[00:00] <dr_willis> there is a very very very nice conky theme-config tool listed at the postings on the webupd8 or omgubuntu site.  it makes it easy to add some nice conkyness to your desktop
[00:00] <checoimg> Hi guys a little question about CP command
[00:00] <histo> !ask | checoimg
[00:00]  * reisio considers !patience | histo :p
[00:01] <daftykins> yeah he loves those bot commands ¬_¬
[00:01] <checoimg> I want to make a two way synchronization, Will this work ? : cp -vau /media/user/Main /media/user/Backup
[00:01] <histo> !botsnack
[00:01] <Linuxfreak78> Hello all.  I have a shell script that I would like to have executed when X starts (in other words, the script requires that X be running, but I would like it to run prior to login).  Is there a way to accomplish this?
[00:01] <checoimg> and then
[00:01] <seg> Linuxfreak78: use /etc/rc.local
[00:01] <Babu_> im installing 13.04 server in a VMPlayer, the install works and goes to the terminal login prompt, i login and get the prompt, where do i go from here. how do i run/install gui?
[00:01] <histo> checoimg: what do you mean by two way synchronization?
[00:02] <checoimg>  cp -vau /media/user/Backup /media/user/Main
[00:02] <checoimg> so maybe
[00:02] <checoimg> cp -vau /media/user/Main /media/user/Backup && cp -vau /media/user/Backup /media/user/Main
[00:02] <histo> Linuxfreak78: .xinitrc
[00:02] <k1l> checoimg: for synchronization use rsync. for 2 way sync use unison
[00:02] <Mace268> why not rsync?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> Babu_, The ubuntu-sever runs without a gui, but you can install a desktop I guess.
[00:02] <seg> Linuxfreak78: oh yeah, thats better, xinitrc
[00:03] <jpds> Babu_: Why do you want a GUI on a server?
[00:03] <Babu_> wilee-nilee how do i do that?
[00:03] <Babu_> new to linux so not sure where to go after the install
[00:03] <histo> Babu_: sudo tasksel
[00:03] <jpds> Babu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI
[00:03] <histo> Babu_: why are you trying server edition if you are new?
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> Babu_, why, and why 13.04 12.04 is longterm with 5years support 13.04 is a 3rd of that
[00:04] <Babu_> because i want to play with LAMP (LAMP is installed)
[00:04] <jpds> Babu_: LAMP is not a toy.
[00:04] <daftykins> i love LAMP
[00:04] <dr_willis> Linuxfreak78: what does the script do exactly
[00:05] <jpds> daftykins: You love PHP? You poor thing.
[00:05] <reisio> checoimg: hrmmm
[00:06] <dr_willis> you csn install lamp on the desktop edition Babu_
[00:06] <daftykins> jpds: it was a film reference but it seems it was wasted :(
[00:07] <jpds> daftykins: https://jeena.net/images/2012/PHP-The-Good-Parts.pdf
[00:07] <Babu_> so i guess once i have LAMP installed and dont need a gui, where do i go from here?
[00:07] <Babu_> obviously a complete noob
[00:08] <reisio> checoimg: think I'd just script it
[00:08] <seg> Babu_: you could install a gui, or just do whatever lamp stuff you want from the bash interface or ssh into it from another box
[00:08] <daftykins> jpds: i know pretty much nothing of PHP, happy to keep it that way too
[00:08] <dr_willis> Babu_:  learn shell  and bash fundamentals
[00:08] <Babu_> ok, pointers?
[00:09] <Babu_> you guys are great
[00:09] <Babu_> thanks
[00:09] <dr_willis> !bash
[00:09] <seg> Babu_: Well, get a goal in mind that has to do with a LAMP stack, and then head towards the goal. It's hard to just play with a lamp stack without something in mind
[00:10] <checoimg> reisio ; I dunno how to script yet , surely is dead simple though
[00:10] <tsongki> how do i uninstall ubuntu OS
[00:11] <Babu_> ok so i want to eventually get joomla to play with
[00:11] <checoimg> tsongki : Go into Live CD nand install OS Uninstaller form PPA
[00:11] <histo> tsongki: what is it you want to install?
[00:11] <Babu_> i'll get the joomla hosted somewhere but wanted to play with it on my own first
[00:11] <Linuxfreak78> dr_willis, my laptop has a misbehaving touchscreen that constantly clicks on random parts of the screen.  I have a shell script that disables it when I'm logged in, but the login screen can still be very frustrating at times. I'm up for editing xinitrc as suggested, unless there is a better solution.
[00:11] <checoimg> tsongki : a google search should tell you where the PPA is
[00:11] <dr_willis> !lamp
[00:12] <checoimg> tsongki : I hear is a very good option
[00:12] <seg> !joomla
[00:12] <fellayaboy> im using compiz and when i use the volume upand down on my keyboard it shows a very low resolution picture of an icon..how can i fix it so thats its a high res icon..i think they call that icon the notify-osd.. i installed notify-osd-icons but still no luck
[00:12] <tsongki> wait does that uninstall also the partition that ubuntu made
[00:12] <r4f43l> hellou
[00:13] <r4f43l> is problem my wifi atheros 9485
[00:13] <r4f43l> is not up icon
[00:13] <reisio> checoimg: for i in foo bar; do rsync -av source/ "$i"; done
[00:13] <reisio> checoimg: where foo and bar are directories
[00:13] <r4f43l> helpme
[00:13] <reisio> checoimg: you need to test it though, rsync has tricky syntax
[00:14] <tsongki> histo im going to switch to mint cinnamon
[00:14] <reisio> might not even be worth it for only two
[00:14] <reisio> rsync -av source foo && rsync -av source bar is actually shorter :p
[00:16] <trism> fellayaboy: in the center of the screen or the top right?
[00:16] <dr_willis> Linuxfreak78:  i doubt if .xinitrc is what you want. that would be a per-user file. and would only run after the user logs in. and even then. it wont run depending on what desktop the user selects. Best would be to have lightdm run the command.
[00:16] <dr_willis> Linuxfreak78:  you definatly dont want /etc/rc.local
[00:17] <Linuxfreak78> That's a thought.  How would I get lightdm to run it?
[00:17] <dr_willis> check the lightdm configs and docs. it can do it.  askubuntu.com may have a guide
[00:18] <jrib> Linuxfreak78: how do you disable it?
[00:19] <Babu_> how do you disable all these join announcements in this window on irc
[00:19] <oisa> Are nVidia drivers OK on 13.10 yet?
[00:21] <Linuxfreak78> jrib, I disable it using several xinput commands.  I can give specifics if you need them (I'm happy to help if you need it because it drove me crazy!)
[00:22] <dr_willis> Linuxfreak78:  if you dont need it 'disabled' at the login screen. your user could run a script to do the commands from their autorun directory
[00:23] <Babu_> how do you disable all these join announcements in this window on irc
[00:23] <dr_willis> if you DO need it disabled. then you would want lightdm to run the commands.
[00:23] <djapo> is anyone else not able to right click on forwarded windows over ssh?
[00:23] <dr_willis> Babu_:  totally depends on your irc client. I dont see any parts or joins or quits at all. ;)
[00:23] <Babu_> im on the default web client in the browser
[00:24] <fellayaboy> anyone know how to fix the low resolution problem in notify-osd
[00:24] <reisio> fellayaboy: which problem?
[00:24] <dr_willis> Babu_:  look at its settings menus
[00:25] <fellayaboy> well when i press the volume up and down...the icon is low resolution ...it looks ugly
[00:25] <Babu_> hmm nothing ike that i can see
[00:25] <dr_willis> Babu_:  and you may want to start usng a better irc client.
[00:25] <Babu_> but i'll try something
[00:25] <Babu_> hehe:)
[00:25] <Babu_> fo sho
[00:25] <dr_willis> Babu_:  the freenode web site client has options to hide part/joins.
[00:25] <fellayaboy> reisio.  when i press the volume up and down on my keyboard the popup icon of the volume is very low resolution
[00:26] <Babu_> i think thats what im using
[00:26] <fellayaboy> reisio im using compiz
[00:26] <Babu_> qwebirc
[00:26] <reisio> fellayaboy: you mean it's smaller than you'd like?
[00:26] <dr_willis> Babu_:  ask in #freenode  or explore the settings more for it..  i dont use it.
[00:26] <Babu_> ok great thank
[00:26] <Babu_> thanks
[00:27] <dr_willis> Babu_:  you may want to use xchat for a gui client. or weechat for a text only client
[00:28] <Linuxfreak78> dr_willis, that's what I've been doing.  I typically log in automatically, but would prefer that the touchscreen be disabled starting with the login screen as I like to switch between desktop environments and it takes much longer to select the one I want when the cursor is 'clicking' in random places every second or two.
[00:31] <histo> ?
[00:37] <Babu_> !clear
[00:39] <Linuxfreak78> Thanks to everyone for your help.  At the very least, you guys have me started in the right direction.  Have a good day/night everyone!
[00:40] <justtesting132> .
[00:40] <Fritjof_Gabriel> Hello everyone, Fritjof_Gabrielhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[00:57] <eduslack> Good night! I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) but the Personal Folder icon is with that old. Anyone know what to do to fix this?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> !13.10
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> eduslack, ^^^^^
[01:01] <boggle> wilee-nilee: thanks! worked just fine!
[01:01] <boggle> exit
[01:01] <boggle> lol, whoops
[01:01] <readyjar_> How come my software center is screwed? The font is almost readable (all blurry) and the whole thing likes to crash
[01:02] <dr_willis> try making a new user see if its goofed up for them also  readyjar_
[01:02] <stayonthehustle> Hey, can any one recommend a clipboard manager of sorts?
[01:03] <reisio> stayonthehustle: of sorts?
[01:04] <stayonthehustle> not of sorts I guess, but a clipboard manager. :)
[01:06] <SuperNoeMan> hi, I have a program that I wrote the source to. I'm compiling it and running it just fine on one platform
[01:06] <SuperNoeMan> but then when I try to run it on anther it dies
[01:07] <SuperNoeMan> can anybody help me find out why it won't even load the program?
[01:07] <SuperNoeMan> hold on... let me the the gdb output
[01:07] <wting> What's the fastest way to filter out all lines greater than a certain length with pipe input?
[01:08] <readyjar_> SuperNoeMan: Tried compiling for target platform?
[01:08] <SuperNoeMan> readyjar_: I didn't migrate platforms
[01:08] <SuperNoeMan> just machines
[01:09] <SuperNoeMan> and yes, I recompiled it. In fact, compilation went without hitch
[01:09] <SuperNoeMan> ... 1 sec, here's gdb output:
[01:09] <SuperNoeMan> http://pastebin.com/unMm5Cj0
[01:12] <readyjar_> Software center fails to launch now, this is the error: http://fpaste.org/31948/64427111/
[01:12] <Fah> you're using dlopen on a library tht doesn't exist SuperNoeMan ?
[01:12] <Fah> it'll compile fine since the dlopen shit is runtime
[01:13] <SuperNoeMan> ah is that it?
[01:13] <kubunto> quick question: how do i install openssh from commandline
[01:13] <SuperNoeMan> wow, how did you know
[01:13] <SuperNoeMan> Fah: ^ also, then how to I install the dlopen?
[01:13] <Fah> Read the warnings
[01:14] <Fah> Could not load shared library symbols for linux-vdso.so.1.
[01:14] <Runemoro> Hi, what's the difference between Ubuntu core, Ubuntu server minimal install and mini.iso minimal install
[01:14] <SuperNoeMan> yeah I wondered what vdso was
[01:14] <Jeruvy>  !openssh | kubunto
[01:14] <SuperNoeMan> I tried to find what package it belongs to, but couldn't
[01:14] <trism> wting: sed -n '/^.\{80\}/!p'
[01:14] <trism> wting: or whatever length other than 80
[01:14] <Fah> Run ldconfig -v |grep linux-vdso.so on the working platform. Compare it to the other
[01:14] <Fah> Is this a 64/32 bit thing?
[01:15] <paddymahoney> ubuntu core is a small, byok distribution that is basically just what is needed to bootstrap apt-get
[01:15] <Jeruvy> !find openssh | kubunto
[01:15] <Runemoro> Also, where can I get a package list that doesn't include dependencies
[01:15] <Fah> you will need the shared lib for the platform. Or you  will need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to where the existing platform uses provided you have all the crap it's linked against
[01:15] <SuperNoeMan> Fah: no, I don't think so
[01:15] <Jeruvy> kubunto sudo apt-get install (package above)
[01:15] <wting> trism: thanks!
[01:15] <kubunto> Jeruvy: thanks
[01:16] <Runemoro> paddymahoney: Does ubuntu minimal have more packages?
[01:16] <Fah> hrm, i might be misleading you. I think that lib is pretty core to the kernel
[01:16] <Jeruvy> kurtcoke cheers
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> Runemoro, They are all basically the ubuntu base, you have no commas in that question though so it is a bit confusing
[01:16] <paddymahoney> Ubuntu server core is supposed to be a trim basis for like, vm images and small appliances and stuff. Runemoro
[01:16] <paddymahoney> Runemoro: yes
[01:16] <SuperNoeMan> Fah: that makes sense, but why doesn't it give a sensible error about what library it couldn't find in order that I could know?
[01:16] <paddymahoney> Runemoro: It has the debian alternate installer, fits on a cd iso
[01:18] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: you're fighting with a library loading problem it seems. The compiler warnings/errors wont be much use I think
[01:18] <Runemoro> paddymahoney, wilee-nilee: Thank you
[01:18] <stayonthehustle> For clipboard managers: Diodon or CopyQ?
[01:18] <Fah> is ldd able to find everything it's linked to?
[01:19] <anannie> Hey there, I have Ubuntu 11.04 installed on my netbook and I would like to upgrade it without losing any data. I did sudo do-release-upgrade and for some reason it said no new releases found
[01:19] <SuperNoeMan> not compiler warnings, but when you go to run the program without gdb
[01:19] <SuperNoeMan> it just dies without any mention of a where or why...
[01:19] <anannie> is there any way I can do the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 then to 12.04?
[01:19] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: are you using dlopen? Or are you linking to libraries
[01:20] <Jeruvy> anannie 11.04 is EOL.  You'd do better to backup and do a fresh install.  You could have issues with the upgrade
[01:20] <paddymahoney> Runemoro np!
[01:20] <daftykins> Heed groovy Jeruvy's words well, people
[01:20] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:20] <Jeruvy> Thank daftykins :)
[01:20] <Jeruvy> +s
[01:20] <SuperNoeMan> Fah I'm not aware of dlopen explicitly
[01:20] <anannie> Jeruvy: I know. I'm afraid that a backup and a fresh install isn't an option... Is there any way at all to do that upgrade?
[01:20] <SuperNoeMan> I'm building of a software library using Cmake
[01:21] <SuperNoeMan> and it's loading .so files that are dependencies dynamically
[01:21] <Jeruvy> anannie why isn't it an option?  Older hardware?
[01:21] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: then yeah, that's defering to dlopen
[01:21] <SuperNoeMan> ah ok
[01:21] <anannie> Jeruvy: Old netbook to be precise. Plus, there is a lot of data on this that I want to preserve, specific configurations etc.
[01:22] <anannie> Jeruvy: It's just going to be a pain to set it all back up
[01:22] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: dpkg -l each system and diff the output? You're missing binary libs that are needed at runtime but not compile time
[01:22] <Jordan_U> !eol | anannie
[01:22] <daftykins> anannie: fwiw 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' might be what you're after
[01:22] <daftykins> unless it's just been removed
[01:22] <anannie> jordan : already read that.
[01:22] <anannie> daftykins: That isn't working
[01:22] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: that's assuming all the files are owned by a package. If you manuallly installed stuff then you're going to have fun with find and diff
[01:23] <daftykins> anannie: with the -d ?
[01:23] <anannie> jordan : Updated the sources.list and so on, it isn't working
[01:23] <anannie> yeah
[01:23] <daftykins> you're out of options then
[01:23] <Jordan_U> anannie: Please pastebin your sources.lst.
[01:23] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: the alternative is to link to the libs you need. If they're not present you'll get link errors
[01:23] <Jordan_U> daftykins: -d stands for "development", anannie isn't trying to upgrade to a development release of Ubuntu.
[01:23] <anannie> The CD portion is commented out btw Jordan_U
[01:23] <BlitzHere> Hi all. I'm having trouble with musicbrainz tag and cover art lookups while ripping out my music CDs with Rhythmbox. Can anyone help?
[01:24] <BlitzHere> Is there a musicbrainz plugin that i can install?
[01:24] <daftykins> Jordan_U: uh-huh
[01:24] <anannie> http://pastebin.com/3KdZghEk
[01:24] <anannie> ^ Jordan_U
[01:25] <Jordan_U> anannie: You have apparently not followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades.
[01:25] <Jeruvy> anannie not really an answer, but you don't have to upgrade.  It may be better to leave it as is.  Otherwise do a backup of all /home /var /usr then a fresh install.
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Jeruvy: Using an OS without security updates only might make sense if you're not going to be connected to the internet.
[01:26] <BlitzHere> I also have this odd problem where installing rhythmbox doesn't set up an icon in the HUD. I can still run it through the terminal though
[01:27] <anannie> Jordan_U: Erm, it told me to insert such and such sources to that and they were already there, so I didn't really see the point in doing so
[01:27] <Jeruvy> Jordan_U true, but it beats breaking everything.
[01:27] <SuperNoeMan> Fah: well I don't want to link against them if I have to change source
[01:27] <SuperNoeMan> if it is a compilation step I need, then I can go with that
[01:27] <anannie> Jordan_U: Ah it was old-releases not archive. sorry about that. Will change that
[01:28] <SuperNoeMan> also, Fah: I just added the libs to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[01:28] <SuperNoeMan> and it still dies without ever revealing why...
[01:28] <Fah> SuperNoeMan:same error in gdb?
[01:28] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: when you run ldd on the libs, are they missing any deps?
[01:29] <SuperNoeMan> yes
[01:29] <SuperNoeMan> ldd?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> Jeruvy: Risking your data, or risking becomming part of a botnet is in my opinion not better than "breaking everything".
[01:29] <Fah> ldd shows shared library dpes
[01:29] <Fah> deps
[01:29] <niCe> i hace a huge problem
[01:29] <niCe> have
[01:30] <Jeruvy> Jordan_U I don't share your opinion, but I respect where your going.
[01:30] <niCe> something went wrong with Ubuntu all restarted like the GUI then I rebooted and my laptop says no is installed then tries booting a live CD and it does not detect my hard drive what happened?!?!?!?!
[01:30] <SuperNoeMan> well I ran ldd on my own
[01:30] <Jordan_U> anannie: No problem. Good luck with the upgrade and be sure to have rescue media at hand in case something goes wrong.
[01:30] <SuperNoeMan> and I don't know if it's missing any libs...
[01:30] <SuperNoeMan> how can I recursively check
[01:30] <daftykins> niCe: what are you typing from now?
[01:30] <Fah> run ldd on the *.so fils you added to LD_LIBRARY_PATH and look for "Not found"
[01:30] <anannie> Jordan_U: I usually eye ball stuff and I spot errors, but in my head somehow archives became old-releases and so on
[01:31] <Jordan_U> niCe: It sounds like your hard drive, or possibly the motherboard or just a cable, died.
[01:31] <anannie> Jordan_U: Thanks for spotting that and apologies if I wasted your time
[01:31] <SuperNoeMan> ah ok
[01:31] <SuperNoeMan> thanks Fah
[01:31] <Jordan_U> anannie: No problem, it happens to all of us :)
[01:32] <BlitzHere> join #rhythmbox
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, /j #rhythmbox
[01:33] <niCe> it happened once and I solved it mounting the hard drive from live CD
[01:33] <niCe> but now is not there
[01:33] <niCe> what can I do
[01:33] <Fah> SuperNoeMan: the man pages for dlopen, and ldd might help you understand the code better
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> niCe, Check the areas suggested might be involved.
[01:34] <BlitzHere> wilee-nilee: Thanks, stuppid typo :P
[01:34] <SuperNoeMan> ah ok
[01:34] <SuperNoeMan> Fah: so far no, I don't see a single not found
[01:34] <niCe> what areas
[01:35] <daftykins> niCe: what does 'sudo fdisk -l' in a terminal on the livecd show?
[01:35] <niCe> hold on
[01:35] <semitones> is it normal for a 2TB hard drive to take 8 hours to partition into ext4?
[01:35] <curatrix> no
[01:36] <semitones> *usb hard drive
[01:36] <curatrix> semitones: Maybe, But it still seems excessive
[01:36] <checoimg> No is not normal
[01:36] <curatrix> USB2 should chug along at about 40Mb/s
[01:37] <checoimg> I have a 2TB HDD
[01:37] <daftykins> *MB
[01:37] <checoimg> and when I partitioned it to ext4 it didn't last much
[01:37] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I have application server in ubuntu?
[01:37] <niCe> I see dev SDA
[01:37] <checoimg> copying 300 GB to it yest
[01:37] <semitones> mine took more than 8 hours; it was doing something inode by inode
[01:37] <niCe> do I need to mount it?
[01:37] <daftykins> niCe: can you pastebin the output?
[01:37] <semitones> I was using the gparted live cd
[01:38] <semitones> i just hope it's ok
[01:38] <niCe> daftykins no I am in my phone
[01:38] <niCe> hold on
[01:38] <checoimg> Maybe you'll use the normal Disk tool form Ubuntu next time
[01:38] <curatrix> semitones: it sounds like the usb bus is the bottleneck
[01:39] <checoimg> I use it so I don;t make the partitions on super user
[01:39] <siva> hi everyone....
[01:40] <anannie> Jordan_U: Hrm. I'm still running into an error
[01:40] <Guest8058> i want some information regarding how to use mininet in ubuntu
[01:40] <Dr_iBble> what is mininet?
[01:40] <mini> i want to repair my 12.04 lts
[01:40] <mini> using the terminal with sudo what is the command
[01:40] <Guest8058> does anyone know about mininet?????
[01:40] <xangua> !details | mini
[01:41] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I have application server in ubuntu?
[01:41] <anannie> Jordan_U: http://pastie.org/private/vgd7m1zs2wicbm4odebfg
[01:41] <Jeruvy> isn't mininet a terminal for a serial port
[01:41] <Dr_iBble> qemu is a good emulator
[01:42] <stayonthehustle> Has anyone ever experiened trying to make a symbolic link and it says the target already exists? (when it doesn't)
[01:42] <Dr_iBble> stayonthehustle try "ls -lsa"
[01:42] <Guest8058> mininet is an tool..used for a particular purpose like which can be use to analyze the network traffic connected in your lan...
[01:42] <Dr_iBble> there may be a hidden link
[01:43] <mini> true
[01:43] <semitones> curatrix, then it took my raspberry pi a full minute to mount the drive
[01:44] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I have application server in ubuntu?
[01:44] <stayonthehustle> Dr_iBble: what does the l and the a do? I don't see them in the man.
[01:44] <Guest8058> any help about this tool
[01:44] <mini> I have ubuntu 12.04 and trying to upgrade but it says can't read mirrir file.
[01:44] <mini> mirror
[01:44] <Dr_iBble> stayonthehustle l = list with details; a = all files including hidden
[01:44] <curatrix> semitones: It could be the usb interface......A lot of the usb drive cradles/holders are hopelessly slow
[01:45] <semitones> sigh I was hoping that wasn't the case
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, Try #ubuntu-server
[01:45] <semitones> I bought a usb 3.0 drive because I hoped it would be fast
[01:45] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks
[01:45] <Dr_iBble> mojtaba try qemu with kvm
[01:45] <semitones> (even though I can only use it in 2.0 mode)
[01:45] <stayonthehustle> Dr_iBble: Thank you. I think I actually had the target backwards..
[01:45]  * stayonthehustle smashes forehead
[01:46] <curatrix> semitones: will the bus handle a usb 3 interface .......The pi only has a usb 2
[01:46] <mojtaba> Dr_iBble: could you please explain more?
[01:46] <semitones> 3 is backwards compatible with 2
[01:46] <semitones> i thought
[01:46] <nice_> im here
[01:46] <Dr_iBble> stayonthehustle congrats, thats a common mistake i make myself Xd
[01:46] <nice_> who was helping me
[01:46] <curatrix> semitones: It is but it is slow
[01:46] <semitones> oh :/
[01:46] <semitones> i made a bad purchasing decision then
[01:46] <daftykins> nice_: pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' if you can
[01:47] <nice_> yes I am in the machine now
[01:47] <daftykins> semitones: i think something just went funky with your format
[01:47] <nice_> http://pastebin.com/GdTUCvWQ daftykins
[01:47] <semitones> daftykins, would fsck catch anything wrong?
[01:47] <daftykins> semitones: not sure, wouldn't hurt - though i bet it'd crawl if run on the pi :D
[01:48] <curatrix> semitones: It is a little disheartening as I have a pi here with a 750GB drive that I was about to get a cradle for
[01:48] <semitones> probably
[01:48] <daftykins> nice_: nope looks like only the 1GB flash drive is found, if that's a flash drive?
[01:48]  * nice_ cries
[01:48] <nice_> what-s going on
[01:48] <nice_> daftykins: yeees
[01:48] <Beatstreet> is there a replacement for ethtool?
[01:48] <Beatstreet> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:48] <Beatstreet>   ethtool
[01:48] <daftykins> nice_: if it's a desktop PC, check the hard disk connections inside
[01:48] <daftykins> (when turned off, naturally)
[01:48] <semitones> curatrix, well the pi didn't do the formatting -- I should have done that since it took 8 hours -- it was my laptop with the gparted live cd
[01:48] <nice_> all was working ok, just ubuntu crashed
[01:48] <nice_> whyyy
[01:48] <nice_> and this happened
[01:48] <nice_> daftykins: laptop
[01:48] <daftykins> ooh
[01:49] <Dr_iBble> semitones, daftykins and curatrix what is up with the raspberry pi?
[01:49] <nice_> all was working just openbox crashed
[01:49] <daftykins> nice_: try switching it off, pulling the mains and the battery out, wait a few minutes, then reassemble and power back in
[01:49] <daftykins> *on
[01:49] <nice_> daftykins: ok brb
[01:49] <nice_> thanks
[01:50] <semitones> Dr_iBble, nothings wrong with the pi, but the USB hdd I got is weird. It took 8 hours to format from ntfs to ext4, and it was going inode by inode at the rate of 1 every 2 seconds
[01:50] <nice_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/B5LJS66Q
[01:50] <nice_> found that in dmesg
[01:50] <nice_> does it help?
[01:51] <Dr_iBble> what switches did you pass to dd?
[01:51] <semitones> Dr_iBble, I formatted it with gparted, no special options
[01:51] <Dr_iBble> mojtaba what application server do you require?
[01:51] <nice_> those are all the errors daftykins http://pastebin.com/isxr4YBV
[01:51] <Dr_iBble> semitones were you on a raspberry pi?
[01:52] <semitones> Dr_iBble, no I was on my laptop
[01:52] <Dr_iBble> is the issue with usb 1.0 ?
[01:52] <daftykins> nice_: looks like your disk might not be happy :(
[01:52] <Dr_iBble> how old is the laptop?
[01:52] <daftykins> nice_: try the power thing
[01:52] <semitones> Dr_iBble, it was usb 3.0 running in 2.0 mode
[01:53] <Dr_iBble> ahh so no lack of power. hmmm has the issue been resolved?
[01:53] <nice_> daftykins: but data is the disk, right?
[01:53] <nice_> it happened once, something with the distro I am sure
[01:53] <nice_> I remember I just came to the live cd and tried to install it again, like it mounted and all was fixed Dr_iBble
[01:53] <nice_> brb then
[01:53] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to rule it out
[01:54] <mojtaba> Dr_iBble: I want to be able to run my applications from PI.
[01:54] <damianos> trying to set up a compiz standalone session with ubuntu 13.04. I am not getting any windows or compositing
[01:55] <Dr_iBble> if you have issues with a slow format you should check syslog in another tty console by pressing "cntl + alt + fX" X being F1 to F7 keys
[01:56] <Dr_iBble> mojtaba you should look into qemu armv7 with kvm support. or in general a armv7 version of linux.
[01:56] <Dr_iBble> mojtaba i mean qemu with armv7 support and kvm
[01:57] <niCe> daftykins you here?
[01:57] <niCe> daftykins it worked!!!!!!!
[01:57] <niCe> oh my God
[01:57] <mojtaba> Dr_iBble: ok thanks. I will take a look at it.
[01:57] <niCe> I was crying!!!!
[01:57] <daftykins> <3
[01:57] <niCe> thanks!!!!
[01:57] <daftykins> np :)
[01:58] <niCe> but what happened why?????? a bad Ubuntu kernel configuration? you know? a lot of kernel panics occur
[01:58] <daftykins> niCe: could be worth checking the disk is healthy, could be a little concerning
[01:58] <niCe> how to check it
[01:58] <daftykins> i'd probably memtest the system to check it's stable
[01:58] <niCe> how?
[01:58] <daftykins> run 'disk utility' and look for the SMART data on the drive
[01:58] <daftykins> !memtest
[01:59] <daftykins> aww ubottu you disappoint me
[01:59] <niCe> disk utility
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> niCe, Back up your stuff, it cuts down on the crying. ;)
[02:00] <semitones> Dr_iBble, I'll remember that next time I'm formatting, it's long done now. I am suspicios that there's something wrong with it still becaues it took a minute for the pi to mount it.
[02:00] <semitones> Dr_iBble, I don't know anything else to do to check if it is working properly
[02:00] <Dr_iBble> smart errors should show in syslog on boot. or try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-find-out-if-harddisk-failing.html
[02:02] <semitones> ty
[02:02] <Dr_iBble> semitones check the bottom of my link for a quicker and easier result.
[02:03] <niCe> daftykins got it what now Ickickedi smart data
[02:03] <semitones> you mean smartcl?
[02:03] <niCe> says daftykins 70 bad sectors
[02:04] <niCe> should I go to run self test?
[02:04] <semitones> it's brand new so I hope smart doesn't detect anything
[02:04] <d3str0y> hi
[02:04] <daftykins> niCe: that drive is going to die, backup your stuff!
[02:04] <niCe> really????
[02:05] <daftykins> niCe: is that laptop old?
[02:05] <daftykins> yeah even 1 bad sector i consider game over
[02:05] <niCe> but is with a green dot
[02:05] <niCe> not red
[02:05] <daftykins> can you up a screenshot?
[02:05] <daftykins> of the smart data window
[02:05] <niCe> it is like 3 years old
[02:05] <Dr_iBble> backup unless you are willing to gamble the data away.
[02:06] <Dr_iBble> 1tb drive had failed me 30minutes after purchase.
[02:06] <niCe> hold on daftykins
[02:06] <semitones> whoa
[02:06] <Dr_iBble> it had maybe 10minutes of use.
[02:07] <daftykins> it happens
[02:07] <Dr_iBble> that was the last seagate i ever purchased
[02:07] <daftykins> their disks only have 1yr warranties now =|
[02:07] <daftykins> though i always bought WD
[02:08] <Dr_iBble> yuss WD will rule supreme!
[02:08] <Dr_iBble> lesson to be learnt, don't sell out... Xd
[02:10] <nice_> daftykins: here_
[02:11] <daftykins> D:
[02:11] <nice_> uploading daftykins
[02:12] <nice_> daftykins: you see it? http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img27/4272/53t3.png
[02:14] <daftykins> nice_: yeah the reallocated sector count shows she's toast
[02:14] <daftykins> nice_: copy anything off asap and buy a new one
[02:14] <daftykins> nice_: or you could check the warranty with Toshiba if it isn't old
[02:14] <nice_> daftykins: can-t be fixed?
[02:14] <nice_> 3 years old
[02:15] <daftykins> nope she's dead
[02:15] <nice_> what are those test for? short extenden convenyance?
[02:15] <daftykins> time to get the funeral arrangements rolling
[02:15] <curatrix> Time for a SSD upgrade ;)
[02:15] <daftykins> tests are more for awkward issues
[02:15] <daftykins> you don't even have to test a drive in that state
[02:16] <Bjond> burial at sea
[02:20] <daftykins> nice_: your standard SATA HDD is quite cheap anywho
[02:21]  * xmetal plays "taps" on a kazoo (or is that gazoo?) for the hdd
[02:27] <semitones> what does "si" stand for in top?
[02:28]  * reisio resists urge
[02:29] <reisio> semitones: man top, /CPU States
[02:29] <rypervenche> reisio: Oh, I see what you did there.
[02:29] <semitones> reisio, thx
[02:29] <reisio> "it's spanish for yes!" etc.
[02:30] <xmetal> lol
[02:30] <daftykins> i wanted to say topsi turvy
[02:30] <daftykins> but that's just me :(
[02:30] <semitones> what is "time spend servising software interrupts?"
[02:31] <semitones> s/servising/servicing/
[02:31] <Dr_iBble> cherrio!
[02:32] <daftykins> semitones: the processor doing work for a system device
[02:33] <semitones> daftykins, is a system device something in /dev ?
[02:33] <daftykins> any hardware in the computer, interrupts are the way they ask the processor to do things for them
[02:33] <daftykins> e.g. a graphics card might say 'hey gimme this data in RAM'
[02:35] <dcope> hey all, how can i get my system to reload /etc/security/limits.conf?
[02:37] <dcope> does it really require a reboot?
[02:39] <theosdev> how to create an app in ubuntu?
[02:40] <curatrix> theosdev: In what/which language?
[02:40] <Raging> What kind of combat games are on the ubuntu store for downloads?
[02:40] <savagecroc> does anyone here run ubuntu on a macbook pro hardware  and if so.. how do you find performance, battery life etc?
[02:41] <theosdev> curatrix : in python
[02:41] <semitones> daftykins, ok. For some reason, while I was downloading an ubuntu torrent, rtorrent was high in si
[02:41] <curatrix> theosdev: Try this   http://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/
[02:42] <daftykins> semitones: sorry i gotta head to bed now :( i'm not too familiar with that either
[02:42] <semitones> gnight man!
[02:42] <daftykins> nn :)
[02:42] <xmetal> si?
[02:43] <xmetal> (sorry ... couldn't help myself)
[02:43] <xmetal> :)
[02:43] <willows> So, I was trying to remove some old kernels from /lib/modules/, and it seems that I may have removed my current kernel as well. I noticed this because my audio stopped working.. Trying to troubleshoot this I entered the command uname -a in terminal and it outputed that I am on 3.5.0-37-generic. However, the most recent kernel in /lib/modules/ now is 3.5.0-36-generic. I don't really understand how I could be running on a kernel that I 
[02:43] <willows> I think that what I want to do is download 3.5.0-37-generic.. Any thoughts?
[02:43] <theosdev> curatrix : ok, thanks
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> willows, Run a grub update to see what is there.
[02:44] <jrib> willows: you should be using apt to manage these things unless you installed your kernels without using apt
[02:44] <Ari-Yang> willows, if you remove a current kernel you're using, you are still using it from what I understand, until you reboot
[02:44] <Ari-Yang> willows, how I deleted my old kernels was with Synapitc
[02:44] <Ari-Yang> * Synaptic
[02:45] <xmetal> i do suddenly remember i have to see why i got some (didn't write them down) Dpkg errors when trying to upgrade the kernal in oh dang .. wrong room
[02:45] <xmetal> a .. different OS
[02:45] <xmetal> keep forgetting
[02:45] <willows> wilee-nilee:  sudo apt-get update grub?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> willows, sudo update-grub
[02:47] <rjknight1> hello, based on this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/331975/how-can-we-make-our-ubuntu-server-router-as-gateway-mode-to-router-mode/331997?noredirect=1#comment422678_331997
[02:47] <rjknight1> The problem found. If we disable the masquerading, it can ping(visible) the hosts (PC1,PC2,PC3) from *7.x networks but it can't remote/connect to it. However, when we enable the the masquerade we can connect to it but it can't be ping(invisible).Any idea of what/why is this happened?
[02:47] <willows> wilee-nilee, it lists -37 as if it's there
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> willows, You might have removed part of it, not an area I have had to fix, I'm very careful removing kernels, so can't really trouble shoot this.
[02:49] <xmetal> i just upgrade kernels and leave the old ones in place
[02:54] <xmetal> hmm either no one is typing after my last comment or i am lagging for some reason
[02:54] <Jeruvy> its quiet atm
[02:56] <Sivik> any way to get stubs-32.h installed on a 64-bit ubuntu installation?
[02:57] <xmetal> oops
[02:57] <xmetal> sorry Acce ... hit the wrong button in hexchat
[02:58] <xmetal> lol
[02:58] <xmetal> that was odd .. never changed mp3s to have it start transfering before
[03:01] <Guest8058> hi
[03:02] <usr13> Guest64600: There are over 1600 on this channel, let's hope they don't all say hi back.
[03:03] <semitones> my new goal: to make #ubuntu so popular that there are over 9000 users
[03:03] <krz> any gui tools for mongodb?
[03:04] <angela> Hi I have an upstart script to run a node.js script.
[03:04] <Guest46849> hi i have installed 13.04 in my laptop...now my question how to install java in it
[03:04] <angela> However, after issuing 'start node_shortener', I can't find the process running as indicated by ps aux or forever list.
[03:04] <xangua> !java | Guest46849
[03:04] <angela> here is my script http://askubuntu.com/questions/332331/upstart-no-process
[03:05] <angela> how can I start troubleshooting?
[03:05] <krz> anyone?
[03:05] <Xochipilli> krz pm
[03:06] <willows> Ok, thanks for the help
[03:06] <Xochipilli> willows
[03:06] <Xochipilli> hey
[03:06] <Xochipilli> pm me real quick
[03:08] <usr13> angela: Is that the configuration file?
[03:08] <angela> yes, its the node_shortener.conf file in /etc/init
[03:09] <willows> Xochipilli pming me highly offensive material
[03:10] <usr13> angela: Ok, well, here's how it works.  Yes, you can put a config file in /etc/init  and it can be something that the actual script refers to and uses, but the actual script would go in /etc/init.d/
[03:10] <angela> oh
[03:10] <usr13> angela: And you would then need to chmod +x  it
[03:10] <angela> lemme try that
[03:11] <usr13> angela: And you can just name it node_shortner
[03:13] <usr13> angela: So you might just need to  sudo mv /etc/init/node_shortener.conf /etc/init.d/node_shortener ;sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/node_shortner  #And that may be all it takes.
[03:15] <angela> usr13: but then I get start: Unknown job: node_shortener
[03:15] <usr13> angela: When you do ____________?
[03:16] <angela> start node_shortener
[03:16] <willows> Ok, I restarted my computer and chose to login with kernel 3.5.0-36-generic instead of 3.5.0-37-generic and everything seems to be working.
[03:16] <langhun> hello
[03:16] <trism> angela: you had it right the first time, though I don't know why it isn't working, you could check /var/log/upstart/node_shortener.log to see if there is an error
[03:16] <angela> oh okay
[03:17] <willows> Hopefully I won't encounter any issues related to this in the future.
[03:18] <SuperNoeMan> I have an issue with a program that I built from source not being able to load into memory
[03:18] <SuperNoeMan> I don't know why it won't run...
[03:18] <SuperNoeMan> http://pastebin.com/unMm5Cj0
[03:18] <SuperNoeMan> or at least, how to determine what exactly is causing it. Because the only thing it does is say segfault and core dumped
[03:18] <langhun> i have removed those packages （network-manager and network-manager) with the command 'apt-get purge network-manger*'）
[03:18] <angela> silly question, what happens when I do stop "upstart_service"?
[03:19] <SuperNoeMan> and then die. WHen you debug it, you find that it dies before ever getting loaded into memory
[03:19] <langhun> then  i can't get internet
[03:19] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: i would try a programming channel..
[03:19] <angela> does it just kill whatever process that was created in the script section?
[03:19] <holstein> langhun: you can manually download the .deb's..
[03:19] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: well, I think the reason why it's not working is because of a new platform that I'm trying to get it to run on
[03:20] <Matthew_Moore> Anyone here know anything about Pulse Audio Volume control? i got an issue with it
[03:20] <SuperNoeMan> I had it on a different machine, and now that I'm migrating it's crashing...
[03:20] <langhun> i have down and installed
[03:20] <angela> trism: I didn't find any error message
[03:20] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: i wouldnt know, and i dont have experience.. but, folks in a programming channel might.. i can say, nothing about ubuntu is preventing you from running your application
[03:20] <angela> just a few logs that mongodb is already started
[03:21] <langhun> but it doesn't work
[03:21] <holstein> langhun: what doesnt what, friend? you downloaded what and tried what? and what isnt working?
[03:21] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: how can you say that you know this much conclusively, when you haven't listened to the problem?
[03:22] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, what is the issue?
[03:22] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: i dont know much/anything about programming..
[03:22] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: it's not necessarily about programming, I don't know what the problem is exactly, and I'm trying to find it
[03:22] <SuperNoeMan> it could be a platform thing, it may not
[03:23] <SuperNoeMan> Wulframn:
[03:23] <SuperNoeMan> I'm having trouble with an application that I compiled from my own source. It's segfaulting before ever being loaded into memory. The program runs fine on another machine I have, I'm trying to do a migration and I'm having trouble finding the exact reason why it's failing
[03:23] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: feel free and wait.. but you likely wont get help for that here
[03:23] <SuperNoeMan> http://pastebin.com/unMm5Cj0
[03:23] <SuperNoeMan> that post is from when I run it under gdb and hit the seg fault
[03:23] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: ok, well I don't know what it's failing for in order to attribute it correctly. So I'm going to try everywhere...
[03:25] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: try a programming channel.. otherwise, ubuntu works fine.. assuming you are using ubuntu, and its up to date, and funcitonal, the issue is with your application
[03:25] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, which app is this? You're building it under Ububtu?
[03:25] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: well using ubuntu on the old instance
[03:25] <SuperNoeMan> Wulframn: my own app. I wrote the source myself, but it uses several other libraries. I don't want to divulge source
[03:27] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: you dont want to "share the source" ?
[03:27] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, you previously built this under foo system and it worked, right?
[03:27] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: what libraries? are they installed and configured properly?
[03:27] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: not at the current time, I'm using this for my Master's thesis
[03:27] <SuperNoeMan> Wulframn: yes
[03:27] <SuperNoeMan> that's what I'm saying, I think it's the migration that's causing problems because my application compiles without a hitch
[03:28] <SuperNoeMan> in fact, compiling my application was the easiest part!
[03:28] <semitones> You know how when you connect to an ssh server for the first time, it says "this is it's host key, check if it's the right one?" -- Where is the host key located on the server? I want to write it down to make sure I know it's the right one.
[03:28] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, are you trying to build this under Ubuntu? Or are you migrating the finished product to Ubuntu?
[03:28] <trism> angela: don't know if this is helpful: https://www.exratione.com/2013/02/nodejs-and-forever-as-a-service-simple-upstart-and-init-scripts-for-ubuntu/ seems to have an upstart example using forever
[03:29] <SuperNoeMan> Wulframn: no, I'm migrating away from ubuntu
[03:29] <SuperNoeMan> but it's all linux,
[03:29] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, I'm on my phone so forgive me if I'm missing something... You're trying to build this...where?
[03:30] <Ben64> SuperNoeMan: does not seem like an ubuntu issue, check a programming channel or something for help
[03:30] <Wulframn> And yes and no, it's all...kind of Linux these days. =P
[03:30] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: sure, but this is not the "all linux" channel.. are you using ubuntu?
[03:30] <subcool> how do you deteremine what kinda video is an mkv file?
[03:31] <SuperNoeMan> well whatever it is that allows it to work on ubuntu can be put on the other distro
[03:31] <Ben64> subcool: mkv is a container, it can hold almost anything
[03:31] <SuperNoeMan> I'm using an ubuntu variant on my original, and Arch on the one I'm migrating to
[03:31] <SuperNoeMan> I'm just trying to find someone that can help me
[03:31] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, which distro are you trying to build this under?
