/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/15/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* smartboyhw likes his name mentioned on the announcement page:P03:45
Noskcajcontrast, I was just going to file a sync bug and have smartboyhw fix it05:50
Noskcajsmartboyhw, did you read the irclog for about 8 hours ago?05:50
smartboyhwNoskcaj, !!!?!?!06:02
smartboyhwWhat the?06:02
Noskcajsmartboyhw, the ktp packages. they need syncing06:02
smartboyhwNoskcaj, syncing?06:02
smartboyhwI thought they are uploaded, that is06:03
Noskcajfrom debian06:03
smartboyhwNoskcaj, ah, that's not *syncing*, that's *merging*06:03
smartboyhwOh no:(06:03
smartboyhwMerges take a LONG time.06:03
Noskcajsmartboyhw, isn't it a sync if there are no changes from the debian version?06:04
NoskcajThe ubuntu delta is irrelevant on most of them06:04
smartboyhwNoskcaj, so, has Debian got the new 0.6.3 ktp version in?06:04
Noskcajsmartboyhw, yep06:05
smartboyhwNoskcaj, well sync it then, if you want06:05
smartboyhwBut please be reminded, I have no sync rights whatsoever06:05
NoskcajI'll file some sync bugs tomorrow if you don't get time to look into it. I have soccar training soon06:05
smartboyhwI'm not yet a Kubuntu dev.06:05
Noskcajsmartboyhw, i know, i was meaning file the bugs06:05
smartboyhwNoskcaj, can't you file the bugs yourself?:P06:06
smartboyhwIt's just as simple as running the syncpackage command from ubuntu-dev-tools...06:06
Noskcajsmartboyhw, i can, it's just there are a lot and you where the one who most recently merged them06:06
smartboyhwSigh06:06
NoskcajI'll do it, it's just i was hoping you could at least help06:07
smartboyhwActually, there's no need for a sync if the packages are the same version anyway06:07
smartboyhwEspecially since you said there are no diff.06:07
smartboyhwNoskcaj, ^06:09
Noskcajsmartboyhw, most have debian changes that help06:10
smartboyhwNoskcaj, that's merging then06:10
Noskcajas in, the changes in debian help06:11
smartboyhwNoskcaj, I know06:11
Noskcajthe debian package is better than the ubuntu package06:11
smartboyhwNoskcaj, OK then06:15
smartboyhwNoskcaj, where are the packages? unstable or experimental?06:16
Noskcajsmartboyhw, unstable. i found them all on merges.ubuntu.com06:16
smartboyhwNoskcaj, BTW how is it better?06:18
Noskcajsmartboyhw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5987873/ is the changelog of one06:20
smartboyhw:O06:20
smartboyhwNoskcaj, confirm: ALL of them are syncs?06:23
Noskcajsmartboyhw, IDK, i've only had time to test two, i'll check them when i get to them. I can't seem to get requestsync to work. 06:24
smartboyhwNoskcaj, me too:P06:24
Noskcajbug 1212556 is the only one i have time to file before i go to soccer06:33
ubottubug 1212556 in Ubuntu "Please sync ktp-text-ui (universe) from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121255606:33
smartboyhwNoskcaj, I just can't simply run the requestsync command, the report editing window doesn't jump up06:47
smartboyhwshadeslayer, ^ can you help a bit?:P06:47
smartboyhwyofel, ^06:47
Noskcajsmartboyhw, exact same problem here08:21
smartboyhwNoskcaj, hmm08:22
smartboyhw:(08:22
yofelsmartboyhw: I've got a minue, what are you running? (commandline)08:23
smartboyhwyofel, requestsync08:23
yofel*minute08:23
yofelwithout parameters? ^^08:23
smartboyhwrequestsync -d unstable ktp-accounts-kcm08:23
smartboyhwIt was Noskcaj's request so that he can put the Debian changes in.08:23
yofelsmartboyhw: http://paste.kde.org/p044a013a ?08:25
yofelit just took ~20s until it showed up08:25
yofelLP seems a bit slow08:25
smartboyhwyofel, yeah08:25
smartboyhwWell it just doesn't show up for me at all08:26
yofelyou could use --email maybe08:26
yofelLP does have an email interface after all08:26
* yofel gone again08:26
smartboyhwNoskcaj, ^08:27
Noskcajsmartboyhw, i'll try that08:30
RiddellQuintasan: something up with your blog? uds-p post on planet.kde08:47
Noskcajsmartboyhw, it works now, just very slowly09:09
smartboyhwNoskcaj, :)09:18
