| darkxst | gerardo_, are you using gnome3-staging? | 00:03 |
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| gerardo_ | I have this version GNOME Shell 3.6.3.1 | 00:04 |
| jbicha | darkxst: yeah I think that's just a Debian-specific packaging bug, see http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/gtk%2B3.0/debian/gir1.2-gtk-3.0.install?view=markup | 01:05 |
| UltraHR | Hey there, anyone able to offer some support for the 13.10 alpha? | 01:59 |
| pr0metheu5 | hey guys | 02:16 |
| pr0metheu5 | I can't figure this out for the life of me; is the DE Gnome Classic or Gnome Shell in Ubuntu Gnome? | 02:17 |
| jbicha | pr0metheu5: which version are you using? | 02:18 |
| pr0metheu5 | I'm not on Ubuntu Gnome, I was just wondering | 02:18 |
| pr0metheu5 | what the default DE is | 02:18 |
| UltraHR | Default DE in Ubuntu GNOME is GNOME 3.6 | 02:19 |
| UltraHR | (Not Classic) | 02:19 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu 13.10 will also include the new GNOME Classic (which is actually GNOME Shell with several pre-enabled extensions) but GNOME Shell will still be the default | 02:21 |
| pr0metheu5 | Okay, gotcha | 02:22 |
| pr0metheu5 | thanks =] | 02:22 |
| jbicha | there's a screenshot of the new Classic at https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.8/ | 02:22 |
| pr0metheu5 | That looks very neat | 02:23 |
| pr0metheu5 | I'm excited | 02:24 |
| pr0metheu5 | 3.8 is out though, it seems? | 02:25 |
| Zoiaguyver | It is, you can use it with the 13.04 release by adding the gnome3 ppa | 02:25 |
| Zoiaguyver | But it becomes the default in 13.10 (3.10 should be in the gnome3 ppa then) | 02:26 |
| Zoiaguyver | Gnome makes it seem as though Ubuntu is a release behind, but the problem is the release dates vs testing, Gnome 3.10 arrives in September, Ubuntu-Gnome is in freeze then, so it means 3.10 can't be added :( | 02:29 |
| pr0metheu5 | I'm gonna go install gnome 3.8 on my ubuntu install then | 02:33 |
| Zoiaguyver | Just add the gnome3 ppa and do a dist-upgrade and thats it, if you want to try all the 3.8 stuff you will need gnome3-staging ppa aswell, but I've had no issues at all with it on three systems it runs on | 02:37 |
| home | hey, has anyone figured out how to change the theme on apps that still use gtk2 (like firefox)? | 03:10 |
| a____ | I think maybe you have to suck off your own face. top fucking lel. | 03:12 |
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| home | well, i tried sucking my own face off but that didn't work. any other suggestions? --maybe something more probable/useful | 03:24 |
| bjsnider | huh, firefox looks like adwaita here | 03:28 |
| jbicha | home: that was just a spammer, ignore him | 03:28 |
| bjsnider | in other words, this doesn't appear to be a problem for me | 03:28 |
| jbicha | a good theme will support gtk2 and gtk3 | 03:29 |
| bjsnider | couldn't be a spammer, his message was such a coherent argument | 03:29 |
| bjsnider | home, what theme are you using? | 03:29 |
| home | bjsnider, i was trying to use zukitwo | 03:45 |
| bjsnider | i guess it's not good enough | 03:46 |
| home | do you know which themes do work? | 03:46 |
| jbicha | darkxst: oh it's just a PPA bug then as it's for 3.9 | 03:50 |
| bjsnider | home, certainly adwaita, the default theme, would work | 03:53 |
| home | yes. the default theme is fine | 03:53 |
| darkxst | jbicha, yes | 04:04 |
| ronj | Hi ricotz jbicha darkxst, does issues with importing your packaged version of libgweather from an extension ring a bell to you? Seems the new Weather extension stumbles on it: https://github.com/Neroth/gnome-shell-extension-weather/issues/137 . I'm just asking in case anything obvious comes to your mind, if not then no worry the developer will look at it | 17:16 |
| ronj | seems it's Ubuntu specific, Fedora & Arch are fine | 17:18 |
| bjsnider | ronj, i installed this extension manually and it works | 17:24 |
| ronj | bjsnider, interesting! so for you, installing from the website fails, but manually works, right? for me both fail | 17:25 |
| bjsnider | with the packaged gweather and do forth | 17:25 |
| bjsnider | i didn't try from the website | 17:25 |
| ronj | ok | 17:25 |
