| === space__ is now known as Space | ||
| === Trixar_zb is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| inetpro | Guten Morgen | 05:30 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi Squirm et al | 05:36 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 05:40 |
| Kilos | ohi Trixar_za | 05:41 |
| Trixar_za | I need a new Linux home for a bit. Still looking around, but it'll probably be Arch if I take the time to configure it. I have to wait for my next data bundle too. Don't want to waste it. Makes me wish I didn't try ArchBash first :/ | 05:43 |
| Kilos | why you need a new home?? | 05:44 |
| Kilos | want more to do or what | 05:44 |
| Kilos | isnt arch lotsa work | 05:45 |
| Trixar_za | My SliTaz install broke and the latest unstable is a mess, which means if I want a proper one I'll probably have to redesign it from scratch and make it binary compatible with SliTaz | 05:45 |
| Kilos | oh my | 05:45 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, I figure I'll need 2-3 days to configure and install Arch to how I would like it to be | 05:45 |
| Kilos | you shoulda looked at remastersys | 05:46 |
| Kilos | before you broke it | 05:46 |
| Kilos | i can run my working os from dvd or reinstall | 05:46 |
| Kilos | not a problem to break system anymore. can reinstall and update/upgrade with under 10m data | 05:48 |
| Trixar_za | Isn't remastersys just for Ubuntu? | 05:49 |
| Kilos | i think it will work on other linux systems especially debian | 05:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google remastersys for linux | 05:50 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Remastersys" http://www.remastersys.com/ :: "Remastersys and AVLinux Forum - Index" http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php :: "[debian] Testing linux-mint-installer with remastersys builded distro" http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=2921.0 :: "How To Install Remastersys - MyWikidot" http://my-wd-local.wikidot.com/otherapp:how-to-install- | 05:50 |
| Maaz | remastersys :: "Linux Mint Forums • View topic - Remastersys owner is pissed off ..." h… | 05:50 |
| Kilos | you got the knowledge get it when you can and make it work for you | 05:51 |
| Kilos | also look at ttp://www.maketecheasier.com/6-tools-t ... 2010/04/08 | 05:59 |
| Kilos | http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-bui ... nux-distro | 05:59 |
| Squirm | hey | 05:59 |
| Squirm | Trixar_za: I know about the music. I just need to find some non copyright stuff | 05:59 |
| Trixar_za | Maybe something like http://incompetech.com/music/ | 06:00 |
| Trixar_za | I may or may not be collecting them | 06:00 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 06:00 |
| Kilos | really sad the remastersys owner gave up | 06:00 |
| Kilos | lets hope the fork is as good | 06:01 |
| Trixar_za | I personally like http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100844 | 06:03 |
| Trixar_za | I also found http://freemusicforvideos.com/ | 06:10 |
| Squirm | Trixar_za: i just found that song went well with the video :P | 06:10 |
| Trixar_za | Cipher? | 06:11 |
| Squirm | The one I had on the video | 06:13 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah, it does kind of fit | 06:13 |
| Squirm | will definitely look through that site though | 06:14 |
| Squirm | haven't had coffee yet and I need to work | 06:28 |
| Squirm | Maaz: cofee on | 06:28 |
| Maaz | Squirm: Huh? | 06:28 |
| Squirm | Maaz: coffee on | 06:28 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 06:28 | |
| Squirm | Maaz: large | 06:28 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Squirm | 06:28 |
| Squirm | Maaz: larger | 06:28 |
| Maaz | inna bucket for you Squirm | 06:28 |
| Squirm | :D | 06:28 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 06:28 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Yessir | 06:28 |
| Kilos | Maaz, with milk | 06:29 |
| Maaz | Yay Kilos You aren't one of those skinny guys that needs to drink black coffee to cast a shadow | 06:29 |
| Trixar_za | Maaz: coffee please | 06:31 |
| Maaz | Trixar_za: Yessir | 06:31 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Squirm, Kilos and Trixar_za! | 06:32 |
| Trixar_za | Thanks Maaz | 06:32 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 06:32 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 06:32 |
| Squirm | Maaz: botsnack | 06:51 |
| Maaz | Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp | 06:51 |
