| sergiusens | cjwatson: for testing purposes, I'm looking into adding extra data into the manifest under our CI, something like source: {vcs-bzr: 'lp:...', vcs-rev: '...'} ... technically it works and I can retrieve the autopilot tests from bzr. I'm just wondering if you had a better idea | 00:39 | 
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| SpamapS | Hrm.. something wonky in Ubuntu 13.04 vs. 12.10 and earlier.. | 02:23 | 
| SpamapS | sed -i -e 's/\(^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.*\)"$/\1 nomodeset vga=normal"/' /etc/default/grub | 02:23 | 
| SpamapS | used to ensure we'd get no graphical consoles | 02:23 | 
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| mardy | dobey: pong :-) | 05:42 | 
| dholbach | good morning | 07:06 | 
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| infinity | @pilot out | 09:00 | 
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| mdeslaur | diwic: there is an apparmor API that pulseaudio can use to determine if a client is confined. Please ask tyhicks about it when he gets here | 11:38 | 
| diwic | mdeslaur, okay | 11:39 | 
| diwic | mdeslaur, so yet another build dependency for PulseAudio (apparmor) then? | 11:39 | 
| diwic | mdeslaur, do you think we should have a meeting about PulseAudio + touch + security? | 11:39 | 
| mdeslaur | diwic: we can do that...please invite me, tyhicks and jdstrand | 11:40 | 
| diwic | mdeslaur, btw, a quick question; I added rtkit to my test image, which PulseAudio talks to over system dBus. Is this prohibited on touch? | 11:41 | 
| mdeslaur | diwic: no, that's fine | 11:41 | 
| diwic | mdeslaur, if it's working just like on the desktop then it's something else, but I figured it was worth asking before digging deeper | 11:41 | 
| mdeslaur | I'm not aware of any reason that wouldn't work on touch | 11:42 | 
| diwic | ok | 11:42 | 
| mdeslaur | unless consolekit isn't working on touch or something | 11:42 | 
| diwic | mdeslaur, consolekit? I thought we switched to logind. | 11:44 | 
| mdeslaur | d'uh, yes, logind | 11:44 | 
| tumbleweed | doko: the bug I mentioned last night http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=719485 | 11:47 | 
| ubottu | Debian bug 719485 in src:inventor "[inventor] please explicitly link Decal.so against libc" [Wishlist,Open] | 11:47 | 
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| tkamppeter | I have removed the binary package ghostscript-cups and have moved the contents into cups-filters, is it OK if cups-filters has breaks/conflicts/replaces: ghostscript-cups? Or do I need a ghostscript-cups transitional package (provided by which source package and what should it depend on?). How can I make an update uninstall the current ghostscript-cups when cups-filters 1.0.36 gets installed? | 12:17 | 
| tkamppeter | pitti: ^^ | 12:17 | 
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| sergiusens | cjwatson: hey, did you see my Q about click manifest entries for testing? | 12:51 | 
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| tkamppeter | Anyone can help me with a packaging issue? | 12:54 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: good morning! | 12:58 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: would you be able to regenerate the libqtdbustest and libqtdbusmock jenkins jobs? they don't seem to have picked up the test and coverage reporting that is configured in the back-end configuration | 12:59 | 
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| fginther | pete-woods-lunch, updating jobs now | 13:54 | 
| fginther | pete-woods-lunch, I've finished regenerating the jobs, please let me know if they need more love | 14:43 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: thanks! that seems to have fixed it! | 15:05 | 
| bdmurray | ev: bug 982082 has a couple of links to errors that no longer work (see comment #6). Do you know what might have caused this? | 15:07 | 
| ubottu | bug 982082 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade crashed with IOError in init_proxy(): [Errno 5] Input/output error" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982082 | 15:07 | 
| ev | bdmurray: they're probably on the old database | 15:07 | 
| ev | they're not gone forever. We have a plan to merge the data back in, but it's going to take a couple of weeks | 15:08 | 
