[03:03] <Sarvatt> so.. people got signed up for debian X backports by a kernel guy...? libdrm rename in stable like its that easy?
[03:07] <RAOF> Yeah, there's no problem there, right? :)
[03:09] <Sarvatt> who's gonna do all this packaging new mesa that only binds the drivers to new pciids and stuff? you can't use dri drivers from 9.2 (for broadwell) with 8.0 libGL anymore..
[03:09] <Sarvatt> err sorry, 9.3, 9.2 dri drivers work fine
[03:11] <Sarvatt> we may end up having to do something similar for ubuntu to get broadwell on 12.04.4 but at least it'll be 9.3 or 9.4 libGL and the dri driver will work
[03:12] <Sarvatt> new mesa source package that only ships i965_dri.so that is
[03:13] <Sarvatt> ah wait, just realized the plan is broadwell in 13.10, before any friggin code is released
[03:18] <RAOF> Heh.
[03:18] <Sarvatt> kernel side is easy, just ship http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ in dkms format.. mesa is gonna be a PITA
[03:27] <Sarvatt> jcristau: are you at debconf to say how crazy that is? renaming the rest of the stack is a huge hack but it "works", libdrm is nuts. we actually update libdrm directly in the lts regardless of the stable rules because renaming it breaks the world
[03:27] <Sarvatt> then again plymouth isn't basically "essential" in debian thanks to upstart..
[03:41] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=9f07ca11c1797ac12de1e1c6aef13cf58824b5f5 breaks using newer dri drivers with squeeze mesa
[05:48] <jcristau> Sarvatt: vorlon wants to change that (upstart)
[05:48] <jcristau> Sarvatt: i don't think anyone signed up for the mass rename though
[05:51] <jcristau> so far the only thing that was agreed is to try and ship compat-drivers for the kernel
[05:51] <jcristau> and have the installer use it if you have such and such hw
[07:04] <tjaalton> ooh, xorg bof in 25 :)
[07:04] <tjaalton> @debconf
[07:05] <jcristau> yeah.  probably not video though, i submitted the bof last night at like 11:30pm
[07:06] <jcristau> we were like "hey, look, there's an empty slot in the main talk room, let's steal that"
[07:07] <tjaalton> hehe, ok
[07:24] <jcristau> tjaalton: actually there are video team people in the room, so maybe they'll do it anyway
[07:29] <tjaalton> nice
[08:00] <tjaalton> that went well :)
[08:04] <mlankhorst> because the mass rename worked so well for ubuntu
[08:04] <mlankhorst> i haven't even tried only backporting the drivers and rename them, you have to be pretty crazy to do that
[08:58] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: heh, rick has a new hybrid machine, and nouveau thinks there's vga-1 connected, lp1212677
[10:02] <tjaalton> nice, stuck touch input with saucy.. now to test the same with the latest xserver
[10:02] <tjaalton> it finally got unblocked
[10:04] <tjaalton> yup, seems to be fixed
[10:06] <jcristau> mlankhorst: actually i have no clue how the mass rename worked for ubuntu.  all i know is it seems like a crazy amount of work that there's no way we can pull off in debian.
[19:49] <mlankhorst> jcristau: renaming mesa is even crazier..