[00:04] <cyphermox> Robru: everything is going well?
[00:04] <robru> cyphermox, poppler failed due to source package name / launchpad project name mismatch. I proposed a branch to fix ti
[00:05] <robru> cyphermox, but we don't have CI on it, so I'm just gonna merge it manually.
[00:05] <robru> cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/poppler-qml-plugin/source-package/+merge/180443 trivial if you wanna look
[00:07] <cyphermox> Sure hold on while I get my laptop
[00:07] <robru> cyphermox, k, but I gotta run soon (just waiting for my ride to pick me up)
[00:10] <robru> cyphermox, my ride's here, it's just a 2-line trivial rename though ;-)
[00:10] <robru> gonna merge it
[00:10] <cyphermox> ok
[00:10] <cyphermox> yeah that's good
[00:10] <cyphermox> you could have left the binary name as it was
[00:11] <cyphermox> but in reality it doesn't matter
[00:11] <cyphermox> anything I need to look at ?
[00:11] <robru> cyphermox, no, I did leave the binary name. only source name and changelog changed
[00:11] <cyphermox> indeed, I just saw wrong
[00:11] <robru> cyphermox, i think indicators might need a manual publish (it was yellow, didn't have time to look). of course unity has ongoing issues I don't know much about
[00:11] <cyphermox> ok, I'll take a look
[00:11] <robru> cyphermox, I'll be back in a few hours, wouldn't mind talking more about this stuff
[00:12] <cyphermox> ok
[00:12] <cyphermox> I'll be on an off for the next few hours still, at an outdoor show on 3G ;)
[00:12] <robru> nice. cya!
[00:12] <cyphermox> ;)
[00:21] <cyphermox> robru: I published the indicators
[00:21] <cyphermox> bbl
[03:25] <robru> cyphermox, just got back.
[03:26] <robru> cyphermox, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-sdk-head-3.0publish/160/artifact/packaging_changes_poppler-qml-plugin_0.1.1+13.10.20130816-0ubuntu1.diff I guess we need didrocks for this
[03:49] <robru> cyphermox, I know today was a holiday in france but did didrocks take friday off too? we might need to find a different archive admin...
[03:53] <TheMuso> robru: You could check the calendar...
[03:54] <robru> TheMuso, I *could*, but I'm away from home at the moment and I forgot to bring my yubikey with me, so I'm locked out of a lot of canonical internal sites at the moment.
[03:54] <Mirv> cyphermox / robru: I had added a big note on the status page about the -intel downtime, removed it now as everything on the machine seems ok again?
[03:55] <robru> Mirv, yay? I'm not familiar with the issue ;-)
[03:55] <Mirv> robru: the one I e-mailed about?
[03:56] <Mirv> the QA team then had reported after I had left that the intel machine was brought back online, seems ok now
[03:56] <robru> Mirv, right, you emailed that it was down.
[03:56] <robru> ok
[03:56] <robru> good then.
[03:56] <Mirv> robru: is the status page otherwise up-to-date, I don't see any notes on the Apps even though it's not publishing successfully? has someone been contacted or something about its failures?
[03:57] <Mirv> robru: so this https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc#gid=3 page was the one that needs to be always updated to reflect what's the status of the stacks
[03:57] <robru> Mirv, I dunno, I updated it recently, but seeing as it runs every 4 hours there's likely some new problem not on there yet
[03:58] <Mirv> robru: the Apps seems to have failed for the last four runs, though
[03:59] <robru> Mirv, well, I'm sorry, but I missed that one
[03:59] <Mirv> robru: ok, I'll look at it, seems like new packages being installed ie. needs cupstream2distro-config changes
[04:01] <Mirv> robru: we'll just need to have the hangout like sil2100 suggested so that you'll get some of the routine we've been having when the builds always happened in the UTC morning :)
[04:02] <Mirv> cyphermox or kenvandine as well, the Apps should have been caught by all
[04:14] <robru> Mirv, hehe, to be honest, jenkins has trained me to ignore the first red thing in a list of status dots, because it's usually just the "head" job that doesn't provide any useful info about the failures of the subjobs. so I totally didn't notice at all that it was a real job that was really failing.
