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budmangus0r: there are other factors too figure in, one thing at a time.00:00
budmangYou need the rule to repor tin iptables -L00:00
blzPsil0cybin, I think clamwin runs on linux, but it's mainly for the benefit of windows/mac users that may depend on services the linux box provides00:00
blzPsil0cybin, typically email00:00
budmangonce you have it there, you move on to the next steps.00:00
blzPsil0cybin, or SMB00:00
budmang/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT00:00
usr13kubunto: Maybe you could try and remove the backports repositories?00:00
* kubunto has lost all paitence00:00
Psil0cybinokay00:00
DrekAlotsMan. Everything is crashing on this machine. libproxy just took a dump on me as well.00:00
Psil0cybinjust wanted to make sure :)00:00
Psil0cybinyou guys rock00:00
Psil0cybinblz,00:00
kubuntousr13 what the hell does that mean00:00
blzPsil0cybin, the secret is not to run arbitrary, untrusted stuff =)00:01
us0rbudmang: ok thanks, i'll run that real quick00:01
Psil0cybinblz, of course :) just wanted to make sure for web browsing00:01
Psil0cybinetc00:01
Psil0cybinim very keen about not installing untrusted software00:01
Psil0cybinjust wanted to make sure i am doing everything in my power to stay safe ;)00:01
blzPsil0cybin, try this:  sudo apt-get install apparmor-profiles00:01
failmasterPsil0cybin, basically there is no self-copying malware designed for posix, which would have the ways to distribute itself via even presented bugs due to complexity of certain system environment that should meet some requirements to make it possible, however if you're running misconfigured system, you need to take care of rights and user privileges at first matter, while rkhunter is an additional instrument00:01
Psil0cybinbetter be safe than sorry00:01
blzPsil0cybin, that should help isolate your browser a bit00:01
WulframnPsil0cybin: malware works in Wind00:02
Psil0cybinyea yea00:02
Kratisto78Shout out to everyone in this irc.  usr13 really helped me get started.  Wulf helped a ton.  Same with TJ fail everyone.  Thank you for helping me while I tried to not have a heart attack.  Seems like I have to press f12 on boot up each time though.  Weird00:02
Wulframnlol failmaster beat me to it00:02
Psil0cybinbut if i dont have wine00:02
Psil0cybinthen they shoudnt work00:02
usr13kubunto: In your Package Manager, you enabled "backports" right?  (Try dissabling it.)00:02
blzPsil0cybin, then see this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/160758/how-do-i-enable-the-apparmor-profile-for-firefox00:02
WulframnPsil0cybin: even if you have wine no malware should be able to do anything of consequence to your system. =P00:02
kubuntousr13 i am unable to open the @#$%@#$ gui00:02
failmasterPsil0cybin, good news, you can try installing it on wine until you don't use anything but this malware from-under wine environment, not a good idea though LOL00:03
usr13Kratisto78: Glad you figured it out!  :)00:03
WulframnPsil0cybin: I've been running linux systems since 2008 completed unprotected by all that jazz and have never *once* had an issue. Sometimes I intentionally download a virus and insert it into a windows VM just for giggles to remind myself what it was like.00:03
TJ-Kratisto78: There's 2 things: 1) the machine's BIOS/UEFI maybe is configured not to display a splash screen or progress report, and 2) when GRUB loads it is set to hide the menu and not show a timeout prompt. Both things you may want to change!00:03
Psil0cybinhahah Wulframn i love LINUX :)00:03
Psil0cybinhopefully soon one of these days ill know enough and it will be epic00:04
Kratisto78usr13:  Thank you for all your help.  This place is great.  Going to put i3wm on here some time soon.00:04
Psil0cybinim learning im learning00:04
Psil0cybinbeen windows free for a year now :)00:04
Psil0cybini baked a cake the day i formatted my windows 7 box00:04
Psil0cybinand got Xubuntu00:04
Psil0cybin:000:04
WulframnPsil0cybin: we've all been there. No worries00:04
failmastergot old clean shv :D00:04
us0rbudmang: ok, ran it and it printed a blank line like it should00:04
us0rbudmang: check iptables -L again?00:05
usr13kubunto: I suppose you could remove [or comment out] the lines with "backports" in them, in your sources.list file and do:  sudo apt-get update00:05
WulframnKratisto78: I'm glad it worked out. I was worried. That was the first lenovo I'd heard of that had an issue like that (that wasn't caused by a user). I was wondering if I had to start questioning them. =P00:05
kubuntousr13 and where would that be?00:06
usr13kubunto: /etc/apt/sources.list00:06
failmasterwell, looks like grub still needs /boot to be mounted, but maybe i'm missing something, so i don't get it why my setup stopped working and started to ask a custom 3rd party keyscript from me again00:06
Kratisto78TJ-:  I'll check it out.  It seems to skip grub now or I don't have to click anything.  Also the more I think about it I'm fine with the no brightness.  Now i'll always use the minimum amount to save battery and no one can use it without permission hahahaha.  Well unless they load up irc to figure out whats wrong00:06
TJ-Kratisto78: When it boots hold down Shift as soon as possible to get GRUB to show its boot menu00:07
Kratisto78tj-: okay good to know00:07
kubuntousr13: is htere a reason for simple applications to be slow as shit when the packages are screwed up?00:07
Wulframn!language | kubunto00:08
ubottukubunto: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:08
failmasterKratisto78, wait wait so f12 popped the selection menu?00:08
usr13kubunto: I don't know.00:08
blockshadowhallo all00:08
TJ-Jordan_U: Thanks for the suggestion, gdisk did OK :) Now I can get on with recovering the corrupted Logical Volumes in one of the VGs00:08
kubuntousr13 how do i comment lines out in this?00:09
Kratisto78failmaster-: I didn't press fn so i hit brightness plus one and my screen bightness defaulted to 0 so my monitor turned on.00:09
blockshadowhow fix wirless on gnacktrack R5??00:09
usr13kubunto: #00:10
failmasterKratisto78, lol i'm glad for you, do you think that uk government structures blocked usage of lenovo production for a real reason or it's just all about cash?00:10
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wilee-nileeblockshadow, This is ubuntu-support. ;)00:10
Wulframnblockshadow: this room is for Ubuntu related questions. I do not believe this room supports gnacktrack00:10
Wulframnblockshadow: they have their own room at #gnacktrack00:11
Kratisto78failmaster-: No idea haha.  Thanks so much though00:11
failmasterblockshadow, it's a backtrack/kali distribution related questions, but at first we need to know what is broken in order to try to assist you in troubleshooting00:11
usr13kubunto:  #    at beginning of line(s)00:11
blockshadowok tx wulframn :)00:11
nukleuzbudmang: But do KVM work, even tho the server wont boot?00:11
kubuntousr13 no change00:11
usr13kubunto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-to-fix-update-problems-mergelist-parsing-error00:13
peteoIs there a minimum size the flash drive has to be for a live distro?00:14
Nullifi3d~650mb00:14
usr13peteo: One big enough to hold the ISO.  2G maybe?00:15
Kratisto78Peace out guys love you all00:15
usr13Kratisto78: Thanks for the vote of confidence :)00:16
istiaqueWhat is alternative soft of Foxit pdf editor?00:16
failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?00:16
peteook so 8g will be fine?00:16
WulframnIt's that moment...when you've been compiling packages in portage for more than an hour...that you look and realize that all of the longest-to-compile packages are all qt packages you didn't need and could've excluded with a simple USE flag...that you forgot to define. *sigh*00:17
usr13peteo: Oh yea.00:17
Wulframnpeteo: That is more than enough00:17
peteook cool00:17
DrekAlotsDoes Ubuntu use UUID's the standard /dev/sdb method of mounting drives in fstab on boot?00:17
us0rbudmang: g2g, thx for the help :)00:18
usr13DrekAlots: Yes00:18
failmasterDrekAlots, yep00:18
DrekAlotsis one way preferred over the other?00:19
WulframnDrekAlots: I am under the impression that UUIDs are considered superior to labels00:19
usr13DrekAlots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab00:19
usr13DrekAlots: uuids are better because they don't change00:20
kubuntousr13: the error did not change00:20
DrekAlotsusr13: thanks.00:20
DrekAlotsWulframn: Thanks00:20
WulframnDrekAlots: that was all usr13 =)00:21
WulframnI'm just here to hang out and occassionally spam the room with musings. =P00:21
DrekAlotsI'm used to labels coming from Gentoo for the past 5yrs.00:21
* Wulframn is a Gentoo user, too00:21
usr13kubunto: Did you do:  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf    ?00:21
kubuntousr13 yes00:22
DrekAlotsI enjoy Gentoo. If Ubuntu keeps pissing me off I may go back. lol00:22
usr13kubunto: After that, did you do:   sudo apt-get update   ?00:22
WulframnDrekAlots: two different distros for two different people/jobs.00:22
kubuntousr13 yes00:22
usr13kubunto: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure00:22
DrekAlotsWulframn: Indeed. We use Ubuntu at work so I'm trying to get used to it by running it on my own machine. I took a stage4 of my gentoo install before going to ubuntu though. lol00:23
ameri-drydoes any one know of a good channel for beginner devs looking to code for the ubuntu touch platform00:23
kubuntousr13, I cannot even do step one as this has broke my update manager00:23
dr_willis!touch | ameri-dry00:24
ubottuameri-dry: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch00:24
DrekAlotsok. I just clicked on a mounted parition and now I have no menu bars... no unity. wth. how can i restart unity?00:24
failmasterDrekAlots, the difference is that you can still build debian-based distros from source while you can't get those pre-compiled binaries as packages in gentoo or am i worng?00:24
dr_willisDrekAlots:  try alt-f2 'compiz --replace'00:24
usr13kubunto:  pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list  #And send resulting URL00:24
Wulframnfailmaster: you can get binaries in gentoo; depends on what you're trying to do00:25
DrekAlotsdr_willis: alt+f2 is not working.00:25
failmasterthat's what i'm saying =)00:25
ameri-drythank you drwillis00:25
dr_willisDrekAlots:  head to the console and restsrat the lightdm service, and that will restart x.. i guess.. or you could try some other ways to force compiz to restart.. easier to just log out/back in00:25
budmangnukleuz: yes, thats what KVM is for, you access it on a seperate IP/vlan/vpn etc..00:26
budmangIP KVM.00:26
failmasterguys, i need some backup on understanding this thing... it doesn't necessarily means that we have the device mounted on /boot during initrd stage? http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#prefix00:27
nukleuzAnyone that can explain to me how KVM works? Can i remote KVM to a server that wont boot? O.o Does the server need any software installed to get that working, or is the «Virtual Machine Manager» on the client everything I need? Get's a notice that pkg «libvirt-bin» and «libvirtd» is missing, but I dont understand if that is on the client or the server?00:27
usr13kubunto: pastebin your sources.list file00:28
kubuntoworking on it00:29
rjknight1hello guys... may I ask how the ldap users become a sudoer on the ubuntu client?00:29
jpdsrjknight1: Make them part of the sudo group?00:30
kubuntousr13: paste.ubuntu.com.597932000:30
rjknight1@jpds : Yes00:30
kubuntousr13: paste.ubuntu.com/5979320/00:30
TJ-nukleuz: I think you have your KVMs mixed up. In terms of remote-hands on servers, KVM == Keyboard Video Mouse, which is a way to access the hardware console remotely. KVM in virtualisation is the Linux Kernel Virtual Machine - something totally different.00:31
usr13kubunto: can't find the server at paste.ubuntu.com.597932000:31
kubuntousr13: paste.ubuntu.com/5979320/00:31
DrekAlotswell, restarting lightdm crashed my machine.00:32
TJ-nukleuz: servers deployed in data-centres often have either KVM ethernet switches or use IPMI for out-of-band remote hardware console access00:32
failmasterwhy everything that affects cryptsetup reported as a bug becomes a "Shishlist" or a "Question" while it is clear that it's a bug00:33
failmasterwhishlist*00:33
nukleuzTJ-: Ah, I sure did mix up! :O But how can i figure out if my server does have KVM? What software to use?00:34
nukleuzTJ-: I'm using SSH usuallt00:34
TJ-nukleuz: You'd need to ask your data-centre provider. If it's a virtual machine (VPS) then they'll usually have an out-of-band access to the VM's console.00:35
nukleuzTJ-: No, its not a VM.00:35
TJ-nukleuz: Dedicated box? I'd assume they'd have KVM access over the net for that00:36
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CoburnCan Ubuntu be run on a non-PAE processor?00:40
CoburnI have a Pentium M Motion Computing LE1600 Tablet that doesn't support PAE00:40
Coburntherefore, it only sees 1.5GB out of 2GB of RAM00:40
MoPacHello. In 13.10 or future Mir releases, are there plans for an engine to remember window placement that is more sophisticated than the current compiz plugin, or should I still be spending time trying to configure devilspie and devilspie-based programs?00:40
failmasterTJ-, i believe this guy experienced similar issue related to using key file for his swap partition https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163 and i've seen your report about custom keyscripts, why is that "whishlist" when it must work according to what said in cyptsetup references currently? (but mostly not defined clearly)00:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 238163 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "keyfile doesn't work in initramfs" [Undecided,New]00:40
nukleuzTJ-: yep :) Its dedicated, but isnt it strange that they didnt provide me that information when I signed up for it, if they have KVM or not?00:41
TJ-Coburn: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE00:41
TJ-nukleuz: It may be you have to pay for remote-hands support in this kind of case. It's something you should ask before getting into such a hosting contract, its a key requirement for many00:42
zykotick9Coburn: ahhhh, even non-PAE 32bit can see 3+GB RAM, is your 2GB perhaps shared with video?00:43
TJ-Coburn: I was about to say what zykotick9 said00:43
wilee-nileeCoburn, You can do net installs besides the wiki's info, now called the alternative since 12.10.00:43
kubuntousr13 are you still here00:44
peteotrying to install ubuntu 12.04..2 LTS and it says that I need to define a root filesystem before I do the install. How do I create a root filesystem?00:44
Coburnwell, if it heps00:44
Coburnhelps*00:44
Coburnthe chipset is i91500:45
Coburnit's old, I know00:45
wilee-nileepeteo, This a manual install / is the mount, are you making a separate home00:45
kubuntoyay for no @#$!#$! help00:45
Coburnhmmm00:46
kubunto2nd time nothing has improved happy days00:46
Coburnlet me boot it up00:46
peteowhat do you mean by that  a manual install / is the mount00:46
Coburnit has no battery to I need the AC jack plugged00:46
dr_willis!patience00:46
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/00:46
kubuntodr_willis, patience is gone00:46
dr_willispeteo:  / is the mountpoint for the main os00:47
wilee-nileepeteo, Are you using the something other option, that is a manual install. In that gui you are asked a mount it is / that is root.00:47
peteoI dont know00:47
kubunto3rd time and i will be forced to nuke what I have00:47
CoburnHmmm00:47
CoburnWeird00:47
dr_willis  root of the fs is called root = /00:47
CoburnIt's only reporting 1536MB RAM00:48
wilee-nileetrue dat00:48
peteoI did n show the sompthing other optoin it jst went to the screen that has the option to create a new partition table and some other things00:48
kubunto[ing usr1300:48
failmasteri have a question related to support politics in general, should i keep hope alive for getting support/attention to bug reports when they keep appear (i believe related to the issue i'm facing atm) since 2008 and pop-up in it's variations making it difficult to have one the same system configuration scenario? question appears after about a week since reviving rusty bug report and sitting on freenode and after 3 days of question being posted on askubuntu for00:49
failmaster example00:49
dr_willispeteo:  you define a /  partition  and a swap partion  as a minimum    normally00:49
wilee-nileepeteo, That much misspelling is confusion, seems like a place to get this correct.00:49
scathen^Chey all, i am running an app that listens on a particular port (say 6969). What would eb right way to go about only allowing my home computers ip to access my server on that port, and ignore everything else? I have nginx installed, is that something you would use that for?00:49
TJ-Coburn: as zykotick9 said, maybe the rest is shared with the graphics chipset? Check /var/log/dmesg to see how memory is organised00:49
CoburnI don't know... I've gotta boot ubuntu on it first :P00:50
peteocurse my fat fingers!00:50
wilee-nilee;) it happens00:50
Coburnactually, let me boot partedmagic onto it00:50
Coburnthat way I can pop open a shell00:50
Coburnunless the RAM itself has issues...00:50
* Coburn wonders where he put his liveUSB of PartedMagic00:51
jribscathen^C: use iptables00:51
peteoit says it is starting the main partitioner00:51
scathen^Cjrib: thanks00:51
wilee-nileefailmaster, Life is not exacting, and neither is support.00:54
themhzhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/331860/how-to-create-my-own-screenlet00:55
peteowhen the installer goes to the Installation type headinf of the install menu it gives me a blank window that says "Device, Type, Mount Pint, Used Space" across the top and the window is blank,00:56
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wilee-nileepeteo, You might take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin, it would answer a few questions I might have myself.00:57
wilee-nilee!imagebin | peteo00:58
ubottupeteo: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.00:58
peteook00:58
CoburnDownloading the netinstall image for Ubuntu00:58
Coburnwill boot it up on the tablet and get a dmesg (hopefully)00:59
zykotick9Coburn: ahhh, you want a livecd - not a netinstall, if you want to do something besides install...01:00
Coburnwell, on the netinstall, I can just alt+f2 to get myself a shell01:01
Coburnthen punch in "dmesg | more"01:01
zykotick9Coburn: are you sure?  i'm not.01:01
CoburnYeah, I've used it when I'm in a pickle with some systems01:01
Coburn:)01:01
failmasterit's like heroin, at first you get addicted, share the dose with your rookery mates, accepting and helping to get first shot for newbies and later you suddenly realize that you ruined your life being old drug-addicted retard lol01:02
Coburn.... and the tablet just boots windows01:02
* Coburn stares at the tablet01:02
wilee-nileefailmaster, This is a family channel treat it as such.01:02
peteo_http://imagebin.org/267336 here it is01:03
wilee-nileepeteo_, Gparted is in the menu, is this a W8 dual boot or was W8 ever on the computer?01:03
peteo_wilee-nilee, W8 has never been on this computer01:04
Coburndamn stupid fast boot windows >_>01:05
Coburnblocks my access to bios >_>01:05
BjondCoburn: I heard about people going back to those Motions, hope that works out for you.01:05
CoburnWell, the fact I like about it is01:05
CoburnPen!01:06
CoburnPrecision Tocuh01:06
Coburnrather than "fat finger" press01:06
wilee-nileepeteo_, So what your showing is the something other option a manual install nothing is showing, is this a new hard drive are there any partitions on it?01:06
CoburnI don't really care for multitouch, at least I can use the pen for paint artistic works (I can't draw but w/e)01:06
peteo_wilee-nilee, this is a new HD to the computer01:07
wilee-nileepeteo_, Do you just want ubuntu on it?01:07
peteo_wilee-nilee, yes01:07
wilee-nileepeteo_, Cool are you sure the hard drive has a partition table?01:08
CoburnOK!01:08
CoburnUbuntu Installer01:08
CoburnSelect a language01:08
peteo_wilee-nilee, I dont think so, don't know how to put on on either01:08
* Coburn grabs keyboard01:09
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wilee-nileepeteo_, Close the installer and open gparted from the menu, you can make a partition table there. Then just run the install and choose the install at the gui before the one you are showing.01:09
Coburnokay folks01:10
CoburnHmmm01:10
CoburnOdd, it says it's only picking up 1536MB Memory01:10
Coburnwhat line am I looking for to see how much the GPU is using?01:11
wilee-nileepeteo, Here is the gparted manual. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-create-partition-table01:11
wilee-nileemsdos is what you want for a table peteo01:12
peteo_wilee-nilee, when I go to create a new partition I get "A new partition table cannot be created when there are active partitions.  Active partitions are those that are in use, such as a mounted file system, or enabled swap space. Use Partition menu options, such as unmount or swapoff, to deactivate all partitions on this device before creating a new partition table."01:12
wilee-nileepeteo_, Take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.01:13
Coburnpeteo_: open terminal. sudo fdisk /dev/sdX where sdX is your hdd's name.01:13
Coburnthen at the prompt, do 'o'01:13
Coburnmake sure you get "building new disklabel"01:13
Coburnthen 'w'01:13
Coburnexit01:14
Coburnthat will blank the MBR01:14
CoburnHOWEVER, you will lose any partitions on that disk!01:14
wilee-nileeCoburn, would you like to help this person?01:14
peteo_wilee=nilee, http://imagebin.org/26733701:14
CoburnOH01:14
Coburnpeteo_:01:14
Coburnwhat is your computer? is it UEFI ready?01:15
CoburnOr is it just BIOS01:15
peteo_what?01:15
CoburnI have seen your issue01:15
CoburnThe Ubuntu installer is thinking your USB stick is the first HDD01:15
Coburnyou need to point it to the second HDD01:15
Coburnwhich would be /dev/sdb01:15
wilee-nileepeteo_, THat is showing your usb, it happens at times that a HD and the usb get reversed, use the drop down top left to get to the hard drive, and do a screen shot if it.01:16
Coburnin the dropdown on the gparted window, do you have an entry for /dev/sdb ?01:16
peteo_http://imagebin.org/26733801:16
wilee-nileeCoburn, You are interrupting things are fine without your help.01:16
CoburnMy apologies01:16
CoburnI'll go back to installing Ubuntu01:17
* Coburn spins around on his chair01:17
wilee-nileepeteo_, Same thing, that is your usb, top right corner drop down choose the actual Hard drive, and take a screen shot should be sdb.01:18
peteo_wilee-nilee, there is no sdb01:18
Coburnodd01:18
wilee-nileepeteo_, YOu have a HD in the computer right, if so you need to reseat it.01:18
Coburn^01:19
Coburnthat, or the cables aren't properly plugged in01:19
Coburnor something01:19
peteo_wilee-nilee, how do I reseat it?01:19
Coburnyou'll have to open up the computer01:19
Coburnis this laptop or desktop?01:19
peteo_so it's an actual physical thing that I need to change?01:19
peteo_desktop01:20
wilee-nileepeteo_, Coburn seems to want to help you I will let you guys work this out.01:20
wilee-nileeCoburn, welcome to ignore01:20
Coburnpeteo_: what's your PC's brand (make) and model?01:20
peteo_it is a dell opteplex GX26001:21
CoburnAh, good 'ol dells01:21
peteolovely arnt they01:21
CoburnDid you get a new hard disk installed in it?01:21
peteoI pu a new one in it, the other one was corruppt01:21
CoburnAs in, take it into a store, and they fitted a new HDD into it?01:21
CoburnI see.01:22
peteono I did it myself01:22
CoburnRight.01:22
CoburnAlright, so when you put it in, there's a chance that you might have not plugged the cables in 100%, which means that the computer makes bad contact with the device01:22
Coburnthus, causing the HDD to not appear.01:22
peteook I'll open it up now01:23
Coburnwhat you need to do is open up the PC and check your cables01:23
peteook can do01:23
Coburnjust gently push them into their proper areas01:23
peteoit's shutting down now01:23
CoburnNo problem01:24
CoburnEven a minor loose cable can be a headache01:24
CoburnI've had ones myself01:24
Coburnespecially IDE cables... Those things are crap01:24
TJ-Depending on the disk type, could be a jumper setting issue01:24
Coburnassuming the DELL is running SATA, shouldn't matter, but if it's IDE, then yes. Valid point, TJ-01:25
Coburn:)01:25
CoburnI had a DELL Optiplex 74001:25
CoburnAMD box, rescued it from school dump01:25
CoburnRan Windows/Nix fanasticly01:25
kubuntoissue resolved01:26
kubuntogood day everyone01:26
peteook trying again01:27
failmastercan make intel centrino wlan adapter running into ap mode? not ubuntu-related but still01:28
failmasteri*01:28
TJ-failmaster: that will depend on the driver, available firmwares, and/or hostapd01:29
failmastergot it01:29
peteoI will be bck in like 10-15 mins. (Have to take a shower now)01:29
peteochange that 15-20min01:32
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darkelfjuggaloI have a few program files I am not permitted to make Changes to, but I need to in order to make the program work the way I want to. Can someone tell me how to do this?01:43
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benzrfhey, I have a Radeon card01:48
wilee-nileedarkelfjuggalo, To get help here you need to tell the channel the details, the programs and your methods used and end goals01:48
benzrfthe default driver doesn't support webgl, anybody know if fgrlx will?01:48
daftykinsbenzrf: one way to find out!01:49
Ari-Yangbenzrf, no don't "one way to find out"01:50
Ari-Yangbenzrf, google, cuz fglrx might just mess you up and screw you over01:50
darkelfjuggalowilee-nilee, I am trying to save patterns and brush tips to gimp2.8 in the gimp chatroom i was asked if trying to save to /home/yourusername/.gimp-2.8 but the only folder I can find is /usr/share/.gimp-2.8/01:50
wilee-nileedarkelfjuggalo, "the channel"01:51
Ari-Yangbenzrf, do not risk it, google if fglrx can do what you want before trying it01:51
clj_newb_2345can anyone point me at a guide for gettig mac keyboard to work with ubuntu 13.04 ?01:51
darkelfjuggaloI can only pull this folder up through a direct file search01:51
clj_newb_2345I get an error saying that bluez can not be --configured01:51
daftykinsAri-Yang: odd approach. more might be learnt in the process01:51
darkelfjuggalook channel...01:52
Ari-Yangdaftykins, thing is, fglrx /can/ and /might/ mess up somebody's graphics. I've seen it happen to people ;O01:52
Ari-Yangjust don't want benzrf risking it and it turns out it was all for not01:52
daftykinsAri-Yang: sure, here too01:52
wilee-nileedarkelfjuggalo, My guess would be in .config, just a guess though.01:52
daftykinsAri-Yang: fair enough. the warning is definitely wise *tips hat*01:53
Ari-Yang*nod*01:53
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darkelfjuggalowilee-nilee i found it through computer...permissions say only root can use is, how would i go about inculding my personal login name to the owner?01:54
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: Are you using gimp 2.8? It should have created its directory in your home directory ~/.gimp-2.8/ containing lots of sub-dirs and files too. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979508/01:55
darkelfjuggaloit created it i usr/share/ I cannot access it anywhere else01:56
darkelfjuggalox01:58
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: Did you install gimp 2.8 manually? Or run it as 'root' ?01:58
darkelfjuggalomanually01:58
darkelfjuggalosudo is th closest to root i use... but i installed the .deb file for gimp so i didn't have to command line01:59
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TJ-darkelfjuggalo: Ahhhh! did you use "apt-get install gimp" or something like "dpkg -i gimp-2.8.deb" ?02:00
quidnuncHow do I install virtualbox guest additions on 13.04?02:01
wilee-nileequidnunc, 13.04 the host or guest?02:02
darkelfjuggaloTJ-, I thought I installed it through a direct download, but I just double checked, Gimp.org directions are apt-get install gimp. I have to sudo or su to make apt-get work02:02
quidnuncwilee-nilee: Both but host is 32-bit, guest is 64-bit02:03
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: I suspect you installed it directly, and missed off installing key packages used by Debian/Ubuntu02:03
clj_newb_2345is bluetooth broken on ubuntu?02:03
quidnuncwilee-nilee: There are a bunch of "guest-additions" packages but I don't know if they should be installed on guest or host?02:03
wilee-nileequidnunc, In the top panel of vbox is a dropdown for guest additions02:03
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: What does this tell you? "dpkg-query -l g'imp*'  "02:03
clj_newb_2345how do I even debug an error that syas "bluez failed to --configure"02:03
quidnuncwilee-nilee: Is that the right thing to do on Ubuntu?02:03
quidnuncWhat are all the packages?02:03
wilee-nileequidnunc, Install in the guest, did you install dkms in the host?02:04
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darkelfjuggaloi followed the instructions. I can run the program and use all of the features, but i cannot save to it additional patterns themes and such02:05
Coburnwith netinst of Ubuntu, what packages does "Ubuntu touch" install? Do I need "Ubuntu Desktop" selected or will it install most of the desktop packages with touch ability?02:05
wilee-nileequidnunc, You will need to add the host user to the vbox group as well, you might try the #vbox channel to.02:06
darkelfjuggalohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5979546/02:06
quidnuncwilee-nilee: Okay, I will try #vbox.02:07
peteoHave to go will try new hd in morning02:07
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: That looks good; as I'd expect. The only thing I can think is that there are restrictive permissions on your home directory preventing gimp from creating it's own config dir02:08
darkelfjuggalohow do I fix this?02:08
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: fix what?02:09
darkelfjuggaloi guess the proper question is How do I add my personal log-in to Root usergroup to by pass this problem in the future without having to log into root?02:09
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: Find out the real problem first, don't guess. Check out the man-page "man gimp! and read the ENVIRONMENT and FILES sections carefully; they spell out how gimp figures out where its personal directory is. You might have an environment shell variable set to over-ride the default02:09
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: "man 1 gimp"02:10
TALELI'm having trouble getting my phone bluetooth to sync with my ubuntu laptop, everytime I attempt to pair the devices it fails02:11
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: you wouldnt do that02:11
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: what is the goal?02:11
thewhistlepighello02:12
darkelfjuggaloTJ-, i am in man 1 gimp, what next?02:12
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: At a terminal, start it with "gimp --verbose | tee /tmp/gimp.log" and then press Ctrl+C to kill it once it has loaded. Then read "/tmp/gimp.log" especially the first few lines, to see what it is doing to look for its user directory02:12
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: i thought you downloaded a .deb for GIMP?02:13
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: page down in the manual to the ENVIRONMENT and FILES sections, they explain how it decides the user directory name and location.02:13
TJ-holstein: If so, that would explain the problem, because it sounds as if the installed gimp isn't configured correctly02:14
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: if so, you ask the maintainer of the package you downloaded for support02:14
darkelfjuggaloholstein, i download a deb for everything i can, so i assumed i did for gimp, gimp download page is repository instructions for flavors02:14
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: you shouldnt download a .deb for everything you can.. you should try the one in the repos, and move on if needed02:14
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: Let's find out: what does this report? "apt-cache policy gimp"02:15
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: What version of Ubuntu are you using?02:15
darkelfjuggaloTJ- 13.0402:15
darkelfjuggaloim trying to keep up with instructions but the chat log is pushing everything off my screen too fast02:16
TJ-darkelfjuggalo: OK, so if you install from the Ubuntu archive there's no reason for it to be broken. You might try removing and reinstalling, to be sure. That'd be "sudo apt-get --purge remove gimp gimp-data" then "sudo apt-get install gimp"02:16
p0rki am mounting an nfs share from my NAS to my security camera server but the contents of a different nfs share are showing up inside02:17
p0rkwtf?02:17
holsteinp0rk: is the NAS running ubuntu?02:18
p0rkits running debian02:18
p0rkthe camera server is running ubuntu02:18
holsteinp0rk: is the camera running ubuntu?02:18
p0rkthe camera server is running ubuntu02:19
p0rkcan i only have one NFS export?02:19
darkelfjuggaloTJ- you asked for this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979570/02:20
TJ-darkelfjuggalo:  :D no... I can read it here... I wanted *you* to read those sections to understand how GIMP figures out its user directory name and location02:20
darkelfjuggalooh, i'm lost on what it is meaning02:21
holsteindarkelfjuggalo: where did you get this .deb?02:21
renzohi all...quick question! Ubuntu 13.04 doesn't work at all in my laptop. What would you install: 12.10 or 12.04 because it's LTS? I know both work well on my hardware! Thanks for your replies :)02:22
TJ-holstein: According to dpkg-query -l, the correct Ubuntu versions are installed02:22
darkelfjuggaloholstein, moving away from the .deb for gimp... gimp.org does not offer it...only instructions to  'apt-get install gimp'02:22
holsteinrenzo: 12.04 is what i would use02:22
p0rkum. so why did you ask if it was ubuntu only to ignore me?02:23
renzo@holstein Thanks for your opinion. Do you think i'd be missing any feature in contrast to 12.10?02:24
Ari-Yangrenzo, I use 12.1002:25
Ari-Yang** OS: Linux 3.10.0-996-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10 **02:25
wilee-nileep0rk, You mentioned debian, this is ubuntu support that would be asked by most helpers.02:25
p0rki figured02:26
p0rkrather than help, find a reason not to02:26
wilee-nilee!attitude | p0rk02:26
ubottup0rk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:26
wilee-nileethere are channel technical rules02:27
renzoAri-Yang: i'm currently using 12.10 too, but since i was about to reinstall I want to decide if keeping 12.10 or switching to 12.0402:27
daftykinsLTS has its' benefits02:28
leethackerHi!02:30
wilee-nileerenzo, 12.04 has 5 years support 12.10 is the same except for a few app having a later version maybe, with a 3rd of the support time.02:30
leethackerCan I has help plz?02:31
wilee-nilee!root02:31
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:31
renzothanks daftykins and wilee-nilee, i think i got the answer i needed! :)02:31
leethackeris ubuntoo the same as linux? :)02:32
Yvain_yes02:32
leethackeris linux the same as windoes?02:35
leethackerwhere is the c:\ drive pls?02:36
debsanno c:\ drive in linux02:36
debsanit's /02:37
leethackeroh ok my b so where is c:/?02:37
Skepchurnhttp://mrkinnikumike.blogspot.com/02:37
rjknight1how about drive D:\ E:\ F:\02:37
rjknight1?02:37
leethackeri dont need those02:38
Yvain_Trolololololl02:38
failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?02:42
michaelwarbrickhi.. how can i get sound working on my desktop02:43
michaelwarbrickubuntu 12.0402:43
Wulframn!alsa02:43
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.02:43
michaelwarbricki'm getting no sound, even though it's not muted or anything02:43
michaelwarbrickhaha02:44
michaelwarbrickyou'll never guess what the problem was02:44
michaelwarbrick.... plugged in headphones into wrong computer02:44
wilee-nileemichaelwarbrick, Now do 3 homer simpson Doh's. ;)02:45
icelitedoh doh fuckin doh02:45
icelitelol02:45
icelite:D02:45
FloodBot1icelite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:46
icelitesorry FloodBot02:46
Wulframn!language02:46
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:46
h00kicelite: also mind the language02:46
iceliteSorry again02:46
iceliteIm new here02:46
WulframnYou're fine, just mind yourself. =P02:46
scathen^Cif people were truly family friendly, they would teach their kids that having taboo words is nonsense.02:47
Wulframnscathen, it's more complicated than that02:47
scathen^Ci'm sorry i didn't want to get into a debate (sometimes my hands just type what i'm thinking). but i am curious, as to how it's more complicated.02:48
failmasteragreed with taboo words statement ^02:48
WulframnI'm on my phone, but basically humans need taboo words/topics02:49
zqwhat's with dbus showing up in the dependencies of nearly every single recent gui package?02:49
zqis there a way around this?02:49
Wulframnzq, don't use a gui! =P02:50
zqWulframn: i already don't, but for some things a gui could save lots of time02:50
WulframnI was just joking02:50
zqyeah, but mine was a sincere question02:50
failmasterwhy do u care about dbus or additional packages stuff? i admit maybe it shouldn't be like that, but it would be a real problem if the space on / was limited02:51
TJ-zq: It is so that menu structures can be passed acros DBus, regardless of the toolkit (GTK/QT/etc) in use02:51
zqTJ-: would you mind expanding on that, or perhaps have a link to share?02:51
Wulframnfailmaster, that's half the point of Linux02:51
Wulframntweaking, making the system smaller and more efficient02:52
zqfailmaster: because it's an extra process that just sits there02:52
TJ-zq: There was a discussion on ubuntu-devel mailing list some time ago about it, can't remember all the ins and outs now02:52
failmasterWulframn, i'm from dark ages of slackware02:52
daftykinsand not actually getting around to doing stuff ;)02:52
failmasterso i kno02:52
zqfor something like, say, wicd, it's understandable (but still less than efficient)02:52
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TJ-zq: I found this... took some digging. https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/common-libraries/02:57
zqTJ-: thanks, having a look02:58
StylesIs it possible to have a raid 5 that would work on windows & ubuntu without a hardware raid02:58
L-samaanybody still using sorcerer?03:00
michaelwarbrickwilee-nilee: lol.. problem with having 3 computers on the one desk with 5 monitors haha03:02
wilee-nilee;)03:03
zqso unity is the one dragging in all these dbus dependencies03:05
zqbecause the guis have to be unity-compliant03:05
zqi'm not even using unity03:05
zqugh03:05
zqchoices: 1. debian sarge; 2. dpkg-buildpackage; 3. arch; 4. stop bitching, zq03:06
Yvain_Yeah well Canonical might as well be Google03:07
Yvain_It's good your not using Uni-track03:07
zq:(03:07
zqwell judging from the trajectory of the fundraising efforts for the edge, canonical is still in the wannabe stage03:08
Yvain_Wannabe, but they are still exploiting people like Google03:08
Yvain_Zq, if your problem is unity, and you like Ubuntu, why not use Xubuntu, or a non-unity distro?03:09
wilee-nileeYvain_, In your own words "Trolololololl"03:09
Yvain_Xubuntu won't drag all the baggage Unity does03:10
zqYvain_: that won't work because the dbus dependencies live at a per-package granularity03:10
TJ-zq: I wouldn't worry, it's all change again "In general, the big migration here is away from DBusMenu (which was Ubuntu-only) to GMenu which is in GLib." 2013-07-2403:10
zqit's pretty much checkmate03:11
zqshort of dpkg-buildpackaging your own mix03:12
zqthanks guys, laters03:12
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Guest95965How do you add additional panels/taskbars onto the desktop in gnome classic/ubuntu 12.0403:13
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failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?03:14
xmetalhmm03:15
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acovrigWhat would be the best way of providing microsoft office to 3 people (concurrently) who would click any download button they see (so I don't want to just install 7-not looking forward to dealing w/a trojan again)03:19
pvl1acovrig: not ubuntu related03:19
acovrigI know, but I was wondering if someone would recommend a VM setup (what I'm thinking about)03:20
acovrigI'm thinking of 3 windows 7 VMs in VirtualBox that I'll install and take a snapshot so when they get a virus I can jump back to that; does this seem over complicated?03:22
xmetalbrb looking up issues i am having with newegg03:22
pvl1acovrig: im not understanding. you want to provde ms office to 3 ppl?03:24
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acovrigyes (siblings taking IC3)03:24
acovrigI like the idea of VirtualBox accessed via RDP because it can be accessed by a tablet (w/a USB keyboard)03:25
xmetalmay be worth just paying about $10 more for this item .. .anyway .. where did chat go? lol03:26
pvl1acovrig: thats not concurent to three people, except unless you have 3 vms. have you seen http://desktop.onlive.com/03:26
pvl1acovrig: or are you trying to go the free route03:26
acovrigideally, yes and I was planning on 3 VMs03:26
xmetal:-" libre or Open office03:27
pvl1acovrig: i just use google docs. so i cant help ya there03:27
xmetaloops wrong chat for that 'face'03:28
acovrigthey use libre now, but IC3 will be hard for them anyway, not to mention all the screenshots are going to be office 201003:30
pvl1acovrig: x over ssh, wine. 1 vm, 3 users, 3 instances of ms office. check the wine site to see which version of ms office is good to go03:34
pvl1acovrig: 3 vms would eat a LOT of ram imo03:34
pvl1acovrig: highly inefficient and power consuming03:34
deepinhello03:35
pvl1hello03:35
deepinwhere are u from03:36
pvl1the internet03:36
thiebaudehaha03:36
deepin- -03:37
pvl1deepin: whats your question03:39
Geoffroi_SuibhneHello everyone, Geoffroi_Suibhnehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.03:40
thiebaudego away,lol03:40
acovrigpvl1: I have 2 systems (old: 512MB RAM, everything is IDE) and 2 PPC mac G5s I bet I can't do anything with these can I?03:41
xmetalanyway they are able to run open or libre office .. instead of messing with MS office via wine over Vmbox or whatever ?03:41
acovrigxmetal: that would be wonderful (especially given 1 is already running ubuntu desktop w/libre) but they are quite illiterate so IC3 is going to be hard in itself, and all the screenshots r gonna b of ms office which would make it too confusing :/03:42
