[00:00] <wow050> jrib: The same pop-up has come up with other applications and doesnt work either
[00:00] <wow050> jrib: I have to go but I will be back in an hour if you can help me then
[00:01] <quibble42> quick question: How do I save something (a libreoffice impress .ppt file) from home -> username -> documents -> foldername to a usb0, when nautilus will not register that it exists?
[00:04] <quibble42> quick question: How do I save something (a libreoffice impress .ppt file) from home -> username -> documents -> foldername to a usb0, when nautilus will not register that it exists? please?
[00:04] <FlashSoul> You could try saving it somewhere else and copy it there from console
[00:04] <daftykins> quibble42: df -h to see if the flash drive is mounted somewhere
[00:05] <quibble42> daftykins it's sbd1, it IS mounted
[00:06] <daftykins> quibble42: ah the fact you plugged it in afterwards has probably freaked out impress. save it locally, then close + re-open
[00:06] <daftykins> or use CLI to copy it as FlashSoul recommended
[00:07] <daftykins> simples.
[00:07] <histo> quibble42: then copy the file to where it is mounted
[00:07] <Marlenee> can i adduser with full permission so i dont need every time to add sudo before every command
[00:08] <daftykins> Marlenee: just run 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i' to temporarily switch to root
[00:08] <daftykins> read 'man sudo' to find the difference
[00:09] <curatrix> Running permanently as sudo is a very bad idea
[00:09] <quibble42> histo daftykins FlashSoul thanks everyone
[00:12] <daftykins> curatrix: long term channel visitor knows what they're doing
[00:13] <FlashSoul> And then they erase their harddrive
[00:14] <L-sama> lets install some boot viruses
[00:14] <curatrix> daftykins: I doubt anyone who knows what they are doing would run as sudo permanently
[00:14] <histo> and come in here asking about data recovery
[00:15] <daftykins> curatrix: hence the advice dissuading it \o/
[00:15] <daftykins> curatrix: also, 'as sudo' lawl
[00:17] <Guest86792> i need to mark a .jar file as executable but im not quite sure how, if somebody could please help that would be great. thank you.
[00:17] <rog3r> chmod +x nameoffile.jar
[00:17] <daftykins> hah what needs a jar executable O_O since java tends to run it surely it doesn't need it in the conventional sense?
[00:18] <Guest86792> i tried that and it didn't work for some reason
[00:18] <k1l> Guest86792: either you make a right mouse click and check the box in the rights tab. or you do a chmod +x filename.jar
[00:18] <curatrix> Guest86792: Right click on the file in the file manager and check the "make this file executable"
[00:18] <rog3r> if it didn't work, maybe the chmod isn't really the problem.
[00:18] <Guest86792> it said no such file or directory
[00:19] <Guest86792> but it is definitely there
[00:19] <daftykins> Guest86792: are you tab completing the filename?
[00:20] <cinvoke> xubuntu 13.04 halts on checking battery state. i read that my Xauthority file may be corrupted, so i moved that and rebooted.  however, this didnt fix the problem.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[00:21] <Yoman> hi
[00:21] <daftykins> hi
[00:21] <Yoman> Anyone willing to help out a noobie
[00:22] <daftykins> Yoman: ask away with detail please
[00:22] <cinvoke> does my question make sense?
[00:23] <kick-azzskd> Desperately need some networking help, what i've found on the web is not working
[00:23] <daftykins> kick-azzskd: ask the question with detail please
[00:24] <kick-azzskd> I'm trying to share my wireless connection but i just can't seem to do it. i know this computer will do it cause i had it before but i'm not the biggest windows fan
[00:24] <kick-azzskd> via ethernet
[00:24] <daftykins> kick-azzskd: so you want an ubuntu system to be the client in this case, accessing via the windows machine?
[00:25] <kick-azzskd> no i want my windows connecting through ubuntu
[00:25] <daftykins> in that case
[00:25] <daftykins> !ics
[00:25] <kick-azzskd> the ubuntu laptop is my third party
[00:26] <TannedVampire> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
[00:26] <TannedVampire> is this why my laptop perform slow?
[00:27] <TannedVampire> When I tried out Candy Crush Saga, it is slow.
[00:27] <thurstylark> Does anyone know a good low-cost ubuntu vps provider? Hexxeh just shut down his servers, and I just came up with a few reasons to have a vps at the ready :P
[00:28] <rog3r> thurstylark: FWIW, I understand hostgator offers VPS with Ubuntu images available.
[00:29] <FlashSoul> TannedVampire : I guess you're on the open-source drivers? Try ATI's ones.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, Candy Crush Saga is an android game, how are you running this in ubuntu is this a phablet install on a tablet or phone?
[00:30] <ixio2> I have heard good things about tagadab VPS
[00:31] <k1l> thurstylark: that topic would suit better into the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:31] <TannedVampire> Candy crush saga is in Google store
[00:31] <TannedVampire> I'm not sure whether I'm on open-source drivers.
[00:31] <thiebaude> candy crush is also on facebook
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, Yeah and an android app. how would this be run in ubuntu?
[00:31] <TannedVampire> I'll try ATI's ones.
[00:32] <TannedVampire> wilee-nilee: go to chromium.  Go to Google Store.  Type Candy Crush Saga.  it is different from android game but it looks similiar.
[00:32] <TannedVampire> two games look similar albeit fancy trail.
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, The ati will not follow kernel upgrades, just so you know.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> I don't use chromium or chrome
[00:33] <TannedVampire> wilee-nilee: what do you use?  firefox?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> yes
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, So you are actually playing the game on line?
[00:35] <TannedVampire> wilee-nilee: yes.
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, Cool, thanks just wondering.
[00:37] <FlashSoul> And watch out. You may get bad surprises. I'm here in the first place because of ATI's drivers >.<
[00:37] <daftykins> ^
[00:37] <daftykins> AMD love to entertain their customers on Linux
[00:37] <FlashSoul> This might help you : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> TannedVampire, Here is info on that graphic info at askubuntu if you need them. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=ATI+RS690M+
[00:39] <TannedVampire> thanks i'll look into it.
[00:42] <Spee_Der> Hello neighbor....
[00:42] <Guest58700> hello
[00:45] <daftykins> people saying hello.... ask away!
[00:47] <wdkevinone> I just setup a new install of Xubuntu on a VM. I installed VMWare tools then changed my resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768 and now when I type my password to login, it just brings me back to the login screen again.
[00:48] <the_misfit> wdkevinone, try logging out and logging in a terminal session
[00:49] <the_misfit> then do startxfce
[00:49] <wdkevinone> ok
[00:49] <wdkevinone> hmm
[00:49] <the_misfit> might have to do it everytime until you get a better answer
[00:49] <wdkevinone> it says system restart required
[00:49] <wdkevinone> let me do that quick
[00:50] <daftykins> apparently updating xfce-session and glib might help
[00:50] <daftykins> are you not fully updated and upgraded?
[00:51] <wdkevinone> still did the same thing
[00:51] <wdkevinone> ill try the other method
[00:52] <wdkevinone> oh wtf. now i got sda1 errors logging in.
[00:52] <daftykins> O_O
[00:52] <wdkevinone> its a VM
[00:52] <daftykins> haha
[00:52] <daftykins> again - are you fully updated and upgraded?
[00:52] <wdkevinone> i just installed it today
[00:52] <wdkevinone> i thought i was
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> wdkevinone, Swearing acronyms are not allowed nor swearing.
[00:59] <daftykins> sigh.
[01:02] <scumbler> Obama uses ubuntu.
[01:03] <reisio> is that meant to be a compliment or insult?
[01:03] <daftykins> sounds like a statement to me
[01:04] <Spee_Der> I'm having a great time with Ubuntu  v13.10. I owe a big thank you to lots of folks here and other places. Thanks so much for all the help.....
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 > Spee_Der
[01:04] <Spee_Der> I don't care for the Unity though, so I rolled  the desktop back to original.....
[01:04] <reisio> Spee_Der: to what?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> gnome 1.99999999
[01:05] <IdleOne> 13.10 talk and support in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:05] <Spee_Der> I used gnome-session-fallback to get back to original desktop....
[01:05] <reisio> ah
[01:05] <Spee_Der> Thank you Idleone, sorry I'm off the keys and over to ubuntu+1
[01:07] <carlos_saftey> is there an irc for cinnamon dev?  i can't find it
[01:08] <scumbler> carlos_saftey: sure
[01:08] <reisio> carlos_saftey: ask on irc.spotchat.org
[01:10] <fellayaboy> i have compiz and im using the widget layer with screenlets.. when i press f9 each time all the widgets go up a few until eventually it disappears.. has anyone in here experienced that problem?
[01:11] <scumbler> carlos_saftey: yes
[01:12] <scumbler> fellayaboy: yes same here
[01:12] <fellayaboy> scumbler have you found a solution to that problem
[01:13] <scumbler> fellayaboy: nope
[01:13] <fellayaboy> i looked online everywhere, some people came close but nothing
[01:13] <TannedVampire> It turns out that candy crush saga in Google Store is fake: It looks like an older version flash game put in by a scammer.
[01:14] <scumbler> fellayaboy: went to kde
[01:14] <fellayaboy> im actually using mint with mate
[01:14] <scumbler> TannedVampire: wow
[01:16] <BAMbanda> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my toshiba satellite c855d and I'm getting a problem when booting it. I get the options that tell me to try ubuntu, install, oem install, or check disk for defects but right after I choose an option I get a black screen that stays there
[01:17] <BAMbanda> I googled around and they say its a problem with the video card and nomodeset?
[01:17] <scumbler> BAMbanda: say what
[01:17] <Rad-> Does anyone know why my laptop is stalling before I can look at setup or boot options to boot from CD? I have a UEFI
[01:17] <BAMbanda> How do I configure it properly for ubuntu 13.04? I am able to get into the grub command line
[01:18] <usr13>  /exit
[01:18] <daftykins> Rad-: what do you mean 'stalling' ?
[01:18] <scumbler> Rad-: try that.
[01:18] <Rad-> As in the bar that's supposed to finish loading finished loading
[01:18] <Rad-> doesn't boot into windows
[01:19] <Rad-> doesn't let me access setup
[01:19] <Rad-> even though it gets lit up
[01:19] <Rad-> i'm trying to install linux on a UEFI system =\
[01:19] <scumbler> Rad-: try that first
[01:20] <scumbler> BAMbanda: get it fixed
[01:20] <Rad-> daftykins: any idea? scumbler just keeps pm-ing me cusswords
[01:21] <scumbler> Rad-: i told u what to do.
[01:21] <daftykins> if an op would kindly escort scumbler off the premises
[01:21] <daftykins> that would be very much appreciated
[01:22] <daftykins> given he is PM'ing everyone abuse
[01:22] <angela-> rad /ignore nickname
[01:22] <Rad-> angela-: /ignore isn't recognized
[01:22] <Prodego> angela-: can't, webchat. He'll have to do it the old fashioned way or get a real client
[01:22] <Prodego> however he can block PMs
[01:22] <daftykins> Rad-: as soon as you power on you should be able to hit a key like F2 or delete to enter the BIOS, is it really not working? i don't get what you meant by progress bar
[01:22] <Prodego> someone suggest that mode
[01:22] <Rad-> daftykins: i don't have BIOS i have UEFI
[01:23] <daftykins> Rad-: the setup is still often called a BIOS even when it's UEFI
[01:23] <Rad-> i wish i had bios =\
[01:23] <Rad-> oh well i can't get into it
[01:23] <Rad-> i pressed f2 like 15 minutes ago
[01:23] <Rad-> F2 Setup lit up
[01:23] <Rad-> but i can't actually get INTo setup
[01:23] <angela-> tad clik on his name whit you right mous butten en sy what you can do
[01:23] <Rad-> angela-: nothing lol
[01:24] <scumbler> angela-: tried that
[01:24] <Rad-> ah okay i can mode +g
[01:24] <Rad-> Or that works too
[01:24] <angela-> ok than rad
[01:25] <Rad-> So any idea why I can't get into BIOS?
[01:25] <daftykins> Rad-: is it a laptop?
[01:25] <Rad-> yes
[01:25] <daftykins> power off, remove battery + mains, then reassemble, power on and hit the F2 / delete / whatever key it is for your system
[01:25] <Rad-> been there done that
[01:25] <daftykins> did it come with windows 8 or some such?
[01:25] <Rad-> yeah it came with win 8
[01:25] <angela-> rad have you rywet del ?
[01:26] <Rad-> BTW the keys are f2 for setup, f12 for boot options
[01:26] <Rad-> but i can't get into either of them
[01:26] <daftykins> hrmm
[01:26] <daftykins> what make+model?
[01:26] <angela-> must by away to co in to you bios
[01:27] <angela-> delete
[01:27] <Rad-> daftykins: no idea. some 15 inch inspiron. my dad bought it this time, so not sure what it is
[01:27] <daftykins> Rad-: can you not read the label on it?
[01:28] <angela-> short cut name del
[01:28] <Rad-> well it's a 15 inch inspiron
[01:28] <Rad-> no label that tells me what it is
[01:28] <Rad-> lol
[01:28] <daftykins> underneath?
[01:28] <Rad-> nope
[01:28] <Rad-> there's a DPN, whatever that is
[01:28] <numb95> i need some idea for the free software supports fot fujitsu laptops
[01:29] <daftykins> Rad-: service tag?
[01:29] <Rad-> ohh let me look up my service tag
[01:29] <Rad-> yeah
[01:29] <Rad-> good idea
[01:29] <angela-> if you startup you laptop must by to by seen whatyhe way is to co to bios mostly  left unther you screen
[01:29] <Rad-> daftykins: Inspiron 15R 5520
[01:30] <Vivekananda> hello
[01:31] <Brett232> Would anybody here be able to help me get my wired ethernet driver working on 12.04 server? It isn't being autodetected. I've found a few forum references for the specific card, but haven't had any luck.
[01:31] <daftykins> Rad-: ah so you've got that Dell logo coming up with the progress bar, showing F2 and F12 in the corner but somehow the keyboard does nothing, right.
[01:31] <Rad-> nope. the keyboard does SOMETHING
[01:31] <Rad-> it lights up the options
[01:31] <Rad-> but doesn't actually let me GO into the options
[01:32] <brian_> hi anyone know of a xbuntu channel
[01:32] <Rad-> brian_:  i'm guessing it's #xubuntu
[01:32] <daftykins> Rad-: so it just skips past and boots the OS instead?
[01:32] <Rad-> nope
[01:32] <Rad-> doesn't boot the OS either
[01:32] <Rad-> lol
[01:33] <brian_> yes thanks im getting my to new keyboard
[01:33] <daftykins> Rad-: it doesn't 0o is it broken or something?
[01:33] <Rad-> dunno
[01:33] <daftykins> i mean the existing 8 install
[01:33] <Rad-> it was working earlier today daftykins
[01:33] <Rad-> my concern is that it doesn't even recognize a windows install right now
[01:33] <Rad-> haven't repartitioned or formatted or anything
[01:34] <angela-> rad try a keyboard whit usb
[01:34] <daftykins> ^ i was going to suggest that but it sounded like input is being taken, it's just ignoring it
[01:35] <daftykins> i'd probably pop the hard disk if you're comfortable doing it
[01:35] <daftykins> although if it's new, you might want to just go for warranty
[01:35] <Brett232> Would anybody here be able to help me get my wired ethernet driver working on 12.04 server? It isn't being autodetected. I've found a few forum references for the specific card, but haven't had any luck.
[01:35] <Rad-> no it's not ignoring it
[01:35] <daftykins> Brett232: so what've you tried?
[01:35] <Rad-> the BIOS/UEFI whatever tyou  wanna call it at this point is just broken
[01:35] <Rad-> i think
[01:36] <brian_> rad are you familiar with xubuntu?
[01:36] <daftykins> support o'clock then maybe
[01:36] <numb95>  I need some help for buying new laptop
[01:37] <Brett232> daftykins: so i've determined I have a jmc250 gigabit; others have had similar problems, recommended to install drivers from source from their website, tried that, restarted, still didn't work
[01:38] <Rad-> daftykins: yeah if i had dell chat support i would have already done that
[01:38] <daftykins> Brett232: did you modprobe the compiled module after install?
[01:38] <Brett232> daftykins: yes
[01:38] <daftykins> Rad-: in the past we used phones
[01:38] <daftykins> Brett232: did it make an interface appear, in the output from 'ifconfig -a' ?
[01:38] <Rad-> lol daftykins but that costs money =[
[01:39] <Brett232> daftykins: i don't have an eth0 in the list, but i have a p33p1 "ethernet", not sure if that is it
[01:39] <Brett232> daftykins: i tried adding eth0 with dhcp config to /etc/network/interfaces manually too, not sure if that complicates things
[01:39] <daftykins> Brett232: weird, have you got a cable connected ready?
[01:40] <Brett232> daftykins: yes
[01:40] <daftykins> Brett232: tried running dhclient on the p33p1 interface?
[01:40] <daftykins> 'sudo dhclient p33p1'
[01:40] <Rad-> daftykins:  ah i found hardware diagnostics
[01:41] <daftykins> Rad-: i'd probably do some disk checks
[01:41] <Rad-> well the thing i got into is called ePSA pre-boot system assessment
[01:41] <Rad-> lol
[01:41] <Brett232> daftykins: it looks like that worked! it seems like it would have gotten dhcp automatically on restart, though.. hmm. thank you. is there something in particular i have to do to 'cement' this config?
[01:42] <daftykins> Brett232: if you renamed the 'eth0' to that interface name in your interfaces file it could cheat it
[01:42] <Brett232> daftykins: i'll give that a try
[01:43] <Rad-> also can i ask a stupid question?
[01:43] <daftykins> do it
[01:43] <Rad-> does 'sudo rm -rf /' actually remove everything or does it get to the point where the system isn't stable enough to remove stuff?
[01:43] <Rad-> (i've always wanted to ask this question)
[01:44] <daftykins> if you were in graphically it'd probably stop before it cleaned up a lot
[01:44] <daftykins> i dunno, try it in a VM one day :)
[01:44] <Rad-> hahaha
[01:45] <Rad-> looks like he pre boot assessment is going to stress test my hdd
[01:45] <Nick___> hello, can anybody help me with a problem?
[01:46] <reisio> Nick___: nope, but some people can help you with a _specific_ problem
[01:46] <daftykins> Nick___: ask away with as much detail as possible please
[01:46] <Nick___> ah okay
[01:46] <Rad-> Depends on what that problem is Nick___
[01:46] <Nick___> i thought everyone was gone
[01:46] <Nick___> ill start explaining
[01:46] <daftykins> you only just joined :(
[01:46] <reisio> you thought all 1,624 of us were gone? :)
[01:46] <Nick___> sorry, i just didnt know where to ask..
[01:47] <reisio> :p
[01:47] <Rad-> well what's your question
[01:47] <Brett232> daftykins: that worked well! thanks again.
[01:47] <Rad-> i'm waiting to see if my HDD died.
[01:47] <Rad-> apparently
[01:47] <Rad-> lol
[01:47] <daftykins> Brett232: no problem :)
[01:47] <Nick___> i recently bought an acer aspire E1-531 with win8 preinstalled
[01:47] <Nick___> so i installed ubuntu 12.04 along onto it with no problems on the UEIF bios
[01:47] <daftykins> reisio: in fairness 1620 are :(
[01:47] <Nick___> however, GRUB did not work because of secureboot
[01:47] <reisio> daftykins: :p
[01:47] <Rad-> turn secure boot off Nick___
[01:48] <Nick___> my bios will not allow me
[01:48] <reisio> you do it from Windows
[01:48] <Rad-> daftykins: HDD works fine
[01:48] <Nick___> you do?
[01:48] <reisio> Nick___: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:48] <reisio> with Windows-preinstalled boxes, yes, usually
[01:48] <angela-> sorry e=rad itry it your remark question but it das nothing lol
[01:48] <daftykins> angela-: what's the deal with your english?
[01:48] <Rad-> Nick___: dunno i can do mine from the BIOS (supposedly)
[01:49] <Rad-> What make and model do you have again
[01:49] <Nick___> i have an Acer Aspire E1-531
[01:49] <Nick___> secure boot is locked, unless i switch to legacy bios
[01:49] <Nick___> but then i dont think grub would let me boot into windows
[01:49] <wow050> jrib: I am here, are you still here?
[01:49] <daftykins> Nick___: you could keep switching in BIOS to boot each OS, ugly but works
[01:50] <Nick___> that is what ive been doing
[01:50] <daftykins> ah-har
[01:50] <Nick___> today, i updated to Ubuntu 12.10
[01:50] <Nick___> i heard it has been signed to work with secure boot
[01:50] <Nick___> however
[01:50] <Nick___> now i get a blank screen after the ubuntu logo, probably because of my intel chipset
[01:51] <Nick___> and i cannot access recovery because there is no grub
[01:51] <fellayaboy> hey in installed virtualbox from their website..i used the all other linux distro ..it as a *.run file  i need to upgrade...how do i remove the old one so i cann install the new one or will it just upgrade the one thats there?
[01:51] <wow050> jrib: jrib, are you there? The problem is still there.
[01:51] <daftykins> fellayaboy: i'd bet it's in their install documentation
[01:52] <Nick___> so now Ubuntu will not load, recovery is not an option from what i know...
[01:52] <fellayaboy> tldr
[01:52] <Rad-> Nick___: get into a livecd
[01:52] <Rad-> if you can
[01:52] <Rad-> and you can still access those partitions i think
[01:53] <Nick___> i have to burn it onto a cd, or can i use a USB?
[01:53] <Rad-> and extract data if you really wanted to. at least that's how it worked pre-UEFI
[01:53] <Rad-> i think you can use USB> never done it before. i've always used CDs
[01:53] <Nick___> there is no data worth saving
[01:53] <Nick___> would i have to use a 12.10 iso
[01:54] <daftykins> fellayaboy: then your question must be tl;dr as well!
[01:54] <wow050> Ok guys, when trying to install a program I get a popup asking for the administrative password. My user password I use to login does not work.
[01:54] <daftykins> wow050: i have an idea, run the program with sudo instead
[01:55] <wow050> How do i do so?
[01:55] <daftykins> i dunno
[01:55] <daftykins> i don't even know what you're running :D
[01:55] <Nick___> would a live cd be the same as http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[01:55] <fellayaboy> lol i got it though...i looked at the documentation and found the solution thanks
[01:55] <Nick___> the installation tool?
[01:55] <Rad-> I think so.
[01:55] <Nick___> well i have that, the 12.04 version though
[01:55] <DoverMo> wow050, try "addgroup [yourname] adm" and "addgroup yourname sudo"
[01:55] <Rad-> It used to be. This is my first time using ubuntu since..... 09?
[01:56] <Nick___> okay, but even then i cannot get into the recovery.. i think
[01:56] <fellayaboy> next time ill check documentation..thats a new lifelong resolution ima commit to as a linux user
[01:56] <DoverMo> wow050, without the brackets
[01:56] <daftykins> fellayaboy: good man
[01:56] <fellayaboy> yeah man thanks daftykins
[01:56] <daftykins> <3
[01:56] <Nick___> recovery is ctrl + alt + F1 in the installation program, correct?
[01:56] <fellayaboy> wish me lucky please on my life adventure
[01:56] <fellayaboy> luck*
[01:57] <Rad-> not sure Nick___
[01:57] <fellayaboy> iim not being sarcastic..
[01:57] <Nick___> mm
[01:57] <Rad-> since you seem to be on the internet...
[01:57] <Rad-> lol
[01:57] <Nick___> ?
[01:58] <wow050> Dovermo: It said I was already in both groups yet I had to add sudo to those commands for them to work
[01:58] <Rad-> google. i asked on here cuz i couldn't get tne Fn power button thing to work to do diagnostics on my computer lol.
[01:58] <Nick___> ive looked on the internet about recovery mode but i only find terminal commands
[01:58] <Rad-> yeah well
[01:58] <Rad-> use terminal commands
[01:58] <DoverMo> wow050, oh
[01:58] <Nick___> but my screen in blank
[01:58] <Nick___> so how can i open termial
[01:58] <Rad-> blank how
[01:58] <Nick___> when i boot ubuntu
[01:58] <Nick___> the logo shows, then a black screen
[01:58] <Rad-> ctrl+alt+f1 gets you into a VTE i think
[01:58] <Rad-> try it
[01:59] <Nick___> yes... on the recovery disk
[01:59] <Rad-> once you get into a vte
[01:59] <Rad-> it shold ask you to login
[01:59] <Nick___> nope
[01:59] <Rad-> ...login
[01:59] <wow050> DoverMo, the program i'd like to run is an excetuable and someone suggested I run it with sudo instead, how would I do so?
[01:59] <Rad-> lol
[01:59] <FloodBot1> Rad-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:59] <daftykins> Nick___: when you're booted up in livecd mode, ctrl+alt+f1 will give you a TTY which is little different than running a terminal, which yeah you can fix things with, but it isn't any form of 'recovery' mode
[01:59] <DoverMo> wow050, "sudo ./Path/to/executable"
[01:59] <Rad-> Nick___: honestly, I would kinda love to have pictures if it is possible.
[01:59] <Nick___> i can do that if you want
[02:00] <Rad-> sure
[02:00] <Rad-> get into VTE1 or whatever it's called.
[02:00] <DoverMo> wow050, or "gksu nameofprogram" if it exists in /usr/bin
[02:00] <Nick___> okay then
[02:00] <Rad-> i'm betting the black screen is because you're on VTE7 or whatever. that's what x runs on (i think)
[02:00] <Nick___> in order to get into VTE1, i have to boot via USB though
[02:00] <Nick___> not through ubuntu
[02:00] <Rad-> daftykins: feel free to correct anything i say
[02:00] <Rad-> Nick___: theoretically you can get it done in ubuntu too
[02:00] <Rad-> try it
[02:01] <Rad-> if so, you just need to reinstall your graphics driver thingy
[02:01] <Rad-> find out what you need to do to have graphics by doing 'sudo lshw'
[02:01] <Rad-> .....ubuntu comes with lshw right?
[02:02] <Nick___> so you want me to boot into livecd (usb installation) and then go into the terminal screen?
[02:02] <wow050> DoverMo, it said command not found?
[02:02] <Rad-> Nick___: try it intside ubunut first
[02:02] <Nick___> i heard that if i get a new kernal
[02:02] <Nick___> the problem will go away
[02:02] <DoverMo> wow050, gksu isn't installed by default, so you have to install it. sudo should be there however
[02:02] <Nick___> alright
[02:02] <Rad-> can i haz pics?
[02:03] <Nick___> what would you like a picture of?
[02:03] <somsip> !gksu | somsip
[02:03] <Nick___> ah
[02:03] <wow050> DoverMo, No just doing sudo then the location of the file gave that
[02:03] <Nick___> on ubuntu i got into the termial
[02:03] <Nick___> via ctrl + alt + F1
[02:03] <Rad-> yeah
[02:03] <Rad-> now login
[02:03] <Rad-> and reinstall your graphics driver
[02:03] <Rad-> whatever it is
[02:03] <Rad-> lol
[02:04] <FloodBot1> Rad-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <Nick___> i dont know my (login)
[02:04] <Nick___> just my password..
[02:04] <Nick___> nevermind
[02:04] <DoverMo> wow050, you might have mistyped it. for instance it should look like "sudo ./usr/bin/exec" if sudo isn't there, then install is via your software manager or apt-get
[02:04] <Rad-> how do you not know your login -_-
[02:04] <Nick___> found it
[02:04] <Nick___> ah well it was just my name..
[02:05] <wow050> DoverMo, Do I include the period either?
[02:05] <Nick___> I dont have a login screen on my ubuntu
[02:05] <DoverMo> wow050, yep
[02:05] <Nick___> it boots straight to desktop usually
[02:05] <Rad-> oh.
[02:05] <DoverMo> wow050, the period is there for a reason. Without the period it would be more like "sudo sh /usr/bin/poop"
[02:06] <Rad-> yeah um. when i use ubuntu i install x and then i3 and that's it
[02:06] <Rad-> lol
[02:06] <Nick___> so should i try sudo apt-get update?
[02:06] <Nick___> or look for a way to find a new kernal
[02:07] <daftykins> kernel
[02:07] <wow050> Dovermo, still says Commad not found. Wtf is going on...
[02:07] <Nick___> any suggestions?
[02:07] <Nick___> ah i found a command line
[02:08] <Rad-> Nick___: do you know what computer you own?
[02:08] <Rad-> make and model?
[02:08] <Nick___> yeah
[02:08] <DoverMo> wow050, okayy so if you do "sudo passwd root" what does it say?
[02:08] <Nick___> its Acer Aspire E1-531
[02:08] <wow050> Enter new UNIX password
[02:08] <daftykins> DoverMo: i hope you're not trying to suggest he create a password for root =|
[02:09] <wow050> DoverMo, It says Enter new UNIX password.
[02:09] <daftykins> wow050: he's giving you some seriously bad advice
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> wow050, And don't do it.
[02:09] <marz> How do I know if my graphics card has been installed properly. Using ubuntu 12.04
[02:09] <DoverMo> wow050, hit control C then
[02:10] <Rad-> Nick___: reinstall intel graphics driver
[02:10] <daftykins> marz: running glxgears would tend to show if a driver was on or not
[02:10] <wow050> Why is it bad advice?
[02:10] <Nick___> do you know the command for that rad
[02:10] <Nick___> because i dont...
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Ubuntu has no root password
[02:10] <DoverMo> wow050, I just wanted to see if sudo was working. you don't need to run that command
[02:11] <marz> @daftykinds: I think my laptop is using a dual graphics card. Intel and Nvidia
[02:11] <marz> @daftykinds: How do I check it out?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> !root | wow050
[02:11] <daftykins> marz: oh, optimus?
[02:11] <Nick___> rad : i was going to try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2129536
[02:11] <marz> @daftykins: I
[02:12] <wow050> Ok so than how can I launch this excecutable using sudo?
[02:12] <marz> @daftykins: I'm not sure. That's what I'm trying to figure out
[02:12] <Nick___> its very similar to my problem
[02:12] <daftykins> wow050: change to the folder it's in and type 'sudo ./filename'
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> marz, Use tab to complete nicks, that notifies the person you addressing, @ does not.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> your*
[02:12] <Rad-> Nick___: dunno i was gonna suggest what one of they suggested
[02:12] <Rad-> reinstall this: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:12] <Rad-> otherwise
[02:12] <daftykins> marz: if it's an i-series intel processor with an nvidia xxx-M GPU, it likely is optimus
[02:12] <DoverMo> daftykins, one thing you could try before using sudo is "chmod +x /thexecutable"
[02:13] <Rad-> we're going to have to work on some grub configuration which i really don't wanna do
[02:13] <Rad-> lol
[02:13] <marz> wilee-nilee: I'm sorry about that.
[02:13] <Nick___> well ill try the nvidia
[02:13] <daftykins> DoverMo: that's not me asking to do that :(
[02:13] <Nick___> and maybe the one i showed in
[02:13] <DoverMo> daftykins, wrong tab
[02:13] <Nick___> the link
[02:13] <marz> daftykins: How can I check that out?
[02:13] <daftykins> DoverMo: if he had it asking for a pass it must've gotten further
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> marz, No biggie you just the other t o know and the rest of us. ;)
[02:13] <DoverMo> wow050,  one thing you could try before using sudo is "chmod +x /thexecutable" to make sure the file will actually run
[02:13] <Rad-> Nick___: i don't have ubuntu working atm sorry. i'm trying to get my laptop to boot. you're going to have to search for exact package names yourself or ask daftykins
[02:13] <wow050> daftykins: How do I navigate there again? Fairly new and cant remember the exact command?
[02:14] <Rad-> i think there's a web interface to look it up but i don't know the link right now >.>
[02:14] <daftykins> marz: erm, not sure on a way to confirm it to be honest
[02:14] <wow050> DoverMo, No I know the file will actually run, ive given it permissions and ran it by double clicking
[02:14] <Nick___> sorry rad but your command didnt work
[02:14] <Nick___> it didnt install
[02:14] <Rad-> i didn't give you any commands -___-
[02:14] <Rad-> i gave you a package name
[02:15] <daftykins> wow050: have you tried what i said to run yet?
[02:15] <Nick___> ahah... well the package sorry
[02:15] <Rad-> reinstall*
[02:15] <Rad-> don't install
[02:15] <wow050> daftykins, I forgot how to navigate to a folder.
[02:15] <Nick___> oh i included purge
[02:15] <Nick___> im not suppost to do that
[02:15] <Nick___> lol
[02:15] <Rad-> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:15] <DoverMo> wow050, "cd" allows you to navigate and "ls" will list the files in the folder you are in
[02:16] <Rad-> wow050: if you're going to dick around with permissions like DoverMo seems to suggest at times, i would suggest ls -l because it lists permissions as well
[02:16] <Rad-> iirc
[02:16] <Nick___> well rad
[02:17] <Nick___> "Unable to correct problem, you have broken packages"
[02:17] <Rad-> ...
[02:17] <Rad-> well fix them
[02:17] <Rad-> lol
[02:17] <Nick___> im not sure how
[02:17] <Nick___> only had ubuntu for like a week
[02:17] <Nick___> ill try the commands in the link i showed
[02:17] <Nick___> he seems to have the same problems as me
[02:17] <Rad-> Nick___: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta
[02:18] <Rad-> Usefull command lin commands for ubuntu there
[02:18] <Nick___> ah i see
[02:18] <Rad-> make sure you're looking at the debian/ubuntu column.
[02:18] <marz> When I input "lspci". There seems to be two video cards displayed. Intel and Nvidia
[02:18] <Nick___> yes yes
[02:18] <marz> How do I make sure both of them are used?
[02:18] <Nick___> no yum for me
[02:19] <wow050> daftykins, Do i type the file extension when i use the command?
[02:19] <Rad-> also Nick___  what did you purge
[02:19] <Rad-> =\
[02:19] <Nick___> eariler? nothing removed
[02:19] <Nick___> so dont worry
[02:19] <Nick___> if it doesnt work after this rad
[02:20] <Nick___> i might just reinstall
[02:20] <Rad-> daftykins: apt-get --fix-broken /  does this actually work?
[02:20] <Nick___> but i dont have a 12.10 iso and i dont know where to find one
[02:20] <Rad-> download one from the internet Nick___
[02:20] <Nick___> i only saw ones for server
[02:20] <Nick___> from the ubuntu website at least
[02:20] <wow050> daftykins: Im getting a command not found error
[02:20] <Rad-> will you give me five dollars if i find one for you Nick___
[02:21] <Nick___> naw i know if i look i can find one
[02:21] <Nick___> its just late and im getting lazy for the day
[02:21] <daftykins> wow050: i don't think you're typing it right
[02:21] <Rad-> it's 22:21 where I'm at and I've been lazy this entire time. Just go find one Nick___
[02:21] <wow050> daftykins: I tried a different file in the same folder as well.
[02:21] <Nick___> alright
[02:21] <Nick___> i shall do that after this
[02:22] <Nick___> ah there
[02:22] <Nick___> im reinstalling video drivers
[02:22] <wow050> daftykins: This is what i typed when i naviagated to the folder "sudo ./Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.2.16-86992.vbox-extpack" without the quotes
[02:23] <Rad-> restart xorg after you reinstall Nick___
[02:23] <Nick___> cant i just reboot?
[02:23] <Rad-> also i'm only half paying attention because... i'm reading this: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/CTAN/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf
[02:23] <Rad-> you can. but it's esaiser to restart xorg i think
[02:23] <Nick___> well okay
[02:23] <Nick___> apt-get restart -xorg?
[02:23] <Rad-> no.
[02:23] <Nick___> yeah sorry im no good at terminal
[02:24] <Rad-> ps -a
[02:24] <Rad-> i'm guessing
[02:24] <Nick___> maybe ill just restart
[02:24] <Rad-> and tell me everything you see
[02:24] <Nick___> uh
[02:24] <Nick___> well okay
[02:24] <Nick___> ps -a xorg?
[02:24] <Rad-> just learn how to use linux Nick___ -_-
[02:24] <Rad-> no
[02:24] <Rad-> ps -a
[02:24] <wow050> daftykins: Does that command look right?
[02:24] <Nick___> okay well
[02:25] <Nick___> PID 1829 TTY ttyl1 TIME 0:00:00 CMD bash
[02:25] <Rad-> Nick___:  use a paste bin bro
[02:25] <Rad-> Nick___: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <Nick___> uh
[02:26] <daftykins> wow050: yeah, although are you sure it's how they say it's installed?
[02:26] <Nick___> okay then
[02:27] <wow050> daftykins: You dont have to run it in sudo to get it to open but it was suggested I do because it asks for an administrative password when I try to install it.
[02:27] <Nick___> PID   TTY      TIME    CMD
[02:27] <Nick___> 1829  tty1    0:00:00  bash
[02:27] <Nick___> 6682  tty1    0:00:00  ps
[02:27] <FloodBot1> Nick___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <Rad-> Nick___:  use a pastebin ffs
[02:27] <Nick___> oh
[02:27] <daftykins> wow050: i know i was the one that suggested it :'(
[02:28] <Nick___> well i already pasted it..
[02:29] <Nick___> anything?
[02:30] <wow050> daftykins: Oh ha ha! Well this is really strange, is there any other way I run it with sudo?
[02:30] <Nick___> still there rad?
[02:31] <Rad-> Nick___: give me a link?
[02:31] <Nick___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5991270/
[02:31] <Nick___> rebooting though
[02:32] <Rad-> Nick___: that's it?
[02:32] <Rad-> then type startx
[02:32] <Nick___> well..
[02:32] <Nick___> i booted into ubuntu
[02:32] <Nick___> so im all good now?
[02:32] <Nick___> sorry i just rebooted to see
[02:33] <daftykins> wow050: i really think you ought to look up how to use that thing properly, maybe if you even are supposed to be using that that way
[02:33] <Rad-> i guess. is shit working like you want it to Nick___
[02:33] <wow050> daftykins: Use what thing?
[02:33] <Nick___> well ubuntu booted up
[02:33] <Nick___> so yes
[02:33] <Rad-> well congratulations Nick___
[02:33] <Rad-> welcome to ubuntu
[02:33] <Nick___> i think ill spend the next few days looking at installing grub though
[02:33] <Nick___> er thankyou
[02:33] <Rad-> Nick___: you probably already have grub installed
[02:33] <Nick___> i was on ubuntu before, i just broke it today
[02:34] <Rad-> if you can reboot and get into linux fine
[02:34] <Rad-> you're set
[02:34] <Nick___> maybe but it didnt show up when i booted
[02:34] <Rad-> ..
[02:34] <Nick___> do i need to hold shift for that?
[02:35] <Nick___> should be automatic no?
[02:35] <Rad-> how many OS' do you have on ther system Nick___
[02:36] <Nick___> just windows 8, ubuntu 12.10
[02:36] <Rad-> hm.
[02:36] <Rad-> you might have to look into that UEFI thing
[02:36] <Nick___> well
[02:36] <Nick___> apparently ubuntu 12.10 was supposed to solve my problem
[02:36] <Rad-> no?
[02:36] <Nick___> because it could get passed secure boot
[02:36] <Rad-> you solve your own problems?
[02:36] <Nick___> as a signed OS
[02:37] <Rad-> yes well you have to do some setting up as well
[02:37] <Nick___> perhaps
[02:37] <Nick___> but ive only heard of configuring the bios
[02:37] <Nick___> which im unable to do
[02:37] <Nick___> you said i could do it in windows
[02:37] <Nick___> but i havnt read about that
[02:37] <Rad-> i didn't say that. daftykins said that i think
[02:37] <Nick___> oh sorry
[02:38] <Nick___> mm but yeah
[02:38] <Nick___> i dont know how to get around UEIF, because both OS need to be on the same bios correct
[02:38] <daftykins> nah i didn't say anything about using windows to change secure boot
[02:38] <daftykins> it's UEFI btw ;)
[02:38] <Nick___> sorry
[02:38] <daftykins> anywho heading for 4am, i really need to get away from here
[02:38] <daftykins> gl with it and laters all \o
[02:38] <Rad-> nooo
[02:38] <Nick___> bye dafy
[02:39] <wow050> daftykins: Here is a screenshot of the prompt it gives me http://i.imgur.com/C1zOTmM.jpg
[02:39] <Nick___> its okay rad, if you have no more information for me
[02:39] <Nick___> i can go
[02:39] <Rad-> daftykins was the one doing good tech support
[02:39] <Rad-> *shrugs* if you're good for now, go Nick___
[02:39] <Nick___> well
[02:39] <Rad-> wow050: what are the actual contents of that file, can you tell me?
