[00:00] <daftykins> robert__: 7 is installed to this 3TB yes? you can only boot from a 3TB disk if it's GPT formatted. GPT formatted disks can only be booted by UEFI systems
[00:00] <daftykins> the rest of the issues could be related
[00:00] <UbuntuNoob> Anybody know of a lightweight Ubuntu app that listens to an IP port and initiates shutdown when a specific command is received on that port?
[00:00] <daftykins> UbuntuNoob: SSH? :)
[00:01] <robert__> daftykins: no 7 isn't installed on the disk. the disk is completely blank. i have tried formatting it as gpt, but that makes no difference.
[00:01] <daftykins> robert__: oh ok so it's a slave only, fair enough. sounds like the two systems are too old to address it correctly. was that through windows?
[00:02] <Slart> UbuntuNoob: aren't there some port-knocker daemons you could use? or even some port knocking firewall tutorials?
[00:02] <UbuntuNoob> daftykins: no, the trigger is coming from an embedded device, not a true OS, so all I can do is send a string to an IP port...
[00:02] <Slart> UbuntuNoob: this seems like a good place to start http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8528392/remotely-shutdown-reboot-linux-boxes-without-ssh
[00:03] <UbuntuNoob> Slart: Thanks -- I'll take a look
[00:04] <robert__> daftykins: windows simply can't see the extra 1tb. linux can see it, but not as part of the same device as the rest of the disk. are you saying that machines built 5 or 6 years ago didn't have support for >2tb drives?
[00:05] <daftykins> robert__: i would definitely expect the win7 system to be able to see the whole disk as one volume. looked into BIOS updates?
[00:07] <robert__> daftykins: the bios on the thinkpad is up to date, but the dell might well not be. i'll check it out. that's a good idea. thanks.
[00:07] <daftykins> robert__: no problemo! do you have the exact disk make + model also?
[00:09] <robert__> daftykins: it's a seagate barracuda st3000dm001
[00:10] <adasd> !screenshot
[00:10] <milosz1> jest ktoś z polski ?
[00:12] <daftykins> robert__: have you also checked out this 'Seagate DiscWizard' program that allegedly solves 2TB limitation issues?
[00:12] <daftykins> http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/support/internal-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/barracuda-xt/discwizard-master-dl/
[00:15] <robert__> daftykins: thanks. i'll check it out. i can't work out whether it's os-dependent, but then i haven't got any data to lose by trying....
[00:19] <L-sama> hi
[00:19] <L-sama> is it true that backtrack linux is base don ubuntu?
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack | L-sama
[00:20] <L-sama> its because #backtrack-linux is silenced
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, backtrarck is eol and not supported here.
[00:20] <L-sama> I know
[00:20] <L-sama> but if you mention it it confirms my question
[00:20] <L-sama> that its linux based
[00:20] <L-sama> ubuntu*
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> L-sama, Not supported period, not my decision. ;)
[00:21] <L-sama> aint it in direct competition with nubuntu?
[00:21] <robert__> daftykins: i've just read up on disk wizard and it looks like it's just for windows.
[00:22] <daftykins> robert__: ah sure but wouldn't hurt to run it and see what's going on?
[00:22] <robert__> daftykins: i suppose so...
[00:24] <L-sama> is nubuntu supported here?
[00:25] <daftykins> never even heard of it
[00:26] <Jordan_U> L-sama: Nubuntu appears to be discontinued, so I don't think it's supported anywhere.
[00:26] <L-sama> as I though backtrack probably killed it
[00:28] <mns2> Hello. DeVeDe doesn't seem to scale video sizes down at all with lower bitrates for DVDs. Does anyone know of a more reliable DVD authoring tool? (preferably with a gui)
[00:30] <styol> Hey there. I am performing some benchmarks against an Ubuntu 12.04 server that is load balancing requests using HAProxy and I'm having trouble identifying the source of connection resets being returned to the client during these high concurrency benchmarks. Any recommendations on where one might be able to start isolating the source of this issue or anything worth examining further?
[00:32] <daftykins> !server | styol
[00:32] <styol> thanks daftykins
[00:32] <daftykins> no problem sir o/
[00:36] <mns2> pls
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> mns2, Most videos are compressed already I believe.
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> If I understand you here
[00:37] <mns2> okay but if you put it on a dvd it has to be encoded for dvd players right?
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> mns2, Not sure.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> I would it is already mns2
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> think
[00:37] <mns2> When I put a 1 gb movie on a 4.7 gb dvd disk, it says there isn't enough space due to how long it is.
[00:38] <mns2> (can only fit 2 hrs)
[00:38] <reisio> mns2: it?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> mns2, You have dvd formatted as data? use nicks as well please
[00:38] <reisio> mns2: what format is this "1 gb movie"?
[00:38] <zoidberg-> win 32
[00:38] <Jordan_U> mns2: How are you "putting the movie" on the disk? mpeg2, the format used in Video DVDs, is a verry ineficient codec.
[00:39] <mns2> For the above example, Brasero
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> !who | mns2 makes things easier
[00:39] <rusty0101> mns2, when you burn a video dvd, the video file is a mpeg2 video file. I storngly suspect that the 1 gig file you are starting with is either an mp4 or xvid file that is more compressed.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> mns2: Do you want to use this DVD in actual DVD players or just in other computers?
[00:40] <mns2> Actual DVD players.
[00:40] <reisio> the only DVD you need is one that plays 'GET A MEDIA PC OR SMART TV' in a loop
[00:40] <mns2> And it's mp4
[00:40] <themanwithnoface> is there such a thing or way to make it so that if you enter a string into google and you don't like the results you click 'search' again and if google recognizes that it is the exact same string it adjusts the time in 'search tools'  to the last 5 years, or past year past 24 hours. etc. ?
[00:40] <reisio> mns2: whatever software you're using probably re-encodes to fit the space available exactly
[00:40] <reisio> mns2: you'd have to reduce the quality to get it smaller
[00:41] <mns2> That's the problem. DeVeDe manages to not re-encode correctly
[00:41] <reisio> themanwithnoface: ?
[00:41] <mns2> It makes the resulting file too big.
[00:41] <reisio> mns2: well that's no surprise, DVD mastering is arcane
[00:41] <reisio> I wouldn't recommend it
[00:41] <reisio> not in 2013, not in 1995
[00:41] <Jordan_U> mns2: It's not re-encoding correctly, it's simply re-encoding with the best compression you can get with mpeg2 (poor). How long is the actual video?
[00:41] <rusty0101> Alternatively you may be able to re-encode to dvd mpeg2 to a multi-layer dvd with capacities greater than 4.7 gig.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> mns2: Not re-encoding incorrectly I mean.
[00:42] <mns2> Trying to put two videos onto one dvd.
[00:42] <reisio> mns2: tell your software about both videos
[00:42] <mns2> DeVeDe has options for lowing resulting bitrate, but none of them do anything.
[00:42] <mns2> I did
[00:42] <reisio> well like I said, it's a huge PITA
[00:42] <reisio> if you insist on wasting your time with this, try using tovid
[00:43] <reisio> mns2: with the -ffmpeg option
[00:43] <themanwithnoface> reisio:  like maybe a macro?  :<
[00:43] <reisio> (that is, with ffmpeg, not subtracting ffmpeg)
[00:43] <mns2> Please stop telling me to not do what I'm doing? This is for a friend who does not have a computer and is technology illiterate.
[00:43] <reisio> themanwithnoface: ?
[00:44] <reisio> mns2: all the more reason to get them a smart device instead of spend time on a DVD
[00:44] <dr_willis> devede has worked well for me in the past
[00:44] <dr_willis> just don't try to fit 6 hours onto a DVD.    :)
[00:44] <RealDrProxy> Oi! Anyone have good resources or advice for build an Ubuntu fork or derivative? I've been working with ubuntu-builder but it seems half-assed.
[00:45] <dr_willis> !remaster
[00:45] <reisio> probably take you six hours just to get a usable copy
[00:45] <dr_willis> RealDrProxy:  that's always been a bit of a rough area
[00:45] <RealDrProxy> Thanks for the quick response guys.
[00:46] <RealDrProxy> That kinda sucks. I guess I'll stick to ubuntu-builder as that is the only thing that isn't completely outdated.
[00:46] <mns2> I will look at ToVid. Thank you. :)
[00:46] <RealDrProxy> Remastersys gave me issues when I first tried to use it. I think it bricked the dev box I was working off of.
[00:47] <reisio> you think you bricked?
[00:47] <dr_willis> brick-a-Barack.
[00:48] <tauntaun> Can't get rc script to trigger on boot. This is a cloud instance running at run level 2. Used the update-rc command. I've gotten this to work before; don't know why there's no joy today. Ideas?
[00:49] <dr_willis> i dident think ubuntu used runlevels like many distros.  use the upstart tools tauntaun . not the older sysv tools
[00:49] <dr_willis> !upstart
[00:50] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[00:50] <tauntaun> ok, thanks, I'll try it.
[00:50] <RealDrProxy> Bricked the OS at least. Remastersys borked a few things so I just re-imaged it.
[00:51] <thurstylark> how do I get ubuntu 10.04 to do a release upgrade?
[00:52] <reisio> thurstylark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes#From_10.04_LTS_to_12.04_LTS
[00:52] <thurstylark> reisio: 10-q
[00:52] <reisio> thurstylark: np m8
[00:54] <thurstylark> Ah. Only problem with this is that I need a command solution. It's a server
[00:55] <reisio> thurstylark: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[00:56] <daftykins> thurstylark: 'sudo do-release-upgrade' not working?
