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lubuntunoobIf I wanted to download OpenOffice or something like that, I wouldn't be prohibited from do so, would I?01:19
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James_EppWhere on earth is the control panel?04:11
holsteinJames_Epp: for?04:11
James_Eppholstein: Everything in general.04:12
holsteinJames_Epp: try and be more specific..04:14
Unit193Generally, in System or Preferences.04:14
James_Epp....In every distro I know of there is at least a main control panel/center with all the rest of the options as submenus. I have heard of a "lubuntu-control-center" but an apt-get -y install lubuntu-control-center returns that the package cannot be found. http://www.lirui.name/upload/217.LubuntuControlCenter_001.jpeg04:15
holstein!info lubuntu-control-center04:15
ubottuPackage lubuntu-control-center does not exist in raring04:15
holsteinJames_Epp: must be named something else04:15
James_EppI'm running 12.0404:15
holsteinJames_Epp: prefrences should be generally what you are looking or04:16
holsteinfor*04:16
wxlhttp://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-screencast-lubuntu-control-center04:16
wxl↑ read the comments for full details04:17
wxlsuffice it to say it's not standard04:17
wxlit doesn't do anything you can't already do04:17
James_EppI am really just looking for something so that I can edit startup applicaitons04:19
James_Eppapplications*04:19
James_Eppwxl: Added the ppa, still cannot install package.04:20
wxlStart → Preferences → Desktop Session Settings → Automatically Started Applications04:20
holstein!ppa04:20
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:20
holsteinJames_Epp: ppa's are not officially supported, thought, you are welcome to use them, and seek support from the manufacturers04:20
James_EppDoes anyone know of the package used in ubuntu that controls startup applications?04:21
wxl…and just so you know all of the applications listed there are defined in /etc/xdg/autostart04:21
wxlJames_Epp: follow the path i gave you above04:22
James_Eppwxl: Didn't see that one, thanks!04:22
wxlthe one that starts with "Start"04:22
James_Eppwxl: One problem.....no "add" button04:22
wxlso what do you want to add?04:23
James_Eppes04:23
James_Eppyes*04:23
wxlyou want to add "yes?"04:23
James_Eppsorry, I thought you were asking if I want to add something *late at night*04:23
wxlyou want your computer to start playng the band Yes when it starts up? :)04:23
James_Eppjust a virtualbox --start-vm=vm thing04:23
James_EppShould I just add a bash script to /etc/xdg/autostart ?04:24
wxlJames_Epp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop04:24
Unit193Or add it to crontab.04:25
wxllong story short: make a .desktop file and put it in your local autostart04:25
James_EppMy god......I truly thank you for all of the support, but this machine is to be headless, and I'm getting a sour taste so far. Perhaps I'll just still to the xfce variant.04:26
wxlit really doesn't take that much, but you're welcome to do what you wish04:26
Unit193Headless, Xfce.  Doesn't make sense.04:26
wxl:)04:26
James_EppUnit193: Want me to explain the utility?04:26
James_Eppand by that, i mean....my project?04:27
holsteini would put a delay on it04:27
wxllet me guess: vrdp.04:27
James_EppN0pe.04:27
wxlprolly take longer to explain then to set up your autostart04:28
James_Eppyup :)04:28
wxlso go get to work silly04:28
* James_Epp goes to bed instead04:28
James_EppThanks again, guys!04:28
wxlhave fun04:29
Unit193@reboot vboxmanage --startvm bob04:29
gdi2khi, I'm using a minimal install of ubuntu to run openbox. I use lxappearance to change themes etc. but it seems broken. does anyone know exactly which files lxappearance is touching so I can delete them all and start from scratch?07:35
gdi2k(if I create a new user, lxappearance does its job correctly, so it must be something in my home dir causing the issues)07:35
leszekhi10:32
Frank81hi frinds10:46
Frank81i have a big problem since 13.04 firefox ist the standart browser and i realy need to change that coz there is something wrong when using mozilla thunderbid and i wanna open a link it simply opens new firefox window that is empty10:46
Frank81so i whant chromium back but when i do sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and choose chromium it has no result10:47
Frank81Firefox ist still standart what can i do10:47
new-useron repositories the repos with "(source code)" what does it mean?11:55
new-userwhat is it?11:55
new-userhelp please?12:01
utusanhow can I set SSID in the Network Manager applet in the panel?  It only asks for enc key but you need SSID to connect.14:43
holsteinutusan: add a connetion manually..14:44
utusanholstein: thanks but where?  I'd expect to do in NetwMgr but right/left click won't show any.  It only show repair/disable?14:46