shadeslayerhuh10:09
shadeslayerhttp://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1kcxjl/kde_software_compilation_411_released/cbntvji10:10
smartboyhwshadeslayer, how are you today?10:11
shadeslayersmartboyhw: good good10:11
smartboyhw:)10:11
shadeslayerhow are you?10:12
smartboyhwshadeslayer, great here also10:12
Riddellrshort: any idea when tariq wants to go ahead with kubuntu support?10:43
rshortI'll chase him up for you he's just on the phone at the minute10:46
Riddellrshort: or just get him on here so I can chase him up myself :)10:48
yofelshadeslayer: logs could be interesting, otherwise no idea. I tested any upgrade path I could think of10:49
Riddellbwa ha ha11:05
Riddellooh hi tariq :)11:05
* jussi waves to Riddell11:06
smartboyhwRiddell, :)11:07
Riddellafternoon jussi 11:07
jussiRiddell: I need money!!!!!!! :D11:07
jussiRiddell: (yes it was me who did the de-opping) :D11:08
Riddellyou power crazed op!11:08
jussihehe11:08
smartboyhwjussi, you money-and-power crazed op!11:08
jussiheh11:09
* jussi shoots smartboyhw in the foot :D 11:09
jussiwith a rubber band...11:09
smartboyhwjussi, it doesn't hurt at all11:09
shadeslayeryofel: do you know how to setup encryption in kmail>11:33
yofelsame how you setup signing?11:33
* smartboyhw watches this interesting questioning11:33
yofelonly difference is that kmail will ask you to select the key before sending11:34
Riddellshadeslayer: why do you want to encrypt and sign all your e-mail?11:34
yofelNSA? ^^11:34
* yofel does now sign all his mails by default11:34
Riddelldo you think anyone who receives it verifies them?11:35
shadeslayerRiddell: signing because incase my email gets compromised in the future and someone sends an email to my parents asking for money, they can check the sig ... and what yofel said11:35
yofelnope, but if someone wants to do it they *can* do it now11:35
shadeslayer^^11:35
shadeslayeralso gives you deniability11:39
shadeslayerdidn't recieved a signed email from me? not mine11:39
yofelshadeslayer: btw. I just sent you an encrypted testmail. Haven't tried this for a while myself ^^11:40
shadeslayeryeah :)11:40
shadeslayerwaiting for kmail to update11:40
shadeslayerit's so slowwwww11:40
jussishadeslayer: ++11:41
smartboyhwHeh, this job has quite few requirements that even I can apply (LOL): https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH03/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=66311:42
shadeslayeryofel: done11:42
yofelyay, got it11:43
shadeslayerdecryption works?11:43
yofelyep11:43
shadeslayerawesome11:43
shadeslayeralso, I saw your credentials in Bilbao11:44
shadeslayerso I'm going to sign your key11:44
yofelyou did?11:45
yofeloh right11:45
yofelthanks :)11:45
shadeslayeryep :P11:45
ryanakcaRiddell: I've received an email from someone interested in setting up a recurring monthly donation; do we have anything to do that? Can I forward them do you?12:11
Riddellryanakca: um, I've no idea if paypal can do that but yeah forward it to me12:11
jussiIm pretty sure paypal can be set up to do that12:13
tester56hi!, does anyone know in which channel I could get help with apparmor ?12:21
Riddellnow there's something I don't know anything about12:22
Riddell#ubuntu-security I'd guess12:22
tester56thanks, I 'll try it12:24
smartboyhwRiddell, congrats:)12:25
tester56does not seem quite active12:34
tester56(ubuntu-security)12:34
smartboyhwtester56, maybe because the main members of the Ubuntu Security team hasn't woken up yet?12:35
tester56has anybody here experience with apparmor profiles?12:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: on what?12:39
smartboyhwRiddell, on having something you don't know about (apparmor)12:40
Riddellsmartboyhw: oh I'm sure there's plenty of those12:42
jussiUGH12:44
smartboyhwjussi, ?12:45
jussimy fonts look like WINDOWS FONTS!!!!!!12:45
shadeslayerI wouldn't touch your computer12:46
jussiI rebooted and now I have thes horrible fonts12:46
shadeslayermaybe even burn it12:46
shadeslayerIt's a work hazard :P12:46