[03:31] <Ben64> SuperNoeMan: again, ask a programming channel
[03:31] <SuperNoeMan> I've talked to the arch guys, they say they don't know
[03:32] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: then, seek support with that distro.. the spin off's like that can change things drastically
[03:32] <SuperNoeMan> Ben64: I'm asking in C++, they are almost never helpful and are extremely winey
[03:32] <Ben64> SuperNoeMan: that doesn't magically make it on topic here
[03:32] <SuperNoeMan> ok
[03:32] <SuperNoeMan> ok
[03:32] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: likely no one will know unless you want to find someone in particular and share *much* more information
[03:32] <SuperNoeMan> holstein: how much is *much*? because I'm not divulging source
[03:33] <angela> trism: a silly question, could the script not execute because I used /usr/bin/EXEC instead of the real path?
[03:33] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: whatever is needed..
[03:33] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, which distro are you trying to build this under?
[03:33] <SuperNoeMan> Wulframn: Arch
[03:34] <subcool> Ben64, is therea suggested player with most formats incorporated, VLC isnt doing it
[03:34] <SuperNoeMan> well I already gave a paste of the gdb output
[03:34] <trism> angela: not sure what you mean, what's the real path?
[03:34] <Ben64> subcool: if you use mplayer or mplayer2, it will tell you which codecs are used for audio and video
[03:34] <trism> angela: my first guess is some environment issue, the example in the link I gave sets a bunch of variables in the env
[03:34] <holstein> SuperNoeMan: try pasting that in a programming channel.. or install ubuntu and try it in ubuntu
[03:34] <subcool> k thanks. Ben64
[03:35] <angela> trism: I find /usr/bin/node point to /etc/alternatives/node, which point to /usr/bin/nodejs
[03:35] <angela> and then it ends there
[03:35] <trism> angela: oh I don't think that would be the issue
[03:35] <angela> although it's weird that the exec is actually in /usr/bin/
[03:35] <usr13> angela: If you are unsure whether the script is executable or not, look and see.  ls -l
[03:35] <angela> they are usually in their /etc/exec/ folder
[03:35] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, we'd love to help, but this isn't an Ubuntu issue. Further, all Arch can really do is help you make sure all needed libraries, compilers, etc are correctly installed and/or updated. Otherwise you need to take this to a programming channel, forum, Reddit, etc. They are probably going to need at least part of the source.
[03:35] <angela> usr13: yes it's all x
[03:36] <usr13> angela: Then that is not the problem.
[03:37] <Wulframn> SuperNoeMan, also try #linux (make sure you're registered). =)
[03:38] <SuperNoeMan> ok
[03:38] <subcool> Ben64, failed to recognize ifle format, thats the CLI VERSION
[03:38] <subcool> sorry. keyboard broken
[03:38] <holstein> subcool: so far, when vlc doesnt play it, its been an issue with the file
[03:39] <subcool> yeah, thats been my experience too
[03:39] <subcool> but i know i've played thismovie before
[03:39] <trism> angela: you should drop the redirect to /var/log/nginx to see if you get an error from forever in the upstart log
[03:39] <angela> trism: I tried start forever manually and it works
[03:39] <holstein> subcool: things happen to files..
[03:40] <trism> angela: no I mean to see the output from the upstart job, the env will be different so you may get different output
[03:40] <angela> oh okay
[03:43] <semitones> you know how when you connect to ssh, it says, "this server might not be what you think it is, check the host key?"
[03:43] <semitones> how do you check the host key?
[03:43] <holstein> semitones: you ask the host
[03:43] <semitones> i am the host
[03:44] <holstein> semitones: then, if you can trust it, you trust it
[03:44] <angela> trism: removed the pipe and log, still not seeing anything
[03:44] <angela> except this line node_shortener start/running, process 14246
[03:44] <semitones> i found some files in /etc/ssh, but they look longer than the rsa key i'm given
[03:44] <semitones> holstein, ^
[03:44] <holstein> semitones: some files? you mean, keys? the keys we are referencing?
[03:45] <semitones> I don't know. they are keys, but i don't know if they're the ones that the message references
[03:45] <holstein> semitones: confirm if they are or not
[03:45] <trism> angela: try adding to the script: expect fork
[03:45] <trism> angela: so it follows the nodejs process and not forever
[03:45] <holstein> semitones: when they change, you can get that message.. locally, if i change servers with the same address, i get a warning,and blow out the key
[03:46] <holstein> !ssh | semitones
[03:46] <holstein> semitones: man ssh
[03:46] <semitones> holstein, i'll look in my 'accepted keys' file and see if they match
[03:47] <holstein> semitones: also, they are your machines...
[03:47] <semitones> yes
[03:47] <deekattax> good evening. I'd like to ask a simple question: if I install a X program by simply uncompressing, is there a way to create a shortcut (or add it to programs list so that I can launch from unity)?
[03:47] <zanzacar> Can ssh accept ftp connections as well as sFTP connection? I was trying to find some info on this and I couldn't
[03:48] <holstein> deekattax: ultimately, yes
[03:48] <holstein> zanzacar: i have only done sftp
[03:49] <zanzacar> holstein: right so have I, I like sftp but for people unfamiliar with it its a pain.
[03:50] <holstein> zanzacar: its always a trade.. security for convinience...
[03:51] <zanzacar> right the need for FTP is only temporary so I figured I could enable and then disable it. But I guess if I can't then I can't.
[03:52] <marie_phare>  /join #ubuntu-studio
[03:53] <marie_phare> noob me...
[03:53] <angela> trism: the post you sent me, I'm not sure how to set the PIDFILE option https://www.exratione.com/2013/02/nodejs-and-forever-as-a-service-simple-upstart-and-init-scripts-for-ubuntu/
[03:54] <trism> angela: pidfile is for the sysv script, not the upstart one
[03:54] <trism> angela: upstart will keep track of the process on its own
[03:55] <angela> so I leave it empty?
[03:55] <pawan> hi
[03:55] <trism> angela: no I mean that you are looking at the wrong script, it is further up the page
[03:55] <pawan> disk check every time i boot ubuntu
[03:55] <pawan> how to get rid
[03:56] <trism> angela: its the one that starts with #!upstart (though that line isn't necessary)
[03:56] <angela> ah, thanks
[03:57] <trism> angela: it looks pretty much like yours but sets a few other options, and does forever stop in pre-stop instead of post-stop (so forever stops the process before upstart kills it I imagine)
[03:59] <angela> hooray, it worked!
[03:59] <trism> angela: excellent
[03:59] <angela> thanks trism
[03:59] <trism> angela: no prob
[04:03] <krz> anyone know a reliable ppa for tmux 1.8?
[04:04] <Ben64> subcool: pastebin the actual output
[04:13] <twenty-three> hi guys, due to a conflict with my nvidia drivers i find myself using a slightly older kernel, i was considering deleting the newer one according to these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106031/how-can-i-remove-new-kernel-versions-after-downgrading i just wonder if there is anything i should be aware of or maybe better ways to have it boot onto the kernel i want to boot
[04:19] <cknoll> i've been using ubuntu for a couple days, and i really like it, but my eyes are bleeding from the fonts or something visual... coming from windows
[04:20] <twenty-three> cknoll, have you tried to reduce the brightness?
[04:20] <cknoll> not yet, i just messed around with my monitor settings a bit, i will try that
[04:21] <cknoll> thanks
[04:23] <subcool> Ben64, too late, i deleted it- thanks though!
[04:23] <Robert__> Is this a place for general Ubuntu Qs?
[04:23] <Ben64> Robert__: support questions, yes
[04:23] <holstein> Robert__: you can always check the /topic
[04:25] <Robert__> My problem is easy to explain and impossible(for me) to deal with alone. Ubuntu will not install on my W8 PC. I have an empty, formatted drive for it, and I put the IOS on a flash and tell the PC to boot to this flash, PC sits and does nothing for a minute then shuts down entirely. Same with a DVD.
[04:25] <Robert__> SO I can't even get to the install screen. I ahve used Ubuntu befor eon a second HDD but not on this PC.
[04:25] <Robert__> sorry for sloppy typing, new keyboard, trying to adapt :P sucks balls
[04:26] <xmetal> check the boot order in the bios?
[04:27] <TJ-> Robert__: If it is Windows 8 (W8?) then is it using UEFI secure boot? If so, you may need to enter the UEFI BIOS setup and disable it
[04:27] <Robert__> yeha i can get to ti attempt to boot from the USB/DVD no problem. It's after that is the issue. It just hangs then shuts down.
[04:27] <Robert__> Yes it's Windows 8.
[04:28] <Robert__> UEFI is a new term to me, how can I do this?
[04:28] <Robert__> I am familiar with BIOS in general
[04:28] <holstein> !uefi
[04:29] <Robert__> Thank you! :)
[04:29] <Robert__> Ugh did i just thank a bot?
[04:29] <TJ-> Robert__: Secure Boot is what you need to be looking up. Microsoft made it a requirement for any PC carrying the "Made for Windows 8" branding
[04:30] <Robert__> Well ti has that for sure I think, it's a Gateway and came with Win8 installed
[04:30]  * xmetal raises and shakes fist in the air at MS
[04:31] <TJ-> Robert__: Some distros - Red Hat and Ubuntu - have their signing keys signed by Microsofts, so in theory the recent releases should boot on Secure Boot, but may not :)
[04:31] <Robert__> Well Ubuntu didn't boot, but I can't say for sure that this is why.
[04:32] <icelite> what Irc client does Linux distros have ?
[04:32] <Robert__> Is there a possibility that some hardware in my PC just isn't going to let me boot Linux?
[04:32] <holstein> icelite: access to many... different distros have different ones by default
[04:32] <icelite> ok
[04:32] <icelite> which one is the best?
[04:32] <TJ-> Robert__: Yeah, you need to pin it down. Do you see anything on the screen before it powers down? Have you tried holding down Shift as the PC boots to enter the GRUB bootloader menu?
[04:32] <holstein> icelite: "best" is a matter of opinion. xchat is a popular gui one.. irssi a popular command line one
[04:33] <icelite> ok
[04:33] <holstein> !info xchat
[04:33] <Robert__> I have not tried that, no. I can try that now what should I do if that works and I see a GRUB menu
[04:33] <thinclient> I'm looking for a minimalist (preferably console only) live cd of hardy heron.  I need the kernel 2.6.27 or older because it supports my "via" chipset.
[04:33] <holstein> !8.04
[04:33] <TJ-> !oldreleases
[04:34] <TJ-> thinclient: see http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[04:34] <thinclient> ubottu:  Yes i already have the official desktop version of hardy heron, but i'm looking for a "console only" live cd. No X.
[04:35] <TJ-> thinclient: There never has been a 'liveCD' of the console. You can use the Alternate CD image, or the minimal/netboot
[04:35] <holstein> thinclient: hardy is EOL.. if you seach around you can find it, but its not supported anymore. i use 12.04 on my via hardware
[04:37] <thinclient> TJ:  OK..i'll try the alternate CD hope it detects my wifi only pc and boots from usb.
[04:37] <xmetal> hmm is everyone in here getting the invites? or is just me?
[04:37] <TJ-> xmetal: Not just you
[04:37] <holstein> thinclient: why? the desktop should boot fine.. did for me
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, If your spammed in PM show it to #freenode
[04:38] <TJ-> xmetal: Seems like there's a silent script-bot that spots any mention of that Redmond company or its products, and causes another client to send the invite
[04:38] <ubulost> does anyone know the exact specific command to give a folder and is subs and files permissions for all users?
[04:38] <xmetal> no .. not spammed yet ... only two a few minutes apart
[04:38] <xmetal> ah ... that company
[04:39] <xmetal> :P
[04:39] <TJ-> I got "You have been invited to ##ComputerTalk101 by JRobo (wolfe.freenode.net)"
[04:39] <xmetal> yes thats it
[04:39] <thinclient> holstein i need the alternate cd image to boot from usb flash because this thinclient has no hard drive
[04:40] <thinclient> I need to copy the iso to usb first and make it install to the same usb it boots from
[04:40] <Prock81> under the brightness and lock section, the brightness is stuck on max, the slider moved but had no affect, and my hardware buttons have no affect, BUT if i reboot, while im on anything bios related, example password entry screen, my hardware buttons for brightness work, What can i do?, oh and while on bios i turn it all the way down, and os brings it back up
[04:40] <TJ-> ubulost: "chmod -R a+rwx $DIRECTORY"
[04:41] <TJ-> Prock81: What video graphics adapter is it?
[04:41] <Prock81> how do i tell? TJ-
[04:41] <TJ-> Prock81: If it's nvidia, I think you'll need nvidiabl
[04:41] <ubulost> TJ: do I type the $?  as in $/etc/samba/folder?
[04:41] <TJ-> Prock81: "lspci -nn | grep VGS"
[04:42] <Prock81> it used to work, stoped a while back
[04:42] <TJ-> ubulost: You replace $DIRECTORY with the base directory you want the command to start working at
[04:42] <Prock81> that command returns nothing
[04:43] <xmetal> back :) .. was trying something in hexchat (xchat clone) and i didn't know if i'd be spamming to all channels
[04:43] <xmetal> so i left
[04:43] <TJ-> Prock81: hmm, the name string doesn't have VGA? OK "lspci -nn" and look for a line that suggests its a video adapter!
[04:43] <ubulost> TJ: thanks
[04:43] <Prock81> oh u put VGS
[04:44] <TJ-> Prock81: doh! It's 05:43 and I haven't been to bed yet!
[04:44] <Prock81> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF119M [NVS 4200M] [10de:1056] (rev a1)
[04:45] <TJ-> Prock81: OK, yes, Nvidia. Same as me. You'll need nvidiabl which isn't in the unbuntu archives ... yet. I added some patches to it a while back, and it works well. You can find it at https://github.com/guillaumezin/nvidiabl
[04:45] <semitones> I'm trying to get fail2ban working, but when I check it's status in init.d, it says failed. Is there a way to see why?
[04:46] <somsip> semitones: take a look in /var/log/fail2ban.log
[04:46] <Prock81> but my brightness used to work, what made it stop
[04:46] <Prock81> brightness controlls
[04:46] <semitones> somsip, hmm arccording to that I don't see any errors. maybe it is working, and init.d is just wrong
[04:47]  * xmetal something tells me its not polite to ask "so ... your not that bright?" ... but i'[d think it'd be so funny
[04:47] <xmetal> :P
[04:47] <somsip> semitones: is it running if you ps aux | grep fail2ban
[04:47] <semitones> somsip, on the other hand, the latest activity was 10 min ago
[04:48] <TJ-> Prock81: Probably you were using the Nouveau driver and now are using nvidia proprietary?
[04:48] <Prock81> dont know
[04:48] <semitones> somsip, yes, it's got one user proc and one root proc :)
[04:48] <Robert__> well, no luck
[04:48] <Prock81> which one is better, or at least has 3d support
[04:49] <somsip> semitones: can you trigger it to see if it blocks ok? Not sure about why init.d shows as it does
[04:49] <semitones> somsip, i'm at home now, so can't trigger it. tomorrow i'll try
[04:49] <Robert__> Wondering if Ubuntu is worth all this hasstle
[04:50] <xmetal> next time i get a chance i should download the new ubuntu iso and load it in vmware
[04:50] <TJ-> Early tonight Linuxfreak78 was asking if there's a way to disable touchscreen input on the Unity greeter, to prevent false input. I sat down and created a custom-event package that makes adding all manner of custom event scripts for display, greeter, session, and cleanup really easy. If you want to try it you can find it here: https://iam.tj/projects/lightdm-custom-events/
[04:51] <Prock81> TJ- would u be the guy to mention the idea/feature to add to the launcher
[04:51] <TJ-> Prock81: nope! I only did this as an exercise because it sounded useful!
[04:52] <xmetal> i copied and saved that url .. .will take a look, even though Unity is not my "DE of choice"
[04:52] <Prock81> oh and by the way my launcher is messing up again
[04:52] <xmetal> i do try it sometimes
[04:53] <TJ-> xmetal: I did it for the fun. Learned how to find the xinput devices and events and control them. I had my glidepad disabled whilst the greeter was on-screen and re-enabled when I log in. Kinda cute, for a touchscreen device
[04:58] <Prock81> TJ- , anyone, my launcher used to scroll down and become all black excetp for 3 icons put up at the top, and when i bring the mouse to hte top it also scrolls down. i was told to delete configs, and that worked, now it works down and up except for the last icon on the top, the Dash, i have to drag down to that icon. and when my mouse is over the dash icon up at the top it scrolls down only one icon hiding the dash.
[04:59] <TJ-> Prock81: !!! no idea, only problem I've had with it was at one time it wouldn't pop-out when set to auto-hide, no matter how 'hard' the mouse was banged against the screen edge
[04:59] <Prock81> ive had that too, but i didnt like auto hide, was just tring it out
[05:00] <Prock81> anyway to get teh unity tweak tool that 13.04 has, im on 12.04
[05:01] <Prock81> get the*
[05:02] <shafox> Hey, While installing the Airtel Mobile Broadband Software from the device which is a dongle , I am getting this error can some one tell me what is QGtkStyle and Testability plugin ?? here is the complete gist of the output while running the install file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5983682/
[05:02] <xangua> Prock81: use the ubuntu tweak ppa
[05:03] <Prock81> i thought i saw one but it was noting like what i expected, not the least little bit
[05:03] <Prock81> just made my icond roundish and no config tool, and added some 2d somethings binarys
[05:04] <TJ-> shafox: From that, it tells me whoever put that package together messed up and left in absolute path references to their development system
[05:04] <Prock81> xangua so what is that ppa
[05:05] <n-iCe> how do I cancel a terminal action, like wget or ping to exit complety, and to be stopped and not shown in ps
[05:05] <shafox> TJ-: can I post the content of that install.sh file so that you guyz can take a look
[05:05] <TJ-> shafox: You'd best ask the Airtel people, it's their mess!
[05:06] <shafox> TJ-: I asked the customer care and tech support have no idea what to do . And it runs fine with Windows and Mac not in any flavored of *nix
[05:08] <shafox> TJ-: this is the install.sh http://paste.ubuntu.com/5983740/
[05:08] <TJ-> shafox: Stuff I'm reading suggests you don't *need* the airtel driver. Check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138253/how-to-connect-to-the-internet-using-an-airtel-3g-usb-dongle
[05:10] <shafox> TJ-: it connects fine but cant surf with this. it just shows that connection has established, but when i try to ping something lets say ping 8.8.8.8 it returns unreachable
[05:11] <Prock81> TJ- would u be good at modifying and converting a grub menu to grub2 menu?
[05:11] <TJ-> shafox: You may need to alter the connection properties then. I'm afraid I can't help you on that. There seem to be a lot of articles via Google search on configuring that for Ubuntu without using the AirTel dashboard software
[05:11] <TJ-> Prock81: Grub2 will upgrade a Grub1 menu configuration
[05:12] <l0p3n> Hello! I have changed my password. The problem is that I can only access my encrypted home folder using my old password. Does anyone know how to update ecryptfs to use the new password?
[05:12] <Prock81> ya, but they never show
[05:12] <TJ-> Time for my breakfast, and take the Husky for a run around the stubble fields :)
[05:12] <shafox> TJ-: thanks though
[05:14] <TJ-> l0p3n: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/38681/set-encrypted-home-passphrase
[05:14] <xangua> Prock81: https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[05:15] <l0p3n> Thanks TJ- I'll try that
[05:19] <Prock81> TJ- , anyone?,  i have grub4dos on a usbstick with ntfs partition and a .VHD  file 2Gig (virtual box hard drive image, originally set up in virtualbox) with windows xp on it. If i boot off the usb stick, i successfully run XP from the usb by mounting the VHD or i can copy it to ram, all is successfully working, no BSOD's. NOW i want to add those grub menu items from the usb stick to my ubuntu grub2, But i want to mount the VHD from my ex
[05:19] <Prock81> thanks xangua, but i cant restart at the moment
[05:22] <daniel_mum> quit
[05:22] <reisio> Prock81: from your ex?
[05:23] <Prock81> ex?
[05:23] <reisio> your msg was cut off
[05:23] <Prock81> ill do a paste bin with the grub menu
[05:23] <Prock81> and hte question
[05:24] <reisio> you should only have to tell your internal install's GRUB where your USB stick is
[05:24] <reisio> unfortunately that can change at random times, so to do it reliably you'd have to make a udev rule to give your USB stick a persistent name
[05:30] <Prock81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5983794/  reisio
[05:31] <reisio> already said all I can up there ^, I'm afraid :)
[05:31] <Prock81> what u say
[05:32] <Prock81> im not leaving the usb stick in, and i want to get hte image from my home dir ext4 partition
[05:33] <maheanuu> IaOrana everyone,  I am at present running Ubuntu 12.02.2  on 2 Toshiba Satellite Laptops,  one an older one which runs Ubuntu very well and a new S875-S7356 which is not up to par on the WiFi  and the recognition of the hardware inside the box.   I was wondering if 13.04 might be better for this new machine.   Anyone here have any ideas.  And None of my machines are running Windoze
[05:34] <maheanuu> That should have been 12.04.2
[05:35] <dr_willis> id try 13.04
[05:36] <maheanuu> 12.04 does not recognize the WiFi Card so I am left to use Cat 5 to connect to my router
[05:36] <dr_willis> i tend to always use the latest releases
[05:37] <dr_willis> you may want to test the 13.10 live cd also
[05:39] <xmetal> i am on another OS regularly and had boot issues with the brand new version ... upgrade the kernal via package manager and it solved thouse issues
[05:39] <maheanuu> dr_willis, thank you for your help,  I will download them both and try them...  I sure am not having any luck with 12.04 so far
[05:45] <Prock81> i need help so bad i made a post on 4chan, wonder how that will work out lol
[05:46] <Prock81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5983794/
[05:47] <Prock81> grub related question^
[05:47] <malkauns> how do i disable the annoying 2 finger tap in 13.04??
[05:47] <malkauns> sorry 3 finger tap
[05:48] <Prock81> i wonder how can three finger tap be annoying, i can see one, but 3?
[05:48] <dr_willis> fat fingers :-)
[05:49] <dr_willis> one tap gets read as 2+
[05:49] <malkauns> for me, accidentally touching the touchpad with 3 fingers brings up the app switcher
[05:49] <malkauns> my macbook pro touchpad is ultra sensitive
[05:52] <Prock81> dr_willis r u sure its his fingers he is using lol
[05:53] <Prock81> 3 fingers as one, naw thats a fat finger lmao
[05:53] <Neozonz> can someone help me get my usb wireless adapter working on ubuntu? it's a  ASUS AC53 Wireless USB Adapter
[05:55] <malkauns> ok, synclient TapButton3=2 seems to work nicely
[05:55] <Prock81>  Neozonz u could start with lsusb
[05:55] <dr_willis> Neozonz: determine  its  chipset
[05:55] <Neozonz> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0b05:17c9 ASUSTek Computer, Inc.
[05:55] <xmetal> lol @ fat fingers comments
[05:56] <Prock81>  xmetal i wonder if his girl can take all 4 fingers lol
[05:57] <Prock81> thats like 12 fingers aaaahhhhhh
[05:58] <sahil> hello people
[05:58] <sahil> i am having problem ruinning celestia..it hangs after it launches....
[05:59] <dr_willis> run it from terminal  look  for error  messages  sahil
[05:59] <Prock81> sahil run it from a terminal and see if u get any clues as to why it hangs
[05:59] <sahil> i did...everything seems fine...
[06:00] <Neozonz> dr_willis, its a broadcom
 is it possible to launch it with "default " settings?? i guess i might have changed some settings...
[06:02]  * xmetal is not "going there 
[06:02] <xmetal> "
http://pastebin.com/X9z5bfeu
[06:03] <Prock81> sahil see if celestia has a config and backup/remove it and see what that does
[06:04] <Mace268> Is there a way I can delay execution of a set of commands in rc.local so they won't execute until the network is ready? I'm trying to auto mount samba shares.
[06:04] <Prock81> xmetal althow i notice u left the word not out of the quote, so you "going there" lol
 in .config folder in /home there is no celestia folder....i suppose the config files are stored here if i am not mistaking
[06:05] <nevyn> Mace268: put them in fstab and have the system just deal.
[06:06] <nevyn> Mace268: mounting remote filesystems is already after network init
[06:06] <Mace268> ok so taking out noauto from fstab and removing the mount commands from rc.local should work?
[06:07] <Prock81> /home/username/.config/celestia , set to show hidden files, Ctrl+H
[06:07] <Prock81> sahil^
[06:08] <Okitain> Hi guys!
 i did serched there sorry i stated wrong path before :)
[06:08] <Okitain> Is anyone acquainted with hybrid AMD graphics cards?
[06:09] <Prock81> sahil, from your link i wonder if its a momory or rendering problem
[06:10] <Prock81> try running htop (my choice, there are others) to watch the process
[06:10] <sahil> 4gb ddr3 /nvdia 630gt/amd phenom x2... i dont think it needs more..?
[06:10] <Prock81> and watch your momory usage, and total system memory usage
[06:11] <Prock81> hum, i wouldnt think it would need more ither with those stats
 in processes it is not having any cpu usages...and a modest ram usages...the problem is the mouse pointer remains like crosshair all the time...
[06:13] <sahil> even in menu bar
[06:13] <sahil> launching is preety swift though
[06:15] <Prock81> sahil, my comment on that would be, when i run a program with out loading a gui, i get a crosshair for my mouse, like 'exec xinit vlc' to turn my pc into a dvd player for someone to borrow
[06:17] <Dailee3> hello
[06:17] <Prock81> so i wonder if its not communicating properly with your gui or xorg related somehow, even the least bit
[06:18] <Prock81> sahil or something in that area, or wigit
[06:19] <sahil> nothing...
[06:19] <__machine> a client has asked for "screenshot" proof that we have actually installed security a number of specific security updates (named in a security scan of our system that they performed)... how can i list the installed security updates in ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[06:19] <Prock81> just gussing on that
 reinsatlling via synaptic loads default config?
[06:20] <Okitain> _machine, can't you just use  /var/log/dpkg.log?
[06:21] <Prock81> i would purge it first
[06:21] <Prock81>  __machine i know if you use aptitude search package-name , it will have an 'i' to the left stating its installed
[06:22] <__machine> Okitain: something that lists the actual USN numbers would be useful... so i can show this USN is installed and link to the USN online so they can confirm that it fixes the CVE issue they reported... e.g. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1924-2/
[06:23] <__machine> Prock81: how can i search for an ubuntu security notice? just showing that "apache" is installed for example isnt much help... ?
[06:23] <TvL2386> hi guys, when using VPN, I notice that some queries go through my default nameserver and other queries go through VPN. I know this is due to the VPN configuration, but where can I check the rules/configuration on the filesystem?
[06:23] <Okitain> __machine: what method have you used for installation?
[06:23] <Okitain> (apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, other?)
[06:24] <__machine> Okitain: when i login and it says there are security updates available to install i do... sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude upgrade ...
[06:24] <Prock81> __machine: use terminal and do 'aptitude search apache' and see what u get, havent looked at link yet
[06:25] <Prock81>  __machine sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[06:26] <Prock81> that will get updates
[06:26] <wangwt> help
[06:26] <dr_willis> !ask
[06:27] <__machine> Prock81: that will install them... i already have them installed... i just want to prove that i have individual USN or CVE updates installed
[06:27] <__machine> aptitude search apache doesnt help... tells me i have apache installed but does not tell me any particular USN was installed that fixes any particular CVE issue
[06:27] <wangwt> q
[06:28] <suore> Hej
[06:28] <reisio> hej
[06:30] <suore> Wie ktoś dlaczego w kontroli głośności Ubuntu przestawia mi się z Analogowy Dupleks Stereo na Wejście Analogowe Stereo + Wejście Cyfrowe Stereo (IEC958)????
[06:30] <Prock81>  __machine u get my im
[06:30] <suore> Jak zrobić by się nie przestawiało...
foud celestia's config file in .gconf/app
[06:30] <dr_willis> suore:  whats your native language?
[06:30] <sahil> will deleting the directory do any good?
[06:31] <suore> aaaa sorry..... xD now
[06:31] <suore> i can see than im not at corrrect channel lulz
[06:31] <Okitain> __machine: try launching aptitude in interactive mode.
[06:31] <Prock81> sahil then exit the app, backup that config and remove it, an run the app again
[06:32] <sahil> hmm doing ASAP
[06:32] <Okitain> then search for apache, and press C
[06:32] <Okitain> That brings up the changelog.
[06:33] <Prock81> __machine: v   firefox-ubufox ... p   ubufox  ... i A xul-ext-ubufox ... the p means its not installed, the 'i' means its installed, the v is a package that refrences to other packages
[06:34] <Prock81> __machine sudo aptitude search ubufox unity-firefox-extension
[06:34] <suore> Anyone know why my Ubuntu at pavuceonrol changing/auto swith  from Analog Stereo Duplex to Analog Stereo Output + Digital Input Stereo (IEC395)???.
[06:34] <suore> after eveery reboot
[06:36] <ghayoor> i have Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 graphic card in my laptop with Ubuntu 13.04 OS, Google earth is not performing well on this card what to do
[06:36] <dr_willis> your user can have their own specific pulse audio config setting files suore . IF those files somehow got owned by root. then they wouldent get written/change..  so the origignal settings come back
[06:36] <dr_willis> suore:  ive seen this qwith other confifg files.. so i imagine it can happen with pulse audio settings.. test by making a new user.  and see if the settings get reset for them also
[06:37] <__machine> Prock81: how does that help me? i need to prove for example that http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1765-1/ has bee installed, and therefore http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-3499.html and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-4558.html are fixed...
[06:37] <ghayoor> i have Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 graphic card in my laptop with Ubuntu 13.04 OS, Google earth is not performing well on this card what to do
[06:37] <suore> dr_willis, where pulse have config? i delete all config files, maybe it help
[06:38] <dr_willis> suore:  no idea really. some where in your home. thats why i suggest the new user test.
[06:38] <ghayoor> any body plz help
[06:38] <ghayoor> i have Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 graphic card in my laptop with Ubuntu 13.04 OS, Google earth is not performing well on this card what to do
[06:39] <dr_willis> ghayoor:  not a lot to do to help. the drivers are included.. and thats not much of a card.. and flooding the question over and over.. tends to get you ignored
[06:39] <dr_willis> intel has some tool to install newer drivers. but i doubt if they would help much - how old i s that video card?
[06:39] <dr_willis> try running a lighter desktop like Lubuntu and see if it works better. Might help.
[06:40] <Prock81> what version of ubuntu are u using
[06:40] <Prock81> __machine
[06:42] <Prock81> ill do as the links say to better help you, aslo wouldnt mind fixing an XSS vulnerability any way
[06:42] <xmetal> i do have to say that I may not need Lubuntu though i lide it
[06:42] <xmetal> er like it
[06:43] <Prock81> xmetal ... 12 fingers lamo
[06:43] <dr_willis> been using lubuntu for the last few weeks. its missing a few things.. but over all. works well
[06:43] <xmetal> :P
[06:43] <xmetal> i switch between DE (except for Unity)
[06:43] <Prock81> all 4 fingers = 12 lol
[06:43] <xmetal> w/e i feel like at the time
[06:44] <sahil> i wonder..getting no clue....although right corner shows celestia is "traveling" though its not... :
[06:44] <Okitain> __machine: again, look at the changelog using aptitude's interactive mode.
[06:46] <__machine> Okitain: im not familiar with aptitude interactive mode... i did try to view "installed packages" in there but there doesnt seem to be a security section or changelog section?
[06:47] <Okitain> Changelog is only viewed for each specific package.
[06:47] <frostero> can someone assist with mounting a windows shared folder in 12.04?
[06:47] <Okitain> You can press capital C to show it.
[06:48] <Okitain> frostero: sure. What version of windows is it mounted from?
[06:48] <__machine> Okitain: great... in there i can see security updates applied and CVE references... now i just need to find each affected package... can i search the changelogs somehow?
[06:49] <frostero> Okitain: Windows 7, I have mounted shares before from win7 but have never had this much trouble
[06:50] <frostero> same user/passwd for both the win7 machine and the ubuntu machine
[06:50] <frostero> mount dir created w/perms
[06:50] <dr_willis> frostero:  you did set the users samba password?   sudo smbpasswd username
[06:51] <frostero> i did
[06:51] <dr_willis> but i dont think that would affect accessing a windows shaer.. but the other wya around. windows accessing a linux share. ;)
[06:51] <frostero> yes
[06:52] <dr_willis> tried accessing it via the ip# not the server name?   ;)   how are you trying to mount the share exactly?
[06:52] <frostero> mount -t //ip/share /path/to/mnt/point -o username
[06:53] <frostero> er
[06:53] <frostero> mount -t cifs //ip/share /path/to/mnt/point -o username
[06:53] <frostero> mount.cifs //ip/share /path/to/mnt/point -o username
[06:53] <Okitain> __machine: I'm afraid not, but you should know the names of the packages from the CVEs, and use the aptitude changelog <packagename> to see the changes in the individual package.
[06:54] <frostero> have had error codes 13/22/115
[06:54] <frostero> just have 13 now
[06:56] <dr_willis> perhaps just make a totally open guest share. and see if you can access that first>
[06:56] <dr_willis> trying to think of other 'tests' to try. ;) you have disabled tghe windows firewall as a test?
[06:57] <frostero> o crap
[06:57] <frostero> my secondary firewall could be causing the issue
[06:58] <dr_willis> holy redundant firewalls batman!
[06:58] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:59] <frostero> not my firewalls
[06:59] <Coburn> remember kids, one protection isn't enough, better use two!
[06:59] <Samul> Hi, I had a problem with Ubuntu and now I must format my HDD. I'd like to recovery my files, but from LiveCD it says that I don't have permissions to view those files
[06:59] <Samul> how can I do?
celestia (GLUT) is working fine..but celestia Gnome isnt..
[07:00] <dr_willis> Samul:  access them as root with sudo rights
[07:00] <Samul> dr_willis: sudo nautilus?
[07:01] <dr_willis> Samul:  hope you dont have an encrypted home ;)
[07:01] <darkelfjuggalo> I am having issues with several of my programs in Ubuntu 13.04 [GNOME DE] In the terminal, how can I generate a complete list of Packages?
[07:01] <Samul> no
[07:01] <dr_willis> Samul:  yes. with whatever file manager, or cli tools you want
[07:01] <auronandace> !gksudo | Samul
[07:01] <dr_willis> !clone | darkelfjuggalo
do you have any idea? celestia Gnome isnt working,hangs after start up but celestia(glut) is working fine...
[07:02] <Samul> yeah! it works with sudo nautilus!
[07:02] <Samul> thank you very very much
[07:02] <dr_willis> sahil:  not really. sounds like some 3d drivers quirk/bug/issues
[07:03] <lataku> ho ho ho, does anyone know wich kernel will be shipped with 13.10?
[07:04] <Prock81> !paste
[07:04] <suore> I created new user, but i cannot login to him
launching via terminal  isnt showing any info either.....glitch in what btw?? coz the celestia(glut) is workig fine,even celestia gnome launches well fast then hangs after 4 seconds... the mouse pointer remains croshair even in menubar thus i have to kill the app
[07:05] <suore> I got autologout after enter password, and hint enter
[07:05] <sahil> i got propietory drivers installed
[07:06] <dr_willis> lataku:  theres some release schedule and the #ubuntu+1 channel
[07:06] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:06] <dr_willis> doe 13,10
[07:06] <dr_willis> for 13.10
[07:06] <Prock81> http://imagebin.org/267518  would something like that help  __machine
[07:06] <dr_willis> suore:  you mean to say you get put back to the Lightdm Login screen?
[07:07] <suore> yes
[07:07] <suore> dr_willis, yes
[07:07] <dr_willis> has this user ever logged in suore ?
[07:07] <__machine> Prock81: i figured it out... at the bottom of the USN it lists the version number of the package where the referenced CVE issues are fixed... i just need to confirm the installed package version is equal or higher to show that the issue is patched...
[07:07] <suore> dr_willis, no
[07:07] <suore> its new one
[07:07] <dr_willis> suore:  can they login to the console?
[07:07] <suore> i try
[07:08] <suore> yes
[07:08] <suore> i can
[07:08] <suore> i logged now
[07:08] <Prock81> __machine is 2.7 the current, look at my pic
[07:08] <wtfasix> Hello, what's the best DHCP server around?
[07:09] <suore> dr_willis, http://pastebin.com/1ij2fyjJ yes
[07:09] <wtfasix> isc? dhcp3?
[07:09] <ikonia> wtfasix: the default supplied by ubuntu is fine, which is isc
[07:09] <wtfasix> I'm looking for the strongest, the best, we're going to try and run linux to manage our network
[07:09] <suore> dr_willis, delete new user, remove home dir, and create new one again?
[07:10] <Prock81> __machine  in the top right corner of my pic
[07:10] <Prock81> i must goto bed now
[07:10] <wtfasix> And, as most of you probably can imagine, I've to convince a lot of people so I just would like to use the strongest DHCP server possible so these people will be convinced too
[07:10] <dr_willis> suore:  just make a 3rd user. ;)
[07:10] <SynthMobile_> If the live cd works does that mean the system can run it?
[07:10] <suore> dr_willis, so this  i can purge? :P
[07:10] <dr_willis> suore:  i wouldent worry about it untill you get other users working
[07:11] <chalcedony> is it possible to get a virus? in ubuntu 12.04 that keeps opening processes in root until it's extremely slow?
[07:11] <ikonia> wtfasix: "strongest" what are you talking about, it's a dhcp server
[07:11] <ikonia> wtfasix: the isc bind is pretty much the standard
[07:12] <ikonia> isc dhcp sorry
[07:12] <frostero> status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[07:12] <chalcedony> it still won't let me change back to the terminal from pastebin, to paste an example
[07:13] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  doubtfullif its a virus.. could be some bug in a legit program.
[07:13] <SynthMobile_> If I can run the live cd does that mean my system can handle it?
[07:13] <chalcedony> hi dr_willis *hugs*
[07:13] <ikonia> SynthMobile_: not really, but it can be used as a good guide
[07:13] <chalcedony> top just shows these endless processes, i can't tell you what they say
[07:14] <ikonia> SynthMobile_: meeeting the minimum spec on the website is what shows if your machine is capabe, although a livecd is a good basic test
[07:14] <wtfasix> ikonia: well, just as there are two packages, there are differences. I'd like to use the most stable one with highest reliability rate. Could you please describe me some differences? I'm looking it through myself too although this net should be up by this afternoon (which is not your problem, and its not just about dhcp, that'd be easy)
[07:14] <chalcedony> dr_willis, i'm on my laptop - husband's computer has the problem
[07:14] <SynthMobile_> I get an error on the live cd lol
[07:14] <ikonia> wtfasix: just use isc
[07:14] <ikonia> wtfasix: if you have no basic understanding of them, you are not the person to convince others to use it
[07:14] <SynthMobile_> This system is prettynold but the hard drive is way older do you think that could cause problems?
[07:14] <darkelfjuggalo> bash: !clone: event not found
[07:15] <suore> Okay
[07:15] <suore> new user works
[07:15] <suore> but at new user
[07:15] <SynthMobile_> Hard drive is about roughly 10 years old lol
[07:15] <dr_willis> darkelfjuggalo:  !stuff are bot commands in the irc chennel..
[07:15] <suore> also changil Duplex to SPIF/D
[07:15] <suore> idk why
[07:15] <dr_willis> darkelfjuggalo:  in bash its part of the histoy feature
[07:15] <SynthMobile_> Its an old 8GB samsung, yes I typed that correctly, 8GB
[07:15] <dr_willis> !bot
[07:15] <wtfasix> ikonia, hehe well I am, since I did read tanenbaums operating systems and recoded minix. although a decade ago I do have basic understanding, just short time to make it happen and get back at. thanks alot for helping! I'll use isc. Probably won't make a silly difference in this small net
[07:15] <dr_willis> !clone | darkelfjuggalo
[07:16] <darkelfjuggalo> dr_willis, someone !clone me and i didn't recieve any bot message
[07:16] <dr_willis> the bot seems lagged
[07:16] <ikonia> wtfasix: I assure you, you will have zero problems with ISC bind, it's pretty much the industry standard
[07:16] <dr_willis>   try /msg ubottu   factoidtoread
[07:16] <wtfasix> ikonia, thanks, for dns repeating would you use bind too?
[07:16] <chalcedony> dr_willis, i'm asking him to boot it to a live cd, i can't do anything with it the way it is, but what then?
[07:17] <SynthMobile_> Dr_willis do yo remember me? The one with the display drivers problem
[07:17] <wtfasix> *feels kind of awkward trying to lift by others their up to date experience trying to prevent taking too much time reading up posix/linux again*
[07:17] <ikonia> wtfasix: the rest of the world does, who am I to argue
[07:17] <SynthMobile_> On the laptop
[07:18] <darkelfjuggalo> I am not getting anywhere
[07:18] <wtfasix> ikonia: haha, thanks alot! have a very nice day!
[07:19] <dr_willis> SynthMobile_:  that descriibes perhaps 40% of  the problems that are in this channel daily
[07:19] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  if some process is spawning over and over till the pc crashes. you need to determine what the process is.. and why its doing that.
[07:19] <SynthMobile_> Wellll, yes in my case, its most likely a hardware problem..
[07:19] <reisio> maybe even 40.5%
[07:20] <chalcedony> dr_willis, um how? - maybe close firefox and see if it will let me into the bash prompt?
[07:20] <Samul> I'm from Live CD and I opened sudo nautilus. I tried to delete some files, but trash is empty. Where are those files?
[07:21] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  ssh in and run htop perhaps.
[07:21] <darkelfjuggalo> Since the Bot is not working right now, can someone give me the direct command to generate a log of all installed packages on my device
[07:21] <chalcedony> dr_willis, let me see if it will let me, its incredibly slow!
[07:23] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  its slow from the live cd?
[07:23] <dr_willis> !brain
[07:23] <dr_willis> wonder why the bot dosent have the !clone factoid any more
[07:23] <dr_willis> !clone
[07:23] <Samul> I'm from Live CD and I opened sudo nautilus. I tried to delete some files, but trash is empty. Where are those files?
[07:23] <chalcedony> dr_willis, its still real, not live cd. i don't know his ip, unless i can do ifconfig.
[07:24] <dr_willis> Samul:  it might have deleted them permently  not moved to trash. or they may be in the .trash* directory on the root of the drive
[07:24] <matjam> #xubuntu
[07:24] <Samul> dr_willis: I'm going to see if they have been removed
[07:24] <dr_willis> chalcedony:  theres also the text, or recovery mode thagt may get you to a console. where you can trouble shoot
[07:25] <chalcedony> dr_willis, let's try that
[07:25] <Samul> they are in .trash-0
[07:25] <Samul> how can I delete?
[07:26] <dr_willis> Samul:  use the command line perhaps?
[07:26] <Samul> ^_^"
[07:26] <dr_willis> or shift-delete
[07:26] <dr_willis> if you delete the trash directory.. where does it go.... ;0
[07:26] <dr_willis> How 'zen''
[07:27] <Samul> thanks
[07:29] <darkelfjuggalo> i have looked up cloning and none of the methods appear to serve the purpose I am wanting
[07:30] <dr_willis> theres an aptitude command to gerenate a list of installed packages.. isent that what you were wanting?
[07:30] <darkelfjuggalo> I was thinking apt-cache, but none of the commands appear to be broad enough for what i want
[07:31] <darkelfjuggalo> clone is an aptitude command?
[07:32] <dr_willis> theres a feature of aptitude to GENERATE a list of installed files. you can then pipe back into aptitude on a differnt system to instgall the same set of packages
[07:33] <reisio> used to be a bot factoid, !clone
[07:34] <dr_willis> bot dosent even reply to that factoid any more..
[07:34] <darkelfjuggalo> ok let me find the command, Generating the list is all I want at this step... from thereI I will have to work on what I need and don't need and how to fix what I need that doesn't appear to work properly
[07:34] <reisio> dr_willis: ...hence 'used'
[07:34] <dr_willis> bot dosent even say it dosent exist. ;)
[07:34] <reisio> !asfdasdfsfad
[07:34] <reisio> !clone
[07:34] <reisio> that's odd
[07:34] <dr_willis> unless the bot has also had that feature turned off.
