[03:31] <robru> JohnX, I would ask jbicha about that, but he doesn't seem to be on right now.
[03:55] <JohnX> robru, thanks. I'll try to catch jbicha if he gets on. In the meantime I left a message via the launchpad ppa contact form. sooner or later someone else will go to install the builds from today and realize they take up an extra 1.2GB of space
[04:12] <Mirv> robru: do you know any core dev that would still be online from your part of the globe?
[04:13] <Mirv> just thinking about packaging change acks now that a lot of Europe has a day off today
[04:13] <robru> Mirv, it's 10:30 in my part of the globe... ;-)
[04:13] <Mirv> robru: I know, but you're there as well, so... :)
[04:14] <Mirv> I wonder if we'd have any NZ/Australians.. I guess I need to stare at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members
[04:14] <robru> Mirv, yeah, but I'm the only guy I know who keeps crazy hours, sorry ;-)
[04:14] <Mirv> robru: ok, thanks :)
[04:14] <robru> Mirv, funny actually, I was *just* about to sign off when you pinged me. g'night!
[04:16] <Mirv> robru: excellent night!
[04:17] <Mirv> hey, Germany isn't on the list, this should be promising
[04:18] <Mirv> mm, except Bavaria and Saarland. complicated.
[04:24] <TheMuso`> Mirv: I'm core dev, whats up?
[04:28] <Mirv> TheMuso`: do you have access to QA VPN? we just have a deal that we must get +1 from core dev's before publishing packages with packaging contents. in this case there'd be this diff to ack http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_platform-api_0.18.3+13.10.20130815-0ubuntu1.diff
[04:28] <Mirv> well, now also at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5987618/
[04:29] <Mirv> s/contents/changes/
[04:30] <Mirv> that one is about tvoss fixing a typo in the API, but since it's a packaging change it blocks autopublishing of the platform stack (+ sdk stack)
[04:30] <Mirv> more exactly it's this commit http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk/revision/118
[04:30] <TheMuso`>                                               Mirv Ido have VPN access, but its not currently set up.
[04:31]  * TheMuso` looks at pastebin.
[04:31] <TheMuso`> Mirv: Hrm I've dealt with symbols before, but I don't feel comfortable dealing with symbols in a package I an unfamiliar with.
[04:32] <TheMuso`> So whilst it *looks* ok to me, I don't feel I can comfortably give it an ack without really being sure that things are sane.
[04:32] <Mirv> TheMuso`: ok, that's fine, I can try the Germans when they wake up
[04:32] <TheMuso`> esp with any runtime deps.
[04:32] <Mirv> usually didrocks does all the acks for me, but now both him and seb128 are having a holiday
[04:33] <TheMuso`> Right.
[04:34] <TheMuso`> And at a glance, that looks like a symbol rename to me... Do you know if any other packages use that symbol?
[04:34] <TheMuso`> And from my limited knowledge, I would have thought that would also require a soname bump...
[04:35] <Mirv> TheMuso`: I think the location API is very much work in progress at the moment, so I'm not sure how it's looked upon at the moment. but you're right.
[04:36] <Mirv> I'll check with Thomas himself when he's here, and then with a core dev about acking it if ok
[05:21] <TheMuso`> c
[10:32] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, hi
[10:36] <mlankhorst> hey
[10:54] <asac> anyone knows if sil and didrocks are off today?
[10:55] <asac> tvoss_: ok so france has a pub holiday today
[10:55] <tvoss_> asac, thx
[10:56] <asac> sil i dont know :(
[10:57] <asac> Mirv: hey
[10:57] <asac> Mirv: can you help tvoss_ setting up a daily-release thing?
[10:57] <asac> tvoss_: ^^ he might be your man :)
[10:57] <asac> robru: ^^ you maybe?
[10:58] <tvoss_> Mirv, I would need ci and autolanding setup for lp:music-hub
[11:01] <Mirv> asac/tvoss: sure, me / our team can help with that. I guess starting with debian/ that it currently lacks.
[11:02] <Mirv> tvoss_: please set the maintainer to pspmteam and driver to some team that has ps-jenkins as a team member, so that I can ask QA team to set up the automerger.