[04:15] <robru> Mirv, I'll try to keep a better eye on it. definitely looking forward to learning more about this stuff, because having responsibility for the whole thing is a lot more work than just waking up and poking at friends/webapps once per day.
[04:18] <Mirv> robru: yeah, the head job doesn't tell much but it tells that there's something beneath it failing. in essence now it has recently been changed so that if on the front page there's anything non-green, there's a problem.
[04:19] <Mirv> robru: yeah, lots of new things to learn, including what I did learn after the intel machine went down yesterday and at least I had a chaos in trying to resolve it if no-one else :)
[04:20] <Mirv> in the end when remote power cycling didn't work it was clear that it needs to be resolved physically at the location
[04:21] <robru> Mirv, but what I mean is that if you look at this page: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity8/ the very first red dot is just the "head" job, clicking on it doesn't tell you anything useful. so you have to look for the lower red dots, which provide useful error messages. but on this page: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/All/ the first dot is red also, but it's not a "head" job, it's a real job that
[04:21] <robru> needs to be paid attention to.
[04:22] <robru> Mirv, so I used to just have bookmarks that went directly to the friends/webapps pages, and I got in the habit of just outright ignoring that first "head" job, because it never says anything useful about what failed.
[04:23] <cyphermox> robru: re preNEW, just ping somebody in #ubuntu-release
[04:23] <Mirv> robru: it doesn't say but it says that something below has failed. so for example http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/ now shows that Apps, SDK, Unity and Unity8 have an issue
[04:23] <cyphermox> whatever that's supposed to be... it's likely just didrocks magic archive machine rsync thingamajig so that things get synced
[04:24] <Mirv> robru: Apps has missing packages (if you click at the check job, then the latest 208 from the left, then the "1028" in the middle, then the "autopilot-intel", and then the "Console" from the left and scroll to bottom
[04:24] <Mirv> robru: the key is to click click click far enough the chain and try to understand the messy UI of Jenkins. eventually it makes sense.
[04:24] <robru> Mirv, yes, exactly. so when i see that first red dot, I instinctually just look below for what is really failing, thus ignoring the first red dot. so i've been ignoring the app stack.
[04:25] <Mirv> cyphermox: do you know how to get ^ from eg. Apps failure to the core of the problem ("E: The following additional packages will be installed:")?
[04:25] <cyphermox> yes
[04:25] <cyphermox> are you asking how or asking if I know?
[04:26] <Mirv> cyphermox: asking if you know, just because I don't know what you know, plus Apps stack wasn't acted upon with its failing to release
[04:28] <cyphermox> things fail to release all the time. Issues happen. It probably just slipped by within all the similar-looking autopilot job tabs in my browser
[04:28] <Mirv> Unity and Unity8 have also been failing for the last 14 hours after the intel got fixed
[04:28] <cyphermox> yes
[04:28] <Mirv> cyphermox: yeah, on the cu2d page we should have all green or otherwise update the status page to reflect what's wrong and being done
[04:28] <cyphermox> tests are failing, I notified Saviq about unity8, turned out to be something missing from unity
[04:29] <cyphermox> then I'm guessing the unity tests failed as well which prevented release
[04:29] <Mirv> the unity is failing now even more badly after there was some fix in there, it seems
[04:29] <cyphermox> right
[04:29] <Mirv> those are now somehow interdependent and both failing, I'll ping Saviq today on trying to resolve that
[04:29] <robru> Mirv, i have no clue about unity stuff. I got the impression that sil was working on that.
[04:29] <Mirv> Apps is really just about new package dependencies so needs a config change
[04:29] <cyphermox> let bregma know too
[04:30] <Mirv> robru: yeah the new rule is, as talked on tuesday, that everyone will take care of all stacks on their "shift". so I'll check stuff first in the new day and then sil2100 wakes a couple of hours later and joins the effort.
