[01:16] <megaCarrot> I have an issue with xubuntu where there seems to be a lot of disk latency issues while writing to and reading from the same disk.  The issue is that the problem doesn't exist when using normal unity or gnome-panel. It's the same setup with the same disk mounted the same way. Certain software like vlc for example will really lag when reading from the disk that's being written to. Those under the same circumstances in standard ubunt
[02:55] <Harrihu> Hello
[02:56] <Harrihu> I've got a small problem
[02:57] <Harrihu> I've inserted the live DVD R but all it does is give me a small icon on the bottom then goes to a black screen with a flashing cursor in the upper left of the screen as if it's waiting for something.
[02:57] <Harrihu> Any suggestions?
[02:57] <Harrihu> I'm still looking on the forums as well but was just curious if anyone knew what to do here.
[03:04] <Harrihu> Woah!
[03:04] <Harrihu> Figured it out.
[03:04] <Harrihu> I feel stupid I just hit enter when the logo near the bottom popped up.
[03:06]  * Harrihu tries to remain calm when he tells it to install and it goes back to the black screen with the cursor again.
[03:06] <Unit193> Or shift, but that's booting into maybe ubiquity.
[03:07] <Harrihu> Thanks for the suggestion
[03:08] <Harrihu> Might have been shift that I pressed
[03:09] <Harrihu> Is it possible that I'm burning the iso wrong? I just used the windows utility on my laptop that said burn iso image.
[03:10] <Unit193> When you hit shift, you can "Check disk for defects" too, may want to try that or an additional boot option like nomodeset or somesuch.
[03:10] <Harrihu> Performing that check now.
[03:11] <Harrihu> Oh fizzle!
[03:11] <Unit193> Do you have a spare flash drive?
[03:11] <Harrihu> Even the check disc for defects brings me to the black screen with the flashing thingy.
[03:11] <Unit193> Fun times had by all...
[03:11] <Harrihu> I think I do
[03:12] <Unit193> !usb
[03:12] <Harrihu> Thanks
[03:12] <Harrihu> I'll try a couple more things with this disc then create the USB.
[03:12] <Harrihu> I don't want to have to find it but it looks like I'll be doing that.
[03:18] <Harrihu> Any idea how long I should wait on that black screen before giving up and rebooting?
[03:21] <Unit193> Well, depends on your hardware, but at the options screen, I'd have hit F6, esc, and backspaced  "quiet splash" out of there.
[03:26] <Harrihu> Every option I try leads me to a black screen with the cursor looking blinking thingy.
[03:26] <Harrihu> the line
[03:26] <Harrihu> that blinks
[03:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> dat blink
[03:26] <Harrihu> Anyway I can hit a key when it's loading to bring up the menus and then f6
[03:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> sounds right
[03:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> then you can edit the boot string
[03:28] <Harrihu> any ideas what I should do there?
[03:29] <Harrihu> I see acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, nomodeset, free software only as options to select
[03:29] <Harrihu> Free software only should be useless
[03:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> nomodeset is sometimes helpful with the blinks
[03:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> hitting escape lets you edit the boot string, then you can remove quiet and splash
[03:31] <Harrihu> Oh ok
[03:31] <Harrihu> Now I understand
[03:31] <xubuntu568> I looooove xubuntu
[03:32] <Unit193> I rather like it.
[03:34] <Harrihu> Haven't tried it yet. The keyboard randomly stopped working
[03:34] <Harrihu> I think I've got it now
[03:35] <Harrihu> we'll see'
[03:38] <Harrihu> Removing quiet splash has done nothing so far
[03:38] <xubuntu568> Well. I running an '08 based computer. Its decent enough lol. Xfce runs like a charm, and if anybody remembers what xfce was 4-5 years ago its a lot better.
[03:40] <xubuntu568> Quick question. Forgive me if I am asking in the "wrong place". I've seen the tutorials online which I am going to follow. Has anybody had any luck using xbox kinect as a webcam?
[03:41] <Harrihu> That's an interesting idea
[03:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> xfce 4-5 years ago, was kinda like icewm
[03:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> it's come a long way in looks and features
[03:44] <Harrihu> What is deleting Quiet Splash supposed to do?
[03:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> It allows you to see whats going on.
[03:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> quiet hides messages
[03:45] <Harrihu> Well then that just confirms that nothing's going on
[03:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> splash shows you something pretty while it's loading
[03:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[03:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> how are you booting?
[03:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> usb, or dvd?
[03:45] <Harrihu> from live dvd
[03:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> an actual physical dvd?
[03:46] <Harrihu> yep
[03:46] <Harrihu> Installing it onto a desktop
[03:48] <Harrihu> oh
[03:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> is the dvd drive ok?
[03:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> sometimes, using th dvd is an awesome diagnostic to see if the drive is flakey.
[03:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> You could use the test disc feature.
[03:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> If it doesn't pass, that might be your issue
[03:49] <Harrihu> If I hit escape and go into leaving graphical boot menu into text mode interface then type cd after boot: it says could not find kernal image
[03:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> try testing the disc
[03:49] <Harrihu> I can't test the disc it goes straight to the black screen with the little blinking line cursor thingy
[03:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, you don't get the boot menu?
[03:51] <Harrihu> The boot menu is the thing that lets you select the language then has Try Xubuntu without installing, Install Xubuntu etc right?
[03:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> yeah
[03:51] <Harrihu> I get that
[03:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> there should be an option to test the disc/medium/what ever they call it
[03:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> test packages on dd
[03:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> dvd
[03:53] <Harrihu> Every single option I have selected so far no matter what options I have set have all taken me to a black screen with the blinking line cursor in the top left corner.
[03:53] <Harrihu> Including Check Disc for defects
[03:54] <Harrihu> Just tried it again
[03:55]  * Harrihu begins looking for his USB thumb drive
[03:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> You may have to consider doing an install from a usb stick
[03:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think your dvd drive has had it.
