| MaynardWaters | one usb stick with both x86 and 64 linux kernals with shared /home | 03:51 |
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| MaynardWaters | can it be done? | 03:51 |
| smartboyhw | MaynardWaters, probably not. | 03:51 |
| smartboyhw | Why do you need both x86 and x64 kernels? You can just have a x64... | 03:52 |
| MaynardWaters | I have a thinkpad with only a 32 bit processor | 03:54 |
| MaynardWaters | id like to use it on that too | 03:54 |
| MaynardWaters | aww :( | 03:54 |
| smartboyhw | MaynardWaters, it actually IS possible, but I'm afraid a normal USB stick won't do, you'll have to buy those USBs which support multi-partitions (like those used for Windows 8 Enterprise USB-to-go ones) | 03:56 |
| Unit193 | You can repartition typical flash drives... | 04:09 |
| holstein | dual boot a 32bit and 64bit OS with shared data | 04:11 |
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| x-side | Hi there | 08:31 |
| cub | Hello | 08:32 |
| smartboyhw | Hello x-side | 08:34 |
| x-side | Got weird problems here | 08:38 |
| x-side | Apparently everyone else on the web have the perfect experience with focusrite scarlett 2i2 usb interface | 08:39 |
| x-side | Except for me | 08:39 |
| x-side | Its very confusing | 08:39 |
| x-side | It appears in the sound settings | 08:39 |
| x-side | Along with the built in one | 08:39 |
| x-side | However jack does not see it | 08:39 |
| x-side | And no sound is actually played back from either of them | 08:40 |
| xequence | x-side: Which jack control application are you using? qjackctl? | 08:40 |
| x-side | yup | 08:40 |
| x-side | Basically I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio here | 08:40 |
| xequence | x-side: And when you click the interface menu, you don't see your device? | 08:40 |
| x-side | And all the tools are the one that came with it | 08:40 |
| xequence | x-side: If pulseaudio sees your device, jack will see it too | 08:41 |
| cub | x-side, Ubuntu Stduio 13.04 or 12.04.2? | 08:41 |
| xequence | x-side: it would rather be the other way around for some devices | 08:41 |
| xequence | x-side: try this command: cat /proc/asound/cards | 08:41 |
| x-side | lts one. The 12.04 | 08:41 |
| xequence | x-side: paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com | 08:41 |
| x-side | It does see it | 08:42 |
| x-side | Pasted | 08:43 |
| xequence | x-side: Give us the link | 08:43 |
| x-side | Lol. Sorry. N00Bing here :D | 08:44 |
| x-side | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988158/ | 08:44 |
| xequence | /proc/asound/cards is alsa/linux keeping track of your audio devices | 08:44 |
| xequence | jack when used with alsa, uses alsa direcrtly | 08:44 |
| xequence | the desktop audio system - pulseaudio, is a bit different. It wont accept all alsa devices, and not in any form | 08:44 |
| xequence | you can read more about that here | 08:45 |
| xequence | !proaudio | 08:45 |
| ubottu | For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro | 08:45 |
| xequence | x-side: Ok, so your usb device is hw:1 in this case | 08:45 |
| x-side | Yup | 08:46 |
| x-side | But the jack does not see it | 08:46 |
| xequence | x-side: It's there, if you look in the right menu | 08:46 |
| xequence | x-side: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro#UbuntuStudio.2BAC8-ProAudioIntro.2BAC8-1204.Starting_Jack | 08:46 |
| xequence | x-side: make sure you click the right spot. Unfortunately, you dont see the button on that picture | 08:47 |
| x-side | I got plughw (0), hw (0) , dev/audio and dev/dsp | 08:47 |
| x-side | In the interface dropdown | 08:47 |
| xequence | x-side: Try the button next to that one | 08:47 |
| x-side | ooops | 08:47 |
| x-side | Thanks a bunch :) | 08:47 |
| xequence | np | 08:48 |
| cub | :) | 08:48 |
| x-side | that was quite stupid indeed :) | 08:48 |
| xequence | the gui can be a little confusing IMO | 08:48 |
| cub | yeah | 08:48 |
| x-side | Mhm | 08:48 |
| cub | Dropdown menu and then a "drop-right" menu as well. | 08:49 |
| x-side | I was wondering myself why is it require so much shaman dancing with torches | 08:49 |
| x-side | Generally | 08:49 |
| cub | It seems like sweet little usb card from what I gather in google | 08:50 |
| x-side | I mean I am a musician, working as a musician for over 10 years. I love playing around with computers, but I want to do it voluntarily not when I actually want to get work done | 08:50 |
| x-side | It is. Has some nice preamps. | 08:51 |
| cub | I use an Edirol UA25 myself | 08:51 |
| x-side | And came with a pretty decent headphones and a condenser mic | 08:51 |
| cub | What kind of mic? | 08:51 |
| x-side | http://eu.musicianuniversity.com/Recording/Focusrite-SCARLETT_CM25-Microphone.html | 08:52 |
| cub | Similar to the TSM mic I got with my card | 08:53 |
| x-side | recorded a thunderstorm out of the window with it recently. Sounds quite nice with no processing at all | 08:55 |
| x-side | https://soundcloud.com/x-side/prague-thunderstorm-captured | 08:55 |
| cub | Once you have set up Jack and the DAW you're going to use you shouldn't need to fiddle with the computer anymore. Anytime I have to fix something it's because I tried something out I shouldn't do. | 08:55 |
| cub | x-side, you're in Prague? | 08:55 |