pvl1acovrig: how much ram on the g5's03:43
pvl1acovrig: so far your still looking at my wine/x-over-ssh solution03:44
acovrig8GB I think03:45
acovrigcould I run office in wine on a PPC (wouldn't it require intel)?03:45
pvl1no idea03:48
pvl1try compiling it acovrig that would be fun03:48
pvl1acovrig: 8gb would probably be enough for 3 vm's03:48
* acovrig lol03:48
pvl1but i just dont like the idea03:48
pvl1acovrig: windows 7 what version03:48
pvl1because theres an rdp feature for sharing just a program03:49
kalakjHello Everyone, i am using Ubuntu 12.04  x64 LTS, and it is having problem of Restart instead of shutdown, maximum no. of times,, i currently using BURG, instead of GRUB, i also tried to tweak using some flags in GRUB, installed laptop mode tools, this and that, but all are in vain. How to solve that?? BIOS Update was not available for my laptop , LENOVO B480, bios smbios H5ET32WW (1.05 )03:49
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pvl1acovrig: i tink youd be best of one vm, 3 accounts either way. but there is an rdp feature in win7 ultimate that allows you to share programs. kinda kool go research it03:49
Guest38244can you use adobe photoshop using linux????03:49
acovrigpvl1: yes, but the fact that there PPCs are *very* limiting, they can't run any windows or the latest flash (in mac any who, I haven't tried ubuntu yet)03:49
deepinemm,,i have no question ,,,just chatting03:50
kalakjdeepin: Can u help me03:50
acovrigpvl1: I didn't know that, 1 VM would be *much* better especially given I have a fully legit 7 w/office 2010 in a VM already I can just move over03:50
pvl1deepin: dont wanna be mean, but the ops and ppls wanna keep this ubuntu specific help. theres ubuntu-offtopic if u just wanna talk. i think theyre currently discussing breaking bad... so im not listening03:50
failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?03:50
pvl1acovrig: but what ver win703:51
pvl1kalakj: im not sure what is wrong03:51
acovrigI wanna say ultimate so this could work, but I guess any way I look at it I'm still gonna need a new system (good luck trying to run a win7 VM on a 512MB system)03:51
kalakjpvl1: hmm, thanks ,but i have tried many OL solutions but these are not working03:52
deepinwhat's ur question03:52
pvl1failmaster: launchpad says its a confirmed bug03:53
failmasterfailmaster, where?03:54
kalakjpvl1: I am surprised that Ubuntu Developers are messing with such program, which were working well in earlier versions strange, they should not mess with things that are working fine, instead they should work on the programs, that need attentions03:54
failmasterpvl1, where?03:54
acovrigI forgot about ubuntu-offtopic, I guess thats where I should be; thanks pvl1 for the help I'll probably end up building an UbuntuDesktop that will autologin and open firefox and auto boot the 7vm in headless mode and use it sorta as a media PC as well03:54
naouguhquit03:54
naouguhquit03:54
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failmasterpvl1, could you point at the bug please?03:55
pvl1failmaster: its the response to the link you provided. hold please03:56
pvl1acovrig: sounds hip03:56
failmasterpvl1, it's my own response to myself which points to the bug that could probably correlate with this issue, however i experienced this setup working03:56
pvl1kalakj: im not understanding of what your issue is03:56
pvl1failmaster: oh. lol fail. sorry i have no experience with this. but is this not working at all? id recommend the typical debug stuff. logs, running stuff in verbose03:57
kalakjpvl1: my issue is that, whenever i shutdown my laptop, it restarts, instead of shutdown, and in windows it is properly shutting down, in ubuntu 10.04 or 11.10, it was properly shutting down, but in ubuntu 12.04 LTS, it is restarting03:58
pvl1kalakj: are you on the system now03:58
kalakjyes03:58
pvl1kalakj: or are we talking from another03:58
pvl1oh03:58
pvl1kalakj: even when you run sudo shutdown03:59
failmasterpvl1, it won't work with rootfs device, but anyway, thank you for your attention!03:59
pvl1failmaster: try #linux03:59
kalakjyes, it is restarting, i have tried the sudo halt03:59
kalakjpvl1: but why to issue a command, when there is GUI options available04:00
kalakja normal user will use them, instead of commands04:00
failmasterpvl1, i'm afraid that at the moment people will realize it's ubuntu - getting support from there will be hard ;)04:00
pvl1kalakj: we need to follow the yellow brick road to whats not working. so even with the command it reboots?04:01
pvl1failmaster: i doubt it, they like a challange04:01
pvl1failmaster: if theres people asking about which photo program is best... theyll appreciate this04:01
kalakjpvl1: i tried  sudo halt, let me try sudo shutdown and tell you the results, i will be back in few minutes.04:01
failmasterdeal04:02
pvl1kalakj: ill be here04:02
kalakjbecause network will disconnect and it will take time to reconnect04:02
ScootaLewisso uh...hi?04:11
ScootaLewisso, um04:12
ScootaLewisi installed ubuntu today04:12
ScootaLewis13.0404:12
ScootaLewisfirst time using a linux distro04:12
ScootaLewisand i have some questions about a thing called fglrx?04:13
ScootaLewisi have a radeon hd 6450 integrated graphics card so i was wondering what the optimal drivers would be for playing a game such as team fortress 204:14
ScootaLewisanybody here, uh...know about that?04:15
kalakjpvl1: it again rebooted04:15
kalakji tried sudo shutdown -h now04:15
kalakjpvl1: are you there04:15
ScootaLewisi was referred here by someone called benzrf04:16
ScootaLewishe said i might be able to find help04:16
ScootaLewiso_o04:16
kalakjScootalLewis: :D04:16
ScootaLewisso yeah if there's any team fortress 2 players who play on ubuntu i'd like to talk04:17
kalakjScootaLewis: no, i am not a gaming player.04:18
ScootaLewisdang.04:18
junktextHi ScootaLewis, I play TF2 every so often, but I don't use an ATI card.04:18
ScootaLewisseems like you're the only one around too04:18
ScootaLewisoh hey04:18
kalakjpvl1: HELLp04:18
junktextI am not familiar with the fglrx aspect, but I did find this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fglrx04:19
ScootaLewisokay, quick question04:19
junktextHelps explain the driver a little.04:19
ScootaLewishave you tried using any custom things in tf2?04:19
junktextI only casually play TF2 to be honest.  I still prefer TFC :-).04:19
ScootaLewisah04:20
failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?04:20
ScootaLewis...that sounds like my cue to leave04:20
pvl1kalakj: whats wrong04:20
kalakjpvl1: system reboots again, instead of shutdown, i tried sudo shutdown -h now04:21
pvl1kalakj: and it reboot again04:21
pvl1kalakj: lemme think04:21
kalakjyes04:21
pvl1aw failmaster i was gonna help him04:21
failmasterwat?04:21
pvl1scootalewis i think04:22
pvl1oh wait no not him04:22
pvl1junktext: u asking about ati04:22
junktextNo, that was ScootaLewis.04:23
pvl1oh04:25
pvl1nvm failmaster, carry on04:25
nurowIs there any site that lists Ubuntu compatibility with specific laptops?04:26
pvl1nurow: hardware rather than laptops. somewhere. i cant remember04:26
failmasternurow, most of such lists are very outdated so it's nearly impossible to find in there some modern laptop you consider as a candidate on buying04:27
pvl1kalakj: have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown/135568#13556804:27
junktextnurow: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ and also look at Zareason and System76 laptops, among other Linux-built laptops.04:27
failmasternurow, http://www.linlap.com and such and so on according to google resulsts http://linuxhcl.com04:28
failmasterjunktext, can i order those things in russia?04:28
nurowjunktext, I actually bought a System76 Bonobo Extreme 7, but the clickpad has no driver, the brightness control does not work, and the headphone jack does not work04:29
nurowI'm actually furious that they claim that these are Ubuntu certified laptops, when they are really just reselling Clevo and have not even written the necessary drivers for the laptops devices.04:29
failmasternvm04:29
junktextnurow, hmm odd.  Did they offer you a replacement?  I've never used a System76 build, but I hear from reviews that many like them.04:30
kalakjpvl1: yes i tried this, already04:30
kalakjbut it was mentioned in another post04:30
kalakjstill no success04:30
nurowtheir support has also been really horrible, with lots of response like "if we figure it out we'll let you know"04:30
junktextfailmaster: I'm not sure about the Russian question.04:30
wilee-nileenurow, Sytem 76 has an area on the ubuntu forums, might you talk with them?04:30
failmasterjunktext, nevermind04:30
nurowyeah I've posted there Wilee-nilee. Lots of others with the same issues.04:31
pvl1kalakj: i would try to apt-get purge grub-common grub-pc-bin04:31
pvl1or whatever theyre called04:31
pvl1kalakj: DO NOT REBOOT04:31
pvl1then04:31
pvl1kalakj: reinstall grub, and try that fix04:31
junktextnurow: I would imagine they would provide you a replacement.  How long have you had your Bonobo?04:31
pvl1sleepytime04:31
nurowSystem76 wants me to mail the laptop back to them, but that will mean I have to go two weeks without a computer..04:31
pvl1gnight04:31
junktextAh, I see.  Sorry it's a pain, I understand.04:32
nurowjunktext, the problem is that the new bonx7 line is missing critical drivers, and even the bonx6 never had propoer clickpad drivers after MONTHS04:32
nurowhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216322704:33
kalakjpvl1: it is also removing other softwares like remastersys04:33
kalakjand ubuquity etc04:33
kalakjshould i proceed04:33
nurowI honestly feel like we need a real Ubuntu laptop manufacturer.. not just a Clevo reseller.04:33
ax562could someone help me with this error?04:33
ax562E: samba-common: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 104:34
ax562E: samba-common-bin: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured04:34
ax562E: libsmbclient-dev: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured04:34
kalakji also have installed SUPER BOOT MANAGER, BURG04:34
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ax562I tried installing a wipe program and it didn't install correctly.  When I tried to uninstall that error occured04:36
junktextWell, I'm sure the System76 folks will fix the issue soon according to that thread.  At least they are trying, but I know that it has to be frustrating for the users to wait.04:39
kalakjpvl1: thanks for your time04:39
kalakji have to go04:39
kalakji will try to solve it some other day04:39
junktextBut, I agree.  The more Linux hardware distros, the better.04:40
kalakjso far, have a nice day04:40
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failmasteris there some service i could buy subscription from to get support for ubuntu or linux related technical problems in general?04:46
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dr_williscaonical sells support - i thought ;)04:49
dr_willisno idea what  'support' really means in that case however04:49
MonkWitDaFunkIC3, the internet core computing certifcate is easy of you can do the microsoft digital literacy exam which is free to take04:50
ax562dr_willis, could you help with my problem?04:50
alfreddbai installed mmonit.. ubuntu 12.04..when a start service...its telling mmonit: unrecognized service..pls guide me ..04:51
MonkWitDaFunkYou can take the exam online and print out your certification yoursrlf. I got 92% on it04:51
dr_willisax562:  with any apt issues. you should pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and the actual apt-get install whatever command   outputs04:51
failmasternp i just had to ask, thanks!04:51
dr_willisax562:  i rarely have to work on apt issues.04:51
dr_willisalfreddba:  how are you starting the service?04:51
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wilee-nilee!info mmonit04:52
alfreddbadr_willis: service mmonit start04:52
ubottuPackage mmonit does not exist in raring04:52
dr_willisalfreddba:  are you sure the service name is mmonit?    use the TAB key to complete the proper service name (or see a list of services)04:52
dr_willisalfreddba:  and you would need a sudo at the start  of the command i imagine04:53
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dr_willis!find mmonit04:53
ubottuFile mmonit found in glpi, kde-workspace-dbg, kdepimlibs5-dev, openclipart2-png, openclipart2-svg, openjdk-6-demo, openjdk-7-demo, plasma-dataengines-workspace, python-kde4-dev, trac-spamfilter04:53
alfreddbadr_willis: if i use sudo its starting..its default port no 8080...when am open in browser..the page unable to load..pls guide me..04:54
dr_willisalfreddba:  ive never even heard of mmonit befor..   so it started.. but not working.. check its configs and logs to determine why its not working.04:55
dr_willisand its homepage and hopefullyy its install/trouble shooting docs04:55
alfreddbadr_willis: am getting this error..Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to localhost:808004:55
dr_willisalfreddba:  so its not running on that port.  aparently04:56
dr_willisor not running at all04:56
HAWieseMoin, moin!04:56
HAWieseMoin, moin!04:56
alfreddbadr_willis: how to solve...pls help me..i googled but not solved..04:57
dr_willisalfreddba:  i dont have any magical answers.. ive never heard of the service or tool befor. so how should i know.    common trouble shooting  methodology.. CHECK THE LOGS for the service. have  its configs enable verbose logging and check the logs...  check its homepage and forums for  trouble shooting tips04:58
* dr_willis has no idea what mmonit even does.04:58
alfreddbammonit used to monit services,04:59
dr_willismany services can start in a non-deamon mode - so their error messages and logs can go to the standard console04:59
dr_willisa service to service services....04:59
dr_willismy first guess would be you have it missconfigured.  so its not starting. or  its starting but you are using the wrong ip/port combo05:00
dr_willisthe service command can show what services are running.05:00
alfreddbadr_willis:  ichecked the log...Required <License> element not found...05:01
dr_willisalfreddba:  means very little to me.. check the mmonit homepage and hopefully its forums or faq will shed some light on it.05:01
alfreddbadr_willis: thanks..05:02
guddamzhello to everyone..05:02
dr_willismoo!05:02
lucidiumIs it possible to downgrade ubuntu so I can use the fglrx 9.3 drivers?05:03
guddamzI'm trying to calibrate my webcam. there is an error saying about shared-color-targets.. need help05:03
dr_willislucidium:  its more likelyu it will just break badly05:03
dr_willislucidium:  you could try the older .run package to get the older drivers.. but that would be risky also05:04
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CyraxWho was it who wanted this md5sum? me the one who had problem to run ubuntu05:06
xmetalback05:06
wilee-nileeCyrax, I suggested you run it, you would check if the ISO is equal.05:06
Cyraxno.. i mean.. i have this in a txt file05:07
dr_willisCyrax:  you calculate the md5sum of a file you download. and compare it to whats in the txt file (that contains the original sum) and make sure the 2 are equil05:07
ubnoobtuive seen those05:07
CyraxWhere do i compare it?05:07
dr_willismd5sum command has an option/feature i recall to read the txt file : or just LOOK at both numbers05:08
dr_willisread the txt file.. look at the sum it gives.   look at the calculated sum05:08
wilee-nileeCyrax, YOu still have the link the bot gave?05:08
Cyraxidk.. i fell asleep so i forgot.. sorry. besides it confuse me the whole md5sum thing.. have no clue what it is,how to do it05:09
dr_willismd5sum testfile   -> prints out a  huge number..05:09
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dr_willisthe md5sum.txt file from your download site willl have a 'testfile   originalsum#####' you look at and compare the 205:09
CyraxCompare sure i can.. but how when idk what to look for.. no idea about md5sum05:10
dr_williswhat to look for? if you got the calculated sum. and the sum from the file.. you just look and se eif the 2 numbers are the same05:10
Cyraxbesudes i only have 1 md5sum.txt file05:11
Cyrax*besides05:11
dr_willisCyrax:  so look IN the file.. and find the sum for whatever file you are interested in05:11
dr_williswhat is the file name you are  wanting to sum?05:11
junktextAn MD5 is like a file's fingerprint.  If you have a corrupt/malicious file, you can compare a known good MD5 to a file by running "md5sum <file>" in a shell.  If the output of md5sum differs from the known good MD5 file, you have a problem.05:11
Cyraxdr_willis: here is what the md5sum look like: http://pastebin.com/DzB4QaE705:13
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M4yh3mhi i had an awful issue with ubuntu last night.. after installing it and rebooted my computer it got frozend at the bios just after detecting my hard drive, i couldn't enter the bios or do anything else.05:13
dr_willisCyrax:  you dont need to sum EVERY FILE.. just the one you are interested in05:13
M4yh3mdoes any one have any information regarding this issue?05:14
Cyraxtold u i have no idea.. thats y i gave u that05:14
junktextFor example if you have a text file and all it says is "Hi", and then you run and md5sum on that, then you change the text to "Hi?", then run md5sum again.  You'll see two different MD5 values.05:14
dr_willisif the file name is 'foo.iso'  you would 'md5sum foo.iso'   then look  in your md5sum.txt file for a line with 'foo.iso' in it that lists its sum05:14
dr_willisits not very complex at all.05:14
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, Black screen, blinking cursor? "it got frozend at the bios just after detecting my hard drive" is rather vague05:15
M4yh3mwilee-nilee just stopped after detecting my hard drives05:15
dr_willisyou wnt to check the md5sum of the ISO file after you download it and verifyu its good.. befor  you burn it or put it on usb05:15
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, screen black?05:15
M4yh3mnot black screen or blinking cursor just that.. just stopped there05:16
CyraxSorry.. but i can't underdstand it.05:16
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, What release?05:16
M4yh3m13.0405:16
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M4yh3mit's very strange i had linux mint before but i wanted to move to ubuntu05:17
M4yh3mi did the partitioning.. fine the installation gone well.. everything was fine.. just rebooted and my computer halted at the bios..05:17
netcathelp! i have format  /boot05:17
ax562where does ubuntu store it's apps?05:18
CyraxBesises like i said its my first time,so idk anything about md5sum and those05:18
netcati installed ubuntu and then install win7 ,but i can't start anyone05:18
junktextAn MD5 is a mathematical value of the overall file, which is why each MD5 value is generally unique.  Because there are so many MD5 values that can be output, and this is why it is hard to fool a tool like "md5sum" by adding a virus or doing something else to the original file without being noticed by an MD5 value.05:18
ubnoobtucan you link the help page again?05:19
netcatso i format /boot,and install a grub,when open computer show grub>05:19
junktextSo and MD5 or "md5sum" is just a quick 'smell-test' to see if the file is intact as intended.05:19
wilee-nileem4sker, Power on and immediately hold down the shift and if you see the grub boot menu hit e and navigate to this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" And change it to this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" and continue boot to see where it stops, you can also use nomodeset there to check for a missing graphic driver.05:20
CyraxAnyone knows any older version of ubuntu? cuz i can't get the newest version to work at all. i dont have any clue about this md5sum thing how to compare and all05:20
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netcatwho help me?05:21
wilee-nileeCyrax, Older than what?05:21
M4yh3mwilee-nilee i couldn't do anything :( my computer freeze completeley after detecting my hard drive.. i think it could be something with the partitioning05:21
Cyraxolder then version 12  of ubuntu05:21
junktextYou don't really need to do the md5sum if you trust the source of where you received the file, Cyrax.  The md5sum is just for the overly cautious.05:21
Cyraxversion 12 dont work for me05:21
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, So no bios flash?05:22
wilee-nileeCyrax, That is the oldest supported with a desktop.05:22
Flanneljunktext: md5sum helps check for download problems.05:22
junktextFlannel, I hear you, but the installer does that too.05:22
FlannelCyrax: If you don't want to figure out md5sum, download it via the torrent.  Bittorrent will do an integrity check for you.05:22
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M4yh3mwilee-nilee i have some skills at computers.. so certainly i can tell you.. ubuntu did something to the partition table or the MBR so my computer freeze, i can see the bios screen but it hangs after detecting my hard drive..05:23
thincedor simply type: md5sum whatever.iso05:23
netcatwho help me?05:23
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, I was not questioning your skills, best of luck. ;)05:23
M4yh3mi had to remove my drive then connect it to another computer with an usb adapter so i could wipe it with a low level format..05:24
netcati format /boot05:24
netcatand install grub,when open computer show grub>05:25
looped905:25
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, If you did a low level wipe it probably had no partition table, did you make one?05:25
netcat905:25
Cyraxwriting md5sum in terminal didnt work05:25
M4yh3mwilee-nilee yes now i have to reformat and create everything again.. but i want firs figure out what happened previously..05:26
junktextDid you just get a blank line after you typed "md5sum", Cyrax?05:26
netcathello05:26
junktextIf so, it's because you should actually type: md5sum <filename>05:27
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, Sure, sometimes this happens, with no determinable reason.05:27
Cyraxyes ofcourse.. i wrote md5sum [the name of exact file i downloaded that ended with .iso]05:27
dr_willisCyrax:  use a proper command syntax as was shown05:27
M4yh3mwilee-nilee i scare to install ubuntu :D05:27
dr_willisit will take time to calculate  the sum05:27
junktextYeah, that could be too.05:27
wilee-nileeCyrax, You have windows 8 how are you running a sum check?05:28
junktextOh, he's on Windows, huh?05:28
Cyraxyes i am05:28
wilee-nileewas earlier this is a vbox install05:28
CyraxI got windows 8 64 bit.. and running virtualbox on it05:28
junktextYeah, Windows doesn't have a default md5sum app.05:28
junktextYou can download a program though.05:29
dr_willismany burning apps calculate  the sum also05:29
junktextCyrax, which version of Ubuntu did you download?05:29
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wilee-nileeCyrax, This was the 32 bit ubuntu desktop right?05:29
TannedVampirehow do I load ubuntu to ram on startup?05:30
Cyraxno idea about that. from what i heard last time he said i was running or might running x86 (32),but it didnt work05:30
Cyrax\tbh i have no idea.. everything is confusing with all the problems trying to get it to work05:31
Cyraxhere is what i downloaded: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso05:31
wilee-nileeCyrax, Make a copy of the iso name it the same as the torrent file seen here and use a torrent to check it. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads05:31
junktextSo, have you burnt that ISO to a CD/DVD?  Did you have problems?05:32
dr_willisTannedVampire: you want to put the live cd totally into ram?05:32
wilee-nileeCyrax, This is the torrent name.  ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent05:33
TannedVampirei already installed ubuntu on my laptop, but it is too slow.05:33
dr_willisTannedVampire:  and your system specs are?05:33
TannedVampireI thought that putting all of ubuntu and applications onto RAM at startup might speed up user experience.05:34
wilee-nileeTannedVampire, Is the hardware up for the release?05:34
dr_willis!ram05:34
ubottuIf you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html05:34
TannedVampire2.7 Mb RAM 1.6 GHz AMD05:34
wilee-nileeTannedVampire, A netbook?05:35
Ben64megabytes of memory?05:35
TannedVampiremb05:35
TannedVampireI mean MB05:35
TannedVampiremegabytes05:35
Ben64no you don't05:35
TannedVampireI think it is not a netbook.05:36
dr_willislinux handles the ram better then you can. B-)05:36
TannedVampirea regular 5 year old laptop05:36
dr_willisi think you need to look again05:36
junktextTannedVampire, most computers today use GigaBytes (GB) of RAM, not the smaller MB.05:36
TannedVampireOh05:36
Ben64TannedVampire: if you're using unity, that may be causing it to be slow, i'd suggest using something like gnome-fallback or xfce05:37
TannedVampire2.7 GigaBytes05:37
TannedVampiresorry05:37
wilee-nileeTannedVampire, There are a couple of lighter desktops you can add to try xubuntu and a lighter lubuntu or their variants xfce4 and lxde05:37
TannedVampireI messed up units05:37
joshefhi05:37
dr_willisTannedVampire:  and your video card is a?05:37
M4yh3mwilee-nilee i found this bug report.. this is my problem.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-base/+bug/55196505:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 551965 in partman-base (Ubuntu Lucid) "BIOS hang - Unable to boot after installation" [High,Fix released]05:37
Ben64since he said 2.7GB of ram, it's using 256MB shared memory, so it can't be a good card05:38
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, That says 10.04 you are running 13.0405:38
failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?05:38
M4yh3mwilee-nilee i'm just trying you understand what my problem is..05:39
M4yh3mis the same issue.. but with 13.0405:39
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, I understand.05:39
TannedVampireI don't know how to get specs of video card.  I guess it isn't a good card.05:39
darkxstTannedVampire, Have a look under "details" in system settings05:40
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M4yh3mwilee-nilee i will try partition my drive previously with the live cd and gparted then use those partitions to install ubuntu05:45
wilee-nileeM4yh3m, Cool, good luck. ;)05:45
M4yh3msorry for being a pain in the a** xD i'm tired dealing with this since last night :P05:46
xmetalback again05:47
M4yh3mi thought my hard drive was death so i smashed it on the floor and took a second one.. then i tried again and got the same issue that pissed me off :P05:47
moldyhi05:47
Cyraxif this time i can't get it to work,from the link u gave,then i give up ubuntu05:47
moldyis there a way i can reinstall the base system if some important packages are gone?05:48
moldyright now, i am missing module-init-tools. i cannot install it because dpkg errors on linux-ubuntu-modules-*05:49
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M4yh3mreally ubuntu is a big deal.. every time i tried to install it had issues.. big time.05:55
M4yh3mi've installed linux mint 15 and was smoth.. just install and everything works.. just that.05:55
Myrttiok?05:56
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gr72Hello is anyone on in here?06:02
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galileolivingsto#channel06:02
gr72So I've had Ubuntu 12,04 for about a year now and installed steam, I've followed multiple links in order to get OpenGL to work and I've got that working however now the graphics aren't right. The screen jumps and such. Here is an example or two (http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-12_08_56_15-RWwuqhhB.png  http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-13_01_49_57-mrGoPwWs.png) Any one know what could possibly be my issue?06:07
gr72And the bar still funcitons at the top, however the graphics for the actual bar are on the bottom of the screen.06:08
failmastercould someone help to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?06:10
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CyraxCan anyone give me a photo how the ubuntu alternate looks like on desktop? for 12.04 version06:19
AndresSMit's just the same06:19
loopedincase anyone else finds joy in a serious (facepalm) i just had. configuration option is hash_behavio*u*r, not hash_behavior. :P06:19
AndresSMthe installer is te only difference06:19
loopedwrong channel, sorry :P06:20
Twenty-threehi guys, i cannot see the launcher in unity, i only see the desktop icons (some) and it all comes at the wrong resolution which i cannot seem to change, i purged nvidia drivers and installed again, any clues on how i could fix that and reset unity?06:21
Twenty-threealso, doing "grep -i error ~/.xsession-errors came back with a number of errors along the lines of "opengl not loaded"06:22
rigo88hi06:25
rigo88which is the latest kernel for ubuntu 12.04 lts? the 3.6.3?06:26
somsip!info linux-image-generic precise | rigo8806:27
ubotturigo88: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.51.61 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB06:27
Ben64!info linux-image-generic-lts-quantal precise | rigo88 this too06:27
ubotturigo88 this too: linux-image-generic-lts-quantal (source: linux-meta-lts-quantal): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.37.43 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 28 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)06:27
Ben64!info linux-image-generic-lts-raring precise | rigo88 maybe even06:28
ubotturigo88 maybe even: linux-image-generic-lts-raring (source: linux-meta-lts-raring): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.27.27 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)06:28
rigo88does it makes any sence to upgrade if everything works just fine?06:29
moldyrigo88: yes. you want security updates.06:30
rigo88than i give 3.8.0 a try06:31
rigo88what about 3.9.0? it is also raring.06:32
Cyraxif i installed a ubuntu 32 bit,but want 64 bit but same version.. are there any command to upgrade to same version,but 64 bit?06:32
Ben64Cyrax: no06:33
Cyraxok.. thanks06:33
matthias_androidI've got an issue with my ltsp fat client system. Who could help me pls.06:35
CyraxWhats the different between a ubuntu and ubuntu alternate? and what is different between 64 bit adn 32 bit?06:36
matthias_androidI've got an issue with my ltsp fat client system. Who could help me06:37
moldymatthias_android: try #ltsp06:38
moldymatthias_android: and describe your issue as exactly as possible06:38
matthias_androidmoldy i did so, but nobody answers me06:38
Ben64so your solution is to describe nothing?06:39
moldymatthias_android: then describe it here as well. if you get no answer, you will have to wait. or you can try an appropriate mailing list06:39
matthias_androidOk i have to turn on my computer because typing on a smartphone is really hard06:40
rigo88Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.9.0-030900-generic (x86_64)06:40
rigo88Consult /var/lib/dkms/fglrx-experimental-12/12.100/build/make.log for more information.06:41
Ben64rigo88: are you trying to break your system? :S06:41
auronandacerigo88: we cannot support kernels that are not in the repos06:41
xmetalhmm to have someone answer it helps to actually ask the question06:41
Cyraxu know what.. I give up on ubuntu.. every time i try,i can't get the ubuntu to work.. this is annoying06:41
rigo88ive downloaded from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/06:41
Ben64Cyrax: just ask a question here and you usually can get an answer06:41
Ben64rigo88: yeah, we can't support stuff from there06:41
auronandacerigo88: ppas are unsupported here06:42
Cyraxi did ask,but all i got was to check md5sum wich i have no idea how to check..06:42
Cyraxthe only way for me to get ubuntu to work is to install a older version of ubuntu.. older then version 1206:42
Ben64Cyrax: i didn't see you ask, but you can use "md5sum"06:43
failmastercould someone help please to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?06:43
Cyraxi did ask.. and i tried everything for a whole day.. nothing work.. i really don't know what to do06:43
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CyraxI know now ubuntu version 12 doesn't work06:46
auronandaceCyrax: there is no 12, its either 12.04 or 12.1006:46
Cyraxthere is a version 12.. thats the one I installed on virtual box06:47
Cyraxu know what i ment06:47
Cyraxi ment 12.04.. but it doesnt work anyway06:47
Ben6412.04 works fine, i'm on it right now06:48
Ben64if you want to get it working, start asking questions, this channel is not for rants06:48
Cyraxthen why can't i get it to work? i run ubuntu .. well did on virtual box06:48
CyraxI did ask O.o06:48
auronandaceCyrax: start with telling us your computer specs06:48
matthias_moldy: My Server is an Ubuntu 12.04 Lts 64-bit. In my network i've got an dhcp router which i can not modify for network booting. so  i set up an dnsmasq server on my ubnuntu server. First i wanted to build thin client images and boot them over network and everything went well: got an ip from my router and booted up from the servers image. but now i want to set up fat clients, because the clients hardware is very good. the clients are 64-06:49
Cyraxmy computer is completely new..06:49
Cyraxwindows 8 64 bit,8GB ram06:49
Cyraxthats all i know06:49
auronandace!uefi | Cyrax06:49
ubottuCyrax: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI06:49
Ben64auronandace: doesn't matter for vbox06:50
mar77imeh... I modified that file in /usr/share/applications and now it seems it's not displayed in unity any more... which is kind of illogic06:50
auronandaceBen64: i thought he wanted a hardware install (as in he's done virtualbox and wanted more)06:51
mar77iwhat is the setting by which unity/alacarte searches stuff?06:51
matthias_moldy: I'm matthias_android on my computer.06:51
mar77iis it enough for stuff to be in /usr/share/applications?06:51
CyraxI have tried since early today try get ubuntu 12.04 to work.. i even tried the version 13 and 11 or what version is called.. none got me into the desktop of ubuntu.. only version that got me in was version 9 of ubuntu06:51
Ben64auronandace: hard to tell i guess, he's not really providing any info06:51
auronandaceBen64: very true06:52
CyraxIts my first time using ubuntu..06:52
auronandaceCyrax: what are you trying to install ubuntu on? a vm (vbox)? an actual install on the hardware?06:52
CyraxVM (vbox)06:53
matthias_here's a screenshoot of my issue: http://imgur.com/WrYapal06:53
auronandaceCyrax: have you used virtualbox before?06:53
CyraxLong long Looooooong time ago.. but i forgot all about it06:54
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auronandaceCyrax: what specs are you giving the vm?06:54
Cyraxidk.. i only make a virtual drive,then install ubuntu on it06:55
moldymatthias_: you have not described your actual problem yet -- where are you stuck?06:55
auronandaceCyrax: you should know, you made the vm06:55
lacy20good afternoon06:56
matthias_moldy: have you seen my screenshoot? my clients load everything until they configure the eth0 and get a new ip adress and then they stop and fall into busybox06:56
auronandaceCyrax: how much ram and diskspace did you give it?06:57
Cyraxif u give me a min,i check once I made virtual drive once again06:57
moldymatthias_: something is wrong in your client image. apparently something related to nbd06:58
CyraxOn Memory Size I always made it to 1204MB.. after awhile i gave it 2000MB.. the other one i had it on 8GB06:59
Cyrax*1024MB06:59
moldymatthias_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP#Failure:_Insufficient_Information_to_set_up_nbd.2C_quitting06:59
auronandaceCyrax: 2048mb should be enough06:59
Cyraxwell.. either way.. i cna't get it to work.. i try again07:00
auronandaceCyrax: if your hardware has 8gb then i doubt you could set up a vm that uses 8gb ram07:00
Coburnyou can give a VM 8GB07:01
Coburnyou'll just be swapping like hell07:01
Coburnhow can I have a onscreen keyboard on the unlock prompt?07:01
CoburnI don't have keyboard on this tablet07:01
CyraxSo what should i put it on? what GB?. i had it on default 8GB07:01
CoburnCyrax: half your available ram at the most07:02
Coburnfor example, use 8GB? then 4GB07:02
auronandaceCyrax: are you sure you are referring to ram?07:02
CyraxNo idea07:02
Cyraxlet me check07:02
auronandaceCyrax: if 8gb is the default i sincerely doubt thats the default setting for a ubuntu vm07:02
CyraxFile and location size is at the default 8GB .. the memory size i gave it 204807:03
Cyrax*2048MB07:03
auronandaceCyrax: memory is ram07:03
auronandaceCyrax: the default 8gb you are referring to is the size of the disk you are giving it07:03
Cyraxso give it like 4000MB?07:04
failmastercould someone help please to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?07:04
auronandaceCyrax: i'd use 10gb for the harddisk at least07:04
CyraxMax memory size I can choose is 8192, MAx file and location size I can choose is 2TB07:06
auronandaceCyrax: you don't want either that high07:06
Cyraxi know07:06
matthias_moldy: thanks what i did was to add an option that was not for 12.04 but it works now07:06
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auronandaceCyrax: 2gb ram, 10gb harddrive is enough07:06
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Cyraxauronandace: so what shall i do now after choosing harddrive and ram? i only need to find how to make ubuntu work.. idk how to explain it07:09
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auronandaceCyrax: go to the settings of your vm and make sure the storage section has the iso you downloaded in it so you can install07:10
gsommerI've used apt to install the source for a package. I've fiddled with some changes, and - I would like to build a package WITHOUT commiting the code first (As I'm not sure this is the final patch). How do I do that? Or, how do I at-least test the code before commiting ?07:10
Cyraxthe ubuntu i choosed is in the "Storage"07:11
auronandaceCyrax: then boot the vm07:12
Cyraxok i did eboot.. but i know i will b in the terminal only07:13
Cyrax*reboot07:13
auronandaceCyrax: under display settings tick enable 3d accelleration and set the video ram to max07:15
CyraxVideo memory has a max of 128MB07:19
rjknight1hello guys, how we make our ubuntu server router as router mode not as gateway?07:19
matthias_my fat client don't have internet connection07:19
borisetoHi, can somebody help me restore the Intel graphic driver and remove the AMD one?07:20
alnewkirkI want a slingshot-like launcher for ubuntu-classic gnome207:20
CyraxSo i maxed it to 128MB on video memory and ticked the box enable 3D acceleration07:20
auronandaceCyrax: good07:20
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CyraxAnything else i should do in the setting before i continue?07:21
auronandaceCyrax: nothing i can think of07:21
CyraxWhat about monitor count?07:21
auronandaceCyrax: i never alter that07:21
CyraxWhat about the options under Network?07:22
auronandaceCyrax: the defaults there have always worked fine07:22
Cyraxok.. i try and see now07:22
Cyraxauronandace: is this anything that should b fixed? http://puu.sh/40QkR.png07:24
auronandaceCyrax: you can't do anything about that, just ignore it07:25
auronandaceCyrax: actually, can you show me a full screenshot of the vm please07:25
Cyraxit has a box to tick or not.. if i want to download updates under installation of ubuntu.. tick or not?07:26
auronandaceCyrax: you are at the installer?07:26
Cyraxbefore i continue,it has a option to tick if I want to download updates under the isntallation07:27
Cyrax*installation07:27
auronandaceCyrax: you are at the installer?07:27
Cyraxanyway.. here is what my vm looks like: http://puu.sh/40Qpy.png07:27
auronandaceCyrax: i didn't want that creen, i wanted a screenshot of the actual vm running07:28
Cyraxoh.. what if I made a small video while I do it.. woudl that help?07:28
Cyrax*would07:28
auronandaceCyrax: just a screenshot please07:29
ejvNeed help installing mysql on 12.04 LTS, this is embarassing that this is even happening frankly... : http://dpaste.com/1341424/07:29
Cyraxsure07:29
auronandaceejv: in case nobody answers here there is also #ubuntu-server07:30
Cyraxauronandace: http://puu.sh/40Qzc.jpg07:32
auronandaceCyrax: so you are at the installer, everything seems to be working fine, i wanted a screenshot showing the little indicators on the bottom07:33
Cyraxauronandace: http://puu.sh/40QCc.jpg07:34
ejvthanks auronandace07:34
ejvthis is... just... incredible that an update could trash people's db's like this lol07:35
auronandaceCyrax: thanks, as i thought, you see that v? that means your processor hasn't been enabled for virtualisation. you need to do that from the bios or however you do it via windows 807:35
anonymous666can someone plz help07:35
anonymous666someone help07:35
anonymous666i need halp07:36
Cyraxdo it on my actually computer windows 8? in bios?07:36
auronandaceCyrax: it is normally in the bios07:36
anonymous666m8 help i need urgent help on my ubntu machin07:36
Cyraxi dont touch anything that might ruin my computer07:37
anonymous666fck your issus i hve prblms of my own07:37
auronandaceCyrax: it won't ruin anything, it enables virtualisation support07:37
anonymous666nbody cares.07:37
anonymous666i need more help07:37
Cyraxi dont even know how, auronandace07:38
auronandaceCyrax: some vms require it, without it things can get rather slow (not good performance)07:38
auronandaceCyrax: you need to find out then07:38
CyraxCant I sue another vm that dont require it?07:38
Cyrax*use07:38
auronandaceCyrax: ubuntu doesn't require it but it is certainly better to have it enabled07:39
Cyraxi dont want to touch bios07:39
auronandaceCyrax: in that case you won't get the best performance from your vm07:40
Cyraxi used vm before and I never touched the bios before.. and it went fine at that time07:40
auronandaceCyrax: it can be better than fine but thats up to you07:41
auronandaceCyrax: i don't really see the point in not enabling it, if your processor supports it then why not have it on?07:42
CyraxCuz I dont want to risk in any chance to touch bios and it might ruin my computer.. i'm very careful touching things that IK think might ruin my computer07:42
ikoniaCyrax: it's an option that says "enabling virtuization support" or "enable VT support" - words to that effect, set it, or don't, it's up to you07:43
auronandaceCyrax: if you are very careful then you will understand exactly what you are doing, its just one setting that makes your cpu better suited to virtualisation (nothing can go wrong)07:43
CyraxSo where do i change it? idk how07:44