| * Squirm goes and makes real coffee | 06:51 | |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:18 |
| Squirm | ...mmh | 07:19 |
| Squirm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swEFEqyLRf8&feature=c4-overview&list=UU8rqJnQugTGz6U5eXQktRDw | 07:21 |
| Squirm | flying via a video stream | 07:21 |
| Squirm | hmm, I could actually stream my flying live to YouTube | 07:22 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | hi superfly | 07:37 |
| Kilos | !/usr/bin/python | 07:45 |
| Kilos | Filename : helloworld.py | 07:45 |
| Kilos | print 'Hello World' | 07:45 |
| Kilos | what is the invalid syntax there when using idle? | 07:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning | 08:06 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 08:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: use slexy :P | 08:06 |
| Kilos | for such a short thing too? | 08:07 |
| Kilos | methunk only if more than 5 lines | 08:07 |
| Kilos | but i will | 08:07 |
| Kilos | sorry for the spam | 08:08 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 08:11 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 08:11 |
| Kilos | you gonna learn python with us? | 08:11 |
| psyatw | hmm, maybe yes | 08:11 |
| psyatw | but I would really like to learn oracle and j2ee | 08:12 |
| Kilos | whew | 08:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the first and the 2nd lines are wrong | 08:46 |
| Kilos | wrong in what way sir? | 08:47 |
| inetpro | both lines need a hash (#) in front | 08:47 |
| Kilos | i have tried it with the hash as well | 08:47 |
| inetpro | 1st line as part of the shebang and the 2nd line as the start of a comment line | 08:47 |
| psyatw | hi inetpro | 08:48 |
| Kilos | oooo you even know about shebang | 08:48 |
| Kilos | dark horse you | 08:48 |
| inetpro | hi psyatw | 08:48 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide | 08:51 |
| Cantide | hello :) | 08:52 |
| charl | good morning | 09:11 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 09:11 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 09:11 | |
| charl | hi Cantide | 09:11 |
| charl | hi psyatw, Kilos, inetpro | 09:11 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 09:12 |
| Cantide | hey charl '-'/ | 09:12 |
| psyatw | hi charl | 09:13 |
| psyatw | hoi Cantide :) | 09:13 |
| Cantide | psyatw, :) | 09:13 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 09:15 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 09:40 |
| Maaz | charl: Sure | 09:40 |
| magespawn | good morning | 09:44 |
| Kilos | hi there magespawn \ | 09:44 |
| * ThatGraemeGuy pokes superfly with a stick | 09:45 | |
| magespawn | i see you have started on the pytho Kilos | 09:46 |
| magespawn | python | 09:46 |
| magespawn | as well | 09:46 |
| Kilos | yeah i need a headstart because i get errors no one else does | 09:46 |
| magespawn | did you get that one to run okay? | 09:48 |
| Kilos | nope | 09:48 |
| Kilos | syntax errors | 09:48 |
| magespawn | slexy link | 09:48 |
| Kilos | lemme just get it going again and ill show ya | 09:49 |
| magespawn | cool beans | 09:50 |
| Cantide | python? like this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36318710/1000573_626302854068094_599193947_n.jpg | 09:50 |
| Cantide | amidoingitrite? | 09:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg | 09:51 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20ZI27dtZ | 09:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uh | 09:54 |
| Kilos | thats running in cli after the idle bit and saving as helloworld.py | 09:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that makes no sense :-o | 09:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://slexy.org/view/s202FWPMHK | 09:55 |
| Kilos | ai! whats the diffs | 09:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | wait are you running that in idle? | 09:56 |
| Kilos | yours works | 09:56 |
| magespawn | good question | 09:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or just a bash shell? | 09:56 |
| magespawn | that is a seriously cool cake | 09:56 |
| Kilos | in idle it did the first 3 lines then saved then i ran the command in cli | 09:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what's the output of 'cat helloworld.py' ? | 09:57 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2KRjgS8UK | 09:59 |
| Kilos | it stutters and shows it twice? | 10:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nee man | 10:00 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 10:00 |