[02:39] <Nick___> any closing comments for me and getting grub to work?
[02:39] <Rad-> Nick___: good luck reading documentation and good luck with ubuntu
[02:40] <Nick___> ah...well..
[02:40] <Nick___> alright then, ill let you go
[02:40] <wow050> Rad-: Its an extension pack for VirtualBox
[02:40] <Rad-> no
[02:40] <Nick___> and ill be back after some research if need be
[02:40] <Rad-> like the actual contents of the file wow050
[02:40] <Rad-> open it up in a text editor or something
[02:40] <Rad-> always double check files before you run it
[02:40] <wow050> Rad-: Ok,
[02:40] <Rad-> make sure it doesn't have anything stupid in it like 'sudo rm -rf /'
[02:42] <wow050> Rad- : Its an excecutable so its all a bunch of weird characters
[02:42] <Rad-> oh it's an exectuable not a shell script
[02:42] <Rad-> d'oh
[02:42] <Rad-> open up terminal and run it
[02:42] <somsip> wow050: what is the actual problem here? You can clearly run the file...
[02:42] <ChogyDan> are you trying to install virtualbox?
[02:43] <wow050> somsip: The problem is I dont know the password that its asking me for because my user password doesnt work.
[02:43] <wow050> Rad- : How would I run it in terminal?
[02:43] <Rad-> navigate to folder
[02:43] <Rad-> ./filename
[02:43] <somsip> wow050: do you want to install it as a user or as root?
[02:44] <somsip> Rad-: that will have the same result, no? It'll still get to the 'enter password' prompt as when it's double clicked
[02:44] <wow050> somsip: I would guess root so it will bypass asking for that password
[02:44] <somsip> wow050: sudo -i (then enter password) then execute as Rad- is telling you
[02:45] <somsip> wow050: actually, just sudo ./filename is probably enough...
[02:45] <Rad-> somsip: why do you need the -i
[02:46] <Rad-> somsip: sorry i don't know how to use GNOME
[02:46] <Rad-> lol
[02:46] <Rad-> terminal works fine so... i just kinda go with it
[02:46] <wow050> somsip: Got permission denied?
[02:46] <somsip> Rad-: only if the installer requires environmental variables for root to be used. Unlikely though. I confused the issue
[02:46] <Rad-> i doubt it somsip
[02:46] <Rad-> it's virtualbox
[02:46] <Rad-> lol
[02:46] <somsip> wow050: you got the message when you did what? Paste the command you used
[02:47] <ChogyDan> sudo -i is the standard advice
[02:47] <somsip> wow050: you are entering the password for the virtual machine and not the password for your host?
[02:48] <wow050> somsip: typed sudo i, entered pass, naviagted to folder, than typed ./Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.2.16-86992.vbox-extpack
[02:48] <Rad-> wow050: add sudo in front of the ./filename
[02:48] <somsip> wow050: is the VM running?
[02:48] <wow050> somsip: No the VM is not running.
[02:48] <mini> hi everyone
[02:48] <DoverMo> mini, hi
[02:49] <mini> hi Dover
[02:49] <wow050> rad-: When I type sudo ./Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.2.16-86992.vbox-extpack  I get the command not found error
[02:49] <Rad-> am i allowed to tell someone to sudo su?
[02:49] <mini> i just started using 13.04 and it looks very simple
[02:50] <somsip> Rad-: you can, but people should criticise you for it
[02:50] <DoverMo> mini, that's good
[02:50] <Rad-> somsip: tbh that's because i never figured out how to have sudo for a big command. so i just sudo su, then exit
[02:51] <somsip> wow050: try 'sudo VBoxManage extpack install Oracle....'
[02:51] <DoverMo> Rad-, once you enter sudo once, the terminal is supposed to remember that environment
[02:51] <somsip> Rad-: if you must enter a root shell, use sudo -i. And learn how to use sudo for big commands so you don't have to do this often
[02:51] <Rad-> DoverMo: doesn't work for piping iirc
[02:51] <mini> is it stable?
[02:51] <mini> i just use it for basic internet browsing
[02:51] <mini> i would like to use to create CDs with mp3s
[02:51] <mini> does youtube to mp3 work?
[02:51] <somsip> Rad-: man tee
[02:51] <FloodBot1> mini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <wow050> somsip: Where you typed orcale... is that where I would put the file name?
[02:52] <Rad-> somsip: i know what tee does but.. i thought it just outputs to two places?
[02:52] <somsip> wow050: yes
[02:52] <Rad-> i meant
[02:52] <DoverMo> Rad-, yeah. remembering sudo isn't an old feature
[02:52] <Rad-> sudo 'this command needs sudo'| 'thiscommandneedssudo too'
[02:52] <DoverMo> mini, yeah you can do all of that
[02:52] <Rad-> do i sudo in both places?
[02:52] <Rad-> because it always falis  for me lol
[02:52] <somsip> Rad-: echo 'something' | sudo tee /protected/file
[02:53] <Rad-> hrm
[02:53] <Rad-> meh. i think hardware diagnostics is failing too
[02:53] <Rad-> -___-
[02:54] <somsip> wow050: or try from inside VirtualBox using this guide http://is.gd/jIeI4D
[02:54] <ChogyDan> wow050: you can also, in vbox, go to file > preferences > extensions, and install the file there  (so im reading)
[02:54] <somsip> ChogyDan: snap :)
[02:55] <ChogyDan> somsip: you beat me  :)
[02:55] <Rad-> lol ChogyDan
[02:55] <Rad-> none of us read the documentationＸＤ
[02:55] <somsip> ChogyDan: clever thing this Google. I think they're on to something with that service...
[02:55] <Rad-> i was just going on what the last guy said
[02:56] <wow050> somsip: I think that command did the trick! Thank you!
[02:56] <somsip> Rad-: People who don't know answers dont read documentation.
[02:56] <somsip> wow050: np. It was paining me to see the struggle. Now I must get back to work
[02:56] <Rad-> lol
[02:56] <DoverMo> mini, do you need help with what packages you need?
[02:56] <Rad-> somsip: i read documentaiton and still don't know answers QQ
[02:56] <wow050> somsip: It was paining me as well. Almost 3 hours just to fix a virtual machine... FML
[02:57] <somsip> wow050: you learned that the easy answer was on the 'how to install extension packs' webpage for virtual box. Hint, hint
[02:57] <Rad-> it's okay wow050 . i'm in my second hour trying to figure out why my computer won't boot, let me into bios, or anything like that
[02:59] <Rad-> ah after running basic tets it let me into bios yay
[03:00] <Rad-> now let's see if it will let me boot from cd-rom!
[03:01] <nix\> Hello people, what is the equivalent for dpkg to the rpm -qi (query information of package)?
[03:01] <nix\> If i execute rpm -qi package gives me the information, version, host builder, etc
[03:01] <nix\> dpkg how works?
[03:02] <somsip> nix\: man dpkg-query might help you
[03:02] <nix\> rypervenche ctcp version :) no version of my irc client
[03:02] <nix\> CTCP TIME of rypervenche
[03:02] <nix\>  CTCP VERSION of rypervenche
[03:02] <rypervenche> lol
[03:02] <nix\> somsip: thank you
[03:08] <ChogyDan> nix\: also, apt-cache
[03:09] <ChogyDan> nix\: ie, apt-cache show <package-name>
[03:09] <nix\> ohhhhhhh
[03:09] <nix\> yes ChogyDan !!
[03:10] <ni291187> hi, I'm playing dota 2 on steam and my computer has almost frozen. ctrl esc does not work, but when I move my mouse it occasionally moves. this has happened before but never this bad. I used ctrl alt f# to try to log in, it won't work. I can type but no command works, not even my login name. ctrl c works though
[03:11] <v1areel> what Ubuntu version are you running?
[03:12] <ni291187> 13.04 and xubuntu desktop
[03:12] <v1areel> what GPU you running?
[03:12] <Rad-> still cannot get my computer to boot from cd. wtf is wrong with UEFI?
[03:12] <ni291187> gtx 660
[03:12] <v1areel> ah
[03:13] <v1areel> try to get the beta drivers, the latest WHQL doesn't like Ubuntu 13.04
[03:13] <ni291187> whql?
[03:13] <v1areel> stable
[03:13] <ni291187> but how do I close dota 2 without a hard reset?
[03:13] <v1areel> released by Nvidia
[03:14] <v1areel> Ctrl+C doesn't do it?
[03:14] <ni291187> nope
[03:15] <ni291187> I'm running very slowly and I normally use ctrl esc to minimize dota
[03:15] <ni291187> nothing works, and ctrl alt f# takes a minute to change
[03:16] <v1areel> and assuming you've tried traditional Alt+F4,?
[03:16] <ni291187> I haven't
[03:16] <v1areel> try that real quick
[03:16] <v1areel> also, can you get to the desktop?
[03:16] <ni291187> nothing
[03:16] <ni291187> no
[03:17] <ni291187> my screen is black and I see e mouse that's very sluggishly moving
[03:17] <v1areel> hrmm
[03:18] <v1areel> try Alt+F2
[03:18] <v1areel> does anything come up?
[03:18] <ni291187> nope
[03:19] <ni291187> I can try SHS login
[03:19] <ni291187> SHS
[03:19] <v1areel> how about Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:19] <v1areel> ?
[03:19] <ni291187> ssh
[03:19] <etyrnal> ahhhh!  ubuntu keeps intercepting ALT+right-click from my applications!!
[03:19] <v1areel> xD
[03:19] <v1areel> lel
[03:19] <ni291187> that works but it takes time
[03:19] <v1areel> Ctrl+Alt+F2?
[03:19] <v1areel> Ctrl+Alt+F1?*
[03:19] <ni291187> it takes a minute for that to work
[03:20] <v1areel> but it works?
[03:20] <ni291187> yes
[03:20] <v1areel> type ps -A
[03:20] <v1areel> in the console
[03:20] <ni291187> but when I'm there, typing is leggy and nothing seems to work
[03:20] <v1areel> and then kill -9 (PID)
[03:20] <v1areel> try those commands real wuick
[03:20] <ni291187> laggy. worry this ipad irc client auto corrects
[03:20] <v1areel> lol
[03:21] <ni291187> I can't even log in when I do ctrl alt f3
[03:21] <v1areel> the commands didn't work?
[03:21] <somsip> ni291187: maybe not related to your problem, but this has hints on what you can check after you've killed it https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2/issues/58
[03:22] <v1areel> yea saw that earlier from Google
[03:22] <ni291187> I get a blinking underscore under the login screen, in fact, I have a other instance where I'm logged in but I get the same problem there
[03:22] <ni291187> however, ctrl c works
[03:22] <v1areel> that's pretty much the only way to kill it then?
[03:22] <hazardous> hi
[03:22] <v1areel> if that closes out of it, then what is the issue?
[03:22] <v1areel> hello hazardous
[03:22] <hazardous> does anyone know if i can set reserved ports or something? i have some services on high port numbers that restart constantly
[03:22] <hazardous> and someimtes that port is used or in TIME_WAIT
[03:23] <hazardous> so bind fails
[03:23] <utfans05> hazardous, you may be able to go into the config files for that service and set it.
[03:23] <ni291187> hmmmm.... ok I waited out the login screen, after typing my user name, it goes back in to the login user name segment, does not even ask for password
[03:23] <hazardous> utfans05: no, i mean - the OS is using it for outbound ports or something
[03:23] <v1areel> as long as a zombie task (or active task, obviously) is running, it will take the port
[03:23] <v1areel> what ports?
[03:23] <somsip> hazardous: what ports?
[03:23] <hazardous> 60042
[03:23] <hazardous> 59380
[03:24] <hazardous> it's not listening, but using it to make an outbound connection
[03:24] <v1areel> Are you running some type of SQL or DB?
[03:24] <hazardous> yeah
[03:24] <ni291187> v1, it says login timed out after 60 seconds
[03:24] <v1areel> weird
[03:24] <v1areel> hazardous, TCP or UDP?
[03:24] <hazardous> tcp
[03:25] <somsip> hazardous: this suggests that you should be under 49152 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[03:25] <hazardous> but i've already used everything from 10000 to 49152
[03:25] <hazardous> well crap
[03:26] <hazardous> guess ill buy a /24 or something then
[03:26] <somsip> hazardous: I might be ready it wrong, but it suggests not to use these as they might get reused
[03:26] <somsip> *reading
[03:26] <hazardous> ! assert failed
[03:26] <hazardous> ! can't bind to 0.0.0.0:59380, Unknown (pid 0) is using it (10.42.0.32.59380 -> 10.0.42.153.28015)
[03:26] <hazardous> TIME_WAIT doesn't seem to have a process
[03:26] <v1areel> well how'd use use up 39.152 ports?!
[03:27] <hazardous> each player + npc on my gameserver gets their own port assigned on staroh my god i write terrible, disgusting code
[03:27] <v1areel> *39,152 ports
[03:27] <ni291187> I ended up hard resetting, I just lost all my side work I did not save
[03:27] <mini> does linux get trojans? how can i check my system?
[03:27] <v1areel> not really, mini
[03:27] <v1areel> unless you're running it as root constantly
[03:27] <somsip> mini: it's possible
[03:27] <somsip> !av | mini
[03:28] <somsip> mini: not the factoid I was expecting. It may help though
[03:28] <mini> this is a recent 13.04 upgrade
[03:28] <v1areel> why I don't recommend 13.04
[03:28] <v1areel> :p
[03:28] <mini> somsip i will read it thank you
[03:28] <mini> 13.10 better?
[03:28] <somsip> mini: if you are not sharing with windows computers and not running external servers, it is unlikely you will get something.
[03:29] <mini> ok it is stable now but to get to upgrade from 12.04 really took me somedays
[03:29] <hazardous> also, is it possible to increase open files/file descriptors or something? i routinely hit my 55000 limit and the system dies with fork() errors
[03:30] <mini> ?
[03:30] <v1areel> WTF are you using your server for? Sweet Jesus
[03:30] <v1areel> 12.04 is what I use
[03:30] <v1areel> still
[03:30] <v1areel> runs very well
[03:30] <mini> 12.04 and 12.10 worked fine
[03:30] <v1areel> exactly
[03:30] <v1areel> why I prefer iot
[03:30] <somsip> hazardous: ulimit -a reports current setting, ulimit -n sets and requires a logout (I think)
[03:31] <v1areel> hazardous: seriously, what are you using this server for?!
[03:31] <hazardous> v1areel: web
[03:31] <hazardous> i'm serving around 15000 hits/sec
[03:31] <hazardous> actually more at times
[03:32] <hazardous> somsip: ulimit -n 500000 -> open files                      (-n) 11095
[03:32] <somsip> hazardous: cograts on keeping it going so far :)
[03:32] <hazardous> do i have to increase kern.maxfilesperproc too?
[03:32] <somsip> hazardous: Given the critical nature of what you're doing, I'd suggest you second (or third) source all information for this.
[03:33] <hazardous> somsip: oh it isn't critical
[03:33] <hazardous> if it fails a single request it's removed from the cluster automatically and i can just work on it
[03:33] <somsip> hazardous: I've increased limits with ulimit before, but not ono productions ervers with 15k hits/sec ;)
[03:33] <v1areel> only 15,000 hitss/ec
[03:33] <v1areel> -.-
[03:34] <hazardous> http://i.snag.gy/Rag1l.jpg
[03:34] <hazardous> what is thatsupposed to tell me D:
[03:34] <v1areel> lol
[03:34] <v1areel> jesus bro
[03:35] <hazardous> what :|
[03:36] <v1areel> are you sure you're not being DOSd BTW?
[03:36] <hazardous> how can i check
[03:36] <v1areel> hmm
[03:36] <v1areel> can't really
[03:36] <hazardous> $ netstat -an | wc -l
[03:36] <hazardous> 208568
[03:37] <hazardous> i really wish i could hire a sysadmin or something instead of trying to run everyhting myself
[03:37] <hazardous> ugh
[03:37] <v1areel> I guess if you edit some PhP code, you can check if all port traffic is legitimate requests
[03:37] <v1areel> that's what we're here for xD
[03:37] <hazardous> it pretty much is
[03:37] <hazardous> i use incapsula and they strip out almost all bot/spider/"malformed http header" traffic
[03:38] <v1areel> well you definately have a sh**load of traffic xD
[03:38] <v1areel> what is your site exactly?
[03:38] <hazardous> i'm doing around 360mbit outbound of purely JSON text
[03:38] <hazardous> lol
[03:38] <v1areel> my god
[03:39] <somsip> hazardous: what is the site then? address?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:09] <utfans05> morning
[04:09] <onats> hey guys is there a way to allow ftp access to a user to a directory not located in his/her home?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> onats: if you config another folder, depending on wich program
[04:11] <onats> vsftpd?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> onats: try #vsftpd
[04:12] <onats> or any other program
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> onats: im sure any ftp can be configged for other location folder
[04:12] <onats> yeah thats what I'm trying to figure out
[04:12] <somsip> onats: symlink with correct permissions on the destination directory?
[04:12] <onats> did a symlink, and its a file that is seen..
[04:13] <somsip> onats: k - worth a punt
[04:13] <onats> oh wait, it works. i was testing with chrome browser
[04:13] <onats> using an ftp client, I'm able to access.
[04:14] <onats> somsip: haha yep. that works.
[04:14] <somsip> onats: heh
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | somsip
[04:16] <grateful> i somehow installed an onscreen keyboard
[04:16] <grateful> but i don't think its onboard
[04:16] <somsip> lotuspsychje: I shall have it framed ;)
[04:16] <hopeless> is there anybody here that can tell me how to get ubuntu working properly?
[04:16] <somsip> !notworking | hopeless
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !details | hopeless
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> somsip: :p you will need a big frame
[04:17] <hopeless> i cant get my drivers straight
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> hopeless: drivers of your...
[04:17] <utfans05> hopeless, we  need all the details.
[04:17] <hopeless> i think im a little overwhelmed
[04:18] <hopeless> nvidia drivers
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | hopeless
[04:18] <utfans05> hopeless, what have you already tried?
[04:19] <hopeless> i look through the tutorial but my command line dont seem to be the same
[04:19] <hopeless> lines*
[04:20] <somsip> hopeless: usually the answer is to just install nvidia-current. There are exceptions to this, and most people overcomplicate by wanting newer, shinier drivers
[04:20] <hopeless> hence the name hopeless
[04:20] <hopeless> im trying to run minecraft
[04:21] <somsip> hopeless: so what have you done so far?
[04:21] <hopeless> the ubuntu drivers wont work for some reason
[04:21] <leaf_watoru> hopeless, you can try do download driver for your video card from nvidia official site, then install mc: sudo apt-get install mc. then press alt+control+f1 and write sudo mc
[04:21] <leaf_watoru> here you can write service lightdm stop
[04:22] <hopeless> i have the nvidia driver
[04:22] <leaf_watoru> then find driver from nvidia, mark it executable in menu/rights(extended) and install it
[04:22] <leaf_watoru> what driver you have?
[04:22] <utfans05> if you type nvid and press tab twice what shows up?
[04:23] <leaf_watoru> i mean something like this: i have 319 driver
[04:23] <hopeless> where do i type?
[04:23] <leaf_watoru> in terminal
[04:23] <hopeless> it says nvidia
[04:24] <hopeless> nvidia-
[04:24] <utfans05> so some driver is installed. what is it not doing that you want it to?
[04:24] <hopeless> yeah i guess?
[04:25] <hopeless> it wont run ay of my games
[04:25] <utfans05> what game?
[04:25] <somsip> hopeless: where did you get it from and how did you install it
[04:25] <hopeless> minecraft
[04:25] <leaf_watoru> maybe its not driver fault
[04:26] <hopeless> maybe not
[04:26] <utfans05> so if you launch minecraft what does it do?
[04:26] <leaf_watoru> try to open terminal and write there mine then press tab
[04:26] <hopeless> it crashes at the load screen
[04:26] <leaf_watoru> then choose minecraft or something and press enter
[04:27] <utfans05> hopeless, do what leaf_watoru  said
[04:28] <hopeless> well thats new?
[04:28] <hopeless> An error occurred while loading the archive.
[04:29] <Bjond> hopeless: well thats gnu
[04:29] <MrKeuner> hello, top in ubuntu shows only the processes in that display or something, how can I see all running processes/
[04:29] <MrKeuner> ?
[04:29] <somsip> MrKeuner: ps aux
[04:29] <leaf_watoru> after game crashes copy to here what terminal says
[04:29] <MrKeuner> somsip, in top?
[04:30] <holstein> MrKeuner: you run "ps aux" in a terminal
[04:30] <MrKeuner> I'd like to see them in top
[04:30] <somsip> MrKeuner: try resorting it to get others at the top?
[04:30] <MrKeuner> somsip, top does not show them at all
[04:30] <somsip> MrKeuner: press ? to see the help page
[04:30] <hopeless> i cant even run it now
[04:31] <utfans05> can you paste the output of teminal after you treid to run minecraft from terminal?
[04:31] <somsip> MrKeuner: what processes are you hoping to see?
[04:31] <hopeless> how do i run from trminal
[04:31] <holstein> hopeless: test the grahpics driver separately.. see that you have it installed and working properly.. now you dont know if the issue is with the driver/system or game
[04:32] <leaf_watoru> do you have optimus support in your nvidia card?
[04:32] <leaf_watoru> if yes, did you installed bumblee?
[04:32] <leaf_watoru> or you just activated driver in hardware support menu?
[04:33] <hopeless> can anyone do a remote view of my computer?
[04:33] <MrKeuner> somsip, hehe nevermind, I was listing just the active processes... thought it was listing only the processes runnning in that display
[04:34] <somsip> MrKeuner: k
[04:34] <hopeless> -
[04:35] <Ben64> hopeless: just follow what people are saying
[04:35] <hopeless> i do not want to go back to windows but i think im in over my head
[04:35] <holstein> hopeless: not likely any volunteer wanting to do "remote viewing"
[04:35] <holstein> hopeless: have you confirmed the driver is installed and working?
[04:36] <hopeless> idk how honestly
[04:36] <ctcb> Ubuntu is driving my crazy. So, I zero out my USB Stick (using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M), I then pull it in and out, then open gparted, select NTFS as the partition and save it, closing gparted, I then pull the stick in and out again, and write my ISO to the drive (using dd bs=1M if=W864.iso of=/dev/sdb), I pull my USB stick in and out one final time to save the changes, but when I go back to GParted, it says the USB
[04:36] <ctcb> Stick is unallocated, so I can't add the Boot Flag to it.
[04:37] <holstein> hopeless: i use "glxgears" from the mesa-utils package
[04:37] <utfans05> ctcb, do you have a windows pc aroud. stick it in there and wipe it.
[04:37] <ctcb> utfans05, I need to make this USB Stick to fix my Windows PC, I killed it, by accidentally overwriting boot files for it.
[04:37] <hopeless> in the store?
[04:37] <utfans05> ouch.
[04:38] <waterlite> s/clear
[04:38] <holstein> hopeless: i issue this command from the terminal.. "glxgears".. if that runs, the 3d is possible
[04:38] <utfans05> ctcb, gparted then delete the partion and recreate it?
[04:38] <hopeless> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[04:39] <holstein> hopeless: so, you can stop trying to run a 3d game, til you get the driver sorted out
[04:39] <holstein> hopeless: what hardware do you have?
[04:39] <ctcb> utfans05, gparted won't do that unless it's zeroed, since the ISO makes the drive sort of read-only.
[04:39] <hopeless> yeah
[04:39] <leaf_watoru> what model of video card you have
[04:39] <Aravindgeek> ctcb: sudo sync  to flush writtings
[04:39] <leaf_watoru> e.g. i have nvidia gt 510M
[04:40] <hopeless> amd 64 nvidia nforce
[04:40] <utfans05> ctcb, I dont have my linux box with me to test it on my usb. hrm.
[04:40] <ctcb> Okay, I'm zeroing it again.
[04:40] <ctcb> I need the boot flag on the drive or my the Stick won't boot. XD
[04:41] <ctcb> I'd rather use Rufus, but that's Windows only.
[04:41] <loganlee> i think linux sucks
[04:41] <leaf_watoru> write sudo lshw " grep nvidia in terminal
[04:41] <loganlee> but windows is worse
[04:41] <leaf_watoru> i mean sudo lshw | grep nvidia
[04:41] <holstein> !ot | loganlee
[04:41] <somsip> ctcb: off course, but is it worth trying unetbootin?
[04:41] <holstein> i use unetbootin
[04:42] <hopeless> configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[04:43] <leaf_watoru> :( seems thats not that command
[04:43] <ctcb> somsip, I did try that, but when I tried to boot it, it gave me a screen with Default on it, and wouldn't let me boot the windows iso.
[04:43] <leaf_watoru> you have notebook or pc?
[04:44] <leaf_watoru> if notebook, is there stick about nvidia
[04:44] <Aravindgeek> ctcb : unetbootin wont work with windows iso.
[04:44] <leaf_watoru> there should be info about video card
[04:44] <somsip> ctcb: k - worth a try. i don't have enough experience of it to help you troubleshoot that
[04:44] <utfans05> ctcb do you have the windows iso?
[04:44] <hopeless> i played minecraft ors a whole day i shutdown went to bed and when i tried to play again it crashed
[04:45] <ctcb> utfans05, Yes, I do, directly from Microsoft.
[04:45] <holstein> ctcb: i would ask them how you are supposed to use it
[04:45] <leaf_watoru> did you installed some updates?
[04:45] <utfans05> ctcb, have you tried to just dd it to the drive?
[04:45] <hopeless> i dont think so
[04:45] <ctcb> utfans05, Yep, nothing happens, I don't think the drive is boot flagged, though.
[04:45] <somsip> ctcb: you have tried it in the windows laptop to see if it actually fails to boot and not just assumed it wont?
[04:46] <ctcb> somsip, I tried loading it, black screen with a white cursor for like 5 seconds, then it tried to boot my dead hard drive.
[04:46] <hopeless> i uninstalled all the drivers this morning and it ran but slow
[04:46] <utfans05> ctcb try this       dd if=winfile of=/dev/sd(usb) oflag=direct bs=2M
[04:46] <holstein> hopeless: the game ran?
[04:46] <iceroot_> utfans05: will not work, windows isos are not multi-isos
[04:47] <hopeless> yeah
[04:47] <somsip> ctcb: k. searches mostly suggest the approch you have or unetbootin. But also, winusb on this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu
[04:47] <holstein> hopeless: then, thats how it will run..
[04:47] <leaf_watoru> so then you just installed drivers again?
[04:47] <holstein> hopeless: go back to that, and troubleshoot the game with the developer.. try other versions of it.. and java
[04:47] <hopeless> but i did it again and it and it didnt
[04:48] <holstein> hopeless: then, try again, *exactly* as you did before
[04:48] <ctcb> holstein, On the website they basically said "Write this to a DVD and It'll boot!", but I can't do that.
[04:48] <ctcb> Since my PC doesn't have a CD or DVD Drive.
[04:48] <iceroot_> ctcb: please ask microsoft how to create a bootable usb stick with windows
[04:48] <holstein> ctcb: sure.. but you are assuming its able to boot from USB..
[04:48] <iceroot_> ctcb: offtopic here
[04:48] <Aravindgeek>  cctb : have a look at this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[04:48] <hopeless> how do i delete all the drivers
[04:48] <leaf_watoru> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia
[04:49] <holstein> ctcb: that is not our iso.. you get support from them about how you are to use it.. if it says 'write to disc', then, that is all that is guranteed
[04:49] <somsip> ctcb: winusb may be worth a try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tag/winusb-ubuntu
[04:49] <hopeless> : Unable to locate package nvidia
[04:49] <ctcb> holstein, My friend was able to get his to work on a USB Stick from windows. But, I don't have access to his stick, or windows right now.
[04:49] <leaf_watoru> try nvidia*
[04:50] <holstein> ctcb: then, ask your friend, or microsoft.. its not an ubuntu or caonnonical related issue or product that the volunteers can help you with here
[04:51] <ctcb> holstein, My view is that this is an ubuntu problem, since the OS itself isn't doing the task I'm giving it.
[04:51] <ctcb> If I went to microsoft, they'd probably say it was an Ubuntu problem.
[04:51] <chilli-salad> in ufw logs, what is difference between "audit" and "block". I want it to block on a certain port, yet it sometimes says "audit" for addresses I don't want. It's been difficult to find into on ufw log messages.
[04:52] <iceroot_> ctcb: could we stop this ms stuff? we dont care about ms
[04:52] <holstein> ctcb: they might say "we dont allow the product to be booted from USB"
[04:52] <Aravindgeek> ctcb : calm down. did you tried winusb in ubuntu
[04:52] <chilli-salad> *to find info on
[04:52] <leaf_watoru> btw what ubuntu version you have?
[04:52] <iceroot_> ctcb: ##windows
[04:52] <holstein> ctcb: its not on topic here, friend.. its a windows disc.. for a windows install CD..
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | chilli-salad
[04:52] <somsip> Aravindgeek: ctcb: already suggested that twice but no response... My help ends there
[04:53] <chilli-salad> lotuspsychje, yes I've looked there but they don't really tell much about log messages. I've googled for into on the difference between "audit" and "block", but haven't had much luck. I think the documentation on ufw log messages is lacking.
[04:54] <chilli-salad> sometimes I see "audit" for an address I'm allowing.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> chilli-salad: man ufw shows logging info
[04:56] <chilli-salad> so really I see "audit" for both addresses allowed as well as blocked. But it only does it occasionally. It seems to be part of how ufw works, but I don't know exactly what it's doing.
[04:57] <chilli-salad> lotuspsychje, nothing in there about audit messages
[04:57] <chilli-salad> like I've said, it's been very difficult to find info on this. It's like no one's interested.
[04:58] <Aravindgeek> chilli-salad: contact developers mailing list
[04:58] <leaf_watoru> hopeless, are you alive?
[04:58] <chilli-salad> that may be the way to go.
[04:59] <utfans05> chilli-salad, so you have then set as blocked and audited?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> chilli-salad: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143371/what-do-ufws-audit-log-entries-mean
[05:00] <chilli-salad> utfans05, I occasionally see "audit" for both IP addresses that I allow as well as block. Most of the time it says "blocked" for the one's I've blocked.
[05:00] <utfans05> chilli-salad, the issue is I strictly use uptables. Its what I know.
[05:01] <utfans05> chilli-salad, but it would seem that if they are being audited you may want to check your rules just to double check you dont have duplicates.
[05:02] <chilli-salad> utfans05, what does it mean that they are being audited?
[05:03] <chilli-salad> looking at my logs, it appears that for a port that I allowed all in on, always says "audit" when an address accessed it, and was allowed in.
[05:03] <chilli-salad> whereas ports that I only allowed specific IP addresses, it says "allow".
[05:04] <utfans05> chilli-salad, try reading this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/143371/what-do-ufws-audit-log-entries-mean
[05:05] <chilli-salad> utfans05, been there already. Note what the user said: "that's a guess, and I can't seem to find anything concrete with that."
[05:05] <utfans05> yeah.
[05:06] <chilli-salad> the documentation isn't good enough is what I'm thinking.
[05:06] <utfans05> yeah.
[05:11] <ubuntutis> anyone know how i could fix network manager
[05:11] <snql> reinstall it
[05:12] <snql> and clear all data
[05:12] <ubuntutis> that wont work
[05:13] <Aravindgeek> ubuntutis : what is the problem first? sudo apt-get --purge pkg_name to remove config files.
[05:13] <lataku> anyone know wich kernel will be shipped with 13.10 release?
[05:14] <lataku> 3.11 by any chance?
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | lataku
[05:16] <ubuntutis> the problem is that after my lid is closed a couple of times i cant connect to any other connection
[05:20]  * ctcb hugs Aravindgeek
[05:20] <ctcb> WinUSB works! :D
[05:22] <Aravindgeek> ubuntutis: can you try with live disc?
[05:23] <Aravindgeek> to identify whether the problem with n/w or s/w.
[05:26] <waterlite> hi Aravindgeek
[05:29] <eolo65> ciao
[05:29] <eolo65> list
[05:29] <eolo65> \list
[05:30] <eolo65> !list
[05:32] <ubuntu> hey
[05:43] <Aravindgeek> waterlite : why a CTCP version request
[05:45] <dr_willis_> hmm
[05:45] <waterlite> oh sorry
[05:48] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[05:48] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[05:49] <whodi> hey
[05:49] <whodi> erry one
[05:55] <dr_willis_> jello
[06:03] <Marlenee]> where can i downlaod ubuntu games for bash
[06:04] <whodi> idk where can i talk to anon
[06:04] <cution> clfd
[06:04] <whodi> whats clfd
[06:04] <whodi> ?
[06:05] <whodi> hey
[06:05] <reisio> Marlenee]: moon-buggy
[06:06] <whodi> whats moon buggy
[06:06] <reisio> a game for "bash"
[06:06] <whodi> o ok how do i talk to anon
[06:06] <whodi> ?
[06:07] <cution> who the hell is anon?
[06:07] <Hexagonite> How do you play YouTube HTML5 on Chromium?
[06:08] <reisio> Hexagonite: probably need ffmpeg and a couple other things
[06:08] <Hexagonite> reisio: some guy says I need to install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg, but it doesn't exist
[06:09] <reisio> Hexagonite: mmm, he probably just made that up
[06:09] <mark__> hi..i need to share folders between vmware od ubuntu with windows7 ?
[06:09] <Hexagonite> reisio: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg But apt-get couldn't find it
[06:09] <reisio> mark__: pardon?
[06:09] <reisio> Hexagonite: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:09] <Hexagonite> reisio: 12.04
[06:10] <mark__> 12.04
[06:10] <reisio> Hexagonite: odd
[06:10] <reisio> Hexagonite: better double-check you have universe enabled, anyways
[06:10] <reisio> mark__: pardon?
[06:10] <mark__> reisio:  i need to share folders between vmware od ubuntu with windows7 ?
[06:11] <reisio> mark__: is vmware 'od' a thing?
[06:11] <mark__> reisio:virtual machine of ubuntuu
[06:11] <whodi> hey
[06:11] <reisio> mark__: so Windows host, Ubuntu guest?
[06:12] <reisio> whodi: hi
[06:12] <mark__> yes
[06:12] <whodi> idk wat this all is lol
[06:12] <reisio> whodi: good times
[06:12] <reisio> mark__: you'll probably want vmware tools, for starters
[06:13] <reisio> mark__: see #vmware for the rest
[06:13] <dr_willis_> samba should work for  vmware. mark__  also
[06:13] <whodi> vmware?
[06:13] <Hexagonite> reisio: erm, what's 'Received CTCP VERSION'?
[06:13] <reisio> whodi: did I stutter?
[06:13] <reisio> Hexagonite: /ctcp reisio version
[06:13] <mark__> dr_willis_: should i install samba
[06:14] <whodi> no not at all just didnt know wat it was
[06:14] <reisio> whodi: ah
[06:14] <dr_willis_> mark__:  if you want a windows accessing shares on linux.. yes
[06:14] <reisio> whodi: it's a proprietary hardware virtualization application
[06:14] <dr_willis_> mark__: theres otherways to transfer files
[06:14] <reisio> including more appropriate ones
[06:14] <mark__> dr_willis_: what?
[06:15] <whodi> ok lol  still dont know but ill get it
[06:15] <dr_willis_> mark__:  what what?
[06:15] <reisio> whodi: good, good
[06:15] <mark__> dr_willis_: theres otherways to transfer files
[06:15] <dr_willis_> mark__:  correct.. theres ways other then samba to transfer files between 2 machines
[06:16] <dr_willis_> ftp, sftp, ssh, nfs,
[06:16] <dr_willis_> many of the  vm's out there also have theor own special 'share' methods
[06:16] <mark__> yes:
[06:17] <krey_> o/, sorry if this is the wrong place to be asking this question: I'm thinking of leaving skype and I'm looking for alternatives that would allow me to call phones and send texts. do you guys have any leads?
[06:17] <dr_willis_> krey_:  googles voice thing lets you do that.
[06:17] <somsip> krey_: I used jitsi for a while. Wasn't bad. See !poll
[06:18] <dr_willis_> !voip
[06:18] <whodi> file:///home/ubuntu/Pictures/Screenshot%20from%202013-08-16%2006:16:49.png
[06:18] <whodi> is that it
[06:19] <dr_willis_> whodi:  that url wont do us any good..
[06:19] <nowayride> Need to upload to something like imgur.com
[06:19] <whodi> can u click on it
[06:19] <nowayride> No because it's a local file
[06:19] <dr_willis_> whodi:  NO we can not click on it.
[06:19] <dr_willis_> ;)
[06:19] <whodi> ok
[06:19] <whodi> lol
[06:19] <dr_willis_> whodi:  that url wont do us any good..     <<< -- thats why i said..
[06:19] <krey_> dr_willis_, somsip, ubottu: I try to keep away from google anything, but I've installed jitsi. I understand I have to find a company that provides the phonecalls and text messages. but how do I found them? what are they called?
[06:19] <nowayride> Well we can click it but it won't do anything at all.. upload to imgur.com or something
[06:19] <nowayride> Or run a temp python http server heh
[06:19] <dr_willis_> krey_:  no idea. I use googles... i dont se eany reason to not use their free service
[06:20] <somsip> krey_: You need to find other ways to research these things then. i'm back to work...
[06:20] <krey_> dr_willis_: they're evil? :(
[06:20] <dr_willis_> krey_:  'SIP' providers perhaps?
[06:20] <dr_willis_> krey_:  cant say ive ever noticed...
[06:21] <xmetal> i dont use google anymore here
[06:21] <nowayride> I don't get the whole "they're evil" thing, if the whole privacy thing there's no such thing as privacy on the internet
[06:22] <dr_willis_> internet is paid for by ads. ;)
[06:22] <dr_willis_> which i block...
[06:23] <krey_> thx guys, I'll look into SIP providers
[06:24] <chilli-salad> krey_, I'm also interested in that.
[06:24] <whodi> idk wat im doing can u take over n do it please
[06:24] <Mace268> is 387.54 MB/sec good for an SSD? (via hdparm)
[06:24] <dr_willis_> whodi:  we have no idea what you are wanting to do... whats your ubuntu related problem?
[06:24] <chilli-salad> krey_, yeah, based on what I've looked into SIP is the protocol that seems to be most successful open source
[06:24] <dr_willis_> Mace268:  would depend on the ssd drive.. they can vary in performance.
[06:24] <dr_willis_> hdparms test - is juat a very general benchmark.
[06:24] <whodi> nvm idk lol
[06:25] <dr_willis_> !support | whodi
[06:25] <krey_> chilli-salad: sweet, so do you know any reasonable SIP providers? I think the biggest issue with leaving skype is not having a readymade alternative
[06:25] <dr_willis_> !alternatives
[06:25] <chilli-salad> I found some that looked decent, have to find them again.
[06:25] <whodi> ok this is all anon
[06:25] <dr_willis_> hmm.. theres several  'alternatives to ...' type web sites out there
[06:26] <chilli-salad> krey_, perhaps the OpenSIPS team can be pretty good. I can't say for sure, though: http://opensips.org/
[06:26] <chilli-salad> krey_, look at right side of page, it has login and signup.
[06:26] <dr_willis_> whodi:  your isp is 'charter' it seems.. and your ip is ......
[06:27] <krey_> chilli-salad, no, this seems to be the wrong sort of thing, I can't find call / text rates
[06:28] <dr_willis_> whodi:  do you havee an actual ubuntu support related question or problem?
[06:28] <whodi> 192.168.1.103
[06:28] <BikelessNigga> Best game for ubuntu?????
[06:29] <Mace268> impossible to answer
[06:29] <qingsong> Is this fun?
[06:30] <reisio> Mace268: ^ your cue
[06:30] <BikelessNigga> Which is best for watching gay master porn securily untu or windows??
