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jefetihi there, need help please... I installed lubuntu on an old Toshiba Satellite 1400 laptop01:08
jefetiI always get black screen on boot...01:08
Unit193!nomodeset01:08
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:08
Unit193Tried that?01:09
jefetiyes i tried that without results...01:09
jefetiI also tried acpi=off01:09
jefetino dice01:10
Unit193Tried removing   quiet splash   to see what's going on?01:10
jefetiI can't access command line with Alt+F101:10
Unit193Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?01:11
jefetiyeah, that one01:11
jefetino luck01:12
jefetiit blinks the lubuntu logo then shuts the screen off01:12
jefetiI even tried installig lubuntu with an alternate installer...01:15
jefetianyone... any ideas?01:20
Unit193Tried any other distros?01:22
jefetiyes... xubuntu and ubuntu...01:25
jefetisame dilema01:25
jefetiand I'm also using LTS versions01:30
Unit193There is no LTS of Lubuntu, but I'd see if knoppix or puppy work in live, to check for differences.01:32
jefetiIt works fine with puppy01:53
jefetihaven't tried with knoppix though01:53
* SonikkuAmerica never used Knoppix, but did use DSL at one time...02:13
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alucardpotatoso i have ubuntu 13.04 currently installed. to use lubuntu do i have to do the iso thing?  or can i add lubuntu or... LXDE to my splash?  like i do with cinnamon?03:37
Unit193Best way is of course a fresh, clean install, but there are others of course.03:37
Unit193!purelubuntu03:37
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »03:37
alucardpotatohmm okay,  thanks, will " sudo apt-get install lxde"  give me the latest version?03:38
Unit193lubuntu-desktop, actually.03:40
alucardpotatoahhhh i see, and will this "sham lubuntu"  have the benefits i want?   so after i select at the splash, will it really be lubuntu?  and doing all the power saving good stuff, or no...  hence the "pure lubuntu"  extravaganza?03:41
alucardpotatoor.. half + half03:41
Unit193Well, you may still have all the left over gnome daemons running, but the DE itself will be "better" I'd say.03:42
alucardpotatoyeah i'm not doing anything intensive, plus it's a 4GB ram laptop.  all i'm gonna be doing is C in vim...  but i like the idea of lubuntu...  i may install the next LTS... or does lubuntu not have lts?03:43
Unit193It doesn't, but 14.04 may be the first.03:44
SonikkuAmericaUnit193: I'm increasingly hearing it will be the first. What might the holdup be?03:45
Unit193Lack of devs, pretty much.03:46
JohnnyLHi, I was wondering. I have two machines. One with Lubuntu (it's not networked). I also have a flash drive. Where do I download gcc and all of it's dependencies?05:59
Unit193build-essential?05:59
Unit193!offline05:59
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD05:59
JohnnyLUnit193: perfect thanks Unit193!06:01
Unit193Also note apt-offline06:01
Unit193Sure.06:01
JohnnyLbizarre.06:08
JohnnyLusb no longer flashes, and no cp file copy statuses.06:08
JohnnyLwow that fucked up my entire configuration.06:17
JohnnyLnow it's asking for glib at every corner.06:17
holstein!language06:17
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:17
JohnnyLfuck06:17
HElephantHi, could someone help me install Lubuntu on my old Compaq Armada M500?16:55
holsteinHElephant: i had one of those way back.. just download the lubuntu 13.04 iso and try it live, and go from there17:25
HElephantAll right. I'll try it as soon as my Ubuntu 12.04.1 install finishes since that seem to work. I would rather have Lubuntu though.17:29
holsteinHElephant: lubuntu *is* ubuntu17:31
HElephantI know.17:32
holsteinHElephant: you can install lxde into that 12.04 install17:32
HElephantI am going to use i3.17:32
holsteinHElephant: i dont think you do, or you wouldnt say "im installing ubuntu, but id rather have lubuntu"17:32
holsteinHElephant: use what you like.. you can install i3 into 12.0417:32
HElephantI know Lubuntu is Ubuntu based and a lot more lightweight. That's why I'd prefer Lubuntu on my M500.17:33
holsteinHElephant: its not "ubuntu based".. its literally ubuntu... the same sources.. and an official version of ubuntu17:33
HElephantIf it's Ubuntu, how can it be so much more lightweight then?17:34
holsteinHElephant: it uses LXDE instead of unity..17:34
holsteinHElephant: and other customizations based on the same sources17:34
HElephantSo it will be even more lightweight if I use i3?17:34
holsteinHElephant: nothing makes your machine any faster17:35
holsteinHElephant: you can just literally use less stuff, and free up system resources. at a cost17:35
