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cyphermoxRobru: everything is going well?00:04
robrucyphermox, poppler failed due to source package name / launchpad project name mismatch. I proposed a branch to fix ti00:04
robrucyphermox, but we don't have CI on it, so I'm just gonna merge it manually.00:05
robrucyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/poppler-qml-plugin/source-package/+merge/180443 trivial if you wanna look00:05
cyphermoxSure hold on while I get my laptop00:07
robrucyphermox, k, but I gotta run soon (just waiting for my ride to pick me up)00:07
robrucyphermox, my ride's here, it's just a 2-line trivial rename though ;-)00:10
robrugonna merge it00:10
cyphermoxok00:10
cyphermoxyeah that's good00:10
cyphermoxyou could have left the binary name as it was00:10
cyphermoxbut in reality it doesn't matter00:11
cyphermoxanything I need to look at ?00:11
robrucyphermox, no, I did leave the binary name. only source name and changelog changed00:11
cyphermoxindeed, I just saw wrong00:11
robrucyphermox, i think indicators might need a manual publish (it was yellow, didn't have time to look). of course unity has ongoing issues I don't know much about00:11
cyphermoxok, I'll take a look00:11
robrucyphermox, I'll be back in a few hours, wouldn't mind talking more about this stuff00:11
cyphermoxok00:12
cyphermoxI'll be on an off for the next few hours still, at an outdoor show on 3G ;)00:12
robrunice. cya!00:12
cyphermox;)00:12
cyphermoxrobru: I published the indicators00:21
cyphermoxbbl00:21
robrucyphermox, just got back.03:25
robrucyphermox, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-sdk-head-3.0publish/160/artifact/packaging_changes_poppler-qml-plugin_0.1.1+13.10.20130816-0ubuntu1.diff I guess we need didrocks for this03:26
robrucyphermox, I know today was a holiday in france but did didrocks take friday off too? we might need to find a different archive admin...03:49
TheMusorobru: You could check the calendar...03:53
robruTheMuso, I *could*, but I'm away from home at the moment and I forgot to bring my yubikey with me, so I'm locked out of a lot of canonical internal sites at the moment.03:54
Mirvcyphermox / robru: I had added a big note on the status page about the -intel downtime, removed it now as everything on the machine seems ok again?03:54
robruMirv, yay? I'm not familiar with the issue ;-)03:55
Mirvrobru: the one I e-mailed about?03:55
Mirvthe QA team then had reported after I had left that the intel machine was brought back online, seems ok now03:56
robruMirv, right, you emailed that it was down.03:56
robruok03:56
robrugood then.03:56
Mirvrobru: is the status page otherwise up-to-date, I don't see any notes on the Apps even though it's not publishing successfully? has someone been contacted or something about its failures?03:56
Mirvrobru: so this https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc#gid=3 page was the one that needs to be always updated to reflect what's the status of the stacks03:57
robruMirv, I dunno, I updated it recently, but seeing as it runs every 4 hours there's likely some new problem not on there yet03:57
Mirvrobru: the Apps seems to have failed for the last four runs, though03:58
robruMirv, well, I'm sorry, but I missed that one03:59
Mirvrobru: ok, I'll look at it, seems like new packages being installed ie. needs cupstream2distro-config changes03:59
Mirvrobru: we'll just need to have the hangout like sil2100 suggested so that you'll get some of the routine we've been having when the builds always happened in the UTC morning :)04:01
Mirvcyphermox or kenvandine as well, the Apps should have been caught by all04:02
robruMirv, hehe, to be honest, jenkins has trained me to ignore the first red thing in a list of status dots, because it's usually just the "head" job that doesn't provide any useful info about the failures of the subjobs. so I totally didn't notice at all that it was a real job that was really failing.04:14
robruMirv, I'll try to keep a better eye on it. definitely looking forward to learning more about this stuff, because having responsibility for the whole thing is a lot more work than just waking up and poking at friends/webapps once per day.04:15
Mirvrobru: yeah, the head job doesn't tell much but it tells that there's something beneath it failing. in essence now it has recently been changed so that if on the front page there's anything non-green, there's a problem.04:18
Mirvrobru: yeah, lots of new things to learn, including what I did learn after the intel machine went down yesterday and at least I had a chaos in trying to resolve it if no-one else :)04:19
