[03:51] <MaynardWaters> one usb stick with both x86 and 64 linux kernals with shared /home
[03:51] <MaynardWaters> can it be done?
[03:51] <smartboyhw> MaynardWaters, probably not.
[03:52] <smartboyhw> Why do you need both x86 and x64 kernels? You can just have a x64...
[03:54] <MaynardWaters> I have a thinkpad with only a 32 bit processor
[03:54] <MaynardWaters> id like to use it on that too
[03:54] <MaynardWaters> aww :(
[03:56] <smartboyhw> MaynardWaters, it actually IS possible, but I'm afraid a normal USB stick won't do, you'll have to buy those USBs which support multi-partitions (like those used for Windows 8 Enterprise USB-to-go ones)
[04:09] <Unit193> You can repartition typical flash drives...
[04:11] <holstein> dual boot a 32bit and 64bit OS with shared data
[08:31] <x-side> Hi there
[08:32] <cub> Hello
[08:34] <smartboyhw> Hello x-side
[08:38] <x-side> Got weird problems here
[08:39] <x-side> Apparently everyone else on the web have the perfect experience with focusrite scarlett 2i2 usb interface
[08:39] <x-side> Except for me
[08:39] <x-side> Its very confusing
[08:39] <x-side> It appears in the sound settings
[08:39] <x-side> Along with the built in one
[08:39] <x-side> However jack does not see it
[08:40] <x-side> And no sound is actually played back from either of them
[08:40] <xequence> x-side: Which jack control application are you using? qjackctl?
[08:40] <x-side> yup
[08:40] <x-side> Basically I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio here
[08:40] <xequence> x-side: And when you click the interface menu, you don't see your device?
[08:40] <x-side> And all the tools are the one that came with it
[08:41] <xequence> x-side: If pulseaudio sees your device, jack will see it too
[08:41] <cub> x-side, Ubuntu Stduio 13.04 or 12.04.2?
[08:41] <xequence> x-side: it would rather be the other way around for some devices
[08:41] <xequence> x-side: try this command: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:41] <x-side> lts one. The 12.04
[08:41] <xequence> x-side: paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <x-side> It does see it
[08:43] <x-side> Pasted
[08:43] <xequence> x-side: Give us the link
[08:44] <x-side> Lol. Sorry. N00Bing here :D
[08:44] <x-side> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988158/
[08:44] <xequence> /proc/asound/cards is alsa/linux keeping track of your audio devices
[08:44] <xequence> jack when used with alsa, uses alsa direcrtly
[08:44] <xequence> the desktop audio system - pulseaudio, is a bit different. It wont accept all alsa devices, and not in any form
[08:45] <xequence> you can read more about that here
[08:45] <xequence> !proaudio
[08:45] <xequence> x-side: Ok, so your usb device is hw:1 in this case
[08:46] <x-side> Yup
[08:46] <x-side> But the jack does not see it
[08:46] <xequence> x-side: It's there, if you look in the right menu
[08:46] <xequence> x-side: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro#UbuntuStudio.2BAC8-ProAudioIntro.2BAC8-1204.Starting_Jack
[08:47] <xequence> x-side: make sure you click the right spot. Unfortunately, you dont see the button on that picture
[08:47] <x-side> I got plughw (0),  hw (0) , dev/audio and dev/dsp
[08:47] <x-side> In the interface dropdown
[08:47] <xequence> x-side: Try the button next to that one
[08:47] <x-side> ooops
[08:47] <x-side> Thanks a bunch :)
[08:48] <xequence> np
[08:48] <cub> :)
[08:48] <x-side> that was quite stupid indeed :)
[08:48] <xequence> the gui can be a little confusing IMO
[08:48] <cub> yeah
[08:48] <x-side> Mhm
[08:49] <cub> Dropdown menu and then a "drop-right" menu as well.
[08:49] <x-side> I was wondering myself why is it require so much shaman dancing with torches
[08:49] <x-side> Generally
[08:50] <cub> It seems like sweet little usb card from what I gather in google
[08:50] <x-side> I mean I am a musician, working as a musician for over 10 years. I love playing around with computers, but I want to do it voluntarily not when I actually want to get work done
[08:51] <x-side> It is. Has some nice preamps.
[08:51] <cub> I use an Edirol UA25 myself
[08:51] <x-side> And came with a pretty decent headphones and a condenser mic
[08:51] <cub> What kind of mic?
[08:52] <x-side> http://eu.musicianuniversity.com/Recording/Focusrite-SCARLETT_CM25-Microphone.html
[08:53] <cub> Similar to the TSM mic I got with my card
[08:55] <x-side> recorded a thunderstorm out of the window with it recently. Sounds quite nice with no processing at all
[08:55] <x-side> https://soundcloud.com/x-side/prague-thunderstorm-captured
[08:55] <cub> Once you have set up Jack and the DAW you're going to use you shouldn't need to fiddle with the computer anymore. Anytime I have to fix something it's because I tried something out I shouldn't do.
