[01:46] <iBelieve> balloons, ping
[01:50] <balloons> iBelieve, pong
[01:52] <iBelieve> balloons, I see you my branch for File Manager, thanks. For some reason it hasn't been merged yet. Maybe the prerequisite needs to get approved too?
[01:53] <balloons> indeed
[01:54] <balloons> iBelieve, I haven't looked at it at all
[01:55] <balloons> but it's a part.. I guess I didn't review it individually, but as one piece
[01:55] <balloons> let's take care of it now
[01:57] <iBelieve> balloons, thanks
[02:01] <iBelieve> balloons, it still needs to get top-approved. The overall status still says "Needs review"
[02:01] <balloons> i re-ran the build bot
[02:01] <balloons> gotta wait on it :-)
[02:02] <iBelieve> balloons, why? you mean for it to mark it as top-approved?
[02:03] <balloons> iBelieve, I just wanted to check the branch again as it's been awhile
[02:04] <iBelieve> balloons, oh, I see.
[02:04] <balloons> anyways, should be done in a sec, and tomorrow, we should have smoke testing success :-)
[02:04] <balloons> and of course the way awesome sidebar
[02:04] <balloons> makes the tablet experience so much nicer
[02:05] <iBelieve> balloons, if the bot runs the autopilot tests, they're going to fail, since I fixed them in my newer branch
[02:05] <iBelieve> balloons, yeah, looking forward to the desktop/tablet features and Suru theme :)
[02:06] <balloons> all done
[02:07] <iBelieve> balloons, cool thanks. though why'd they pass? Don't they run autopilot tests?
[02:07] <balloons> ty for noticing iBelieve :-)
[02:07] <balloons> no ap runs on this one
[02:07] <iBelieve> balloons, oh, okay.
[04:52] <mihir_> Good Morning :)
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:07] <dpm> morning all
[07:07] <dpm> good morning dholbach
[07:07] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:07] <dpm> hey ;)
[07:09] <mihir_> dpm: Good Morning & Gm to all :)
[07:09] <dpm> hi mihir_
[07:10] <mihir_> Hi dpm :)
[07:22] <mihir_> boiko: you there ?? I am done with MR :) https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calculator-app/1210873/+merge/179684
[07:22] <mihir_> dpm: if you have time to review the MR :)
[08:42] <nik90|Office> dpm: good morning :)
[08:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Lefthanders' Day! :-D
[09:05] <WebbyIT> Hi dpm :)
[09:06] <mihir_> WebbyIT: hi  good Morning :)
[09:06] <WebbyIT> hi mihir_ :)
[09:21] <WebbyIT> Hi mhall119 :) Can you help me?
[09:24] <WebbyIT> mhall119, nope, solved
[09:28] <dpm> hi WebbyIT :)
[09:30] <WebbyIT> dpm: I'm looking at bug 1179422 Riccardo did a good work, there is only to change AC in C (read the comment) :D
[09:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1179422 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app] Can't add to existing equation once equals is entered" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179422
[10:39] <xqwzts> Hi all, I've put a post up as an intro/brainstorming for my app: http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntuappshowdown/comments/1k9p5j/new_app_my_movies/
[10:39] <xqwzts> feedback appreciated
[10:58] <WebbyIT> dpm ping
[11:02] <dpm_> hi WebbyIT
[11:04] <WebbyIT> dpm: in calc app, if you do 1+2*3 the result is 7. This is ok for math, but I think that in a calc we have to follow the order
[11:04] <WebbyIT> dpm also because we have no brackets
[11:04] <WebbyIT> dpm IMO 1+2*3  has to be 9
[11:05] <mihir_> WebbyIT: Nope I think all calc would return 7
[11:05] <dpm> WebbyIT, I think it's best to use the mathematical precedence rules as it's doing now
[11:05] <mihir_> and WebbyIT for brackets i guess we do have it in scientific calc :)
[11:05] <dpm> otherwise it would be a bit confusing if it works different than all other calculators
[11:06] <WebbyIT> mihir_, dpm, I know, but I think is a bit confusing, because every new push is on a new line
[11:07] <mihir_> WebbyIT: I guess that is upto our design as we are showing all the conversations if you try Android , they have same line caclulation
[11:07] <WebbyIT> mihir_, right
[11:07] <mihir_> So, our design is like each operands is newline :|
[11:08] <WebbyIT> mihir_, dpm, but also if you do 1+2, then press =, then do * 3 the result is 7
[11:08] <dpm> WebbyIT, I can see what you mean, but I still think it'd be better to follow the operator precedence rules
[11:08] <WebbyIT> dpm, gotcha
[11:08] <WebbyIT> dpm, but with the equal? 1+2=*3 has to be 7 or 9?
[11:08] <mihir_> WebbyIT: I guess that is already reported bug
[11:09] <mihir_> we are unable to use result in new calculations..:|
[11:09] <dpm> WebbyIT, yes 1+2=*3 should be 9, but we don't have that functionality yet
[11:09] <dpm> WebbyIT, do you think you could talk to the other Riccardo to see what the status of that bug is and to see if he's still working on it?