| x-side | cub - great point | 08:55 |
| x-side | :) | 08:55 |
| x-side | I am | 08:55 |
| cub | I love that city. Used to go there for work a lot a couple of years ago | 08:56 |
| x-side | Moved here bout 4 years ago | 08:56 |
| xequence | x-side: a tip. Write "hw:USB" into the spot in the interface section that now says "hw:1" | 08:57 |
| x-side | Its a bit slow on the "actually happenning" department | 08:57 |
| x-side | :) | 08:57 |
| xequence | the output from cat /proc/asound/cards lets you see what the name of the device is | 08:57 |
| xequence | x-side: The order of the devices may change at each boot | 08:57 |
| xequence | x-side: Therefore, if you use the name instead, it will always start the correct device | 08:57 |
| x-side | hmm | 08:58 |
| x-side | got an error message when trying to start the jack | 08:58 |
| cub | x-side, I was lucky to be in Prague to watch The Wedding Present at the Lucerna Music bar in..hmm..2010. | 08:58 |
| x-side | D-BUS:jack server could'nt be started . sorry | 08:59 |
| x-side | cub - yeah, there is a lot of touring acts passing by. And some even stop by and do things. But locally - it's all about beer and weed sadly. Noone actually wants to go past that | 09:00 |
| x-side | Even though there are a lot of musicians here | 09:00 |
| x-side | maybe even too many for the size of the city | 09:01 |
| x-side | That is strictly IMHO of course | 09:01 |
| x-side | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988203/ meanwhile i get this error | 09:04 |
| x-side | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988203/ meanwhile i get this error | 09:04 |
| x-side | (sorry for double paste - cat disconnected the LAN cable ) | 09:05 |
| x-side | xequence - it switches to (default) somehow | 09:05 |
| xequence | x-side: Maybe you've also started jackd, or an old process is in the background | 09:07 |
| xequence | x-side: killall -9 jackdbus | 09:07 |
| xequence | killall -9 jackd | 09:07 |
| xequence | and also, restart pulseaudio to be sure | 09:07 |
| xequence | pulseaudio -k | 09:07 |
| xequence | then try again | 09:07 |
| xequence | x-side: And make sure any jack application is closed before you kill the jacks | 09:08 |
| xequence | qjackctl starts jackdbus by default | 09:08 |
| xequence | it should grab the card from pulseaudio without problems now | 09:09 |
| xequence | and also set up a bridge, so you can set pulseaudio to use jack instead of a card - routing all desktop audio to your jack device | 09:09 |
| x-side | Hmmm | 09:18 |
| x-side | Now qjactl greeted me with this | 09:19 |
| x-side | 11:17:56.029 Patchbay deactivated. | 09:19 |
| x-side | 11:17:56.057 Statistics reset. | 09:19 |
| x-side | 11:17:56.104 ALSA connection change. | 09:19 |
| x-side | 11:17:56.214 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus). | 09:19 |
| x-side | Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory | 09:19 |
| x-side | Cannot connect to server socket | 09:19 |
| x-side | jack server is not running or cannot be started | 09:19 |
| x-side | 11:17:56.231 ALSA connection graph change. | 09:19 |
| x-side | That is odd | 09:21 |
| x-side | Will reboot and try to kill the buit in card in biosl | 09:34 |
| x-side | Not sure if it will work but well | 09:34 |
| MaynardWaters | smartboyhw: i didn't know that usb sticks didn't support multi partitions? I am setting a 128G one up now... | 13:12 |
| smartboyhw | MaynardWaters, a 128GB one probably can :P | 13:14 |
| OvenWerks | MaynardWaters: They don't? | 13:14 |
| OvenWerks | There are some ways multi-partition usb sticks won't work.... windows for example | 13:15 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: the 32/64dual boot is exactly what Im shooting for | 13:17 |
| * smartboyhw just can't understand why one wants to run Ubuntu Studio on a USB stick (except for a live image) | 13:18 | |
| OvenWerks | smartboyhw: USB stick may equal USB drive | 13:18 |
| OvenWerks | I have run US on a USB drive lots of times very successfully | 13:19 |
| * OvenWerks has a 40G USB drive | 13:19 | |
| * smartboyhw only has two 16GB and a 4GB | 13:20 | |
| OvenWerks | I have also run US on a 32G memstick... it works, but is _much_ slower than just running a live ISO from the same stick | 13:20 |
| OvenWerks | memstick read is reasonably fast, though not max USB2.0 speed for sure, but memstick write on even the best ones is about 1/4 the read speed. | 13:21 |
| OvenWerks | Reading from compressed usb file systems is actually faster because the CPU can uncompress the data faster than the stick can be read. | 13:22 |
| OvenWerks | That is why the live ISO is faster. | 13:23 |
| OvenWerks | MaynardWaters: USB sticks normally come "floppy formatted" or cd style format. | 13:25 |
| OvenWerks | That is the FS is dropped right on /dev/sdc rather than /dev/sdc1. | 13:26 |
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| MaynardWaters | OvenWerks: "floppy formatted" when I use gpart and make it ext4 or fat32, doesn't that change it? | 19:34 |
| OvenWerks | It can. | 19:35 |
| OvenWerks | I have not had problems having more than one partition on a USB stick/drive | 19:35 |
| OvenWerks | I ran a swap on there for a long time | 19:36 |
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