/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/16/#kubuntu-devel.txt

ScottKNoskcaj: pbuilder isn't Kubuntu specific at all, so this isn't the right channel.01:40
manchickenapachelogger: Yo. You going to be online at all on Saturday?03:11
smartboyhwSomeone please review https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-1/+files/amarok_2.8.0-0ubuntu1.dsc05:13
NoskcajScottK, I asked here because he wasn't online in -motu06:31
smartboyhwNoskcaj, private message?06:32
Noskcajsmartboyhw, sure06:36
Noskcajsmartboyhw, Don't ask to PM me, just PM. I'll either reply or not be there at all and see it later06:37
smartboyhwah:)06:37
smartboyhwsure06:38
NoskcajRiddell, PING07:45
NoskcajCan someone look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/ktp-call-ui/0.6.3-1 ? It's the only ktp branch that still needs to be edited for ubuntu07:59
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RiddellNoskcaj: hi09:13
Noskcajhey Riddell. I've merged pbuilder already, do you mind looking at the branch? also, all but one of the ktp programs now have sync bugs. The other has ubuntu specific patches09:15
Noskcaj(which also need approving)09:15
Riddellhttps://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/pbuilder/215 ?09:18
NoskcajRiddell, yep. sorry i forgot to link it09:18
Riddelllooking09:22
Noskcajthanks09:22
RiddellNoskcaj: waa09:43
Riddell[FAIL] test_debuildopts expected [] but got [/tmp/tmp.PD39vpkTKx/usr/share/pbuilder/pbuilderrc: line 3: keyk: command not found]09:43
RiddellNoskcaj: it fails on the tests, any idea what that's about?09:43
NoskcajRiddell, no. It doesn't look related to anything i changed though. unless setting the distro as "saucy" caused it09:44
RiddellNoskcaj: do you know if anything is changed outside the debian/ directory compared to debian?09:45
Riddellmm yes lots09:46
NoskcajRiddell, Most are from debian, some left over and auto-applied from previous uploads09:48
RiddellNoskcaj: it is something you've added http://paste.kde.org/p4c4bd722/09:48
NoskcajRiddell, i don't remember doing that. i assume fixing it will fix the tests breakage09:50
Noskcajbut debian didn't do that, so i must have somehow deleted that by accident. 09:51
NoskcajRiddell, I have to go now. If there's anything that i need to change, ping me in the morning (2000UTC)09:55
RiddellNoskcaj: it's working with that removed, thanks for the merge09:57
Riddellhum, ktp-accounts-kcm in debian has a different md5sum from upstream and us10:09
Riddelland other ktp bits too10:11
smartboyhwRiddell: yofel or whoever: Do you guys have experience with generated .la files having problems with https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/LAFileRemoval ?10:20
smartboyhwshadeslayer: apachelogger^10:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: not sure what your question is, I think if you remove a .la file you need to rebuild all the rdepends10:25
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smartboyhwRiddell: the problem is that the file keeps being generated at build-time..10:26
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's the problem? either package it or don't surely10:27
Riddell!testers | user-manager from git needs testing10:28
ubottuuser-manager from git needs testing: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.10:28
smartboyhwRiddell: here's the problem. Some of the dependeny_lib are useful to be linked, some or not.....10:28
smartboyhw*are10:28
smartboyhwHmm...10:29
smartboyhwRiddell: BTW, got some time to review 2.8.0?10:38
smartboyhwI mean, for Amarok10:38
smartboyhwIt's in my packaging-staging-1 PPA10:38
Riddellsmartboyhw: sure, where's packaging-staging-1?10:38
smartboyhwRiddell: find it in launchpad.net/~smartboyhw please;P10:38
Riddellsmartboyhw: you done it for saucy? planning on raring or precise?10:38
smartboyhwI'm currently in Debian10:38
smartboyhwRiddell: review it for Saucy first:P10:39
* smartboyhw reboots back to Ed/K/Ubuntu:P10:39
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm back:P10:44