Mirvin the end when remote power cycling didn't work it was clear that it needs to be resolved physically at the location04:20
robruMirv, but what I mean is that if you look at this page: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity8/ the very first red dot is just the "head" job, clicking on it doesn't tell you anything useful. so you have to look for the lower red dots, which provide useful error messages. but on this page: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/All/ the first dot is red also, but it's not a "head" job, it's a real job that04:21
robruneeds to be paid attention to.04:21
robruMirv, so I used to just have bookmarks that went directly to the friends/webapps pages, and I got in the habit of just outright ignoring that first "head" job, because it never says anything useful about what failed.04:22
cyphermoxrobru: re preNEW, just ping somebody in #ubuntu-release04:23
Mirvrobru: it doesn't say but it says that something below has failed. so for example http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/ now shows that Apps, SDK, Unity and Unity8 have an issue04:23
cyphermoxwhatever that's supposed to be... it's likely just didrocks magic archive machine rsync thingamajig so that things get synced04:23
Mirvrobru: Apps has missing packages (if you click at the check job, then the latest 208 from the left, then the "1028" in the middle, then the "autopilot-intel", and then the "Console" from the left and scroll to bottom04:24
Mirvrobru: the key is to click click click far enough the chain and try to understand the messy UI of Jenkins. eventually it makes sense.04:24
robruMirv, yes, exactly. so when i see that first red dot, I instinctually just look below for what is really failing, thus ignoring the first red dot. so i've been ignoring the app stack.04:24
Mirvcyphermox: do you know how to get ^ from eg. Apps failure to the core of the problem ("E: The following additional packages will be installed:")?04:25
cyphermoxyes04:25
cyphermoxare you asking how or asking if I know?04:25
Mirvcyphermox: asking if you know, just because I don't know what you know, plus Apps stack wasn't acted upon with its failing to release04:26
cyphermoxthings fail to release all the time. Issues happen. It probably just slipped by within all the similar-looking autopilot job tabs in my browser04:28
MirvUnity and Unity8 have also been failing for the last 14 hours after the intel got fixed04:28
cyphermoxyes04:28
Mirvcyphermox: yeah, on the cu2d page we should have all green or otherwise update the status page to reflect what's wrong and being done04:28
cyphermoxtests are failing, I notified Saviq about unity8, turned out to be something missing from unity04:28
cyphermoxthen I'm guessing the unity tests failed as well which prevented release04:29
Mirvthe unity is failing now even more badly after there was some fix in there, it seems04:29
cyphermoxright04:29
Mirvthose are now somehow interdependent and both failing, I'll ping Saviq today on trying to resolve that04:29
robruMirv, i have no clue about unity stuff. I got the impression that sil was working on that.04:29
MirvApps is really just about new package dependencies so needs a config change04:29
cyphermoxlet bregma know too04:29
Mirvrobru: yeah the new rule is, as talked on tuesday, that everyone will take care of all stacks on their "shift". so I'll check stuff first in the new day and then sil2100 wakes a couple of hours later and joins the effort.04:30
Mirvcyphermox: ok, I'll04:30
cyphermoxhe's the contact for Unity04:31
Mirvmhr3 added something in lp:unity to fix lp:unity8 yesterday, and now there are 170 failing tests in unity :P04:32
cyphermoxseems like this might be some bamf fun perhaps, kind of like for the indicators </uneducated guess>04:32
cyphermoxMirv: however, perhaps key to this is that we shouldn't be fighting everything to fix them ourselves -- I think everyone has other tasks too04:33
Mirvcyphermox / robru: did you talk about the poppler-qml-plugin and publishing it?04:33
cyphermoxthat's why we have the contacts for every stack to prod at until things get resolved04:33
cyphermoxMirv: yes04:34
Mirvthere was some whitelist didier used to add new source package to?04:34
cyphermoxrobru will ping the archive admins I guess?04:34
cyphermoxthere is04:34
Mirvyeah, it'd be nice to get documented where it is and who can access it, since eventually didrocks will be on holiday as well04:34
Mirvso I won't publish SDK stack until that's resolved04:34
