[01:08] <jefeti> hi there, need help please... I installed lubuntu on an old Toshiba Satellite 1400 laptop
[01:08] <jefeti> I always get black screen on boot...
[01:08] <Unit193> !nomodeset
[01:09] <Unit193> Tried that?
[01:09] <jefeti> yes i tried that without results...
[01:09] <jefeti> I also tried acpi=off
[01:10] <jefeti> no dice
[01:10] <Unit193> Tried removing   quiet splash   to see what's going on?
[01:10] <jefeti> I can't access command line with Alt+F1
[01:11] <Unit193> Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[01:11] <jefeti> yeah, that one
[01:12] <jefeti> no luck
[01:12] <jefeti> it blinks the lubuntu logo then shuts the screen off
[01:15] <jefeti> I even tried installig lubuntu with an alternate installer...
[01:20] <jefeti> anyone... any ideas?
[01:22] <Unit193> Tried any other distros?
[01:25] <jefeti> yes... xubuntu and ubuntu...
[01:25] <jefeti> same dilema
[01:30] <jefeti> and I'm also using LTS versions
[01:32] <Unit193> There is no LTS of Lubuntu, but I'd see if knoppix or puppy work in live, to check for differences.
[01:53] <jefeti> It works fine with puppy
[01:53] <jefeti> haven't tried with knoppix though
[02:13]  * SonikkuAmerica never used Knoppix, but did use DSL at one time...
[03:37] <alucardpotato> so i have ubuntu 13.04 currently installed. to use lubuntu do i have to do the iso thing?  or can i add lubuntu or... LXDE to my splash?  like i do with cinnamon?
[03:37] <Unit193> Best way is of course a fresh, clean install, but there are others of course.
[03:37] <Unit193> !purelubuntu
[03:38] <alucardpotato> hmm okay,  thanks, will " sudo apt-get install lxde"  give me the latest version?
[03:40] <Unit193> lubuntu-desktop, actually.
[03:41] <alucardpotato> ahhhh i see, and will this "sham lubuntu"  have the benefits i want?   so after i select at the splash, will it really be lubuntu?  and doing all the power saving good stuff, or no...  hence the "pure lubuntu"  extravaganza?
[03:41] <alucardpotato> or.. half + half
[03:42] <Unit193> Well, you may still have all the left over gnome daemons running, but the DE itself will be "better" I'd say.
[03:43] <alucardpotato> yeah i'm not doing anything intensive, plus it's a 4GB ram laptop.  all i'm gonna be doing is C in vim...  but i like the idea of lubuntu...  i may install the next LTS... or does lubuntu not have lts?
[03:44] <Unit193> It doesn't, but 14.04 may be the first.
[03:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Unit193: I'm increasingly hearing it will be the first. What might the holdup be?
[03:46] <Unit193> Lack of devs, pretty much.
[05:59] <JohnnyL> Hi, I was wondering. I have two machines. One with Lubuntu (it's not networked). I also have a flash drive. Where do I download gcc and all of it's dependencies?
[05:59] <Unit193> build-essential?
[05:59] <Unit193> !offline
[06:01] <JohnnyL> Unit193: perfect thanks Unit193!
[06:01] <Unit193> Also note apt-offline
[06:01] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:08] <JohnnyL> bizarre.
[06:08] <JohnnyL> usb no longer flashes, and no cp file copy statuses.
[06:17] <JohnnyL> wow that fucked up my entire configuration.
[06:17] <JohnnyL> now it's asking for glib at every corner.
[06:17] <holstein> !language
[06:17] <JohnnyL> fuck
[16:55] <HElephant> Hi, could someone help me install Lubuntu on my old Compaq Armada M500?
[17:25] <holstein> HElephant: i had one of those way back.. just download the lubuntu 13.04 iso and try it live, and go from there
[17:29] <HElephant> All right. I'll try it as soon as my Ubuntu 12.04.1 install finishes since that seem to work. I would rather have Lubuntu though.
[17:31] <holstein> HElephant: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[17:32] <HElephant> I know.
[17:32] <holstein> HElephant: you can install lxde into that 12.04 install
[17:32] <HElephant> I am going to use i3.
[17:32] <holstein> HElephant: i dont think you do, or you wouldnt say "im installing ubuntu, but id rather have lubuntu"
[17:32] <holstein> HElephant: use what you like.. you can install i3 into 12.04
[17:33] <HElephant> I know Lubuntu is Ubuntu based and a lot more lightweight. That's why I'd prefer Lubuntu on my M500.
[17:33] <holstein> HElephant: its not "ubuntu based".. its literally ubuntu... the same sources.. and an official version of ubuntu
[17:34] <HElephant> If it's Ubuntu, how can it be so much more lightweight then?
[17:34] <holstein> HElephant: it uses LXDE instead of unity..
[17:34] <holstein> HElephant: and other customizations based on the same sources
[17:34] <HElephant> So it will be even more lightweight if I use i3?
[17:35] <holstein> HElephant: nothing makes your machine any faster
[17:35] <holstein> HElephant: you can just literally use less stuff, and free up system resources. at a cost
[17:36] <HElephant> holstein, Which will be the most lightweight if I use i3 on both distros then? Lubuntu or Ubuntu?