ikoniaCyrax: you look in your bios and change the setting from "no" to "yes"07:44
Cyraxi'll check it.. be back soon07:46
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Cyraxback.. and i checked bios.. can't see any option there07:53
CyraxNot that kind of option07:54
ikoniaCyrax: maybe worth talking to the vendor about it07:54
ikoniaCyrax: asking them to confirm the right setting07:54
Cyraxits easier not to use ubuntu.. too bad i wanted to try ubuntu adn now ubuntu won't work for me07:54
ikoniaunlucky then07:55
auronandaceCyrax: what do you mean it won't work? you were at the install screen07:55
Cyraxyes.. but i dont want only terminal07:55
ikoniaCyrax: is it still dropping to the terminal rather than starting X07:55
Cyraxi only get terminal.. thats all.. its jsut lime cmd07:55
auronandaceCyrax: is that after installing?07:56
Cyraxyes07:56
ikoniaCyrax: and we discussed this earlier, you need to check why X is not starting07:56
ikoniasomeone was helping you go through the error log earlier07:56
CyraxSomeone said something about Xorg07:56
ikoniayes, I told you X org was not starting, and someone was telling you how to look at the log07:56
Cyraxbut it confused me07:56
ikoniaCyrax: yes, the error was the vboxvideo module was not being loaded as I recall07:57
ikoniait was looking for the device /dev/dri/card007:57
coresnakehi there, can anyone tell me if theres a way to login to launchpad with the username i used, not the email?07:58
ikoniaCyrax:  you need to make sure you have enough video memory set in your virtual machine07:58
coresnakei cant remember the email and im trying to deactivate the account, i contacted support but they wouldnt help me07:58
ikoniacoresnake: username = email07:58
Cyraxi did try sudo apt-get or whatever it is called and wrote update with it07:58
coresnakehmm07:58
coresnakebut its only the first part of the email07:59
ikoniaCyrax: in virtual box make sure you set video to have 128mb (256mb if possible) of ram07:59
Cyraxi did max it07:59
Cyraxlet me try it again07:59
ikoniaCyrax: what is it set to07:59
failmastercould someone help please to shed some light on why this configuration stopped working with freshly installed 13.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization especially curious if we have /boot accessible at it's absolute path on corresponding to cryptsetup boot stage?07:59
CyraxI was told to set Memory size to 2048 and file adn locaction size to 10GB08:00
ffiois it a good idea to have ldap and kerberos based authentication for NFS and samba for home use ?08:00
ikoniaCyrax: no, not memory, VIDEO CARD memory08:00
ikoniaCyrax: you also need to make sure you have the virtualbox guest extension installed on the host08:00
Cyraxi know.. but i have to set that first the Memory size and stuff ebfore i change the videomemory08:01
ikoniaCyrax: right, so set the video card memory, make sure you have the guest additions package installed on the host08:01
CyraxNow I maxed video memory to 128 wich is max,memory size to 2048MB,file and location size to 10GB08:03
Cyraxand tick the box Enable 3D acceleration08:03
CyraxThats correct,isnt it? all that?08:04
t-mohello,  am I in the right place for some advice on ubuntu?08:05
DJonest-mo: You certainly are08:05
ikoniaCyrax: is the guest extensions package installed on the host08:05
Cyraxidk.. how i check it?08:05
CyraxWait08:06
Cyraxu mean install it from terminal?08:06
ikoniano...08:06
Cyraxthen idk how to check it08:06
ikoniaCyrax: have you actually read how to set virtualbox up on windows 8 ?08:06
Cyraxno.. i just installed virtualbox08:06
ejvi know how to set it up on win8, next, next, next, finish. :D08:06
ikoniaCyrax: right, I suggest you actually read up how to set the host up, use ##windows and #virtualbox channels for windows and virtualbox help08:07
CyraxHow come I need that much jsut for ubuntu.. before i didnt even needed that much.. not that I can remember08:08
ikoniaCyrax: because it has hardware requirements08:08
CyraxWhere can i get that guest extansion pack?08:09
ikoniaCyrax: as I've just told you READ how to setup virtualbox on windows 8 - use the ##windows channel for windows help and #vbox for virtualbox help08:09
t-moGood news.  I have the following issue which I have tried to find a guide or solution for in forums etc. without success.  I have successfully installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an intel iMac that was running OSX 10.6.8  I overwrote the old OSX and now it is a pure Ubuntu machine.  I need to be able to boot this iMac into OSX again with a view to making it triple bootable (Win7, Ubuntu and OSX)  There is m08:11
ikoniat-mo: you need to delete ubuntu and install macos X first08:11
ejvserious question, what is a guest extension pack? :)08:11
santhoshhai  pls tell me how to installtion og ubuntu using lvm concept08:11
DJonest-mo: Your last message was cut off  at "There is m"08:11
ejvi thought vbot packaged everything together in one nice build...08:11
ejvvbox*08:11
ikoniaejv: it allows the guests to interact with the host hardware directly, ad some extra features,08:11
blazemore!lvm | santhosh08:11
ubottusanthosh: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto08:11
t-moI am quite clear on how to do this from OSX or Win7 but clueless about how to get osx back un my imac08:12
santhoshokj08:12
ejvyea i thought it did that by default, for example my i7 has intel VT-d; i hope it would simply "know" to take advantage of it, maybe i should take another look08:12
ikoniat-mo: you put the OSX disk in the mac, and boot from it and then install08:12
ikoniat-mo: the guys in ##macosX can help walk you through the install08:12
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ikoniat-mo: sorry #macosx is the channel08:13
t-mois there a trick to getting Ubuntu to recognise the osx install disk?  I did try this path first, but ubuntu seems to ignore the dvd drive08:13
santhoshwhen i install ubuntu i get no lvms and np pvs how to nextend root and home size08:13
ikoniat-mo: it's nothing to do with ubuntu08:14
ikoniat-mo: you don't have ubuntu booted at that time08:14
ikoniat-mo: you hold down (I think) the letter C at boot time to get it to boot from cdrom08:14
ikoniat-mo: then you can install macos X - the guys in #macosx will explain in clearer detail08:14
t-mosorry, but if i want to boot from cd in osx, I hold down a certain key combo.  is there something similar here?08:14
ikoniat-mo: this is nothing to do with the OS08:15
santhoshwhen i install ubuntu i get no lvms and np pvs how to nextend root and home size08:15
ikoniat-mo: you hold down the keys BEFORE the OS boots08:15
ikoniasanthosh: is your root on an LVM device ?08:15
santhoshno it is in pv partition08:15
ikoniasanthosh: so you need to install it using LVM08:16
santhoshi don't know that one how to install lvm using root and home is there ant tools08:16
ikonia!lvm08:16
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto08:16
t-moikonia:  getting ubuntu to recognise a cd/dvd seems germane to ubuntu, no?08:16
ikoniat-mo: you boot a cd BEFORE the OS, so ubuntu isn't even booted at that point, it's nothing to do with ubuntu08:17
gsommerI've used apt to install the source for a package. I've fiddled with some changes, and - I would like to build a package WITHOUT commiting the code first (As I'm not sure this is the final patch). How do I do that? Or, how do I at-least test the code before commiting ?08:17
ikoniat-mo: you are trying to re-install macos X correct ?08:17
ikoniagsommer: commit it to where ?08:17
gsommerikonia: To the local source tree08:18
ikoniagsommer: what local source tree ?08:18
caodepalhaI everyone can i get some help with the jack configuration?08:18
ikoniagsommer: you download the source - change it, build it08:18
blazemorecaodepalha: Try asking in #ubuntu-studio08:18
caodepalhaok. i never get replys there but i'll try :/08:19
gsommerikonia: No, you use apt to get the source for the deb package. You make changes. You commit changes to the package structure. You compile and package it as a .deb package.08:19
ikoniagsommer: yes ? and....08:19
blazemorecaodepalha: Also, if you ask a more specific question you might get a reply08:19
gsommerWhat I would like to do, is to TEST my changes, before commiting to the local changelog - how do I do that?08:19
ikoniagsommer: there is no "commit"08:19
ikoniagsommer: the source is just text files08:19
ikoniagsommer: so you have to make changes to those text files08:19
gsommerikonia: Yes there is... Read the documentation regarding .deb packages..08:20
ikoniagsommer: ha ha ha ha, no there really isn't08:20
t-moikonia, your advice "you put the OSX disk in the mac, and boot from it and then install" would be more helpful if you could explain how to boot from said disk08:20
gsommerikonia: Go read: http://pascal.nextrem.ch/2010/05/06/build-ubuntudebian-packages-from-source-and-apply-a-patch/08:20
blazemoregsommer: Sorry I think you're misunderstanding something08:20
gsommerblazemore: read: http://pascal.nextrem.ch/2010/05/06/build-ubuntudebian-packages-from-source-and-apply-a-patch/08:20
ikoniagsommer: I'm well aware of how to do it08:20
blazemoret-mo: That's a hardware issue really. I don't know how you boot your computer from a CD, and it's certainly nothing to do with ubuntu08:20
ikoniat-mo: as I've said the guys in #macosx can tell you the correct sequence to boot a cD08:20
ejvi don't read anything that ends in .ch, scary ^_^08:20
gsommerikonia: Ok, then what does dpkg-source --commit do? It's _NEEDED_ before you can do a dpkg-buildpackage08:21
caodepalhaI just need to know what values to put in the jack setup so i can get sound from my guitar08:21
ActionParsnipgsommer: all I can find is building binaries from deb source packages :(08:21
ikoniagsommer: I don't think you understand the process yet08:21
t-mook thank you08:21
ActionParsnipgsommer: you could download the source deb again, extract it to a location and compare the 2, if the file is different you could archive it08:21
gsommerikonia: Uhhm, to be honest - I'm quire sure you don't have a clue...08:21
blazemoregsommer: Sorry but you're wrong here08:22
sargenntoHello all. I am having problems installing proprietary video drivers. If I run lspci command it tells me I have 'ATI Device 9900'. So I should be able to use the fgrlx drivers correct? When I reboot it tells me a screen cannot be found and Xserver will not start? Any clue?08:22
ikoniagsommer: no problem then, I'll leave you to wander blind08:22
gsommerblazemore: Ok, explain the procedure then08:22
blazemoregsommer: Build the software using ./configure; make or whatever08:22
ActionParsnipsargennto: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a       please use a pastebin to hold the text.08:22
gsommerikonia: Explain "dpkg-source --commit" please - which is needed before packing it up08:22
ikoniagsommer: I don't have a clue, just carry on08:23
gsommerblazemore: No, not if you want to use the specifik ubuntu/debian packages. You need to use the builtin compiling routines08:23
blazemore:308:23
ikoniayou've told me I don't have a clue.08:23
gsommerI want to use dpkg-buildpackage to build my testing debian package, but - I do not want my changes in my local changelog, as it might not be the final changes. How do I do that ?08:24
blazemoredpkg-buildpackage08:24
ikoniagsommer: is this on ubuntu or debian ?08:24
gsommerblazemore: Yes, that requires you to commit your changes BEFORE packing it up08:24
gsommerikonia: Ubuntu08:24
ikoniaperfect.08:25
gsommerI need to test my changes on another machine - therefor packing it up as a .deb package is the easiest way.08:25
gsommerIt's quite easy with dpkg-buildpackage - which ensures the Ubuntu specific compiling routines are used. And the package is made in the exact same way as the original.08:26
gsommerBut - if changes are made to the tree (local), dpkg-source --commit is needed to correctly adjust the buildin changelog in the .deb packages - and to split up a patch compared to the original provided source.08:27
sargenntoActionParsnip:  http://pastebin.com/sdLb8v9H08:27
gsommerNow, I would like to skip the part about adding a entry in the changelog - and just go ahead and build a non-version controlled .deb package.08:27
gsommerHow do I do that ?08:27
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gsommerI basecly want to-write https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2012-August/msg06922.html as it's done in a wrong one-way binding... But, a little testing might be needed...08:28
ActionParsnipsargennto: so its an ATI Radeon 9900 ?08:30
ActionParsnipsargennto: do you know what ATI GPU it is?08:32
ejvgsommer: i'd make a post on ubuntuforums personally08:33
ejvprobably have better luck there, as it's sorta development related08:33
gsommerejv: Yeah, you might be right... There's a lot of documentation about creating new packages. But, the documentation I've found regarding making changes to existing package - required the changes to be 100% correct the first time... The documentation lacks a section regarding just testing changes... :/08:35
alfreddbacurrently am using monit to monitoring remote server...now i want a centralized tool to monit all remote maschines...so which one i have to prefer...pls give some guidance..08:35
f4cl3yhello guys.08:37
nic797Hellooo08:37
nic797Fadi N.H Abu Snaineh08:38
f4cl3yI jsut have one silly question, is there a way to set the boot order for libvirt from virsh  "not using virt-manager"08:38
f4cl3y:D08:38
nic797You don like privacy? :D08:38
blazemore!ot > nic79708:38
ubottunic797, please see my private message08:38
sargenntookay iim back. got dc/d08:39
sargenntoActionParsnip:  I think a problem could be that lspci says I have a different video card than I actually do08:39
f4cl3yanyone?08:39
f4cl3ynic797: "You don like privacy?", what do you mean?08:40
ActionParsnipsargennto: lspci reads the chips, so it is right08:40
ActionParsnipnic797: do you have an Ubuntu support question?08:41
nic797ActionParsnip: No08:41
nic797f4cl3y: You filled out your real name in your IRC client08:41
sargenntoActionParsnip:  okay my bad. It just said its a AMD 9900 device and my laptop documentation says its a Radeon HD 7660g08:42
f4cl3ynic797: I will conceal it next time ;)08:42
vltHello. I know how to configure "normal" ethernet devices (or something like usb0) in /etc/network/interfaces. Now I have a laptop with a wlan0 device I want to use. How to configure SSID, WPA2 mode and key?08:42
blazemoreYou can use network manager, vlt08:43
Cyraxikonia: Did u mention to check something in bios?`08:43
Cyraxand enable it?08:43
vltblazemore: no X server here. Is there a CLI tool?08:44
CyraxOr who mentioned to me about checking bios and enable something?08:45
sahilwhat is the latest stable kernal for ubuntu 12.04?08:47
Cyraxikonia: it was u who mentioned about something in the bios and enable something? i forgot08:48
auronandaceCyrax: virtualisation support08:49
sahil?08:50
cai__?08:50
Cyraxwell.. i think i found it,but i have to know if its correct.. I checked bios by pressing F2.. and under Advanced->CPU configuration i saw something called Intel Virtualization Technology08:50
Cyraxit says disabled on it.. i try enable it adn see08:52
ddsschey I'm copying files to a usb stick and afeter a while my system just decides the files on the stick are read only and I can't change permission or do anything with them. so I have to replug the stick to be able to copy files again. help08:52
ddssceverything works fine up until that point..08:53
auronandaceCyrax: that is the one08:53
Cyraxalright.. i try it.. b back soon again08:54
failmastertried to get subscription for support but canonical says i should wait for 5 days until they will get in touch lol so just curious if i missed something trying to get support for cash or it's like it should be?08:54
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sahilis linux kernal 3.9 "safe" for ubuntu 12.04 LTS?08:56
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sahili mean free from regression and other compatibility issues08:57
auronandacesahil: the only supported kernels are those available in the default repos08:58
sahil<auronandace> you mean the mainlne kernals?08:59
mar77iso... networkmanager keeps connecting to an inexistent network08:59
sahilmainline*08:59
mar77ihow can I make it actually look for dhcp beyond setting ifupdown/managed=true08:59
ActionParsnipsargennto: then the proprietary video driver should work09:00
ActionParsnip!ati | sargennto09:00
ubottusargennto: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto09:00
ActionParsnipsahil: you can install it but it will not be supported here if you get issues09:01
ActionParsnipsahil: some drivers which are present in your current kernel may not be in the 3.9 kernel. We have no way of knowing as the kernel is not from the Ubuntu repos09:02
ActionParsnipmar77i: sudo dhclient3 eth009:02
mar77ino09:02
mar77iActionParsnip: the customer will not want ot type that into a terminal.09:03
CyraxNow since i enabled it,lets see if it works now.. but i bet it won't09:03
mar77ihmm. so if nm doesn't look for ifupdown config, should I enable ifupdown or some other network service in upstart?09:03
ActionParsnipmar77i: why not?09:03
mar77ibecause the customer doesn't use the terminal.09:04
ActionParsnipmar77i: it will make the interface re-request DHCP....09:04
CyraxShould i tick the box or not for downloading update while installing?09:04
sahil<ActionParsnip> i see...09:04
ActionParsnipmar77i: its a simple command. Why don't they use terminal?09:04
mar77iActionParsnip: because my boss told me so09:04
blazemoremar77i: Make a script and send it to them so they can double-click it09:04
ActionParsnipmar77i: then your boss is a fool09:04
mar77istop it09:05
ActionParsnipmar77i: could use nm-applet to disable wired networking then re-enable wired networking09:05
mar77iit's actually one click to make the ifupdown config run in nm-applet09:05
ActionParsnipmar77i: terminal is one of the most powerful tools in Linux09:05
blazemoremar77i: You've been given the answer tbh, it's up to you if you have weird political barriers between you and it09:05
mar77ii know09:05
ActionParsnipmar77i: i suggest you educaate him09:05
mar77ilol09:06
sahil<ActionParsnip> version 3.8 is available for ubuntu 13.04.... should i try that?09:06
CyraxShould i tick the box for download updates while installing?09:06
blazemoreCyrax: Do you want to download updates while installing?09:06
ActionParsnipsahil: up to you, but again, in ths channel we can only support the kernel for your release form the official epos09:07
Cyraxidk.. but is it recommended to tick the box?09:07
mar77imy question was why nm didn't look for the config it is given and end up with an ip in 192.168.0 range. it's one click to fix that, but I want to set it up right and save people that click every boot09:07
ActionParsnipsahil: why do you want to install a different kernel? Is the one you have now not running all your hardware?09:07
ActionParsnipCyrax: I don't suggest installing updates at install time. Just get the OS in. We can do updates on first boot09:08
Cyraxok,thanks09:08
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sahil<ActionParsnip> okey...i somewhere head that a newer kernal is going to be back ported to ubuntu 12.04 and might be released in august 22... so that will be "official" right? and it will be supported?09:08
sahilheard*09:08
ikoniasahil: why do you want a new kernel ?09:09
ActionParsnipsahil: you can get the 3.5 kernel in Precise if you want09:09
ikoniathis crazy obsession with people wanting kernels for no reason is just sily09:09
ikoniasilly even09:09
ActionParsnipsahil: again, why do you want a new kernel?09:09
ActionParsnipikonia: very silly09:09
ActionParsnipsahil: is all your hardware working ok?09:09
k1lsahil: you can get the 3.8 kernel in 12.0409:09
blazemoreikonia: But 3.9 is 0.1 better than 3.8...09:09
ikoniait's just crazy09:09
k1lsahil: just read about the kernel enablement stack09:09
ActionParsnipblazemore: sadlym that is how ignorant people see it09:10
ikoniait's kicked off recently as a trend09:10
ActionParsnipblazemore: later == better   :(09:10
Cyraxin the bottom right corner there r some symbols.. someone were talking about a v symbol..09:10
ejvif you're so concerned about 3.9, download it, compile it, run it.09:10
ActionParsnipsahil: is all the stuff in your OS working as it should? yes or no?09:10
sahil<ikonia><ActionParsnip> after following phoronix for sometime lately i did see last few kernals has got quite an attention from graphics card vendors and kernals got quite a many patches from them...i believe perhaps that might link to performance improvement as i do play games via wine09:11
CyraxAnd the symbol V at the bottom right of virtualbox.. does that mean Virtualization?09:11
ejvsahil: there's a distribution called gentoo, where you can have all that bleeding edge kernel goodness09:11
ActionParsnipsahil: do the games run ok?09:11
blazemoresahil: or Arch09:11
Itsonquit09:12
ActionParsnipejv: oh thats all kinds of fun to install :)09:12
ikoniasahil: I'm sorry but unless there is something in the release notes that say "fixes performance problem for X" or "fixes problem with Y hardware" then it's not going to make a difference09:12
ejvActionParsnip: takes like 15 minutes if you're experienced and have good hardware :)09:12
ejvin fact, there's a 3.10.6 gentoo-source available, all for you sahil09:12
blazemoreSpeak of the devil09:12
sahil<ActionParsnip> some do 3 out of 10 lol...still i feel proud when i some1 sees me "playin" windows game in linux09:12
ikoniasahil: feel proud ?? why09:13
ikoniasahil: play windows games in widows if you want supportability/stability09:13
ikoniawine is not a dependable solution09:13
ikoniait's a moving taget that is outside the control of most things09:13
ActionParsnipejv: oh yeah but first time Gentoo install with the handbook on another system, takes a good while09:13
sahil<ejv>...ubuntu has its own charms...i did use sabayon in yesteryers...but don geentoo09:13
ActionParsnipsahil: could try the xorg edgers update PPA (less fresh, more stable)09:13
CyraxIf there us a V symbol at the bottom right of the virtualbox.. What does that mean? sorry for asking so much09:14
Cyrax*is09:14
ikoniaCyrax: #vbox is the virtalbox support channel as I explained ealrier09:14
ikoniaearlier09:14
Cyraxwoops09:14
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sahil<ikonia>windows= crapp...anyway i am not returning or buying windows 8...developers version was more den enuf to convince me ...-.-09:15
sahil<ActionParsnip>  link plz..09:15
ikoniasahil: windows = the best platform for running windows based games09:15
[Gentoo]captain obvious09:16
ejvsahil: spare us your professional annotations, they are irrelevant, this is ubuntu support; let's get back to supporting ubuntu shall we?09:16
ActionParsnipsahil: www.google.com   is a great link09:16
sahil<ikonia> yes still...i am bit opensource fanboy :p09:16
Xentinelthe ksoftirqd daemon is going crazy on my system, is there any way to tame that?09:16
ikoniasahil: that's stupid then allowing blind championing of something over the logical / better solution09:16
pradneshsahil: ssup bhaiya?09:17
ikoniaXentinel: what do you mean going crazy09:17
pradneshsahil: aap bhaiya hai?09:17
GGYYrun chrome http://www.sikat.me09:17
GGYYhttp://www.sikat.me09:17
FloodBot1GGYY: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:17
Xentinelikonia, it's taking up like half the processing power, and has been for the past 10 hours I think09:17
ikoniaXentinel: thhats very odd,09:18
ikoniaXentinel: it's normally almost "dead"09:18
ikoniaXentinel: have a look at /proc/interupts is it going crazy ?09:19
sargenntoHas anybody else had problems installing proprietary video drivers via the Additional Drivers screen? Like I assume these should be the correct drivers for my graphics device if Ubuntu reccomends them?09:19
ikoniasargennto: are you actually having a problem ?09:19
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sargenntoikonia:  Yes.. If I choose to use 'AMD graphics accelerator from fglrx-updates (proprietary)' when I reboot my computer X will not start and says screen not found. Then I have to uninstall fglrx and reinstall the radeon driver09:20
sargenntofor x to boo09:21
ikoniasMoms3rdEy<09:21
ActionParsnipsargennto: I just install nvidia-current and reboot09:21
sargennto**boot sorry09:21
ikoniasMoms3rdEy<==========09:21
ikoniaikoniasMoms3rdEy: please change that and grow up09:21
Xentinelikonia, I'm not sure if it is, this is what it looks like http://pastebin.com/8sPGtZFL09:21
ikoniasMoms3rdEyikonia: wait09:21
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ActionParsnipsargennto: what GPU do you have?09:21
ikoniaikonias3rdEye: this won't end well, please chnge it and grow up09:21
sargenntoActionParsnip:  how do I find out?09:21
CyraxVT-x/AMD-V: Enabled , Nested Paging: Enabled .. what does that mean?09:21
ActionParsnipsargennto: sudo lshw -C display09:22
ActionParsnipCyrax: search the web and find out09:22
ActionParsnipCyrax: you do realize, your computer is connected to the largest information database known to mankind09:22
ActionParsnipCyrax: but you ask a handful of users in a chat room.....09:23
[Gentoo]sargennto: the open source radeon drivers are supposed to be more reliable09:23
sargennto[Gentoo]:  Unfortunately games under wine are telling me I do not meet system requirements. This did not happen until I tried installing fglrx and then having to remove it..09:23
[Gentoo]sargennto: they are better for 3d but i hear nothing but bad things about fglrx09:24
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sargenntoActionParsnip:  here is the pastebin output... http://pastebin.com/MQpk2Lrm << But my video card is a Radeon HD 7660G09:24
petapetapetaHello. I seem to have an issue on my server which runs ubuntu. When I attempt to sudo I get the following message: sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so: No such file or directory09:24
petapetapetasudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins09:24
sargennto[Gentoo]:  any idea why when I had a fresh install GW2 installer would open. But after installing fglrx then having to remove it due to x not booting the GW2 installer now says I do not meet the system requirements?09:25
atefwhtas going in :D09:25
failmasterhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone? =) for the last time ever09:25
[Gentoo]sargennto: do you get an error log on the console when x fails to boot?09:26
[Gentoo]like no screens found, module not loaded or whatever09:26
sargenntoit says both of those09:26
failmastergrep EE09:26
sargennto[Gentoo]:  I dont know where to find the log but it does say screen not found and the modules not loaded stuff09:27
Cyraxi even enabled the Intel Virtualization,I made the video memory to 128,Memory size to 2048MB,file and location size to 10GB.. still i get into terminal only09:27
failmastersargennto, /var/log/Xorg*.log09:27
ActionParsnipsargennto: did you install the proprietary video driver?09:27
ActionParsnipCyrax: do you get the login screen?09:28
ikoniahe's missing the vboxdriver09:28
ikoniafor xorg09:28
ikoniathe guest extension are not enabled09:28
failmasterCyrax, you need guest-additions09:28
sargenntoActionParsnip:  I am currently using the radeon driver. But I have installed the proprietary driver twice from the Additional Drivers screen and then X would not boot09:28
failmasteras i mentioned yesterday if i remember well09:28
ActionParsnipikonia: basic drivers are in a default install09:28
ikoniahe's running the host on windows 2008 - and an ubuntu guest09:28
Cyraxhow do i get it and how to i install it09:28
[Gentoo]you dont need the guest additions to get x in vbox09:28
ActionParsnipsargennto: did you run the command to generate xorg.conf as per the !ati how-to?09:28
ikoniaCyrax: #vbox is the channel to explain how to setup virtal box09:29
failmasterCyrax, look through official documentation of virtualbox to find out, it's really easy to reach09:29
ikoniaCyrax: you're running it on a windows host - you need to first set the host up correctly.09:29
[Gentoo]sargennto: yes it sounds like xorg.conf isnt configured, proprietary drivers normally need one generated09:29
ikonia[Gentoo]: it's not that he's missing the video card device and the kernel module needed.09:29
ActionParsnipCyrax: try the boot option:  nomodeset09:30
failmastersargennto, `cat /var/log/Xorg*.log|grep EE` and bring it here via pastebin09:30
ActionParsnipCyrax: also ask in #vbox   they may know a thing or three09:30
ikoniavboxvideo is not installed09:30
sargenntofailmaster:  okay09:30
ikoniaso it complains that /dev/dri/card0 is not found (because udev doesn't create it)09:30
Cyraxi did ask.. al they said was setup run09:31
ActionParsnipCyrax: as ikonia says, you may have to install the guest additions in that terminal. If you use the menu at the top of the session, you can kick off the download. Then set the ISO to mount at boot and run the installer09:31
sargenntofailmaster:  http://pastebin.com/Jr7DLeVz09:31
failmasterhe doesn't even try lol09:31
Cyraxi AM trying.. i just dont know how :s09:31
ActionParsnipCyrax: http://media.bestofmicro.com/linux-xp-virtualbox,X-Z-225431-13.png09:31
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failmastersargennto, apt-get install fglrx09:32
sargenntofailmaster:   and then generate xorg.conf?09:33
blazemore sargennto aticonfig --intital09:34
failmastersargennto, i never used to buy radeon cards but if it says it can do it - try accept this option however i would real about it in google, but most probably it will be fine09:34
failmasterread*09:34
CyraxActionParsnip: I found this guest thing on the photo.. but when i did,i got this: http://puu.sh/40TNg.png09:34
sargenntoblazemore:  failmaster: okay09:34
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failmasterCyrax, did you open official virtualbox documentation which refers to guest-additions?09:35
CyraxNo09:35
ikoniaCyrax: you please please please need to read the basic documents about using vbox09:35
ikoniaCyrax: this is getting tedious09:35
failmasterCyrax, that's why you don't even try09:35
ikoniaCyrax: you've been asked 3 - 4 times to read the basics about setting up virtual box on your host and you ignore it and keep asking the same question over and over09:35
ikoniaCyrax: this channel is for ubuntu support - fixing ubuntu issues, your lack of ability to use virtual box on windows 8 is nothing to do with this channel - so please stop asking09:36
ikoniawe've been pretty patient but you refuse to read the basic setup info, so now we have to draw a line09:36
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CyraxI will stop.. sorry then09:37
failmastersounds so flawless, ubuntu support lol09:37
ikoniafailmaster: I'm sorry what ?09:38
sargenntookay well Im gonna reboot.. wish me well. If im not back soon to let you know it worked it means im trying to get X to start again :(09:38
failmasterjust another stupid sarcastic remark about getting support here09:38
CyraxI wont ask again09:38
ActionParsnipCyrax: also, ask in #vbox09:38
ActionParsnipCyrax: they may know some options for Ubuntu to make things fly09:39
ikoniafailmaster: I think you need to stop - you're getting tedious with these comments, people get good support in here,and I'm a bit tired of you putting it down09:39
ActionParsnipCyrax: you will need the guest additios09:39
failmasterikonia, i'm done with hanging around so i don't really care to listen for your recommendations lol09:39
ikoniafailmaster: ok, the /part the channel09:39
failmasteri never got any support from here09:39
Cyraxi heard u said that.. and i asked where do I download it nad how to install it09:39
failmasteri will when i'll consider it's time to09:39
blazemorefailmaster: /part09:39
failmastersame09:40
failmasterwhy not lol09:40
blazemoreCyrax: Could you sum up your question in one line for me?09:40
Cyraxo.o09:41
heresjohnnyyour mum09:41
Cyraxlike they said i need this guest thing.., and i asked where i could download or isntall it09:42
Cyraxthats all09:42
blazemoreCyrax: Did the instructions in the documentation not work?09:42
ActionParsnipCyrax: the screenshot I gave will pull it down09:43
CyraxI know now where.. problem is i got this when i clicked it: http://puu.sh/40TNg.png09:43
blazemoreCyrax: That's completely unrelated issue to Ubuntu, you're having problems with Virtualbox on Windows09:43
CountryfiedLinuxIs there any functional difference between Ubuntu LTS and Debian Testing other than Ubuntu branded software?09:44
blazemoreCountryfiedLinux: Different repositories, package versions09:44
sargenntoWell that seems to have fixed it. I know this might not be able to be something you guys can help with. But when I had a fresh install of ubuntu I could run the guild wars 2 installer via wine. But ever since I switched drivers back and forth it tells me I do not meet system requirements when trying to open the GW2 installer. fglrx is currently installed and I am still getting that message and I did not on a fresh install09:44
blazemoreCountryfiedLinux: Different kernel configs, so different hardware support09:44
k1lCountryfiedLinux: there is alot. starting by kernel patches and going to different packages09:45
CountryfiedLinuxblazemore: So there's actual improvements made by canonical?09:45
CountryfiedLinuxblazemore: I had the impression they just put it out there with some branded software added.09:45
blazemoreCountryfiedLinux: Not since 200509:45
Akishonacyrax; if you need to download guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.2.16/09:46
blazemore!ot | if you want to chat about it09:46
ubottuif you want to chat about it: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:46
CountryfiedLinuxblazemore: So a user would be better off using Ubuntu LTS rather than Debian Testing then.09:46
blazemoreCountryfiedLinux: Well that's a matter of opinion really09:46
blazemoreCountryfiedLinux: In my opinion, yes, and we use Ubuntu LTS at work09:47
CountryfiedLinuxblazemore: What about a matter of stability?09:47
k1lCountryfiedLinux: you know the purpose of debian testing? and the purpose of ubuntu LTS?09:47
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CountryfiedLinuxblazemore: Oh ok cool. I know at Satellite Med here in town they have Ubuntu on their PCs that patients sign in on. You can't usually tell but when its woken up from suspend or sleep whatever it is, you can see the Ubuntu logo splash come up. Other than that the web browser is in fullscreen so you can't really see anything besides the web page.09:48
CountryfiedLinuxk11 Kinda, I just didn't realize there were actual improvements made to Testing from the Canonical side.09:49
SkizuHey I've got ubuntu 12.04.1 just installed and looking to update my PHP version to 5.4+ at the moment I've 5.3.1009:51
sahilhello again....i have a scanner which doesnot have linux driver(hp scanjet 4890) will wine or virtualbox do any help?09:51
blazemoreSkizu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade09:52
Cyraxi jsut want to thank you all for trying to help me..09:52
sahilos:ubuntu 12.0409:52
blazemoresahil: You could install Windows in Virtualbox, which will support your scanner09:52
blazemoreSkizu: It's now on 5.5 and also includes Apache 2.4 update09:53
sahilokey thnx...09:53
sargenntoActionParsnip:  blazemore, [Gentoo], failmaster: thank you all. everything working as I needed it to now :) I wish I could give yall a big hug09:53
sahil<blazemore>  thnx09:53
Skizublazemore even better thanks09:54
blazemoreGood sargennto :)09:54
[Gentoo]sargennto: what did you end up doing? installing fglrx and doing xorg.conf?09:54
ActionParsnipsahil: possibly, usb access from vbox is pretty decent. Seems the model is not supported by sane09:54
sargennto[Gentoo]:  yeah installing fglrx and then runing the aticonfig --initial09:55
[Gentoo]ok09:55
sargenntothanks again :)09:56
ActionParsnipsahil: could check the same site, see if support has been added recently09:56
sahil<ActionParsnip>ya..its lying dead next to me ever since i switched to linux...09:56
punterMay I use dh_make to create the boilerplate for my debian/ directory?09:56
punterOr is that debian-only?09:56
Skizuubuntu is a fine os to run a lamp server on right?09:56
cowbaconSkizu: ofc it is09:56
ikoniaSkizu: no problems09:56
blazemoreSkizu: Yes, I use it09:57
k1l!lamp | Skizu09:57
ubottuSkizu: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.09:57
sahil<ActionParsnip> 5 months back it wasnt added..will check again though09:57
cowbaconSkizu: as good as any other :) but if you plan on just using it as a server and not a desktop i'd recommend the server edition so you won't waste resources on things you dont need, like a WM/DE, sound etc09:57
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ActionParsnipsahil: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/hp-scanjet-4850.html09:57
SkizuI know what it stands for just wanted to make sure ubuntu was acceptable :) I'm new to setting up php and *nix all together, but can do PHP so hey ho lol09:58
pozoriwhat would be the best way to erase data on hdd with fedora live?09:59
ikoniapozori: ask in #fedora09:59
Skizucowbacon got server edition, no GUI needed :)09:59
blazemorepozori: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX10:00
cowbaconpozori: does it have to be fedora? because there's a lot of live cds made specifically for secure erase of the HDD10:00
leehambleyhow can I find out which package might provide /usr/bin/des ?10:00
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SkizuOnce updated gonna have to get a site working, all challenging at this stage :)10:00
blazemorepozori: Download and install dban it's brilliant10:00
pozoricowbacon: well the feds are on my door and I'm kinda in hurry10:00
blazemorepozori: Get the drive out right now, and smash it10:01
cowbaconpozori: then you need to do like blaze said, because there wont be enough time for a secure erase if they're at your door10:01
pozorij/k I just forgot to change fedora to ubuntu, fedora channel is in night mode10:01
blazemorepozori: Download and burn a copy of dban it will erase your drive10:02
k1lpozori: enough of that. stop it10:02
blazemorealso pozori http://askubuntu.com/questions/17640/how-can-i-securely-erase-a-hard-drive10:02
cowbaconpozori: i recommend this then if youre not in a hurry http://www.dban.org/ it's made for that purpose and its very good10:02
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iaml0whello folks10:06
iaml0wi installed today first time lubuntu (its my first linux distr) and i have 2 problems. first i have no sound except a small noise like a small bass which is coming sometimes through my headset and i dont know how to install a run data.so my question is there somebody who could help me pls by teamviewer to solve those probs? would be great10:08
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charilgame ubuntu10:10
charilhahahahahah10:11
SkizuOdd question, how do I find out the local ip of my ubuntu machine? Total novice here10:12
charilhe10:12
DJonesSkizu: Wired or wireless? wired type ifconf in a terminal, wireless type iwconfig in a terminal10:13
Akishonaskizu: ifconfig eth010:13
SkizuThanks DJones Akishona, now to try set up winSCP :s10:13
ActionParsnipSkizu: ifconfig     will yell you10:14
ActionParsnipSkizu:  ifconfig | grep inet | awk {'print $2'} | cut -d":" -f10:16
ActionParsnipSkizu:  ifconfig | grep inet | awk {'print $2'} | cut -d":" -f 210:16
ActionParsnipSkizu: cheeky one-liners are fun :)10:17
SkizuSooo, setting a static IP10:18
MonkeyDustActionParsnip  i already was playing with it too :)10:18
ActionParsnipSkizu: for your WAN IP, run:   sudo apt-get install curl; curl icanhazip.com10:18
ActionParsnipSkizu: or:   wget -qO- icanhazip.com    if you cannot install curl :)10:19
SkizuOnly a local machine :)10:19
SkizuWhat's an easy editor? VIM ?10:20
ActionParsnipSkizu: nano is super easy but quite basic10:21
Akishonaskizu: joe, nano is easy10:21
SkizuNano it is haha, want easy to start with already enough new things you know10:22
dragoonisI have a working bash script, i just reinstalled ubuntu fresh and I'm running the script and getting errors.10:22
dragoonisThis line: "if [[ $1 == "main" ]]; then"10:22
dragoonisGives this error when the file is executed: "./minify.sh: 5: ./minify.sh: [[: not found"10:23
dragoonisHelp ?10:23
jribdragoonis: what's the first line of your script and how are you running it?10:23
ActionParsnipdragoonis: if you run:  ls   do you see the file?10:24
dragoonisjrib, "./minify.sh main"   and the first line is: "#!/bin/sh"10:24
ActionParsnipdragoonis: can you pastebin the script please10:25
jribdragoonis: change "sh" to "bash"10:25
jribdragoonis: you have a bash script, not an sh script10:25
ActionParsnipjrib: nice catch10:25
SkizuSo got a static ip and now trying to connect, it's hanging on waiting for a welcome message10:26
SkizuSo do I have to enable FTP?10:26
santhosh<Skizu>?10:26
santhoshthe iphave in metworking only10:27
dragoonisjrib, ok that fixed those errors.10:27
blazemoreSkizu: You should use SFTP not FTP; install the package openssh-server10:27
SkizuAhhh I did, just selected the wrong thing10:27
SkizuAnd I'm in :) thanks blazemore10:27
santhoshok10:27
Akishonaskizu: you are trying to transfer some files from a linux machine to a windows machine using winscp. what protocol do you use ?10:28
dragoonisjrib, ActionParsnip there's something else.. I'm running some script I got online and it's outputting this at the end of the line10:28
dragoonisERROR_DISPLAY="\t\033[31;40m\033[1m[error]\033[0m"10:28
sinkensabehow can keybind centering of windows?10:28
dragoonisbut when it outputs it doesn't output any control characters, but instead just outputs the above characters literally.10:28
dragoonisi.e: \t does not become a tab.10:29
SkizuFrom a windows machine to a linux :)10:29
jribdragoonis: what does this script do?10:29
dragoonisminify_recursive.sh10:29
jribdragoonis: that doesn't mean anything to me10:29
dragoonisjrib, it recursively goes through <path> and minifies CSS and JS files using yuicompressor10:30
dragoonisThe script is doing this.10:30
dragoonisecho "Error: Failed to create $1 directory. $ERROR_DISPLAY"10:31
jribdragoonis: pastebin the script10:31
dragoonisexcept $ERROR_DISPLAY is not being evaluated, just outputted literally10:31
dragoonisjrib, i figured it out, it's just color codes stuff.10:32
jribdragoonis: ok10:33
dragoonisbut my terminal is not accepting it.. but "ls --color=auto" shows me fancy colors10:33
dragoonisso I wonder why it doesn't work here.10:33
ActionParsnipdragoonis: run:  source ~/.bashrc10:33
dragoonisActionParsnip, no output to STDOUT10:33
ActionParsnipdragoonis: thats fine, means it worked10:34