| inetpro | ai! | 10:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you've got too much nonsense in there, just use a plain editor | 10:00 |
| Kilos | plain editor? | 10:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://slexy.org/view/s2oxt6Eaj1 | 10:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's all that ought to be in there | 10:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what flavour of ubuntu do you use? | 10:01 |
| Kilos | 12.04 | 10:03 |
| Kilos | unity | 10:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | use gedit | 10:03 |
| Kilos | oh | 10:03 |
| Kilos | thought you had to use vim or so | 10:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no, you can use any text editor you're comfortable with | 10:03 |
| Cantide | gedit <3 | 10:04 |
| Kilos | vim is too much to learn so i tried idle | 10:04 |
| Kilos | now i gotta first delete the others methinks | 10:05 |
| Kilos | yay that worked ty, but what went wrong before ? | 10:09 |
| Kilos | all that about syntax error | 10:10 |
| Kilos | grrr | 10:10 |
| * Kilos blames magespawn | 10:14 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: http://vim-adventures.com/ | 10:15 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, i sukkel with vim | 10:15 |
| Kilos | gedit is good for me if it can do all the programming stuff with python | 10:16 |
| Kilos | but am getting more data tonight then ill go try that game | 10:19 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 10:19 |
| Kilos | hey you gotta learn python | 10:20 |
| Xethron | heya Kilos | 10:20 |
| * magespawn smacks Kilos with a large wet feather | 10:35 | |
| Kilos | rofl | 10:35 |
| Kilos | gedit works fine and so much simpler | 10:35 |
| Cantide | yeah, i use gedit for a lot of things | 10:36 |
| Cantide | especially php | 10:36 |
| Cantide | <3 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | i wonder why they suggest using idle vim and kate | 10:36 |
| magespawn | kate is default on kde | 10:36 |
| Cantide | hardcore users maybe :p | 10:36 |
| Kilos | isnt kate the kde equivalent of gedit | 10:37 |
| Cantide | idk, i've not used KDE :) | 10:37 |
| Kilos | kde is lekker man | 10:37 |
| Cantide | not for me :) | 10:37 |
| Kilos | those x ones arent lekker | 10:38 |
| Cantide | x? as in x.org? | 10:38 |
| Cantide | but kde uses x.. | 10:38 |
| * Cantide is confused | 10:38 | |
| Kilos | xubuntu and them | 10:38 |
| magespawn | anty text editor that can save the file with a .py extension should be fine | 10:38 |
| Cantide | ah | 10:38 |
| Cantide | you mean xfce... | 10:38 |
| Kilos | ya that | 10:38 |
| Cantide | i don't like it either :p | 10:38 |
| magespawn | and xkcd, thats the best | 10:39 |
| Cantide | hahaha | 10:39 |
| Cantide | that i like :) | 10:39 |
| Kilos | but kde rocks once you put your mind to give it a fair try | 10:39 |
| magespawn | gotta go get fish, later all | 10:39 |
| Cantide | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png | 10:39 |
| Kilos | later magespawn | 10:39 |
| Cantide | see ya~ | 10:40 |
| Kilos | whole morning gone and i just got to hello world | 10:40 |
| Kilos | sigh | 10:40 |
| Cantide | :) | 10:40 |
| Cantide | at least you got somewhere | 10:40 |
| Kilos | can you use vim? | 10:40 |
| Kilos | whew | 10:40 |
| Kilos | thats hard work | 10:41 |
| Kilos | aw i didnt see neelsie | 10:48 |
| Cantide | i have never tried vim | 10:50 |
| Cantide | i've used vi quite a bit via ssh | 10:50 |
| Cantide | but i use gedit whenever possible :) | 10:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, vim game is <reply> http://vim-adventures.com/ | 10:57 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Got it | 10:57 |
| Cantide | that game looks nice :0 | 11:08 |
| magespawn | afternoon | 11:52 |
| Kilos | yo magespawn | 11:52 |
| magespawn | one of the other things to read regarding python is pep8 | 11:53 |
| === Cantide is now known as CantiAFK | ||
| Kilos | whew dfont add more stuff now | 11:54 |
| Kilos | dont | 11:54 |
| magespawn | http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ | 11:54 |
| magespawn | this is just a best practices guide | 11:54 |
| Kilos | lol best practise is get a pro to do it for you | 11:55 |
| magespawn | somebody like superfly | 11:55 |
| Kilos | from page 11 it gets heavy trying to remember all that stuff | 11:56 |
| Kilos | ya him | 11:56 |
| magespawn | i can't remeber identation or spaces, and if spaces how many | 11:56 |