[11:09] <mihir_> WebbyIT: That's same bug as you mentioned earlier Riccardo is working on that
[11:10] <mihir_> dpm:  I am unable to find him on IRC
[11:10] <mihir_> dpm: I alos commented on that bug for the status
[11:10] <WebbyIT> dpm: I'm working on it
[11:10] <dpm> I have the feeling he might have got busy with other things and he's no longer working on it
[11:10] <WebbyIT> dpm, Riccardo did a great work, there are only some change to do
[11:10] <dpm> yeah, it might be worth contacting him on e-mail
[11:11] <mihir_> WebbyIT: You taking over hat bug ??
[11:11] <mihir_> that*
[11:13] <WebbyIT> mihir_, I'm looking, it's not a difficult bug... dpm, I'm going to write to Riccardo, if he not answer me in 24h I'll assing to me the bug, is it ok?
[11:17] <mihir_> WebbyIT: Yeah i know that but I looked into it but thought somebody must be working on it so left the comment over there :)
[11:17] <WebbyIT> mihir_, Yes, I'm writing a mail to Riccardo to ask him if he is working on it
[11:18] <mihir_> WebbyIT:  Okay :)
[11:29] <dpm> thanks WebbyIT!
[12:02] <espectalll123> Hello chat world!
[12:02] <espectalll123> So nice to have IRC inside the SDK :)
[12:11] <randomcpp> anyone else has problem closing dialogs?
[12:12] <randomcpp> if I call PopupUtils.close(dialogID) I get this error: file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Popups/popupUtils.js:69: TypeError: Object QQmlComponent(0x2776770) has no method 'hide'
[12:24] <nik90|Office> xqwzts: reading your post now. Looks cool!
[12:25] <xqwzts> cheers nik90|Office
[12:26] <xqwzts> I've already got some basic code up from futzing with QTCreator, will try to do a nice chunk after work and get a post up on that too.
[12:26] <nik90|Office> xqwzts: can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AppShowdownList when you do so with your public branch code
[12:27] <randomcpp> if I call PopupUtils.close(dialogID) I get this error: file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Popups/popupUtils.js:69: TypeError: Object QQmlComponent(0x2776770) has no method 'hide' --- Has anyone else this problem?
[12:27] <xqwzts> Will do as soon as I set up the repo.
[12:29] <xqwzts> randomcpp: PopupUtils.close() is working fine for me
[12:29] <xqwzts> could the problem be with the components inside the popover?
[12:34] <randomcpp> I'm using the sample in the docs
[12:36] <xqwzts> can you pastebin it?
[12:38] <randomcpp> a sec
[12:40] <nerochiaro> gusch|lunch: can you successfully build gallery-app by using debuild ?
[12:40] <nerochiaro> gusch|lunch: on the desktop
[12:51] <mefrio> hey guys do you know where I can find the source code for the Gallery app shown in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGX6F5bionU#at=14 ?
[12:52] <popey> mefrio: http://code.launchpad.net/gallery-app ☻
[12:52] <mefrio> popey, thank you :)
[12:52] <popey> np
[12:53] <gusch> nerochiaro: haven't checked for a while
[13:02] <randomcpp> but does Dialog have a fixed width?
[13:02] <randomcpp> or the widgets can stretch how much I want?
[13:08] <nik90|Office> randomcpp: the dialog (with a black background) covers the entire app. The widgets inside a dialog may be defined to have a certain width
[13:08] <gusch> nerochiaro: strange - dh_install --fail-missing is giving me an error
[13:11] <randomcpp> how? because I put a WebView (don't kill me for this) but even settings the same width of the app, it still does have the same width
[13:18] <nik90|Office> randomcpp: I suppose you are referring to http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/building-blocks/dialog
[13:19] <nik90|Office> you cannot define the width of a dialog
[13:19] <nik90|Office> it should automatically take the widht and height of the app
[13:19] <nerochiaro> gusch: i'm having problems with shlib deps instead
[13:19] <nerochiaro> gusch: are you running debuild on saucy ?
[13:20] <gusch> yes - just calling it in the gallery directory (not your MR)
[13:22] <randomcpp> nik90|Office, yeah, is a bad use case use the Dialog to show the user the login page?
[13:24] <gusch> nerochiaro: problem for me is, that it installs to /usr/local/bin intead of installing it in /usr/bin ...
[13:45] <nerochiaro> gusch: oh, i've had happening too at some point, don't recall what i had to do to fix it
[13:45] <nerochiaro> hmm
[13:49] <gusch> nerochiaro: yes - I remember having the problem before, but can't remember the solution as well ...
[13:53] <Cantide> quick question: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/Screenshot%20from%202013-08-13%2015%3A49%3A26.png how do i stop it bleeding into the title?
[13:53] <nerochiaro> gusch: do i need to do something before i can see stuff in the share menu in gallery ?
[14:04] <randomcpp> Cantide, try (I guess) to remove the anchors { } from Column
[14:04] <Cantide> okay :)
[14:04] <randomcpp> Columns inside a Page should stretch automatically IIRC
[14:04] <Cantide> hmm, then it didn't flick at all
[14:05] <Cantide> it's as if i just need to set some padding somewhere...
[14:07] <randomcpp> nik90|Office, I think my app won't be able to upload photos to instagram..there's not api for that
[14:11] <nerochiaro> gusch: do i need to do something before i can see stuff in the share menu in gallery (setup an account or something) ?