ActionParsnipdragoonis: try now10:34
dragoonisk10:34
ActionParsnipdragoonis: no news is good news in Linux10:34
dragoonisActionParsnip, nope, still no color output10:34
ActionParsnipdragoonis: is the alias in your ~/.bashrc10:34
ActionParsnipdragoonis: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:34
dragoonisMinifying all css files recursively in /home/paul/www/dev.site.com/bin/../_build/main/css \t\033[1;32;40m\033[1m[ok]\033[0m10:35
dragoonisthe end output is supposed to be [ok], with green colors10:35
ActionParsnipdragoonis: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:37
dragoonisActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l10:38
dragoonislooks like it's not evaluating \n either? :)10:38
ActionParsnipdragoonis: hats normal in the issue file :)10:38
ActionParsnipdragoonis: if you add the alias in ~/.bashrc then run the source command again it should apply10:39
dragoonisActionParsnip, okay, i'll give it a go thanks for your time.10:39
kubiloverhi does ubuntu have mobile broadband drivers included in its software cd?10:39
iaml0whey i opened a txt as root in terminal and added a new line to it10:40
ActionParsnipkubilover: you just need to switch the device from storage to serial modem10:40
iaml0wbut how does it safe the txt now10:40
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iaml0wso that its overwriten10:40
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ActionParsnipiaml0w: what text editor?10:40
FloodBot1!netsplit10:40
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit10:40
ActionParsnipiaml0w: what text editor?10:40
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ActionParsnipkubilover: if you run:  lsusb    you wil lsee an 8 character hex ID, you can use this to find guides10:41
iaml0wmy soundcard doesnt work and i did the tutorial from ubuntu.but when i try to add the new command which the txt needs with normal editor.it says it cant be safed.so i made it as root in terminal i opened the txt and i want to safe it now.the command for safe is "^0 safe" but i dont know why it doesnt work10:41
kubiloveractionparsnip, but if i do not mount it i do not have to do anything right?10:41
iaml0wor what i have to do there10:41
DJonesiaml0w: Which text editor did you use10:42
ActionParsnipkubilover: no, the storage is for Windows and Mac as Windows users apparently cannot install drivers themselves10:42
DJonesiaml0w: Or what command did you use to open the text file10:42
iaml0wsorry i dont know which editor i used cause i didnt install one i just used which one was given by lubuntu.sorry its my first linux ever10:42
ActionParsnipiaml0w: yes, what text editor did you use?10:42
ActionParsnipiaml0w: ubuntu comes with 2 by default, nano and vi10:43
kubiloverbut.. i did not have to install any package it asked me for pin..10:43
iaml0wi opened it now but there is no name from txt editor10:43
iaml0wit just opened it10:43
iaml0wah now i see10:43
DJonesiaml0w: What command did you to open the file10:43
iaml0win english it would be "easy gtk+ based editor"10:44
DJonesiaml0w: What command did you type to open the file10:44
ActionParsnipiaml0w: in the top left, do you see the word 'nano'?10:44
iaml0wno word like nano10:44
iaml0wor any other10:44
kubiloverand it works but later on I want to partition the whole drive for ubuntu with the key being the only internet source so i am kinda worried10:44
ActionParsnipiaml0w: sounds like vi10:44
Akishonapico maybe ?10:44
iaml0wbut in terminal10:44
iaml0wi did open with nano10:44
ActionParsnipiaml0w: if you press ESC  then type   ":wq"    without the quotes10:44
iaml0wsudo nano -w then the directory and opened the data10:44
iaml0wand added the line10:44
iaml0wbut i cant safe it10:45
iaml0wor dont know how to safe the file10:45
ActionParsnipiaml0w: if its nano press CTRL+X, Pres Y then press ENTER10:45
Akishonactrl+o and ctr+x10:45
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Akishonaiaml0w: in nano you can use F2 to save10:45
iaml0wok ctrl x worked10:45
iaml0wbut now it says10:45
iaml0wdos format10:46
iaml0wmac format10:46
iaml0wwhich one do i have to take?10:46
Akishonaiaml0w: ctrl+o to write in file and ctrl+x to exit10:46
iaml0wsorry guys im english also not so good to explain well10:46
Akishonaiaml0w: ctrl+o to write in file and ctrl+x to exit10:46
iaml0wcan somebody help me with teamviewer,please?10:47
iaml0wi dont really know what to do it doesnt work10:47
iaml0wi have no sound10:47
iaml0wand i cant install ati driver10:47
ActionParsnipiaml0w: inviting strangers on to your PC isnt smart10:48
iaml0wah there are no data10:48
iaml0wwhich would be important10:48
ActionParsnipiaml0w: and why do yo have teamviewer setup, when you dont even have basic stuff like sound and so forth et10:48
Dr_Willisand this channel is full of strangers. ;)10:48
iaml0wi dont know if i have teamviewer here10:48
iaml0wbut i think there is any program maybe10:49
ActionParsnipiaml0w: its not installed by default10:49
iaml0wlike teamviewer10:49
iaml0wwhat is the name of program?10:49
ActionParsnipiaml0w: if you dont have teamviewer how can people connect to you>10:49
iaml0wwhich i have to use10:49
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iaml0wis teamviewer same existing for linux?10:49
iaml0wor is it another name?10:49
Dr_Willis!teamviewer10:49
iceroot_iaml0w: its the same10:49
iceroot_iaml0w: its using the windows version with wine10:49
Dr_Willisim still amazed that teamviewer using wine actually works.10:50
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iaml0wdamn why cant i search programs with software center10:50
iceroot_iaml0w: and you should try to avoid such NSA software, you dont have the control over the software and what is is doing with your data10:50
iaml0wthere  are only "multimedia" "internet" etc10:50
iaml0wand no possibility to search after programs by name10:51
ActionParsnipiceroot_: neither do you once your data leaves your network10:51
iaml0wanyway thanks for help its to complicated for me10:51
iaml0wi have to switch back on windows better for me10:51
ActionParsnipiceroot_: you gonna boycott the internet?10:51
iceroot_ActionParsnip: sure, with end to end encryption10:51
iaml0wthx guys have nice day10:51
ActionParsnipiceroot_: and NSA dont have keys for that?10:51
iceroot_ActionParsnip: no10:52
thinclientI'm booting an old version of ubuntu 6.06.1-desktop.  How do I boot into text mode?  (no x). ??10:52
iceroot_ActionParsnip: have a look for example at pgp mail10:52
Dr_Willishmm.. software center has a 'search' thing in its menus...10:52
iceroot_ActionParsnip: but something like SSL wont be save, they can have the priv key10:52
ActionParsnipiceroot_: there are master SSL controllers which can move and view keys for the registrars they manage10:52
Dr_Willisguess he would rather use windows.. then look at the app hes using..10:53
iceroot_ActionParsnip: yes10:53
ActionParsnipiceroot_: so, you going to not use the web? NSA is watching you.....10:53
marinelI have ATI RV350 card. I want to watch youtube videos, but its too slow now. How i can get 3d acceleration to work? my ubuntu is 13.1010:54
* Dr_Willis reports ActionParsnip10:54
iceroot_ActionParsnip: i am not using software which is able to control my view, mouse, keyboard and so on10:54
ActionParsnipiceroot_: or, you can just get on with stuff and lose the tinfoil hats10:54
cfhowlettthinclient, why oh why don't you upgrade to a SUPPORTED verions?10:54
DJones!text | thinclient Not sure if this will work with 6.06 with it being so old. Don't forget that its no longer supported either10:54
ubottuthinclient Not sure if this will work with 6.06 with it being so old. Don't forget that its no longer supported either: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode10:54
Dr_Willismarinel:  install the fglrx drvivers.. and 13.10 is in testing and unstable. and is supported in #ubuntu+110:54
iceroot_ActionParsnip: i would only use FOSS software for that like SSH, vnc and so on with a direct connection, teamviewer is not a direct connection10:54
ActionParsnipiceroot_: are you blocking port 6001 to 6007 on your firewall?10:55
marinelDr_Willis,  Ok, i will try that. Thank you :)10:55
thinclientcfhowlett:  That would be nice, but my thinclient is old via chipset 400mhz cpu and 108mb ram.  Newer versions of ubuntu are incompatible with my video chipset. That's why I want to boot the old ubuntu dapper 610:55
Dr_Willisthinclient:  turn off/disable/remove the GDM login manager, is another way perhaps.10:55
iceroot_ActionParsnip: every port is blocked from outside because i have NAT10:56
Dr_Willisthinclient:  for that low end a machine - you may want to look into puppylinux legacy edition.  or some of the other legacy hardware disrtos out there.10:56
iceroot_ActionParsnip: so i have to open them localy and establish a connection10:56
ActionParsnipiceroot_: i think you are bring far too cautious for not much gain10:56
hayericeroot_: nat.. blocking.. what..10:56
iceroot_ActionParsnip: its just "dont use non free software which is sending important data through us servers"10:57
Dr_Willisthat means he actualy has somthing to hide!  :)10:57
iceroot_ActionParsnip: nothing wrong with that advice10:57
ActionParsnipiceroot_: like email from Outlook which flows through servers.....right?10:57
synth_Hi guys, I badly need help..10:57
iceroot_ActionParsnip: all important mails using pgp here10:57
cfhowlett!details\synth_,10:57
hayerDr_Willis: Yea, lets get rid of all this thing they call "privacy" in a attempt to get rid of "piracy"10:57
cfhowlett!details|synth_,10:57
ubottusynth_,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:57
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Dr_Willishayer:  i got it even better.. make dvd videos that you cant actually play in legal players!  that way you cant even pirate them or play them legally!10:58
hayer"War against piracy" == "War against privacy"10:58
hayerDr_Willis: That actually made sens :310:58
ActionParsnipiceroot_: you do realise nsa was formed in 1952...?10:59
Dr_Willishayer:  Legally Bought 'Love Boat Season 1' for the wife (i know its a HEAVLY in demand by pirates) - it wont play in her dvd player. ;P10:59
DJonesMaybe getting a bit too far off topic now10:59
ActionParsnipiceroot_: so the last few years blocking them is outweighed by the data they may or may not have gathered in previous years10:59
iceroot_ActionParsnip: and what is wrong about thinking about my privacy?11:00
synth_Ok, here's the thing, I installed Ubunt 12.04 on my laptop, an HP G42-476TX. The problem is I do not get any display on my LCD on my laptop but if I connect it to an external monitor it works, and another problem is, when I;m on grub, and select the first option for the OS Boot, it freezes on the Ubuntu loading screen, whawt I do is I navigate to the previous versions in grub and select the first one there and the display problem still persists but I can bo11:00
synth_ot11:00
iceroot_ActionParsnip: should i stop that and open everything?11:00
hayeryea, all hush - stick with ubuntu.. No more talk of NSA. brb 2 guys in black knocking on my door.11:00
synth_MY laptop has a GFX card, ATI Radeon HD 637011:00
ActionParsnipiceroot_: what are they going to do with the data? What are you afraid of?11:00
synth_And I think the drivers are installed11:00
ActionParsnipsynth_: all systems have gfx chips, or they will not POST11:00
hayerActionParsnip: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy11:01
Dr_Willissynth_:  you mean the fglrx or the open sourced drivers?11:01
iceroot_ActionParsnip: i have important customer data on my pc (we are working for the iran)11:01
iceroot_ActionParsnip: and the customer is afraid11:01
synth_i think the fglrx11:01
synth_are installed11:01
iceroot_ActionParsnip: so i have to find some solutions to protect there data11:01
k1l!ot | hayer iceroot_ ActionParsnip11:01
synth_im farily new to linux11:01
ubottuhayer iceroot_ ActionParsnip: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:01
cfhowletticeroot_, assume he's monitored and proceed ...11:01
hayer"iceroot_ bomb iran hate usa kill obama" -- bbiceroot_11:01
ActionParsnipsynth_: you can check with:   sudo lshw -C display11:01
Dr_Willissynth_:  so you installed the fglrx drivers using the addational-drivers tool?11:01
synth_olraytt11:01
cfhowletthayer, not helpful at all11:01
andipis there an easy way to disable the sudo-stuff from a default ubuntu-install? (want to use su instead)11:02
hayer... well fox.11:02
nastassynth_: i think ATI drivers is the culprit11:02
k1l!guidelines > hayer11:02
ubottuhayer, please see my private message11:02
Dr_Willisandip:  why do you want to use su?  stick with sudo, its the ubuntu way.11:02
Arghhuhu11:02
Dr_Willisandip:  and you can su to a user. just not to root by default11:02
cfhowlettandip, inadviseable11:02
synth_hold on11:03
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andipanyone wanna answer my question instead of telling me what to do and not?11:03
ActionParsnipandip: if you disable 'sudo stuff' you will have issues11:03
synth_Can I paste what the terminal said in here?11:03
ActionParsnipsynth_: use http://pastie.org11:03
k1lsynth_: use a pastebin11:03
Dr_Willisandip:  and if you want to ask us  how to badly break your system...11:03
Dr_Willis!sudo11:03
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo11:03
synth_pl11:03
synth_olrayt hold on11:04
ActionParsnipandip: :   sudo su    will give you a root console, you can also better control whom can access it with the sudo group11:04
synth_http://pastie.org/823236711:04
Dr_Willis'sudo -s'  ;)  or 'sudo -i'  for a root shell.11:04
ActionParsnipandip: a lot of Ubuntu is geared around the use of sudo, so its not a good idea11:04
synth_i have no idea what this means11:04
nastasandip: can you explain why you want to use su?11:05
ActionParsnipsynth_: the driver is not loader11:05
synth_I'm using my laptop now, its jsut that its connected to an external monitor11:05
Dr_WillisBiggest danger to a ubuntu box i see in this channel (and forums) are the end users  doing weird things that they dont understand.11:05
synth_I'm sorry what? It's not loaded?11:05
synth_what do you mean is not loader?11:05
Dr_Willissynth_:  the system will default to the open sourced ati driver, unless you install the fglrx driver. and not all cards are supported by the fglrx driver.11:06
ActionParsnipsynth_: you installed the fglrx driver, right?11:06
Mathisenandip: passwd root11:06
Mathisenthen su11:06
synth__disconnected im sorryu11:06
auronandace!noroot | Mathisen11:06
ubottuMathisen: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.11:06
ActionParsnipMathisen: please dont11:06
andipah. thanks Mathisen, should've thought of that myself11:06
synth__i got disconnected11:07
synth__anyways11:07
synth__i dont think so11:07
synth__how can i check if i installed the flgrx?11:07
ActionParsnipsynth_: then install it and it will work11:07
MonkeyDustMathisen  please don't tell people how to ruin their system11:07
* Mathisen hides under a rock11:07
synth__how can I knnow first if it is indeed installed11:07
ActionParsnipsynth_: dpkg -l  | grep -i fglrx11:08
Dr_Willissynth__:  run     software-properties-gtk    and look in the last tab. and see what drivers it suggests11:08
andipdo you always assume people in here will break their system if they dosomething not advised by ubuntu?11:08
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iceroot_andip: when it comes to sudo/su, yes11:08
Dr_Willisandip:  yes.11:09
andipah, kindergarten11:09
Dr_WillisBiggest danger to a ubuntu box i see in this channel (and forums) are the end users  doing weird things that they dont understand.11:09
iceroot_andip: its just a matter of time until they will break the system when using sudo/su11:09
synth__http://pastie.org/823237611:09
iceroot_ActionParsnip: trust us, we are doing the support here since some years11:09
Dr_Willisand he was the one that dident think of 'sudo passwd'  ;P11:09
iceroot_ActionParsnip: wrong nick, sorry11:09
synth__Dr_Willis how can I run that?11:10
Dr_Willissynth__:  this?     software-properties-gtk     .. type it in a terminal11:10
synth__ok one sec11:11
Mathisenpersonaly i think, Let them break the system you learn by doing mistakes, and you learn pretty mutch by problem solving to if they mess something upp11:11
synth__and look at the last tab?11:11
synth__statistics?11:11
ActionParsnipsynth_: try:     sudo aticonfig --initial11:11
Dr_Willislast tab here is 'addational drivers'11:12
ActionParsnipMathisen: yes but they come in here and we have to dig them out of something so easily avaoidable because "they know better"11:12
Dr_Willissynth__:  what ubuntu release are you using?11:12
ActionParsnipMathisen: so if you teach them best practice then it avoids issues11:12
auronandaceMathisen: it is better to learn from other peoples mistakes, i don't need to put my own hand in a fire to know it will burn11:12
synth__12.04 LTS11:12
Dr_WillisTeaching proper Habbits/procedures is easier then unlearning Bad habbits. ;)11:12
synth__pastie.org/823238411:13
Dr_Willissynth__:  look in the menus for an 'Addational drivers' tool perhaps.11:13
synth__Ok, I knew that before and installed the ATI ones11:13
synth__BUT11:13
synth__after I installed that11:13
synth__System won't boot on me11:13
auronandace!enter | synth__11:13
ubottusynth__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:13
synth__My bad11:14
helmut_hi11:14
Dr_Willis'wont boot' is very very differnt from 'boots up to a black screen with a flashing cursor' ;)11:14
troulouliou_devhi is it possible to play a blueray that have a BD+protection from the blueray driver on ubuntu ?11:14
Dr_Willissynth__:  so you DO  have the fglrx drivers instralled and the sytem is not booting ot the login screen? or what exactly11:14
synth__Ok, so I installed the ATI drivers on the "Additional Drivers" and after that it did not display on my laptop lcd and it freezes on the ubuntu logo11:15
Dr_Willistroulouliou_dev:  not withut some extra work i belive11:15
Dr_Willis!blueray11:15
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:15
troulouliou_devDr_Willis, so the only solutio is to rip it ???11:15
synth__What I did to boot up was, select the "Previous versions" option in GRUB and selected the first one there, and then bam it loads normally but still no display on screen11:15
nastassynth__: why don't you simply uninstall ati drivers?11:16
Dr_Willistroulouliou_dev:  no idea. I have all of like 2 blueray disks.. i basically refuse to buy movies any more. Total boycott of the movie indusrty!11:16
troulouliou_devDr_Willis, :) ok fait enough11:16
Dr_Willistroulouliou_dev:  i recall seeing guides on getting blueray movies working.11:16
synth__Because I do not know exactly how to do it -_-11:16
nastashttp://linuxg.net/how-to-properly-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers-on-debian-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/11:17
nastassynth__: did you try this?11:17
synth__Hold on not yet11:17
nastassynth__: i had issues with my ATI drivers for the last 2 releases11:18
synth__But the thing I do not get is11:18
synth__Why exactly doesn't show up on my laptop screen but shows fine on my external monitor via VGA?11:18
troulouliou_devDr_Willis, yes but with standard protection it seems and by downloading a key ..11:19
nastassynth__: did you try without external monitor?11:19
synth__Yes, it doesnt show anything on my LCD11:19
synth__laptop LCD i mean11:19
Llucidhisto?11:20
synth__ok heres what I got when I tried the first line on uninstalling the fglrx11:20
synth__http://pastie.org/823239911:20
synth__And the fact that I cannot boot properly on the regular GRUB selection and I still need to go to the "Previous Versions" Page and select the first one there11:21
LlucidI cannot recall the line to find -name ".db" -delete for .Skype11:21
LlucidSomeone help me order that correctly, please?11:21
nastassynth__: are you connected to the internet with cable or wifi?11:21
synth__WiFi11:22
nastassynth__: are you able to use cable?11:22
synth__Yes11:22
LlucidAnyone? In a rush to do this..11:22
nastassynth__: ok. use your cable and start ubuntu in recovery option in grub11:23
synth__Ok and then what?11:23
jribLlucid: no idea what "this" is, but I suggest you start with: find ~/.Skype -name '*.db'11:23
LlucidThats it, Thank you11:23
synth__I wanna know what to do because i'm using the same system.11:23
nastassynth__: then a list will pop up and you have to configure network (with cable will happen automatic)11:24
synth__Ok and then what?11:24
nastassynth__: then you will use the terminal option11:24
synth__can we talk in PM?11:25
nastassynth__: after that you will follow the website guide11:25
nastassynth__: ok11:25
synth__Sent11:25
synth__@nastas Sent11:25
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Kartagiswhy do I get "Couldn't upload the file, check that your internet connection is active" when I drag and drop an image to "Drop to share" facility?11:37
snufftKartagis, are you in the right channel? :P11:37
Kartagissnufft: yeah, I'm in #ubuntu11:37
MonkeyDustKartagis  drop to share in which application?11:38
snufftKartagis, ahh! sorry mate. That looked a but like a Drupal question :P ignore me :P11:38
KartagisMonkeyDust: cairo-dock11:38
snufftbit*11:38
Kartagissnufft: np11:38
MonkeyDustKartagis  isnt cairo-dock an animated taskbar?11:39
KartagisMonkeyDust: yeah, but it includes such a thing. I can show you a screenshot with the error if you want11:40
ActionParsnipKartagis: are there bugs reported?11:40
KartagisActionParsnip: I searched, but came across none11:40
MonkeyDustKartagis  share with whom or with what?11:41
ActionParsnipKartagis: I suggest you report one then11:41
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KartagisMonkeyDust: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/Screenshot%20from%202013-08-13%2014%3A40%3A45.png it uploads ther image to uppix.net11:42
machy geeks.. i need an terminal line to listen microphone in real time.. i know it is something like loop-back ?11:43
MonkeyDustKartagis  ok, so uppix.net11:43
ActionParsnipmac: so a 'record what I hear' sort of thing?11:43
MonkeyDustKartagis  it says on the uppix page, you have to connect there too, maybe that's the issue11:44
macyes11:44
ActionParsnipmac: www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJO5rHI6akM.11:45
ActionParsnipmac: obviously remove the fullstop11:45
KartagisMonkeyDust: I can't see such an information11:46
MonkeyDustKartagis  are we talking about the same page? http://imagebin.org/26741311:51
KartagisMonkeyDust: yeah, but I don't see such a line,11:52
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marinelI installed fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle packages after that i did "sudo aticonfig --initial". This is the error: aticonfig: No supported adapters detected" // i have ATI RV35011:58
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Kartagishrm12:00
KartagisMonkeyDust: I have narrowed it down to just images12:01
synth_Ok,12:01
robin0800marinel: think rv350 is not supported12:01
MonkeyDustKartagis  and did that solve the problem?12:01
synth_So guys the guys that we're helping me earlier, i'm back to update, i was able to get back display on my laptop LCD and I have NO IDEA what happened it just came back when I was restarting my laptop12:01
marinelrobin0800, Ok. Its old card, i know. Maybe i have to find some other used card :/. I want to only watch youtube videos.12:02
KartagisMonkeyDust: I still can't upload images12:02
synth_And with the boot problem i did not even try to boot normally since I do not want to lose the display again12:02
KartagisI've tried uppix.net and imagebin.ca so far12:02
synth_How do I check what drivers are installed on my ubuntu 12.04?12:04
jpdssynth_: As in all modules?12:04
synth_if possible, yes12:04
synth_but all I want to know is the video card drivers12:05
troulouliou_devsynth_, lsmod12:05
jpdssynth_: sudo jockey-text -l12:05
marinelrobin0800, is there way to tweak open source drivers then. Some how?12:05
synth_hmm ok which one? o_o12:05
synth_i'm kinda new to this so i have no idea what so ever12:05
jpdssynth_: Both.12:05
synth_ok what first then?12:06
winterdjhi all. is there a way to specify the mysql data directory location when installing the package with aptitude?12:06
winterdjif I want a non-default location?12:06
winterdjmaybe in an env variable or something?12:06
MonkeyDustKartagis  can you upload to imagebin directly on the website? if yes, it's a cairo-dock issue and you may want to report a !bug12:07
ThePendulumGreetings12:07
KartagisMonkeyDust: you mean uppix.net12:07
cfhowlettThePendulum, greetings12:07
ThePendulumI was wondering if someone knows why the sticky window feature was removed from Compiz as of 13.0412:07
Kartagis?12:07
cfhowlettThePendulum, best to ask the compiz developers, no?12:08
marinelIs there any tweak-tool for open source ATI drivers? I would want try different settings for my ATI RV350. Or can i do anything?12:08
MonkeyDustKartagis  that too, but you said you cant upload to imagebin either12:08
synth_ok new problem, i noticed when I'm downloading stuff using Mozilla, it runs sooooo damnn slowww like 30kbps12:08
robin0800marinel: check xorg.o.log file should tell you whats enabled or disabled12:08
ThePendulumcfhowlett: I asked them and they told me the Ubuntu developers have deteriorated compiz completely... hence I'm asking here12:09
marinelrobin0800, wait, i will check12:09
ilyaHi. I have a problem with EFI on XPS13. to install grub in EFI mode, i have to boot in EFI mode, but i can boot to usb stick or to my installed ubuntu only through legacy mode. Can anyone help?12:11
marinelhere is the Xorg.0.log with fglrx drivers first http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5980933/12:13
Guest13014,12:14
Guest13014y12:14
marinelrobin0800, hmmm 23.714] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0). Can i some how load that fglrx module manually?12:16
ravi_i want to insta12:18
ravi_ll12:18
robin0800marinel: that all looks fine to me think youtube ect should work and no fglx can't be loaded12:18
ravi_hi12:18
cfhowlett!details|ravi_,12:18
ubotturavi_,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:18
jayathe bot is nice :)12:18
ravi_cfhowlett: hi ....i want to install armhf on ubuntu12.04 amd6412:18
ravi_can you help me12:19
cfhowlettravi_, armhf?  don't know it ...12:19
k1lravi_: for installs on arm we have #ubuntu-arm12:19
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Luzbelitohello, im usinf ubuntu 13.04, and looks like ive crashed the unity. It says cant find the system tray. exiting.12:24
Luzbelitoand tried a lot of instructions from the web without results12:24
Luzbelitonow im usin enlightement environment. But really want to repair the Unity12:25
blazemoreLuzbelito: Does this occur when you log in as another user, such as the Guest user?12:25
Luzbelitoyes, in all the users the same12:25
blazemoreLuzbelito: What exact error message do you get?12:26
system404PLEASE BAN MY IP !!!12:26
system404PLEASE BAN MY IP !!!12:26
system404PLEASE BAN MY IP !!!12:26
FloodBot1system404: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:26
system404PLEASE BAN MY IP !!!12:27
system404PLEASE BAN MY IP !!!12:27
FloodBot1system404: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:27
* cfhowlett wait, so we're ASKING to be banned? I don't get it ...12:27
marineli don't even have /etc/X11/<any_xorg.conf file> O.o, but still i can run this GUI. Only 3d acceleration is missing.12:27
iceroot_marinel: its normal that the file is missing by default12:27
marineliceroot_, ok12:28
iceroot_marinel: only if you want to overwrite the udev-detection you have to create a xorg.conf12:28
marineliceroot_, maybe i could make own xorg.conf? would that help me to get 3d acceleration. I don't want to give up with this  ATI RV35012:29
iceroot_marinel: that is what normally the ati driver should do, create that file12:30
iceroot_!ati | marinel12:30
ubottumarinel: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:30
marineliceroot_, ok i start to read :)12:31
ravi_i want to install armhf on ubuntu12.04 amd6412:31
MonkeyDustravi_  type /join #ubuntu-arm     <-- don't forget the /12:32
OerHeksravi_, wrong architecture.12:32
digi00hey12:34
ravi_hey12:34
shafoxHow can i set up my airtel 4g lte dongol in my linux mint 15 mate ??12:34
blazemore!mint | shafox12:34
ubottushafox: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org12:34
cfhowlettshafox, ask the mint folks12:34
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shafoxcfhowlett: && blazemore linux mint is basically port of ubuntu 13.04 so i guess the solution would work hence asked here also12:35
digi00Is there any good (UPDATED) guide for sharing the printer connected to my kubuntu-desktop so that others windows PCs on the network can use itÖ12:35
digi00?12:35
iceroot_!cups | digi0012:36
ubottudigi00: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu12:36
cfhowlettshafox, correct but ... linux-mint provides mint support because they're the experts.12:36
DJonesshafox: Mint has its own support networks, this channel only supports the official Ubuntu releases12:36
blazemore_hat!kubuntu | digi0012:36
ubottudigi00: Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde12:36
shafoxcfhowlett: thanks12:36
cfhowlettshafox, best of luck12:37
hans_hi12:37
robin0800marinel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:37
hans_i am stuck with VMwareplayer12:37
blazemore_hat!details | hans_12:38
ubottuhans_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:38
hans_yesterday it worked fine, ubuntu updated and now it asks  for ¨several modules must be compiled and loaded into the running kernel¨12:38
blazemore_hathans_: sudo vmware-modconfig --console --install-all12:39
hans_it shows also 2 buttons INSTALL and cancel but there is no action when the install is pressed12:39
Luzbelitoblazemore> No system tray detected on this system. Exiting.12:39
marinelrobin0800, i did that. After 6 sudo aticonfig --initial i came here to show the error :/12:39
ActionParsnipdigi00: CUPS can do that by default, just needs config. Or share with Samba12:40
blazemore_hatLuzbelito: Can you run the command gnome-session-properties12:41
blazemore_hatLuzbelito: In the window that appears there will be an entry with "hplip" in it somewhere - maybe similar to "sh -c "sleep 15; exec hp-systray""12:41
blazemore_hatLuzbelito: Change it to sh -c "sleep 45; exec hp-systray"12:42
blazemore_hator remove that entry entirely12:42
marinelrobin0800, but part 4. Enabling Video Hardware Acceleration is interesting. Hmm can i try to install binary driver from site? I understand now that my gpu is too old :D12:42
hans_ok12:42
guest258415hi12:43
Luzbelitocould I do it opening terminal from here? I'm usinf enlightenment12:43
melas123hey12:43
hans_thanks!!!12:43
guest258415i am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, the problem is that the touchpad is not working in live session, how can i fix it?12:44
robin0800marinel: don't think you can as fglrx has a list of supported cards and if yours is not there it will not install12:44
ActionParsnipguest258415: what make and model system?12:44
guest258415ActionParsnip, it is toshiba satellite j10 dynabook12:45
ActionParsnipguest258415: why was that not in the initial question? Why did I have to ask?12:45
LuzbelitoHP system tray service? unchecking it12:46
ActionParsnipguest258415: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:47
ActionParsnipguest258415: you can run a terminal by pressing CTRL+ALT+T12:47
marinelrobin0800, is there list what GPU's works out of the box in ubuntu? If i try some second hand gpu some where.12:47
blazemore_hatmarinel: You'd be hard pushed to find a GPU released in the last 10 years which doesn't work out of the box in Ubuntu12:49
blazemore_hatguest258415: Is there a shortcut key on your laptop to disable/enable the trackpad? usually fn+ one of the function keys12:49
ActionParsnipguest258415: tried Fn + F9 ?12:49
ActionParsnipguest258415: seems to be a shortcut to enable/disable the touchpad12:49
ActionParsnipguest258415: if you see a more likely button, use that12:50
robin0800marinel: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/amdcatalyst13-4linreleasenotes.aspx12:50
ActionParsnipguest258415: also try running:  synclient TouchpadOff=012:50
ActionParsnipguest258415: does any of this work so far....12:50
ActionParsnipguest258415: could also try the boot option:   i8042.nomux=112:51
ActionParsnipguest258415: or:   irqpoll    as a boot option12:51
guest258415ActionParsnip, there is not button to turn it off, let try the last 2 answrs12:51
marinelrobin0800, thank you12:51
ActionParsnipguest258415: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:52
ActionParsnipguest258415: you neer said...12:52
ActionParsnipguest258415: can then search for bugs (if any are reported)12:52
Luzbelitoblazemore, i've unchecked HP system tray.. Should I reboot now?12:53
blazemore_hatLuzbelito: You can just log out and in12:53
ActionParsnipguest258415: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:54
ActionParsnipguest258415: runs in the same Terminal you ran the other commands in12:54
guest258415ActionParsnip, synclient Touchpad)ff=0 says could not connect to X server, even though the live session is running12:54
guest258415ActionParsnip, for that boot option, let me reboot the laptop, it will take some time :)12:55
ActionParsnipguest258415: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:55
marinelrobin0800, Hmmm what if i could try some other distro? Would this ati rv350 work some older linux?12:55
blazemore_hatmarinel: AMD doesn't support your card on Linux, but the open source drivers provide 2d acceleration12:56
marinelblazemore_hat, i just need youtube to work :)12:57
ActionParsnipmarinel: minitube may help there12:57
robin0800marinel: Last time it worked for me was 8.04 I think which is very old and no longer supported12:57
ActionParsniprobin0800: yes, Hardy is dead and gone12:58
marinelActionParsnip, minitube? ok i will try12:58
troulouliou_devhi how can i output a file extension with file command ?12:58
AlHafoudhhi12:58
AlHafoudhis it possible to have whole disk as root? without partitions...12:58
ocsic-ocsicjoin debian12:59
cfhowlettAlHafoudh, yes but performance will be degraded12:59
AlHafoudhcfhowlett: how is that?12:59
ActionParsniptroulouliou_dev:  basename ./filename.ext | cut -d "." -f 212:59
cfhowlettAlHafoudh, no swap12:59
rigois it enough if i add the ppa upubuntu-com/kernel-amd64, do an update, than dist-upgrade? i mean will be my system up to date?12:59
AlHafoudhcfhowlett: swap will be other disk12:59
cfhowlettAlHafoudh, see, little details like that do matter.  go for it13:00
ActionParsnipAlHafoudh: yes but its neater to have proper partitions13:00
troulouliou_devActionParsnip, no i have a fat32 with all files renames to file.000 file.001 ...13:00
ActionParsniptroulouliou_dev: obviously change./filename.ext for the actual filename13:00
troulouliou_devafter a chkdsk13:00
nicodbI have installed Kubuntu 13.04 with autologin. After installation booting and autologin was OK. Then I've installed Firefox using the Firefox installer in the menu, then installed Teamviewer. During boot I see the KDE splash screen, then the screen turns into stripes. The keyboard is blocked. Any ideas how to fix this? I am currently logged in using a life DVD.13:00
AlHafoudhActionParsnip: well, hypervisor already does LVM, its more flexible for me to not introduce more nesting with partitions13:00
troulouliou_devActionParsnip, so i want at least to recover the fileextension with file13:00
MonkeyDustrigo  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade and your system will be up-to-date, no ppa needed13:00
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ActionParsniptroulouliou_dev: but you said you wanted the file extension, thats what that does13:00
rigosomeone saied, that i need to update the kernel either so i get the latest security updates too13:01
troulouliou_devActionParsnip, yes explaination issue :)13:01
AlHafoudhcfhowlett ActionParsnip the questions is, if ubuntu installer can do this kind of setup13:01
ActionParsniptroulouliou_dev: if you run:   file file.000    it will try and tell you what it is. If you are missing data I suggest you restore from backup13:01
MonkeyDustrigo  the ppa itself can be a security risk13:02
marinelrobin0800, is there also amd/ati gpu list made for nvidia. Just in case if i find other than radeon :).13:02
ZAIIIhello, I'm trying to do it: sudo apt-get install mono-complete13:05
ZAIIIand I see13:05
rigogr8. he saied: update from ppa or u get your system messed up.13:05
ZAIIIE:unable to locate package13:05
ZAIIII did sudo apt-get update13:06
fidel!info mono-complete13:06
rigoi always updated the 12.04 ubuntu to the latest quantal 3.6.3 kernel. from kernel.ubuntu.com did i do something wrong?13:06
ubottumono-complete (source: mono): complete Mono runtime, development tools and all libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.8.1-5ubuntu1 (raring), package size 8 kB, installed size 54 kB13:06
MonkeyDustrigo  a ppa is not screened hence a security risk, try to avoid ppa's as much as possible13:06
rigook anyway i only need ppa for xbmc and tvheadend.13:06
fidelZAIII: package is available - at least for me in 12.0413:06
tadcraziohey guys i'm trying to change the default search engine in the address bar on firefox.. I keep searching and it says to go to about:config and then Keyword.url. I don't seem to have keyword.url Any sugguestions?13:06
robin0800marinel: fx5200 seems to be the lowest card supported13:07
ZAIII))13:07
fideltadcrazio: rightlick the icon in the search bar and select 'manage search engines'13:07
blazemoretadcrazio: If you're sure you don't have keyword.URL you can make it13:07
marinelWho said that minitubue? was it ActionParsnip? Thank you! This works so well :)13:07
blazemorefidel: Search box != address bar13:07
marinelActionParsnip, Thank you!!!13:08
fidelblazemore: was he asking for the address bar?13:08
designbybeck_The Friends app in 13.04 doesn't seem to be to polished? Might there be a similar one to tie into facebook and twitter and the like?13:08
blazemorefidel: Yes13:08
fidelups - sorry then13:08
blazemore:)13:08
rigotadcrazio: u simply give the about:config into the address bar enter, what happens?13:08
marinelrobin0800, i write these down if i need later. Thanks for the help. This is very good place and people are kind :)13:08
tadcrazioRigo  If i type that in then I click the little warning13:09
rigoyep. than there is a search bar under the address bar13:09
tadcrazioand then i search for keyword.url nothing13:09
rigoright?13:09
marinelBye bye all!13:10
blazemoretadcrazio: Just search for keyword13:10
tadcrazioi did13:10
chiquesanyone recommend any good equation formatting app?13:10
rigou shouldnt search with ctrl+F13:10
blazemoretadcrazio: You are using the search bar at the top of about:config, and not the default Firefox ctrl=F dialogue?13:10
tadcrazioI did not search with control+F i searched in the box, When i type in keyword the only thing that shows up is keyword.enabled13:11
tadcrazioCorrect blazemore13:11
blazemoreOK so now right-click and do New13:11
rigothats bad. than create one13:11
blazemorenew->String13:11
rigobut blazemore explains for u :)13:11
tadcraziookay, new-string13:11
blazemoreThe preference name is keyword.URL13:11
blazemoreThe content is https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=13:11
blazemoreor whatever13:11
rigoduckduckgo.com :D13:12
tadcrazioi was going duckduckgo  .. reading its more secure, any other reasons why it should be that?13:12
tadcrazioany idea what i didn't have a keyword.url?13:12
blazemoreNot a clue tadcrazio13:12
blazemoreDuckDuckGo doesn't track you. They tell you more info on their website, it's off-topic here13:13
willybilly0101ddg is not more secure, it's just privacy-orieted13:13
tadcraziothank you13:13
blazemoretadcrazio: Did it work?13:13
tadcrazioit did, just tested it13:14
cfhowlettchiques, libre office math13:14
tadcrazio:)13:14
MonkeyDustduckduckgo: http://donttrack.us/13:14
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setuidHow does one remove the display of users on the login screen? It's not gdm in 13.04, so where do I modify this?13:15
jpdssetuid: /etc/lightdm/13:15
setuidThe default behavior should NEVER  show usernames. Bad, bad bad!13:15
ffiowhen i am starting ubuntu it just gets hanged on the ubuntu logo that is shown.13:15
cfhowlettsetuid, bootup options, user list at boot ...13:15
JuJuBeeyesterday I was trying to troubleshoot why grub wouldn't load.  I plugged my HD into a sata->usb adapter and plugged into laptop.  Syslog reported the following... http://pastebin.com/MLVFHZfV  Looked  like faulty HD so I bought a new one.  Just finished the install and rebooted to same grub error... Error 1513:16
jpdssetuid: Well, when the default is aimmed at a family PC, yeah.13:16
tadcrazioMonkeydust Thanks!13:16
setuidso 'hidden-users' can be '*'?13:16
cfhowlettJuJuBee, I'm betting you're got MBR and more than 4 primary partitions ...13:16
JuJuBeecfhowlett: 4 on one drive? or on all drives?13:17
daviddzzjeehey13:17
cfhowlettJuJuBee, 4 primaries on one driver violated MBR policies ...13:17
JuJuBeecfhowlett: I have 3 HD's13:17
machy, geeks13:17
machy geeks.. i need an terminal line to listen microphone in real time.. i know it is something like loop-back ?13:17
daviddzzjeeyou know13:18
jpdssetuid: greeter-hide-users=true13:18
cfhowlettJuJuBee, little details matter.  make sure your bios points to the correct bootloader and put the bootloader on the correct hdd.  check your setup.  also ... 3 HDD?  OK then.  can be done ...13:18
JuJuBeecfhowlett: Im booting from live again to check partition table13:19
setuidjpds, ugh, no? that leaks the users when you log in as 'guest', and choose 'log out'13:20
setuidother users are shown in the "Switch to <other username>" menu options13:20
jpdssetuid: Right, that's not lightdm.13:21
setuidStill feels like these tools are all bolted on without thought or care13:21
ffiowhen i am starting ubuntu it just gets hanged on the ubuntu logo that is shown. what can be done ?13:21
jpdssetuid: Dude.13:21
jpdssetuid: They're configurable defaults.13:21
ffiohi13:22
machy geeks.. i need an terminal line to listen microphone in real time.. i know it is something like loop-back ?13:22
setuidjpds, If I have to log into a root shell and explicitly disable user-by-user, it's not well thought out.13:22
jpdssetuid: No, you configure it with dconf for all users.13:23
blazemore!patience | mac ffio13:23
ubottumac ffio: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/13:23
setuidsigh? there was a time when Linux was a secure, business tool, now it's just a toy.13:23