[06:30] <reisio> BikelessNigga: nethack
[06:30] <reisio> BikelessNigga: Ubuntu, easily
[06:30] <BikelessNigga> Thx
[06:30] <Mace268> :>
[06:31] <whodi> 192.168.1.103
[06:31] <qingsong> exit
[06:32] <dr_willis_> whodi:   you got a ubuntu question?
[06:33] <chilli-salad> krey_, I found some by looking up "skype alternatives". VoxOx listed here looks interesting, although I don't how good they are about privacy: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fed-up-with-skype-here-are-6-of-the-best-free-alternatives/
[06:33] <whodi> idk i just want to figure this all out
[06:33] <hazardous> there are no skype alternatives
[06:33] <hazardous> if you're looking for usability and ease
[06:33] <whodi> is this anon?
[06:35] <chilli-salad> whodi, type this in, without the quotes, and ask in there: "/join ##freenode"
[06:36] <alfreddba> am using ubuntu 12.04.. i want to install ipmessenger...i tried to install but not working...so pls guide me...
[06:36] <chilli-salad> hazardous, have you tried other alternatives?
[06:37] <whodi> "/join ##freenode#
[06:37] <dr_willis_> !irc | whodi
[06:37] <chilli-salad> I've been looking into running my own VOIP server just for fun. There's a helluva lot of research to do just so I know what I'm doing.
[06:38] <chilli-salad> VOIP servers are more complex than I thought they'd be.
[06:38] <dr_willis_> its /join #freenode             whodi
[06:38] <chilli-salad> whodi seems like a troll
[06:38] <chilli-salad> lol has xchat version 0.3.0
[06:38] <whodi> troll?
[06:39] <whodi> no i am not trust me. lol
[06:41] <dr_willis_>    u
[06:43] <Kabiigon> hi i am looking to make a secure file server
[06:43] <Guest33679> which do you reccomend
[06:44] <Ben64> sshfs
[06:44] <reisio> one that doesn't change its nick
[06:44] <xmetal> good grief
[06:45] <Kab> yah I dont want to users ssh access thats the problem i was thinking about something like ftp over ssl
[06:46] <Kab> i was thinking vsftpd
[06:46] <dr_willis_> why not  use ssh
[06:46] <chilli-salad> Kab, the ubuntu server manual shows how to give sftp access
[06:46] <reisio> Kab: makes no difference to end users
[06:46] <reisio> except that their transfers would be secure with ssh
[06:46] <chilli-salad> Kab, using chained accounts
[06:48] <chilli-salad> Kab, so create users, assign them a special directory, but don't have it create the usual "home" directories in it, and "chain" the accounts to that directory. They will have shell access but will not be able to get outside of the assigned directory.
[06:49] <Ben64> talking about jail?
[06:49] <chilli-salad> so they could use a program like FileZilla that use what's called sftp, which is really a shell account.
[06:50] <chilli-salad> for the end user, it will be just like using FTP.
[06:50] <chilli-salad> but it will actually be secure.
[06:50] <reisio> Ben64: not exactly, ssh has all the options you need
[06:50] <reisio> rssh could give you a head start, though
[06:51] <Kab> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[06:51] <Kab> this is the document you was talking about
[06:51] <reisio> nobody was talking about a document
[06:51] <dr_willis_> Sshfs ihandys
[06:52] <dr_willis_> Is handy
[06:52] <reisio> it's handy on Unix boxes
[06:52] <Kab> ok how do i get started with sshfs
[06:52] <chilli-salad> I said ubuntu server manual...
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> im downloading music from soundcloud with links2, any other lightweight alternatives?
[06:53] <reisio> Kab: don't bother
[06:53] <chilli-salad> Kab, see ubuntu server guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/index.html
[06:53] <reisio> lotuspsychje: wget
[06:53] <reisio> lotuspsychje: youtube-dl, maybe
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> reisio: for wget you should know the actual direct link iof the file right?
[06:54] <reisio> lotuspsychje: that makes it simpler :)
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> reisio: im more looking a browse way
[06:54] <chilli-salad> Kab, I linked to 12.04 LTS, but you can also get the ubuntu server guide for other distro versions: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[06:55] <reisio> lotuspsychje: a browse way?
[06:55] <reisio> lotuspsychje: downloadhelper might work in Firefox
[06:55] <reisio> lotuspsychje: youtube-dl is probably faster
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> reisio: like a browser yes, but soundcloud is very heavy
[06:55] <chilli-salad> and btw, I've found the server guide to be great for getting various services running. I've followed it exactly, with only one bug I've discovered so far.
[06:55] <reisio> lotuspsychje: it's less heavy if you don't open it
[06:55] <alfreddba> am using ubuntu 12.04.. i want to install ipmessenger...i tried to install but not working...so pls guide me...
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> !info ipmessenger
[06:56] <dr_willis_> exactly what is not  working
[06:57] <alfreddba> am using ubuntu 12.04.. i want to install g2ipmsg...i tried to install but not working...so pls guide me...
[06:57] <bazhang> !details | alfreddba
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> reisio: its the list with livesets that actually lag on me, so text based links2 was handy
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> reisio: to use firefox addons you need to load the list first right?
[06:58] <alfreddba> bazhang: unable to connect with local network..
[06:58] <reisio> lotuspsychje: kinda
[06:58] <jacq> HI all, I am building a new  Ubuntu Core  13.04 on an   Allwinner A20 from Olimex. Everuthing is going well except for iptables cause I am missing something in the kernel.  The message I am getting is "iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `filter': No chain/target/match by that name Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded". Where can I get the info on the necessary kernel
[06:58] <bazhang> alfreddba, where'd you install that from
[06:58] <jacq> I found some docs on the net but they are too old and not compatible with moderns kernels. (Kernel version: 3.4.43)
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info iptables
[06:59] <alfreddba> bazhang: http://deepanra.blogspot.in/2010/10/linux-ipmessenger.html
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> jacq: looks like your iptables is up to date
[07:00] <dr_willis_> alfreddba:  that post seems to be about 3 yrs old
[07:00] <bazhang> alfreddba, that link is from 3 years ago, and is a 3rd party app, why not contact the maintainer
[07:00] <niklasfi> hi, i am on a machine, where screen is not installed and i am not a super user. is there another way to detatch from commands, so that they finish, while i am logged off?
[07:00] <alfreddba> dr_willis_: pls guide valid links...
[07:01] <alfreddba> bazhang: pls guide me..
[07:01] <dr_willis_> niklasfi:  nohup and. &   perhaps
[07:01] <bazhang> alfreddba, what does it do
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> alfreddba: you looking for a net messenger for ubuntu?
[07:01] <dr_willis_> alfreddba:  find a ppa  for the app and its homepage
[07:02] <alfreddba> bazhang: i need to install..
[07:02] <waterlite> Hi
[07:02] <alfreddba> dr_willis_:  i will try n come back
[07:02] <bazhang> alfreddba, please stop repeating and answer my question: what does it do
[07:02] <niklasfi> dr_willis_: that looks goot thanks
[07:02] <dr_willis_> 8-)
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> waterlite: hi mate what can we do for you?
[07:03] <droop> hello. i cant find info on what the original permissions are for my pictures folder. What are the original permissions when i first installed ubuntu 12.04? thanks
[07:03] <trench> niklasfi: talk to your admin to install screen?
[07:03] <waterlite> What's a good irc client
[07:03] <alfreddba> bazhang: local sharing and chat..
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> waterlite: irssi, xchat
[07:03] <dr_willis_> waterlite:  weechat
[07:03] <waterlite> Hmm
[07:03] <nowayride> Droop... username:username 664 ?
[07:04] <bazhang> waterlite, thats a matter of opinion; check the software centre as there are many of them, try them and choose the best for You
[07:04] <nowayride> Er, 755
[07:04] <waterlite> K
[07:04] <waterlite> Xchat good ?
[07:04] <trench> waterlite: yes
[07:04] <nowayride> They can be whatever you want honestly, you could make em 700
[07:04] <bazhang> alfreddba, so contact the maintainer of that application and see if he/she has a more recent one
[07:04] <dr_willis_> try it and see waterlite
[07:04] <niklasfi> trench: that is what I am going to do this afternoon, but i am not in until then. also this is a very nice machine to do performance tests on. the reason I can do those is because it is not yet fully ready for performance runs. So I don't want to complain too much that it is not fully configured, afterall I wouldn't have nearly exlusive access otherwise
[07:05] <waterlite> Good
[07:05] <Hyuri> can anyone help me?
[07:05] <jacq> lotuspsychje, ubottu:  Thanks. for the info. At least now, I am sure, the problem is not with iptables but with the kernel
[07:05] <alfreddba> bazhang: ok thanks..
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> waterlite: apt-cache search chat (from terminal)
[07:05] <trench> Hyuri: ask your question and see
[07:05] <jacq> lotuspsychje, ubottu:  Thanks. for the info. At least now, I am sure, the problem is not with iptables but with the kernel
[07:05] <Hyuri> it's insane urgent
[07:05] <bazhang> Hyuri, then state it
[07:05] <droop> nowayride: thanks. i created a new user and cant open the folder using my admin user. it says i am not the owner, so i gave it 777, but i cant open the folder. now i just want to give it the original permission
[07:05] <trench> Hyuri: then why waste your time on asking to ask
[07:06] <trench> Hyuri: I'm sure someone had the problem before
[07:06] <Hyuri> i've just installed ubuntu studio, selecting "install alongside windows 7" but my pertition has gone
[07:06] <nowayride> droop NP, from my 13.04 install 755 and user:user is default
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> jacq: you might wanna re-ask once in a while in chat, or pastebin your iptables error with it
[07:06] <cc_32123> hi, does anyone know how to solve '/proc' permission 500 problem? see this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1686307.html thanks
[07:06] <Hyuri> i hope so =(
[07:06] <Hyuri> i am lost
[07:06] <Hyuri> the PC is not mine
[07:07] <chilli-salad> Kab, actually the server guide doesn't say exactly how to set up sftp for use with ssh. It shows how to do sftp using vsftp. Another way of doing it is to use ssh, with instructions here: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/
[07:07] <Hyuri> 900GB of data has gone
[07:07] <bazhang> !enter | Hyuri
[07:07] <jacq> lotuspsychje: ok thanks .
[07:07] <Hyuri> ok
[07:08] <droop> nowayride: ill give it 755. i just want the default permission back :)
[07:08] <cool_boy> hello there !
[07:08] <Aravindgeek> Hyuri : wait. Don't assume reboot to live mode test whether you lost data or not.
[07:08] <cool_boy> how can I check if a port is enabled or disabled for access in ubuntut 12.04?
[07:08] <trench> cc_32123: the answer is there plenty of times
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> cool_boy: nmap yourself
[07:09] <nowayride> cool_boy: are you wanting to know if a service is running on the port? netstat -tpan, want to know if iptables works? best bet use an outside port scan
[07:09] <cool_boy> lotuspsychje: you mean nmap <port number >
[07:09] <cool_boy> ?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> cool_boy: nmap -PN -sV your own ip
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> cool_boy: or what nowayride sugested
[07:10] <cool_boy> I started a server on a port  on remote machine but I can not access application on that port.
[07:11] <trench> Hyuri: why no backup?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> cool_boy: what app are we talking about?
[07:11] <cc_32123> @trench sorry, i can't understand that, is there any links to check?
[07:11] <officeHours> can someone explain how i can remove the  GPT with protective MBR in fdisk? I can't create a new partition
[07:11] <trench> Hyuri: cc_32123 : yes read the thread again
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> officeHours: maybe gparted or testdisk can help you
[07:12] <cool_boy> lotuspsychje: I am running openerp's server by default it runs on 8069 port that is working fine, now need to run it on different port for run multiple instances of server that is not working
[07:13] <cool_boy> I want to know if the port (2000) is enabled for access from out side or not
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !info nmap | cool_boy
[07:13] <waterlite>  /msg snimavat hi
[07:13] <waterlite> Odd
[07:13] <waterlite> Sorry client testing
[07:14] <somsip> !test | waterlite
[07:14] <bazhang> waterlite, try #test
[07:14] <trench> waterlite: or make your own channel
[07:15] <nowayride> BTW nmapping your own IP could show the wrong info
[07:15] <waterlite> Thanks
[07:15] <nowayride> Always good to nmap from outside the box
[07:16] <trench> nowayride: that depends on his provider
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> nowayride: and depends on localhost or external ip
[07:17] <Aravindgeek> Hyuri : Are you there? partedmagic may assist you in recovery.
[07:18] <nowayride> From my webserver it will find the port open in itself, and filtered outside. From my home ISP same behavior for my modem's web interface. Either case it's always a safe bet to get an outside coming in
[07:18] <cc_32123> @trench sorry, can you point it out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686307 didn't seems solved at last. I'm using a dedicate server too
[07:19] <karab44> hello
[07:19] <Hyuri> Aravindgeek: sorry, i'm here. Reading a text about TestDisk. Do you think it can help?
[07:19] <eXecutioner> what is the difference between yum and sudo apt-get install >
[07:19] <eXecutioner> ?
[07:19] <karab44> I type apt-get install and it asks me do I want to install stuff and when I choose Yes it prints changelog instead installing. What's wrong?
[07:20] <nowayride> Used in different distros and with different repos, yum is typically redhat based
[07:20] <nowayride> They work a bit differently too like apt-cache search and... I forget the yum version off hand
[07:20] <bazhang> !apt-get | karab44
[07:21] <karab44> bazhang: ty
[07:21] <bazhang> karab44, have a read of the above link
[07:21] <nowayride> ^ That.. yum works with rpm
[07:21] <karab44> I used it 5 mln times and I had no problem like that before
[07:21] <bazhang> !info yum
[07:21] <eXecutioner> thanks
[07:22] <karab44> bazhang: this manual is simple. There's nothing about changelog in there.
[07:23] <Aravindgeek> yes. It has worked for me. Go give a try.
[07:23] <bazhang> karab44, pastebin the exact command and the error
[07:23] <bazhang> !paste | karab44
[07:23] <karab44> do you understand my problem? Instead installation I have changelog printed
[07:23] <karab44> hard to do, my VM does not support pasting... :/
[07:24] <bazhang> karab44, sure it does
[07:24] <nowayride>    changelog - Download and display the changelog for the given package < Are you sure that's not what you typo'd?
[07:24] <karab44> let's say I type command apt-get install some stuff more stuff
[07:24] <dr_willis_> its connected to the internet karab44 ?
[07:24] <karab44> dr_willis_: sure it is
[07:24] <dr_willis_> command | pastebinit
[07:24] <bazhang> karab44, we need the exact commands and error output, not some simulcra
[07:24] <dr_willis_> there us go
[07:25] <karab44> ayayayay
[07:25] <dr_willis_> !pastebinit
[07:25] <karab44> nice trick
[07:25] <nowayride> I'm an idiot... I saw pastebinit and read it as paste-b-init and thought there was some hidden pastebin tool in Ubuntu
[07:25] <waterlite> Hahahhaha
[07:26] <waterlite> nowayride:
[07:26] <nowayride> That would be super nifty though
[07:26] <karab44> ok give me a second
[07:26] <nowayride> Take the output and push it with post to pastebin, grab the response uri
[07:27] <niklasfi> another question: in bash you can do a{b,c}d which extends to abd acd. Now if f="b c" is there a way to do something similar to a{${f}}d, so that {${f}} is expaned as before?
[07:27] <karab44> just don't shout at me just because I work on sudo su
[07:27] <bazhang> niklasfi, try in #bash
[07:28] <bazhang> karab44, there is no such thing unless you enabled the root; are you on ubuntu?
[07:28] <karab44> yes
[07:28] <karab44> usrv 12LTS
[07:28] <cc_32123> anyone check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686307 for me please. It's really don't have much info on this problem
[07:28] <bazhang> !version | karab44
[07:28] <dr_willis_> sudo -i         no need for  sudo su
[07:28] <nowayride> Eh? By default I can sudo su over.. I just can't su over because no password
[07:29] <dr_willis_> su to a user.. not root
[07:29] <karab44> I new it
[07:29] <bazhang> karab44, the pastebin, please
[07:29] <karab44> cmon. I can not always type sudo this sudo that
[07:29] <karab44> bazhang: Just one more second pls. I just installed pastebinit
[07:29] <bazhang> karab44, read carefully;  sudo -i for a root shell
[07:30] <Ben64> karab44: "sudo -i" is the same amount of typing as "sudo su" but actually is the correct way
[07:30] <nowayride> Wait, pastebinit actually is a command? That's handy
[07:30] <karab44> Im in a root for a while. Let's say for a particular thing
[07:30] <Ben64> nowayride: sure is
[07:31] <Ben64> theres also sprunge, which just needs curl http://sprunge.us/
[07:32] <nowayride> That's neat too
[07:32] <eXecutioner> what are environment variables used for ?
[07:33] <eXecutioner> anyone ?
[07:33] <auronandace> eXecutioner: it varies according to the environment
[07:33] <nowayride> Try echo $SHELL, they're  well, pretty self descriptive, variables used in the environment
[07:33] <eXecutioner> ok
[07:34] <karab44> I tried to pastebin and I fckup something It goes crazy
[07:34] <nowayride> Like $SHELL, $PS1, $HOSTNAME, $USER, stuff like that might give you an idea
[07:34] <nowayride> karab44: what was the command you ran? Just the apt-get line
[07:34] <auronandace> !language | karab44
[07:34] <karab44> apt-get install packages | pastebinit -b
[07:35] <karab44> auronandace: I am polite
[07:35] <bazhang> karab44, no cursing here
[07:35] <Aravindgeek> eXecutioner: It would be good if you start with www.tdlp.org tutorial
[07:35] <karab44> nobody curse
[07:35] <nowayride> The one before that that you got the changelog stuff on, search up your history
[07:35] <eXecutioner> thanks Arvind :)
[07:35] <dr_willis_> !pastebinit
[07:36] <karab44> 
[07:36] <dr_willis_> note the full syntax used.. the   b   option in optional
[07:36] <dr_willis_> is optional
[07:36] <karab44> oooooah Now it's stocked!
[07:36] <karab44> forever
[07:37] <karab44> got IOError: errno 32 broken pipe
[07:37] <nowayride> karab44: history | grep apt | grep changelog
[07:38] <nowayride> Does that come up with an apt-get changelog command?
[07:38] <karab44> yes but first at all need to rebirth my server
[07:39] <frustrated5623> Could someone please recommend a simple calendar program that doesn't completely suck (like Thunderbird+Lightning does)?
[07:40] <frustrated5623> I'm having a hard time finding a simple calendar program to use offline.
[07:40] <bazhang> frustrated5623, apt-cache search package
[07:40] <karab44> why sucks? I use it with my android and it's fine
[07:40] <frustrated5623> karab44: because it forces you to go online.
[07:40] <karab44> so use system calendar then :)
[07:40] <frustrated5623> karab44: and it also breaks with every single update.
[07:41] <karab44> nooo that's not true
[07:41] <karab44> I use it 5 years maybe and it never happened to me. Maybe I am lucky
[07:41] <frustrated5623> In my opinion, Lightning feels like an ugly tumor on top of Thunderbird. In my humble opinion. :(
[07:42] <frustrated5623> I need something like Sunbird.
[07:42] <karab44> so install sunbird. What's the matter?
[07:42] <frustrated5623> karab44: it keeps crashing.
[07:42] <frustrated5623> I'm guessing it's not compatible with the news libraries,k
[07:42] <frustrated5623> or something. I don't know.
[07:43] <karab44> so it's not sunbird but you messedup in system then
[07:43] <frustrated5623> I would use Lightning, but it's impossible to use it locally.
[07:44] <karab44> I just presed button work offline and it's done
[07:44] <karab44> what seems to be the problem?
[07:44] <frustrated5623> It doesn't let me save the settings in the .ics file.
[07:44] <frustrated5623> The calendar's properties page says Location: moz-storage-calendar://
[07:44] <frustrated5623> And I can't even change it.
[07:45] <karab44> write to them
[07:45] <karab44> ask what the heck
[07:45] <nowayride> So I'm using Xenserver as a private environment, but to use the boot args it's making me use an install repo/net boot, any ideas about having it pull install files locally instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com? I'd rather not slam the repo when I want to spin up instances
[07:45] <frustrated5623> I have no idea where "moz-storage-calendar://" is
[07:45] <yousaf> i am logged in as root
[07:45] <yousaf> how can I go to httpdocs directory?
[07:45] <kanupatar> where can I get tcpdump 3.9.8-4ubuntu2.deb ?
[07:46] <nowayride> yousaf: where do you have your httpdocs directory? That depends on your config.
[07:46] <somsip> yousaf: are you using ubuntu?
[07:46] <yousaf> yes
[07:46] <dr_willis_> !info tcpdump
[07:46] <yousaf> nowayride I don't know
[07:46] <yousaf> :/
[07:46] <HypnotiX> can i remove the case sensitive requirement from the terminal ? :D
[07:47] <dr_willis_> kanupatar:  so you need an older tcpdump?
[07:47] <somsip> yousaf: default should be /var/www then. To check do 'grep 'ServerName' /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[07:47] <reuf> i want to execute crontab every saturday at 4 am how?
[07:47] <dr_willis_> HypnotiX:  the filesystme is case senestive.. not the terminal ;)
[07:47] <somsip> *DocumentRoot not ServerName...
[07:47] <dr_willis_> !cron | reuf
[07:47] <nowayride> dr_willis_: ping -i eth0 ;)
[07:47] <karab44> guys, guys! After some crashes and fire and errors... it says that everything is already updated. Cool thing
[07:47] <StathisA> i'm going to install ubuntu on a vmware host - what is the best way to use it? vnc? vmware's console? smth else?
[07:48] <yousaf> that command didn't do anything somsip
[07:48] <dr_willis_> StathisA:  depends on what you are going to do with it
[07:48] <karab44> this is how I do it
[07:48] <kanupatar> dr_willis_: yes yes
[07:48] <StathisA> well i need it to be as close as possible as a "real" machine
[07:48] <dr_willis_> StathisA:  dont forget 'ssh'
[07:48] <somsip> yousaf: go to /var/www  - I'll check the other command
[07:49] <somsip> yousaf: grep DocumentRoot /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (assuming a normal installation)
[07:49] <dr_willis_> StathisA:  thats rather vague. ;) if you need it acting like a desktop box.. full screen the vm and sit down at it.
[07:49] <StathisA> well i kind need the web interface...i know about ssh - but i keep it for the server versions...
[07:49] <StathisA> *ui interface
[07:49] <nowayride> StathisA: need the web interface, you mean a box on the network you can use a browser or whatever? Or specifically Ubuntu programs?
[07:49] <dr_willis_> StathisA:  why are you using vmware over virtualbox?
[07:50] <yousaf>    DocumentRoot /var/www
[07:50] <karab44> ok got few more questions
[07:50] <StathisA> sorry i mispelled...didnt want to write "web interface" but UI in general
[07:50] <karab44> is reset command for cleaning terminal safe?
[07:50] <nowayride> dr_willis_: if you ask that you would hate to see my home config lol
[07:50] <StathisA> dr_willis_ i got an ESXi host standing by
[07:50] <dr_willis_> StathisA:   in most cases you may want to be using Lubuntu or xubuntu a lighter/quicker desktop also in a vm
[07:50] <yousaf> somip /httpdocs/doz <--- I need to get to that directory
[07:50] <karab44> and how to increase line buffer for terminal?
[07:51] <cc_32123> '/proc' permission is 500, only root can see all process, anyone know how to solve it? thank you
[07:51] <nowayride> karab44: yes it's just for the terminal session itself
[07:51] <goddard> can i theme the gnome terminal tabs
[07:51] <nowayride> It's like doing clear but will reset other stuff
[07:51] <karab44> yes but it sounds more scary
[07:51] <nowayride> It isn't, I have to use it when Xenconsole mangles my terminal
[07:52] <dr_willis_> karab44:  it also resets some of the 'modes' a terminal mey be in.  so its handy to rember if you ever get weird characters
[07:52] <somsip> yousaf: cd /httpdocs/doz
[07:52] <nowayride> When in doubt, man reset
[07:52] <karab44> thank you doctor
[07:52] <yousaf> -bash: cd: /httpdocs: No such file or directory
[07:52] <karab44> ok but how to increase number of buffered lines printed in terminal?
[07:52] <eXecutioner> difference between yum and apt-get
[07:52] <eXecutioner> #precise
[07:52] <nowayride> yousaf: that doesn't exist then, why are you trying to go there? Are you following a guide?
[07:52] <karab44> it remembers only one screen
[07:52] <ReggieMan> Why are there duplicate executables in jdk/bin and jdk/jre/bin? Which copies should I install?
[07:53] <yousaf> no, I can access that via ftp though
[07:53] <karab44> I want for example 2 thousand lines
[07:53] <kanupatar> dr_willis_: any clues?
[07:53] <yousaf> I have uploaded some  files there via ftp
[07:53] <yousaf> need to work with them through commandline
[07:53] <dr_willis_> kanupatar:  fo what?
[07:54] <nowayride> yousaf: so /httpdocs are on another machine? You will have to either mount it or ftp/ssh to the machine
[07:54] <yousaf> another machine?
[07:54] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  you are editing files on a remote ftp server?
[07:54] <yousaf> i am sure this is it
[07:55] <kanupatar> dr_willis_: that tcp dump version? i cannot download from launchpad
[07:56] <dr_willis_> kanupatar:  if theres an older version in the repos - you can  use the pinning feature of apt to install the older version
[07:56] <dr_willis_> !pin
[07:56] <yousaf> how can it be on another machine, I only have one dedicated server
[07:56] <kanupatar> dr_willis_: i dont have a net connection in the linux machine
[07:56] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  so where are you sitting now? at the server and a monitor connected to it?
[07:57] <kanupatar> i have to get the deb and need to install there
[07:57] <yousaf> ssh using putty
[07:57] <dr_willis_> kanupatar:  good luck then is all i can say i guess.
[07:57] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  so you are editing a file ON a remote server...
[07:57] <yousaf> I am not editing any files yet
[07:57] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  you are using putty from a windows machine.. using ssh to get to a server.
[07:57] <yousaf> but yes its a remote server
[07:57] <yousaf> yes
[07:57] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  so... use an editor and start editing? whats the core of the problem?
[07:58] <nowayride> yousaf: maybe check your user folder for it then? Is this a dedicated box/vps or a shared server?
[07:58] <Mace268> ftp root isn't machine root
[07:58] <dr_willis_> there are many text editors out that can work as ssh or ftp clients to let you edit files on the server directly (well they handle the stuff in the bckground)
[07:59] <yousaf> dr_willis, I have upload Laravel (PHP framework) to /httpdocs/doz.. i need to get to that folder through commandline so I can run the CLI
[07:59] <yousaf> at the moment I can't get to that directory for some reason
[07:59] <yousaf> nowayride its a dedicated box
[07:59] <nowayride> So I asked a bit ago, anyone know an alternative to slamming repos for an install, or locally cache it? Seems like Xenserver only wants to pass boot args to netboot
[07:59] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  your path is most likely wrong. due to you not underatanding the fundamentals of the server and system paths.
[08:00] <yousaf> in all honesty i dont know what i am doing, but if i get to that directory then i will know what to do :D
[08:00] <yousaf> root@host-78-bla-bla-51:~# ls
[08:00] <yousaf> parallels  parallels_installer
[08:00] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  the http server  has the files in one of its sub directdories most lilkely.. NOT /httpdocs/  which would be on the 'root' of the drive
[08:00] <yousaf> that is what i see now, ignore the 'bla' parts
[08:00] <Mace268> yousaf, you need to find out where your ftp server's virtual directories are located
[08:01] <nowayride> Okay so, are you using Plesk then?
[08:01] <yousaf> its installed on the server but i am not using it
[08:01] <yousaf> i just got ssh and ftp access
[08:01] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  so cd /    then look again with  'ls' to see whats there
[08:01] <somsip> yousaf: you uploaded laravel.zip?
[08:02] <yousaf> nope, not in zip format i just upload my app via ftp
[08:02] <kuhno> I got 2 eth interfaces in my machine and want to make sure the default route is always on eth0. So I set up a post-up rule deleting the default->eth1 rule. how can i make sure the default->eth0 rule has the correct gateway ip (achieved via DHCP) set? currently the gw ip is hard-coded in my /etc/networking/interfaces post-up rule...
[08:02] <yousaf> hmm
[08:02] <somsip> yousaf: slow approach if all else fails 'find / -name filenamefromapp'
[08:02] <nowayride> Panels kind of take everything over and have set paths, what's in /var/www is there vhosts?
[08:03] <yousaf> yes
[08:03] <yousaf> i can see  vhosts
[08:03] <yousaf> cgi-bin  index.html  vhosts  webalizer
[08:03] <nowayride> Check in there for the site and then for httpdocs or whatever
[08:03] <yousaf> there it is!
[08:04] <yousaf> oh man, either this is silly or i am just stupid
[08:04] <yousaf> you be the judge of that lol
[08:04] <nowayride> Also if you're not deep into Plesk you might consider cPanel if you need a panel.. Plesk tends to um, break catastrophically any chance it gets
[08:04] <somsip> yousaf: it was in /var/www where I first suggested?
[08:04] <nowayride> Nah it's just you're using a panel and it has its own organization to keep things sane between user/reseller accounts
[08:04] <yousaf> somsip yes, but then i had to go to vhosts/sitename/httpdocs/doz
[08:05] <somsip> yousaf: ah ok. Good result in the end
[08:05] <yousaf> Right, you have all been amazingly helpful so thank you
[08:05] <yousaf> :)
[08:05] <dr_willis_> yousaf:   you may wnt to look up some info on the  'locate' command  in case you loose stuff later. ;)
[08:06] <yousaf> googling that now
[08:06] <yousaf> well, part of problem is knowing what to look for in the first place :)
[08:06] <reuf> yousaf does tour wife call you yousless
[08:06] <dr_willis_> you knew the file name. ;)
[08:06] <reuf> XD - no offence
[08:06] <yousaf> I was search for "navigate directories ubuntu"
[08:07] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  err..  you dont have any underatanding of 'bash fundamentals' at all then?
[08:07] <yousaf> reuf, I have been called Useless before, yes but not by my other half :D
[08:07] <yousaf> dr_willis_ nope
[08:07] <yousaf> i am a noob
[08:07] <reuf> everyone is noob at this or that
[08:08] <nowayride> It's fine everyone starts somewhere, but learning CLI will be tremendously helpful if anything breaks
[08:08] <Mace268> updatedb then locate <filename> can come in very handy
[08:08] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  then perhaps you should have been searching for 'bash tutorials'
[08:08] <karab44> I can only scroll one screen in server terminal. How to increase number of lines?
[08:08] <dr_willis_> !bash
[08:09] <karab44> I use bash
[08:09] <yousaf> this might sound awful but I wouldn't have known what 'bash' was, for me its ubuntu
[08:09] <yousaf> so definitely have a lot to learn
[08:09] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  its not ubuntu..  the SHELL is 'bash'  normally
[08:09] <yousaf> is that similar to osx terminal?
[08:09] <dr_willis_> and bash will be the same on most every disrto. and Os out there that uses bash
[08:09] <yousaf> most commands seem to be similar
[08:09] <dr_willis_> OS-X defaults to  some other shell i belive.. but can use bash also
[08:09] <somsip> karab44: export HISTSIZE=1000
[08:09] <nowayride> karab44: what terminal are you using? That should be in the term's prefs
[08:09] <sam113101> no, I think it defaults to bash too
[08:10] <dr_willis_> yousaf:  oS-X is based on BSD ,
[08:10] <Mace268> isn't ubuntu now dash? or did I understand incorrectly?
[08:10] <somsip> karab44: in ~/.bashrc by default IIRC
[08:10] <dr_willis_> Dash is the 'search/app laiuncher ' part of unity
[08:10] <dr_willis_> tap the windows key = brings up dash
[08:10] <Marlenee]> wjat is the bash games suport from ubuntu i can downlaod
[08:10] <dr_willis_> tap the alt key = brings up the 'hud'
[08:10] <nowayride> somsip: I think he means scrollback not history
[08:10] <Mace268> Oh yeah I was talking about what sh links to
[08:10] <dr_willis_> Marlenee]:  what?
[08:10] <Dude> unique features of shell script ?
[08:11] <dr_willis_> !dash
[08:11] <dr_willis_> dash is    the 'sh' provider. :) bash  has more feaatures then sh
[08:11] <somsip> nowayride: ooops. Try to do too much at once here...
[08:11] <Marlenee]> dr_willis_ : games for bash
[08:11] <karab44> nowayride: true
[08:11] <dr_willis_> Marlenee]:  theres several in the repos.   bsd-games and nethack.. and others
[08:11] <dr_willis_> ive even seen space invaders and tetris for the console
[08:12] <Marlenee]> i know that
[08:12] <Marlenee]> what is new where can i get the list of games
[08:12] <nowayride>  /bin/sh -> dash but isn't passwd usually set for /bin/bash? I always get defaulted to it
[08:13] <fidel> Marlenee]: filter the output of apt or use some kind of software-center / synaptic or similar and search for 'games'
[08:13] <nowayride> Or is it for scripts with #!/bin/sh?
[08:13] <Mace268> What if I relinked sh to bash? Would that fix broken scripts or would that break other things?
[08:13] <DJones> !games | Marlenee] This is a fairly comprehensive (but not complete) list of games available on Ubuntu/Linux,
[08:14] <dr_willis_> nowayride:  the default shell for USERS is 'bash' the default for 'sh' is dash. which is used by system shells and a lot of scripts
[08:14] <nowayride> Marlenee]: Steam :)
[08:14] <dr_willis_> Mace268:  any scripts that break because they expect sh to point to 'bash' should be  tossed out. ;)  the writers need to  get with the times
[08:15] <sam113101> why is dash used instead of bash, for scripts
[08:15] <dr_willis_> sam113101:  its less resource intenssive
[08:15] <karab44> I changed bashrc file and restarted machine and still can scroll only few lines in my terminal
[08:15] <sam113101> they should use zsh instead
[08:15] <karab44> so it probably refers to file history... :/
[08:15] <dr_willis_> sam113101:  sh has been around for decades..
[08:15] <nowayride> karab44: it refers to history, you need to check Putty/terminal/whatever you use for scrollback
[08:15] <somsip> karab44: my bad. That was for the 'history' command. I misread your request
[08:15] <Marlenee]> i dont need graphic games i need so i can ply form ssh
[08:16] <sam113101> so what
[08:16] <karab44> somsip: no prob bro.
[08:16] <dr_willis_> Marlenee]:    apt-cache search games  console
[08:16] <karab44> somsip: just tell me how to fix that :). I use bash, in X env is simple cause I change it from preferences menu :)
[08:17] <nowayride> Marlenee]: Angband? :)
[08:17] <dr_willis_> !info rogue
[08:17] <dr_willis_> heh.
[08:17] <nowayride> karab44: scrollback, for the third time check Terminal lol
[08:18] <karab44> nowayride: sorry, I don't get what you say
[08:18] <Marlenee]> dr_willis_ : thanks
[08:18] <nowayride> Not on the server, check your terminal's preferences
[08:18] <karab44> a
[08:18] <karab44> :)
[08:19] <karab44> it's VM
[08:19] <dr_willis_> karab44:  so what terminal program are you using?
[08:19] <karab44> virtualbox
[08:19] <dr_willis_> the console ?  xterm? putty? screen?
[08:19] <karab44> ok give me a seconf
[08:19] <dr_willis_> !info fbterm
[08:19] <nowayride> Okay so you're at the console then.. alt+pgup doesn't scroll up?
[08:19] <dr_willis_> theres dozens of terminal programs  :)   you can use to have extra features
[08:19] <karab44> it scrolls for few lines only
[08:20] <saki`> is there like a ubuntu server for noobs book out there?
[08:20] <blazemore> karab44: Look in the preferences of the terminal and change the scrollback
[08:20] <dr_willis_> saki`:  i imagine there are ' linux server beginner guides'
[08:20] <nowayride> Putty might be a good idea.. but if you're getting the console itself it really should scroll more than that.
[08:20] <DJones> !manual | saki` Not specifically Ubuntu server, but this may be useful,
[08:21] <karab44> blazemore: there's no such thing bro. I use virtualbox so I am directly on the server
[08:21] <dr_willis_> karab44:  you can use putty or whatever to ssh into the server in the vm ;))
[08:21] <fidel> saki`: many tutorials etc for sure. from my point of view: best idea is to just set yourself a small goal - and do it. i.e. in a vm to have a playground.
[08:21] <cool_boy> how to open a port to access from outside?
[08:21] <dr_willis_> karab44:  and you can use screen or tmux on the console for extra features
[08:21] <dr_willis_> karab44:  or that fbterm app i just mentioned.. but tmux or screen is WORTH learning
[08:21] <blazemore> cool_boy: Not an Ubuntu problem, check the manual for your router
[08:22] <fidel> saki`: as example: goal 1: setup a small linux server in a VM. 2. setup a webserver (or even LAMP) inside that vm. ....
[08:22] <dr_willis_> cool_boy:  by default  theres no firewall rules on a ubuntu system. so theres no closed ports.. just no services listening..
[08:22] <cool_boy> blazemore: you mean that ports are disabled from router?
[08:22] <karab44> God I just want few more lines! Why it's so difficult? Why? :S
[08:23] <Marlenee]> dr_willis_ : is it poosible to play atari games on ssh server
[08:23] <karab44> another hour wasted
[08:23] <cool_boy> dr_willis_: how can I make them service listenable?
[08:23] <blazemore> cool_boy: I mean that, there are multiple devices connected to your router, and you need to set up port forwarding so your router knows which device to send traffic on that port to
[08:23] <blazemore> cool_boy: Which service? What are you actually trying to do?
[08:23] <dr_willis_> cool_boy:  you install a service.. the ports are open.
[08:24] <MidnightRider> I have a small netbook that I want to install ubuntu 12.04 on. I have no external CD devices, and no USB stick large enough. I'm wondering if I can copy the image onto an old Hard Drive and connect that via USB to the netbook to boot from? Then have it install ubuntu onto the HD that is installed within the netbook!
[08:24] <cool_boy> blazemore:  I am running a server using --xmlrpc-port=port_number
[08:24] <dr_willis_> karab44:  learn tmux.. you will never go back
[08:24] <cool_boy> but when i try to access from web client on this port, it does not work
[08:24] <dr_willis_> karab44:  i cant receall EVER using the  'history buffer' in the console..
[08:24] <karab44> You know what is the future? System that understands human. Even stupid command line. Just write command more naturally - computer increase number of scrolling lines. And it increases
[08:24] <blazemore> cool_boy: And does it work when you connect to it from within the network, or locally?
[08:24] <dr_willis_> cool_boy:  access from where> try accesing them from the server.
[08:24] <blazemore> !ot | karab44
[08:24] <karab44> blazemore: don't be such nazi
[08:25] <dr_willis_> !info fish | karab44
[08:25] <blazemore> karab44: Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you're right and everyone else is wrong
[08:25] <Tm_T> karab44: please be respectful and stick in the channel topic and
[08:25] <karab44> blazemore:  where I said that somebody is wrong?
[08:25] <Tm_T> -and
[08:25] <fidel> karab44: this is a technical support channel ;)
[08:25] <cool_boy> blazemore: I cant check if works locally or not because I am in India and server is in USA, but yes one port 8069 is working fine, they say this is the only port which is accessible via services
[08:26] <blazemore> cool_boy: server is in USA? If you scan the IP with a port-scanning tool like nmap, does the port show as open?
[08:26] <karab44> fidel: I see. So let's start again. I want more lines in my terminal. I use Bash
[08:26] <bazhang> karab44, #bash
[08:26] <cool_boy> blazemore: for that , do i need to install nmap?
[08:27] <blazemore> cool_boy: If you want to use nmap, a good start would be installing it, yes
[08:27] <karab44> blazemore: seriously? why so late
[08:27] <blazemore> karab44: late?
[08:27] <bazhang> karab44, move on
[08:28] <karab44> I wouldn't ask here if I knew theres #bash
[08:28] <blazemore> OK good, bye then :)
[08:28] <cool_boy> blazemore: this is the result of nmap port-scan
[08:28] <cool_boy> http://pastie.org/8241441
[08:28] <blazemore> cool_boy: ....
