[07:26] <DanChapman> Good morning all :-)
[07:27] <elfy> bit grey for good - but good morning DanChapman :)
[07:28] <DanChapman> :-)
[07:29] <smartboyhw> Hey DanChapman
[12:52] <balloons> hey DanChapman smartboyhw
[12:52] <smartboyhw> balloons, heya
[12:52] <smartboyhw> That's early:P
[12:52] <balloons> I thought I'd greet you today :-)
[12:53] <smartboyhw> balloons, wow, thanks:)
[13:19] <DanChapman> balloons, hey mate
[13:23] <balloons> only 2 days left this week.. time keeps flying by
[13:24] <smartboyhw> balloons, yeah...
[13:44] <DanChapman> balloons, nice big blue spike for the ubuntu apps since the merge yesterday :-)
[13:44] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, what merge?
[13:45] <balloons> DanChapman, blue is good :-)
[13:45] <DanChapman> smartboyhw, the new gedit test
[13:45] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, congratulations!
[13:53] <DanChapman> balloons, I was having a think about an emulator for Gtk apps, but this seems quite tricky to do. What about a Gtk test template with some functions for setting up say open dialog, save dialog, as these are the same across apps just different window names.. tell you what i will mock one up and get you to take a look
[13:54] <balloons> DanChapman, I completely agree on the difficultly of making an emulator. But I understand some of the code between the apps seems like it could be shared, etc.. It's hard
[13:54] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, when did you join the QA team?
[13:55] <DanChapman> smartboyhw, err what ever date last summit was. Why's that?
[13:56] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, you mean, last real UDS or vUDS-1306?
[13:56] <DanChapman> balloons, well I will give it a go and see what turns out from it
[13:56] <DanChapman> vUDS-13.06
[13:56] <smartboyhw> DanChapman, wow, you have progressed so much within 2 months:)
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses
[14:56] <balloons> so DanChapman smartboyhw SergioMeneses any specific topics you want covered @ vUDS?
[14:57] <smartboyhw> balloons, um let me think, autopilot, manual testing, ISO testing, Touch testing, and others;P
[14:57] <DanChapman> balloons, ^^ lol
[14:58] <DanChapman> balloons, have you had any ideas?
[15:06] <balloons> DanChapman, :-) yes, I'm going to be putting them together today
[15:06] <balloons> I'll send them round the the list once completed
[15:09] <knome> stgraber, can you deal me qa tracker admin rights; balloons ACK's
[15:10] <stgraber> knome: why do you need admin rights?
[15:11] <stgraber> (giving admin rights is done by either adding someone to the Ubuntu Release team or to the commiter team for the QATracker code, so I like to have a reason ;))
[15:11] <SergioMeneses> balloons, smartboyhw morning!
[15:12] <knome> stgraber, there are certain aspects that keep me from working with the xubuntu tests as wanted - for example editing a product makes it disappear - and generally as balloons said, it won't hurt to have another admin - i can work as the liaison for flavors
[15:12] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I want to talk about laptop-testing team but i dont know if we're going to need an space on the vUDS
[15:12] <SergioMeneses> or what do you say?
[15:13] <balloons> SergioMeneses, hmm.. what did you want to talk about -- plans, etc? I think it is a good idea for a session, or add to a session
[15:13] <stgraber> knome: ok, done
[15:13] <knome> stgraber, thank you
[15:13] <SergioMeneses> yeah!... and about the current status, goals and anything
[15:13]  * knome continues chairing the xubuntu community meeting
[15:14] <smartboyhw> knome, so you really have to expect me to ping you a LOT in the future:P
[15:14] <SergioMeneses> but maybe you have to contact SergioZanchetta... the team leader
[15:14] <SergioMeneses> btw hi phillw I've read your messages! I'll give you an answer to night :)
[15:14] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, I always have an impression that SergioZanchetta is a bit inactive:P
[15:14] <SergioMeneses> a lot of community things these days
[15:14] <balloons> SergioMeneses, I'll make it if you can make the session. we'll ping the other sergio and any else interested
[15:15] <smartboyhw> knome, so, can you tell the -quality list that you are the liaison now plz?
[15:15] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sounds good! let me think about the session and I'll send you an email, what do you say?
[15:15] <balloons> SergioMeneses, sure thing
[15:15] <balloons> thanks for the idea ;-)
[15:15] <knome> smartboyhw, let me answer you in a sec, we have a meeting
[15:17] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I think he has a lot of things to do, like real life
[15:17] <SergioMeneses> balloons, no problem!