[03:55] <Harrihu> It boots up into the boot menu though.
[03:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Doesn't guarantee that the drive works. Just means that it could be flakey
[03:56] <Harrihu> I suppose
[03:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, bad drive or bad burn
[03:56] <Harrihu> It could be a bad burn
[03:57] <Harrihu> I used the default windows 8 burning software
[03:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> still, a usb stick would answer the question, once and for all
[03:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> win8?
[03:57] <Harrihu> more like fail8
[03:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> So the laptop isn't that old?
[03:58] <Harrihu> The laptops practically brand new. The desktop however is not.
[03:58] <Harrihu> It's a 2 core AMD
[03:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh
[03:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok
[03:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> so you're installing on the desktop, which isn't win8
[03:59] <Harrihu> It's nothing right now.
[03:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> what was it?
[04:00] <Guest6772> So kinect used as webcam...any luck? "13.04"
[04:01] <Harrihu> It was windows 7 but I have moved that copy of 7 to a different desktop
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> try a usb stick
[04:04] <Harrihu> reading the page on how to do that
[04:04] <Harrihu> Thanks for all the help so far
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> if it boots then, you'll have to diagnose the dvd drive
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> no prob
[04:05] <Harrihu> DVD drive is insignificant except for installing the OS at this point. It's going to be a dedicated Second Life computer
[04:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[04:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> in that case,if you have a plate to cover the hole, just remove later. one less bell to answer from a bigger prob with the drive
[04:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> or at least disconnect it
[04:08] <Harrihu> Probably will. If I need one I have a usb one for emergencies
[04:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh
[04:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> should try it with the usb one
[04:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe that'll boot
[04:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> then you can rule out the burn being bad
[04:15] <Guest66883> Had to restart. Anything on the kinect question for webcam on 13.04?
[04:16] <Harrihu> Not yet but I too am a tad curious
[04:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Guest66883, try this? http://openkinect.org/wiki/Getting_Started
[04:19] <Harrihu> Alright after working through this slightly confusing instruction set I think I'm on the right track
[04:19] <Harrihu> Extracting iso key
[04:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> iso key?
[04:19] <Harrihu> iso file on key lol
[04:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> ah
[04:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[04:30] <Harrihu> I would be really happy if any one step in this process ever went as expected and just worked
[04:30] <Harrihu> Computer won't boot from USB like I ask it too
[04:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[04:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> how did you make the usb stick?
[04:31] <Harrihu> I used linux live usb creator
[04:31] <Harrihu> It could be the usb device
[04:31] <Harrihu> Now it's trying to load the old windows 7 install
[04:33] <Harrihu> I'm going to try moving the usb to another port and also making another key using a different drive
[04:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, you're making the usb stick in windows?
[04:35] <Harrihu> yep
[04:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've had more success with universal usb installer
[04:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:37] <Harrihu> I'll try that next if this doesn't work
[04:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[04:39] <ransom> Harrihu, www.linuxliveusb.com/‎
[04:39] <ransom> i had trouble with a couple of different programs and that one worked
[04:40] <ransom> oh haha you had trouble
[04:40] <ransom> didnt see above
[04:40] <Harrihu> I must have bumped the usb drive and messed it up
[04:40] <Harrihu> The previous usb stick has issues
[04:41] <Harrihu> I should throw it out
[04:41] <ransom> did you get it yet?
[04:41] <Harrihu> It's just problem after problem with this
[04:41] <ransom> what does it say when you try to boot?
[04:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> He just gets the blinking cursor
[04:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> That and a missing kernel message.
[04:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> All from a DVD
[04:42] <ransom> hrm
[04:42] <ransom> the kernel issue would only happen if it wasnt written correctly on the dvd would it not?
[04:42] <ransom> if it gets that far it's at least trying to boot
[04:45] <Harrihu> With the program I was using and the better USB stick I get the following error "Attempting to boot from USB device. An operating system wasn't found. Try disconnecting any drives that don't contain and operating system Press any key to restart."
[04:46] <Harrihu> Going to try the programs you guys suggested.
[04:46] <ransom> when i was having problems i found something that said some bios need to have a setting changed on how they read usbs
[04:46] <ransom> let me switch to other computer for a sec and see if i can find the link
[04:47] <Harrihu> Sadly ransom the program you suggested was the one I just used.
[04:50] <ransom> i saw that afterwards :(
[04:51] <ransom> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-bios-boot-options/
[04:51] <ransom> maybe the bios isnt reading the usb correctly
[04:51] <ransom> some bios versions are particular about what type of fat32 partition it's usig
[04:51] <ransom> esp if it's older i beleive
[04:51] <ransom> *believe
[04:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> it's not that old
[04:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's a desktop designed to have win7
[04:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, that shouldn't be an issue
[04:54] <ransom> i dont know why it matters but for me i just had to try 3 programs before it worked
[04:54] <ransom> not sure how or why they would be writing the images differently
[04:54] <ransom> :(
[04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> It depends on how they work
[04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> sometimes they used a different booting method
[04:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> unetbootin: Had alot of issues because it uses it's own menu and boot mechanism. Made it incompatible with certain distros
[04:58] <ransom> ah ok
[04:58] <Harrihu> Still trying stuff
[04:58] <ransom> that's what i failed with installing xubuntu before linux live worked
[04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> now, if the iso is hybrid, I just use dd
[04:59] <Harrihu> using universal usb installer right now.
[04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> but, must be careful with dd
[04:59] <Harrihu> what's dd?
[04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> a linux terminal command
[05:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> used to write stuff to disks
[05:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> images, other partitions, other hard drives, isos, zeros, random zeros and ones.
[05:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> you name it
[05:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, must be used wisely.
[05:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> one wrong command, and you just wiped your hard drive.