[01:00] <wguo> many people around here
[01:01] <wguo> hi
[01:03] <Guest91322> /msg dpkg guidelines
[01:04] <Telendrith> Hi, has anyone tried to load Ubuntu on a HP Envy Rove?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> !poll | Telendrith
[01:05] <Guest91322> [5~:l #testchan
[01:05] <thurstylark> daftykins: it wasn't because whatever build my vps provider was using didn't have update-manager-core installed. installed that, and now I'm just humming along.
[01:05] <reisio> wrong spammy factoid :p
[01:05] <thurstylark> daftykins: my main problem is that the latest release that said vps provider supports in a clean install is 11.04, so i have to update from 10.04 :P
[01:05] <reisio> Telendrith: probably someone has, does that help you? :p
[01:06] <Telendrith> Yea
[01:06] <reisio> great
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> still a poll none the less
[01:06] <daftykins> thurstylark: that's weird of them. you certainly don't want non-LTS
[01:07] <Telendrith> I was hoping to get some more info before I dumped a grand on a tablet - and it wasn't a poll question, it a hey, is  it compatible out of the box
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> Telendrith, might be info here in general, there are certified computers. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/HP/
[01:08] <Telendrith> wilee-nilee: Thanks, thats what I was looking for
[01:08] <reisio> Telendrith: is there only one model named 'rove'? I doubt it
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> Telendrith, Not a poll in your reasoning maybe but here it is. ;)
[01:11] <thurstylark> daftykins: Yep. 'tis why i will be updating before i do anything else
[01:12] <daftykins> thurstylark: excellent
[01:12] <Telendrith> Well, guess we'll find out of it will run ubuntu tomorrow \o/
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> Telendrith, You aware of the uefi stuff, I assume this has W8?
[01:15] <horrorxstory> im trying to install windows games on my ubuntu and i am unable to
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> horrorxstory, You using wine?
[01:16] <horrorxstory> yeah i have been trying
[01:16] <horrorxstory> it workd
[01:16] <horrorxstory> works
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> !details | horrorxstory
[01:16] <horrorxstory> i think it has to do with direct runtime
[01:16] <daftykins> what game, what happens, what what what? :)
[01:17] <horrorxstory> ok like wow for instance it completely installs and then when i go to run it, it tells me there is a problem with direct runtime
[01:18] <daftykins> horrorxstory: what does the wine website say to do?
[01:25] <Iared_Fergus> Hello everyone, Iared_Fergushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:25] <Yaesu> 'lo, I have a question, does anyone now a quick fix on how to enable the num lock 'before' login?
[01:28] <OerHeks> Yaesu, lots of answers @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/155679/how-to-enable-numlock-at-boot-time-for-login-screen
[01:29] <OerHeks> check your bios or use the numlockx option
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> help- I've been ddos'ed and I can't get up
[01:30]  * dr_willis jumps and down on wilee-nilee  delvering  CPR with his size 13 shoes...
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> Ah.thats much better, thanks. ;)
[01:31] <daftykins> i gotta wonder about those guys
[01:31] <daftykins> i mean, they never hang around for me to converse with :(
[01:36] <OerHeks> great, i have "empty updates"
[01:36] <OerHeks> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=14821
[01:38] <daftykins> OerHeks: but are you going to install? :)
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> OerHeks, I saw that yesterday runit from the cli.
[01:39]  * wilee-nilee whips out his tinfoil fedora to analyze the data
[01:40] <Noskcaj> What do i need to back up to keep my GPG key?
[01:40] <Noskcaj> During a re-install
[01:40] <OerHeks> install now does perform some updates, might be caused by pre-downloading the updates.
[01:40] <RealDrProxy> @Noskcaj
[01:40] <RealDrProxy> I believe you need to backup the .gpg folder in your home folder if I am not mistaken.
[01:41] <cff9> How much RAM would you give to Virtual Machine? I need XP to run on Ubuntu -
[01:41] <Noskcaj> ok
[01:41] <RealDrProxy> or .pgp, whatever it is
[01:41] <Yaesu> OerHeks, big thanks (Hartelijk Bedankt)
[01:41] <RealDrProxy> You could always just export the key
[01:41] <RealDrProxy> In the CLI
[01:41] <compdoc> cff9, two gigs if possible
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> cff9, regular install asks for a gig
[01:41] <RealDrProxy> *using the cli
[01:42] <babinlonston> Cant Update Showing Error , How to Clear the issue
[01:42] <cff9> @compdoc @wilnee-nilee > thanks ill try that now if i need more i add more :)
[01:42] <IdleOne> Noskcaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Backing_up_and_restoring_your_key_pair
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> !details > babinlonston
[01:43] <babinlonston> Using Ubuntu 13.04 , I cant Update using apt-get update or upgrade , Showing Error i think there is Some Wrong Repository please help me to get remove it and update
[01:43] <Noskcaj> thanks IdleOne. I've just copied the .gnupg folder, that seems easier
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Run in the terminal sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and use a pastebin for all the text
[01:44] <Hariwald_Gruffud> Hello everyone, Hariwald_Gruffudhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:44] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  ok
[01:45] <wilee-nilee>  [Hariwald_Gruffud] (~Hariwald_@187.171.199.249): Hariwald_Gruffud
[01:45] <gr33n7007h> Hariwald_Gruffud, You say that everytime you join
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, You might also run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and include it in the pastebin
[01:47] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  Sure its Showing Some Error let me give u output
[01:50] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: Not Moving more than 81 %
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Has this updated and upgraded before with no problems, and have you set a proxy...etc since?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> like changing the server or to ftp...etc
[01:52] <babinlonston> no proxy but i have configured Apt-cache ng fo cache for Virtual machines
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, This a virtual where the problem is?
[01:53] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  no no no the problem is in Base System , not in virtual machine
[01:53] <babinlonston> I have configured Apt cache ng for virtual machine
[01:54] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5994801/
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, is this in your sources list.  lonston@desktop:~$ ^C
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> lonston@desktop:~$ 5~
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> lonston@desktop:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  yes
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, What's that for, never seen anything like that.
[01:57] <babinlonston> What ? cant get u
[01:57] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  u cant see the paste ?
[01:58] <IdleOne> babinlonston: remove those 3 lines from sources
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, I see the paste, I have never seen anything like that in a sources list, is there a reason.
[01:58] <cff9> bye all - have nice weekend
[01:58] <babinlonston> IdleOne: which three lines
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, The ones I just posted.
[01:58] <IdleOne> babinlonston: the ones with lonston@desktop
[01:59] <IdleOne> remove them completely
[01:59] <babinlonston> oh
[01:59] <IdleOne> make sure you save the changes and then run sudo apt-get update
[02:00] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee:  no its While i copied it came ., but not its in Source list
[02:01] <thurstylark> I'm setting up a vps, and my provider only will support clean installs of ubuntu server up to 11.04. What method do you recommend to get me to 12.04?
[02:02] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: this is Source list just now  i copied and pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/5994823/
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, If your sources list is clean, I would change mirrors, and medibuntu is eol
[02:02] <Ben64> thurstylark: get a new vps provider
[02:02] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: how can i change it guide me
[02:03] <IdleOne> babinlonston: now you have root@desktop:/home/lonston# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <IdleOne> root@desktop:/home/lonston# cat /etc/apt/sources.list in there
[02:04] <babinlonston> IdleOne:  its just coming while im copy that but its not in source list sir
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Medibuntu is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d use ppa-purge to remove it, changing the server is in softwrae sources gotten to easiest from the software center edit.
[02:04] <IdleOne> babinlonston: I don't see how that is possible.
[02:05] <BunkMonkey_> Hey all
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Follow IdleOne they are correct.
[02:06] <babinlonston> IdleOne: :( but its not showing while im opening using vim
[02:07] <IdleOne> babinlonston: Then I don't understand how those 2 lines got pasted there in the middle of the file
[02:07] <IdleOne> babinlonston: what exactly is the problem you are having?
[02:09] <babinlonston> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5994836/
[02:09] <maxiPad3gs> I want to use GIMP photo editor but it saves my pictures as .xcf files.. thats okay i guess right but how do i then convert them back to .jpg files? is there a app like format factory that i can use for Ubuntu? 13.04 on a thinkpad x220.
[02:10] <trism> maxiPad3gs: File/Export
[02:10] <trism> maxiPad3gs: in gimp
[02:10] <IdleOne> babinlonston: that looks good, what error are you getting when you try to update?
[02:10] <babinlonston> IdleOne:  i cant update , while updating its Showing some error and not getting update or i cant install software's from Ubuntu software centre
[02:10] <daftykins> it even tells you to do this ^
[02:10] <poee> is there any app that logs ip's that I connect to?
[02:10] <IdleOne> babinlonston: What error exactly?
[02:11] <babinlonston> One Red Colour ! mark in Notification Area in top Showing ur Update is outdated
[02:11] <daftykins> IdleOne: KoshDzis is another of those private message abusers. could you resolve please?
[02:11] <IdleOne> babinlonston: ok, open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <IdleOne> KoshDzis: Please don't bother users with silliness.
[02:12] <maxiPad3gs> trism: yep thanks
[02:12] <babinlonston> IdleOne: Done and its under Process
[02:12] <IdleOne> daftykins: come to the ops chan please
[02:14] <IdleOne> daftykins: seems to have solved itself
[02:14] <maxiPad3gs> my USB 3.0 is usually not working on my thinkpad x220 running 13.04.. if i reboot it runs for a second and then reverts to 2.0 speeds. Is it from running Conky desktop monitor theme?