[07:34] <reisio> nope
[07:34] <reisio> just gave it to me for asdfasdffads
[07:35] <reisio> 2012 Jun 23 22:42:26 <ubottu>	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate
[07:35] <dr_willis> perhaps its not the real ubottu ! )
[07:35] <reisio> logs > brokenBots
[07:35] <reisio> hahahah
[07:35] <reisio> that'd be hilarious
[07:35] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <dr_willis> flood bots are working
[07:35] <reisio> !automate
[07:35] <reisio> yeah, "working"
[07:35] <reisio> ah, they -ing'd it?
[07:35] <reisio> but left no original, clev-ar
[07:36] <reisio> !cloning
[07:36] <reisio> mmm, nope, wow
[07:36] <SynthMobile_> What does it mean when it says, "system program problem detected" this comes up when I enter live cd
[07:37] <dr_willis> SynthMobile_:  somthing crashed and apport is reporting it.
[07:37] <reisio> doesn't mean anything to me
[07:37] <dr_willis> which is weird on a live cd
[07:37] <reisio> except that whoever typed that was lazy
[07:37] <darkelfjuggalo> can anyone verify this string 'dpkg --get-selections > ~/Desktop/packages' as being what I need, or serving this purpose?
[07:37] <SynthMobile_> Huh. Is it because of a bad hardware? One of my drives is almost dead I think
[07:38] <dr_willis> darkelfjuggalo:  try it and see  it will just make a list of package names in a file..  you then do whatever you want to with that list
[07:38] <SynthMobile_> Anndd im using a flashdrive btw
[07:38] <SynthMobile_> Not a CD
[07:38] <darkelfjuggalo> ok thank you, that saves me from trying to copy and paste from terminal
[07:39] <dr_willis> aptidude has a similer output option
[07:40] <darkelfjuggalo> I was trying to find it and this came up first, this provides exactly what i want
[07:43] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:43] <darkelfjuggalo> 'account-plugin-*' this all goes with pidgin, correct?
[07:44] <reisio> darkelfjuggalo: empathy, methinks
[07:46] <darkelfjuggalo> ok yes, reisio, empathy... if i purge empathy[i don't use it, and didn't realize it was installed] all of these will be removed with it, correct?
[07:52] <reisio> darkelfjuggalo: depends on what you do/run, but potentially sure
[07:52] <darkelfjuggalo> ok
[07:53] <frostero> ok im thoroughly stumped
[07:53] <wtfasix> What happened
[07:53] <frostero> trying to mount a shared folder from windows into ubuntu 12.04
[07:54] <darkelfjuggalo> This is certainly going to take forever to purge what I don't need and fix everything else... there are several packages I've installed for built in hardware that won't work properly [mic and Webcam are top of this list]
[07:54] <frostero> easy task right? should be...
[07:56] <wtfasix> frostero: I'd say so, what's the problem while mounting?
[07:56] <frostero> status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[07:56] <frostero> CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
[07:57] <frostero> CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
[07:57] <wtfasix> frostero: http://thinkinginsoftware.blogspot.nl/2011/09/cifs-vfs-cifsmount-failed-return-code.html
[07:58] <frostero> thanks, reviewing now... brb
[08:00] <frostero> so i am attemping the mount from the cli, w/ mount.cifs //windows/share /mnt/point -o username
[08:00] <frostero> not even using a credentials file
[08:00] <frostero> tried it every way i can think of or find a variation of
[08:00] <frostero> continue getting the same errors
[08:00] <loverboy19> hello
[08:00] <loverboy19> eveyone
[08:01] <reisio> frostero: what errors?
[08:01] <frostero> status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[08:01] <reisio> frostero: try -o "username=windowsUserName",uid=unixUserName
[08:02] <frostero> the windows and ubuntu username are the same, so is the password
[08:02] <reisio> frostero: well, Unix passwords aren't stored in environmental variables :p
[08:02] <reisio> is it at least asking you for the password?
[08:02] <frostero> yes
[08:02] <reisio> okay
[08:02] <reisio> did you try the syntax I suggested?
[08:02] <frostero> one moment
[08:03] <frostero> same error
[08:03] <frostero> logs aren't helping either
[08:05] <reisio> frostero: try exporting PASSWD as the password
[08:05] <reisio> frostero: also you can try -o "username=domain\user",uid=user
[08:08] <frostero> what happened to ubuntu? this task used to take a couple minutes
[08:09] <Samul> I'm from live CD. where can I find the firefox' cronology that was into the OS?
[08:09] <dawkirst> Hi. Say I download a random tar with an executable inside, where do I extract it to (where does apps typically live?)
[08:09] <Samul> dawkirst: try in /home
[08:09] <blazemore> dawkirst: if you type "echo $PATH" you can see where your shell is looking for executables
[08:10] <BWorld> Hi, after installing ubuntu and formatting a drive a way to recover some files from the formatted disk?
[08:10] <blazemore> !testdisk | BWorld
[08:10] <blazemore> Oh. Look at a program called Testdisk, BWorld
[08:10] <DJones> !recover | blazemore
[08:10] <blazemore> ty DJones
[08:10] <Samul> I'm from live CD. where can I find the firefox' cronology that was into the OS?
[08:10] <BWorld> thanks, I will try it out
[08:10] <frostero> status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE, correct me if i am wrong here but this is telling me that ubuntu and windows are communicating up to the point of logon failure?
[08:11] <blazemore> Samul: Firefox stuff is stored in /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/
[08:11] <Samul> yah
[08:11] <Samul> *yeah
[08:11] <blazemore> frostero: I think you're right, the protocol is working otherwise you wouldn't get an error like "logon failure"
[08:11] <Samul> but I don't find cronology
[08:11] <blazemore> Samul: History?
[08:11] <Samul> yeah
[08:11] <Samul> it could be so
[08:11] <frostero> i wonder if i can follow this from the windows end
[08:12] <blazemore> Samul: It's stored in an SQlite database called "places.sqlite"
[08:13] <Samul> blazemore: thianks
[08:13] <Samul> *thanks
[08:13] <Samul> what application to open it?
[08:14] <pvh_sa> hey there, how can I speed up the unity  dash? At the moment it takes about 16 seconds to open and populate itself fully with icons (e.g. if I hit Windows key and type 'office')
[08:14] <Samul> what is the application to open sqlite?
[08:15] <pvh_sa> Samul,  its called sqlite3 (the command line application) and it is in the sqlite3 package
[08:15] <BWorld> It is performing a deepscan at this moment blazemore
[08:15] <dawkirst> Samul, blazemore thanks
[08:15] <Skizu> Hey I've ubuntu and looking to install lamp with php5.4+ can anyone help
[08:16] <Samul> OK
[08:16] <blazemore> Skizu: What Ubuntu version? And is it desktop or server?
[08:16] <DJones> BWorld: One thing I would suggest is that you stop using the drive that has the deleted files on it as soon as possible, if you're still using it, there's always a chance that something you do now could overwrite some of the files you may want to recover
[08:16] <Skizu> blazemore same as yesterday
[08:16] <blazemore> Skizu: Hold on, did we spend an entire day doing this?
[08:17] <blazemore> Skizu: Someone else can try now :P
[08:17] <Skizu> blazemore: indeed we did and it ended with I have no lamp stuff and just getting an 100 error
[08:17] <blazemore> Skizu: Can you please put the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit"
[08:18] <BWorld> Good point DJones but I am afraid that is not possible, if it was possible I definetly would do that
[08:18] <DJones> BWorld: One way of doing it would be to use a livecd/usb
[08:19] <Skizu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984150/
[08:20] <DJones> BWorld: I've never needed to recover files, but from memory, in the links from ubottu, there a live recovery cd is mentioned
[08:21] <Skizu> blazemore: how's it going?
[08:21] <blazemore> Skizu: This is going to be easy
[08:21] <cknoll> my eyes are no longer bleeding from ubuntus default fonts
[08:21] <Skizu> blazemore: give it to me
[08:21] <aneesh_> Hi
[08:22] <blazemore> Skizu: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get ugrade
[08:22] <cknoll> hi aneesh_
[08:22] <blazemore> Skizu: The PPA Purge thing yesterday didn't work apparently, and I assumed it had
[08:22] <aneesh_> On my server mysql stops working. Is that the problem related with space with server?
[08:22] <blazemore> Skizu: But the repositories you added are still there so we are going to remove them, get to a default, working LAMP stack using the standard package versions in the repository
[08:22] <blazemore> !details aneesh_ is there anything in the log file
[08:23] <blazemore> Skizu: And once it's working, worry about upgrading
[08:23] <aneesh_> my log file is empty
[08:23] <blazemore> !details | aneesh_ is there anything in the log file
[08:23] <Skizu> Ok blazemore so did what you said
[08:23] <blazemore> Skizu: Any errors from the package manager when you did the apt-get commands?
[08:24] <Skizu> Nope 0 on everything
[08:24] <aneesh_> ubuntu server 12.0 . But there is noting written on log file
[08:24] <blazemore> OK great so now Skizu sudo apt-get install php5 mysql-server apache2
[08:25] <aneesh_> Last two days the server is shuttindown unexpectly  because of power failure
[08:25] <cknoll> can you install a bunch of stuff in one command like that blazemore?
[08:25] <cknoll> <-- noob
[08:25] <aneesh_> today the mysql stops working
[08:25] <blazemore> cknoll: Yes of course!
[08:25] <cknoll> oh cool
[08:25] <blazemore> cknoll: I dread to think how you've been doing it
[08:25] <cknoll> blazemore: well i haven't done too much yet lol, so it's not been a big burden
[08:26] <Skizu> blazemore: done that what next
[08:26] <cknoll> i spent the last two days trying to figure out why my eyes were bleeding from the screen
[08:26] <aneesh_> I tried to restart the mysql but saying no service to start
[08:26] <blazemore> Skizu: Well now, check your LAMP stack works as you expect. Browse to http://localhost and check a page is served, etc
[08:27] <blazemore> aneesh_: What is the output of "sudo service mysql restart" ? Please paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
[08:27] <Skizu> blazemore: seems like it's just downloading the file? soo apache2 isn't supported?
[08:28] <blazemore> Skizu: What do you mean, your browser is downloading the file instead of displaying it? Sounds like an APache configuration weirdness
[08:28] <Skizu> blazemore: exactly as you said, anything I can do?
[08:29] <aneesh_> Hi this is url http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984181/
[08:29] <blazemore> Skizu: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[08:29] <blazemore> Skizu: the --purge will remove configuration files
[08:29] <blazemore> Skizu: Then you can reinstall it
[08:29] <Skizu> using "sudo apt-get apache2"
[08:29] <aneesh_> blazemore : This is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984181/
[08:30] <blazemore> udo apt-get install apache2
[08:30] <Skizu> blazemore: I got a fail message
[08:30] <blazemore> aneesh_: Can you do the same for "sudo dpkg -l | grep mysql"
[08:30] <blazemore> Skizu: You'll have to be more specific :) What command gave you what error? Use pastebin if necessary
[08:31] <aneesh_> blazemore : ok
[08:31] <Skizu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984191/
[08:32] <aneesh_> blazemore : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984194/
[08:32] <chalcedony`> dr_willis, it was his 2nd mouse being plugged in.
[08:32] <Skizu> blazemore: should I just reinstall
[08:32] <Skizu> It'll take 5minutes
[08:32] <blazemore> Skizu: If that's an easy option, then hell yes
[08:33] <cknoll> not just yes, _HELL_ yes
[08:34] <bekks> Skizu: Why do you want to reinstall?
[08:34] <Skizu> bekks: because it's fucked
[08:35] <LambdaDusk> is there a way to tell the length in seconds (as a float) of an .ogg file via shell?
[08:35] <SierraAR> Is it possible to have multiple IP addresses assigned to a single ubuntu 12.04 server that has one network adaptor?
[08:35] <kenneth_> -side "Brushing"
[08:35] <bekks> Skizu: Please watch your language and precisely decribe your problem. According to your last paste, there isnt even a trace of a problem.
[08:35] <sinco> SierraAR: Yes, you can add as many ips' you want
[08:35] <blazemore> SierraAR: It is possible using ethernet aliases http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html
[08:36] <somsip> SierraAR: yes. This is taken care of by your DNS settings (A and CNAME records)
[08:36] <usr_courier> hi all! Sorry for off-topic, but could someone tell me is there any channel about a Canonical "ubuntuphone"?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: sure, you can have subinterfaces
[08:36] <DJones> !phone | usr_courier
[08:36] <Skizu> bekks I've spent over a day trying to get damn lamp on my ubuntu box I'll just reinstall and hope it lets me select the lamp server again it'll be quicker than all the messing around I've been through
[08:36] <usr_courier> ubottu: thanks!
[08:36] <usr_courier> u bottu, its ok
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[08:37] <bekks> Skizu: According to your paste, Apache2 is already installed. So whats the detailed problem you are facing?
[08:37] <IWorkForARetard> ubottu: all bots must die
[08:37] <blazemore> Skizu: It is quicker, and then you can focus on upgrading php but I will make sure it's a proper guide
[08:37] <linglyz> I want to ask something, does SKYPE program support in my LinuxTLE 10 (based on Ubuntu 10)?
[08:37] <Skizu> bekks: it was downloading the file
[08:37] <bekks> Skizu: I wont recommend reinstalling since it will not solve your problem of properly configuring your webserver.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.200 netmask 25.255.255.0
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: etc
[08:38] <bekks> Skizu: What is "it", which file, when doing what?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: oh and add 'up' to the end
[08:38] <bekks> !details | Skizu
[08:38]  * SierraAR is reading the article blazemore linked and being spammed with highlight notices! XD
[08:38] <SierraAR> Gimme a couple seconds to read through this :P
[08:38] <blazemore> haha SierraAR it's OK :)
[08:39] <SierraAR> '/etc/network/interfaces' <-- If I recall correctly, 12.04 uses a different path/filename for this, though I can't remember it off the top of my head
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: the network/interfaces file is still in the same place and can be used
[08:40] <SierraAR> And the changes I make will be kept on reboot?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: yes, however interfaces you configure there will not be able to be manipulated in network manager
[08:41] <Skizu> blazemore: installing the base system
[08:41] <SierraAR> Everything's command line on this server anyway, that doesn't bother me much
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: then awesome :)
[08:41] <aneesh_> blazemore : could you please check that link
[08:41] <Skizu> blazemore: how to I get pastebinit again?
[08:41] <bekks> Skizu: Good luck then in configuring your system later on.
[08:42] <Skizu> bekks it was a clean install yesterday, I had no configuration :D
[08:42] <Skizu> Just set up interfaces to dhcp
[08:42] <SierraAR> Hm, I already have a block for the existing connection, which I had to set up manually as DHCP is not enabled. Would I be safe just copying that block, replacing eth0 with eth0:0, and editing the necessary lines for the second IP?
[08:42] <bekks> Skizu: And you will have no configuration after reinstalling. Again, you will have to configure your webserver. Reinstallation does not magically solve problems.
[08:43] <Skizu> bekks solves the issue with my tasksel issue :)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> SierraAR: however you want, you can even have sub interfaces on DHCP as well
[08:43] <bekks> Skizu: I bet it doesnt.
[08:43] <Skizu> It's installing lamp now ;)
[08:43] <bekks> Skizu: It was installed before, too...
[08:44] <Skizu> No failure aptitude (100)
[08:44] <bekks> Skizu: What does "No failure aptitude (100)" mean?
[08:44] <Skizu> bekks: Well we shall see =] no idea it's what I got when I tried to tasksel and install lamp server
[08:45] <bekks> Skizu: So why do you think that "no failure" indicated an error - after stating you had no idea?
[08:45] <Skizu> There was no at the begining, It was the word failure
[08:45] <SierraAR> ActionParsnip: What are the chances of me butchering the server's entire network connection if I make any changes to this, by the way?
[08:46] <bekks> Skizu: "no failure" does not mean "failure" - you know? :)
[08:46] <Skizu> I missed a comma :P
[08:46] <Skizu> Bam right of the back I got a it works! page
[08:46] <bekks> Skizu: You can install LAMP (which was already installed) without tasksel, too.
[08:47] <Skizu> bekks I tried it, it messed up :s
[08:47] <dragonnnn> oh I see
[08:47] <bekks> Skizu: It didnt, your paste didnt indicate any error.
[08:47] <bekks> Skizu: Basically: reinstallation is ot necessary for solving problems, Ubuntu isnt Windows. :)
[08:48] <bekks> *not
[08:48] <dr_willis> unless you really really got major weird problems. ;)
[08:48] <Skizu> bekks: Was fed up already spent hours on trying to get it sorted no one could help so here I am just need to chmod a dir and put my stuff in
[08:48] <bekks> dr_willis: In that case, you know it ;)
[08:48] <bekks> Skizu: You dont need to chmod for putting things into a dir.
[08:48] <dr_willis> bekks:  saw that  'glibc' was seg faulting on a machine of mine last night.... still  looking into that one. ;)
[08:49] <bekks> dr_willis: :D
[08:49] <dr_willis> glibc is like a majorly imorntant library i belive.
[08:49] <bekks> dr_willis: Yeah, somehow ;)
[08:49] <Skizu> Using winSCP so I had to?
[08:49] <bekks> Skizu: No.
[08:50] <dr_willis> i use winscp to piut stuff in my  users home directory all the time ;0
[08:50] <bekks> Skizu: You dont run a webserver with user permissions.
[08:50] <bekks> Skizu: So there is no point in trying to put stuff into the webserver directories as a user. Thats a major security issue.
[08:51] <Skizu>  bekks so what do I want to do
[08:51] <linglyz> Do you know any chatbot programs based on IRC server which support Ubuntu?
[08:51] <deezed> linglyz: xchat?
[08:52] <moldy> linglyz: probably pretty much all of them
[08:52] <bekks> Skizu: you want to copy files as user to a user-accessable directory, then, you want to move/copy these files using sudo into the target directories of the webserver. No reinstallation needed.
[08:52] <deezed> linglyz: yes I dont know one that doesnt
[08:52] <deezed> linglyz: maybe irssi
[08:52] <dr_willis> linglyz:  most irc clients for linux are scriptable.. there are irc bots also in the repos
[08:52] <Skizu> bekks: I reinstalled as I'd ppa stuff messing stuff up and couldn't install stuff properly
[08:53] <linglyz> hmmm......
[08:53] <bekks> Skizu: Your paste didnt indicate any of that.
[08:53] <Skizu> I made a user accessible directory as i was using winSCP
[08:53] <dr_willis> linglyz:  what are you trying to acomplish excatly?
[08:53] <Skizu> Yeah blazemore and I had mentioned it in the chat
[08:53] <linglyz> I want to ask for some chatbot programmes for Ubuntu....
[08:54] <SierraAR> In /etc/network/interfaces, lines prefixed with # are ignored as comments correct?
[08:54] <deezed> linglyz: which irc software are you using?
[08:54] <bekks> Skizu: Then why didnt you mentioned it after I asked you again? Anyway, seems like you want to keep going the windows way, and reinstall when facing an issue. Good luck with that.
[08:54] <dr_willis> linglyz:  thers numerous 'irc bots' in the repos and other sources. it all depends on what you need them to do
[08:54] <linglyz> I use Pidgin
[08:54] <Skizu> bekks: Just wanted to start simple, first time using this, so want a clean slate so I can follow
[08:55] <dr_willis> linglyz:  i suggest learning a better irc client.
[08:55] <dr_willis> linglyz:  such as weechat, irssi, or xchat
[08:55] <deezed> linglyz: yes you should try xchat
[08:55] <Skizu> Seems like apache2 isn't started
[08:55] <bekks> Skizu: Then why dont you listen to the people trying to help you, when telling you "you dont need to reinstall"? Anyway, seems like you know it all better. Good luck again, I am resting this case.
[08:56] <deezed> linglyz: its easy and a properly irc client. You will also have anything you need just with clicks
[08:56] <SynthMobile_> What are the other ways to open a terminal in 12.04?
[08:56] <linglyz> Thank you so much.....
[08:56] <Skizu> bekks: No no I don't know better, I just wanted a clean slate as if it hadn't somehow messed up
[08:56] <moldy> SynthMobile_: other than what?
[08:56] <linglyz> ;)
[08:56] <bekks> SynthMobile_: Other ways than...?
[08:56] <deezed> linglyz: irssi is nice, but if you are not used to keyboard commands it can be hard to start with
[08:56] <SynthMobile_> Other than ctrl alt t or searching in unity
[08:56] <SierraAR> In /etc/network/interfaces, lines prefixed with # are ignored as comments, correct? Just want to make sure this won't cause an error when I reboot and keep me from remote accessing the server
[08:57] <moldy> SierraAR: yes
[08:57] <darkelfjuggalo> I am going through my packages, trying to understand what they do, so i know what i need what I don't can someone tell me what Zeitgeist is...i know is is referred to by  activity-log-manager-common & activity-log-manager-control-center. Everything i am finding has nothing to do with computers.
[08:57] <SierraAR> moldy: K, thanks
[08:57] <dr_willis> if you want to controll an 'irc bot' you wont be doing lots of clicking in a gui for it ;) you will be using irc commands
[08:57] <deezed> SynthMobile_: you can make a script to open it
[08:57] <SynthMobile_> How please
[08:57] <deezed> dr_willis: lol thats true
[08:57] <moldy> darkelfjuggalo: it's some kind of fancy search mechanism. google will tell you the details.
[08:57] <deezed> SynthMobile_: why are you going to use it? to be able to click in a icon?
[08:57] <linglyz> not really control, but only chatting with bots for testing
[08:58] <SynthMobile_> No I cant access it..
[08:58] <deezed> SynthMobile_: what do you mean?
[08:58] <SynthMobile_> Ctr alt t doesnt work and launcher is missing on my live cd
[08:58] <darkelfjuggalo> moldy ; google is showing something philosophical
[08:58] <SynthMobile_> Even alt f2 dont work
[08:59] <deezed> SynthMobile_: you can not access terminal so?
[08:59] <dr_willis> SynthMobile_:  so your desktop is totally goofed up?
[08:59] <moldy> darkelfjuggalo: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+zeitgeist
[08:59] <deezed> SynthMobile_: have you tried ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[08:59] <SynthMobile_> Indeed im on a live cd/live usb or w.e.
[09:00] <deezed> SynthMobile_: you can not open the menu and write terminal?
[09:00] <darkelfjuggalo> amusing moldy
[09:00] <deezed> SynthMobile_: and then enter?
[09:00] <moldy> darkelfjuggalo: ;p
[09:00] <SynthMobile_> Ctrl alt f1 turned my screen to one big terminal and said permissipn denied and I cant do nothing now
[09:00] <SynthMobile_> No I cant
[09:00] <dr_willis> SynthMobile_:  alt-0cgrtl-f1 through f6 are the CONSOLES... alt-ctrl-f7 to get back to the X desktop
[09:01] <deezed> SynthMobile_: this big terminal is another tty
[09:01] <SynthMobile_> It rebooted lol
[09:01] <deezed> SynthMobile_: lol
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> SynthMobile_: ctrl+alt+f7 gets back to the X sessio
[09:02] <deezed> SynthMobile_:  are you using ubuntu live cd?
[09:02] <SynthMobile_> Im getting a lot of bad sectors on one of my drives and I wanted to run fsck
[09:02] <SynthMobile_> Uhm ues but its on a usb lol
[09:02] <SynthMobile_> *yes
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> SynthMobile_: fsck wont fix bad sectors
[09:02] <deezed> SynthMobile_: ok, so why the launcher was not running
[09:02] <deezed> ?
[09:02] <bekks> SynthMobile_: You should do a backup of the entire disk before. Bad sectors indicate physical errors, not filesystem errors.
[09:03] <frostero> thanx for the help all
[09:03] <dhanush> Hi. I have a BCM4312 wireless card. I just installed firmware-b43-lpphy-installer to get the wireless to work. But it keeps getting disconnected very frequently. Any help please?
[09:03] <SynthMobile_> Yea no I dont care bout the files anymore yheyre pretty old files lol anyway, what could you suggest? Im just trying to revive an old desktop for my mom
[09:04] <SynthMobile_> It reports about 600 bad sectors. How bout a reformat?
[09:04] <deezed> SynthMobile_: oh.. I would suggest another distro
[09:04] <SynthMobile_> Why?
[09:04] <deezed> SynthMobile_: there are some distros specifically to old desktops
[09:04] <bekks> SynthMobile_: Dont listen to that pointless advice.
[09:05] <deezed> bekks: lol
[09:05] <deezed> bekks: why not?
[09:05] <bekks> SynthMobile_: Bad sectors are not fixed by reformatting or using another distro.
[09:05] <SynthMobile_> Welll its not that old, its around 3, 4 years old tops
[09:05] <bekks> deezed: Because another distro will not fix broken hardware.
[09:05] <bekks> SynthMobile_: You should backup your disk and check it afterwards.
[09:06] <dr_willis> definatly dont trust the hard drive
[09:06] <SynthMobile_> Ok im not looking to fix them anymore I just want it to be able to hold an OS for about a month or so till my mom gets his laptop back from the service center
[09:06] <deezed> bekks: thats true, but if you use a distro not that heavy like ubuntu, you could ignore some errors.. fixing them is a hardware stuff anyway
[09:06] <dr_willis> emergancy use - partion the hard drive.. put all the bad sectors in a partion you wont use... and use the rest.. and hope for the best
[09:06] <bekks> deezed: You cant ignore bad sectors by just using another distro.
[09:07] <bekks> SynthMobile_: You need to take a backup - now.
[09:07] <SynthMobile_> Yup hard drive is shitty now she only needs her emails and poetables are not an option she hates small texts amd keyboards
[09:07] <SynthMobile_> Backup of what?
[09:07] <SynthMobile_> I dont need the old files anymore
[09:07] <deezed> SynthMobile_: I would suggest you to do this partition thing and try another distro for old desktops
[09:07] <dhanush> Hi. I have a BCM4312 wireless card. I just installed firmware-b43-lpphy-installer to get the wireless to work. But it keeps getting disconnected very frequently. Any help please
[09:07] <dr_willis> backups inporntant data somewhere.. if you dont need them.. well repartion as i mentioned above and expect the hd to totally fail soon
[09:07] <timchen119> SynthMobile_, why not just the live usb then
[09:07] <Skizu> Hey just wondering what program it is which makes PHP errors more readable?
[09:07] <blazemore> dhanush: What Ubuntu version?
[09:07] <bekks> deezed: That will not save his data. So its a pretty pointless advice.
[09:08] <SynthMobile_> Live usb fucks up too and idk why lol
[09:08] <dhanush> blazemore: 12.04
[09:08] <deezed> bekks: HE DOESNT NEED TO SAVE HIS DATA!!
[09:08] <bekks> deezed: Stop shouting at people.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: are there lots of networks on the same channel around you?
[09:08] <blazemore> dhanush: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[09:08] <SynthMobile_> Lol deezed chill
[09:08] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: Yup there are.
[09:09] <Mace268> 3-4 years old is new enough for ubuntu imho
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: then switch to a less crowded channel
[09:09] <SynthMobile_> Dr_willis yes I am expecting that
[09:09] <deezed> bekks: you keep saying its a pointless advice... im not so rude at least
[09:09] <aneesh_> any body knows about this error
[09:09] <aneesh_> Depends: mysql-client-5.5 (>= 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[09:09] <aneesh_>                     Depends: mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[09:09] <aneesh_>                     PreDepends: mysql-common (>= 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[09:09] <aneesh_>                     Breaks: mysql-server (< 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[09:09] <aneesh_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[09:09] <FloodBot1> aneesh_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:09] <SynthMobile_> I mean the hdd to fail soon
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> aneesh_: please use a pastebin
[09:09] <aneesh_> sorry
[09:09] <bekks> SynthMobile_: Then take a backup now.
[09:09] <dhanush> blazemore: Yrah I did that. Before that it didnt recognize the device. After doing that it does. but disconnects
[09:09] <bekks> SynthMobile_: The longer you dont do it, the more data you will lose.
[09:09] <blazemore> aneesh_: Please put on http://paste.ubuntu.com the full error, and the command you ran to produce it
[09:09] <SynthMobile_> Bekks dont need the backup
[09:09] <aneesh_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984286/
[09:10] <dr_willis> SynthMobile_:  so what do you want to do then?
[09:10] <bekks> SynthMobile_: Then why do you care about your broken hard disk at all?
[09:10] <blazemore> aneesh_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[09:10] <deezed> bekks: omg you still are saying to him backup?
[09:10] <aneesh_> ok
[09:10] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: Cant. college wifi. restricted access to only one.
[09:10] <SynthMobile_> Bekks I need it as a temp system
[09:10] <aneesh_> thanks
[09:11] <dr_willis>  SynthMobile_  so for  emergancy use - partion the hard drive.. put all the bad sectors in a partion you wont use... and use the rest.. and hope for the best
[09:11] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: also if I switch off and the switch on my wireless then It connects again easily. But then it gets disconnected again.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: then thats the issue, if lots of networks use the same channel then you'll get problems
[09:11] <bekks> SynthMobile_: Then what do you expect us to help you with? No data worth to be kept, no efforts in investigating the disk, etc.? :)
[09:12] <SynthMobile_> dr_willis ok wait, so how do I "put all the bad sectors" in one partition?
[09:12] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: okay. how do you define a channel?
[09:12] <dr_willis> SynthMobile_:  make several partions.. make one that  covers the area of the hd where the bad sectors are at
[09:12] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: or rather how do you distinguish between a channel and a network?
[09:13] <deezed> SynthMobile_: you can do all of this when formating
[09:13] <blazemore> dhanush: http://support.zen.co.uk/kb/KnowledgebaseArticle.aspx?articleid=11344
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'sid|chan'    will show the SSID and the Channel name
[09:13] <deezed> SynthMobile_: or using gparted
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: you can have lots of networks around, this is not a problem. If they are on the same channel then this is an issue
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> aneesh_: are there amy bugs reported
[09:16] <SynthMobile_> dr_willis hold on, do I do tha mwnually or when I reformst it it would wutomatically do that?
[09:16] <aneesh_> yes ActionParsnip
[09:16] <aneesh_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984194/
[09:16] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: yeah. same channel lots of networks.
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: thats why then
[09:17] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: Any solution?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> aneesh_: then post on the bug stating that it affects you too
[09:17] <Skizu> I just installed xdebug like suggested, any additional config needed for it to kick in?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: change the channels
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> ShadowStruck: could try one of the other broadcom drivers
[09:17] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: I can do that myself??
[09:18] <aneesh_> ActionParsnip Yes. I posted that one
[09:19] <deezed> bye people
[09:19] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: I think I will need access to the router right?
[09:19] <deezed> see you
[09:19] <deezed> bekks: sorry about everything
[09:19] <Skizu> I just installed xdebug, any additional config needed for it to kick in?
[09:19] <deezed> bekks: I didnt want to be rude with you afterall...
[09:20] <deezed> bekks: see you
[09:20] <SierraAR> Woo that worked, thanks for the help with the network stuff guys
[09:20] <reisio> SierraAR: you are welcome!
[09:20]  * reisio bows
[09:23] <Skizu> Hey I'm having trouble installing xdebug, seems to be installed but not doing anything could someone help
[09:23] <dr_willis> !info xdebug
[09:23] <dr_willis> !find xdebug
[09:24] <Skizu> Fine php5-xdebug I can't seem to get it to do anything
[09:27] <krypto> using 13.04 desktop,dashboard on left is not coming until we open nautilus...is this a setting miss configuration
[09:28] <dr_willis> krypto:  try making a new user , see if it is also affected by the issue. if so. that points to a setting problem with the problematic first user
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: to change channel. yes
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> krypto: if you add nautilus to the startup, does it start as expected?
[09:29] <Skizu> Odd question, how to scroll up in ssh
[09:29] <dhanush> ActionParsnip:Okay. But I do not have access to the router. College  Wifi.
[09:29] <vlitomsk> hi
[09:29] <reisio> Skizu: PGUP? Mousewheel?
[09:29] <krypto> if i click on any directories,dashboard will come up,else dashboard is hidden
[09:30] <Skizu> Just goes through the commands I typed =/
[09:30] <reisio> Skizu: or if you were smart: CTRL+a, ESC, then PGUP/arrow/k
[09:30] <dr_willis> Skizu:  depends on what terminal ypou are using. ;)
[09:30] <Skizu> Erm, wait I'm not in ssh I'm on the machine command line stuff directly
[09:30] <dr_willis> Skizu:  if doing a lot of ssh work. its a good idea to learn to use tmux, or screen, or byobu
[09:31] <dr_willis> Skizu:  and what terminal program are ypou using? the console? xterm? terminator? gnome-terminal?
[09:31] <Skizu> ._. default for ubuntu?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: you won't have access, I suggest you try a different driver
[09:31] <dr_willis> default  on the DESKTOP? Skizu ?
[09:31] <Skizu> Server?
[09:31] <Skizu> server install
[09:31] <Skizu> ubuntu
[09:32] <dr_willis> Skizu:  then you are using the CONSOLE and not X.
[09:32] <vlitomsk> anyone could help me with alsa? i successfully run alsamixer in TTY terminal (ctrl-alt-fN). But when i do startx and write alsamixer in terminal emulator, it says 'cannot open mixer: no such file or directory'
[09:32] <Skizu> How do I scroll up on the CONSOLE
[09:32] <dr_willis> Skizu:  if you want a screen buffer. use tmux, or screen, or  a framebuffer terminal.
[09:32] <reisio> Skizu: SHIFT+PGUP
[09:32] <vlitomsk> sorry for language mistakes
[09:32] <dr_willis> those will give extra features.   try  what reisio  said also. ;)
[09:32] <dr_willis> !info fbterm
[09:32] <Skizu> reisio: thanks
[09:33] <Skizu> dr_willis: huh?
[09:33] <dr_willis> Skizu:  the console is lacking in many features you may want.  screen, tmux. fbterm, will give you more features. If you got a mouse  install gpm also so you can use it for some actions
[09:33] <Skizu> Hmm dang, seems like something it working without working, could I get help here with xdebug/
[09:34] <somsip> Skizu: what have you done with xdebug so far?
[09:34] <Skizu> dr_willis: using "sudo apt-get install gpm" ?
[09:34] <Skizu> somsip: I installed it
[09:34] <dr_willis> Skizu:  yes..
[09:35] <Skizu> Awesome got a mouse now thanks dr_willis
[09:35] <dr_willis> Skizu:   you may want to read up on bash ussage and command line basics befor messing with advanced php stuff.
[09:35] <dr_willis> Skizu:  of course you an still do 'php' stuff with a desktop install.
[09:35] <Skizu> Well I can do PHP, but now I've been told I gotta set up the box which runs it :P that's my issue
[09:35] <somsip> Skizu: what version of ubuntu and PHP?
[09:35] <dr_willis> !lamp
[09:35] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: wl ?
[09:35] <Antar> Hello everybody
[09:36] <Skizu> Well 5.3.10 at the moment but will need 5.4+ and for the ubunutu version
[09:36] <syedhamid> hi guys, if i run ubuntu test, not install it yet, and if i try to install kernel 3.10.3 on it to test if it works, after i reboot, will the kernel I downloaded will be removed? or all the files I downloaded during the live usb testing?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> dhanush: there are a few
[09:36] <syedhamid> hi
[09:36] <somsip> Skizu: so you're on 12.04?
[09:36] <syedhamid> hi guys, if i run ubuntu test, not install it yet, and if i try to install kernel 3.10.3 on it to test if it works, after i reboot, will the kernel I downloaded will be removed? or all the files I downloaded during the live usb testing?
[09:36] <Antar> is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file
[09:36] <syedhamid> hi guys, if i run ubuntu test, not install it yet, and if i try to install kernel 3.10.3 on it to test if it works, after i reboot, will the kernel I downloaded will be removed? or all the files I downloaded during the live usb testing?
[09:36] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  live usb - has a persistnt save file.. but i dnt think it can boot/run differnt kernels on a live-usb-persistant save setup.
[09:36] <Skizu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5984382/
[09:37] <Antar> is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:37] <dhanush> ActionParsnip: Could you name them?
[09:37] <Skizu> somsip: appears so :)
[09:37] <syedhamid> dr_willis: if i try install kernel 3.10.3 on it, and it worked, after i reboot, will the files remain on my system even tho i did it in a live usb?
[09:37] <syedhamid> dr_willis: or if I try to install gnome-ppp on the liveusb, after I reboot, will gnome-ppp will be removed?
[09:37] <nowayride> Is there a good link to unattended installer, or am I missing something? Followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505 for server 12.04.2
[09:37] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  if you have a persistrant save file. yes. but how are you testing the kernel? I  DONT think you can just change kernels the live-usb setup uses that way
[09:38] <syedhamid> during the testing
[09:38] <Antar> is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:38] <somsip> Skizu: in what way doesn't it work? What is your test?
[09:38] <syedhamid> dr_willis: u are not understanding
[09:38] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  normal apps should be remebered.. its the kernel and drivers that may  have issues
[09:38] <Skizu> somsip: so any ideas why my php5-xdebug isn't kicking in and is still showing default errors
[09:38] <syedhamid> dr_willis: no
[09:38] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:38] <somsip> Skizu: maybe because it is not setup correctly. How are you testing it?
[09:39] <syedhamid> dr_willis: example: if I go to liveusb mode, and (try ubuntu without installing), I install gnome-ppp, wvdial, brasero, steam on it, after I reboot or end that liveusb session, will those files remain in my PC or will be removed?
[09:39] <dr_willis> a live-usb with a persistant save file - you CAN install other apps.  but   there can be complecations
[09:39] <Skizu> somsip: my test is I've a lot of errors due to the php version, but they're showing as standard php errors, without the xdebug way of showing errors in a readable way
[09:39] <vlitomsk> i have "good" files in /proc/asound, ALSA detects my card successfully, but i can't run 'alsamixer' in X terminal emulator (from openbox WM)
[09:39] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  normal apps will be remebered.. as i said.
[09:39] <syedhamid> dr_willis: example: if I go to liveusb mode, and (try ubuntu without installing), I install gnome-ppp, wvdial, brasero, steam on it, after I reboot or end that liveusb session, will those files remain in my PC or will be removed?
[09:39] <vlitomsk> help me
[09:39] <syedhamid> remembered?
[09:39] <peterrus> Skizu, I am not sure if I have ever seen that
[09:39] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:39] <syedhamid> dr_willis: will those apps I installed on liveusb will be removed or not? that is question
[09:39] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  thats  the whole point of the 'persistant save file' it saves the changes you make
[09:39] <peterrus> Skizu, as far as I know xdebug does not change the way errors are logged (in apache's error.log)
[09:40] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  if you ahve a save file made - yes.. if you DONT.. then no
[09:40] <Skizu> peterrus: not logged, the way the look
[09:40] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:40] <syedhamid> dr_willis: if I don't have a save file, those apps will be removed after I reboot?
[09:40] <peterrus> Skizu, what do you mean exactly? when I use xdebug, they dont change in any way
[09:40] <Skizu> peterrus: e.g. http://xdebug.org/docs/stack_trace
[09:40] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:40] <Antar> Please is there any way to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04 using an iso file ?
[09:40] <dr_willis> Antar:  get the iso. mount it.. and it should ask. or it might..
[09:40] <somsip> Skizu: Not sure what you mean. Does phpinfo() show that xdebug is installed ok
[09:40] <Skizu> Look how it shows errors there, doesn't so any such thing for me
[09:40] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  if you ahve a save file made - yes.. if you DONT.. then no <<<<<<<<<< You DONT. then NO it wont save
[09:40] <Skizu> somsip: Yeah appears in both PHP part and the zend part
[09:40] <Antar> ok drwilis
[09:41] <syedhamid> how can I check if a save file is made or not
[09:41] <dr_willis> Antar:  i would think you could of allready tried it and see if it worked. ;)
[09:41] <somsip> Skizu: try setting html_errors = On in php.ini? http://is.gd/w7HH6d
[09:41] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  look for a casper-rw file on the usb.. or try a simple change. like downloading a wallpaper image. and see if its still there when you reboot
[09:41] <vlitomsk> all previous story + alsamixer runs with sudo in X terminal emulator
[09:41] <vlitomsk> but without sudo it crases
[09:41] <vlitomsk> *crashes
[09:41] <syedhamid> dr_willis: it is not there, yea it worked
[09:42] <peterrus> Skizu, stacktraces are on by default these days afaik, xdebug does not have anything to to with that
[09:42] <vlitomsk> does anyone know how to fix it?
[09:42] <nowayride> Antar https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades has some instruction, but (as it states) I'd definitely make updates first since Ubuntu can um.. break.. during an upgrade. Or at least be able to recover from a rescue CD
[09:42] <nowayride> Make backups first*
[09:42] <dr_willis> backup your backups!
[09:42] <syedhamid> nowayride; ubuntu distro can break during the upgrade?
[09:42] <syedhamid> o.O ubuntu distro can break during the upgrade??
[09:43] <dr_willis> anything can break during a upgrade
[09:43] <peterrus> jup
[09:43] <syedhamid> now I am scared to upgrade...
[09:43] <peterrus> you should be
[09:43] <dr_willis> power failure during a upgrade = bad....  on ANY OS
[09:43] <nowayride> IDK about desktops, but I've seen plenty of "I upgraded to 12.04 and it won't boot", it might be more server hardware though
[09:43] <peterrus> thats why you always backup your complete system
[09:43] <aneesh_> what is the number of source available for the ubuntu server . I mean how many number are there Get:214 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates/restricted Sources [5,467 B]
[09:43] <Skizu> somsip: For some reason it was off, just made it On do I need to restart apache2?
[09:43] <peterrus> Skizu, yes
[09:43] <syedhamid> dr_willis: if I am upgrading thru apt-get upgrade, and suddenly, my battery runs out....
[09:43] <syedhamid> what will happen
[09:43] <peterrus> syedhamid, that will be the last you see of yrour system
[09:43] <somsip> Skizu: yes, but I have no idea what it does or what you're trying to achieve.
[09:43] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  then you will wish you had made backupos
[09:44] <nowayride> But upgrading major releases brings a lot of changes and there's always a chance something can break, or as stated there could be a power out or something and brick it, so at least have backups or know how to recover from livecd
[09:44] <aneesh_> It is taking  time Already it took around 30 minutes already . How much time I need to wait to complete the update
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> syedhamid: dont do upgrades on battery......
[09:44] <Skizu> somsip: exactly that thanks :)
[09:44] <dr_willis> syedhamid:   an  'apt-get upgrade' is  not the same as doing a release upgrade
[09:44] <syedhamid> how to recover from livecd
[09:44] <somsip> Skizu: cool
[09:44] <robertknight> Is there a way to add a local post-install hook for a specific upstream package?
[09:44] <peterrus> Skizu, protip, use vagrants, they really simplify all this setting up of development environments
[09:44] <dr_willis> killing apt  in mid-working  is not a good idea
[09:44] <yolandre> hi all. i need some adive regarding an installation issue. anyone interested?
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> yolandre  ask away
[09:44] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  recover what? it depends on whats broken
[09:44] <reisio> yolandre: I'm not, but I'll give it anyways, if the issue is ever specified
[09:45] <Skizu> What do I need to install/enable to use mod-rewrite?
[09:45] <syedhamid> dr_willis: like, if I cannot boot
[09:45] <peterrus> Skizu, take a look at this if you like: http://www.vagrantup.com/ and this https://github.com/peterrus/vagrant-lamp
[09:45] <syedhamid> or cannot access my files
[09:45] <nowayride> So yeah.. has anyone messed with unattended installer? I'm thinking it's not even picking up my kickstart or hitting the correct boot option
[09:45] <syedhamid> dr_willis: ubuntu shouldn't have added that ecryptfs option
[09:45] <peterrus> Skizu, a2enmod rewrite
[09:45] <syedhamid> many people dont know about ecryptfs
[09:45] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  boot live cd.. mount your installed system .. access files
[09:46] <syedhamid> linux-beginners use ecryptfs
[09:46] <syedhamid> and they dont know about that
[09:46] <dr_willis> I dont use  the encryoted stuff.. so no idea on it.
