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| apw | zequence, yo .. about ? | 07:33 |
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| xequence | apw: yep | 08:12 |
| apw | xequence, i thought you were on holiday | 08:12 |
| apw | and ... what happened to your z | 08:12 |
| xequence | apw: I'm in Switzerland, yes. More like a holiday from my holiday | 08:13 |
| xequence | apw: I left the z at my server, and cant login to it | 08:13 |
| apw | xequence, hehe ... well as you are on holiday i am doing the rebases for Q and R for lowlatency for you | 08:13 |
| apw | xequence, ... but it might make sense if you added me to your ubuntu-studio git repo so i can push the result for you | 08:13 |
| xequence | apw: oh, thanks. Yeah, sure. | 08:14 |
| apw | xequence, i am awhitcroft on github | 08:15 |
| xequence | apw: Yep | 08:15 |
| xequence | apw: Think I found the right buttons to let you push and pull | 08:20 |
| apw | xequence, we shall see shortly thanks | 08:21 |
| infinity | xequence: Hey, want to add adconrad as a member to that too, just in case? :P | 08:31 |
| xequence | infinity: Sure. Just a sec | 08:36 |
| xequence | infinity: Should be done | 08:38 |
| infinity | xequence: Looks good, thanks. | 08:40 |
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| === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi | ||
| jk- | hey infinity | 08:53 |
| stgraber | apw: hey, do you have a link to your sbuild sources.list magic script? | 09:10 |
| stgraber | apw: I remember infinity mentioning it a couple of times and I had a paste.ubuntu.com link for it but it doesn't work anymore (DB was reset) | 09:11 |
| apw | stgraber, it is in the kteam-tools repo, in the apt-pocket directory ... git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/kteam-tools | 09:12 |
| apw | stgraber, that is also on gitweb on kernel.ubuntu.com if you want to avoid a clone | 09:12 |
| apw | stgraber, heh ... so there is a pretty comprehensive readme in there as well | 09:13 |
| apw | seems to work pretty well for me, sbuild --arch amd64 -c saucy-proposed+main <thing>.dsc stylee | 09:13 |
| stgraber | apw: cool, thanks | 09:33 |
| apw | stgraber, if you are on anything newer than P then things are simpler to undo as well | 09:35 |
| jodh | apw, smb: now that 3.11 is out of proposed, we're seeing different errors (kernel BUGs) wrt the nested kvm issue. See latest details on bug 1208455. | 10:17 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1208455 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "general protection fault running apt-get inside double nested kvm VM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208455 | 10:17 |
| apw | jodh, you are really trying to hurt yourself arn't you | 10:18 |
| jodh | apw,smb: I'm going to try running everything locally for now and will report back but could you guys take a look at this again? | 10:19 |
| jodh | apw: :) | 10:19 |
| smb | apw, jodh Can try to reproduce though | 10:19 |
| smb | jodh, Have you documented clearly what steps you run _in_ the bug report | 10:20 |
| smb | ? | 10:20 |
| apw | jodh, so to confirm this is 3.11 in all three cases or somethign else, and it is the host who is blowing chunks | 10:20 |
| jodh | smb: yes - the latest comments show that it happens running bin/prepare-testbed | 10:20 |
| jodh | apw: well, I can't as this is via canonistack so I don't know what kernel the host is actually running. | 10:21 |
| apw | jodh, and which kernel croaks | 10:22 |
| apw | jodh, so ... waht we need is a canonistack recipe, if you can't put that in the bug, email it to smb and i | 10:22 |
| apw | and me | 10:22 |
| * smb needs to find out whether his credentials still work and if he got them | 10:23 | |
| jodh | apw: the kernel running within the kvm instance that is spun up by prepare-testbed (ie the first kvm created on top of the (possibly kvm) canonistack instance I'm given by euca-run-instances). | 10:23 |
| jodh | apw: recipe? You mean the steps I took to create the canonistack instance? | 10:24 |
| apw | jodh, yeah so ... that is gobblydeegook. we are dumb kernel people here, who are scared of userspace apps. a nice "cut-n-paste these 7 commands and watch the fireworks" | 10:24 |
| smb | jodh, Yes, so we can follow that as cloesely as possible | 10:25 |
| jodh | apw: ok, give me a couple of mins... | 10:25 |
| apw | we really are clueless about most things, including canonistack :) | 10:25 |
| apw | though i have used it so i do have creds at least | 10:25 |
| smb | Well we got machines able to run kvm... so why would we :) | 10:26 |
| smb | apw, On unrelated note (before I forget after the context switch): what am I supposed to do with Xen-4.3. All but the xen-api/xcp related package which have dependencies compile ok with the changes. blktap, xen-api-libs ad xen-api do not but due to not being compilable at all anymore in saucy. I can change my xen package to not include blktap which may drop some functionality but then we have not shipped before any devel libs that would all | 10:31 |
