[00:01] <texadactyl> Question: So fall-back to X while testing Intel GMA 3650 (Cedar View) is considered successful?
[00:01] <Unit193> I'd call mine a failure, for sure.
[00:04] <texadactyl> I'd call mine "partial success" in that lightdm successfully fielded the unity-system-compositor failure nad started X for me.  Better than nothing!  (-:
[00:09] <texadactyl> At least with the modesetting X driver I am able to setup my display hardware correctly. 
[00:17] <jono> texadactyl, if you have a card unsupported by Mir and it falls back to X, that is the intended outcome
[00:18] <Unit193> But it isn't a Mir "success", Mir failed there.
[00:21] <texadactyl> Unfortunately, Intel seems to have abandoned Cedar View (E.g. GMA 3650) motherboard support.  It's a pity.  Even Intel utility from 01.org cannot recognize their own hardware.  Fortunately, Xubuntu 13.04 and 13.10 have been able to load the modesetting X driver for me.
[00:22] <texadactyl> I was hoping that Mir would be a new experience of usability.  However, I do like Xubuntu 13.10 in many ways.
[00:22] <texadactyl> No complaints.
[00:33] <texadactyl> jono, I sent a mail to the xubuntu-devel list with feedback related to my card.  Is that sufficient?
[00:34] <texadactyl> "XMir on Xubuntu Install Test with Intel GMA 3650 graphics"
[00:36] <Unit193> Aha, so you had issues both in live and updated install.
[00:37] <texadactyl> Yes
[00:37] <texadactyl> Its the same detection process
[00:38] <texadactyl> I suspect that GMA 3650 is not supported.  I am looking for the supported hardware list now.
[00:38] <Unit193> I don't think you'll find one, but could be wrong.
[00:39] <texadactyl> (-:
[00:39] <texadactyl> No worries
[00:40] <texadactyl> Life could be worse.....I could be using Windoze !!
[00:45] <texadactyl> ttfn, all, don't forget to have some fun today.
[00:52] <jono> texadactyl, so any card that required propreitary drivers should fall back to X gracefully
[08:00] <Noskcaj> I've got thunar on debian mentors which will allow us to sync it rather than merge it
[09:15] <ochosi> hrrm, that indicator-sound bug is somewhat bothering, i hope it gets resolved in time for 13.10... (bug #1208204)
[09:15] <ubottu> bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204
[09:16] <elfy> ochosi: yea
[09:16] <elfy> got mine working but it is only a workround
[09:17] <ochosi> yeah, we really want that to work ootb
[09:17] <elfy> yep
[09:17] <ochosi> otherwise we can scrap indicators alltogether in xubuntu
[09:17] <ochosi> (until the gtk3 panel arrives)
[09:17] <ochosi> (which might be a while)
[09:18] <Noskcaj> ochosi, i've tried to debian merge the indicator. it's possible that has a fix, i'll try and find it
[09:19] <Noskcaj> never mind. that was the one i didn't do
[10:51] <knome> lderan, if you are interested in a semi-low-hanging fruit bugs, see bug 697318
[10:51] <ubottu> bug 697318 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Should grab Ubuntu release from /etc/lsb-release or /cdrom/.disk/info" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697318
[10:52] <lderan> low hanging fruit sounds good :P
[10:53] <lderan> shall take a look at it :)
[10:53] <knome> thanks
[11:13] <lderan> it is now on my server for when i get home, also got the new xubuntu ones as well from your email.
[11:16] <knome> :)
[12:56] <texadactyl> knome/pleia2,slideshow looks nice and all the links work 
[12:57] <knome> texadactyl, thanks
[12:58] <texadactyl> I had to install seahorse (Passwords and keys) myself.  I wonder why it wasn't included as part of the ISO?
[12:58] <texadactyl> Odd, that
[15:03] <knome> pleia2, hai
[15:03] <knome> pleia2, do you have an opinion on the xubuntu wordpress theme license?
[15:03] <knome> pleia2, i, as the author, am fine with anything that works for xubuntu
[15:04] <knome> pleia2, i'm considering if we want to protect the unique look in a way or another though
[16:43] <lkjj> Hello
[16:47] <GridCube> hi
[18:33] <pleia2> knome: apache or gpl2 make my life easiest
[19:28] <ochosi> knome: the software-center screenshot has to be retaken with the elementary-xfce-darker icon theme (-> dark arrows), as that'll be the default in 13.10
[19:29] <ochosi> knome: and if you want the bottom progress-bar to blend in more with the rest of the window (color-wise) let me know, i guess we can also try to theme that separately (although i guess it's not our top-priority atm)
[19:29] <ochosi> knome: other than that it all looks nice!
[19:29] <ochosi> knome: /review :)
[20:24]  * Noskcaj just completed the slightly pointless task of updating xfce4 yes plugin
[21:27] <lderan> Noskcaj, hussah
[21:27] <Noskcaj> :)
[21:27]  * Noskcaj really needs to find something less nerdy to do with his life
[21:44] <lderan> knome, looks like we might be able to load the version number by passing it as a url variable to the slideshow, shall experiment
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[23:01] <lderan> knome, i have it working
[23:01] <ochosi> oh nice, someone backported our 13.04 greybird to 12.04 :) http://cool4y.deviantart.com/art/Greybird-White-Theme-for-Xubuntu-12-04-369184213
[23:40] <bluemirsabre> Unit193:dm_connection_start
[23:40] <bluemirsabre> set_active_session '0'
[23:40] <bluemirsabre> set_active_session
[23:40] <Unit193> It done be workin'
[23:40] <bluemirsabre> woot!
[23:40] <Unit193> Lag?  Mouse movement lag?  Anything note worthy?
[23:41] <Unit193> TTYs work!
[23:41] <bluemirsabre> mouse is great, windows have some very minor tearing while dragging them
[23:43] <ochosi> what graphics chip?
[23:43] <Unit193> Tearing?  That was supposed to be the one good thing about Mir. :P
[23:43] <bluemirsabre> :D
[23:44] <bluemirsabre> Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] 
[23:44] <bluemirsabre>            X.org: 1.14.2 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: nouveau tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root 
[23:44] <ochosi> i see
[23:44] <Unit193> When you're done, can you  `file xubuntu-xmir.iso`  and make sure it is 0.0.9r970 and document on the pad?
[23:44] <Unit193> bluemirsabre: inxi -G
[23:44] <Unit193> :D
[23:45] <bluemirsabre> Unit193: yup, thanks inxi!
[23:47] <bluemirsabre> Unit193: link to the pad?
[23:47] <Unit193> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mir
[23:47] <Unit193> (Typed it, hope it's right. ;P )\
[23:50] <bluemirsabre> yup, its right.
[23:50] <bluemirsabre> have they implemented multi-monitor yet?
[23:51] <Unit193> Nope, they *think* they will on the day we decide, 22nd.
[23:51] <bluemirsabre> gotcha
[23:51] <Unit193> Same with comp bypass.
[23:51] <lderan> knome, here it is when you have a few seconds to check to see if it works for you :) https://code.launchpad.net/~lderan/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/test
[23:52] <bluemirsabre> Unit193: updated the pad
[23:54] <Unit193> bluemirsabre: Thank you very much!  (Was honestly going to wait for a rainy day, not today!)
[23:54] <Unit193> I should maybe update the wiki, then.
[23:54] <bluemirsabre> lots of free time when my wife isn't home yet :D
[23:55] <Unit193> Hah, woo!
[23:56] <bluemirsabre> anything else I should test, or am I done for this version?
[23:58] <Unit193> Just need to poke it enough to make up your mind, tried glxgears?