[08:29] <blazemore> cool_boy: YOu have to give it the IP address of the server, it isn't magic
[08:29] <blazemore> cool_boy: and you need to run it from YOUR machine, not the server
[08:29] <cool_boy> blazemore: sorry and thank you :)
[08:29] <dr_willis_> karab44:  bash is th edefault shell.. you most likely allready are using bash
[08:29] <nowayride> cool_boy: nmap ip.ad.dr.ess -p 2089 # or whatever port you're scanning
[08:30] <dr_willis_> karab44:  if you really want to use the shell to its full potential use  'tmux'  or byobu, or screen, to have extra features
[08:30] <dr_willis_> !info tmux | karab44
[08:30] <dr_willis_> karab44:  you an do all sorts of fancy things with tmux  and byobu is a more user friendly tweaked tmux.
[08:31] <karab44> blazemore: on #bash they said I have to ask here again :D
[08:31] <blazemore> karab44: I'm not sure what your problem is other than you "want more lines" in bash
[08:31] <cool_boy> getting this Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
[08:32] <blazemore> cool_boy: try nmap -PN instead of just nmap
[08:32] <raven_> xubuntu 13.04 on asus eeepc 1005ha: no power management any more, function keys not working, no known packages for these functions any more - any ideas?
[08:32] <cool_boy> how can I UP port?
[08:32] <kostas> can anyone help with something? I just installed 12.04 into a laptop and I cannot boot into the system. I just get a black screen with a cursor. I looked around and there seems to be a conflict with the graphics card but I can't seem to get past the black screen
[08:32] <blazemore> !xubuntu-channels | raven_
[08:32] <dr_willis_> !nomodeset | kostas
[08:32] <nowayride> cool_boy: is the program actually running? On the server: netstat -tapn | grep ':2089', is the firewall blocking it? iptables -L
[08:32] <blazemore> cool_boy: You're 100% sure that the server program is actually working on the server?
[08:33] <nowayride> 8069 not 2089
[08:33] <raven_> blazemore, is no xubuntu specific topic
[08:33] <Ubuntivity> Hello, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4, and I want to connect its external microSD in USB Mass Storage (UMS) mode, how will I have to mount it?
[08:33] <karab44> blazemore: It is simple. I want to scroll more lines in my terminal when I Shift + PGUP. I use bash and virtualbox. What is unclear?
[08:33] <blazemore> karab44: What's virtualbox got to do with anything?
[08:33] <blazemore> karab44: What terminal emulator are you using?
[08:34] <nowayride> blazemore: he's at the console
[08:34] <kostas> ubottu: I looked into that. The problem is that I cannot get into nomodeset, it does not enter automatically, nor by holding the shift key after the bios screen
[08:34] <blazemore> oh
[08:34] <blazemore> nowayride: Why didn't he say so?
[08:34] <cool_boy> dr_willis_, blazemore : here is result
[08:34] <cool_boy> it says 9000 id down
[08:34] <nowayride> blazemore: he did
[08:34] <dr_willis_> Ubuntivity:  best advice i have for transfering stuff to/from a android phone is to use  airdroid (on android) or some other network service as if it was a pc.   if you MUST use a usb cable. then you need to look into the guides out on accessing a 'mtp' filesystem on android.
[08:34] <blazemore> oh my mistake
[08:34] <karab44> wow so cool  it's clear :)
[08:34] <karab44> blazemore: no prob bro
[08:35] <dr_willis_> karab44:  and how many lines does it scroll now? i cant recall ever using  the scrollbuffer on the console.
[08:36] <blazemore> karab44: If you want more lines in the scrollbuffer without recompiling the kernel(!) you should install screen (sudo apt-get install screen)
[08:36] <nowayride> karab44: it's possible nobody knows, since it's not something that I imagine pops up often. Usually the scrollback at the console is at least a few pages and most of the time people don't really use the console unless networking is busted, you could try connecting to it with putty(Windows) or just terminal (OSX/Linux)
[08:36] <cool_boy> blazemore: why I need to use -PN with nmap?
[08:36] <dr_willis_> first google hit for 'console scrollback buffer'    http://linuxgazette.net/143/anonymous.html
[08:37] <blazemore> cool_boy: It's the network config of your hosting provider, they're blocking IMCP reqiests
[08:37] <blazemore> cool_boy: Or possibly the firewall on your server
[08:37] <karab44> dr_willis_:  about 1000 or less
[08:37] <Mace268> karab44, all I found on the subject is a kernel edit and recompile or use the fbcon device, but that info was from 2007 xD
[08:37] <blazemore> cool_boy: Can you run the command nowayride asked you to, and post the actual full output on a pastebin?
[08:38] <dr_willis_> karab44:   its a limit of the console.  the 'answer' is use a program like tmux, or screen, or fbterm,  it seems.. as was said earlier..    32k buffer is the  default
[08:38] <karab44> nowayride: I use ubuntu server so... I use terminal hello :)
[08:39] <nowayride> karab44: I don't mean in virtualbox I mean on your desktop/laptop/workstation/whatever your keyboard is physically hooked up to
[08:39] <karab44> dr_willis_:  I need to use bash instead of others. Ispconfig requires default bash
[08:39] <cool_boy> blazemore: that i should run on server's terminal?
[08:40] <blazemore> karab44: That's a good point - you might be better off connecting via ssh rather than typing into the console directly through virtualbox
[08:40] <nowayride> cool_boy: on the server try: netstat -tapn
[08:40] <cool_boy> are you talking about this commad ? netstat -tapn | grep ':2089'
[08:40] <nowayride> Yes
[08:40] <blazemore> cool_boy: but change 2089 to whatever port your program is supposed to listen on
[08:40] <dr_willis_> karab44:  you dont understand.. you run TMUX... it THEN RUNS BASH..
[08:40] <nowayride> That will tell you if a process is listening on the port.. but grep 2089 is whatever port it is
[08:40] <dr_willis_> karab44:  you ARE using BASH when you use tmux
[08:41] <dr_willis_> karab44:  if you use putty to ssh in.. it (guess what..) running/using BASH as your shell
[08:41] <nowayride> You will get output like (in this case for port 80) tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[08:42] <karab44> wait a second guys I am on ssh now. Will let you know
[08:42] <dr_willis_> and you can aparently increase the default buffer by using the 'fbcon' framebuffer console.. but ive no idea how well that works in  virtualbox.. its the default on a normal ubuntu install to use the framebuffer console
[08:42] <blazemore> karab44: What program are you using to ssh in? PuTTY?
[08:42] <karab44> blazemore: mingw probably msys
[08:42] <dr_willis_> i dont see much reason to  use the console on cirtualbox if you can just use putty or whatever to ssh to the vm.
[08:43] <nowayride> karab44: You'll be better off SSHing into it, you can set a much larger scrollback and copy/paste is worlds easier, plus the resolution isn't mangled
[08:43] <kostas> Cn anyone help with a problem? I cannot get into nomodeset, it does not enter automatically, nor by holding the shift key after the bios screen
[08:43] <blazemore> kostas: Do you mean you can't get to the GRUB menu?
[08:44] <Ben64> kostas: you have to mash the left shift key like crazy
[08:44] <kostas> blazemore: that is correct, I was talking about grub
[08:44] <cool_boy> blazemore, nowayride
[08:44] <kostas> Ben64: I tried that with the shift key, didn't work
[08:44] <dr_willis_> you just press and HOLD the shift key as far as  i know
[08:44] <blazemore> kostas: Turn your computer off. Hold shift. Turn it on. Don't let go of shift until you see the grub menu
[08:44] <cool_boy> http://pastie.org/8241472
[08:44] <Ben64> kostas: it does work, you have to mash it
[08:44] <kostas> blazemore: tried that a few times, didn't work unfortunately
[08:44] <karab44> guys
[08:45] <Ben64> kostas: you have to go for the world record in shifts per minute
[08:45] <kostas> Ben64: holding it down doesn't count?
[08:45] <karab44> you're absolutely right! O windows terminal trough ssh it scrolls infinite
[08:45] <blazemore> cool_boy: Right, so your program isn't actually listening on any port. There's your problem. There's not a problem with networking, your program isn't working
[08:45] <dr_willis_> i have seen some weird pcs where the usb keyboard did not work to get to grub (or in grub at all) had to  enable the legacy usb option in the bios. or use a PS2 keyboard
[08:45] <nowayride> cool_boy: the warnings are nothing it just means you'd need to sudo them, but it's not necessary. The program doesn't seem to be running on 8069
[08:46] <dr_willis_> karab44:  because the terminal app is handling the buffer.  which is not the 'console' now
[08:46] <kostas> dr_willis_: the machine is a VAIOS laptop, any ideas?
[08:46] <nowayride> Ugh why is it so hard to get Ubuntu to do an unattended install from iso :\
[08:47] <karab44> so as far I understand the problem lays in VBOX buffer ?
[08:47] <blazemore> nowayride: Isn't that what the OEM disk is for?
[08:47] <nowayride> OEM disk?
[08:47] <dr_willis_> kostas:  means nothing to me.
[08:47] <Mace268> karab44, it's in the linux kernel
[08:47] <blazemore> nowayride: Sorry, I am mistaken
[08:47] <dr_willis_> karab44:  the CONSOLE has a 32K limit to the buffer.
[08:48] <kostas> still can't figure out why I can't get to grub
[08:48] <dr_willis_> karab44:  using the framebuffer console lets you increase the buffer..
[08:48] <karab44> dr_willis_: ok but where to change it?
[08:48] <blazemore> kostas: Can you boot into Ubuntu OK?
[08:48] <dr_willis_> karab44:  screen, tmux, byobu, or fbterm would also let you have a virtually unlimited buffer
[08:48] <kostas> blazemore: I can't boot into ubuntu at all
[08:49] <dr_willis_> karab44:  i posted several urls that had  how to get a bigger buffer.. the answer was to use one of those apps.
[08:49] <blazemore> kostas: What happens when you try?
[08:49] <karab44> dr_willis_: ok I'll doublecheck that
[08:49] <frustrated5623> Can I use Mozilla Sunbird on Mint 15? It keeps crashing and I have no idea why it does that.
[08:49] <kostas> bazemore: I power the laptop, get the bios screen and then a black screen with a cursor
[08:49] <blazemore> !mint | frustrated5623
[08:49] <dr_willis_> karab44:  seriously man.. go lern to use tmux, or byobu
[08:49] <kostas> blazemore: I power the laptop, get the bios screen and then a black screen with a cursor
[08:50] <blazemore> kostas: Sounds like it's booting (almost) just fine! Can you boot to that point and then hit ctrl+alt+f3?
[08:50] <dr_willis_> karab44:  you can even use them while you are ssh'd in via putty
[08:50] <blazemore> kostas: Wait, cursor as in mouse cursor?
[08:50] <frustrated5623> But it is based on Ubuntu...
[08:50] <dr_willis_> putty -> ssh ->  tmux -> bash
[08:50] <karab44> dr_willis_: I wish to but not now. Just some tools dependency
[08:50] <blazemore> frustrated5623: It's not open to negotiation
[08:50] <dr_willis_> karab44:  ive not seen you really give a good reason why you are neeind to do this
[08:50] <kostas> blazemore: sorry my mistake, cursor as in the blinking pixel in the terminal
[08:50] <blazemore> kostas: Is this a fresh install?
[08:51] <frustrated5623> blazemore: Well, does it work on Ubuntu 13.04, then?
[08:51] <kostas> blazemore: as fresh as it gets
[08:51] <blazemore> frustrated5623: I don't know
[08:51] <dr_willis_> karab44:  type 'tmux' and poof you got a bash shell with a huge scrollback buffer.. done.
[08:51] <blazemore> kostas: Did you check the installation medium for errors before installing?
[08:52] <frustrated5623> Does Ubuntu 13.04 have a functional calendar program?
[08:52] <Antar> Hi everybody
[08:52] <blazemore> frustrated5623: It comes with Evolution which has a calendar. Others are available in the repositories
[08:52] <Antar> i am using ubuntu 12.04 and installed LXDE i want to  install google chrome
[08:53] <Antar> can anyone help me
[08:53] <blazemore> Antar: What have you tried?
[08:53] <cool_boy> nowayride, blazemore : http://pastie.org/8241513
[08:53] <MrEmerald> Anyone around?
[08:53] <blazemore> !anyone | MrEmerald
[08:53] <Antar> blazemore mean ?
[08:53] <MrEmerald> lol
[08:53] <cool_boy> before application was not running, i closed it
[08:53] <dr_willis_> Antar:  so install it> :)  it should work fine.. but chromium browser is in the dfault repos.
[08:53] <kostas> blazemore: not sure, in the beginning I could not get the flash drive to install ubuntu, and had to remake the usb stick bootable using the terminal
[08:53] <MrEmerald> So I had 12.04 installed on my windows 7 computer
[08:53] <blazemore> !details | what error do you get when you try to install it?
[08:53] <dr_willis_> !chrome
[08:54] <Antar> no i mean google chrome
[08:54] <blazemore> Antar: http://chrome.google.com
[08:54] <Antar> .deb file
[08:54] <blazemore> Antar: or apt://chromium-browser
[08:54] <dr_willis_> Antar:   and the problem is what exactly?
[08:54] <Antar> what is the diffrent chromium and chrome
[08:54] <blazemore> Antar: The thing is, I don't really understand what your question/problem is
[08:55] <blazemore> Antar: Chromium is a non-branded version of Chrome built from the open-cource codebase
[08:55] <dr_willis_> honestly i cant really recall noticeing any differance at ALL btween the 2 Antar  - i go thtem both installed
[08:55] <dr_willis_> the icons are differnt ;)
[08:55] <Antar> heh
[08:55] <Antar> whene i open the .deb file
[08:55] <blazemore> cool_boy: Looks like something is listening on port 9000 there
[08:56] <Antar> it told me that thereis no package called file
[08:56] <blazemore> Antar: Did you double-click it? Did it open in software centre?
[08:56] <MrEmerald> I recently bought a new one, and tried to factory reset my windows 7 so I could sell it, but the grub is still installed on the mbr. Now I don't have a repair disk, and I can't download one, is there a way I can fix this? on startup now, it gives me error: no such partition grub rescue>
[08:56] <Antar> Yeah
[08:57] <cool_boy> blazemore: that is my application but is not accessible from browser
[08:57] <blazemore> MrEmerald: If you want to remove Grub you have to install the Windows bootloader over the top of it, which you can do by using the Repair option from a Windows 7 installation DVD. This isn't something that's supported in this channel, but it's easy to do
[08:57] <cool_boy> seems is block for being access
[08:57] <cool_boy> seems is block for being accessed
[08:57] <blazemore> cool_boy: Is your hosting provider blocking the port?
[08:57] <MrEmerald> blazemore: I have no installation dvd, never came with the computer, nor can I get one :/
[08:57] <Antar> blazemore
[08:58] <blazemore> MrEmerald: You do need to get one
[08:58] <dr_willis_> Antar:  exactly what did you do with the .deb file ?
[08:58] <Antar> double click
[08:58] <blazemore> Antar: What exact error do you get, can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <Antar> i will paste
[08:58] <MrEmerald> blazemore: I was coming here to see if there was ANY other way... ?
[08:58] <dr_willis_> Antar:  or you can use ''sudo gdebi whateverthedebiscalled.deb' and try to install it that way
[08:59] <blazemore> MrEmerald: It's not really an ubuntu support topic... try asking some Windows support channel
[08:59] <kostas> blazemore: I just used the same iso file and usb stick to install 12.04 in another machine. It worked fine, so unlikely to be an issue of the installation medium
[08:59] <nowayride> Okay weird.. my Ubuntu VM randomly decided to pick up a DHCP address and it was static up until now
[08:59] <MrEmerald> blazemore: Ok thanks :)
[08:59] <Antar> there isnt a software package called filein your current software center
[08:59] <dr_willis_> MrEmerald:  there used to be legally/free download of the windows restore disks..  #windows sholuld know where. i  saw them on  the lifehacker blog site once ages ago
[09:00] <dr_willis_> Antar:  what?
[09:00] <dr_willis_> Antar:   you downloaded what .deb exactly?  whats its full name.
[09:00] <MrEmerald> dr_willis_: Thanks :)
[09:00] <nowayride> Um... and syslog is slammed with request to eth0 from dhclient
[09:00] <Antar> google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[09:00] <dr_willis_> Antar:  and you are using a 32bit ubuntu and not the 64bit?
[09:01] <Antar> Exactly
[09:01] <karab44> putty seems to face my requirements... Anyway thanky you genlemen for your great contribution.
[09:01] <dr_willis_> Antar:  the command 'sudo dpkg -i /the/path/to/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb'   should install it
[09:03] <Antar> dr_willis sudo dpkg -i /the/path/to/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[09:03] <dr_willis_> Antar:  you do realize that was an example path?
[09:03] <Antar> dr_willis Errors were encountered while processing:  google-chrome-stable
[09:03] <dr_willis_> so you did use the proper path?
[09:03] <blazemore> Antar: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:03] <Antar> Yeah
[09:03] <Antar> i ve did
[09:04] <nowayride> So um, why is dhcp slamming my Ubuntu VM's dhclient?
[09:04] <dr_willis_> Antar:  or install gdebi and do  'sudo gdebi  /the/path/google-yadda-yadda.deb'
[09:04] <nowayride> It's static, using an IP set for static assignment
[09:04] <Skizu> Hey, I've just enabled modrwrite via ap2en or w/e not working, I think I need to set AllowOverride to All
[09:04] <Skizu> Where do I do that
[09:04] <Antar> blazemore then
[09:05] <gbence> Skizu: .htaccess? vhost?
[09:05] <Antar> dr_willis
[09:06] <somsip> Skizu: I thought we did this already...
[09:06] <dr_willis_> Antar:  hmmm?
[09:06] <blazemore> Antar: sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome*deb
[09:06] <Antar> ok but it is on /tmp
[09:07] <Skizu> somsip: Doing it 1 more time to see how far I get :P
[09:07] <Skizu> somsip: I got everything but can't remember how to do this fully
[09:07] <somsip> Skizu: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/14/%23ubuntu.txt
[09:07] <Antar> blazemore the same Errors were encountered while processing:  google-chrome-stable
[09:08] <somsip> Skizu: 09:52
[09:08] <dr_willis_> Antar:  pastebin the errors.
[09:08] <blazemore> Antar: Can you please post the *full* error message (ALL output) onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <Skizu> somsip: Thanks
[09:08] <dr_willis_> Antar:  and you may want to try it with gdebi instead of 'dpkg -i''
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Antar: tried:  sudo apt-get -f install     now?
[09:09] <Antar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992070/
[09:09] <blazemore> Antar: sudo apt-get -f install will fix
[09:09] <xmetal> wonder if they run a package manager (synaptic, if there are (not related to chrome) broken packages
[09:09] <xmetal> hmm
[09:09] <Antar> dr_willis gdebi syntax
[09:10] <xmetal> like chrome will not install until those packages are fixed or something
[09:10] <xmetal> <~~ guessing
[09:10] <blazemore> xmetal: You're right, and sudo apt-get -f install will fix it
[09:10] <dr_willis_> Antar:  or you can use ''sudo gdebi whateverthedebiscalled.deb' and try to install it that way
[09:11] <bekks> gksudo, not sudo.
[09:11] <dr_willis_> gdebi does not need gksudo. ;)
[09:11] <dr_willis_> its a cli app
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> could just add the PPA manually then apt-get as usual :)
[09:12] <bekks> I thought it had a tiny little gui :)
[09:12] <Antar> gdebi not installed
[09:12] <dr_willis_> bekks:  thatd gdebi-gtk
[09:12] <bekks> dr_willis_: AH, thank you :)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Antar: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:12] <dr_willis_> so...   install it?
[09:12] <Antar> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[09:13] <dr_willis_> !11.10
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Antar: not supported anymore
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Antar: Oneiric is EOL
[09:13] <dr_willis_> 'its dead jim!'
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: 'but he doesn't know it'
[09:13] <dr_willis_> 'you can not change the laws of physics!'
[09:14] <xmetal> adam savage "i reject your reality and subsitute my own"
[09:14] <Antar> so it is not supported
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Antar: yes the release died a while back
[09:14] <dr_willis_> time to upgrade..
[09:14] <xmetal> lol i am so tired i cant even remember what the question was
[09:15] <Antar> so i have 12.10 iso
[09:15] <dr_willis_> xmetal:  'the myth of  tech support at 4 am!'
[09:15] <Antar> can i upgrade using the iso file
[09:15] <dr_willis_> Antar:  you upgrade from lts to lts. releases.. OR from each non-lts to the next in line...
[09:15] <xmetal> there is tech support at 4 am ... just dont get angry if its not "good tech support" :P
[09:15] <xmetal> techs need sleep to ya know
[09:15] <dr_willis_> for 11.10 -> 12.04  then -> 12.10.. then  on up
[09:16] <Antar> ok
[09:16] <dr_willis_> i would think a clean install would be faster
[09:16] <dr_willis_> and 13.04 is out now also. ;P
[09:16] <Antar> i have 12.04 iso
[09:16] <dr_willis_> so i dont see why you would use 12.10
[09:16] <xmetal> going from 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 seems strange
[09:16] <xmetal> i'd just clean install the latest
[09:16] <dr_willis_> if you mount the 12.04 iso  it may ask to upgrade
[09:16] <dr_willis_> but clean install would be best..
[09:16] <Antar> can i upgrade from iso file
[09:17] <xmetal> if its only one "version" .. than an upgrade would be ok
[09:17] <dr_willis_> if you mount the 12.04 iso  it may ask to upgrade
[09:17] <Antar> mm ok
[09:17] <dr_willis_> i forget then that feature got enabled in ubuntu ;)
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> I'd go for the LTS (12.04) it is supported long after even 13.10 is EOL
[09:18] <Antar> what about 12.04.2
[09:18] <gbence> Antar: it rox
[09:19] <[[thufir]]> I can't get any sensors detected.  does my hardware somehow not have a cputemp thermostat?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Antar: same, i just has newer updates to reduce package updates on clean installs
[09:19] <Antar> rox :) ?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Antar: its a file manager (and other things) :)
[09:19] <Antar> ok ok
[09:19] <z820> exit
[09:20] <Antar> mount cmd ?
[09:20] <hansp> root@Techno: # cp /media/hansp/Iomega_HDD /www/private/  /var/www/ - Why will this not work? :S
[09:21] <blazemore> hansp: Because cp only takes two arguments and you gave it three
[09:21] <Antar> how can i mount it
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> hansp: what is Iomega_HDD?
[09:22] <hansp> ActionParsnip,  my external HDD
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> hansp: so it's a folder?
[09:22] <hansp> yes
[09:23] <dr_willis_> cp /path/to/foo  /path/to/bar
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> then you will want:  cp -r /media/hansp/Iomega_HDD/* /var/www
[09:23] <RobCWDud1ey> cp -r /path/to/src /path/to/dest
[09:24] <mariachi> I just installed ubuntu 13.04 and then steam and its suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper slow... it's using 104% of my cpu (AMD X3). I cant even click anything inside steam. Both Noveau and prop Nvidia drivers have been tried. Anyone experiened this? google search wasnt very helpful. Everyhting else is normal
[09:24] <hansp> This worked, thanks !
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display; sudo dmidecode -t 1    what is output?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: use a pastebin to hold the output
[09:25] <frustrated5623> Does anyone know how to disable this annoying window in Thunderbird? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-16_12_17_24-E7oZdlqI.png
[09:25] <frustrated5623> It keeps popping up every single time I start it.
[09:25] <blazemore> frustrated5623: Click "I think I'll configure my account later"
[09:25] <blazemore> frustrated5623: Nice theme btw... ;)
[09:25] <hansp> But now another problem appeared. When i try to open my new folder in /var/www/ i get "This location could not be displayed. Permissions blabla" But im logged in as root in terminal.. :S
[09:26] <frustrated5623> blazemore: I did that, but it doesn't help. :(
[09:26] <blazemore> hansp: It says "blabla" ?
[09:26] <sid418> i recently got bluetooth chip and works fine for xp , but how can i setup in ubuntu 12.10
[09:26] <blazemore> !bluetooth | sid418
[09:26] <blazemore> hansp: What is the exact error, and what exactly do you do to produce it?
[09:26] <dr_willis_> hansp:  just beause its your system.. dosent mean your user has full rigths to access everything.
[09:27] <hansp> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of. I Get this when i try to open a folder that Root is owning
[09:27] <dr_willis_> hansp:  its not owned by your user.
[09:27] <mariachi> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.com/xwAGkj6K     and     http://pastebin.com/sJE8A4LE
[09:28] <sid418> ubottu: link provided by u cannot conntains setup in ubuntu  12.10
[09:28] <blazemore> sid418: The instructions are still relevant
[09:29] <sid418> which one i follow either 10 or 11
[09:29] <blazemore> The latest.
[09:29] <denkerbror> Hello running ubuntu 14.4 on my laptop and I have problems with the touchpad. When I use the touchpad and clicks the courser just randomly fly over thr screen
[09:29] <denkerbror> anyone know how to fix?=
[09:29] <denkerbror> 12.4*
[09:30] <blazemore> denkerbror: Does the system have a make and model?
[09:30] <DJones> denkerbror: There is no Ubuntu 14.4
[09:30] <denkerbror> yea, I know 12.4*
[09:31] <denkerbror> HP probook 4320S modell
[09:31] <Ben64> denkerbror: its 12.04, the next LTS is 14.04
[09:31] <denkerbror> yea, I know, jsut read
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: how did you install the driver?
[09:33] <mariachi> ActionParsnip, I downloaded a deb from nvidia's launchpad
[09:33] <mariachi> (I'm new to ubuntu... I guess that was the wrong way to do it?)
[09:34] <Ben64> mariachi: yeah usually. ubuntu comes with nvidia drivers, it should have asked you if you wanted to activate them
[09:34] <mariachi> right... it didnt :S
[09:34] <Ben64> in which case you could install nvidia-current and the kernel headers and it should have worked
[09:35] <mariachi> ok I'll try uninstalling this and installing nvidia current
[09:35] <Ben64> you have to undo whatever you added
[09:36] <dr_willis_> nvidia has a launchpad?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis_: maybe he means this? https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
[09:40] <dr_willis_> well time for me to blastoff   ;P
[09:41] <dr_willis_> thunderbirds are go... bye all bbl.
[09:42] <sky_> Does anyone have any idea how to get java to work in Chromium 28.0
[09:42] <blazemore> sky_: Is there an entry for java in Chrome's about:plugins page?
[09:42] <blazemore> sky_: And do you have Java installed? What Ubuntu version?
[09:44] <sky_> I have java 1.8 installed. And in the chrome://plugins  Java 11.0.2 is enabled.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher2: all you needed to do was use the additional drivers app, or run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:45] <blazemore> sky_:  sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin; cd /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> sky_: have you  tried the Webupd8 java ppa?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> sky_: gives you oracle java super easy
[09:51] <sky_> I have installed the Webupd8 ppa  java 1.8  and it works great with firefox and google chrome.  I'm trying to run Kies Air with my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and the Chromium browser (which is the the one I prefer) keeps having java problems
[09:53] <xybre> How do I do a substring/fuzzy match of installed packages?
[09:53] <[[thufir]]> How can I get the cpu temp sensor working?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> xybre: dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'}       will show installed packages... is that what you mean?
[09:53] <xybre> something like `apt-cache search --installed blah` would give me "libblah-1.0.1"
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> xybre: you can then grep the text
[09:55] <xybre> Yeah I just thought that seemed really inefficient, so I wondered if there was a better way.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> xybre: apt-cache policy packagename
[09:58] <xybre> ActionParsnip: Hmm, interesting. Doesn't do substring matching though.
[09:58] <MuhQ> Hi guys, i got following cups error message: "[Job 98] Unable to convert file 0 to printable format!". Have anyone a suggestions what to do? :)
[09:59] <denkerbror> crap, what do I do if my thoucpad driver from hp is for 32 bit system and I am running 64 bit?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> MuhQ: what are you printing from?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: the default driver should work
[09:59] <MuhQ> XML Data from a HP-UX server via lpd to cups
[10:03] <ryan0123> everytime I boot my laptop, I receive an internal error(s), why is this happening?, Is it because ubuntu 13.04 is still new and has loads o bugs or what?, Can someone please help!
[10:04] <denkerbror> right now my coruser just randomly jumps ovet the screens when pressing
[10:04] <bekks> ryan0123: Click on details, and tell us :)
[10:04] <root__> 112
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: have you tested your RAM?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: is it a clean install of Raring?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: is the OS fully up to date?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:08] <ryan0123> can you speak simplier terms, i don't understand this ubuntu jagon sorry!
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: did you have Ubuntu 12.10 before then upgrade to 13.04
[10:08] <blazemore> ryan0123: Which part of that was unclear?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> ryan0123: can you explain what your error says exactly?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: or did you install 13.04 from CD
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: its not jargon at all
[10:09] <ryan0123> I install ubuntu 13.04 from usb
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: have you tried the Unity2D session which is selected from the login screen
[10:11] <msq> hello
[10:12] <msq> ..
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> msq: hi
[10:12] <kdu92> clear
[10:15] <ryan0123> Everytime I start my laptop and login, I get an error saying, "Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error". When I click "show details", please take a look: http://s23.postimg.org/j3d8siswb/Screenshot_from_2013_08_16_11_11_16.png
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: send the detail and keep the OS up to date
[10:16] <denkerbror> the coursor just randomly flys over the screen when pressing left button
[10:16] <blazemore> denkerbror: That sounds like a problem with the actual trackpad
[10:17] <denkerbror> working great in windows
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: are thereany bugs reported?
[10:17] <denkerbror> for my laptop in linux?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: windows is a completely different OS with diffrent support
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: yes
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: does the system have a make and model?
[10:17] <denkerbror> hp probook 4320s
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_ProBook_4320s#Clikpad_.28touchpad.29
[10:20] <denkerbror> okey will read that
[10:20] <[[thufir]]> how do you know whether the cpu thermometer is working?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/
[10:21] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: Does the temperature it reports look about right?
[10:24] <denkerbror> a lot of work to get a touchpad working
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: poor support by the hardware manufacturer.
[10:25] <b0x> my touchpad works awesome
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: never had an issue, all works out of the box
[10:25] <denkerbror> fml
[10:25] <b0x> i'd like an easy toggle to disable it though
[10:25] <b0x> when using external mice
[10:25] <erchache2000> alternatives to gkrellm? i dont like conky...
[10:25] <denkerbror> they have drivers for the touchpad but only for 32-bit
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: the driver is in the default OS. It just needs better settings than the defaults
[10:27] <denkerbror> well I guess it's unusable than, just have to live with it
[10:27] <denkerbror> sucks for me
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> erchache2000: there's indicator-multiload for unity
[10:28] <Danny> hi all
[10:28] <Danny> i have a [problem
[10:28] <Danny> im runing linux mint 15 no sound
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Danny
[10:28] <Danny> i pulg in head fones work not in bulit auido
[10:28] <Danny> yes mint
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> Danny: only ubuntu support here mate
[10:28] <Danny> linux mint 15
[10:29] <frustrated5623> Why such hostility against Mint? :(
[10:29] <Danny> i like mint
[10:29] <frustrated5623> +1
[10:29] <Danny> sound max auido
[10:29] <Danny> how do i get in bulit sound working
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> frustrated5623: they have seperate support channels, nothing to do with hostility
[10:29] <DJones> frustrated5623: Its not hostility, its just that its not a supported version of Ubuntu
[10:30] <OerHeks> Danny mint has its own issues, join the mint channel
[10:30] <Danny> some one helping me
[10:30] <frustrated5623> lotuspsychje, DJones, ok, I understand. :)
[10:30] <denkerbror> ye, problem is that the buttons works as moving the curosor
[10:31] <icreator> I try to install  ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso - bur on boot from USB see: "unknown keyword in config file"
[10:32] <erchache2000> lotuspsychje, im using gnome3
[10:33] <blazemore> icreator: Did you check the integrity of the liveUSB from the first boot menu?
[10:35] <erchache2000> i discover gnome shell extensions web XD
[10:35] <icreator> liveUSB?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> icreator: can you explain how you put the ubuntu iso on the usb stick?
[10:37] <icreator> blazemore - i use  Startup Disk Creator
[10:38] <icreator> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> icreator  and where did you get the iso?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> icreator: did you wipe the data on the stick?
[10:40] <icreator> here- http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> danielbw: Mint is not supported ni ANY of the Ubuntu support chanels. Its community is entirely separate to Ubuntus
[10:40] <shakyj> Hey, I'm installing xubuntu on my 3,2 mac book air. It works fine till I try get Nouveau working I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir3-2/Raring#Install_NVIDIA_drivers but still getting hit by the black screen
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> danielbw: tab fail
[10:40] <icreator> I unbount USB stick and then start Disk Creator
[10:41] <k1l> ActionParsnip: he is already gone.
[10:41] <shakyj> I get hit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-310/+bug/1159269
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> icreator: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141311/unknown-keyword-in-configuration-file-boot-error-when-booting-off-a-live-usb
[10:42] <[[thufir]]> blazemore: there's no temperature  sensor, apparently.  not detected by "sensors"
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> k1l: yeah saw :(
[10:43] <[[thufir]]> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue is Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l      so that's my version.  but how do I know whether there's an actual cpu thermometer?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> shakyj: tried   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:43] <shakyj> ActionParsnip, yeah, generated my xorg, still get the black screen on boot
[10:43] <icreator> lotuspsychje tankx
[10:44] <[[thufir]]> no cputemp sensor?  why not?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/   Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[10:44] <Kaloz> Hi. Where could I find the exact kernel version+config files for the installer cd?
[10:45] <Kaloz> I'm trying to bisect what causes the 2013 macbook airs going foobar after the installed kernel (as they boot up with the one the installer is using)
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  mount a live cd or usb, so you can browse the iso
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: are there any bugs reported?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis_> or boot the live cd and see  what kernel its using
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: could try Saucy in liveCD, see if the newer kernel helps
[10:46] <Kaloz> MonkeyDust: tried that, but they seem to be the same, hence the question
[10:46] <Kaloz> newer kernels are actually worse
[10:46] <Kaloz> the raring release iso boots (has some issues, but those should be fixed upstream)
[10:47] <Kaloz> the installed kernel only boots with nosmp
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: why buy mac hardware then use anything but MacOS?
[10:47] <Kaloz> newer kernels only boot with nosmp nolapic acpi=off, but that shuts down the notebook in a few mins
[10:47] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: haswell
[10:47] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: and pcie ssd ;)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: pcie ssd isnt unique
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: acer aspire s7 uses haswell, so again. Not unique
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: as well as others
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: you pay your mac tax for an OS which is customtweaked to run as well as possible on the hardware
[10:49] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: not here, and not in the timeframe I had to get one ;)
[10:50] <rjknight1> Hello, may I ask how to use macmatch on iptables? http://www.firerack.com/devel/iptables_macmatch
[10:50] <rjknight1> and any examples.
[10:50] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: and anyways, it's my time I'm spending on it to get it working for others as well.. I just need info to where to look for a start
[10:51] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: it has to be a mainline issue, given 3.11-rc5 is broken, too
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  are you testing the new 3.10 kernel?
[10:54] <[[thufir]]> ActionParsnip: no bugs that I know of.  you mean in bugzilla for cputemp?
[10:55] <Kaloz> MonkeyDust: even 3.11-rc5 has mostly the same issues
[10:57] <rjknight1> Hello, may I ask how to use macmatch on iptables? http://www.firerack.com/devel/iptables_macmatch and any examples?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> rjknight1: never used it before, what are you trying to achieve exactly?
[10:59] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: ip mac match filtering on iptables
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !security | rjknight1 maybe something usefull here
[11:00] <neetz> I have dual OS ,  one is win7 and the other is ubuntu 12.10 , i suppose i have nvidea graphic card problem in ubuntu , i am not able to boot also in nomodeset mode
[11:00] <neetz> please haelp
[11:00] <neetz> help*
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  tip: any thing beyond what's in the repos, is not supported here
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> anything*
[11:00] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: I already did a macfiltering on iptables but i want it with ip add in it..
[11:00] <neetz> anyone who cna help me ?
[11:01] <neetz> I have dual OS ,  one is win7 and the other is ubuntu 12.10 , i suppose i have nvidea graphic card problem in ubuntu , i am not able to boot also in nomodeset
[11:01] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: anyway, thanks .
[11:02] <DJones> neetz: No need to repeat so quickly, just be patient, if you don't get a reply in about 10 minutes, then it would be worth repeating the question
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> rjknight1: that app is in dev folder on the site, did you download that?
[11:02] <Kaloz> MonkeyDust: the one the installer uses should be in the repo as well as the one the installed system uses. one works, the other doesn't. upstream is broken, too - that simple
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  should be, but isnt - that simple
[11:03] <hudini> hello guys
[11:03] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: not yet... I don't know how but I will know it by then.
[11:03] <neetz> Djones : can u provide me the solution
[11:04] <DJones> neetz: Sorry, no, I've not used nvidia for quite a while
[11:05] <neetz> Djones , I dont want any graphic card for my ubuntu , just want to work on ubuntu .. dont need any graphic card for ubuntu , is there any other way so that i can sucessfully boot
[11:06] <DJones> neetz: Sorry, no, I've not used nvidia for quite a while
[11:06] <DJones> neetz: Just be patient and ask the channel
[11:06] <neetz> ok , do you know any other chanels of ubuntu on free node
[11:07] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  what is your exact video card?
[11:07] <neetz> Nvidiea Geforce Gt 525M
[11:07] <neetz> @dr_wills
[11:07] <Dr_Willis_> no need to use the @ symbol on irc
[11:08] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  so your system does exactly what now when you try to boot it?
[11:09] <neetz> I get a purple screen followed by a black screen , i tried with no modeset but same result
[11:09] <Dr_Willis_> so have you  yet installed the nvidia drivers?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> neetz: did you update-grub after nomodeset?
[11:09] <neetz> how do I ? if it doesnt boot
[11:09] <OerHeks> neetz, that GT525 is Optimus? ( dual gpu )
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> you ARE booting.. its just not loading the X drivers correctrly/video drivers
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> !text
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> boot into text mode. install the nvidia-current package, is what i would do.    IS this one of those dual gpu systems?
[11:10] <neetz> I dont know is optimus
[11:11] <neetz> what is optimus*
[11:11] <Dr_Willis_> the dual gpu chipset solution thats common in many laptops
[11:11] <neetz> and yeah for that I need to connect it to internert , but i have a dongle
[11:11] <neetz> lets assume that i have that , then
[11:11] <Dr_Willis_> I have several usb wifi dongles.. that work out of the box ;)
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> if you got optimus then you have a lot of extra work to do  - OR you mighjt be able to disable one of your video cards in the bios settings
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> I dont use optimus. dont have any laptops withit. so no experience with it
[11:12] <neetz> :P but how can you connect it to internet through terminal ? is it possible
[11:12] <neetz> how
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> IF you can get to text mode and have network working, You might be able to install the nvidia-current package and it may work
[11:12] <OerHeks> maybe this mage for 12.04lts also works for your situation >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132112/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-gt525m-driver-on-ubuntu12-04
[11:12] <OerHeks> c/mage/page
[11:13] <Dr_Willis_> theres cli tools to  enable the wifi networking.  or run a cable to the router for a few min.
[11:14] <neetz> if i boot with a livcd , I get a black terminal , saying ubuntu
[11:14] <neetz> ubuntu@ubuntu
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|neetz,
[11:14] <neetz> what do i do next
[11:14] <cfhowlett> neetz, read the message above
[11:14] <neetz> ok
[11:15] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, neetz tried that, you missed it because you came in later
[11:15] <Dr_Willis_> those Dual GPU optmis stuff can really goof with things. Id look up your exact make/model  pc on the forums and askubuntu.com and see if it does in fact have Optimus
[11:15] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, d'oh!
[11:15] <cfhowlett> neetz, sorry.  I only just came and didn't know you already saw that
[11:15] <OerHeks> gforce 525, surely it is optimus
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> you need to verify one way or the other that you Have  Optimius or not.
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> double check the bios and perhaps it may have a option to disable the nvidia or intel card also.