Riddellwelcome back!10:44
smartboyhwRiddell, so, you managed to find my PPA?10:45
Riddellsmartboyhw: sorry testing user-manager right now10:51
yofelsmartboyhw: not really, I don't know much about libtool11:08
smartboyhwyofel, :(11:13
smartboyhwyofel, then you got anytime to review amarok?:P11:13
yofeltoo busy, sorry11:14
smartboyhwMeh:(11:14
yofelsmartboyhw: what's up with this bzr diff? http://paste.kde.org/p6ba14f3411:44
yofelalso, unless the package was uploaded to archive, bzr series is UNRELEASED11:45
yofelthe uploader sets that and tags11:45
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markeysmartboyhw: how is Amarok 2.8 packaging coming along?11:57
markeywe plan to make the release official tonight11:57
markeypublic I mean11:57
smartboyhwyofel, ask yofel ...11:57
markeyyofel: ^ :)11:58
smartboyhwyofel, DUNNO about the control file...11:58
* smartboyhw did not notice that...11:58
yofelsmartboyhw: I'm waiting for you to answer why you overwrote my change11:58
smartboyhwyofel, I don't know (AT ALL)11:58
* smartboyhw wonders what the hell had happened...11:58
yofellet me guess? you started form the archive package, then took bzr, updated, copied your debian folder to bzr and comitted?11:59
smartboyhwyofel, uh huh11:59
yofelwell, like this you will loose any changes that are staged in bzr11:59
smartboyhwSorry...12:00
smartboyhwMy epic fault:(12:00
yofelwell, happens, please watch next time. It can also happen that people upload without committing to bzr so you need to watch both directions12:01
smartboyhwyofel, sorry again..12:03
yofelno problem, that's what we do the reviews for ;)12:04
smartboyhwyofel, :P12:04
yofelsmartboyhw: do you want to fix it or should I?12:07
smartboyhwyofel, you:)12:07
yofelok12:08
yofelsmartboyhw: looks good otherwise, uploaded12:19
smartboyhwyofel, but now we are receiving many reports of 4.11 upgrades not working;O12:20
yofel"many" where?12:21
smartboyhwyofel, #kubuntu12:21
smartboyhw3 at the same time (suddenly)12:21
yofelI don't really have time for support, but I can at least look at the one who posted the apt output12:23
Riddellta da http://docs.kubuntu.org12:44
smartboyhwyofel, can you tell Riddell what packages to rebuild?12:45
smartboyhw^12:45
Riddellmanchicken: plenty of bugs in that should you be interested in fixing them :)12:45
smartboyhwyofel, which ones anyway?12:45
Riddellsmartboyhw: who what?12:45
smartboyhwRiddell, nothing, :P12:45
manchickenRiddell: I'm going to try to get in some work tomorrow after my half marathon.12:45
yofelRiddell: discussing bug 121306612:45
ubottubug 1213066 in Kubuntu PPA "Upgrade to 4.11 causes vast packages removal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121306612:45
yofelwhich is mostly extra kde stuff12:46
manchickenRiddell: I've been doing a lot of studying and code quizzes for a job hunt.12:46
smartboyhwyofel, so basically, every package depending on libtaskmanager needs a bump, right?12:46
yofelpretty much, a no change rebuild should suffice12:47
yofelbut do check whether it actually builds12:47
Riddellwhat version is this?12:48
yofelprecise12:49
Riddellso these ones http://paste.kde.org/p2cd3656f/12:50
smartboyhwThat's mostly kde-workspace12:50
RiddellI did test upgrade with kde-full and kubuntu-full installed but I guess those are obscure plugins and the like not included in those meta packages12:51
Riddellless these ones http://paste.kde.org/p1d557de8/12:51
smartboyhwRiddell, but the package NAMES are the same12:52
Riddellmm good point12:52
smartboyhwyofel, hmm code failure for amarok armhf again sigh (even with the libopengl depend optional now)12:55
smartboyhwAlright, the .so files again:P12:55
manchickenRiddell: There are several companies I may end up going to work for, I had to learn a bunch of algorithm stuff for the interviews. I'm hopefully coming off of that now.12:56
smartboyhwRiddell, how to remove a file for a specific architecture in debian/rules?12:56
Riddellsmartboyhw: you mean delete it only on arm?12:57
smartboyhwRiddell, yep12:57