[09:46] <syedhamid> if ecryptfs gets broken
[09:46] <syedhamid> they'll lose their files
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> syedhamid  beginners don't use encryption
[09:46] <syedhamid> dr_willis: 99% do it, like that box, "encrypt your directory?" and most are like "sure why not"
[09:46] <dr_willis> thats why its not enabled by default
[09:46] <syedhamid> monkeydust: they do
[09:47] <syedhamid> keep that ecryptfs thing out of the installation, i would say to ubuntu developers
[09:47] <yolandre> i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 from usb flash disc on a blank partition to have it run along side with windows 8 pro x64. the problem: the ubuntu installer doesn't report any of the existing ntfs partitions. the odd thing: running ubuntu live from the installation media all 3 existing ntfs partitions are preperly reported and can ctually be accessed from ubuntu.
[09:47] <syedhamid> if they want ecryptfs, they must do it manually
[09:47] <iceroot_> syedhamid: and when you hdd gets broken you will also lose your stuff, because of that there are backups
[09:47] <peterrus> if you guys close your laptop lid, and it suspends, then when you wake it up, does it briefly show your desktop/screen contents before actually locking the screen? I find this to be a real security issue
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> yolandre: resize your NTFS in Windows, then reboo and run a chkdsk to be sure it is healthy
[09:47] <peterrus> syedhamid, it is the only place to actually use it
[09:47] <iceroot_> peterrus: no
[09:47] <syedhamid> peterrus: looks like someones been lurking around your /home/
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> peterrus: report a bug
[09:47] <reisio> peterrus: immediately after closing it?
[09:47] <peterrus> syedhamid, you cant encrypt your partition afterwards
[09:48] <Skizu> So I've done that and restarted, still getting a 404 on rewrites, anything in php.ini i need to enable?
[09:48] <peterrus> reisio, I close it, it suspends, then I wait for x hours, then I open it, the screen is shown, for about 1 second, then the screen is locked
[09:48] <syedhamid> peterrus: is upgrading a bad idea?
[09:48] <syedhamid> or should we just upgrade from iso
[09:48] <peterrus> syedhamid, no
[09:48] <peterrus> syedhamid, but upgrading unprepared is
[09:48] <reisio> peterrus: I wouldn't worry about it
[09:49] <reisio> peterrus: anybody experienced who actually wants your data will get it if they have physical access
[09:49] <nowayride> peterrus: physical access is a security risk
[09:49] <syedhamid> has anybody experienced that? like if they tried upgrading, and something broke?
[09:49] <vlitomsk> Help me, why sound&alsamixer work fine with root privelegies, but without privelegies alsamixer says 'cannot open mixer: no such file or directory'? i use tiny Xorg + tiny openbox
[09:49] <reisio> locked screen won't stop'm
[09:49] <peterrus> reisio, nowayride sure sure, but this clearly seems like a design error
[09:49] <reisio> :)
[09:49] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  first rule of comptuter data  reliabilty... keep backups.
[09:49] <kimda> hi. i 've got a weird networking issue.. I've changed firewall settings a week ago and since then there are network connectivity issues. Even after changing the settings back to the original settings these issues remain. Also whats weird that one virtual interface is accessible from the same network - even from a different physical server from the same network - but is not accessible from outside the network. Yesterday I got it working again. But thi
[09:49] <kimda> s morning I cannot access it via ping/ssh etc.. Any ideas what could be wrong with it? Maybe the arp cache? The other interface on the same machine is accessible though.
[09:49] <yolandre> i've tried the installtion with the pace set aside for ubuntu formatted as ntfs and unfromatted, but the result remains the same: ubuntu installer reports the entire drive as being vacant and available. something i didn't mention before: i went through a heck of a lot of trouble converting the drive from GPT to MBR., so it's a mbr drive.
[09:49] <reisio> peterrus: if it's GNOME's screensaver, that wouldn't surprise me
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> syedhamid: not had the issue, upgrading is fine but personaly I always clean install
[09:49] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  upgrades in any os CAN fail..
[09:49] <reisio> peterrus: if it's xscreensaver, my guess is it was never fully tested against the likes of compiz
[09:50] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  it depends on what the user has done to the OS in quesion a lot of the time.
[09:50] <reisio> peterrus: you should be able to tell the system that closing the lid means: log out & then suspend
[09:50] <reisio> peterrus: or even display a blank image fullscreen then suspend
[09:50] <peterrus> reisio, I think locking takes a bit to long, so it just goes ahead and suspends
[09:51] <peterrus> anyway, this could be classified as a bug
[09:51] <somsip> Skizu: oh, that's quite pretty isn't it. I'll enable that myself :)
[09:51] <reisio> peterrus: yes, certainly
[09:51] <dr_willis> it suspends as its shutting down ;_
[09:51] <syedhamid> how can i make a backup of /home/ the fastest way if i have 4gb
[09:51] <dr_willis> :)
[09:51] <Zorky> Anyone here who can help me with a tweak on gnome screensaver or xscreensaver, making it so it logs the user off when it activates?
[09:51] <reisio> syedhamid: to where?
[09:51] <nowayride> syedhamid: Also, that's why partitioning is a good idea too. Separate home = worst case you're only having to reinstall your programs/some settings. Good thing about linux, you can keep most of the system and only reinstall the base
[09:51] <dr_willis> syedhamid:  copy all your files somewhere off line. or to your ubuntu one accouint.
[09:51] <Skizu> somsip: Lol well it's readable
[09:51] <peterrus> syedhamid, I have had multiple failed upgrades, seen alot of other people where upgrades failed, it just happens, if you don't backup your system, you are just waiting for shit to happen. Making backups sucks, sure, but they can save you a lot of stress. You could have a look at commercial solutions such as Acronis True Image Home, really  makes it a painless experience, but you will need a external hdd with at least the size of you
[09:51] <peterrus> r internal hdd I suppose
[09:51] <FloodBot1> peterrus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <peterrus> lol
[09:52] <reisio> well, no, separate /home worst case you still lose it all
[09:52] <syedhamid> to my USB
[09:52] <Skizu> So rewrite appears to be enabled as it's showing in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled but I can't seem to get it to work anyone got ideas why I'm still hitting a 404?
[09:52] <somsip> Skizu: yeah. I always tail a log on a different monitor, but it's worth enabling that I think :)
[09:52] <reisio> syedhamid: rsync -av /home/foo/ /media/whateverusb/
[09:52] <Zorky> Anyone who can help me with screensavers in ubuntu?
[09:52] <somsip> Skizu: in your virtual host, amke sure you AllowOverride to make .htaccess accessible
[09:52] <peterrus> Zorky, I think ubuntu questions would be a good place for that
[09:52] <nowayride> Skizu: syntax right? is it overridden somewhere?
[09:53] <Skizu> somsip: In php.ini?
[09:53] <syedhamid> reisio: is that the fastest way? and will my /home/ will be deleted after I copied it to my USB?
[09:53] <Zorky> peterrus:  irc chan?
[09:53] <peterrus> reisio, syedhamid rsync -ravuh --progress /home/foo /media/whateverusb ;)
[09:53] <reisio> syedhamid: might be faster with just -a instead of -v
[09:53] <somsip> Skizu: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default if you have no other vhosts setup yet
[09:53] <reisio> syedhamid: just copies, doesn't delete
[09:54] <peterrus> Zorky, it's a site, this question is so localized, you really shouldn't expect anyone here to answer it, at this exact moment
[09:54] <nowayride> reisio: how does having a separate /home partition mean losing it in a new install? You can select to preserve it
[09:54] <syedhamid> peterurs: what does "uh" mean?
[09:54] <syedhamid> peterrus* haha
[09:54] <Skizu> So it says allow override none I need to make it true?
[09:54] <peterrus> syedhamid, update and human
[09:54] <peterrus> so update files already there
[09:54] <peterrus> and human is to get human readable filesizes
[09:54] <syedhamid> and "h"?
[09:54] <somsip> Skizu: Change None to All (ok on local dev server)
[09:54] <peterrus> progress to see the progress
[09:54] <reisio> nowayride: ah, thought we were talking about failures :)
[09:54] <Zorky> peterrus:  ohh. : /
[09:54] <peterrus> r for recursive which means: also copy all subfolders
[09:54] <syedhamid> i am confused by that "h" thing still
[09:55] <peterrus> it is the perfect backup command, write it down, it will save lives
[09:55] <nowayride> Well an install failure still shouldn't be touching partitions marked to preserve
[09:55] <reisio> -r is probably redundant to -a
[09:55] <somsip> Skizu: restart apache again
[09:55] <reisio> -u is redundant to a fresh dir
[09:55] <reisio> -h is redundant to not wanting -v to speed it up
[09:55] <reisio> rsync -a foo/ bar/
[09:55] <iycv> hello everyone, I download the eclipse.tar.gz, and I extract it in ~/eclipse,  can anyone tell me How to completely uninstall eclipse?
[09:55] <peterrus> reisio, -h is for human readable
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> i use rsync for my backups in a nightly cron task
[09:55] <peterrus> file zises
[09:55] <reisio> iycv: rm?
[09:55] <peterrus> sizes*
[09:55] <mohamedn3na3a> hey guys can i reinstall ubuntu without having to format my hard disk allover again?
[09:55] <reisio> peterrus: nothing to read if you want it to go faster by outputting nothing
[09:56] <peterrus> reisio, true, but I like to keep an eye on things when doing it manually
[09:56] <reisio> MonkeyDust: not rdiff-backup? :)
[09:56] <peterrus> in cronjobs, thats an entirely other story ;)
[09:56] <Skizu> somsip: we have success
[09:56] <reisio> mohamedn3na3a: kinda
[09:56] <rigo88> hi
[09:56] <iycv> nreisio: rm doesn't work
[09:56] <somsip> Skizu: good
[09:56] <reisio> peterrus: and I, but he saked for faster :p
[09:56] <reisio> rigo88: hi
[09:56] <mohamedn3na3a> can u tell me how?
[09:56] <reisio> iycv: why not?
[09:56] <rigo88> reisio: hi here too :)
[09:56] <reisio> mohamedn3na3a: you've got one partition?
[09:56] <syedhamid> reisio: why did you told me to put "v" out of the way?
[09:57] <mohamedn3na3a> yea
[09:57] <peterrus> reisio, yes, but seeing that he isn't exactly an ubuntupro, I though a little verbosity goes a long way xD
[09:57] <rigo88> now im really not sure that my catalyst 13.04 is installed well..
[09:57] <iycv> I can't find the .eclipse/ fold
[09:57] <rigo88> i mean 13.4
[09:57] <skeuomorf> I am trying to connect using SSH to a remote server but it doesn't show me anything, the process isn't terminated neither connected, however connecting using putty through SSH works fine
[09:58] <peterrus> syedhamid, -v shows you which file it is copying, removing -v copys the files faster, but then you don't know what it is doing
[09:58] <peterrus> I always use -v when doing a manual backup, like you are doing
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> reisio  let me explore that :)
[09:58] <nowayride> skeuomorf: ssh -vvv and check the last line it hangs at... and are these from the same IP?
[09:58] <syedhamid> peterrus: will my terminal be corrupted?
[09:58] <somsip> skeuomorf: ssh -vvv will give you lots of extra info
[09:58] <nowayride> You could be firewalled or blocked otherwise
[09:58] <peterrus> syedhamid, what
[09:58] <syedhamid>  /home/ is like 87GB
[09:58] <skeuomorf> nowayride: same ip yes, will ssh -vvv now
[09:58] <syedhamid> with 384719471931 files
[09:58] <peterrus> syedhamid, no problem, but it will not fit on a 4gb usb stick xD
[09:59] <nowayride> Do you use .ssh/config?
[09:59] <syedhamid> peterrus: it'll take hours, and  my terminal will stop? like, it'll get tired or something
[09:59] <syedhamid> this happened to me a couple of times
[09:59] <peterrus> syedhamid, no, your terminal uses a great amount of coke, it can go on for days without stopping
[09:59] <peterrus> really
[10:00] <syedhamid> and peterrus: if I copy 50GB to my USB, and the rest 30GB to some other USB, is this possible?
[10:00] <Warsmokey> can someone pm me that has knowledge of ubuntu server and connecting to other computers please
[10:00] <skeuomorf> nowayride: no
[10:00] <syedhamid> how can I do that?
[10:00] <peterrus> if your buffer gets full (the text you can scroll back to in your terminal) it will just discard old lines, so no problem at all
[10:00] <nowayride> Warsmokey: how are you wanting to connect?
[10:00] <peterrus> syedhamid, yes then you would use rsync -blaa /home/foo/porn /media/usb-for-porn/
[10:00] <Skizu> somsip: thanks for your help
[10:00] <nowayride> Or at least a tldr so you don't get a flood of PMs of "Oh, I don't know"
[10:00] <syedhamid> what does -blaa mean
[10:01] <peterrus> and rsync -blaa /home/foo/otherstuff /media/usb-for-the-rest
[10:01] <somsip> Skizu: your welcome. Come back and help someone else when you get chance :)
[10:01] <syedhamid> and yes peterrus, my /home/ mainly consists of asian trap porn
[10:01] <peterrus> syedhamid, i dont feel like typing it all agaiin
[10:01] <somsip> *you'
[10:01] <peterrus> syedhamid, lol
[10:01] <Skizu> somsip: When I get the skill you mean haha
[10:01] <somsip> Skizu: :)
[10:01] <syedhamid> peterrus: now that you said that P word, i must do my duty as a dude.
[10:02] <syedhamid> beatin' da thing
[10:02] <syedhamid> brb
[10:02] <peterrus> please keep that to yourself, and all will be fine
[10:02] <Warsmokey> @nowayride so i have a 2800 dell raid 5 mounted with ubuntu server, i'm trying to connect 4 windows 7 computers to access the data only on the server but i'm having a hard time for even one to connect to it
[10:02] <syedhamid> lol peterrus xD
[10:02] <somsip> !tmi | syedhamid
[10:02] <syedhamid> peterrus: have you tried using rsync yet?
[10:02] <peterrus> syedhamid, I use it all the time
[10:02] <syedhamid> peterrus: is grsync a good option too?
[10:02] <peterrus> makes two automatic backups every week
[10:03] <nowayride> Warsmokey: what protocol are you trying to connect with? Are you doing this just as a backup or looking for a persistent connection?
[10:03] <rigo88> i had to download from amd.com manually the 13.4 cause if i did apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade on a fresh 12.04 x64 server, than after reboot apt-get install fglrx (than lxde etc... and reboot) the sys freezed at boot..
[10:03] <Skizu> somsip: May need your help some more ;)
[10:03] <reisio> syedhamid: rsync is resumable, if it's interrupted just re-run the same command
[10:03] <nowayride> You can use scp (like winscp) for one offs
[10:03] <somsip> Skizu: you can ask...
[10:03] <peterrus> syedhamid, never used grsync, I dont like GUI programs for terminal programs, they often obscure too much functionality I am looking for
[10:03] <skeuomorf> nowayride: am I using ssh correctly? ssh user@server:port
[10:03] <reisio> syedhamid: rsync -a /home/foo/ /media/path/to/emptydir/on/usb/
[10:03] <Warsmokey> @nowayride a persistent connection i
[10:03] <Skizu> somsip: php5.4+ on my box rather than the 5.3.10 I seem to be getting
[10:03] <somsip> skeuomorf: ssh -p port user@remote
[10:04] <peterrus> reisio, syedhamid that is exactly why it is so handy, just re-run the command if something fails, and you are back on track
[10:04] <syedhamid> reisio: how can I make rsync make backups every week?
[10:04] <skeuomorf> somsip: thanks, that was the problem, me writing the wrong command, fail!
[10:04] <anev> syedhamid: cronjob
[10:04] <peterrus> syedhamid, use cron, the internet knows all about it. But first make sure you completely understand rsync of you will get nowhere in life
[10:04] <somsip> Skizu: you need a PPA. http://is.gd/f6m78g
[10:05] <somsip> skeuomorf: np
[10:05] <skeuomorf> thanks somsip nowayride for the great help
[10:05] <nowayride> NP
[10:05] <reisio> syedhamid: do you want 1:1 backups, or cumulative (each week new things you added to your filesystem are added to the backup)?
[10:06] <blazemore> Out of interest, is there an "official" method for creating a bootable Ubuntu liveUSB from Windows? I always just use unetbootin or lili
[10:06] <reisio> the former only protects you from hardware/software catastrophes, the latter protects you from yourself and other users
[10:06] <peterrus> blazemore, it is the 'official' way
[10:06] <Skizu> somsip: Looks dangerous haha, it is fine to update to 5.4 without issue?
[10:06] <syedhamid> yes reisio
[10:06] <peterrus> blazemore, unetbootin at least
[10:06] <reisio> blazemore: I think help.ubuntu.com has pendrive linux listed
[10:06] <blazemore> peterrus: I see a lot of other tools like the Suse image writer being used too
[10:06] <reisio> blazemore: dd is going to be the most reliable, but it's also the most dangerous and least simple for many :p
[10:07] <somsip> Skizu: it's on my todo list for my production servers. I believe care is needed... Still not sure whether to wait for 14.04 or stay on 12.04 and use a PPA...
[10:07] <reisio> syedhamid: yes? You have to pick one :p
[10:07] <syedhamid> reisio: oh hell no
[10:07] <reisio> syedhamid: ...wha?
[10:07] <syedhamid> reisio: last time I used dd, my system cracked up
[10:07] <reisio> heheh
[10:07] <reisio> well that wasn't to you anyways
[10:07] <somsip> Skizu: on stay on 5.3 on 12.04
[10:07] <peterrus> syedhamid, http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[10:07] <nowayride> blazemore: unibersal usb installer has always done well for making bootable usb drives
[10:07] <peterrus> have a read
[10:07] <Skizu> 14.04 is out?
[10:08] <somsip> Skizu: in about 8 months
[10:08] <blazemore> Skizu: It's called 14.04 because it'll be released in April 2014
[10:08] <blazemore> Skizu: We have to have 13.10 first anyway
[10:08] <syedhamid> anyways guys, i have a exam tomorrow
[10:08] <soumya_> s
[10:08] <skeuomorf> somsip: say I want to copy .vimrc from local server to remote, this is the way to do it? scp ~/.vimrc user@remote -p port
[10:08] <nowayride> Next couple of releases are going to be interesting
[10:08] <syedhamid> and yes, peterrus & reisio: how can I disable network-manager temporaily?
[10:08] <somsip> skeuomorf: weirdly, scp uses -P for port
[10:09] <Skizu> blazemore: Oh I see
[10:09] <nowayride> skeuomorf: scp ~/.vimrc user@remote:/path/to/wherever -p port
[10:09] <somsip> skeuomorf: so scp -P port .vimrc user@remote: (to put it in users home)
[10:09] <skeuomorf> somsip, weird yes :)
[10:09] <skeuomorf> aha
[10:09] <Skizu> Problem is this is only a local one and the people who choose about live probably won't let me have php5.4+ but I'm using traits and such and would need to spend weeks to recode lol
[10:10] <syedhamid> how can I disable network-manager....temporarily
[10:10] <yolandre> blazemore, try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[10:10] <somsip> Skizu: which is why my local dev is 12.04 on 5.3 so I'm not tempted by newer shinier things offer by 5.4 (though I want them...)
[10:11] <reisio> syedhamid: right click on its icon?
[10:11] <mohamedn3na3a> my internet connection keeps disconnecting periodically and i have to reset the network manager anyone knows what's wrong?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> mohamedn3na3a  wifi?
[10:11] <mohamedn3na3a> yeah
[10:11] <Skizu> somsip: Use traits, makes a nice secure data collection object quite possible without using the SPL things, well you can still use a SPL behind it
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> mohamedn3na3a: when it drops, run:   dmesg | tail -n 15     and read the screen
[10:11] <syedhamid> reisio: that doesnt work
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> mohamedn3na3a: it may give clues
[10:12] <syedhamid> reisio: im trying to use gnome-ppp but this damn network-manager is getting in my way
[10:12] <mohamedn3na3a> okay :)
[10:12] <somsip> Skizu: I have no wish to fall into the position you are in.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | mohamedn3na3a it's your local wireless connection, not internet
[10:13] <Longinus> niech ktoś kurwa de mi opa
[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:15] <Skizu> somsip: Yeah, it's unfortunate that I now need to recode a lot of stuff due to a shadow of lies from the server admins
[10:16] <Skizu> In which I now need to pass a single object through multiple objects to collect data :s super messy
[10:16] <somsip> Skizu: Frustrating in one way, but better to code within the limitations of your production servers. But we are off support and into general chat now, so time to stop
[10:18] <Skizu> somsip: Indeed, well thanks and cya
[10:18] <somsip> Skizu: good luck :)
[10:18] <Skizu> somsip: Yeah not to recode a few weeks of work haha!!
[10:19] <Guest44765> How do I switch to a different network server?  I'm new to this chat
[10:20] <Guest44765> Can anyone answer my question?
[10:20] <somsip> !patience | Guest44765
[10:20] <z8z> Guest44765: what do you mean?
[10:21] <Guest44765> I'm trying to join a different network that I used to go to and an trying Smuxi on Ubuntu for the first time
[10:22] <yolandre> Sa]]
[10:22] <yolandre> same here...
[10:22] <Guest44765> I usually use Windows but decided to try this out as an alternative
[10:25] <nowayride> You mean IRC network?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest44765: https://www.smuxi.org/page/ServerHowTo
[10:25] <Guest44765> yes
[10:27] <BluesKaj> uhm , there's irc on windows too
[10:27] <Guest44765> Thanks ActionParsnip...will check it out
[10:32] <aneesh_> one quick question  will less space on root folder affects the mysql start process?
[10:33] <ikonia> aneesh_: in what way ?
[10:33] <ikonia> aneesh_: there is space needed for the socket and log files, if this is hanging off the root directory and you have no space free, it won't start
[10:34] <aneesh_> my root folder has only 77m space left  . Is that problem because of that mysq is not running?
[10:34] <somsip> aneesh_: check /var/log/mysql/error.log in case you have any information in there
[10:35] <ikonia> aneesh_: read what I just said
[10:38] <CaneToad> I've got a situation where system with nvidia driver boots up with external monitor 1920x1080, but running totem movie player even without any arguments makes the system drop the external monitor resolution down to 1024x768....odd thing is that I have three VGA cables here, and it does it with 2 of them, but 1 of them works fine. I guess it boils down to VGA cables not having the data line that lets the monitor report its res
[10:42] <esing> hi Iam installing ubuntu and Iam not sure what I should set as 'Device for boot loader installation'. /dev/sda  or /dev/sda1 ?
[10:43] <cfhowlett> esing, by default /dev/sda
[10:44] <sec_> how run 12 in virtualbox?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> sec_: 12 what? apples?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> sec_, it's runs fine.
[10:44] <sec_> ubuntu-12
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sec_: there is no 'ubuntu-12'
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sec_: there is Ubuntu 12.04   and Ubuntu 12.10
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> sec_: 'ubuntu-12' doesn't exist
[10:45] <sec_> ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso this is
[10:46] <DJones> sec_: Install virtualbox, start virtualbox, install UBuntu 12.04/12.10 in virtualbox, thats all there is to it
[10:46] <sec_> sorry i can't remember correct name
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sec_: then its Ubuntu 12.04
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> sec_: it will run fine, use Unity2D for extra performance
[10:47] <sec_> This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
[10:47] <sec_> pae
[10:47] <sec_> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sec_: in future, please type FULL descriptions of the issue. Saves a lot of time
[10:47] <sec_> i got this error
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !details|sec_,   for precision help, precision details are needed
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> sec_: what CPU are you using in your host?
[10:48] <sec_> it's Pentium B980
[10:48] <esing> cfhowlett Maybe I need to specifically set it to /dev/sda1 if I have windows boot loader already in /dev/sda1 (I want to dual boot ubuntu/windows 8)
[10:48] <cfhowlett> sec_, pentium?  probably find you'll get better results with xubuntu or lubuntu
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> !pae | sec_
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> sec_: do you have pae enabled in the guest?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> esing, you can put it where you want, just need to make sure the bios looks in the right place on booting up.
[10:49] <sec_> ActionParsnip: no. It's booting with that pae enabled
[10:50] <nowayride> sec_: that might not have virtualization, if it does make sure it's enabled in BIOS
[10:50] <esing> cfhowlett Hm, I thought the boot loader always have to be in sda1?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> sec_: so under the settings for the virtual PC, system -> processor tab. YOu have PAE enabled there?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sec_: yes?
[10:51] <ThothCastel> what does this do?
[10:51] <ThothCastel> awk 'BEGIN {FS=OFS="|"}{$1=strftime("%c",$1)} {print}'
[10:51] <sec_> ActionParsnip: yes i enable PAE now
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sec_: didnt think to check that?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: ask in #bash too
[10:52] <sec_> ActionParsnip: No. Sorry i know ubuntu has good support. so go to here :)
[10:52] <ThothCastel> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[10:52] <sec_> thanks you :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sec_: all better?
[10:52] <sec_> ActionParsnip: yes it is better now
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sec_: a more accurate channel would have been #vbox
[10:54] <sec_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i think i should only use console :(
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> sec_: you'll learn
[10:54] <sec_> ActionParsnip: ubuntu give me to prompt now
[10:55] <sec_> ActionParsnip: exist pre-installed ubuntu machine for vbox, is it?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> sec_: no ide
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> *idea
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> sec_: try in #vbox
[10:56] <sec_> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:57] <carles> Hi - I'm investigating this error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/numbertext/+bug/1207494 . Libreoffice 4.1 from www.libreoffice.org worked but not from PPA
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !ppa|carles
[10:58] <BWorld> Is there an easy way to recover only database files using photorec? All of the MYI files are renamed into numeric format so I can never re-assemble the database this way, are there tools for this situation here?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> carles: contact the PPA maintainer, we can only support package versions from the Ubuntu repos
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> BWorld  photorec > File Options
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: why is there not a backup?
[11:01] <carles> understood, checking the details - thanks :-) (will also check newer Ubuntu versions just in case)
[11:01] <BWorld> Thanks MonkeyDust
[11:01] <BWorld> ecause it was running on my local machine
[11:02] <BWorld> It was first setup as a temporary solution (we were using Mantis) and never migrated the database to server
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: should still be backed up, even if its local
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: if its important, back it up
[11:04] <BWorld> Yes ofcourse, it was stupid
[11:04] <BWorld> But now, I have found back all .MYI files I guess
[11:04] <BWorld> But all filenames are malformed
[11:05] <BWorld> Someone aware of some program that can restore this?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: people love leaning the value of backup the hard way
[11:06] <BWorld> :(
[11:06] <Hawkerz> i'm sure such a program could be written, but having never heard of either photorec or an myi file I'm afraid I can't help
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: foremost may do it
[11:07] <BWorld> Thanks ActionParsnip I will google it and try to figure it out
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: you will need a partition of equal or larger size than the partition and you will restore any and all files, you will use file name and directory structure but the files may be retrieved
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> BWorld: if the area that files were stored on has been written to since, then the data is gone
[11:08] <esing> I justed finished the installation of ubuntu and the system booted into grub2 rescue prompt. I managed to boot into ubuntu by issuing these commands: set root=(hd1,gpt6)  and then: linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro  and then: initrd /initrd.img  and then boot. Iam now in ubuntu's desktop. What should I do now to have the normal boot menu and not grub's rescue prompt when I startup the system?
[11:08] <Hawkerz> is there actually data missing? or has it just been moved around?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> esing, is this a wubi installation?
[11:09] <esing> cfhowlett No, it's the normal ubuntu live cd installation
[11:09] <esing> (Installed in efi mode)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> esing: sudo update-grub     should do it
[11:10] <Hawkerz> has that been causing a lot of issues?
[11:10] <Hawkerz> EFI, that is
[11:10] <VampiricPadraig> Hey guys. Is there any good Mail Server programs out there that have Webmail functionality. Looking to set one up on a Ubuntu server?
[11:10] <VampiricPadraig> Jeez, I can't do proper grammer today...
[11:11] <Hawkerz> VampiricPadraig, I think every mail server can be accessed via webmail if you're willing to host both
[11:11] <BWorld> I hope it will end good ActionParsnip
[11:11] <esing> ActionParsnip I run sudo update-grub, rebooted, but again I am in grub's rescue prompt
[11:12] <Hawkerz> I would caution you that running a public mailserver tends to be more of a headache than it is worth, VampiricPadraig
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> VampiricPadraig  there's alos #ubuntu-server
[11:12] <VampiricPadraig> Hawkerz: Yup, I don't mind if it's 2 seperate programs.
[11:13] <VampiricPadraig> Hawkerz: Well, we are currently using Google Apps but we are going to have more than 10 people with emails and we are not willing to pay $50 per user per year
[11:13] <Hawkerz> well, you will be paying a lot more than that hosting your own mailserver
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> esing: is the OS fully updated?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: good to learn though
[11:14] <esing> ActionParsnip It's the newest ubuntu live cd, but I didn't issued sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade yet
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> esing: I would, there may be bug fixes in the newer versions
[11:14] <VampiricPadraig> Well, we have a few Linux staff members who could help setting it up :P
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> VampiricPadraig: squirrelmail has a web UI
[11:14] <Hawkerz> ActionParsnip, if you like spending your days trying to keep your servers clean it could be valuable
[11:15] <bfmt048> how to install ruby on rails in ubuntu 12.04
[11:15]  * blazemore runs public mail servers
[11:15] <esing> ActionParsnip I think that updating the packages won't help, because it should work now too
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> VampiricPadraig: http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/biztools/article.php/3932591/Top-5-Open-Source-Alternatives-to-Microsoft-Exchange.htm
[11:15] <Hawkerz> VampiricPadraig, so this is an enterprise thing?
[11:15] <Hawkerz> yeah, that was what I was looking for
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> esing: maybe, but it doesn't. There may be an updated Grub package which fixes issues
[11:15] <VampiricPadraig> Hawkerz: Small business-ish
[11:15] <VampiricPadraig> ActionParsnip: having a look at that link now. Thanks :)
[11:16] <blazemore> bfmt048: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-ruby-on-rails-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-with-rvm
[11:16] <Hawkerz> there are some decent options for the frontend anyway -- openxchange or whatever
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: given but if you are interested in managing Linux mail servers as a profession, its good to manage your own first, get used to it
[11:16] <Hawkerz> ActionParsnip, I just hope that is not an exclusive interest
[11:17] <Hawkerz> I have yet to meet someone who dreams of someday managing 'nix mailservers
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: we have one, its a mail relay
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Hawkerz: runs exim
[11:28] <Hawkerz> ActionParsnip, resolving exim-related issues is my least favorite thing to do
[11:30] <babinlonston1> were can i see shell script chatroom
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> babinlonston1: #bash   maybe
[11:31] <babinlonston1> ActionParsnip: got it Thanks
[11:32] <ionelmc> any idea why python3.2 in ubuntu 12.04 (from ubuntu's repos) doesn't link with libgcc_s.so.1 ?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> ionelmc  better ask in  ##python-friendly
[11:40] <ionelmc> sigh .... no one knows why python3 sucks on ubuntu ...
[11:46] <dragoonis> Any way to make my ubuntu laptop into a personal hotspot for my smartphone to connect to
[11:46] <dragoonis> ?
[11:48] <curatrix> dragoonis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode
[11:49] <ffio> dragoonis: yeah it's possible
[11:49] <ffio> ^
[11:49] <ffio> is it possible to change the loading ubuntu logo into something else ?
[11:50] <MikeH> Anyone here use rsyslog? I'm trying to get rsyslog to put messages from an IP phone itno a specific log file, however I can't quite figure out how. Currently messages end up in /var/log/messages
[11:50] <dragoonis> curatrix, awesome!
[11:50] <curatrix> ;)
[11:50] <MikeH> I see there is a directive like mail.* /var/log/mail.log - but no idea how to do that for the log entries I'm looking at
[11:52] <dragoonis> curatrix, looks like my macbook pro doesn't have the settings required to setup an AP
[11:53]  * curatrix mumbles something about certain fruit and vacuum cleaners
[12:07] <new-user> hello what does mean the "(source code)" on the repositories?
[12:08] <ANN-TechCoder> Source code is the code that is used to make the program :)
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> new-user  if you have programming skills, you can change the source code of any package to your needs
[12:09] <fjeeer> http://www.fjeer.me FREE SMS Worldwide!
[12:09]  * fjeeer http://www.fjeer.me
[12:09] <fjeeer> http://fjeer.me
[12:09] <FloodBot1> fjeeer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <reisio> something to do with Jake Gyllenhaal
[12:09] <new-user> ok. I am a home user, so I should uncheck all source code repos? what do you recommend?
[12:11] <ANN-TechCoder> Youcan leave it.
[12:11] <new-user> ok how can i know if a ppa is secure?
[12:12] <x-s4nd3r> new-user: google it.
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> new-user  avoid ppa's as much as possible
[12:12] <x-s4nd3r> MonkeyDust: what is a ppa? a repository?
[12:12] <DJones> !ppa | x-s4nd3r
[12:12] <x-s4nd3r> thank you for that djones
[12:13] <skago> why avoid ppa?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> skago  because it is not official and not screened for errors
[12:13] <ANN-TechCoder> I am trying to Install SDL 2 Library from PPA right now
[12:14] <skago> ok thanks
[12:18] <wingnut2626> does anyone know why 'eric' has a segmentation fault?
[12:18] <reisio> probably 'cause it's writ in C++
[12:18] <reisio> just a guess
[12:18] <ionelmc> wingnut2626: import faulthandler
[12:18] <ionelmc> eric is written in python no ?
[12:18] <reisio> oh it is
[12:18] <wingnut2626> what do you mean import faulthandler
[12:18] <reisio> but Qt isn't :)
[12:19] <ionelmc> wingnut2626: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/faulthandler/
[12:19] <esing> ActionParsnip I updated ubuntu, then again issued sudo update-grub, but grub2 still started up in rescue prompt. What could I else do?
[12:23] <OerHeks> esing perform a fsck on boot,  sudo touch /forcefsck
[12:26] <wingnut2626> I just ended up building eric from source (sourceforge) instead of getting it from the package manager
[12:26] <wingnut2626> it worked :)
[12:27] <Hawkerz> esing, do you have any logs?
[12:29] <teeceepee> anyone can find ubuntu 64-bit ami for eu-west-1a ?
[12:29] <esing> OerHeks The fsck test seems fine, it says the fs is clean
[12:29] <esing> Hawkerz Do you mean Grub / boot logs in /var/log?
[12:30] <Hawkerz> esing, sure, boot logs, syslog, dmesg
[12:30] <Hawkerz> anything helpful
[12:35] <cowbacon> hello everyone. If I upgrade the hardware in my ubuntu 13.04 server with a new harddrive and more RAM, can I just plug it into the machine and everything will work or do I have to recompile the kernel or something? reconfigure something?
[12:35] <x-s4nd3r> $4800 is divided among three brothers A, B and C, A receives three times as much as B and C receives twice as much as B. If B receives $x, form an equation in x.
[12:36] <Ben64> x-s4nd3r: this is not a homework help channel, this is for ubuntu support only
[12:36] <DJones> x-s4nd3r: Sounds like a question for a maths channel
[12:36] <Ben64> cowbacon: yes, it should "just work"
[12:36] <x-s4nd3r> djones, any maths related questions or homework-helping except #math
[12:36] <x-s4nd3r> maths related channel*
[12:36] <DJones> !alis | x-s4nd3r I've no idea,
[12:37] <cowbacon> Ben64: great thanks.
[12:39] <djlocus> hey guys 1 question
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  let's hear it
[12:40] <djlocus> i been group to group. trying to find a good program such as this. do you know how to work this thing. i never used it
[12:40] <cowbacon> djlocus: just ask the question in the channel, if anyone knows the answer they'll answer you
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  what program would that be?
[12:41] <esing2> Hawkerz,  boot.log : http://ix.io/7hd   syslog: http://ix.io/7he   dmesg: http://ix.io/7hf
[12:41] <Hawkerz> hmmk
[12:42] <djlocus> your on it right now.....
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  how do you know what programs I have opened?
[12:42] <djlocus> because were talking on the same one
[12:43] <djlocus> lol
[12:43] <djlocus> messaging that is
[12:43] <DJones> djlocus: You're not making any sense
[12:43] <Zoiaguyver> Think he means IRC
[12:43] <cowbacon> djlocus: I assume youre talking about IRC? are you asking about a good IRC client?
[12:43] <djlocus> yes
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  you mean an irc client?
[12:43] <djlocus> yes
[12:43] <cowbacon> djlocus: irssi is good, xchat is good
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  and what client are you using?
[12:43] <cowbacon> pidgin i think is good for IRC
[12:43] <djlocus> anonyous os
[12:44] <djlocus> IRC
[12:44] <cowbacon> djlocus: you can also use web chats, like webchat.freenode.net
[12:44] <djlocus> okay
[12:44] <DJones> djlocus: AnonymousOS isn't supported here you will need to find their own support network, this channel only deals with the official versions of Ubuntu
[12:45] <djlocus> oh.so yall couldnt help me?
[12:45] <Ben64> djlocus: and theres a good chance theres spyware in anonymousos
[12:45] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, if I add PPA to my list, how do I install stuff from it ?
[12:45] <djlocus> but i cant get backtrack or metasploit
[12:45] <Ben64> djlocus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous-OS
[12:45] <djlocus> and theres not i got it
[12:46] <Ben64> only ubuntu is supported here
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> djlocus  you're not in the right channel
[12:46] <djlocus> i dont have to leave do i? since pretty much. the commands are the same
[12:46] <camilo> I installed Ubuntu on an external hdd, when i switched to another PC and back it screwed up my graphics. Any typos as to how to fix? Only have cli atm
[12:47] <Hawkerz> esing, which sony laptop is it? lots of strange stuff in your logs
[12:47] <Meteorskies> hi there
[12:47] <Hawkerz> but I haven't seen efi boot logs at all yet
[12:47] <Ben64> djlocus: anonymousos is not supported here, and likely contains trojans, you really shouldn't use it, and its not the same
[12:47] <DJones> ANN-TechCoder: Installing from a ppa is exactly the same as installing from the official repositories once you've added the ppa
[12:48] <Meteorskies> is there somebody with a bit of shell script and sed knowledge who could help me?
[12:48] <djlocus> what should i use?
[12:48] <Ben64> djlocus: since this is #ubuntu, i'd suggest ubuntu
[12:48] <djlocus> a program or?
[12:49] <djlocus> you got a link?
[12:49] <Ben64> ubuntu.com ...
[12:49] <djlocus> ok
[12:49] <esing> Hawkerz sony vaio 13 pro
[12:50] <Hawkerz> hmmmk
[12:51] <djlocus> um.... the site is a computer site
[12:51] <Meteorskies> is there somebody with a bit of shell script and sed knowledge who could help me?
[12:52] <daftykins> Meteorskies: just ask the question.
[12:54] <Meteorskies> I want to replace a set of variable by another using arrays with sed
[12:54] <Meteorskies> basically, I use a for loop to replace them
[12:54] <Meteorskies> my sed line looks like this
[12:55] <Meteorskies> sed -i "s/$tag1/$tag2/g" "myfile"
[12:55] <Meteorskies> my problem is:
[12:55] <Meteorskies> the double quotes allow me to use variables, but the actual content of the variable are comprised of shell meta-characters such as slash
[12:56] <Meteorskies> I haven't managed to tell the shell to consider them as literal yet
[12:56] <Meteorskies> any idea?
[12:56] <Hawkerz> esing, what are your grub boot params?
[12:57] <Pici> Meteorskies: #bash might be more helpful and quicker than here.
[12:57] <Meteorskies> thanks, I'll head there
[12:58] <esing> Hawkerz root hd0,gpt6
[12:58] <esing> Hawkerz In the rescue prompt I had to enter hd1, maybe that's an issue?
[12:59] <esing> I found latter info  in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg
[12:59] <petapetapeta> I need to install Ubuntu-server to a ssd drive. I also need to set up two other harddrives in a hardware-RAID on the same server. How do I do this the easiest way?
[12:59] <Hawkerz> esing: could be, but more likely you have bigger probems :p
[12:59] <Hawkerz> esing, what instructions were you following to install?
[13:00] <bekks> petapetapeta: Do you have a hardware raid controller?
[13:00] <petapetapeta> bekks: Yes
[13:00] <bekks> petapetapeta: Which one, exactly?
[13:01] <esing> Hawkerz I followed no instructions. I just installed ubuntu with the live usb in efi mode into /dev/sda6 (root) and /dev/sda7 (home)
[13:01] <petapetapeta> bekks: Or it is currently being installed. I am not aware of the exact model. The only information I have is that it's a "2-Port Hardware-RAID Controller"
[13:01] <bekks> petapetapeta: Well, you need to know the exact make and model.
[13:02] <petapetapeta> bekks: Is it some configuration I need to set during the installation?
[13:02] <bekks> petapetapeta: You need to configure the raid controller, in the raid controller bios. And therefor, you need to know the exact make and model.
[13:03] <Twenty-three> hi guys, due to some issues between the latest kernel and my nvidia drivers i find myself using an older kernel, i am planning to delete the newest this way http://askubuntu.com/questions/106031/how-can-i-remove-new-kernel-versions-after-downgrading i just wonder if there is anything i should know about kernels before doing this and whether i can prevent the latest from being downloaded/installed
[13:03] <seg> Twenty-three: it'll warn you if you try to remove a kernel you're using. It's relatively safe. Make sure to dl the headers, too.
[13:03] <bekks> Twenty-three: Which version of "latest kernel" do you refer to, as well as which version of "my nvidia drivers"?
[13:04] <seg> Twenty-three: also, make sure to update your bootloader
[13:04] <petapetapeta> bekks: Okay I will try to figure it out. I am planning on keeping the OS on the sdd disk and put databases on the RAID disks
[13:05] <petapetapeta> Is that an acceptable approach?
[13:05] <esing> Hawkerz Didn't help to change grub.cfg from hd0,gpt6 to hd1,gpt6 (it is still starting in rescue prompt)
[13:05] <Twenty-three> bekks, the kernel that is giving me issues is "linux-headers-3.8.0-27" and the nvidia drivers i use are 304.88
[13:05] <x-s4nd3r> How can I change the bootlogo on Ubuntu?
[13:05] <bekks> petapetapeta: For a database server, the SSD is just wasting resources.
[13:06] <petapetapeta> bekks: It's both a database and application server
[13:06] <Twenty-three> seg, bekks, alternatively, is there a way to boot using 3.8.0-19 by default?
[13:06] <Hawkerz> esing, it looks like ubuntu can't find a partition it likes to boot from
[13:06] <bekks> petapetapeta: As long as it is a server, using an SSD is wasting resources.
[13:07] <esing> Hawkerz Yep, that looks like it
[13:07] <x-s4nd3r> how can i change the bootlogo on Ubuntu?
[13:07] <philinux> x-s4nd3r: that would be the plymouth package and themes. You need to research ubuntu plymouth themes
[13:07] <petapetapeta> bekks: Cool :) I will strip that away then. So is it okay to just run it from two drives in RAID?
[13:07] <esing> Hawkerz I found in /boot/grub/grub.cfg more hd0,gpt6 instead of hd1,gpt6, should I try to change them all to hd1 and backup the grub.cfg before?
[13:07] <x-s4nd3r> philinux: where is the bootlogo file in ubuntu?
[13:08] <bekks> petapetapeta: If you really have a true (no fake-raid) RAID controller, then you are fine.
[13:08] <philinux> x-s4nd3r: it's not as simple as that you need to change the plymouth theme
[13:08] <purezen> Hey guys..! I have been using the Dell Vostro 5460 lately.. and it comes pre-installed with Ubuntu 12.04 (with few customizations done as well).. However, an issue of low audio output is plaguing Linux users on the same... I have also filed a bug on Launchpad.. Is there someplace where I can help/get help..? Thanks..!
[13:08] <Hawkerz> esing, i'm pretty sure you have a sata drive no?
[13:08] <petapetapeta> bekks: I hope that it's gonna be a true RAID controller then ;)
[13:10] <philinux> !plymouth
[13:10] <philinux> x-s^^^
[13:10] <esing> Hawkerz Iam not sure
[13:10] <esing> Hawkerz I think it is PCI-E
[13:10] <esing> Hawkerz "128GB PCIe SSD drive"
[13:10] <esing> It's inbuilt, one can't unplug it
[13:11] <Hawkerz> /boot/grub/grub.cfg might shed some light
[13:11] <bekks> esing: Of course you can unplug it then. :)
[13:12] <Hawkerz> looks like at the very least you need a few extra boot parameters
[13:12] <iceroot_> can you recommend a program which will do offline translation? would be very nice if i can bring up the program with a shortcut and type in my word. after that i can hide the program again with a shortcut
[13:12] <Cyrax> I found a command called write where i can write to a user.. Do the user need to b on same computer,same room or same network? or can user b anywhere no matter what network?