[11:17] <y4h0> hey
[11:17] <neetz> I want to boot into a proper gui , so that i can use my dongle and install the drivers
[11:17] <neetz> but i cant even boot from livecd
[11:19] <neetz> @dr_wills , there ?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis_> You did try the nomodeset option at the live cd? how did you install if the live cd is not booting?
[11:20] <neetz> @dr_wills , I am using ubuntu since 1 year , but neva had problem like this , idk what happened suddenly
[11:20] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  stick to the facts about the current system
[11:21] <Dr_Willis_> are you saying that Ubuntu USED to work on this machine? or not?
[11:21] <neetz> yes
[11:21] <Dr_Willis_> so what release DID work?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis_> and when did it stop working
[11:21] <neetz> 12.10
[11:21] <neetz> until 5 days
[11:21] <neetz> back
[11:22] <cfhowlett> neetz, try booting an earlier kernel
[11:22] <Dr_Willis_> and what did you do right befor it stopped working?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> ?
[11:22] <Guest9219> hi how do i enable compiz's rain effect at startup?
[11:22] <neetz> @cfholett  tried that also , still not booting
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm | Guest9219
[11:23] <neetz> probably , my win7 must have had a virus i guess
[11:23] <neetz> which damaged the nvidea or the kernel
[11:23] <cfhowlett> neetz, wait, is this a wubi install?
[11:23] <neetz> wubi ? I am sorry , I am a newbie to ubuntu ,
[11:24] <cfhowlett> neetz, windows installation of ubuntu also known as wubi.  How did you install ubuntu?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> neetz  ubuntu has nothing to do with windows, unless you used wubi to install ubuntu inside windows
[11:25] <neetz> I created a seoerate parition for ubuntu and installed
[11:25] <neetz> not on vmvare or virtual box
[11:26] <Guest9219> MonkeyDust, i have ccsm installed but i've to enable the rain effect manually, i want it starts with the system's startup
[11:26] <neetz> @dr_wills , do you have a solution ?
[11:26] <OerHeks> Guest9219, compiz rain effects on startup/before login?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest9219  better ask in #compiz, then
[11:27] <OerHeks> Guest9219, not possible, AFAIK
[11:27] <neetz> @cfhowlett ?
[11:27] <Guest9219> MonkeyDust, ppl in #compiz r sleeping
[11:27] <Guest9219> thx
[11:28] <cfhowlett> neetz, so you have a normal dual boot.  I guess windows still runs OK then?
[11:28] <neetz> yea that brings me here :)
[11:28] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  so 12.10 worked.. but now the 12.10 live cd does not work?
[11:29] <neetz> @dr_wills yea because of the nvdia thing i guess
[11:30] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  but the 12.10 live cd was working when you installed earlier? did you change video cards or somthing?
[11:31] <neetz> no no , no hardware changes , it was working fine
[11:31] <Dr_Willis_> so lets recap.. you used a 12.10 live cd.. it installed  you ran it for a while.. system suddently acts up.. and now the same 12.10 live cd. No longer works either?
[11:32] <neetz> it was not a cd , it was a usb .. u call it  livecd  only , yea doesnt work now
[11:36] <neetz> ?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis_> well personally, id find/make a 13.04 live usb/cd and see if that works. if so. backup imporntant stuff, then do a clean install of 13.04
[11:36] <Guest9219> when i disable unity or without rain effect enabled, my window's shadow looks ugly [there is nobdy in #compiz]
[11:38] <Dr_Willis_> tweak the windows shadows settings/plugin or disable it perhaps?
[11:38] <neetz> @dr_wills , whats the pint ? does 13.04 support nvidiea graphics inbuit
[11:38] <Dr_Willis_> a lot of the old compiz plugins/eyecandy are slowly becomming obsolete and getting phased out
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  no need to use @ and the nvidia drivers are aviable for all the releases.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_> 13.04 works fine with my 3 nvidia systems
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_> but most of my cards are older nvidia cards
[11:39] <neetz> it was working on mine too before
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  so that points to either a kernel/driver issue.. but you said old kernel did not work.. You also said the SAME usb worked once.. but not any more.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_> that almost points to a hardware faliure.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_> but its not conclusive
[11:40] <foo357_> Hello, I've setup 'unattended upgrades' and I've also set it to reboot if required. However no reboots are performed.
[11:40] <neetz> do you mean Nvidea has failed ?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis_> only reboots would be for kernel upgrades foo357_ , and the unattended upgrades may not be upgradeing those bcause the kernels can be 'held' untill you do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:41] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  its possible. Or your usb-flash is just goofy and not booting properly since its no longer working. and you said it used to work, and theres been no other hardware changes
[11:42] <neetz> can i disable my nvidea in bios ?
[11:42] <itDany83> salve
[11:42] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  no idea.. can you?
[11:42] <neetz> i have not tried
[11:42] <foo357_> Dr_Willis_: well the config file for unattended upgrades says "reboot if /var/run/reboot-required is found", the file exists and I would think that apt doesn't do a very complicated evaluation
[11:42] <itDany83> questo è il canale di ubuntu giusto
[11:42] <DJones> !it | itDany83
[11:43] <itDany83> Thanks
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_> foo357_:  a normal apt-get update, often does not update the kernels.  since they can break things.    that  is about the only time i can think of that a reboot would be required
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_> foo357_:  askubuntu.com may have a more definitive answer however.
[11:44] <neetz> can you tell em your email id , i will contact you for any ubuntu help
[11:45] <miya2> hi
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> hello
[11:46] <neetz> @dr wills , can you provide me your email , sorry for using @ again
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  no i will not.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> thats the point of this channel
[11:46] <simplex> hi, i've a problem booting ubuntu studio with lilo. what should i put on the config to get it work?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  and if you use the TAB key it can auto complete the nicks
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> !tab
[11:47] <miya2> what's the command for quitting a channel?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  why would you want to use lilo?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> miya2  /part
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> miya2:  /part
[11:47] <miya2> thank ya
[11:47] <neetz> ok Dr_Willis_  THANKS
[11:48] <simplex> Dr_Willis_: because i've it installed and i don't want to change a bootloader because of ubuntu
[11:48] <neetz> Thanks Dr_Willis_
[11:48] <simplex> i just want to know if there's something particular that i need to put in the conf
[11:48] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  how long have you been using lilo? grub2  and grub has been the default for years..
[11:49] <simplex> i use lilo from ages, i just installed ubuntu today
[11:49] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  you may wnt to check at askubuntu.com its literlly been years+ (5+?) since ive had to touch lilo
[11:49] <Dr_Willis_> if you installed ubuntu, then why do you want to keep using lilo?  unless theres some Old system on that box.
[11:50] <simplex> i like the lilo slackware logo :)
[11:50] <Dr_Willis_> grub2 has more themeing features then lilo ever did.
[11:50] <Dr_Willis_> but it may not be enabled in the grub2 by default.
[11:51] <Guest9219> hi where do i upload the screenshot  ?
[11:51] <karab44> guys where can I reach help regarding to mailman?
[11:51] <karab44> just don't say that on postoffice
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !paste|Guest9219,
[11:51] <karab44> !mailman
[11:51] <Dr_Willis_> !info mailman
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Guest9219  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[11:52] <Dr_Willis_> it might have a homepage.. (for mailman) ive never heard of it befor
[11:52] <karab44> he knows nothin
[11:52] <simplex> Dr_Willis_: so, is here no way to make ubuntu boot with lilo?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  no idea. I cant think of any reason to use lilo these days
[11:53] <simplex> k
[11:53] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  i imagine its possible.. if you could read and understand the grub.cfg and convert it back to lilo syntax/options
[11:53] <Dr_Willis_> i dont see much to gain from the effort however.
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> simplex  any specific reason why you want to use lilo?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis_> askubuntu.com might have some clues on doing it.. or they may just laugh at you
[11:54] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[11:54] <simplex> eheh
[11:55] <Dr_Willis_> at least you are not trying to use syslinux..
[11:56] <Dr_Willis_> actually syslinux may be easier.
[11:56] <Guest9219> without unity or rain effect  ,my desktop looks like this http://imagebin.org/267797 , how do i get a nice looks without unity enabled??
[11:57] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest9219  try a different theme
[11:57] <Guest9219> MonkeyDust, it works the same on other themes, it works fine with unity or rain effect enabled.
[11:58] <yassine_> test
[11:58] <hudini> Dr_Willis how would i install privoxy or proxychains on ubuntu ,i installed tor ,and now i am trying to SSH over tor proxy
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: In a terminal (You can run one with CTRL+ALT+T), what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:58] <Dr_Willis_> hudini:  theres some 'setting up tor' wiki pages/guides. I dont use tor. I find most people use tor for the wrong reasons.
[11:59] <Dr_Willis_> brb. gotta get some drivers going.
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> Dr_Willis_: for very wrong reasons. Its funny what people think tor is
[11:59] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: if you install gnome-panel and log in to that session, you can disable the Unity plugin in Compiz and use it as the WM
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: is that what you desire?
[12:01] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, i want to have a nice shadow effect without those (rain effect or unity)enabled.
[12:02] <hudini> Dr_Willis wrong people get what they deserve , i am trying to learn security and penetration testing
[12:02] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, i've the same issue on both ubuntu and gnome fall back session.
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/how-to-get-bigger-compiz-shadows-under-app-windows
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37654/how-can-i-remove-window-shadows-in-unity/37668#37668
[12:04] <OerHeks> rain plugin, wobbly windows, not really an important feature
[12:04] <hudini> Dr_Willis i installed tor and proxychains ,so you have no idea how i could configure privoxy or proxychains so that  i can  SSH over Tor proxy
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> i disabled all desktop effects
[12:06] <ActionPa1snip> i use openbox
[12:08] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, i don't want to increase the shadow radius, the problem is i have to toggle rain effects to get the best looks, without rain effect my desktop looks like this http://imagebin.org/267797
[12:09] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip,  i'm sorry if my question is a bit confusing
[12:09] <owusu> yeah
[12:10] <owusu> #ping
[12:17] <blz> Hello, how would I block incoming on 206.111.0.0/16 with iptables?
[12:25] <rypervenche> blz: Something like "iptables -I INPUT -s 206.111.0.0/16 -j DENY"
[12:26] <blz> rypervenche, does this seem ok?  iptables -I FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 206.111.0.0/16 -j REJECT
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> Guest64600: could ask in #compiz  I dont use it. I think its a joke
[12:32] <blodiak> hi !!! am looking for backtrack or kali chanel please
[12:32] <blz> blodiak, it's not backtrack/kali per se, but you could try #netsec
[12:33] <blz> blodiak, erm... not netsec...
[12:33] <k1l> !backtrack | blodiak
[12:33] <k1l> blodiak: next time you can use alis to search for specific channels
[12:33] <blz> lol nvm, what k1l  suggested ^^
[12:34] <blodiak> ok thanks
[12:34] <kuhno>  I got 2 eth interfaces in my machine and want to make sure the default route is always on eth0. So I set up a post-up rule deleting the default->eth1 rule. how can i make sure the default->eth0 rule has the correct gateway ip (achieved via DHCP) set? currently the gw ip is hard-coded in my /etc/networking/interfaces post-up rule...
[12:35] <ahhughes> is there a way to configure the menu bar of windows so they appear in the window, and not on the top of the desktop? Its very annoying
[12:36] <blodiak> how to fix if the live cd (kde) cant see my network interface???need help
[12:38] <blodiak> how to fix if the live cd (kde) cant see my network interface???need help
[12:39] <setsuna__> I have two machines 192.168.10.10 and 192.168.10.12 . The machine 192.168.10.12 is the vpn server. i have a route on the 192.168.10.10 "route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 192.168.10.12" which allows my servers which are on 10.0.0.0/8 to talk to 192.168.10.10.
[12:39] <Wiky> 123
[12:39] <ActionPa1snip> ahhughes: you mean, remove the global manu and have the menus for apps in their respective windows
[12:40] <setsuna__> i was earlier on 10.04 and after upgrading to 12.04 after one or two hours one of the client server is not able to access 192.168.10.10
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> blodiak: what network controller chip are you using?
[12:40] <ahhughes> yes, except I used the wrong terminology :)
[12:40] <setsuna__> and after a network restart everything works fine
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> ahhughes: well, you now know the correct one and can use it to find guides
[12:43] <ahhughes> thanks ActionPa1snip
[12:43] <ahhughes> reboot time
[12:43] <karab44> where is bash history for root user?
[12:43] <karab44> ok got it
[12:43] <karab44> :*
[12:43] <blodiak> ActionPa1snip: how I can see that please???
[12:44] <blodiak> and sorry for my bad English am just learning
[12:46] <sillyme> whats command to check my kernel version
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> sillyme  uname -r
[12:46] <sillyme> ty
[12:47] <blag> ditor
[12:47] <blag> sorry wrong channel
[12:47] <setsuna__> I have two machines 192.168.10.10 and 192.168.10.12 . The machine 192.168.10.12 is the vpn server. i have a route on 192.168.10.10 "route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 192.168.10.12" which allows my servers which are on 10.0.0.0/8 to talk to 192.168.10.10. i was earlier on 10.04 and faced no issues but after upgrading to 12.04 after one or two hours one or two of the servers are not able to access 192.168.10.10 but after a network restart everything works fine 
[12:47] <setsuna__> another hour and again one or two random servers are not able to ping. thank you and sorry for the repost.
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> setsuna__  there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:50] <foo357_> hmm, how do I mark the end of an email when using 'mail' from terminal? Is it Ctrl-D to mark end of message?
[12:50] <setsuna__> Thanks MonkeyDust will try there.
[12:50] <SwedeMike> foo357_: use "."
[12:50] <foo357_> SwedeMike: I tried that first
[12:50] <SwedeMike> foo357_: works for me here.
[12:55] <blodiak> Atheros AR8151 Ethernet Controller
[12:58] <Marissa> daftykins: you asked me to keep you informed about the memory problem I had on my VPS
[12:59] <Marissa> i mailed the VPS company, they reinstalled everything and manually installed the LAMP-server so that mysql and php work
[12:59] <Marissa> I still have trouble with apt-get because of too little memory, but it disappears when I stop apache
[12:59] <Marissa> so for now I just stop apache and restart it after installing something
[13:00] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:00] <blazemore> hi ShapeShifter499
[13:00] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know how I can configure ubuntu to run my system fans at max all the time?
[13:00] <blazemore> Does your system have a make and model, ShapeShifter499 ?
[13:00] <Marissa> must be summer :)
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> Acer Aspire 7540
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> running Ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[13:01] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: Take a look here http://askubuntu.com/posts/46135/
[13:01] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: If those instructions don't work, let me know. Also let me know any error
[13:01] <Enissay> Hi, I'm trying to download a file using "wget https://orchard.codeplex.com/downloads/get/705173" but it's getting me the html page instead !! Any idea how to fix this please ?
[13:02] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, I'm getting "page not found"
[13:02] <blazemore> Enissay: wget "http://download-codeplex.sec.s-msft.com/Download/Release?ProjectName=orchard&DownloadId=705173&FileTime=130186485193930000&Build=20708"
[13:02] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: First answer here, sorry : http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[13:02] <OerHeks> blodiak, the ATH 8151 driver is not in the kernel, see this post to make it work > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677122&page=4&p=11586563#post11586563
[13:05] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, I just came across that thread via google, no that does not work for me
[13:05] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: Do you get an error at any of the stages?
[13:05] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[13:06] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: run "sudo sensors-detect" and follow the instructions.
[13:06] <ShapeShifter499> I have
[13:06] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: Did you allow it to load modules at the end?
[13:06] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, yes
[13:06] <Enissay> blazemore, OMG, what an awefull link xD ... how did you get it ? I'm using this in a loop script so It is not the same all the time xD
[13:06] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, No modules to load, skipping modules configuration.
[13:07] <rebarbror> I dont understand, my bootable usb stick works perfect with my laptop but when I use it on my pc it just hangs and after a while random texts start popping up
[13:07] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: First answer here, uses i8kutils http://askubuntu.com/questions/281478/fan-speed-in-ubuntu-pwmconfig-no-pwm-capable-sensor-modules-installed
[13:07] <blazemore> rebarbror: Does your computer boot from other USB sticks OK?
[13:08] <Enissay> blazemore, or never mind, I see now how xD
[13:08] <Enissay> blazemore, Thanks mate <3
[13:08] <rebarbror> I have only tried one, but it worked perfect with my laptop.
[13:08] <rebarbror> tried diffrent usb slots but no diffrence
[13:09] <sillyme> is there a way to see what kernel headers i have installed ?
[13:09] <blazemore> rebarbror: Sure your PC's BIOS is set to boot from USB?
[13:09] <blazemore> sillyme: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[13:09] <rebarbror> yeah ofc, it hangs when the windows come ups with welcome to linux
[13:09] <rebarbror> window*
[13:09] <sillyme> ty
[13:10] <blazemore> "welcome to linux" ?
[13:10] <blazemore> Where does it say that?
[13:10] <rebarbror> welocome*
[13:10] <blazemore> Are you sure you've downloaded Ubuntu?
[13:10] <rebarbror> sorry I wrote wrong
[13:10] <rebarbror> only says welcome
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> sounds liek XP
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> rebarbror  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[13:10] <xyz123> [Partitioning] just confirming: which partition does the base system reside in? How much space does it need
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:10] <cfhowlett> sounds like wubi
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: the base install will be in /  and will need to be about 8Gb to be comfortable
[13:11] <rebarbror> ubuntu is not installed, I am trying to install it
[13:11] <blazemore> xyz123: I recommend 8GiB to not run into problems
[13:11] <Skizu> Hey I'm using putty to connect to my server, is there a way I can download stuff from the server to the pc i'm using putty on?
[13:11] <blazemore> Skizu: Use FileZilla
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: then 1.1xRAM for swap (assuming more than 2Gb RAM) and the rest for /home
[13:11] <Skizu> blazemore: What's FileZilla?
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: sftp client for windows
[13:11] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: i have created a 50GB / primary partition but keeps failing
[13:11] <blazemore> Skizu: It's a file transfer client
[13:12] <rebarbror> will try to install from cd
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: you can have / for all folders, not a problem
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> rebarbror  ubuntu has no "welcome to linux"... is that a cd that was delivered with a magazine or so?
[13:12] <rebarbror> it's just says welcome
[13:12] <rebarbror> ---
[13:12] <Skizu> blazemore: I've winSCP for that, was wondering if I could do something in ssh so I could make a bash file to do the action
[13:12] <blazemore> Skizu: WinSCp will work fine too
[13:12] <rebarbror> and it's the img file from thier website
[13:12] <rebarbror> 12.4lts
[13:12] <blazemore> from whose? Ubuntu doesn't provide an img file
[13:12] <rebarbror> 12.04*
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: sure, you can run:  ssh user@server "grep paul /etc/passwd"
[13:12] <rebarbror> iso file
[13:13] <cfhowlett> rebarbror, ? what site did you get it from?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: it will run the command on the server and give you back your prompt
[13:13] <Skizu> ActionPa1snip: What'd that do
[13:13] <rebarbror> ubuntu.com
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: finds the name paul in /etc/passwd
[13:13] <lenzeor> Hey guys! I just installed linux on an old laptop and the graphics chip seems to be faulty. How can I make my system use fallback graphics only (from a root shell)?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: saves having to connect, run it, then disconnect
[13:13] <blazemore> rebarbror: Do you get a menu with options like "Install" and "Try Ubuntu Before Installing" etc?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> lenzeor: add the boot option: nomodeset
[13:13] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: I'm trying to partition manually .... wanted to have seperate partitions for certain things... probably is when i do guided entire partition it works fine.... as soon as i partition manually giving / 50 GB alone it fails to setup base system
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: great if you have multiple PCs
[13:14] <lenzeor> ActionPalsnip, how do I do that?
[13:14] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: can't figure out why it would keep failing
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:14] <Skizu> ActionPa1snip: how do I download to my local like that?
[13:14] <kjlikj> Hello
[13:14] <blazemore> Hello kjlikj
[13:14] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, greetings
[13:14] <rebarbror> that's where it hangs, it just shows welcome in the window the rest in just a white square
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: you can use scp (or winscp in Windows)
[13:14] <kjlikj> Web fonts is not exists one my browser ?
[13:14] <blazemore> rebarbror: Are you able to take a picture...?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> rebarbror, ok.  hey did you md5sum check the iso?
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:15] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: kind of a silly question why do i need to md5sum the iso?
[13:15] <Skizu> ActionPa1snip: So there isn't a way I can use putty to put stuff on my pc?
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: so you know that it is complete and consistant
[13:15] <blazemore> Skizu: Putty isn't a file transfer client, so no
[13:15] <lenzeor> ActionPalsnip, apparently I gotta do that from the installer?
[13:15] <kjlikj> 11.10
[13:15] <rebarbror> I just used a program called rufus to make my usb stick bootable
[13:15] <blazemore> 11.10 isn't supported any more, kjlikj
[13:15] <Skizu> blazemore: Ok thanks =]
[13:16] <rebarbror> yeah sure, I can take a picture
[13:16] <kjlikj> heh
[13:16] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: the cd installs if i partition using guided.... wouldn't that be enough to confirm that it is complete?
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: putty isnt for file copying, you can connect to the same service on the same server using filezilla and manouvre files
[13:16] <blazemore> rebarbror: Wait
[13:16] <cfhowlett> rebarbror, which doesn't answer the question.  did you md5sum check?
[13:16] <blazemore> rebarbror: Firstly, check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: no as files used to install the OS may be damaged
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|rebarbror,
[13:16] <kjlikj> i am talking about the fonts not about my ubuntu version
[13:16] <blazemore> !eol | kjlikj
[13:16] <kjlikj> the is not a scientific talk
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, doesn't seem to be doing anything
[13:16] <rebarbror> how do I cheack the md5 sums?
[13:17] <blazemore> kjlikj: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. Support for Ubuntu 11.10 has ended
[13:17] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, 11.10 dead and no longer supported.
[13:17] <blazemore> rebarbror: Did you read the "how to md5sum" link?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|rebarbror,
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: the release is not supported by the community in any way, id doesnt matter what the issue is, you are using a dead release
[13:17] <rebarbror> thx
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  first get a supported release, then ask again
[13:17] <kjlikj> ok what are the support versions here
[13:17] <blazemore> kjlikj: 12.04 and 13.04
[13:17] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, suggest you update to at least 12.04
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  type /topic to find out
[13:17] <kjlikj> from12.04 to 13.4 ?
[13:18] <blazemore> kjlikj: Yes, it says in the /topic
[13:18] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, choose one. 12.04 is long term support.  13.04 is not.
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: yes, 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 are supporte
[13:18] <kjlikj> 13.04 is not out yet ?
[13:18] <blazemore> kjlikj: They're named by date - 13.04 was released in April 2013
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  it is, 13.10 will be the next (2013, 10th month)
[13:19] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: it was released in 20(13) in the (4)th month, April. What do you reckon?
[13:19] <kjlikj> mm great
[13:19] <kjlikj> ididnt know that before
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  that's called "learning"
[13:20] <kjlikj> so 13.04 is working
[13:20] <kjlikj> Yeah exactly
[13:20] <blazemore> kjlikj: Yes, and you might actually find your problem disappears when you install it anyway :)
[13:20] <kjlikj> and how to get learning :)
[13:21] <kjlikj> i am downloading the updates
[13:22] <kjlikj> how to know all that about ubuntu and linux
[13:22] <kjlikj> it is really great work
[13:22] <blazemore> kjlikj: Use it
[13:22] <blazemore> kjlikj: If you use it, you won't get *worse* at it
[13:22] <kjlikj> just ?
[13:22] <blazemore> kjlikj: Yes. When something doesn't work, don't give up and just use WIndows for it. Force yourself to learn how to fix it, and why it wasn't working in the first place
[13:22] <kjlikj> so i should stay 24 hours with Ubuntu
[13:23] <blazemore> kjlikj: Or get a job as a Linux sysadmin, and you'll have to learn pretty quickly :L
[13:23] <kjlikj> how?
[13:23] <kjlikj> sysadmin
[13:23] <mead0w> I'm new to linux as well kjlikj
[13:24] <kjlikj> Great
[13:24] <blazemore> I was joking actually, I think you need to *already* know quite a lot about Linux before you can do it professionally...
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !lamp|kjlikj,
[13:24] <blazemore> cfhowlett: ...?
[13:24] <kjlikj> Lamp
[13:24] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, installing lamp is a great place to learn some linux
[13:24] <kjlikj> i have been using Wamp
[13:24] <blazemore> Well you're already familiar with the "amp" part
[13:25] <kjlikj> Yeah
[13:25] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:25] <kjlikj> i am a web developer
[13:25] <rebarbror> th md5 values are correct
[13:25] <mead0w> I really want to learn about PHP and hopefully create small web projects
[13:25] <kjlikj> i am designe the wordpress themes
[13:26] <blazemore> rebarbror: I've never heard of the tool you used to create the bootable USB - could you try using unetbootin, which is well-regarded in this channel, and generally
[13:26] <kjlikj> blazemore
[13:26] <kjlikj> i think that lamp is just for web devs
[13:26] <blazemore> erm... web devs just do the dev
[13:27] <blazemore> I would assume they don't concern themselves with systems-y stuff, at least our web devs don't
[13:27] <rebarbror> okay, will try the program you mentiones
[13:27] <kjlikj> ok
[13:28] <kjlikj> i know about the simple commands
[13:28] <kjlikj> like
[13:28] <kjlikj> ls
[13:28] <kjlikj> pwd
[13:28] <kjlikj> cd
[13:28] <kjlikj> mkdir
[13:28] <FloodBot1> kjlikj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <rpage> help all when is the ubuntu phone being releases
[13:29] <auronandace> !touch | rpage
[13:29] <rpage> hello all, when is the ubuntu phone is releasing
[13:29] <kjlikj> sorry
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  don't hit enter too often
[13:29] <kjlikj> it is better then using guis
[13:30] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:30] <kjlikj> ok
[13:31] <kjlikj> sysadmin is Cert ?
[13:31] <rpage> what hardware will the phone be shipped on
[13:31] <rpage> when is the release date
[13:31] <blazemore> rpage: Did you read the page you were linked?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !phone | rpage
[13:32] <blazemore> kjlikj: Sysadmin is a job title, short for "system administrator"
[13:32] <rpage> Touch Developer Preview
[13:32] <rpage> yes
[13:32] <kjlikj> mm
[13:32] <kjlikj> great
[13:32] <kjlikj> what about LHCE
[13:32] <auronandace> rpage: seriously, read what the bot says: go to #ubuntu-touch
[13:32] <kjlikj> orry
[13:32] <kjlikj> sorry
[13:32] <kjlikj> RHCE
[13:33] <blazemore> kjlikj: RHCE is RedHat Certified Engineer, which is a well-respected industry certification for Linux Systems Administrators, and is offtopic in this channel
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  your questions are not for this channel
[13:35] <moz_> Hi, I have ubuntu 12 on a lenovo b560 laptop. Bluetooth doesn't work. Any hint?
[13:37] <blazemore> !bluetooth | moz_
[13:37] <blazemore> Have you read these, moz_ ?
[13:37] <moz_> blazemore, not jet
[13:39] <moz_> blazemore, why doesn't bluetooth work automatically?
[13:40] <blazemore> moz_: Possibly because your bluetooth module's manufacturer doesn't make drivers for Linux
[13:40] <blazemore> moz_: Mostly, bluetooth does work automatically
[13:40] <moz_> blazemore, I see
[13:40] <Guest24745> Hello everyone how's it going? I have Ubuntu 13.04 64bit and am having a little issue. I have a Dell N4010 and my keyboard has Fkeys that control screen brightness. When I try to use them the brightness Icon and bar show up on the top right of the screen but the brightness don't change. Instead the icon just flickers. I booted back into Windows and it works just fine so I know it's not the computer, anyone have a suggestion?
[13:41] <blazemore> Guest24745: Before I even start to answer, I'd like to thank you for phrasing your question perfectly
[13:41] <blazemore> Guest24745: You are a beacon of hope for this channel
[13:41] <ana_> holaholahplahpola
[13:41] <blazemore> see usually we just get that ^
[13:42] <blazemore> Guest24745: What is the output of running the command    cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[13:42] <ana_> hello
[13:42] <blazemore> hello ana_
[13:43] <ana_> i am spanish x)
[13:43] <blazemore> !es | ana_
[13:43] <ana_> how are you?
[13:43] <ana_> xd
[13:44] <Guest24745> Blazemore no such file or directory
[13:44] <Guest24745> I have to restart brb
[13:44] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: the checksum was good
[13:44] <xyz123> ;/
[13:44] <ana_> byebye see you soon
[13:46] <moz_> blazemore, I'm following the instruction at the page you gave me. As I tip: hcitool dev, I receive a void answer
[13:46] <moz_> blazemore, It seems my laptop has no bluetooth
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> moz_  do you have a bluetooth adapter?
[13:47] <blazemore> moz_: After installing the packages, reboot
[13:47] <hansp> I installed Lamp, and ive added my webprojectfolder into the /var/www/ but when i try to open the /var/www/project/ its unreadable. Its owned by the root. How do I change that in safe way?
[13:47] <moz_> MonkeyDust, well no, I thought that bluetooth was built inside of the laptop.
[13:48] <moz_> blazemore, I realized that those packages were already installed
[13:48] <tahitibob> yes
[13:49] <moz_> blazemore, MonkeyDust: start: Job is already running: bluetooth
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> moz_  the job, but without hardwaren then
[13:54] <anton02> hi, how do you apt-get a whole system?
[13:55] <Okitain> anton02: what do you want to do?
[13:55] <blazemore> anton02: Could you be more specific?
[13:55] <anton02> i want to emerge world but on debian
[13:55] <moz_> MonkeyDust, blazemore: how can I prove whether I do have a bluetooth hardare?
[13:56] <moz_> hardware
[13:56] <blazemore> anton02: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop would be the closest
[13:56] <anton02> oh
[13:56] <anton02> is there a way to apt-get install everything that would be on a dvd?
[13:56] <blazemore> No because some packages can't be installed alongside each other
[13:56] <anton02> i just dont want to have to keep installing stuff. i want everything i would ever need now
[13:56] <blazemore> What do you actually want to achieve?
[13:56] <blazemore> Oh
[13:57] <blazemore> You could set up a local apt mirror
[13:57] <blazemore> But I don't understand your motives
[13:57] <anton02> cool
[13:57] <anton02> how big would the whole mirror be
[13:57] <blazemore> Very very large
[13:57] <anton02> about 20gb?
[13:57] <blazemore> Depends how many of the repositories you want to mirror
[13:58] <anton02> i just amd64
[13:58] <anton02> want
[13:58] <blazemore> Just the main, security, and updates repository for a single architecture is about 70GiB
[13:58] <blazemore> If you also want universe and multiverse, it will be a LOT more
[13:58] <anton02> what does universe have that main doesnt have?
[13:59] <blazemore> !universe | anton02
[13:59] <blazemore> The first link
[13:59] <anton02> actually im on debian so would that still apply to me
[13:59] <blazemore> !debian | anton02
[13:59] <Pici> no. ask in #debian
[14:00] <blazemore> Debian's not supported here, anton02 - they have their own active channel on this network in #debian
[14:00] <anton02> i was there but theres some asshoels that dont like answering legit questions
[14:00] <auronandace> !language | anton02
[14:00] <usr13> anton02: Ignore him.
[14:02] <usr13> anton02: If you lean to get along with everyone, you will be able to get *way* better support.  IRC channels are a great help for you and the rest of us, don't let some rude person run you off.  If you ignore thier rude comments you can function just fine in spite of them.
[14:03] <anton02> okay ill try again there
[14:03] <usr13> anton02: (Don't let someone else control your emotions, don't let them push your buttons :)
[14:03] <blazemore> anton02: You might want to think a little bit about what you *actually* want from this endeavour
[14:04] <anton02> i have a 10mb/s connection at uni, and about 20kb/s at home so it's annoying having to install stuff at home
[14:04] <blazemore> anton02: Habits from Gentoo don't necessarily translate to Debian; I don't know Gentoo but it's possible you're doing the equivelant of buying a motorbike and then demanding someone sell you a steering-wheel cover that fits
[14:04] <blazemore> ie "emerge world" might have no equivelant on Debian
[14:08] <Okitain> anton02: download the 3 DVD isos and mount them at home.
[14:08] <anton02> is there groups of software you can install like all development software for example
[14:08] <blazemore> anton02: Look at "tasksel" application
[14:08] <anton02> i only have access to a mirror that doesn't have debian-cd
[14:08] <blazemore> anton02: Okitain's suggestion of downloading the Debian DVDs for safe-keeping isn't a bad idea, but I'm ending this discussion and asking you to continue it with the folks in #debian
[14:09] <Pici> Can we please move the debian discussion to #debian?
[14:09] <Pici> blazemore: thanks :)
[14:09] <Peanut> Hi folks - is swapping on SSD recommended? I've got a server with 64GB of RAM (for virtual guests), and 2x 120G SSD - I'd rather not reserve 25% of my SSD capacity for swap?
[14:09] <blazemore> anton02: And if you PM me the URL of any files you need I can mirror them for you temporarily on a very fast server
[14:09] <blazemore> Peanut: You probably don't need much/any swap with that much RAM
[14:10] <blazemore> Peanut: Repeated writes to an SSD lower its life-span, so anything which minimises writes to an SSD will increase its life-span
[14:10] <usr13> Peanut: It is not a big issue.
[14:10] <Peanut> blazemore: thanks
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: swap wears out SSDs, you could get a small HDD or even a USB stick as swap, save your internal SSDs
[14:10] <blazemore> However Peanut in real life you'll likely replace those SSDs before they fail
[14:10] <Peanut> I hope the machine won't ever swap, as long as I don't overcommit the ram.
[14:10] <usr13> Peanut: I know there are those that avoid creating swap partitions on SSDs but it doesn't make that much difference.  I would go on and do it.
[14:10] <blazemore> I would *hope* Linux pre-emptively copies pages to the swap file...
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: depends on the activities and settings on the guests
[14:11] <blazemore> Peanut: My advice for you is to make a small (4GiB) swap partition, which probably won't ever get used
[14:11] <blazemore> Peanut: Your SSDs aren't going to catch fire
[14:11] <Peanut> The machine got a bit more memory than I intended, because of a too-good-to-resist offer from the vendor *grin*
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: i'd make a tempfs storage and have all temps and so forth use that, rather than the SSDs
[14:12] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: RAM is cheap
[14:12] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: If you have plenty of RAM, the swap partition is not used that much.  So if you have an SSD, just make sure you have plenty of RAM and don't worry about it.
[14:12] <kuhno> i've already killed 2 SSD... so i don't swap to SSD any more
[14:12] <Peanut> kuhno: ouch..
[14:12] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: tempfs storage?
[14:12] <kuhno> but at least i pay the same money each time and get double capacity :)
[14:13] <Peanut> Also, on 13.04, do I need to add anything to fstab to activate trim?
[14:13] <kuhno> i even told my windows to swap to the ramdisk because it didn't boot without swap file...
[14:14] <blazemore> Peanut: Not in fstab, but you do need to jump through a couple of low hoops... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[14:14] <Drewroo> hey can i get some help with something?
[14:14] <blazemore> !ask | Drewroo
[14:15] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: (I am not sure how tempfs storage would incur fewer read-writes.)
[14:15] <Bjond> usr13: it uses the ram, right?
[14:16] <Drewroo> im trying to run sudo apt-get install git build-essential libgtk2.0-dev libwxgtk2.8-dev libwx-perl libmodule-build-perl libnet-dbus-perl      but then i get this E: Unable to locate package libwxgtk2.8-dev
[14:16] <Drewroo> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libwxgtk2.8-dev'
[14:16] <Drewroo> E: Unable to locate package libwx-perl
[14:16] <Drewroo> E: Unable to locate package libnet-dbus-perl
[14:16] <usr13> Bjond: I don't know, (don't think so).
[14:16] <Drewroo> welll didnt mean to break that up
[14:16] <blazemore> Drewroo: a) don't paste multiple lines to the channel. b) run "sudo apt-get update" first
[14:16] <Drewroo> did that
[14:16] <kuhno> !patience
[14:16] <Bjond> !tmpfs | usr13
[14:16] <blazemore> Drewroo: Can you put the whole command you ran, and the full output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com please?
[14:17] <Okitain> Drewroo: does installing a random program, say, nano, work?
[14:17] <usr13> Bjond: See, ubottu doesn't even know about tmpfs
[14:18] <blazemore> Okitain: nano ships with Ubuntu, that was a poor example. Let me see his error first
[14:18] <Bjond> usr13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: you'd be writing temp rubbish to the RAM instead of to the SSD
[14:18] <Drewroo> i just installed xchat
[14:18] <Drewroo> and am using it
[14:18] <usr13> Okitain: What do you mean by random program?
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: I use it for web cache, speeds up browsing slightly
[14:18] <blazemore> Drewroo: Can you put the whole command you ran, and the full output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com please?
[14:18] <Drewroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992893/
[14:18] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: I see.  Ok.  Thanks
[14:19] <blazemore> !info libwx-perl
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: if you can reduce the writes to slow HDDs and keep data in RAM as much as possible the OS will run faster
[14:19] <blazemore> Drewroo: if you open your Software Sources options program, can you make sure the "universe" repository is ticked?
[14:19] <Drewroo> would it be useful to know im using the 64bit ubuntu?
[14:19] <blazemore> Drewroo: Usually yes, but in this case I know the problem
[14:20] <Achillesiv> not sure if this is the right place but I'm currently on 13.04 and on gedit the options file, edit, etc are not there.  I'm guessing it might be some security thing kind of like su password being disabled by default.
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: uname -m      x86_64 = 64bit    i686 = 32bit
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> Achillesiv: move your mouse to the top panel
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> Achillesiv: there is no 'su password', its not a thing
[14:21] <Achillesiv> tried that, but it didn
[14:21] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: True.  But again, if you have plenty of RAM, swap is not used that much and what is loaded into RAM just stays there and is used as needed.  So, theoretically, it doesn't make a lot of difference.  Right?
[14:21] <Achillesiv> did not work
[14:22] <Drewroo> blazemore:  im kind of a noob with ubuntu  where is this software sources program?
[14:22] <blazemore> Drewroo: Hit the dash and search for it :)
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: vm.swappiness will dictate how often data is swapped out etc, seeting it to 1 will help lots
[14:22] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: Right.
[14:22] <blazemore> Drewroo: Or poke around System Settings by clicking the cog in the top-right corner of the screen
[14:22] <xkernel> I can't find MDB2_Driver_sqlite in apt-get
[14:22] <blazemore> !details | xkernel what are you trying to do? Who told you to look for it there
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> Achillesiv: does it affect other text editors? Try installing leafpad
[14:23] <Drewroo> yea i did that but i see ubuntu store and software & updates
[14:23] <blazemore> Drewroo: Software and updates
[14:23] <xkernel> blazemore, Ubuntu 13.04, trying to install MDB2_Driver_sqlite to allow owncloud use sqlite
[14:23] <blazemore> Drewroo: Sorry I can't remember what things are called exactly
[14:23] <blazemore> xkernel: Are you following a tutorial?
[14:23] <Drewroo> ok
[14:24] <Drewroo> universe is checked
[14:24] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: what do you want to achieve?
[14:24] <Drewroo> already was
[14:24] <xkernel> blazemore, no but got that error from the log
[14:24] <blazemore> Drewroo: OK now it'll work
[14:24] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: He was getting an error installing some packages which are in Universe; his Universe component was disabled, I had him enable it. Waiting for confirmation
[14:24] <blazemore> xkernel: sudo apt-get install php-mdb2-driver-mysql
[14:25] <Drewroo> o wait i must of inabled that when it asked if i wanted to use universe source when installing xchat -.-
[14:25] <Drewroo> so basically i fixit on accident
[14:25] <Achillesiv> leafpad eh will check it out
[14:25] <xkernel> blazemore, it's already installed but i want sqlite not mysql
[14:25] <blazemore> lol Drewroo
[14:25] <blazemore> xkernel: sudo apt-get install php-mdb2-driver-sqlite
[14:25] <Drewroo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:25] <Achillesiv> it does work for the terminal or at least with options on the panel just not gedit
[14:26] <blazemore> Drewroo: Pastebin the entire error, please. Also, did you run sudo apt-get update first?