cyphermoxrobru: unless you're about to leave, in which case Mirv could do it04:34
cyphermoxMirv: it's already documented, in theory04:35
cyphermoxonly accessible by archive admins04:35
robrucyphermox / Mirv: actually I'm on my way to bed. can one of you ping an archive admin for preNEWing?04:35
Mirvcyphermox: ok, so it's not part of the cu2d system? that's good news actually.04:35
cyphermoxcjwatson possibly knows about it04:35
Mirvok, I'll, shouldn't you both be in bed? :)04:35
cyphermoxMirv: no, not part of the cu2d system per se, it's all on the archive machine04:35
cyphermoxyes, definitely04:36
cyphermoxit's Friday here now04:36
cyphermoxpast midnight ;)04:36
robru10:30 PM here, yah. time for bed ;-)04:36
Mirv07:36am, past midnight as well, just had sleep in between :)04:36
robruMirv, cyphermox: ok, goodnight.04:37
Mirvgoodnight04:38
* cyphermox signs off too04:39
cyphermoxbetter get some sleep before attacking bluetooth and finishing my NM dbus hack tomrrow ;)04:39
cyphermoxMirv: have a good day04:40
Mirvthanks!04:41
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seb128good morning desktopers07:06
Mirvgood morning seb12807:08
seb128hey Mirv, how are things?07:08
Mirvseb128: yesterday was pretty bad as dx-autopilot-intel broke and I was alone, but it got resolved in the evening :)07:10
seb128Mirv, yeah, I saw your email on the list :/07:10
Mirveven remote power switching (which I learned via veebers) didn't help so rfowler needed to physically access the machine07:10
Mirvnow I guess it's relatively ok, Unity & Unity8 having problems and they're being looked into (at least unity8 one)07:11
Mirvmorning sil210007:21
asacok ... online accounts is screwed here :)08:06
* asac dist-upgrades08:06
seb128dpm, hey08:11
seb128dpm, how are you?08:11
seb128dpm, do you know what "Automated Suggestions" are on lp translations?08:12
sil2100Mirv: morning!08:15
sil2100Mirv: as for Apps - I see new dependencies of the stack, do you have a branch for that or can I push one?08:19
Mirvsil2100: yes, like it says in the status, "cu2d-config change pending approval" -> https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/apps_add_new_packages/+merge/18047208:23
sil2100Mirv: approved, I'll redeploy the stack so that you don't waste your time ;)08:25
Mirvsil2100: ok, feel free, thanks!08:25
dpmmorning seb128. Do you have a link to a page showing that? What we have in LP is "global suggestions" (although I think we only name them as "suggestions"). LP scans all projects it has registered and if there is an original string matching the one of the project you're looking at, it shows all translations coming from other projects as suggestions. Is this what you were looking at?08:32
seb128dpm, no, we were looking at the packaging guide with dholbach and some of the strings have automated suggestions, which seems weird08:33
seb128let me find an example08:33
seb128dpm, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fr/26/+translate08:34
seb128" Used in po-ubuntu-packaging-guide in Automated Suggestions for the Packaging Guide trunk by Pierre Slamich on 2013-01-05 "08:34
seb128dpm, those strings are fairly specific, I would be surprised if they were shared by other projects08:35
dpmseb128, ah, that's got nothing to do with LP, "Automated Suggestions" is a project Pierre Slamich created for the French team.08:35
seb128crazy man ;-)08:35
dpm:-)08:36
dpm"Automated Suggestions" is simply the name of the project that particular suggestion is coming from. A bit confusing, yeah :)08:36
seb128I see, just found some emails on the french list about that08:37
dpmhe created it to be able to use global suggestions from there for other projects, especially for the package descriptions08:37
dpmok, cool08:37
seb128dpm, thanks for the replies ;-)08:37
dpmyw ;)08:38
seb128ok, I'm going to be out for the rest of the day, taking the day off, if you need anything drop me an email though, I'm probably going to check those in the end of the afternoon in case08:47
seb128good friday everyone08:48
seb128see you on monday08:48
Mirvgood day to you, seb12808:48
seb128thanks! ;-)08:49
sil2100Oh noes!08:53
sil2100With seb gone, who will we ping about archive-related things?08:53
Mirvsil2100: we improvise, look at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members08:55
Laney#ubuntu-release08:55
Laneyor any developer08:55
Laneyor the sponsoring queue08:55
chrisccoulsonhappy friday!09:18
sil2100Mirv: indicators finished \o/ But we need an archive admin to ACK09:40
Mirvsil2100: ok, handling09:42