[05:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, you triple check your commands
[05:06] <Harrihu> Using the better USB drive and the program you suggested Poisoned_Dragon I got it to boot to the boot menu
[05:07] <Harrihu> It still gives me the same error with the black screen and that blinking white line cursor thing
[05:07] <Harrihu> in the upper left
[05:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm weird
[05:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> why is your desktop so mean?
[05:15] <Harrihu> I don't know but I'm too tired to work on it any further tonight.
[05:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> don't blame you
[05:16] <Harrihu> I will attempt to try it on another computer tomorrow
[05:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> put it down and hit it with a fresh mind tomorrow
[05:16] <Harrihu> If that computer works then we can confirm that it's not the ISO image that's bad.
[05:17] <Harrihu> I'm willing to buy another computer of equal or greater ability if it turns out it's the box but this one was for free.
[05:18] <Harrihu> Thank you very much for all your help.  I won't forget.
[05:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> no prob
[05:20]  * Harrihu has taken down names so he can properly give credit later :-)
[05:21] <Unit193> In form of cookies?
[05:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> Mmmmmm... cookies
[08:08] <ST66> is there any easy solution for acer aspire 756  netbook to controll brightness? currently not working and it stays same level. os xubuntu 13.04
[08:12] <baizon> ST66: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness
[09:41] <tatz> Hey, my AR9271 usb wireless adapter isn't showing up on iwconfig or ifconfig however it does appear on lsusb wut do
[09:42] <bekks> tatz: Whats the output of ifconfig -a ?
[09:43] <tatz> bekks, http://pastebin.com/NFS4yq76
[09:44] <bekks> tatz: You can see wlan0 there.
[09:44] <tatz> that's not the interface i want
[09:44] <tatz> i have a dual card setup if you will
[09:44] <bekks> And you dont need to anon the output, since your local LAN IP addresses are irrelevant for us.
[09:45] <tatz> mm
[09:45] <tatz> They can be
[09:45] <tatz> Anyways, I'm trying to get another wlan up and running
[09:45] <tatz> simultaneously
[09:45] <bekks> They cant. You are in an local LAN, which is not reachable without NAT. And due to the nature of NAT, it isnt reachable directly.
[09:46] <newlinux> hi
[09:46] <bekks> tatz: You have to find out wether AR9271 is supported at all by Ubuntu.
[09:46] <tatz> I have my reasons, but can you help me out
[09:46] <tatz> Yes
[09:46] <tatz> it is
[09:47] <newlinux> the wifi menu on top panel is not showing any wifi connections but the laptop is connected to my wifi, how can i make the wifi menu to show the available wifi connections?
[09:47] <tatz> bekks, it says exactly what it is on lsusb too, it's just not around on the ifconfig
[09:47] <bekks> tatz: Showing up correctly in lsusb does not indicate wether that wifi chipset is supported at all.
[09:47] <tatz> I know
[09:48] <tatz> I looked it up though
[09:48] <tatz> And apparently it is
[09:48] <tatz> I mean
[09:48] <tatz> It's an atheros chipset
[09:48] <tatz> but
[09:49] <bekks> !enter
[09:49] <bekks> Being an atheros chipset does not indicate that your specific chipset is supported.
[09:50] <tatz> Is there any sort of punchline or.
[09:51] <bekks> !wifi
[09:53] <tatz> nooooooo
[10:46] <vice_> Guys, can i ask a question about xubuntu?
[10:46] <TheSheep> !hi | vice_
[10:48] <vice_> i have a trouble with my second screen, i cant change resolution (1280x1024)
[10:49] <vice_> so is it possible to change it?
[11:12] <nerdtron> yes it is possible
[11:12] <nerdtron> vice_ have you tried installing arandr?
[11:12] <vice_> oh, good idea, wait
[11:13] <nerdtron> sudo apt-get install arandr
[11:13] <vice_> got it
[11:14] <nerdtron> it's just a simple gui i hope it solves your problem
[11:14] <vice_> wow, se easy
[11:15] <vice_> thank you, can i ask one more question?
[11:15] <smartboyhw> vice_, just ask...
[11:15] <vice_> i have 2 screens, and i want to make right one 'main'
[11:15] <vice_> i need there top menu
[11:16] <vice_> left one stands so far away from me ;(
[11:17] <nerdtron> hmmm...i have no idea
[11:18] <nerdtron> vice_ doesn't it have an option in the display settings about that?
[11:18] <nerdtron> Main Menu> Settings manager
[11:18] <nerdtron> > Display
[11:19] <vice_> use this output/mirror/position/resolution/refresh rate/turn/reflection
[11:22] <vice_> google say nothing
[11:25] <vice_> and one more time please, is it possible to add ubuntu bottom panel(browser, apps etc)?
[11:36] <nerdtron> what do you mean add ubuntu bottom panel?
[11:36] <nerdtron> the "dock like" bottom panel?
[11:44] <vice_> i dont know what is dockline, 4-5 bottoms of soft in a middle
[11:44] <vice_> browser, search, application menu etc
[11:44] <nerdtron> you want to have the bottom panel?
[11:44] <vice_> нуз
[11:44] <vice_> yep*
[11:45] <nerdtron> it is there by default isn't it? you want to restore it back or you want o install a new (seperate program) for it?
[11:45] <vice_> i though it must be default too
[11:45] <vice_> but it isnt, realy
[11:46] <vice_> i have no idea where that menu gone ;)
[11:46] <vice_> i have stock xubuntu from official site, nothing more
[11:47] <vice_> ouch bro sorry me
[11:47] <vice_> looks like im blind
[11:47] <vice_> it opens while mouse is there
[11:47] <nerdtron> it there,,,just move your mouse
[11:47] <nerdtron> :)
[11:47] <vice_> sorry :)
[11:48] <vice_> you are so kind
[11:49] <vice_> its so usefull, jesus why i cant open it on right screen :(
[11:49] <vice_> it woult be so perfect
[11:50] <knome> vice_, you can create a new panel that duplicates that one, or move that panel to the right screen
[11:50] <nerdtron> w8..i'll do some research
[11:50] <vice_> knome, maybe you know how to make other screen main, i need top menu on right monitor
[11:50] <vice_> but google say nothing (
[11:51] <vice_> GOT IT!
