[00:03] <darkxst> gerardo_, are you using gnome3-staging?
[00:04] <gerardo_> I have this version GNOME Shell 3.6.3.1
[01:05] <jbicha> darkxst: yeah I think that's just a Debian-specific packaging bug, see http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/gtk%2B3.0/debian/gir1.2-gtk-3.0.install?view=markup
[01:59] <UltraHR> Hey there, anyone able to offer some support for the 13.10 alpha?
[02:16] <pr0metheu5> hey guys
[02:17] <pr0metheu5> I can't figure this out for the life of me; is the DE Gnome Classic or Gnome Shell in Ubuntu Gnome?
[02:18] <jbicha> pr0metheu5: which version are you using?
[02:18] <pr0metheu5> I'm not on Ubuntu Gnome, I was just wondering
[02:18] <pr0metheu5> what the default DE is
[02:19] <UltraHR> Default DE in Ubuntu GNOME is GNOME 3.6
[02:19] <UltraHR> (Not Classic)
[02:21] <jbicha> Ubuntu 13.10 will also include the new GNOME Classic (which is actually GNOME Shell with several pre-enabled extensions) but GNOME Shell will still be the default
[02:22] <pr0metheu5> Okay, gotcha
[02:22] <pr0metheu5> thanks =]
[02:22] <jbicha> there's a screenshot of the new Classic at https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.8/
[02:23] <pr0metheu5> That looks very neat
[02:24] <pr0metheu5> I'm excited
[02:25] <pr0metheu5> 3.8 is out though, it seems?
[02:25] <Zoiaguyver> It is, you can use it with the 13.04 release by adding the gnome3 ppa
[02:26] <Zoiaguyver> But it becomes the default in 13.10 (3.10 should be in the gnome3 ppa then)
[02:29] <Zoiaguyver> Gnome makes it seem as though Ubuntu is a release behind, but the problem is the release dates vs testing, Gnome 3.10 arrives in September, Ubuntu-Gnome is in freeze then, so it means 3.10 can't be added :(
[02:33] <pr0metheu5> I'm gonna go install gnome 3.8 on my ubuntu install then
[02:37] <Zoiaguyver> Just add the gnome3 ppa and do a dist-upgrade and thats it, if you want to try all the 3.8 stuff you will need gnome3-staging ppa aswell, but I've had no issues at all with it on three systems it runs on
[03:10] <home> hey, has anyone figured out how to change the theme on apps that still use gtk2 (like firefox)?
[03:12] <a____> I think maybe you have to suck off your own face. top fucking lel.
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[03:24] <home> well, i tried sucking my own face off but that didn't work. any other suggestions? --maybe something more probable/useful
[03:28] <bjsnider> huh, firefox looks like adwaita here
[03:28] <jbicha> home: that was just a spammer, ignore him
[03:28] <bjsnider> in other words, this doesn't appear to be a problem for me
[03:29] <jbicha> a good theme will support gtk2 and gtk3
[03:29] <bjsnider> couldn't be a spammer, his message was such a coherent argument
[03:29] <bjsnider> home, what theme are you using?
[03:45] <home> bjsnider, i was trying to use zukitwo
[03:46] <bjsnider> i guess it's not good enough
[03:46] <home> do you know which themes do work?
[03:50] <jbicha> darkxst: oh it's just a PPA bug then as it's for 3.9
[03:53] <bjsnider> home, certainly adwaita, the default theme, would work
[03:53] <home> yes. the default theme is fine
[04:04] <darkxst> jbicha, yes
[17:16] <ronj> Hi ricotz jbicha darkxst, does issues with importing your packaged version of libgweather from an extension ring a bell to you? Seems the new Weather extension stumbles on it: https://github.com/Neroth/gnome-shell-extension-weather/issues/137 . I'm just asking in case anything obvious comes to your mind, if not then no worry the developer will look at it
[17:18] <ronj> seems it's Ubuntu specific, Fedora & Arch are fine
[17:24] <bjsnider> ronj, i installed this extension manually and it works
[17:25] <ronj> bjsnider, interesting! so for you, installing from the website fails, but manually works, right? for me both fail
[17:25] <bjsnider> with the packaged gweather and do forth
[17:25] <bjsnider> i didn't try from the website
[17:25] <ronj> ok
[17:25] <ronj> bjsnider, what's your version of libgweather* ?
