video, pause it and type 1980 :D [12:45] yofel, marble uploading [12:47] thanks! [12:48] could you update raring too while at it? Should be as simple as running the default hook and adding the changelog entry [12:48] yofel, default hook = ？ [12:49] backport-hooks/stable/raring [12:49] yofel, either I'm stupid or I just can't see a raring hook [12:49] checkout too old? [12:50] yofel, probably:( [12:50] Unfortunately, I am doing this alongside a full -j4 kernel build, so it will take some time:p [12:53] well, there's no hurry [12:54] jussi: nothing happpens [12:54] jussi: seeks back to the beginning [12:54] shadeslayer: you failed then. 1980 [12:55] yofel, where is the 13.04 PPA? kubuntu-ppa/staging? [12:55] shadeslayer: open http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXz1hE_bWc and try it, perhaps ad supported doesnt work or something [12:56] no, ninjas now, see pad [12:56] which reminds me that I should purge the 13.04 stuff from staging === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.97 saucy/archive raring/beta quantal/staging precise/beta/read_notes_on_pad | 4.11.0 saucy+raring/ninjas | 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.0 saucy+raring/ninjas | 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | [12:57] time to move on from 4.10.97 [12:58] haha [12:58] jussi: I think it only works with flash vids [12:58] shadeslayer: yeah, I dunno, but its a good one [13:02] shadeslayer: seems like the focus cant be on the video element then it works [13:07] yofel, I've done nepomuk-core to raring [13:07] hi again: How to make Trolltech.conf use 32 bit oxygen for 32 bit apps and 64 bit oxygen for 64 bit apps? [13:07] I can delete .config/Trolltech.conf [13:08] when I start a 32 bit app then 32 bit apps use oxygen but not 64 bit and vice versa [13:11] exporting QT_PLUGIN_PATH for the app has no impact [13:12] yofel: shall I use the backport script to upload 4.11 into ninjas or is there more stuff needing done for the LTS bits there? [13:13] the backport script should work fine for precise [13:13] I think I reverted all of the mesa changes I had in there [13:14] for that matter, I installed precise on a SD card over the weekend and ran 4.10.97 on my intel notebook here. Worked fine. [13:14] tester56: I don't think I understand your issue [13:14] tester56: you're using kde plasma or another desktop? [13:14] i have manually install all 32 bit libaries needed for oxygen.so [13:14] So considering the amount of people that actually use it I think we can live with the occasional mesa 8 issue, and recommend the HWE stack in those cases [13:15] Riddell: kde plasma [13:15] need to send martin a mail though as that's not what we agreed on [13:15] Riddell: problem is 32 bit apps like skype can't use oxygen [13:16] yofel: so no HW enablement backports by default? [13:16] no, at least not as upgrade [13:16] Riddell: So I have downloaded kde-style-oxygen and copied oxygen.so to /usr/lib32/kde4/plugins/styles [13:17] Riddell: (32 bit version) [13:17] yofel, can you fix marble in 13.10? [13:17] * smartboyhw does not have time, sorry [13:17] Riddell: then I determined all required libaries using ldd [13:18] now Trolltech.conf only lets me set either 32 bit oxygen or 64 bit oxygen [13:19] I don't see how oxygen here is fixable without multiarch-ing kde-style-oxygen. Which doesn't sound trivial at all [13:20] is multiarch planned for the future? [13:20] tester56, probably... [13:20] not the near future [13:21] the stuff i did should work: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?pid=61765 [13:21] the path should be /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/kde4/plugins/styles btw. for us, we have no lib32 [13:22] whats up [13:22] smartboyhw: no time to fix marble either, sorry [13:22] wasn't marble respun [13:22] same for nepomuk-core [13:23] were they re-uploaded? [13:23] they were [13:23] awesome [13:23] now marble complains about [13:23] dh_install: libmarblewidget16 missing files (usr/lib/libmarblewidget.so.0.15.