[11:51] <vice_> right click on bottom menu
[11:51] <vice_> settings
[11:52] <vice_> choose screen there
[11:52] <nerdtron> hmmm...glad you sorted it out
[11:54] <vice_> guys you are so kind, thank you!
[11:54] <vice_> now i know why linux guys are so friendly :)
[11:55] <nerdtron> haha not all :) cause you're kind asking questions,, and your questions are not very technical, you just solved your own problem
[11:57] <vice_> thats why i installed xubuntu, at first my it depart advesed me fedora..
[11:57] <vice_> and that was so fat joke
[11:58] <vice_> OS that wors only by terminal is too difficult for me
[11:58] <nerdtron> haven't tried tried gnome 3 yet,,,and certainly haven't tried fedora
[11:58] <knome> !offopic | vice_, nerdtron
[11:58] <knome> !offtopic | vice_, nerdtron
[11:59] <knome> feel free to continue on -offtopic :)
[11:59] <nerdtron> but xubuntu is so simple and functional i love it
[11:59] <nerdtron> sorry my bad
[11:59] <knome> no problem, it's not the end of the world... but let's try to keep this channel free for others who might need support :)
[11:59] <nerdtron> i'm just bored at work and looking for random thing :)
[12:00] <knome> well -offtopic is perfect for that ;)
[12:46] <xubuntu320> hola! (hi)
[12:47] <xubuntu320> I need help with some drivers for neetbok!!
[12:48] <xubuntu320> somebody help me?
[12:48] <vice_> type your question
[12:49] <xubuntu320> I need some drivers for netbook exo x352
[12:49] <vice_> what card?
[12:51] <pmjdebruijn> what isn't working
[13:23] <lillen> I'm on xubuntu 13.04 desktop and I would like to change output device for the sound. Where might I be able to do that? Thanks a million
[13:23] <pmjdebruijn> pavucontrol I'd guess (emphasis on guess, since I don't have a xubuntu desktop handy atm)
[13:23] <lillen> (I have a generic USB headset I would like to use as output device.) I think the drivers and all that jazz are installed by default.
[13:24] <GridCube> pavucontrol indeed
[13:24] <pmjdebruijn> so bascilly just using the volume thing, as you'd expect
[13:24] <GridCube> lillen: see the speaker icon next the hour and date? clic on it and go to settings, that opens pavucontrol
[13:24] <lillen> oh dear
[13:24] <lillen> yes
[13:25] <lillen> Might have been an idea to check that one out... went to the settings manager intead, looked, found nothing... googled some CLIs... Right. :)
[13:25] <lillen> thanks, will try it out
[13:25] <lillen> yeah that worked swimmingly
[13:25] <lillen> thanks a mil!
[13:25] <pmjdebruijn> :)
[13:25] <GridCube> :)
[13:27] <lillen> This adapter thingy btw works out of the box for ubuntu. http://www.audiopro.com/products/living-wf100
[13:27] <lillen> and xubuntu, more importantly
[13:28] <pmjdebruijn> most usb audio products use usb audio class for which most modern operating systems have default generic drivers
[13:28] <pmjdebruijn> so most usb audio things just wrong
[13:28] <pmjdebruijn> work*
[13:28] <lillen> thanks again, now i can enjoy my music in them big speakers :D
[13:30] <GridCube> :)
[13:38] <nxis> hi! is anybody here using NAS (smb) media storage with xubuntu 12.04. I have a default installation and trying to play music from my smb server. I'm connecting to smb server using native file manager and trying to drag files onto the xubuntu music player, but files do not appear in player. Should I manually edit /etc/fstab, or is there more user-friendly approach? Maybe another music player?
[13:39] <pmjdebruijn> not sure
[13:39] <pmjdebruijn> does draging local music files work
[13:39] <nxis> lol, i didn't try :)
[13:39] <koegs> nxis: i would use /etc/fstab instead of file manager/gvfs
[13:39] <pmjdebruijn> do you have the proper codecs (in other works do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-good/gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad/gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly)
[13:40] <pmjdebruijn> it might have nothing to do with the share in the first place
[13:40] <koegs> if they do not appear and the player does not show an error, i would assume drag+drop in combination with gvfs does not work
[13:41] <pmjdebruijn> we don't know if local drag'n'drop works
[13:41] <pmjdebruijn> isn't gvfs just a local fuse mount?
[13:41] <pmjdebruijn> so in that sense there isn't anything different, is there?
[13:41] <nxis> pmjdebruijn: i'm sure i did set checkbox for proprietal codecs while installing xubuntu. But will check anyway.
[13:41] <pmjdebruijn> that's only one thing
[13:42] <pmjdebruijn> please do install those gstreamer packages
[13:46] <pmjdebruijn> nxis: did you try drag'n'dropping a local file after installing those codecs bundle's
[13:58] <nxis1> looks like codecs already installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5989115/
[13:59] <nxis1> will verify drag'n'drop from the local filesystem
[14:01] <pmjdebruijn> that's invalid
[14:02] <pmjdebruijn> dpkg -l | grep gstreamer0.10-plugins
[14:04] <nxis1> pmjdebruijn: oh
[14:04] <nxis1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5989154/
[14:06] <pmjdebruijn> so you have them, that's good
[16:59] <xubuntu066> Good day, might I ask a few questions?
[17:01] <bekks> Sure.