[14:11] <gusch> nerochiaro: you need at least one account - but I have no idea how to do that
[14:11] <nerochiaro> kenvandine: do you know ? ^
[14:14] <kenvandine> nerochiaro, gusch: yes, you need to have an account setup
[14:15] <nerochiaro> kenvandine: how do we do that ?
[14:15] <kenvandine> in system settings
[14:15] <kenvandine> i plan to update that to prompt you to add an account
[14:15] <kenvandine> the settings plugin for accounts just got a new API for clients
[14:15] <kenvandine> to ease that
[14:15] <nerochiaro> kenvandine: how do i access the syste settings ? never did that
[14:16] <kenvandine> it's in the app lens
[14:18] <gusch> kenvandine: when going to the settings, I only can click on "cancel" for twitter and facbook (image from yesterday)
[14:19] <kenvandine> gusch, give it a few seconds
[14:20] <kenvandine> it should be opening a webview to let you enter your credentials
[14:20] <kenvandine> gusch, that will be more obvious after we move to mir, it'll embed the webview
[14:21] <gusch> kenvandine: true - pretty slow ...
[14:21] <kenvandine> yeah... i know :/
[14:21] <Cantide> how is pinch-to-zoom performed on the desktop for testing?
[14:34] <randomcpp> Cantide, try connecting two mice :p
[14:35] <Cantide> lol
[14:36] <nik90|Office> randomcpp: that's too bad. But to your other question, a dialog is used only for confirmation. Login should be inside a pagestack.
[14:36] <nik90|Office> Cantide: yes try connecting two mice
[14:36] <nik90|Office> :)
[14:36] <Cantide> oh, seriously? haha
[14:37] <nik90|Office> Cantide: I think the other way is to have a multitouch touchpad on your laptop
[14:37] <Cantide> i'm on a desktop .. okay, i'll try the two mice idea :)
[14:38] <nerochiaro> zsombi: is there any SDK element I should use as a background for a component ? something that would give me the greyish background that things using MainWindow get
[14:39] <zsombi> nerochiaro: nope, there's none. Check how the MainWindow gets it. And it would also be the time to report such a need...
[14:39] <nerochiaro> zsombi: want me to file a bug or something ?
[14:40] <zsombi> nerochiaro: more like a wish item, but yes please :)
[14:40] <nerochiaro> zsombi: well yeah, but reported as a bug in launchpad
[14:40] <nerochiaro> right ?
[14:40] <zsombi> right
[14:41] <randomcpp> nik90|Office, I'm really sad about that api limitation
[14:41] <randomcpp> I don't know if it is worth to keep developing this app..:/
[14:44] <nerochiaro> zsombi: MainView seems to get the color from Theme.palette.normal.background
[14:44] <randomcpp> nerochiaro, do you want to change the default background color?
[14:44] <zsombi> nerochiaro: yes, but there's no dedicated component or build element which would go for the background you needed
[14:45] <nerochiaro> zsombi: just a rectangle with color: Theme.palette.normal.background will do, no ?
[14:45] <nerochiaro> zsombi: i don't see why anything more complicated is needed
[14:45] <zsombi> nerochiaro: so there's then an SDK elkement, yes :)
[14:45] <nerochiaro> randomcpp: no, just need to paint something with that color
[14:45] <zsombi> nerochiaro: in case you nee dgradients, then a bit more, but essentially that's what you need
[14:46] <randomcpp> if the main view has an id
[14:46] <nerochiaro> zsombi: do you think we need an sdk element that's basically Rectangle { color: Theme.palette.normal.background } ? i don't think so. for gradients maybe, but at the moment I'll just use a rectangle
[14:46] <mhall119> zsombi: don't we have UbuntuColors or something for that?
[14:47] <randomcpp> try to access it with mainViewID.backgroundColor
[14:47] <zsombi> nerochiaro: then go for it, no need for a dedicated one
[14:47] <nerochiaro> zsombi: do i need to import anything to be able to use Theme.palette.normal.background ?
[14:47] <zsombi> mhall119 for simple colors we do have, yes
[14:47] <mhall119> zsombi: is the default MainView grey one of those simple colors?
[14:47] <Cantide> oh, Flickable has a property "clip" which does what i wanted '-'
[14:48] <randomcpp> Rectagle can be transparent backgound: "transparent"
[14:48] <randomcpp> Cantide, :D
[14:49] <iBelieve> How can I use QtMobility's organizer API? I'm getting `module "QtMobility.organizer" is not installed`, but i've installed qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin
[14:49] <Cantide> on the topic of theme, how do i set my app to use the ubuntu theme? (with the nice purple / orange background etc. )
[14:49] <zsombi> nerochiaro: Theme.palette would provide you the current theme's palette as I see...
[14:50] <zsombi> mhall119: depends on teh theme
[14:50] <iBelieve> Cantide, those colors aren't the ubuntu theme, they're just one specific theme. The Ubuntu theme (Suru) can be any set of gradient colors you want
[14:50] <iBelieve> Cantide, but to set it, set the backgroundColor, headerColor, and footerColor properties of MainView
[14:51] <zsombi> mhall: Ambiance's (default) one is grey
[14:51] <zsombi> mhall119: ^
[14:52] <Cantide> iBelieve, what are the defaults for the Suru theme?