| smb | ow to compile against anything there... | 10:31 |
| smb | all + ow -> allow | 10:32 |
| smb | Maybe a question for infinity (if awake or when woken) | 10:36 |
| apw | yeah i think that is beyond my current knowledge. we are a bit stuck if xen-api is unhappy i know it stayed unhappy for a while last time | 10:39 |
| stgraber | apw: hey, any hope of getting my small kernel patch reviewed in the near future? ;) | 11:36 |
| stgraber | apw: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/24/518 | 11:36 |
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| apw | stgraber, ok what we should do is get you to resend it, to the same people, and add me to the CC:, with [RESEND] on the subject line (include the Ack from serge as well). then people are reminded and i can review it too, which it looks ok to me | 12:06 |
| apw | and i can say "hmmm this has been hanging about for a long time" etc | 12:07 |
| apw | as it is from 4 months ago | 12:07 |
| apw | stgraber, looking at the patch abstractly i wonder if it might make sense to make it like a prefix, so like %hp was the pid in that space so we could use only one new letter for any number of 'not the one inside the container, but the one outside the container' | 12:13 |
| apw | i asume pids have the same issue | 12:13 |
| apw | i mean uids | 12:14 |
| * henrix -> lunch | 12:29 | |
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| * smb notes to jodh that he has not received any notes on setting up a canonistack instance, yet | 13:13 | |
| === fmasi_lunch is now known as fmasi | ||
| jodh | smb: I've put step-by-step instructions on bug 1208455. | 14:37 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1208455 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "general protection fault running apt-get inside double nested kvm VM" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208455 | 14:37 |
| smb | jodh, How convenient that this is a bug I am not subscribed to, yet. :-P | 14:38 |
| smb | Done now | 14:40 |
| smb | Probably should have done before | 14:40 |
| thariman | Hi how do I file a bug on Microsoft Sorface Pro wifi does not work ? | 15:01 |
| thariman | does running ubuntu-bug linux sufficient ? | 15:03 |
| xequence | infinity: Is it too loate so SRU the raring lowlatency to the lTS? | 15:08 |
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| smb | jodh, So I followed your instructions and seem to have no space left on device on /... | 15:38 |
| jodh | smb: ok. In which case, "rm -rf /tmp/adt", create a directory in /mnt that user ubuntu can write to (say /mnt/adt) to and then "echo BASEDIR=/mnt/adt > ~/.adtrc". | 15:39 |
| jodh | smb: autopkgtest should then use /mnt which has lots of space on medium guests. | 15:40 |
| smb | jodh, is that what *you* do as well? | 15:41 |
| jodh | smb: I think something has changed recently in adt. It's rather difficult to document every single step and work-around I've had to use to get this far. sorry :( | 15:42 |
| smb | jodh, Just makes it a bit hard to get the same experience... :/ | 15:44 |
| rtg | apw, have you done a saucy live install lately ? | 16:14 |
| apw | rtg, lately, not in the last two weeks no, i did one just before sprint | 16:15 |
| apw | rtg, and i did a server install like yesterday on armhf ... | 16:15 |
| apw | rtg, if it would be useful i can do a VM one now | 16:15 |
| rtg | apw, I checked that I wanted updates installed from the net during installtion, but on first boot there were like 100 packages that needed updating. | 16:15 |
| apw | rtg, that checkbox is "download updates while installing" | 16:16 |
| apw | it doesn't install them i don't believe | 16:16 |
| rtg | apw, just caches them ? | 16:16 |
| apw | yeah i think that is right ... i seem to remember being caught out by the same | 16:16 |
| apw | when discussing how a kernel in -updates would avoid something something | 16:17 |
| rtg | huh, I'm not convinced of the usefulness of that "feature" | 16:17 |
| apw | no me either | 16:17 |
| rtg | apw, though one could argue that if the live CD kernel booted, then you'd at least want that one installed. | 16:18 |
| apw | heh yeah you always want the first one | 16:18 |
| arges | smb: https://merges.ubuntu.com/libv/libvirt/REPORT | 16:30 |
| rtg | apw, we're not building an alternate install for saucy anymore, right ? | 16:37 |
| apw | we still build alternates yes, d-i images | 16:38 |
| rtg | apw, where do they live on cdimage.ubuntu.com ? looks like we're only doing server and live | 16:39 |
| apw | is not the server image the alternate installer ? | 16:39 |
| rtg | apw, the alternate used to include desktop whereas the server does not | 16:40 |
| apw | oh then ... no :) | 16:40 |
| rtg | not that I'm really caring. just curious | 16:40 |
| smb | Yeah I think that got dropped. Now that the desktop supports LVM... | 16:41 |
| infinity | zequence: Almost certainly too late to figure out what that would mean and how we'd do it, yeah. | 16:44 |
