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ikepanhc@pilot in04:34
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dholbachgood morning06:50
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Laneyjamespage: Can I ask you about golang in saucy? ;-)08:58
jamespageLaney, yep08:58
Laneyjamespage: OK, one second...08:59
Laneyjamespage: Right then, compile and run this please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992017/08:59
Laneyit's broken on saucy but if I rebuild the Debian package without the Ubuntu changes then it works09:00
jamespageLaney, oh - you'll love this one09:00
jamespageLaney, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=71961109:00
ubottuDebian bug 719611 in golang "golang: os/user not usable without cgo" [Normal,Open]09:00
Laneyyes I found something like this while googling09:01
jamespageand https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang/+bug/121174909:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1211749 in golang (Ubuntu Saucy) "Packge os/users incorrectly built on amd64 arch" [Critical,Triaged]09:01
jamespageLaney, when you build it locally I suspect you are building on amd64 right?09:01
Laneyso it's some buildd problem09:02
Laneyyes09:02
jamespageLaney, this is due to the cross-compilation stuff that got introduced in saucy09:02
Laneyoh they're arch:all packages09:02
Laneyaaaaaaaaaaa09:02
jamespagein launchpad the i386 build produces the amd64 cross compile package09:02
jamespagebut its broken because if can't cross compile the CGO bits09:02
jamespageif you tried that on i386 it would work09:03
Laneyso I guess the debian maintainer built on amd64 hence it works there09:03
jamespageLaney, maybe09:04
jamespageLaney, its really awkward to fix without breaking the cross-compile feature as well09:04
jamespageas you really want os/user built on the native arch build09:05
jamespagebut you might also want to use that for cross compile....09:05
jamespagebah09:05
rbasakstokachu: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5992058/ - is this what you're seeing, or do you see more test failures? I think it might be an artefact of the schroot, so I'll try again inside LXC instead.09:05
rbasak^^ was with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5992058/09:06
rbasakerr, 5.5.31-0ubuntu1. Wrong paste buffer.09:06
Laneyjamespage: yeah :/09:07
Noskcajjodh, Can you merge libnih? It's got no conflicts, just needs merging09:26
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Laneyhttp://162.213.35.4:28080/search?weighted=1&q="Hello,+world"09:52
Laneyit's alive! (sort of)09:53
sil2100ikepanhc: hi! Would you be able to sponsor a new package into universe for us? ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/121299310:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1212993 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Mediascanner" [Undecided,New]10:05
sil2100ikepanhc: it's something that will be used by a new unity scope and music app10:05
ikepanhcsil2100: hmm, I am not MOTU. let me talk to someone and see if he can do that10:06
sil2100ikepanhc: thanks ;)10:07
ikepanhcno problem10:08
sil2100ikepanhc: I already poked around for some people in #ubuntu-motu, but the usual people that do this for us are away today10:08
sil2100ikepanhc: while we want to get things in as soon as possible since FF is near10:08
ikepanhcyes, aug-29th10:10
brendandwhy is it so hard to find decent documentation for debian rules files?10:13
rbasakbrendand: what are you after? Debian policy defines the targets, and then the documentation for the contents usually depends on the build system and/or helper you're using (eg. debhelper).10:14
brendandrbasak, well it's a qt based project - so i guess it's supported by debhelper?10:16
rbasakbrendand: you're trying to write a new one?10:17
brendandrbasak, what do you mean?10:17
rbasakbrendand: I don't understand what you're looking for.10:17
brendandrbasak, i'm trying to write a rules file which builds my project10:18
ikepanhcsil2100: freeflying told me if you have a package ready he can ack for you. please contact him at #ubuntu-motu10:19
brendandrbasak, i guess i should read debhelper documentation10:20
rbasakbrendand: ah, OK. I'm not sure about qt specifically, but in general debhelper does the right thing automatically, so you might start off with a minimal debhelper-based rules file and see if that works. There might be some qt-specific runes you need, but they should be minimal. I'd look at an existing package to see.10:20
