[03:31] JohnX, I would ask jbicha about that, but he doesn't seem to be on right now. [03:55] robru, thanks. I'll try to catch jbicha if he gets on. In the meantime I left a message via the launchpad ppa contact form. sooner or later someone else will go to install the builds from today and realize they take up an extra 1.2GB of space [04:12] robru: do you know any core dev that would still be online from your part of the globe? [04:13] just thinking about packaging change acks now that a lot of Europe has a day off today [04:13] Mirv, it's 10:30 in my part of the globe... ;-) [04:13] robru: I know, but you're there as well, so... :) [04:14] I wonder if we'd have any NZ/Australians.. I guess I need to stare at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members [04:14] Mirv, yeah, but I'm the only guy I know who keeps crazy hours, sorry ;-) [04:14] robru: ok, thanks :) [04:14] Mirv, funny actually, I was *just* about to sign off when you pinged me. g'night! [04:16] robru: excellent night! [04:17] hey, Germany isn't on the list, this should be promising [04:18] mm, except Bavaria and Saarland. complicated. [04:24] Mirv: I'm core dev, whats up? [04:28] TheMuso`: do you have access to QA VPN? we just have a deal that we must get +1 from core dev's before publishing packages with packaging contents. in this case there'd be this diff to ack http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_platform-api_0.18.3+13.10.20130815-0ubuntu1.diff [04:28] well, now also at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5987618/ [04:29] s/contents/changes/ [04:30] that one is about tvoss fixing a typo in the API, but since it's a packaging change it blocks autopublishing of the platform stack (+ sdk stack) [04:30] more exactly it's this commit http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/revision/118 [04:30] Mirv Ido have VPN access, but its not currently set up. [04:31] * TheMuso` looks at pastebin. [04:31] Mirv: Hrm I've dealt with symbols before, but I don't feel comfortable dealing with symbols in a package I an unfamiliar with. [04:32] So whilst it *looks* ok to me, I don't feel I can comfortably give it an ack without really being sure that things are sane. [04:32] TheMuso`: ok, that's fine, I can try the Germans when they wake up [04:32] esp with any runtime deps. [04:32] usually didrocks does all the acks for me, but now both him and seb128 are having a holiday [04:33] Right. [04:34] And at a glance, that looks like a symbol rename to me... Do you know if any other packages use that symbol? [04:34] And from my limited knowledge, I would have thought that would also require a soname bump... [04:35] TheMuso`: I think the location API is very much work in progress at the moment, so I'm not sure how it's looked upon at the moment. but you're right. [04:36] I'll check with Thomas himself when he's here, and then with a core dev about acking it if ok === thumper is now known as thumper-afk [05:21] c === slomo__ is now known as slomo === thumper-afk is now known as thumper === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [10:32] mlankhorst, hi [10:36] hey [10:54] anyone knows if sil and didrocks are off today? [10:55] tvoss_: ok so france has a pub holiday today [10:55] asac, thx [10:56] sil i dont know :( [10:57] Mirv: hey [10:57] Mirv: can you help tvoss_ setting up a daily-release thing? [10:57] tvoss_: ^^ he might be your man :) [10:57] robru: ^^ you maybe? [10:58] Mirv, I would need ci and autolanding setup for lp:music-hub [11:01] asac/tvoss: sure, me / our team can help with that. I guess starting with debian/ that it currently lacks. [11:02] tvoss_: please set the maintainer to pspmteam and driver to some team that has ps-jenkins as a team member, so that I can ask QA team to set up the automerger. [11:02] like, phablet-team [11:03] Mirv: just curious: who from the QA team sets up the auto merger? [11:03] (usually?) [11:04] asac: I've asked fginther myself [11:04] good [11:04] maybe jibel? but he is on vacation, so not sure [11:05] most of Europe except us poor northerners are on vacation today [11:05] i am neither in germany [11:05] also north'ish :) [11:05] but not quiet yet i think [11:05] Mirv: what are they celebrating? [11:05] yeah, well UK and Germany are quite big exceptions to the most of Europe as well :) [11:06] christian stuff? [11:06] asac: I looked it up, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary - ie of Catholic origin [11:06] yep [11:06] ok so i guess south germany is also off :)... lazy folks === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:17] mlankhorst, I have a question about X with touch screen. You remember that I have tested patches regarding this and this finally made the bug getting fixed in x-staging PPA for Saucy. Currently I am using this x-staging therefore. My questions: 1. will this fix get into 13.10 final? 