[17:26] <ronj> oh, and you installed the recent V2 rework published days ago, right?
[17:26] <ronj> for me the old version (not relying on libgweather) used to work too
[17:27] <bjsnider> i have both libs 6.2 and 8.2
[17:27] <bjsnider> i am using the extension based on gweather
[17:28] <bjsnider> apparently the shared libs are not mutually exclusive, but everything else is 8
[17:29] <ronj> I have both too
[17:29] <bjsnider> it says you don't have the typelib file
[17:29] <bjsnider> gir1.2-gweather-3
[17:29] <ronj> hmm yeah I missed that, don't know what it means, do you?
[17:29] <bjsnider> install the above package
[17:29] <ronj> ok thx trying
[17:31] <bjsnider> have you got gnome-weather installed?
[17:32] <ronj> bjsnider, installing gir1.2-gweather-3 and reinstalling the ext did the trick!
[17:32] <ronj> yeah it is installed
[17:32] <bjsnider> gnome-weather pulls it in
[17:32] <ronj> hmmm well it didn't for me
[17:32] <ronj> dependency issue?
[17:33] <bjsnider> what happens if you try to uninstall the typelib package?
[17:33] <ronj> ... The following packages will be REMOVED: gir1.2-gweather-3.0
[17:33] <ronj> and that's it
[17:34] <bjsnider> here it also has to remove gnome-weather
[17:35] <ronj> bjsnider, should I report a bug on gnome-team's LP?
[17:35] <bjsnider> where idd you get these packages?
[17:35] <bjsnider> i got mine from the stable ppa
[17:37] <ronj> well
[17:38] <ronj> turns out I didn't have gnome-weather. and there's no dep issue, now if I try to remove the typelib package, apt-get correctly asks to remove gnome-weather
[17:39] <bjsnider> wonder why you didn't have gnome-weather
[17:39] <bjsnider> but anyway, that's what is supposed to pull in the typelib
[17:39] <ronj> yup it does. maybe I uninstalled it because I didn't use it
[17:40] <bjsnider> so there's no bug
[17:42] <ronj> correct, ideally the extension dev. could show an error message if gnome-weather is absent, or just communicate the need for gnome-weather via its extension description.
[17:42] <ronj> thanks!
[17:42] <ronj> mentioning all that in the GitHub issue
[17:58] <jbicha> it should be easier with 13.10: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-weather
[18:01] <bjsnider> obviously the package created for the extension should pull in gnome-weather
[18:01] <bjsnider> that would have fixed this particular issue
[18:03] <bjsnider> i haven't looked at it because i just build it from source, but i suppose it doesn't depend on it now
[18:05] <jbicha> bjsnider: can you report that to Debian?
[18:05] <bjsnider> sure
[18:06] <jbicha> js or python apps usually need to have their dependencies explicitly declared
[18:06] <bjsnider> in the app?
[18:06] <jbicha> it doesn't need to depend on gnome-weather, just the gweather gir
[18:07] <jbicha> oh it's part of pkg-gnome, I can fix it in svn at least
[18:14] <jbicha> bjsnider: ok, we don't necessarily need the Debian bug now
[18:19] <bjsnider> i figured depending on gnome-weather was safer because that will pull everything in
[18:19] <bjsnider> it may be too vague for debian
[18:20] <jbicha> bjsnider: but gnome-weather isn't in Debian or Ubuntu yet; there's a licensing problem
[18:21] <bjsnider> ok
[18:30] <bjsnider> jbicha, depends on the shared lib too right?
[18:32] <jbicha> yeah, a gir needs to depend on its library
[18:34] <bjsnider> what's the stupid licensing problem?
[18:50] <jbicha> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/703150
[18:52] <bjsnider> oh, just use public domain images
[18:54] <jbicha> that's one fix, if you want to submit a patch for that to GNOME, there's only a few days left before the 3.10 Freeze