[14:52] <iBelieve> Cantide, they're aren't any. The default is just the light gray. But if you mean the one that is used by clock and calendar, and copied by almost every 3rd party app for some reason, I can look them up for you
[14:53] <Cantide> iBelieve, i'm sorry, i have too many questions :) If the theme is set, with the user's theme be able to overwrite it? (keeping a unified look across the phone)
[14:53] <Cantide> will the user's *
[14:54] <iBelieve> Cantide, you can never have too many questions, that's how we learn :) I don't think the user will be able to override it, since it gets hard-coded into the file, but I don't know
[14:55] <Cantide> oh... i'd like to leave mine unthemed, but then i'd assume that it would get the theme from the user's settings..
[14:55] <Cantide> but now i think i should copy ubuntu's theme T-T
[14:58] <iBelieve> Cantide, here are the Suru themes from Clock, Calculator, and File Manager: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981509/
[14:58] <Cantide> thanks :)
[14:59] <iBelieve> Cantide, I'd recommend coming up with your own if you can, it will make your app stand out
[14:59] <Cantide> is the background an image?
[14:59] <iBelieve> Cantide, what do you mean?
[14:59] <iBelieve> Cantide, it's just a gradient from headerColor to backgroundColor to footerColor
[14:59] <Cantide> oh, i just tried it and i see now - it creates a gradient
[14:59] <Cantide> yeah
[14:59] <Cantide> this is cool :) thanks!
[14:59] <iBelieve> Cantide, you could easily add a background image if you wanted to though
[15:00] <Cantide> yeah
[15:00] <Cantide> i like these gradients
[15:01] <Cantide> and i still live in the 80s where filesize and resources matter to me >_>
[15:02] <iBelieve> How can I use QtMobility's organizer API? I'm getting `module "QtMobility.organizer" is not installed`, but i've installed qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin
[15:12] <randomcpp> iBelieve, strange there's not QtMobility in Qt5.0 in the docs :/
[15:13] <iBelieve> randomcpp, what do you mean?  I was given a link to http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtmobility-1.2/organizer.html, and I think that QtOrganizer is going to be used in the calendar app
[15:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i think the share component itself is ready for a review, the MR is here https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-extras/share-component/+merge/179688 who do you think is best qualified to take a look at it ?
[15:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I can have a look at it, and it would be good if gusch or renato did too, seeing that it will be used in gallery and media player apps
[15:17] <gusch> nerochiaro:
[15:17] <zsombi> nik90: nik90|Office: ping
[15:17] <gusch> nerochiaro oSoMoN ok - I'll look at it too
[15:20] <Cantide> randomcpp, nik90|Office - two mice control just one cursor -.-
[15:20] <gusch> nerochiaro: it's copied, but should the copyright be updated?
[15:21] <iBelieve> randomcpp, in case you're curious, I figured it out. Those docs are old, it should be import QtOrganizer 5.0
[15:21] <nerochiaro> gusch: good point, let me have a look at it
[15:21] <nerochiaro> gusch: copyright fixed
[15:23] <randomcpp> Cantide, did you really try? lol
[15:23] <Cantide> i thought you were serious! -_-
[15:23] <Cantide> haha :)
[15:23] <randomcpp> ahahahaah
[15:24] <Cantide> so there's no way to test on the desktop? does an image element zoom by default?
[15:24] <randomcpp> try control+mouse scroll
[15:25] <iBelieve> Cantide, could you add a keyboard input for testing?
[15:26] <randomcpp> iBelieve, http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Add-ons-Modules
[15:27] <iBelieve> randomcpp, thanks. it looks like everything from QtMobility got split into their own modules
[15:27] <Cantide> iBelieve, I'm not sure what you mean. I thought maybe there would be a modifier key - such as holding control while dragging with the mouse
[15:28] <randomcpp> iBelieve, https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtpim/blobs/master/examples/organizer/qmlorganizerlistview/qmlorganizerlistview.qml
[15:28] <gusch> nerochiaro: so this is for photos only?
[15:28] <randomcpp> here you go I think
[15:30] <iBelieve> Cantide, what I mean is can you add a key handler to zoom when Ctrl & + are pressed? Would that be good enough for testing?
[15:31] <Cantide> That would, but i've no idea how to do it :<
[15:31] <Cantide> also, how would i know that zoom will work on the phone?
[15:31] <Cantide> i guess i could just ask someone to test the app '-';;
[15:32] <iBelieve> Cantide, here is an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981600/
[15:32] <Cantide> thanks
[15:32] <iBelieve> Cantide, yeah, you could use that to test zooming in general, then have somebody with a phone test your touch zoom implementation
[15:32] <Cantide> is touch zoom enabled by default on images?