[02:14] <daftykins> -_-
[02:15] <babinlonston> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5994848/
[02:16] <IdleOne> babinlonston: ok try chaging your download server see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Download_Server
[02:17] <IdleOne> babinlonston: right now you are using glug.nith.ac.in, try a different server in your country or use the main server.
[02:17] <maxiPad3gs> nevermind about USB 3.0 on the thinkpad. it seems tht this issue will not be fixed any time soon according to Ubuntu forums sorry..
[02:19] <babinlonston> IdleOne:  ok let me try it and come , but while im changing it it cant change asking to click revert , if i click it coming again to Present server what now having , how can i change it in command line
[02:20] <IdleOne> babinlonston: when it asks to revert, don't revert
[02:20] <maxiPad3gs> so aside from the USB 3.0 not working on the Thinkpad x220 .. the all in one card reader does not work wither. when SD card is inserted . nothing happens. and i have no clue how to manually mount this nor does it seem logical to have to do this everytime I insert a SD card no?
[02:21] <babinlonston> oh ok
[02:22] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: mount   #What does that say?
[02:23] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: tail -f /var/log/syslog  #Unplug and plug it back in and see what is says there.
[02:23] <maxiPad3gs> usr13: i have no idea what you just said sorry
[02:24] <dr_feelgud> hi all
[02:25] <babinlonston> IdleOne: :) if im not clicking on Revert its Working Fine Thanks For your help Sir :)
[02:26] <IdleOne> welcome
[02:26] <maxiPad3gs> well at least Firefox works because nothing else does.. Chromium crashes everytime I open it. soooo... yeah .. cheers. .I hope Saucy salamader is better
[02:26] <RealDrProxy>  /anti-unity
[02:26] <RealDrProxy> 12.04 'til I die. Or at least 'til support is dead.
[02:26] <babinlonston> going to office times up take care all :-h
[02:27] <RealDrProxy> Ez
[02:27] <xmetal> no matter what OS its on .. i am not a fan of Chrome-based browsers
[02:27] <Danny> hi
[02:27] <Danny> i have a problem
[02:27] <maxiPad3gs> so in other words I have to be Linux certified just to figure out how to use my SD card reader?
[02:27] <xmetal> all the sites and articles i reads talk about how fast they are .. even when i get on high speed .. they seem slower to me
[02:27] <cfhowlett> !details|Danny,
[02:27] <daftykins> maxiPad3gs: what ubuntu is this?
[02:27] <IdleOne> !ot | xmetal
[02:28] <Danny> my internal sound not working ubuntu 13.4
[02:28] <maxiPad3gs> daftykins: 13.04 broken ringtail
[02:28] <Danny> i plug in head fones it works
[02:28] <xmetal> lol ... go off topic for one post and that happens
[02:28] <xmetal> sorry
[02:28] <Danny> its sound max driver
[02:28] <daftykins> maxiPad3gs: there's definitely something on these cards? :) and this is a laptop?
[02:28] <Danny> how do i get my internal sound working
[02:28] <Danny> in ternmail
[02:29] <maxiPad3gs> daftykins: wow
[02:29] <Amau> Hi how are you?
[02:29] <cartusia> is there any difference when you install from synaptic and software center?
[02:29] <Danny> any one know how fix this
[02:29] <cartusia> in terms of updates etc...
[02:29] <xangua> cartusia: no
[02:29] <cartusia> kk thx
[02:29] <xangua> cartusia: if you install packages from repositories at least
[02:30] <daftykins> maxiPad3gs: what's the wow at?
[02:30] <maxiPad3gs> @thinkpad x220 with a sd card full of pictures
[02:30] <Danny> how can i get internal sound working
[02:30] <Danny> sound max
[02:31] <Guest14600> Hey people, I need to install my built it sd card reader driver, can anyone guide me through it please?
[02:31] <Danny> i wanna watch youtube vedios i cant no sound
[02:31] <Danny> some one gonna help me
[02:32] <cfhowlett> !patience|Danny,
[02:32] <Danny> ok
[02:33] <Danny> ?????
[02:33] <scarecrow_> hello i have a phpmyadmin for ubuntu server question
[02:33] <maxiPad3gs> Guest14600: there is no such thing. an operating system is designed to load the module on boot. if it does not then .. well. maybe someone here can help you because i have the same issue.. what is your make model of your pc and what OS are you running
[02:33] <fire_exit> Hi, any one here knows where gnome-ppp stores its configuration settigns?
[02:34] <scarecrow_> Im getting Access denied for user 'roo'@'localhost'
[02:34] <maxiPad3gs> Guest14600: OS=Distro of Ubuntu
[02:35] <scarecrow_> It doesnt complete the phpmyadmin install
[02:35] <Guest14600> maxiPad3gs: 10.04
[02:35] <maxiPad3gs> Guest14600: unless you can modify your dev rules most likely like me you will have to manually mount that Module every time oyu rebot or log off
[02:36] <Guest14600> maxiPad3gs: How do I mount it??
[02:36] <acerone> Hi there Ubuntu friends, i have a little prob on my Acer Aspire One AOA110 (ZG5). I had the old Netbook remix, so now after a year or two i figured out it needed a update.. first prob netbook remix is no more. its now build in to regular Ubuntu(?) so i dl 13.04 put the stick in the usb, start to install.. it needs 8.6Gb.. well theres my prob this Aspire One has the 8gb SSD msata. What can i do?
[02:36] <maxiPad3gs> Linux Plus certification required
[02:36] <scarecrow_> getting access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
[02:36] <scarecrow_> phpmyadmin
[02:36] <cfhowlett> acerone, xubuntu or lubuntu are what you want
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Guest14600, The 10.04 desktop install is end of life.
[02:36] <cfhowlett> acerone, both optimized for low spec and older machine.
[02:37] <maxiPad3gs> Guest14600: you have to learn the terminal and Linux commands for maual mount of module..
[02:37] <acerone> they will fit?
[02:37] <scarecrow_> helloo?
[02:37] <cfhowlett> acerone  what's your storage?
[02:37] <Guest14600> maxiPad3gs: I know enough
[02:37] <cfhowlett> scarecrow_, yes we see you.
[02:37] <maxiPad3gs> Guest14600: then maybe you can help me lol
[02:38] <Guest14600> maxiPad3gs: We may be able to help eachother
[02:38] <scarecrow_> having an issue installing myphpadmin on ubuntu server
[02:38] <maxiPad3gs> well i am thinkpad x220 13.04 bingtail and my module isnt loading i guess=plugs in SD card nothing happens
[02:38] <acerone> cfhowlett: my acer has 8gb msata and a 8gb sd card. thats all
[02:38] <cfhowlett> !ubuntuserver| scareycrow_
[02:39] <cfhowlett> acerone, more than enough for lubuntu/xubuntu
[02:39] <acerone> cfhowlett: awsome, ill try em out, thanks for help
[02:40] <cfhowlett> acerone, have fun.  be safe
[02:40] <dr_willis> hmmmm
[02:40] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: Fully updated?
[02:40] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <acerone> cfhowlett: i allways have fun when i thinker with my pcs ;)  bye bye
[02:41] <maxiPad3gs> usr13: yes
[02:41] <cfhowlett> maxiPad3gs, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:41] <xmetal> lol i like saying lxde, kde, or xfce, instead of all this *buntu stuff
[02:41] <xmetal> :P
[02:41] <maxiPad3gs> cfhowlett: wait one
[02:41] <dr_willis> some card reader chipsets are not fully supported by the kernel. sadly.
[02:41] <Guest14600> Using lshw, how do I know if a driver is installed correctly??
[02:41] <scarecrow__> ubuntu server is empty
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, Yet you run a ubuntu derivative, hmmmmm
[02:42] <xmetal> i wonder if i need graphics drivers for my new install of a new distro  ... the new version seems slow (lagging, video-wise) sometimes
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:42] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: If you look at the output of   tail -f /var/log/syslog   maybe it will give you/us a clue.
[02:42] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: As you plug it in.
[02:42] <scarecrow__> can anyone help with a phpmyadmin install problem?
[02:43]  * xmetal denies that and gets pack of Mints
[02:43] <Guest14600> scarecrow__: Try #php
[02:43]  * xmetal whistles innocently
[02:43] <magg> hello
[02:43] <maxiPad3gs> usr13: "the output of"=meaning after i run that as a command in terminal?
[02:43] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: yes
[02:43] <maxiPad3gs> usr13: ok wait one please i am runinig those other task first please
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> heh
[02:44] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: That's ok, we have plenty of time. (We are open 24/7)
[02:44] <Guest14600> usr13: lol
[02:44] <magg> any mac users here? I'm wondering if you guys recommend to install rEFInd. When I installed ubuntu I installed rEFIt on OSX.
[02:48] <maxiPad3gs> http://pastebin.com/FxG4tLe7 output of tail -f /var/etc...
[02:49] <maxiPad3gs> it looks like it should be working no..? let me reboot and come right bak and try loading it again yes?
[02:50] <maxiPad3gs> be right back reboot time
[02:52] <Xbuntu_master> Boa noite
[02:52] <Xbuntu_master> pessoal
[02:52] <usr13> someone tell maxiPad3gs that it appears that it may be mounting his device.  "Mounted /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /media/mopad/8765-4321"  (from:  http://pastebin.com/FxG4tLe7 )
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:53] <usr13> maxiPad3gs:  So look at /media/mopad/8765-4321 and see
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> any alternative window managers if lubuntu doesnt run smooth on an older laptop?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, xfce4
[02:55] <usr13> lotuspsychje: There is xubuntu
[02:55] <maxiPad3gs> Issue resolved: thinkpad x220 13.04 boring ringtail sd card reader module load on boot/log in sucessful with a transfer rate of 9.2 MB/sec...