blazemoreOfftopic, setuid13:24
angelahi, I just install upstart and created a script for it13:24
angelahow do I make that script run?13:24
ChogyDanmac: are you trying to find a connection in /dev to your sound card?13:24
MonkeyDustsetuid  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion13:24
blazemoreangela: service scriptname start13:24
setuidblazemore, Ubuntu 13.04's configuration and security is off-topic here?13:24
blazemoresetuid: Yes, this is a support channel13:24
ffioblazemore: there was prob with my client after scrolling up i was unable to get down so i didn't knew what i posted.13:25
setuidRead up.13:25
jpdssetuid: Right, you just need to find the right option, looking for it.13:25
JuJuBeeCan someone help me with grub error 15?13:25
setuidjpds, Appreciate the help, I'm digging too.13:25
macChogyDan, hy.. i am newb in linux.. i just need an output of my integrated mic, to be send over line to another comp..13:25
ChogyDanffio: I don't know if it helps, but you can hit esc to swap out the splash screen13:25
setuid Need to find a way to template this at install time also, so I can provision Ubuntu VMs, without leaking user info on the login or menus13:25
blazemoreJuJuBee: Is your BIOS set to boot from the correct drive?13:26
JuJuBeeblazemore: I replaced the drive and not changed bios, so it should be.13:26
jpdssetuid: Yes, put the configuration into a custom package and roll it out to your systems.13:26
setuidjpds, Right, post-install patch13:26
ChogyDanmac: I still don't think I can help, but to clarify, you want to be able to speak into a mircophone on one computer, and have it play on another computer?13:26
JuJuBeeI will reboot to verify13:26
setuidwell, patchES13:26
jpdssetuid: It's how everyone does it.13:27
macyes.. like... hear what u listen..13:27
angelathanks blazemore13:27
MonkeyDustsetuid  modify the system to your needs, then roll it out http://sourceforge.net/projects/uck/13:27
blazemore!upstart > angela13:27
macall other, are just cables.. i know that comand goes like loop-loopback?? in terminal...13:28
ChogyDanmac: is this it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/123798/how-to-hear-my-voice-in-speakers-with-a-mic13:28
ChogyDanmac: pactl load-module module-loopback latency_msec=113:29
JuJuBeeblazemore: seems that was the case.  Only thing I changed was to add my usb stick to the boot order.  Don;t know why it changed the HDD order also.13:29
blazemoreJuJuBee: BIOSes are funny things13:29
savagecrocdoes anyone here run ubuntu on macbook pro hardware.. if so, what's your opinion on performance, reliability etc?13:30
macChogyDan! tnx pactl... this is it!!! thank u very very much13:30
ChogyDanmac: yw13:30
Luzbelitoblazemore: nothing changes. Still without unity13:30
JuJuBeeThanks13:30
blazemoreLuzbelito: I guess you could go the nuclear approach: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop13:31
blazemoreLuzbelito: Especially since it's doing it for all users.13:31
setuidIn 12.04, this works: gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type Boolean --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list True13:32
setuidIn 13.04, it's a lightdm.conf poke13:32
ChogyDanblazemore: Luzbelito: more nuclear: `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^`13:33
JuJuBeeblazemore: so I thought I would put my old HD back in and boot.  I got the brub boot menu but when I try to boot ubuntu I get busybox with (initramfs) prompt13:33
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ffioChogyDan: i am getting error as : /proc/self/fd/9: 5: /proc/self/fd/9: initctl not found13:34
Luzbelitoit says ubuntu/desktop is in its most recent version13:34
jpdssetuid: You should be using 12.04 LTS for production environment, anyway.13:34
setuidjpds, I am, but I'm also testing 13.04, so the jump is based on known changes, not surprisesd13:34
ChogyDanLuzbelito: try the command I just gave13:34
setuidhence, pulling these into VMs under ESX13:34
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Luzbelitochogydan: ubuntu[desktop is in its most recent version"13:36
ChogyDanLuzbelito: you should get a lot more output if you keep the ^13:36
Luzbelitooh, ok13:37
rigo88if i install the fglrx driver, do the aticonfig-steps, and reboot, the icons are large, and the video driver is "unknown"13:37
ChogyDaneveryone thinks it is a typo when I give that command  :)13:37
rigo88simply sudo apt-get install fglrx13:38
JuJuBeeLooks like my old hd is bad... bios doesn't even see it now.. :(13:38
ffiofor me initctl is broken how can i fix it ?13:39
Luzbelitoamazing! uninstalling and reinstalling a lot of packages!13:39
netQTHello. Does someone know how can I pass password as a parameter for sshfs?13:39
ChogyDanffio: I don't think that is what that means.  I think it just means it can't find /proc/self/fd/9.  That IS the initctrl13:39
jpdsnetQT: Use a password-less SSH key instead?13:39
Luzbelitofinished. Should I reboot now?13:40
blazemorenetQT: You can't, use key-based authentication instead13:40
netQTnow I can do that?13:40
netQTdo I have to add something in server?13:40
ChogyDanLuzbelito: I'm assuming you haven't removed your kernel?  So yeah, you can restart13:41
Luzbelitook rebooting...13:41
LuzbelitoI hope so. The situation is that i can't use the unity environment. It says no tray system detected on this system, exiting.13:42
Luzbelitoi'm now logged in enlightement environment13:42
ChogyDanffio: were you working on an upstart script?13:42
Luzbelitorebooting13:42
ChogyDanLuzbelito: that's fine kernel wise13:42
ChogyDanffio: I missed the part about how your computer stopped booting13:43
ffioChogyDan: i was following customizing livecd.13:43
ffioand by mistake i exected this commands13:43
ffioChogyDan: rm /sbin/initctl13:46
ffiodpkg-divert --rename --remove /sbin/initctl13:46
jayeshhi I sm trying to connect to a airtel 4g lte to my ubuntu 12.04 box but its connected but i cant browse anything.13:46
ffioinstead executing in the chroot env i executed in my ubuntu host machine13:46
ChogyDanffio: I don't know anything about that.  Are you just trying to repair ubuntu?13:47
ffioChogyDan: after executing those command my ubuntu was showing that it has unexpectedly closed and needs to restart and i restarted and got stuck.13:48
ffioChogyDan: right now i am trying to repair it13:48
ChogyDanffio: if you are trying to repair your ubuntu install, you may need to use a livecd, chroot into your disk, and reinstall upstart13:48
synth_guys, is there a way I can install ubuntu 12.01 WITHOUT installing video card drivers?13:48
synth_*12.0413:48
ChogyDansynth_: do you want a gui?13:49
ffioChogyDan: from ubuntu advance option, i was able to get the root promt13:49
synth_ok let me rephrase it,13:49
synth_Can I install ubuntu 12.04 WITHOUT it AUTOMATICALLY INSTALLING my ATI drivers and just use the generic one?13:49
ChogyDanffio: see if you can reinstall upstart, that is what /sbin/initctrl is a part of13:49
Senor_If I reinstall my kernel of other version ,does this mean I give up the current version ?13:50
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synth_Because when I installed Ubuntu 9.10 it did not automatically Install my ATI drivers13:50
synth_heck it didnt even detect my video card13:50
synth_I'm installing it on a lappy with an AMD Radeon HD 637013:51
ChogyDanSenor_: it should just install them side by side.  But then it is tricky picking the one you want at bootup13:51
ffioChogyDan: apt-get --reinstall upstart right ?13:51
ActionParsnipsynth_: could try the legacy ppa13:51
ChogyDanffio: apt-get install --reinstall...13:52
SentryABhey13:53
OerHekssynth ah, you have a hybrid GPU, intel and ati > http://askubuntu.com/questions/252872/cant-find-ati-mobility-radeon-hd-6370-driver-for-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit-on-hp-pavi13:53
TJ-synth_: If I recall correctly, during install there's an option to "Download updates" and "Install drivers" (might be hidden in an advanced menu) which by default are enabled. I recall un-checking the tick-boxes to avoid both during a VM installation test.13:53
Senor_ChogyDan:what is the exact meaning ?13:54
SentryABI have an HTPC running XBMC on lightdm, would it be possible to start firefox from a different tty and display it on top of XBMC on tty7?13:54
ActionParsnipSentryAB: could try:  export DISPLAY=0.0 firefox13:55
ActionParsnipSentryAB: might need a semicolon before 'firefox'13:55
SkizuSo I've just updated php I believe, and I'm now getting a message saying: "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress."13:55
SentryABActionParsnip, ok thanks, I'll give it a try :)13:56
synth_TJ I do remember having the option about the updates but i dont recall the drivers, i need to check on that. Thank you13:56
fidelSkizu: check phpinfo() - at least thats a first easy way to check your env13:56
TJ-synth_: I remember it since when I disabled "Download Updates" but left the "Install drivers" the installer got stuck - it didn't figure out to *not* try to download the non-free drivers!13:57
SkizuOk a moment fidel13:57
synth_I see, but the thing is, i don't want it to not install Wifi, sound, etc, drivers, i just want it to not install the graphics drivers13:58
CyraxWhen i install using wget .. how to i uninstall?13:58
Skizufidel appears to be the case, I selected lamp when I installed so off that it'd not got it :s anyway to install mysql I guess?13:59
TJ-synth_: I'm not sure, but there may have been the option to select which non-free drivers to install, but the memory is hazy now13:59
rhin0try lighttpd for a easier configurable web server14:00
angelahi, I'm having some trouble running an upstart script14:00
ChogyDanSkizu: you can redo the lamp install with sudo apt-get install lamp-server^   yes, a ^14:00
TJ-Cyrax: You don't 'install' using wget - wget simply fetches files from a network location14:00
synth_TJ its fine, no biggie, thanks for the suggestion and will definitely try it14:00
Cyraxwell.. how do i remove it?14:00
angelathe paste is available here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981286/14:00
angelawhen I start the service, it would say start with some pid, but when I do ps aux I can't see it14:01
CyraxI need to get rid of Unrealircd3.2.8.114:01
blazemoreangela: even when you do "sudo ps aux"? Just checking14:01
angelaand forever list would result in no jobs running14:01
angelablazemore: yes, because I'm logged in as root14:01
Senor_ChogyDan: for example , my current kernel is ubuntu~precise ,after I reinstall ubuntu generic , does it mean I have lost the precise version?14:01
ChogyDanSenor_: no, kernels install side by side.  They don't get uninstalled till you do that14:02
SkizuHow do I change my keyboard for the server as it thinks I've a US keyboard not a UK keyboard, so i can't do them beautiful backslashes14:03
TJ-Cyrax: If you executed an installer that was downloaded you'd need to consult its documentation. If you only downloaded a file, then just delete it.14:03
blazemoreSkizu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data14:03
SkizuChogyDan I tried that, but it says E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages14:04
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install14:04
Senor_ChogyDan:I do not understand what meaning of "side by side "14:05
ChogyDanSkizu: ?  can you pastebin the whole error?14:05
SkizuHow do I select text?14:05
ChogyDanSenor_: concurrently.  at the same time.  simultaneous14:05
blazemoreSkizu: After you do update; -f install, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration14:06
Skizublazemore I don't have console-data it says14:06
blazemoreSkizu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration14:06
SkizuALso when I do the update it stated 6 not upgraded14:06
synth_ok i got my phone in the channel i will try the reinstallation14:07
Senor_ChogyDan:So my host will exist a couple of OS ?14:07
SkizuAny idea what I want to select blazemore?14:07
blazemoreNo Skizu ... it's your keyboard14:07
ChogyDanSenor_: you can have several kernels installed at the same time, no prob14:07
Skizublazemore my keyboard isn't in the list :D14:08
Cyraxthanks14:08
blazemoreSkizu: Generic 105-key, and then English UK14:08
SkizuThanks, font changed too14:09
SkizuSo is there a way for me to select text in ssh :s?14:10
CyraxI did do wget .. but I can't find a way to remove Unreal3.2.8.1.tar.gz14:10
blazemoreSkizu: With your mouse14:10
blazemoreCyrax: wget just downloads a file from the internet14:10
blazemoreCyrax: can't you just do "rm Unreal3.2.8.1.tar.gz" ?14:10
Skizumy mouse isn't doing anything at all :s14:10
Senor_ChogyDan:then my host is working on which OS?14:10
blazemoreSkizu: it depends what terminal you're using14:10
SkizuRight I'll type it all out haha14:11
blazemoreSuit yourself :)14:11
ChogyDanSenor_: by default, it will start with the latest kernel14:11
blazemoreLike my mother with her spreadsheet on her PC, and her calculator by her side14:11
ffioChogyDan: chrooted into my machine followed the steps now rebooting :D14:11
sendaljepittest14:12
ChogyDanffio: gl14:13
Or6itzHey all, I am looking for some help with a mod_rewrite issue on my new Ubuntu server.14:13
Or6itzI just migrated from a managed HostGator server to a self-managed Digital Ocean server. After the migration, one of my sites started doing some strange things with mod_rewrite.14:14
Skizuhttp://pastebin.com/JmHx26rE14:14
TJ-Skizu: If you need to select text, start 'screen' and then use its copy buffer, etc.14:14
blazemoreSkizu: What did you do? How did you install apache?14:14
Or6itzFor instance, this rule works: RewriteRule ^movies/?$ movies.php?%{QUERY_STRING} [L]14:14
Or6itzThis rule doesn't: RewriteRule ^movies/([a-zA-Z0-9_-]+)/?$ /movies-view.php?slug=$1 [L]14:14
Senor_ChogyDan:does this result in several menu at grub menulist ?14:14
Or6itzThe non working rule is located above the working rule. They were all working just fine on the old server. Could it be something with the RegEx and $1?14:15
blazemoreOr6itz: I'd recommend asking in #apache to be honest14:15
SkizuErm was an option when installing ubuntu?14:15
ChogyDanSenor_: the menu entries are there, though they might be hidden14:15
SkizuLAMP14:15
blazemoreSkizu: Try "sudo apt-get -f install"14:15
ChogyDanSkizu: can you please pastebin the entire command and output?14:15
Or6itzblazemore: Thanks, I am not getting a response in that channel.14:15
Senor_ChogyDan:reinstall one kernel does not add one entry at grub.conf?14:16
Skizublazemore I get 0 updated, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.14:16
ChogyDanSenor_: not on that latest versions, no14:16
blazemoreSkizu: What was giving you that error then?14:16
SkizuChogyDan it doesn't have a pointer I can't select it14:16
Or6itzblazemore: I asked in the #httpd channel, but the #apache channel I have to be invited to.14:17
blazemoreOr6itz: I think #apache redirects to #httpd14:17
TJ-Skizu: Your problem is, you've installed a custom PPA package of apache from Ondřej Surý (by the version string). That conflicts with the main archive versions. You need to remove the custom PPA package(s)14:17
Senor_ChogyDan:Do you know the ~precise version of ubuntu ?14:17
SkizuIt's just that the code requires mysql to be installed but for some reason isn't getting installed14:17
blazemoreSkizu: So when I said "what did you do?" you *actually* meant "installed third-party builds of Apache from an untrusted source"?14:18
SkizuErm, how do I do this?14:18
ChogyDanSkizu: TJ- is probably right14:18
blazemoreSkizu: How did you install it?14:18
TJ-Skizu: Unless there are 2 PPAs using the same versioning, it'll be this: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/apache214:18
blazemoreSkizu: Are you the person who was in here earlier asking about PHP5.4?14:18
ffioChogyDan: done thanks for the help :)14:18
SkizuI've not installed apache apart from from the ubunutu install14:18
ChogyDanffio: great!  glad it worked14:18
Skizublazemore indeed I am14:18
TJ-Skizu: You have apache 2.4 installed (probably to get PFC functionality) but the main archive only contains apache 2.214:19
blazemoreSkizu: OK so do this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit14:19
blazemoreTJ-: It's OK I told him to add that PPA I'll take this one14:19
TJ-Skizu: What does this show? "grep -i ppa /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"  ?14:19
* TJ- has to go ... hope you can track it down now14:19
blazemoreTJ-: I know exactly what it's going to show because I told him to add that PPA a few hours ago14:20
Skizublazemore done that14:20
blazemoreSkizu: OK now do14:20
blazemoresudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit14:20
blazemoreIt will give you a url, tell me what the url is14:20
Skizuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/598135114:21
SynthMobile_This is really weird. Sometimes I get diaplay on my laptop lcd and sometimesni dont.. Is this an hardware issue?..14:21
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blazemoreSkizu: exactly what did you run to give you this error? http://pastebin.com/JmHx26rE14:22
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Skizusudo apt-get install lamp-server^14:23
blazemoreSkizu: Did you do that before or after adding the PPA I told you about earlier?14:23
SkizuAfter14:23
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shamserver irc.synirc.net14:24
blazemoreDid you already have lamp-server installed before then14:24
SkizuIf when you select lamp server in setup that's what it does yes, else no14:24
geniiSkizu: There is no package called lamp-server. You want instead to run tasksel and then choose from there what server pieces you want.14:24
blazemoregenii: lamp-server^ is fine14:25
genii!info lamp-server14:25
ubottuPackage lamp-server does not exist in raring14:25
blazemoreit's not...14:25
blazemoreit's special14:25
blazemoreHence the ^14:25
geniiblazemore: Ah, I see now from PPA after checking backscroll more carefully.14:25
blazemoreNo genii, sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ will work without any PPA14:26
blazemoretry it14:26
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ -y | pastebinit14:26
geniiblazemore: "E: Unable to locate package lamp-server"   :-)14:27
Skizuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5981374/14:27
ActionParsnip!info lamp-server14:27
ubottuPackage lamp-server does not exist in raring14:27
Picigenii: your shell might be eating the ^, you may need to put quotes around it.14:27
geniiActionParsnip: Yes, exactly.14:27
ikillcypheruh14:28
geniiPici: Hm, interesting.14:28
ikillcypherhow to download : https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common and replace it with mine at xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common ?14:28
ikillcypherusing bash commands ?14:28
blazemorefor me, without any PPA, sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ performs as expected14:29
ActionParsnipwget https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common    then cp it over14:29
SkizuWas fine for me too, apart from the conflict14:29
blazemorelook http://pastebin.com/4AA12RC014:30
blazemorecomes from rory@pc00433 ~ $ sudo apt-get -sy install lamp-server^ | pastebinit14:30
ikillcypherActionParsnip, you sure that will replace mine14:32
ikillcypher?14:32
ikillcyphercant I do wget https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common cp /xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common ?14:32
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ikillcyphercant I do wget https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common cp /xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common ?14:35
ikillcyphero.o14:35
herohi guys14:35
ActionParsnipikillcypher: if that is the mount point then yes, you will need:  wget -O /xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common14:36
ActionParsnipikillcypher: the -O option (o)utputs it to where you say14:36
ActionParsnipikillcypher: if you get access denied then add 'sudo'14:36
ikillcypherso if I do wget14:36
ikillcypherso if I do wget at /xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common it will download and replace?14:37
ActionParsnipikillcypher: not sure, might make a file at the side with a number in brackets14:37
ikillcypherhonestly so how do I download and replace that copy with mine14:38
ikillcypher?14:38
SkizuSorry back, so blazemore any ideas?14:38
ActionParsnipikillcypher: i believe if you use the -O option it will overwrite14:38
ikillcypherso the final command is  ikillcypher@ikillcypher:~/xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common$ wget -O https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common14:39
ikillcypher??14:39
SkizuSo it seems like I've an issue with mysql as it thinks I don't have it so I have to start mysql or something?14:40
blazemoreSkizu: I'm not entirely sure what issue you're having?14:40
SkizuNo mysql installed but said it was?14:40
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.514:41
ikillcyphero.o14:41
ikillcypherActionParsnip, :(14:42
ikillcyphernot working14:42
ikillcypherikillcypher@ikillcypher:~/xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common$ wget -O https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common14:42
ikillcypherwget: missing URL14:42
ikillcypherUsage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...14:42
Skizublazemore the only mention of mysql in phpinfo is MySQLZeev Suraski, Zak Greant, Georg Richter, Andrey Hristov14:43
SkizuCan't get a version number or anything?14:43
blazemoreSkizu: OK now I'm really confused14:43
Piciikillcypher: thats not the command that ActionParsnip told you to use.14:43
ActionParsnipikillcypher: could use web browser to pull it down. Maybe the site doesnt like wget14:43
blazemoreSkizu: Can you run "mysql" on the commandline?14:43
ikillcypherhow :(14:44
heroguys,has anybody used neroAacEnc yet on ubuntu?14:44
ikillcypherim not good with bash commands14:44
blazemore!anyone | hero14:44
ubottuhero: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:44
blazemoreikillcypher: "use the web browser"14:44
Piciikillcypher: I'm sorry to say, but this isn't a 'bash commands' problem, its a following directions problem :(14:44
ikillcypherwhat you mean use web browser14:44
blazemoreikillcypher: To save the file14:44
blazemoreikillcypher: All wget does is save a file14:44
Skizublazemore any function I can use to test?14:44
ikillcypheris there not command to download and replace ?14:45
blazemoreikillcypher: "man wget"14:45
Piciikillcypher: wget -O output_file http://url14:45
Skizublazemore appears to work?14:46
ikillcypherso man wget ikillcypher@ikillcypher:~/xperiatouch/device/sony/fusion3-common$ wget -O https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common14:46
ikillcypherwget: missing URL14:46
ikillcypherUsage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...14:46
ikillcypherwtf14:46
blazemoreikillcypher: Read the command you typed in14:46
blazemoreikillcypher: Understand what you are asking it to do14:46
blazemoreikillcypher: wget -O filename http://url14:46
ikillcyphermissing url ?14:46
blazemoreikillcypher: that will download http://url to a file called "filename"14:46
blazemoreyou're asking wget to download *something* to a file called "https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common" but you haven't told it what to download14:47
ikillcypherdownload everything14:47
blazemoreikillcypher: The answer you're looking for btw is14:47
ikillcypherand replace with mine14:47
blazemorewget -O android_device_sony_fusion3-common https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common14:47
ikillcypherthat will download everything and replace with mine ?14:47
ikillcypherdoes that means i have to be at dir to do that14:48
blazemoreit will download https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common to a file called android_device_sony_fusion3-common in whatever directory you're in when you run it14:48
Picifyi: "https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common" is an html page, its likely not what you want.14:48
ikillcypherdo I need to croot ?14:48
ikillcypherI want to download everything inside there?14:48
blazemoreikillcypher: Why don't you back Riiiiight up and start with what you're *actually* trying to achieve14:48
SkizuHow the freak do I find out what version mysql things it's running as I can't get mysql to do anything just keeps giving me ->14:48
Piciikillcypher: you need to either clone it with git or download the zip file that they provide on that webpage.14:49
blazemoreikillcypher: You want the contents of that git repository?14:49
ikillcypherof cause o.o14:49
blazemoreikillcypher: There's a button on that site that says "download zip" on the right14:49
PiciSkizu: mysql -V14:49
SkizuAnd any idea why PHP is thinking there's no mysql there? :D14:50
PiciSkizu: do you have the php mysql module installed?14:50
MonkeyDustSkizu  it's 5.5 in 13.0414:50
blazemoreuse your mouse to move the arrow-shaped cursor on your screen until the pointed part is over the button saying "Download ZIP". using your index finger, press the left mouse button. Left is this direction <--14:50
blazemoreikillcypher: ^14:50
SkizuPici how do I know if a module is installed?14:50
abradleyIs there a way to make me root all of the time? I keep running into issues where I have to figure out how to get around the security precautions. I'm running a sandbox machine in a vm so messing something up isn't an issue. Rollback takes 10 seconds.14:51
MonkeyDust!noroot | abradley14:51
ubottuabradley: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.14:51
holsteinabradley: sudo is how you 'get around'14:51
gordonjcpabradley: "sudo -i" but it's not a good idea14:51
blazemoreabradley: if you're sure, it's "sudo -s", but please read this ^14:51
gordonjcpabradley: what exactly are you trying to do?14:51
blazemoreabradley: But running as root is generally A Bad Thing14:51
gordonjcproot is obsolete14:52
gordonjcpsudo has been around for 20 years14:52
gordonjcpdon't use root14:52
abradleyI'm working in a 12.04 vm with a sandbox webserver. I'm having the dickens of a time extracting to /var/www/14:52
SkizuHow do I install a mysql module for php ._.?14:52
heroguys who has run neroAacEnc on ubuntu? I have run it with no problem on centos, but when I try to run it on ubuntu i get this error: "-bash: ./neroAacEnc: No such file or directory"14:52
abradley * vm = virtual machine14:52
PiciSkizu: see if apt-cache policy php5-mysql   says its installed14:52
gordonjcpabradley: then set your permissions up correctly14:52
gordonjcpabradley: and you shouldn't be manually extracting stuff to /var/www anyway in a sane setup14:52
abradleygordonjcp, I'm definitely a newbie.14:53
holsteini used to just extract, and sudo mv what i wanted there14:53
gordonjcpabradley: okay, are you familiar with how Unix permissions work?14:53
abradleyI'm trying out some different open source helpdesk systems for my company. How should I extract?14:53
SkizuPici appears so http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981475/14:53
MonkeyDustabradley  a newbie shouldnt be root14:53
gordonjcpabradley: what holstein says; extract in your homedir and sudo mv14:53
abradleygordonjcp, thanks14:53
gordonjcpabradley: or, add yourself to www-data and ensure it's group-writeable14:54
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PiciSkizu: Thats via some PPA. We have no way of confirming that it provides exactly what you need for your version of PHP.14:54
Skizublazemore told me to xD14:54
SkizuJeez so damn lost14:54
Luzbelito.... still no solution for my dead-unity14:54
ikillcypheryou guys made my life so hard14:54
ikillcypher>:(14:54
blazemoreikillcypher: Don't even go there, please14:55
herono one can help me?14:55
blazemorehero: Does the "neroAacEnc" file exist in the directory you're currently in?14:55
SkizuWe're all in the same boat, learning sucks but we gotta do it lol14:55
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heroyea14:55
blazemoreSkizu: Would you like instructions to purge that PPA and revert to the default Ubuntu package versions?14:55
herofile both available and executable with chmod +x14:56
SkizuDoes default have php5.5 ?14:56
blazemoreSkizu: No14:56
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Skizu5.4?14:56
blazemorehero: Can you please post the output of running the command "ls" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com14:56
blazemoreI think it's 5.314:56
Pici!info php5 precise14:57
ubottuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB14:57
Luzbelitothis is the situation: I use ubuntu 13.04. Yesterday after boot a log appeared: no system tray found on the system.  exiting. and there I am without dash or upper panel14:57
herono pastebin needed,there is only 1 file in this directory.. :P14:57
hero-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 910988 Feb 18  2010 neroAacEnc14:57
LuzbelitoTried a lot of solutions, and nothing14:58
SkizuI need 5.4+, worth reverting and then trying again from the begining?14:58
SkizuNeed 5.4 for my traits :(14:58
reprapreprap14:58
Picireprap: /join #reprap14:58
Luzbelitoat least could login with enlightenemt enviroment, but I really want to repair Unity...14:58
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FloodBot1NedFlanders: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:58
blazemorehero: chown hero: neroAacEnc14:59
blazemorehero: assuming "hero" is your username14:59
SkizuBot took no time there14:59
blazemorehero: or you can do "sudo ./neroAacEnc"14:59
blazemoreSkizu: Bot doesn't mess around14:59
heroblaze,i'm root... :P15:00
Skizublazemore: true that, so any ideas on my issue and how to resolve my odd errors15:00
blazemorehero: output of "file neroAacEnc"15:00
blazemoreSkizu: What Ubuntu version are you on?15:00
peteobooting 12.04.2 desktop i386  from a USB and I get to the Ubuntu loading screen and ti just stops loading and I have no I dea what to do.15:00
herofile neroAacEnc15:00
hero"eroAacEnc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped"15:01
hero"NeroAacEnc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped"15:01
blazemorehero: Are you on a 64-bit system?15:01
heroyup15:01
heroi guess15:02
blazemoreoutput of "uname -a"?15:02
hero"Linux lvps91-250-114-216.dedicated.hosteurope.de 2.6.18-028stab101.1 #1 SMP Sun Jun 24 19:50:48 MSD 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux"15:02
heroshould be 6415:02
blazemoresudo apt-get install ia32-libs15:02
blazemorethen it will work15:02
herowoot!thanks... :)15:04
herosolved problem.. :)15:04
blazemorenp hero15:04
Skizublazemore: Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:04
blazemoreSkizu: output of "cat /etc/issue" ?15:04
foofoobarHi. I have a strange "bug". I'm run "arecord" from my source code to record something. This works without any problem. However, if I execute "mplayer mysound.mp3" before the execution of arecord, then arecord only records silence15:05
foofoobarHow can this be?15:05
cornfeedhobodoes anyone know where gpg store keys?15:05
Skizublazemore: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l15:05
foofoobarI guess because there is such a little delay between playing a sound and start recording there is some "overlap" or something which confused my sound driver?15:05
blazemoreSkizu: wget https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+build/4032648/+files/ppa-purge_0.2.8%2Bbzr57%2Bedgers1_all.deb15:06
blazemoreSkizu: sudo dpkg -i ppa-purge_0.2.8+bzr57+edgers1_all.deb15:07
SkizuHow to paste into  ubunutu15:07
blazemoreCtrl Shift V15:07
blazemoreSkizu: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ondrej/php515:08
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade15:08
somsipSkizu: take care with that - it will now give you php5.5 which will also force an upgrade to apache2.415:09
blazemoresomsip: Read15:09
blazemoreppa-purge15:09
somsipblazemore: so it is...15:09
eduhatI just got a VPS with gnome preinstalled allocated to me. Why is it not allowing me to update anything? Seems stuck on connecting to archive.ubuntu.com15:09
blazemoresomsip: :315:09
eduhatI can ping the domain though15:10
daftykinseduhat: DNS resolution ok?15:10
blazemoreeduhat: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" from the terminal?15:10
abradleydoes anyone have experience with and recommend a self-hosted helpdesk ticket system?15:10
blazemoreeduhat: There's not a proxy you're supposed to connect through?15:10
blazemore!ot | abradley15:10
ubottuabradley: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:10
abradleyI'm sorry15:10
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eduhatblazemore: I have root access.15:10
eduhatdaftykins: yea. I can ping archive.ubuntu.com just fine15:11
Skizublazemore: Errors were encountered while processing: ppa-purger_0.2.8+bzr57+edgers1_all.deb15:11
daftykinseduhat: wouldn't hurt to back up that config and try some more specific local ones *shrug*15:11
blazemoreSkizu: pastebin the full error please15:11
eduhatdaftykins: ok15:11
frezehi all, is it safe to upgrade the kernel on ubuntu LTS? Will system stability be compromised15:12
blazemorefreze: It's safe to upgrade to the latest kernel which is in the repositories15:12
eduhatdaftykins: it seems to hang for like 2 minutes and then begins to work.15:12
ActionParsnipfreze: you can get the 3.5 kernel from backports repo15:12
SkizuWait blazemore I think it worked, what was "it"15:13
daftykinseduhat: most VPS' setups have a locally based repo that doesn't incur traffic penalties15:13
ZAIIIhi, I try to install mono in ubuntu server 11.4, but don't have possibility to download packages when I do "sudo apt-get update"15:13
eduhatdaftykins: makes sense.15:13
ActionParsnipZAIII: Natty is no longer supported15:13
ZAIIIperhaps exist the possibility to download manually some packages of mono15:13
eduhatdaftykins: sucks I have to wait though!15:13
daftykinseduhat: wait?15:13
daftykinsoh for the delay15:13
ZAIIIand what can I do? I'm need mono...15:13
blazemoreSkizu: "it" was using a third-party tool called "ppa-purge" to remove everything from that PPA I gave you earlier15:13
ActionParsnipZAIII: your release is dead. I recommend a clean install of Precise which is LTS and supported til April 201715:14
blazemoreSkizu: There's clearly some weirdness going on with your system, and throwing a PPA into the mix won't help15:14
eduhatdaftykins: it has gnome pre installed. what would you use to access the XServer15:14
Skizuphp still things there's no mysql15:14
ZAIIIyes but I rented a VPS with ubuntu 11.415:14
ZAIII:((15:14
ActionParsnipZAIII: its not supported15:14
blazemoreWell that was silly of you ZAIII15:14
daftykinsdaftykins: i wouldn't really use a VPS graphically, but you could enable built-in remote desktop support which would permit a VNC client to connect in i guess15:14
Skizublazemore still thinks it's php 5.5.1-....15:15
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade15:15
blazemoreSkizu: then this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981561/15:15
ActionParsnipZAIII: its like renting a VPS running Windows 2000 and wondering where updates and support is15:16
ZAIIIok :((15:16
ZAIIIwow15:16
ZAIII:D15:16
Skizublazemore I gotta type that all out haha dang15:16
ZAIIII'm impressed15:16
blazemoreSkizu: tab-completion is your friend :P15:16
eduhatdaftykins: its wierd. I set this VPS up because the connection is much faster. So I need to use this to download a 1.1GB file off the HP website (uses a javascript link). Then i'm going to scp it to my server15:17
ActionParsnipZAIII: I'd contact them and ask why they are selling dead releases15:17
daftykinseduhat: HP? D:15:17
eduhatdaftykins: tell me about it :(15:18
eduhatdaftykins: i have to install this huge management app.15:18
PrufrockWhy am I not able to set a song stored on my external SD card as a ringtone? :\15:18
ikoniaeduhat: this isn't the pro-lient service package is it ?15:18
eduhatdaftykins: its going to monitor all the hardware and notify me of any failures in the raid controller and such15:18
ikoniaPrufrock: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?15:18
blazemore!offtopic | Prufrock what on earth made you think this was the right place to ask15:18
ubottuPrufrock what on earth made you think this was the right place to ask: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:18
eduhatikonia: yes. HP Systems Insight Manager15:18
daftykinseduhat: ah ok, i've done that with 3ware/LSI controllers. 3DM2.15:19
n-iCewhere is the ubuntu ccache path?15:19
Prufrockikonia, Opps! Wrong channel. Sorry. By mistake.15:19
daftykinsn-iCe: /var/cache/apt/archives/15:19
ikoniaeduhat: insit is ok - but be careful of the kernel modules they put in, use the local kernel ones, not the psp supplied ones15:19
blazemoren-iCe: Different applications have different caches15:19
MonkeyDustn-iCe  in ~/.cache15:19
Skizublazemode http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981571/15:19
blazemoreSkizu: you know you can just type bl[TAB]15:19
eduhatikonia: is there any better software then using HP's. I'd almost prefer some cli tool along with grep15:19
blazemoreSkizu: It's a good thing I have hilights for common typos of my nick :)15:20
* Skizu has learnt to use IRC a little more15:20
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get -f install15:20
ikoniaeduhat: most of HP's are cli-tools, with a daemon for a web interface, they are very very good, just be careful of the kernel modules, as HP don't maintain them quick enough for releases/updates, so use the ones shipped with your kernel15:20
Skizublazemore: E: Command line option 'i' [from -install] is not known15:21
eduhatikonia: ok. thanks for the "insight" lol :)15:21
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get -f install15:21
ikoniaeduhat: have you actually researched this before installing it ?15:21
ikoniaeduhat: you're aware of what it changes and how ?15:21
frezeOk well  uname -r: 2.6.32-042stab078.28   and  uname -v: #1 SMP Mon Jul 8 10:17:22 MSK 201315:21
frezeHow would I go about upgrading? BTW it is a vps running under openvz virutalization15:21
eduhatikonia: yes a little. seems very involved.15:21
ikoniaeduhat: I very strongly suggest you look at what each package does BEFORE installing them15:22
Skizublazemore: my bad 0 upgraded, 0 installed 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded15:22
eduhatikonia: im installing it on a test system before anything15:22
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blzHello.  How can I play VP70 video files (in a .avi container) on ubuntu 13.04?15:23
blazemoreSkizu: What exact command did you run to get this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981571/15:23
Skizublazemore: WE ARE THERE!15:23
blzI get sound but no video15:23
blazemoreblz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras15:23
daftykinsfreze: you're going to want to look at your VPS provider's documentation15:23
Skizublazemore: that was the paste you gave me which caused that error15:23
blzblazemore, already installed15:24
Skizublazemore: But I'm 5.5 and mysql is there15:24
blazemoreOK on your server press Up until you get to that long command again15:24
blazemoreThis time change it so instead of "install --reinstall" it says "remove"15:24
SkizuAnd then15:24
blazemoreSo you will be uninstalling all those packages15:24
blazemoreAnd then do the first one again to install them15:25
blzHello.  How can I play VP70 video files (in a .avi container) on ubuntu 13.04?  I get sound but no video and `ubuntu-restricted-extras` is already installed.15:25
SkizuTaking a while to remove them15:25
ActionParsnipblz: install vlc, gnome-mplayer and w32codecs (from medibuntu) (I assume 32bit OS)15:25
Skizublazemore: should it take like 1minute+ ?15:26
blazemoreSkizu: It's going to take a little while15:26
blzActionParsnip, 64-bit os, but will-do15:26
ActionParsnipblz: then w64codecs15:26
eduhatikonia: would you even suggest using this HPSIM stuff?15:27
Skizublazemore: So what we're doing now is uninstalling so we can find out?15:27
Skizublazemore: would it have been a good idea to stop the services first?15:28
blazemoreActionParsnip: sudo apt-get install w`lscpu | grep "\-bit" | awk '{print $NF}' | cut -d "-" -f 1`codecs15:29
blazemoreSkizu: It can't uninstall them without stopping them15:29
blazemoreSomeone correct me if I'm wrong15:29
blazemoreSkizu: It certainly couldn't hurt to reboot in between if you want to be sure :)15:29
SkizuSo it'll stop them itself?15:29
robin_debspaceHello everyone! I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 Server on a HP ProLiant server. However I am completely blind and attempting to install using a Braille display, not a screen.15:29
blazemoreSkizu: yes15:30
SkizuCTRL C to cancel right?15:30
robin_debspaceBasically, I would need to boot from CD, get to the boot prompt and launch brltty from there which would activate Braille support. But how do I get to the boot command line?15:30
blzActionParsnip, installed w64codecs and I'm still getting the same issue15:30
hayerrobin_debspace lol hahhaa15:30
blazemoreyes but wait, why are you cancelling Skizu15:30
blzActionParsnip, VLC fails saying that it can't play vp70 (and that there's nothing I can do about it)15:30
hayerrobin_debspace: wait, are you serious?15:31
frezedaftykins: why's that? I'm thinking of upgrading to  linux-image-3.8.0-27-generic -  Linux kernel image for version 3.8.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP15:31
blzActionParsnip, and mplayer searches for the codec and then gives up, playing audio only15:31
SkizuWell it's still hanging on the remove?15:31
blazemoreSkizu: hanging on what?15:31
daftykinsfreze: sure you don't have to stick to openvz specific kernels?15:31
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Skizublazemore: sudo apt-get remove ....15:31
robin_debspacehayer: Of course I am, why would I be asking such a question if I wasn't?...15:31
blazemoreSkizu: Yeah but what's the bottom-most line on the screen right now?15:32
Skizu_15:32
Skizublazemore: just a _15:32
blazemoreSkizu: Is there anything else at all on the screen?15:32
SkizuThe command above it15:32
blazemoreerm... weird. Yeah try cancelling and running it again15:33
blazemoreI think your server is possibly posessed, Skizu you might need a priest not a sysadmin15:33
robin_debspaceI need to either get to the boot prompt command line to invoke brltty, or have a way of installing remotely, e.g. using SSH if possible15:33
* hayer laughs15:33
ffiois it possible to install xfce without ubuntu branding ?15:33
danleedoes anyone know how to restart the sound server of 12.04? The sound server gets problem after playing minecraft15:33
icelitehi all15:33
