[03:06] <sakang> can't boot 3.11.0-2-generic with segfault on nouveau_drm. any idea/workaround?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> sakang, Is that part of the standard updates?
[03:17] <sakang> wilee-nilee: of course, that's the latest kernel for saucy
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> sakang, Cool I have not booted to it for a couple of days.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:14] <philinux> BluesKaj: o/
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hey philinux
[14:20] <philinux> wotcha, what u up too sat afternoon
[14:23] <BluesKaj> it's still sat morning here , probly have a couple of beers and set up the drum kit
[14:23] <BluesKaj> this aft
[14:24] <BluesKaj> and you philinux ?
[14:32] <philinux> watching english premier league footy and patrolling forum
[14:32] <philinux> out for beer later
[15:32] <cslcm> hi folks. Having a bit of an issue with saucy-server installer.  After I select "Engligh", and then "Install" - it brings up another language selection screen, but not before powering down the USB bus!  So my keyboard no longer functions. Anyone know a workaround? (The machine has no ps/2 ports)
[15:59] <alankila> cslcm: sounds vaguely similar to what happened to my macbook air when I tried to update it to saucy. It booted just fine but because usb was turned off I couldn't do anything with it, the keyboard didn't respond
[16:56] <penguin42> cslcm: On what hardware?
[17:04] <cslcm> penguin42:  HP Proliant Microserver
[17:04] <cslcm> (if you're asking about a specific piece of the hardware i can answer that too)
[17:05] <penguin42> hmm ok, I'd just seen some reports on a particular set of sony laptops
[17:05] <penguin42> cslcm: Is it all the USB ports or just some?
[17:05] <cslcm> all (it only has four)
[17:06] <penguin42> hmm ok, that's a bit nasty
[17:10] <penguin42> cslcm: I'm not too sure what to suggest to fix it, but it's also a bit tricky to report, I think maybe I'd try to get a shell before that point, install openssh-server on the install ram disk, ssh in from another machine and see what it looks like once your USB ports have gone off - i.e. is it just the USB ports?
[17:10] <penguin42> oh
[17:43] <pepee> so, how bad would be to use ubuntu 13.10 alpha as the main desktop at the moment?
[17:44] <pepee> this is almost 2 years old AMD hardware... but I want to use the latest features from the radeon driver
[17:45] <penguin42> pepee: Well you should be able to run with the latest AMD drivers I think
[17:45] <penguin42> although I'm not 100% sure whether that's available in the alpha yet so hmm
[17:46] <penguin42> actually, hmm maybe not - jockey isn't finding any for my radeon
[17:46] <pepee> should be integrated in the kernel or some other package
[17:46] <penguin42> pepee: Well, there looks like there are fglrx packages so I'd hope it's ok
[17:47] <pepee> not talking aboout fglrx
[17:47] <pepee> *about
[17:47] <penguin42> ok, so you mean with the open drivers?
[17:48] <pepee> yeah, well, latest radeon release has video decoding + power management + some performance optimizations
[17:48] <pepee> yeah
[17:48] <penguin42> right ok
[17:48] <penguin42> pepee: Well yeh I run KDE on +1 with an HD4325
[17:49] <pepee> did you enable DPM?
[17:49] <penguin42> hmm although hmm I do seem to be running it in XRender mode
[17:49] <penguin42> pepee: I haven't explicitly enabled anything
[17:49] <pepee> radeon.dpm=1 in the grub kernel command line
[17:50] <penguin42> pepee: It's a little difficult for me to tell because mine doesn't have a fan
[17:52] <penguin42> although it does have a temp sensor
[17:52] <penguin42> ok, cat /sys/module/radeon/parameters/dpm says -1 rather than 1 so I guess it's off?
[17:53] <pepee> well, it should run a bit colder than usual
[17:53] <pepee> I guess so
[17:53] <penguin42> nod, should give it a try sometime - not too big an issue - not a laptop, but I should try and save a few watts
[17:53] <pepee> ask in #radeon
[17:54] <penguin42> pepee: Anyway, give it a go! the Radeon driver in +1 works no worse than previous versions and as you say it might be able to do that
[17:55] <pepee> ok, I'll upgrade then
[17:55] <pepee> thanks penguin42
[17:55] <pepee> btw, afaik KDE has improved a bit too
[17:55] <penguin42> nod
[17:55] <penguin42> and also +1 seems a heck of a lot faster
[17:55] <pepee> I use KDE and LXDE
[17:55] <penguin42> I don't know, but I think it's something in the 3.11 kernel
[17:56] <pepee> http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=18703
[17:56] <pepee> http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=19022
[17:56] <pepee> read those
[17:57] <penguin42> thanks, but I meant more general system feel
[17:57] <pepee> yeah, FOSS driver has improved a lot lately
[18:12] <pepee> thanks penguin42 , I'll give it a try