sil2100Mirv: I'm also poking someone09:43
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sil2100Eeeek09:55
dpmhi Laney, are the the language and timezone settings supposed to work in the settings app, or are they just placeholders? I'm testing them on yesterday's image and they offer a selection of languages/countries, but I can't select any of them10:05
Laneydpm: broken on the touch images because we don't have policykit there yet :|10:05
Laneywell, I don't know about language (guessing someone else did that while I've been away) but that is true for tz10:05
Laneyshould work on the desktop10:05
dpmLaney, ah, ok, no worries, I was just curious. Any ideas when policykit will land on the images?10:06
Laneyno, I heard it relies on lightdm doing something10:06
dpmok, thanks10:09
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Mirvsil2100: wow, unity-webapps-qml ready for publishing?11:12
Mirvbesides an ack11:12
sil2100hmm, don't remember doing much with it recently11:13
sil2100Mirv: I see robru worked on it \o/11:13
Mirvsil2100: it was supposed to be disabled so maybe re-enabled again?11:14
sil2100Mirv: well, the tests pass so it seems the bugs got fixed finally11:14
sil2100Mirv: and robru re-enabled it11:14
Mirvsil2100: right, that's awesome11:14
sil2100https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-webapps-qml/+bug/121135211:14
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1211352 in unity-webapps-qml (Ubuntu) "Could not create desktop file" [Undecided,New]11:14
Mirvrobru: you rock!11:14
sil2100Mirv: so let's get some core-dev's looking at the diff!11:14
sil2100I'll take that11:15
Mirvsil2100: feel free :)11:15
sil2100cyphermox: hi! As for unity-mir, since I see you added a bootstrapping changelog entry, let's maybe wait with daily-releasing it until they have integration tests, what do you think?11:20
sil2100cyphermox: (wrote you an e-mail about it)11:28
sil2100cyphermox: and please use the spreadsheet to indicate on what you are working on and looking what is being worked on as well!11:31
sil2100cyphermox: since due to timezone differences this is the only way we can synchronize11:32
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sil2100Mirv: publishing webapps11:53
Mirvsil2100: \o/11:54
sil2100Mirv: hmm, I think we need to re-run Apps stack, since the check job had problems with the container11:57
sil2100(we still have some time till next release I think)11:57
sil2100Mirv: I'll do that once unity finishes11:57
Mirvsil2100: ok, so it seems. depends on how long unity takes, but maybe there'd be time after that.11:58
Mirvunity i386 is still building, so it'll be quite near 2pm run before the check will be ready11:59
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Riddellwhat's the current user setup tool in ubuntu desktop?12:19
MirvRiddell: seems to be 'gnome-control-center user-accounts'12:44
Riddellthanks12:44
sil2100Mirv: ok, so let's wait for the next run to kick Apps properly12:46
Mirvsil2100: yeah, it's going to be tough call for even the unity to finish. started 24minutes ago12:47
sil2100kenvandine: hello!13:05
sil2100kenvandine: I know you're *very* busy recently, but I wonder if you could sponsor/NEW a new package for me? Since I can't catch any other MOTU guys that could do that13:06
sil2100kenvandine: it's about mediascanner - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1212993 <- we'll be daily-releasing it later, but now we want to get it in at least13:07
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1212993 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Mediascanner" [Undecided,New]13:07
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Mirvsil2100: just checked it still - urgent, unity ready, needs two acks13:35
Mirvhttp://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_libunity_7.0.11+13.10.20130816.2-0ubuntu1.diff + http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_nux_4.0.2+13.10.20130816.2-0ubuntu1.diff13:35
sil2100Awesome!13:35
sil2100kenvandine: ping ^ !13:35
sil2100Mirv: the nux change is OK, as it has been already approved by Didier13:36
sil2100Mirv: (we actualy thought it was already released)13:36
sil2100Mirv: we need to find someone to ACK the libunity part, let me find someone13:36
sil2100kenvandine, cyphermox: can anyone of you ACK the libunity packaging change for daily-release?13:37
Mirvsil2100: I can see that, the commit with the packaging change is directly approved by Didier13:37
Mirvso that's ok13:37
Mirvsil2100: ok, hopefully you can -P during the next 20mins, I'm off but wishing to see green unity soon :)13:41