[13:12] <esing2> Hawkerz,  http://ix.io/7hg
[13:13] <petapetapeta> bekks: Btw. What makes you say that SSD in a server is wasting resources?
[13:14] <petapetapeta> low amount of write cycles?
[13:14] <seg> petapetapeta: ssds are overkill on servers until disk caching becomes a problem. most servers want an abundance of ram. its not a waste if performance is your number one priority, but it's usually overkill
[13:15] <seg> petapetapeta: it's really dependant on server task though
[13:15] <Cyrax> Is that possible?
[13:16] <compdoc> petapetapeta, I run kvm on my servers, and an ssd is an excellent drive to run the VMs from
[13:16] <petapetapeta> seg: yeah that makes sense. But I guess that since we need to store a large amount of data, SSD isn't the most viable choice
[13:17] <seg> Cyrax: write is referring to ttys I believe, so that'd be same computer. try typing man write
[13:17] <Hawkerz> esing2: got access to a web browser?
[13:17] <ffio> how can i create my own ppa ?
[13:18] <petapetapeta> compdoc: But I guess it depends on what you would be using the VMs for right?
[13:19] <compdoc> petapetapeta, doesnt matter - a fast drive works best
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: or a faster interface :)
[13:19] <seg> petapetapeta: He's right, spinning platters just happen to be cheaper, so they make sense in some places
[13:19] <petapetapeta> compdoc: Unless you need to store an amount of data which results in it not being a viable option anymore due to pricing
[13:20] <camilo> Is there a folder that would contain my old graphics drivers? Need to reinstall one
[13:20] <Hawkerz> esing, you need to add a kernel boot parameter to /etc/default/grub - then you need to regenerate the grub config
[13:20] <Hawkerz> the parameter is: "libata.force=noncq"
[13:20] <Cyrax> so what do I need to do to b able to write via terminal to someone else without b on same computer or network?
[13:21] <seg> petapetapeta: There are varied circumstances, too. You could run the server itself from a VM on an SSD, but have that vm utilizing mass storage elsewhere. on a budget just use the SSDs where random file seek time matters most
[13:21] <bekks> Cyrax: thats not possible.
[13:21] <Cyrax> ok.. thanks :D
[13:21] <seg> Cyrax: IRC :D
[13:21] <petapetapeta> compdoc: You could send a mail
[13:21] <petapetapeta> whoops. THat was for Cyrax
[13:21] <esing> Hawkerz Do you mean I should add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash libata.force=noncq"
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: compdoc: even faster is tempfs, all runs in RAM then, no slow HDD storage in any form
[13:21] <Cyrax> i could send mail via terminal? how?
[13:21] <Hawkerz> yes
[13:22] <linuxearth> is ubuntu easy to use i want to learn linux?
[13:22] <bekks> Cyrax: You need to setup a mailserver first, and then use the mail command or a command line mail application.
[13:22] <Hawkerz> esing, that's what this guy says and he had your laptop: http://elouisyoung.blogspot.com/2013/07/configuring-2013-sony-vaio-pro-13-with.html
[13:22] <petapetapeta> seg: Yeah it's something like that I was considering. But I am not sure how efficient that would be
[13:23] <esing> Hawkerz I regenerated the grub config with: sudo update-grub
[13:23] <Hawkerz> esing, I suppose you probably need to have EFI enabled in the bios but you already do so that shouldn't be an issue
[13:23] <linuxearth> is ubuntu easy to use i want to learn linux?
[13:23] <Cyrax> Any link how i set up mail server? only need to give me a link.. thats all
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linuxearth: its one of the easiest
[13:23] <Hawkerz> esing, just check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and make sure it survived
[13:23] <linuxearth> ActionParsnip: oh i see
[13:23] <linuxearth> and learning linux too?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> linuxearth: depends on mentality and attitude etc. Have a try. It is free
[13:23] <linuxearth> i just come brb
[13:23] <petapetapeta> ActionParsnip: That sounds a bit too expensive :P
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: how? Ram is stuidly cheap :)
[13:25] <petapetapeta> ActionParsnip: Depends on what you compare it with ;)
[13:25] <Twenty-three> seg, bekks, if i were to mess up the deletion of my linux-headers, is there a chance it could be irreparable?
[13:25] <seg> Twenty-three: video drivers wont install
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: oh for sure
[13:25] <esing> Hawkerz Hm, when I reboot the system still starts up in grub's rescue prompt
[13:25] <bekks> Twenty-three: Why do you remove linux-headers at all?
[13:25] <seg> Twenty-three: they depend on the headers
[13:25] <seg> Twenty-three: the nvidia ones you were mentioning specifically I mean
[13:25] <Twenty-three> noted,
[13:26] <Hawkerz> esing, i didn't ask before, but did you actually install anything?
[13:26] <Hawkerz> or has it just been dying?
[13:26] <Twenty-three> bekks: issues with my nvidia drivers so i'm going back to a previous version
[13:26] <seg> Twenty-three: if you revert to the nouveau drivers I dont believe they need the headers. Might be a good option til you figure out your problems
[13:26] <bekks> Twenty-three: To a previous version of what?
[13:27] <Twenty-three> bekks: i am switching from linux-headers-3.8.0-27 to linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[13:27] <esing> Hawkerz No, the linux installation is new, I didn't install anything on it
[13:27] <bekks> Twenty-three: You cant switch headers without switching the kernel.
[13:27] <Hawkerz> esing, but there -is- a linux installation?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: encoding video etc flys if you do it in tempfs. I keep my browser cache in tempfs to save having to write the data to my hdd, also speeds up reuse
[13:27] <Hawkerz> as in, you were able to install but it just doesn't boot?
[13:27] <Hawkerz> or it won't even boot the live usb
[13:28] <k1l_> Twenty-three: the headers must be the same as the kernel.
[13:28] <esing> Hawkerz It came with Windows 8, then I resized the Windows8 gpt partition, then I created the linux partitions and then I installed linux into /dev/sda6
[13:28] <Twenty-three> bekks: i had assumed they were about the same thing, how would i go about it then?
[13:28] <MonkeyDu1t> Twenty-three  what do you want to achieve? maybe there's a different way
[13:28] <petapetapeta> seg: Would it be beneficial for me to use the SSD for the OS installation and web application, and the RAIDED disks for storing most of the data and handling data retrieval
[13:28] <esing> Hawkerz The live cd boots fine
[13:28] <seg> petapetapeta: ideally, all SSD. if you're saving money, save the SSD for the stuff that is critical to access fast
[13:28] <bekks> petapetapeta: No. Using an SSD in a server is wasting resources.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> petapetapeta: sounds like a plan
[13:28] <nevyn> petapetapeta: is dmcache in a release these days?
[13:29] <seg> petapetapeta: ideally no disk at all and all RAM, really
[13:29] <hagrid> can i ask for help here?
[13:29] <esing> Hawkerz And I can boot into the installed linux desktop when I issue: set root=(hd1,gpt6)  and then: linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro  and then: initrd /initrd.img  and then boot.
[13:29] <esing> (When Iam in the grub rescue prompt)
[13:29] <seg> petapetapeta: but we're not all made of cash haha
[13:29] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  yes
[13:29] <Twenty-three> MonkeyDu1t: the 3.8.0-27 caused issues with my nvidia drivers (would display the lowest resolution, only one screen and the launcher was gone, troubleshooting suggested that opengl failed to open but i couldn't really fix anything
[13:29] <Hawkerz> esing, ohhh....now that is interesting...
[13:29] <Hawkerz> and it boots fine?
[13:30] <esing> Yes
[13:30] <Twenty-three> MonkeyDu1t: trying linux-headers-3.8.0-19 worked fine so i guess i'll just stick to it
[13:30] <Hawkerz> hm
[13:30] <hagrid> @MonkeyDult , my prolem is that I cannot get past the purple splash(or booting) screen when I load ubuntu 12.04.2
[13:30] <petapetapeta> nevyn: huh?
[13:30] <nevyn> dmcache
[13:30] <esing> Hawkerz Maybe I should try to modify all hd0/gpt6 in grub.cfg to hd1/gpt6
[13:30] <nevyn> you use the ssd to accelerate writes to the raid
[13:31] <petapetapeta> Ahh haven't heard about that :)
[13:31] <hagrid> @Monkeydult, I have tried the usual methods of 'nomodeset' and 'acpi'.
[13:31] <nevyn> so instead of choosing badly what you put on the ssd and what you put on the spinning rust you let the computer just work it out dynamically
[13:31] <hagrid> MonkeyDult , my prolem is that I cannot get past the purple splash(or booting) screen when I load ubuntu 12.04.2
[13:31] <petapetapeta> seg: All SSD might be a bit too expensive. Also it would require me to set up a f-load of SSD disks to store all the data :D
[13:31] <hagrid> Monkeydult, I have tried the usual methods of 'nomodeset' and 'acpi'
[13:32] <petapetapeta> nevyn: uhh that sounds smart!
[13:32] <Hawkerz> esing, it's worth a try at this point -- efi may not be recognizing the install properly (it doesn't appear to be)
[13:32] <Hawkerz> esing, are you using 13.10?
[13:32] <esing> I give it a shot
[13:32] <esing> Yes
[13:32] <nevyn> petapetapeta: so everything is on the raid (high reliability) but the things you're accessing right now are hot in the ssd as a cache
[13:33] <seg> petapetapeta: I really don't even know what you're trying to host. In reality, if I were hosting a NAS or something, I wouldn't consider SSDs personally. Hell, most SSD things id consider I would rather just do with RAM on a server.
[13:33] <petapetapeta> nevyn: That sounds exactly what I want
[13:33] <hagrid> MonkeyDult: are you there?
[13:33] <nevyn> but I think you need a newer kernel than what's in  13.04
[13:33] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  maybe it's a videocard issue?
[13:34] <hagrid> MonkeyDult: maybe, but what do I do to repair it? Can you suggest something?
[13:34] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  no, repeat your question with details every 10 minutes or so, until someone can help
[13:35] <hagrid> Monkeydult: I tried booting in reovery mode from grub, that goes ok, and shows me a menu for actions, where I resume normal boot, and the same thing happens.
[13:35] <Twenty-three> hagrid, have you tried booting different linux headers at grub? it worked for me, at some stage
[13:35] <hagrid> Monkeydult: ok, thanks.
[13:35] <stroodlepup> does synaptic have ftp support?
[13:35] <hagrid> Twenty-three: what do you mean, boot different linux headers
[13:35] <seg> Twenty-three: are you referring to kernels? Headers are usually only used by other software.
[13:35] <bekks> Twenty-three: You cannot boot linux-headers.
[13:36] <bekks> Twenty-three: And the headers have to be the same version as the kernel used.
[13:36] <esing> Hawkerz Didn't help either
[13:36] <Twenty-three> hagrid, seg, bekks, yeah, i probably mean kernel
[13:36] <ffio> i have created a local repository, now in that i need to block some packages is that possible ?
[13:36] <seg> Twenty-three: for example, the nvidia drivers NEED the kernel headers (which are bundled) to create the right module for the kernel to load nvidia stuff at runtime
[13:36] <Hawkerz> esing, apparently in your bios, you need to disable 'quickboot', 'intel smart response technology', and in windows you have to disable 'fast startup' -- you can make sure here that it is installed properly in EFI mode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_an_Ubuntu_has_been_installed_in_EFI_mode
[13:37] <hagrid> Twenty-three, seg, bekks well, it is a fresh install, so I dont have older kernels available.
[13:37] <Twenty-three> seg: noted, :)
[13:37] <seg> Twenty-three: I figured you knew, just wanted to avoid confusion for others
[13:37] <stroodlepup> hello?
[13:37] <seg> stroodlepup: hi!
[13:38] <hagrid> Twenty-three: I dont have nvidia, or ati. It is an intel video card.
[13:38] <nevyn> seg: gigs of ssd is way cheaper than gigs of ram still.
[13:38] <Hawkerz> esing, this also advises only having one efi partition per disk
[13:38] <stroodlepup> seg: does synaptic have ftp support?
[13:38] <nevyn> seg: in servers ssd's are considered consumables
[13:38] <hagrid> Twenty-three: thanks for your help, sorry, I have to go now. I'll come back to this channel later.
[13:38] <nevyn> you replace them every 2 years on your db server just to get the performance in write iops
[13:39] <stroodlepup> anyone? need help
[13:40] <seg> nevyn: yeah, I understand that, but as I said personally I place more value on raw storage, as my funding is finite, and the amounts of ram I would need to host a small database server are within my budget.
[13:40] <seg> nevyn: thankfully I dont need to fund any real operations ;D
[13:41] <monkey> I'm monkey
[13:41] <MonkeyDu1t> monkey  how nice
[13:41] <monkey> oh
[13:41] <stroodlepup> all: does synaptic have ftp support?
[13:42] <camilo> How do i reinstall an old driver through terminal, is there a folder where old module are stored?
[13:42] <nevyn> stroodlepup: no. but libapt does
[13:42] <monkey> How to learn English? it's hard
[13:42] <stroodlepup> nevyn: libapt?
[13:42] <nevyn> stroodlepup: synaptic doesn't have http, ftp ssh nfs or the ability to read packages from a filesystem
[13:43] <nevyn> stroodlepup: ask the real question.
[13:43] <treehau55> I have a critical command for fixing my graphics card issues that I need to run and I cant get it to work for the life of me, from what I can tell everything is okay: sudo update-alternatives --install /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf 100 --slave /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules
[13:43] <treehau55> usage is: --install <link> <name> <path> <priority> [--slave <link> <name> <path>]
[13:43] <treehau55> everything is there, so dont understand why its spitting out the info screen every time
[13:44] <tsimpson> well you're missing the last <name> and <path> arguments for --slave
[13:44] <treehau55> oh crap
[13:44] <stroodlepup> nevyn: that was the question. i was using an ftp mirror for my app dowloads but synaptic does not have an ftp option anymore
[13:45] <monkey> Is there Asian?
[13:45] <treehau55> tsimpson, sometimes just takes another set of eyes I guess
[13:45] <nevyn> stroodlepup: it never did
[13:45] <nevyn> well it might have in repository editor but that's fixable
[13:46] <stroodlepup> gutsy did
[13:46] <MonkeyDu1t> monkey  what language?
[13:46] <monkey> Korean
[13:46] <monkey> you?
[13:46] <treehau55> ok the command is working, now its telling me update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules with a link.
[13:46] <MonkeyDu1t> !ko
[13:46] <monkey> real?
[13:47] <monkey> nice to meet you
[13:47] <camilo> I can't boot any GUI, anyone spare a second to help? I've been trying for 3/hrs
[13:47] <stroodlepup> nevyn: so, apt-get has ftp support?
[13:47] <treehau55> why can I not do sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb like the ubuntu help says to for fixing ATI hybrid graphics issues?
[13:47] <monkey> Where do you live?
[13:48] <Hawkerz> esing, here is another link -- this one advocates partitioning the drive in windows itself: http://www.howtogeek.com/99060/how-to-dual-boot-windows-8-and-linux-mint-on-the-same-pc/
[13:50] <esing> Hawkerz Thanks for the link
[13:50] <monkey> goodbye
[13:50] <esing> Hawkerz I try to add ubuntu manually in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:51] <esing> If nothing works I can still try another boot loader as gummiboot
[13:54] <TheCompWiz> Can someone help me figure out WTF is going wrong with my install from an external hard drive? ... I'm stuck in one of two places.
[13:54] <djlocus> lol
[13:54] <TheCompWiz> first... if I use the vmlinuz and initrd.gz from the .iso  I get to the point where it can't find the CD.
[13:54] <acovrig> I am trying to (re)add a canon mx860 and am getting Bad device-uri scheme "cnijnet" any ideas?
[13:55] <TheCompWiz> or rather... it complains that it can't find the CD...
[13:55] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Why do you use the vmlinuz/initrd from the CD?
[13:55] <djlocus> isnt it correct the only 2 ways to find someone is there ip and mac address
[13:55] <TheCompWiz> because I copied it from there.
[13:55] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Why?
[13:55] <TheCompWiz> if I use the hd-media ones (from the ubuntu website) it has the wrong kernel version... and tells me as much.
[13:56] <bekks> TheCompWiz: It has the wrong kernel version? What exactly are you doing there?
[13:56] <TheCompWiz> simply trying to build a install from hard drive.
[13:56] <djlocus> the ways to find someone is there IP ADDRESS AND MAC ADDRESS right?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: how do you mean?
[13:57] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Why dont you just install Ubuntu to your USB drive?
[13:57] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: not really.  That's *some* info ... but can be spoofed or tunneled.
[13:57] <djlocus> wait what tunnled?
[13:57] <TheCompWiz> bekks: long story short... because I can't.
[13:57] <djlocus> what can be tunnled?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: what are you trying to actually achieve?
[13:58] <Hawkerz> esing, i'll be around mostly
[13:58] <esing> Thanks for your support
[13:58] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: you can tunnel your connection through another peer... and it looks like it came from the other peer.  That does not mean the person is actually there.
[13:58] <djlocus> look i was wondering because i havnt got tracked yet
[13:58] <bekks> TheCompWiz: Well... in that case, I have to rest the case,
[13:59] <TheCompWiz> bekks: longer-story... I need installation media that has other boot options.
[13:59] <djlocus> thats why they have bouncers. bounces your ip every 2 secs
[13:59] <djlocus> or 5
[13:59] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: bouncers don't work.
[13:59] <djlocus> works for me
[13:59] <djlocus> so far
[13:59] <bekks> TheCompWiz: And why cant you first install ubuntu as usual, and add your installation options afterwards?
[14:00] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: from your perspective... my IP would look like I'm in Florida... but I'm actually on the other side of the globe right now.
[14:00] <djlocus> true
[14:00] <djlocus> and it can change every 2 or 5 secs
[14:00] <djlocus> all the way you set it
[14:00] <TheCompWiz> bekks: you're miss-interpreting what I'm saying.  I said BOOT options... not install options.
[14:00] <rudivs> I'm trying to get a sync a folder with my usb drive automatically when it is plugged in. It looks like udev + rsync is the best option?
[14:01] <djlocus> i been into illinois ,peoria police database and trying to delete the records of my cusin. never got into any trouble uey
[14:01] <raub> rudivs: that is what I would do but I am very lazy
[14:01] <djlocus> yet
[14:01] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: rsync is a good option if you only make changes on one side.  unison would be an alternative if you may make changes on both sides.
[14:02] <netlar> else if ( c == '\t' ){
[14:02] <netlar>                         putchar('/');
[14:02] <netlar>                         putchar('t');
[14:02] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, it should update both to whichever is the latest version. Does unison sync automatically, or do I need to run it each time?
[14:02] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: you'd need to run it each time.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: I just checked your IP from multiple DNS servers and it comes back the same every time
[14:03] <djlocus> whats my ip?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: 50.158.176.196
[14:03] <Pici> djlocus: Do you have actually have an Ubuntu support question?  If you're just looking to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:03] <djlocus> wtf
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: your IP isnt changing any, at all
[14:03] <djlocus> then......
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: your hostname still resolves to the same IP
[14:03] <djlocus> what do i need
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: so when I dig it at any DNS server online, I get that IP
[14:04] <TheCompWiz> djlocus:  to learn how networking works.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: you need to take offthe tinfoil hat]
[14:04] <TheCompWiz> ^5 to ActionParsnip
[14:04] <djlocus> god damit........
[14:04] <djlocus> how did you pull up my ip online?
[14:05] <TheCompWiz> what do you mean it doesn't work like it does in movies?
[14:05] <TheCompWiz> :D
[14:05] <djlocus> lol
[14:05] <bekks> djlocus: I just typed "/whois djlocus" into my IRC client.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: in my irc client. Typed:   /whois djlocus
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: gives:   djlocus [~anonymous@c-50-158-176-196.hsd1.il.comcast.net
[14:05] <ikonia> the identi is anonymous though, so it's ok ;)
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: ping c-50-158-176-196.hsd1.il.comcast.net     and get the IP
[14:06] <CatKiller> djlocus: Freenode does not hide hostnames.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: not hard
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: should do mine :)
[14:06] <CatKiller> ActionParsnip: You register for that or something and then they do?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: what does my whois say?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: i'm an ubuntu member, so I have a cloak
[14:07] <djlocus> how do you type it
[14:07] <djlocus> ?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: type what?
[14:07] <CatKiller> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[14:07] <CatKiller> Just googled it
[14:07] <djlocus> that thing you did
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: use the keyboard...
[14:07] <CatKiller> Ah well I don't need it myself
[14:07] <djlocus> i did
[14:07] <djlocus> lol
[14:07] <djlocus> didnt do anything
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: /whois ActionParsnip    is the command
[14:07] <CatKiller> Look in the "Freenode" window
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: then look in your info window
[14:09] <Hawkerz> esing, you could also run boot repair
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: I wouldnt worry about not having a hidden IP and whatnot
[14:09] <djlocus> i see. but how do you hide your self
[14:10] <CatKiller> I sent the link already
[14:10] <CatKiller> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[14:10] <djlocus> why?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: i am an Ubuntu Member, part of membership is a cloak
[14:10] <djlocus> lol...
[14:10] <djlocus> so you do alot of bad things little whore
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: erm...no
[14:11] <djlocus> lol. joking
[14:11] <MonkeyDu1t> djlocus  watch it now...
[14:11] <CatKiller> Seems that this discussion that's completely OT is going nowhere
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: to be honest I dont care about the cloak, its just a bonus imho
[14:11] <djlocus> whys that?
[14:11] <djlocus> i see
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: you do realise that hiding your iP does very little
[14:12] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, any reason why I couldn't do a 2-way sync with rsync?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: most users on Freenode do not hide their IP and nothing happens
[14:13] <djlocus> i know. im just saying
[14:13] <djlocus> it's just everytime i looked online at my ip it's changed
[14:13] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: because rsync isn't designed for 2-way.  There are ways to work around it... but they're more hack-ish.  unison was created for that exact reason... and nearly does everything the same as rsync.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: try using:  curl canihazip.org
[14:14] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: look at http://ipchicken.com  ... that will show you what your IP is.
[14:14] <beardface> everyone lease go buy a second ubuntu edge for your wife
[14:14] <beardface> she wants one.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: sorry:    curl icanhazip.com
[14:14] <Hawkerz> esing, according to this you also may not have a bootable partition  because youre using efi, which means grub doesn't know how to handle it
[14:15] <lagreca> Hi, folks! Is ubuntu 12.04.3 really coming tomorrow?
[14:15] <esing> Hawkerz I run boot repair already.
[14:15] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, but I'd have to do it manually each time, which is a headache. I get that it works better, but I'm wondering how serious the data risks would be if I used a 2-way rsync hack
[14:16] <djlocus> okay now whats my ip
[14:16] <esing> Hawkerz Before I run boot repair I was just booting to windows. After I run boot repair the system always starts up in grub's rescue prompt
[14:16] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: no arguments... so would we all.  You could make a cron-job that re-runs it every five minutes or so while plugged in...
[14:16] <MonkeyDu1t> lagreca  scroll down, august 22 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: 50.158.176.196
[14:17] <djlocus> nope a hidden ip
[14:17] <djlocus> :)
[14:17] <djlocus> try again
[14:18] <djlocus> starts with a 192.
[14:18] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: unfortunately... proper "raid" software doesn't support split-brain... and software file mirroring doesn't run automagically.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: still 50.158.176.196
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: no, 192 is your LAN IP, not out on the web
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: changing your LAN IP does nothing
[14:18] <TheCompWiz> djlocus: you're behind a NAT.  your public IP *IS* 50.158.176.196
[14:18] <djlocus> fuck................
[14:18] <MonkeyDu1t> djlocus  please, your language
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: I hope you didnt pay for this IP switching
[14:18] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, have you ever looked at usbsync (http://wellhoefer.info/usbsync/)? Looks way old though...
[14:19] <djlocus> i didnt
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: you are worrying about nothing at all
[14:19] <djlocus> i know. but cant peopel trace you with it.?
[14:19] <djlocus> people
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: trace you to do what?
[14:20] <djlocus> trace your ip. unless you change it
[14:20] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: that doesn't look like it runs continuously.  Only one replication per run.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: the internet as a whole uses your IP to get data to you. But to what end would someone 'trace' you>
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: what would they achieve
[14:20] <djlocus> to kill you. or get put in jail
[14:21] <djlocus> thats what they will achieve
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: not going to happen
[14:21] <djlocus> whys that?
[14:21] <bazhang> !ot | djlocus
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: yo've been wathing too many movies mate
[14:21] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[14:21] <djlocus> yeah XD
[14:21] <fossjon> !ot | fossjon
[14:21] <djlocus> how come they cant put you in jail then?
[14:21] <djlocus> why you say not going to happen
[14:21] <fossjon> for going off topic?
[14:22] <bazhang> djlocus, this is not the channel for chit chat
[14:22] <fossjon> i didnt know it was a jailable offense
[14:22]  * TheCompWiz is still hoping to figure out why hd-media doesn't use the same kernel as the iso.
[14:22] <Hawkerz> esing, can you still boot windows?
[14:22] <djlocus> baz..... chit?
[14:22] <djlocus> lol
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> djlocus: go research credible sites. You dont even know what you are afraid of and what yoyu have in place to apparently 'combat' it doesn't work. At best this is a farce and I don't want to waste any more time on somebody who clearly has no idea what they are talking about
[14:23] <bazhang> djlocus, /join #ubuntu-offtopic dont continue here
[14:23] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, thanks... looks like ubuntu one or dropbox will probably be the solution here
[14:23] <esing> Hawkerz Yep, I just need to write 'exit' in grub's rescue prompt, and then Iam dropped into Windows
[14:23] <esing> Currently I try to setup rEFInd
[14:24] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: I don't suppose you know anything about building your own install disk...  (other than dumping the .iso to a thumb-drive)
[14:24] <djlocus> wtf i was just asking a fucking question. seems like i can do that
[14:24] <MonkeyDu1t> djlocus  stop swearing and stop the discussion
[14:24] <BluesKaj> !language | djlocus
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: you can chroot to the minimal ISO and build up by installing packages etc.
[14:25] <Hawkerz> esing, this seems like a lot of work...kind of shocking
[14:25] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: that's the problem... I really can't.
[14:26] <esing> Hawkerz I agree, I was expecting some difficulties, but it seems having new laptops can be challenging with linux
[14:28] <esing> Also sony's efi bios is really weak, I don't even see the efi boot entries in it
[14:28] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: it seems that the boot images on the .iso do not support the "iso-scan/filename" boot parameter... but the ones located in the ubuntu-repo
[14:28] <bhavesh> I have Ubuntu 12.04.2 installed with HOME as a separate partition. Can I install elementary OS and make it share the same HOME partition?
[14:28] <TheCompWiz> do... but are running the wrong kernel version.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: http://www.slashgeek.net/2012/12/26/create-your-own-custom-ubuntu-based-linux-distro/
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: http://alllinuxstuff.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/five-tools-to-build-your-own-ubuntu.html
[14:29] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: I'm not trying to build my own .iso
[14:29] <MonkeyDu1t> bhavesh  no, because ubuntu and elementary are not the same, /home also contains config files
[14:29] <bhavesh> MonkeyDu1t: okay, thanks.
[14:31] <philinux> TheCompWiz: what are you trying to do?
[14:32] <Hawkerz> esing, can i see your /etc/fstab?
[14:32] <TheCompWiz> install from iso file rather than from dumping the iso to a thumb-drive.
[14:32] <TheCompWiz> which ubuntu supposedly supports... but apparently doesn't work.
[14:32] <hagrid> Could someone help with this -ubuntu 12.04.2 fresh install, on booting, gets stuck on purple screen (I think its called plymouth).
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: well, grub2 can boot ISO files, so it will work. You will need a small partition to hold the file as well as Grub
[14:33] <esing2> Hawkerz,  http://ix.io/7hp
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> TheCompWiz: you can then install ubuntu to the remaining space
[14:34] <Hawkerz> esing2, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Microsoft_Windows_installed_in_UEFI-GPT_mode <- extra troubleshooting
[14:34] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: When ubuntu installer starts... it remounts the ramdisk... and suddenly can't find the cdrom anymore.
[14:34] <TheCompWiz> for 12.04.2 iso anyway.
[14:34] <p0wp0w|AWAY> I love irssi - awesome
[14:34] <matheus> hi
[14:35] <Skizu> Hey how do I use the console to hit a website as if i was viewing it?
[14:36] <TheCompWiz> curl
[14:36] <Pici> Skizu: w3m
[14:36] <Pici> Depending on what exactly you want to see, of course.
[14:36] <TheCompWiz> you could also use lynx
[14:37] <Hawkerz> just seems like some weird combo of things going wrong esing2 -- you could try booting with the boot flag 'pci=nocrs'
[14:37] <MonkeyDu1t> Skizu  or links
[14:37] <hagrid> Hi, can I ask a question here?
[14:37] <TheCompWiz> ActionParsnip: any other suggestions?
[14:37] <TheCompWiz> hagrid: I think you just did.
[14:38] <hagrid> TheCompWiz: sorry, no one answered, so I thought, no-one saw it.
[14:39] <TheCompWiz> I didn't see any question...
[14:39] <MonkeyDu1t> hagrid  no one answered, because no one knwos, be more patient
[14:40] <auronandace> !nomodeset | hagrid
[14:41] <hagrid> ubottu: I already tried 'nomodeset', with and without 'quiet splash', with the same result.
[14:41] <TheCompWiz> hagrid: you could always try a textmode install instead of graphical...
[14:42] <hagrid> TheCompWiz: How do i do that?
[14:42] <bazhang> !mini | hagrid
[14:43] <TheCompWiz> use the minimal cd.... like bazhang suggested... but keep in mind... if the install has graphics issues... the GUI might as well.
[14:44] <hagrid> TheCompWiz: So, should I reinstall ubuntu? That would take a lot of time, as my internet speed is quite slow.
[14:46] <hagrid> TheCompWIz: Actually, I cannot use the internet, since I use a pppoe connection, which I dont know how to set.
[14:47] <IdleOne> !pppoe
[14:48] <rudivs> TheCompWiz, do you know if it's possible to hook a script to the unmount process, in the same way that udev can run a script on mount?
[14:49] <hagrid> Idleone: I can't boot ubuntu, so i dont think i can use pppoe in the first place.
[14:49] <IdleOne> hagrid: ah, well first you need to get ubuntu booted :)
[14:49] <TheCompWiz> rudivs: I believe so... but I only ever use my own udev rules.  I never rely on the auto-mount thingie in ubuntu.
[14:50] <hagrid> IdleOne: Yes, that was my question in the first place.
[14:55] <hagrid> I get stuck on purple screen on booting ubuntu 12.04.2, have tried 'nomodeset' already, any other suggestions?
[14:55] <petapetapeta> I have just tried to set up a RAID and it was rather easy. But now I see that the sysem reports that it's 2x750gb instead of 2x3tb
[14:55] <petapetapeta> What could be the reason for this?
[14:56] <bazhang> !md5 | hagrid
[14:56] <bazhang> hagrid, md5 the iso prior to burning, do the disk integrity check following that
[14:57] <bazhang> hagrid, if the hashes do NOT match the iso is corrupt
[14:57] <hagrid> bazhang: ok thanks, i will try that.
[14:57] <bazhang> !hashes | hagrid
[14:59] <csj> hey, on the Ubuntu certified laptops page, what is the difference between a laptop being "Certified" vs "Enabled"?
[14:59] <csj> does "Enabled" mean Ubuntu works, but with a couple quirks?
[15:00] <AtomDream_> can someone please help me
[15:00] <AtomDream_> mozet mne ktoto pomo4 ?
[15:00] <bazhang> AtomDream_, with what, ask a question
[15:00] <AtomDream_> bazhang: ok, im a complete newb
[15:00] <AtomDream_> bazhang: installed ubuntu 12.04 lts
[15:01] <bazhang> !manual | AtomDream_ have a read
[15:01] <AtomDream_> bazhang: and no apps i nstalled are working
[15:01] <AtomDream_> bazhang: yes ok
[15:01] <bazhang> AtomDream_, not working is not very useful. give us the exact errors, with pastebins of commands etc
[15:02] <bazhang> !paste | AtomDream_
[15:02] <hagrid> bazhang: So the MD5 hash is correct, how do i check disk integrity?
[15:02] <AtomDream_> hmmm
[15:02] <AtomDream_> ok
[15:02] <thecodethinker> Will myr be open source
[15:02] <thecodethinker> ?
[15:03] <bazhang> hagrid, should be a menu choice once you burn and boot the dvd/usb whichever it it; which was it, btw
[15:03] <AtomDream_> (process:4432): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. 	Using the fallback 'C' locale. Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 94, in <module>     import ccm   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/__init__.py", line 1, in <module>     from ccm.Conflicts import *   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/Conflicts.py", line 26, in <module>     from ccm.Constants import *   File "/usr/lib/
[15:03] <bazhang> thecodethinker, mir?
[15:03] <hagrid> bazhang: it was a live usb.
[15:03] <AtomDream_> bazhang: (process:4432): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. 	Using the fallback 'C' locale. Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 94, in <module>     import ccm   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/__init__.py", line 1, in <module>     from ccm.Conflicts import *   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ccm/Conflicts.py", line 26, in <module>     from ccm.Constants import *   File "
[15:03] <thecodethinker> bazhang: yeah sorry... i forget if its a y or an i :3
[15:03] <bazhang> hagrid, used what to "burn"
[15:03] <hagrid> bazhang: I did check the live usb, it said no errors found.
[15:04] <hagrid> bazhang: I used, lilicreator first, then universal usb installer.
[15:05] <bazhang> hagrid, never heard of those, sorry; I've had most success with unetbootin; at any rate try to re "burn" the iso, as it's at times known to be a bit flaky and not work straightaway
[15:06] <IdleOne> bazhang: both those apps are windows USB creators, both work.
[15:06] <AtomDream_> Are there any russians that could help me with Ubuntu ???? having some problems here
[15:06] <MonkeyDu1t> !ru
[15:07] <bazhang> IdleOne, unetbootin also has a windows version
[15:07] <AtomDream_> ty
[15:07] <bazhang> that works
[15:07] <IdleOne> bazhang: indeed, the best so far.
[15:07] <hagrid> bazhang: lilicreator is linuxlivecreator, universal usb installer is the one on pendrivelinux.com, which is recommended by the ubuntu site itself. I am actually trying to dual boot with windows 8, so reinstalling ubuntu would mean running boot repair again, whihc I think is risky.
[15:08] <AtomDream_> i cant even join a channel lol
[15:08] <AtomDream_> wtf
[15:08] <AtomDream_> #ubuntu-ru Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[15:09] <IdleOne> !register | AtomDream_
[15:10] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone, is there a way to get less to not clear the screen when it exits when man is using it as the pager? I know I can change my PAGER to use more but the man command is braindead and doesn't let me page back.
[15:12] <hagrid> bazhang: Any other suggestions?
[15:13] <somsip> Remowylliams: b does not page backwards for you in man?
[15:13] <blz> Hello, I recently set a service to start only when I explicitly call `sudo service servicename start`.  How can I revert to its original configuration of starting on login?
[15:13] <Remowylliams> somsip: not if I'm using /bin/more as the PAGER
[15:13] <bazhang> hagrid, yes, try to reburn, as I said
[15:13]  * TheCompWiz is quite fond of the page-up and page-down keys.
[15:13] <blz> I completely forgot how I changed it the first time =/
[15:14] <TheCompWiz> blz update-rc.d servicename defaults
[15:14] <TheCompWiz> (sudo)
[15:14] <blz> TheCompWiz, that's the one!  Thank you!
[15:14] <blz> TheCompWiz, I'm getting "system start/stop links for /path/to/service already exist"
[15:14] <hagrid> bazhang: yes, but reinstalling it would mess up grub, right? and for dual booting , i would have to run boot repair again, isnt it?
[15:15] <TheCompWiz> blz add a -f to force it.
[15:15] <blz> TheCompWiz, I just did `enable`
[15:15] <blz> TheCompWiz, hopefully that doesn't do anything unexpected
[15:15] <TheCompWiz> blz I've had it do that several times... not sure what causes that error... but it's usually wrong.
[15:16] <blz> TheCompWiz, seems to be working now.  Thanks much!
[15:16] <TheCompWiz> np :)
[15:19] <hagrid> I get stuck on purple screen on booting ubuntu 12.04.2, have tried 'nomodeset' already, any other suggestions?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: what gpu do you use?
[15:21] <hagrid> ActionParsnip: there is no ati or nvidia stuff, just plain intel graphics card
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: does the system have a make and model?
[15:22] <hagrid> yes, its a lenovo ideapad z580
[15:22] <hagrid> ActionParsnip: yes, its a lenovo ideapad z580
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:24] <hagrid> ActionParsnip: How do I check whether its latest? Its a phoenix SecureCore Tiano bios..
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> hagrid: sudo dmidecode -t 1    will tell you bios version
[15:30] <hagrid>  I get stuck on purple screen on booting ubuntu 12.04.2, have tried 'nomodeset' already, any other suggestions?
[15:30] <histo> !md5sum | hagrid
[15:31] <AtomDream_> bazhang: can you please tell them to unban me on #ubuntu-ru, i wont curse anymore
[15:31] <hagrid> histo: I have already tried that.
[15:31] <bazhang> AtomDream_, #ubuntu-irc for this
[15:31] <histo> hagrid: and have you verifying your installation media as well?
[15:32] <hagrid> histo: Yes. I checked the Live usb for defects, and it said zero errors
[15:33] <histo> hagrid: don't check it for defects compare the md5sum to the one online using the instructions from ubottu
[15:34] <hagrid> histo: Yes, already done that. the MD5 hash is correct
[15:37] <valfar101> first time I use xchat, you guys think smuxi is better?
[15:37] <Andres75> hey dudes can anyone help with mounting a windows share under ubuntu?
[15:38] <Andres75> the folder is on a server machine with AD
[15:38] <Andres75> permissions  set to everybody full control
[15:38] <Andres75> the ubuntu machine is not in the AD
[15:40] <Andres75>  //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver cifs uid=1000 user=HOME\Administrator password=grass 0 0
[15:40] <Andres75> in /etc/fstab says bad line
[15:40] <Hawkerz> esing, any luck?
[15:40] <valfar101> Just use the "connect to server" tool that comes with nautilus. Open files in Ubuntu, click on the "files" menu and then where it says "connect top Server" there you put the ip for the windows machine as well as the name of the windows shared folder
[15:41] <Andres75> its ubuntu server I have no gui
[15:41] <Andres75> but thanks for tryinh
[15:41] <Andres75> g
[15:41] <TJ-> Andres75: Are you able to use smbclient to connect to the AD server?
[15:42] <Andres75> I tried but I'm not sure what to expect
[15:42] <Andres75> at a certain point it didnt give any error, but it wouldnt work
[15:42] <TJ-> Andres75: Fetch a file from the share. If you can do that, you know the issue is just in the mount config
[15:42] <linux-ninja> having an issue with a Ubuntu box, there is a directory mounted from a CIFS share, when I tried making changes to the mount it doesn't allow me to, but under a windows client the client is able to make change to the materials within, any input into this issue is greatly apreciated.
[15:44] <Andres75>  /usr/bin/smbclient \\\\server\\TC grass
[15:44] <Andres75>  NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[15:44] <linux-ninja> even when I tried chown the directory I keep getting chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/coop': Not a directory
[15:45] <Andres75> grass is the windows server admin password
[15:45] <Andres75> (but it's not password protected so I'm not sure)
[15:45] <TJ-> Andres75: I'm thinking your issue may be with Kerberos. I would think the client will need a valid ticket in order to access the shares.
[15:46] <Andres75> even if I set them to Everybody-> sharing permissions Everybody -> Security?
[15:51] <TJ-> Andres75: Maybe this will help? http://techcommons.stanford.edu/topics/miscellaneous/mounting-active-directory-windows-cifs-file-share-ubuntu-linux
[15:52] <Andres75> i think that worked at a point it threw no errors
[15:52] <Andres75> I tried then to remount it and it said it was busy
[15:52] <Andres75> was that a good sign?
[15:55] <jhonnyboii> Hi
[15:55] <jhonnyboii> anyone here?
[15:56] <inclusa> Hi
[15:56] <Kh4l1d> yap
[15:56] <Andres75> mount -t cifs //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver -o username=Administrator,domain=home.ad,iocharset=utf8
[15:56] <Andres75> this asks for a password
[15:56] <Andres75> I input it
[15:56] <Andres75> and no errors are thrown
[15:56] <jhonnyboii> anyone know how i can install a fan controll ?
[15:56] <Andres75> how do I see if it's working
[15:56] <jhonnyboii> got a HP laptop
[15:56] <jhonnyboii> HP 635
[15:57] <bazhang> jhonnyboii, hardware or software
[15:57] <jhonnyboii> channel?
[15:57] <TJ-> Andres75: If it worked, look at the files in /mnt/ntserver
[15:57] <Kh4l1d> ubuntu-indonesia.com
[15:57] <bazhang> !id | Kh4l1d
[15:57] <Andres75> yep, it's there
[15:57] <Andres75> thanks TJ
[15:58] <bazhang> !sensors | jhonnyboii
[15:58] <Andres75> how do I make it permanent
[15:58] <Andres75> ??
[15:58] <Kh4l1d> ubottu: indonesian ?
[15:58] <Kh4l1d> ubottu: di sana sepi
[16:00] <TJ-> Andres75: Make sure its in the /etc/fstab, but I'd recommend you don't include the username/password; instead put them in a separate locked-down file (0700) and point to it from the mount options
[16:00] <IdleOne> !indonesian | Kh4l1d
[16:01] <Andres75> I gather I don't have to put all the line in right?
[16:02] <Andres75> just //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver -o username=Administrator,domain=home.ad,iocharset=utf8
[16:02] <Andres75> and append the password?
[16:02] <Andres75> like so: //SERVER/TC /mnt/ntserver -o username=Administrator,password=grass,domain=home.ad,iocharset=utf8
[16:04] <Andres75> it works!!
[16:04] <Andres75> Thank you!
[16:04] <IdleOne> !pm | shihan
[16:05] <IdleOne> shihan: try #bash for help with your script and please to message random people
[16:05] <IdleOne> sahil: ^^
[16:05] <IdleOne> sorry shihan
[16:05] <sahil> k..
[16:05] <IdleOne> err please don't*
[16:06] <sahil> sure...actually i did to avoid pastebin..
[16:07] <TriBeCa99> Will I be able to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a fakeraid 10 array?
[16:08] <holstein> TriBeCa99: nothing about ubuntu 12.04 will prevent that from happening
[16:09] <Cyrax> just 1 last question. Where can i find guide how to run ubuntu from a CD/dvd?
[16:09] <TriBeCa99> holstein: I know in earlier versions the installer couldn't recognize raid 10, which is why I ask.
[16:10] <ffio> i am installing xubuntu-desktop, how can i check which packages i am installing ?
[16:10] <TriBeCa99> I just want to make sure before buying 16 $300 drives for 4 workstations that I will be able to get Ubuntu on there without purchasing additional drives.
[16:10] <holstein> TriBeCa99: http://www.linuxplanet.com/index.php/linuxplanet/tutorials/6518/1/
[16:10] <linux-ninja> After mounting the CIFS share is there a way to change the ownership?
[16:11] <holstein> TriBeCa99: i would test otherwise before purchasing, or save reciepts, as i do with *all* purchases of hardware that is not intended for the OS i am going to be running
[16:11] <linux-ninja> I tried and not even root can change the ownership.
[16:11] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: dmraid is supported, but you'll probably want the alternative/minimal/net/server installer rather than desktop live CD
[16:11] <holstein> !mini | TriBeCa99
[16:12] <TriBeCa99> yeah we can return anything that doesn't work out, but it would be a pain so I wanted to research in advance
[16:12] <TriBeCa99> thanks for the link, reading now
[16:12] <linux-ninja> When I mount the cifs share it keeps coming back as root:root , i woudl like to asign it diferent group and user
[16:14] <holstein> linux-ninja: you cant chown the mountpoint?