[14:26] <xkernel> blazemore, it's not there as I said in the begining
[14:26] <Drewroo> not since enabling universe?
[14:26] <blazemore> OK xkernel except you said you were trying to install something called MDB2_Driver_sqlite
[14:26] <Drewroo> you think thats the problem?
[14:27] <blazemore> Yes Drewroo You need to update the repository
[14:27] <Drewroo> gotcha
[14:27] <blazemore> xkernel: humour me: sudo apt-get install php-mdb2-driver-sqlite
[14:27] <Drewroo> still get that error
[14:27] <Drewroo> ill pastebin
[14:27] <daftykins> Marissa: hey, interesting to hear - i think i would have an idea on that apache behaviour possibly
[14:27] <blazemore> Drewroo: Close the window where you enabled Universe
[14:28] <xkernel> blazemore, yeah sorry I didn't mention the package name but php-mdb2-driver-sqlite is not here
[14:28] <blazemore> !info php-mdb2-driver-sqlite
[14:28] <usr13> !pastebinit | Drewroo
[14:29] <blazemore> xkernel: Are you following a tutorial?
[14:29] <b0x> Schrodinger`Cat: are you alive?
[14:29] <usr13> Drewroo: For example; You can do  sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[14:30] <Drewroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992928/
[14:30] <xkernel> blazemore, Nope!
[14:30] <ball999> why i don't see php and nginx user or group in cat /etc/passwd ?
[14:30] <blazemore> ball999: Have you installed nginx?
[14:30] <ball999> yes
[14:30] <ball999> it is running right now
[14:31] <ball999> www-data is nginx user
[14:31] <auronandace> Drewroo: why are you using such an old kernel?
[14:31] <Guest16804> :Blazemore I am back sorry about that restart. The output of the command cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness is no such file or directory
[14:31] <Drewroo> dunno i just downloaded yesterday...
[14:31] <usr13> Drewroo: uname -r
[14:31] <blazemore> The thing that stands out to me there, Drewroo is "update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media"
[14:31] <Achillesiv> well leafpad did give me options but I was hoping to go to edit,preferences,plugins,the goal was to disable the file panel plugin
[14:32] <Drewroo> ah
[14:32] <blazemore> Drewroo: I think you need a reboot
[14:32] <Drewroo> i understand the problem then
[14:32] <Achillesiv> ok will give it a try
[14:32] <blazemore> Solves 99% of weirdness
[14:32] <Achillesiv> right on man
[14:33] <blazemore> Guest16804: Are there any directories under /sys/class/backlight? (ls /sys/class/backlight)
[14:33] <Drewroo> im running from live usb, which i assumed i could keep a uh workstation for on the go, can i not do that with ubuntu?
[14:33] <blazemore> Drewroo: Everything will be lost when you reboot
[14:33] <Drewroo> lame
[14:33] <blazemore> !persistance
[14:33] <Drewroo> even with persistant
[14:33] <blazemore> Oh fine
[14:33] <blazemore> Did you already set up persistance?
[14:33] <auronandace> !usb | Drewroo
[14:33] <ball999> can you please tell me how to give www-data permission to write in one folder? thanks in advance
[14:33] <Drewroo> well when i used live usb creator program
[14:33] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: if you have persistance then changes will be kept
[14:34] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: you needed to conciously set persistance
[14:34] <blazemore> Drewroo: What was the name of the program you used to make the bootable USB/ Was it Linux Live USB (LiLi) ?
[14:34] <Guest16804> blazemore,  it says /sys/class/backlight is a directory
[14:34] <blazemore> yeah Guest16804 do ls not cat
[14:34] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: if you boot to an ubuntu  install media, you can install to USB without issue, like a normal internal hdd
[14:34] <usr13> ball999: Which folder?
[14:35] <ball999> in ww
[14:35] <Guest16804> blazemore, the output of ls /sys/class/backlight is ls /sys/class/backlight
[14:35] <ball999> /usr/share/nginx/www/folder/
[14:36] <Drewroo> universal usb installer
[14:36] <Drewroo> so im guessing i have to redo it
[14:36] <linuxliam> anyone having trouble with skype crashin constantly
[14:37] <mandla> Hello
[14:37] <usr13> ball999: The way I do it is just serve from /home/  Like:   /home/ball999/www  or /home/ball999/public_html or /home/ball999/site1 or /home/ball999/site2 Something like that, (and just symlink to /var/www/
[14:39] <usr13> ball999: chown www-data /usr/share/nginx/www/folder/  #But again, if you serve from a /home/ dir you don't have to do that. And you can create a new user for each site if you want.
[14:39] <ball999> please can you tell me where is www apache folder in ubuntu?
[14:39] <somsip> ball999: /var/www usually
[14:39] <mandla> i want to install a dell 110T LTO5 tape drive using the LSI SAS HBA
[14:40] <somsip> linuxliam: not since the last couple of upgrades. Is it up to date and where did you install from?
[14:40] <mandla> on ubuntu 10.04 using poweredge 1900
[14:40] <usr13> ball999: Oh, you are using nginx?    Well, same applies, nginx as well as apache will follow symlinks.
[14:41] <satmandu> Hi all... I was wondering if I could ask a question about rebooting at vfs related kernel panics... (How do I get the kernel to reboot if it can't find nfs rootfs?)
[14:41] <usr13> ball999: So, are you actually using nginx?  (Or apache2?)
[14:41] <blazemore> !nomodeset > rebarbror
[14:41] <linuxliam> somsip: 13.04 repos
[14:42] <ActionPa1snip> mandla: have you contacted Dell?
[14:42] <somsip> linuxliam: it may be worth downloading the deb from Skype and installing with sudo dpkg -i skype.deb, but usually the official repo is the only official recommendation
[14:42] <blazemore> !skype > linuxliam
[14:43] <Porkidio2183> Ubuntu is deliberately preventing me from avoiding to show recent files and folder in the dash. How come i can't get it to NOT show me anything under there? Privacy options is NO HELP!!!!!
[14:44] <usr13> ball999: You can create symlinks like so:  ln -s /home/ball999/site1 /var/www/awesome-site1 ; ln -s /home/ball999/site2 /var/www/asesome-site2  etc..
[14:44] <linuxliam> blazemore: i did it didnt help
[14:44] <usr13> ball999: Or have different user for each site.
[14:45] <blazemore> Porkidio2183: Go to System Settings and choose Privacy. Then, turn off the button next to Record Activity.
[14:46] <linuxliam> skype seems to core dump when in video call i am aware its a propitiatory package so not much can be done to help
[14:46] <blazemore> linuxliam: Are you using the latest version from Microsoft?
[14:47] <blazemore> linuxliam: What is the output of       dpkg -l | grep skype-bin | awk '{print $3}'
[14:48] <linuxliam> blazemore: 4.2.0.11
[14:48] <james__> hello
[14:49] <blazemore> linuxliam: Is it easy to reproduce? Do you have a copy of the error message(s) and core dumps etc?
[14:49] <blazemore> hello james__
[14:49] <buffy-976> t
[14:49] <linuxliam> blazemore: i could probably reproduce it but  i cant right now
[14:50] <ni551801> Hey?
[14:50] <blazemore> Hello ni551801
[14:51] <ni551801> is there a German User on?
[14:51] <blazemore> !de | ni551801
[14:52] <SkyDreamer> Is there a code of the bot ubottu ?
[14:52] <blazemore> SkyDreamer: It runs Bucket, I believe
[14:52] <Myrtti> SkyDreamer: it's a supybot
[14:53] <blazemore> I believed wrong
[14:53] <blazemore> !bots | SkyDreamer
[14:53] <SkyDreamer> Okay thanks
[14:53] <MasterProgram> I need help trouble shooting my lamp server setup. It was working and now it's not, What's worse the software center says that mysql-server 5.5 is installed but it fails when I try and remove it, so that I can reinstall it. As well tasksel says lamp-server isn't installed and when I try and install it, it fails!
[14:55] <cinvoke> xubuntu 13.04 halts on checking battery state. i read that my Xauthority file may be corrupted, so i moved that and rebooted.  however, this didnt fix the problem.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[14:57] <Xor64> Hello there
[14:57] <Xor64> Does anyone know why ubuntu makes my fans speed up so much ?
[14:57] <Xor64> And the CPU is getting terribly hot
[14:57] <Okitain> Xor64: try running powertop?
[14:57] <CuboidCatfish> Hi
[14:58] <cinvoke> yo
[14:58] <CuboidCatfish> :D
[14:58] <Okitain> CuboidCatfish: hullo.
[14:58] <CuboidCatfish> I want to talk something other than Ubuntu. do /join#ubuntu-social
[14:59] <MasterProgram> I need help trouble shooting my lamp server setup. It was working and now it's not, What's worse the software center says that mysql-server 5.5 is installed but it fails when I try and remove it, so that I can reinstall it. As well tasksel says lamp-server isn't installed and when I try and install it, it fails!
[14:59] <Strav> he. I'm having a hard time to get rid of some glxinfo error message on a remote ubuntu 13.04 vm. If anyone can help, here is the output of glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/cyvWtg4D (when accessing the vm via ssh with X redirection). Note that ultimately, I'm trying to get the android emulator to run past the initialization of opengles when accessing with freenx or vnc. When trying to run glxinfo from freenx, I get:
[14:59] <Strav> http://pastebin.com/fsVSf2na.
[14:59] <Xor64> I was told powertop is not that good, but I'll try
[15:00] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: it wont let you purge it?
[15:00] <MasterProgram> cinvoke: how do i do that?
[15:01] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: just t be clear, youd like to remove it and install again?
[15:01] <MasterProgram> yes
[15:01] <blazemore> !ubuntu-channels | CuboidCatfish
[15:01] <blazemore> CuboidCatfish: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:02] <horrorxstory> hey everyone
[15:02] <blazemore> hello horrorxstory
[15:02] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server55
[15:02] <MasterProgram> cinvoke: since last night when I tried to let software updater update my system, my system wont update, remove and/or install software.
[15:02] <Xor64> X is using 30 ms/s, is that normal ?
[15:03] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: sudo apt-get install mysql-server55
[15:03] <cinvoke> o
[15:03] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: oh
[15:03] <Xor64> although I have a global CPU usage of 3.6%
[15:03] <blazemore> MasterProgram: What is the output of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[15:03] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: what error message?
[15:03] <blazemore> Xor64: Not a problem, then
[15:04] <Xor64> blazemore: Should I toggle the things shown as "Bad" in tunables ?
[15:04] <blazemore> Xor64: Are you talking about powertop?
[15:04] <Xor64> blazemore: yep
[15:05] <blazemore> Xor64: You can if you want; I don't use a laptop so I don't use it
[15:05] <silkcut> ahoy hoy
[15:05] <blazemore> ahoy hoy mr burns
[15:05] <Strav> Just out of curiosity. Is ubuntu still going ahead with it's ad-ware desktop?
[15:05] <blazemore> What do you mean Strav ?
[15:06] <blazemore> I've never heard of this, and it's the sort of thing I'd have heard...
[15:06] <cinvoke> anyone in here good at debugging boot issues?
[15:06] <blazemore> So unless it's been announced in the last 30 minutes, you're mistaken
[15:06] <MasterProgram> blazemore & cinvoke:  I ran sudo apt-get update and it didn't give me an error.
[15:06] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: whats the output of sudo apt-get purge mysql-server55?
[15:06] <blazemore> MasterProgram: When you say your system "won't" update or install software, what do you mean? Do you get an error every time?
[15:07] <auronandace> Strav: you can disable and  even remove the amazon plugin if you so desire
[15:07] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: that command should delete your mysql server.  please make sure thats ok.
[15:07] <Strav> blazemore: well those useless lenses that will allow to pollute my application searches with proprietary softwares, amazon and soon to be many many other companies search results?
[15:08] <blazemore> Strav: You can disable online sources in the options
[15:09] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I don't so much know about the installing of new software, but software updater tells me that it fails to install the new updates. Then it's like the updater crashes.
[15:09] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Can you please paste the output of running the command "sudo apt-get upgrade" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:09] <Strav> auronandace, blazemore: I know all this. What I'm wondering is: do they still wish to push advertisement on the platform? (last time I checked, there was those announcements of more lenses to come ... no will to turn those off by default, etc. etc.)
[15:10] <blazemore> Strav: It's not advertising, and this is the end of this discussion. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:10] <auronandace> Strav: not really a discussion for this channel, this is just support, try asking in #ubuntu-discuss
[15:10] <Okitain> Xor64: what video card are you using?
[15:11] <Strav> ok then back to my real issue: I'm having a hard time to get rid of some glxinfo error message on a remote ubuntu 13.04 vm. If anyone can help, here is the output of glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/cyvWtg4D (when accessing the vm via ssh with X redirection). Note that ultimately, I'm trying to get the android emulator to run past the initialization of opengles when accessing with freenx or vnc. When trying to run glxinfo from freenx, I
[15:11] <Strav> get: http://pastebin.com/fsVSf2na.
[15:11] <Xor64> ATI Radeon HD something Mobility
[15:11] <linuxliam> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5993067/
[15:11] <Xor64> I'm trying to install proprietary drivers
[15:11] <blazemore> Aww linuxliam you're pretty stuffed... I guess you could try completely removing the ~/.Skype directory
[15:12] <blazemore> Xor64: There isn't a card currently being manufactured called "ATI Radeon HD something Mobility"
[15:12] <linuxliam> :/
[15:12] <Xor64> Radeon HD 7670M
[15:13] <Xor64> to be more precise :P
[15:13] <blazemore> sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle xvba-va-driver libva-glx1 libva-egl1 vainfo; sudo aticonfig --initial
[15:13] <blazemore> Then reboot
[15:13]  * genii ponders && instead of ;
[15:14] <Xor64> I'm currently installing proprietary fglrx through the "software source" utility
[15:14] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I ran the sudo apt-get upgrade command and created a gist for it here, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63
[15:14] <blazemore> genii is probably right, although it won't matter reallyin this case
[15:14] <blazemore> MasterProgram: What is the output of "sudo service mysql restart" ?
[15:15] <Xor64> blazemore: I guess it'll install all of these and configure itself then
[15:15] <ActionPa1snip> genii: && will only run the next command if the previous command worked (and returned '0'), ; will simply run regardless
[15:17] <sirg> hi
[15:18] <sirg> what is the best way to set permissions and ownership of the /var/www/ folder?
[15:18] <MasterProgram> blazermore: I ran the sudo service mysql restart command and added the output to the gist from before, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63!
[15:18] <blazemore> sirg: chmod and chown, respectively
[15:18] <blazemore> MasterProgram: sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5
[15:21] <RayWizard> chrome uses too much ram, sadly 8 gb is not enought for casual browsing nowdays, i heard there is linux patch that predicts pages it whould need to load and prefetches them from swapfile but dont remember name, can someone enghliten me?
[15:21] <blazemore> RayWizard: if your browser is using 8GiB RAM for casual browsing, that's the problem you should be asking about
[15:22] <RayWizard> blazemore: firefox gui gets very laggy due to single threaded nature, when on ~200 tabs
[15:22] <rootpt> I use tor_vm to hide my real IP, but i have a problem.
[15:22] <rootpt> In the ubuntu machine i configure the file /etc/resolv.conf to use the ip of the TOR network like this: nameserver 192.168.1.5 (ip of the tor_vm machine)..
[15:22] <rootpt> All works fine but i've got one little problem..
[15:22] <rootpt> The IP automatically switches after 10 or 15 minutes.. do u know why ? i want that IP in the file resolv.conf to not change.. anyone can help me?
[15:22] <FloodBot1> rootpt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard  rephrase: how to prevent 8gb being used for casual browsing
[15:22] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I was successful using the sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 but tasksel will still not install lamp server and I no longer have it telling me that their is software to be updated?
[15:23] <blazemore> rootpt: Change it in network manager
[15:23] <blazemore> rootpt: Could you just let me know exactly what line 2 of your /etc/resolv.conf file says? I just need to check something
[15:23] <RayWizard> MonkeyDust: modern browsers dont have LRU cache of curently used pages, casue users that need 100+ tabs are not majority of their market
[15:24] <blazemore> ikonia: How'd you know he was on kali?
[15:24] <ikonia> blazemore: I am amazing
[15:24] <blazemore> Do you quickly grep the nick of everyone who asks a question?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard  100+ tabs is not casual browsing
[15:24] <blazemore> Because I do
[15:26] <cinvoke> blazemore: how do you grep in here?
[15:26] <blazemore> cinvoke: I mean grep your own log files
[15:26] <cinvoke> blazemore: o :)
[15:26] <nightdrever> at boot my pc says kvm dissabled by bios what is kvm and what drawbacks it not running?
[15:27] <blazemore> !kvm | nightdrever
[15:27] <blazemore> nightdrever: If you don't know what it is, you don't need to worry about it :)
[15:27] <cinvoke> blazemore: do you use a terminal client?
[15:27] <RayWizard> i used to browse 300+ tabs in opera in 2008 on 2gb of ram
[15:27] <blazemore> cinvoke: I do, I use weechat
[15:27] <cinvoke> blazemore: thx!
[15:28] <Tomy2938> when I tried mounting a remote nfs filesystems I can't create files on the local mount, it keep stating "Read-only file system"
[15:28] <Tomy2938> When I check the parameters of the mount it shows as rw, any ideas?
[15:29] <chinno55> Anyone here use ARM Ubuntu?
[15:29] <blazemore> Tomy2938: Can you create files in that folder on the remote machine?
[15:29] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I also tried to reinstall mysql-server-5.5 using the software center and it says that "Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[15:29] <Tomy2938> blazemore, checking that
[15:29] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.5"
[15:31] <Tomy2938> blazemore, I was able to create and delete files in the source system
[15:31] <Tomy2938> The seocnd system where I am mounting it is not able to write to it
[15:32] <Tomy2938> I am using the following options in the NFS server exportfs 10.0.0.0/16(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
[15:33] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.5 and pasted the resulting output to the gist mentioned earlier, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63
[15:33] <Tomy2938> When I try mounting it on the second system I am mounting it as the following "mount -t nfs it5:/shares/webteamnfs -o auto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,rw /nfsmounts/webteamnfs"
[15:33] <Tomy2938> I am not sure why this isn'r working
[15:33] <Diranged> It seems like it may be impossible for me to make a 'metapackage' that dicatates the exact versions of a few other packages I want installed on a system, and have that able to force downgrades?
[15:34] <Diranged> Ie … Package 'meta 1.0 ' requiring 'nginx (= 1.2)', but 'meta 1.1' requiring 'nginx (= 1.3)'.. the install of meta 1.1 works, but t he install of meta1.0 fails if ive already got nginx 1.3..
[15:34] <Tomy2938> What could be causing this issue?
[15:34] <geudrik> I'm trying to get 8021q support going, but modprobe is throwing a hissy fit.. I get "libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-20-pve/modules.dep.bin'" as an error. Thoughts?
[15:34] <Diranged> Is that right?
[15:34] <blazemore> geudrik: What's the output of "file /lib/modules/2.6.32-20-pve/modules.dep.bin"
[15:35] <geudrik> blazemore: The file doesnt exist, hence my question. I installed the vlan package
[15:35] <leo-the-manic> For Ubuntu Server: is eBox still a thing? Does it have a homepage? Has it become "zentyal.org" somehow?
[15:36] <leo-the-manic> I am new and just came across some documentation about eBox but can't find any info for it on the web, other than community Ubuntu help
[15:36] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: What is eBox?
[15:36] <Pici> !ebox
[15:37] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: Sounds like webmin
[15:37] <macondo> If lsusb shows that my device is connected to Bus 004 Device 002, which ttyUSB port should I use?
[15:37] <blazemore> macondo: Is this for a serial terminal device connected over USB?
[15:37] <MasterProgram> blazemore: did you get a chance to check my gist yet?
[15:38] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Sorry I missed it earlier. "sudo apt-get -f install" and gist any errors please :)
[15:38] <macondo> blazemore: no, it's a usb device (specifically HP calculator)
[15:38] <blazemore> macondo: What are you asking then? What's a ttyUSB port?
[15:39] <macondo> blazemore: I have an application (HP Talx 1.3.1) which is asking for a ttyUSB port to connect to the calculator
[15:39] <macondo> and I'm not sure what to set it to
[15:39] <blazemore> macondo: Are there options for it, or is it just asking for an input?
[15:40] <macondo> blazemore: default is 0, but can be set to 1, 2, ...
[15:40] <MasterProgram> I'm assuming that the -f in the command tells the computer to fix all broken packages and the output didn't display any errors and/or fixes need?
[15:40] <blazemore> macondo: Try them all :P
[15:40] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Something like that. Pastebin the output and let me decide :)
[15:40] <Tomy2938> How can I mount this remote NFS mont to be RW on the second system?
[15:41] <blazemore> !nfs | Tomy2938 I'm assuming you've read this
[15:41] <b636bc7ca> I have a flat directory full of MP3 and FLAC files, named something like "Artist - Album - 01 Track Title.mp3", and I want to move that into a directory structure like "Artist/Album/01 Track Title.mp3"; because some things might have special characters like ', I wanted to use "find . -type f -exec..." to do this, but I can't figure out how to pipe commands to each other in -exec
[15:41] <b636bc7ca> any pointers would be welcome
[15:41] <MasterProgram> blazemore: gist has been updated, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63
[15:42] <waterlite> hmm
[15:44] <obert> hi, how can i fix a bad mysql upgrade, please?
[15:44] <blazemore> obert: Just out of interest, are you getting the error "mysql-server-5.5 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.13.04.1) but 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.13.04.2 is to be installed"
[15:44] <siva> hi every one
[15:44] <Xor64> hmmm, aticonfig says that no supported adapters were detected
[15:44] <blazemore> hi Guest43669
[15:44] <Guest43669> does anyone know about mininet......
[15:44] <somsip> b636bc7ca: maybe you can use this as a starting point. Easier than trying to come up with a one-liner maybe? http://is.gd/C4gDFv
[15:44] <blazemore> !anyone | Guest43669
[15:44] <obert> blazemore:  invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[15:45] <blazemore> obert: What is the output of "sudo service mysql restart" ?
[15:45] <b636bc7ca> somsip: That at least gives me a way forward - thank you. I had tried googling, but obviously didn't have the right GoogleFu today :)
[15:45] <Guest43669> ubottu, what you are trying to say
[15:46] <somsip> b636bc7ca: np 'linux split filename into sub directories' FWIW
[15:46] <b636bc7ca> somsip: Much obliged
[15:46] <Guest43669> How to run mininet in ubuntu
[15:46] <blazemore> Guest43669: What Ubuntu version?
[15:46] <Guest43669> blazemore, 13.04
[15:47] <Pici> Guest43669: Install the package and read the documentation at http://mininet.org/
[15:47] <MasterProgram> blazemore: have you looked at the gist from earlier to see the output from the sudo apt-get -f install command?
[15:47] <Guest43669> Pici, do you know anything about it..
[15:47] <blazemore> Guest43669: There are instructions here http://mininet.org/download/ look at "Option 3 - Native Installation from Packages"
[15:47] <Pici> Guest43669: No. I don't
[15:47] <Pici> !info mininet
[15:47] <blazemore> MasterProgram: yes
[15:47] <obert> blazemore: configuration of mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.2)... start: Job failed to start
[15:47] <obert>  
[15:47] <Guest43669> blazemore, what about ..do you know anything about it
[15:48] <blazemore> obert: Please can you pastebin the full output
[15:48] <blazemore> Guest43669: What do you want to know specifically? What part of the instructions aren't working for you?
[15:48] <obert> blazemore: the output of what? sudo apt-get update or upgrade?
[15:48] <Xor64> blazemore: earlier you told me to use aticonfig --initial, but it says "no supported adapter detected"
[15:48] <blazemore> Xor64: Did the packages install OK?
[15:49] <gschanuel> hello folks. I need some help with git.. I forked a project that I'm helping with translations. I have a computer used with development and another for testing. The environment I want to use is: 1) on dev_pc I change, commit and push. 2) on testing_pc I fetch and merge. The thing is, on testing_pc i need to change 3 files that will always remain the same, so I don't want to replace when I do a fetch.. how can I achieve that?
[15:49] <Xor64> blazemore: Well, I used the Software package installer GUI to install the proprietary drivers, and installed the remaining packets that were not installed
[15:49] <Guest43669> blazemore, first things is how to start mininet..and how it works ???? dont tell me see dash dash document...i have read everything but i am not getting actuall what it do
[15:50] <Xor64> blazemore: everything went okay during install
[15:50] <blazemore> Guest43669: Scroll down to Option 3 in the document and follow the instructions
[15:50] <b636bc7ca> gschanuel: http://blog.apiaxle.com/post/handy-git-tips-to-stop-you-getting-fired/
[15:50] <Guest43669> blazemore, ok ok thank u
[15:50] <blazemore> Guest43669: If you aren't capable of following the instructions, look at Option 1, which is where the mininet developers have pre-prepared an Ubuntu virtual machine image with mininet installed
[15:50] <gschanuel> b636bc7ca, nice :) thanks
[15:51] <blazemore> Xor64: Is Additional Drivers tool saying the proprietry driver is in use?
[15:51] <streulma> hello, I had to reset my Macbook Pro and my screen is flickering now, how can I reset EFI? I was installing Ubuntu with EFI
[15:52] <Guest43669> blazemore, sir i have installed it ...no problem with it..i just want to for what purpose it will be used
[15:52] <blazemore> streulma: Flickering screen sounds like a hardware issue...
[15:52] <Xor64> blazemore: Yep, it says 2 proprietary drivers are in use (there's my broadcom wifi controller too)
[15:52] <blazemore> Guest43669: Well I don't even know what it is, presumably you knew what it was when you wanted to install it?
[15:52] <blazemore> Guest43669: Why did you want to install it if you don't even know what it is used for?
[15:53] <Guest43669> blazemore, sorry i will get to u after reading what actually it is...
[15:54] <blazemore> Guest43669: OK I'm actually curious now so this is a real question: Why did you want to install it if you don't even know what it is used for?
[15:55] <obert> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/ZwgM2N54 (sorry it is in italian)
[15:55] <themhz> is there anything similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunascape?
[15:55] <themhz> in ubuntu
[15:55] <themhz> ?
[15:56] <Guest43669> blazemore, ok ...i am doing pg in information security ...so i got an assignment from my instructor of a particular course to simulate lan or wan by using mininet..but after installing it i got the confusion how to start ..and where to start
[15:57] <blazemore> Guest43669: Most IRC channels won't help you with assignments
[15:57] <Xor64> blazemore: I have even tried with the new "/usr/lib/fglrx/bin/amdconfig --initial" for post 2012 december drivers, and still the same error "No supported adapters detected"
[15:58] <blazemore> Guest43669: I'd start by reading the mininet documentation - once you've got it installed, my work here is done, so to speak
[15:58] <blazemore> Xor64: What graphics card did you have again?
[15:59] <Guest43669> blazemore, i did not asked anyone to do my assignment...i am new to linux operating system..thats why i asked if anyone knows about mininet ..did u got it
[15:59] <Xor64> blazemore: an ATI Radeon HD 7670M
[15:59] <blazemore> Xor64: And is this Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:00] <Xor64> blazemore: Yes it is
[16:00] <blazemore> Xor64: sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh && sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[16:00] <blazemore> Xor64: Then follow instructions on this page http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[16:00] <maxi12> q
[16:00] <maxi12> q
[16:00] <maxi12> q
[16:00] <FloodBot1> maxi12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> Guest43669: is it like a virtual network simulator?
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> !info mininet
[16:01] <TimR>  can anybody tell me tell me how to get Linksys USB100TX usb adapter to work on ubuntu 12.04.2lts
[16:01] <Xor64> blazemore: Alright thanks, will try, although, it says fglrx-uninstall.sh doesn't exist
[16:01] <blazemore> Oh
[16:02] <Guest43669> Action
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: what network chip does it use?
[16:02] <TimR> how do I know that?
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: sudo lshw -C network; lsusb      will give you information, you can use parts of the output to find guides
[16:02] <TimR> alright let me go plug it in
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: try not to get tied up with the pretty plastic case, you need to know the chips inside
[16:03] <ffio> is ubuntu and debian exactly similar in all aspects ?
[16:03] <blazemore> ffio: No, or there'd be no point in them being different distros now would there :P
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <FloodBot1> maxi12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <Guest43669> ActionPalsnip, ok ..how to run mininet..means when i run the command gave in the document it went on creating new networks upto 100...this caused me my network connection down
[16:04] <blazemore> ikonia: ping
[16:04] <shine_> test
[16:04] <supNow> Anyone in here actually work for Ubuntu?
[16:04] <blazemore> for Canonical?
[16:04] <shine_> :)
[16:04] <ikonia> blazemore: hello
[16:04] <supNow> Ubuntu has an office in Bedford, MA
[16:04] <supNow> I'm looking to reach them
[16:05] <ffio> blazemore: whats the main difference between ubuntu and debian ?
[16:05] <ikonia> blazemore: did you want me ?
[16:05] <gribouille> hi
[16:05] <obert> ...
[16:05] <gribouille> what does "extent format" mean?
[16:06] <blazemore> supNow: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[16:06] <blazemore> gribouille: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extent_%28file_systems%29
[16:07] <supNow> thanks @blazemore I'm actually looking for a number. I got my office all using Ubuntu now and we run Party Cruises out of Boston every Thursday and would like to invite Ubuntu to join us on one
[16:07] <blazemore> supNow: You should learn the name of the company first to avoid embarrasing yourself
[16:08] <supNow> the name on the door is Ubuntu... I'm not embaressed
[16:08] <blazemore> Ubuntu is an operating system
[16:08] <supNow> they are downstairs from ipswich
[16:08] <blazemore> Canonical don't have offices in North America do they?
[16:08] <supNow> Bedford, Ma
[16:09] <blazemore> supNow: nope http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact/our-offices
[16:09] <supNow> I did a web project for ipswich and ubuntu was on the first floor
[16:09] <blazemore> supNow: Whoever's in there, it's not Canonical
[16:09] <obert> thanks the same. later
[16:09] <supNow> well I'm not looking canonical
[16:09] <supNow> I'm looking for the ubuntu group :)
[16:09] <blazemore> Canonical is the company behind Ubuntu
[16:09] <supNow> right but ubuntu is a group from MIT
[16:09] <supNow> that's who I'm looking for
[16:09] <supNow> but thanks for the help anyway
[16:09] <blazemore> Are you looking for some sort of user group?
[16:09] <blazemore> Like a community group?
[16:09] <akinesie> hello
[16:10] <DJones> supNow: Its not exactlly a support issue, you'd be better asking in #ubuntu-offtopic rather here
[16:10] <blazemore> he was a wind-up
[16:11] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/sHGNGTtP
[16:11] <b0x> im trying to create a long string for a bash script, but the appends aren't working.. for ex: VAR1="foo" VAR1+="bar" .. $VAR1 = foobar
[16:11] <blazemore> !xubuntu | cinvoke
[16:12] <b0x> is that the correct syntax?
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> cinvoke: does the system have a make and model?
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> cinvoke: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[16:12] <blazemore> b0x: I'd say VAR1=$VAR1bar
[16:12] <b0x> :/
[16:12] <blazemore> b0x: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4181703/how-can-i-concatenate-string-variables-in-bash
[16:13] <cinvoke> ActionPa1snip: im running virtualbox on an hp 6510b.  i didnt install any prop drivers
[16:13] <cinvoke> blazemore: i tried that room, but never get answers :)
[16:14] <cinvoke> blazemore: ill try again
[16:14] <TimR> its showing linksys usb 100tx ethernet pegasus 0066:2203
[16:14] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: VAR1="foo"; VAR1=${VAR1}bar     maybe
[16:14] <b0x> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/1cF9w1bB
[16:14] <b0x> is current script
[16:14] <b0x> as far as im reading, you can use +=
[16:14] <kevin> how install pgdin in backtrack
[16:15] <blazemore> !backtrack | kevin
[16:15] <TimR> its 066b:2203*
[16:15] <b0x> however results dont reflect this
[16:15] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5993316/
[16:16] <b0x> ok great, thanks!
[16:16] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_USB100TX_v3.0
[16:18] <streulma> My screen was flickering in Macbook Pro after resetting power. I had tis 2x more on other Macbooks, after a time the screen stops flickering.
[16:18] <TimR> alright so how do I get the drivers or what ever to load?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: could try ndiswrapper + windows driver
[16:19] <TimR> ok
[16:19] <cinvoke> ActionPa1snip: should i try reinstalling the desktop?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: seems to be a broadcom BCM5201 chip
[16:19] <tsunamie> what happens to rsyslogs that are getting sent to remote servers and don't get accept. for example if your shipping them to graylogs2 and graylog2 is down. will the messages just be lost into the eithier and never get resent to graylog2?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: see if you can find guides for hat
[16:20] <b0x> ActionPa1snip: how do i escape a variable declaration??
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: you did read the page I gave, right?
[16:20] <TimR> yes I am reading it right now
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: use a '\' to escape stuff
[16:20] <b0x> ie.. ok
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: the you would have seen the chip, so you could find guides. right?
[16:21] <TimR> well im trying to find the guides
[16:22] <mmhun> This may not be the right place to ask (if so where do I go?) but about how many bits per second (of bandwidth) would an ssh session use? Assuming I'm constantly cat'ing a log or something.
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: try:  sudo modprobe bcm5201      is there any output?
[16:22] <TimR> well I have to switch wireless connection really quick
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> mmhun: if its just text, not a lot
[16:23] <mmhun> ActionPa1snip,  yes just text, and I know it's definitely not a lot, just wondering about what the max transfer rate is
[16:24] <TimR_> its not found there Action
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> mmhun: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1166636   at the bootom
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> mmhun: took me about 30 seconds to find...
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: then I'd go the ndiswrapper
[16:25] <TimR_> ok
[16:26] <b0x> ActionPa1snip: I'm declaring a string like this: DB_URL="mysql://user:pass@localhost:3306/$1\_d7" , but its coming back/return as: You are about to CREATE  the 'testsite1\_d7' database.
[16:26] <b0x> when passing testsite1 as the argument
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: i'd ask in #bash
[16:27] <mmhun> ActionPa1snip: I was wondering more about the implementation of ssh… not just a calculation. I'm assuming there's some sort of rate limit on it.
[16:27] <b0x> ta
[16:27] <prappl93> How do I access my Windows files across my network on Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:27] <ZIPY> prappl93: you need to install samba
[16:28] <prappl93> Thought so, for some reason I thought that came pre-packaged
[16:28] <prappl93> Thanks!
[16:29] <moondog> if I had an external hard drive that I wanted to use for backing up my Ubuntu system, would I typically leave it formatted NTFS or reformat it to EXT4?
[16:29] <moondog> thinking I'd use rsync
[16:33] <nogloww> Would someone be willing to help me with my track pad issues? I have searched forum after forum and can't find an answer. Any help would be appreciated. I hope I'm in the right place.
[16:35] <nogloww> This is an Ubuntu support chat right?
[16:35] <DJones> nogloww: It is
[16:35] <Tomy2938> no
[16:36] <Tomy2938> ;-)
[16:40] <nogloww> Would someone be willing to help me with my track pad issues? I have searched forum after forum and can't find an answer. Any help would be appreciated.
[16:40] <hio> so when can i get the ubuntu phone?
[16:40] <wow050> Hello, does anyone know how I can assign a drive letter to a flash drive?
[16:40] <DJones> !phone | hio
[16:40] <hio> a "drive letter"? no such thing in linux
[16:41] <hio> flash drives are under /media or something
[16:41] <wow050> hio, I know but I want to assign one for when I use it on Windows
[16:42] <gmj> anyone got experience with spice?
[16:43] <nogloww> anyone having trouble with elantech or synaptics track pads and ubuntu? once I installed ubuntu the track pad quit working
[16:43] <hio> How do I uninstall Ubuntu and get myself a real OS?
[16:44] <DJones> hio: Install the os you want over the top of Ubuntu
[16:44] <nogloww> hio- I haven't had any luck reinstalling another os if ubuntu is the sole os
[16:44] <hio> But how do I get rid of the nightmares?
[16:44] <nogloww> hio-heavy drugs
[16:44] <linuxliam> take sleeping pills ;)
[16:45] <iluvalar> Hi everyone, I'm running minecraft on oracle-sun on my nvdia driver... so I know I'm Evil but...
[16:45] <hio> Elementary OS is a billion times better than Ubuntu and you know it
[16:45] <iluvalar> I found out that when I send the game into another workplace, it solve my lag problems for about 10 more minutes...
[16:46] <linuxliam> DJones: gah the trolls
[16:46] <iluvalar> isn't there any other way to flush the gfx cache I could try ?
[16:47] <iluvalar> (I guess that's what happen when I switch workplaces...)
[16:47] <streulma> Ubuntu on a Mac :S
[16:47] <DJones> nogloww: Although I can't help with your issue, it might help people in the channel if you can give more details, what happens, what you expect to happen etc
[16:48] <linuxliam> iluvalar: you could also try using open jdk (mojosays it not supported it works fine )
[16:48] <iluvalar> linuxliam: yeah it work just fine here as well. but that doesnt help my lag issues...
[16:49] <streulma> is it better to run Ubuntu on a Mac in legacy BIOS mode then EFI? I had problems with EFI.
[16:49] <linuxliam> iluvalar: ah ok
[16:51] <iluvalar> linuxliam: Actually, I really looking just for a way to flush my cache. And see if it solve my problem
[16:51] <iluvalar> switching workplaces do... which is interesting...
[16:51] <nogloww> DJones- Once I installed Ubuntu over windows my trackpad is unresponsive, jerkey, and pretty much useless. The hard buttons still work but when I try to navigate it is unpredictable. Moves slightly but never where it's supposed to go.
[16:54] <nogloww> Has anyone else had similar track pad issues? I posted the question several times in the forums but no one has been able to help.
[16:55] <cff9> hi
[16:55] <linuxliam> iluvalar: cnt seem to find much on google
[16:59] <pc_magas> Hello I wonder is a program similar to Gwibber for ubuntu that support google+?
[16:59] <pc_magas> except the google+ plugin for firefox and Chromium
[17:01] <linuxliam> pc_magas: as far as im aware there isnt one yet
[17:01] <linuxliam> i've been looking myself
[17:01] <intrader> Everyone, I have it up to .... with Unity. The action of trying to grab the borders of a window  is just about impossible to achieve. Difficult to the hilt.  Similarly getting the menu actions of Freemind or Gvim is difficult.
[17:03] <iluvalar> linuxliam: well.. thank you anyway
[17:03] <OerHeks> intrader on ubuntu 13.04 : ALT + midlle mouse to auto grab to resize, or ALT + left mouse to grab and drag, hold windows key for more keys
[17:03] <iluvalar> linuxliam: I'm not sure how much, switching the workplace in troublesome anyway... I might just keep doing this
[17:04] <linuxliam> iluvalar:  sorry i could'nt be of more help
[17:04] <OerHeks> middle mouse can be pressing scrollwheel
[17:05] <intrader> OerHeks, yes, but I can't achieve without lots of luck. The action is too fast
[17:09] <dougbb> I'm having a problem with the software updater ... it says that there are 7 updates available, but when I do 'show updates' nothing appears in the window. Is there a way to reset that?
[17:10] <moondog> if I had an external hard drive that I wanted to use for backing up my Ubuntu system, would I typically leave it formatted NTFS or reformat it to EXT4?
[17:11] <moondog> thinking I'd use rsync
[17:11] <DJones> dougbb: I had that issue a couple of days ago, I tried waiting a couple of days with no change, in the end, I updated via terminal so that I could at least see what the updates were, since then its been fine
[17:12] <dougbb> moondog, if you're going to put Linux-only data on there, better to reformat. NTFS is fine for data, but  when mounted every file has the executable bit set, which is rough on backups
[17:12] <dougbb> DJones: do you have the 'update via terminal' commands handy?  I am familiar with the command line, but still learning debian/ubunty
[17:13] <dougbb> err, ubuntu as well :)
[17:13] <moondog> dougbb: right, permissions would be messed up if it's NTFS. I guess it would depend on if I need to read the data in Windows.
