[00:24] <cinvoke> xubuntu 13.04 halts on checking battery state. i read that my Xauthority file may be corrupted, so i moved that and rebooted.  however, this didnt fix the problem.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[00:24] <damianos> Any gtkrc ninjas in here?
[00:33] <damianos> Can somebody enlighten me about how to target a specific widget in a gtkrc file?  The documentation I've found online is scattered and the info doesn't seem to be effective half the time. I'm running 13.04. I do have xfce4 installed but I'm using compiz standalone with xfce4-panel. I am trying to manipulate the hover effect over the panel buttons
[00:40] <wdkevinone> Hello. I just setup a new install of Xubuntu on a VM. I installed VMWare tools then changed my resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768 and now when I type my password to login, it just brings me back to the login screen again.
[01:19] <w30> wdkevinone, check the configuration in /etc/X11/xorg,conf and see if you can edit a 1024x768 entry  back to 880x600. Then maybe you can get your resolution fixed with a working GUI
[06:40] <Gooman24> Anyone around to help with and install question?
[06:45] <well_laid_lawn> depends on the question...
[06:45] <Gooman24> hopefully an easy one lol
[06:46] <Gooman24> I an trying to install 13.04 on a slightly older laptop
[06:46] <Gooman24> it has a bcm4318 based wifi card
[06:47] <Gooman24> eveytime I started the install it would crash to a black screen and scroll to fast for me to read
[06:47] <Gooman24> I did determine I think that the wifi card drivers is the problem
[06:47] <Gooman24> if I run the install plugged into an ethernet cable it does the same
[06:47] <Gooman24> if I tell it not to download updates it works... but will crash as soon as the OS loads and I try to dl any updates over ethernet
[06:48] <Gooman24> if I remove the wifi card(off the MB) it will install fine
[06:48] <Gooman24> now in the live enviroment I unloaded the modules for the wifi and installed the proper bcm4318 drivers and loaded the modules
[06:48] <Gooman24> then I was able to connect to wifi and everything seemed stable and working
[06:49] <Gooman24> I clicked the install button and it crashed again
[06:49] <Gooman24> so my question is would the install routine have tried to reload the bad drivers when it initialised the network?
[06:49] <Gooman24> should I have blacklisted them in the live enviroment... would that even help?
[06:50] <Gooman24> and the second question being I am running the install now with the wifi card removed... after it is done can I install the drivers... black list the old ones and the put that card in and reboot?  does that sound like the right approach?
[07:06] <bullgard4> Gooman24: Regarding your 2nd question: Yes you can try installing the driver. If it fails please analyze the error logs and continue installing accordingly.
[07:07] <Gooman24> any thoughts on the first part?
[07:11] <bullgard4> Gooman24: Your first question is: "would the install routine have tried to reload the bad drivers when it initialised the network?" You are using conjunctive voice. I do not understand your if clause. Can you re-word your if-clause, please?
[07:26] <well_laid_lawn> !broadcom
[07:26] <ubottu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:33] <raven_> hi
[08:33] <raven_> xubuntu 13.04 on asus eeepc 1005ha: no power management any more, function keys not working, no known packages for these functions any more - any ideas?
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> define anymore?
[08:33] <pmjdebruijn> did it work before?
[08:34] <raven_> yes, i see that my battery has just about half the time since installing 13.04 and for example wifi cannot be disabled by fn+f2
[08:35] <MrHotsauce> raven_: have you tried suspending and un-suspending your computer? i know it sounds stupid but thats what i have to do every boot to get my function keys working
[08:36] <raven_> MrHotsauce, suspending does not change that
[08:36] <raven_> there were special eee packages on previous versions but not any more
[08:56] <raven_> any ideas?
[10:02] <das> hello. is it possible to have the same panel as Xubuntu has in debian ?
[10:05] <TheSheep> yes
[10:05] <knome> das, xubuntu in debian? are you confused?
[10:05] <knome> oh, right.
[10:05] <TheSheep> as xfce has in debian
[10:05] <knome> no, he wants the xubuntu panel in debian
[10:05] <TheSheep> just choose the 'xfce session' instead of 'xubuntu session' on the first login
[10:05] <knome> but still, the answer is yes
[10:06] <das> I use xfce4 in debian
[10:06] <das> but I'm wondering if I can get a sleek panel like Xubuntu has
[10:06] <knome> das, it's just a panel with transparency
[10:06] <das> because what I have right now is kinda ugly
[10:07] <TheSheep> it's just a question of the theme and settings
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[11:34] <NewOnXubuntu> hi there , how to put Keyboard layouts indicator on panel ?
[11:34] <NewOnXubuntu> i cant find it how
[11:46] <well_laid_lawn> NewOnXubuntu:  it might be in xfce-goodies iirc
[11:47] <well_laid_lawn> !info xfce-goodies
[11:47] <ubottu> Package xfce-goodies does not exist in raring
[11:49] <well_laid_lawn> maybe not
[11:50] <well_laid_lawn> !info xfce4-goodies
[11:50] <ubottu> xfce4-goodies (source: xfce4-goodies): enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.8.2 (raring), package size 4 kB, installed size 27 kB
[16:14] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/sHGNGTtP
[17:23] <zodiak> strange question.. anyone got any good pointers/docs/guides on the touchscreens that are now appearing en masse in laptops with xubuntu ?