[16:14] <eduhat> i have a ubuntu VPS with gnome pre-installed. How can I access it?
[16:15] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: I've installed RAID stripe+mirror (0+1 or 1+0 ) on lots of Ubuntu servers. For desktop live CD installs it used to be the case that you'd have to drop to a shell prompt and prepare the disk array manually before continuing with the partitioning/file-system selection. I've not done it with recent releases of desktop so I'm not sure about those now.
[16:15] <eduhat> How can I access the gnome desktop environment
[16:15] <holstein> eduhat: i would ask the preinstallers how you are intended to customize it
[16:15] <k1l> eduhat: with ssh. a desktop running on a server is not recommended
[16:15] <linux-ninja> holstein, i think I will have to uid and gid the actual mount which sucks anyways, I will report back in a few
[16:15] <holstein> !chown
[16:15] <eduhat> I know its really not a good idea. I just want to try something
[16:15] <holstein> linux-ninja: should be chown the mountpoint
[16:15] <eduhat> Is there any way I can revert back to a minimal install of ubuntu?
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[16:16] <holstein> eduhat: are you asking, "can i install packages and then remove them?".. yes
[16:17] <eduhat> holstein: well, I dont remember everything I have installed, and would like to just revert to a minimal install instead of reinstalling from the ISO as my provider would have to do this
[16:17] <holstein> eduhat: you would ask the provider what you have, and for support
[16:18] <holstein> eduhat: otherwise, you can remove what you install
[16:18] <AtomDream_> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985579/
[16:18] <TJ-> eduhat: Look at the Depends line of "apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal"
[16:19] <bazhang> !details | AtomDream_
[16:19] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: I've got RAID 10 working on several servers, but I've never installed the OS directly to that array, and I remember it being a serious pain to get going. I've always had a standalone drive to install on, then built the RAID 10, then mounted it to root. I need to be sure before buying and building these workstations that I can get ubuntu on a raid 10 array with no other drives, or else I'll
[16:19] <TriBeCa99> have to go with a different architecture.
[16:19] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Why not do a test run using a virtual machine?
[16:19] <N2TOH> hi folks
[16:20] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: how would I do that? Sorry, not immediately obvious to me.
[16:20] <k1l> !wine | AtomDream_
[16:20] <TJ-> eduhat: The installation history should be in "/var/log/apt/history.log" so you can 'grep' that file to create a list of installed packages, and then 'diff' it against the list installed by ubuntu-minimal
[16:21] <k1l> AtomDream_: wine is quite complicated and alot of programs need extra workarounds in wine. so better ask their support
[16:21] <eduhat> TJ-: sounds good. Just what I needed!
[16:21] <N2TOH> out of ignorance and before I spend all day asking google who flash player has gotten all wacky  on my 12.10 system, do any of you know why?
[16:21] <AtomDream_> I have a problem with running a game on Wine, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS When I try to execute game launcher, I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985579/, but I expected it to work normally.
[16:21] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Create a VM with 4 virtual disks and then run the installer and see if you can configure them using dmraid (the fakeraid tool).
[16:21] <bazhang> AtomDream_, check the appdb then
[16:21] <sere> question : why would granule log me out when I try to open a deck..
[16:21] <bazhang> !appdb | AtomDream_
[16:22] <bazhang> AtomDream_, then join #winehq for help
[16:22] <AtomDream_> .....
[16:22] <bazhang> AtomDream_, /join #winehq
[16:22] <AtomDream_> вы заелись господа
[16:22] <bazhang> AtomDream_, english here only
[16:22] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Or alternatively, test it on a host with the fakeraid controller and 4 disks and configure the 4 raw disk into a VM and try the installer and make sure it can configure the array and then install onto the 'fake' devices without messing up the raw devices
[16:23] <AtomDream_> bazhang: i think you understand what i mean
[16:23] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: It's the first 7 words of your instructions I have no idea how to carry out. Actually even just the first 3. I should perhaps explain that I'm not an actual IT person, just a scientist who happens to also be a hardware enthusiast.
[16:23] <bazhang> AtomDream_, I do, and the channel for help is #winehq
[16:23] <bazhang> AtomDream_, first check the appdb, which I linked to you
[16:24] <AtomDream_> bazhang: appdb says it dosent work, i see people on youtube running it freely
[16:24] <N2TOH> what channel for Flash player issues?
[16:24] <bazhang> AtomDream_, so ask for help in the correct channel
[16:24] <bazhang> AtomDream_, that channel is #winehq
[16:24] <AtomDream_> bazhang: ty for support
[16:25] <N2TOH> bazhang: do you know the correct channel for dealing with flash player?
[16:25] <bazhang> N2TOH, ask the channel here and see if someone knows
[16:26] <N2TOH> bazhang: I did, guess I just have to wait. Thank you for the input
[16:26] <AtomDream_> bazhang: im getting paranoid bcz nothing works for me, and suddenly start working for no reason, and then stops working for no reason. Some shaman business ....
[16:27] <Hawkerz> things don't happen for no reason, in general
[16:28] <AtomDream_> Hawkerz: im kinda new to linux
[16:28] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Ahhh! I think you have a steep learning curve to climb then, because you're wanting to do something that is quite technical and does require some insight or experience
[16:28] <AtomDream_> Hawkerz: so its usuall to say "for no reason"
[16:28] <bazhang> !ot | AtomDream_
[16:29] <esing> Hawkerz Nope, it isn't booting at all anymroe :)
[16:30] <Hawkerz> esing, what changed? i mean, was there any apparent cause?
[16:30] <AtomDream_> bazhang: реально зажрались
[16:30] <esing> Hawkerz I uninstalled grub and moved grub away from /boot/, and then I added refind with efibootmgr and put it to position 1, but it's not appearing on startup
[16:30] <wutr> Hi, is there anyone that could help me work out why my monitor resolution is not detected? Using "radeon" driver, VGA (analog) cable to Dell 2009W LCD
[16:31] <esing> Hawkerz I made a refind boot usb, I'll try to start linux with it
[16:31] <Hawkerz> good luck
[16:31] <esing> Thanks
[16:32] <Hawkerz> did you install grub to the mbr? i'm not really clear on how grub is attempting to be compatible with efi
[16:35] <sahil> icelite <--- this guy/girl is repeatedly disturbing me with nonsense pm about girls and watever,i wish to block him
[16:35] <icelite> I don't think so
[16:35] <icelite> I'm new here
[16:35] <icelite> I have to fix my VM
[16:35] <icelite> brb
[16:35] <compdoc> sahil, use /ignore icelite
[16:36] <k1l> sahil: please report such incidents in #ubuntu-ops
[16:36] <sahil>  /ignore icelite
[16:36] <darkelfjuggalo> Can someone tell me Adium is?
[16:36] <compdoc> sahil, without the space in front
[16:37] <bekks> darkelfjuggalo: Adium is a Windows-based instant messaging program.
ohk...thnx
[16:37] <darkelfjuggalo> so it is like the Pidgin I use to get here?
 ok sure..
[16:43] <darkelfjuggalo> is alsa the default sound driver in Ubuntu?
[16:43] <themanwithnoface> Are VIM questions appropriate here?  i have very basic VIM questions, just install 7.4 and need help with color schemes
[16:43] <icelite> yes darkelfjuggalo
[16:43] <icelite> its quite common I think
[16:44] <themanwithnoface> *installed
[16:44] <darkelfjuggalo> is there a better driver to use, or does it really matter?
[16:44] <IdleOne> themanwithnoface: try #vim
[16:44] <themanwithnoface> IdleOne: on freenode?
[16:44] <IdleOne> yes
[16:45] <themanwithnoface> cannot send to their channel, it's a simple question , any vim users here?
[16:46] <bazhang> themanwithnoface, register then
[16:46] <themanwithnoface> i have the molokai colorscheme   the '.vim'  file in the correct place in the colors folder in
[16:46] <doomlord_> try #prgramming aswell
[16:46] <themanwithnoface> okay
[16:46] <themanwithnoface> no vim users here?
[16:46] <doomlord_> but not #emacs
[16:46] <SolarAquarion> awesome isn't showing in lightdm
[16:47] <SolarAquarion> fix or something?
[16:47] <darkelfjuggalo> anacron, for General usage, is this important to keep?
[16:47] <SolarAquarion> Tried to do the NoShow=false
[16:47] <SolarAquarion> but it didn't work
[16:48] <IdleOne> !register | themanwithnoface You need to register to speak there
[16:49] <figure002> !topic
[16:55] <Suhas> how to open Trash through terminal in ubuntu?????
[16:56] <IdleOne> !trash | Suhas
[16:56] <darkelfjuggalo> Apparmor:  purpose is unclear to me
[16:57] <darkelfjuggalo> what is Apparmor?
[16:57] <purezen> Hey guys..! I recently filed some bugs in Ubuntu on Launchpad.. How do I know if they are triaged properly..?
[16:58] <Suhas> but i'm unable to open it through nautilus i used this path: /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[16:59] <Suhas> but i'm unable to open it through nautilus i used this path: /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash : ubottu
[17:00] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: It's an easier-to-use alternative to SELinux, basically
[17:01] <darkelfjuggalo> TJ- not Familiar with SELinux, but i found the wiki, essentially is is security for policy violation?
[17:01] <TJ-> Suhas: This works for me: "ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[17:02] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Yes, it protects the system from malicious misuse of an application beyond its legitimate requirements, by blocking access to resources it has no business with
[17:02] <Suhas> but how do i open it through nautilus : TJ-
[17:03] <TriBeCa99> TJ-: Sorry had to talk to a colleague. What I'm going to do is just get the UBUNTU installer to create a small RAID 1 partition on the drives, install on that, and then set up the rest of the drive space in a RAID 10 after ubuntu is installed
[17:03] <TJ-> Suhas: Use the "Rubbish Bin" link in the left navigation pane
[17:03] <darkelfjuggalo> ok, that is much clearer, i understand the policy it is enforcing
[17:03] <TriBeCa99> I've done that before, so I'll just have to pore over a few how-to's to remember exactly how it's done
[17:04] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: I don't recall it being too difficult, as long a dmraid uses the correct metadata scheme to match the controllers
[17:04] <Suhas> i used ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ but it says no such directory : TJ-
[17:04] <themanwithnoface> is freenode supposed to take forever to send the confirmation email to registe ron irc???
[17:04] <TJ-> Suhas: Then maybe it doesn't exist? What version of Ubuntu is it?
[17:05] <bazhang> themanwithnoface, ask in #freenode
[17:05] <IdleOne> themanwithnoface: it may have gone to your spam folder
[17:05] <TJ-> themanwithnoface: There was a notice last night about a 4 hour outage that would stop registration emails; as far as I know that isn't still in effect
[17:05] <Cyrax> I need help. I installed ubuntu so its in the startup where I can choose windows 8 or ubuntu,when I choose ubuntu,it somethign about it doesnt find it or something wrong.. i can't explain exact. But how do I fix it? i want to use ubuntu from a DVD only
[17:06] <themanwithnoface> wow that is JUST my luck man, can't get this dumb vim question answered...  more googling...  thanks for the info TJ
[17:06] <themanwithnoface> not in spam
[17:07] <gordonjcp> !ask | themanwithnoface
[17:07] <Suhas> 12.04 customized, actually  i tried opening it and it had worked but recently my system crashed and i had to reinstall it, now it doesn't work :TJ-
[17:07] <Pici> themanwithnoface: again, freenode help should be asked in #freenode.  #ubuntu doesn't control this irc network.
[17:08] <darkelfjuggalo> Appmenu-gtk and appmenu-gtk3 ; packages.ubuntu and launchpad have a limited explanation, Wiki.ubuntu has no entry ; i understand it works for dbus, but I am not clear on what Dbus is for
[17:09] <Cyrax> Anyway i can fix it so the ubuntu starts like it should?
[17:10] <TJ-> Suhas: So recreate it: "mkdir -p ~/.local/share/Trash/{files,info}"  - or, if the user directory was damaged as it sounds like, create a brand new user account and transfer your user files to it, so the system files are correctly created and available
[17:10] <bazhang> Cyrax, you want to use ubuntu from the live dvd only?
[17:10] <N2TOH> how do you rollback the automatic updates to see where the new code broke you machine?
[17:11] <Cyrax> yes.. not from computer,, just from a DVD
[17:11] <bazhang> Cyrax, then boot from it
[17:11] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: Dbus is for inter-process communications
[17:11] <Cyrax> how? something is wrogn so i can't
[17:11] <Cyrax> *wrong
[17:11] <bazhang> Cyrax, set in bios to choose dvd/cd first
[17:11] <darkelfjuggalo> ok and qt is the next on my list?
[17:12] <Cyrax> where is that choice? boot options?  adn what do i choose there?
[17:12] <bazhang> Cyrax, the bios is the first thing you see, hit esc, f12 or the like
[17:13] <bazhang> Cyrax, change the boot order to look for the dvd drive first
[17:13] <subcool> can somone help me with my old kubuntu 10.0
[17:13] <subcool> it disabled the networking, and i cant re-enable it..
[17:13] <Cyrax> i know.. and then u have optiosn to choose.. advanced options. i got a asus intel-core i5 (3rd generation) Ram 8GB,64 bit
[17:13] <bazhang> subcool, what version
[17:14] <subcool> bazhang, 10? maybe.. idk
[17:14] <bazhang> subcool, ten point what
[17:14] <subcool> idk
[17:14] <subcool> im on a usb-gparted live disk now.
[17:14] <bazhang> subcool, its desktop? its eol
[17:15] <subcool> yeah.. i imagined..
[17:15] <bazhang> !eol | subcool
[17:15] <subcool> but i need it to have internet to upgrade it
[17:15] <neutrondude> any1 here know whether it is possible to install direct x 10/ 11 on ubunut
[17:15] <neutrondude> *ubuntu, using wine
[17:15] <subcool> how do i re-start or something the networking
[17:15] <sere> question : why would granule log me out when I try to open a deck..
[17:15] <TJ-> subcool: "sudo service networking restart
[17:16] <subcool> TJ!!!!!!
[17:16] <subcool> TJ-, hey man.. -
[17:16] <subcool> how do i do that while booted into the gparted.. chrun or something right?
[17:17] <TJ-> subcool: I thought you wanted to restart networking in the running environment; you cant' restart one that *isn't* running!
[17:17] <subcool> :/ - yeah.. im kinda desperate..
[17:17] <Paulo_neto> hello, how do i make a dvd from .vod files?
[17:17] <TJ-> subcool: You'd have to start a terminal; never had to do that using gparted so you'll have to figure it out
[17:17] <subcool> somehow my networking died.. - and its kubuntu 10.XX
[17:17] <histo> !burn | Paulo_neto
[17:17] <subcool> or maybe even older
[17:18] <TJ-> subcool: Maybe you can switch to another tty? Using Ctrl+Alt+F2 through F6 ?
[17:18] <Guest4392> subcool, try this : "sudo dhclient eth0 up"
[17:18] <subcool> well, thats a simple command, i could make it happen.
[17:18] <subcool> it disabled the networking, and it refuses to let me reenable wifi
[17:18] <TheCompWiz> any ubuntu related grub/syslinux know-it-alls in here?
[17:18] <subcool> TJ-, i could boot it up and do it normally- its operational, but-- the wifi is dead for some reason.
[17:18] <TJ-> subcool: Not sure which tty gparted will be running on but you can switch amongst any active ttys using Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F7 (if you have tty1 ... tty7)
[17:19] <x-s4nd3r> Is it safe to delete all these files by clicking "Localizations" in BleachBit? Here are the files that will be deleted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985771/ so should I do it or not? (is it safe?)
[17:19] <DasEi> I can't find sensors-detect no more, how I go about finding correct modules for cpu-temperature ?
[17:19] <TJ-> subcool: Maybe it needs to authenticate? Which implies needing wpa_supplicant configuring
[17:19] <subcool> TJ-, nah..
[17:19] <subcool> TJ-, when i righ click it- it says netowrking disabled, bbut wont le tme enable it
[17:20] <x-s4nd3r> Is it safe to delete all these files by clicking "Localizations" in BleachBit? Here are the files that will be deleted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5985771/ so should I do it or not? (is it safe?)
[17:20] <Paulo_neto> thanks
[17:20] <TJ-> subcool: Sounds like a missing driver; maybe the wifi uses a proprietary binary blob
[17:21] <subcool> TJ-, its worked before-
[17:21] <subcool> i know its someting stupid, this is an old laptop
[17:21] <TJ-> subcool: OK, well you need to check out the logs in /var/log/ for clues; We can't guess for you :D
[17:21] <subcool> id like to upgrade it to 12. but- i need the internet to work so i can dl the new image
[17:21] <subcool> TJ-, your guesses are better than mine
[17:21] <TJ-> DasEi: /usr/sbin/sensors-detect, in package lm-sensors
[17:22] <TJ-> subcool: I'm guessing you split Coke in it!
[17:22] <grandpa> Hello :-) anyone who can help me with virtualbox??
[17:23] <subcool> TJ-,  which log would be helpful?
[17:23] <DasEi> TJ-: thank you, I try now.. (have so oc installed lm-sensors, but OS doesn't sensors-detect and also ubotto tells no such package), well I'll look
[17:24] <grandpa> there is like 1000+ ppl in here and no one can help?
[17:24] <TJ-> subcool: All of them! Sounds like it got messed up, there should be clues. Start with syslog and kern.log and widen the search if needed
[17:24] <DasEi> TJ-: thanks again, just a typo , facepalm, hehe
[17:24] <TJ-> DasEi: hehehe, I know, I did the same thing about 3 months ago and convinced myself it was missing :D
[17:24] <bazhang> grandpa, ask an actual question
[17:25] <blz> How can I verify a PGP signature that I have in an ASCII file?
[17:25] <grandpa> I need to find out if my USB adapter will work with virtualbox it's a TP-link TL-WN725N
[17:26] <grandpa> you know before i buy it
[17:26] <DasEi> TJ-: maybe ubott.. should know it's included in lm-sensors
[17:27] <MonkeyDu1t> grandpa  any specific reason why it shouldnt?
[17:27] <grandpa> I have just heard that some don't work with virtualbox
[17:27] <ebernhardson> i have two screens,  my notifications tend to go in the upper right of only one screen is there a way to have them display on both screens?
[17:27] <grandpa> so if you someone in here knew if it did :-)
[17:27] <bazhang> grandpa, a wifi usb ?
[17:27] <grandpa> yes
[17:27] <bazhang> grandpa, vbox wont use that
[17:28] <Pici> It might
[17:28] <DasEi> blz : Install  pgpgpg , then man  pgpgpg
[17:28] <subcool> TJ-, i dont see any errors
[17:28] <blz> DasEi, thanks
[17:28] <grandpa> so what could i buy?
[17:28] <Pici> grandpa: anyway, #vbox is the proper place to ask these sorts of questions
[17:28] <subcool> TJ-, im pretty sure its not "broken" - i just dont know how to get it going again..
[17:28] <grandpa> okay thanks
[17:29] <blz> DasEi, sorry but the manpage is greek to me... what am I supposed to be doing?
[17:29] <withgnulinux> can anyone please tell me how can i watch vimeo videos on ubuntu 12.04  *without* installing non-free  software? this desktop newbie would appreciate answers from people who are actually doing do it, rather than from people who go "it should work". thanks
[17:30] <digitalirony> For some reason, in gnome, the little gear button in the top right corner is gone
[17:30] <tmmunq> i believe youtube-dl supprots downloading vimeo, you can then watch it with vlc
[17:30] <digitalirony> and so is the clock
[17:30] <digitalirony> anyone know why?
[17:30] <Cyrax> I dont find the boot thing u told me. here is a photo of my boot options on my bios: http://screencast.com/t/eew7oTgD
[17:30] <grandpa> No one Answer in #vbox?:D
[17:30] <Pici> grandpa: not every channel is as busy as this one, you need to be patient
[17:30] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: try installing chrome and the html5ify plugin
[17:31] <TJ-> blz: gpg --verify /path/to/signature.asc /path/to/signed/file
[17:31] <grandpa> okay, a little new to this thing
[17:31] <blz> TJ-,  I'm getting "Can't check signature, public key not found"
[17:32] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, chrome is non-free
[17:32] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: then you could try Chromium
[17:32] <blz> withgnulinux, gordonjcp I do believe that chromium is free as in freedom
[17:32] <blz> but I could be wrong
[17:33] <TJ-> blz: You'll need to know the key's fingerprint, and then fetch it from the keyserver
[17:33] <blz> TJ-, ah I see... okay
[17:33] <Cyrax> So where on that bios do i choose this boot thing?
[17:34] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, are you actually using chromium to watch vimeo videos without installing any non free software?
[17:35] <nilson> teste
[17:35] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: no
[17:35] <tmmunq> he's either gonna have to use flash or download the video
[17:35] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: basically I suspect there's no easy way to do what you want to do
[17:36] <Cyrax> Wait.. what kind of filytype do i have to have on a DVD to run ubuntu only from a DVD?
[17:36] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: you'd just burn an ISO to the DVD
[17:36] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, thanks for your sincerity. next, please
[17:36] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: don't write it as a file, write it as an image
[17:36] <gordonjcp> !attitude | withgnulinux
[17:36] <Cyrax> wich i did.. but i dont find the boot thing i was told to find
[17:36] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: I told you what would work
[17:36] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: you didn't like it
[17:37] <bazhang> withgnulinux, theres no way to view flash with all free
[17:37] <gordonjcp> withgnulinux: there is no other way to play Vimeo videos, on any OS, without doing what I suggested
[17:37] <bazhang> withgnulinux, please be polite here
[17:37] <tmmunq> download them and watch them with something other than flash! no one listens
[17:37] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: did u get the photo of my boot options on my bios?
[17:38] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: what?
[17:38] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: someone told me to go to my bios and choose something about boot from DV
[17:38] <Cyrax> *DVD
[17:38] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: possibly
[17:38] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, you are wrong. on trisquel (based on ubuntu 12.04) you can certainly watch vimeo videos with the viewtube plugin. unfortunately that solution does not work on proper ubuntu 12.04
[17:39] <Argh> ++
[17:39] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: look: http://screencast.com/t/eew7oTgD <--- this is the photo of my boot options on my bios
[17:39] <Cyrax> idk where to look.. sorry
[17:40] <Xago> Hi people there, I'm thinking to purchase a ASUS laptop with Ubuntu preconfigured. Any comment?
[17:40] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: no idea, you're looking for something like "Boot Order"
[17:40] <Cyrax> before i check.. how do I remove this ubuntu from the startup?
[17:41] <digitalirony> hrmm this is really weird
[17:41] <bekks> Cyrax: Insert a live cd, remove the ubuntu partitions.
[17:41] <digitalirony> why is indicator-applet-complete not installed with gnome anymore?
[17:42] <Cyrax> So u mean i have to do that or reinstall my computer to factory default to remove it?
[17:42] <bekks> Cyrax: Correct.
[17:43] <Cyrax> oh well. as long as it doesnt harm the ubuntu there,i can always do it later.. thanks though.. jsut that the ubuntu from the startup won't start at all. says something about put in the DVD again and restart nad something else i dont remember,then repair the disk as 3rd option
[17:44] <HypnotiX> when i try to run firefox i get an error saying: Your firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inactive, and firefox doesnt open
[17:44] <Zimefeld> Hi
[17:44] <HypnotiX> i tried reinstalling it but still the same error
[17:44] <bekks> Cyrax: Removing the partitions - erases everything on it. It does not only harm, it deletes anything on the harddisk.
[17:44] <Zimefeld> someone here?
[17:44] <bekks> Zimefeld: Several hundreds are here.
[17:44] <Cyrax> ok.. thanks
[17:44] <CountryfiedLinux> Is Ubuntu non-LTS more secure than Debian Sid?
[17:45] <Goatman> Zimefeld, do you have a question?
[17:45] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: We dont know how secure debian sid is.
[17:45] <CountryfiedLinux> bekks: Does Sid receive additonal security updates from Canonical?
[17:45] <holstein> CountryfiedLinux: no
[17:45] <Wulframn> CountryfiedLinux, Canonical had nothing to do with Debian.
[17:46] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: We dont know wether they incorporate ubuntu patches. At least we dont send them to the devs :P
[17:46] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: And after that SSH key desaster - I wont talk about debian and secure anymore :P Just my two cents.
[17:47] <holstein> CountryfiedLinux: debian is debian, and should be researched seperately.. the ubuntu LTS's are supported longer, and the regular releases come out more often.. neither are reported officially more or less secure, or intended as such
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> i've got a question, but i'm not sure where to ask it, regarding a legal issue within a package on the software center... who do i go asking about that?
[17:53] <bekks> TheLordOfTime: The people in here?
[17:53] <Wulframn> !ask
[17:53] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: in the repos? or linked in the software center? AFAIK, those are not equivelant and dont have to me
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, no idea, my ubuntu system is down and i can't check, it ended up popped up on Ask Ubuntu and i'm trying to find someone to actually provide an answer, but since i can't open the software center here (stuck on a windows system) i have no way to answer your question.
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, http://askubuntu.com/questions/332603/what-is-the-process-for-reporting-an-app-with-a-stolen-icon if you want to peek at it
[17:55] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: you can download and run in virtualbox, or a live CD
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, neither is able to be done here at this time, no admin to install vbox, no CD/USB boot on this system
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> (it's a loaner system)
[17:55] <holstein> TheLordOfTime: i dont ever agree with "no way to do something" with open tools.. but, you know your system
[17:56] <holstein> i will not be able to do this for 4 hours or so..
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, it's a loaner system, and on windows to install VBox needs admin because of vbox networking things, I don't have admin on the loaner system, and they disabled USB/CD boot and locked the BIOS
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> holstein, in, oh, three days i'll have my system back (it's being repaired)
[17:57] <Jordan_U> TheLordOfTime: The improperly used icon can be found here as well: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/easyadmin/
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> Jordan_U, thank you.
[17:57] <guzzlefry> Hello, I'm not seeing MySQL Workbench in the Software Center. Is it actually not in the package repository?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> Jordan_U, the question now becomes a legal one - who owns the image, was the image released into the open domain by apple or no?
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> guzzlefry, i think it was removed, but you can still download a .deb installer from the MySQL dev site.
[17:58] <Riptide> hi
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> guzzlefry, http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/tools/workbench/ is the site, you can download the workbench from there and install the package manually.
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> guzzlefry, but you'll have to update by hand.
[17:59] <Riptide> Can anyone help me with Virtualbox on Ubuntu 13.04?
[17:59] <guzzlefry> I'm actually seeing some alternatives that I've never heard of before. :P
[17:59] <Jordan_U> TheLordOfTime: I very much doubt that Apple released that icon so there are almost certainly both copyright and trademark issues with its use.
[17:59] <guzzlefry> That looks pretty good.
[17:59] <Riptide> Whenever I try to run a VirtualMachine, I get this Error: Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes 
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> Jordan_U, then who gets contacted for a violation of legal copyrights within a package?
[17:59] <TheLordOfTime> I'd love to answer their question and tell them a procedure to resolve the legal issue, or remove the offending package/link
[18:00] <Riptide> Can anyone help me?
[18:01] <withgnulinux> gordonjcp, i've just managed to make viewtube play vimeo videos on ubuntu 12.04 but there are still some issues that need to be addressed. watch this space...
[18:01] <deoland> hello i've a problem,I do not get connected to phpmyadmin
[18:02] <withgnulinux> so guys it IS certainly possible to play vimo videos without non-free software on ubuntu 12.04
[18:03] <Jordan_U> TheLordOfTime: I don't know.
[18:05] <Riptide> Hello! Does anyone know how to tfix an Error whenever I try to run a VirtualMachine on OracleVMVirtualMachine?
[18:06] <minidino> How can I backup GRUB so it can be restored after a windows installation to another partition?
[18:07] <Tomy2938> I had to configured the filesystems the hard way, hardcoding the UID and GID in order to work properly, at least is working for CIFS. ;-)
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> minidino, Not really needed you just need to reload the grub bootloader.
[18:09] <minidino> wilee-nilee: i am assuming this could be done from an ubuntu liveCD?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> minidino, Yes many use the bootrepair app, this is a mbr setup?
[18:10] <Cyrax> I tried to start the ubuntu from startup... but i got this.. file: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr , Status:0xC000007b ,, what does it mean?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> rather than a gpt uefi...etc minidino
[18:11] <apb1963> so this morning I replugged in my router.  It got a fresh IP and my MAC is no longer cloned... I can ping & tracert from windoze XP.  I can ping, but NOT traceroute from ubuntu - it stops at my router.  Googlesync on XP will not connect.  Any  ideas?
[18:12] <minidino> yes it probably will be. I actually havent set it up yet just planning on how the new installation will go
[18:12] <TJ-> apb1963: Did you try tracepath/tracert "-n" on Linux - that will avoid any DNS lookups, which might be the issue on the Linux side (wrong resolver settings)
[18:13] <apb1963> I did not.  But I will try now.
[18:14] <swcdx> Hi any decent bandwith meter/download monitor with graphics?? I have been looking for one and no luck. Any apps suggestions? TIA
[18:15] <Cyrax> So what does that mean that I mentioned.. seems ubuntu won't start when i choose ubuntu.. any way to fix it?
[18:15] <apb1963> No such option.  I should point out however that it does in fact resolve the domain.  I should also point out that I've also tried with an IP address and get the same stopage at the router.  I should also point out, I can ping.  So DNS is not the issue.
[18:16] <samples> yo
[18:17] <genii> Cyrax: With wubi can be any number of problems. Especially if it starts involving UEFI, Win 8, or raid
[18:17] <Cyrax> Any way i cna fix it?
[18:17] <Cyrax> *can
[18:17] <Cyrax> so i can really start run ubuntu from dvd only
[18:17] <apb1963> tracepath I've never used before... trying that is interesting... the hop after the router says "no reply".  That says to me the router is blocking return packets.... yes?
[18:17] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Please elaborate on the point about your MAC address no longer being cloned. Are you really connecting to a router or just a modem?
[18:18] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: configure your PC to boot from removable media and burn the image to a disk
[18:18] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: these days, you'd be better using a USB stick
[18:18] <apb1963> TP Link router
[18:18] <apb1963> which connects to my ISP's modem
[18:18] <apb1963> or... MTA as they call it :)
[18:18] <Cyrax> So u mean usb is more secure?
[18:18] <TJ-> apb1963: No, "no reply" means that when the TTL matches that router, it refuses to do ICMP replies. It isn't refusing to route through-traffic though
[18:18] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: secure in what sense?
[18:19] <Cyrax> that nothing goes wrong like it did now
[18:19] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: mostly it means you don't have to travel back in time to the 1990s to find a PC with an optical drive
[18:19] <apb1963> tj- I don't understand what when the Time-To-Live "matches that router" means.
[18:20] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Is the router performing NAT between the network that your computers are on and the MTA? You also still haven't elaborated on the MAC address cloning comment you made.
[18:20] <apb1963> It's 1 hop away
[18:20] <Cyrax> How do I burn as iso on a usb stick :o
[18:22] <TJ-> apb1963: tracepath/route work by sending ICMP packages with a restricted TTL. TTL starts at 1 and increases. A router receiving a packet decrements the TTL. If it reaches 0 it doesn't forward it onward, but it *should* reply to the originator with an ICMP response telling it "TTL exceeded". Many routers are configured not to do that to prevent Denial of Service attacks, and therefore you get a "no reply" when tracing the route
[18:22] <apb1963> Jordan_U: I have to assume it is, though there's no option to explicitly turn it on.  It's providing a private address by way of DHCP.  In regard to MAC cloning, when I first got the router on Monday, I needed to clone my address to make it work.  For the last 6 months my ISP has been giving me the same DHCP address.
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, There are handfuls of usb loaders unetbootin is commonly used there are some that allow multiple ISO's
[18:22] <Cyrax> What if i jsut transfer the ubuntu.iso to the usb stick?
[18:23] <ajeffco> then you're just carrying around an iso image on a usb stick
[18:23] <TJ-> apb1963: If your ISP requires MAC cloning, and the MAC has cloned to another device on the LAN already, that might explain why the ISP modem/router won't forward packets from the Linux PC
[18:23] <esing> How do I install gummiboot on ubuntu?
[18:23] <Cyrax> can u tell me how i burn it on a usb stick and what i need to use? i never done that before
[18:23] <esing> I cloned its git. How to proceed at this point?
[18:23] <apb1963> TJ-: So in order to work, tracepath/route restart a new "round" of ICMP packets with a higher number each time it gets a new response?
[18:23] <esing> There's no installation instruction file
[18:24] <Jordan_U> Cyrax: You don't "burn" USB sticks, or any other kind of hard drive. What OS will you be setting up the USB drive from?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> !who | Cyrax be sure to use nicks
[18:24] <Cyrax> i have windows 8 64 bit
[18:24] <Jordan_U> Cyrax: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:25] <apb1963> TJ-: The MAC is not cloned as of this morning.
[18:25] <apb1963> Last night I had so many problems I disconnected the router entirely.
[18:25] <TJ-> apb1963: Correct. It sends a packet with TTL 1, then 2, then 3... and stops when it reaches the target host. If they all do 'no reply' it'll carry on for a long time until it gives up without 'finding' the target
[18:26] <Jordan_U> apb1963: You had to clone what MAC address? What did you actually do?
[18:26] <apb1963> So it sounds like my issue is that I need to set forwarding on the router.
[18:27] <apb1963> Jordan_U: I had to clone XP's address.
[18:27] <apb1963> mac address
[18:27] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | root__
[18:27] <root__> help
[18:27] <Jordan_U> apb1963: So you had two different machines, on the same network, using the same MAC address?
[18:27] <apb1963> no
[18:28] <root__> salama "D
[18:28] <apb1963> maybe
[18:28] <MonkeyDu1t> root__  whatever your question, start by not being root
[18:28] <apb1963> let me think a minute
[18:28] <Jordan_U> apb1963: What did you actually do? Please state explicitly the steps you took.
[18:29] <xibalba> is it easy to setup a local apt mirror?
[18:30] <xibalba> how much space does it require, and how do you keep up to date
[18:30] <TJ-> apb1963: Usually, modem MAC cloning means the modem adopts the first MAC it sees on the LAN side, and refuses to route packets for another other MAC
[18:30] <Akronix> is not possible customize nautilus toolbar?
[18:31] <apb1963> I logged into the router (on Monday).  I set it up.  It didn't work.  I called tech support.  They said to try cloning the MAC address.  So I went to that menu item on the router and clicked on "clone MAC address"
[18:31] <apb1963> Cloning made it work.
[18:31] <apb1963> I've had to do that previously for VMware as well.
[18:32] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Ahh, so it was the router cloning a MAC address rather than either of the computers. That changes things.
[18:32] <apb1963> Yes
[18:32] <root__> AnyBody Can Speak Persian ?
[18:32] <MonkeyDu1t> !ir
[18:32] <xibalba> root__
[18:32] <xibalba> man hafe farsi khalee koocheek
[18:32] <root__> Kesi Irani
[18:32] <root__> Has
[18:33] <root__> :D
[18:33] <root__> ?
[18:33] <FloodBot1> root__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <root__> =))
[18:33] <xibalba> root__, go kill the ayatollah
[18:33] <gordonjcp> xibalba: inappropriate
[18:33] <root__> ajaba :|
[18:35] <apb1963> test
[18:36] <zorael> How can I verify GRUB installed itself into MBR successfully before rebooting?
[18:36] <zorael> (from a recovery terminal)
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> zorael, how did you load grub to the mbr?
[18:37] <TJ-> zorael: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" and look for the tell-tale text strings
[18:37] <Akronix> last version nautilus dissappointed me...
[18:37] <Akronix> which is better thunar or nemo??
[18:38] <zorael> TJ-: thanks
[18:38] <apb1963> I guess I can try cloning again and see if that fixes the "missing pieces" that aren't working... I'm just afraid that will break those things that are in fact working now.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> Akronix, better is an opinion.
[18:38] <zorael> wilee-nilee: I'm trying to restore one that went bananas
[18:38] <TJ-> zorael: Here's what you should see http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986024/
[18:38] <Akronix> I know, I ask your opinion
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> zorael, And can you answer the question?
[18:38] <cornfeedhobo> can someone tell me how to kill xorg and drop to shell?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> !better | Akronix
[18:39] <bazhang> cornfeedhobo, on boot?
[18:39] <zorael> wilee-nilee: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda, but I'm told that it still refused to boot.
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> zorael, From a live cd?
[18:39] <cornfeedhobo> bazhang: no, just once. I need to create an xorg.conf to fix some display issuse.
[18:39] <zorael> wilee-nilee: Yes
[18:40] <apb1963> I would think if it was the MAC that was the problem, nothing would be working.
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> zorael, THis a mbr set up no uefi or gpt?
[18:40] <cornfeedhobo> bazhang: i tried booting into single but then it's a ro filesystem and its just a huge hassle
[18:40] <MoPac> I'm curious about whether there are coming improvements (or good current alternatives) to the built-in system monitor application that can do a better job displaying which program is actually taking up what resources? It can be pretty annoying to see so many instances of "java" or "kworker" that are different things
[18:40] <cornfeedhobo> i just forget how to kill the current xorg session
[18:40] <cornfeedhobo> without actually killing it
[18:40] <bazhang> cornfeedhobo, boot as normal,drop to tty, stop the xserver then proceed?
[18:40] <dillon101001> need help booting off usb
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> !details | dillon101001
[18:41] <apb1963> I mean right now we're basically talking about specific services that aren't working.
[18:41] <dillon101001> it repeatedly says syslinux 4.04 and hangs when i use usb
[18:41] <cornfeedhobo> bazhang: yeah but what is the service name? i am using kubuntu so i tried khm, but it doesnt appear to be in use. (i am normally a gentoo guy)
[18:42] <TJ-> apb1963: Can you get external access using IP addresses alone? In other words, have to proved this isn't just a DNS resolver issue?
[18:42] <zorael> wilee-nilee: MBR. gdisk said there was a garbage GPT header, but even after having zapped it we get No Operating System Found. The hexdump confirms that it is indeed in place, which makes it all the more curious
[18:42] <dillon101001> ive used lili usb creator
[18:42] <soap_> Can't dual boot ubuntu 12.04 and windows8 in asus 1015e? Please Help
[18:42] <dillon101001> and am trying unetbootin
[18:42] <TJ-> zorael: If the disk was GPT then it is possible what you're looking at is the protective MBR
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> zorael, This gpt made by a user an apple computer or W8?
[18:43] <dillon101001> if you use an asus repeatedly click esc on startup
[18:43] <bazhang> cornfeedhobo, not sure about kubuntu, perhaps #kubuntu can shed some light on that
[18:43] <cornfeedhobo> bazhang: k
[18:43] <cornfeedhobo> thx
[18:43] <zorael> TJ-: Would make sense as its disk identifier is 0x00000000
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | soap_
[18:43] <apb1963> skype works, but googlesync doesn't, although gmail does.  << These all being on XP.
[18:44] <zorael> wilee-nilee: Originally W8
[18:44] <soap_> dillon101001: Then what?
[18:44] <apb1963> On ubuntu, I can ping but I cannot traceroute/path whether by domain or by IP address.
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> soap_, More uefi stuff,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
[18:45] <apb1963> I'm running 12.04 LTS server
[18:45] <esing> How do I install gummiboot on ubuntu, is that even possible yet?
[18:45] <TJ-> apb1963: Ping what? ping an external site? Can you also telnet to a HTTP server using its ip address?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> zorael, Uefi is a beyond my learned area, make sure that info is known by whoever helps you, especially a removed W8.
[18:45] <esing> It seems no one has done that before
[18:45] <apb1963> yes ping  yahoo.com
[18:45] <esing> I don't find any google hit for that
[18:46] <zorael> wilee-nilee, TJ-: Managed to get it aright, thanks for the help
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> zorael, Cool.
[18:46] <dillon101001> is this the only irc?
[18:46] <apb1963> what http server shall I telnet to?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> dillon101001, For?
[18:46] <dillon101001> ubuntu support
[18:47] <apb1963> the only http server I have is the same ubuntu machine.
[18:47] <TJ-> apb1963: Why hot one of the archive.ubuntu.com machines? 91.189.92.201
[18:47] <soap_> Is there any step by step guide?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !who | dillon101001
[18:47] <TJ-> apb1963: You know how to do a manual HTTP session using telnet?
[18:47] <dillon101001> im trying to boot off usb but it keeps saying syslinux 4.04 1994-2011 et alvin
[18:48] <apb1963> Trying 91.189.92.201... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[18:48] <dillon101001> ill try again and report back when im done.
[18:48] <TJ-> apb1963: "telnet 91.189.92.201 80" (note the port number there, else it'll try port 23) then send "GET / HTTP/1.0" then press Enter twice
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> dillon101001, Basically yes, there are some desktop irc channel, you can search the channels. Have you checked the ISO's md5sum?
[18:49] <Akronix> !tab
[18:49] <apb1963> it connects
[18:50] <TJ-> apb1963: OK, so that proves you have external connectivity. Now try it using the hostname not the IP address "archive.ubuntu.com" and see if you get DNS resolving
[18:50] <apb1963> it connects
[18:51] <TJ-> apb1963: So what is the problem with the Ubuntu machine again? :D
[18:51] <apb1963> traceroute doesn't get past the router
[18:51] <TJ-> apb1963: Anything else; I'd suggest you need to check the firewall rules. Well, maybe the router blocks outgoing ICMP ?
[18:51] <apb1963> If it blocked ICMP, then ping wouldn't work
[18:52] <apb1963> But ping works
[18:52] <apb1963> unless ubuntu ping uses something other than ICMP?
[18:52] <apb1963> I haven't setup iptables yet, everyting is wide open
[18:52] <richwestcoast> how do i create a folder structure on the fly? say i > vim /home/folder/to/create/readme.txt i want /folder/to/create to exist
[18:53] <apb1963> plus... XP IS able to tracert
[18:54] <TJ-> apb1963: maybe you need to do a UDP trace route
[18:54] <apb1963> how?
[18:54] <TJ-> apb1963: Then, as I said before, your router is dropping icmp with low TTLs for any device not having the cloned MAC... probably
[18:55] <wizard_A> i followed the steps on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410, but stii i'm getting an access denied error?
[18:55] <apb1963> Currently, NO devices are cloned.
[18:56] <TJ-> apb1963: tracepath uses ICMP; traceroute uses UDP
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !details > wizard_A A link  is not enough
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> !details > wizard_A
[18:57] <Cyrax> I finally can go into ubuntu's menu where i choose to run ubuntu from USB.. after awhile,i get to a terminal only.. what do I need to install to b able toget into ubuntu dekstop?
[18:57] <dillonoliviero> hi
[18:57] <TJ-> apb1963: "tracepath -I UDP -p 65432" will do UDP
[18:57] <TJ-> apb1963: "traceroute -I UDP -p 65432" will do UDP
[18:57] <TJ-> apb1963: ignore the tracepath command; I mistyped!
[18:57] <wizard_A> yeah i was trying the location of file uploading portion
[18:57] <apb1963> traceroute (GNU inetutils) 1.8
[18:58] <apb1963> traceroute: invalid option -- 'I'
[18:59] <TJ-> apb1963: ahh, the option changed. try -P
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Use nicks if you are talking to someone, and state details otherwise, not everyone was on since you have been working on issues.
[19:00] <Cyrax> wiliee-nilee: So what i need to type in the terminal to b able to get into the desktop of ubuntu.. I got into menu of ubuntu where i choose to run it from usb.. then after that
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, THat makes no sense to me.
[19:00] <Cyrax> woops
[19:01] <anonymous1> channel topic
[19:02] <wizard_A> i created a public_html and placed a few folders with my websites within them but i get access denied?
[19:03] <Cyrax> wilee-nilee: I burned the ubuntu on usb,restarted it.. changed things in the bios,so i could start it from usb.. then i got into the menu of ubuntu where i could choose to run ubuntu from usb.. i choosed that.. after that I got to the terminal. what I wonder,is.. what do I type interminal to be able to get into ubuntu desktop itself?