brendandrbasak, i think the main issue is that my .pro file is not at the root of the source so i may need to override something10:21
rbasakbrendand: https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging#Step_3:_Add_the_Debian_packaging_files and scroll down a bit to see what a minimal debhelper rules file looks like.10:21
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sil2100ikepanhc: thanks! Will do :)10:30
ikepanhc:D10:31
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caribou510:55
sil2100tseliot: ah ha! Hi Alberto!11:46
sil2100tseliot: can I 'use' you for some small task ;)?11:46
sil2100tseliot: since you see, we need a core-dev to ACK packaging changes before we can daily-release it into Ubuntu, and we have one here11:47
sil2100tseliot: it's a small packaging change but still, someone needs to say if the packaging changes aren't harmful or anything11:47
sil2100tseliot: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/WebApps/job/cu2d-webapp-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-webapps-qml_0.1+13.10.20130816.1-0ubuntu1.diff <- there's not much here besides 2 lines11:47
sil2100tseliot: (diff only shows packaging changes)11:48
ogra_sil2100, no mention of the dependency change in the changelog ...11:49
ogra_apart from that it looks fine11:49
sil2100ogra_: yeah, sometimes those get missed, as the changelog is being updated automatically - is that a blocker, or can we publish anyway?11:50
ogra_sil2100, well, can you make sure this happens in the future ... if someone greps the changelog for such stuff when debugging he should be able to find anything11:52
ogra_beyond that, happy upload11:52
sil2100ogra_: we'll let upstreams know that they should include info about such things in the commit messages so that it happens less frequently :)11:53
mdeslaur@pilot in11:53
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ogra_sil2100, great11:54
tseliotsil2100: +1 from me too11:58
sil2100tseliot, ogra_: thanks guys12:01
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cariboumdeslaur: I need your patchpilot attention on a couple of SRU (one that you've already looked at)13:33
mdeslaurcaribou: sure, which ones?13:33
cariboumdeslaur: LP: #1005901 is the one you commented on13:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1005901 in duplicity (Ubuntu Precise) "cannot change temp dir" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100590113:33
mdeslaurcaribou: I just uploaded that one literally 30 seconds ago :)13:34
cariboumdeslaur: :D13:34
cariboumdeslaur: the other one is LP: #81615313:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 816153 in dante (Ubuntu Precise) "dante-server using the wrong libc.so" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81615313:34
caribouinfinity and cjwatson have both helped me with this one a while ago13:34
mdeslaurcaribou: ok, let me take a look13:35
cariboumdeslaur: for this last one, the proper way would have been to change configure.ac, but the debian packaging is badly broken13:36
cariboumdeslaur: so I followed cjwatson's advice13:36
sil2100Can any core-dev give us a green light for a daily-release packaging change?13:40
sil2100https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_libunity_7.0.11+13.10.20130816.2-0ubuntu1.diff <-13:40
sil2100We need to release this ASAP13:40
sil2100Thanks in advance!13:41
sil2100mdeslaur: maybe you could help? :)13:41
sil2100Scratch that, ogra_ performed the ACK13:43
mdeslaursil2100: cool13:44
mdeslaurcaribou: do you have a few minutes to fix a few small details in your dante debdiffs?13:48
cariboumdeslaur: sure13:49
roaksoaxxnox: howdy!! so I've been trying to re-enable clvm (for corosync only) against the newer dlm (which is still in universe), however, it FTBFS. The funny thing is that If I configure it locally, it does not fail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992776/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5992774/13:50
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mdeslaurcaribou: ok, commented in bug14:00
cariboumdeslaur: ok looking14:00
cariboumdeslaur: about point  #4, I had noticed the case on my system as well, but concluded that it would not be an issue in a build environment14:03
mdeslaurcaribou: ok, can you please add a not to that effect in the patch header?14:03
mdeslaurnote14:03
cariboumdeslaur: ok, will do. I'll fix the other minor issues14:04