[04:30] <Mirv> cyphermox: ok, I'll
[04:31] <cyphermox> he's the contact for Unity
[04:32] <Mirv> mhr3 added something in lp:unity to fix lp:unity8 yesterday, and now there are 170 failing tests in unity :P
[04:32] <cyphermox> seems like this might be some bamf fun perhaps, kind of like for the indicators </uneducated guess>
[04:33] <cyphermox> Mirv: however, perhaps key to this is that we shouldn't be fighting everything to fix them ourselves -- I think everyone has other tasks too
[04:33] <Mirv> cyphermox / robru: did you talk about the poppler-qml-plugin and publishing it?
[04:33] <cyphermox> that's why we have the contacts for every stack to prod at until things get resolved
[04:34] <cyphermox> Mirv: yes
[04:34] <Mirv> there was some whitelist didier used to add new source package to?
[04:34] <cyphermox> robru will ping the archive admins I guess?
[04:34] <cyphermox> there is
[04:34] <Mirv> yeah, it'd be nice to get documented where it is and who can access it, since eventually didrocks will be on holiday as well
[04:34] <Mirv> so I won't publish SDK stack until that's resolved
[04:34] <cyphermox> robru: unless you're about to leave, in which case Mirv could do it
[04:35] <cyphermox> Mirv: it's already documented, in theory
[04:35] <cyphermox> only accessible by archive admins
[04:35] <robru> cyphermox / Mirv: actually I'm on my way to bed. can one of you ping an archive admin for preNEWing?
[04:35] <Mirv> cyphermox: ok, so it's not part of the cu2d system? that's good news actually.
[04:35] <cyphermox> cjwatson possibly knows about it
[04:35] <Mirv> ok, I'll, shouldn't you both be in bed? :)
[04:35] <cyphermox> Mirv: no, not part of the cu2d system per se, it's all on the archive machine
[04:36] <cyphermox> yes, definitely
[04:36] <cyphermox> it's Friday here now
[04:36] <cyphermox> past midnight ;)
[04:36] <robru> 10:30 PM here, yah. time for bed ;-)
[04:36] <Mirv> 07:36am, past midnight as well, just had sleep in between :)
[04:37] <robru> Mirv, cyphermox: ok, goodnight.
[04:38] <Mirv> goodnight
[04:39]  * cyphermox signs off too
[04:39] <cyphermox> better get some sleep before attacking bluetooth and finishing my NM dbus hack tomrrow ;)
[04:40] <cyphermox> Mirv: have a good day
[04:41] <Mirv> thanks!
[07:06] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:08] <Mirv> good morning seb128
[07:08] <seb128> hey Mirv, how are things?
[07:10] <Mirv> seb128: yesterday was pretty bad as dx-autopilot-intel broke and I was alone, but it got resolved in the evening :)
[07:10] <seb128> Mirv, yeah, I saw your email on the list :/
[07:10] <Mirv> even remote power switching (which I learned via veebers) didn't help so rfowler needed to physically access the machine
[07:11] <Mirv> now I guess it's relatively ok, Unity & Unity8 having problems and they're being looked into (at least unity8 one)
[07:21] <Mirv> morning sil2100
[08:06] <asac> ok ... online accounts is screwed here :)
[08:06]  * asac dist-upgrades
[08:11] <seb128> dpm, hey
[08:11] <seb128> dpm, how are you?
[08:12] <seb128> dpm, do you know what "Automated Suggestions" are on lp translations?
[08:15] <sil2100> Mirv: morning!
[08:19] <sil2100> Mirv: as for Apps - I see new dependencies of the stack, do you have a branch for that or can I push one?
[08:23] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, like it says in the status, "cu2d-config change pending approval" -> https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/apps_add_new_packages/+merge/180472
[08:25] <sil2100> Mirv: approved, I'll redeploy the stack so that you don't waste your time ;)
[08:25] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, feel free, thanks!
[08:32] <dpm> morning seb128. Do you have a link to a page showing that? What we have in LP is "global suggestions" (although I think we only name them as "suggestions"). LP scans all projects it has registered and if there is an original string matching the one of the project you're looking at, it shows all translations coming from other projects as suggestions. Is this what you were looking at?