[17:13] <DJones> dougbb: sudo apt-get upate and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:13] <b636bc7ca> "apt-date update", not "upate" :)
[17:13] <dougbb> moondog, exactly .... although there is a decent read-only ext driver for windows, only works up to ext3 though IIRC
[17:13] <DJones> dougbb: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:13] <DJones> b636bc7ca: Good spot
[17:13] <dougbb> DJones: and b636bc7ca, thanks :)
[17:14] <moondog> dougbb: thanks for the info :)
[17:16] <dougbb> moondog: http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[17:16] <intrader> OerHeks, I am not trying to move a window, just resize by grabbing borders or corners
[17:16] <moondog> thanks, I'll take a look
[17:17] <dougbb> I've used that for read-only, but I don't mount the systems regularly, and although they support writing it's not like "robust windows file system" type of write support, FYI
[17:17] <OerHeks> intrader ALT + press scrollwheel does it instantly
[17:18] <dougbb> so is anyone else seeing this weird problem with software updater? I know they pushed an update to it recently, is there a bug that is being worked on which is well known, or should I go peruse launchpad?
[17:19] <intrader> OerHeks, I am sorry, I have no wheel (it is lenovo laptop). Thanks for your help
[17:20] <tapFizzle> hello all, i'm trying to understand better the status of iU in dpkg -l   if its installed but still unpacked, does that mean that the installation did not complete?
[17:20] <intrader> OerHeks, ... it grabs the border to resize?
[17:21] <OerHeks> intrader yes, just hang on the window, and you grab it like the corner.
[17:21] <OerHeks> intrader mayby both touchpad keys work as 3th mousekey ?
[17:24] <intrader> OerHeks, when the mouse approaches the border or corner, it fleetingly changes but the action disappears quickly.
[17:25] <intrader> OerHeks, since 11.04 ( I am running 12.04) all sort of stuff is weird with Unity. Last time it worked Ok was with 10.4
[17:26] <trism> tapFizzle: the first character is the desired status, the second is the actual package status
[17:27] <ffio> when i am installing scponly it says it is not installable ? why is that so ? how can i install that package ?
[17:29] <OerHeks> intrader ohh awesome, ALT + F8 does the same
[17:29] <DJones> ffio: Is that meant to be 'scponly' os 'scp'
[17:29] <ffio> DJones: scponly
[17:29] <OerHeks> intrader, hold the windows key for more help on keys
[17:29] <DJones> !find scponly
[17:30] <trism> ffio: it was deleted because of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650590
[17:30] <intrader> OerHeks, I don't think I have described the problem properly. Sorry.
[17:30] <ffio> trism: ok :) is their any replacement to that package ?
[17:31] <OerHeks> intrader i understand you want to resize by the corner, and the sensitivity is too high?
[17:32] <intrader> OerHeks, yes, but doing it is just about impossible as to catch the border or corner is very difficult
[17:33] <intrader> OerHeks, what sensitivity setting?
[17:33] <OerHeks> intrader, so with ALT + F8 you grab the window in resize mode, where ever you hold your mouse on the window
[17:34] <OerHeks> intrader, i cannot find sensitive settings for those corners.
[17:36] <trism> ffio: the bug mentions you can do it directly with sshd now, something like: http://serverfault.com/questions/83856/allow-scp-but-not-actual-login-using-ssh/83971#83971 (I haven't tried it though)
[17:37] <trism> ffio: oh seems there is also a debian admin article linked in the bug: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[17:37] <intrader> OerHeks, for example I just started Gvim. Moved the window to the middle of the screen. Then I trity to size by grabbing the border or the corner. Almost impossible; specially the right or left borders or the left or right bottom corners
[17:37] <ffio> trism: that was a hell lot of info :D
[17:39] <intrader> OerHeks, Alt + F8 will do, thanks
[17:39] <OerHeks> intrader, have fun :-)
[17:40] <ffio> trism: thank you so much :)
[17:41] <intrader> OerHeks, Unity s... Terryble, this was just one of the problems - the top menus bar action is strange.
[17:41] <SierraAR> Running lubuntu 12.04, I can't login to my system. When I enter my password on the login screen and click 'login', it flashes a couple black screens with text, then goes back to the login screen. I know the password is correct because I /can/ login through ctrl+alt+f1. I'm also able to log into the guest session just fine.
[17:42] <leo-the-manic> Is there any difference between 'aptititude install x' and 'apt-get install x'?
[17:42] <leo-the-manic> Or do they do the exact same thing?
[17:42] <holstein> SierraAR: i would say that is an issue with the session files in the users /home .config.. or something related to the desktop config.. i would blow them out or move them, and try again
[17:43] <DJones> !aptitude | leo-the-manic
[17:44] <SierraAR> holstein: Just tried that, still having the same issue
[17:45] <holstein> SierraAR: i dont think you moved what is broken then... what *exactly* did you try?
[17:46] <hdhdhd> Can anyone see what info is displayed of me?
[17:46] <holstein> hdhdhd: i see what you just typed, if thats what you are asking
[17:46] <SierraAR> holstein: I moved ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf to a temporary directory in my home folder. That was the only config file I could find in my home directory that looked like it could be related to the desktop. It doesn't look like a new desktop.conf was generated, either. I've also just checked ~/.xsession-errors to see if there was anything there and it's empty.
[17:47] <holstein> SierraAR: i would move the *entire* .config .. then, i would move more or all .hidden config files to "fix" the misconfiguration
[17:51] <exidos> hi
[17:51] <SierraAR> holstein: Renamed .config to .config.backup and rebooted, but I'm still having the same issue. It didn't generate a new .config either.
[17:52] <SierraAR> holstein: Actually, I vaguely recall coming across something awhile back about not being able to login if a file locking a session wasn't cleared on shutdown or something to that effect, but I can't remember the details or where I saw that
[17:53] <holstein> SierraAR: it should have.. and will , when you do it properly.. what do i suggest? create a new user.. log in as that user, and test.. see that the system is fine, and it is just your user account that you have broken
[17:53] <holstein> SierraAR: you can always remove *everything* from your user /home, and test.. and put back what you want
[17:55] <DJones> !rootirc | hdhdhd
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> hmm. my linux box seems to have locked up.
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> hmm. my linux box seems to have locked up/
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> Anyone know how to get it back without rebooting?
[17:56] <noob123> hello, my monitor is not working in ubuntu. It says unknow under the desiplay settings. I have video drivers. Anyone know what to do?
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> (sorry, the keyboard on the machine I'm using is strangely laid out)
[17:57] <cppCzar> Hello
[17:57] <SierraAR> holstein: I am able to log into the guest session. I've also created a new user and was able to log into that without an isse.
[17:58] <ffio_> i have created a virtual ubuntu machine and when i do scp to that machine it says connetion refused port 22
[17:58] <ffio_> i have installed ssh
[17:58] <SierraAR> holstein: I'm going to see what moving everything in the broken users homedir does.
[17:58] <cppCzar> You know the "username@hostname:~$" prompt? How do I change these two names?
[17:58] <intrader> OerHeks, thanks for hanging in there for me
[17:58] <ffio_> cppCzar: in .bashrc
[17:58] <holstein> SierraAR: then, the issue, friend, is with the /home of the user.. go ahead and remove *all* the data in the user home.. move it to a different location, and try logging in.. put back what you need/want
[17:59] <noob123> hello, my monitor is not working in ubuntu. It says unknow under the desiplay settings. I have video drivers. Anyone know what to do?
[17:59] <SierraAR> holstein: Just tried that, still the same issue. I completely moved /home/sierra to /home/sierra.backup
[17:59] <holstein> SierraAR: then, enjoy using the new user account you created
[17:59] <daftykins> ffio_: 'openssh-server' ?
[18:00] <daftykins> ^ is installed?
[18:00] <SierraAR> holstein: Is there a way to remove the other user without deleting its homedir, then create a new user that has the same perms and homedir as the old one?
[18:00] <cppCzar> I don't see anythin in .bashrc related to this
[18:00] <ffio_> daftykins: openssh-server is installed
[18:01] <holstein> SierraAR: im sure there are lots of ways to migrate to a new user
[18:01] <ffio_> daftykins: might be it be something related to virtualbox ?
[18:01] <hdhdhd> Do you use a virtual machine for UBUNTU?
[18:01] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/AUDAjk9e
[18:01] <daftykins> ffio_: you're networked with the VM by bridging so it has an IP on your physical network? also, could be ufw
[18:02] <tripelb> libreoffice3 question, ok? hi. how can i get a simple single Business card template in which, I make one card and it repeats across the page. .. or another program?
[18:03] <holstein> tripelb: i found it in the menu
[18:03] <DJones> tripelb: Have a look at gLabels I used it once for label printing, but I think it can do business cards as well
[18:05] <DJones> tripelb: Or as holstein said, libreoffice writer -> File -> New -> Business cards
[18:06] <tripelb> holstein. ones in menu do not work. all became doublesize and wont go single. force fields. done allow shit. (vistacard works but $$) I can dance rings w.vistac.
[18:06] <holstein> tripelb: !language
[18:06] <IdleOne> !language
[18:07] <ffio_> daftykins: removed and reinstalled openssh-client and openssh-server now works :)
[18:07] <tripelb> djones will try glabels. libre sucks sand.
[18:08] <tripelb>  thankd holstein DJones
[18:09] <cppCzar> How do I change my username in ubuntu? I did not find anything in .bashrc
[18:09] <holstein> cppCzar: there is a user account GUI
[18:10] <cppCzar> Correct, however I somehow managed to change the name of my account
[18:10] <cppCzar> while the prompt still uses a different name
[18:11] <ffio_> cppCzar: change the PS1 variable
[18:11] <cppCzar> i.e. My account name is "cppCzar" but on the prompt it shows up as "cppnoob@random:~$"
[18:11] <ffio_> echo $PS1
[18:11] <ffio_> cppCzar:  you can change it by modifying PS1 variable.
[18:11] <cppCzar> \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[18:11] <cppCzar> That was my echo $PS1
[18:14] <cppCzar> ..
[18:15] <ffio_> cppCzar: you can google customizing bash promts you can get many examples of it
[18:20] <cinvoke> how do i list all ubuntu channels?
[18:20] <DJones> !alis | cinvoke
[18:20] <cinvoke> DJones: thx
[18:22] <TheDimitri25> salut qui est francais
[18:22] <DJones> !fr | TheDimitri25
[18:25] <matt____> Hello world
[18:30] <km64> I am having a digital output sound issue on ver 13.04
[18:31] <BigFist> I keep receiving "empty" updates
[18:31] <BigFist> whats going on ?
[18:32] <km64> Is anyone available to help?
[18:34] <daftykins> km64: just ask!
[18:34] <RU-XerYuS> sup
[18:34] <DJones> BigFist: Something like this? http://imagebin.org/267290 I update via the terminal which told me what the updates were, since then update manager has been fine
[18:34] <km64> TY. I am having a digital output sound issue on ver 13.04
[18:35] <daftykins> km64: can you describe it?
[18:35] <cinvoke> if anyone is available to help with a boot issue, id really appreciate it.
[18:35] <daftykins> cinvoke: just ask with detail
[18:36] <km64> works ok output to front panel analog headphones.  In pulseadio selector shows  activity in the VU meter when testing but nothing comes out of speakers
[18:37] <cinvoke> id ask this in xubnutu, except no one ever ansers in there for me at least. xubuntu 13.04 halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/AUDAjk9e
[18:37] <km64> have reinstalled alsd and pulseaudio
[18:38] <daftykins> km64: out over optical it's silent?
[18:39] <km64> its an RCA digital connection
[18:39] <km64> shows in aplay as ALC888 Digital
[18:40] <daftykins> yeah that's a chip name, not a connection type
[18:40] <daftykins> km64: have you run alsamixer in a terminal to check the digital outputs aren't muted?
[18:42] <cppCzar> I can't figure out why my directories have a green color behind their names (when using ls)
[18:43] <km64> showing PCM as 100<>100
[18:43] <outch3> cppCzar : permissions related
[18:43] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[18:43] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[18:43] <daftykins> km64: it won't be PCM
[18:44] <daftykins> cppCzar: permissions and user
[18:44] <cppCzar> outch3: Where can I fix it?
[18:44] <daftykins> there's nothing to fix
[18:44] <daftykins> it's just a fact
[18:44] <cppCzar> How do I change the color?
[18:44] <bitbyte> hey guys on ubuntu server i was moving a folder from one drive to another
[18:44] <cppCzar> It's a horrible green
[18:44] <bitbyte> do you know how to recover info ?
[18:45] <genii> cppCzar: man dir_colors
[18:46] <Th3-Bl4ck-Sh4rk-> Bonjour !
[18:46] <Th3-Bl4ck-Sh4rk-> Francais ?
[18:46] <RU-XerYuS> Is it ok to restore themes from the /usr/share/themes directory that you have installed (MediterraneanDark for example) and on a fresh install, extract them to the /usr/share/themes directory without downloading & installing. Are there consequences to bypassing installation?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> !fr
[18:46] <km64> nothing is muted but the mics
[18:49] <BluesKaj> désolés should be "desoles" in the fr factoid , can whoever is responsible fix that please
[18:49] <RU-XerYuS> ...thump ...thump, is this thing on?
[18:50] <RU-XerYuS> ;)
[18:50] <Pici> BluesKaj: fixed
[18:51] <BluesKaj> Pici , cool
[18:52] <km64> in alsamixer the s/pdif shows as 00 green box and no volume bars
[18:55] <daftykins> km64: there may also be IEC958
[18:58] <josephholsten> is there a specific room to discuss upstart issues?
[18:59] <josephholsten> I'm trying to run an upstart service with a setuid from ldap
[18:59] <xXSe7enXx> hey
[18:59] <mayhew> josephholsten: #upstart
[19:00] <xXSe7enXx> is there a way to completely deactivate changes to the filesystem on Ubuntu
[19:00] <xXSe7enXx> ?
[19:00] <km64> daftykins: I see IEC958 in pulseaudio volume control configuration (Builtin audio digital stereo) but alsamixer only shows  S/PDIF, S/PDIF Default PCM, and S/PDIF 16 [Off]
[19:13] <km64> daftykins: further research leads me to think it may be kernel related> I will look into ugrade\downgrade of kernel - ty for your help
[19:15] <b0x> hmm
[19:16] <b0x> what are some handy apps to install for more info on the menu / status bar?
[19:16] <b0x> specifically, for web dev
[19:16] <b0x> i've seen some screencasts with network monitors and other info up there.. any suggestions?
[19:17] <Slyboots> Hey
[19:17] <mead0w> hello
[19:17] <Slyboots> Uh.. does anyone know how long Bonee++ shoudl take to run a benchmark on a SATA2 disk?
[19:17] <Slyboots> I tried it and its been running for over an hour now
[19:17] <Slyboots> without any sign of ending
[19:17] <mead0w> How big is the disk?
[19:17] <Slyboots> 2TB
[19:17] <mead0w> What avg. speed are you getting?
[19:18] <Slyboots> I've no idea, it just sits there outputting text once and a while about what its doing
[19:18] <Slyboots> But it ran for, actually close to 2 hours
[19:18] <mead0w> oh, right.
[19:18] <mead0w> Just let it run sir.
[19:18] <Slyboots> I've 9 disks to test lol
[19:18] <Slyboots> I need something faster than 2+ hours per disk
[19:20] <Agamemnus> hello
[19:20] <Agamemnus> I dunno where to ask this
[19:20] <Agamemnus> maybe here
[19:20] <blazemore> Hello Agamemnus, ask it
[19:20] <Agamemnus> I'm using oracle VM, and I managed to modify my disk from 4gb to 6gb fixed
[19:20] <Agamemnus> but it's not reflected in the ubuntu install
[19:20] <Agamemnus> dunno why
[19:20] <Agamemnus> still says 4gb when i start it
[19:20] <blazemore> Agamemnus: The partition holding Ubuntu is still 4gb
[19:21] <Agamemnus> do you know how i can change this?
[19:21] <blazemore> Agamemnus: Boot from the iso again into a live environment. Use the Gparted partitioning tool to expand your Ubuntu partition to fill the available space
[19:22] <Agamemnus> what a mess
[19:22] <blazemore> Not really it's very quick
[19:22] <blazemore> I could have done it by now
[19:22] <Agamemnus> i need to dl gparted
[19:22] <blazemore> No you don't
[19:23] <blazemore> DO you still have your Ubuntu iso you installed from?
[19:23] <Agamemnus> good think i found this
[19:23] <Agamemnus> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46814
[19:23] <Agamemnus> i'm using Oracle VM
[19:23] <Agamemnus> and ... the iso is of an old version anyway
[19:23] <b3> hi
[19:23] <blazemore> Doesn't matter
[19:23] <b3> did someone know why when i install dedicated driver nvidia, driver didnt recognize my monitor?
[19:23] <blazemore> Agamemnus: The version doesn't matter, they all have gparted on them :)
[19:23] <blazemore> Agamemnus: It's super quick, trust me
[19:24] <Agamemnus> ok i added the cd in
[19:24] <Agamemnus> now what?
[19:25] <blazemore> Well, do you remember when you installed it?
[19:25] <Agamemnus> a year ago
[19:25] <blazemore> Is it an iso you have, or a real CD?
[19:25] <Agamemnus> it's telling me i should try ubuntu or install it now
[19:25] <Agamemnus> i don't think this is right
[19:25] <Agamemnus> iso
[19:26] <cantoma> Agamemnus, sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:26] <blazemore> cantoma: You can't live-expand the partition
[19:26] <Agamemnus> i don't have any memory left
[19:26] <b3> did someone know why when i install dedicated driver nvidia, driver didnt recognize my monitor?
[19:26] <blazemore> !patience > b3
[19:27] <blazemore> OK Agamemnus to make your VM boot from the iso, follow the instructions in the top answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/64915/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-on-a-virtualbox-client-from-an-iso-image
[19:27] <cantoma> blazemore, i guess it needs to be unmouted
[19:27] <blazemore> cantoma: Exactly, hence why we boot from the LiveCD, and why the LiveCD comes with gparted already installed
[19:27] <cantoma> Agamemnus, read a bit about live cds and then gparted
[19:28] <cantoma> blazemore, yes i have done it many times
[19:28] <sinkensabe> Hi, how/where can I permenantly disable the ctrl-s command in terminal?
[19:28] <blazemore> sinkensabe: Look in the settings of the terminal for keyboard shortcuts
[19:29] <cantoma> blazemore, i was just wondering if it allows to modify the partition while mounted .. i guess it is a nice feature to add .. or at least it should do it in reboot mode
[19:29] <sinkensabe> blazemore: I have, but cant find settings for ctrl-s
[19:29] <Agamemnus> anyway, i'm in gparted
[19:29] <blazemore> Agamemnus: OK so do you see your Ubuntu partition?
[19:29] <sinkensabe> is there a .conf file for the terminal ?
[19:29] <blazemore> sinkensabe: What does ctrl-s do?
[19:29] <Agamemnus> unfortunately i can't resize it
[19:30] <Agamemnus> there was sda1 4 gigs
[19:30] <Agamemnus> sda5 1 gig
[19:30] <blazemore> Agamemnus: Why not? Is there any free space to the right?
[19:30] <Agamemnus> unallocated 1 gig
[19:30] <blazemore> Agamemnus: Can you post a screenshot?
[19:30] <Agamemnus> maximum space of sda1 = 4 gigs
[19:30] <cantoma> Agamemnus, use http://imagebin.org/
[19:31] <cantoma> Agamemnus, if you cant do it from the livecd use your smartphone
[19:31] <rsyring> resolve.conf is showing 127.0.1.1 as my nameserver, but my DHCP server is sending something else.  Why is resolve.conf not have what the DHCP server is sending?
[19:31] <sinkensabe> blazemore: it stops the terminal basically, ctrl-q will resume the session. The reasoon I need to do it is to map ctrl-s for save in Vim
[19:32] <Agamemnus> http://imagebin.org/267838
[19:32] <blazemore> sinkensabe: Seems like the shell is grabbing that ctrl-s not your terminal emulator. You should be OK to map it for save in vim, have you tried it?
[19:32] <Agamemnus> i deleted sda5
[19:33] <blazemore> lol Agamemnus move that window! it's in the way of what I need to see
[19:33] <sinkensabe> blazemore: yeah I did but did not work, I just assumed that was the problem. I will try to see if it can be somethings else then. cheers
[19:33] <blazemore> sinkensabe: I may be wrong, so don't disregard any others' advice on the assumption that mine is correct
[19:33] <Agamemnus> http://imagebin.org/267839
[19:34] <blazemore> Agamemnus: Delete /dev/sda2 the extended partition
[19:34] <OerHeks> rsyring, do not edit resolve.conf, see this answer and howto on http://askubuntu.com/a/221955
[19:34] <Agamemnus> maybe i need to change the file system
[19:34] <blazemore> Agamemnus: No you need to delete that empty extended partition
[19:34] <blazemore> Agamemnus: Then you can resize it into the space - but you will have no swap so watch out
[19:34] <Agamemnus> insane
[19:35] <Agamemnus> don't need
[19:35] <Agamemnus> thanks
[19:35] <rsyring> OerHeks: well...thats the opposite of what I want.  I actually want resolve.conf to reflect the nameserver DHCP is returning.
[19:35] <pvl1> what ubuntu fits on a cd
[19:35] <blazemore> No problem
[19:35] <sinkensabe> blazemore: Yeah true, I did find out how to disable it temporarily and it did not work anyway so the problem is somewhere else
[19:35] <rsyring> OerHeks: I could override, but why not just take it form DHCP?
[19:35] <cantoma> Agamemnus, only 6GB :o
[19:35] <cantoma> Agamemnus, my smartphone has more than that
[19:35] <OerHeks> rsyring, it will get updated with the correct numbers, when you follow the right steps
[19:36] <blazemore> pvl1: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (Precice Pangolin) has installation images which fit on a standard CD-R http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[19:36] <Agamemnus> i'm running it on my SSD
[19:36] <rsyring> OerHeks: I don't want to hard-code the DNS server in /etc/network/interfaces...I want DHCP to set it
[19:36] <Agamemnus> which I recently upgraded
[19:36] <Agamemnus> but still
[19:36] <Agamemnus> 256 gigs
[19:36] <rsyring> OerHeks: If I follow the answer you gave, i'm just hardcoding it
[19:36] <Slyboots> so are there any good ubuntu tools for testking diskIO that dont take.. several hours to run ?
[19:36] <cantoma> Agamemnus, have you delete second partition?
[19:37] <Agamemnus> yeah
[19:37] <Left_Turn> hey gparted isn't allowing me to resize my hard drive by adding unallocated memory to it... any way around this
[19:37] <blazemore> Left_Turn: Can you take a screenshot of your gparted?
[19:37] <Agamemnus> we just talked about this!
[19:37] <Agamemnus> hehe
[19:37] <blazemore> Agamemnus: You get that a lot in here
[19:37] <Left_Turn> 1 sec blazemore
[19:38] <Agamemnus> you can only reallocate the second one, see
[19:38] <blazemore> Agamemnus: You get to answer the same question twice in a row, and the second time is always way easier. I call it carrying
[19:38] <Agamemnus> i see
[19:38] <Agamemnus> thanks :-)
[19:38] <Left_Turn> blazemore at this moment it won't be the correct shot as my drive is mounted.. i would have to get offline etc etc.. want me to do that?
[19:39] <blazemore> Left_Turn: It's OK if it's mounted
[19:39] <Left_Turn> oh ok then.. 1 sec
[19:40] <blazemore> Left_Turn: I only need to see it, then I will give you instructions you can reboot and follow
[19:40] <Agamemnus> another thing.. i tried upgrading and i didn't have enough space
[19:40] <Left_Turn> oh ok thanks blazemore .. im starting it up now
[19:40] <Agamemnus> and now my package system is broken.
[19:40] <Agamemnus> it told me to run..
[19:41] <Agamemnus> apt-get install -f
[19:41] <blazemore> Agamemnus: That's OK, you will have enough space now. You should run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:41] <Agamemnus> but i got permission denied
[19:41] <Agamemnus> SUDO
[19:41] <Agamemnus> of course
[19:41] <genii> Agamemnus: Probably want to do instead: sudo apt-get clean   ...before that
[19:41] <Agamemnus> nooooo
[19:41] <Agamemnus> too late
[19:41] <blazemore> It's OK
[19:41] <trism> sinkensabe: did you check out: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Map_Ctrl-S_to_save_current_or_new_files
[19:41] <blazemore> Nothing bad will happen
[19:44] <BigFist> DJones: yeah something exactly like this
[19:56] <_Trullo> idiot guide to get sound over hdmi in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:57] <auronandace> _Trullo: 10.04 is only supported on the server
[19:57] <oleg> ?
[19:58] <Left_Turn> hey blazemore still there? sorry got sidetracked
[19:58] <_Trullo> I know, don't care, just need sound to work..
[20:00] <linuxliam> evening
[20:02] <tk_> hello!
[20:02] <reisio> hello to you!
[20:02] <tk_> hello!
[20:04] <tk_> i am looking for some way to run a windows game on ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:04] <sinkensabe> trism: thanks i solved it, coul disable ctrl-s in terminal by adding some lines in home/.bashrc
[20:04] <tk_> playonlinux, does it work well?
[20:04] <oleg> q
[20:05] <reisio> tk_: sometimes, which game?
[20:05] <DJones> tk_: Wine may help you get it running, but I wouldn't rely too much on it.  If you join ##winehq they're normally best placed to give advice on whether something will run
[20:05] <DJones> !wine | tk_
[20:05] <dzoni> hello
[20:06] <reisio> dzoni: hi
[20:06] <dzoni> yesterday i installed ubuntu Server on my computer but on startup it says could not read..
[20:06] <reisio> dzoni: did it ever startup as expected?
[20:07] <dzoni> i dont understand ? i just installed and it say reboot to continue, i discard my disk and it says could not read..
[20:08] <lucian> dzoni just format it complete ly
[20:09] <lucian> means  your disk to raw formatting
[20:09] <dzoni> what should i do ?
[20:09] <lucian> you can recover data after wards
[20:09] <superboot> Hi all. I've setup my remote system to act as a pulseaudio server (with paprefs). How can I tell the client machine to use it? Looks like padevchooser is not in the repos anymore.
[20:09] <lucian> means just format it means of raw formatting
[20:10] <dzoni> can i repair it ?
[20:10] <Agamemnus> ok, so now I remember why i held off on upgrading
[20:10] <lucian> ya do you have external hardisk
[20:10] <Agamemnus> it crashes my program... on a mysql call.
[20:10] <lucian> or things like that
[20:11] <Agamemnus> does anyone know how I can get the latest mysql client stuff?
[20:11] <reisio> Agamemnus: mariadb?
[20:11] <obert> thanks people. i will find a solution to my problem. thanks.
[20:11] <lucian> if  make a backup of your data using live distro
[20:11] <Agamemnus> neva mind i think i got it
[20:12] <Agamemnus> hi reisio, mariadb?
[20:12] <pvl1> i broke a grub on a microsd. can i fix it if i chroot in a virtual machine
[20:12] <lucian> dzoni can you hear me
[20:12] <dzoni> yes
[20:12] <lucian> did you have any external hard disk
[20:13] <lucian> or do you have backup of ur machine data
[20:13] <dzoni> you mean any other /
[20:13] <_Trullo> ok, speakertest works
[20:13] <dzoni> i have but its not connected
[20:13] <lucian> dzoni can we have private chat
[20:13] <dzoni> yes
[20:13] <lucian> how can i do that
[20:14] <salimabu> check out my youtube channel and videos http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLbLv8Aozc1OX-va_BmkebQ
[20:19] <streulma> Ubuntu is so nice, but I can't work with it > because of Silverlight didn't works for my app. :( Running Linux on a Macbook is always a crap I think...
[20:20] <nowayride> streulma: which app
[20:20] <streulma> nowayride: www.tvoveral.be from my ISP
[20:21] <nowayride> Does it use Silverlight's DRS? Ubuntu has mono.
[20:21] <nowayride> Wait.. moonlight
[20:22] <auronandace> isn't moonlight abandoned?
[20:22] <Johnny_Linux> whats making my flash run 90 mph
[20:22] <streulma> yes moonlight didn't works anymore
[20:22] <nowayride> :\ I wish everything would move away from Silverlight and flash
[20:24] <Johnny_Linux> flash runs too fast ubuntu
[20:27] <Jordan_U> !details | pvl1
[20:29] <pvl1> Jordan_U: i have lubuntu installed on a microsd. i was editing the grub options for it to allow me to select recovery (thats another story). after running update-grub2, it only boots into memtest. so im on windows atm (yell at me later), im running an ubuntu VM, in which i have this microsd mounted. if i chroot into it, mounting /dev, /proc, and /sys, will it fix the problem or will it configure grub to the
[20:29] <pvl1> vm
[20:29] <pvl1> sorry
[20:32] <henningvis> After upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 I have no sound on my Dell 1749 Studio . I dualboot and sound is working fine on windows .. I am not computer likterate but know a little .. who can help me with commands I can just paste in the terminal ?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> pvl1: Running update-grub from a chroot in a VM is fine, but what options did you actually change to get into this situation?
[20:36] <Agamemnus> how do I get a specific mysql client>
[20:37] <Agamemnus> I figure my error is cause my bi file (header) doesn't match
[20:37] <pvl1> Jordan_U: i changed the grub timout
[20:37] <Agamemnus> but that's too incomprehensible to change
[20:37] <Agamemnus> i need eg..
[20:37] <Agamemnus> 4.0.17...
[20:38] <henningvis> Am I in the wrong room?
[20:38] <amcsi> hi
[20:38] <henningvis> hi
[20:38] <amcsi> how do I know if memtest86 has tested my entire ram at least once? what does it write out?
[20:42] <\u03b5> Hello, I am running 12.04 LTS Server in a virtualised environment. Unfortunately I cannot use hwclock -w, so I am stuck with the host machine's time, which is roughly 20 minutes into the future. The issue is, that whenever the system boots, ntpd kicks in to set the clock right, and immediately after that network goes down; is there anything I can do?
[20:43] <bekks> \u03b5: Set the clock of the host correctly.
[20:43] <\u03b5> I still have access to the server though a hypervisor-provided tty-like access
[20:43] <\u03b5> bekks: I do not have that kind of access
[20:43] <bekks> \u03b5: Then you have to ask your administrator to do so.
[20:45] <\u03b5> will this glitch not happen if the time is off by a smaller delta?
[20:45] <pvl1> Jordan_U: is there an option for Default selection to run. i definetly set something to 3 seconds, and memtest would be the third option wouldnt it
[20:46] <bekks> \u03b5: I guess it will happen again then, since it looks like the host shuts off network access due to anomalies (setting the time) in the guest.
[20:47] <\u03b5> you think this is intended?
[20:47] <\u03b5> Xen is the hypervisor, although I do not know how it is configured
[20:50] <Jordan_U> pvl1: GRUB_DEFAULT. Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[20:54] <matthias_> hey i've got a question
[20:55] <matthias_> i want to do a bash script with curl, that logins into a website and clicks on a few links and then downloads a file
[20:58] <pvl1> Jordan_U: i changed default to 3 for sure thanks
[20:58] <matthias_> i want to do a bash script with curl, that logins into a website and clicks on a few links and then downloads a file
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> so? ;)
[20:59] <Slart> matthias_: if it's a simple site it shouldn't be a problem.. you might have to deal with cookies, session id's and such depending on how the site is designed
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> it can range from trival to very complex. to impossible. ;)
[21:00] <BillyBag2> hi
[21:00] <matthias_> Slart: i can post you the link of the site and maybe you can help me?
[21:00] <Slart> matthias_: I've done something similar myself but I used python.. bash might present... different challenges
[21:00] <Slart> matthias_: sure
[21:01] <matthias_> Slart: here is the site. it's timetable for my school and i hate it typing everytime the login... https://klio.webuntis.com/WebUntis/?school=graf-stauffenb
[21:02] <matthias_> Slart: i've found out that the password is in j_password and the username is in j_username
[21:02] <BillyBag2> Hi can I get some help on here for connecting to a mac desktop from ubuntu?
[21:02] <Romz> hi there, with ubuntu server 13.04, is there a way to select what packages will be installed (booting up the iso in vmware)?
[21:02] <Slart> matthias_: mm.. I'm looking at the source code at the moment
[21:02] <matthias_> Romz: do expert installation
[21:03] <compdoc> Romz, you can if you install the server version, and then add a desktop if required
[21:03] <matthias_> Slart: i've tested a few examples and nothing worked
[21:03] <makerbrakr> hi, has anyone else been having trouble with chromium/google-chrome not loading pageS?
[21:04] <Romz> matthias_: right on, yesterday i tried with the desktop version but i didn't see any option for expert mode or so, i was wondering if it was the same with the server version or if i completely missed it on the desktop one
[21:04] <makerbrakr> I will nav to a URL, and the page will come up white
[21:04] <BillyBag2> I can connect to the Mac using a few VNC clients. However I see some sort of startup screen which I appear to have no control over.
[21:04] <makerbrakr> if I open up dev tools though, it finishes loading
[21:05] <Slart> matthias_: it's using some kind of ajax form to do the actual login
[21:05] <matthias_> Romz: sry i tought of debian installation sry
[21:05] <matthias_> Slart: so is it possible to login via bash/python script?
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> BillyBag2:  i imagine the vnc desktop would be controlled by the vncserver on the mac end. not the ubuntu client
[21:06] <Slart> matthias_: everything is possible.. it's just a matter of more or less work =)
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> BillyBag2:  you should check the docs/support for whatever vnc server you are using on the mac.
[21:07] <matthias_> Slart: the problem is you can download the timetable as a .isc file and i wrote a programm that automaticly parses the .isc file and makes a nice better .pdf file. the parser works fine but now i want to make the file donwload automaticly
[21:07] <matthias_> Slart: You know what i mean?
[21:08] <BillyBag2> Ta Dr_Willis I'm looking at windows to mac news groups and they see the same issue. I will see what they did to fix it.
[21:08] <djapo> how do if figure out the font map for a font? the font is ter-116n
[21:09] <matthias_> Slart: Can you help me with that script? please??
[21:09] <Slart> matthias_: yes, I understand.. I'm just wondering if it might be worth the trouble to decipher the code from the webpage.. or if it might be easier to just script the browser to do the work
[21:10] <Slart> matthias_: what browser do you use?
[21:10] <matthias_> Slart: later i want to run it on an vServer with no graphical user interface. would the browser scripting be possible?
[21:10] <matthias_> i use firefox, but as said i want to run it on the vserver
[21:11] <matthias_> Slart: use firefox, but as said i want to run it on the vserver
[21:11] <ulrichard> Hi, I did something silly to my server today. Instead of fixing the permission on /etc/  I set it to 744. Now a lot of stuff stopped working. Su and sudo don't work, and logging in as root also doesn't work. So I plugged the harddisk into my desktop computer. I can mount the data partition but not the system partition. Any ideas or advice?
[21:11] <Slart> matthias_: let's see if we can get firefox to do the login thing for us.. you might get away with running firefox in some kind of non-gui way..
[21:12] <matthias_> Slart: ok if it is possible.
[21:13] <Jordan_U> ulrichard: How are you trying to mount the partition and what happens when you try?
[21:13] <Slart> matthias_: do you have some time? this will not be done in a minute or two..
[21:13] <\u03b5> Well scratch that, the network goes down regardless of if ntpd is running or not
[21:13] <matthias_> Slart: yes 30-45min is that enough?
[21:14] <Slart> matthias_: perhaps.. if we're lucky =)
[21:15] <matthias_> Slart: maybe we can switch the channel? #curl_login
[21:16] <ghost_> hi
[21:16] <\u03b5> syslog and dmesg fail to provide any relevant info, anything else to check before escalating?
[21:17] <ulrichard> Jordan_U: parted lists the boot partition as ext2 and the data partition as ext4. Appart from that it lists an extended and a logical partition. I wonder if the ext dir is contained in initrd.img-3.8.0-27-generic of the boot partition, which has a change date of about when I did the modification.
[21:17] <histo> ulrichard: are you using encryption?
[21:18] <histo> ulrichard: and what happens when you try to mount the data partition?
[21:18] <AnalMaster> Histo..let me see ur anus bitch
[21:18] <ulrichard> the boot and data partition mount just fine, but they don't contain what I'm looking for.
[21:19] <AnalMaster> Ulrichard mount using ro option nugger
[21:19] <Jordan_U> ulrichard: You answered neither of my questions.
[21:19] <ulrichard> from looking at the size of the partition, it's probably in sdc5 which is listed as lvm2 pv
[21:19] <AnalMaster> Marcin i faked ur mather
[21:19] <histo> !ops | AnalMaster
[21:19] <AnalMaster> Drr
[21:20] <histo> ulrichard: which distro are you running now on your desktop to try and mount these?
[21:22] <ulrichard> Both are running ubuntu 12.04
[21:22] <ulrichard> Both are running ubuntu 13.04, sorry
[21:23] <histo> ulrichard: lsmod | grep dm-mod
[21:23] <ulrichard> the ext2 and ext4 I can mount with nautilus or the mount command, but if I try to mount sdc5 it asks for a filesystem type.
[21:24] <Jordan_U> ulrichard: That's because it's an LVM physical volume.
[21:24] <ulrichard> dm-mod  is not loaded. What is it?
[21:24] <histo> ulrichard: it's needed for mounting lvm
[21:25] <Romz> regarding my question to do a custom install of ubuntu server 13.04, i found my answer here http://superuser.com/questions/495295/is-there-any-way-to-customize-vmwares-easy-install-of-ubuntu
[21:25] <histo> ulrichard:sudo apt-get install lvm2 && sudo modprobe dm-mod
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ulrichard: sudo pvscan && sudo vgscan && vgchange -a y && sudo blkid
[21:26] <Agamemnus> how do I get a static version of mysql?
[21:26] <Agamemnus> mysql client*
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Agamemnus: Why do you want a static mysql client binary?
[21:27] <Agamemnus> i need compiled code because i can't install programs on my server
[21:28] <anayou> hi
[21:29] <anayou> hello guys
[21:29] <histo> hello
[21:29] <ulrichard> thanks guys, mounted the partition and corrected the permissions. Now I 'll put the harddisk back into the server.
[21:29] <Deformative> Hi, I am running ubuntu 13.04 and recently updated (like 20 minutes ago), but now the machine will no longer boot.  The error is something like "/scripts/init-bottom initramfs contents directory not empty; kernel panic: not syncing"
[21:30] <Deformative> Is anyone else seeing this?
[21:30] <Deformative> Any advice on how to fix it?
[21:31] <wootehfoot> How do I overclock my 60Hz refresh rate to 75Hz?
[21:31] <daftykins> Deformative: hold shift on startup to get the GRUB boot menu, then try picking an older kernel
[21:31] <anayou> can i install softwaer  .exe
[21:31] <genii> anayou: No.
[21:31] <anayou> in ubuntu 13.04
[21:31] <histo> anayou: what are you trying to install?
[21:31] <daftykins> wootehfoot: there is no reason to do be doing that
[21:31] <Deformative> daftykins, The boot menu comes up and doesn't display any old kernels.
[21:31] <anayou> like idm
[21:32] <histo> anayou: what is idm?
[21:32] <daftykins> Deformative: odd, do you manually remove them after upgrades?
[21:32] <wootehfoot> daftykins, i know all the implications of doing it, how do I do it
[21:32] <Deformative> daftykins, No.
[21:32] <anayou> internet download manger
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Deformative: They're in the "Advanced Options" submenu.
[21:32] <histo> anayou: I would go to alaternativeto.net and search for linux alternatives or search the software center.
[21:32] <Deformative> Jordan_U, I went here and there was only one kernel listed twice.  One of the listings said (recovery mode) but it had the same panic.
[21:33] <Agamemnus> i think i need the static version of mysql 4.1.
[21:33] <Agamemnus> but i can't figure out how to install it.
[21:33] <Agamemnus> (client)
[21:33] <anayou> no in softwaer center
[21:33] <wootehfoot> Rephrase: How do I force the display refresh rate to something higher than 60Hz?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> wootehfoot: What is your end goal?