[19:03] <wizard_A> please tell me what should be the perms for the folder
[19:03] <dillonoliviero> what is the brand of your computer? asus are very diffucult
[19:04] <dillonoliviero> difficult*
[19:04] <apb1963> traceroute -M udp -p 65432 yahoo.com  is what *should* work.  I tried both udp & icmp.  Neither works, but this is the correct usage for this version of traceroute.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Burn to a usb is confusing, how did you load the usb, it should go to the desktop automatically.
[19:04] <apb1963> although -p is port.  I'm not sure if that's what you meant for me to do?
[19:04] <Cyrax> well.. it got me to options where i could choose to run it from usb.. then it got me to the terminal only
[19:04] <soap_> any way to install ubuntu 12.04 with windows8 in asus 1015E?
[19:05] <Cyrax> and i use same ubuntu.iso file for the virtualbox
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> !who | Cyrax
[19:05] <Emmy1> hi
[19:05] <Cyrax> it was ment for wilee-nilee
[19:05] <dillonoliviero> hello
[19:06] <soap_> is any one there to help ?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Answer questions, extra info just confuses things, so you loaded the usb in a virtualbox what was the OS and waht was the app used?
[19:07] <janne_> hi
[19:07] <dillonoliviero> helli
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> soap_, I gave you multiple links have you looked at them?
[19:07] <janne_> i have a question about desktop environments.
[19:07] <dillonoliviero> hello*
[19:07] <soap_> wilee-ailee: yes
[19:07] <dillonoliviero> what>
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Ask them to get help.
[19:07] <janne_> i run ubuntu 13.04, when i install cinnamon or gnome, all apps remain the same
[19:08] <janne_> wilee-nilee, i was typing...
[19:08] <soap_> wilee-nilee: yes
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> soap_, Uefi booting is not best served here I would post a thread at the ubuntu forum if you get no help here.
[19:08] <dillonoliviero> yes, You an still download a gnome app from kde or vice versa
[19:08] <Cyrax> no no, wilee-nilee. i ment that i cna run perfectly ubuntu via virtualbox.. but when i burned the ubuntu.iso into usb nad restarted computer,it got me into options where i chould choose to run it from usb.. i choosed that and it got me only into terminal.  and i use same ubuntu.iso file
[19:09] <janne_> dillonoliviero, yes i know that, but is there no "package" for lets say gnome? so i can get all the standard apps when i install a new enviroment?
[19:09] <dillonoliviero> yes.
[19:09] <soap_> wilee-nilee: ok, UEFI has realy messed op to joy of dual booting!!! BIOS (RIP)
[19:09] <janne_> dillonoliviero, how do i do that?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Right that is not normal, so as with your original problems just getting vbox install you are in a similar place with the usb. So details are important here did you check the sum of the ISO, and how did you load it to the usb?
[19:10] <dillonoliviero> you can get them by the software installer
[19:10] <anonymous1> any one can teach me about my anonymous os
[19:10] <johnjohn101> UEFI is evil. back to regular programming
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> soap_, It has its issues. ;)
[19:10] <janne_> dillonoliviero, yes i know that 2, but i want a whole package with all gnome standard apps
[19:10] <bazhang> !ot | anonymous1
[19:11] <Cyrax> the iso is the same on both,usb adn virtualbox.. and the ubuntu runs fine via virtualbox
[19:11] <dillonoliviero> there is no file that contains all the apps as that would be massive
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Cool, announcing a question does not benefit you, just asking it does. ;)
[19:11] <soap_> wilee-nilee: can I go to the ASUS guys for help? will they help?
[19:11] <dillonoliviero> at least not that i know of.
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> soap_, NOt sure, I would be surprised if they ever heard of ubuntu.
[19:11] <anonymous1> but this is a ubuntu flatform
[19:12] <Cyrax> that was for wilee-nilee too. woops,forgot to mention nick
[19:12] <janne_> dillonoliviero, okay, so i have to search manually for all the apps that come with gnome and then download them 1 by 1?
[19:12] <soap_> wilee-nilee: yeah!
[19:12] <bazhang> janne_, ubuntu-desktop
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, And how did you load it to the usb with what app?
[19:12] <janne_> bazhang, yes?
[19:12] <bazhang> !metapackage | janne_
[19:13] <Cyrax> wilee-nilee: i dont remember what i changed.. but i changed something in the bios
[19:13] <janne_> bazhang, i see, thank you
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, WE are not going to be able to work together, best of luck.
[19:13] <bazhang> janne_, kubuntu-desktop for kde, xubuntu-desktop for xfce and so on
[19:13] <janne_> bazhang, omg! that is wonderful, thank you so much
[19:13] <Cyrax> anyone else who can help here?
[19:14] <Cyrax> i'm sorry, wilee-nilee.. i'm not so good to explain good
[19:14] <bekks> Cyrax: Whats your exact problem then?
[19:14] <soap_> ADIOS AMIGOS
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, All you have to do is answer questions and leave out the what you think is relevant.
[19:15] <Cyrax> my problem,is that i want to run only from usb stick.. nad i did burn it on usb stick and changed things in bios to let it run from usb. then I restarted my computer and then it got me to options.. there i could choose to run ubuntu from usb wich i did,then it restarted and got me into terminal only
[19:16] <Cyrax> that was for wilee-nilee..
[19:16] <bazhang> Cyrax, and whats this about vbox
[19:16] <bekks> Cyrax: vbox cant boot from usb, btw.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Answer bekks and bazhang they are top grade helpers.
[19:16] <Cyrax> about vbox is that i use same ubuntu file there as well and on vbox it runs just fine..
[19:17] <bazhang> Cyrax, whats your native language
[19:18] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, bekks you mean :)
[19:18] <Cyrax> bekks: that was for u.. and i need to get into desktop from usb,but it didnt.. do i have to type any command to get into desktop of ubuntu OR need a different ubuntu.iso? i dont know what to do
[19:19] <Cyrax> bekks: sorry for bad explaination
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, Heh, you do all right to. ;)
[19:19] <bekks> Cyrax: You cant get "in your desktop" from USB, because its not "your" desktop, but the desktop from the USB which would be loaded. So whats the actual problem you are trying to solve by booting from USB?
[19:20] <Cyrax> i want to b in the desktop via usb just like i do via vbox
[19:21] <bekks> Cyrax: How did you create the USB bootable medium then?
[19:22] <Cyrax> bekks: i just dont remember.. i dont follow much about that,but i did make it
[19:22] <bekks> Cyrax: Then try to remember it, because thats an important detail.
[19:23] <Cyrax> i used Universal usb installer
[19:25] <bekks> Cyrax: And which Ubuntu iso very exactly did you use?
[19:25] <Cyrax> bekks: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[19:25] <ubuntuissue> So i have run into an issue wih my desktop. My procrssor died tuesday, got a new mobo and processor today. When i go to boot, it cant find the drive that mounts home. I have tried an expansion sata card and directly to the mobo. I am not sure what is wrong woth the drive though because when it says (attempt to remount or press a key) it fails and when i plug the usb de ice in it fails to enumerate the fevice.
[19:26] <ubuntuissue> Sorry for any spelling errors i am on a phone right now trying to diagnose the issue.
[19:26] <fruct> hello all
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> ubuntuissue, ##hardware might be some good help
[19:26] <dillonoliviero> HELLO
[19:26] <ubuntuissue> I have tried using the onboard usb 2.0 and 3.0 and each one comes with a dailure. When booting into a live cd usb devicrs fail to work then as wrll.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> dillonoliviero, keep it support or questions this is not chat but support. ;)
[19:31] <Cyrax> So what I do, bekks?
[19:31] <ubuntuissue> wilee-nilee are there a lot of issues with uefi motherboards and ubuntu?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> ubuntuissue, I have no idea.
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> seem to be but you have replace one I would ask in ##hardware ubuntuissue
[19:32] <ubuntuissue> I have just waiting
[19:33] <anonymous1> blackhat??? help me pls
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> ubuntuissue, Cool, a bit of a complex question, not sure the irc is your best source.
[19:33] <ubuntuissue> Well due to only having a phone, right now irc is the easiest way to communicate atm
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> anonymous1, This is canonical ubuntu support only.
[19:35] <Cyrax> do i have wrong type of ubuntu.iso file,bekks?
[19:37] <SteveH_> It has been far too long since I played with /dev/tty* devices.  I bought a usb<->serial cable, but when I try to use it, I get "could not open port /dev/ttyUSB0: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/dev/ttyUSB0'"  It has crw-rw--- permissions.  Any thoughts??
[19:38] <JethroTroll> ubuntuissue's issue is an ubuntu issue - stop sending him elsewhere.
[19:38] <ubuntuissue> I will have a video up soo  that hopefully can help resolve the problem.
[19:39] <genii> SteveH_: When you issue: groups      ...does it show your user in the plugdev and dialout groups?
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> mmm passive aggressive posting
[19:39] <TJ-> SteveH_: You may need be a member of the dialout group - what group owns the device node?
[19:39] <ubuntuissue> I only have 4 hiura left to resolve this. The worst possible time that all these evwbts could have happened.
[19:39] <ubuntuissue> 4hours
[19:39] <SteveH_> dialout.  Hmmm, let me see if I'm in the group.
[19:39] <Cyrax> i really dont know what to do, bekks.. either i am missing something or rwong ubuntu file
[19:40] <Cyrax> *wrong
[19:41] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I suspect your problem is, the new motherboard contains hardware devices that the Linux kernel installed with the Ubuntu installation has no drivers for. That isn't unexpected for new hardware. The solution may be to install an Ubuntu mainline kernel package with Linux v3.10 or v3.11rc5, from  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[19:41] <esing> Hawkerz Finally refind was recognized by my laptop. I had to rename its efi label entry to 'Windows Boot Manager". This sony laptop has a very bad efi bios, makes things complicated.
[19:41] <jhutchins> ubuntuissue: I would guess that either the CPU caused damage when it failed, or something else that caused it to fail also did other damage.
[19:41] <Cyrax> maybe i should try agian and write some of what i see.. maybe then its better,bekks
[19:42] <Cyrax> brb again
[19:42] <jhutchins> ubuntuissue: This also means you're risking the new CPU by running it on a possibly damaged motherboard.
[19:42] <nowayride> He replaced the mobo
[19:42] <ubuntuissue> TJ- how can i do that when i cant boot the system due to it not finding the home mohnt locatikn
[19:42] <ubuntuissue> I did replace both the motherboard and proc
[19:42] <jhutchins> ubuntuissue: Also possible that the filesystem was damaged.  fsck?
[19:42] <esing> Hawkerz This laptop has no bios option where you can set the efi boot order nor does it recogize efibootmgr => bigger issue
[19:42] <dillonoliviero> rebooting and will tell you the end result of unetbootin as opposed to lili
[19:43] <nowayride> ubuntuissue: so the hd shows in the bios?
[19:43] <jhutchins> ubuntuissue: Do the power supply voltages look ok?  (In BIOS)
[19:43] <ubuntuissue> Hold on... Let me post the video
[19:43] <ubuntuissue> Should hopefully be done soon
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> !who > dillonoliviero
[19:44] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: What PC are you using right now? You can use that download the packages. You should also be able to take the hard disk out of the failed PC and connect it to another, then mount its hard disk in the working PC, and install the kernel packages via a chroot
[19:44] <ubuntuissue>  I am usinf a phone right now
[19:44] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Ahhh.
[19:45] <ubuntuissue> Unfortunatwly i dont have another desktop to work with, i have a laptop but no external connector
[19:45] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: hang on whilst I grep everything you've written so far so I can catch up!
[19:45] <ubuntuissue> Jhutchins i think it is attempting fsck, not sure though
[19:46] <ubuntuissue> Sorry hard to type easily and multitask on a phone like this
[19:46] <ubuntuissue> Video is at 33 percent last i checked so... Hopefilly you guys can see what is happenibg
[19:46] <SteveH_> Genii & TJ-: I added myself to the groups (plugout and dialout) and restarted the application but still no joy.  Same error message.
[19:46] <TJ-> ubuntu3: Let's start from the basics. The PC will boot and BIOS/UEFI will load the GRUB bootloader, which loads the Linux kernel which fails?
[19:47] <jhutchins> ubuntuissue: It would be better if you described it.  I'm unlikely to watch a video.
[19:47] <TJ-> oops!!
[19:47] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Let's start from the basics. The PC will boot and BIOS/UEFI will load the GRUB bootloader, which loads the Linux kernel which fails?
[19:47] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: So, my next thought is, why not press Shift as it boots and get to the GRUB menu, then enter GRUB's command mode and do some basic fsck stuff to determine if you can identify a problem?
[19:48] <genii> SteveH_: Group changes won't take effect until next logout/login cycle. And it should be plugdev group, not plugout ( hopefully!).
[19:48] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: It would help if you tell us the release/version of Ubuntu installed on the hard disk *and* the make/model of the new motherboard
[19:49] <ubuntuissue> Jhutchins & tj- , correct the machine boots through bios/uefi, load grub. Keyboard works fine. Grub boot menu, press enter to boot into ubuntu , keyboard works fine. Boots to ubuntu, keybiard shuts off, drives boot but complains
[19:49] <ubuntuissue> Keybiard diesnt work at this point.
[19:49] <ubuntuissue> 70% on video
[19:50] <ubuntuissue> Model of mobo is GH igabyte ud3 990fxa
[19:50] <SteveH_> Sorry, genii, thinko problem with the plugdev.  I'll try to open a new term, before I try a full on logout.  Too much "working" stuff.
[19:50] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: That sounds like file system corruption to me, even if the f/s is ok inode-wise, it sounds as if some data areas belonging to files have been corrupted
[19:50] <ubuntuissue> Proc is amd fx 8350
[19:51] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: OK, let me look that mobo up to be clear on the driver support
[19:51] <jhonnyboii> somebody here available to help me get my web cam working on firefox?
[19:51] <jhonnyboii> using ubuntu
[19:51] <SteveH_> Obviously I really have to logout. [sigh]
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> jhonnyboii, Does it work with the cheese app?
[19:52] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: which version of Ubuntu? That is important to know since it tells us which kernel is installed and therefore what hardware it might not be able to handle
[19:52] <jhonnyboii> yes it workes there, but not in firefox
[19:52] <jhonnyboii> what is wrong?
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> jhonnyboii, Not sure just making sure it works at all, details are important here.
[19:52] <ubuntuissue>  13.04 - server. I know this is not the server channel, i figure rhe provlem also might occur at the desktop level though as eell sibce these are cobsumer boards
[19:53] <jhonnyboii> cool. really helpful if you can solve this
[19:53] <ubuntuissue> Kerlenl is 3.8.0-27-generic
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> jhonnyboii, I doubt I can, sorry. ;)
[19:54] <ubuntuissue> I can biot into the minimal grub unterface if that would help at all.
[19:55] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I'm still digging... found something that might help on the Gigabyte forums. Apparently, the not-booting-from-USB issue is a common problem for Gigabyte motherboards, and the issue is usually that it will only boot from the rear mobo-mounted USB ports but not the front-mounted extension ports in the case. Have you tried booting via the rear USB ports?
[19:55] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I am assuming you have a USB flash drive to try of course!
[19:55] <affine> hi everyone
[19:55] <ubuntuissue> I am using the rear usb ports. I do have a usb drive but none that have any form of linux installed
[19:55] <affine> Is there a way to set the alt-tab behavior to work for all windows and not just application instances?
[19:56] <affine> such that if I have multiple firefox windows open, it'll list each window in the alt+tab widget instead of just one instance of firefox
[19:56] <ubuntuissue> Tj- ^
[19:57] <affine> you _can_ use the arrow keys and right click on the alt+tab icons, but that's a little foreign feeling to me :(
[19:57] <affine> interesting feature nonetheless
[19:58] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: OK. Next thing I read was that this mobo (revision 3) also has issues supporting 64-bit Linux and is documented at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111223   Is it a 64-bit install of Ubuntu on the hard disk?
[19:58] <ubuntuissue> It is. And i do have the rev 3.0 mobo
[19:58] <ubuntuissue> Well crap
[19:58] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I also read that this may help you "I was able to get my system working by setting IOMMU to ENABLED in the bios"
[19:59] <e-v-o> I've installed upadtes on 12.10 and now it hangs at the purple boot screen! I have the ATI Radeon driver installed. Could this be interfeering?
[19:59] <ubuntuissue> Hold on leylt me try.
[19:59] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: If you want me to do some Googling on your behalf tell me; I know how difficult it is on a 'phone to chase down links quickly
[20:00] <TJ-> e-v-o: If you mean at the splash screen, you ought to be able to press the Escape key to see the kernel boot messages and OS startup messages to get some idea why it is getting stuck
[20:00] <SteveH_> TJ_ and genii:  Your suggestions were good and timely.  I can now talk to my radio!
[20:00] <ubuntuissue> Found that option. Lets see if it boots
[20:00]  * TJ- crosses things for ubuntuissue 
[20:01] <e-v-o> TJ- thanks, will try that
[20:01] <ubuntuissue> Tj- mind if i pm you the video
[20:02] <darkelfjuggalo> how do i kill a process, my skype crashed and i forced closd but i thhink it runs in the back ground
[20:02] <e-v-o> TJ- pressing Esc does absolutely nothing
[20:03] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: something else occurs to me; you could get into the GRUB boot menu, highlight the Recovery item, press "E" (to edit it) and then edit the kernel command line and add to the end of it "init=/bin/dash". If you then Ctrl+X (to boot it with that option added) you *should* find it loads Linux and the initial RAMdisk, and drops you to a shell prompt without starting the rest of the system, which might give you enough tools to test the failing mount points b
[20:03] <TJ-> efore rebooting and trying it for real
[20:03] <ubuntuissue> Hmmm... When enabling th iommu feature, i run unto more issues
[20:03] <ubuntuissue> I get to initramfs
[20:03] <zorg24> I'm on a lenovo laptop (W530) my touchpad is acting very its scrolling when I touch it with only one finger (I'm using the nipple right now)
[20:04] <MR-IT> HI
[20:04] <MR-IT> im new here no mic here??
[20:04] <TJ-> e-v-o: That's not helpful! Hmmm, try intercepting the GRUB boot by holding down Shift as the PC boots. As soon as the GRUB boot menu is displayed choose the Recovery option and see how it goes
[20:04] <zorg24> ya MR-IT irc is text only
[20:05] <MR-IT> oh thnks i donot now
[20:05] <MR-IT> im using bugtraq what u think about it??
[20:05] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: OK, well IOMMU should be enabled whatever! So that is progress. From the initrd you ought to be able to investigate the block devices /dev/block/ ? and check what tools are installed in the rootfs to do fsck and other things on all the partitions/LVs
[20:05] <aaron__> c
[20:05] <e-v-o> TJ- tried that already as suggested on some forum but the Recovery option takes me to a menu and when I try to login from there it doesn;t seem to accept my root password
[20:06] <e-v-o> TJ- I assume the root password is the same as the sudo password?
[20:07] <TJ-> e-v-o: "root" doesn't/shouldn't have a password! When you go to recovery the menu -as far as I remember it - should give you a set of options including Drop to a shell, which would let you run tools to find out what is wrong
[20:08] <e-v-o> When I select "Drop to root shell prompt" form the Recovery Menu it says "Give root password for maintenance"
[20:09] <TJ-> e-v-o: which version of Ubuntu is this?
[20:09] <e-v-o> 12.10
[20:09] <ubuntuissue> So init=/bin/dash just needs to go at they very bottom of the text there?
[20:09] <ubuntuissue> Does it need to be indented ornis it fine on the very left
[20:11] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Just on the end of the line, separated by a space
[20:11] <TJ-> Make sure you're editing the line that begins "linux:" and not the line below it. The options wrap around and it can be unclear
[20:12] <TJ-> e-v-o: I'm trying to reproduce that here in a virtual machine
[20:12] <ubuntuissue> Is thwre a rwcommended image host for mobile phones
[20:12] <TJ-> e-v-o: Wow! I see what you mean. there's something changed big-time there!
[20:13] <e-v-o> TJ- thanks a million for trying though
[20:14] <ubuntuissue> http://imgur.com/WjvDeI7
[20:14] <ubuntuissue> Are what i am seeing
[20:15] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Yay, thanks! The mount of the rootfs is failing, due to an invalid argument. I can see the UUID there
[20:15] <rmobenchain> I'm wanting to install an internet filter on my computer.  Am runnning 13.04.  any suggestions
[20:15] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: You notice before that, the fsck of sda1 is failing with "no valid superblock" ?
[20:15] <ubuntuissue> Yeah...
[20:16] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: If this is a bad situ, then that file-system in sda1 is hosed. If it is a good situation, that is only happening because of the incompatibility of that mobo and the kernel being booted (as is shown by those earlier error messages showing IO page faults)
[20:17] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: So, we have to determine which it is
[20:17] <kristoffer> hello!
[20:17] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Are you at a dash shell prompt now? Did adding that to the kernel command-line work?
[20:18] <ubuntuissue> Not that i can see. I am still only at initramfs with busybox and nothing else
[20:18] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: That's where you want to be :)
[20:18] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: We can check what tools are there for you to do more checks now.
[20:19] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: First, lets see what's installed. The executable tools will be in the "/sbin/", "/bin/" and possibly "/usr/sbin" "/usr/bin" directories. I think the latter two directories aren't usually in the initrd. You can do "ls /sbin" etc. to check what tools are installed.
[20:21] <TJ-> e-v-o: I found an explanation on how you can get into the Recovery on that system. See this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword#The_Other_Way
[20:22] <ubuntuissue> http://imgur.com/fLJtv6t TJ
[20:23] <karen_> I think Lubuntu channel quit. So, I accidentally erased my time and date from my bottom panel yesterday when I was setting up Lubuntu. How do I get it back?
[20:24] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: excuse me for a mo... i have a Siberian Husky sitting on my lap!
[20:24] <e-v-o> TJ- what the heck is happening that instead of becoming muse intuitive Ubuntu seems to be creating mor ehoops to jump through to get something as simple as recovery done!!!??
[20:24] <e-v-o> Sorry feeling a bit frustrated.
[20:26] <Left_Turn> hey is my login directory the one after home?
[20:26] <TJ-> e-v-o: Something has gone wrong with the system preventing access to the roofs, so it can't do the usual recovery. That is what has caused the failure of a normal boot, too
[20:27] <TJ-> Left_Turn: Each user gets a directory using their username, under /home/ so for example I my log-in directory ($HOME or ~ in shorthand) is /home/tj/
[20:27] <genii> Left_Turn: It usually goes like: /home/your-username/your-files
[20:27] <Left_Turn> oh
[20:27] <e-v-o> TJ- following those instructions, I don't see how to save the changes… when I press enter it creates a new line return and I see no on screen instructions either on how to save the edits!
[20:28] <Left_Turn> is there a special command to see hidden files.. i created a file in /home/me but i can't find it
[20:28] <Left_Turn> i dont know if its hidden
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> Left_Turn, ctrl-h
[20:28] <Left_Turn> oh thanks
[20:29] <TJ-> Left_Turn: Any file or directory name beginning with a dot "." is hidden by many tools. At the command-line you can see such files using "ls -a" (the -a switch says 'show all')
[20:29] <Left_Turn> ah i see.. thanks TJ-
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> Left_Turn, In the nautilus menu as well.
[20:30] <curtism> Any time I try to do anything at all with CUPS, I get "request entity too large"
[20:30] <curtism> Any ideas how I can fix this?
[20:30] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Thanks for that photo of the executables. Lets see if you can get anything useful about sda. First find out how many partitions it has by doing "cat /proc/partitions"  then, for each partition, do "/sbin/blkid /dev/sdaX" where you replace X with the partition number
[20:30] <Left_Turn> heh im abit too noob to know what those are wilee-nilee :(
[20:30] <e-v-o> TJ- anyway, pressed F10 to boot with the changes and it hangs after two lines at "Loading initial ramdisk..."
[20:30] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: That should give you some info about each partition to help us find out if there is good metadata to be found
[20:32] <ubuntuissue> TJ- that shows the uuid of the drive
[20:32] <TJ-> e-v-o: It strikes me those instructions aren't very precise. When it says type "passwd username" it doesn't seem to say you should replace "username" with the username you usually log-in with! Without that key info, that command is mostly useless!
[20:32] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Does it show more than one partition?
[20:33] <ubuntuissue> Hold on whioe i upload pictures
[20:33] <e-v-o> TJ- I didn't even manage to get that far yet
[20:33] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I'm just trying to figure out what we're dealing with
[20:33] <TJ-> e-v-o: OK! well, if/when you do... you're now warned :)
[20:34] <ubuntuissue> TJ- http://imgur.com/TWi2NNj
[20:34] <ubuntuissue> That is cat /proc partitikns
[20:35] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: How many hard drives does that system have!?
[20:35] <TJ-> ubuntuissue:  I count 8
[20:35] <ubuntuissue> More then that, some are in raid.
[20:36] <ubuntuissue> sda1 is /root while the rest either show up or dont. For instance the storage drives that are 1.5 tb are not showing up with blkid
[20:37] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: OK, well I think its too serious to mess about with from initrd. You need to get yourself a bootable USB stick with a very recent kernel as well, it ought to be a 64-bit install too, to match what is on that system. Then, try/get the USB drive to boot correctly, then you can do recovery on the damaged stuff. It could be a big job.
[20:38] <ubuntuissue> Is there an iso and stuff already including with that that i could throw in a usb stick?
[20:38] <MrBIOS> hi folks, can anyone here tell me what the *proper* way of setting up (u)limits in Ubuntu is? It seems that ubuntu does not have support for /etc/security/limits.d
[20:38] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: To give you some idea, I'm pretty experienced at recovery, and I've spent the last 7 days working on recovering data from a hardware-failed 500GB drive that had 25GB+ of sectors hardware-damaged.
[20:39] <ubuntuissue> Thisbshitbhappened at the most inoppurtune time. I have classes that start tomorrow.
[20:39] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I'd suggest a live desktop image since you have a familiar working environment in that, and can use Terminal to run shell commands. You'll be needing network access and that'll make setting up the network automatic too
[20:40] <ubuntuissue> Wjat is the lates 13.04 kernel on the live c
[20:40] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Yup, same here. I've had recovery / clone systems hanging off the back of UPSs all week
[20:40] <TJ-> ubuntuissue:  I think its' v3.8
[20:41] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: That ought to be OK... you can find out, if it works you're good, if not, then you can add one of the newer mainline kernel images from the Ubuntu kernel team
[20:41] <demifuror> hi guys. does anyone have a desktop kindle reader app? if so what do you use?
[20:41] <curtism> Any ideas on how to fix CUPS telling me "request entity too large" every time I try to do anything such as adding a printer?
[20:42] <ubuntuissue> Can you pm me a link on how to do that TJ-
[20:43] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[20:43] <waterlite> Does it matter that I'm on a old version of Xchat?
[20:43] <waterlite> do I really been an update
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> waterlite, ask in #xchat
[20:44] <TJ-> curtism: That usually indicates you user isn't a member of the "lp" group, or that the owner/permissions on /var/spool/cups/ are wrong
[20:44] <curtism> TJ-: I've made my user a member of lp, what should the permissions on /var/spool/cups be?
[20:45] <TJ-> curtism: There's an old forums post talking about it; see if it helps, but remember it is 3-4 years old. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1027342
[20:45] <curtism> TJ-: Yeah I've already gone through the forum posts and none of the threads seem to end in a solution
[20:46] <curtism> TJ-: Additionally, those old threads mention the `cupsys` user which doesn't seem to exist anymore
[20:46] <TJ-> curtism: Have you read/explored the system logs; especially the CUPS logs?
[20:46] <TJ-> curtism: /var/log/cups/
[20:46] <ubuntuissue> I really hope tjat /home is not corrupr as there is stiff that i havent backed up from there recently.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, A good resource in general rather than polling the channel. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=kindle
[20:47] <ubuntuissue> Going to take 2p minutes for ubuntubiso tobdownload anyways
[20:47] <curtism> TJ-: The cups logs are empty, and I can't enable debug logging afaict because `cupsctl LogLevel=Debug` also errors with "request entity too large"
[20:49] <TJ-> curtism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986455/
[20:49] <curtism> TJ-: And on /var/spool/cups itself?
[20:49] <TJ-> curtism: This is a better one; I used "ls -al" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986461/
[20:50] <Left_Turn> is there a linux/unix manual.. like official documentation.. i really don't like man
[20:50] <TJ-> curtism: I also notice, on 13.04, my user is a member of "lpadmin"
[20:50] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: it's not quite as simple as that
[20:50] <Left_Turn> oh
[20:50] <curtism> TJ-: My user is in lpadmin as well
[20:50] <TJ-> Left_Turn: There's man pages, info pages, HTML pages, and everything inbetween!
[20:51] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: everything is made up of individual little projects, so it's not like there's one big Book Of Linux
[20:51] <TJ-> curtism: Anything in either auth.log or syslog?
[20:51] <Left_Turn> oh i see:(
[20:51] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: and if you buy one, next week it will be pretty much completely obsolete
[20:51] <Left_Turn> oh no:(
[20:51] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Was /home on a mirrored drive?
[20:52] <Left_Turn> this OS is like the jungle or wilderness... so easy to get lost:(
[20:52] <curtism> TJ-: My permissions on /var/spool/cups match
[20:52] <SparkyFlary> how much money did Linus make off of Linux besides awards?
[20:52] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: it's just unfamiliar
[20:52] <TJ-> Left_Turn: One of the 'arts' of a Linux user especially, is being able to deduce from nothing that the docs you are reading are 10 years out of date :)
[20:52] <Left_Turn> heh yeah:)
[20:52] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: you think Linux is hard, try to use Windows some time
[20:52] <Left_Turn> heh windows?
[20:52] <TJ-> curtism: Something must be logging a clue somewhere!
[20:53] <Left_Turn> TJ-:)
[20:53] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: I tried it for the first time a couple of months ago, still no idea how it's supposed to work
[20:53] <AlexDonovan> Hello people of the server
[20:53] <SparkyFlary> is there a list of perfectly compatible hardware that goes with linux?
[20:53] <SparkyFlary> or ubuntu
[20:53] <TJ-> curtism: Could you strace or gdb the process that throws the error? Might give you some clues
[20:53] <e-v-o> TJ- found where the boot falls over at: "Stopping anac(h)cronistic cron"
[20:53] <Left_Turn> oh i see... i come from windows... its all gui.. very easy honestly:)
[20:53] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: no, it's not easy
[20:53] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: how do you tell all the little squares apart?
[20:53] <Left_Turn> heh
[20:53] <TJ-> e-v-o: OK... be wary though, the actual fault might be nothing to do with the last message that was displayed.
[20:54] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: how do you know where in all those little squares the thing you want to change is?
[20:54] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: I still haven't figured out how to get wifi working on it
[20:54] <Left_Turn> i see your point:)
[20:54] <TJ-> Left_Turn: and how to you pipe the output of one application to the input of another so you can do useful things with the tools?
[20:54] <Left_Turn> is that even possible in windows?
[20:55] <TJ-> Left_Turn: Precisely my point :D
[20:55] <Left_Turn> heh i see
[20:55] <Cyrax> bekks: I saw on youtube that u can rotate ur desktop as a cube. Do i need to install something?
[20:56] <e-v-o> TJ- would you be bale to help if I post a picture of the boot messages?
[20:56] <TJ-> Left_Turn: Right now I'm in the GUI of xchat helping ubuntuissue. At the same time I have a terminal running "tail -n +1 -f ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Freenode-#ubuntu.log | grep ubuntissue" which lets me see just the conversation between me and him
[20:56] <gordonjcp> TJ-: nice trick
[20:56] <TJ-> e-v-o: I may, as may others, but without hands-on it is sometimes very difficult to give accurate hints. Sometimes it is down to intuition and experience.
[20:57] <Left_Turn> wow thats an awful command to remember TJ-
[20:57] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: it's not a single command
[20:57] <Left_Turn> oh
[20:57] <TJ-> Left_Turn: So is finding the Control Panel Applet for disk management!
[20:57] <Left_Turn> :)
[20:57] <ubuntuissue> Okay live cd is burned... Lets see what happens when i boot wirh it
[20:58] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Good luck! I'm hoping :)
[20:58] <curtism> TJ-: This is what happens in syslog when I try clicking "Add Printer" from the cups http admin page http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986485/
[20:58] <TJ-> curtism: haha! It looks as if permissions on the /var/log/cups/ directory are stopping it working :D
[20:58] <Mace268> curtism, have you logged out and back in since adding the proper groups?
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: one of the other neat things about doing stuff from a terminal is you can run with a thing called "screen" which lets you disconnect and reconnect from somewhere else
[20:59] <TJ-> curtism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986488/
[20:59] <Left_Turn> oh really?
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: so in my case I'm running my IRC client on a server somewhere in England
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: I can pick up my phone, open a terminal, and connect to it and see exactly the same thing on the screen as on my desktop
[20:59] <Cyrax> gordonjcp: What do I need to b able to rotate my desktop on ubuntu? something I have to install?
[20:59] <SparkyFlary> http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/linus-torvalds-net-worth/
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: no idea
[20:59] <TJ-> Left_Turn: And with screen, you can use Multiuser mode and have several operators sharing the same console from different remote locations. Great for teaching people how to use the terminal
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Cyrax: some sort of hinge that your monitor mounts on?
[21:00] <Left_Turn> wow that's awesome gordonjcp
[21:00] <Cyrax> I think its called Compiz
[21:00]  * TJ- giggles @ gordonjcp 
[21:00] <Left_Turn> i see... im going to look into screen:)
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: okay, you can't see this because you're not that near me, but I picked up my cup of tea and I'm now sitting on one of the laptops in the back of my van
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: notice how I didn't disconnect and reconnect? ;-)
[21:00] <ubuntuissue> Should i try any arguments on thevboot cd ir just let it do its thibg.
[21:00] <TJ-> Cyrax: It depends upon the video drivers - some support rotation, other's don't or need to be done manually
[21:00] <Left_Turn> yep:)
[21:01] <Left_Turn> awesome:)
[21:01] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Let it do everything default to start with. Only change things if it goes wrong
[21:01] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: it makes it ridiculously easy to procrastinate at work ;-)
[21:01] <Cyrax> So how do i find out what video drivers i need for that roation?
[21:01] <curtism> TJ-: I changed the permissions on the logs but I still get the exact same thing in syslog
[21:02] <TJ-> haha that reminds me of the Procrastinators in Prattchet's Thief of Time
[21:02] <Left_Turn> i see:) im happy i chose to install ubuntu now:)
[21:02] <TJ-> curtism: Really? that sounds as if CUPS is not running as root, doesn't it?
[21:02] <ubuntuissue> Tj- how ling are you going to be on for tonight at least?
[21:02] <TJ-> curtism: "ps -efly | grep cups"
[21:03] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Well it's 22:02 now... I was aiming for an early night as it was 06:00 this morning when I finished yesterday, if that makes sense!
[21:03] <ubuntuissue> Just want to get a rough idea of how lomg you can help me with this.
[21:03] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: maybe an hour or so
[21:03] <ubuntuissue> Yeah
[21:03] <curtism> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986506/
[21:03] <ubuntuissue> It booted to gui which is a good sign... Hold on
[21:03] <TJ-> curtism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986507/
[21:04] <Riptide> hello
[21:04] <Riptide> can somebody help me?
[21:04] <curtism> TJ-: Looks right then :\
[21:04] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Yay!
[21:04] <bekks> Riptide: Wedont know - state your problem please.
[21:04] <TJ-> curtism: OK, so, can you stop the CUPS service and the start it (not just restart) ?
[21:04] <ubuntuissue> And usb and what not are workjng with the live cd. So it seems like ilif i can just upgrade the kernel and verify the fs i shoukd be good
[21:04] <Riptide> ok
[21:05] <Cyrax> Can u help find out how i can make the desktop rotate? it seesm rotation dont work for me
[21:05] <ubuntuissue> A couple of the drives arenot appearing thougho
[21:05] <curtism> TJ-: Just did that, hasn't changed anything
[21:05] <Riptide> Whenever I try to run a VirtualMachine on VirtuakBox, I get this error: Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Windows 8.The virtual machine 'Windows 8' has terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code 1
[21:05] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: It sounds that way, but always have in back of mind there may be some corruption to data on those disks. Step very carefully until you're sure, try not to over-write anything - I always prefer to clone disks for safety
[21:05] <TJ-> curtism: I'd try manually starting the cups daemon under strace or gdb then
[21:06] <Riptide> I also get this error: Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Windows 8.The virtual machine 'Windows 8' has terminated unexpectedly during startup with exit code 1
[21:06] <Riptide> wait
[21:06] <Riptide> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[21:06] <bekks> Riptide: Then install the kernel driver.
[21:06] <bekks> Riptide: The error message even tells you how to do it.
[21:06] <Riptide> I have tried, but it still does not work
[21:07] <ubuntuissue> I dont have a spare drive to clone tto... Atleast not 1.5 tb jn spaceM
[21:07] <bekks> Riptide: Which Ubuntu version do you have, which vbox version do you have, and did you install the official vbox packages from the official vbox site?
[21:07] <TJ-> curtism: I'm thinking (as root) "cupsd -f" and "cupsd -t" to begin with
[21:08] <Riptide> I have Ubuntu 13.04, and I think the latest VirtualBox, and No I haven't. Do you have to?
[21:08] <ubuntuissue> Tj, what be the best way to go about doing this? Npt quite sure.
[21:08] <e-v-o> This is where my boot screen hangs, can anyone help? http://bit.ly/125D8Ba
[21:08] <Cyrax> Anyone that can direct me how i can make the desktop rotation on ubuntu to work?
[21:08] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Initially you only need to clone the operating system, which I hope doesn't have much more than 20GB file-system
[21:08] <bekks> Riptide: Which version of vbox do you have?
[21:09] <ubuntuissue> The Os is on a raid 1. Which didnt seem to help.
[21:09] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: how big is the OS install - I presume it is what was reported as sda1 - ?
[21:09] <curtism> TJ-: open("/var/spool/cups/00000001", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0640) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[21:09] <ubuntuissue> It was reported as sdaq
[21:09] <ubuntuissue> Sda1
[21:09] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: It won't help if the cpu/RAM/south-bridge go bad and send bad data to the disks.
[21:09] <Riptide> bekks: 4.2.16 and I don't know if I have the packages installed
[21:10] <ubuntuissue> The drives themselves are 80gb, actual filesize is less than 3p
[21:10] <TJ-> curtism: You're getting closer!
[21:10] <bekks> Riptide: Then how did you install vbox?
[21:10] <curtism> TJ-: It then goes on to try to open /var/log/cups/error_log and also gets EACCESS
[21:10] <TJ-> curtism: Are the permissions on /  /var/ and /var/log/ allowing access to /var/log/cups/  ?
[21:10] <drmeister> Does anyone use clang on Ubuntu?  "apt-get" get's a pretty old version (3.0) is there a way to get something more recent with "apt-get"?
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> !find clang
[21:11] <Riptide> bekks: I went on virtualbox.org and downloaded the .deb file from there. The .deb file brings me to the Ubuntu Software Center so I can install VirtuakBox. I recently updated VIrtualBox to 4.2.16 thinking it will solve the error.
[21:11] <curtism> TJ-: Uh, /var is a symlink, but otherwise all the permissions are root:root 755
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> drmeister, 3.2 in raring
[21:12] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Yesterday I cloned a 30GB file-system over the network to a second machine. On the destination I created an LVM LV of the correct size and ran "nc -l 1234 | sudo dd bs=4M of=/dev/mapper/VG-LV" and then on the source I did "dd bs=4m if=/dev/mapper/VG-LV | nc 10.254.251.50 1234" ... that allowed me to clone easily to a different machine. You could easily write the clone image to a file rather than an LV
[21:13] <TJ-> curtism: Something is weird. The file system hasn't become read-only has it?
[21:13] <ubuntuissue> Uh....
[21:13] <drmeister> How do you list what packages are available to apt-get?  I'm new to apt-get
[21:13] <curtism> TJ-: /var is a symlink to /home/var (I wanted to get /var off my / partition)
[21:13] <drmeister> wilee-nilee: What is raring?
[21:13] <Riptide> ?
[21:13] <ubuntuissue> TJ- you just lost me. :(
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 | drmeister
[21:13] <ubuntuissue> I understand lvm
[21:13] <curtism> TJ-: /home and /home/var are both root:root 755
[21:14] <TJ-> curtism: I think the symlink might the be issue.
[21:14] <Riptide> ....
[21:15] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I was afraid I might, but that's the level at which you sometimes have to think when you're doing data recovery. Always cover your ass, never work on a single un-cloned copy of the data.
[21:15] <Riptide> lol?
[21:16] <ubuntuissue> Problem 1 not vwry familoar with dd or nc
[21:16] <curtism> TJ-: Do you know why it would be an issue?
[21:16] <Riptide> bekks: you still there?
[21:17] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I'm thinking as the LiveCD works the first thing you should try is fsck-ing and then mounting the suspect OS root partition into a chroot and then entering it and seeing what things look like.
[21:17] <TJ-> curtism: I don't but I'm clutching at straws based on the facts to hand :)
[21:18] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: If you can fix the OS (forget about the /home/ for now) that allows you to boot the system normally, and then work natively on making sure /home/  and everthing else gets back to normal.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, "Always cover your ass, never work on a single un-cloned copy of the data." an obvious problem with that user from the get go.
[21:18] <ubuntuissue> Would fsck'ing fix the superblock ssue?
[21:18] <curtism> TJ-: Isn't there a way I can mount /home/var to /var?
[21:18] <bekks> Riptide: I'm still here.
[21:18] <ubuntuissue> Wilee nilee i am still here
[21:19] <Riptide> ok
[21:19] <curtism> TJ-: Maybe that would cause less problems
[21:19] <ubuntuissue> :/
[21:19] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: He's got RAID10, that is often sufficient. The main issue now is recovering or replacing the OS installation though.
[21:19] <bekks> Riptide: Whats the entire output of "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" ? Please pastebin it.
[21:19] <ubuntuissue> Raid 1 not raid 10 fyi
[21:19] <TJ-> curtism: "mount --rbind /home/var /var"
[21:19] <curtism> TJ-: Thanks
[21:20] <ubuntuissue> On sime of the other drives that are nissing thoufh i font have raid
[21:20] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: about the same thing - 2 disks containing identical images. the "0" is just striping.
[21:20] <bcessa> hi there, super newbie question, I'm trying to test a saucy package in 12.04, can someone point to some info on how to do it? thnx
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, Ah, I put them in ignore a long time ago, the secondary login with another nick was enough for me.
[21:20] <Riptide> bekks:  * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                    [ OK ]  * Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules                       [ OK ]  * Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS                  Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.4.0 cannot be found.Please install the linux-headers-3.4.0 package,or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located * Failed
[21:20] <bekks> Riptide: USe a pastebin please.
[21:20] <FourFone>  Hello I think I made a dumb
[21:20] <Riptide> bekks: srry
[21:21] <bekks> Riptide: And please provide the output of "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin too.
[21:21] <syntac> hi, i have an ~/.Xresources file but when i start xmonad, that file isn't getting 'sourced'. i have to open up a terminal, xrdb ~/.Xresources, then everyting will work. any ideas why?
[21:21] <curtism> TJ-: Wow that actually worked
[21:21] <TJ-> curtism: Yay! something fixed at last :D
[21:21] <FourFone> What dues the process "compiz" do?
[21:21] <TJ-> curtism: So it was the symlink
[21:21] <ubuntuissue> Alright qell attenpting fsck -AN /dev/sda1 just reports back with fsck-from-util-linux2.20.q
[21:21] <curtism> TJ-: Now how do I do a --rbind mount in fstab?
[21:21] <iceroot_> !compiz | FourFone
[21:21] <Riptide> bekks: " * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                    [ OK ]  * Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules                       [ OK ]  * Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS                  Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.4.0 cannot be found.Please install the linux-headers-3.4.0 package,or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located * Faile
[21:21] <e-v-o> Can anyone help with this boot hanging please? http://bit.ly/125D8Ba
[21:21] <bekks> Riptide: USe a pastebin. I wont tell you it again.
[21:22] <TJ-> curtism: same as any other mount options.