[08:33] <seb128> dpm, no, we were looking at the packaging guide with dholbach and some of the strings have automated suggestions, which seems weird
[08:33] <seb128> let me find an example
[08:34] <seb128> dpm, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fr/26/+translate
[08:34] <seb128> " Used in po-ubuntu-packaging-guide in Automated Suggestions for the Packaging Guide trunk by Pierre Slamich on 2013-01-05 "
[08:35] <seb128> dpm, those strings are fairly specific, I would be surprised if they were shared by other projects
[08:35] <dpm> seb128, ah, that's got nothing to do with LP, "Automated Suggestions" is a project Pierre Slamich created for the French team.
[08:35] <seb128> crazy man ;-)
[08:36] <dpm> :-)
[08:36] <dpm> "Automated Suggestions" is simply the name of the project that particular suggestion is coming from. A bit confusing, yeah :)
[08:37] <seb128> I see, just found some emails on the french list about that
[08:37] <dpm> he created it to be able to use global suggestions from there for other projects, especially for the package descriptions
[08:37] <dpm> ok, cool
[08:37] <seb128> dpm, thanks for the replies ;-)
[08:38] <dpm> yw ;)
[08:47] <seb128> ok, I'm going to be out for the rest of the day, taking the day off, if you need anything drop me an email though, I'm probably going to check those in the end of the afternoon in case
[08:48] <seb128> good friday everyone
[08:48] <seb128> see you on monday
[08:48] <Mirv> good day to you, seb128
[08:49] <seb128> thanks! ;-)
[08:53] <sil2100> Oh noes!
[08:53] <sil2100> With seb gone, who will we ping about archive-related things?
[08:55] <Mirv> sil2100: we improvise, look at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members
[08:55] <Laney> #ubuntu-release
[08:55] <Laney> or any developer
[08:55] <Laney> or the sponsoring queue
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> happy friday!
[09:40] <sil2100> Mirv: indicators finished \o/ But we need an archive admin to ACK
[09:42] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, handling
[09:43] <sil2100> Mirv: I'm also poking someone
[09:55] <sil2100> Eeeek
[10:05] <dpm> hi Laney, are the the language and timezone settings supposed to work in the settings app, or are they just placeholders? I'm testing them on yesterday's image and they offer a selection of languages/countries, but I can't select any of them
[10:05] <Laney> dpm: broken on the touch images because we don't have policykit there yet :|
[10:05] <Laney> well, I don't know about language (guessing someone else did that while I've been away) but that is true for tz
[10:05] <Laney> should work on the desktop
[10:06] <dpm> Laney, ah, ok, no worries, I was just curious. Any ideas when policykit will land on the images?
[10:06] <Laney> no, I heard it relies on lightdm doing something
[10:09] <dpm> ok, thanks
[11:12] <Mirv> sil2100: wow, unity-webapps-qml ready for publishing?
[11:12] <Mirv> besides an ack
[11:13] <sil2100> hmm, don't remember doing much with it recently
[11:13] <sil2100> Mirv: I see robru worked on it \o/
[11:14] <Mirv> sil2100: it was supposed to be disabled so maybe re-enabled again?
[11:14] <sil2100> Mirv: well, the tests pass so it seems the bugs got fixed finally
[11:14] <sil2100> Mirv: and robru re-enabled it
[11:14] <Mirv> sil2100: right, that's awesome
[11:14] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-webapps-qml/+bug/1211352
[11:14] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1211352 in unity-webapps-qml (Ubuntu) "Could not create desktop file" [Undecided,New]
[11:14] <Mirv> robru: you rock!
[11:14] <sil2100> Mirv: so let's get some core-dev's looking at the diff!
[11:15] <sil2100> I'll take that
[11:15] <Mirv> sil2100: feel free :)
[11:20] <sil2100> cyphermox: hi! As for unity-mir, since I see you added a bootstrapping changelog entry, let's maybe wait with daily-releasing it until they have integration tests, what do you think?
[11:28] <sil2100> cyphermox: (wrote you an e-mail about it)
[11:31] <sil2100> cyphermox: and please use the spreadsheet to indicate on what you are working on and looking what is being worked on as well!