frezedaftykins: Hmmm not sure if that is important/relevant. Probably more important is to ensure that the kernel is for virtual machines and that it has SMP15:33
blazemoreI'm not sure how to do that robin_debspace but I know you can pre-prepare an image for automatic installation15:34
daftykinsfreze: fair enough ;) just checking15:34
Skizublazemore: Sorted it removed it all now15:34
Skizublazemore: What next boss15:34
blazemoreWhat you just did, but with "install" instead of "remove" :)15:35
blazemorewait15:35
blazemorerun sudo apt-get update first15:35
frezedaftykins: but to be honest I'm not sure15:35
daftykinsfreze: read up the docs then :)15:35
gezhyjust a test15:35
robin_debspaceblazemore: Thanks for the info. There's some documentation on how to enable brltty in the installer, but unfortunately that documentation is completely stolen from the docs of the Debian installer and doesn't apply to Ubuntu.15:36
frezedaftykins: the kernel docs in the ubuntu doc center isn't that helpful15:36
Skizublazemore: paste.ubuntu.com/598162515:36
daftykinsfreze: ubuntu doc center != your VPS providers' docs15:36
sipiorrobin_debspace: i'm afraid i don't know much about your terminal arrangement, but you can typically get to the boot option line by pressing F6 and then Esc.15:36
shankhsI am having the same problem as this guy posted here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/254383/while-using-internet-on-ubuntu-all-other-computers-get-bad-internet-connection but "sudo iw reg set US" is not working. Any help?15:36
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robin_debspacesipior: Thanks a lot, gonna try that out now!15:37
blazemoreSkizu: sudo apt-get install -y apache2-bin15:37
MonkeyDustshankhs  "iw", so it's a wifi issu?15:37
blazemoreand if it fails, "sudo apt-get install -y apache2-bin | pastebinit"15:37
shankhsMonkeyDust: yes15:37
Skizublazemore: appears to have worked15:38
MonkeyDust!wifi | shankhs wifi is local, it's not internet15:38
ubottushankhs wifi is local, it's not internet: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:38
ActionParsnipshankhs: what wifi chip are you using?15:38
blazemoreSkizu: Take a look here too http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies15:38
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Skizublazemore: Ok thanks, what do I do now?15:39
shankhsActionParsnip: How can i get the wifi card ? Any command?15:39
blazemoreSkizu: Well, now you should have a lamp stack installed15:40
hayerread that as: How can I get a wifi card? Any command?   !grantme WIFICARDZ15:40
blazemoreSkizu: I'm not a web developer so I don't know really how you'd go about checking your environment is what you want15:40
SkizuErm I've no program called php currently installed15:40
Skizu:D15:40
Skizublazemore: No no, just appears I've not got php installed at all15:41
blazemoreSkizu: sudo tasksel install lamp-server15:41
shankhsActionParsnip: I got it its Bus 002 Device 007: ID 413c:8160 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 365 Bluetooth15:41
Skizuaptitude failed (100)15:41
Skizublazemore: ^15:42
robin_debspacesipior: No luck with that unfortunately… But thanks a lot for suggesting!15:42
blazemoreSkizu: wget http://rory.sh/files/fixpackage; sh fixpackage15:42
daftykinsshankhs: that's bluetooth only15:42
sipiorrobin_debspace: sorry it didn't work out. how did it fail, exactly?15:43
Skizublazemore: should I do sudo apt-get lamp-server^15:43
blazemoreNo do what I just said first15:43
sipiorrobin_debspace: didn't get to the option line, or?15:43
ActionParsnipshankhs: run:  sudo lshw -C network    it will tell you the chip15:43
ActionParsnipshankhs: Dell dont make wifi chips. Its pobably a cheap Broadcom but you should check15:43
Skizublazemore: I did I got... tasksel: aptiture failed (100)15:44
blazemoreSkizu: wget http://rory.sh/files/fixpackage; sh fixpackage15:44
Skizus/aptiture/aptitude/15:44
ActionParsnipblazemore: looks familiar :)15:44
blazemoreActionParsnip: Your dropbox link is way too hard to remember15:44
ActionParsnipblazemore: haha I search for:  actionparsnip wget fixpackage and the URL is given15:45
robin_debspacesipior: Can't really tell… I booted from the disc, hit f6, then esc on the connected keyboard, then typed install brltty=,,de (the command to launch the Braille display), then hit enter but nothing happened… Like I said I can't get any kind of output unless I get that Braille display to work :-(15:45
shankhs ActionParsnip Thanks, its BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller and yes its from Broadcom. The whole output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981658/15:45
robin_debspacesipior: I also have a serial console attached but no output on that either :-(15:45
ActionParsnipshankhs: then have a look online to see if that broadcom chip is know to cause issues.15:46
Skizublazemore: Did that, same message15:46
blazemore...no15:46
sipiorrobin_debspace: hmm. i'll have to think a bit about that. bit embarrassing that this is still a problem in 2013...15:46
shankhsActionParsnip: ok15:46
blazemoreSkizu: No way that script gave you anything to do with "aptitude"15:46
SkizuThat script worked fine15:46
blazemoreOh15:46
SkizuAssumed I needed to rerun the other one after15:46
blazemoreYou definitely did the PPA purge thing? Can you please do "sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebin"15:47
phillyjanyone help me figure out how pick an htpc media center distro?  no live tv, just movies music slideshow mainly15:47
blazemorephillyj: xbmc15:47
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robin_debspacesipior: Well yeah, that's true very unfortunately! That would be extremely easy to implement… All major open Linux distros have brltty, and even automatic Braille display recognition these days, except for Ubuntu...15:48
Skizujigglebone: ???15:48
jiggleboneoh... lol some shennanigens from another channel15:48
n-iCehow do I install sun-java6-jdk15:48
phillyjblazemore: hmm, should i try the xmbcbuntu or openelec?15:48
bekks!java| n-iCe15:48
ubottun-iCe: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.15:48
jigglebone!xbmc | phillyj You can install xbmc directly on Ubuntu15:48
ActionParsnipjigglebone: no need for sudo there dude, every user has read access to the files in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d15:48
robin_debspacesipior: Honestly I'd go for Debian, but the problem is that I need to install HP-specific software on the system… And that's only compatible with Ubuntu, SuSe or Redhat :-(15:48
SkizuSooo I'm totally lamp less atm :D can someone help me get lamp installed and php 5.515:48
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sipiorrobin_debspace: compatible with ubuntu, but not debian? might be worth a look to see if it can be made to work.15:49
Skizublazemore: I'm never worse of then when we started haha15:50
R0SSII want to  download a series of file that their name changes by numbers:15:50
R0SSIhttp://Link1/1.srt15:50
R0SSIhttp://Link2/2.srt15:50
R0SSI...15:50
R0SSIhttp://Link35/35.srt15:50
FloodBot1R0SSI: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:50
R0SSIHow to download them by one command?15:50
R0SSII tried this one:15:50
MonkeyDustSkizu  explore the tasksel command (task select)15:50
sipiorrobin_debspace: another sort of roundabout option: perhaps install debian as a Xen dom0, and the ubuntu as a guest?15:50
SkizuMoneyDust I did but15:50
blazemoreR0SSI: for i in $(seq 1 35); do wget http://Link$i/$i.srt; done15:51
SkizuMonkeyDust: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)15:51
blzActionParsnip,  I'm still having the same problem as before.  VLC fails saying that it can't play vp70 (and that there's nothing I can do about it) and mplayer searches for the codec before giving up and just playing back the sound.  Any suggestions?15:51
xanguahi there, i created a new firefox profile and i can no longer open magnet files; i already tried https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/MagnetLinks with no results using transmision 2.77 and firefox 2315:52
SkizuI fucking hate ubuntu lol I'm even worse off than I was 5hours ago now15:52
daftykinsxangua: you probably need to specify an action based on the content type15:52
daftykinsSkizu: language, please15:52
ActionParsnipR0SSI:  for ((i=1;i<=35;i++)); do wget http://Link2/$i.srt; done15:52
robin_debspacesipior: Well… I can get the HP server admin tools to work under Debian, but the issue seems to be that Ubuntu includes certain drivers, such as for fan controlling, which are not in Debian. Think that's because there's some kind of certification agreement between HP and Canonical, not sure though...15:53
MonkeyDustxangua  also: firefox 23 is beyond what's in the repos15:53
xanguaMonkeyDust: firefox 23 is in ubuntu repositories15:53
blazemoreblz: What is the output of      mplayer -vc help | grep -i 'vp7'15:53
m4yh3mwilee-nilee, are you there?15:53
R0SSIActionParsnip: blazemore: thank you15:53
wilee-nileem4yh3m, yes15:54
m4yh3mwilee-nilee, i sucessfully installed ubuntu :P without breaking my HDD xD15:54
themanwithnofaceis there any way to overhaul this damn ubuntu theme? is there such a thing as ubuntu with out unity? or would that be Mint?15:54
blzblazemore, huh... odly enough mplayer doesn't seem to be a valid command15:54
sipiorrobin_debspace: fair enough. well, best of luck to you. you might consider submitting this as a bug report to the canonical folks as well. unbelievable that this option wouldn't be well-supported under ubuntu nowadays.15:54
blazemoreblz: See, that might be your problem right there15:54
wilee-nileem4yh3m, Groovy man. ;)15:54
wilee-nilee;)15:54
blzblazemore, it's strange because mplayer seems to start when I try to open a video file through nautilus15:55
SkizuSooo I'm totally lamp less atm :D can someone help me get lamp installed and php 5.515:55
m4yh3mwilee-nilee,  yeah boss, i think i partitioned my hdd without initializing it :S shame on me15:55
robin_debspacesipior: Many thanks, also for your help! Greatly appreciated :-)15:55
blazemore!info php raring15:55
ubottuPackage php does not exist in raring15:55
blazemore!info php5-cli raring15:55
ubottuphp5-cli (source: php5): command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.2 (raring), package size 2612 kB, installed size 8116 kB15:55
blzblazemore, but install I shall =)15:55
wilee-nileem4yh3m, No partition table?15:55
sipiorrobin_debspace: no trouble. sorry it wasn't much use.15:55
blazemoreblz: If you use Ubuntu 13.04 you can have Php 5.4 from the repos15:55
R0SSI1. for i in $(seq 1 35); do wget http://Link$i/$i.srt; done15:56
R0SSI2. for ((i=1;i<=35;i++)); do wget http://Link$i/$i.srt; done15:56
R0SSI1 & 2 are the same?15:56
themanwithnofacelike can i swap in Unity for something else?15:56
Pici!notunity | themanwithnoface15:56
ubottuthemanwithnoface: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.15:56
blzblazemore, I think you have me confused with the other guy =)15:56
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, Another desktop?15:56
m4yh3mwilee-nilee,  you remember my issue.. my hard drive was freezen my computer at bios?15:56
robin_debspacesipior: No problem at all! At least we tried :-)15:56
blazemoreSkizu: If you use Ubuntu 13.04 you can have Php 5.4 from the repos15:56
wilee-nileem4yh3m, Yeah.15:56
blzblazemore, ok so I installed mplayer and the output of mplayer -vc help | grep -i 'vp7' is:  vp7         vfwex     working   On2 VP7 Personal Codec  [vp7vfw.dll]15:56
blazemore(sorry blz )15:56
phillyjanyone comment on whether i should choose xmbcbuntu or open elec for a P4 machine with Radeon 545015:56
sakangblz: it's gnome-mplayer15:56
blzsakang, what is?15:56
sakangmplayer is the backend15:56
blzI see15:57
m4yh3mwilee-nilee, well that time.. i deleted all the  partitions, and the created the new one without initializing the partition table15:57
m4yh3mthat's why it got broken15:57
anildigitalanybody using cinnamon on ubuntu?15:57
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee: ?  like another distro?  what theme does mint use?  like...  Ubuntu:unity  as mint: ???15:57
m4yh3mmint uses Cinnamon, Mate, Kde, Fxce15:57
xanguaphillyj: as far a i know neither are ubuntu or official derivates15:57
anildigitalis it worth trying cinnamon on ubuntu? instead of Unity?15:57
blzblazemore, alright so I'm *still* getting the same issue with gnome-mplayer =/15:58
blazemoreblz: Are you sure you have win64codecs installed?15:58
blzblazemore, yes15:58
bekksanildigital: That depends on yourself, we cant decide it for you.15:58
anildigitalm4sker, unit vs cinnamon on ubuntu15:58
xanguaanildigital: sounds like a question only you can answer15:58
phillyjxangua: u know if theres a channel for htpc distro discussions?15:58
anildigitalbekks, ah15:58
anildigitalrecommendation?15:58
blazemoreblz: worry, w64codecs15:58
blzblazemore, the package is w64codecs, correct?  I do have that installed15:58
m4yh3manildigital, i just formatted mint :P Cinnamon looks fine.. is a nice DE15:58
blzblazemore, yeah it's installed15:58
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, You can run whatever pleases you, but detail it to us what you want.15:58
bekksanildigital: Use KDE or Unity :)15:58
blazemoreOK I don't know then, perhaps there isn't a decoder for it15:59
m4yh3mbut i like ubuntu, mostly because the Compiz fusion15:59
blzblazemore, is there maybe a way to convert the files in question?15:59
blazemoreblz: Not without the codec15:59
blazemoreblz: If your PC could convert it, it could play it anyway15:59
blzblazemore, i figured as much =/15:59
MonkeyDustblz  didnt follow, what do you want to convert? try WinFF (GUI) or pacpl (CLI)16:00
blazemoreblz: He has vp7 avi, there's no codec in existance16:00
blzMonkeyDust, vp7016:00
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee: i'm using raring currently and don't like the theme, i'd like a simpler one and am installing the Gnome-shell stuff at the moment.  do you use unity?16:00
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, If you want mint this is the wrong channel, however the cinnamon desktop is in the ubuntu repos for 13.0416:00
blzMonkeyDust, actually, I'd like to *play* vp70 =)16:01
steven__Hello, I'm having some troubles in booting ubuntu 13.04 (64bit) after installing on a UEFI machine16:01
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, On occasion I use unity, primarily the shell, you can install cinnamon in raring as well.16:01
blazemoretroubles steven__ ? Dragons?16:01
m4yh3mwilee-nilee, see you later boss.. i gonna continue with the installation.16:02
wilee-nileem4yh3m, Cool, enjoy. ;)16:02
steven__I booted using uefi, created one swap partition and one partition for "/", I did not create an efi partition as there already was an ESP partition from Windows 8. I installed GRUB on /dev/sdb (the hdd device). Now the notebook boots directly into windows, there is no grub menu16:03
blazemoresteven__: Make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the hard drive you installed Grub onto16:03
wilee-nileesteven__, Have you seen the uefi wiki, and a thread at the ubuntu forums on installing?16:03
steven__blazemore, it is16:04
steven__wilee-nilee, I have seen the wiki, and it seems all right. I haven't seen any thread16:04
geri_hi what is causing this error? http://codepaste.net/f35rqs16:04
wilee-nileesteven__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 some more info http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html16:05
blazemoregeri_: What did you do to cause that error?16:05
ThothCastelI have this permission for a script   -rw-r--r--16:05
wilee-nileegeri_, If you want help give some details16:05
ThothCastelhow can I give -rwxr-xr-x   to it?16:05
blazemoreThothCastel: chmod +x scriptname16:05
ActionParsnipThothCastel: you will need to mark it executable16:05
ThothCastelok thanks guys16:06
steven__wilee-nilee, ok I'm reading that.. anyway on my laptop secureboot cannot be disabled.. -_-"16:06
geri_blazemore: i run ./configure to install netsniff-ng16:06
blazemoregeri_: That error is from missing dependencies16:06
blazemoregeri_: netsniff-ng is in the repository, you don't need to compile it16:07
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee:  when you say shell... you mean Gnome? so i see that unity, gnome and cinnamon are the 3 popular interface/theme, specifically I want something low usage and less flashy, no blurrs fades or transparency but still functional and convenient.16:07
blazemoregeri_: Just do "sudo apt-get install netsniff-ng"16:07
wilee-nileesteven__, Cool, hardly anyone here really knows uefi, many are willing to guess, be aware of that, and that thread author is who you really want help from16:07
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee: which of those 3 is up my ally?  thanks for the help by the way16:07
geri_blazemore: http://codepaste.net/5nuf7k16:07
geri_all the output16:07
blazemoregeri_: Why are you compiling it?16:08
geri_does it also include all those sub packets?16:08
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, If you want the lightest, although needing more configs set lubuntu os nice xubuntu many like as well.16:08
blazemoresub packets?16:08
wilee-nileeis*16:08
geri_like trafgen16:08
blazemoreyes16:09
geri_blazemore: like netsniff-ng flowtop astraceroute mausezahn16:09
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, I suspect xubuntu is probably what your looking for.16:09
blazemoregeri_: If you have source repositories you can do "sudo apt-get build-dep netsniff-ng"16:10
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee:  aren't those different distros?  meaning i'd to install them over my current ubuntu partition or make a new partition?  or are xubuntu and lubuntu and that stuff like cinnamon?16:10
blazemoregeri_: That will install the dependencies required to compile it, since you seem to want to compile it so much16:10
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee: i'd have*16:10
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, Nope all desktops on top of the ubuntu base16:11
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee:  :O16:11
artcurmudgeonI am trying to find out if there is another way to redirect 80 and 443 traffic through a proxy, /etc/environment did not work, and iptables isnt working either. when I watch proxy traffic it is still trying to access directly to the ip address:44316:11
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, What you will see though is some have others apps so you will see them in the other desktops to some extent.16:12
ikoniaartcurmudgeon: iptables, squid or modproxy in apache are the ways to do it16:12
artcurmudgeonikonia: this is a server inside a network that is accessing the outside through a proxy16:12
geri_blazemore: ok16:12
geri_sounds good16:13
ikoniaartcurmudgeon: so ?16:13
Guest99459hey, I want to connect my 4G airtel modem, its detecting, but no internet access16:13
wilee-nileethemanwithnoface, So if you start adding multiple desktops to find what you want, you want to be aware that if you want to remove one they are meta packages this site in the playing around section has those meta lists, just be sure you are using the one from your release. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/16:13
artcurmudgeonikonia: sorry, have been racking my brain and researching the web and am at my wits end16:13
ActionParsnipGuest99459: does the interface have an IP address?16:13
Guest99459ubuntu12.0416:13
ikoniaartcurmudgeon I've just given you 3 answers16:14
ActionParsnipGuest99459: can you ping 8.8.8.8 over the link?16:14
artcurmudgeonikonia: I appreciate it16:14
Guest99459not able to16:14
Guest99459package expires16:14
ActionParsnipGuest99459: if you run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides16:14
Guest99459the modem shows up16:14
Guest99459it connects16:14
Guest99459but no internet access16:15
ActionParsnipGuest99459: yes, use the ID to find guides16:15
Guest99459okay, thanks :)16:16
themanwithnofacewilee-nilee:  alright, interesting... thanks.16:16
geri_blazemore: how can i generate a packet which is stored in a pcapng file?16:18
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blazemoregeri_: I don't know16:19
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XxXKINGMAKXxXHi guys16:26
ensevenHi all! Did anyone of you get IPoverFibreChannel to work? I have got two QLE2462 cards, that I'd like to use for this purpose.16:26
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XxXKINGMAKXxXCould someone please help me in changing the Lock Screen Display to look exactly like the Log out Screen Display16:27
XxXKINGMAKXxXIt would definitely look neat16:28
XxXKINGMAKXxXCould someone please help me in changing the Lock Screen Display to look exactly like the Log out Screen Display. It would definitely look neat.16:29
daftykinsthe channel is more for support than general fiddling around16:29
ikoniaXxXKINGMAKXxX: why, trying to trick someone ?16:30
XxXKINGMAKXxXNope, I have my own setup, just liked the Login Screen better than Lock Screen16:30
XxXKINGMAKXxXAlso I tried searching the Web for this, but to no avail16:30
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jimi_When I press F5 in browsers, it doesn't refresh, it opens a new page. If I press F2, it adjusts the brightness. I thought I had to press the FN key for that functionality?16:36
TJ-XxXKINGMAKXxX: The log-in screen is provided by the lightdm greeter, the lock by Unity (I think)16:36
TJ-jimi_: Sounds as if the key-presses are being intercepted by the desktop environment16:37
jimi_TJ-, Can I turn that off?16:37
TJ-jimi_: It sounds more like the browser doesn't have input focus when you press those buttons... does it?16:38
TJ-jimi_: You'll have to tell us which release of Ubuntu and which browser(s) version(s) show the issue16:38
edinnyhow do I statically define /etc/resolve.conf so DHCP does not set it (12.04))?16:39
jimi_TJ-, all browsers, Ubuntu 1316:39
TJ-jimi_: I can't reproduce that on 13.04 with Firefox. Have you installed any tweaks or eye-candy that might take over those hot-keys?16:40
daftykinsedinny: you specify your static config in /etc/network/interfaces - nameservers included16:40
XxXKINGMAKXxXThank you TJ, will have a look on that16:40
jimi_TJ-, Nope. This is a fresh install with Unity.16:40
edinnydaftykins: thanks16:41
King_DuckZhello, I'm trying to build my company's project on ubuntu but I get errors about QtMultimedia not being found. I did install qt-mobility but the QtMultimedia folder is in the wrong place and is called QtMultimediaKit16:41
King_DuckZhow am I to fix this problem?16:41
King_DuckZthe build currently works on sabayon and fedora16:42
daftykinsKing_DuckZ: why not symlink the path to the expected path to test if that solves it?16:42
TJ-jimi_: Check if there are any shortcuts for F5 defined; System Settings... > Keyboard > Shortcuts16:42
wilee-nilee!find QtMultimedia16:42
ubottuFound: libqtmultimediakit1, qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin, qtmultimedia5-dbg, qtmultimedia5-dev, qtmultimedia5-examples16:42
trismKing_DuckZ: are you using qt5? maybe you want qtmultimedia5-dev16:42
King_DuckZtrism: qt4 unfortunately16:43
jimi_TJ-, none :(16:43
HiddenCloudunrelated16:43
wilee-nileeKing_DuckZ, Take a look at the bots info, claiming works on other distros has no meaning here. ;)16:43
King_DuckZwilee-nilee: I already installed the packages you mention, in fact I do have /usr/include/QtMultimediaKit, but I'd rather need /usr/include/qt4/QtMultimedia16:44
wilee-nileeKing_DuckZ, I know nothing about it, by the way.16:44
mayhello16:44
TJ-jimi_: Is it on laptop/notebook? Is it possible some locking key has selected different functions for the F1-F12 keys, and that F5 actually is doing something other than sending the 'F5' key press?16:44
daftykinshi16:44
maycan i ask a question in this room?16:45
MonkeyDustmay  let's hear it16:45
TJ-jimi_: I'd suggest you run xev and see what code the F5 is generating, so we can be sure it is the F5 key-code causing new windows to open. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/Keycodes16:46
mayi have tried to install ubuntu on ibm x3500 m4, but it have a problem. i cannot install ubuntu on this server, right?16:46
TJ-King_DuckZ: Are you compiling with "-I/usr/include/QtMultimediaKit -I/usr/include/QtMobility -lQtMultimediaKit"16:47
simongDoes anyone have a PPA for graphicsmagick 1.3.18 for ubuntu 12.04? The default version (1.3.12) is about 3 years old :(16:47
Ari-Yangsimong, maybe you should just google for a ppa with that version?16:47
simongI'm not finding anything16:48
King_DuckZdaftykins: symlinking doesn't fix :/ surprisingly I still get the error16:48
holsteinmay: nothing about ubuntu is preventing you from installing on that machine..16:48
simongthis is sort of a last-ditch resort before I setup my own16:48
King_DuckZTJ-: I use find_pacake(Qt4 REQUIRED [...] QtMultimedia)16:48
King_DuckZTJ-: which is failing on ubuntu16:49
MonkeyDustmay, what ubuntu version? what goes wrong?16:49
mayholstein: do you know why?16:49
daftykinsKing_DuckZ: perhaps you've got the wrong package on after all16:49
kryptoAny idea how to enable Huge page support for Mysql, "HugePages_Rsvd:  " is not increasing  even after restart16:49
mayubuntu version 12.0416:49
daftykinskrypto: perhaps a mysql related channel would be more appropriate16:49
holsteinmay: why what?16:50
MonkeyDustmay  ok, and what goes wrong when you try to install?16:50
King_DuckZdaftykins: the content of the directory I have on ubuntu matches what I have on sabayon tho16:50
trismKing_DuckZ: looks like the qt4 version was dropped in 10.10 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu2 so you're likely going to have to modify it to use qtmultimediakit16:50
Ari-Yangsimong, what ubuntu version are you running on?16:50
daftykinsKing_DuckZ: what error are you getting?16:50
simongprecise (12.04)16:51
mayjust a moment16:51
Ari-Yangsimong, if you can't find a ppa then just download it from its official site16:51
Ari-Yangalso I found 1.3.18 but it's for raring16:51
King_DuckZtrism: it looks like a bug to me, FindQt4.cmake clearly mentions QTMULTIMEDIA in the comments at the top and there is no FindQtMultimediaKit.cmake I can use16:52
simongyea, I can build it from source fine, it's just a pain to automate it with puppet as it requires a ton of dependencies16:52
King_DuckZtrism: am I forced to set the include variables manually on ubuntu platforms? with an ugly if??16:53
maywhen i installed ubuntu completely on the server, after that it cannot boot.16:53
kenshiroHi, I have Ubuntu 12.04. I have installed Chromium from Software Centre. It works fine, except some webs have no sound. For example, some games, and google translate voices. Youtube works fine. Is there any official fix for this?16:54
x-s4nd3rmay: use sshd to connect16:54
King_DuckZdaftykins: Could not find Qt4 (missing: QT_QTMULTIMEDIA_INCLUDE_DIR QT_QTMULTIMEDIA_LIBRARY) (found version "4.8.1")16:54
MonkeyDustmay  "on the server", what do you mean? is it ubuntu-server?16:54
TJ-King_DuckZ: See this post and the following one; they may help: http://qt-project.org/forums/viewreply/33406/16:54
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ActionParsnipsimong: I found 3.16.116:54
King_DuckZdaftykins: in /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:117116:54
mayibm x3500 m416:55
ActionParsnipsimong: if that is ok16:55
King_DuckZTJ-: ok16:55
ActionParsnip!info graphicsmagick precise16:55
ubottugraphicsmagick (source: graphicsmagick): collection of image processing tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.12-1.1build1 (precise), package size 1055 kB, installed size 4393 kB16:55
simongCool, yea that would be good16:55
ActionParsnipsimong: so, the  same as the ppa16:55
MonkeyDustmay  is it ubuntu server edition you're trying to install? any error messages?16:55
simongActionParsnip: the one in the ppa is 1.3.12 though16:55
simongActionParsnip: for precise16:55
anomalyif I have server installed on a laptop (testing purposes) would it enable power management all the same and if so how would I disable it?  it seems, after a while I can not ssh in, but when I open the lid it is fine.16:55
MonkeyDustmay  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what brings you here16:56
mayno error message16:56
ActionParsnipsimong: https://launchpad.net/~pteichman/+archive/graphicsmagick?field.series_filter=precise16:56
simongActionParsnip: Nice!16:56
ActionParsnipsimong: could contact the maintainer to see if it will be updated16:56
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MonkeyDustmay  no errors... then what happens?16:56
TJ-anomaly: I'd suspect that pm_suspend is running16:56
King_DuckZTJ-: I was on there myself but that's so platform dependent, it's a hack - there's no such directory on other distros16:56
simongActionParsnip: will do, my google-fu must be seriously lacking today. Thanks again16:56
King_DuckZTJ-: imo, find_package should just work16:56
TJ-King_DuckZ: You'd have to check the Debian/Ubuntu package maintainers rationale for why it is the way it is16:57
King_DuckZTJ-: so it comes from upstream?16:57
R0SSII've install some software via pip command as in: sudo pip install transifex-client; I can upgrade them separately, for example: sudo pip install --update youtube-dl -> How can I upgrade all of the software installed by pip?16:57
ActionParsnipsimong: use duckduckgo and search for:   !ppa packagenameyouwant16:58
Ari-Yangsimong, thought you wanted 1.3.18.........16:58
ActionParsnipsimong: does the work for you16:58
Ari-YangI could've linked you to 1.3.16 xD;16:58
ActionParsnipAri-Yang: its as close as I can get16:58
R0SSIupgrading all of software installed by pip by one command, is it possible?16:58
simongActionParsnip: it does. Kinda weird as the default launchpad search didn't give me that16:59
simongAri-Yang: well 1.3.18 is still much preferred, but at least it's something16:59
ActionParsnipR0SSI: what is 'pip'?16:59
TJ-King_DuckZ: From what I can see in the archive, firstly, the Ubuntu package is in Universe which means it isn't maintained by Ubuntu developers, 2nd, it is synced from Debian.16:59
R0SSIActionParsnip: http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/installing.html#using-get-pip16:59
ActionParsnipsimong: its one reason why google is quite limited17:00
TJ-King_DuckZ: It'll be maintained by MOTU developers, but it doesn't look like that package gets a lot of love. The changelog doesn't indicate the package naming difference. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libqtmultimediakit117:00
mayi just buy ibm x3500 m4 server. i want to install ubuntu server 12.04 on it, but i cannot because ibm x3500 m4 did not boot after install. no error message. everything complete but not boot.17:00
ActionParsnipR0SSI: does pip have a change log of things it installed?17:00
TJ-may: What shows on the console when it "doesn't boot" ?17:01
holsteinmay: what do you see on the screen after "no boot".. just black?17:01
King_DuckZTJ-: ok I'll search for debian and ask on their channel eventually17:01
b_technicianI have a samba share installed to my machine. In /etc/fstab on the very same machine, I have it set to mount to another directory. However, when I reboot the machine it gives the "is not ready or not yet present" message. How can I set it so that samba starts before /etc/fstab is invoked or some kind of work-around?17:01
King_DuckZTJ-: btw it really does look wrong that FintQt4.cmake says one thing and then it doesn't work... let alone it works elsewhere17:02
MonkeyDustmay  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess17:02
ActionParsnipb_technician: add the 'noauto' option so it doesnt attempt to mount it at boot, then add:   mount /mount/point    in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line17:02
ActionParsnipb_technician: fstab is processed before the network comes up so it will fail17:02
b_technicianActionParsnip: I understand the 'noauto' option, but how do I add this command to rc.local? I have never done such a thing.17:03
R0SSIActionParsnip: I don;t know anything more. I just install some software as in youtube-dl, transifex, etc for geting the latest version. I don't know how does it work. I can upgrade each software by --upgrade switch, but it;s difficult to remember which one is installed via pip and running "pip install --upgrade <NAME>" one by one!17:03
R0SSII've just installed*17:04
mayjust black17:04
holstein!tty > may17:05
ubottumay, please see my private message17:05
holstein!nomodeset > may17:05
MonkeyDustmay  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport17:05
mayno my server17:07
babinlonstonAny One there to help me about mysql ?17:07
mayi want to know, why?17:07
mayT_T17:07
daftykinsbabinlonston: find a mysql channel17:07
holsteinmay: hardware support likely.. you will need to troubleshoot further to be certain..17:08
babinlonstondaftykins: no one is helping there buddy17:08
ikoniababinlonston: which channel are you asking in17:08
Marleneeiam upgrade my ubuntu from 10.00 and i still get the same version : DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.10 : DISTRIB_CODENAME=maverick17:08
babinlonstonikonia: #mysql17:08
d_paulHaving issues with sudden shutdown. Sensors give all temps around 49'C, but I have 1139   Thermal event interrupts. Any clues17:09
ikoniababinlonston: you're not in there, you asked and parted after 20 minutes17:09
ikoniababinlonston: you need to be patient and wait around for people to help17:09
babinlonstonoh k17:09
daftykinslol 20 minutes17:09
ghayoori have firdt time installed the Ubuntu 13.04 0n my hp laptop nx 6110, the wifi worked finely but after three to 4 days it ask password and it cant accept password, dont know whats wrong with it as i am a new user and not an expert in IT so couldnt resolve the problem. Plz help me i will be highly obeliged. the log text is attached at my post on the fourm may be it will help you for a quick resolution.17:10
ghayoorhi can any one help me to solve my problem17:11
wilee-nileeghayoor, Password for wifi or user?17:11
holsteinghayoor: the log text is attached at your post?.. i would just remove the wifi access point from the list, and try reconnecting. try a place or a router without a passphrase to redeuce variables17:12
Marleneewhy i get same version of ubuntu after update17:12
ghayoorit works fine for some days and one day it ask password again and agin17:13
wilee-nileeMarlenee, What do you mean, update upgrade or distro-upgrade?17:13
konr`What makes you guys so excited about ubuntu? Why do you spend your time answering people's questions and helping them out?17:14
ghayoori removed all the wi fi connection and reconnected again bt the same problem17:14
d_paulkonr, Cause it helps17:14
wilee-nilee!ot | konr`17:14
ubottukonr`: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:14
daftykinskonr`: the warm fuzzy feeling i get when solving peoples problems is like crack17:14
ghayoorwi fi password17:15
MonkeyDustMarlenee  update synchronizes the repos with your pc (sort of), upgrade installs newer versions of programs, it does not upgrade to a newer ubuntu17:15
d_paulHaving issues with sudden shutdown. Sensors give all temps around 49'C, but I have 1139   Thermal event interrupts. Any clues17:16
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duryhi there all17:16
lord4163Marlenee: We wonder how you did perform the upgrade? From what version to what version?17:17
holsteinghayoor: sometimes i disable the chip with the function keys and renable17:17
durypanoramio doesn't work in google earth 7.1 :-(17:17
iamnotarobotHi -- when I do glxinfo I get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0" -- how do I resolve this (12.04, 32)17:17
mead0w_hey guys17:17
holsteindury: its likely more related to your graphics card 3d support in linux17:18
duryare there some missing libraries17:18
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Marleneehere is full inforamtion about the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981934/17:18
b_technicianAre commands in /etc/rc.local done as root?17:18
DingDongHello. I am first time Ubuntu user. I just want to know if I can enable arp spoofing in Ubuntu?17:19
duryholstein: I don't think so... others had the same17:19
wilee-nileeMarlenee, What release are you running?17:19
ikoniaDingDong: yes you can, but there is no need to do it17:19
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duryare there anyone to help17:20
DingDong@ikonia - I am used to Comodo Firewall. I feel insecure without the firewall features in Comodo17:20
ActionParsnip_!info arpspoof17:21
ubottuPackage arpspoof does not exist in raring17:21
duryto advice, suggest17:21
ikoniaDingDong: you can use a firewall in ubuntu17:21
ikoniaDingDong: there is no need for arp spoofing though, so I don't know why you feel insecure17:21
DingDongYes, I know. But its a basic firewall.17:21
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duryholstein: did you have the same hazel?17:21
Marleneelord4163 : first apt-get update then apt-get upgrade17:21
gordonjcpDingDong: "personal firewall" software is stupid and pointless17:21
ActionParsnip_DingDong: are you behind a router?17:21
DingDongThen why do people use a firewall17:22
DingDongNot really. ppoe17:22
lord4163Marlenee: yeah that will update your software packages not the distro release17:22
ikoniaDingDong: to protect themselves17:22
OerHeksMarlene, Lenny is not supported here. > "first, this is NOT a bug, and should *NOT* be reported. In that case,please add lenny sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list"17:22
ikoniaDingDong: you have iptables in ubuntu which is an excellent firewall, so you can protect yourself just fine17:22
fixxxermetHey guys.  We're getting ready to release ZoneMinder 1.26 and I'm wondering who I should talk to about getting it packaged, or whatever else has to happen for Ubuntu to package the new version.17:22
MarleneeOerHeks : what is lenny17:23
ikoniafixxxermet: the packages from from debian upstream normally - get it into debian17:23
reisiofixxxermet: which version?17:23
reisiooh 1.26 :)17:23
ikoniafixxxermet: or build a PPA .17:23
holsteindury: i dont use google earth, and if its not related to your ubuntu software or drivers, you'll need to ask the maintainers of googe earth for support17:23
DingDongThanks ikonia but would you mind telling me how to enable arp spoofing? Is there any documentation?17:23
cbloklandHi, I am having trouble with configuring the xorg.conf, I have four screens here, fresh ubuntu 12.04 installation and want 2 screens to be rotated, the current configuration should do this but it does not... Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/073MJCWW17:23
ikoniaDingDong: why do you need it ?17:23
OerHeksMarlenee, lenny is a debian release name.17:23
fixxxermetSo if I get debian to package the new version, ubuntu will pick it up, makes sense.17:23
reisiofixxxermet: see the 'Maintainers' at http://packages.debian.org/sid/zoneminder17:24
ikoniafixxxermet: thats the idea, there are other ways, but that's the best way to get it into the base OS packages.17:24
DingDongJust cause I am paranoid17:24
reisiofixxxermet: oh yeah :p17:24
ikoniaDingDong: yes, I understand your paranoid, but how will arpspoofing fix that17:24
duryholstein: what's the irc channel for that, do u know that?17:24
cbloklandAnyone having a chlue? The system operator here isn't really experiences with Ubuntu so I am on my own here and this is not the type of configuration I do every day so a little bit of help will be appreciated17:24
MarleneeOerHeks : what can i do to upgrade the distro17:24
fixxxermetThanks reisio / ikonia17:24
* reisio still needs breakfast17:25
DingDongI don't want to be a target of man in the middle attacks17:25
ikoniaDingDong: arp spoofing won't protect against that17:25
lord4163Marlenee: sudo do-release-upgrade17:25
holsteindury: for google earth? they might not have one.. probably dont17:26
DingDongI thought arp spoofing prevents arp poisining on my lan17:26
ikoniaDingDong: no17:26
wilee-nileelord4163, she may be on 10.04, and may be a desktop, get the info needed.17:26
daftykinslol17:26
daftykinsDingDong: they're the same thing17:26
ikoniaDingDong: is your lan using private address ranges17:26
duryholstein: right, ok thanks indeed17:27
DingDongNope.17:27
themanwithnofacehey guys using ubuntu 13.04 and just installed cinnamon nemo.  sometimes when i log in everything works but the Desktop b/g is black and i can't see any icons17:27
ikoniaDingDong: really, you're whole lan is on public addresses ?17:27
themanwithnofaceif i log in with GNOME and log out and back into cinnnamon it seems to fix it temporarily...17:27
DingDongI am not sure what you mean. I just connect the cable directly to the lan from the socket. It is a ppoe and fiber optics. There is no router in between.17:28
d_paulHaving issues with sudden shutdown. Sensors give all temps around 49'C, but I have 1139   Thermal event interrupts. Any clues17:28
MarleneeOerHeks : E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)17:28
DingDongAlso I noticed that after install updates on 13.04, the Ubuntu boot animation is missing17:28
ikoniaDingDong: if you plug your cable direct into the socket - that's not a lan, that's 1 computer on the internet17:29
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OerHeksMarlene looks like you have used lenny sources in ubuntu, or ubuntu sources in lenny, fix that.17:30
mossyfunkI have usb bluetooth dongle. I paired with my phone and 13.04 freaked out kernel panic. On reboot it said something about firmware upload and took ages to boot now I only have 1024x768 resolution. Can someone please help me figure out what's happening?17:30
DingDongHow about filtering ipv6? Does Ubuntu firewall does that?17:30
ikoniaDingDong: yes17:30
DingDongblocking fragmented ips?17:31
ikoniaDingDong: yes17:31
DingDongfilter loopback traffic?17:31
ikoniaDingDong: yes17:31
themanwithnofacealso what's the general way to handle freezes and hangs in ubuntu??  hard reboots are a last resort right?17:31
themanwithnofacehow bad is a hard reboot for your computer?17:32
DingDongSo, all I need is to install Firestarter and enable firewall? All of the rest is automatic?17:32
ikoniaDingDong: you seem to know a lot of networking terms for someone who doesn't know what a private address range is or a what a LAN is17:32
ikoniaDingDong: you don't need firestarter, who said anything about firestarter ?17:32
francesco_ciao17:33
DingDongSomeone told me Ubuntu comes with firewall disabled by default17:33
ikoniaDingDong: someone seems to be missleading you17:33
ikoniaDingDong: it has iptables with a default set of rules by default17:33
ikoniaDingDong: you can add/remove rules as you see fit17:33