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> FourFone, its a windows manager lets state the actual issue eh.
[21:22] <bekks> !pastebin | Riptide
[21:22] <FourFone> Because I stopped the process
[21:22] <Riptide> ok
[21:22] <FourFone> you computer stopped responding
[21:22] <FourFone> :(
[21:23] <TJ-> curtism: On one of mine it's "/home/all/Library /srv/Library none defaults,rbind,noauto 0 0"
[21:23] <Riptide> Sorry, Imma noob. So i just do !pastebin  (Output)?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> FourFone, logut or reboot you need iot for unity basically
[21:23] <drmeister> I'm new to Ubuntu (long time ago I used Slackware/Fedora/Redhat for a decade)  - I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 yesterday and now I realize I need 13.04  - do I need to start from scratch or can I upgrade?
[21:23] <bekks> Riptide: No, you have to copy the output to the pastebin site mentioned by ubottu.
[21:23] <Riptide> k
[21:24] <ubuntuissue> Tj- http://imgur.com/XNGQRO0
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> drmeister, You can upgrade through 12.10, I would fresh install myself.
[21:24] <TJ-> drmeister: It's be faster to reinstall the latest version, rather than upgrade through 12.10 and then 13.04
[21:24] <FourFone> I have lots of stuff in ram is there no way to fix out from this session?
[21:25] <Riptide> ok. I went to paste.ubuntu.com and pasted the code in
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> FourFone, What the heck is in your ram?
[21:25] <Riptide> now do i just give you the link?
[21:25] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Use "fsck -n /dev/sda1" that'll do the checks but not write any fixes
[21:25] <bekks> Riptide: Yes please.
[21:26] <FourFone> Lots of stuff which would be asking to have to make and find again
[21:26] <Riptide> wait
[21:26] <Jordan_U> FourFone: Get to a terminal via ctrl+alt+F1, log in as your user and run "DISPLAY=:0.0 unity --replace", then press ctrl+al+F7 (or possibly F8/9) to get back to X. And in the future don't go around killing processes you don't understand.
[21:27] <FourFone> Possible but a waste is rather avoid
[21:27] <FourFone> Thanks
[21:27] <Riptide> bekks, can you give me the code that started with Isb again? Trying to copy it, but its impossible with people talking
[21:27] <Jordan_U> FourFone: You're welcome.
[21:27] <bekks> Riptide: "lsb_release -a" - the first letter is a small L
[21:27] <curtism> TJ-: Looks like everything's working now, thanks for all the help
[21:28] <TJ-> curtism: Glad its fixed, that was a challenging one!
[21:28] <Riptide> k
[21:28] <Riptide> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986588/
[21:29] <bekks> Riptide: You have to install the kernel-headers: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:30] <Nexen> read! lol
[21:30] <FourFone> Wooten Jordan_U you are a wizard :"D
[21:31] <TJ-> Everyone's a wizzard here... when it works!
[21:32] <ubuntuissue> tj - sorry for all the links. But harf to do on phone
[21:32] <ubuntuissue> http://imgur.com/NweJfop
[21:33] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Don't apologise, it's great to see what you're seeing. I might see hints you'd not think to pass on
[21:33] <Riptide> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986607/
[21:33] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Ouch! that's one messed up file-system!
[21:33] <Sirisian|Work> Anyone here ever use upstart in ubuntu? http://pastebin.com/hGrZ3udS I'm writing a very simple one that keeps an application alive that's interactive. It's for a kiosk. Doesn't open the program. It says it's running when I run start interactiveplayer but just fails to open the program. Does exec need a flag for interactive apps to open them?
[21:34] <ubuntuissue> Yeah. The others that are nit showinf up are just showing illehal inode number while checkint ext3/4 journal for (d4ive nam3)
[21:34] <bekks> Riptide: Please pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-cache policy linux-image" please.
[21:35] <Riptide> bekks: this is going to be long.......
[21:35] <bekks> Riptide: Why?
[21:35] <bekks> Riptide: update just pulls the list of new packages.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> TJ-: ubuntuissue: The filesystem may be fine, you shouldn't run fsck on an active ext filesystem.
[21:36] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: You could try letting fsck fix that, but my sense is, there will be data corruption causing all sorts of unexpected failures. I would recommend re-installing the OS fresh into that partition, and then recreating the configuration it had previously. You might do an fsk recovery just so you can access the configuration files under /etc/ and maybe anything you had elsewhere including maybe the list of installed packages in /var/cache/apt/ and /var/cache/
[21:36] <TJ-> dpkg/ - I do that myself to be able to quickly rebuild a system
[21:36] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Jordan_U It looks as if the live CD managed to auto-mount it
[21:37] <mrbkap> Hello. While doing my first software update on 13.04 I got Processing triggers for gconf2 ... GConf-WAQRNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
[21:37] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: As Jordan_U said, you need to "umount /dev/sda1" before proceeding to do a full fsck.
[21:37] <Riptide> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986620/
[21:37] <ubuntuissue> A ubuntu server reinstall might take longer rhen the 6 hours i have.... Which would suck if i cant grt it done tonifht. O dont have time to dk it tomorrow.
[21:37] <mrbkap> And now it appears to be stuck... Does anybody have any ideas to unstick things?
[21:38] <ubuntuissue> How can i clonw it to another drive and compress it?
[21:38] <bekks> Riptide: You should update your kernel.
[21:38] <Riptide> bekks: how?
[21:38] <bekks> Riptide: sudo apt-get install linux-image linux-headers
[21:38] <SrPx> Wait, I can actually install ubuntu on my galaxy note?
[21:38] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: Well, you can't run it as it is. If /home/ and everything else is outside of sda1 I'd say archive /etc/ and the package-list as best you can, and then blow it away with a reinstall.
[21:39] <Riptide> errrrrr
[21:39] <SrPx> also the ubuntu edge winn not reach its goal by the way? :(
[21:39] <ubuntuissue> Home is outdide, excwpt it is on the same situation. Inode issues
[21:40] <Riptide> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986638/   Line 32 is just a note
[21:40] <Riptide> Just saying
[21:40] <e-v-o> I used to love Ubuntu but with updates breaking my system everytime I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble
[21:41] <ubuntuissue> Error: fsck.ext2 illegal inode number while checkjng ext3 journal for home
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> SrPx, YOu want the #ubuntu-touch channel
[21:41] <commodore256> Hell, I have an odd issue. My computer said my hard drive is full, but it's not. There's no way I used 150 Gigabytes in 12 hours
[21:41] <commodore256> Hello*
[21:41] <Riptide> lol
[21:41] <bekks> Riptide: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.8.0-27 linux-headers-3.8.0-27-generic
[21:42] <histo> commodore256: df -h
[21:42] <commodore256> bug in the kernel?
[21:42] <gordonjcp> commodore256: bug in the user
[21:43] <commodore256> sda1       139G  132G  339M 100%
[21:43] <SrPx> wilee-nilee: thanks
[21:43] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: That's not good. Make sure neither are mounted, sometimes being mounted will cause a test-run of fsck to report spurious errors.
[21:43] <commodore256> There's no way I installed that much
[21:43] <histo> commodore256: what partition is that / ?
[21:43] <Riptide> bekks: it is installing
[21:43] <commodore256> I un-installed kdenlive and Lalf-Life 1 to make space
[21:43] <ubuntuissue> I checkrd mount and df - h
[21:43] <commodore256> SDA
[21:43] <bekks> Riptide: After finishing, you have to reboot.
[21:43] <ubuntuissue> Neither are mounted
[21:44] <commodore256> all one partition
[21:44] <Riptide> bekks: ok
[21:44] <TJ-> commodore256: "sudo du -d 2 / | sort -n " will list 2 levels of directories and tell you how much each is using, from least to most
[21:44] <gordonjcp> commodore256: du -h --max-depth=1 /
[21:45] <MonkeyDu1t> commodore256  or paste this line in a terminal window         find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[21:45] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: It's not looking good unfortunately. Seems as if corruption was written to random locations of the drives
[21:45] <Riptide> bekks: after i reboot, then what?
[21:45] <commodore256> http://pastie.org/8237305
[21:45] <bekks> Riptide: Then run "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" again, and pastebin the entire putput again.
[21:46] <Riptide> bekks: will you still be on in 30 minutes?
[21:46] <TJ-> commodore256: You missed the root "/" path on those commands you only listed $HOME
[21:46] <ubuntuissue> I have a drive that i am willing to risk being corrupted but if it states: superbl9ck has invalid journal, clear: should i go ahead and try it
[21:46] <bekks> Riptide: You dont need 30 minutes for a reboot :)
[21:46] <Riptide> bekks: i have to go somewhere real quick
[21:47] <bekks> Riptide: no problem, I'll be around
[21:47] <commodore256> I looked at it in the disc usage analyzer
[21:47] <Riptide> ok
[21:47] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: what file-system has the invalid journal? /home/ ?
[21:47] <Riptide> bye
[21:47] <commodore256> It said home had the most used data
[21:47] <TJ-> commodore256: Yes, so you have some VERY large files in $HOME then
[21:47] <commodore256>  So, what magical command do you want me to paste?
[21:47] <MonkeyDu1t> commodore256  try this line in a terminal window         find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null       and put it in a pastebin
[21:48] <e-v-o> does anyone know where I can get paid Ubuntu support?
[21:48] <TJ-> e-v-o: Canonical, and others
[21:48] <bekks> e-v-o: Directly from Canonical.
[21:48] <ubuntuissue>  3different drivws. Homr is one of them
[21:48] <ubuntuissue> Te other two are storage drives
[21:48] <e-v-o> isn;t that a yearly subscription though?
[21:49] <ubuntuissue> Then thr 4th one i am willing to risk to test is a smaller storsge for non important files
[21:49] <commodore256> Here it is http://pastie.org/8237328
[21:50] <commodore256> Yes, I named my computer after an elder scrolls god
[21:50] <cifvts> aptitude -f install want to install lot of pkg I don't want to install and I have no idea why thay are getting install
[21:50] <cifvts> how can I get rid of them?
[21:50] <histo> commodore256: the issue is your .xsession-errors.old file is filing your disk
[21:50] <hdon> hi all :) using 12.04 here. getting "Install these packages without verification?" when trying to install packages gimp-normalmap and libgtkglext1
[21:50] <hdon> apt-key update doesn't fix. what should i do?
[21:50] <commodore256> histo? what?
[21:50] <commodore256> How?
[21:50] <MonkeyDu1t> commodore256  delete that xsessions-error file
[21:51] <histo> commodore256: rm /home/user/.xsession-errors.old
[21:51] <commodore256> ok
[21:51] <commodore256> but why is it so big?
[21:51] <histo> commodore256: that will free up 129G make sure you don't have a new .xsession-errors
[21:51] <jhonnyboii> webcam in firefox with ubuntu?
[21:51] <commodore256> Why does that text file take up so much space?
[21:51] <e-v-o> canonicals support seems to be directed at businesses.
[21:52] <jhonnyboii> can someone help me with this?
[21:52] <histo> commodore256: it's full of errors would be my guess. You'd have to view the file and see
[21:52] <commodore256> ok, thanks :)
[21:52] <jhonnyboii> i am willing to paypal you 15 USD if you can solve this
[21:52] <histo> commodore256: something like tail /home/user/.xsession-errors.old
[21:52] <histo> jhonnyboii: What application are you trying to use the webcam with in firefox?
[21:53] <jhonnyboii> i am tryin to use it with flash
[21:53] <histo> jhonnyboii: which site?
[21:53] <histo> jhonnyboii: and do you have flashplugin installed?
[21:53] <jhonnyboii> http://www.deiligst.no/chat.html
[21:53] <ixio2> is there something I can set a user's shell too that will allow scp but not SSH login ?
[21:54] <jhonnyboii> http://www.123flashchat.com/
[21:55] <histo> ixio2: /bin/false should work have you tried?
[21:55] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: If you can fsck sda1 enough to get the files from /etc/ etc. I'd do that, then reinstall fresh as I said earlier. Get that booting correctly, then work on your other disks. There's no harm in wiping sda1 and very little to be gained in cloning it since you don't have anything vital like /home/ in it. But, make sure that is the case - don't blow it away unless you're sure there's nothing there you need desperately.
[21:55] <ixio2> histo: that locks out SCP
[21:55] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: At this point I can't make decisions for you; it's your call. Being pressed for time getting a fresh install up and running is the best course, in my opinion
[21:57] <Sirisian|Work> Odd question. Does upstart work with interactive applications?
[21:57] <histo> ixio2: give me a sec trying to figure it out
[21:57] <jhonnyboii> ixio2: /bin/false
[21:57] <jhonnyboii> do i enter this in terminal?
[21:57] <ixio2> wut?
[21:57] <histo> jhonnyboii: that was not meant for you
[21:57] <Sirisian|Work> I can't find any examples of someone keeping an interactive application alive using upstart.
[21:57] <jhonnyboii> oh sorry
[21:57] <ixio2> jhonnyboii: /bin/false will break SCP
[21:58] <jhonnyboii> open it in terminal?
[21:58] <histo> ixio2: http://www.snailbook.com/faq/restricted-scp.auto.html
[21:58] <jhonnyboii> just that code?
[21:58] <ixio2> ty histo
[21:58] <TJ-> ixio2: Yes; you need to add entries to  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for the user. See "man sshd" and its Authorized Keys section
[21:58] <ixio2> wtf why did I leave the channel
[21:59] <TJ-> ixio2: Yes; you need to add entries to  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for the user. See "man sshd" and its Authorized Keys section
[22:01] <jhonnyboii> histo: is that the only entry i need?
[22:01] <histo> jhonnyboii: what entry where?
[22:01] <jhonnyboii> i cant seem to get anything else respond than password
[22:02] <jhonnyboii> sudo /bin/false
[22:02] <jhonnyboii> will break scp is what u said
[22:02] <ubuntuissue> Tj- what is the best way to clone all the drives jb case? What would be the exact command to clone the drive knto anotjwr drive and then comptess it, verifyjng each step. Sjnce the one drive u am testing with right now.... It is literally going through a list of numbers .(i assume inode pointers) but i àm not sure what it is doing wih them
[22:02] <histo> johntash: NO that command is not for you. I was telling ixio2
[22:02] <jhonnyboii> oh, any chance you can help me get my web cam to work with firefox?
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know how to change the image on the xscreensaver lock screen
[22:03] <jhonnyboii> did you see the page where i showed you the chat
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> where you input your password
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> from the default computer and red wavy hair
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> to something like a biohazard sign
[22:03] <ubuntuissue> It looks like doing the fsck completwlremoved all files, so i dont have much of a choice on what to do
[22:03] <ubuntuissue> i would ratjer back it up and clone the drives at thus point
[22:05] <ubuntuissue> Everything was stuck into lost and found.. And even then the file sizes dont appear to marcj up which leads me to believe that theybare corrupt anyways
[22:05] <histo> jhonnyboii: Those sites don't even load for me
[22:05] <bprompt> Psil0Cybin:    try running "xscreensaver-demo"
[22:05] <ixio2> -rw-rw-r-- 1 cwood    cwood     3 Aug 14 22:04 view.html  <--- howcome this user an create this file in SCP but cant delete it?
[22:05] <jhonnyboii> www.deiligst.no/chat
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> what does that do bprompt
[22:06] <bprompt> Psil0Cybin:    a gui config screen for it
[22:06] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: I'd not want to compress a clone; I'd do it bit for bit. But if you do, then you can pipe the output of 'dd' through gzip. If the drives are connected to the same host then it'd be fast (at least 40MB/second). On the same host I'd do "sudo dd bs=200M if=/dev/$BAD_PARTITION | gzip -c | dd bs=200M of=/path/to/compressed/file.gz"
[22:06] <histo> ixio2: how are you going to delete a file with scp?
[22:06] <jhonnyboii> 123flashchat v9.8
[22:06] <ixio2> histo: right click delete
[22:06] <jhonnyboii> histo>123flashchat v9.8
[22:07] <TJ-> ixio2: "scp" means "Secure Copy" not "Secure ReMove"
[22:07] <histo> jhonnyboii: I'm well aware their silly flash app doesn't event load on my browser.
[22:07] <jhonnyboii> do you know the code to install flash plugin on ubuntu?
[22:08] <ixio2> TJ-: why would right click delete be an option then :s
[22:08] <histo> ixio2: if the user doesn't have a shell they can't run the rm command
[22:08] <ixio2> they are still set to bash
[22:08] <TJ-> ixio2: Anything with a right-click by defintion is *not* SCP. It might be using scp and ssh underneath though.
[22:08] <histo> ixio2: because it's probably sending ssh user@supersecretserver rm /some/pr0n/file
[22:09] <histo> ixio2: is the user trying to delete the file cwood ?
[22:09] <ixio2> view.html
[22:10] <ixio2> when you ls -l what does the attribute "s" mean ?
[22:10] <histo> ixio2: where? that's not in your output you pasted
[22:10] <tmmunq> suid
[22:10] <GunArm> ixio2: "print the allocated size of each file, in blocks"
[22:11] <ubuntuissue> So if files are in lost+found is that a good aign? The drive is reporting some file ßyste
[22:11] <mattinahat> i'm trying to set up my network on a virtual machine with VMware, but when i run lspci -vvnn | grep Network there are no results. anyone have any idea?
[22:11] <GunArm> ixio2: i figured it out by typing "man ls"
[22:11] <mattinahat> I can't find my network controller
[22:11] <ixio2> GunArm: that didnt answer my question
[22:12] <ixio2> what you descripted was an argument to the syntax
[22:12] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: All chains of blocks that fsck cannot link back to directory entries are put in lost_found ... their names have been lost, but the contents might still be recognisable
[22:12] <Ben64> ixio2: what are you actually asking
[22:12] <histo> ixio2: list = ls
[22:13] <mattinahat> I can find USB controllers but lspci doesn't show a network controller. Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:13] <ubuntuissue> Movingbtonsystem
[22:13] <GunArm> ixio2: really?  it prints the size of the file... in blocks...  i tried to rephrase it, but can't
[22:13] <GunArm> as in, how many blocks does it take to store this file
[22:13] <ixio2> -rwxrws--- 1 www-data web-m    27 Aug 14 22:00 robots.txt  <-- what I mean is the attribute there as "s" what does it mean ?
[22:14] <ubuntuissues> Alright
[22:14] <histo> mattinahat: lsusb
[22:14] <GunArm> ohh
[22:14] <ubuntuissues> TJ- new nick, I can't deal with using my phone. Its getting very slow and very hot.
[22:14] <ubuntuissues> Anyways...
[22:14] <histo> mattinahat: sorry ignore that missread your question
[22:14] <TJ-> ixio2: GunArm see "man 1 chmod" and search for "SETUID AND SETGID BITS"
[22:14] <histo> mattinahat: lspci | grep Ethernet
[22:14] <GunArm> sorry I dont know that.  i've never seen anything but rwx and d in that line
[22:15] <TJ-> ubuntuissue: OK
[22:15] <histo> ixio2: that is not typical output
[22:15] <ubuntuissues> After performing the fsck, all files on the drive are no longer there, and then I have over 3/4ths of the files in the lost+found folder
[22:15] <mattinahat> histo: Ok, that listed something. Why didn't it come up with Network?
[22:15] <ubuntuissues> The names are still intact in the lost+found folders, after I naviagate deep enough.
[22:15] <ubuntuissues> navigate*
[22:15] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: That tells us that the root directory or close was badly damaged. Did /etc/ survive?
[22:16] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: You might need to do "find /lost+found -type d -name etc"
[22:16] <histo> mattinahat: because Network is for wireless devices
[22:16] <ubuntuissues> I didn't do it on /dev/sda or /dev/sdd (root & home) till i would know what would happen to the drives first. I tested it on a secondary storage drive that didn't host any important files first.
[22:16] <ubuntuissues> I wanted to see how bad it was.
[22:16] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: Ahhh, OK
[22:17] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: It's not looking good I'm afraid.
[22:17] <mattinahat> histo: yeah, I'm trying to find the chipset of my wireless card. So Ethernet won't give me what I'm looking for? I think.
[22:17] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: be careful how you think of the device names. sda is the bare drive, sda1 is the first partition, which contains the root file-system. Same with sdd and sdd1. sdd1 is a partition containing a file-system.
[22:18] <ubuntuissues> I am honestly still very confused as to how you clone a drive with dd, but at this point, dd'ing root or home would be great so I can have a backup.
[22:18] <mattinahat> histo: I started to try and follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[22:18] <ubuntuissues> I know. Always do the partitions, not the physical drives.
[22:18] <histo> mattinahat: Is ubuntu installed as a VM guest?
[22:18] <mattinahat> histo: I don't know. I just opened the VM
[22:19] <histo> mattinahat: opened what vm?  What OS are you running?
[22:19] <holstein> ubuntuissues: ideally, you would have backups *before* having hard drive issues.. since *all* hard drives fail.. i might use something like photorec or a data recovery tool to see if i could get the data off before who knows what
[22:19] <ubuntuissues> There is no real good way around to prevent this typd of data loss besides backups, is there.
[22:19] <TJ-> mattinahat: I usually do "lspci -nn | egrep -i '(ether|net|wire|wifi|802)'
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know how to change the xscreensaver logo picture when you lock your computer?
[22:19] <ubuntuissues> Photorec doesn't appear to be a part of the sources I have on the live cd.
[22:20] <mattinahat> TJ-: That still gave me just the ethernet controller
[22:20] <mattinahat> histo: i'm running windows 7
[22:20] <ubuntuissues> Guess I will have to download it.
[22:20] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: dont cross post.. and if you are not allowed, you are not allowed.. you can for the project, or use a different screensaver/locker that fits your needs
[22:20] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: Nope. I have redundant backups here and a long ethernet line to a 1TB mirror array buried in the garden! Just so if fire or a plane hits the vital stuff is safe. The backups via rsync run every hour.
[22:20] <mattinahat> and in vmware I opened up my ubuntu distro
[22:20] <TJ-> mattinahat: Is it a USB device maybe?
[22:20] <histo> mattinahat: Why do you expect to see a wifi card in a vmware machine?
[22:20] <mattinahat> histo: uh...
[22:21] <mattinahat> I dunno ha
[22:21] <mattinahat> Shouldn't it mirror my actual hardware?
[22:21] <histo> mattinahat: No
[22:21] <TJ-> mattinahat: No. It's a *virtual* machine, not a real one!
[22:21] <histo> mattinahat: it uses virtual hardware
[22:21] <mattinahat> right, but the virtual hardware is an interface to my actual hardware
[22:22] <holstein> mattinahat: not really.. that depends
[22:22] <mattinahat> so i should be able to interact with the wireless card somehow?
[22:22] <holstein> mattinahat: if you have wifi, that will foward "network".. if you have it configured that way.. not wireless
[22:22] <holstein> forward*
[22:22] <holstein> and, forwarding is not the proper term either.. its virtualized
[22:23] <mattinahat> ok. well running iwconfig gives me "lo no wireless extensions" and "eth0 no wireless extensions" but I'm on wifi
[22:23] <holstein> mattinahat: if you are asking "why dont i see my wireless card?", its because the guest is seeing a "fake", virualized network device..
[22:23] <jhonnyboii> hi
[22:23] <TJ-> mattinahat: Mostly, virtual machines create fake representations of a limited number of hardware devices and thats what the virtual machine sees. Some hypervisors allow PCI pass-through so that the VM can use the real hardware (but then the host can't use it)
[22:23] <mattinahat> holstein: ok.
[22:23] <jhonnyboii> can someone help me with the command to install adobe flash?
[22:23] <jhonnyboii> ubuntu
[22:24] <holstein> !flash | jhonnyboii
[22:24] <jhonnyboii> i cant seem to find out how to do this
[22:24] <ubuntuissues> Ugh.. what is the shortcut key to open a new server window in xchat?
[22:24] <ixio2> so the problem Im having now (I removed the "s" attribute) is that a user, although a member of the group called web-solo cannot view/browse the directory called solo: drwxrwx--- 3 www-data web-solo 4096 Aug 13 21:02 solo
[22:24] <mattinahat> so then how do I see my wireless card?
[22:24] <holstein> mattinahat: you dont do what you are doing virtualized..
[22:24] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: Ctrl+S
[22:24] <reisio> ubuntuissues: /help newserver
[22:24] <histo> mattinahat: it doesn't work that way
[22:25] <bprompt> jhonnyboii:     sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:25] <mattinahat> ok.
[22:25] <histo> mattinahat: You'd have to boot ubuntu to use your physical hardware
[22:25] <mattinahat> ok, well it makes sense.
[22:25] <ubuntuissues> Hm... does testdisk have a ubuntu package?
[22:25] <mattinahat> histo, holstein, TJ-: thanks for your help!
[22:25] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: Yes "testdisk"
[22:25] <holstein> mattinahat: you can configure it where you get a real local IP from the router you are on.. and be on the actual network..
[22:26] <ubuntuissues> Hm, it isn't appearing when I run "apt-get install testdisk"
[22:26] <reisio> ubuntuissues: what version of ubuntu?
[22:26] <ubuntuissues> 13.04 Live CD
[22:26] <histo> mattinahat: why do you want to use your wifi in a vm of ubuntu?
[22:26] <ubuntuissues> I did apt-get update before attempting
[22:26] <reisio> sudo apt-get install testdisk?
[22:26] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: You need to enable the Universe repository
[22:26] <histo> !testdisk | ubuntuissues
[22:26] <histo> !info testdisk | ubuntuissues
[22:28] <mattinahat> histo: I was trying to see if I could get my card into monitor mode
[22:28] <jhonnyboii> where is the application folder in file system?
[22:28] <holstein> mattinahat: no
[22:28] <holstein> jhonnyboii: what application?
[22:28] <jhonnyboii> where i place the folders that i extract from archive manager?
[22:28] <jhonnyboii> where do i place these?
[22:28] <holstein> jhonnyboii: you shouldnt have to do that..
[22:28] <holstein> jhonnyboii: what are you trying to do?
[22:29] <jhonnyboii> tryin to install flash from that package
[22:29] <jhonnyboii> i downloaded it from adobe
[22:29] <histo> mattinahat: boot the ubuntu DVD and see
[22:29] <mattinahat> histo: yeah, that's what I'm gonna have to do. Thanks.
[22:29] <holstein> jhonnyboii: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:29] <histo> mattinahat: you can run it live rather than install it
[22:29] <jhonnyboii> it said that it was not locked
[22:29] <jhonnyboii> and it is not in use already
[22:30] <holstein> jhonnyboii: then, report the error, friend.. the reason you likely cant get a lock is because you have several package managers open
[22:30] <mattinahat> histo: right, but I have to redownload anyways. I only downloaded the vmware file and not the iso.
[22:30] <holstein> jhonnyboii: close the software center, or synaptic.. or whatever else you have open.. open a terminal and copy paste this.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:31] <histo> jhonnyboii: why don't you install flash from the repos?
[22:31] <histo> !flash | jhonnyboii
[22:31] <holstein> jhonnyboii: if you want to download one from adobe and use it, adobe provides you support
[22:32] <user-pol> Hello
[22:32] <Riptide> Hello
[22:33] <Riptide> are you here bekks?
[22:34] <bekks> Riptide: Yeah
[22:35] <elpelado> Hi everyone!
[22:35] <bprompt> jhonnyboii:    sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin   <--
[22:36] <Brewski> Hi #ubuntu, I've got an odd question I'm hoping somebody has a solution for: Dual monitor system, second monitor is a touchscreen that is not used most of the time. I want to display images on the touchscreen when X isn't using it. What's the best route to go about that?
[22:36] <Brewski> I've thought about framebuffer, a full-screen web browser, and VNC
[22:36] <ubuntuissues> !info photorec
[22:36] <Riptide> bekks: what was the code i needed to check after i reboot the computer?
[22:37] <Brewski> I think the VNC/web browser route would require concurrent X sessions
[22:37] <bekks> Riptide: "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" and pastebin it again.
[22:37] <unrar> arent there any other archive manager other than the default archive manager in ubuntu?
[22:38] <Riptide> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986809/\
[22:38] <Riptide> oops
[22:38] <Riptide> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986809/
[22:39] <holstein> unrar: yes
[22:39] <bekks> Riptide: You did not install the kernel requested or you didnt boot into it.
[22:39] <holstein> ubuntuissues: photorec is part of testdisk..
[22:39] <unrar> holstein: please can u recommend me any...
[22:39] <Riptide> bekks boot into it?
[22:39] <ubuntuissues> Yeah, I just realized that.
[22:40] <bekks> Riptide: Yeah, reboot into the newly installed kernel.
[22:40] <holstein> unrar: what are you looking for? i recommend the default one..
[22:40] <Riptide> bekks: do i just need to restart the laptop?
[22:40] <ubuntuissues> I am just not sure what to do at this point. I know it is my decision. But, I would love to be able to clone a drive into an image or something other then another drive, as I don't really have another drive to spare.
[22:40] <unrar> holstein: you know like windows has winrar... i want something like that...
[22:40] <bekks> Riptide: You said you already did.
[22:40] <Riptide> bekks: yes
[22:41] <holstein> ubuntuissues: clonezilla is an easy way to clone a drive.. or just copy the data with a filemanager, if thats what you want
[22:41] <Riptide> bekks: do i have to do it again?
[22:41] <bekks> Riptide: So pastebin: dpkg -l | egrep "linux-image|linux-headers"
[22:41] <unrar> holstein: there's this rar file that doesnt open... i want to try it in some other application but i cannot find any other...
[22:41] <ubuntuissues> holstein, the drive is possibly corrupt. So it would have to image an entire disk.
[22:41] <ubuntuissues> Will try using clonezilla.
[22:41] <holstein> ubuntuissues: the corruption is why i suggested testdisk..
[22:42] <Riptide> do i need to add the |?
[22:42] <wmv_problems> Some wmv videos are playing with weird artifacts in VLC player and in Totem. The video is all scrambled up, but it played just fine in Windows. What could I do to fix this?
[22:42] <bekks> Riptide: Yes, I provided the entire command.
[22:42] <wmv_problems> I've also tried it with SMplyer and it has the same problem. :\
[22:42] <holstein> unrar: you have tried the command line?
[22:42] <zeta-> I've a problem with Synaptic -- is there an on-line db where I can check dependencies?
[22:43] <unrar> holstein: yes i did...
[22:43] <holstein> unrar: and? try sharing the error you are getting
[22:43] <bprompt> zeta-:     are  you checking for broken packages?
[22:44] <zeta-> mysql wants to install a pkg, but synaptic can't find it
[22:44] <Riptide> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986816/
[22:44] <unrar> unrar e jstllglglgthflprdx.br.rar   UNRAR 4.00 beta 3 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2010 Alexander Roshal  jstllglglgthflprdx.br.rar is not RAR archive No files to extract
[22:45] <bekks> Riptide: You have to reboot and select the newly installed kernel for booting into it.
[22:45] <holstein> unrar: looks like a bad file could be the issue.. i would try getting or making a .rar, and see that you are able to use it.. then, ask the content creator to do the .rar again
[22:45] <zeta-> marks as Broken! when I select it
[22:45] <Riptide> bekks: how do i select it?
[22:45] <waterlite> hi all
[22:46] <Riptide> hi
[22:46] <bekks> Riptide: You have to select it in the grub menu.
[22:46] <bprompt> zeta-:   that means some version issues with the package or it isn't in the repositories in sources.list,   check with "sudo apt-get check"   see what it says
[22:46] <bekks> !grub2 | Riptide
[22:46] <unrar> holstein: so there isnt a way to extract the broken file, like in winrar... ???
[22:46] <Riptide> bekks: ....
[22:46] <bekks> Riptide: What do you mean by "...."?
[22:47] <waterlite> hello
[22:47] <zeta-> bprompt: Thanks, will try ...
[22:47] <Riptide> bekks: do i type !grub2 in terminal?
[22:47] <holstein> unrar: you are not understanding what im suggesting.. you need to determine that the .rar is "ok".. where did you get it?
[22:47] <bekks> Riptide: No. Please read the text just been given by ubottu.
[22:47] <unrar> holstein: with winrar it worked just fine... i just dnt want to reboot with the windows... isnt there any other unrar software in linux other than the default one???
[22:47] <Riptide> bebekks: k
[22:47] <holstein> unrar: yes. there are plenty.. so, you have it already extracted?
[22:48] <unrar> no i just viewed it in winrar...
[22:48] <bprompt> unrar:    likely you don't have unrar installed, thus the error shown
[22:48] <unrar> bprompt: its installed...
[22:48] <holstein> sudo apt-get install unrar unrar-free
[22:49] <holstein> unrar: ^
[22:49] <unrar> holstein: dude i knw that... i need sth else... some other software... the default one dint open it... so i want an alternative
[22:49] <holstein> unrar: ok dude.. try installing unrar.. and report back
[22:50] <holstein> !volunteers | unrar
[22:50] <Riptide> uhhhhhhh
[22:50] <unrar> holstein: its installed man...
[22:50] <Riptide> bekks, can i pm you something? :(
[22:50] <holstein> unrar: unrar-free *is* the alternative i suggest
[22:51] <bprompt> unrar:    try something like xarchiver
[22:51] <unrar> holstein: okie... tnx then... open source softwares suck sometimes...
[22:51] <holstein> unrar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#Rar
[22:51] <mads-> unrar,  did you try the keep broken files option unrar has?
[22:51] <zeta-> bprompt: Done. -- no errs,  but problem still exists
[22:52] <mads-> Guess he left. Think the keep broken files option could have helped though
[22:53] <zeta-> bprompt: pkg: upstart-job ?
[22:53] <Riptide> nvm
[22:53] <Riptide> bekks: does every computer with ubuntu have grub?
[22:53] <bprompt> zeta-:    what's the error that mysql is throwing out?
[22:54] <Andy> ANYONE THERE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SELLING HERBAL INCENSE. Talk to me, I am with GOLD POINT DISTRIBUTION. I can offer you the lowest price ever for our 3 grams packs. We have popolar brand like DIABLO, SONIC ZERO, CAUTION AND BIZZARO. PM me and well talk.
[22:54] <Andy> ANYONE THERE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SELLING HERBAL INCENSE. Talk to me, I am with GOLD POINT DISTRIBUTION. I can offer you the lowest price ever for our 3 grams packs. We have popolar brand like DIABLO, SONIC ZERO, CAUTION AND BIZZARO. PM me and well talk.
[22:54] <TJ-> We only snort Free herbs :)
[22:55] <zeta-> bprompt: marks as Broken! when I select it
[22:55] <bprompt> zeta-:     ... ok, try to run it from the terminal, it should give a more verbose message
[22:56] <zeta-> bprompt: run it? you mean start the server?
[22:56] <bprompt> so I was going to get 6grams of bizarro and sonic incense, but Andy left, ohh man
[22:57] <bprompt> zeta-:     yes
[22:57] <zeta-> OK
[22:58] <zeta-> bprompt: start: Rejected send message
[22:58] <Riptide> ........
[23:00] <Riptide> I'm just going to give up
[23:00] <bprompt> zeta-:     ... maybe reinstalling it... that's not much of a message
[23:00] <Riptide> Just Nevermind
[23:01] <zeta-> bprompt: Yes, but ... it won't reinstall,  it is marked as Broken! when I select it
[23:02] <zeta-> it wants the pkg: upstart-job ?
[23:02] <Andy> ANYONE THERE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SELLING HERBAL INCENSE. Talk to me, I am with GOLD POINT DISTRIBUTION. I can offer you the lowest price ever for our 3 grams packs. We have popolar brand like DIABLO, SONIC ZERO, CAUTION AND BIZZARO. PM me and well talk.
[23:02] <zeta-> but can't find it
[23:03] <zeta-> *we'll*
[23:03] <Andy> ANYONE THERE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SELLING HERBAL INCENSE. Talk to me, I am with GOLD POINT DISTRIBUTION. I can offer you the lowest price ever for our 3 grams packs. We have popolar brand like DIABLO, SONIC ZERO, CAUTION AND BIZZARO. PM me and well talk.
[23:03] <iceroot_> Andy: stop that
[23:04] <Andy> ANYONE THERE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SELLING HERBAL INCENSE. Talk to me, I am with GOLD POINT DISTRIBUTION. I can offer you the lowest price ever for our 3 grams packs. We have popolar brand like DIABLO, SONIC ZERO, CAUTION AND BIZZARO. Our products will come from BOCA RATON FL and will be shipped via FEDEX. This is open to wholesaler and retailers. PM me and well talk.
[23:04] <Marlenee> what is the option thet make ubuntu predict the command i wanna do
[23:04] <iceroot_> !ops | Andy
[23:04] <Marlenee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986847/
[23:04] <iceroot_> Marlenee: command-not-found?
[23:04] <Marlenee> yes i know
[23:05] <bprompt> zeta-:    try with "sudo dpkg -r   APPNAME"
[23:05] <iceroot_> Marlenee: yes, that is coming from "command-not-found"
[23:05] <Marlenee> i talk about the option that do that predict
[23:05] <Marlenee> this option not in ubuntu 12.04
[23:05] <iceroot_> Marlenee: as i said, that is done with the program "command-not-found"
[23:05] <Marlenee> i see it only in ubuntu 13
[23:06] <Marlenee> iceroot_ what you mean
[23:06] <iceroot_> !info command-not-found precise
[23:06] <neantpastel> is there a game called asheron's call 2 for ubuntu
[23:06] <iceroot_> Marlenee: as i said the function to show you the programs because you misstyped something is coming from a package called "command-not-found"
[23:07] <bprompt> Marlenee:     shell autocompletion?
[23:07] <iceroot_> Marlenee: its available for all ubuntu versions
[23:07] <Marlenee> iceroot_ not all version or may be disabled
[23:08] <Marlenee> how i install it ?? apt-get what??
[23:08] <iceroot_> Marlenee: make sure the program is installed
[23:08] <iceroot_> Marlenee: maybe it should also be enabled in your .bashrc
[23:08] <iceroot_> Marlenee: sudo apt-get install command-not-found
[23:09] <Marlenee> what is .bashrc ??
[23:09] <phong_> hi guys
[23:09] <iceroot_> Marlenee: i would strongly suggest that you dont run a root-shell when you dont know for example what .bashrc is
[23:10] <iceroot_> Marlenee: bashrc is the config file for your shell
[23:10] <zeta-> bprompt: remove mysql? It's already 'rc' (removed but not purged)
[23:10] <zeta-> bprompt:  does pkg: upstart-job exist?
[23:11] <bprompt> zeta-:    dunno that one
[23:11] <zeta-> can I look it up on-line?
[23:11] <Marlenee> iceroot_ : i install apt-get install command-not-found and the misstyped corection not work
[23:12] <jrib> Marlenee: did you restart your shell?
[23:12] <bprompt> zeta-:    http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/upstart-job
[23:12] <iceroot_> Marlenee: my debian is telling me something like this, maybe you need that also on ubuntu
[23:12] <iceroot_> Marlenee: You need to run 'update-command-not-found' as root to update the cache.
[23:13] <iceroot_> Marlenee: so "sudo You need to run 'update-command-not-found' as root to update the cache.
[23:13] <iceroot_> so "sudo update-command-not-found"
[23:13] <iceroot_> stupid copy and paste....
[23:13] <Marlenee> iceroot_ : sudo: update-command-not-found: command not found
[23:14] <Marlenee> E: Unable to locate package update-command-not-found
[23:14] <zeta-> Lucid? I'm raring
[23:14] <iceroot_> Marlenee: output of "dpkg -l command-not-found"
[23:15] <zeta-> seems it's provided by upstart
[23:15] <bprompt> zeta-:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/upstart-job
[23:15] <zeta-> try reinstalling upstart?
[23:15] <bprompt> zeta-:   anyhow, it's in the repositories
[23:16] <Marlenee> iceroot_ : its show me ascii table about the package info
[23:16] <iceroot_> Marlenee: does the line starts with "ii"?
[23:16] <iceroot_> Marlenee: just paste the output to pastebin
[23:17] <Marlenee> ok
[23:18] <Marlenee> here is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986899/
[23:19] <iceroot_> Marlenee: you dont have this file? /usr/sbin/update-command-not-found
[23:19] <iceroot_> i cant imagine that there is a difference between debian and ubuntu in this case
[23:20] <iceroot_> Marlenee: and please dont use a root-shell, use your normal user instead of root
[23:20] <Marlenee> what can i do with that create file /usr/sbin/update-command-not-found ???
[23:21] <zeta-> bprompt: upstart replaces and conflicts with upstart-job -- but upstart-job says it is provided by upstart :s
[23:21] <iceroot_> Marlenee: specially when you are executing commands we gave you, dont run them in a root-shell it would be very easy to give you a command to kill your system because you are root
[23:22] <iceroot_> Marlenee: does that file exist on your system?
[23:22] <iceroot_> Marlenee: because i dont have ubuntu, could you please paste the output of "dpkg -L command-not-found"
[23:22] <TJ-> iceroot_: See http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986906/
[23:23] <iceroot_> TJ-: thank you
[23:23] <TJ-> iceroot_: That's output of dpkg-query -L command-not-found command-not-found-data on 13.04
[23:23] <iceroot_> as it seems the debian package is complety different to the ubuntu package
[23:23] <iceroot_> i have /usr/sbin/update-command-not-found
[23:24] <TJ-> iceroot_: And this is how it integrates: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986910/
[23:24] <iceroot_> TJ-: thank you
[23:24] <iceroot_> TJ-: nice support
[23:24] <Marlenee> iceroot_ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986911/
[23:24] <iceroot_> Marlenee: open ~/.bashrc and put in this line ". /etc/bash_command_not_found"
[23:25] <TJ-> iceroot_: for completeness: "apt-file search 'command-not-found' | grep -v language"     http://paste.ubuntu.com/5986915/
[23:26] <iceroot_> TJ-: still asking myself why ubuntu patched that package, the debian way is complety different
[23:26] <iceroot_> TJ-: debian is using a method from apt-file and loading all the stuff from the repos
[23:27] <Marlenee> iceroot_ : shall i put this in any line
[23:27] <TJ-> iceroot_: no idea why, changelog is here: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/command-not-found/command-not-found_0.3ubuntu7/changelog
[23:29] <iceroot_> Marlenee: just in one line
[23:29] <TJ-> iceroot_: There are no @debian.org email addresses in the sign-off; maybe it is a totally Ubuntu package that shares the same name and purpose
[23:29] <iceroot_> TJ-: i dont think so
[23:29] <jrib> Marlenee: you never answered if you had restarted your shell
[23:29] <iceroot_> TJ-: hm command-not-found (0.0.1) edgy; urgency=low
[23:29] <iceroot_> TJ-: maybe it is a ubuntu package and debian was syncing from ubuntu and not ubuntu from debian
[23:30] <Marlenee> jrib : no idont  restart it
[23:30] <TJ-> iceroot_: And I see a lot of mention of Python. That often seems to be an Ubuntu dev thing!
[23:30] <jrib> Marlenee: you would have to for command-not-found to have a chance of working
[23:30] <iceroot_> TJ-: ah, this is fromo debian     * Stop installing /etc/bash_command_not_found, since the standard one
[23:30] <iceroot_>     included in bash works now.
[23:31] <iceroot_> TJ-: and yes, the debian changelog is shwoing that this package is from ubuntu
[23:32] <TJ-> iceroot_: Aha! mystery solved :D
[23:32] <iceroot_> TJ-: yes :)
[23:32] <iceroot_> TJ-: thx
[23:34] <Marlenee> iceroot_ : i do all step as you say and still have same problem
[23:34] <ubuntuissues> Hello, I am back... so quick question...
[23:34] <ubuntuissues> What should I do if testdisk reports there are 7 different partitions schemes, or reports that a 250 GB hard drive is actually 333GB
[23:35] <iceroot_> ubuntuissues: repair the partiton layout
[23:38] <TJ-> ubuntuissues: Arggh, that sounds worse than I had hoped. I'm concerned it thinks the drive is larger since it should get those figures from interrogating the drive itself, not relying on partition data.
[23:55] <wmv_problems> Some wmv videos are playing with artifacts in VLC player, Totem and SMplayer, but it played just fine in Windows. What could I do to fix this? I'm using Intel integrated graphics.
[23:56] <wmv_problems> It only happens with some wmv files and I don't know what's causing it.