[17:01] <GridCube> !ask | xubuntu066
[17:03] <rdp1976> hello
[17:04] <rdp1976> I have been trying for 2 months to get my external monitor to work in Xubuntu
[17:05] <rdp1976> Finally fed up with it, I'm very close to uninstalling and switching to a different distribution because I simply can't use the Xubuntu side of my dual boot because the 1024 x 768 maximum resolution is UGLY and annoying
[17:05] <rdp1976> I have a thread that has been getting me nowhere
[17:05] <rdp1976> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161010
[17:05] <rdp1976> If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it
[17:06] <xubuntu066> Sorry, I'll go ahead: currrently I am attempting to revive an old laptop of mine by installing from a DVD, it appears to boot from it without much trouble, however when I attempt to install something weird happens. The instalation screen goes only so far as verifying available space, internet conection and some other option, there is also a checkbox for 3rd party stuff like an mp3 plugin, but when I click continue the screen goe
[17:07] <xubuntu066> there is something written on it, a lot of stuff, but i AM NOT SURE OF THE MEANING
[17:07] <xubuntu066> sorry about the caps
[17:07] <rdp1976> ?
[17:08] <rdp1976> Is that an answer to my question? lol
[17:08] <xubuntu066> no, sorry, that is my own
[17:09] <rdp1976> ok
[17:10] <rdp1976> not much support here apparently
[17:11] <cub> rdp1976, give it time. I'm checking your forum thread right now
[17:14] <GridCube> xubuntu066: have to tried a different dvd? maybe the media its corrupted
[17:15] <GridCube> check its md5 consistency against the numbers on the download page
[17:16] <xubuntu066> I'll try
[17:17] <cub> rdp1976, sorry after all that's done in the thread already I don't have anything new to try out. Hopefully someone of the more senior people here can help out.
[17:21] <GridCube> rdp1976: what drivers are you using?
[17:22] <rdp1976> GridCube - I have no idea what drivers I'm using. How can I check that?
[17:22] <rdp1976> Also, I'm in Windows at the moment, so I'll have to check that later
[17:23] <GridCube> rdp1976: you using 13.04 right? then in the setting manager you have an "aditional drivers" entry
[17:23] <GridCube> that leads you to the last tab of the software sources and aditional drivers manager of ubuntu
[17:24] <GridCube> there you can see what drivers you have, if you did not did this before then you are probably using the generic drivers, you might have better ones avaibale there that would give you more settings and options
[17:24] <GridCube> i dont know if thats the case though
[17:45] <xubuntu563> Hi guys, I just installed xbuntu and I have a dual monitor setup, one of my monitors is workin fine but the other old one is stuck on 800x600
[17:46] <xubuntu563> Does anyone know how to fix this? Also when I enter the "Display" menu it gives me an error that XFCE can't be configured so I use the Nvidia configuration setup
[17:47] <holstein> xubuntu563: i use arandr.. try that, then a custom xorg.conf.. then the driver, if there are others available
[17:47] <rdp1976> GridCube - sorry for the delay
[17:48] <xubuntu563> Cool, i'll give it a go
[17:55] <rdp1976> GridCube - I am using 13.04 and when I go to Additional Drivers there is nothing listed
[17:56] <rdp1976> I am using generic drivers then?
[17:56] <rdp1976> I feel like I need to add better drivers or something, but it is not clear how to do that
[17:56] <GridCube> rdp1976: you probaly are
[17:56] <GridCube> rdp1976: if they are available in the main repos they should be listed there
[17:57] <GridCube> rdp1976: please run this on a terminal: lspci | grep "VGA"
[17:57] <GridCube> and paste the resulting line
[17:58] <rdp1976> ok, I'll have to log off and log back in from Xubuntu ... I'm in windows right now
[18:03] <xubuntu773> Hi! Just installed Xubuntu..from scratch, (no other gui) lots of icons are missing, in the panel and the menu. Any idea why?
[18:05] <well_laid_lawn> what do you mean "from scratch"
[18:05] <well_laid_lawn> did you check the iso?
[18:05] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[18:05] <elfy> and what do you think is missing?
[18:06] <xubuntu773> i mean.. I wiped out the other installs and installed the entire thing from disk (as opposed to just installing the gui with apt-get)
[18:06] <rdp1976> I'm back - in Xubuntu now, using hideous 1024x768 resolution lol
[18:06] <GridCube> lspci | grep "VGA"
[18:06] <rdp1976> lspci | grep "VGA" 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:07] <rdp1976> sorry, output is
[18:07] <rdp1976> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:07] <GridCube> ok
[18:07] <rdp1976> resolution is 1920 x 1080 on my ultrabook screen
[18:07] <GridCube> intel should just use generic drivers
[18:07] <GridCube> though there is some extra drivers
[18:07] <rdp1976> connecting VGA to DP1 multidisplay adapter
[18:08] <xubuntu773> I usually md5sum before installing but couldn't find them online for the xubuntu install iso so I just went with it
[18:08] <rdp1976> well, when I open Software Updater it won't allow me to update anything either
[18:08] <GridCube> rdp1976: there might be some helpful drivers here https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[18:09] <rdp1976> I'll do it now, but in all liklihood opening Software Updater will crash and reboot Xubuntu
[18:09] <rdp1976> another frustration
[18:10] <GridCube> rdp1976: you can avoid using a graphical instance and go to a tty for that
[18:10] <rdp1976> Upgrading to Linux Graphics Installer for Ubuntu* 13.04, 64-bit
[18:11] <rdp1976>  31 Jul 2013 update
[18:11] <rdp1976> maybe that'll help
[18:11] <GridCube> :) hope that fixes yer problems rdp1976
[18:12] <rdp1976> reboot required?
[18:12] <rdp1976> mate, I would be SO stoked to get this display thing figured out
[18:13] <GridCube> probably, its a graphical thing so its the safest road to reboot in my exp.