[02:55] <usr13> lotuspsychje: you can install xubuntu-desktop
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: xubuntu has same performance on this laptop, not realy smoother
[02:56] <usr13> maxiPad3gs: Okeydokey.  Glad you let us know.
[02:57] <xmetal> i think xfce and lxde are two of the lightest (not counting any commandline only  DE's that may be out there)
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, A whole bunch of lighter desktops, and distros that come with them.
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: how about enlightment?
[02:59] <xmetal> i will be honest .. have not tried that
[02:59] <xmetal> that sounds familiar though
[02:59] <maxiPad3gs> If you have a Linux background Lubuntu and Xubuntu Kubuntu are all nice. but nautilus and Unity are key for all of my buddys ... we need those features=ex mac book users all of us..
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> !info enlightment
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> !info e3
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> forgot packagename
[03:00] <IdleOne> e17 ?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> ah yes
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> !info e17
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> IdleOne: tnx!
[03:00] <IdleOne> sure thing
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> would e17 be lighter then lxde?
[03:01] <xvicarious> Hey, I've had a little trouble in getting grub set up properly.  When I installed it said grub had failed.  So I booted from grub recovery and tried running boot-repair.  I think the problem is I have an EFI parition on my SSD, and by boot is on one of my two HHDs.  I have grub-efi installed, but I can't seem to get it to work.  It complains about unknown filesystem when it boots and goes to recovery.
[03:01] <xmetal> hmm i may give that a try
[03:01] <xvicarious> Anyone have any idea?
[03:01] <xmetal> :)
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: oldskool :p you will like it
[03:01] <usr13> lotuspsychje: How old is this PC?  (What processor and how much RAM?)
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Try fluxbox or blackbox
[03:02] <xmetal> only DE i dont care for is Unity honestly ... I like alot of the DE's i have tried "in thier own way"
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> much ,ore configuring though
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> more*
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> usr13: its a compac with 512 ram with older grafix card, both lubuntu and xubuntu dont run very smooth
[03:03] <Guest89278> hello everyone hows it going? I am running Ubuntu 13.04 on a Dell N4010 laptop. I have an F key that controls screen brightness and it does not work, and when I go into the brightness settings I can move the bar all I want and nothing changes. When I switch to Windows it works just fine. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: ok tnx ill try fluxbox from lubuntu maybe
[03:03] <xmetal> sounds like the pc i had that just died only when i got it i upgraded the ram from 512 to 768
[03:03] <xmetal> old compaq
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | xvicarious
[03:03] <maxiPad3gs> In three years could half of the current mac book users be running Ubuntu 15.04 on their Thinkpad's or Asus's Dell's etc....?
[03:03] <dr_willis> Guest89278:  check the exact make laptop on askubuntu.com and the forums. there may be a known worrk around or fix to get it going
[03:04] <maxiPad3gs> 2 years
[03:04] <maxiPad3gs> sorry Apple just kidding .. later geeks thanks for the help...
[03:04] <xvicarious> I made sure I booted the CD in UEFI mode, and yet it still fails.
[03:05] <Perez> some backtrack user here?
[03:05] <xmetal> brb
[03:05] <dr_willis> Perez:  backtrack has its own support channels and web site
[03:05] <xangua> !backtrack | Perez
[03:05] <xmetal> have to reboot into a distro (shhs @ willie) and get some package info
[03:05] <Perez> hmm.
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> xvicarious: when did it goe wrong for you?
[03:05] <Perez> Thanks. :D
[03:05] <Perez> I Use Ubuntu too. :D
[03:06] <xmetal> hmm that reminds me .. .i wonder if there is (no so much a DE, but a "suite of packages" to install backtrack packages on other ubuntu-based distros
[03:06] <xmetal> :)
[03:06] <dr_willis> xmetal:  i think they also have their own repos and kenrel versions
[03:06] <xvicarious> It went wrong while installing GRUB, it just told me that it failed to install to /target/.  So I tried to reboot (grub recovery mind you) and ran boot-repair but it failed.  Then I tried manually installing GRUB and still nothing.
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: i asked the same question last time, manual packages install was best option as answer
[03:07] <xmetal> true true @ manual iunstall
[03:07] <xmetal> -u
[03:07] <xmetal> anyway .. bbl
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> xvicarious: you got dualboot on that ssd? (what was previous Os)?
[03:08] <xvicarious> lotuspsychje:  I have Windows 7 on my SSD (with the EFI partition on the SSD) and Ubuntu is on one of my other hard drives.
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> xvicarious: did you try an update-grub yet?
[03:09] <xvicarious> lotuspsychje: no I haven't but I ran a dist-upgrade and it did one.  I can try one irght now.
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> xvicarious: so ubuntu doesnt run from your ssd?
[03:10] <xvicarious> lotuspsychje: no it doesn't.
[03:10] <cartusia> I keep having some serious issues with my mouse cursor, I have already attempted to read askubuntu.com but nothing there is helpful in so far as this particular problem. Initially I thought that it might have been a Theming mouse cursor problem, and that was knocked off when I switched to different desktops. So right now I am not entirely sure where to take it from :( . Could it be because of some package that I installed? Or maybe so
[03:10] <cartusia> me settings I accidentally tweaked?
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> xvicarious: it might be usefull to pastebin your grub in chat here
[03:11] <dr_willis> cartusia:  you may want to state what the actual problem is. :)    and what its doing warong.
[03:11] <dr_willis> wrong
[03:11] <xvicarious> my grub.cfg lotuspsychje?
[03:11] <cartusia> mouse cursor I already said that
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !grub2 | xvicarious
[03:11] <dr_willis> cartusia:  and what is wrong with it?
[03:11] <cartusia> it doesnt show
[03:11] <dr_willis> you mean its invisuble?
[03:11] <cartusia> only in a few spots does it show
[03:12] <cartusia> but with all kde programs it does not show
[03:12] <dr_willis> are you goin gto tell us which spots.. or do we have to keep guessing and playing 20 questions
[03:12] <cartusia> some Gnome GUI programs show a little
[03:12] <cartusia> well its hard to describe because it is sometimes very specific.
[03:13] <dr_willis> so the mouse cursor is invisiable over ALL kde apps? and shows sometimes for gnome apps..  and only then in specific locations of such apps?
[03:13] <cartusia> the mouse cursor on some other desktops works perfectly fine with the desktop like lxde I think (can't recall)
[03:13] <xvicarious> lotuspsychje: I don't quite understand what you're asking by pastebin'ing GRUB still...  the !grub2 didn't say much..
[03:13] <cartusia> yes its super weird :(
[03:13] <dr_willis> cartusia:  you have tried making a new user and seen if it works properly for them?
[03:14] <cartusia> so right now I am stuck using unity with pressing ctrl (and when I move the mouse it shows where the mouse cursor is at)
[03:14] <cartusia> hmmm haven't thought of that let me see about that.
[03:14] <dr_willis> differnt apps can use difernt mouse themes from what ive seen int he past. if the theme of files are gone/moved then it shows nothing.
[03:15] <cartusia> ohh I see
[03:15] <dr_willis> i elive you can use the xset command to set a specific mouse cursor also. (it might not have been  xset, but xsetroot, been years since ive ude that)
[03:16] <xvicarious> lotuspsychje: I'm just assuming this is what you want: http://pastebin.com/f6snbwEw
[03:17] <cartusia> alright I am reading the man page for xset
[03:19] <dr_willis> might have been xsetroot
[03:19] <dr_willis> X cursors where origianly taken from 'font' files. ;) i recall.. but with the new desktops they get them in som eother way. but the old methoid to set them i think stillworks.
[03:22] <mini> hello everyone
[03:23] <dr_feelgud> hi mini
[03:23] <Perez> hello mini
[03:23] <dr_willis> some neat info on X cursor themes (not ubuntu specific however but i bet a lot of it still applies) -->  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cursor_Themes#Using_X_resources
[03:23] <mini> i am trying to format a used harddrive which i placed in an enclosure but the computer does not see it
[03:24] <dr_willis> mini:  what is not seeing it specifically?
[03:24] <dr_willis> fdisk, gparted, the bios?
[03:25] <mini> i know the boot up has been corrupt, i want to use it as an external drive
[03:25] <dr_feelgud> mini, maybe the hard drive is disbaled in bios
[03:25] <dr_willis> mini:  so does fdisk -l, gparted, or  'sudo blkid' show the drive?
[03:26] <dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l'
[03:26] <mini> as an external drive the computer does not see it
[03:26] <mini> so if i place in in a computer as the main drive can it still be fixed?
[03:27] <dr_willis> mini:  so does any of the following commands  'sudo fdisk -l' , gparted, or  'sudo blkid' show the drive?    <-----
[03:27] <dr_willis> 'comptuer does not see it' can be interperted several differnt ways
[03:27] <mini> 1 sec
[03:27] <mini> I am actually new to ubuntu an learning those commands
[03:27] <mini> this is what appears >>
[03:27] <mini> /dev/sr0: LABEL="Ubuntu 13.04 i386" TYPE="iso9660"
[03:27] <mini> /dev/sda1: UUID="8d08ca7c-2f22-4c21-97fb-240d6c45ebb9" TYPE="ext4"
[03:27] <FloodBot1> mini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:27] <mini> /dev/sda5: UUID="3191dd19-b6fc-4de0-afc5-52a9b4dde593" TYPE="swap"
[03:27] <dr_willis> sda  seems to be your linux install.. there any other sdX entries?