HElephantholstein, Which will be the most lightweight if I use i3 on both distros then? Lubuntu or Ubuntu?17:36
HElephant... since you said Lubuntu has some customizations to it.17:36
holsteinHElephant: lubuntu *is* ubuntu17:36
holsteinHElephant: so, you can literally make the same thing from both bases17:37
holsteinHElephant: assuming you add/remove the same packages the end result will be identical17:37
HElephantAll right, but what are those customizations?17:37
holsteinHElephant: many things.. the biggest of which is the desktop... as i said, lxde instead of unity17:37
holsteinHElephant: the filemanager.. no pulseaudio in lubuntu.. and others17:38
HElephantAh okay!17:38
HElephantholstein, I successfully installed Ubuntu 12.04.118:22
HElephantholstein, is there any package I should NOT upgrade due to compability issues?18:59
avisdoes medibuntu still work ?  last time i tried to use it would not connect to the server ?19:08
Unit193Works for me™  When did you last try it?19:09
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karen_Hi, I want to check a wireless mouse on my computer with Lubuntu. It doesn't seem to work on my Windows Vista computer. Can I do that without to much effort?21:06
ianorlinnot sure of drivers but it plugs into a usb right?21:06
karen_I don't want to use it on Lubuntu just check it.   Ya a usb port.21:06
ianorlinhow do you check it works without running it?21:07
karen_I guess it won't hurt to plug it in and try it, right?21:07
ianorlinnope21:07
karen_k21:08
karen_Nope, I think the mouse is broken. Thanks anyway.21:09
ianorlindoes it need batteries in it?21:09
karen_I put new batteries in it.  It's been dropped a few times.21:09
ianorlinoh that will do it21:10
karen_hahaha yep21:10
blinkdothey i have an problem, i'm trying to make an usb key bootable with lubuntu to install it on my hdd and all i can see is a blinking dot which never end21:54
blinkdoti have the same issue since few months, i given up, but this time i want to solve it :/21:55
phillwblinkdot: there have been reported issues with creating usb sticks. which method did you use and what version of lubuntu are you using?22:07
blinkdot13.04, and i have tried with Universal USB Installer, Lili LinuxLive USB Creator and unetbootin22:08
blinkdotsame thing happen with ubuntu22:09
blinkdoti do not have other usb stick to try with22:11
blinkdotit's more like a blinking dash, not dot22:12
phillwblinkdot: always ensure that you check the ISO before trying to transfer it to  a usb stick. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckISO_CD#Check_the_iso_file22:12
blinkdotmd5 is ok22:13
Unit193blinkdot: Tried nomodeset and all?22:13
blinkdotno, i will try22:14
phillwI've been told that the pendrive linux system gives good results and have also used LiLi myself (it's on version 2.4.0 now).22:15
Unit193LiLi is pretty much the best tool, yeah.22:16
blinkdoti dot not have any menu at all i can't not select nomodeset22:16
blinkdotdo*22:16
Unit193F6, Esc, type  nomodeset22:16
Unit193!nomodset22:16
Unit193!nomodeset22:17
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:17
blinkdotthx22:17
blinkdoti'm on an eeepc22:17
Unit193!eee22:17
ubottuInformation about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC . The Ubuntu EeePC Channel is #ubuntu-eeepc , main EeePC discussion in #eeepc22:17
blinkdotf6 and esc doing nothing, still a blinking dash. i will look at eeepc docs and the PLoP Boot Manager thanks22:20
Unit193Plop, woo!22:22
* ianorlin uses plop everytime he boots this desktop22:23
Unit193ianorlin: Oh?  Rather than grub?  What do you think?22:23
ianorlinboth as I need it to get usb boot on an external hard drive22:23
ianorlinas the internal one broke22:23
ianorlinI use plop to launch grub on the usb external hard drive22:24
ianorlinas no usb boot in bios22:24
blinkdotwow http://makegadgetswork.blogspot.fr/2012/02/how-to-boot-from-usb-when-bios-does-not.html#more there too much steps to make it working22:24
blinkdoti give up, thanks anyways guys22:25
Unit193Hah, nice.  Too bad it's not a bigger external or you could just take it out of the enclosure.22:25
ianorlinIt is out of the enclosure22:25
ianorlinI have disabled the old one but haven't taken it out22:26
blinkdoti hope it get fixed in the next year so i can install ubuntu on my netbook, cya22:26
ianorlinIs there any way to reorder th right click options on lxterminal so the close this tab is not at the bottom?22:32
Unit193I don't personally know, use xfce4-terminal because last I knew you couldn't unbind a key in lxterminal.22:37
ianorlinI keep right clicking and it ends up closing my weechat connection22:37
Unit193Use screen?22:38
ianorlinscreen?22:38
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