| Kilos | constants and numbers and strings | 11:56 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:57 |
| superfly | that's why you use pep8 | 11:58 |
| magespawn | indeed | 12:01 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:01 |
| magespawn | at least until it becomes 2nd nature | 12:01 |
| Kilos | A style guide is about consistency. Consistency with this style guide is important. Consistency within a project is more important. Consistency within one module or function is most important. | 12:04 |
| Kilos | But most importantly: know when to be inconsistent | 12:04 |
| Kilos | sigh | 12:04 |
| magespawn | lol @ Kilos | 12:16 |
| Kilos | i should stick to hardware sorting. its not in english thats not understandable | 12:19 |
| Kilos | foo | 12:19 |
| Vince-0 | hii | 12:21 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 12:22 |
| magespawn | that sort of thing is a place holder for anything you actually want to type | 12:48 |
| Kilos | this is the reason geeks get probs with other peeps at school | 12:48 |
| Kilos | they cant understand them | 12:49 |
| Kilos | like a different breed on been | 12:50 |
| Kilos | bean | 12:50 |
| magespawn | that could be | 12:50 |
| === CantiAFK is now known as Cantide | ||
| Kilos | hmm... i wonder if i can teach QA to braai a steak and shout when its ready | 14:56 |
| Kilos | oh my vince must be a vegetarian | 14:57 |
| Cantide | lol | 15:00 |
| Kilos | most of the guys are on the way home and graeme still has 40 mins | 15:20 |
| Kilos | and who knows with magespawn | 15:20 |
| magespawn | just about to leave now | 15:24 |
| Cantide | home? i have been home all day :) | 15:25 |
| Kilos | go safe magespawn | 15:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz, start a game of werewolf | 15:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: You have started a game of Werewolf. Everybody has 60 seconds to join the game. | 15:27 |
| Kilos | eat cfantide | 15:27 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, eat Cantide | 15:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 15:27 |
| Maaz | Not enough players. Try again later. | 15:28 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:28 |
| Cantide | hahaha | 15:28 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Kilos | wb Trixar_za | 15:30 |
| Trixar_za | Thanks Kilos | 15:31 |
| charl | whow | 15:32 |
| charl | just watched the ubuntu edge video | 15:32 |
| Kilos | and? | 15:33 |
| charl | amazing | 15:33 |
| Trixar_za | I'm actually downloading Claws Mail for Windows so I can check my email... | 15:33 |
| charl | the crowdfunding doesn't look too good though | 15:33 |
| Kilos | thats the phone? | 15:33 |
| Trixar_za | I just need to bite the bullet and install Arch | 15:34 |
| charl | yeah that's the hardware part | 15:34 |
| Kilos | eish Trixar_za | 15:34 |
| Kilos | why arch? | 15:34 |
| Kilos | size or what? | 15:35 |
| charl | only 7 days left to raise $20K | 15:35 |
| Trixar_za | Mostly what you learn while installing it. I'm not mad enough to try gentoo yet | 15:35 |
| charl | probably not gonna happen | 15:35 |
| Kilos | there was a chick here a while back that used arch | 15:35 |
| Trixar_za | And yeah, the size is also a factor. My old PC can't run the new bling-bling Linuxes | 15:35 |
| Kilos | look at tinycorelinux | 15:36 |
| Kilos | oh you got 3g | 15:36 |
| Kilos | that was the only prob i had with it | 15:36 |
| Kilos | with adsl it will rocks methinks | 15:36 |
| Trixar_za | I tried, but most of the tinycore guys are Frugal mad idiots with a holier than thou mentality | 15:37 |
| Kilos | whole os was 66m | 15:37 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 15:37 |
| Kilos | yeah i only found one helpful guy | 15:37 |
| charl | if you need lightweight why not just go lubuntu | 15:38 |
| charl | unless if you say you just want to do it for the lols then arch is great | 15:38 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:38 |
| Kilos | i didnt like it | 15:38 |
| charl | what was wrong with it? | 15:39 |
| charl | (i should add, i don't use it myself) | 15:39 |
| Kilos | he does slitaz but it crashed now | 15:39 |
| Kilos | Trixar_za, why not install slitaz again | 15:40 |
| Trixar_za | Because they mad a mess of the current version | 15:41 |
| Trixar_za | made* | 15:41 |
| Kilos | or get data and upgrade to ubuntu | 15:41 |
| Trixar_za | And I'll probably have to build my own version before I can use it again | 15:41 |
| Kilos | oh you leaving them | 15:42 |