[03:29] <mini> no
[03:29] <mini> i entered fdisk and does nothing
[03:30] <Rajzi> Hello!?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> Rajzi, greetings
[03:32] <Rajzi> :-)
[03:33] <Amau_Plus_Plus> Hi?
[03:33] <dr_feelgud> mini, if the drive is not detected by bios can you check if hardrive isnot spinning/poweringup?
[03:33] <mini> the external drive is connected via usb, it is a windows hard drive but i want to make it an external drive to save files
[03:33] <dr_willis> mini:  the command was 'sudo fdisk -l'  not 'fdisk'
[03:33] <dr_willis> mini:   untill one of the disk partioning tools shows the drive.. you are not going to be doing squat with it...
[03:34] <waterlite> hi all
[03:34] <steamboat> Anyone want to help me install ubuntu without erasing windows 8? Every time I start the installation ubuntu can't detect any installed operating systems.
[03:34] <dr_willis> if it w as a windows drive then it show up with the filesystem type  of 'ntfs'
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !uefi|steamboat,
[03:34] <Amau_Plus_Plus> Hi waterlite how are you?
[03:35] <steamboat> Even though gparted sees all the drives
[03:35] <Amau_Plus_Plus> alguien que hable espaol?
[03:35] <dr_willis> steamboat:  #1 thing to do would be sure you have made (or own) a restore dvd set - to restore your windows system. in case somthing screws it up.
[03:35] <cfhowlett> !es|Amau_Plus_Plus,
[03:36] <Rajzi> Steamboat try to select the partition manually
[03:36] <ohsnap> sup noobuntu
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Amau_Plus_Plus, This is an english channel you might want #ubuntu-es
[03:36] <ohsnap> i have a quick question
[03:36] <ohsnap> would anyone like to rub duck sauce on my nipples?
[03:36] <Amau_Plus_Plus> thank's
[03:37] <Amau_Plus_Plus> :-)
[03:37] <dr_willis> ohsnap:  wrong channel.. you want #foreveralone
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !ops|ohsnap,
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> lol
[03:37] <steamboat> I've created a restore disc so I can't screw up too badly, and I can select the partition manually
[03:38] <dr_willis> steamboat:  could be you need to resize, or delete a partion so you have some unallocated space for the installer to detect
[03:39] <dr_willis> ive seen windows machines come wtth 4 primary partions. thats the limit for the mbr type disk layout. so you cant make any more partions
[03:39] <Rajzi> select the partiton  make it root
[03:40] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, you can make unlimited(?) logical partitions but only 4 primary primary partitions
[03:40] <steamboat> If I resize the windows partition from the ubuntu installer will it screw with the data (assuming I leave enough space)?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, This is windows 8 right, use its disk manager to resize.
[03:41] <steamboat> wilee-nilee, resize from inside windows?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, yes it works nicely, and reboot it to so it runs its auto chkdsk.
[03:42] <steamboat> ok
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, you then have an unallocated space for ubuntu.
[03:43] <steamboat> ok, reboooting the windows computer
[03:43] <hylian> I want to set up dual boot with win 7 32 bit / Ubuntu 12.04. will grub cause problems with win 7's boot system?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, I would image/clone it as well, just to be safe no matter what you install.
[03:43] <cfhowlett> hylian, shouldn 't.  I've got 12.04 and win7 ... no issues
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> hylian, Should not grub will boot windows.
[03:44] <hylian> ok thanks cfhowlett and wilee-nilee.
[03:44] <steamboat> I've made a recovery disc, but unfortunately I don't have a usb large enough to clone the OEM partition
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, I would consider what you would do if you brick the windows.
[03:46] <steamboat> wilee-nilee, ubuntu is my primary os, but I'd like to be able to play games on new system. Not having ubuntu much worse than not having windows :)
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, Bad reasoning but do what you must.
[03:48] <jeetpei> !help
[03:49] <cfhowlett> !details|jeetpei,
[03:49] <whoever> hi all
[03:49] <cfhowlett> whoever, greetings
[03:50] <waterlite> Hi all
[03:50] <whoever> cfhowlett: hows it goin
[03:50] <cfhowlett> waterlite, greetings
[03:50] <jeetpei> my question is is samba's smbc_new_context multi thread safe ?
[03:50] <whoever> wallzero: hows it goin
[03:50] <cfhowlett> whoever, no worries.  what's your ubuntu issue?
[03:51] <whoever> cfhowlett: none , i am here to help just as you are
[03:51] <whoever> just thaugh i'd take some time and greet the channel
[03:51] <vic2r> Hi gudday everyone. jsty want to ask solution because i got problem with pidgin i successfully installed it using apt-get install pidgin but it auto close when i open it. any idea what's wrong with it. hope to find solution from u guys. :-)
[03:52] <whoever>  vic2r do you have rights to it? try it in cli
[03:53] <vic2r> yup i try to uninstall it already and reinstall but still the same problem
[03:53] <whoever> vic2r: is there an error
[03:54] <whoever> vlt: if not then there isn't much we can do for you
[03:54] <vic2r> no error but it auto close
[03:55] <Ben64> yeah we got that, try running it from a terminal
[03:56] <whoever> vic2r: the only thing i can think of is tha you are missing some depencancy, although doesn't seem lickly-
[03:56] <Ben64> also would help to know the ubuntu version
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> vic2r, A uninstall does not remove the config, so you have the same thing basically.
[03:57] <vic2r> i did the clean uninstall using apt-get --purge remove
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> ah, the rest if the story. ;)
[03:57] <dr_willis> vic2r:  that will NOT clean out messed up configs in the users home.
[03:57] <vic2r> oh ic.
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> true
[03:57] <vic2r> i thought it will
[03:57] <dr_willis> vic2r:  test with a newly made. and/or clean out the pogin config files in the users home. run pigin form a terminal. look for errors
[03:58] <dr_willis> vic2r:  it would be a disaster if apt-get removed configs from the users home
[03:58] <dr_willis> you remove/reinstall firefox...  and poof all your old ff settings are gone for all users on the system.. that would not be good.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> I keep mine numbered for just such an occasion
[03:59] <dr_willis> i keep mine backed up to my U1 account. ;)
[03:59] <vic2r> let me try to clean config. il update u what will happen
[04:03] <rhobot> nigger
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !ops|rhobot,
[04:07] <ffio> when runining sudo apt-get install, i am getting error -> Errors were encountered while processing: E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  where can i check what was the exact error and what process caused it ?
[04:10] <kasad> I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.04 from flashdrive, setup starts, but then it says that it can't mount cdrom
[04:11] <kasad> I've found somewhere that there is workaround that you can mount flash drive partition as /cdrom and setup would continue
[04:11] <kasad> I'm just not sure how to figure out which is correct partition to mount as /cdrom
[04:11] <reisio> kasad: why such an old version?
[04:12] <kasad> not my choice, but has to be replica of existing server
[04:12] <kasad> and I don't have working cdrom so it has to be from thumbdrive
[04:14] <tgm4883> kasad, just for reference, 8.04 is completely unsupported now
[04:14] <tgm4883> as in it gets no more security updates (or any updates)
[04:15] <kasad> tgm4883: I know
[04:15] <reisio> kasad: replica?
[04:15] <kasad> I just need a way out of this for now
[04:15] <reisio> what's the problem?
[04:15] <kasad> it has to be exact same system
[04:16] <reisio> why not just copy the existing system, then?
[04:16] <kasad> I can't it's remote and it's not possible atm
[04:17] <kasad> but I have to get 8.04 LTS working together with specific plesk version (not my choice it's a request)
[04:17] <tgm4883> kasad, you could try just doing a symlink, but I think that your reasons for 8.04 may not be fully understood
[04:17] <tgm4883> wait, plesk?
[04:18] <tgm4883> as in, the web server control panel?
[04:18] <kasad> tgm4883: yes unfortunately, I don't get any say in the matter
[04:18] <reisio> kasad: why isn't it possible?
[04:18] <reisio> and if it's going to be possible later why not just wait
[04:18] <tgm4883> kasad, who are you doing this for, and tell them they are an idiot
[04:19] <kasad> reisio: because I do not have access to the machine atm
[04:19] <tgm4883> kasad, I would, under no circumstances, put an unsupported OS of any type on a public web server
[04:19] <kasad> tgm4883: symlink to what
[04:19] <reisio> kasad: how do you hope to have an exact replica without access
[04:19] <tgm4883> kasad, no, I'm not playing any part in you putting an unsupported web server on the internet
[04:20] <kasad> when I try to mount find cdrom I get " failed to retrieve the preconfiguration file, and it looks for file://cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed which is nowhere to be found on mounted drives
[04:20] <kasad> reisio: I have the list
[04:21] <reisio> kasad: list?
[04:21] <droop> i downloaded an rpm file for my printer drivers. the manager opened the file and now i have a folder. how can i install?
[04:21] <kasad> reisio: of os and services I need to set up
[04:22] <kasad> tgm4883: it isn't even going to be online afaik
[04:22] <rypervenche> kasad: What version of Plesk is this?
[04:23] <tgm4883> kasad, yea, I don't see why you need plesk for an offline web server....
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> droop, Ubuntu does not use rpm's are you sure you even need this?
[04:23] <kasad> lemme check
[04:23] <kasad> plesk 9.5.4
[04:24] <kasad> tgm4883: I do not need it, I just need to make sure it's working as requested
[04:24] <rypervenche> kasad: That's still quite old. They're on 11.0.9, even higher than that.