smartboyhwjussi, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH12:46
jussimy eyes, my eyes12:46
jussi:/12:46
jussishadeslayer: what did you change?12:46
jussiseriously, anyone know what mightve gone wrong and how to fixor it ?12:48
smartboyhwjussi, what did you update?12:49
jussimrgh, no idea, dont remember? its been ages since I rebooted12:50
smartboyhwjussi, :O12:50
jussismartboyhw: I only really reboot for kernel updates, otherwise, sleep12:51
* smartboyhw thinks that is NOT advisable:P12:51
jussismartboyhw: why? 12:53
smartboyhwjussi, sleep might easily cause your computer to break.12:53
jussismartboyhw: mhm? 12:54
smartboyhwAnd when some packages REALLY require reboots and you don't, it's not going well....12:54
yofelalmost none do that though. I haven't rebooted for 9 days either (still running 3.10.0-6)12:55
smartboyhwyofel, eh, run a newer kernel;)12:55
yofelbut I have to reboot to do that ;P12:56
smartboyhwSigh, why do you guys HATE reboots?12:56
yofelbecause I have to restore the session and type half a dozen passwords on reboot12:57
yofelI'm too lazy for that usually12:58
smartboyhwyofel, your fault:P12:58
smartboyhwHalf a dozen12:58
yofeluser, kwallet, ssh, gpg and sometimes something on web or vbox12:59
jussiyofel: half a dozen only =13:06
jussiI have like 15 on the web, plus 5 or ktp jabber rooms, kmail, and a bunch of other things13:07
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jussiso Riddell, when are you gonna do this? :D13:14
jussihttp://goingsoloadventure.blogspot.ca/2012/12/so-whats-next-for-me-in-2013.html13:14
Riddellthat's pure Baltic!13:16
Riddelljussi: you know Baltic is Scots slang for so cold you can't do anything?  I think that suggests I might not be able to do it13:17
smartboyhw!project-neon13:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about project-neon13:20
smartboyhwMEH13:20
smartboyhw(Or rather, BAH! HUMBUG_13:20
yofel!neon13:20
ubottuProject Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon13:20
smartboyhwyofel, oh13:20
smartboyhwubottu: !project-neon is !neon13:21
yofelnote that kf5 is undocumented13:22
smartboyhwyofel, we should fix the kde-workspace build error in neon before talking about kf5:P13:25
yofeluh, everytime I look at it, it failed with a code error13:26
yofela different one each time13:26
yofelnot our fault13:26
Riddellkinae in the nature of the project13:28
Riddellkindae in the nature of the project13:28
smartboyhwHmm, it's rather quiet these days..13:33
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel when are you going to write the reply to my mail? (I know shadeslayer will reply today)13:33
Riddellsmartboyhw: today :)13:34
smartboyhwOK, so all of you marks a Thursday as a "reply mail day":P13:34
yofelsmartboyhw: sorry, I'm drowning in work a bit and am not in the mood to write up that to-read list right now, I'll try to do it over the weekend13:35
smartboyhwyofel, oh:( No worries, at least Riddell and shadeslayer will reply today:P13:38
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* shadeslayer has been doing paperwork all day14:48
smartboyhwshadeslayer, paperwork?:O14:48
shadeslayersmartboyhw: for a UK visa14:50
smartboyhwshadeslayer, ah14:50
Riddellshadeslayer: a little confusing.. since you want to go to spain14:50
* smartboyhw guesses that shadeslayer won't have time to reply the mail then:(14:50
shadeslayerRiddell: sure, but I also want to visit the UK since I have relatives/friends there14:50
shadeslayerand it'll be cheaper than ever to do that \o/14:51
* smartboyhw does NOT need a visa to UK or to Spain14:51
Riddellshadeslayer: why?14:51
Riddellsmartboyhw: how come?14:51
smartboyhwRiddell, because I have a UK passport:P14:51
shadeslayero_o14:51
Riddellshadeslayer: does a schengen visa not let you into the UK then?14:52
shadeslayerRiddell: no, AFAICT I still need to apply for a UK Visa14:52
shadeslayerRiddell: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/do-you-need-a-visa/14:52
Riddellsmelly old UK14:52