[15:33] <iBelieve> randomcpp, thanks for the info
[15:33] <iBelieve> Cantide, no idea - I don't have a device either
[15:34] <Cantide> hmm, that code doesn't seem to do anything when i placed it in the image element :<
[15:34] <Cantide> okay, i will forget zoom for now - it's not too important anyway
[15:34] <nerochiaro> gusch: yeah, that's exactly the same stuff as share-app
[15:35] <nerochiaro> gusch: oSoMoN: need to briefly go offline, i'll be back later to have a look at your comments
[16:02]  * Cantide shares his homemade pizza
[16:14] <nerochiaro> gusch: the improvements you pointed out I think should be filed in a separate bug and taken care of separately. they are good suggestions but i am simply porting the existing code to a component at the moment
[16:15] <gusch> nerochiaro: ok - what about my comment before?
[16:16] <nerochiaro> gusch: that seems valid, need to have a look
[16:18] <gusch> nerochiaro: and copyright of C++ is ok to be 2012?
[16:22] <nerochiaro> gusch: probably not, i'll change that too
[16:28] <nerochiaro> gusch: i also forgot to remove imagefilehack.* from the plugin, doing that too
[16:28] <WebbyIT> dpm: Riccardo answered me that until Saturday he fixs the bug
[16:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I added some comments too, going offline now, are you working tomorrow?
[16:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i'm not
[16:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i'll address them today
[16:31] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok, thanks
[16:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and i'll submit the MR for gallery too
[16:38] <dpm> WebbyIT, perfect!
[16:39] <WebbyIT> dpm, have a nice evening, see you tomorrow :D
[16:45] <mihir> dpm:  Why did jenkins failedcould you help me to figure out ?
[16:45] <mihir> https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calculator-app/1210873
[16:55] <gusch> EOD
[17:00] <dpm> hi mihir, I'm not sure why Jenkins failed, sorry :/ - could you perhaps explain the exact issue to balloons? He should be able to help you out there.
[17:01]  * balloons looks
[17:02] <mihir> dpm:  It was success , I just added autopilot test
[17:05] <mihir> balloons: could you help me ?
[17:06] <nerochiaro> renato: do you remember how to generate the initial .pot file for a i18n of an app
[17:06] <nerochiaro> ?
[17:06] <balloons> mihir, your autopilot testcase doesn't pass as-is.. did you run it before pushing it?
[17:07] <balloons> http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-calculator-app-saucy-amd64-ci/69/console
[17:07] <renato> nerochiaro, no but the media-player app has the command into the CMakeList.txt
[17:07] <renato> let me check
[17:07] <balloons> mihir, I redid the test run, you can see the failures now
[17:08] <renato> nerochiaro, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5981907/
[17:08] <nerochiaro> renato: but that doesn't generate the initial .pot file, no ?
[17:09] <renato> it does
[17:09] <nerochiaro> renato: i don't understand. how do you run that ? with cmake ?
[17:10] <renato> in the mp project if you type: "make mediaplayer-app.pot"
[17:10] <renato> it will create the pot file
[17:11] <renato> but if you want generate the pot manually you can type the command:
[17:11] <renato> ${XGETTEXT_EXECUTABLE} --c++ --qt --add-comments=TRANSLATORS --keyword=tr --keyword=tr:1,2 -D ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR} -s -p ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR} -o mediaplayer-app.pot ${I18N_SRCS}
[17:11] <renato> replacing the variables with the correct values
[17:11] <iBelieve> nik90, ping
[17:11] <renato> nerochiaro, this is the full cmake file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5981909/
[17:14] <mihir> balloons: this is what I have added in autopilot
[17:14] <mihir> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5981924/
[17:21] <nerochiaro> renato: ok, but how do you run cmake in a way that it creates or updates the .pot file ?
[17:22] <renato> in the media player you run: make mediaplayer-app.pot
[17:23] <renato> nerochiaro, because of the custom target
[17:23] <renato> add_custom_command(TARGET ${POT_FILE} ...)
[17:24] <nerochiaro> renato: ah, that worked. thanks !
[17:25] <balloons> mihir, in your branch, your python syntax looks off
[17:25] <mihir> balloons: Gotcha modified and pushed again
[17:25] <balloons> mihir, try running your testcase locally and get it working the way you want.
[17:25] <balloons> kk
[17:25] <mihir> waiting for jenkins too run
[17:26] <balloons> k, it's running again
[17:34] <mihir> balloons: okay thank you :)
[17:38] <mihir> balloons: how can I see console log ?
[18:01] <randomcpp> does anyone know if jquery works with qtjs?
[18:48]  * nik90 is happy to see the list of app growing at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AppShowdownList
[18:49] <Cantide> yeah, i added my new idea, and it hasn't been shot down yet nor has it been revealed that anyone else is doing the same thing :)
[18:49] <randomcpp> nik90, I think that forcing the upload is useless http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/30/4570610/instagram-deleting-photos-from-instance-windows-phone-app
[18:49] <randomcpp> I think I'll need to find another app to create
[18:51] <nik90> randomcpp: yes I wouldnt recommend forcing the upload. It is similar to the whatsapp situation.
[18:51] <nik90> I guess you need to find another app
[18:51] <randomcpp> unless I upload photos to other services
[18:52] <nik90> randomcpp: the other attractive services are google+, flickr although not sure if google+ provides a upload api
[18:52] <nik90> Cantide: pardon me, what was your idea. I am overwhelmed with seeing too many apps and hence cant remember every one :D
[18:53] <Cantide> i had many :) some failed before they took off; the latest one, which seems to be going fine so far, is "Subway Savvy"
[18:53] <Cantide> a map viewing program
[18:53] <Cantide> I'm currently in Inkscape making my first SVG
[18:56] <nik90> Cantide: ah yes, I added that app idea as well to the list :). Where do you plan to get data for subway stations around the world or is this localised to some country?