[04:24] <kasad> it's to do with some intranet app that I know nothing about not I care to
[04:25] <tgm4883> kasad, the person that hired you knows this is an unsupported server?
[04:25] <kasad> yes
[04:25] <droop> wilee-nilee: ya. i looked up the website and it has the linux drivers i need. i tried installing by just using ubuntu but it wont work. maybe im doing it wrong. i figured ill give it a try. It gives deb, rpm, or tar.gz
[04:26] <kasad> they need to "salvage" something old and scary (it's scary for me as long as it involves plesk and ages old ubuntu)
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> droop, Have you seen if they are in the ubuntu repos by running the printer app?
[04:26] <kasad> I didn't had opportunity to take a look at application
[04:26] <tgm4883> kasad, sorry, I just want to make sure I understand this correctly. The person that hired you for this job (it's a contract i'm assuming), knows that the OS they want is unsupported, and hired someone that doesn't know what a symlink is to do this?
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> droop, A deb would be what you use.
[04:27] <tgm4883> this seems like a very very bad thing
[04:27] <tgm4883> oh, and also the cdrom on that computer is broke
[04:27] <rypervenche> win
[04:27] <kasad> tgm4883: yeap
[04:27] <droop> wilee-nilee:deb? ok. ill try both. the repos and then deb. thank you.
[04:27] <tgm4883> which I'm assuming this server is some repurposed desktop system sitting under someones desk
[04:28] <tgm4883> kasad, you don't happen to live in Oregon do you?
[04:28] <kasad> tgm4883: I know what a symlink is, but I don't have idea where/which is usb partition that I need to mount or symlink because I can't find anything related
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, goes full Carnac. ;)
[04:28] <kasad> nope, other side of the planet more or less
[04:28] <tgm4883> kasad, ok good
[04:28] <rypervenche> Montenegro
[04:29] <prappl93> How can I tell which /dev device my DVD drive is?
[04:30] <rypervenche> prappl93: ls -l /dev/cdrom
[04:30] <TLoFP> How do you redirect a video stream to file while still displaying it?
[04:31] <TLoFP> I have been having problems with this for weeks now, google has not helped me (tee doesn't seem to do the trick)
[04:31] <kasad> anyhow, any advice on how to figure out where are the files are need,  because I sure can't find them
[04:32] <prappl93> rypervenche: It's linking to sr0, and when I try using that, it says "/dev/cdrom: read-only file system"
[04:32] <rypervenche> prappl93: Yeah, what are you trying to do with it?
[04:32] <prappl93> rypervenche: Trying to use dd to write an image to a disc
[04:33] <rypervenche> prappl93: It sounds like the disk isn't blank.
[04:33] <prappl93> rypervenche: It is a blank DVD, just took it out of the package, doesn't have anything written to it yet.
[04:34] <ubulost> Does the phrase "no you have Asian Flu" mean anything to anyone.  It showed up in terminal in newly installed Mint
[04:34] <babinlonston1> How to create a ISO file from Ubuntu Disc ? Now i have inserted Ubuntu Disc in my Drive , Now i want to create a ISO file of that , How can i do
[04:34] <rypervenche> prappl93: What's the command that you're running?
[04:34] <prappl93> dd if=filetowrite of=/dev/sr0 or of=/dev/cdrom
[04:35] <grimeton> hi
[04:35] <prappl93> Prefaced by sudo, of course.
[04:35] <grimeton> somebody in here tried to install ubuntu 13.04 server inside virtual box?
[04:35] <babinlonston1> oh thanks
[04:35] <Ben64> prappl93: fairly sure that will never work
[04:35] <prappl93> babinlonston1: My response was to someone else.
[04:36] <babinlonston1> prappl93: :( oh not for me
[04:36] <gr33n7007h> prappl93, put your DVD in and run the command mount
[04:36] <Ben64> babinlonston1: switch the "if" and "of" of that command and it should work for what you want to do
[04:36] <gr33n7007h> to see where it mounts
[04:37] <babinlonston1> Ben64: ok
[04:38] <babinlonston1> Ben64: dd of=/media/Ubuntu-Server\ 12.04\ LTS\ amd64/ if=/dev/tmp/ubuntusiso Show Error
[04:38] <droop> wilee-nilee: ubuntu had the drivers. now i try to find the network printer and it doesnt find it
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> droop, Not sure there myself.
[04:39] <cartusia> I use freebsd, does anyone know the equivalent in Linux for Jails?
[04:39] <cartusia> just wondering
[04:39] <cartusia> if there is such a thing
[04:39] <cartusia> or if FBSD took it from Linux who knows >.<
[04:40] <Ben64> babinlonston1: if = input, of = output
[04:40] <Ben64> babinlonston1: and you're going to want the device, not the mountpoint
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston1, By the way you can do the same with brasero.
[04:42] <babinlonston1> dd: opening `/dev/cdrom': Read-only file system
[04:42] <babinlonston1> wilee-nilee:  u here
[04:43] <babinlonston1> oh ok but i want to know in command line cos im going it in other ubuntu server
[04:43] <grimeton> extracting a linux image feels like installing a service pack
[04:43] <Ben64> babinlonston1: again, of = the output, and if = the input
[04:43] <ubulost> grimeton: I've got 12.04 server in virtual box
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> I be
[04:43] <dr_willis> i dont think you can use dd to ;write; to a  optical drive.
[04:44] <dr_willis> at least ive never seen that done befor
[04:44] <Ben64> dr_willis: there are sort of ways, but not how anyone here would like it
[04:44] <dr_willis> !info wodim
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> they want an iso
[04:44] <babinlonston1> Ben64: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/ubuntu this ok i think im i right cos its Creating i think
[04:44] <babinlonston1> Ben64: :)
[04:44] <dr_willis> you can use dd to MAKE a iso image from a cdrom drive.. ;) thats easy
[04:45] <dr_willis> babinlonston1:  in the future use a bs=4M  option.. to make it work much faster
[04:45] <babinlonston1> dr_willis:  oh ok fine let me try it too after first one getting finish
[04:46] <dr_willis> that first one may take a VERY long time..
[04:46] <dr_willis> how big is the disk you are imageing?
[04:46] <babinlonston1> -rw-rw-r--  1 sysadmin sysadmin 613M Aug 17 10:16 ubuntu Done
[04:46] <dr_willis> just a cd. ;) not a 4gb dvd then. heh
[04:46] <babinlonston1> hmm
[04:50] <dr_feelgud> how to read txt files on terminal?
[04:51] <grimeton> dr_feelgud: more, less, vi, vim, ....
[04:51] <cartusia> btw I found the answer to my question. In case anyone else is wondering
[04:51] <cartusia> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6392944/whats-the-difference-between-a-linux-chroot-jail-and-a-freebsd-jail
[04:51] <reisio> cartusia: what was your question?
[04:51] <grimeton> cartusia: freebsd doesn't have jails ...
[04:51] <dr_feelgud> grimeton, thanks
[04:51] <grimeton> cartusia: argh, my fault ...
[04:53] <stimoceiver> so
[04:53] <reisio> that "answer" appears to confuse a chroot with a chroot jail
[04:53] <reisio> one of the words is an adjective
[04:53] <dr_feelgud> how do i convert log file into html?
[04:53] <grimeton> dr_feelgud: perl, python, ....
[04:53] <reisio> dr_feelgud: what for...
[04:54] <babinlonston1> Any  One Have Idea About Installing Kalutura Video Platform in ubuntu ?
[04:54] <dr_feelgud> i want to read logs on browser
[04:54] <reisio> most web servers will server as text/plain anything with a .txt extension
[04:54] <reisio> will serve*
[04:55] <grimeton> dr_feelgud: (echo '<html><body><pre>';cat /var/log/syslog;echo '</pre></body></html>') > log.html
[04:56] <dr_willis> dr_feelgud:  a browser can display text files i recall doing it in the past
[04:56] <dr_feelgud> grimeton, awesome thanks
[04:56] <reisio> total waste of time
[04:56] <dr_willis> may as well use a log colorizer script :)
[04:57] <reisio> may as well use ssh :p
[04:57] <dr_feelgud> dr_willis, thanks for responding
[04:57] <dr_willis> sssshhhhh., no one should mention ssh.. its a secret
[04:57] <reisio> :p
[04:57] <dr_willis> !find colortail
[04:57] <dr_willis> !info colortail
[04:58] <dr_willis> old skool eye candy.. have a transparent xterminal on the 'root' of the x server display.. displaying  colorized log output ;)
[04:58] <stimoceiver> dumb question: how can i tell what release and version # of ubuntu i am running from the command line?
[04:58] <grimeton> there is xroottail
[04:59] <dr_willis> !version
[04:59] <grimeton> stimoceiver: lsb_release -r
[04:59] <reisio> stimoceiver: cat /etc/*release*
[04:59] <dr_willis> !info xroottail
[04:59] <dr_willis> !find xroottail
[04:59] <stimoceiver> thanks, grimeton  and reisio
[04:59] <stimoceiver> and dr_willis
[04:59] <grimeton> !find root-tail
[04:59] <dr_willis> and ubottu  ;)
[04:59] <grimeton> !info root-tail
[05:00] <dr_willis> she gets jelous
[05:00] <stimoceiver> yes thank you ubottu for your tireless service!
[05:00] <stimoceiver> so I'm running 13.04 - is that the latest release version?
[05:00] <dr_feelgud> grimeton, is log.html will be auto generated if i execute that script?
[05:00] <grimeton> dr_feelgud: what script?