2. If I switch back to the official repos and there switch to MIR as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Installing will I get a stable touch scre [11:17] en experience (no stuck button)? [11:18] tkamppeter: I've uploaded a new xserver for 1.14, which should fix the issues [11:20] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.14.2.901-2ubuntu1 [11:22] hm why is that still in proposed [11:29] * Laney sighs [11:29] because of firefox autopkgtest [11:29] is anyone looking at that? [11:31] silly rhythmbox, fails to play a certain radio stream after upgrade to saucy [11:32] huh, firefox blocks xserver? [11:32] tests [11:33] but how? [11:33] depends trigger tests [11:33] ah, I get it [11:41] funfun [11:43] mlankhorst, thanks, I am trying it now ... [11:43] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-firefox/113/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/consoleFull [11:43] that's an annoying failure [11:44] no space left on device? :p [11:44] yes [11:45] when unpacking the source package even [11:45] indeed [11:45] eh === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:08] ok, my radio stream bug is lp1153934 [12:13] oh [12:13] hm that would explain why fluendo was failing I guess [12:42] robru, ping [12:59] mlankhorst, hi [12:59] so, after I upgraded this laptop to saucy yesterday ... [13:00] when I start it up it thinks there is an external monitor attached [13:00] and there is not [13:00] it causes problems until I "turn off" the fake monitor in system settings [13:00] I'm dist-upgrading right now with the xorg-xserver, though [13:04] rickspencer3: there might be, is it a hybrid ?:P [13:05] mlankhorst, yeah, it's a hybrid [13:05] it's probably seeing the LCD screen twice [13:05] xrandr -q ? [13:09] mlankhorst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988942/ [13:09] hm no, erroneously detecting VGA-1 as connected [13:10] mlankhorst, about 2 years ago I used a dual monitor setup [13:10] rickspencer3: can you file a bug against xorg and assign it to me? [13:10] my tiny brain suggests there is some config lying around [13:10] mlankhorst, sure [13:10] if there is something lying around it would probably show up in the bug report [13:15] mlankhorst, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1212677 [13:15] Launchpad bug 1212677 in xorg (Ubuntu) "When starting up laptop thinks there is a vga monitor attached, but there is not" [Undecided,New] === olli_ is now known as olli [13:24] cyphermox: I've quoted ken, you and robru as the other people QA can contact if/when they get the intel machine back up [13:24] Mirv: yup [13:32] rickspencer3: does vga-1 still show up if you do xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink nouveau 0 ? [13:33] mlankhorst, there is no output from that command [13:33] yeah it disables nouveau [13:33] hm for some reason it sets 1024x768 on nouveau, don't see why [13:40] rickspencer3: I don't really see if 3.11 made it worse, did you try with 3.10 kernel? [13:40] mlankhorst, no [13:40] this was a raving -> saucy upgrade [13:40] although from the looks of it, 3.11 might be the first one that worked properly with nouveau on that card [13:41] which, honestly, went amazingly well [13:41] this is the only real problem [13:41] rickspencer3: yeah if I know in what kernel things went wrong it should be easier for me to pin down :-) [13:41] mlankhorst, I fully accept the possibility that this is the first time the nvidia card has done anything interesting [13:41] such as worked [13:42] heheheh [13:42] mlankhorst, hmmm [13:42] I don't think I would like to bisect between saucy and this kernel [13:42] that sounds time consuming [13:42] mlankhorst, let me know if you see other reports like this [13:42] no saucy has a 3.10 kernel you could use, I just need to know roughly what kernel release has it first [13:42] mlankhorst, ok [13:43] I was up to date with saucy [13:43] dist-upgraded day before yesterday [13:43] got the issue [13:43] I just dist-upgraded today but haven't rebooted yet [13:43] considering raring was 3.8 it shouldn't be hard to find :) [13:43] oh are you sure? [13:43] mlankhorst, am I sure I haven't rebooted? [13:43] yes :) [13:43] your kernel log says 3.11 [13:44] mlankhorst, I came in < 1 hour ago [13:44] started my computer [13:44] oh that [13:44] ran a dist-upgrade [13:44] have not rebooted [13:44] yeah i thought after upgrading to saucy ;) [13:44] mlankhorst, let me restart and see what happens [13:44] brb [13:46] mlankhorst, the non-existent display is still there, but it remember my settings to keep it turned off [13:47] mlankhorst, ironically, I do plan to attach a monitor to that vga port, I just don't happen to have a vga cable atm [13:56] hm it claims there are 2 vga-ports :P [15:55] asac, Mirv, fginther: pong. I am just waking up. what's up? [15:56] robru, there was something about the phone-gap tests [15:56] trying to remember... [15:57] robru, nope, it was something else. I see the webapps stack is now being published, correct? [15:57] fginther, webapps has been green for a long time, hasn't it? I can't recall the last red we had. lately most of the reds come from unity/unity8 [15:59] robru, the webapp stack check step was removed "no tests until unity_webapps_qml is fixed" [15:59] robru, looks like that was done 2 days ago [16:00] robru: sleep is for the weak i used to say (but not anymore) [16:00] :) [16:00] good morning [16:00] fginther, oh, right, forgot about qml. yeah, that has been an ongoing issue for webapps. [16:01] asac, hello [16:01] sleep is for the week ... [16:01] you always tyop that [16:01] *typo :P [16:01] fginther, sorry, wait, are you saying that webapps is no longer running any tests for the whole stack? who the heck did that? they should have just disabled tests for unity-webapps-qml [16:01] ogra_: hehe [16:02] robru,"extracheck: False" [16:02] robru, looks like unity_webapps_qml was the only test defined [16:03] fginther, are we talking specifically about autopilot tests? because other webapps had unit tests running during build. [16:03] robru, right, just the autopilot tests [16:03] fginther, oh, I guess that's ok then. yeah, -qml was the only one with an autopilot test. [16:04] fginther, i don't understand the -qml failures myself, but vrruiz and alex-abreu are working on it. it seems to be quite the challenge (I've seen a handful of branches merged claiming to fix it, but they don't fix it) [16:04] robru, I'm trying to figure out if there is a timeline for when this needs to work again [16:05] obviously as soon as possible, but does didrocks have some further specificatin? [16:05] fginther, not that I'm aware of. the -qml failures have been escalated to pat and it's a top priority as far as I understand. [16:05] robru, ok, sounds like the right things have happened. thanks [16:06] fginther, you're welcome [17:09] cyphermox, do you know what's happening with unity daily release? [17:09] cyphermox, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/1019/ doesn't look good [17:09] Saviq: I was following it before, now eating [17:09] just a second, I'll look [17:09] cyphermox, enjoy [17:11] yuck [17:12] Saviq: I don't know what's up with that, I'll wait until they're all done and then I'll ping the responsible :) [17:12] cyphermox, ok :) [17:30] mlankhorst, I'm about to plug a real vga monitor into my laptop [17:30] :) [17:30] here goes [17:37] mlankhorst, no love [17:38] won't output to the real display [17:38] at least, I can't figure out how to configure it to do so [18:46] cyphermox, can I get you to preNEW https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-docviewer-dev/poppler-qml-plugin/trunk ? thanks! [18:50] robru: preNEW? [18:51] you mean packaging review? [18:51] cyphermox, yeah, can't you do that? I need an archive admin to pre-approve the packaging before uploading to universe. [18:52] cyphermox, I did a bunch of packaging work already, just running it through pbuilder now to check the deps [19:21] robru: yes, I can review it and upload [19:22] but then it will need to be reviewed by an archive admin ;) [19:22] cyphermox, I thought you were an archive admin? [19:24] robru: no ;) [19:25] cyphermox, at the meeting last tuesday you said you were avaialble for reviewing manually published packaging changes? what is it that grants you that priveledge? [19:26] I thought you guys meant reviewing packaging changes and sponsoring [19:26] I have upload rights [19:26] I can't NEW stuff from the queue [19:26] so there's a difference between "upload rights" and "archive admin"? [19:26] yes [19:26] this is news to me [19:26] archive admins can review packages in teh saucy queue, like new binary or source packages, to triple-check copyright