[11:02] <Mirv> like, phablet-team
[11:03] <asac> Mirv: just curious: who from the QA team sets up the auto merger?
[11:03] <asac> (usually?)
[11:04] <Mirv> asac: I've asked fginther myself
[11:04] <asac> good
[11:04] <asac> maybe jibel? but he is on vacation, so not sure
[11:05] <Mirv> most of Europe except us poor northerners are on vacation today
[11:05] <asac> i am neither in germany
[11:05] <asac> also north'ish :)
[11:05] <asac> but not quiet yet i think
[11:05] <asac> Mirv: what are they celebrating?
[11:05] <Mirv> yeah, well UK and Germany are quite big exceptions to the most of Europe as well :)
[11:06] <asac> christian stuff?
[11:06] <Mirv> asac: I looked it up, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Mary - ie of Catholic origin
[11:06] <Mirv> yep
[11:06] <asac> ok so i guess south germany is also off :)... lazy folks
[11:17] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, I have a question about X with touch screen. You remember that I have tested patches regarding this and this finally made the bug getting fixed in x-staging PPA for Saucy. Currently I am using this x-staging therefore. My questions: 1. will this fix get into 13.10 final? 2. If I switch back to the official repos and there switch to MIR as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Installing will I get a stable touch scre
[11:17] <tkamppeter> en experience (no stuck button)?
[11:18] <mlankhorst> tkamppeter: I've uploaded a new xserver for 1.14, which should fix the issues
[11:20] <mlankhorst> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.14.2.901-2ubuntu1
[11:22] <mlankhorst> hm why is that still in proposed
[11:29]  * Laney sighs
[11:29] <Laney> because of firefox autopkgtest
[11:29] <Laney> is anyone looking at that?
[11:31] <tjaalton> silly rhythmbox, fails to play a certain radio stream after upgrade to saucy
[11:32] <tjaalton> huh, firefox blocks xserver?
[11:32] <Laney> tests
[11:33] <tjaalton> but how?
[11:33] <Laney> depends trigger tests
[11:33] <tjaalton> ah, I get it
[11:41] <mlankhorst> funfun
[11:43] <tkamppeter> mlankhorst, thanks, I am trying it now ...
[11:43] <Laney> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-firefox/113/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/consoleFull
[11:43] <Laney> that's an annoying failure
[11:44] <mlankhorst> no space left on device? :p
[11:44] <Laney> yes
[11:45] <Laney> when unpacking the source package even
[11:45] <mlankhorst> indeed
[11:45] <tjaalton> eh
[12:08] <tjaalton> ok, my radio stream bug is lp1153934
[12:13] <mlankhorst> oh
[12:13] <mlankhorst> hm that would explain why fluendo was failing I guess
[12:42] <fginther> robru, ping
[12:59] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, hi
[12:59] <rickspencer3> so, after I upgraded this laptop to saucy yesterday ...
[13:00] <rickspencer3> when I start it up it thinks there is an external monitor attached
[13:00] <rickspencer3> and there is not
[13:00] <rickspencer3> it causes problems until I "turn off" the fake monitor in system settings
[13:00] <rickspencer3> I'm dist-upgrading right now with the xorg-xserver, though
[13:04] <mlankhorst> rickspencer3: there might be, is it a hybrid ?:P
[13:05] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, yeah, it's a hybrid
[13:05] <mlankhorst> it's probably seeing the LCD screen twice
[13:05] <mlankhorst> xrandr -q ?
[13:09] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988942/
[13:09] <mlankhorst> hm no, erroneously detecting VGA-1 as connected
[13:10] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, about 2 years ago I used a dual monitor setup
[13:10] <mlankhorst> rickspencer3: can you file a bug against xorg and assign it to me?
[13:10] <rickspencer3> my tiny brain suggests there is some config lying around
[13:10] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, sure
[13:10] <mlankhorst> if there is something lying around it would probably show up in the bug report
[13:15] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1212677
[13:15] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1212677 in xorg (Ubuntu) "When starting up laptop thinks there is a vga monitor attached, but there is not" [Undecided,New]
[13:24] <Mirv> cyphermox: I've quoted ken, you and robru as the other people QA can contact if/when they get the intel machine back up
[13:24] <cyphermox> Mirv: yup
[13:32] <mlankhorst> rickspencer3: does vga-1 still show up if you do xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink nouveau 0 ?
