[03:03] so.. people got signed up for debian X backports by a kernel guy...? libdrm rename in stable like its that easy? [03:07] Yeah, there's no problem there, right? :) [03:09] who's gonna do all this packaging new mesa that only binds the drivers to new pciids and stuff? you can't use dri drivers from 9.2 (for broadwell) with 8.0 libGL anymore.. [03:09] err sorry, 9.3, 9.2 dri drivers work fine [03:11] we may end up having to do something similar for ubuntu to get broadwell on 12.04.4 but at least it'll be 9.3 or 9.4 libGL and the dri driver will work [03:12] new mesa source package that only ships i965_dri.so that is [03:13] ah wait, just realized the plan is broadwell in 13.10, before any friggin code is released [03:18] Heh. [03:18] kernel side is easy, just ship http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ in dkms format.. mesa is gonna be a PITA [03:27] jcristau: are you at debconf to say how crazy that is? renaming the rest of the stack is a huge hack but it "works", libdrm is nuts. we actually update libdrm directly in the lts regardless of the stable rules because renaming it breaks the world [03:27] then again plymouth isn't basically "essential" in debian thanks to upstart.. [03:41] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=9f07ca11c1797ac12de1e1c6aef13cf58824b5f5 breaks using newer dri drivers with squeeze mesa [05:48] Sarvatt: vorlon wants to change that (upstart) [05:48] Sarvatt: i don't think anyone signed up for the mass rename though [05:51] so far the only thing that was agreed is to try and ship compat-drivers for the kernel [05:51] and have the installer use it if you have such and such hw [07:04] ooh, xorg bof in 25 :) [07:04] @debconf [07:05] yeah. probably not video though, i submitted the bof last night at like 11:30pm [07:06] we were like "hey, look, there's an empty slot in the main talk room, let's steal that" [07:07] hehe, ok [07:24] tjaalton: actually there are video team people in the room, so maybe they'll do it anyway [07:29] nice [08:00] that went well :) [08:04] because the mass rename worked so well for ubuntu [08:04] i haven't even tried only backporting the drivers and rename them, you have to be pretty crazy to do that [08:58] mlankhorst: heh, rick has a new hybrid machine, and nouveau thinks there's vga-1 connected, lp1212677 [10:02] nice, stuck touch input with saucy.. now to test the same with the latest xserver [10:02] it finally got unblocked [10:04] yup, seems to be fixed [10:06] mlankhorst: actually i have no clue how the mass rename worked for ubuntu. all i know is it seems like a crazy amount of work that there's no way we can pull off in debian. [19:49] jcristau: renaming mesa is even crazier..