holsteinutusan: i have "connect to hidden wifi network" in the menu.. maybe i have customized the manager i am using wth LXDE...14:47
utusanholstein: hmm, sorry but not good for end-user14:52
utusanholstein: also there is an edit on the add/remove panel dialog but not for NetMgr14:53
utusanholstein: I can add in interfaces but I don't want to bec I'd like it un-managed for kubuntu14:55
holsteinutusan: when trying to connect to a hidden network, clicking on "connect to hidden network" is not good for the end user?14:55
holsteinutusan: oh, i see.. you have "special" requirements that make the defaults not comfortable for you14:55
utusanholstein: I mean without is no good14:56
utusanholstein: end-user should be able to fill that in w/o customization as you need SSID/Key to connect14:57
holsteinutusan: i can.. you should be able to as well..14:57
utusanholstein: but NetMgr should be robust enough to tell me, uh uh, SSID is blank then I should ask.  Don't you think so?15:01
holsteinutusan: no.. and "robust" is not a goal of LXDE... "light" is15:02
holsteinutusan: feel free and file a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist or /join the mailing lists and suggest.. or fork any/all of these...15:03
utusanholstein: I won't argue but what good is 'light' if it doesn't work for most?  AFAIK wireless connection is one of the most important if not the One in this mobile trend.15:06
holsteinutusan: but, you *can* join a hidden network..15:09
Frank81 hi frinds15:51
Frank81i have a big problem since 13.04 firefox ist the standart browser and i realy need to change that coz there is something wrong when using mozilla thunderbid and i wanna open a link it simply opens new firefox window that is empty15:51
Frank81 so i whant chromium back but when i do sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and choose chromium it has no result15:51
Frank81 Firefox ist still standart what can i do15:51
n-iCehello guys!16:34
Frank81hello n-iCe16:35
n-iCehow are you16:38
Frank81i am not so good at present the new 13.04 Broke my Email Productivity :(16:39
n-iCe:(16:39
Frank81they replaced Chromium with firefox and i cant switch it back with sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and choose chromium it has no result still firefox is standart :(16:40
Frank81but else all other is ok16:40
wxlFrank81: is the problem only when you click links in thunderbird?17:04
Frank81wxl nope its general17:55
wxlFrank81: cuz i do know thunderbird has its own preferences17:55
Frank81i created .html document and it is assigned to firefox too17:55
Frank81wxl i was trying in own preferenzes of thunderbird i found nothing17:55
wxlFrank81: i'm not in front of a lubuntu right now but there's also a preferred applications in preferences if i remember correctly17:55
Frank81and tryed even to overwrite with editn .js file in tb profil to change that but it don't applys17:56
Unit193Check in ~/.local/share/ too.17:57
wxlFrank81: in thunderbird → preferences → attachments → incoming, set http and https to use chromium-browser17:57
wxlhopefully, too, when you say chromium, you mean chromium-browser17:58
Frank81wxl there i can't add anything in my TB version17:58
wxlthey should already be there17:59
Frank814 content types are supplyed and this are standart files like zip and so on17:59
Frank81nope no protocols and can't add any17:59
Frank81Unit193: what is in ~/.local/share/applications ?18:00
Frank81are that the standart apps?18:00
Frank81coz there is a firefox.desktop file18:01
Unit193~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list I think was what I may have been thinking.18:01
wxlFrank81: this may help with thunderbird if the more general approach doesn't do it http://kb.mozillazine.org/Actions_for_attachment_file_types18:02
wxlyou know there is an obvious solution: get rid of firefox :)18:04
Unit193Yep.18:05
Frank81hmmmm but i do a lot of web dev18:06
Frank81i need it for many good stuff18:06
Frank81but not for my normal browsing needs since its not able to open whats send to it18:06
Frank81maybe i should try a new mail client18:07
Frank81ah but thats not a good solution too18:07
Frank81there must be a way to intercept that stuff and force chromium to handle links18:08
Frank81i cant belive it18:11
ianorlinwhat?18:12
Frank81i searched trought the normal menu for system tools18:12
ianorlinwhat tool specifically are oyu looking for18:12
Frank81i found a one that was working :D18:12
Frank81libfm-pref-app18:13
Frank81did work now he accepts chromium ^^18:13
Frank81a wounder happend18:13
Frank81i can now click links again yaaaaa :D thats a time saver ^^18:13
* wxl waves to Kamilion 20:05
wxloops wrong one :)20:05
* wxl waves to karen_ 20:05
karen_hahahaha   o.k. so we're on Lubuntu Channel.20:06