manchickenOkay, I'm going to go to the current job. Later.12:58
Riddellifeq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH),armel armhf))12:59
Riddell rm file12:59
Riddellendif12:59
smartboyhwRiddell, thank you:P12:59
Riddellsmartboyhw: would be one way?12:59
Riddellso elequent is makefile syntax13:00
smartboyhwRiddell, actually, I'm wrong, I mean for a .install file:P13:05
smartboyhwLike, that file doesn't exist in armhf13:06
Riddellsmartboyhw: needs a separate foo.install.armhf file13:06
Riddellcheck  man dh_install  for the syntax13:06
smartboyhwRiddell, so I copy everything over, and comment out that file?13:07
Riddellyeah I think so, check the man page13:07
Riddell(another way is to not include the file in the .install and have something in rules which copies it if it's there)13:07
smartboyhwRiddell, I don't think it says about .install.armhf files..13:08
Riddellhmm you're right, but try it, it should work13:09
smartboyhwRiddell, sure13:09
smartboyhwRiddell, wait, I saw in not-installed that some files are installed using debian/rules for non-arm only, but where's that relative bit in rules?13:11
Riddellmm kde-window-manager breaks old styles manually that's what it is http://paste.kde.org/p8825d2a5/13:13
Riddellsmartboyhw: relative bit?13:13
yofelI backported a working qtcurve now13:14
smartboyhwRiddell, I mean, the bit that installs those files13:14
yofelthe rest doesn't look fixable from our side13:14
Riddellsmartboyhw: what are you packaging?13:15
smartboyhwRiddell, amarok.13:15
smartboyhwThe armhf build failed because one of the spectrum files wasn't included in that “using debian/rules to install specifically to non-arm"13:16
Riddellsmartboyhw: hmm, yes, not sure what's happened there13:17
smartboyhw...13:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: this is what's in an old revision http://paste.kde.org/pece4cf60/13:18
* smartboyhw checks the logs:P13:18
Riddellah moved by yofel with comment   * Remove spectrum analyzer file from debian/rules, no longer upstream13:18
yofeluhm13:18
yofelsounds vaguely familiar now that you mention it13:19
smartboyhwuhm obviously13:19
smartboyhwIt's still included...13:19
smartboyhwWell, with another filename though:P13:19
yofelis it?13:20
* yofel testbuilds13:20
smartboyhwyofel, 13:21
smartboyhwcp: cannot stat 'debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/amarok_context_applet_analyzer.so': No such file or directory13:21
smartboyhwWithout the "spectrum"13:21
smartboyhwDamnitr13:21
yofelah13:22
* smartboyhw adds it13:22
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel please check on kubuntu-packaging/amarok branch13:29
Riddellsmartboyhw: ifeq (,$filter armel armhf,$(DEB_HOST_ARCH)))13:32
Riddellshouldn't htat be ifneq?13:32
smartboyhwRiddell, you gave me http://paste.kde.org/pece4cf60/13:32
smartboyhwOh wait, I forgot to endif though13:33
Riddellsmartboyhw: well did you compile it to check?13:33
Riddelldoes usr/lib/kde4/amarok_data_engine_spectrum_analyzer.so not exist? if not remove it the comment from the .install file13:33
yofelifeq is correct13:34
smartboyhwRiddell, it exists, but not for armhf13:34
Riddellsmartboyhw: keeping that indentation would be good13:34
smartboyhwSince there is NO libopengl for armhf13:34
* smartboyhw hates indentation:(13:34
Riddellsmartboyhw: so shouldn't it be in debian/rules?13:34
yofelsmartboyhw: make is very particular about indentation13:34
smartboyhwRiddell, ah, you mean that13:34
yofeland correct type of indentation13:35
yofelwhat you did is invalid btw.13:35
smartboyhwyofel, oh?13:35
smartboyhwRiddell, with spectrum not13:36
yofelifeq/endif mustn't be indented13:36
smartboyhwyofel, OK, fixing...13:36
yofeland indentation needs to be exactly one tab13:36
yofelno spaces13:36
smartboyhwyofel, check current branch?13:38
yofelsmartboyhw: for reference http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Rule-Syntax13:38
* smartboyhw adds another doc to TOREAD13:39
yofelthe full make manual is LONG, no need to read everything. But the basics are mandatory13:39