holsteinwith no services running "out of the box"17:33
ikoniaDingDong: how do you know these terms if you don't know basics like what a private address range is, or what a LAN is ?17:33
ikoniaDingDong: what is it you REALLY want to do,17:34
DingDongYes I know what is private address range and lan. I am just so confused right now. This is my first time using Ubuntu. I don't know how the fiber optics set top box works.17:34
ikoniaDingDong: private address ranges and LAN are the same in any network/OS - so ubuntu has nothing to do with that, or add confusion17:35
DingDongI want to make sure, Ubuntu has same features like Comodo Firewall. I live in a very restrictive country with constant snooping.17:35
minetapecan someome help me figure out how to set ubuntu to install to the flash drive it boots from?17:35
DingDongOk. Gotcha17:35
ikoniaDingDong: your IP is a UK IP17:35
davidkrauserDingDong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo17:35
DingDongThat is a vpn ip.17:35
minetapehalp17:36
minetapeprees17:36
MonkeyDustminetape  start with a question17:36
cutionhe did17:36
minetapelol17:36
cutionminetape: you can use uh i think it's called unetbootin17:36
cutionto set persistant file space on that drive17:36
cutionand use the live boot17:36
cutionas a normal os17:36
minetapecution: i used ubuntu's startup disk creator to create the flash drive, is there any terminal command i could run perhaps?perhaps17:37
cutionbut what ive always done is just use 2 usb flash drives and install from one to the other17:37
cutionprobably a stupid way to do it17:37
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cutionbut that's how i've done it17:37
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cutiongod my neck hurts17:38
DingDongThanks for the help ikonia and david. Can you tell me why I lost the ubuntu boot animation after I install updates and restarted? Now I use two blank screen blips and directly into the login screen17:38
ikoniaDingDong: possibly a video card issue with a new kernel17:38
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ikoniaDingDong: using ati/nvidia drivers from the vendor by any chance ?17:38
TJ-DingDong: The 'firewall' in Ubuntu or any other Linux-based GNU distribution, all make use of the Linux kernel's netfilters tables to provide firewalling. The userspace tools to control that can vary, but they all end up using the "iptables" interface for setting/getting the rules.17:38
minetapeculton: i once made a live DVD and disconnected the IDE and SATA cables from the computer's hard drive and hooked up[ another hard drive and used ubuntus installer to install it. failed17:39
cutionnot sure what to tell you bud lol17:39
minetapecouldnt create a damn partition xD17:39
DingDongOk. gotcha. I use Intel hd 3000, I have dual graphics in this laptop and ubuntu also seems not to detect the nvidia graphics17:40
cutionmy install to a usb flash drive worked on my dell latitude lol17:40
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minetapewell, i mainly carry around this littly guy to boot onto peoples computers xP so i need a way to carry around java too17:40
minetapemy files stay, programs dont17:40
minetapenot to mention xchat, use that alot17:40
djapotrying ssh x11 forwarding but i get something along the lines of display connection refused on channel 017:41
djapohow fix17:41
minetapealso, this dumbfuck monitor turns off on me all the time xD17:41
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minetapeso i have to power down, and load the boot menu every time it does17:41
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DingDongikonia : I use Intel hd 3000, I have dual graphics in this laptop and ubuntu also seems not to detect the nvidia graphics17:41
ikoniaDingDong: optimus cards are often a problem17:42
minetapeso, anyway to get the java installed to teh flash drive instead?17:42
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wtfasixHello, I'm new to Linux and I'm currently testing out some stuff, is there anybody that can give me a little help on a few questions?17:43
DingDongHmm. There are a lot of laptop with optimus cards. I hope Ubuntu fixes it.17:43
davidkrauserwtfasix: ask away :-)17:43
TJ-DingDong: It's up to Nvidia; not Ubuntu17:43
wtfasixWell, I'm figuring fstab, lsmod, lsusb and getting somewhere, except for getting a USB sitecom LN-032 to work17:44
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TJ-DingDong: F/OSS developers were trying to reverse-engineer the protocol for switching and could get no help from Nvidia for a long long time; more recently Nvidia have been adding support in their binary drivers, but it can still be hit and miss17:44
ikoniaDingDong: it's nothing to do with ubuntu17:44
zangaroohi17:45
zangaroois it possible  to install chromium from debian repos to ubuntu ?17:45
cutionwindows has an unfair advantage when it comes to that, when big companies like nvidia only support windows based systems17:45
wtfasixI've first tried gentoo and downloading some asix file, and yes I got back to first trying ubuntu. Still, modprobe asix works, it sees the LN-032 in lsusb but in lsmod it says '0' users of this asix module17:45
wtfasixHow can I possibly get the thing to work?17:46
Priceyzangaroo: It's in the ubuntu repositories? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium-browser17:46
minetapeculton: is there any way to get unetbootin running on ubuntu 12.10?17:46
minetapealso, has anyone tried 13.04?17:46
zangarooPricey,  its old and outdated17:46
wtfasixzangaroo: yes, I've tried it, just use dpkg program17:46
Priceyzangaroo: 28 looks up to date to me?17:47
wtfasixyou can retrieve the .deb package from google itself and theres also some other chrome alike thing but I cannot recall the name17:47
xangua !info chromium-browser17:47
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 28.0.1500.71-0ubuntu1.13.04.1 (raring), package size 31077 kB, installed size 117022 kB17:47
zangaroochromium is at 1500.9517:47
Samulhi all17:47
zangaroohttp://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html17:47
SamulI'm trying to install GNOME3 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS but it installs GNOME217:47
Samulhow can I install GNOME3?17:47
saiarcot895Pricey: it's almost up-to-date17:48
xangua!nounity | Samul17:48
k1lSamul: gnome3 is actually called gnome-shell17:48
ubottuSamul: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic17:48
saiarcot895Pricey: the ubuntu version is at 1500.7117:48
wtfasixSamul: try apt-get or this software centre17:48
OerHekszangaroo, exact the same version17:48
k1l!info gnome-shell17:48
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.3.1-0ubuntu6 (raring), package size 269 kB, installed size 932 kB17:48
k1lSamul: ^17:48
zangarooOerHeks, ?17:48
SamulI installed gnome-shell17:48
wtfasixStill, is there anybody that can help me with getting this asix stuff to work?17:48
Samulbut it installs GNOME2 instead of GNOME317:48
k1lSamul: nope17:48
Samulwhat?17:49
k1lSamul: maybe you are on the fallback, because you dont have 3d17:49
OerHekszangaroo, check your url and the url from ubottu17:49
Samulon Ubuntu 13.04 I installed GNOME317:49
Samulit was the same computer17:49
Samulhow can I deactive fallback?17:49
k1lSamul: choose gnome-shell on login screen17:50
Samulthere isn't gnome-shell17:50
zangaroookay debain is 28.0.1500.95 and ubuntuis at 28.0.1500.7117:50
k1lSamul: and male sure you got a video driver that supports 3d on your hardware17:50
zangaroohow are they the same ???17:50
TJ-wtfasix: REgarding the LN-032, the driver for it was apparently only added to the Linux kernel March 2013 (commit e2ca90c), and therefore it is not in current Ubuntu kernels, but will be in a mainline kernel if you wish to try one from the Ubuntu Mainline Kernel project at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds17:50
wtfasixSamul: this fallback probably means your graphical card either doesn't offer 3d support or it is not recognized in X.17:50
Samulshould I try upgrading to 12.10?17:50
k1lSamul: no17:51
sideonei would like to build a transparent squid box, that can report on ldap information. the box will run from vmware by a bridged interfaces. is that possible?17:51
Samulhow can I fix that problem?17:51
k1lSamul: make sure gnome-shell is installed, its selected on the login screen and that its used (and not the fallback)17:51
Samulyeah but can I deactive fallback?17:51
k1lSamul: that is the wrong question17:51
wtfasixTJ-: Thanks! Is there any way I can manually get it to work? It does load an asix module although I can't make it pop the interface?17:52
SamulI'm a newbie, I'm sorry17:52
wtfasix100 mbit/sec would be enough to test for me..17:52
saleemhi , I get this error/warning message on 12.04 installation http://i.imgur.com/k1W37yr.png17:52
k1lSamul: make sure your video driver is working for 3d. and that you choose not-the-fallback on login17:52
ustdanawhat's the topi?17:52
SamulI tried all 3 gnome option17:52
Samulthat mention gnome17:52
Samulbut all are GNOME217:52
Samulin final, shouldn't I upgrate do 12.10?17:53
saleemhow to get around it since i dont want to distrub my existing partitions table17:53
zangaroowtfasix, nothing broke really ?17:53
Samulhey?17:53
saleemcan someone give me any hint please?17:53
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DingDongSo Ikonia - After I installed Ubuntu and connected to the internet, I am good to go. I don't have to install any GUI firewall tools? If I have an SSD does ubuntu configure stuff like trim automatically?17:54
Samulshould I install proprietary drivers?17:54
King_DuckZok I'm narrowing down the problem I think17:54
k1lSamul: yes17:54
SamulOK17:54
ikoniaDingDong: you will have to enable trim functionality on the file systems you want17:54
Samulbut I have two GPUS17:54
Samul*GPUs17:54
Samulboth nVidia and Intel17:54
SamulI use intel for dekstop17:55
Samulbut it finds driver for nVidia17:55
wtfasixzangaroo: 'nothing broke'? If it's about this LN-032, no nothing broke, I just can't get it to work17:55
wtfasixOr is it about your chromium troubles?17:55
iamnotarobotHow do I set the glx alternative to mesa-diverted?17:55
k1l!bumblebee | Samul17:55
DingDongI did a lot of Googling but I can't find any article that talks about optimizing ssd for Ubuntu 13.04 :(17:55
Samulwhat does bumblebee do now?17:56
saleemhi , I get this error/warning message on 12.04 installation http://i.imgur.com/k1W37yr.png , need some help here please17:56
Samulit lets me choose what GPU use17:56
DingDongbumblebee is not being developed now it seems17:56
Samulbut I'm talking about desktop17:56
k1lSamul: its a video driver that works with the nvidia optimus (nvidia + intel)17:56
Samulwindow manager17:56
zangaroowtfasix, chromium troubles17:56
SamulI know17:56
iamnotarobotSamul, it implements nvidia optimus17:56
SamulI know, yeah17:56
Samulbut I'm talking about DESKTOP17:56
Samulnot applications17:56
wtfasixzangaroo: you can install chromium through apt-get, dpkg (for .deb debian packages) and through software centre.17:56
Marleneeis there ubuntu version called = Ubuntu 11.04 x8417:57
k1lSamul: sry, but either you are a beginner or you teach me what to tell you.17:57
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holsteinnot sure if bumblebee is coming to ubuntu, but it is in upstream debian right now17:57
tmmunqoptmizing ssd on arch, all of this should apply to ubuntu: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives17:57
holstein!11.04 | Marlenee17:57
ubottuMarlenee: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on October 28, 2012. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.17:57
Samulk1l: I already have bumblebee!17:57
TJ-wtfasix: Did you see my comment about the LN-032 support?17:58
Samulbut it doesn't matter now17:58
k1lSamul: i was telling you how to solve your video card issue that doesnt let you boot gnome-shell. but if you are not interested in my support that is ok17:58
holsteinSamul: did you get bumblebee from PPA?17:58
Samulyeah17:58
TJ-wtfasix: oh yeah, you did! What kernel version are you using?17:58
CyraxAnyone got any link to a guide how to set up and make a irc server via ubuntu?17:58
holstein!ppa > Samul17:58
ubottuSamul, please see my private message17:58
SamulOK17:58
wtfasixTJ-: 3.2.0-2317:58
SamulI know what is PPA17:59
SamulI took it from PPA17:59
Samul*I've taken17:59
DingDongWhen I was updating Ubuntu 13.04 after install, I noticed two kernal updates with different version, Is it ok I install only the latest version and ignore the other?17:59
wtfasixTJ- Thanks, yes I've seen it, I'm just trying to get it to work without adding new kernels, I'm considering a mainline kernel though17:59
TJ-wtfasix: So use the mainline kernel archive and install the latest mainline stable build, v3.10, reboot to that, and you should be sorted (based on my reading of the commit history and patches)17:59
Marleneeholstein : what is kind of CPU that ubuntu x8418:00
ikoniaDingDong: it will only install one kernel - the current update18:00
Samulk1l: in final, what do I have to do for run GNOME3?18:00
TJ-wtfasix: You won't get it to work without that - the support is in the recent module.18:00
holsteinMarlenee: probably a typo18:00
holsteinSamul: ppa's are unsupported sources18:00
wtfasixTJ-, I'm going to make it last resort if manual compiling of asix doesn't work. Because of what lacking kernel support would it not work using asix (or recompiled asix from that .tw site) module?18:00
DingDongThanks ikonia. I saw that Ubunut have repo servers in this restrictive country. How is it maintained? Isn't that unsafe?18:00
k1lSamul: install gnome-shell, make sure video card does support 3d, choose at login screen. but im out of that ticket now18:00
SamulI've already installed gnome-shell18:01
ikoniaDingDong: why would it be unsafe ?18:01
DingDongWhat if the gov. modifies packages?18:01
ikoniaDingDong: they can't18:01
Marleneeholstein : what is the best this version = Ubuntu 11.04 x84 or this = Ubuntu 11.04 x6418:01
TJ-wtfasix: 10 minutes to install the Ubuntu mainline kernel prebuilt and configured correctly. The kernel interfaces do change over time; building against 3.2 headers might work, but might need other support from more recent kernels18:02
Samulbooh?18:02
holsteinMarlenee: as the link i gave suggests, *all* 11.04 versions are EOL18:02
xanguaMarlenee: 11.04 is no longer supportedf18:02
DingDongSo, these packages before installed are check with Ubuntu main servers?18:02
holsteinMarlenee: i would get 12.04 or 13.0418:02
ikoniaDingDong: they are gpg signed18:02
MonkeyDustMarlenee  no longer supported, as in: "dead"18:02
DingDongOk. So if there is a change in the signature it won't be installed?18:03
ikoniaDingDong: I think you need to address your paranioa18:03
wtfasixTJ- Thanks alot! I'll try some more to get known to linux again and if it doesn't work I'll try your solution.18:03
ikoniaDingDong: the gonvernment don't control the mirrors, they have no access to the gpg signing process,18:03
Samulwould someone like to help me?18:04
Marleneeholstein : let say if i install one of them - then i want to upgarde it to latest verion of ubuntu can that be happen18:04
DingDongOk. I will change the servers to US just to be safe before I install updates.18:04
holsteinMarlenee: dont.. just get the latest version of ubuntu18:04
MonkeyDust!eolupgrades | Marlenee18:05
ubottuMarlenee: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:05
DingDongThanks for the help everyone. Have a nice day.18:05
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SolarAquarioni am having issue connecting to the display server18:09
SolarAquarioncurrently using weechat-curses18:09
ElFizbanioI'd get windows on a good computer18:10
daftykinscare to provide a bit more information, SolarAquarion ?18:10
SolarAquarioni am using ubuntu 13.0418:10
SolarAquariondaftykins: it's going to the low energy graphic screen always18:11
SolarAquarionor something18:11
SolarAquarionlow graphics18:11
SolarAquarionI have a modern Pentium18:11
SolarAquariondaftykins: i'm doing weechat full screen so i can't post logs or whatever18:12
daftykinsSolarAquarion: which ubuntu and what graphics?18:12
daftykinsyou mean on a TTY?18:13
[Gentoo]SolarAquarion: just to let you know you can18:13
SolarAquariondaftykins: kubuntu 13.04 and intel graphics18:13
SolarAquariondaftykins: yes18:13
SolarAquarion[Gentoo]: i could go to tt318:13
SolarAquarionbut how do i upload a file18:13
[Gentoo]SolarAquarion: install wgetpaste or similar program18:14
[Gentoo]and do wgetpaste /var/log/ logs18:14
holsteinpastebinit should still work18:14
[Gentoo]yeah any of them18:14
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TJ-SolarAquarion: pastebinit (the package and a command) will pipe stdout or read a file and send it to the configured/preferred pastebin web site, and show you the URL18:15
King_DuckZso, creating symlinks around didn't help, even if I can trick it into thinking QtMultimedia is there then the build fails18:15
King_DuckZshould I report a bug about this?18:15
King_DuckZalthough I must get it to work soon, I can't wait for the bug to be fixed :(18:16
Marleneeholstein : as i understand from page you paste about EOL ; i can upgrade from EOL version to latest version as iam right18:16
TJ-King_DuckZ: I read up on that issue. It seems that QtMultimedia is only in Qt5 packages. And from reading the Nokia documentation it seems that QtMultimedia is the low-level support, and QtMultimediaKit is the higher-level API.18:16
holsteinMarlenee: why would you not just get the lates? there is no good reason to install 11.10 and upgrade..18:17
holsteinlatest*18:17
SolarAquarion[Gentoo]: what should i upload?18:18
Marleneeholstein : because its only latest version of ubuntu i can install on ssh from provider18:18
[Gentoo]Xorg.0.log18:18
King_DuckZTJ-: then I don't understand why it works on 2 unrelated distros and why FindQt4.cmake makes mention of it18:19
holsteinMarlenee: i would talk to the provider, or get a different one.. those are EOL.. and they are not "ubuntu" necessarily.. ubuntu is ubuntu.. you likely have a customized version that they will support18:19
King_DuckZTJ-: I see most users on the internet reporting this issue are just hardcoding the -I/usr/include/QtMultimediaKit, which is so not portable18:20
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King_DuckZTJ-: I mean, I understand all they've been through at the Qt team, with the upcoming Qt5 and all, but this just looks like a bad packaging to me18:20
nowfeelHello18:21
Marleneeholstein : do you know good provider18:21
TJ-King_DuckZ: From what I can see Debian only build libqt4-multimedia for the HPPA architecture as an unofficial port: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libqt4-multimedia18:22
holsteinMarlenee: i just run my own... and "good" is a matter of opinion and use case... linode is one i hear a lot about18:22
TJ-King_DuckZ: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/07/msg00160.html18:22
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Marleneeholstein : can we PM18:24
TJ-King_DuckZ: The inference to be taken from that Debian maintainer's mailing-list post is that the name difference is to avoid a clash between an original "Qt Multimedia" and the newer "Qt Mobility" package18:24
King_DuckZTJ-: look here: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qtmultimedia.html if you scroll down it says to do the QT += multimedia thing, but the link you reported earlier says it doesn't work http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/5348, hence the ugly hardcoded path workaround18:24
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TJ-King_DuckZ: Which version of Qt are you working with? That link is for v4.818:25
viktechhi, does ubuntu 11.10 have native ntfs read support?18:25
viktech:<18:25
ikoniaviktech: 11.10 is dead18:25
ikoniaviktech: it's EOL18:25
viktechi know18:25
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viktechthats not my question18:26
ikoniaviktech: ok, so it's support has also ended18:26
blzviktech, the point is that you're not going to get support for it18:26
viktechi only have an 11.10 image to work with and im trying to make it work18:26
viktechok thanks anyway18:26
King_DuckZTJ-: officially we support 4.7, but we all use 4.8.x to develop18:26
King_DuckZTJ-: I'm reading the link you gave18:26
blzviktech, it might be an exercise in futility.  I don't even know if there are still repos up for 11.1018:26
TJ-King_DuckZ: Qt5 in Ubuntu Raring and Saucy provides QtMultimedia in /usr/include/qt5/QtMultimedia/*18:27
viktechi see18:27
blzviktech, why do you absolutely need 11.10?18:27
MonkeyDust11.10 is not even an LTS18:29
viktechbecause i have only an 11.10 bootcd and i need to perform this operation here and now.  i dont have the means to dl 13 right now18:29
TJ-King_DuckZ: This thread seems very informative, especially its links. See especially comment #4 which says "Qt Multimedia never got shipped as part of Qt" http://code.google.com/p/monav/issues/detail?id=8818:29
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TJ-King_DuckZ: If QtMultimedia was an extension to core Qt4 then that'd maybe explain why it wasn't packaged18:30
blzviktech, look for ntfs-3g in the repos18:30
blzviktech, `aptitude search ntfs-3g`18:31
blzviktech, if that's not in there anywhere, then I have no further ideas =/18:31
titiriterohello, everyone18:31
cemerickWhere should I put `synclient` invocations so that they'll be applied at startup?18:31
titiriterohow use xephyr ?18:31
titiriteroI need gdm.conf and xorg.conf18:31
titiriterofor example18:31
titiriteroplease, I need help18:32
King_DuckZTJ-: unfortunately we can't switch to qt5... I'm only employed since last week and I can't take decisians like that unfortunately :( I just got selected to fix the build on sabayon and by doing that I broke the one on ubuntu as I removed the hardcoded paths18:32
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blz!patience|titiritero18:32
ubottutitiritero: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/18:32
titiriteroI want to install xephyr on ubuntu18:33
titiritero13.0418:33
TJ-King_DuckZ: I'm afraid you'll have to take it up with the Debian package maintainer; they will know all the ins and outs, and what potential workarounds there are. Can't you implement that workaround I found earlier and conditionally alter the code path in the build script if being built on Debian/Ubuntu?18:33
viktech"ntfs-3g is included in the default Ubuntu installation, because the virtual ubuntu-standard package depends on it. " blz  you were right though, 11.10 does not have native write support and the repos to get those packages are not up18:33
TJ-King_DuckZ: You could do a simple test of /etc/issue for the distro name18:33
titiriteromore, the tutorials I look18:33
King_DuckZTJ-: I did find some FindQt4Extension.cmake file on google indeed, but I skipped over it... I wonder if using such file would help me18:34
titiriteronot funttion18:34
viktechall i need  to do i read the fs though, so ntfs-3g is exactly it.  thanks for the help blz18:34
blzviktech, good, hope it works =)18:34
King_DuckZTJ-: that's a more and more appealing solution tbh... I wanted to be clean, but it looks like it's quite messy18:34
TJ-King_DuckZ: Good luck with it; I know how infuriating it is setting up cross-platform build scripts!18:34
MonkeyDusttitiritero  try    sudo apt-get install xserver-xephyr18:35
King_DuckZTJ-: heh thanks :)18:35
titiriterohello MonkeyDust .!18:35
TJ-King_DuckZ: I know that urge, it causes lots of lost sleep as I try to wrestle a perfect solution instead of a quick hack!18:35
titiriteroyou use xephyr18:35
blzviktech, have a look on google to see if you can find some old .debs for ntfs-3g laying around18:35
blzviktech, oh wait. sorry I misread18:35
viktech^^18:35
MonkeyDusttitiritero  no, don't use it, found it in the repos, because you asked18:35
blzviktech, sound slike you're in luck.  You should be able to mount using the `mount` command, specifying ntfs-3g as your driver18:36
titiriteroMonkeyDust: ... my problem is the config18:36
titiritero:(18:36
titiriteroI not know config xephyr18:36
King_DuckZTJ-: that's why I'm cleaning the cmake files in the first place... there's lots of if (fedora) else if (win32) else if(ubuntu)... and I have to add sabayon to that, but cmake is supposed to ease that mess I said, so here I am18:36
TJ-King_DuckZ: sucker :D *runs and hides18:37
Orxata_Hellow18:37
King_DuckZTJ-: besides portage from gentoo has no QtMultimediaKit (as per comment #4), which seems weird as they normally have all the bleeding edge packages18:37
King_DuckZTJ-: lol18:37
TJ-King_DuckZ: I suspect you're suffering from the move from proprietary to totally free and the non-core API/library changes... lots of churn18:38
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MarleneeUbuntu 12.04.2 LTS is still support from ubuntu18:39
Orxata_I have a problem w ith .gifs and .jpgs18:40
Orxata_well, with images in general18:40
King_DuckZOrxata_: me too, I wish everybody just used png >.<18:41
Orxata_Which are your symptoms, King_DuckZ?18:41
King_DuckZTJ-: I think I'm doing it, I'll just close my eyes and type the dreaded if :)18:41
King_DuckZOrxata_: I get itchy whenever I see a gif18:42
Orxata_:d18:42
submanI'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop.  I've successfully installed 12.04, set everything up successfully on this machine before, but now when I try to re-install 12.04, the installer hangs at 'Installing System'.  I'm using the very same usb stick and installing to the same partition.  No hardware has changed.18:42
King_DuckZOrxata_: if it's an animated gif about some cute cat being mass-mailed to the world then I even have to refrain from tossing my computer off the top of the building18:43
Guest22327subman: try recreating your thumbdrive instaler18:43
Orxata_I completely understand you , King_DuckZ18:43
submanGuest22327, you mean reburn the usb thumbdrive?  Why would that make any difference?18:44
wtfasixTJ-: I just was succesful adding a sitecom LN-032 *without* having to use a mainline kernel. Solution: wget http://www.asix.com.tw/FrootAttach/driver/AX88179_178A_LINUX_DRIVER_v1.5.0_SOURCE.tar.bz2; tar -xvjpf AX*; apt-get module-assistant; module-assistant prepare; modprobe -r asix; cd AX*; make; make install; modprobe asix; new eth1 popped up and is usable18:44
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wtfasixThanks for your help anyway, its great! Please someone record this solution, someone who has a forum/wiki username18:45
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wtfasixit works with all sitecom/asix chips18:45
BoomerBilehow can i tell if i'm running 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?18:55
King_DuckZBoomerBile: from a console type uname -a18:56
King_DuckZBoomerBile: uname -m actually18:56
BoomerBilei was going to say -a didn't really specify18:56
BoomerBilehmm, ok mayhap it did18:57
King_DuckZBoomerBile: yeah it does, it's just there but not very visible :)18:57
BoomerBilei686 is 32 bit i'm assuming ?18:57
TJ-King_DuckZ: Actually, not quite accurate. "uname -m" will tell you the architecture of the Linux kernel, but it doesn't follow that userspace is the same. The kernel can be 64-bit but userspace is 32-bit18:57
zykotick9King_DuckZ: technically that's not correct (that shows kernel, but you can run a 64bit kernel with 32bit userland), the real way is "dpkg --print-architecture"18:57
King_DuckZTJ-: o.o18:57
TJ-^^^ what zykotick9 said ^^^18:58
ShaneOhello everyone. I am using shared connection to run a ethernet cable to a test server I have at home. Could anyone suggest how to make it publicly accessible? I have opened the 80 port in my router and set the application name as the servers IP and it is unable to be accessed publicly18:58
BoomerBileif i was running 64 bit i'm assuming it would say x86_64 or x64 right?18:58
King_DuckZTJ-: like a 32 bit kde running on top of a 64 bit kernel?18:58
BoomerBileyeah you can do such things18:58
King_DuckZBoomerBile: yes... or at least if the kernel was 64 bit18:58
BoomerBilei have to guess i'm running 32 bit, i686 and i386 were returned18:59
BoomerBile3.5 is the newest kernel available?18:59
TJ-King_DuckZ: I have 32-bit userlands installed on bootable USB sticks, but have both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels. That means it'll work and support full memory size and devices18:59
AleksEst3.5 for 12.0418:59
King_DuckZBoomerBile: on ubuntu I don't know, but I'm sure at least 3.10 is out18:59
yolandrehi. can anyone provide some advice regarding a dual-boot ubuntu 13.04 x64 installation?19:00
AleksEst3.8 for 13.1019:00
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King_DuckZTJ-: I would still say you're running a 64 bit system tho... even if you have 32 bit X11 or whatever is included in userland19:00
SolarAquarionI missed what I had to paste19:01
SolarAquarioncould you please help19:01
BoomerBilenot much different than running 32 bit apps on a 64 bit system really19:01
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SolarAquarionbecause of the fact that my graphics isn't working19:01
TJ-King_DuckZ: *on* a 64-bit enabled CPU yes; but all userspace will be using 32-bit mode with all the limitations that has as to memory layout etc19:01
King_DuckZTJ-: it's like running 32-bit steam when 64 bit wasn't available, sure you got a bunch of 32 dependencies being invoked but my system was 64 bit19:01
SolarAquarionor something19:01
BoomerBilewhat is this ~precise 1 mean?19:02
TJ-King_DuckZ: 32-bit userland has a 3GB limit on memory (1GB reserved for kernel in usual cases)19:02
BoomerBileunless you are running pae then it's 64 gig19:03
King_DuckZTJ-: thanks for helping, I'm going home for today19:04
King_DuckZbye!19:04
snolluxIf i'm trying to make a .deb control file for a package, and my uname says "Linux VirtualBox 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux", what do I put in the control file to indicate the .deb is for this general kind of archicecture?19:05
BoomerBilenow if i could figure out why my bluetooth dongle stopped working19:05
BoomerBilebiab reboot19:07
Orxata_I'm having trouble trying to visualize images, both with a browser or an image viewer19:07
resureIs there any official guide for switching from Ubuntu to Kubuntu?19:07
streulmafont smoothing on a retina is not so good if I scale to 1650px19:07
linuxliamhas anyone packaged aptana for ubuntu ? i'd do it but no idea how19:08
streulmalinuxliam: what is aptana ?19:09
blazemorelinuxliam: It doesn't look like they have. There are instructions available on the web to install it: http://www.samclarke.com/2012/04/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin/19:10
Your_Dragon113isn't that a sweetener or something?19:10
blazemoreresure: All you have to do is do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"19:10
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blazemoreresure: There's no official documentation, but if you want to get rid of original Ubuntu entirely and install kubuntu instead without losing all your programs and stuff, there are instructions here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu19:11
linuxliamstreulma: aptana is an amazing IDE for multiple programming languages19:12
streulmalinuxliam: like Eclipse ?19:12
linuxliamyea ]19:13
Marleneewhat is the diffrecne betwwen = Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and  = Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)19:13
streulma!LTS Marlenee19:13
SolarAquarionI am having issues starting my X11 on 13.0419:14
streulma!LTS19:14
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)19:14
SolarAquarioncurrently in TTY2 with weechat19:14
resureblazemore: thanks19:14
PiciMarlenee: One year. 12.04 was released in April (04) 2012, and 13.04 was released in April 201319:14
linuxliamblazemore: i know it be installed easily im trying to make a .deb package for other users19:15
gillzonim having weaker signal strenght on my WIFI-card in ubuntu than windows and cant found a solution. I have Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 623519:16
linuxliamMarlenee: LTS also means long term support (also feature older versions of apps but in general this helps because more bugs can be found and corrected over time thus making it more stable to use  )19:18
MarleneePici : is  Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS good for ssh server19:19
PiciMarlenee: Sure19:20
BurrdyHey guys19:20
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BurrdyAnyone here handy with UFW and configuring the firewall rules?19:21
BurrdyI understand it alright, but I have a few simple questions.19:21
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tmmunqask. i may be able to help. ive used it before but ultimately settles on shorewall19:22
BurrdyWhy would I want to "Reject" instead of "Deny"?? Does "Reject" discourage the web server from sending you any more network packets? Like, what is the difference between them (other than blocking network packets) and what are the advantages to both? And how can I lock down my firewall to deny all incoming/outgoing ports except for basic Internet usage?19:24
BurrdyFOr the last part, i just needed someone to confirm my hypothesis.19:24
MarleneePici : what is best in your opinion for ssh server Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS  or   Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)19:27
tmmunqreject is more 'polite' but it reveals to a malicious person that there is a server at that IP. for the second part, yes you can do it, but you need to define basic internet usage for you. you can block all incoming connections and set the policy for outgoing to REJECT or DROP+LOG. HTTP(S) at minimum, maybe ping, ssh, & ftp19:27
PiciMarlenee: Their ssh servers are exactly the same.  It all depends on whatever else is going to be installed and if you mind that 13.04 will reach end of life sooner than 12.0419:28
maheanuuGood Morning, I a in the process of setting up a new laptop (Toshiba SS875-S7356) I can connect using Cat5, but not wireless the computer is not seeing my NetGear wireless modem19:28
tmmunqwhat wireless device? do you know?19:29
MarleneePici : ok will choose Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS19:29
maheanuutmmunq, I am running a NETGEAR73 modem19:29
IsaacLewisMy computer won't install updates or software. It is an ubuntu 12.04.19:29
tmmunqi mean in the laptop19:30
IsaacLewisplease help19:30
maheanuutmmunq, I don't know what command will i need for the terminal?19:30
tmmunqlspci19:30
daftykinsmaheanuu: lsusb if it's a USB attached dongle19:30
maheanuutmmunq, ok brb19:31
mead0w1Just installed ubuntu to my 32gb usb memory. Time to install it alongside w8 =D19:31
IsaacLewiserm19:31
tmmunqgood luck with that, didn't know you could install win8 on usb19:32
mead0w1Yup19:32
sam_Unable to eject cd normally. Not even able to remove it from terminal.19:32
sam_~ # eject /dev/cdrom19:32
sam_eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device19:32
IsaacLewishello?19:32
skorasaurussam_ there may be a small hole on the outer cd drive slot.19:33
daftykinsIsaacLewis: what happens if you run the terminal program, then type 'sudo apt-get update' (and enter the password when it asks) ?19:33
skorasaurusbend a paperclip and insert it in the very small hole.19:33
skorasaurusshould be the size of a pin.19:33
sam_skorasaurus: I already searched for it. It is not there.19:33
IsaacLewisit does what it normally does19:34
IsaacLewisdaftykins: it does what it normally does19:34
daftykinsIsaacLewis: successfully?19:35
IsaacLewisyeah19:35
IsaacLewisno errors19:35
daftykinsIsaacLewis: so what were you trying to install any by what means?19:35
IsaacLewisbut when I try to install software or use update manager or synaptic it won't let me do it19:35
daftykinsany = and19:35
IsaacLewisI was trying to install updates19:36
daftykinswhat happens upon running update manager?19:36
maheanuutmmunq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5982392/19:36
streulmaIsaacLewis: the programs cannot be opened at the same time, if updae manager opened, close synaptic19:36
IsaacLewisIt opens normally but when I click install updates it doesn't do anything19:36
IsaacLewisthey're not19:36
streulmaIsaacLewis: better is to close al and do an update from Synaptic (check updates and then mark, and apply)19:37
daftykinsIsaacLewis: try running the update manager from within a terminal to see if it is getting stuck at a given issue19:37
daftykinsIsaacLewis: otherwise you could just update via command line and see if it goes away19:37
IsaacLewishow do I open it via terminal?19:38
daftykinsIsaacLewis: "update-manager" at a guess, i don't know the name19:38
IsaacLewisI mean what's the command?19:39
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daftykinsIsaacLewis: oh, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'19:40
maheanuutmmunq, did you see the paste for the command I pasted?19:40
LuzbelitoHello, im running ubuntu 13.04, and do not know why ive lost any interaction with the windows. compiz crashed, and dont have dash or upper panel19:40
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Luzbelitoi'vae googled and tried several suggestions, but nothing yet19:41
Luzbelitoany idea?19:41
daftykinsis a restart not an option?19:41
sam_I solved it. I was able to eject the CD. the command I used was sudo eject -r .19:42
maheanuutmmunq,  I completely removed Windoze8 from the maching and am only running 12.04.2LTS19:42
ayoubhi19:42
tmmunqim guess its this one, 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 872319:43
tmmunqit looks like the driver isn't identifying it correctly, it might not be supported yet19:44
maheanuuI am having a problem with my laptop  not recognizing my wireless modem running under Ubuntu 12.04.2LTS , the computer is a Model S875 and windoze8 has been totally removed and the disk reformatted and running only Ubuntu 12.04.219:46
maheanuutmmunq, sorry I didn't see your posts, how do I report this, or find drivers for the puter19:47
daftykinsmaheanuu: google for a guide on installing a driver for the 'realtek 8723'19:48
maheanuuI talked to Toshiba and they were perfectly willing to reinstall Windoze8, but I said no Thanks I would run Cat5 till Hell froze over before I would run Doze19:49
Vivekanandahey everyone I run eclipse juno ( not installed) on 12.04. on building a hello world dynamic web app and opening a browser to see it eclipse crashes. Where so I look for the dump files ?19:49
IsaacLewismaheanuu: please stop calling it windoze819:49
daftykinsIsaacLewis: it's not that big a deal ;) is the CLI upgrade working?19:50
IsaacLewisdaftykins: it says it's still going to take 40 mins19:50
daftykinsVivekananda: i think a java/eclipse channel would be a little more relevant than here19:50
Luzbelitohello. I'm running ubuntu 13.04. When I boot the system a log appears: No System Tray Detected on This System. exiting.19:51
LuzbelitoAnd from there i got no dash nor upper panel19:51
Luzbelito I've googled but could'nt find any real solution19:51
Vivekanandadaftykins: yes I know but it is not the eclipse .log I am looking for coz I already got that. I am looking for the core dump linux files when the eclipse crashed. Should I ask that there too ?19:51
daftykinsLuzbelito: did you install some HP drivers?19:52
maheanuuIsaacLewis, Sorry I didn't mean to offend you, I just don't like crap OS's19:52
LuzbelitoI've got hplip running without problem19:52
daftykinsLuzbelito: look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101828/no-system-tray-detected-on-this-system19:52
daftykinsVivekananda: it wouldn't hurt19:53
IsaacLewismaheanuu: I just have a hate for things that are spelled wrong, I think windows 8 is horrible too19:53
daftykinsVivekananda: also ask about running eclipse in a terminal to watch for any debug output when it crashes19:53
maheanuuI don't spell it wrong except for derision19:54
Luzbelitodaftykins, how can I open that file for edition?19:54
IsaacLewisokee19:54
daftykinsLuzbelito: "sudo nano /file/"19:54
Luzbelitook19:54
Vivekanandak19:55
Marissahi19:55
daftykinshi19:55
Marissacan someone help me with my memory program on ubuntu?19:56
daftykinsMarissa: please describe your problem19:56
Marissai have a VPS with not a lot of RAM, and it always runs out, but i cant find out why19:56
Marissai dont have any memory-hungry programs19:56
thestonerwhat distro u using?19:57
Marissarunning "free" shows a large number by cache19:57
Marissa12.0419:57
thestonerya but i mean like which distro like backbox ubuntu mint19:57
Marissaubuntu server i assume?19:57
daftykinsMarissa: do programs crash, or do you just see high usage? have you seen www.linuxatemyram.com ?19:57
Marissadaftykins: apt-get wont install anything with an error: FATAL: failed to fork19:58
Marissai wouldnt care otherwise19:58
thestonerwell an ubuntu based distro i recommend is backbox linux its very light weight19:58
daftykinsMarissa: how much RAM + which version?19:58
Marissa256 MB19:58
icelite  hello19:59
MarissaI'm trying to figure out which version exactly19:59
Marissait has no GUI afaik19:59
LuzbelitoDaftykins. i've run gnome-session-properties19:59
daftykinsMarissa: cat /etc/lsb-release19:59
Luzbelitoand opened a graphic version. Unchecked HP19:59
nicofsI need a little help setting my screen resolution. The one I need is not there (1280x720) and I can't add it with xrandr ("X Error of failed request:  BadMatch") - please help!19:59
MarissaUbuntu 12.04 LTS19:59
Luzbelitobut still the same19:59
Marissa"precise"19:59
daftykinsLuzbelito: you've got to reboot, right?20:00
daftykinsMarissa: it doesn't say 12.04.2 ?20:00
Marissa12.04.0120:00
daftykinsMarissa: can you update after a fresh reboot?20:00
Marissa*just the 120:00
Luzbelitoyes, I did that steps yesterday20:00
Luzbelitoand nothing20:00
Marissawhen I reboot the memory is almost totally free20:00
Luzbelitonaw i'm running on enlightenment20:00
Marissabut it's such a pain to reboot every time I have to run apt-get20:00
Luzbelitobut I really want the unity back20:01
daftykinsMarissa: i'd reboot, fully apt-get dist-upgrade, then see if it goes away20:01
Marissaok, i'll try that20:01
Marissathanks, brb!20:01
daftykinsnp20:01
richwestcoastpne of the avatar20:01
richwestcoaststarted20:01
daftykinsLuzbelito: right but did you restart today... after doing what the link i pasted said to do?20:01
bladerunnerrr04Hi has anyone had problems getting ubuntuone working on linux lite20:01
daftykinsbladerunnerrr04: unfortunately there is no support for anything based on Ubuntu here, only Ubuntu itself20:03
bladerunnerrr04ok many thanks20:03
juniourhi20:04
IsaacLewishello20:04
juniourhi i have sandisk 4gig pen drive , its write-protected how to reove write protection20:05
