[01:19] <lubuntunoob> If I wanted to download OpenOffice or something like that, I wouldn't be prohibited from do so, would I?
[04:11] <James_Epp> Where on earth is the control panel?
[04:11] <holstein> James_Epp: for?
[04:12] <James_Epp> holstein: Everything in general.
[04:14] <holstein> James_Epp: try and be more specific..
[04:14] <Unit193> Generally, in System or Preferences.
[04:15] <James_Epp> ....In every distro I know of there is at least a main control panel/center with all the rest of the options as submenus. I have heard of a "lubuntu-control-center" but an apt-get -y install lubuntu-control-center returns that the package cannot be found. http://www.lirui.name/upload/217.LubuntuControlCenter_001.jpeg
[04:15] <holstein> !info lubuntu-control-center
[04:15] <holstein> James_Epp: must be named something else
[04:15] <James_Epp> I'm running 12.04
[04:16] <holstein> James_Epp: prefrences should be generally what you are looking or
[04:16] <holstein> for*
[04:16] <wxl> http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-screencast-lubuntu-control-center
[04:17] <wxl> ↑ read the comments for full details
[04:17] <wxl> suffice it to say it's not standard
[04:17] <wxl> it doesn't do anything you can't already do
[04:19] <James_Epp> I am really just looking for something so that I can edit startup applicaitons
[04:19] <James_Epp> applications*
[04:20] <James_Epp> wxl: Added the ppa, still cannot install package.
[04:20] <wxl> Start → Preferences → Desktop Session Settings → Automatically Started Applications
[04:20] <holstein> !ppa
[04:20] <holstein> James_Epp: ppa's are not officially supported, thought, you are welcome to use them, and seek support from the manufacturers
[04:21] <James_Epp> Does anyone know of the package used in ubuntu that controls startup applications?
[04:21] <wxl> …and just so you know all of the applications listed there are defined in /etc/xdg/autostart
[04:22] <wxl> James_Epp: follow the path i gave you above
[04:22] <James_Epp> wxl: Didn't see that one, thanks!
[04:22] <wxl> the one that starts with "Start"
[04:22] <James_Epp> wxl: One problem.....no "add" button
[04:23] <wxl> so what do you want to add?
[04:23] <James_Epp> es
[04:23] <James_Epp> yes*
[04:23] <wxl> you want to add "yes?"
[04:23] <James_Epp> sorry, I thought you were asking if I want to add something *late at night*
[04:23] <wxl> you want your computer to start playng the band Yes when it starts up? :)
[04:23] <James_Epp> just a virtualbox --start-vm=vm thing
[04:24] <James_Epp> Should I just add a bash script to /etc/xdg/autostart ?
[04:24] <wxl> James_Epp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop
[04:25] <Unit193> Or add it to crontab.
[04:25] <wxl> long story short: make a .desktop file and put it in your local autostart
[04:26] <James_Epp> My god......I truly thank you for all of the support, but this machine is to be headless, and I'm getting a sour taste so far. Perhaps I'll just still to the xfce variant.
[04:26] <wxl> it really doesn't take that much, but you're welcome to do what you wish
[04:26] <Unit193> Headless, Xfce.  Doesn't make sense.
[04:26] <wxl> :)
[04:26] <James_Epp> Unit193: Want me to explain the utility?
[04:27] <James_Epp> and by that, i mean....my project?
[04:27] <holstein> i would put a delay on it
[04:27] <wxl> let me guess: vrdp.
[04:27] <James_Epp> N0pe.
[04:28] <wxl> prolly take longer to explain then to set up your autostart
[04:28] <James_Epp> yup :)
[04:28] <wxl> so go get to work silly
[04:28]  * James_Epp goes to bed instead
[04:28] <James_Epp> Thanks again, guys!
[04:29] <wxl> have fun
[04:29] <Unit193> @reboot vboxmanage --startvm bob
[07:35] <gdi2k> hi, I'm using a minimal install of ubuntu to run openbox. I use lxappearance to change themes etc. but it seems broken. does anyone know exactly which files lxappearance is touching so I can delete them all and start from scratch?
[07:35] <gdi2k> (if I create a new user, lxappearance does its job correctly, so it must be something in my home dir causing the issues)
[10:32] <leszek> hi
[10:46] <Frank81> hi frinds
[10:46] <Frank81> i have a big problem since 13.04 firefox ist the standart browser and i realy need to change that coz there is something wrong when using mozilla thunderbid and i wanna open a link it simply opens new firefox window that is empty
[10:47] <Frank81> so i whant chromium back but when i do sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and choose chromium it has no result
[10:47] <Frank81> Firefox ist still standart what can i do
[11:55] <new-user> on repositories the repos with "(source code)" what does it mean?
[11:55] <new-user> what is it?
[12:01] <new-user> help please?
[14:43] <utusan> how can I set SSID in the Network Manager applet in the panel?  It only asks for enc key but you need SSID to connect.
[14:44] <holstein> utusan: add a connetion manually..
[14:46] <utusan> holstein: thanks but where?  I'd expect to do in NetwMgr but right/left click won't show any.  It only show repair/disable?