[13:33] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, there is no output from that command
[13:33] <mlankhorst> yeah it disables nouveau
[13:33] <mlankhorst> hm for some reason it sets 1024x768 on nouveau, don't see why
[13:40] <mlankhorst> rickspencer3: I don't really see if 3.11 made it worse, did you try with 3.10 kernel?
[13:40] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, no
[13:40] <rickspencer3> this was a raving -> saucy upgrade
[13:40] <mlankhorst> although from the looks of it, 3.11 might be the first one that worked properly with nouveau on that card
[13:41] <rickspencer3> which, honestly, went amazingly well
[13:41] <rickspencer3> this is the only real problem
[13:41] <mlankhorst> rickspencer3: yeah if I know in what kernel things went wrong it should be easier for me to pin down :-)
[13:41] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, I fully accept the possibility that this is the first time the nvidia card has done anything interesting
[13:41] <rickspencer3> such as worked
[13:42] <mlankhorst> heheheh
[13:42] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, hmmm
[13:42] <rickspencer3> I don't think I would like to bisect between saucy and this kernel
[13:42] <rickspencer3> that sounds time consuming
[13:42] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, let me know if you see other reports like this
[13:42] <mlankhorst> no saucy has a 3.10 kernel you could use, I just need to know roughly what kernel release has it first
[13:42] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, ok
[13:43] <rickspencer3> I was up to date with saucy
[13:43] <rickspencer3> dist-upgraded day before yesterday
[13:43] <rickspencer3> got the issue
[13:43] <rickspencer3> I just dist-upgraded today but haven't rebooted yet
[13:43] <mlankhorst> considering raring was 3.8 it shouldn't be hard to find :)
[13:43] <mlankhorst> oh are you sure?
[13:43] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, am I sure I haven't rebooted?
[13:43] <rickspencer3> yes :)
[13:43] <mlankhorst> your kernel log says 3.11
[13:44] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, I came in < 1 hour ago
[13:44] <rickspencer3> started my computer
[13:44] <mlankhorst> oh that
[13:44] <rickspencer3> ran a dist-upgrade
[13:44] <rickspencer3> have not rebooted
[13:44] <mlankhorst> yeah i thought after upgrading to saucy ;)
[13:44] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, let me restart and see what happens
[13:44] <rickspencer3> brb
[13:46] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, the non-existent display is still there, but it remember my settings to keep it turned off
[13:47] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, ironically, I do plan to attach a monitor to that vga port, I just don't happen to have a vga cable atm
[13:56] <mlankhorst> hm it claims there are 2 vga-ports :P
[15:55] <robru> asac, Mirv, fginther: pong. I am just waking up. what's up?
[15:56] <fginther> robru, there was something about the phone-gap tests
[15:56] <fginther> trying to remember...
[15:57] <fginther> robru, nope, it was something else. I see the webapps stack is now being published, correct?
[15:57] <robru> fginther, webapps has been green for a long time, hasn't it? I can't recall the last red we had. lately most of the reds come from unity/unity8
[15:59] <fginther> robru, the webapp stack check step was removed "no tests until unity_webapps_qml is fixed"
[15:59] <fginther> robru, looks like that was done 2 days ago
[16:00] <asac> robru: sleep is for the weak i used to say (but not anymore)
[16:00] <asac> :)
[16:00] <asac> good morning
[16:00] <robru> fginther, oh, right, forgot about qml. yeah, that has been an ongoing issue for webapps.
[16:01] <robru> asac, hello
[16:01] <ogra_> sleep is for the week ...
[16:01] <ogra_> you always tyop that
[16:01] <ogra_> *typo :P
[16:01] <robru> fginther, sorry, wait, are you saying that webapps is no longer running any tests for the whole stack? who the heck did that? they should have just disabled tests for unity-webapps-qml
[16:01] <asac> ogra_: hehe
[16:02] <fginther> robru,"extracheck: False"
[16:02] <fginther> robru, looks like unity_webapps_qml was the only test defined
[16:03] <robru> fginther, are we talking specifically about autopilot tests? because other webapps had unit tests running during build.