| infinity | rtg: No desktop alternates, but you can install desktop fine from a d-i netboot or a server CD (just that you have to hit the interwebs for the packages). | 16:44 |
| rtg | infinity, my get dailies script was complaining about alternates no longer existing, which is what caught my attention | 16:45 |
| smb | infinity, Ni, err I mean Xen MRE, maybe, please? | 16:46 |
| infinity | rtg: Ahh. We dropped them in Q, I think, your script's been out of date for a while. ;) | 16:46 |
| rtg | infinity, could be.... | 16:46 |
| infinity | smb: Did you get someone to sponsor the uploads? | 16:47 |
| smb | infinity, No, I am trying to get you to | 16:47 |
| smb | infinity, apw Always runs faster than lightning when I mention those three letters | 16:48 |
| infinity | Heh. | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | infinity, what are you doing here ! | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | off to bed with you ! | 16:51 |
| infinity | ogra_: I had a meeting this morning. Blame ogasawara. | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | oh, evil girl ! | 16:51 |
| ogasawara | Muahahah :) | 16:52 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:52 |
| smb | One never knows when infinity sleeps... or which timezone he actually is in... :-P | 16:53 |
| infinity | smb: Alright, if you can't talk Andy into sponsoring it for you, bug me on the weekend, and I'll see about doing a one-shot sponsor-and-SRU-review. Just need to set aside some time to do so. | 16:54 |
| smb | infinity, Usually I would want to avoid bugging people anywhere around weekends, but then I am getting slightly desperate with that, so will try | 17:08 |
| infinity | smb: Well, I'm happy to do "community" work on weekends occasionally, and Xen currently sits on a bit of a fence there. | 17:08 |
| infinity | I'm still trying to figure out who I need to convince to make it a first-class citizen in everything we do. | 17:09 |
| smb | Yeah that might be a difficult task... | 17:10 |
| xequence | infinity: I was away for a while, in case you answered. I was asking about SRU of lowlatency for the LTS. Is it too late to do that? | 17:12 |
| apw | smb, am i expecting to see crash on the merges list again ? | 17:13 |
| smb | apw, For saucy you might as upstream did a 7.x.x | 17:13 |
| smb | Actually I had been looking and we had issues with hardening options | 17:14 |
| apw | infinity, the issue with xen-4.3 is the xapi stuff whcih all went wrong last time we did xen | 17:14 |
| smb | apw, Oh, I asked him about the other Xen | 17:14 |
| apw | there is anohter xen | 17:14 |
| infinity | xequence: 10:44 < infinity> zequence: Almost certainly too late to figure out what that would mean and how we'd do it, yeah. | 17:15 |
| smb | Yeah the stable MREs for P, Q and R | 17:15 |
| apw | oh ok | 17:15 |
| apw | those i don't think i ahve seen anyhow | 17:16 |
| smb | infinity, So yeah actually for 4.3 there is this xen-api madness. They got rdepends against xen but are not even buildable right now | 17:16 |
| apw | or if i have i have painfully blmked them | 17:16 |
| smb | apw, I tried not to "overload" you with xen | 17:16 |
| apw | heh | 17:16 |
| * rtg -> lunch | 17:25 | |
| xequence | infinity: Ok. I'd like to do one for 12.04.4 though. How long before would it be good to bother you on that? | 17:26 |
| * henrix -> EOD (SIGBOOSE) | 17:30 | |
| infinity | xequence: Sometime after next week. | 17:34 |
| infinity | xequence: Given that you don't actually put lowlatency on your install images (or am I misremembering?), this isn't something that needs to be tied to a point release, really. | 17:34 |
| infinity | xequence: You could jam an lts-raring kernel in precise and just socialize the idea that it's there for people who want to use it. | 17:35 |
| infinity | xequence: Assuming you commit to the same cadence as the Canonical SRU people (as you've done for your P/Q/R rebases), I'd be alright with letting that in. | 17:35 |
| xequence | infinity: We do have lowlatency on the images, so therefore it would be nice to get it on there too. But, I'm not at all against getting it there non timely as well | 17:45 |
| xequence | Ah, but you meant like using a PPA | 17:46 |
| infinity | xequence: Right, let's talk about it after .3 is out the door, then. | 17:46 |
| infinity | xequence: No, no. I don't mean a PPA. I mean in the archive proper. | 17:47 |
| xequence | infinity: cool | 17:47 |
| xequence | alright | 17:47 |
| * apw relocates away from his mic | 17:47 | |
| * smb relocates away from work | 17:53 | |
| * apw goes make food | 18:56 | |
| jjohansen | rtg: do we file a support ticket to get tyhicks access to zinc and the kernel build machines (tangerine, ...)? | 19:20 |
| rtg | jjohansen, yes, he needs to be in the LDAP group | 19:25 |
| jjohansen | rtg: okay thanks | 19:25 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: should I open it or have you already started? | 19:30 |
| jjohansen | tyhicks: feel free to open it, I have not started it yet | 19:30 |
| tyhicks | will do | 19:31 |
| * rtg -> EOD | 20:13 | |
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