[14:47] <holstein> utusan: i have "connect to hidden wifi network" in the menu.. maybe i have customized the manager i am using wth LXDE...
[14:52] <utusan> holstein: hmm, sorry but not good for end-user
[14:53] <utusan> holstein: also there is an edit on the add/remove panel dialog but not for NetMgr
[14:55] <utusan> holstein: I can add in interfaces but I don't want to bec I'd like it un-managed for kubuntu
[14:55] <holstein> utusan: when trying to connect to a hidden network, clicking on "connect to hidden network" is not good for the end user?
[14:55] <holstein> utusan: oh, i see.. you have "special" requirements that make the defaults not comfortable for you
[14:56] <utusan> holstein: I mean without is no good
[14:57] <utusan> holstein: end-user should be able to fill that in w/o customization as you need SSID/Key to connect
[14:57] <holstein> utusan: i can.. you should be able to as well..
[15:01] <utusan> holstein: but NetMgr should be robust enough to tell me, uh uh, SSID is blank then I should ask.  Don't you think so?
[15:02] <holstein> utusan: no.. and "robust" is not a goal of LXDE... "light" is
[15:03] <holstein> utusan: feel free and file a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist or /join the mailing lists and suggest.. or fork any/all of these...
[15:06] <utusan> holstein: I won't argue but what good is 'light' if it doesn't work for most?  AFAIK wireless connection is one of the most important if not the One in this mobile trend.
[15:09] <holstein> utusan: but, you *can* join a hidden network..
[15:51] <Frank81>  hi frinds
[15:51] <Frank81> i have a big problem since 13.04 firefox ist the standart browser and i realy need to change that coz there is something wrong when using mozilla thunderbid and i wanna open a link it simply opens new firefox window that is empty
[15:51] <Frank81>  so i whant chromium back but when i do sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and choose chromium it has no result
[15:51] <Frank81>  Firefox ist still standart what can i do
[16:34] <n-iCe> hello guys!
[16:35] <Frank81> hello n-iCe
[16:38] <n-iCe> how are you
[16:39] <Frank81> i am not so good at present the new 13.04 Broke my Email Productivity :(
[16:39] <n-iCe> :(
[16:40] <Frank81> they replaced Chromium with firefox and i cant switch it back with sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and choose chromium it has no result still firefox is standart :(
[16:40] <Frank81> but else all other is ok
[17:04] <wxl> Frank81: is the problem only when you click links in thunderbird?
[17:55] <Frank81> wxl nope its general
[17:55] <wxl> Frank81: cuz i do know thunderbird has its own preferences
[17:55] <Frank81> i created .html document and it is assigned to firefox too
[17:55] <Frank81> wxl i was trying in own preferenzes of thunderbird i found nothing
[17:55] <wxl> Frank81: i'm not in front of a lubuntu right now but there's also a preferred applications in preferences if i remember correctly
[17:56] <Frank81> and tryed even to overwrite with editn .js file in tb profil to change that but it don't applys
[17:57] <Unit193> Check in ~/.local/share/ too.
[17:57] <wxl> Frank81: in thunderbird → preferences → attachments → incoming, set http and https to use chromium-browser
[17:58] <wxl> hopefully, too, when you say chromium, you mean chromium-browser
[17:58] <Frank81> wxl there i can't add anything in my TB version
[17:59] <wxl> they should already be there
[17:59] <Frank81> 4 content types are supplyed and this are standart files like zip and so on
[17:59] <Frank81> nope no protocols and can't add any
[18:00] <Frank81> Unit193: what is in ~/.local/share/applications ?
[18:00] <Frank81> are that the standart apps?
[18:01] <Frank81> coz there is a firefox.desktop file
[18:01] <Unit193> ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list I think was what I may have been thinking.
[18:02] <wxl> Frank81: this may help with thunderbird if the more general approach doesn't do it http://kb.mozillazine.org/Actions_for_attachment_file_types
[18:04] <wxl> you know there is an obvious solution: get rid of firefox :)
[18:05] <Unit193> Yep.
[18:06] <Frank81> hmmmm but i do a lot of web dev
[18:06] <Frank81> i need it for many good stuff
[18:06] <Frank81> but not for my normal browsing needs since its not able to open whats send to it
[18:07] <Frank81> maybe i should try a new mail client
[18:07] <Frank81> ah but thats not a good solution too
[18:08] <Frank81> there must be a way to intercept that stuff and force chromium to handle links
[18:11] <Frank81> i cant belive it
[18:12] <ianorlin> what?
[18:12] <Frank81> i searched trought the normal menu for system tools
[18:12] <ianorlin> what tool specifically are oyu looking for
[18:12] <Frank81> i found a one that was working :D
[18:13] <Frank81> libfm-pref-app
[18:13] <Frank81> did work now he accepts chromium ^^
[18:13] <Frank81> a wounder happend
[18:13] <Frank81> i can now click links again yaaaaa :D thats a time saver ^^
[20:05]  * wxl waves to Kamilion 
[20:05] <wxl> oops wrong one :)
[20:05]  * wxl waves to karen_ 
[20:06] <karen_> hahahaha   o.k. so we're on Lubuntu Channel.