sil2100Ogra +1'ed, so I publish!13:42
Mirvsil2100: great!13:43
sil2100Without didrocks and seb128 it's really difficult ;)13:44
* sil2100 wants to become a core-dev finally13:44
kenvandinesil2100, Mirv: looking14:00
kenvandineah, looks like someone published it :)14:01
sil2100kenvandine: yes, it was a crazy ride ;p14:01
sil2100kenvandine: since we needed it before last tick14:02
kenvandinei see sdk and indicators need publishing too14:02
kenvandinesil2100, indicators stack says it's blocked on failing tests, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore14:04
kenvandinepackaging changes14:04
sil2100kenvandine: ouch! Indicators we didn't want to publish ;/14:07
kenvandineok, i won't then14:07
sil2100kenvandine: the reason is:14:07
sil2100kenvandine: we already have the same fix published14:07
sil2100kenvandine: so it's an invalid publish attempt due to the socket not syncing in time14:07
sil2100kenvandine: since we published the fixed libusermetrics a few minutes before the release start, and even though it got released, when indicators fired up it wasn't still visible in the archive14:08
sil2100kenvandine: ;p14:08
sil2100kenvandine: because it was a very important fix we wanted it out to unblock other stacks before the next tick14:08
kenvandineok, can you update the spreadsheet?14:09
sil2100kenvandine: it should go green during this run so no problem \o/14:09
kenvandinethe reason on there now is clearly outdated :)14:09
sil2100kenvandine: ah, you were looking at raring14:09
kenvandineoh14:09
kenvandinewhoops :)14:09
sil2100kenvandine: saucy is more to the up, and it's mentioned in the second column I think?14:09
kenvandinei didn't realize that was a heading :)14:09
sil2100kenvandine: :D14:09
sil2100kenvandine: in the Misc issues not blocking is a comment if anything14:10
sil2100kenvandine: thanks for taking care of the stack status though!14:10
kenvandineping me if you need me, i need to try to focus on other tasks for now :)14:10
sil2100kenvandine: of course, you'll be overused since you can ACK our packaging changes ;)14:13
cyphermoxkenvandine: sil2100: ok to publish misc?14:47
sil2100cyphermox: it needs pre-NEWing - can you do that?14:48
cyphermoxargh, nevermind I see those are new source pacakges too14:48
cyphermoxno, I can't14:48
sil2100Without didrocks it's so much troublesome!14:49
cyphermoxbut I'll look up the info on how to do it, and ping an archive admin14:49
sil2100kenvandine: can you do a packaging review for me? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity-scope-mediascanner/packaging_review/+merge/18059315:18
sil2100kenvandine, cyphermox: we need one of you to ACK https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity-scope-mediascanner/packaging_review/+merge/180593 as well15:21
sil2100Could you?15:21
cyphermoxsure15:23
sil2100Thank you!15:25
cyphermoxsil2100: can you just finish checking unity-mir and approve https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/cupstream2distro-config/unity-mir_daily/+merge/180594  ?15:27
sil2100cyphermox: did you get my e-mail? I was wondering if maybe we could wait till Tuesday for integration tests15:29
sil2100cyphermox: since greyback said he'll be working on those next week15:29
sil2100cyphermox: I'm always a bit reluctant about components with no testing at all15:30
sil2100cyphermox: my idea was to maybe wait till Tuesday if the tests are done, if not - we forcefully add it to the stack, since FF is near - but there is chance there will be some by that time already15:30
cyphermoxsil2100: it has unit tests15:37
cyphermoxsome stuff does need to land, ask sergiusens if it's rush15:37
cyphermoxyou can ask in #ubuntu-touch15:37
sil2100cyphermox: I know, but still didrocks recommendation was to not daily-release without integration tests if those make sense and are possible to do - greyback says those need some work, but maybe it would be possible to do some basic ones till Thuesday15:39
sil2100But I'll poke him about severity15:40
greybacksil2100: severity?15:40
cyphermoxgreyback: how badly sergiusens and others need unity-mir to land before Tuesday15:40
greybackcyphermox: understood15:41
sil2100cyphermox: heh! Good catch with the Format field, it seems my pastebin had something different in it! Didn't notice it15:44
sil2100cyphermox: so wrong thing pasted ;)15:45
cyphermoxsil2100: also, it would be best to explicitly create debian/source/format and put 1.0 in it15:46
sil2100cyphermox: ok! Doing that too15:49
sil2100cyphermox: pushed15:49