[11:32] <sil2100> cyphermox: since due to timezone differences this is the only way we can synchronize
[11:53] <sil2100> Mirv: publishing webapps
[11:54] <Mirv> sil2100: \o/
[11:57] <sil2100> Mirv: hmm, I think we need to re-run Apps stack, since the check job had problems with the container
[11:57] <sil2100> (we still have some time till next release I think)
[11:57] <sil2100> Mirv: I'll do that once unity finishes
[11:58] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, so it seems. depends on how long unity takes, but maybe there'd be time after that.
[11:59] <Mirv> unity i386 is still building, so it'll be quite near 2pm run before the check will be ready
[12:19] <Riddell> what's the current user setup tool in ubuntu desktop?
[12:44] <Mirv> Riddell: seems to be 'gnome-control-center user-accounts'
[12:44] <Riddell> thanks
[12:46] <sil2100> Mirv: ok, so let's wait for the next run to kick Apps properly
[12:47] <Mirv> sil2100: yeah, it's going to be tough call for even the unity to finish. started 24minutes ago
[13:05] <sil2100> kenvandine: hello!
[13:06] <sil2100> kenvandine: I know you're *very* busy recently, but I wonder if you could sponsor/NEW a new package for me? Since I can't catch any other MOTU guys that could do that
[13:07] <sil2100> kenvandine: it's about mediascanner - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1212993 <- we'll be daily-releasing it later, but now we want to get it in at least
[13:07] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1212993 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Mediascanner" [Undecided,New]
[13:35] <Mirv> sil2100: just checked it still - urgent, unity ready, needs two acks
[13:35] <Mirv> http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_libunity_7.0.11+13.10.20130816.2-0ubuntu1.diff + http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_nux_4.0.2+13.10.20130816.2-0ubuntu1.diff
[13:35] <sil2100> Awesome!
[13:35] <sil2100> kenvandine: ping ^ !
[13:36] <sil2100> Mirv: the nux change is OK, as it has been already approved by Didier
[13:36] <sil2100> Mirv: (we actualy thought it was already released)
[13:36] <sil2100> Mirv: we need to find someone to ACK the libunity part, let me find someone
[13:37] <sil2100> kenvandine, cyphermox: can anyone of you ACK the libunity packaging change for daily-release?
[13:37] <Mirv> sil2100: I can see that, the commit with the packaging change is directly approved by Didier
[13:37] <Mirv> so that's ok
[13:41] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, hopefully you can -P during the next 20mins, I'm off but wishing to see green unity soon :)
[13:42] <sil2100> Ogra +1'ed, so I publish!
[13:43] <Mirv> sil2100: great!
[13:44] <sil2100> Without didrocks and seb128 it's really difficult ;)
[13:44]  * sil2100 wants to become a core-dev finally
[14:00] <kenvandine> sil2100, Mirv: looking
[14:01] <kenvandine> ah, looks like someone published it :)
[14:01] <sil2100> kenvandine: yes, it was a crazy ride ;p
[14:02] <sil2100> kenvandine: since we needed it before last tick
[14:02] <kenvandine> i see sdk and indicators need publishing too
[14:04] <kenvandine> sil2100, indicators stack says it's blocked on failing tests, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore
[14:04] <kenvandine> packaging changes
[14:07] <sil2100> kenvandine: ouch! Indicators we didn't want to publish ;/
[14:07] <kenvandine> ok, i won't then
[14:07] <sil2100> kenvandine: the reason is:
[14:07] <sil2100> kenvandine: we already have the same fix published
[14:07] <sil2100> kenvandine: so it's an invalid publish attempt due to the socket not syncing in time
[14:08] <sil2100> kenvandine: since we published the fixed libusermetrics a few minutes before the release start, and even though it got released, when indicators fired up it wasn't still visible in the archive
[14:08] <sil2100> kenvandine: ;p
[14:08] <sil2100> kenvandine: because it was a very important fix we wanted it out to unblock other stacks before the next tick
[14:09] <kenvandine> ok, can you update the spreadsheet?
[14:09] <sil2100> kenvandine: it should go green during this run so no problem \o/
[14:09] <kenvandine> the reason on there now is clearly outdated :)
[14:09] <sil2100> kenvandine: ah, you were looking at raring
[14:09] <kenvandine> oh
[14:09] <kenvandine> whoops :)
[14:09] <sil2100> kenvandine: saucy is more to the up, and it's mentioned in the second column I think?