[18:13] <rdp1976> I took a long hiatus from Linux, and since installing Xubuntu back at the end of June, I've literally not been able to use it
[18:13] <rdp1976> 90% of the time I'm connected to my external monitor and with the resolution so bad, I just cant work that way
[18:13] <rdp1976> rebooting
[18:14] <rdp1976> back in a minute
[18:16] <xubuntu773> .. found the md5sums I need.. checking now
[18:17] <rdp1976_> I'm back, no bueno
[18:18] <xubuntu773> MD5 checked out.. no problem there
[18:19] <GridCube> rdp1976_: :( how bad
[18:19] <rdp1976_> When I run Software Updater, I see there are alot of updates available
[18:20] <rdp1976_> When I click "Install Now" it prompts me for my password (after hanging for about 1 minute)
[18:20] <rdp1976_> I type in my password and click Authenticate
[18:21] <rdp1976_> Says "Installing U[dates
[18:21] <rdp1976_> "Installing Updates"
[18:21] <rdp1976_> giving you a play by play, because last time I tried this it gave me an error message and crashed Xubuntu :-P
[18:22] <rdp1976_> GridCube - if you can help me sort this out, you'll be my hero forever
[18:22] <xubuntu773> I've literally just installed (12.04) so maybe I should try out one of the newer releases or install Ubuntu server then get the Xubuntu desktop through apt-get? Any advice?
[18:22] <rdp1976_> I'm THIS close to blasting my Xubuntu partition and going with a different distro, but I really like Xubuntu and want to get it working
[18:23] <rdp1976_> about halfway through installing updates... hopefully the Xubuntu Base contains some updates that fix my problem
[18:24] <GridCube> rdp1976_: in this matters xubuntu has little to do really, its a *buntu matter. all the flavours use the same driver stacks
[18:25] <GridCube> sadly new technology doesnt play well with opensource so video drivers are always an itchy problem
[18:28] <well_laid_lawn> heh "itchy problem" :)
[18:29] <rdp1976> UGGGHHHH
[18:29] <rdp1976> Xubuntu just decided to randomly restart in the middle of installing updates
[18:29] <rdp1976> WTF!!
[18:30] <GridCube> :/
[18:32] <rdp1976_> rebooted, no change
[18:33] <rdp1976_> I can't BELIEEEEEEVE how complicated this is turning out to be!!! It's a Viewsonic HDMI monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution!
[18:33] <GridCube> :/
[18:33] <rdp1976_> Plug n play no problems with Windows 8
[18:33] <GridCube> i dont know rdp1976_ :(
[18:33] <rdp1976_> Xubuntu just REFUSES to let me set the resolution to 1920 x 1080
[18:33] <GridCube> rdp1976_: windows has proper drivers
[18:33] <rdp1976_> I'm like ready to put my head through a wall
[18:33] <rdp1976_> its been almost 2 months and nobody on this planet seems to be able to help!!
[18:35] <GridCube> :( i don't know how to help you rdp1976_ you might have to wait for smarter people
[18:35] <bazhang> he quit
[18:35] <GridCube> oh well
[18:35] <elfy> no they haven;t rdp1976 did
[18:36] <rdp1976_> Im here
[18:36] <elfy> _ is still here
[18:36] <bazhang> ah the tail
[18:36] <rdp1976_> sorry, I've had to log back in multiple times because Xubuntu keeps randomly rebooting me
[18:37] <bazhang> how full is the hdd
[18:37] <rdp1976_> if you Google "xubuntu set external display resolution" you get MY ubuntuforums thread as the FIRST result
[18:37] <rdp1976_> I think the userbase of Xubuntu is just too small
[18:38] <rdp1976_> nobody seems to know much
[18:38] <bazhang> doubtful
[18:38] <bazhang> I just asked a question
[18:38] <rdp1976_> well I've been hustling for almost 2 months to get some help with this and everything that has been recommended so far hasnt helped unfortunately
[18:38] <GridCube> rdp1976_: as i said before in this matter its not xubuntu, its the whole ubuntu
[18:39] <GridCube> video drivers are not up to just us, we use the same, as ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, gnome-ubuntu or any *buntu
[18:39] <Myrtti> grandr is a great tool
[18:39] <rdp1976_> I'm aware of that
[18:39] <GridCube> rdp1976_: well then dont limit your search to xubuntu only :)
[18:39] <bazhang> prefacing everything with how hard it is, and how poorly xubuntu is supported etc is not really useful info
[18:39] <rdp1976_> Myrtti - ARandR was recommended to me as a fix
[18:39] <rdp1976_> I installed it, doesn't help
[18:40] <Myrtti> rdp1976_: so how did you run it then?
[18:40] <Myrtti> just installing it doesn't help
[18:40] <Myrtti> grandr is a bit more graphical
[18:42] <Myrtti> if your computer shuts down and reboots spontaneously, you've got bigger problems than just the screen resolution
[18:42] <rdp1976_> bazhang - I have a 2 month old thread on Ubuntuforums which thoroughly documents everything I've tried to do to resolve the problem
[18:42] <rdp1976_> that is more than useful info
[18:43] <rdp1976_> 3 pages of back and forth with very thorough details about the problem, solutions offered, tried and failed etc
[18:43] <rdp1976_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161010
[18:44] <rdp1976_> I'm trying to resolve the problem and open to all and any suggestions
[18:44] <rdp1976_> and hopefully help other people down the track if they encounter this problem
[18:45] <rdp1976_> Myrtti -  I run ARandR from Settings Manager
[18:45] <rdp1976_> it doesnt give me anything more than what "Display" offers
[18:46] <rdp1976_> i.e. the option to choose resolution for DP1, the max of which is 1024 x 768, even though the monitor supports 1920 x 1080 (which is what I'm trying to achieve)
[18:46] <bazhang> from what card
[18:47] <rdp1976_> not sure what you mean "from what card"
[18:47] <rdp1976_> there is no option to choose a card
[18:47] <bazhang> video card
[18:48] <rdp1976_> I dont know, how can I answer that
[18:48] <bazhang> lspci in terminal
[18:49] <rdp1976_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:50] <bazhang> and you have achieved that resolution with this card prior
[18:50] <rdp1976_> In Windows 8 yes
[18:51] <rdp1976_> Dual boot Xubuntu + Windows 8
[18:51] <bazhang> this is the 2nd display, and what's the res on the first monitor
[18:51] <rdp1976_> First display is the ultrabook display, 1920 x 1080
[18:52] <rdp1976_> 2nd display is external Viewsonic HDMI Full HD 1080p monitor
[18:52] <rdp1976_> First display works 1920 x 1080 for both Windows 8 and Xubuntu
[18:52] <bazhang> and windows 8 allows 1920x1080 for both simultaneously, or you just want it on the 2nd
[18:52] <rdp1976_> Second display works 1920 x 1080 in windows 8
[18:52] <rdp1976_> both simultaneously
[18:53] <rdp1976_> Windows 8 permits that and thats what I want
[18:53] <rdp1976_> Xubuntu only allows 1024 x 768 on external display - this is my frustration
[18:53] <rdp1976_> when I work from home (90% of the time) I always connect to my external display
[18:53] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: can you pastebin the output of 'xrandr' command?