| ronj | bjsnider, what's your version of libgweather* ? | 17:25 |
| ronj | oh, and you installed the recent V2 rework published days ago, right? | 17:26 |
| ronj | for me the old version (not relying on libgweather) used to work too | 17:26 |
| bjsnider | i have both libs 6.2 and 8.2 | 17:27 |
| bjsnider | i am using the extension based on gweather | 17:27 |
| bjsnider | apparently the shared libs are not mutually exclusive, but everything else is 8 | 17:28 |
| ronj | I have both too | 17:29 |
| bjsnider | it says you don't have the typelib file | 17:29 |
| bjsnider | gir1.2-gweather-3 | 17:29 |
| ronj | hmm yeah I missed that, don't know what it means, do you? | 17:29 |
| bjsnider | install the above package | 17:29 |
| ronj | ok thx trying | 17:29 |
| bjsnider | have you got gnome-weather installed? | 17:31 |
| ronj | bjsnider, installing gir1.2-gweather-3 and reinstalling the ext did the trick! | 17:32 |
| ronj | yeah it is installed | 17:32 |
| bjsnider | gnome-weather pulls it in | 17:32 |
| ronj | hmmm well it didn't for me | 17:32 |
| ronj | dependency issue? | 17:32 |
| bjsnider | what happens if you try to uninstall the typelib package? | 17:33 |
| ronj | ... The following packages will be REMOVED: gir1.2-gweather-3.0 | 17:33 |
| ronj | and that's it | 17:33 |
| bjsnider | here it also has to remove gnome-weather | 17:34 |
| ronj | bjsnider, should I report a bug on gnome-team's LP? | 17:35 |
| bjsnider | where idd you get these packages? | 17:35 |
| bjsnider | i got mine from the stable ppa | 17:35 |
| ronj | well | 17:37 |
| ronj | turns out I didn't have gnome-weather. and there's no dep issue, now if I try to remove the typelib package, apt-get correctly asks to remove gnome-weather | 17:38 |
| bjsnider | wonder why you didn't have gnome-weather | 17:39 |
| bjsnider | but anyway, that's what is supposed to pull in the typelib | 17:39 |
| ronj | yup it does. maybe I uninstalled it because I didn't use it | 17:39 |
| bjsnider | so there's no bug | 17:40 |
| ronj | correct, ideally the extension dev. could show an error message if gnome-weather is absent, or just communicate the need for gnome-weather via its extension description. | 17:42 |
| ronj | thanks! | 17:42 |
| ronj | mentioning all that in the GitHub issue | 17:42 |
| jbicha | it should be easier with 13.10: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-weather | 17:58 |
| bjsnider | obviously the package created for the extension should pull in gnome-weather | 18:01 |
| bjsnider | that would have fixed this particular issue | 18:01 |
| bjsnider | i haven't looked at it because i just build it from source, but i suppose it doesn't depend on it now | 18:03 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: can you report that to Debian? | 18:05 |
| bjsnider | sure | 18:05 |
| jbicha | js or python apps usually need to have their dependencies explicitly declared | 18:06 |
| bjsnider | in the app? | 18:06 |
| jbicha | it doesn't need to depend on gnome-weather, just the gweather gir | 18:06 |
| jbicha | oh it's part of pkg-gnome, I can fix it in svn at least | 18:07 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: ok, we don't necessarily need the Debian bug now | 18:14 |
| bjsnider | i figured depending on gnome-weather was safer because that will pull everything in | 18:19 |
| bjsnider | it may be too vague for debian | 18:19 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: but gnome-weather isn't in Debian or Ubuntu yet; there's a licensing problem | 18:20 |
| bjsnider | ok | 18:21 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, depends on the shared lib too right? | 18:30 |
| jbicha | yeah, a gir needs to depend on its library | 18:32 |
| bjsnider | what's the stupid licensing problem? | 18:34 |
| jbicha | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/703150 | 18:50 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 703150 in general "Please relicense art to CC-BY-SA 3.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 18:50 |
| bjsnider | oh, just use public domain images | 18:52 |
| jbicha | that's one fix, if you want to submit a patch for that to GNOME, there's only a few days left before the 3.10 Freeze | 18:54 |
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