[00:24] <cinvoke> xubuntu 13.04 halts on checking battery state. i read that my Xauthority file may be corrupted, so i moved that and rebooted.  however, this didnt fix the problem.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[00:24] <damianos> Any gtkrc ninjas in here?
[00:33] <damianos> Can somebody enlighten me about how to target a specific widget in a gtkrc file?  The documentation I've found online is scattered and the info doesn't seem to be effective half the time. I'm running 13.04. I do have xfce4 installed but I'm using compiz standalone with xfce4-panel. I am trying to manipulate the hover effect over the panel buttons
[00:40] <wdkevinone> Hello. I just setup a new install of Xubuntu on a VM. I installed VMWare tools then changed my resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768 and now when I type my password to login, it just brings me back to the login screen again.
[01:19] <w30> wdkevinone, check the configuration in /etc/X11/xorg,conf and see if you can edit a 1024x768 entry  back to 880x600. Then maybe you can get your resolution fixed with a working GUI
[06:40] <Gooman24> Anyone around to help with and install question?
[06:45] <well_laid_lawn> depends on the question...
[06:45] <Gooman24> hopefully an easy one lol
[06:46] <Gooman24> I an trying to install 13.04 on a slightly older laptop
[06:46] <Gooman24> it has a bcm4318 based wifi card
[06:47] <Gooman24> eveytime I started the install it would crash to a black screen and scroll to fast for me to read
[06:47] <Gooman24> I did determine I think that the wifi card drivers is the problem
[06:47] <Gooman24> if I run the install plugged into an ethernet cable it does the same
[06:47] <Gooman24> if I tell it not to download updates it works... but will crash as soon as the OS loads and I try to dl any updates over ethernet
[06:48] <Gooman24> if I remove the wifi card(off the MB) it will install fine
[06:48] <Gooman24> now in the live enviroment I unloaded the modules for the wifi and installed the proper bcm4318 drivers and loaded the modules
[06:48] <Gooman24> then I was able to connect to wifi and everything seemed stable and working
[06:49] <Gooman24> I clicked the install button and it crashed again
[06:49] <Gooman24> so my question is would the install routine have tried to reload the bad drivers when it initialised the network?
[06:49] <Gooman24> should I have blacklisted them in the live enviroment... would that even help?
[06:50] <Gooman24> and the second question being I am running the install now with the wifi card removed... after it is done can I install the drivers... black list the old ones and the put that card in and reboot?  does that sound like the right approach?
[07:06] <bullgard4> Gooman24: Regarding your 2nd question: Yes you can try installing the driver. If it fails please analyze the error logs and continue installing accordingly.
[07:07] <Gooman24> any thoughts on the first part?
[07:11] <bullgard4> Gooman24: Your first question is: "would the install routine have tried to reload the bad drivers when it initialised the network?" You are using conjunctive voice. I do not understand your if clause. Can you re-word your if-clause, please?
[07:26] <well_laid_lawn> !broadcom
[08:33] <raven_> hi
[08:33] <raven_> xubuntu 13.04 on asus eeepc 1005ha: no power management any more, function keys not working, no known packages for these functions any more - any ideas?
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> define anymore?
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> did it work before?
[08:34] <raven_> yes, i see that my battery has just about half the time since installing 13.04 and for example wifi cannot be disabled by fn+f2
[08:35] <MrHotsauce> raven_: have you tried suspending and un-suspending your computer? i know it sounds stupid but thats what i have to do every boot to get my function keys working
[08:36] <raven_> MrHotsauce, suspending does not change that
[08:36] <raven_> there were special eee packages on previous versions but not any more
[08:56] <raven_> any ideas?
[10:02] <das> hello. is it possible to have the same panel as Xubuntu has in debian ?
[10:05] <TheSheep> yes
[10:05] <knome> das, xubuntu in debian? are you confused?
[10:05] <knome> oh, right.
[10:05] <TheSheep> as xfce has in debian
[10:05] <knome> no, he wants the xubuntu panel in debian
[10:05] <TheSheep> just choose the 'xfce session' instead of 'xubuntu session' on the first login
[10:05] <knome> but still, the answer is yes
[10:06] <das> I use xfce4 in debian
[10:06] <das> but I'm wondering if I can get a sleek panel like Xubuntu has
[10:06] <knome> das, it's just a panel with transparency
[10:06] <das> because what I have right now is kinda ugly
[10:07] <TheSheep> it's just a question of the theme and settings
[11:34] <NewOnXubuntu> hi there , how to put Keyboard layouts indicator on panel ?
[11:34] <NewOnXubuntu> i cant find it how
[11:46] <well_laid_lawn> NewOnXubuntu:  it might be in xfce-goodies iirc
[11:47] <well_laid_lawn> !info xfce-goodies
[11:49] <well_laid_lawn> maybe not
[11:50] <well_laid_lawn> !info xfce4-goodies
[16:14] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/sHGNGTtP
[17:23] <zodiak> strange question.. anyone got any good pointers/docs/guides on the touchscreens that are now appearing en masse in laptops with xubuntu ?
[17:23] <zodiak> do they work ? is it jst another pointer device to Xorg ?