mdeslaurcaribou: cool, let me know when you're done, and I'll upload them14:09
argesis there a 'best-practice' way to use something like a control.in file to generate a control file?  I've seen many packages just use sed, but am wondering if there is a better way. thanks14:20
jtaylorhaving a control.in is not considered best practice, why do you need it?14:29
jtaylorcdbs provides some tools to use it I think14:29
cariboumdeslaur: just uploaded new debdiffs to the dante bug14:43
mdeslaurcaribou: thanks14:43
cariboumdeslaur: as discussed, I didn't change the logic for point #4 but added a note to the patch header14:44
mdeslaurcaribou: ok14:44
stokachurbasak: thats exactly what i saw15:00
stokachurbasak: re mysql build15:00
tseliotslangasek: are you around?15:02
mdeslaurcaribou: uploaded dante to saucy and proposed. thanks!15:03
cariboumdeslaur: saucy & precise ? np15:04
cariboumdeslaur: thank you15:04
mdeslaurwhoops, yes, precise15:04
smoserslangasek, ping.15:29
smoserjodh, maybe.15:29
smoserlxc has clone via overlayfs now (example at https://gist.github.com/smoser/6199772).15:29
smoserthats *really* nice. except for the whole inotify/reload-configuration thing.15:30
smoserfor upstart in > saucy, its sufficient to write a job and then run 'initctl reload-configuration'. that sucks, but oh well.15:30
smoserbut in precise, with overlayfs below the container, 'apt-get install some-service' results in 'some-service' not running by default as you'd expect (because it puts the job in /etc/init, runs 'start job', but upstart says "what job?")15:31
smoseri'm looking for a generic way to solve the 'apt-get install' path.15:32
jodhsmoser: I'd rather not put hacks into Upstart to work around kernel bugs. However, maybe an option is to tweak invoke-rc.d to detect if /etc/init is on overlayfs and force a reload.15:41
smoserjodh, right. thats the kind of thing i was thinking.15:42
smoserdiverting 'start' and doing it there might also be an option.15:42
hallyn_jodh: is un-implemented inotify in an fs really a "kernel bug" though?15:42
smoserkernel , upstart, FIGHT!15:42
hallyn_i'd deposit a quarter to see that15:43
jodhhallyn_: I thought the problem was that it (partially?) claims to support inotify but actually lies?15:43
hallyn_jodh: oh, if so then that's a bug :)  how does it claim that though?  inotify syscalls succeeding?15:43
smoserjodh, does upstart do anything if it was told the truth and there was no support ?15:43
smoserhallyn_, its possible that the intofiy *does* work.15:43
smoserand goes through to someone monitoring the underlay15:43
smoseri dont know.15:44
sil2100kenvandine: ping!15:44
hallyn_smoser: me neither :)15:44
hallyn_and in either case i wouldn't want hacks saying "if this is overlayfs" in upstart - rather just "if /etc doesn't support inotify"15:44
kenvandinesil2100, pong15:47
sil2100kenvandine: do you know if maybe you could upload my new package to the archive ;) ?15:48
sil2100kenvandine: since dholbach seems to be AFK15:48
sil2100kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/121299315:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1212993 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Mediascanner" [Undecided,New]15:48
kenvandinesure15:48
mdeslaur@pilot out15:49
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sil2100kenvandine: thank you! :D15:55
sil2100kenvandine: I was trying to release it for like 7 hours now :D15:55
sil2100dholbach found some small issues we fixed, there's also some hardening question there, but upstream will deal with that in next versions if there indeed is a problem15:56
kenvandinesil2100, uploaded15:56
sil2100kenvandine: WOHA15:57
sil2100:D15:57
sil2100kenvandine: I think I owe you another beer!15:57
kenvandine:)15:57
* kenvandine likes beer!15:57
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asomethinganyone around that might be able to help me figure out why a package isn't migrating?20:12
asomethingupdate_excuses says the autopkgtest for bzr is marked failing, but the most recent run on jenkins is successful20:12
asomething^^ maybe cjwatson ?20:38
infinityasomething: The root of the problem needs looking at, but I've nudged bzr to migrate.20:39
asomethinginfinity, thanks. I just wasn't sure if I was missing something. update_output.txt didn't mention bzr at all20:40
infinityasomething: Right, it won't be in output if it fails in the excuses stage.20:41
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