[21:33] <wootehfoot> jordan, it's a uni experiment
[21:34] <histo> wootehfoot: which video card?
[21:34] <wootehfoot> hd4000
[21:34] <wootehfoot> will xset be enough for this, or are there more issues
[21:34] <anayou> bit the wine softwaer is get the  windows xp in ubuntu
[21:34] <histo> wootehfoot: I don't know why you would want to but you could define a new mode with xrandr and break your stuff
[21:34] <genii> anayou: .exe files are Windows executable files. You can't run/install them in linux. Some Windows software works under the program called WINE, but usually badly.
[21:35] <wootehfoot> histo, thanks will try that nopw
[21:35] <histo> anayou: yes but why would you want to use that particular program when there are open source alternatives
[21:35] <ulrichard> sudo and everything else works again on the server. Thanks again.
[21:36] <Deformative> Anyone?  Please... This is a serious problem for me.  It brought down my entire 300 node cluster...
[21:36] <anayou> same softwaer is work in wine !!
[21:36] <Pinkamen1_D> My ubuntu server installation stop booting and just shows the blinking white cursor, I have booted in with the liveDVD, is there a tool I can use to fix this?
[21:37] <daftykins> Pinkamen1_D: wouldn't hurt to fsck the disk
[21:37] <histo> !nomodeset | Pinkamen1_D
[21:37] <arthurdent> \I'm having trouble with dconf, I copied .config/dconf/user from one user to another, but gsettings is still showing different settings, is there some command I need to run?
[21:38] <Pinkamen1_D> I have used nomodeset in the past, but this will not show a menu upon holding shift
[21:38] <histo> arthurdent: .cache/dconf?
[21:39] <daftykins> Pinkamen1_D: fsck? hard disk SMART data?
[21:41] <Pinkamen1_D> fsck shows "0.1% non-contiguous, but other then that it does not show any "errors"
[21:41] <daftykins> Pinkamen1_D: have you chroot'd in and had a poke around?
[21:41] <bekks> Pinkamen1_D: fsck -f forces an fsck, while fsck just examines the superblock.
[21:41] <anayou> guys can i recover my files in sd card after formatting
[21:42] <Deformative> daftykins, Jordan_U, are you still there?
[21:42] <daftykins> yep, still haunting the place
[21:42] <daftykins> Deformative: also, 300 node cluster? you're kidding right?
[21:42] <Deformative> No.
[21:42] <anayou> ?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Deformative: As a quick test to see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/613273 might be related, can your try running this: grep "/sbin/udevadm settle" /path/to/initrd
[21:43] <daftykins> with 13.04? D:
[21:43] <Deformative> Jordan_U, With what?  A livecd? I can't boot.
[21:43] <Deformative> daftykins, Yes.
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Deformative: Yes, from a LiveCD would work.
[21:44] <Left_Turn> anyone know why gparted won't let me resize my drive to merge with an unallocated one?
[21:44] <anayou> guys can i recover my files in sd card after formatting
[21:44] <Deformative> daftykins, I manage a cluster at my university and I put ubuntu on it because I was stupid enough to think it would be relatively stable.
[21:44] <daftykins> anayou: depends if it was a full format or not
[21:44] <Jordan_U> anayou: How did you "format" the card?
[21:44] <Deformative> So now all the users are bitching because the thing is down.
[21:45] <daftykins> Deformative: picking an LTS release would probably have been a good move, but i appreciate hindsight is not helpful now so i shall hush and let Jordan_U help
[21:45] <anayou> i format my sd card with phone
[21:45] <Left_Turn> is there a way to set a shortcut to my paths.. variables don't work
[21:45] <Deformative> daftykins, Isn't 13.04 an LTS?
[21:45] <daftykins> Deformative: no, dead in January
[21:46] <Deformative> daftykins, Fuck.  I thought that all the .04 were LTS.
[21:46] <anayou> full format
[21:46] <daftykins> Deformative: sadly this one broke with that tradition :(
[21:46] <genii> Deformative: Please keep the foul language down, supposed to be a family-friendly channel
[21:47] <Pinkamen1_D> I think I can see the problem with fdisk, though I have no idea how it could have happened
[21:47] <genii> Deformative: Every second .04 is LTS
[21:47] <wootehfoot> histo, thanks, generated a few modelines and tested 75 and 85Hz, doesn't work at 1920x1080 due to bandwidth issues - works good otherwise - cable clk is 250Mhz+ at 85Hz
[21:48] <Pinkamen1_D> the main hard drive has three partitions, the main one looks fine, but the two others seem to be on the same end block and almost the same start block according to fdisk
[21:48] <Jordan_U> genii: Deformative: So far. The way to be sure that a version is LTS is that it has "LTS" at the end of the version.
[21:48] <daftykins> anayou: try some data recovery programs for FAT, unfortunately i don't know any. if it was a full format on the phone that wrote over the whole card, it'll be toast - but you might as well try
[21:48] <Deformative> Jordan_U, Sigh. Ok.  Let me login from my laptop so I can walk down to the pool room and put in a livecd.
[21:48] <Deformative> Brb.
[21:48] <daftykins> Deformative: what prevents you from booting a liveCD/USB/etc ?
[21:48] <Deformative> daftykins, Nothing, I was asking if that is what I needed to do.
[21:48] <Deformative> So now I am on my way to the cluster room.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> anayou: You can try to recover some files with photorec, but I wouldn't hold out too much hope.
[21:49] <Pinkamen1_D> any command line tool which could fix these overlapping partitions?
[21:49] <Deformative-mobi> Jordan_U: Ok, going to go try the livecd now.
[21:49] <Martinius> hi rob
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Pinkamen1_D: fixparts
[21:50] <anayou> ok how can do this photorec
[21:51] <arthurdent> histo: nope, that doesn't seem to be it :/ hmm this is rather perplexing
[21:51] <anayou> jordan_U
[21:51] <Jordan_U> anayou: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[21:52] <anayou> ok i do this
[21:52] <arthurdent> histo: in dconf-editor its org.mate.desktop.background and in gsettings it's org.mate.background o_o
[21:52] <anayou> now
[21:52] <anayou> good bye jordan  & thanks
[21:53] <Jordan_U> anayou: You're welcome.
[21:53] <arthurdent> i am sure this is due to some misunderstanding i have about dconf/gconf
[21:54] <us0r> hey guys, what would you suggest for a GUI to configure/manage apache on ubuntu?
[21:54] <jrib> us0r: none
[21:54] <arthurdent> vim
[21:55] <nalkri> Hi, what happens after Zany Zebra?
[21:55] <jrib> nalkri: unicode
[21:55] <us0r> arthurdent: thanks
[21:55] <Deformative-mobi> Jordan_U: Can you re-link that fo rme?
[21:55] <jrib> nalkri: j/k I don't know (my guess is they either start over or do (A... B...)
[21:56] <IdleOne> nalkri: not really a support question but who knows if we will even get there, more in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:58] <cheshirelulcat> Hey, can anyone help me with partition ids and fdisk?
[21:59] <daftykins> cheshirelulcat: just ask in detail
[21:59] <cheshirelulcat> Yeah, any way to ensure my NTFS partition doesn't show up when I do fdisk -l
[21:59] <arthurdent> not if you still want to be able to use your NTFS partition
[21:59] <daftykins> why do you want to hide it?
[22:00] <cheshirelulcat> Let's go with personal reasons
[22:00] <cheshirelulcat> Not security.
[22:00] <cheshirelulcat> I've already marked it as hidden
[22:00] <arthurdent> doesn't want xer SO to know xe also uses windows
[22:00] <cheshirelulcat> And no automount
[22:01] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: how much do you care about being able to access your NTFS partition easily? you can hide it with gparted
[22:01] <cheshirelulcat> Not much.
[22:01] <daftykins> cheshirelulcat: unless you explain the circumstance it makes no sense to me
[22:01] <cheshirelulcat> Just...
[22:01] <arthurdent> just hide it with gparted then. you'll have to unhide it in order to boot into it from grub or whatever
[22:01] <cheshirelulcat> Just don't worry about the circumstances.
[22:02] <cheshirelulcat> No problem
[22:02] <cheshirelulcat> I did hide it with Gparted, still shows up on fdisk
[22:02] <arthurdent> just right click the drive in gparted > manage flags > [x] hidden
[22:02] <arthurdent> maybe you need to reboot? idk
[22:02] <cheshirelulcat> Already have
[22:02] <cheshirelulcat> Would removing the boot flag do it?
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> hideing a partion hides it from fdisk? makes me wonder how fdisk would unhide it then.
[22:03] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: No. We can't help you unless you actually explain your end goal.
[22:03] <arthurdent> I don't know that it does for a fact, I guess I just assumed.
[22:03] <cheshirelulcat> Yeah, here's my end goal.
[22:03] <cheshirelulcat> If I type in fdisk -l
[22:03] <cheshirelulcat> sda1 doesn't show up.
[22:03] <cheshirelulcat> That's it.
[22:03] <daftykins> not going to happen
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> cheshirelulcat:  disable it in the bios.
[22:03] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: Delete the partition then.
[22:03] <cheshirelulcat> Aw god
[22:03] <cheshirelulcat> No other way?
[22:03] <arthurdent> buy a portable harddrive and a safe
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> why would you think theres some other way? the PC is reporting the drives its seeing
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> actually the BIOS is reporting it.
[22:04] <cheshirelulcat> Can I change the partition id?
[22:04] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: Also, not having something show up in fdisk -l doesn't really sound like an end goal to me.
[22:04] <cheshirelulcat> That's an end goal for me.
[22:04] <arthurdent> write a bash script that overrides fdisk and doesn't print lines containing sda1
[22:04] <cheshirelulcat> :\
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> cheshirelulcat:  change it to what?   you can change the filesystem. but whats the point
[22:04] <cheshirelulcat> I was thinking changing the partition id
[22:04] <daftykins> it's what we call a fools errand.
[22:04] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: Why do you not want the partition to show up in fdisk -l? Does the output look prettier without it?
[22:04] <daftykins> i think you've even come in here and asked this before
[22:04] <daftykins> because i remember this lunacy
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> I haven't been here befory.
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> *Before.
[22:05] <daftykins> totally had this question asked before :)
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> if you dont want normal user level people mounting the thing. theres ways to do that.
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> Yeah, it requires a root to activate
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> I know that.
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> Like, when I have an fdisk -l output
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> And it says NTFS
[22:05] <cheshirelulcat> Can I modify the id in order for it to report ext3?
[22:06] <cheshirelulcat> Or not report it at all?
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> cheshirelulcat:  guess you could in gparted, or fdisk.   and also you may accidently delete all your data
[22:06] <cheshirelulcat> well shit
[22:06] <Pinkamen1_D> so I am using fixparts because my server stopped booting
[22:06] <IdleOne> !language
[22:06] <cheshirelulcat> Sorry.
[22:06] <cheshirelulcat> >.>
[22:06] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: rename the fdisk binary to "fdisk.real" and in its place make a script containing "fdisk.real $@ | grep -v sda1".
[22:06] <Pinkamen1_D> I did not actually give it any commands other then viewing the partitions
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  going to point out that parted, and cfdisk, can also see it. ;)
[22:07] <daftykins> thing is who with any brain isn't going to spot #1 missing? you'd have to at least masquerade it as another Linux one instead of NTFS.
[22:07] <cheshirelulcat> Yeah
[22:07] <Pinkamen1_D> when I ask to save and exit, it says "THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS". This sounds kind of iffy, I dont want data baing lost
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: cheshirelulcat's end goal was just to have it not show up in fdisk -l.
[22:08] <cheshirelulcat> I've got 2, 3, and 4 missing right now
[22:08] <Pinkamen1_D> has anyone actually used fixpart?
[22:08] <cheshirelulcat> No idea why, let's just leave it at that
[22:08] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: http://pastie.org/private/vjkxctinfe7ayhaj4flw
[22:08] <Jordan_U> Pinkamen1_D: You should always have backups of important data.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> data worth keeping.. is data worth backing up.
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[22:09] <Agamemnus> does anyone know how i can download the static version of mysql 4.1?
[22:09] <cheshirelulcat> I'll try it out, see if it works.
[22:09] <arthurdent> you'll have to re-source your profile or log out and back in
[22:09] <Pinkamen1_D> well its not the data I am worried about, its all of the configuration I  have done to get it to work how i like
[22:09] <arthurdent> "source /etc/profile"
[22:09] <bekks> Agamemnus: That version is pretty old. And why do you need a static version?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> arthurdent: You'd need to use the absolute path, /usr/sbin/fdisk, in your script then (otherwise you'll get an infinite loop).
[22:10] <arthurdent> Jordan_U: derp
[22:10] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: change 'fdisk -l' to '/usr/bin/fdisk "$@"' in that script
[22:10] <arthurdent> er no quotes around the $@ actually
[22:11] <Jordan_U> arthurdent: Quotes are correct in that case, $@ is a special variable.
[22:11] <arthurdent> Jordan_U: are you sure? you don't want all the flags to be in one token
[22:12] <Agamemnus> bekks: because everything else crashes.
[22:12] <bekks> Agamemnus: Then you should fix the cause of those crashes.
[22:12] <Agamemnus> bekks: it is mysql.
[22:12] <bekks> Agamemnus: I strongly doubt that.
[22:13] <Jordan_U> arthurdent: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#for_arg_in_.24.2A
[22:13] <Agamemnus> it crashes when I run mysql_init.
[22:13] <arthurdent> ok
[22:13] <bekks> Agamemnus: What exactly happens?
[22:13] <arthurdent> Jordan_U: weird
[22:13] <cheshirelulcat> Arthur, I don't have an fdbin dir
[22:13] <cheshirelulcat> Ought I make one?
[22:14] <arthurdent> yes
[22:14] <cheshirelulcat> What do I place in PATH
[22:14] <arthurdent> http://pastie.org/8243538 i updated the script the way it should be
[22:14] <Agamemnus> one moment
[22:14] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: just add that line somewhere in /etc/profile
[22:14] <arthurdent> then do "source /etc/profile"
[22:14] <cheshirelulcat> aight
[22:15] <Jordan_U> arthurdent: It makes sense, otherwise there would be no way to pass on parameters when a script is called like this: myscript "argument one" "argument two" 3 four "High five!"
[22:15] <Agamemnus> abnormal termination signal.
[22:16] <PeachSoda> oh no!
[22:16] <cheshirelulcat> before the fi?
[22:16] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: at the very top or very bottom
[22:16] <Agamemnus> bekks: abnormal termination signal.
[22:16] <bekks> Agamemnus: then pastebin "strace mysql_init" - beware, it will cause a lot of output.
[22:16] <Agamemnus> i'm not sure how i'm supposed to do that.
[22:17] <Agamemnus> mysql_init is an internal function.
[22:17] <Agamemnus> of the mysql library
[22:17] <cheshirelulcat> It's still showing up
[22:17] <bekks> Agamemnus: Then what exactly are you doing? :)
[22:17] <Agamemnus> running that function.
[22:17] <bekks> Agamemnus: How?
[22:17] <Agamemnus> through some code that is compiled
[22:17] <bekks> Agamemnus: Are we supposed to guess that? :)
[22:17] <Agamemnus> statically
[22:17] <StarshipTravelle> sorry for my english, but how i can joint channel #ubuntu-ru
[22:17] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: Did you make /fdbin/fdisk executable?
[22:17] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: is it actually called /dev/sda1?
[22:18] <cheshirelulcat> Yeah, it's /dev/sda1
[22:18] <Agamemnus> via a header that is designed for mysql 4.0.17
[22:18] <arthurdent> StarshipTravelle: /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:18] <cheshirelulcat> No, didn't make it executable
[22:18] <Agamemnus> bekks: Do you see the problem there?
[22:18] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: sorry, you need to chmod +x the /fdbin/fdisk file
[22:18] <bekks> Agamemnus: uhm, then you should update that application.
[22:18] <StarshipTravelle> arthurdent:  were i can write this?
[22:18] <Agamemnus> I have no way to update the header.
[22:18] <arthurdent> StarshipTravelle: in the chat
[22:18] <cheshirelulcat> np
[22:18] <Agamemnus> it actually runs fine if I don't statically link it.
[22:18] <StarshipTravelle> arthurdent: ok - thanks:)
[22:19] <bekks> Agamemnus: Then dont link it statically.
[22:19] <Agamemnus> But I need to because I can't install things on my server
[22:19] <cheshirelulcat> shiit
[22:19] <cheshirelulcat> now it says no such file or directory
[22:19] <Agamemnus> like libmysqlclient.so and libtinfo.so
[22:19] <bekks> Agamemnus: So which application is it? What does it do?
[22:19] <Flannel> cheshirelulcat: please mind the language, thanks.
[22:19] <cheshirelulcat> Sorry
[22:19] <Agamemnus> it doesn't matter.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: BTW, please do not come in here in 5 months after forgetting you've done this and ask why fdisk isn't working properly as this will utterly confuse anyone that tried to figure out what's happening.
[22:19] <Agamemnus> i'm up the creek for now
[22:19] <tina> Where am I?
[22:19] <cheshirelulcat> I won't lol
[22:19] <cheshirelulcat> It
[22:19] <bekks> Agamemnus: Without providing information, I cant help you.
[22:19] <cheshirelulcat> It's a one-time thing
[22:20] <StarshipTravelle> sorry, but it says: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[22:20] <StarshipTravelle> cheshirelulcat: sorry, but it says: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[22:20] <ZIPY> StarshipTravelle: you need to have an account /msg q hello
[22:20] <Agamemnus> i told you everything.
[22:20] <Agamemnus> all right, you want to know what it does.
[22:20] <Agamemnus> it accesses a mysql server
[22:20] <Agamemnus> manipulates the data
[22:20] <Agamemnus> sends data back.
[22:20] <Agamemnus> and closes.
[22:20] <FloodBot1> Agamemnus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <cheshirelulcat> It says /usr/bin/fdisk , no such file or directory
[22:21] <ZIPY> StarshipTravelle: forget it i thought im on quakenet lol
[22:21] <bekks> Agamemnus: Then compile it dynamically, and provide the custom locations of the dynamic libraries needed, when compiling it.
[22:21] <Agamemnus> is that what you were asking when you asked what it does?
[22:21] <arthurdent> that's dumb that they would make the channel +r
[22:21] <bekks> Agamemnus: There is no point in running mysql 4.x anymore.
[22:21] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: change /usr/bin/fdisk to /bin/fdisk in the script
[22:22] <Agamemnus> i don't have to install those libraries?
[22:22] <Agamemnus> i can just copy them in somewhere?
[22:22] <ZIPY> StarshipTravelle: /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com
[22:22] <bekks> Agamemnus: Sure.
[22:22] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: sorry, change it to /sbin/fdisk
[22:22] <Agamemnus> so, just the .so files?
[22:22] <Agamemnus> I thought there were other files
[22:22] <cheshirelulcat> works
[22:22] <cheshirelulcat> Thanks :D
[22:22] <StarshipTravelle> ZIPY: sorry, its too dificult for me, i had alredy created account, but i cant joint #ubuntu-ru, i dont know how it works
[22:23] <bekks> Agamemnus: There might be, though.
[22:23] <cheshirelulcat> If I ever want to remove this, just delete the script and the line in /etc/profile?
[22:23] <Agamemnus> i contacted my host and asked them to move me to their unmanaged plan.
[22:23] <Agamemnus> i will wait for that, I guess.
[22:23] <ZIPY> StarshipTravelle: what irc client are you using?
[22:23] <arthurdent> cheshirelulcat: yep
[22:23] <StarshipTravelle> ZIPY:  pidgin
[22:23] <Jordan_U> cheshirelulcat: Yes, and also remove the directory /fdbin/.
[22:23] <cheshirelulcat> Mmk, thank you very much!
[22:23] <arthurdent> np
[22:25] <ZIPY> StarshipTravelle: ok if u want you can isntall sudo apt-get install pidgin-plugin-pack and activate irc helper there you can put in your nickserv nickname and your password and it will automatically login on connect and you can join channels with +r
[22:26] <arthurdent> Jordan_U: lol he's gonna be back asking how to hide it elsewhere. i still have no idea why he wanted to do that
[22:27] <StarshipTravelle> ZIPY: ok, i will try this, thanks :)
[22:28] <ZIPY> but u need an account first with the commandline i posted
[22:28] <ZIPY> but you said you have one already
[22:28] <arthurdent> you have to identify
[22:29] <StarshipTravelle> ZIPY: yes, i have create it after installing pidgin
[22:29] <cinvoke> anyone in here know anything about ubuntu halting on boot , or how to diagnose the issue?
[22:30] <Pinkamen1_D> so still no luck fixing the blinking cursor, thought I thought it might be worth mentioning that pressing ctrl+alt+del while its blinking has the effect of rebooting the server. Does this mean that the problem is something with the server as opposed to the ubuntu installation?
[22:30] <Pinkamen1_D> (or can you do that anyway)
[22:31] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: what blinking cursor?
[22:32] <sealbhach> cinvoke, hold down the Shift key immediately after you press the power on button, see if you get the boot menu
[22:32] <maxmas> !list
[22:32] <maxmas> ciao a tutti
[22:32] <maxmas> !list
[22:32] <cinvoke> sealbhach: recovery console?
[22:33] <ZIPY> cinvoke: yes
[22:33] <ZIPY> cinvoke: you see where it stops then
[22:33] <cinvoke> ZIPY: did that and repair packages
[22:33] <cinvoke> ZIPY: o
[22:33] <cinvoke> ZIPY: how?
[22:33] <sealbhach> Just try it cinvoke
[22:34] <cinvoke> ZIPY: sorry i was thinking of something else. it stops on "checking battery state".  sealbhach
[22:34] <cinvoke> sealbhach: ZIPY i tried reinstalling pae too.
[22:35] <cinvoke> sealbhach: ZIPY tried dpkg-reconfigure xfce4-session  or somethign similar
[22:35] <MrSassyPants> for a week or so, firefox has been memleaking until the OOM killer kills it after a few hours. anyone know anything about this?
[22:35] <sealbhach> Can you get the grub menu up and choose an earlier kernel?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> MrSassyPants: Have you tried disabling all plugins/extentions?
[22:36] <MrSassyPants> Jordan_U,
[22:36] <MrSassyPants> nope
[22:36] <cinvoke> sealbhach: yes. let me take a snapshot. and sae work.  give me a few.
[22:37] <Jordan_U> MrSassyPants: See if that stops it, and if it does you can try to narrow down which extention is actually leaking.
[22:37] <MrSassyPants> Jordan_U, no point to that. Is there a way to show mem usage in firefox' subsystems? a debug screen or something?
[22:39] <Deathfiyr> Hey Guys
[22:39] <Pinkamen1_D> zipy, I am in the process of trying to fix a machine that will no longer boot up
[22:40] <Pinkamen1_D> It boots from livecd but not the hard drive which was working fine yesterday
[22:40] <Pinkamen1_D> will not show grub menu and fsck does not seem to fix it
[22:40] <Deathfiyr> Pinkamen1_D I had the same problem with an old pc of mine
[22:41] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: so it doesnt boot?
[22:41] <Pinkamen1_D> no, it will not, it just shows a blinking cursor
[22:41] <Deathfiyr> check your sata/ide cables
[22:41] <Pinkamen1_D> the hard drive is SAS, and I have just tried reseating it
[22:41] <genii> MrSassyPants: about:memory
[22:41] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: or you have the wrong hdd in your bios as startup
[22:42] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: select the one that contains gurb
[22:42]  * Deathfiyr wants to know why there are flood bots connected?
[22:43] <Pinkamen1_D> what would cause the bios options to change...
[22:43] <cinvoke> sealbhach: since im booting into an earlier kernel, if it does boot, wont it break some of my sw packs?  like lamp?
[22:43] <MrSassyPants> genii, thanks. I also have a constant 100% cpu (1/4 cpus) on firefox which is newish
[22:44] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: i had the same problem today when i reinstalled debian and i have windows on a 2nd harddrive
[22:45] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: the debian installer installed grub on the windows hdd
[22:45] <ZIPY> Pinkamen1_D: but my bio was still booting from debian hdd
[22:45] <chrs_> my unity desktop isn't working quite right
[22:45] <ZIPY> +s
[22:45] <ZIPY> so i had only a blinking cursor
[22:45] <chrs_> i believe it's crashing because of the software simulated acceleration
[22:46] <cinvoke> ZIPY: first it shows "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned"  then halts on "checking battery state..."
[22:46] <chrs_> where are the logs for that sort of thing to help me see?
[22:47] <reisio> chrs_: /var/log/
[22:48] <ZIPY> cinvoke: maybe someone can help you if you paste your dmesg
[22:49] <cinvoke> ZIPY: ok. trying without guest additions
[22:49] <chrs_> reisio: find /var/log -iregex '.*compiz.*' print
[22:49] <chrs_> is nothing
[22:49] <reisio> chrs_: what's the problem?
[22:49] <chrs_> not sure what i need to be looking for
[22:50] <chrs_> when i login all i see is the desktop background
[22:50] <chrs_> none of the applications are launching
[22:50] <ZIPY> cinvoke: why without guest additions?
[22:50] <reisio> chrs_: this is ordinary Unity?
[22:50] <chrs_> and i get periodically kicked out of the desktop and back into the login window
[22:50] <chrs_> yes
[22:50] <chrs_> plain ubnuntu 13.04
[22:50] <cinvoke> ZIPY: that randomly crashed just now
[22:50] <chrs_> i don't have hardware graphical accleration yet though
[22:51] <chrs_> so i guess the graphics system ui is using mesa or something
[22:51] <ZIPY> cinvoke: you are on virtualbox, dont you have snapshots?
[22:51] <chrs_> is "unity" the window manager?
[22:51] <reisio> chrs_: nope
[22:52] <reisio> chrs_: compiz is
[22:52] <ZIPY> no
[22:52] <chrs_> the login window looks fine, it's after i try logging in, shit goes wrong
[22:52] <ZIPY> its your enviroment
[22:52] <cinvoke> ZIPY: i only have 2, which are messed up too.  the inly way i can get into desktop is zlt cntl f1,  "xinit"  and xfce4-session
[22:52] <ZIPY> chrs_: unity is your desktop enviroement
[22:52] <chrs_> ok
[22:53] <chrs_> would be interesting to see what compiz is crashing on, just to make sure it's the slow graphics
[22:53] <ZIPY> cinvoke: how do u xinit if ur boot freezes?
[22:54] <ZIPY> cinvoke: so you can boot, but you have an xorg problem?
[22:54] <ZIPY> xserver
[22:54] <cinvoke> ZIPY: it just halts, never continues, so i swich to another term instance
[22:54] <reisio> chrs_: sorry you get booted back to the login screen, you said?
[22:54] <chrs_> yea
[22:54] <chrs_> i'm starting to see the problem
[22:55] <ZIPY> cinvoke: and what happens if you startx?
[22:55] <chrs_> i tried launching compiz manually from a terminal
[22:55] <chrs_> "error opengl es not loaded"
[22:55] <chrs_> or something, i lost the window
[22:55] <ZIPY> cinvoke: ah no lghtdm i meant
[22:55] <ZIPY> or what ever you use
[22:55] <chrs_> every time switch from x to a virtual console terminal i get kicked out of the desktop environment and back to a gui login
[22:55] <cinvoke> ZIPY: i use lightdm for xfce4
[22:56] <chrs_> i found a blog where some user is having the same issues as i'm having on this laptop
[22:56] <jcat> is google down!?!?!
[22:56] <chrs_> looks like there might be some kind of workaround
[22:57] <ZIPY> jcat: lol thats what i was wondering too
[22:57] <jcat> duuude
[22:57] <ZIPY> back again :D
[22:57] <reisio> yeah it's not in perfect condition
[22:57] <cinvoke> ZIPY: so in another window, i ran  sudo lightdm, and it made the sreeen larger light it was about to jump into gui, then went back to  original window, where it was stuck on checking battery state
[22:57] <cinvoke> light=like
[22:59] <ZIPY> cinvoke: hmm i dont use lightdm but i guess you can reconfigure or reinstall it too
[22:59] <SierraAR> Out of curiousity, why does apt-get upgrade not seem to update everything that update manager finds and updates?
[23:00] <ZIPY> SierraAR: apt-get update first
[23:00] <ZIPY> then apt-get upgrade
[23:00] <djtdjtdjt> Hi all. I have just run the command, "rm -rf" with nothing after it, on a server for a web client. The server has now become "broken", nothing working at all. What happens with "rm -rf" with no arguments or anything after it?
[23:00] <cinvoke> ZIPY: i just purged it.  upgrade now or after install?
[23:01] <ZIPY> cinvoke: that upgrade was for SierraAR
[23:01] <cinvoke> ZIPY: o ok :)
[23:01] <SierraAR> ZIPY: I do that before running apt-get upgrade, but after  areboot update manager always has a couple more things to update that apt-get upgrade didn't pick up. Running update manager seems to clear them all, though.
[23:01] <djtdjtdjt> Does anybody know what happens with "rm -rf" without anything after it?
[23:01] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: nothing happens.
[23:02] <ZIPY> djtdjtdjt: it asks for a path
[23:03] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: check your history for what you actually ran
[23:03] <djtdjtdjt> it was just coincidental that the minute after I run rm -rf, numerous times, the entire site goes down, all WHM login breaks, everything breaks. I'm not the only one with access to the server though.
[23:04] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: why would you run "rm -rf" numerous times if 1) you don't know what it does and 2) it didn't seem to do anything the first few times?
[23:04] <anayou> hi
[23:04] <reisio> anayou: hiyo
[23:04] <chrs_> AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/arml-linux-gnueabihf/dri/armsoc_dri.so failed failed
[23:05] <chrs_> that appears to be the root of my problem
[23:05] <reisio> djtdjtdjt: even if you gave it the path '/', on any install that isn't massively out of date, nothing would happen
[23:05] <chrs_> how do i find which package is supposed to provide a particular file?
[23:05] <chrs_> is that a dpkg option?
[23:05] <anayou> hello reisio
[23:05] <reisio> GNU decided a while back that people who really want to run that command will be willing to exert more effort
[23:05] <reisio> anayou: hiyo
[23:06] <chrs_> i think i found it, nevermind
[23:06] <djtdjtdjt> jrib: I knew it deleted a directory. But I had a dumb moment and didn't specify the directory.
[23:06] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: well it doesn't do anything
[23:06] <reisio> chrs_: your solution?
[23:06] <anayou> every body here is work with linux
[23:07] <reisio> chrs_: it's protocol to say what your solution was, for posterity
[23:07] <reisio> anayou: a high percentage
[23:07] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: you may enjoy reading http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake-patches/2013-05/msg00162.html
[23:08] <djtdjtdjt> Is it possible to completely break WHM Accelerated and all CPanel users when logged in as root and running a variation of the rm -rf command?
[23:08] <ZIPY> djtdjtdjt: if you want, i can test it on a vm :D
[23:08] <anayou> ok , i work with ubuntu 13.04
[23:08] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: of course.  Depends on the variation.
[23:08] <anayou> i have problem in my ubuntu
[23:08] <djtdjtdjt> rm -rf * or rm -rf / or rm -rf rm -rf rm - rf
[23:09] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: please don't paste those commands here with context.
[23:09] <jrib> !danger
[23:09] <cinvoke> ZIPY: i just rebooted after purge as it said some things would only take affect after reboot.  it actually tries to go into the desktop and states: Could not update ICEauthority file: /var/lib/gdm/.ICEauthority
[23:09] <jrib> djtdjtdjt: obviously if you issue an rm command that deletes files your program requires, it will make your program not work.
[23:10] <ZIPY> Ehfar)88&!%&
[23:10] <ZIPY> haha i had that problem too cinvoke
[23:11] <anayou> guys can i install whatsapp in ubuntu
[23:11] <reisio> anayou: yup
[23:11] <cinvoke> ZIPY: gdm is owned by gdm:gdm kik
[23:11] <cinvoke> lo
[23:11] <cinvoke> l
[23:11] <cinvoke> wtcrap
[23:11] <holstein> anayou: nothing in ubntu is preveting that..
[23:11] <anayou> how?
[23:11] <ZIPY> cinvoke: it was wrong permissions on .iceauthority
[23:11] <reisio> anayou: no idea
[23:11] <holstein> anayou: let me google, and see what application you are talking about, and see if there is linux support
[23:12] <cinvoke> ZIPY: should root own the whole folder?
[23:12] <anayou> he see yes
[23:12] <reisio> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22whatsapp%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[23:12] <anayou> i can do this but how?
[23:12] <ZIPY> cinvoke: wait a sec ill check in vm
[23:13] <cinvoke> ZIPY: gdm is a real group in etc group
[23:13] <cinvoke> atleast
[23:13] <holstein> anayou: i see there is an andoid version.. you would run android in ubuntu.. or ask the developers for a linux/ubuntu version
[23:13] <anayou> android in ubuntu
[23:13] <holstein> anayou: ideally, you would have this conversation with the developers of the applications.. we, as volunteers for supporting ubuntu, are not going to be able to make ubuntu capable of running that application..
[23:14] <holstein> anayou: http://askubuntu.com/questions/279816/installing-apps-like-whatsapp for example
[23:14] <holstein> anayou: i would think about replacing that functionality with a native application
[23:15] <anayou> he not work .. i do every thing from askubuntu
[23:16] <thurstylark> What command do I use to find my version?
[23:17] <anayou> & i want to downloaded from terminal
[23:17] <anayou> any app.
[23:17] <daftykins> thurstylark: cat /etc/lsb-release would work but there's some proper way
[23:18] <thurstylark> daftykins: that worked. Thanks
[23:18] <anayou> wait me
[23:18] <cinvoke> ZIPY: i just chowned to gdm:root... that seems to work fine
[23:19] <ZIPY> cinvoke: i didnt even have the gdm folder on my 12.04 vm
[23:19] <ZIPY> ah lol
[23:19] <ZIPY> thats gnome
[23:19] <cinvoke> something i installed on top of something else probably
[23:19] <ZIPY> gnome desktop manager
[23:19] <cinvoke> oh!
[23:19] <cinvoke> i did
[23:19] <cinvoke> dammit
[23:19] <holstein> anayou: i assure you, there is no current native linux/ubuntu version of whatsapp that i have seen.. but, you *can* install the android sdk and run whatsapp there.. or, ask the developers how you are intended to run it in ubuntu..
[23:20] <holstein> !language
[23:20] <ZIPY> ^^
[23:20] <cinvoke> ubottu: thats not even a word silly bot
[23:20] <ZIPY> ahaha
[23:20] <cinvoke> :)
[23:20] <holstein> cinvoke: that was fron me.. please refer to, and follow the guidelines.. thanks!
[23:20] <holstein> from*
[23:20] <cinvoke> holstein: o sry
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[23:21] <FloodBot1> jhy6h54ju: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <standaman> Question: If I create a videoDVD with DeVeDe and there is additional space on it, can I also add some non-movie files?
[23:23] <thurstylark> So, I have a ubuntu 11.04 server, and I want to upgrade to 12.04 or newer, but I only have install media for up to 11.04. Is there still a way to upgrade?
[23:23] <reisio> standaman: don't see why not
[23:24] <reisio> thurstylark: I can't imagine otherwise
[23:24] <daftykins> standaman: yeah should work
[23:24] <zoidberg-> Hey, so i have an esxi server with a little network inside it.. a linux router and then some natted hosts.  When i ssh to the router using keys, works fine, when i ssh from the router to one of the natted box even though keys are installed like the router it asks for a password... any idea why it does this and how i can make the keys just take affect?
[23:25] <cinvoke> ZIPY: reinstalled lightdm.  this time it looks like it actually did something. restarted. so im guessing it fell back to an old halfway installed gdm when i uninstalled lightdm
[23:25] <holstein> thurstylark: i would rather install 12.04 fresh,a nd literally whatever issues that might encounter
[23:25] <cinvoke> ZIPY: i may still have to purge gdm....
[23:25] <ZIPY> cinvoke: you should uninstall gdm too
[23:25] <ZIPY> ye
[23:25] <reisio> holstein: this won't work any longer?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[23:25] <ZIPY> or lightdm and use gdm the one you prefer :D
[23:26] <ZIPY> cinvoke: im off now, if you still get troubles, paste xorg.0.log, xserver-error and dmg. maybe someone can help you
[23:27] <Displacer_> hey guys. I got a question. What is the best GB emu for ubuntu?
[23:27] <ZIPY> cinvoke: dmg= dmesg ^^
[23:27] <cinvoke> ZIPY: thx!
[23:27] <reisio> Displacer_: hrmm?
[23:27] <daftykins> Displacer_: that's not really a support quest i'm afraid.
[23:28] <holstein> reisio: should... but id still rather do whatever it takes for a fresh install
[23:28] <Displacer_> daftykins: im sorry but what do you mean?
[23:28] <holstein> eitherway, 12.04 packages will be downloaded.. might as well be pre install, and make a nice installer
[23:29] <Displacer_> i just switched to linux and i need a way to run LSDj since i cant use VBA any more. but i havnt tried wine yet so ill do that
[23:29] <reisio> lsdj?
[23:30] <Displacer_> music tracking software for the DMG-01
[23:30] <holstein> Displacer_: try not using so many letters.. and assume that the volunteers here mostly just run linux/ubuntu, and need to know what funcitonality you need, or more details about what you are tyring to run and why
[23:30] <reisio> Displacer_: dmg-01? :)
[23:31] <holstein> Displacer_: there are many "trackers".. you will want to get used to using JACK.. you can try #opensourcemusicians
[23:31] <holstein> !proaudio
[23:32] <reisio> I'd just go ahead and look for an alternative instead of trying to run a win32 app
[23:32] <Displacer_> holstein: haha well if you know the field im in then you would know what those letters mean and you are more likely to be able to help me. I need an Emulator to run Little Sound DJ which is a Classic Gameboy rom in the .gb format. i am a chip musician and i have no way of running visual boy advanced since i switched to linux
[23:34] <Displacer_> holstein: also thank you for the chat link ill try there
[23:34] <holstein> Displacer_: there are many options, and you'll want to go to #opensourcemusicians and other general linux channels for audio. this is not a proaudio channel
[23:34] <holstein> Displacer_: there are *many* ways to do what you are wanting to do in ubuntu
[23:36] <holstein> Displacer_: that whas the channel.. and im giving you information there..
[23:37] <Displacer_> holstein: again thank you
[23:38] <vadimer> how is it going
[23:42] <vadimer> how do you get good at installing different types of files?
[23:43] <robert__> my new 3tb disk appears as 2 devices in gparted. i want to have it as a single unbootable ext4 volume. how can i do that?
[23:44] <Slart> vadimer: how do you mean? installing software from source?
[23:45] <Slart> robert__: if you have more than one partition on the hard drive you can always remove them and then create a new partition.. NOTE! this will destroy any data you have in these partitions
[23:45] <trism> Displacer_: does the visualboyadvance package not work?
[23:45] <robert__> Slart: there are no partitions on the drive. it is empty. but it appears as two devices sdb and sdc
[23:46] <robert__> Slart: drive sdb has 2tb and sdc the remaining 700gb or whatever.
[23:46] <Slart> robert__: hmm.. that's odd..not sure why it would do that
[23:48] <Slart> robert__: it's a normal drive? is it possible it's somehow setup to be "compatible" with older systems? a jumper perhaps
[23:48] <daftykins> ^good thinking
[23:49] <robert__> Slart: i'll have a look, but i didn't notice anything like a jumper. it had a label referring to seagate's web page on 2tb drives, but i didn't see anything beyond information on which os's have compatible drivers.
[23:50] <robert__> Slart: i'll try booting into win7 and see what that sees.
[23:52] <OerHeks> maybe a hybride drive, ssd and platters?
[23:52] <Slart> robert__: can't hurt to look
[23:53] <Slart> robert__: seagate's website mentions that 3Tb might be a problem in some configurations.. my guess is that it's some kind of safety setting
[23:54] <daftykins> robert__: wait, is windows 7 installed on this 3TB disk?
[23:55] <daftykins> robert__: is it also a custom build PC with maybe - a gigabyte motherboard?
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[23:58] <robert__> daftykins: win7 only shows 2tb and completely ignores the rest of the disk. i have tried in two linux installations. one on a thinkpad and one on a dell optiplex 330.