smartboyhwyofel, the basics = everything....13:40
yofelsmartboyhw: yeah, that should work now13:40
yofeldoes it build?13:41
smartboyhwyofel, running debuild -j4 here13:41
yofel:)13:41
smartboyhwI WANT A -j8!!!!!13:41
yofelget yourself another PC and use icecc13:42
yofelnot that it works here13:42
Riddellor one of the expensive ec2s13:42
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell NO MONEY13:43
yofelccache would be an idea too, but that's been pretty unreliable for me lately so I'm not using it anymore13:44
Riddellsmartboyhw: you can ask me to set them up, but it takes some time to set up so no great advantage in this case13:44
smartboyhwRiddell, you testbuilding in a armhf would be good;P13:45
Riddellalas I don't have one of those today13:46
Riddelland I couldn't work out how to get NAT working on my modem so I can't make one available :(13:47
smartboyhwRiddell, .............................13:47
yofelScott's builders work again, but I'm on the wrong notebook here13:48
smartboyhwThat's a full MEH13:49
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell it at least builds.....14:04
smartboyhwyofel, Riddell so, you guys can upload the fix from kubuntu-packaging branch now I think14:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: you think? did you compile it?14:18
* shadeslayer is having crappy monitor issues14:18
smartboyhwRiddell, yes14:18
smartboyhwcompiled14:18
shadeslayerI think the cable is frayed a bit too much14:18
smartboyhwshadeslayer, oh14:18
Riddellhmm there's a dozen ec2 volumes that have been running for months costing us money, I'll delete them14:21
shadeslayerO_O14:21
smartboyhwo-o14:22
shadeslayerRiddell: you should have a script that runs every night at 00:00 hours that shuts down ec2 isntances14:23
Riddellshadeslayer: well volumes not instances14:23
shadeslayeroh14:23
RiddellI'm not quite sure what a volume is14:23
Riddellor why they hang around when I never explicitly started them14:24
smartboyhwO-O14:24
RiddellI think I did have one to kill instances and it killed the one you were running so I stopped it14:24
shadeslayeroh heh14:24
Riddellshadeslayer: are these neon kvms still used?14:24
shadeslayerI am unsure, if they cost too much we can kill those IMHO14:25
Riddellshadeslayer: they don't cost much but I'll delete ones from last year14:27
* Riddell deletes 100 kvm things14:27
shadeslayersure14:28
shadeslayerIMHO you can delete upto this month14:28
Riddellsmartboyhw: uploaded!14:31
Riddellsmartboyhw: are you able to backport to raring and precise now or shall I do it?14:31
shadeslayerScottK: no ktp review? :(14:32
Riddellshadeslayer: what needs reviewed?14:33
smartboyhwRiddell, you:P14:33
shadeslayerRiddell: ktp 0.6.3 in raring unapproved queue14:33
shadeslayerme and smartboyhw SRU'd it14:33
smartboyhwREMINDER: Kubuntu 12.04.3 is NEXT WEEK14:33
Riddellah, SRU14:34
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas| 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | Kubuntu 12.04.3 is on coming Thursday
* smartboyhw is a bit tired...14:36
Riddellhmm, amarok wants libtag 1.914:37
Riddellbut there's no such thing on http://taglib.github.io/14:38
tester56there is a bug in the unetbootin package in saucy14:47
tester56when launching it asks for the password but it fails unlocking (says wrong password)14:48
tester56launching as root from terminal works though14:48
shadeslayerreport it?14:48
shadeslayernot something we can fix tbh14:48
tester56gksu is such an unnecessary dependency in a kde environment 14:49
Riddell+find_package( Qt4 4.8.3 COMPONENTS QtCore QtGui QtScript QtSvg QtXml QtWebKit REQUIRED )14:55
Riddellwaa amarok has updated to qt 4.8.3, so can't backport precise without that14:55
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah:(15:00
shadeslayerDon't we have qt 4.8.4 for precise?15:02
shadeslayerin the backports PPA15:02
smartboyhwshadeslayer, oh!?15:02
smartboyhwYEAH!15:03
smartboyhwRiddell, ^15:03
Riddellno it has 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa515:03