[18:54] <bazhang> hdmi straight up, or via an adapter
[18:54] <rdp1976_> yes - what is pastebin?
[18:54] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com
[18:54] <rdp1976_> Dell multidisplay port adapter
[18:54] <bazhang> dvi to hdmi?
[18:55] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: you paste it on that website, and paste the url here
[18:55] <rdp1976_> ok
[18:55] <rdp1976_> fyi - adapter is
[18:55] <rdp1976_> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=331-2972
[18:56] <bazhang> dvi to hdmi?
[18:56] <TheSheep> no, mini-displayport
[18:56] <bazhang> ok
[18:56] <TheSheep> to vga
[18:56] <rdp1976_> http://pastebin.com/NnBLb0Y8
[18:57] <rdp1976_> FYI, I purchased this Ultrabook from Dell in April. The adapter came with it.
[18:58] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: you have a hdmi port on it too?
[18:58] <James_Epp> I recently installed xubuntu 12.04.2, but it does not look like it has detected my ethernet device. Running this on a netbook. I know it is working fine, as I used a pxe boot to install the OS.
[18:59] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: looks like it couldn't retrieve the monitor info and settled for the default
[18:59] <TheSheep> James_Epp: what is the make and model of your ethernet device?
[19:00] <TheSheep> James_Epp: you can usually check with lspci in terminal
[19:00] <rdp1976_> TheSheep - I have an SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Docking Station and THAT has a HDMI port
[19:00] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: I see
[19:00] <rdp1976_> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=332-0446
[19:00] <James_Epp> TheSheep: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8132 Fast Ethernet (rev c0)
[19:01] <rdp1976_> I have tried connection HDMI cable from that to monitor, but couldnt get it to display anything
[19:01] <rdp1976_> *connecting
[19:02] <TheSheep> James_Epp: did you google for that and ubuntu?
[19:02] <James_Epp> TheSheep: I shall attempt
[19:02] <TheSheep> James_Epp: you will probably find some forum posts with people having a similar problem
[19:03] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: if you want to try again, connect it and do 'xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto' -- it should work
[19:03] <rdp1976_> i'll try now
[19:03] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: but I have no idea how to make it see your monitor through that adapter properly
[19:04] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: I suppose you could add a mode with xrandr manually, but I never did that
[19:04] <James_Epp> TheSheep: It appears it is a "certified" component for other subnotebooks.
[19:05] <TheSheep> James_Epp: does your eth0 (or whatever apart from lo) appear when you do `ifconfig -a` in a terminal?
[19:06] <James_Epp> TheSheep: I get an eth0 and an eth2. eth2 is for wlan, which I find odd, but it is getting an IP and is how I have internet access on the device currently. I do need this ethernet to work, however.
[19:06] <TheSheep> James_Epp: ok, so the kernel sees your ethernet device, that's good
[19:07] <TheSheep> James_Epp: so how did you test your network?
[19:07] <James_Epp> I have another 20+ machines on it.
[19:07] <James_Epp> ...all with Internet access.
[19:07] <TheSheep> James_Epp: right, but those work, so we don't need to concern ourselves with them
[19:08] <rdp1976_> I have tried to add a mode manually with xrandr and made some progress, but it was pretty dodgy
[19:08] <James_Epp> TheSheep: So what were you asking when "test the network"
[19:08] <TheSheep> James_Epp: what did you do to conclude that it "doesn't work"
[19:08] <rdp1976_> fyi, looks like Xubuntu doesnt detect the USB Docking either, so "xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto" doesnt do anything either'
[19:09] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: that's a shame
[19:09] <James_Epp> TheSheep: Other machines work on that cable. Other operating environments (pxe booting) work 100% on the netbooks hardware. The xubuntu OS is the only thing that does not. Therfor, it is limited to the machine
[19:09] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: that's pretty much all that I know, sorry
[19:09] <TheSheep> James_Epp: sure, but what doesn't work exactly?
[19:10] <James_Epp> TheSheep: It does not appear to do any sort of handshake. There are, unfortunately, no LEDs on the system for network activity.
[19:10] <TheSheep> James_Epp: does it get IP address, but cannot send anything, does it work if you set a static ip on it?
[19:10] <rdp1976_> thanks for your help TheSheep
[19:10] <James_Epp> TheSheep: No "dhcp" handshake, that is.
[19:10] <rdp1976_> I think at this stage its time to cut my losses and bid farewell to Xubuntu
[19:10] <TheSheep> James_Epp: tried static ip?
[19:11] <TheSheep> James_Epp: does it even appear in the network settings?
[19:11] <rdp1976_> I was really excited to use the distro, but there just doesnt seem to be the support out there
[19:11] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: yeah, it's a lottery
[19:11] <rdp1976_> I've literally spent 2 months trying to get it workng
[19:11] <James_Epp> TheSheep: No, there is nothing under the wired tab of Network Connections.