[15:17] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, oh:(
[15:18]  * smartboyhw can take part in Laptop testing if you guys wish
[15:18] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I think phillw want a session about Lubuntu
[15:18] <smartboyhw> After all, my main work is done in a notebook..
[15:18] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, you're very welcome :D
[15:18] <balloons> a qa flavors session, is there interest?
[15:18] <smartboyhw> +1
[15:18] <smartboyhw> And knome must join.
[15:18] <smartboyhw> And every QA flavour lead
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> balloons, of course! +1k
[15:19] <balloons> smartboyhw, they must eh? :-)
[15:19] <smartboyhw> balloons, ofc
[15:19] <knome> balloons, theoretically yes
[15:19] <smartboyhw> I and xequence will probably join on behalf of Studio
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> what does ofc mean?
[15:19] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, of course:P
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> aaaah
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, you're teaching me so much
[15:19] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, you are teaching me so much
[15:20] <SergioMeneses> :)
[15:21] <knome> smartboyhw, i'm not sure if a mail to the list is needed
[15:21] <knome> smartboyhw, i can try to work as much for flavors as needed (and you'll always catch me if you ping me - i'll check the awaylog when i'm back)
[15:22] <smartboyhw> knome, I think it's needed
[15:22] <knome> smartboyhw, because?
[15:22] <smartboyhw> knome, because some flavours don't know you:P
[15:22] <knome> smartboyhw, you usually just want to catch the first admin available
[15:23] <knome> smartboyhw, ask in the channel, and you willl
[15:23] <knome> *will
[15:23] <knome> besides, i'm not even following the -qa list. so if people asked stuff there... i wouldn't be able to deliver.
[15:24] <knome> i mean, sure, if you think a mail is needed... then i could make balloons send one ;)
[15:24] <knome> but the mail should make it clear that i'm not following the list
[15:25] <SergioMeneses> we are in the week5 /o\
[15:30] <smartboyhw> :)
[16:04] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, so, if you want me to help you and Letozaf_ and Zanchetta, just find me;)
[16:49] <DanChapman> balloons, hey you got a minute?
[17:04] <balloons> DanChapman, shoot
[17:07] <DanChapman> balloons, can you take a look at lp:~dpniel/+junk/gtktemplate its an idea for a gtk template
[17:08] <DanChapman> its basic atm and basically loads the different names for the dialogs from a config file so we can reuse the functions across tests
[17:08] <DanChapman> just thought i should get your thoughts before proceeding anymore
[17:11] <SergioMeneses> lunchtime
[17:17] <balloons> DanChapman, hmm
[17:18] <balloons> the stuff in the emulator is the type of stuff that would go in an emulator for the app itself, heh
[17:19] <balloons> DanChapman, I would sit on this for a little bit, and let's ask the advice of the autopilot team
[17:25] <DanChapman> balloons, ok cool. Who is best to speak to about it?
[17:26] <balloons> we'll start with thomi
[17:26] <balloons> I'd pick pitti's brain too
[17:29] <fginther> balloons, did we come to a conclusion on ubuntu-calculator-app? is it ready to have the jenkins UI tests enabled?
[17:30] <DanChapman> ok then. sounds good
[17:32] <balloons> fginther, we'd like to enable it.. the next commit should fix the current un-passing tests
[17:36] <fginther> balloons, cool, it's enabled now
[17:36] <balloons> fginther, I was looking at terminal as well, one test still failing on it tho ;-(
[17:38] <fginther> balloons, if it would help, we can enable these tests for the -ci jobs to provide the feedback, but leave the -autolanding jobs without
[17:38] <fginther> balloons, for the projects that are close
[17:40] <balloons> fginther, ohh, well I would say you could do that for every project then
[17:40] <balloons> so you'd give a fail as part of the message but would land it anyway even if it failed yes?
[17:42] <fginther> balloons, almost, the autolanding job just wouldn't run that step
[17:45] <balloons> right right.. yea, I would give a +1 to that
[22:18] <balloons> fginther, if you could just make sure jenkins pushes this so the test in the morning passes, that would be excellent :-) https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix-autopilot-tests/+merge/180430
[22:38] <phillw> balloons: reading scroll back... I usually do a session for lubuntu, let me know what sort of thing you have in mind (email is the best, as I don't then lose it :D )
[22:39] <phillw> balloons: also: (23:48:23) phillw: balloons: as and when you get chance, can you review the two 'lx' tests in the merge request? lxkeymap and lxsession-edit. As for making persistance a separate test case? That gets a big +1 from me, casper is a funny beast at the best of times and having it on it's own area does make a lot of sense to me :)
[22:40] <phillw> (23:50:04) balloons: heard.. dinner time now.. I'll review manual tests tomorrow ;-)