*), aborting [13:23] weird [13:23] what needs doing raring? [13:23] shadeslayer, marble [13:23] fix saucy first [13:23] kopete failed too [13:23] looking at kopete [13:24] can someone QA ktp from my PPA? [13:24] for raring [13:25] and kscreen [13:25] stuff to QA just keeps piling up :< [13:25] yofel: that path does not work either [13:26] well, the default qt plugin path does not respect multiarch folders so I'm not surprised [13:26] yofel: I can have oxygen, but only either for 32 bit or 64 bit (at least with autogenerated Trolltech.conf) [13:27] I don't know what I should edit [13:27] ufff [13:27] * yofel wonders how qt5 handles that [13:27] smartboyhw: next time plz mention the KDE bug instead of a direct patch to the link plz [13:27] both paths (32 bit one and 64 bit one show up in the config file) [13:27] shadeslayer, what? [13:27] [ Howard Chan ] [13:27] * Introduce patch at http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=80534 [13:27] to fix audio_stream [13:27] in kopete [13:28] shadeslayer, my fault, sorry;p [13:28] another complain: the patch name is missing [13:28] do you remember the the bug number? [13:28] shadeslayer, /me searches [13:28] yofel, no name from upstream, it's an attachment of the bug [13:28] smartboyhw: I mean the file name in debian/patches/ [13:29] yofel, oh, sorry [13:29] otherwise I have almost no way to find out *when* a patch was added [13:29] plus would be nice to have dep 3 formatted patches [13:29] but that's a dream for now [13:30] dep3 is strongly recommended for non-git-format-patch patches really [13:30] *nod* [13:30] Uh, obviously I forgotten that, I do include these normally:( [13:31] fwiw I think smartboyhw's patch causes the failiure [13:31] shadeslayer, Bug 318825 [13:31] bug 318825 in ebox-ntp (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade ebox-ntp to 0.12" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318825 [13:31] Um, KDE:P [13:31] kde 318825 [13:31] KDE bug 318825 in Jabber Plugin "build failed against ortp-0.21.1" [Normal,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318825 [13:31] I think so, I forgotten.................. [13:31] That's what upstream directed me to... [13:31] it most certainly touches the exact same code that fails to compile [13:32] shadeslayer, eh, I asked in #kopete and they pointed me to there:( [13:33] * smartboyhw blames upsteram. [13:34] * yofel blames smartboyhw for not noticing that it failed to build [13:34] * smartboyhw did not see the failure e-mails, sorry [13:36] * shadeslayer points to policy [13:36] I tried to build kopete against ortp-0.21.1 and mediastreamer-2.9.0 which are part of linphone 3.6 beta1. [13:36] from the bug [13:36] we have 3.5.2-10 [13:36] so the patch doesn't apply for us [13:37] yofel, :O but I asked in #kopete and they told me that. I should copy down the logs.. [13:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981197/ [13:39] (Next time I should NOT be fooled:(...) [13:41] smartboyhw: ok, I know what happened [13:41] we indeed had the newer linphone, but Scott removed that from the archive because of debian bug 716855 [13:41] Debian bug 716855 in libucommon-dev "libucomon-dev: Dependency on libgnutls28-dev makes sflphone unbuildable" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/716855 [13:42] that patch should really have an #ifdef with the version [13:43] note that the patch is on bugzilla, it's just meant to be a stop gap measure and is not a 'real' patch :P [13:45] true [13:46] smartboyhw: something for the future, don't drop patches from bugzilla [13:46] shadeslayer, OK [13:47] yofel: did you make use of the wifi dongle ? :P [13:48] removing smartboyhw's patch makes it compile :) [13:48] not yet, I want to use it for the raspi, but I never actually get to move that [13:48] heh, my raspi is currently in it's box [13:48] might set it up once I move to the office [13:49] mine is running... doing nothing [13:49] hehe [13:49] I might use it to self host mykolab [13:50] yofel: https://plus.google.com/photos/112529497463297468627/albums/5911300498495945937/5911300497362610162?pid=5911300497362610162&oid=112529497463297468627 [13:51] what's that red hat doing there? :P [13:52] that's what you noticed? I sort of noticed the gtk equivalent of kscreen :P [13:52] *sort of first [13:53] i was wondering what that was, thanks for clearing that up (looked vaguely familiar ^^) [13:55] well ... it *looks* like the gtk equivalent of kscreen, I'm not sure myself ;) [13:55] kopete fixed in ppa/bzr [13:55] shadeslayer, yofel (et. al): Deeply sorry for wasting your time:( [13:56] uh, didn't we just figure out that it's not your fault? [13:56] well, you could've known what caused it though [13:56] yofel, yeah, that's why I have to apologise:( [13:56] in any case, nvm [13:57] DAMN [13:57] :P [13:58] * smartboyhw is making the linux-rt package while tracking on the aproaching typhoon... [14:01] yofel: I know why marble is failing [14:01] -- Installing: /build/buildd/marble-4.11.0a/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libmarblewidget.so.0.16.0 [14:01] the regex is too old :P [14:02] smartboyhw: What IM are you using? [14:02] Quintasan, XChat [14:03] smartboyhw: I'm asking about input method selector [14:03] Quintasan, IBus？ [14:03] Why? [14:03] smartboyhw: Is that a question or answer? [14:03] Quintasan, IBus is the answer, why is the question:P [14:04] Oh, I wanted someone competent (as in "I actually know what the hell I'm typing") to test fcitx with Chinese [14:04] While typing at random is generally a good test case for "Does it work" it's not good for anything else. [14:05] * smartboyhw likes IBus, sorry:P [14:07] smartboyhw: Can you just give it a go? [14:08] Quintasan, no time sorry [14:08] Okay. [14:17] 4.11 should be all fixed up [14:18] be back later [14:30] smartboyhw: Do you happen to know any Chinese Kubuntu users who could try fcitix for a while? [14:31] Quintasan, NO. [14:31] Ah well. [14:31] Quintasan, Chinese users will rather use UbuntuKylin now... [14:42] you can't say that definitely [14:42] what if the chinese secret agency is using Kubuntu everywhere [14:42] Quintasan doesn't want to piss them off [14:48] lol [14:49] toplel theory :D [14:54] shadeslayer, you know that UbuntuKylin is actually developed by the governernment itself!?Q [14:55] so ... UbuntuKylin spies on it's users, and if it's users are the secret service, the spy agency spies on itself? recursive spying? :D [14:56] shadeslayer, can't it? [14:56] I wouldn't know the first thing about spying [14:58] spying on yourself is called making backups [14:58] yofel, +1 [16:36] yofel: what's your current practice for symbols files on backports? [16:37] I've always just deleted the symbols files on backports if they cause problems [16:52] although it doesn't fail to build I'm getting confused by it being red on build_status page [17:12] Riddell: same here, the precise hook even does that. Should be added to the others too IMO [17:37] cor, blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.0_precise.html [18:55] Riddell: you are awesome :D [19:02] * Riddell sits back in satisfaction of being awesome [19:02] jussi: wait, what am I awesome for just now? [19:34] sweet, setting up a network printer is just as easy as a local one [19:34] trouble is easy doesn't include it pre-selecting the driver [20:37] looks like sources are available http://download.kde.org/stable/4.11.0/src/ [20:38] any objections to uploading 4.11 tonight to saucy? [20:38] nope :) [20:39] raring needs a few more bits compiling then probably mable/nepomuk updated then testing [20:39] also request for raring -.- [20:39] precise needs lots more bits compiling [20:39] soee: i386 is done if you want to test htat [20:39] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.0_raring.html [20:40] im on 64 [20:41] mostly done [20:42] im here 2 more hours if its ready i can test, if not i can do it tomorrow [21:49] damn ninjas is 15.3 GiB (100.00%) of 15.0 GiB [22:11] ;] [22:14] it still has 4.10.5 for quantal, let me wipe that [22:15] though most of the space probably goes to old raring and precise packages