and things like that [19:27] a kind of last sanity check for new things coming in, or once we're in freeze to avoid breakage [19:28] but there's more general upload privilege which just about anyone can have, to push things into the queue [19:32] robru: I'd point you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers ;) [19:32] robru, upload rights are a privilege ... archive admin is a duty ... luckily they dont come as a package [19:34] ogra_, cyphermox: thanks. so ignorant of the process that i didn't realize there was a difference [19:34] rickspencer3: erm it should work afaik [19:34] robru: I've mentioned before happily volunteering for AA [19:35] archive admins can bump your build score :) it is good to know what bribes they take [19:36] ogra_: topic on -release... [19:36] haha, i forgot that one [19:37] (it used to list chocolate and fuzzy teddybears too in the past) [19:38] ohh, I missed that [19:44] mlankhorst, no love [19:44] the external monitor seems to be detected, but stays blank [19:44] hm fun [19:45] any error showing up in dmesg? [20:16] robru: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/poppler-qml-plugin/bootstrap/+merge/180412 [20:20] robru: also, https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/unity-mir/bootstrap/+merge/180415 [20:20] ^ if you have time to help out a bit [20:55] cyphermox, absolutely [21:08] cyphermox, fginther: are either of you familiar with this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5990512/ I can't seem to update the sdk stack with the new poppler job in it. [21:09] robru, does the u1db-qt branch have the right ownership? [21:10] robru, hmm, probably not, ps jenkins is a member of the owning team [21:10] fginther, I dunno... [21:10] fginther, wait, "probably not" the right ownership, or "probably not" the problem? [21:10] probably not the problem [21:10] it looks like the right ownership [21:11] fginther, oh, probably just that *I* don't have the right group membership for that branch. can somebody update sdk stack for me? ;-) [21:12] robru, I'm afraid I can't [21:12] cyphermox, ^ ? [21:12] robru, can you run it as ps jenkins bot? [21:12] fginther, er, no? [21:13] robru, for example, can you log into the machine that runs the jenkins jobs and run your script there [21:13] fginther, ... no [21:13] hey robru ... so I think I got an aport report for my RB crasher: [21:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/1212847 [21:13] Launchpad bug 1212847 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with signal 7 in rb_player_gst_find_element_with_property()" [Undecided,New] [21:14] rickspencer3, great! [21:14] rickspencer3, that'll go a long way to a solution. [21:16] robru: that's going to be painful [21:17] cyphermox, which, my pastebin or rick's rb bug? ;-) [21:17] robru: I don't know why it says its locked [21:17] your pastebin ;D [21:17] cyphermox, last time I saw this error, I ran it again and it worked fine. but this time I got this error three times in a row, no idea how to fix it [21:18] robru: give me a second I'll try something [21:18] cyphermox, give me a sec, I just joined the group that owns that branch, maybe that'll do it [21:19] ah, possibly yes [21:19] totally just worked ;-) [21:19] makes sense ;) [21:19] awesome [21:19] robru: can I let you handle the rest of stuff for daily-release until later? [21:20] cyphermox, alright, poppler-qml-plugin job is showing up in jenkins now. so that'll run in under 2hrs. [21:20] I'd be back in about 5 or 6 hours [21:20] cyphermox, wait, what rest of the stuff? [21:20] well, you know, daily-release in general [21:20] if you added poppler we're good, I think [21:20] cyphermox, yeah, ok, I thought I was done ;-) [21:21] cyphermox, I'm headed out in 2hrs myself [21:21] we'll still need to add unity-mir but I'd like to know if sil didn't intend to do something first [21:21] oh? [21:21] cyphermox, yeah, dinner plans. [21:21] cyphermox, surely it'll be fine if left alone for a couple hours? [21:21] there should be a build starting in half an hour or so [21:22] but yeah, it should be good [21:22] cyphermox, yeah, I'll keep tabs on that one [21:22] I'll be online on gtalk and stuff, ping me if there's anything [21:22] cyphermox, yeah, I'll also be back on later so we can both catch up on any problems [21:22] great [21:24] perhaps I'll pack my laptop just to be on the safe side [21:24] bbl === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso [23:06] fginther, still around? can you set up lp:poppler-qml-plugin for CI?