shadeslayerVisit / India / Spain14:52
shadeslayer"If you are coming to the UK for a short stay as a visitor, you must obtain a visa before you travel here."14:53
shadeslayerIf UK was part of schengen territory, I'd be able to travel14:53
Riddellhow's this? http://docs.kubuntu.co.uk15:08
Riddellkubotu: newversion amarok 2.8.015:08
smartboyhwRiddell, it's ready?15:08
* smartboyhw furiously packags15:08
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121272215:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1212722 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Please update amarok to 2.8.0" [Undecided,New]15:09
Riddellsmartboyhw: upstream seems a little unsure but it's at http://download.kde.org/stable/amarok/2.8.0/src/15:09
smartboyhwRiddell, unsure?15:09
* smartboyhw doesn't want to touch it then15:09
Riddellhttp://paste.kde.org/p08dd92fc/15:09
smartboyhwOh, it's ready:P15:10
Riddell16:24 < markey> Riddell: alright, it's released :)15:25
markey;)15:25
Riddellmarkey: smartboyhw is on the case!15:25
markeyexcellent!15:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: got a plan for packaging?15:25
markeyrdieter: Amarok 2.8.0 is tagged and ready for your sweet packaging love :)15:27
rdietermarkey: hot, thanks15:27
smartboyhwRiddell, actually, I think I have no time now, I'll do it tomorrow (or you can assign it to somebody else)15:31
smartboyhwI will take it anyways15:32
Riddellsmartboyhw: tomorrow is good15:32
Riddellwoo an Andrea B just donated £85, our highest yet15:32
smartboyhwRiddell, markey um, is the opengl problem on armhf fixed?15:36
smartboyhwRiddell, NEW reviews? :O15:44
smartboyhware u sure?15:44
Riddella good way to find out the sort of problems people make15:44
smartboyhwRiddell, the question is: HOWTO?15:45
smartboyhwSince I'm not a dev or something..15:45
Riddellcan you see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue ?15:46
smartboyhwRiddell, of course15:46
Riddellthen download from there, same as I do15:46
smartboyhwBut how do I TELL people of the problems?15:46
smartboyhw(if I found it before you guys do)15:46
Riddellsmartboyhw: e-mail?15:46
smartboyhwRiddell, OK, to the uploader?15:47
Riddellif you're sure of it yes15:47
Riddellif unsure check with me or another archive admin15:47
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm, I can't get some of the packages15:48
Riddellsome?15:48
smartboyhwFor instance, code-of-conduct-signing-assitant15:48
smartboyhwThe .orig.tar.gz failed (404)15:48
Riddellsmartboyhw: works for me with wget   wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/138719070/code-of-conduct-signing-assistant_0.3.orig.tar.gz15:49
Riddellpst, try qjoypad , that's my package :)15:49
smartboyhwRiddell, ha!?!?15:49
Riddellto keep the krita devs happy15:49
Riddellbest use for a playstation joypad I've seen15:50
* smartboyhw thought Riddell will add -dev and -dbg packages;)15:51
Riddellto qjoypad?  it's an application not a library so no -dev packages15:51
Riddelland I don't usually bother with -dbg, -dbgsym is there automatically15:52
Riddellalthough that's a bit confusing to users15:52
* Riddell out15:53
* smartboyhw doesn't see any problems with Riddell's package, sorry;P15:54
Riddellsmartboyhw: yay, I'll approve it :)16:07
smartboyhwRiddell, I will read through those soon enough:)16:07
tester56Riddel: My apparmor problem was not solveable because the possibilities kde offers16:43
tester56*of 16:43
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juancarloshello, we got any Libre stand-alone Mobile Browser emulator for x86_64 Linux ?, like Mozilla Fennec was, or like Opera Mobile, not somethig that got tiny window, but actually emulate the device19:33
juancarlos:(19:35
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juancarlostime to time we lose stuff, first qt-multimedia, then the Mobile Browser emulator  :(19:42
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NoskcajRiddell, Is it ok if i merge pbuilder?22:13

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