[17:35] <TheSheep> zodiak: touchscreens are usually treated as 'absolute' pointer devices, just like graphic tablets
[17:35] <zodiak> oh! spiffy :)
[17:36] <TheSheep> whether they work depends on the exact model, of course
[17:36] <zodiak> cause.. yeah, I can't deal with being stuck with windows 8 ;)
[17:36] <zodiak> aaahh.. well. guess it's time to try it and see. Danke :)
[17:41] <xubuntu886> I've got a quick question
[17:41] <xubuntu886> I mean if anyone wants to answer it, that'd be cool
[17:49] <TheSheep> sorry, we don't answer unasked questions here
[17:50] <elfy> nor could we answer an asked on as quickly as that
[18:01] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/AUDAjk9e
[18:02] <bazhang> !crosspost | cinvoke
[18:04] <cinvoke> bazhang: nice someone is alive!  didnt realize anyone saw my older one.
[18:08] <cinvoke> bazhang: am i asking the right question?  is there perhap another way to put it?  i know some helpers have their "standards
[18:30] <Rourick> hello :)
[18:36] <Rourick> im kinda new 2 linux my ? is...
[18:37] <Rourick> my wifi only work's on kernel 3.2 how do i make it work on xubuntu's latest version
[18:37] <Rourick> im on LTS now
[20:06] <BlueShark> Hey!
[20:08] <BlueShark> I'm currently using Xubuntu 12.04 and I was trying to upgrade to the latest stable release with `sudo apt-get upgrade` — it finished the process but `lsb_release -a` still shows 'Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS' even after a reboot. Any idea what's wrong?
[20:08] <pleia2> you want `do-release-upgrade`
[20:08] <pleia2> plain old upgrade just does upgrades on your current version
[20:09] <pleia2> and from 12.04 do-release-upgrade will get you to 12.10, you run it again to get to 13.04
[20:09] <elfy> will 12.04 upgrade to anything but the next lts? ie 14.04
[20:09] <pleia2> elfy: only 12.10
[20:09] <pleia2> and when 14.04 comes out, it can upgrade to that
[20:10]  * elfy thought you had to change things to get lts to see anything but lts 
[20:10] <elfy> perhaps I should use a release for longer than a week
[20:10] <pleia2> I think that's just for auto-prompting
[20:10] <Unit193> elfy: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  yeah.
[20:11] <pleia2> you can still upgrade to 12.10, it just won't prompt you for it
[20:12] <BlueShark> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[20:12] <BlueShark> No new release found
[20:13] <BlueShark> pleia2: when I did `do-release-upgrade` ^ that was the result.
[20:13] <pleia2> BlueShark: try: do-release-upgrade -d
[20:14] <pleia2> it should have been fine though, the non-support for upgrading is only pre 12.04.2
[20:14] <BlueShark> I think that worked!
[20:14] <pleia2> good :)
[20:15] <BlueShark> probably a stupid question, but...
[20:15] <BlueShark> can I schedule the second do-release-upgrade too?
[20:15] <pleia2> you'll want to wait until this one is done and make sure things work ok (do a reboot)
[20:16] <pleia2> then you can do the next one to get you to 13.04
[20:16] <BlueShark> ah, okay. cool
[20:16] <BlueShark> will do, thanks.
[20:16] <pleia2> my current system has been installed since 10.04, upgrades every 6 months like this
[20:16] <BlueShark> automatically?
[20:16] <pleia2> I run do-release-upgrade
[22:04] <Harrihu> Hello
[22:04] <knome> hello
[22:05] <Harrihu> Has anyone here ever run into an installation of untrusted packages issue while updating?
[22:05] <knome> i think i've heard that before - i suppose it's because you are using a country mirror instead of the main mirror
[22:05] <Harrihu> Um not sure
[22:05] <knome> can you check the terminal output and see if there's anything about what server the installer is using
[22:06] <Harrihu> ok
[22:06] <Harrihu> how would one go about doing that?
[22:06] <knome> iirc, there's a small arrow and some text saying about terminal output
[22:07] <knome> when you click that, some black-backgrounded text should appear
[22:07] <Harrihu> Right the terminal
[22:07] <Harrihu> one moment
[22:07] <Harrihu> OK I clicked show updates
[22:08] <Harrihu> Just gave me the option to update software. I can click install now, cancel and settings. I'll click settings
[22:09] <knome> you can choose cancel if you're unsure - that should allow you to finish off the installation any way
[22:10] <Harrihu> No I think I found the problem. You were right. In the settings it was set to United States. I switched it to Main.
[22:10] <knome> ok, no problem
[22:10] <knome> enjoy :)
[22:11] <Harrihu> OK so um interesting...
[22:11] <Harrihu> I did that switch then tried to update and without doing anything it instantly generated a crash report icon and now claims it's all up to date.
[22:12] <Harrihu> LOL So wierd guess I'll keep experementing
[22:14] <Harrihu> Guess I'm up to date
[22:14] <Harrihu> fffuuuuu got to go. I'll be back later
[22:14] <Harrihu> cya and thanks for the help knome