juniour??20:05
IsaacLewislike a flash drive?20:05
Luzbelitodaftykins, couldn't found the route for startup settings.  just for load the graphical edition. And that's what did yesterday. I'll try edit sh -c "sleep 15; exec hp-systray",  if i'd knew the route20:05
juniourIsaacLewis yep flash drive20:07
daftykinsLuzbelito: what do you mean by 'knew the route' - do you need help with how to make that change?20:07
daftykinsjuniour: is there a little sliding tab on it to set the write protect?20:08
Luzbelitoplease!20:08
juniourdaftykins no switch is there, i checked already20:08
daftykinsLuzbelito: if you press ctrl+alt+t does a terminal window open on that computer?20:09
brainpaiddhallo everyone20:09
drcooperCould anyone recommend a usb TV tuner card that would work out of the box on 12.0420:09
LuzbelitoI've got a terminal opened. I know that if I write sudo kgedit and the route I could open and midify that entry20:09
daftykinsright20:10
reisiodrcooper: I think the mythtv guys keep lists20:10
IsaacLewisdaftykins: what is this actually doing, the upgrade thing?20:10
Luzbelitobut i do not know what is the name of that config file20:10
daftykinsIsaacLewis: upgrading every installed package20:11
IsaacLewisah20:11
juniourplz help how to remove write-procetion from flash drive20:11
IsaacLewisthis is taking a while20:11
MonkeyDustjuniour  I had the samle iss20:12
MonkeyDustjuniour  I had the samle issue20:12
daftykinsLuzbelito: ah i see what you mean. type "sudo updatedb" then enter your password, then after that type "locate hp-systray"20:12
drcooperreisio, been throught that list. Hauppauge cards are not available where I live and avermedia drivers have problems with 3.x kernel as far as i could gather20:12
MonkeyDustjuniour  I used Startup Disk Creator to erase the disk20:12
juniourMonkeyDust ohh20:12
sahilthis is weird..i have two wine directory... .wine and wine...dicovered it just now when i installed an app that was not in the wine directory but when i browsed via "browse c drive" of wine ,which in turn took me to .wine diectory the application was present....clicking ctrl+h showed .wine and wine existing together... :/20:13
juniourles t metry20:13
reisiodrcooper: that's nice20:13
Luzbelitosudo update20:13
drcoopersahil directories starting with a dot are hidden ones20:13
drcooper.wine is where the so called c drive directory is along with wine configs20:14
juniourMonkeyDust when i clicked on erase, it says file system on read only mode, any idea20:14
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juniour??20:14
nl287juniour: in xubuntu works20:15
juniournl287 what??20:15
drcooperjunior, can you open a terminal, issue "mount" command and get the output?20:16
sahilyes i know...shouldnt they be the same thing.. i mean by default wine directory is hidden = .wine. i explicitly removed the dot to make it visible few week ago. now some apps were missing from the wine directory when i enabled show hidden files it revealed another "hiddden " wine directory co existing with not hidden wine directory...new apps are getting installed in the hidden directory...20:16
minidinoMy partition table is messed up. However, the data should still be fine and I know where at least some of the partitions are supposed to start/end. If use dd to copy the section of the disk that should be an extended partition would I be able to then mount this image? I don't know a lot about how extended partitions work.20:16
nl287juniour: on xubuntu there is not protection20:16
daftykinssahil: you can't rename .wine - that will break it. it needs to be called that20:16
Marissadaftykins: are you still there? I just upgrade to 12.04.2 and still all my memory is in the cache20:16
drcoopersahil wine the program expects the .wine directory20:16
Marissaand it doesnt want to give it to apt-get either20:16
sahili just removed the  DOT20:16
sahilto make it visible  :o20:17
daftykinsMarissa: if you don't have much stuff on that VPS - is reinstalling from scratch an option?20:17
drcoopersahil, renaming wont make wine use that directory20:17
CyraxWhere can i find a complete guide how to make a irc server on ubuntu?20:17
nl287juniour: u need to install xubuntu20:17
MarissaI just reinstalled today20:17
Marissai had the problem before a reinstall too20:17
daftykinsMarissa: really? so it's got practically nothing on it?20:17
drcooperif u want a visible wine directory, make a symlink20:17
Marissait has my irc on it, which will take a while to setup again20:17
daftykinsMarissa: who is this VPS hosted with? have you tried asking them about it?20:17
Marissai havent tried to ask them yet20:18
elderxnl287: what xubuntu has to do with write protection ?20:18
Marissais it possible that this is something only they can fix?20:18
juniourdrcooper take a look output of "mount" http://pastebin.com/0A5ns15m20:18
Marissatheir ubuntu has other weird stuff, like mysql doesnt want to install20:18
daftykinsMarissa: can you pastebin a 'free -m' ?20:18
sahil<drcooper><daftykins> all right so wine directory needs to remain hidden indirectly...i get it..so how should i merge both the directory? considering  90% stuff is same ?20:18
nl287elderx: i'm not sure but works20:19
Marissahttp://pastebin.com/M7LUrap320:19
nicofsI need help with my screen resolution... please help. I need to add one but it fails...20:19
daftykinsMarissa: i guess it depends what setup they're using to understand more what's wrong20:19
juniourdrcooper  ???20:19
nl287elderx: maybe DRM?20:19
sahil<nicofs>  more info please20:19
eph3meralso I've got a VPN that my mac connects to just fine, but my Ubuntu box with (seemingly) the same credentials says connection failed20:20
Marissathere just a ton of memory in the cache that for some reason doesnt go to apt-get when i need in20:20
daftykinsMarissa: i think something else is going on. have a quick read of www.linuxatemyram.com20:20
anomalyI have TCPKeepAlive active, but seems my ssh connections are still timing out.  the internet on either end is functional.  what am I missing?20:20
drcooperjunior problem appears to be remount-ro on your /20:20
nicofssahil, nvidia driver, I need 1280x720 but it's not there...20:21
daftykinsMarissa: could you pastebin 'top' as well?20:21
juniourplz help how to remove write protection20:21
Marissahttp://pastebin.com/nzYCkYeT20:21
daftykinsdrcooper: highlight typo20:21
sahil<nicofs> xrandr -s 1280x72020:21
CyraxHow do I set up a irc server on ubuntu? any complete guide for that?20:22
Ari-Yangnot sure, something you have to google, Cyrax20:22
drcooperjunior output of "cat /etc/fstab"20:22
juniourCyrax install a irc client20:22
Ari-Yangdepends on what your using to setup an irc server, doubt what OS you're doing it on matters.20:22
thestonercyrax lmao beast name bro20:23
_Trullocyrax; https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html20:23
Ari-Yangjuniour, he means irc /server/20:23
Ari-Yang.__.20:23
TJ-Cyrax: "apt-cache search ircd" will list several IRC servers20:23
juniourohh20:23
drcoopersahil you will have to copy over your c drive folders into .wine20:23
nicofssahil, that only works in part. if i maximise any window now, it's still 1920px wide and goes beyond my screen...20:23
daftykinsMarissa: there's definitely something quirky going on there. i'd backup my quassel config if i were you and then ask the VPS company what's going on - maybe they have some guides on their website as to things that have to be done with their VPS' though?20:23
drcoopersahil then create a symlink to .wine directory called Wine20:23
juniour??20:23
juniouranyone have issue on write-procetion??20:24
Cyraxno no.. not that.. i mean a guide how to set one up20:24
drcooperjunior give me "cat /etc/fstab"20:24
daftykinsCyrax: i'm sure google will present plenty20:24
TJ-Cyrax: configuration will depend upon *which* ircd you install. Read its installation guide, which will be with the installed package20:25
sahil<drcooper>  former will be a better idea..anyway is there  any provison of"merging directory" via cli ? just asking for knowledge20:25
TJ-Cyrax: Basic documentation for all installed packages gets installed in /usr/share/doc/<package-name>/ there is usually a README and/or INSTALL guide, at a minimum20:26
sahilnicofs> whats your monitors native resolution20:26
nicofssahil, 1920x108020:26
juniourdrcooper http://pastebin.com/JstKgmJ320:27
l01_Hello, I have just installed 13.04 amd64. When I install software, I get the error that some packages have invalid signature. What can I do?20:28
juniourdrcooper any idea20:29
juniour??20:29
juniourwrite-protection issue, need help :)20:29
daftykinsjuniour: pastebin 'df -h' and 'ls -l /media' please20:30
TJ-juniour: At what level is the write-protect? Is it a hardware switch? A file-system mounted with read-only option? Permissions within a file-system only being read-only ?20:30
IsaacLewisdaftykins: it finished20:30
daftykinsIsaacLewis: there may well be a new kernel installed to reboot into20:31
IsaacLewisit says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)20:31
daftykinso rry20:31
drcooperjunior from what i understand disk errors is causing sda3 to be mounted in read only mode. do you have disk utility program with your installation?20:31
daftykinsIsaacLewis: can you pastebin the lot?20:31
IsaacLewissure20:31
juniourTJ- idont find any switch in the flash drive20:31
IsaacLewiswhat was the link to pastebin something again?20:31
daftykinsdrcooper: how did you get from a flash drive not being writable to questioning his root filesystem? fstab's entry is normal. also you're not tab completing his nick20:32
nicofsIs anyone apt in nvidia driver/settings issues? I have issues setting my display to a specific resolution. I really need help with that...20:32
IsaacLewisit also doesn't show the whole thing on the terminal "history"20:32
daftykinsMarissa: actually, do things function if you stop quassel and apache?20:32
MonkeyDustjuniour  i was away, what's the output of ls -lh [flash drve] | pastebinit ? paste the url here in the channel20:33
daftykinsIsaacLewis: maybe the errors are visible in the portion you can see20:33
juniourdaftykins http://pastebin.com/574PZMbg20:33
IsaacLewisdaftykins: what's the link to the pastebin website>20:33
IsaacLewis?20:33
Marissadaftykins: that frees up 10K or so20:33
daftykinsIsaacLewis: paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com20:34
drcooperdaftykins, his mount output only lists one hard disk device /dev/sda3. I assumed thats the disk with the problem. http://pastebin.com/0A5ns15m20:34
Marissait functions after stopping Apache20:34
daftykinsMarissa: how do free -m and top look with apache stopped?20:35
IsaacLewisdaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5982575/20:35
Marissahttp://pastebin.com/3YcXbdYR20:35
daftykinsIsaacLewis: hrmm are you running 10.04 desktop?20:35
IsaacLewis12.0420:36
Marissaheh, apache is still there in top20:36
daftykinsah just same hostname then20:36
deckard_hello, security question here. I posted an image of my desktop any only after doing so realised it shows my user name "deckard" in the top right. Is this info that could ID me?20:36
daftykinsMarissa: "sudo service apache2 stop" ?20:36
Marissai did that..20:36
Marissabut service apache2 status said it was running again20:36
TJ-juniour: You need to be more specific on what you are trying to do. Is the USB flash drive plugged in now? does it contain just data files or did the PC boot the operating system from it?20:36
daftykinsdeckard_: not since i could guess it from your IRC nickname...20:36
deckard_okay but if they didnt have IRC?20:36
deckard_can just that name do anything?20:37
juniourTJ- yep20:37
Picideckard_: no20:37
daftykinsthen they'd only need your password, so as long as it's not 'deckard' too... ;)20:37
TJ-juniour: "yep" to what?20:37
deckard_like could they use that name to start attacks?20:37
deckard_k, ty20:37
juniourTJ- it contains only some data20:37
daftykinsMarissa: hrmm 'sudo killall apache2' ?20:37
IsaacLewisdaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5982575/20:37
Marissait's gone now20:37
TJ-juniour: OK. Let's see what you've got connected then. pastebin the result of "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"20:37
juniourTJ- it si pluged in now nad only have data no filesystem related data20:37
Marissaso my Apache is broken20:38
Marissaawesome20:38
daftykinsIsaacLewis: 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?20:38
daftykinsMarissa: have you done anything with apache since you reinstalled the VPS cleanly?20:38
Marissano20:38
Marissanot at all20:38
daftykinsinteresting20:38
daftykins'top' now?20:39
IsaacLewisdaftykins: it says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) again20:39
Marissai reinstalled the VPS, installed lamp-server using tasksel, and didnt touch anything20:39
juniourTJ- http://pastebin.com/E7Xvd86x20:39
Marissahttp://pastebin.com/290rvSkX20:39
Marissathey might just be really bad at supporting ubuntu20:39
Marissait came with CentOS20:39
juniourTJ- /dev/sdb1 for flash drive20:40
juniourTJ- is a 4gig sanDisk flash drive20:40
daftykinsMarissa: their VPS tech might have real issues with it. ah ok, so they might not officially support ubuntu?20:40
IsaacLewisI have to go20:40
IsaacLewisbaii20:40
MarissaI installed it using their control panel though20:40
TJ-juniour: According to this "usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0 -> ../../sdb" the device probably doesn't have a partition table; it may not have any file-systems on it. Lets check. Show me the result of "sudo blkid /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0"20:40
daftykinsMarissa: what company is it?20:41
Marissabut then again, their control panel has Debian 4 and 5 which dont even support apt-get anymore20:41
Marissadaftykins: web-xtra20:41
Marissathey were cheap, so i guess you get what you pay for20:41
juniourTJ- no output20:41
TJ-juniour: OK, that just means there is no file-system on there. So, why do you say it is write-protected? What are you doing, specifically, that tells you it is write protected?20:42
kutzuwhat should i use to restart the network, network-manager or networking? network-manager doesn't config one of my eth properly and networking reports "stop: Unkown instance:"20:42
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daftykinsMarissa: mm, i have a VM running a wordpress blog that is consuming similar amounts but operates fine20:43
juniourTJ- i used gparted to format, may be it gparted has done something, but its still write protected :)20:43
Marissait should work fine, your site mentioned that the cache should be freed once a program needs it20:43
Marissabut it doesn't do that apparently, at least when apache is running20:44
TJ-juniour: What program tells you it is write-protected?20:44
daftykinsMarissa: yeah, although yours is spilling into virtual memory as well whilst mine doesn't20:44
daftykinsMarissa: now that apache's ended, can you 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?20:44
juniouri  cant delete file from it20:44
TJ-juniour: But there is nothing on it to delete!20:45
juniourTJ- wait rebooting my system comming back in minute20:45
Marissai thought i just did that20:45
Marissamight as well try again20:45
trismjuniour: sandisk cruzers come with http://u3.sandisk.com/ which you usually have to remove to do anything useful with them (there is a linux tool around here somewhere too but I've never used it)20:46
daftykinsMarissa: i would be interested which address it pulls from for the 'update' stage too20:46
Cyraxoops20:46
minidinois there a wya to get dd to output its progress?20:46
minidino*way20:46
neonlinesaludos20:46
Marissadaftykins: Archive.ubuntu.com apparently? does that sound right20:47
daftykinsMarissa: yeah that's normal20:47
neonlinenobody's here from venezuela?20:48
Marissadaftykins: i'm beginning to think this VPS company doesnt actually support ubuntu20:49
juniourTJ- you there??20:49
daftykinsMarissa: seems possible! i have a great one from bigv.io20:50
Marissait can't be ubuntu's fault because it works for everyone else, it can't be my fault because i literally only typed the two commands from the official ubuntu lamp installation guide and it broke20:50
juniourTJ- ????20:50
Marissadaftykins: do they have EU servers?20:51
MonkeyDustjuniour  he's probably not at his desk20:51
daftykinsMarissa: probably mostly based in England i think20:51
juniourhummm20:51
Marissaahh, they are expensive though, i got this one because it was very very cheap20:51
juniourMonkeyDesk i am tired of this flash drive20:51
juniourMonkeyDust i am tired of this flash drive20:52
Marissai already paid for 3 months though, is my best option now to install centos (what they seemed to install at the start) and see if that works?20:52
daftykinsMarissa: i think so yeah, wouldn't hurt (other than cost time)20:52
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TJ-Marissa: If it is a cheap VPS it is possible that the host's RAM is over-subscribed and that although your instance shows 256MB RAM with plenty available in cache, physically the host can't provide the memory when requested.20:53
MonkeyDustjuniour  i followed it a bit, are all the folders owned by root? then try deleting them with sudo or chown the folders20:53
MarissaTJ-: that's very interesting20:53
Marissabut why is it fixed when I stop Apache?20:53
daftykinsTJ-: i'm not sure that's the case given... http://pastebin.com/290rvSkX20:53
TJ-juniour: http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1102/kw/u3/20:54
Marissai'll keep their helpdesk busy for now and if they dont give a solution i'll cancel my subscription and mess around with centos for the remaining time.. :(20:54
daftykinsMarissa: sorry i couldn't find a solution :( let me know how centos goes20:55
Marissadaftykins: thanks for your help anyway!20:55
Marissaeither way, i learned so much about linux in the last few days and i'm free anyway20:56
daftykinsfree?20:56
Marissayeah it's the big holidays now20:56
daftykinsah :)20:56
Marissai'm a student, they give us 2 months of vacation20:56
Marissai'm too poor to actually go anywhere ;_;20:57
daftykins:(20:57
daftykinswhereabouts are you? europe i guess20:57
Marissaamsterdam20:57
daftykinsah ok20:57
iceliteah hows Holland Marissa20:57
Marissai study computer science so it's very useful to learn this for me :)20:57
daftykinsi'd ask what you study but they tend to get upset with off-topic chat here...20:57
Marissaicelite: rainy but Amsterdam is so pretty20:57
daftykinsoh cool20:57
TJ-daftykins: Marissa: that 'top' output shows only 35MB free.  Did you run "free -m" earlier?20:58
Marissayes, that also showed only 35M free20:58
Marissabut like 200M in cache20:58
TJ-OK20:58
daftykinsTJ-: yeah so i don't think it's over-subscription but some other issue20:58
Marissait might be that their VM software doesnt support ubuntu20:59
Marissai used to run vm box, that had issues with ubuntu as well20:59
Marissabut that was with unity20:59
TJ-daftykins: I've seen it before with OpenVZ based VMs; the host is deliberately configured to over-commit its RAM. Phyiscally it might have 32GB but the total allocated for VMs is (say) 40GB20:59
iceliteMarissa,  are you on a desktop or laptop ?20:59
TJ-Marissa: A VM is a VM, it doesn't care what is running inside it21:00
willowsHey, I noticed that /lib/modules/ is taking up a lot of space. It seems that this is where kernels are kept. Would I be ok to delete all but the 2 most current?21:00
juniourout of luck21:00
Marissaright now on a desktop with Windows 8, but we're talking about Ubuntu server 12.0421:00
daftykinsTJ-: could it be not running a specific kernel variant, if that's how openvz works?21:00
TJ-willows: Yes, that is a sane step21:00
iceliteah ok21:00
juniourTJ- ithink its hardware faliure for my flash drive21:01
TJ-Marissa: Do you know what hypervisor is being used? VZ, Xen, KVM, etc... ?21:01
TJ-juniour: Is there anything on that device you can't afford to lose?21:01
Marissawhat is a hypervisor?21:01
* TJ- facepalms ... students these days! :D ... that's the code that manages the separation of the host into virtual machines21:02
daftykinsMarissa: he basically means to find out what virtualisation tech they're using. 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' might give a clue21:02
willowsTJ-: thanks for the reply21:02
daftykinsTJ-: they gotta start somewhere ;)21:02
TJ-daftykins: Oh I know... I'm a visiting professor ... I get them started :D21:02
juniourTJ- nope but, yes my money i spent to bought it21:03
juniour:)21:03
bantonehey there21:03
TJ-juniour: OK, lets try writing to it then... Are you ready?21:03
juniouryep21:03
Marissadaftykins: what should it say?21:03
daftykinsMarissa: pastebin please21:03
bantoneI got a customer that is getting an issue after a dist-upgrade21:03
bantone'fork: Cannot allocate memory'21:03
FernandoMiguelhi21:03
bantonenot sure why this may be occurring?21:03
bantoneand this is with any application21:04
Marissahttp://pastebin.com/SpLryX7Q21:04
linux2622laptop21:04
juniourTJ- ?? next ??21:04
TJ-juniour: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0 bs=50M"  ... this command will write zeros in blocks of 50MB from the start of the device until it reaches the end of the device21:04
daftykinsMarissa: ah ok that's not giving it away.21:04
TJ-juniour: If that works... which you'll know if the command doesn't exit immediately, will show you can write to the device21:05
daftykinsTJ-: know a good approach to identify the virt tech in use for Marissa's VPS?21:05
Marissadaftykins: hold on, they have three logos on their vps site21:06
Marissaxen, openvz and kvm21:06
saleem!kernel21:06
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)21:06
Marissaso it's one of these21:06
daftykinsMarissa: do any of those names occur in the output from 'uname -a' ?21:06
Marissawhen i go to the control panel, it has a strange logo under "type" that looks exactly like the xen one21:06
TJ-daftykins: They all reveal themselves in special ways, there is a bit of code to do it but I don't recall its name21:06
juniourTJ- got read-only file system21:07
Marissadaftykins: Linux DB05769 2.6.32-042stab078.28 #1 SMP Mon Jul 8 10:17:22 MSK 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:07
TJ-juniour: You mean that command failed?21:07
juniouryep21:07
juniourTJ- no what??21:08
saleemhi, what are the main files/components to choose for a kernel installation from apt/synaptic?21:08
juniourTJ- now wt??21:08
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TJ-juniour: Has that Sandisk Cruzer Blade been used on a Windows system before?21:09
juniouryepp21:09
juniouryep it was used in windows only. i know linux is powerful so i am trying to remove write protection using linux :)21:10
daftykinsMarissa: hrmm i sense it may be openvz but i don't think it's really any use to me i'm afraid21:10
daftykinsMarissa: i'm really not sure how i'd proceed other than asking their support21:10
Marissai've made a ticket on their site21:10
Marissawe'll see tomorrow21:10
Marissai'll go do something else, it';s my holiday after all :)21:11
Marissathanks for all the help!21:11
TJ-Marissa: daftykins: see http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-what/21:11
daftykinsMarissa: i'd be interested to know how it goes.21:11
juniourTJ- got something21:11
trismjuniour: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4653/how-do-i-get-rid-of-u3-system-on-my-usb-drive which I'm guessing is the issue21:12
daftykinsTJ-: thanks21:12
csjanyone here ever used Ubuntu 13.04 on a ThinkPad S431?21:12
TJ-juniour: can you pastebin the output from "lsusb" ?21:13
xangua!anyone | csj21:13
ubottucsj: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:13
csjok, my real question is: is it socially acceptable to open-mouth kiss animals in public? ;)21:13
j03lhey zafrix21:13
csjno, but seriously.. I'm considering buying a ThinkPad S431 and just want to know if there are any issues.21:13
TJ-juniour: I think trism is onto something. You need to install and run the u3_tool.21:14
csjI see the S431 is certified "Enabled" in 12.04.221:14
juniourTJ- http://pastebin.com/kF3pQSak21:14
TJ-juniour: and now, "lsusb -vd 0781:5567"21:16
arooni-mobilehow can I figure out which app is contributing most to load.  I'm looking at htop right now but don't know if I'm just looking for high cpu usage21:17
juniourTJ- http://pastebin.com/HAmmRUhY21:17
mgriffinanyone familiar with phpMyAdmin on 12.04? these docs seem wrong https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/phpmyadmin.html because i think i need to modify /etc/dbconfig-common/phpmyadmin.conf and then dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin21:18
TJ-juniour: OK, "sudo apt-get install u3-tool"21:18
juniourTJ- done21:19
juniournow21:19
juniour??21:20
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TJ-juniour: I'm just reading up on the tool... but try this in the meantime: "sudo u3-tool -p 0 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0"21:21
Praxitrying to understand a permissions command I ran across.  find . -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \;     <--thats saying  In the current directory, find any files, and change their permissions to 755.  What does {} and \ do in the command?21:22
TJ-juniour: That reduces the reserved space for a CD image for the U3 software to 0 bytes, now lets try unlocking the data side: "sudo u3-tool -R /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0"21:22
tmmunq{} is just that commands syntax for the filename21:23
TJ-Praxi:  for each file found, its name is represented by the {} in execution of the command specified21:23
TJ-juniour: now try a write to it, as a test: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0 bs=50M count=1"21:23
Praxiahh gotcha thanks TJ-   is the slash representing anything special?21:23
juniourTJ- i got this Error opening device: Read-only file system21:24
TJ-Praxi: it is escaping the end-of-command indicator so it is read by 'find' and not the shell21:24
TJ-juniour: Was that after using "-R"21:24
PhantomPhreak53Really random but the last 2 days my ubuntu-server 12.0.4 has really slowed down. I only have a web, ssh, and mysql running on it. When I go to login it takes like 3 minutes. If I do apt-get update it freezes for like 10 minutes. If I run top or free nothing is even utilizing 1% of the resources available. Is there something else I can check? I see a few posts about vm.swappiness but I don't know.21:24
PhantomPhreak53The server has been running fine for almost 2 years and has been sluggish the last 3 days21:25
ikoniaPhantomPhreak53: sounds like dns/reverse dns21:25
juniourTJ- dd: opening `/dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0': Read-only file system21:25
TJ-juniour: OK try the unlock command "sudo u3-tool -u /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200519426213ECB0A2E9-0:0"21:25
PhantomPhreak53ikonia: it locks up everything. Even the web pages.21:25
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ikoniaPhantomPhreak53: yes, sounds like dns/reverse dns21:25
TJ-juniour: Then try the 'dd' command again21:25
PhantomPhreak53ikonia: suggestions?21:25
djapoi have x11 forwarding enabled and the window is forwarded but whenever i try to acces a menu or right click a white box outlinling the dimmensions of the menu appears than closses ... does anyone have any experiance with this?21:25
ikoniaPhantomPhreak53: check dns, reverse dns21:25
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PhantomPhreak53for the box?21:26
PhantomPhreak53the box doesn't control it's own dns21:26
ikoniaPhantomPhreak53: check it's resolver, and check it resolves21:26
juniourTJ- error bro no luck21:26
moldyhi21:26
ok_hi21:26
PraxiPhantomPhreak53: my basically unmonitored ubuntu server ran fine for a year, then started behaving sporadically, /boot was out of space21:27
TJ-juniour: OK, another option, which disabled device security: "-d" ... if that fails, we'll try to dump device info21:27
ok_ why paltalksceen doesn't work on ubuntu  ?21:27
juniourk21:27
moldyupdated a 10.04 system to 12.04. rootfs on lvm on dmraid. boot fails. i think that it's missing the lvm modules within the initramfs (looking at the initramfs image, i cannot find them). how should i fix this?21:27
juniourTJ- no luck with -d option21:28
TJ-juniour: OK, use "-D" (for debug) and pastebin the results21:28
juniourTJ- error21:28
TJ-juniour: really? what does it report?21:29
TJ-juniour: It might be that we need to tell usb-tool to use a different communication channel to the device.21:29
juniourTJ- Error opening device: Read-only file system21:29
TJ-juniour: Grrr :D21:29
juniourTJ- OHHHHHHH i got frustrated21:30
juniourwith my this dummy f---k flash drive21:30
TJ-juniour: OK, try "-i" which should display device info21:30
juniourk21:30
juniourTJ- same error with -i option21:31
TJ-juniour: I'm thinking it has been password protected!21:31
juniourTJ- its not giving any permission to perform any task wt type of write protection is this , i have never seen21:32
juniourTJ- but i can see the data21:32
ixio2hi, if I want a script to run at start up can I just add it to rc.local ?21:32
juniourTJ- some videos it in there i can play see but cant modify or move or delete :)21:33
ixio2do I have to put && at the end or something ?21:33
PhantomPhreak53ikonia: am I just supposed to check that the server resolves it's own hostname and ip?21:33
ikoniaPhantomPhreak53: check it's own resolver, and check that it also reolves, front and back facing21:34
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TJ-juniour: I'm out of ideas now! Got a hammer?21:34
Stax_hi21:35
juniourTJ- yep21:35
Stax_I'm unable to see images in browser or image viewer21:35
juniourTJ- may be i need to smash hammer on my flash drive21:35
juniourTJ- that will remove all protection ever21:36
juniour:)21:36
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ixio2how can I troubleshoot a script not starting that I added to rc.local ?21:43
ixio2I have chmod +x the rc.local file21:43
djapowho here drinks coffee?21:43
ixio2<-21:44
TJ-ixio2: Did you add the call to it before or after the "exit 0" line?21:44
ixio2before21:44
tmmunqtry specifying the shell in front of the script21:44
ixio2bash /home/ubuntu/mb_tcp_server/tcp_server.sh  <--- like this ?21:44
TJ-ixio2: Is the script executable by all? does it rely on functions only available in a different shell (bash versus (da)sh )21:45
ixio2I can run it fine from my ubuntu user account21:45
ixio2I run it in screen but they want it to start at boot21:45
TJ-ixio2: Does your script expect environment variables that aren't there when it runs at boot?21:45
ixio2nah21:46
ixio2does rc.local log somewhere?21:46
ixio2and can I test rc.local without rebooting ?21:46
TJ-ixio2: So, maybe add "set +x" to the top of the script, and in rc.local add a trailing redirect to some log file?21:46
tmmunqdoes it work when you run rc.local manually?21:46
ixio2aha..: /home/ubuntu/mb_tcp_server/tcp_server.sh: line 2: ./tcp_server/mb_tcp_server.py: No such file or directory21:47
ixio2I need to somehow make it run from its location21:47
TJ-ixio2: You need to cd to the expected directory21:47
ixio2kk21:47
TJ-ixio2: Or use absolute paths21:47
ixio2ok seems to work.. rebooting to test21:48
tmmunqgood luck21:48
TJ-ixio2: something like "cd $(dirname $0)"21:48
djapoi cant see menus in my x11 forwarded applications?21:48
linuxliamim trying to compile aptana from source but when i cd to the source dir and run make it syas no makefile found21:50
TJ-linuxliam: Does it need to run 'configure' or autogen.sh ?21:51
linuxliamim not sure21:51
linuxliamTJ https://github.com/aptana/studio3/tree/release21:54
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linuxliamim trying to build a deb package from source21:57
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RagingHello22:01
bantonepart22:01
bantoneer22:01
rurufufusswhat is the recommended way to edit programs that start up automatically, in 12.10?22:06
nahledgeI am on a live CD boot of Ubuntu, I am trying to edit files on an SD card with an ext4 partition (The native OS on the machine is WIndows 8)22:08
reisiorurufufuss: to edit which startup?22:08
nahledgeI need to move files from windows 8 to the ext 4 partition, i booted live ubuuntu, inserted card, nothing happenbs22:08
rurufufussreisio: hmm, gnome maybe?22:08
nahledgehelp?22:08
reisio...22:09
bekksnahledge: What do you expect to happen?22:09
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nahledgeThe sd card to mount so I can edit the files. Ubuntu is linux, the partition is linux. I fail to see how the fact that its alive cd would rule out sd card support22:10
nahledge(@ bekks)22:10
blazemorenahledge: Does the system have a make and model number?22:11
nnyk_Hi, if i 'apt-get installed' a package and i want to install the latest from source, do I have to 'apt-get remove' the app first before installing the source version?22:14
jribnnyk_: depends22:14
nnyk_jrib: on what exactly?22:15
stegowhat should i do if i want to remove a program that i compiled from source? can i use apt-get as i normally do?22:15
jribnnyk_: can you be more specific about what you are installing, how and why you are not using the repository version?22:15
jribstego: depends on how you installed it.22:16
JThomas1How do I find where a apt package was pulled from?22:16
jribJThomas1: apt-cache policy will give you hints (maybe)22:16
stegojrib, configure, make, make install22:16
jribJThomas1: apt-cache policy PACKAGE will give you hints (maybe)22:16
nnyk_jrib: i have git installed and its version 1.7 and i want to upgrade to 1.822:17
jribstego: try « make uninstall », read documentation, manually remove the files.  Try those (in that order)22:17
linuxliamim looking for an IDE simalair to webmatrix22:17
jribnnyk_: you're on 12.04?22:17
nnyk_jrib: yes i am.22:17
stegook, thanks jrib!22:17
jribnnyk_: git is something that you should be able to find in a ppa or maybe even in backports22:18
nnyk_jrib: okay, ill check for a ppa with the version i seek.22:19
jribnnyk_: if you really need to compile it (or if you need to compile a different software), then you don't need to remove the apt version (if you want to keep 2 versions around) as long as you make sure it installs to /usr/local (or some other location that won't conflict with where apt likes to install things)22:20
nnyk_jrib: by the way, am i right to say that i don't really trust all ppa's; is there a way the ppa's are verified?22:21
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jribnnyk_: you are right. You basically trust the author.  Usually, I'll only use a ppa if it's the official repository for a project.  You also have access to the source code if you want to vet  it yourself22:22
nnyk_jrib: alright...thanks, you've been a big help.22:23
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ionelmchello22:30
ionelmci have this issue libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work22:31
ionelmci get it from a python app22:31
ionelmcthe python (3.2) is from the ubuntu repos22:31
ionelmcubuntu is 12.0422:31
cjopcjopcould anyone here recommend a good mail server guide? I've run into issues with one22:31
cjopcjopit used courier and nothing seems to be doing what it needs to22:32
jribionelmc: speak in full sentences and don't use enter as punctuation22:32
jribionelmc: also provide relevant details (logs, commands, output) in pastebin22:33
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ionelmcjrib: i'm trying to reduce it to some simple test code, but i only happen once in a while in the testsuite of some app of mine22:36
jribionelmc: you can still be explicit about that22:36
qualiamy laptop has this horrible fan noise, is there a good tutorial on editing the hardware power consumption or the output of stuff?22:37
qualiaminimizing it?22:38
qualiaor disabling the fan entirely.22:38
qualiaor/and22:38
me0wthHow do you create additional panels on the desktop on gnome classic (12.04)?22:39
blazemoreionelmc: Please can you summarise: What you were trying to do when the error occured, what command you ran exactly, and what Ubuntu version you are running22:40
blazemoreionelmc: Also please put the command and the exact error message in a pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com22:41
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zykotick9cjopcjop: i haven't used it, but i bookmarked the following: http://dbpmail.net/essays/2013-06-29-hackers-replacement-for-gmail.html22:44
me0wthDoes anyone know where the add new panel option is in ubuntu 12.04 gnome?22:44
trismme0wth: alt+right click the panel, new panel22:48
blubuntuWhat are the values returned by ps aux?22:50
ionelmcblazemore, jrib: i wrote all the details here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5982917/22:52
mirakhello22:53
mirakwhy xrandr doesn't work for 24hz ?22:53
ionelmcI also ran it with ltrace, no calls to pthread_cancel22:53
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mirakthis is garbage once again22:53
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ionelmcalso, there is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-3.3/+bug/4028522:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 40285 in gcc-4.6 (Ubuntu) "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:55
ReggieManShould I install Oracle JRE in /opt, /usr/local or /usr/lib and why?22:55
hpc_anyone knowledgeable on installing and using wifi adapters?22:56
zykotick9ReggieMan: i'd vote for /opt as it's out-of-repo (i consider /usr a quasi-system directory)23:05
ReggieManzykotick9: What does out-of-repo and quasi-system mean?23:08
zykotick9ReggieMan: "out-of-repo" = anything non-ubuntu.  quasi-system, means i leave ONLY /usr as an only ubuntu/canonical directory.  YMMV.23:09
reisioReggieMan: I wouldn't install it anywhere23:12
reisioinstall icedtea23:12
reisioor don't23:12
jspliferHello, I'm wanting to change the wallpaper of the login screen.  I see several entries on the web how to do this in 13.04 but they are contradictory, with users saying the method didn't work.  Could somebody please direct me to instructions that they feel are accurate?23:13
boggleapt-get update issue - end of output: http://pastebin.com/Hb5pcN3p23:14
dr_willis_jsplifer:  lightdm can auto-change wallpaper to be the one the user  you have selected   is using.   askubuntu.com would be the place id look for the  most accurate guides23:15
zykotick9reisio: +1 to "I wouldn't install it anywhere"23:15
reisiozykotick9: +1 to reisio: +123:15
reisioI like your style :p23:15
dr_willis_jsplifer:  there may also be some ubuntu tweaking tools out that can set it.  such as ubuntu-tweak, or unsettings, or others i cant rember23:16
jspliferok dr_willis_ thanks for the input23:16
DoverMojsplifer, usually it's a png23:18
ReggieManWill I be able to move it later if I install it in /opt?23:19
DoverMojsplifer, back up whatever png's you find and then try putting the new picture with the same name23:19
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boggleapt-get update issue - end of output: http://pastebin.com/Hb5pcN3p23:23
jspliferyes DoverMo, trying to find the name of the default .png so I can back up and replace it now23:23
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Guest26517hey all, question regarding ap-get, this is what I'm getting from the request to apt-get libapache2-mod-python: libapache2-mod-python : Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.3-0ubuntu2.2 is to be installed23:26
Guest26517E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.23:26
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cjopcjopany idea23:27
cjopcjopas to why? *sorry, multiple lines23:27
cjopcjopany takers?23:28
JuicyJyou're a taker23:29
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cjopcjopJuicyJ you always say that!23:31
cjopcjop;)23:31
DoverMojsplifer, you could try "find / -name "*.png"23:32
DoverMo"23:32
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jspliferyeah, that brings up thousands of images though23:32
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DoverMojsplifer, then you must search through them all D:23:32
iohello ~ i'm using ubuntu in gnome-classion session, how can i get panel's applets preloaded before I login23:37
reisioio: what good would that do?23:37
ioi want my gnome panel's applet (indicators) fully loaded before logging on.23:39
reisioio: what good would that do?23:39
ioreisio, cuz it is ugly in my eyes when i see these things loading .23:40
ioah reisio is abot :D23:42
JuicyJcjopcjop, try sudo apt-get update and try again.23:42
wilee-nileeio, He means you no harm, in a robotic voice.23:43
DoverMoio, we are all cyborgs23:44
ioanybody please, i want my gnome panel's applets(indicators) preloaded before my desktop shows up23:44
reisiono it's just, when you ignore my question23:45
reisioI feel the need to ask it again23:45
reisiomaybe you didn't see it...23:45
iohello. do i need to paste it again.23:46
reisioio: that would take some work23:46
reisioit'd be simpler to put up an image matching the login window after you've actually logged in, to obscure their loading23:46
ioplz guide me, if u have free time23:46
boggleWhen I "apt-get update": "W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192". Using ubuntu 12.0423:46
boggleAny ideas?23:46
reisiothis would make it take longer to access your already-loaded stuff, however23:46
reisioso would be silly23:46
alonsocnHi all23:47
reisiohi alonsocn23:47
wilee-nileeboggle, run sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 16126D3A3E5C119223:47
wilee-nileemay work may not23:48
iothx reisio23:48
Xochipillii fucking hate niggers23:48
alonsocnsomebody with knowledge about how setup wifi on ubuntu so? :)23:48
wilee-nilee!ops | Xochipilli23:49
ubottuXochipilli: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!23:49
jkoudysJust moved to raring, and the new playonlinux build doesn't have an Internet Explorer options in the install menu - was this removed? Can't find anything on google saying it was23:49
jkoudysIE testing is 99% of why I use playonlinux at all23:49
reisiojkoudys: you can do that with plain Wine23:49
reisioalthough it'll be much more reliable from a Windows VM23:50
reisiojkoudys: https://github.com/xdissent/ievms23:50
reisiofree, legal23:50
jkoudysmore reliable from playonlinux than plain wine23:50
jkoudysthose ievms look good, thanks23:50
JeanCarloMachadosomeone know a good rss client for ubuntu that stay fixed on desktop like a widget?23:53
reisioJeanCarloMachado: check23:53
reisiohttps://extensions.gnome.org/23:54
k1lJeanCarloMachado: take a look at conky23:54
JeanCarloMachadotanks.. ill try conky, gnome extensions does not work since i'm running unity23:56

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