[18:56] <Cantide> nik90, for now I'm going to do Busan, South Korea as my test data
[18:57] <Cantide> as for getting the subway info - much can be found searching online
[18:57] <Cantide> there are many jpegs and pngs floating around
[18:57] <nik90> Cantide: nice
[18:57] <Cantide> i'll have to painstakingly create svgs though
[18:57] <balloons> mihir, you get everything merged?
[18:57] <Cantide> as for the language info... i haven't quite figured that out. I'm comfortable inputting the Korean, but for other languages I'll need help
[18:57] <mihir> balloons:  yeah it ran successfully :)
[18:58] <nik90> Cantide: but do they also provide subways leaving at different times? Or is this the subway station map?
[18:58] <Cantide> perhaps I can create a system with user-supplied data eventually
[18:58] <Cantide> just a subway station map, regardless of train times
[18:59] <Cantide> although the trains in Korea run pretty much every few minutes during the day - i'd have to find out about other countries
[18:59] <Cantide> but that's beyond the scope of my app
[19:02] <Cantide> nik90, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/Screenshot%20from%202013-08-13%2021%3A01%3A20.png '-';;; some early work
[19:05] <nik90> Cantide: ah ok
[19:05] <nik90> Cantide: I understand better now
[19:05]  * nik90|Dinner is going for dinner
[19:06] <Cantide> :)
[19:53] <xqwzts> 21:51:06      nik90 | randomcpp: yes I wouldnt recommend forcing the upload. It is similar to the whatsapp situation.
[19:53] <xqwzts> nik90|Dinner: what is the whatsapp situation?
[19:54] <xqwzts> I was tempted to see how difficult it would be to use yowsup as a backend
[19:54] <xqwzts> and I think it should be straightforward?
[19:54] <xqwzts> [works fine on meego, and i believe someone got a cli frontend running too]
[19:55] <randomcpp> yowsup?
[19:58] <nik90|Dinner> xqwzts: there is no official whatsapp api. That said people have reverse engineered it but I wouldnt make an app of it since they can shut it down easily.
[19:59] <Cantide> yeah, i wanted to do one for KakaoTalk - so i emailed them asking if they had an API, and their response was way off saying something about Ubuntu not being part of their philosophy or some such nonsense
[20:15] <xqwzts> nik90|Dinner, randomcpp: yowsup is a whatsapp backend that's been running for the past year or so
[20:15] <xqwzts> it has its flaws but its better than nothing
[20:16] <xqwzts> Originally written for the N9 as Wazapp
[20:16] <Cantide> Kakao is much better than whatsapp though... pity only my Korean friends use it :< and it doesn't seem to have an API, and they're not very helpful in responding to emails.
[20:16] <xqwzts> then the creator split the backend into yowsup to make it easier to port
[20:16] <xqwzts> its written in python iirc
[20:17] <xqwzts> so should run just fine on Ubuntu Touch
[20:20] <xqwzts> hmm, does ubuntu touch use telepathy as its messaging backend?
[20:23] <randomcpp> does anyone have a link to the AppShowdownList?
[20:26] <randomcpp> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AppShowdownList
[20:26] <Cantide> thanks :)
[20:28] <randomcpp> Cantide, np :)
[20:39] <om26er> boiko_, ping
[20:39] <boiko_> om26er: pong
[20:39] <om26er> boiko_, I try to create a new sms and the send button does not lighten up ?
[20:40] <boiko_> om26er: is that on a device with a simcard?
[20:40] <om26er> boiko_, yes, and calling is pretty much working atleast I think it is
[20:40] <boiko_> om26er: it only enables the send button if there is a destinatary and a non-empty message
[20:41] <om26er> boiko_, yes, I am also typing a message text as well
[20:41] <boiko_> om26er: that's weird, it should enable the button then
[20:42] <om26er> just rebooted the phone and still the same...while I can make calls
[20:42] <boiko_> om26er: so, how did you get to the conversation screen? did you click on a previous conversation or were you trying to compose a new message?
[20:43] <om26er> boiko_, I am composing a new message
[20:43] <om26er> boiko_, I just tried and seems I can send the sms if there is an old conversation happened with a contact
[20:43] <boiko_> om26er: let me try here
[20:44] <boiko_> om26er: confirmed, I will fix this
[20:44] <om26er> boiko_, thanks
[20:45] <boiko_> om26er: one thing is: we could have catch this regression earlier if we had an autopilot test for this, but we didn't have because in the autopilot env the modem is not connected/registered
[20:45] <boiko_> om26er: so maybe this is a testcase to be added to connected tests?
[20:45] <om26er> boiko_, yeah, it was detected by the connected-tests ;)
[20:46] <boiko_> om26er: great! :)
[20:48] <randomcpp> nik90|Dinner, I found what to do instead of instatouch
[20:49] <nik90|Dinner> randomcpp: what's your new idea?