[08:55] <cub> x-side, you're in Prague?
[08:55] <x-side> cub - great point
[08:55] <x-side> :)
[08:55] <x-side> I am
[08:56] <cub> I love that city. Used to go there for work a lot a couple of years ago
[08:56] <x-side> Moved here bout 4 years ago
[08:57] <xequence> x-side: a tip. Write "hw:USB" into the spot in the interface section that now says "hw:1"
[08:57] <x-side> Its a bit slow on the "actually happenning" department
[08:57] <x-side> :)
[08:57] <xequence> the output from cat /proc/asound/cards lets you see what the name of the device is
[08:57] <xequence> x-side: The order of the devices may change at each boot
[08:57] <xequence> x-side: Therefore, if you use the name instead, it will always start the correct device
[08:58] <x-side> hmm
[08:58] <x-side> got an error message when trying to start the jack
[08:58] <cub> x-side, I was lucky to be in Prague to watch The Wedding Present at the Lucerna Music bar in..hmm..2010.
[08:59] <x-side> D-BUS:jack server could'nt be started . sorry
[09:00] <x-side> cub - yeah, there is a lot of touring acts passing by. And some even stop by and do things. But locally - it's all about beer and weed sadly. Noone actually wants to go past that
[09:00] <x-side> Even though there are a lot of musicians here
[09:01] <x-side> maybe even too many for the size of the city
[09:01] <x-side> That is strictly IMHO of course
[09:04] <x-side> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988203/  meanwhile i get this error
[09:04] <x-side> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5988203/  meanwhile i get this error
[09:05] <x-side> (sorry for double paste - cat disconnected the LAN cable )
[09:05] <x-side> xequence - it switches to (default) somehow
[09:07] <xequence> x-side: Maybe you've also started jackd, or an old process is in the background
[09:07] <xequence> x-side: killall -9 jackdbus
[09:07] <xequence> killall -9 jackd
[09:07] <xequence> and also, restart pulseaudio to be sure
[09:07] <xequence> pulseaudio -k
[09:07] <xequence> then try again
[09:08] <xequence> x-side: And make sure any jack application is closed before you kill the jacks
[09:08] <xequence> qjackctl starts jackdbus by default
[09:09] <xequence> it should grab the card from pulseaudio without problems now
[09:09] <xequence> and also set up a bridge, so you can set pulseaudio to use jack instead of a card - routing all desktop audio to your jack device
[09:18] <x-side> Hmmm
[09:19] <x-side> Now qjactl greeted me with this
[09:19] <x-side> 11:17:56.029 Patchbay deactivated.
[09:19] <x-side> 11:17:56.057 Statistics reset.
[09:19] <x-side> 11:17:56.104 ALSA connection change.
[09:19] <x-side> 11:17:56.214 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).
[09:19] <x-side> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[09:19] <x-side> Cannot connect to server socket
[09:19] <x-side> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[09:19] <x-side> 11:17:56.231 ALSA connection graph change.
[09:21] <x-side> That is odd
[09:34] <x-side> Will reboot and try to kill the buit in card in biosl
[09:34] <x-side> Not sure if it will work but well
[13:12] <MaynardWaters> smartboyhw: i didn't know that usb sticks didn't support multi partitions? I am setting a 128G one up now...
[13:14] <smartboyhw> MaynardWaters, a 128GB one probably can :P
[13:14] <OvenWerks> MaynardWaters: They don't?
[13:15] <OvenWerks> There are some ways multi-partition usb sticks won't work.... windows for example
[13:17] <MaynardWaters> holstein: the 32/64dual boot is exactly what Im shooting for
[13:18]  * smartboyhw just can't understand why one wants to run Ubuntu Studio on a USB stick (except for a live image)
[13:18] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: USB stick may equal USB drive
[13:19] <OvenWerks> I have run US on a USB drive lots of times very successfully
[13:19]  * OvenWerks has a 40G USB drive
[13:20]  * smartboyhw only has two 16GB and a 4GB
[13:20] <OvenWerks> I have also run US on a 32G memstick... it works, but is _much_ slower than just running a live ISO from the same stick
[13:21] <OvenWerks> memstick read is reasonably fast, though not max USB2.0 speed for sure, but memstick write on even the best ones is about 1/4 the read speed.
[13:22] <OvenWerks> Reading from compressed usb file systems is actually faster because the CPU can uncompress the data faster than the stick can be read.
[13:23] <OvenWerks> That is why the live ISO is faster.
[13:25] <OvenWerks> MaynardWaters: USB sticks normally come "floppy formatted" or cd style format.
[13:26] <OvenWerks> That is the FS is dropped right on /dev/sdc rather than /dev/sdc1.
[19:34] <MaynardWaters> OvenWerks: "floppy formatted" when I use gpart and make it ext4 or fat32, doesn't that change it?
[19:35] <OvenWerks> It can.
[19:35] <OvenWerks> I have not had problems having more than one partition on a USB stick/drive
[19:36] <OvenWerks> I ran a swap on there for a long time