karen_Now, another question. So, In Xubuntu, I had Libre Office set up and in the Software I got a PDF new thing that helps it work better in Libre Office Writer, ummmm, now that I'm in Lubuntu, which I cleaned installed over Xubuntu yesterday, can I trust the PDF to work in Libre Office Writer that I just installed?20:09
ianorlinpdf new thing?20:11
karen_ya, when I was in Xubuntu, I went to the Software Center, and downloaded some sort of PDF extra thing that made sure it worked in Libre Office Writer. I really don't know anything about that. Do you?20:13
ianorlindo you know the package name?20:13
ianorlinIF it was in the repositories you can still install it20:13
Unit193libreoffice-pdfimport ?20:14
karen_no,   something about PDF, sorry.   I just want PDF to work in my Libre Office writer.  What is Libreoffice-pdfimport?20:14
karen_Is anyone on this channel?20:26
karen_I accidentally erased my time and date from my bottom panel when I was setting up Lubuntu yesterday. I do I get it back?20:27
ianorlinright clicking on the panel add remove panel options20:28
karen_o.k. and then what?20:28
ianorlinadd remove panel options20:29
ianorlinclick add20:29
ianorlinchoose digital clock20:29
karen_o.k.   hang on. I'm going to try it.20:30
karen_Got it, but I would like to have date and regular time, not digital. How do I do that?20:32
ianorlinright click on the clock and select date and time20:33
karen_it has only "digital clock settings".20:34
karen_I guess you put some sort of command in the space for the settings it looks like.20:35
karen_o.k. how do you set time and date with digital clock settings?20:42
ianorlinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock20:42
karen_k  thanks20:43
karen_Yeah! It worked!20:46
MraMariahi. is "sudo apt-get install build-essential" needed to install lubuntu minimal?21:10
Unit193If you want to compile something, that's generally a handy thing to have, but not for Lubuntu minimal.21:11
MraMaria... because hi. i've installed Ubuntu13.04-64-mini, advanced mode, ubuntu basic server ...  lubuntu minimal21:12
MraMariahi/I21:12
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Guest26230hi, so I had some help from you guys in changing the digital clock to what I wanted, date and regular time. But, now every time I turn the computer back on, the digital army time comes on in front of my chosen date and time. How can I get rid of the digital army time?22:51
Guest26230in Lubuntu22:51
holsteinGuest26230: i think its just a 24 hour clock22:52
holsteinGuest26230: are you talking about in the panel?22:52
holsteinyouy can "get rid of it" by removing22:52
holsteinif you want to change it to a 12 hour clock, thats different.. which do you want?22:52
Guest26230Well, I was sent to a site in Lubuntu where I cut and pasted the day, date, year, and time into the digital clock box. But, the digital 24 hr thing comes in front of all that when I turn the computer back on.22:54
holsteinhttps://help.gnome.org/users/gthumb/unstable/gthumb-date-formats.html.en is what i reference, though im sure there are others22:55
Guest26230o.k. thanks22:55
Unit193Sounds like two applets.22:55
Unit193http://manpages.ubuntu.com/strftime22:55
holstein%l:%M is what i use.. and i agree, it sounds like you have an extra applet22:56
Guest26230ya I think so23:00
guest-5rh9g7guys, I somehow messed up my screen after I log in with my user name. When I log in as guest, is the screen I had wanted for my user name, but I messed up somehow. The normal things at the bottom panel that Lubuntu came with aren't there for the screen after my log in name.23:26
guest-5rh9g7Sorry, does that make sense?23:27
holsteinguest-5rh9g7: not really.. but let me suggest, you can remove the .config files in your /home if you want it to be as default23:29
guest-5rh9g7how do you do that?23:30
holsteinguest-5rh9g7: remove the config files?23:31
holsteinyou remove them.. open them with a filemanager, or however you are comfortable and remove or rename them23:32
guest-5rh9g7ya   how do I get the default screen to come up after I sign in as user. It's normal when I sign in as guest.23:32
holsteinguest-5rh9g7: one way to accopmlish this "reset" is by removing the confg files in the users home23:32
holsteinin ~/.confg and other .hidden folders23:33
guest-5rh9g7I really am not Linux user smart here. Umm  in the terminal?23:33
holsteinguest-5rh9g7: in literally whatever place you like to edit files23:34
holsteinguest-5rh9g7: a file manager is what i would use23:34
holsteinif i had issues with permission, i would load up a live CD and do it23:34
guest-5rh9g7I just clean installed this Linux over Xubuntu yesterday. dang  I already have it screwed up.23:36
guest-5rh9g7So, you would go into file manager and then what?23:37

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