[14:09] <kenvandine> i didn't realize that was a heading :)
[14:09] <sil2100> kenvandine: :D
[14:10] <sil2100> kenvandine: in the Misc issues not blocking is a comment if anything
[14:10] <sil2100> kenvandine: thanks for taking care of the stack status though!
[14:10] <kenvandine> ping me if you need me, i need to try to focus on other tasks for now :)
[14:13] <sil2100> kenvandine: of course, you'll be overused since you can ACK our packaging changes ;)
[14:47] <cyphermox> kenvandine: sil2100: ok to publish misc?
[14:48] <sil2100> cyphermox: it needs pre-NEWing - can you do that?
[14:48] <cyphermox> argh, nevermind I see those are new source pacakges too
[14:48] <cyphermox> no, I can't
[14:49] <sil2100> Without didrocks it's so much troublesome!
[14:49] <cyphermox> but I'll look up the info on how to do it, and ping an archive admin
[15:18] <sil2100> kenvandine: can you do a packaging review for me? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity-scope-mediascanner/packaging_review/+merge/180593
[15:21] <sil2100> kenvandine, cyphermox: we need one of you to ACK https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity-scope-mediascanner/packaging_review/+merge/180593 as well
[15:21] <sil2100> Could you?
[15:23] <cyphermox> sure
[15:25] <sil2100> Thank you!
[15:27] <cyphermox> sil2100: can you just finish checking unity-mir and approve https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/cupstream2distro-config/unity-mir_daily/+merge/180594  ?
[15:29] <sil2100> cyphermox: did you get my e-mail? I was wondering if maybe we could wait till Tuesday for integration tests
[15:29] <sil2100> cyphermox: since greyback said he'll be working on those next week
[15:30] <sil2100> cyphermox: I'm always a bit reluctant about components with no testing at all
[15:30] <sil2100> cyphermox: my idea was to maybe wait till Tuesday if the tests are done, if not - we forcefully add it to the stack, since FF is near - but there is chance there will be some by that time already
[15:37] <cyphermox> sil2100: it has unit tests
[15:37] <cyphermox> some stuff does need to land, ask sergiusens if it's rush
[15:37] <cyphermox> you can ask in #ubuntu-touch
[15:39] <sil2100> cyphermox: I know, but still didrocks recommendation was to not daily-release without integration tests if those make sense and are possible to do - greyback says those need some work, but maybe it would be possible to do some basic ones till Thuesday
[15:40] <sil2100> But I'll poke him about severity
[15:40] <greyback> sil2100: severity?
[15:40] <cyphermox> greyback: how badly sergiusens and others need unity-mir to land before Tuesday
[15:41] <greyback> cyphermox: understood
[15:44] <sil2100> cyphermox: heh! Good catch with the Format field, it seems my pastebin had something different in it! Didn't notice it
[15:45] <sil2100> cyphermox: so wrong thing pasted ;)
[15:46] <cyphermox> sil2100: also, it would be best to explicitly create debian/source/format and put 1.0 in it
[15:49] <sil2100> cyphermox: ok! Doing that too
[15:49] <sil2100> cyphermox: pushed
[15:55] <sil2100> cyphermox: fixed all the issues, I'll merge it in now (since it's anyway no-auto-merger)
[15:58] <cyphermox> ack
[16:19] <sil2100> cyphermox: can you ACK packaging changes for gallery-app? http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_gallery-app_0.0.67+13.10.20130816.3-0ubuntu1.diff
[16:19] <sil2100> cyphermox: it's missing the deps-addition changelog entry, but that's minor
[16:20] <Laney> it's minor each time but seems to happen every time
[16:20] <Laney> people need to be gotten in the habit of doing it
[16:21] <sil2100> Laney: I think an e-mail to the ML will help, but let's do that next week
[16:24] <sil2100> mterry: hi! Maybe you could ACK https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_gallery-app_0.0.67+13.10.20130816.3-0ubuntu1.diff ?