[16:03] <fginther> robru, right, just the autopilot tests
[16:03] <robru> fginther, oh, I guess that's ok then. yeah, -qml was the only one with an autopilot test.
[16:04] <robru> fginther, i don't understand the -qml failures myself, but vrruiz and alex-abreu are working on it. it seems to be quite the challenge (I've seen a handful of branches merged claiming to fix it, but they don't fix it)
[16:04] <fginther> robru, I'm trying to figure out if there is a timeline for when this needs to work again
[16:05] <fginther> obviously as soon as possible, but does didrocks have some further specificatin?
[16:05] <robru> fginther, not that I'm aware of. the -qml failures have been escalated to pat and it's a top priority as far as I understand.
[16:05] <fginther> robru, ok, sounds like the right things have happened. thanks
[16:06] <robru> fginther, you're welcome
[17:09] <Saviq> cyphermox, do you know what's happening with unity daily release?
[17:09] <Saviq> cyphermox, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/1019/ doesn't look good
[17:09] <cyphermox> Saviq: I was following it before, now eating
[17:09] <cyphermox> just a second, I'll look
[17:09] <Saviq> cyphermox, enjoy
[17:11] <cyphermox> yuck
[17:12] <cyphermox> Saviq: I don't know what's up with that, I'll wait until they're all done and then I'll ping the responsible :)
[17:12] <Saviq> cyphermox, ok :)
[17:30] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, I'm about to plug a real vga monitor into my laptop
[17:30] <rickspencer3> :)
[17:30] <rickspencer3> here goes
[17:37] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, no love
[17:38] <rickspencer3> won't output to the real display
[17:38] <rickspencer3> at least, I can't figure out how to configure it to do so
[18:46] <robru> cyphermox, can I get you to preNEW https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-docviewer-dev/poppler-qml-plugin/trunk ? thanks!
[18:50] <cyphermox> robru: preNEW?
[18:51] <cyphermox> you mean packaging review?
[18:51] <robru> cyphermox, yeah, can't you do that? I need an archive admin to pre-approve the packaging before uploading to universe.
[18:52] <robru> cyphermox, I did a bunch of packaging work already, just running it through pbuilder now to check the deps
[19:21] <cyphermox> robru: yes, I can review it and upload
[19:22] <cyphermox> but then it will need to be reviewed by an archive admin ;)
[19:22] <robru> cyphermox, I thought you were an archive admin?
[19:24] <cyphermox> robru: no ;)
[19:25] <robru> cyphermox, at the meeting last tuesday you said you were avaialble for reviewing manually published packaging changes? what is it that grants you that priveledge?
[19:26] <cyphermox> I thought you guys meant reviewing packaging changes and sponsoring
[19:26] <cyphermox> I have upload rights
[19:26] <cyphermox> I can't NEW stuff from the queue
[19:26] <robru> so there's a difference between "upload rights" and "archive admin"?
[19:26] <cyphermox> yes
[19:26] <robru> this is news to me
[19:26] <cyphermox> archive admins can review packages in teh saucy queue, like new binary or source packages, to triple-check copyright and things like that
[19:27] <cyphermox> a kind of last sanity check for new things coming in, or once we're in freeze to avoid breakage
[19:28] <cyphermox> but there's more general upload privilege which just about anyone can have, to push things into the queue
[19:32] <cyphermox> robru: I'd point you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers ;)
[19:32] <ogra_> robru, upload rights are a privilege ... archive admin is a duty ... luckily they dont come as a package
[19:34] <robru> ogra_, cyphermox: thanks. so ignorant of the process that i didn't realize there was a difference
[19:34] <mlankhorst> rickspencer3: erm it should work afaik
[19:34] <cyphermox> robru: I've mentioned before happily volunteering for AA
[19:35] <ogra_> archive admins can bump your build score :) it is good to know what bribes they take
[19:36] <cyphermox> ogra_: topic on -release...
[19:36] <ogra_> haha, i forgot that one
[19:37] <ogra_> (it used to list chocolate and fuzzy teddybears too in the past)
[19:38] <cyphermox> ohh, I missed that
[19:44] <rickspencer3> mlankhorst, no love
[19:44] <rickspencer3> the external monitor seems to be detected, but stays blank
[19:44] <mlankhorst> hm fun
[19:45] <mlankhorst> any error showing up in dmesg?