| nemo | http://m8y.org/images/temp.png (??) http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt (what I see on terminal) | 15:08 | 
| bdmurray | ev: but I should be able to find similar ones just with a lower count? | 15:09 | 
| jamespage | barry, hey - I was looking at setuptools/distribute merging upstream and someone pointed me at your mail to the debian-python ML | 15:11 | 
| jamespage | barry, are you planning any work in that area this cycle? | 15:12 | 
| stokachu | dholbach: i updated that keepalive merge with your suggested changes | 15:19 | 
| stokachu | dholbach: i dont think it qualifies as a full sync so i kept it as a merge | 15:19 | 
| barry | jamespage: i'd like to, but i'm pretty busy with phone stuff so i don't know if i'll get to it :( | 15:27 | 
| jamespage | barry, thats fine - I just wanted to check that I'm not stepping on your toes or anything if I do | 15:27 | 
| barry | jamespage: no, it would be fantastic if you take it on | 15:27 | 
| barry | jamespage: and i'd be happy to review/test/sponsor | 15:28 | 
| jamespage | barry, thanks | 15:28 | 
| mdeslaur | bdrung: any chance of a new version of ubuntu-dev-tools soon? | 15:30 | 
| ev | bdmurray: I don't follow your question | 15:31 | 
| ev | bdmurray: oh right. Yes :) | 15:32 | 
| bdmurray | ev: I could go to e.u.c/?package=ubuntu-release-upgrader and look for similar IOError crashes | 15:32 | 
| ev | bdmurray: you could look it up by the actual crash signature | 15:32 | 
| dholbach | stokachu, ok cool - will take a look in a bit | 15:43 | 
| stokachu | dholbach: no worries, thanks for the help | 15:44 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: so that change seems to have enabled coverage reporting, but I can't seem to autoland any more (with strange build errors) | 15:46 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: http://s-jenkins:8080/job/libqtdbustest-saucy-amd64-autolanding/4/console | 15:46 | 
| fginther | pete-woods, looking | 15:46 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: thanks :) | 15:46 | 
| fginther | gah!!! | 15:46 | 
| fginther | pete-woods, I found the problem, I've reapproved to retest and will monitor | 15:55 | 
| pete-woods | fginther: excellent, thanks! | 15:59 | 
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| punter | I'm new: I have 3 packages I want to upload to launchpad, 1 is dependent on 2 and 2 on 3. Should I offer them through the same PPA or set up different PPAs given that some people might want to download just 3, or just 2+3 ? | 17:56 | 
| beuno | punter, I don't think you can depend on packages in other PPAs, so you would have to ship them all in the same one | 17:58 | 
| punter | Thanks beuno | 17:59 | 
| knocte | Cimi: ping | 18:40 | 
| achiang | punter: yeah, what beuno said. just put them all in the same PPA | 19:24 | 
| punter | thanks achiang | 19:24 | 
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| bdrung | mdeslaur: i wanted to upload it to debian after you asked me, but it fails in an unstable pbuilder instance: https://paste.debian.net/24738/ | 20:26 | 
| mdeslaur | bdrung: :( | 20:29 | 
| mdeslaur | lool: ^ | 20:29 | 
| mdeslaur | bdrung: perhaps replace "name = name.decode(encoding)" with "name = name and name.decode(encoding)" | 20:34 | 
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| bdrung | mdeslaur: name and name.decode(encoding)? | 20:56 | 
| mdeslaur | yeah, if name != None, it will do the decode | 20:56 | 
| mdeslaur | else it won't | 20:57 | 
| bdrung | okay. if name: name = ... is easier to read | 20:57 | 
| mdeslaur | sure, that works too | 20:57 | 
| bdrung | mdeslaur: will you commit that change? | 20:57 | 
| mdeslaur | uh, sure, one sec | 20:58 | 
| bdrung | thanks | 20:58 | 
| punter | I'm new: When I upload a source package to launchpad, does it automatically get built for every (recent) release of Ubuntu? If not, is there an automatic way to do it other than submit many times? | 21:00 | 
| mdeslaur | bdrung: done, thanks | 21:02 | 
| punter | someone? :( | 21:04 | 
| beuno | punter, so, this is not the right channel to ask for help with PPAs, this is specifically targetted to developing the core of Ubuntu | 21:04 | 
| beuno | punter, I'd suggest #launchpad | 21:04 | 
| punter | Ok, thanks! | 21:05 | 
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| bdrung | mdeslaur: thanks & uploaded. | 21:19 | 
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