[20:50] <randomcpp> an app for recipes (still need a name), I also found a service for searching recipes, so it will have a search feature
[20:51] <nik90> randomcpp: nice!
[20:51] <randomcpp> is it? :)
[20:52] <nik90> randomcpp: It depends on what integrations and features you can add to it.
[20:52] <nik90> randomcpp: start brainstorming some use case scenarios (stories) and then go with it
[20:52] <nik90> perhaps sending a recipe to a friend email , twitter (using friends service)
[20:53] <randomcpp> sharing is in my todo list
[20:53] <randomcpp> I'll write a reddit post anytime soon
[20:53] <Cantide> randomcpp, cool :) I have a need for something like that currently :)
[20:54] <randomcpp> Cantide, thanks, I love cooking and that's what I need to
[20:54] <randomcpp> too*
[20:54] <randomcpp> I think it's more useful than a instahipster app :)
[20:55] <Cantide> randomcpp, will it link to a centralised database, so that all users can see all the recipes?
[20:55] <Cantide> where will that database be stored? >.<
[20:55] <randomcpp> the recipes you write will be stored on u1
[20:56] <Cantide> so your own recipes then?
[20:56] <nik90> randomcpp: is there any online place where we can find more recipes perhaps to extend the collection?
[20:56] <randomcpp> I think I'll use this http://food2fork.com
[20:57] <randomcpp> (it's the most open (in terms of n° of api call) and free API I found)
[20:58] <randomcpp> still need to think the process, but after you find a recipe you can save it on your device and keep it for offline use also
[20:58] <randomcpp> and be able to edit if you want
[20:58] <nik90> randomcpp: okay. Slowly (may be after the showdown) you can continue to add more online sources if you find them. Like plugins which users can enable/disable
[20:59] <randomcpp> or buy a small VPS and create my own search engine to collect recipes from all over the world :D
[21:00] <nik90> xqwzts: btw I was the one who commented on your blog.
[21:01] <nik90> randomcpp: one step at a time :)
[21:01] <randomcpp> nik90, Cantide do you have any suggestion for a name?
[21:01] <xqwzts> ah thanks for that nik90
[21:02] <xqwzts> I did read the navigation page you linked to, but had already written the basic tabs so just dumped a pagestack above them for the menu
[21:02] <xqwzts> changing the order into the one you suggested should be trivial, will get to it on the next revision.
[21:03] <Cantide> randomcpp, i'd need some food for thought :p
[21:03] <Cantide> j/k, I'm not sure, i meant i'd have to think about it :)
[21:03] <xqwzts> but i think other phones tend to have that "tabs with back buttonC" combo
[21:03] <xqwzts> e.g windows phone
[21:04] <nik90> xqwzts: true, but we should try to stick to the ubuntu phone design philosophy for bug free experience when using sdk compoenents
[21:04] <xqwzts> sure, and for a unified look+feel
[21:04] <nik90> xqwzts: Whenever I do something not supported by the sdk, it leads to a usage bug. So I stick to what is recommended by them
[21:05] <xqwzts> thanks for pointing it out btw
[21:05] <xqwzts> ah im pretty sure it's supported by the sdk, working fine so far, seems to be against the usability concept
[21:05] <nik90> xqwzts: np :)
[21:05] <nik90> xqwzts: looking forward to trying it out
[21:06] <xqwzts> in any case, will switch it around
[21:06] <xqwzts> cheers
[21:06] <xqwzts> just applied for the rottentomatoes api access, so should be playing with either that or u1db next
[21:09] <nik90> xqwzts: cool
[21:09] <randomcpp> Cantide, what about 'ricettarium'?
[21:09] <randomcpp> fake latin names are the best >.<
[21:10] <Cantide> haha
[21:10] <Cantide> A catchy English name would probably be best
[21:10] <Cantide> "Recipe Rebel"
[21:10] <Cantide> idk :)
[21:10] <Cantide> "Raring Recipes" xD
[21:11] <randomcpp> Saucy Recipes
[21:11] <randomcpp> lol
[21:11] <Cantide> hahaha
[21:11] <Cantide> nice :)
[21:12] <Cantide> or just call it something like "Food for thought"
[21:12] <Cantide> i like puns :)
[21:14] <boiko_> om26er_: it got broken when we migrated to use the approach of replacing the header with a custom one, I am trying to get that fixed
[21:20] <mefrio> hey guys I just noticed there is a Mac app with the same name of the app I am developing for the showdown contest. Are there any problems with it?
[21:21] <nik90> mefrio: app name :) ? Also if it is just the name, it can be changed later on as well I suppose. Best to avoid same names for various reasons.
[21:21] <nik90> like searching google for your app but instead finding the mac app
[21:23] <mefrio> nik90, the problem is that Memories for Mac is like what I am developing for Ubuntu Touch :S anyway I would not change it as I just published something with the name Memories...
[21:23] <randomcpp> Cantide, SaucyBacon !??!
[21:23] <Cantide> :D
[21:24] <randomcpp> nik90, is it ok as an app name 'SaucyBacon' ? or jono will sue me?
[21:24] <nik90> randomcpp: hehe. jono will be amused :)
[21:25] <jono> randomcpp, love it!