[17:36] <HElephant> ... since you said Lubuntu has some customizations to it.
[17:36] <holstein> HElephant: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[17:37] <holstein> HElephant: so, you can literally make the same thing from both bases
[17:37] <holstein> HElephant: assuming you add/remove the same packages the end result will be identical
[17:37] <HElephant> All right, but what are those customizations?
[17:37] <holstein> HElephant: many things.. the biggest of which is the desktop... as i said, lxde instead of unity
[17:38] <holstein> HElephant: the filemanager.. no pulseaudio in lubuntu.. and others
[17:38] <HElephant> Ah okay!
[18:22] <HElephant> holstein, I successfully installed Ubuntu 12.04.1
[18:59] <HElephant> holstein, is there any package I should NOT upgrade due to compability issues?
[19:08] <avis> does medibuntu still work ?  last time i tried to use it would not connect to the server ?
[19:09] <Unit193> Works for me™  When did you last try it?
[21:06] <karen_> Hi, I want to check a wireless mouse on my computer with Lubuntu. It doesn't seem to work on my Windows Vista computer. Can I do that without to much effort?
[21:06] <ianorlin> not sure of drivers but it plugs into a usb right?
[21:06] <karen_> I don't want to use it on Lubuntu just check it.   Ya a usb port.
[21:07] <ianorlin> how do you check it works without running it?
[21:07] <karen_> I guess it won't hurt to plug it in and try it, right?
[21:07] <ianorlin> nope
[21:08] <karen_> k
[21:09] <karen_> Nope, I think the mouse is broken. Thanks anyway.
[21:09] <ianorlin> does it need batteries in it?
[21:09] <karen_> I put new batteries in it.  It's been dropped a few times.
[21:10] <ianorlin> oh that will do it
[21:10] <karen_> hahaha yep
[21:54] <blinkdot> hey i have an problem, i'm trying to make an usb key bootable with lubuntu to install it on my hdd and all i can see is a blinking dot which never end
[21:55] <blinkdot> i have the same issue since few months, i given up, but this time i want to solve it :/
[22:07] <phillw> blinkdot: there have been reported issues with creating usb sticks. which method did you use and what version of lubuntu are you using?
[22:08] <blinkdot> 13.04, and i have tried with Universal USB Installer, Lili LinuxLive USB Creator and unetbootin
[22:09] <blinkdot> same thing happen with ubuntu
[22:11] <blinkdot> i do not have other usb stick to try with
[22:12] <blinkdot> it's more like a blinking dash, not dot
[22:12] <phillw> blinkdot: always ensure that you check the ISO before trying to transfer it to  a usb stick. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CheckISO_CD#Check_the_iso_file
[22:13] <blinkdot> md5 is ok
[22:13] <Unit193> blinkdot: Tried nomodeset and all?
[22:14] <blinkdot> no, i will try
[22:15] <phillw> I've been told that the pendrive linux system gives good results and have also used LiLi myself (it's on version 2.4.0 now).
[22:16] <Unit193> LiLi is pretty much the best tool, yeah.
[22:16] <blinkdot> i dot not have any menu at all i can't not select nomodeset
[22:16] <blinkdot> do*
[22:16] <Unit193> F6, Esc, type  nomodeset
[22:16] <Unit193> !nomodset
[22:17] <Unit193> !nomodeset
[22:17] <blinkdot> thx
[22:17] <blinkdot> i'm on an eeepc
[22:17] <Unit193> !eee
[22:20] <blinkdot> f6 and esc doing nothing, still a blinking dash. i will look at eeepc docs and the PLoP Boot Manager thanks
[22:22] <Unit193> Plop, woo!
[22:23]  * ianorlin uses plop everytime he boots this desktop
[22:23] <Unit193> ianorlin: Oh?  Rather than grub?  What do you think?
[22:23] <ianorlin> both as I need it to get usb boot on an external hard drive
[22:23] <ianorlin> as the internal one broke
[22:24] <ianorlin> I use plop to launch grub on the usb external hard drive
[22:24] <ianorlin> as no usb boot in bios
[22:24] <blinkdot> wow http://makegadgetswork.blogspot.fr/2012/02/how-to-boot-from-usb-when-bios-does-not.html#more there too much steps to make it working
[22:25] <blinkdot> i give up, thanks anyways guys
[22:25] <Unit193> Hah, nice.  Too bad it's not a bigger external or you could just take it out of the enclosure.
[22:25] <ianorlin> It is out of the enclosure
[22:26] <ianorlin> I have disabled the old one but haven't taken it out
[22:26] <blinkdot> i hope it get fixed in the next year so i can install ubuntu on my netbook, cya
[22:32] <ianorlin> Is there any way to reorder th right click options on lxterminal so the close this tab is not at the bottom?
[22:37] <Unit193> I don't personally know, use xfce4-terminal because last I knew you couldn't unbind a key in lxterminal.
[22:37] <ianorlin> I keep right clicking and it ends up closing my weechat connection
[22:38] <Unit193> Use screen?
[22:38] <ianorlin> screen?