[20:16] <cyphermox> robru: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/poppler-qml-plugin/bootstrap/+merge/180412
[20:20] <cyphermox> robru: also, https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/unity-mir/bootstrap/+merge/180415
[20:20] <cyphermox> ^ if you have time to help out a bit
[20:55] <robru> cyphermox, absolutely
[21:08] <robru> cyphermox, fginther: are either of you familiar with this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5990512/ I can't seem to update the sdk stack with the new poppler job in it.
[21:09] <fginther> robru, does the u1db-qt branch have the right ownership?
[21:10] <fginther> robru, hmm, probably not, ps jenkins is a member of the owning team
[21:10] <robru> fginther, I dunno...
[21:10] <robru> fginther, wait, "probably not" the right ownership, or "probably not" the problem?
[21:10] <fginther> probably not the problem
[21:10] <fginther> it looks like the right ownership
[21:11] <robru> fginther, oh, probably just that *I* don't have the right group membership for that branch. can somebody update sdk stack for me? ;-)
[21:12] <fginther> robru, I'm afraid I can't
[21:12] <robru> cyphermox, ^ ?
[21:12] <fginther> robru, can you run it as ps jenkins bot?
[21:12] <robru> fginther, er, no?
[21:13] <fginther> robru, for example, can you log into the machine that runs the jenkins jobs and run your script there
[21:13] <robru> fginther, ... no
[21:13] <rickspencer3> hey robru ... so I think I got an aport report for my RB crasher:
[21:13] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/1212847
[21:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1212847 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with signal 7 in rb_player_gst_find_element_with_property()" [Undecided,New]
[21:14] <robru> rickspencer3, great!
[21:14] <robru> rickspencer3, that'll go a long way to a solution.
[21:16] <cyphermox> robru: that's going to be painful
[21:17] <robru> cyphermox, which, my pastebin or rick's rb bug? ;-)
[21:17] <cyphermox> robru: I don't know why it says its locked
[21:17] <cyphermox> your pastebin ;D
[21:17] <robru> cyphermox, last time I saw this error, I ran it again and it worked fine. but this time I got this error three times in a row, no idea how to fix it
[21:18] <cyphermox> robru: give me a second I'll try something
[21:18] <robru> cyphermox, give me a sec, I just joined the group that owns that branch, maybe that'll do it
[21:19] <cyphermox> ah, possibly yes
[21:19] <robru> totally just worked ;-)
[21:19] <cyphermox> makes sense ;)
[21:19] <cyphermox> awesome
[21:19] <cyphermox> robru: can I let you handle the rest of stuff for daily-release until later?
[21:20] <robru> cyphermox, alright, poppler-qml-plugin job is showing up in jenkins now. so that'll run in under 2hrs.
[21:20] <cyphermox> I'd be back in about 5 or 6 hours
[21:20] <robru> cyphermox, wait, what rest of the stuff?
[21:20] <cyphermox> well, you know, daily-release in general
[21:20] <cyphermox> if you added poppler we're good, I think
[21:20] <robru> cyphermox, yeah, ok, I thought I was done ;-)
[21:21] <robru> cyphermox, I'm headed out in 2hrs myself
[21:21] <cyphermox> we'll still need to add unity-mir but I'd like to know if sil didn't intend to do something first
[21:21] <cyphermox> oh?
[21:21] <robru> cyphermox, yeah, dinner plans.
[21:21] <robru> cyphermox, surely it'll be fine if left alone for a couple hours?
[21:21] <cyphermox> there should be a build starting in half an hour or so
[21:22] <cyphermox> but yeah, it should be good
[21:22] <robru> cyphermox, yeah, I'll keep tabs on that one
[21:22] <cyphermox> I'll be online on gtalk and stuff, ping me if there's anything
[21:22] <robru> cyphermox, yeah, I'll also be back on later so we can both catch up on any problems
[21:22] <cyphermox> great
[21:24] <cyphermox> perhaps I'll pack my laptop just to be on the safe side
[21:24] <cyphermox> bbl
[23:06] <robru> fginther, still around? can you set up lp:poppler-qml-plugin for CI?