| Kilos | oh the pc dont like ubuntu | 15:44 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 15:44 |
| Kilos | what help did you need with tinycore | 15:45 |
| Trixar_za | Pretty much sakis3g support - amongst other things. But they want to run it in RAM because starting it in ram is clean everytime | 15:48 |
| Trixar_za | Not to mention huge if you have a lot of packages | 15:48 |
| Trixar_za | Dumbasses | 15:48 |
| Kilos | oh i got the install iso | 15:49 |
| Kilos | but it is very different from debian | 15:50 |
| Kilos | woulda been fine with adsl | 15:50 |
| Kilos | i wonder if it will work in a wifi router with the 3g plugged into the router | 15:52 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 15:52 |
| Trixar_za | I'm one of those weird people that install Windows versions of stuff so I can have access to my old configuration files | 16:06 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:06 |
| Trixar_za | I even imported my firefox bookmarks post crash using the backed up json file | 16:08 |
| Kilos | what caused the crash? | 16:09 |
| Trixar_za | Probably something related to Xorg | 16:13 |
| Kilos | eish | 16:13 |
| Kilos | hi smile hows you? | 16:53 |
| smile | good :D | 16:54 |
| smile | how about you | 16:54 |
| smile | ;) | 16:54 |
| Kilos | good ty. everything is working except idle | 16:54 |
| Kilos | but gedit is doing the job so far | 16:55 |
| magespawn | good evening | 16:59 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 16:59 |
| magespawn | hey hey | 17:00 |
| magespawn | idle not working? | 17:00 |
| Kilos | weird hey | 17:00 |
| magespawn | no error messages | 17:00 |
| Kilos | ya | 17:00 |
| smile | Kilos: gedit sucks :'( | 17:01 |
| Kilos | that same error | 17:01 |
| smile | but yeah, it works :/ | 17:01 |
| Kilos | na gedit works | 17:01 |
| smile | notepad++ is clearly much beter :) | 17:01 |
| magespawn | smile does that work on linux? | 17:01 |
| smile | magespawn: on Wine, it works very well. It could be ported very easily to native Linux, since it's not using so many Windows specific features (read: Windows API) | 17:02 |
| Kilos | i wont touch notepad unless im on win with no choice | 17:02 |
| magespawn | not the same notepad | 17:03 |
| magespawn | this one is much more Kilos | 17:03 |
| Kilos | once ive gone a bit further in python ill try idle again on the stuff that works | 17:03 |
| Kilos | ah | 17:04 |
| Kilos | but wine sucks too | 17:04 |
| magespawn | what version of python do you have? | 17:04 |
| Kilos | 2.7.3 i think | 17:04 |
| Kilos | wait i check | 17:04 |
| Kilos | ya thats it | 17:05 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 17:05 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 17:05 |
| Kilos | now i want some of the ibid code | 17:06 |
| Trixar_za | smile: I prefer Geany myself | 17:06 |
| Kilos | the part that makes coffee | 17:06 |
| magespawn | maybe the idle is looking for a different version | 17:06 |
| Kilos | they both outa the repos so i dunno | 17:07 |
| smile | Trixar_za: yeah :) it's obviously better | 17:07 |
| smile | will try to install it now :) | 17:07 |
| Trixar_za | I have to disable the message window, but otherwise it runs pretty well :P | 17:09 |
| Trixar_za | I have Notepad++ on Windows, but I don't like how it spaces python code | 17:10 |
| smile | which plugins do you have installed? :) | 17:10 |
| Trixar_za | I just used the basic install :P | 17:10 |
| smile | notepad++ works good for batch, XML, HTML etc ;) | 17:10 |
| smile | Trixar_za: that's boring :p | 17:11 |
| Trixar_za | It's just that it's python's tabs use spaces instead of tabulation | 17:11 |
| Trixar_za | I know it's against the Python standards, but I like tab | 17:11 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 17:11 |
| magespawn | i like the way it does html, never tried it python use idle or eric for that | 17:11 |
| Kilos | did your idle work with hello world magespawn ?? | 17:13 |
| magespawn | yes | 17:15 |
| Kilos | thats not fair | 17:15 |
| magespawn | i could not see anything wrong with your code either | 17:15 |
| Kilos | i have no idea why it said syntax error | 17:16 |
| Kilos | grrr | 17:16 |
| Kilos | everything first tests me | 17:16 |
| magespawn | just don't go and do a reinstall because of it | 17:17 |
| Kilos | ive had both drives with win blocking the bad sectors going all day | 17:17 |
| Kilos | hahaha\ | 17:17 |
| Kilos | so maybe thats a workaround | 17:18 |
| Kilos | maybe i must reinstall idle | 17:18 |
