[00:03] gerardo_, are you using gnome3-staging? [00:04] I have this version GNOME Shell 3.6.3.1 [01:05] darkxst: yeah I think that's just a Debian-specific packaging bug, see http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/gtk%2B3.0/debian/gir1.2-gtk-3.0.install?view=markup [01:59] Hey there, anyone able to offer some support for the 13.10 alpha? [02:16] hey guys [02:17] I can't figure this out for the life of me; is the DE Gnome Classic or Gnome Shell in Ubuntu Gnome? [02:18] pr0metheu5: which version are you using? [02:18] I'm not on Ubuntu Gnome, I was just wondering [02:18] what the default DE is [02:19] Default DE in Ubuntu GNOME is GNOME 3.6 [02:19] (Not Classic) [02:21] Ubuntu 13.10 will also include the new GNOME Classic (which is actually GNOME Shell with several pre-enabled extensions) but GNOME Shell will still be the default [02:22] Okay, gotcha [02:22] thanks =] [02:22] there's a screenshot of the new Classic at https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.8/ [02:23] That looks very neat [02:24] I'm excited [02:25] 3.8 is out though, it seems? [02:25] It is, you can use it with the 13.04 release by adding the gnome3 ppa [02:26] But it becomes the default in 13.10 (3.10 should be in the gnome3 ppa then) [02:29] Gnome makes it seem as though Ubuntu is a release behind, but the problem is the release dates vs testing, Gnome 3.10 arrives in September, Ubuntu-Gnome is in freeze then, so it means 3.10 can't be added :( [02:33] I'm gonna go install gnome 3.8 on my ubuntu install then [02:37] Just add the gnome3 ppa and do a dist-upgrade and thats it, if you want to try all the 3.8 stuff you will need gnome3-staging ppa aswell, but I've had no issues at all with it on three systems it runs on [03:10] hey, has anyone figured out how to change the theme on apps that still use gtk2 (like firefox)? [03:12] I think maybe you have to suck off your own face. top fucking lel. [03:12] â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€ â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–€â–€â–€â–‘â–„â–„â–„â–„â–‘â–‘â–‘â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–„â–„â–‘â–€â–„ â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–ˆâ–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–€â–€â–€â–€â–€â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–€â–‘â–‘â–ˆ â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–€â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–„â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–€â–„â–„â–„ â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–€â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–‘â–„â–€â– [03:24] well, i tried sucking my own face off but that didn't work. any other suggestions? --maybe something more probable/useful [03:28] huh, firefox looks like adwaita here [03:28] home: that was just a spammer, ignore him [03:28] in other words, this doesn't appear to be a problem for me [03:29] a good theme will support gtk2 and gtk3 [03:29] couldn't be a spammer, his message was such a coherent argument [03:29] home, what theme are you using? [03:45] bjsnider, i was trying to use zukitwo [03:46] i guess it's not good enough [03:46] do you know which themes do work? [03:50] darkxst: oh it's just a PPA bug then as it's for 3.9 [03:53] home, certainly adwaita, the default theme, would work [03:53] yes. the default theme is fine [04:04] jbicha, yes [17:16] Hi ricotz jbicha darkxst, does issues with importing your packaged version of libgweather from an extension ring a bell to you? Seems the new Weather extension stumbles on it: https://github.com/Neroth/gnome-shell-extension-weather/issues/137 . I'm just asking in case anything obvious comes to your mind, if not then no worry the developer will look at it [17:18] seems it's Ubuntu specific, Fedora & Arch are fine [17:24] ronj, i installed this extension manually and it works [17:25] bjsnider, interesting! so for you, installing from the website fails, but manually works, right? for me both fail [17:25] with the packaged gweather and do forth [17:25] i didn't try from the website [17:25] ok [17:25] bjsnider, what's your version of libgweather* ? [17:26] oh, and you installed the recent V2 rework published days ago, right? [17:26] for me the old version (not relying on libgweather) used to work too [17:27] i have both libs 6.2 and 8.2 [17:27] i am using the extension based on gweather [17:28] apparently the shared libs are not mutually exclusive, but everything else is 8 [17:29] I have both too [17:29] it says you don't have the typelib file [17:29] gir1.2-gweather-3 [17:29] hmm yeah I missed that, don't know what it means, do you? [17:29] install the above package [17:29] ok thx trying [17:31] have you got gnome-weather installed? [17:32] bjsnider, installing gir1.2-gweather-3 and reinstalling the ext did the trick! [17:32] yeah it is installed [17:32] gnome-weather pulls it in [17:32] hmmm well it didn't for me [17:32] dependency issue? [17:33] what happens if you try to uninstall the typelib package? [17:33] ... The following packages will be REMOVED: gir1.2-gweather-3.0 [17:33] and that's it [17:34] here it also has to remove gnome-weather [17:35] bjsnider, should I report a bug on gnome-team's LP? [17:35] where idd you get these packages? [17:35] i got mine from the stable ppa [17:37] well [17:38] turns out I didn't have gnome-weather. and there's no dep issue, now if I try to remove the typelib package, apt-get correctly asks to remove gnome-weather [17:39] wonder why you didn't have gnome-weather [17:39] but anyway, that's what is supposed to pull in the typelib [17:39] yup it does. maybe I uninstalled it because I didn't use it [17:40] so there's no bug [17:42] correct, ideally the extension dev. could show an error message if gnome-weather is absent, or just communicate the need for gnome-weather via its extension description. [17:42] thanks! [17:42] mentioning all that in the GitHub issue [17:58] it should be easier with 13.10: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-weather [18:01] obviously the package created for the extension should pull in gnome-weather [18:01] that would have fixed this particular issue [18:03] i haven't looked at it because i just build it from source, but i suppose it doesn't depend on it now [18:05] bjsnider: can you report that to Debian? [18:05] sure [18:06] js or python apps usually need to have their dependencies explicitly declared [18:06] in the app? [18:06] it doesn't need to depend on gnome-weather, just the gweather gir [18:07] oh it's part of pkg-gnome, I can fix it in svn at least [18:14] bjsnider: ok, we don't necessarily need the Debian bug now [18:19] i figured depending on gnome-weather was safer because that will pull everything in [18:19] it may be too vague for debian [18:20] bjsnider: but gnome-weather isn't in Debian or Ubuntu yet; there's a licensing problem [18:21] ok [18:30] jbicha, depends on the shared lib too right? [18:32] yeah, a gir needs to depend on its library [18:34] what's the stupid licensing problem? [18:50] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/703150 [18:50] Gnome bug 703150 in general "Please relicense art to CC-BY-SA 3.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [18:52] oh, just use public domain images [18:54] that's one fix, if you want to submit a patch for that to GNOME, there's only a few days left before the 3.10 Freeze === roasted_ is now known as roasted