[16:26] <sil2100> Anyoneee?
[16:27] <sil2100> kenvandine: maybe you could? ^
[16:27] <Laney> you should fix that incorrect dependency instead of working around it imho
[16:28] <sil2100> Well, upstream will deal with that in the next version probably, for now as long as the core-devs are not against such a workaround, I can agree to let it publish
[16:30] <stgraber> sil2100: Laney says to give him a diff and he'll upload it (then he left the room so I can't get any more details :))
[16:30] <sil2100> No upload needed, just a ACK is enough ;) Since it's from daily-release, so I need some core-dev to ACK it so I can publish by pressing a button
[16:31] <sil2100> Laney: so, you think it's ok? ;)
[16:33] <sil2100> stgraber: can you ask him if he gives a green light for publishing that? :D
[16:35] <Laney> I'm talking about a diff to fix libmediainfo correctly. We shouldn't be perpetuating hacks.
[16:36] <Laney> I'm not sure I believe it though, given that libmediainfo deliberately drops that from Libs
[16:36] <Laney> hyperair: seen that bug?
[16:36] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmediainfo/+bug/1212569
[16:36] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1212569 in libmediainfo (Ubuntu) "The dev package needs a dependency to libzen-dev" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:36] <sil2100> Laney: I wonder then
[16:37] <sil2100> Laney: but as Olivier mentions, one package already did a workaround for that
[16:37] <Laney> I know it might be easier to work around things but in the long term it's best to fix them properly
[16:37] <Laney> yes, two is twice as bad :-)
[16:37] <sil2100> Laney: just saying that others also think it's an issue ;)
[16:38] <sil2100> Laney: ok, so maybe let's block Apps for now
[16:38] <sil2100> Since I will have to finish up soon
[16:38] <Laney> technical debt is bad
[16:38] <sil2100> Will just note it down for management what's the reason
[16:38] <sil2100> Laney: thanks for the review!
[16:39] <mterry> sil2100, I probably shouldn't ack such things anymore, I don't directly work on daily-release stuff these days
[16:39] <sil2100> mterry: I know, but all core-devs from daily-release are either busy or on holidays (didrocks and seb128)
[16:40] <sil2100> mterry: and the requirement is 'any core-dev' ;)
[16:40] <sil2100> Laney: if you fix the libmediainfo bit, could you mark the bug as fixed then?
[16:40] <Laney> it will be closed properly
[16:40] <sil2100> Laney: we'll poke upstream on Monday then to remove the workaround
[16:41] <sil2100> Thank you
[16:41] <Laney> I pinged hyperair who is the maintainer
[16:41] <Laney> got to pay attention at debconf now
[16:41] <Laney> see you
[16:45] <robru> Mirv, thanks. good morning! EOD yet? still have time to talk about daily release stuff with me?
[16:52] <robru> sil2100, good morning! good holiday?
[17:10] <cyphermox> sil2100: btw, I am core dev.
[17:10] <cyphermox> you guys are still mixing up core dev and archive admin ;)
[17:14] <cyphermox> however, I agree with Laney we shouldn't perpetuate hacks
[17:34] <sil2100> cyphermox: I know ;) I used that by accident when doing many things at once!
[17:34] <sil2100> robru: hello! Weekend was cool, but today - busy as hell ;)
[17:34] <sil2100> robru: since I didn't even eat properly today, let's 'hook up' on Monday, ok? ;)
[17:35] <robru> sil2100, haha, ok. monday's good
[17:35] <sil2100> robru: remember to check the spreadsheet for info on stack statuses
[17:35] <robru> sil2100, oh, but I should mention I will not be available on tuesday, due to being on a train all day.
[17:35] <sil2100> robru: ok, no problem ;)
[17:35] <robru> yeah
[17:35] <sil2100> Have a nice weekend! (after work)
[17:35] <sil2100> See you guys
[19:15] <hyperair> Laney: i see it now.
[19:50] <cyphermox> kenvandine: robru: I'll publish ClickPackages now, seems all good to go
[19:52] <kenvandine> cyphermox, thx
[22:45] <doomlord> anyone around who knows their way around compiz plugin source