[17:23] <zodiak> do they work ? is it jst another pointer device to Xorg ?
[17:35] <TheSheep> zodiak: touchscreens are usually treated as 'absolute' pointer devices, just like graphic tablets
[17:35] <zodiak> oh! spiffy :)
[17:36] <TheSheep> whether they work depends on the exact model, of course
[17:36] <zodiak> cause.. yeah, I can't deal with being stuck with windows 8 ;)
[17:36] <zodiak> aaahh.. well. guess it's time to try it and see. Danke :)
[17:41] <xubuntu886> I've got a quick question
[17:41] <xubuntu886> I mean if anyone wants to answer it, that'd be cool
[17:49] <TheSheep> sorry, we don't answer unasked questions here
[17:50] <elfy> nor could we answer an asked on as quickly as that
[18:01] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/AUDAjk9e
[18:02] <bazhang> !crosspost | cinvoke
[18:02] <ubottu> cinvoke: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.
[18:04] <cinvoke> bazhang: nice someone is alive!  didnt realize anyone saw my older one.
[18:08] <cinvoke> bazhang: am i asking the right question?  is there perhap another way to put it?  i know some helpers have their "standards
[18:30] <Rourick> hello :)
[18:36] <Rourick> im kinda new 2 linux my ? is...
[18:37] <Rourick> my wifi only work's on kernel 3.2 how do i make it work on xubuntu's latest version
[18:37] <Rourick> im on LTS now
[20:06] <BlueShark> Hey!
[20:08] <BlueShark> I'm currently using Xubuntu 12.04 and I was trying to upgrade to the latest stable release with `sudo apt-get upgrade` — it finished the process but `lsb_release -a` still shows 'Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS' even after a reboot. Any idea what's wrong?
[20:08] <pleia2> you want `do-release-upgrade`
[20:08] <pleia2> plain old upgrade just does upgrades on your current version
[20:09] <pleia2> and from 12.04 do-release-upgrade will get you to 12.10, you run it again to get to 13.04
[20:09] <elfy> will 12.04 upgrade to anything but the next lts? ie 14.04
[20:09] <pleia2> elfy: only 12.10
[20:09] <pleia2> and when 14.04 comes out, it can upgrade to that
[20:10]  * elfy thought you had to change things to get lts to see anything but lts 
[20:10] <elfy> perhaps I should use a release for longer than a week
[20:10] <pleia2> I think that's just for auto-prompting
[20:10] <Unit193> elfy: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  yeah.
[20:11] <pleia2> you can still upgrade to 12.10, it just won't prompt you for it
[20:12] <BlueShark> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[20:12] <BlueShark> No new release found
[20:13] <BlueShark> pleia2: when I did `do-release-upgrade` ^ that was the result.
[20:13] <pleia2> BlueShark: try: do-release-upgrade -d
[20:14] <pleia2> it should have been fine though, the non-support for upgrading is only pre 12.04.2
[20:14] <BlueShark> I think that worked!
[20:14] <pleia2> good :)
[20:15] <BlueShark> probably a stupid question, but...
[20:15] <BlueShark> can I schedule the second do-release-upgrade too?
[20:15] <pleia2> you'll want to wait until this one is done and make sure things work ok (do a reboot)
[20:16] <pleia2> then you can do the next one to get you to 13.04
[20:16] <BlueShark> ah, okay. cool
[20:16] <BlueShark> will do, thanks.
[20:16] <pleia2> my current system has been installed since 10.04, upgrades every 6 months like this
[20:16] <BlueShark> automatically?
[20:16] <pleia2> I run do-release-upgrade
[22:04] <Harrihu> Hello
[22:04] <knome> hello
[22:05] <Harrihu> Has anyone here ever run into an installation of untrusted packages issue while updating?
[22:05] <knome> i think i've heard that before - i suppose it's because you are using a country mirror instead of the main mirror
[22:05] <Harrihu> Um not sure
[22:05] <knome> can you check the terminal output and see if there's anything about what server the installer is using
[22:06] <Harrihu> ok
[22:06] <Harrihu> how would one go about doing that?
[22:06] <knome> iirc, there's a small arrow and some text saying about terminal output
[22:07] <knome> when you click that, some black-backgrounded text should appear
[22:07] <Harrihu> Right the terminal
[22:07] <Harrihu> one moment
[22:07] <Harrihu> OK I clicked show updates
[22:08] <Harrihu> Just gave me the option to update software. I can click install now, cancel and settings. I'll click settings
[22:09] <knome> you can choose cancel if you're unsure - that should allow you to finish off the installation any way
[22:10] <Harrihu> No I think I found the problem. You were right. In the settings it was set to United States. I switched it to Main.
[22:10] <knome> ok, no problem
[22:10] <knome> enjoy :)
[22:11] <Harrihu> OK so um interesting...
[22:11] <Harrihu> I did that switch then tried to update and without doing anything it instantly generated a crash report icon and now claims it's all up to date.
[22:12] <Harrihu> LOL So wierd guess I'll keep experementing
[22:14] <Harrihu> Guess I'm up to date
[22:14] <Harrihu> fffuuuuu got to go. I'll be back later
[22:14] <Harrihu> cya and thanks for the help knome