sil2100cyphermox: fixed all the issues, I'll merge it in now (since it's anyway no-auto-merger)15:55
cyphermoxack15:58
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sil2100cyphermox: can you ACK packaging changes for gallery-app? http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_gallery-app_0.0.67+13.10.20130816.3-0ubuntu1.diff16:19
sil2100cyphermox: it's missing the deps-addition changelog entry, but that's minor16:19
Laneyit's minor each time but seems to happen every time16:20
Laneypeople need to be gotten in the habit of doing it16:20
sil2100Laney: I think an e-mail to the ML will help, but let's do that next week16:21
sil2100mterry: hi! Maybe you could ACK https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_gallery-app_0.0.67+13.10.20130816.3-0ubuntu1.diff ?16:24
sil2100Anyoneee?16:26
sil2100kenvandine: maybe you could? ^16:27
Laneyyou should fix that incorrect dependency instead of working around it imho16:27
sil2100Well, upstream will deal with that in the next version probably, for now as long as the core-devs are not against such a workaround, I can agree to let it publish16:28
stgrabersil2100: Laney says to give him a diff and he'll upload it (then he left the room so I can't get any more details :))16:30
sil2100No upload needed, just a ACK is enough ;) Since it's from daily-release, so I need some core-dev to ACK it so I can publish by pressing a button16:30
sil2100Laney: so, you think it's ok? ;)16:31
sil2100stgraber: can you ask him if he gives a green light for publishing that? :D16:33
LaneyI'm talking about a diff to fix libmediainfo correctly. We shouldn't be perpetuating hacks.16:35
LaneyI'm not sure I believe it though, given that libmediainfo deliberately drops that from Libs16:36
Laneyhyperair: seen that bug?16:36
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmediainfo/+bug/121256916:36
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1212569 in libmediainfo (Ubuntu) "The dev package needs a dependency to libzen-dev" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:36
sil2100Laney: I wonder then16:36
sil2100Laney: but as Olivier mentions, one package already did a workaround for that16:37
LaneyI know it might be easier to work around things but in the long term it's best to fix them properly16:37
Laneyyes, two is twice as bad :-)16:37
sil2100Laney: just saying that others also think it's an issue ;)16:37
sil2100Laney: ok, so maybe let's block Apps for now16:38
sil2100Since I will have to finish up soon16:38
Laneytechnical debt is bad16:38
sil2100Will just note it down for management what's the reason16:38
sil2100Laney: thanks for the review!16:38
mterrysil2100, I probably shouldn't ack such things anymore, I don't directly work on daily-release stuff these days16:39
sil2100mterry: I know, but all core-devs from daily-release are either busy or on holidays (didrocks and seb128)16:39
sil2100mterry: and the requirement is 'any core-dev' ;)16:40
sil2100Laney: if you fix the libmediainfo bit, could you mark the bug as fixed then?16:40
Laneyit will be closed properly16:40
sil2100Laney: we'll poke upstream on Monday then to remove the workaround16:40
sil2100Thank you16:41
LaneyI pinged hyperair who is the maintainer16:41
Laneygot to pay attention at debconf now16:41
Laneysee you16:41
robruMirv, thanks. good morning! EOD yet? still have time to talk about daily release stuff with me?16:45
robrusil2100, good morning! good holiday?16:52
cyphermoxsil2100: btw, I am core dev.17:10
cyphermoxyou guys are still mixing up core dev and archive admin ;)17:10
cyphermoxhowever, I agree with Laney we shouldn't perpetuate hacks17:14
sil2100cyphermox: I know ;) I used that by accident when doing many things at once!17:34
sil2100robru: hello! Weekend was cool, but today - busy as hell ;)17:34
sil2100robru: since I didn't even eat properly today, let's 'hook up' on Monday, ok? ;)17:34
robrusil2100, haha, ok. monday's good17:35
sil2100robru: remember to check the spreadsheet for info on stack statuses17:35
robrusil2100, oh, but I should mention I will not be available on tuesday, due to being on a train all day.17:35
sil2100robru: ok, no problem ;)17:35
robruyeah17:35
sil2100Have a nice weekend! (after work)17:35
sil2100See you guys17:35
hyperairLaney: i see it now.19:15
cyphermoxkenvandine: robru: I'll publish ClickPackages now, seems all good to go19:50
kenvandinecyphermox, thx19:52
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doomlordanyone around who knows their way around compiz plugin source22:45

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