[19:11] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: it's been improving in recent years greatly though
[19:11] <rdp1976_> this computer was purchased in APRIL lol
[19:12] <rdp1976_> someone mentioned installing Ubuntu in Xubuntu as a potential fix, but I dont know what that means or how to do it
[19:12] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: I had some problems with my new netbook too, but the next kernel release fixed many of them -- so maybe check back in a while
[19:12] <James_Epp> TheSheep: Also, under my network panel, under "Wired Network" it says "unmanaged"
[19:12] <rdp1976_> someone also mentioned I could upgrade the linux kernel in Xubuntu
[19:13] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: basically you install the package called 'ubuntu-desktop' and then you can choose whether you want ubuntu or xubuntu at the login screen
[19:13] <James_Epp> TheSheep: Correction: It says "device not managed"
[19:13] <rdp1976_> I downloaded linux-3.10.1
[19:14] <James_Epp> Would updating the kernel manually for me perhaps resolve my issue? If so, which package do I use?
[19:14] <TheSheep> !kernel
[19:14] <rdp1976_> for me uname -r = 3.8.0-29-generic
[19:15] <James_Epp> rdp1976_: Perhaps I'll try that.
[19:15] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: that's recent
[19:15] <rdp1976_> I downloaded linux-3.10.1.tar.xz but don't know what to do with it
[19:15] <James_Epp> Yeah, mine is 3.2.0-51-generic
[19:15] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: you would compile it yourself, as that link above explains, but that's pretty advanced stuff
[19:15] <rdp1976_> 3.10.7 is latest stable
[19:15] <James_Epp> Yeah, I don't want to :S
[19:16] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: 3.10 will be in the next ubuntu
[19:16] <TheSheep> in 2 months or so
[19:16] <James_Epp> I'll just install xubuntu from a disc and see what happens. You never know.....
[19:16] <James_Epp> Thanks for the help, guys!
[19:16] <TheSheep> James_Epp: good luck!
[19:17] <rdp1976_> when is next xubuntu release?
[19:17] <James_Epp> TheSheep: I will return with results. Maybe half an hour to 45m if you are still here.
[19:17] <rdp1976_> ah 2 months
[19:17] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: it's every 6 months, on March and November
[19:17] <bazhang> april?
[19:17] <TheSheep> sorry, October
[19:18] <TheSheep> argh
[19:18] <bazhang> hehe
[19:18] <TheSheep> on 4th and 10th months :P
[19:18] <TheSheep> month names are stupid
[19:18] <TheSheep> especially when every language has their own
[19:18] <rdp1976_> long time to wait
[19:19] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: you can try the beta already, but expect breakage
[19:19] <rdp1976_> neg, there is enough broken already
[19:19] <rdp1976_> is there a way to contact people at Xubuntu to notify of my problem to see if they can address it in the next release?
[19:20] <TheSheep> !bugs
[19:21] <TheSheep> that would be a bug for xserver-xorg-video-intel I suppose
[19:21] <rdp1976_> it says package 13.04 oesn't exist
[19:22] <TheSheep> rdp1976_: you can also use a website: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/
[19:23] <TheSheep> sorry, that's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[19:25] <rdp1976_> how can I install grandr
[19:26] <rdp1976_> doesnt show up in Software Center
[19:29] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get install grandr
[19:30] <TheSheep> !info grandr
[19:30] <TheSheep> !info arandr
[19:34] <rdp1976_> already have arandr installed
[19:34] <rdp1976_> doesnt help any
[19:34] <rdp1976_> Oh well, thanks for your help
[19:34] <rdp1976_> I guess it's back to Windows 8 then!
[19:53] <cinvoke> having trouble starting xubunu window manager.  halting after if checks the battery and turns powersave off
[20:02] <cinvoke> my window manager isnt starting and im not sure how to figure out why.  ive deleted ~/.config and cache thinking maybe that was the cause.  that didnt work.  im running xubuntu 13.04 in virtualbox.
[22:01] <James_Epp> TheSheep: Tried both amd64 and i386 versions from dvd, no difference. Still not showing up.
[22:01]  * James_Epp is puzzled
[22:04] <knome> James_Epp, what isn't?
[22:24] <James_Epp> knome: Ethernet issues.
[22:25] <James_Epp> haha! resolved.
[22:51] <Sideburns> Hello.  I've downloaded the X86 .iso for the latest Xubuntu and am trying to create a live usb for a friend, using Fedora's liveusb-creator.
[22:52] <Sideburns> The program can't verify the checksum.  I've done so and told it not to verify, but now it says that it can't find an OS.
[22:54] <Sideburns> The exact error: Unable to find LiveOS on ISO.  Using any form of Ubuntu is not currently an option.  Does anybody know what's going on?
[22:54] <GridCube> no, but you can use unetbootin
[22:55] <GridCube> i never have had problems with unebootin
[22:55] <Sideburns> The exact name of the file I'm using is xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:56] <Sideburns> OK, I can install and try that.  Will stay here until I have, and report back.  Thanx for the suggestion.
[22:56] <GridCube> Sideburns, i dont know how the usb creator of fedora works
[22:56] <GridCube> the iso is probably fine
[22:59] <Sideburns> GridCube, I didn't expect you to know how the Fedora program works, but I did think you'd want to know what I'd used and what happened.
[23:00] <Sideburns> I've used the program with Fedora iso files before and it worked.  Later, I'll take this up with the Fedora people.  Maybe it's looking for something Fedora-specific?
[23:01] <GridCube> :)
[23:01] <GridCube> i dont know, as i said, unetbootin its crossplataform and always works for me
[23:02] <torax> I used unetbootin until I found the magical world of dd
[23:03] <Sideburns> Well, it seems to have worked; now, I'll need to reboot to be sure.  If it didn't, I'll come back; if it did, no need to bother you any more.
[23:04] <Unit193> torax: But effort on fixing the partition table. :P
[23:05] <torax> with a great power comes a great responsibility ;)