[21:25] <jono> :-)
[21:25] <randomcpp> great, I'll go for it :D I'm already writing the app idea post on reddit
[21:29] <b0bben> hey all
[21:29] <b0bben> why isn't there a template for mixing c++/qml in the SDK?
[21:34] <b0bben> i rly need to be able to do setContextProperty on my custom c++ modules, can't seem to find a way to do it with the new only-qml templates :/
[21:49] <randomcpp> ok I posted my idea on reddit :)
[21:53] <Cantide> randomcpp, I don't see it :< link?
[21:53] <randomcpp> I don't see it too
[21:53] <randomcpp> http://redd.it/1kb1rb
[21:53] <randomcpp> I don't know why
[21:56] <Cantide> i used the "submit a new text post" on the right-hand side
[21:56] <Cantide> and it worked for me >.<
[21:56] <randomcpp> Yeah that's what I did
[21:57] <Cantide> hmm, then i have no idea :( I'm actually new to reddit - i joined to take part in this app showdown
[21:57] <Cantide> so i don't know much about it :<
[21:57] <xqwzts> it might have been flagged by the spam filter? try messaging the subreddit mods?
[21:57] <randomcpp> but it works with the link I gave you?
[21:58] <Cantide> randomcpp, but that's a direct link to it i guess... not on the ubuntu app showdown subreddit thingy
[22:01] <xqwzts> yes the link works fine
[22:07] <randomcpp> xqwzts, Cantide I don't know, it's the first I post something on reddit
[22:09] <xqwzts> randomcpp: I suspect if you just created a reddit account and posted it immediatly it could just be the spam filter acting up.
[22:09] <randomcpp> nope, I had the account for a long time
[22:09] <xqwzts> you can drop the moderators a line http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Fubuntuappshowdown
[22:10] <randomcpp> I will
[22:12] <mefrio> would a delte badge like the one showed here fit with the HIGs? http://imagebin.org/267472
[22:13] <Cantide> randomcpp, or maybe try deleting the post and creating another one (copying the contents out first, of course)
[22:13] <xqwzts> mefrio: I was planning on having that same functionality [delete badge on an item in a grid]... so I would hope so :)
[22:14] <mefrio> xqwzts, ok :)  here it is the badge itself http://imagebin.org/267471
[22:15] <nik90> mefrio: One thought, you definitely need a new background gradient. Pretty much all apps now use the same purple to pink gradient. Need some other refresing color :)
[22:16] <mefrio> nik90, I think I would try to make something with brow...
[22:16] <xqwzts> nik90: I thought that was the Ubuntu Touch theme?
[22:17] <nik90> xqwzts: It was the color given for the clock app. But other core apps are using different colours.
[22:17] <nik90> xqwzts: You get to define it yourself with just 3 lines of code
[22:17] <xqwzts> ah ok, I thought they were shooting for a unified color scheme, much nicer that we can change
[22:22] <randomcpp> nik90, do posts on /r/ubuntuappshowdown need to be approved?
[22:22] <nik90> randomcpp: nope
[22:22] <randomcpp> :/
[22:23] <randomcpp> i've posted my idea btw http://redd.it/1kb4sk
[22:23] <nik90> randomcpp: yeah its wierd your post is not showing up
[22:23] <nik90> randomcpp: please check with dpm or mhall119 when you find time. Not sure if any of them are online now
[22:24] <randomcpp> ok tomorrow I'll ask them
[22:26] <mefrio> nik90, what do you think about that? http://imagebin.org/267474
[22:26] <nik90> mefrio: oooh that's interesting (the good way)
[22:28] <mefrio> :D
[22:30] <xqwzts> nik90: do you have any idea if they ubuntu-sdk can be used from a non-ubuntu distro?
[22:31] <xqwzts> ive got a crunchbang vm on my work machine, interested in using that when i can
[22:31] <xqwzts> I assume it's just a matter of finding the ubuntu qml components?
[22:32] <nik90> xqwzts: not to my knowledge since you need to pretty much port all the packages that they modified to that distro. I suppose it can be done but would be difficult
[22:32] <xqwzts> ah alrighty
[22:32] <nik90> xqwzts: that said I am not really the right person to talk about packages. Terrible at them.
[22:32] <xqwzts> not worth it i guess
[22:32] <nik90> xqwzts: yes
[22:33] <xqwzts> ill see if i can sneak a ubuntu vm on there then
[22:34] <Cantide> randomcpp, did you try deleting the post and reposting it?
[22:35] <randomcpp> Cantide, yep
[22:35] <randomcpp> no success
[22:35] <Cantide> :'(
[22:37] <mhall119> randomcpp: no appoval necessary
[22:38] <randomcpp> so what's wrong with my post? :/
[22:38] <nik90> mhall119: ah there you are :) Hope you had a nice a conference!
[22:39] <mhall119> randomcpp: not sure...maybe it'll just take a minute to show up
[22:39] <mhall119> nik90: it was great, the XDA community is fantastic
[22:39] <nik90> mhall119: Did they like your XDA app you made?
[22:40] <mhall119> nik90: seemed to, I'm hoping that some of them will help expand it
[22:58] <randomcpp> good night guys
[22:58] <randomcpp> thanks for you help :)