[05:01] <grimeton> dr_feelgud: ah, yeah
[05:01] <stimoceiver> today I boot up my ubuntu machine and the software update shows a blank update
[05:01] <stimoceiver> 1.5 MB spread over 11 files but no info shows up
[05:01] <grimeton> stimoceiver: shit happens
[05:01] <stimoceiver> haha!
[05:02] <stimoceiver> how true that statement is
[05:02] <dr_feelgud> grimeton, ok i'll try that
[05:02] <stimoceiver> so i was just wondering if there were any major releases out or something
[05:02] <dr_feelgud> grimeton, thanks
[05:02] <stimoceiver> like 13.10 or w/e
[05:03] <stimoceiver> the problem with the "shit happens" is it isnt as reassuring
[05:03] <stimoceiver> is there a way to clear whatever caches of that it has and get it to re-download?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> !laqnguage | stimoceiver, grimeton
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> !language | stimoceiver, grimeton
[05:03] <grimeton> stimoceiver: run a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade in the shell
[05:05] <stimoceiver> grimeton: the output of apt-get udpate gives this error:
[05:05] <stimoceiver> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ raring/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[05:05] <stimoceiver> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:06] <grimeton> stimoceiver: did you modify sources.list?
[05:06] <stimoceiver> probably a while back to add some launchpad sources but other than that, no
[05:06] <grimeton> stimoceiver: then check /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the duplicat line
[05:06] <grimeton> duplicate
[05:07] <vic2r> i run pidgin on terminal. then still it auto close. then on terminal it says Segmentation fault. what does it mean.. what seems to be the problem..
[05:08] <ubulost> exit
[05:09] <dr_feelgud> can some1 help me how to select all text on terminal? i use cat.
[05:09] <Lever> how i generate muluple ssh keys and save it in one file
[05:11] <vic2r> does anyone know how to fix segmentation fault happens when my pidgin auto close.
[05:12] <stimoceiver> what is the package "command-not-found"
[05:12] <stimoceiver> and python3-commandnotfound
[05:14] <Voi> when i type python in terminal i get 2.7.4, i got python 3, how do i change it to python 3?
[05:14] <Voi> and where can i find it on my computer
[05:14] <mobile> I want to use a huawei modem on ubuntu 13.04, Ubuntu doesn't detects my dongle. I can't find the enable mobile broadband option
[05:14] <grimeton> Voi: python3
[05:14] <jrib> Voi: python3
[05:14] <Voi> oh :D
[05:14] <grimeton> stimoceiver: those are packages that contain the command-not-found "tool" and it's bindings to python3
[05:14] <Voi> too easy! *protests*
[05:15] <stimoceiver> ah ok
[05:15] <grimeton> Voi: ls -al /usr/bin/python*
[05:15] <dr_feelgud> is ther any ubuntu similar  to deepfreeze for windows?
[05:15] <dr_feelgud> is ther any ubuntu software similar  to deepfreeze for windows?
[05:16] <stimoceiver> grimeton: thanks
[05:16] <jrib> dr_feelgud: what does deepfreeze do...?
[05:17] <rjknight1> @dr_feelgud: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1439653
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> dr_feelgud, used to be.
[05:18] <dr_feelgud> jrib, it saves your time from os crashing.
[05:19] <stimoceiver> dr_feelgud: theres a version for SUSE linux
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> rjknight1, You can use tab to complete nicks @ does not inform the other person.
[05:19] <dr_feelgud> rjkinight, thanks i'll check that
[05:20] <dr_feelgud> stimoceiver, thanks
[05:20] <mobile> I want to use a huawei modem on ubuntu 13.04, Ubuntu doesn't detects my dongle. I can't find the enable mobile broadband option
[05:21] <xmetal> back
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> mobile, Run lsusb and post the exact model.
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> to the channel
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: wb
[05:24] <thunder1212> how can i install enlightment desktop in ubuntu 13.04
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | thunder1212
[05:25] <Niichan> Hi all my computer is randomly slowingdown all mouse and keyboad input until I reboot
[05:25] <Niichan> It is running Ubuntu 13.04 https://gist.github.com/Niichan/ae1551b22542ba40d11a
[05:25] <thunder1212> lotuspsychje, why is the package so small?
[05:26] <grimeton> thunder1212: meta package that pulls in all the other stuff
[05:26] <thunder1212> grimeton, means?
[05:27] <grimeton> thunder1212: run the install and see how millions of additional packages, containing enlightenment, are being installed
[05:27] <thunder1212> ok
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> grimeton, Could you please be less accurate in your descriptions, lol.
[05:28] <jaimeh> Okay guys, something weird happened with my media keys. They seem to be working with the kernel but I can no longer change volume/media/brightness.
[05:28] <Niichan> I am not having this prolem on windows, the IRQ in question seems to be a USB device
[05:28] <Pinkamen1_D> I just did a fsck on a hard drive which I suspected errors on. It got through the first two phases or so, and now its going crazy with numbers scrolling across the screen.
[05:28] <Pinkamen1_D> what do?
[05:28] <grimeton> Pinkamen1_D: run fsck again with "-y"
[05:29] <Pinkamen1_D> its still going
[05:29] <grimeton> Pinkamen1_D: i'd say it's time to start praying
[05:29] <grimeton> Pinkamen1_D: and maybe running smartctl later on
[05:29] <xmetal> !lessdetails
[05:29] <Pinkamen1_D> its ok, luckily the data is not very important
[05:29] <xmetal> :P
[05:30] <grimeton> Pinkamen1_D: then drop the praying
[05:30] <Pinkamen1_D> =P
[05:31] <Putz3000> anyone open to hearing a support question based on LibreOffice?
[05:32] <jaimeh> Does anybody know what service runs to send a media key signal to the say d-bus? I seem to have broken the media keys ability to work. Running xev it looks like it is working, but it does not change, for example, the volume
[05:34] <mobile> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5995158/  My current internet connection is very poor, so I was disconnected. This is the output of lsusb.
[05:35] <Putz3000> I basically have a Ubuntu 12.04 & LibreOffice 4.1 issue. Any advanced LibreOffice users open to hearing my issue?
[05:37] <grimeton> Putz3000: #libreoffice
[05:37] <Putz3000> grimeton: ya, been there, still there. 8 ops, 90 users, no one paying attention to the room.
[05:37] <grimeton> Putz3000: welcome to the world of libreoffice
[05:38] <mobile> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5995158/  My current internet connection is very poor, so I was disconnected. This is the output of lsusb.
[05:38] <xmetal> what is the actual question?
[05:38] <Putz3000> grimeton: no kidding! a loaded IRC support channel with no interaction is one of my big pet peeves.
[05:38] <Putz3000> xmetal: my question?
[05:39] <grimeton> Putz3000: they sometimes recommend to open a voice chat
[05:39] <grimeton> Putz3000: but i never used that
[05:39] <grimeton> oh how i hate udev sometimes
[05:39] <Putz3000> grimeton: me neither. these days I rarely use IRC. barely know how to change nick & join a room...lol
[05:40] <grimeton> Putz3000: don't think it's an irc thing
[05:40] <grimeton> Putz3000: read their welcome note that you get when you join the channel
[05:41] <Putz3000> grimeton: ya, read the topic info. saw the numbers but it wasn't presented as a required task..lol
[05:42] <Putz3000> grimeton: or so I thought.
[05:42] <grimeton> i guess the highly recommended task there is wait
[05:43]  * wilee-nilee people who cannot use the actual topic is one of my pet peeves, this is not a chat channel.
[05:44] <mobile> My ubuntu 13.04 cannot detect my huawie modem (tata photon+). I can't find the enable mobile broadband opion. This is my lsusb output,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5995158/ . If it is useful.
[05:44] <mr_lou> Can someone help me get Java working in my browsers. I installed OpenJDK, and found this page: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[05:44] <mr_lou> But there's no libnpjp2.so in my jre lib folder.
[05:45] <mr_lou> So I'm stuck
[05:45] <MrHotsauce> you installed JDK you need JRE
[05:45] <mr_lou> Surely JRE is part of the JDK?
[05:45] <grimeton> mr_lou: openjdk isn't exactly the oracle thing
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> mobile, Ubuntu sees the modem and it is a huawie EC1260 include that info it's rather important, to get help.
[05:45] <mr_lou> Ok then.
[05:45] <mr_lou> Out with OpenJDK and in with Oracle
[05:46] <Putz3000> mr_lou: I just installed Java via instructions from this URL http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html  not sure if that is what you are looking for or not.
[05:46] <mobile> wilee-nilee: Thanks for replying. How can I enable mobile broadband?
[05:47] <grimeton> mr_lou: you won't get that file with any package on ubuntu
[05:47] <mr_lou> Putz3000, Thanks. Will take a look.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> mobile, I have no idea, but you can use that info to find links such as this. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+EC1260
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> mobile, My advice would be to get a plug and play usb modem, they are rather cheap.
[05:48] <stimoceiver> those huawei modems are pretty cool, is that one of the 4G LTE ones?
[05:49] <stimoceiver> (im too lazy to type "huawie EC1260" in my browser)
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> cool and working are not the same
[05:49] <qwertyomen> They just don't work too good indoors...
[05:49] <grimeton> and they always have a backdoor if you loose your password
[05:50] <mr_lou> Installing Oracle's JDK (sun-java6-jdk) still doesn't give me a /usr/local/java folder as referred to on that page.
[05:50] <grimeton> mr_lou: i told you, you won't be able to get that file with any package on ubuntu
[05:50] <mr_lou> grimeton, Then why is it referred to on most help pages I've found?
[05:50] <dr_willis> sun  java? isent that a bit old?