| smile | Trixar_za: me like tab too ;) | 17:18 |
| magespawn | here is some of my practice code http://db.tt/foBMNIkK | 17:19 |
| smile | yeah, py :D | 17:20 |
| Kilos | aw opera only shows size and modified but no names | 17:21 |
| Kilos | you been going at it long | 17:21 |
| magespawn | my mobile firefox does the same, more strangeness | 17:21 |
| Kilos | i removed firefox with last install to save data | 17:22 |
| Kilos | will install again now and see | 17:22 |
| Kilos | ai! 27.4m | 17:23 |
| Kilos | and they upgrade every coupla weeks | 17:23 |
| Kilos | firefox shows same way magespawn | 17:26 |
| Kilos | no names | 17:26 |
| magespawn | mine took a will to load them | 17:27 |
| Kilos | i see pages there now but still no names | 17:28 |
| magespawn | awhile maybe too | 17:28 |
| Kilos | your dropbox is sick | 17:29 |
| magespawn | maybe very be, had my files in it for too long | 17:31 |
| Kilos | aw now i forgot who i was in dropbox | 17:31 |
| Kilos | maybe they will show when signed in | 17:31 |
| Trixar_za | [17:29:58] [Trixar_za] Some extensions are memory hogs | 17:32 |
| Trixar_za | [17:30:28] [Trixar_za] Not to mention both the Firefox and extension authors don't take memory leak reports seriously | 17:32 |
| Trixar_za | I found the biggest memory hog to be Adblock Plus even if it doesn't have a list loaded | 17:32 |
| magespawn | never used that, just noscript | 17:35 |
| magespawn | Kilos i don't have another way to share at the moment, i am on the tablet | 17:38 |
| Kilos | np magespawn | 17:38 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you here? | 17:45 |
| Kilos | night guys . sleep tight | 17:50 |
| Kilos | nogga dag môre | 17:50 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| smile | bye :) | 18:32 |
| magespawn | inetpro ping | 19:07 |
| magespawn | Maaz tell maiatoday there is a new ubuntu server book available to the loco teams. | 19:15 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Righto, I'll tell maiatoday on freenode | 19:15 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:15 |
| yolandre | hi all. | 19:26 |
| yolandre | need some more advice.... what is the recommended swap area size? | 19:26 |
| Squirm | hi | 19:27 |
| Squirm | yolandre: how much ram do you have? | 19:27 |
| yolandre | 8gb | 19:27 |
| Squirm | maybe make it about 6gb then | 19:27 |
| yolandre | thanks! | 19:27 |
| Squirm | kind of works off a sliding scale. I think 4gb ram you should have 4gb swap, but I think the higher you go, the less swap | 19:28 |
| Squirm | hmm | 19:28 |
| Squirm | As a base minimum, it's highly recommended that the swap space should be equal to the amount of physical memory (RAM). | 19:28 |
| Squirm | "In reality, if you use hibernation you need what was outlined in the relevant paragraph above, otherwise you need as much swap space as your system will use - which actually may be very little in a modern hardware setup" | 19:29 |
| Squirm | swap is only used if you use up all your ram | 19:29 |
| Squirm | it's like virtual memory on windows, starts writing bits that are meant to go to ram, to your hdd | 19:29 |
| yolandre | got you there. actually opted for 4gb. should there be a future need i'll resize. only using ubuntu for private & basic computing. | 19:31 |
| superfly | recommended swap used to be twice RAM | 19:32 |
| Squirm | and you can increase your swap partition at a later point - if you have unused hdd space | 19:32 |
| superfly | nowadays with more than 4 gigs swap is almost unnecessary | 19:32 |
| superfly | yolandre: 4 should be more than enough | 19:32 |
| Squirm | yeah, I see that now | 19:32 |
| Squirm | and it actually makes sense | 19:32 |
| yolandre | should hope so... had to do with 1gb previously and 12.04 worked just fine. | 19:33 |
| Squirm | superfly: any idea when ubuntuforums came back up? | 19:33 |
| yolandre | the last time i manually create unix or linux partitions was about 10 years ago.... | 19:33 |
| yolandre | nope - none. i was on last noght when it dropped & noticed it on at about 02:00 this morning. was seeking help with a tricky installation and wanted to share the solution. | 19:34 |
| superfly | Squirm: not at all. forums are places where n00bs give each other bad advice. | 19:43 |
| yolandre | anyways, should someone need to know the topic can be read at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/234019. | 19:49 |
| yolandre | you asked me last night to post the solution? | 19:52 |
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