Riddellbut it's fine they only bumped to 4.8.3 for the qtscript breakage which we patch for15:04
smartboyhwRiddell, great15:04
Riddellhow's this? kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.815:33
Riddellhttps://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.815:33
Riddellbesides having a massing 1000px wide image15:33
* smartboyhw is checking15:33
Riddellrshort: any sign of tariq today? he was due to e-mail me15:36
yofelfixed a ppa name, otherwise good15:36
* smartboyhw needs to add a dot;P15:37
smartboyhwAnd actually, 12.04 LTS , not 12.04LTS:P15:37
smartboyhwRiddell, OK here15:38
rshortRiddell, He's here just been on the phone all day he says Vinay's been working on the checkout15:38
Riddellrshort: tell vinay he's welcome in here if he wants me to test it15:43
Riddellvinay!15:51
Riddellhow's the checkout going?15:51
smartboyhwmarkey, we are ready for Amarok 2.8 release:)15:52
markeyexcellent :)15:53
Riddellsmartboyhw: have they both compiled in the backports?15:55
smartboyhwRiddell, raring publishing15:55
smartboyhwPrecise probably not yet though, it builds at least:P15:55
smartboyhwActually, even precise finished15:56
vinay_Hi Riddell, checkout's going fine, just finishing up on a few little things15:56
smartboyhwBoth waiting for publishing15:56
Riddellvinay_: let me know if it's ready for proofreading or testing15:58
vinay_will do15:59
TheOneRinghm I try to build kde without nepomuk, and  then i dont need soprano but if i try to build akonadi I get16:05
TheOneRing-- The following REQUIRED packages have not been found:16:05
TheOneRing * Soprano , Storage of semantic data , <http://soprano.sourceforge.net>16:05
TheOneRing   Soprano is needed for the Nepomuk search backend16:05
TheOneRingwhich doesnt make that much sence?16:05
vHandatrue. Akonadi should be made to work with Soprano16:06
vHandait's probably very simple16:06
vHandaI just checked, and you can mark it as optional and it should compile16:07
vHandaTheOneRing: change Soprano from REQUIRED to OPTIONAL16:08
TheOneRingkk16:08
vHandaahh! If you have Strigi installed then Soprano is optional otherwise it is required. Because without either of them you will not have search16:08
vHandaline 34 CMakeLists16:09
Riddellsigh, pinentry has spontaniously stopped working for me with gpg :(16:30
contrastGreetings. :) Sorry to bug you all, but I just saw Amarok 2.8 has been backported to Precise and Raring, but not Quantal. Any hopes of that happening if I test the packages (since this was the only thing initially holding back KDE 4.11 on Quantal)?16:58
shadeslayercontrast: probably17:02
contrastOk... So should I just keep an eye on the Staging PPA like before, or..?17:04
Riddellhum, ok so there's 1 user on quantal who wants backports :)17:25
contrastRiddell: Well, there's me and the ~half a dozen friends/family members whose systems I support. ;)17:31
Riddelloh ok ok I'll do it17:32
Riddelljust cos it's you :)17:32
contrasthaha Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. :)17:32
contrastI don't want to raise a stink or anything -- I get that Quantal users are probably a near-negligible minority. It's just that it's hard for me to justify upgrading to Raring given it will stop being supported before the next LTS release comes out. :\17:34
Peace-mmm what is this ? http://paste.opensuse.org/1637384618:50
markeyRiddell: folks: Amarok 2.8 is officially released :)20:14
markeyfeel free to publish your news item20:14
yofel\o/20:14
markeyand a huge Thank You to you for your timely packaging and the great distro you provide!20:14
markeyit's the best I could wish for20:14
ScottKshadeslayer: We don't have an MRE for KTP, do we?21:48
mtuhi ppl. the 4.11 quantal backports PPA upgrade has totally fried my KDE4, as in it won't start. i see "no DBUS session-bus" in kdmlog. i cannot even startx into it, even though the X server is fine (no errors).22:41
mtuany thoughts on debugging?22:41
* Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.822:57

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