[20:09] <karen_> Now, another question. So, In Xubuntu, I had Libre Office set up and in the Software I got a PDF new thing that helps it work better in Libre Office Writer, ummmm, now that I'm in Lubuntu, which I cleaned installed over Xubuntu yesterday, can I trust the PDF to work in Libre Office Writer that I just installed?
[20:11] <ianorlin> pdf new thing?
[20:13] <karen_> ya, when I was in Xubuntu, I went to the Software Center, and downloaded some sort of PDF extra thing that made sure it worked in Libre Office Writer. I really don't know anything about that. Do you?
[20:13] <ianorlin> do you know the package name?
[20:13] <ianorlin> IF it was in the repositories you can still install it
[20:14] <Unit193> libreoffice-pdfimport ?
[20:14] <karen_> no,   something about PDF, sorry.   I just want PDF to work in my Libre Office writer.  What is Libreoffice-pdfimport?
[20:26] <karen_> Is anyone on this channel?
[20:27] <karen_> I accidentally erased my time and date from my bottom panel when I was setting up Lubuntu yesterday. I do I get it back?
[20:28] <ianorlin> right clicking on the panel add remove panel options
[20:28] <karen_> o.k. and then what?
[20:29] <ianorlin> add remove panel options
[20:29] <ianorlin> click add
[20:29] <ianorlin> choose digital clock
[20:30] <karen_> o.k.   hang on. I'm going to try it.
[20:32] <karen_> Got it, but I would like to have date and regular time, not digital. How do I do that?
[20:33] <ianorlin> right click on the clock and select date and time
[20:34] <karen_> it has only "digital clock settings".
[20:35] <karen_> I guess you put some sort of command in the space for the settings it looks like.
[20:42] <karen_> o.k. how do you set time and date with digital clock settings?
[20:42] <ianorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock
[20:43] <karen_> k  thanks
[20:46] <karen_> Yeah! It worked!
[21:10] <MraMaria> hi. is "sudo apt-get install build-essential" needed to install lubuntu minimal?
[21:11] <Unit193> If you want to compile something, that's generally a handy thing to have, but not for Lubuntu minimal.
[21:12] <MraMaria> ... because hi. i've installed Ubuntu13.04-64-mini, advanced mode, ubuntu basic server ...  lubuntu minimal
[21:12] <MraMaria> hi/I
[22:51] <Guest26230> hi, so I had some help from you guys in changing the digital clock to what I wanted, date and regular time. But, now every time I turn the computer back on, the digital army time comes on in front of my chosen date and time. How can I get rid of the digital army time?
[22:51] <Guest26230> in Lubuntu
[22:52] <holstein> Guest26230: i think its just a 24 hour clock
[22:52] <holstein> Guest26230: are you talking about in the panel?
[22:52] <holstein> youy can "get rid of it" by removing
[22:52] <holstein> if you want to change it to a 12 hour clock, thats different.. which do you want?
[22:54] <Guest26230> Well, I was sent to a site in Lubuntu where I cut and pasted the day, date, year, and time into the digital clock box. But, the digital 24 hr thing comes in front of all that when I turn the computer back on.
[22:55] <holstein> https://help.gnome.org/users/gthumb/unstable/gthumb-date-formats.html.en is what i reference, though im sure there are others
[22:55] <Guest26230> o.k. thanks
[22:55] <Unit193> Sounds like two applets.
[22:55] <Unit193> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/strftime
[22:56] <holstein> %l:%M is what i use.. and i agree, it sounds like you have an extra applet
[23:00] <Guest26230> ya I think so
[23:26] <guest-5rh9g7> guys, I somehow messed up my screen after I log in with my user name. When I log in as guest, is the screen I had wanted for my user name, but I messed up somehow. The normal things at the bottom panel that Lubuntu came with aren't there for the screen after my log in name.
[23:27] <guest-5rh9g7> Sorry, does that make sense?
[23:29] <holstein> guest-5rh9g7: not really.. but let me suggest, you can remove the .config files in your /home if you want it to be as default
[23:30] <guest-5rh9g7> how do you do that?
[23:31] <holstein> guest-5rh9g7: remove the config files?
[23:32] <holstein> you remove them.. open them with a filemanager, or however you are comfortable and remove or rename them
[23:32] <guest-5rh9g7> ya   how do I get the default screen to come up after I sign in as user. It's normal when I sign in as guest.
[23:32] <holstein> guest-5rh9g7: one way to accopmlish this "reset" is by removing the confg files in the users home
[23:33] <holstein> in ~/.confg and other .hidden folders
[23:33] <guest-5rh9g7> I really am not Linux user smart here. Umm  in the terminal?
[23:34] <holstein> guest-5rh9g7: in literally whatever place you like to edit files
[23:34] <holstein> guest-5rh9g7: a file manager is what i would use
[23:34] <holstein> if i had issues with permission, i would load up a live CD and do it
[23:36] <guest-5rh9g7> I just clean installed this Linux over Xubuntu yesterday. dang  I already have it screwed up.
[23:37] <guest-5rh9g7> So, you would go into file manager and then what?