[05:51] <grimeton> mr_lou: # apt-file search libnpjp2.so | wc -l
[05:51] <dr_willis> out of date docs perhaps
[05:51] <grimeton> mr_lou: 0
[05:51] <theImpaled> hi
[05:51] <grimeton> mr_lou: i guess it's when you use their java package - no idea
[05:51] <dr_willis> !java
[05:51] <qwertyomen> theImpaled: Hi!
[05:55] <theImpaled> um....
[05:57] <qwertyomen> Best phone to install ubuntu on?
[05:57] <theImpaled> hi qweryomen
[05:59] <mysteriousdarren> qwertyomen: Samsung Galaxy 4
[05:59] <mr_lou> Putz3000, Thanks a lot! I just had to do it like you suggested.
[06:00] <mr_lou> Putz3000, Now all works again.
[06:00] <qwertyomen> mysteriousdarren: Don't those come with quad cores now?
[06:01] <mysteriousdarren> qwertyomen: I think so, I can't remember.
[06:01] <Putz3000> mr_lou: awesome! glad I could help.
[06:01] <grimeton> i remember something that parts of the gfx driver isn't open sauce anymore
[06:02] <qwertyomen> mysteriousdarren: wikipedia says one variant does... woudn't a Samsung Note do better?
[06:02] <rscnt> hi
[06:02] <rscnt> this is
[06:02] <rscnt> grim76
[06:06] <qwertyomen> Oh snap! octocores now.... I've been sleeping through the phone industry lately...
[06:06] <rscnt> why?
[06:09] <phunyguy> !touch | qwertyomen
[06:11] <sparklr> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu 13.04 suddenly froze, I rebooted, now i can't login to that user account and i cant access the files as well as the user was encrypted
[06:12] <jaimeh> sparklr: the user account was encrypted?
[06:12] <sparklr> jaimeh: yes
[06:12] <Putz3000> sparklr: Did you by chance just make a video driver change?
[06:13] <sparklr> Putz3000: no, i dint change anything. It was working normally until it froze yesterday
[06:13] <jaimeh> sparklr: what can you see when you boot up? The login screen?
[06:14] <sparklr>  jaimeh: i can login to other accounts, i just cant login to my primary account where all my data is and which is encrypted
[06:18] <Putz3000> sparklr: would this URL possibly help you at least gain access for data recovery? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-your-encrypted-private-directory-using-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[06:18] <jaimeh> sparklr: you didn't change your password when it crashed?
[06:19] <sparklr> jaimeh: there was a password on it, I removed the password. It suddenly froze while i was working.
[06:20] <sparklr> Putz3000: thanks. well i need to get that user working too apart from getting the data
[06:21] <sparklr>  jaimeh: it tries to login when i log in with and without password but it again comes back to the login screen. I dont get incorrect password error
[06:24] <anonee> hello, it seems pulseaudio is not working again... :(
[06:24] <anonee> any help would be highly appreciated...
[06:25] <waterlite> hi all
[06:25] <waterlite> Anyone from India/
[06:25] <holstein> anonee: confirm if it is or not.. i like to use pavucontrol
[06:25] <waterlite> ?
[06:25] <anonee> this time the sound indicator is greyed out, with an x mark
[06:25] <holstein> anonee: that is "muted"
[06:25] <anonee> Oh my GOD!
[06:25] <anonee> holstein!!
[06:25] <holstein> anonee: you could have muted with the keyboard by accident..
[06:26] <anonee> but in the GNOME ALSA mixer I've unmuted it lol
[06:26] <waterlite> hmm
[06:26] <holstein> anonee: try using pavcontrol..
[06:26] <anonee> I'll try Audacity with pulse now
[06:26] <anonee> holstein what is pavcontrol? should I google that?
[06:27] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[06:27] <holstein> anonee: assuming you are using pulse... i think its a "better" tool for most use cases
[06:27] <holstein> waterlite: use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat..
[06:28] <anonee> Okay :) but u know holstein I'm seriously thinking about installing another pulseaudio in order to get the equalizer, I really like to have a global equalizer and that dynamic bands quantity seems interesting...
[06:29] <holstein> anonee: "installing another pulseaudio" makes no sense to me
[06:29] <holstein> anonee: you can use an eq in a player, such as vlc
[06:29] <sparklr> can anyone help me out? I cant log in to one of my encrypted user account?
[06:29] <holstein> sparklr: details, please.... did you lose the password?
[06:29] <woo> sparklr: what are you using for your keyring?
[06:30] <sparklr> holstein: no. I use the correct password. My system froze yesterday night, since then i cant login to that user account, i can access other accounts
[06:30] <xmetal> hmm
[06:31] <sparklr> woo: keyring? i have heard about
[06:31] <sparklr> key string*
[06:32] <woo> sparklr: gnome-keyring-daemon
[06:32] <woo> sparklr: I use cryptkeeper
[06:33] <xmetal> hmm have a mental image of that cryptkeeper guy asking for linux passwords
[06:34] <woo> xmetal: I learned it when I had puppylinux disks just floating around
[06:34] <trust_> hello guys
[06:35] <woo> hi
[06:35] <sparklr> woo: gnome-keyring-daemon output http://www.privatepaste.com/d0ad671ede
[06:36] <sparklr> woo: i have not customized it. Its the default package which comes 13.04
[06:36] <sparklr> Putz3000:  jaimeh: are you guys there?
[06:37] <Putz3000> sparklr: yes I am.
[06:37] <woo> sparklr: I had it set up on 10.04
[06:37] <sparklr> Putz3000: any idea how to get that user working?
[06:38] <sparklr> woo: what does it do? i have no idea how it relates to my problem
[06:38] <trust_> i have a problem with my old laptop, i'am searching for a non pae version, i tried the ubuntu 13.04 12.10 12.04 an also tried the lubunto 12.10 all keep saying please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu, what version should i use for non pae cpu?
[06:38] <Putz3000> sparklr: no personal experience working around the encryption issue like you are having. have not yet found any other idea's yet either - sorry.
[06:39] <sparklr> Putz3000: ok thanks anyway
[06:39] <darkelfjuggalo> I am starting my own website, and I was recommended Apache MySQL and PHP install[s] to get me started, but i haven't a clue which exact packages I need? Using ubuntu 13.04
[06:39] <woo> ya that keyring output doesn't have any fs partitions to look at
[06:39] <grimeton> darkelfjuggalo: apt-cache search is a good start
[06:39] <grimeton> darkelfjuggalo: apt-cache search apache
[06:40] <sparklr> woo: but there is one user account which is encrypted
[06:40] <woo> sparklr: the files are split right?
[06:40] <Putz3000> trust_: I could be wrong, but thought Ubuntu dropped PAE support from newer distro versions. Seems like you could install like 11.10 possibly and upgrade from it to 12.04 ok but not 100% sure. Also seems like you cant take it the rest of the way to 13.x but again, I could be wrong.
[06:40] <sparklr> woo: i have no idea, i just select the encrypted option while installing
[06:41] <darkelfjuggalo> did that and there is a sh** load of packages
[06:41] <woo> sparklr: live boot > apt-get install cryptkeeper > take shots at the passwd
[06:41] <holstein> !pae
[06:42] <sparklr> woo: i know the password and pass phrase
[06:42] <trust_> thank you putz300 i'll try it =)
[06:42] <holstein> its the other way AFAIK.. only pae kernels in the later releases
[06:42] <woo> ya the user directory should contain one small and one large file
[06:42] <steamboat> I've just installed ubuntu on an UEFI system, and I'm trying to get it to load. Following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI I'm about to run boot-repair. It gives me a warning messgae "Please disable SecureBoot in the BIOS. Then try again. Do you want to continue?" Do I have to do something special to get Boot-repair to work with SecureBoot?
[06:42] <Putz3000> trust_: take a look at what ubotto just commented.
[06:43] <woo> !cryptkeeper | woo
[06:44] <woo> sparklr: it might be diffrent if it is lmv
[06:44] <woo> lvm
[06:44] <woo> !lvm | woo
[06:45] <sparklr> !lvm | sparklr
[06:45] <woo> nothing
[06:45] <woo> ub0ttu could use a bigger dict
[06:47] <woo> there was a case where the os kept locking me out of attempts on one of my encrypted volumes and with cryptkeeper and the gnome-keyring I was able to salvage a disk
[06:48] <trust_> where can i find the older ubunto versions?
[06:48] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <sparklr> woo: okay. i want to get this user working
[06:49] <holstein> trust_: the are "not supported"... but if you search for them, you'll find them
[06:49] <woo> trust_: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[06:50] <sparklr> holstein: any idea on how do i get this user working?
[06:50] <holstein> trust_: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[06:51] <holstein> sparklr: i personally dont deal with the overhead of user encryption like that anymore.. i would revert to my backups and not use it
[06:52] <sparklr> holstein: can you guide which all logs to check when the user is not able to log in? so that i find out what is the problem
[06:52] <woo> sparklr: didn't try that one ok.  just install gentoo > emerge cryptkeeper > import keyfiles and #crunchbang out the passwd from old cracked shadow files
[06:52] <holstein> sparklr: not really.. im not much of a "check the logs" guy.. i typically try the passwords in TTY to make sure i have it right, then, i blow out the user configs til it works
[06:53] <trust_> thank's a lot guys (linux makes me feel like a noob )
[06:54] <woo> trust_: noob saibot
[06:54] <holstein> trust_: you should try and use 12.04 or 13.04.. not an EOL release
[06:54] <sparklr> woo: i dont get you :/
[06:55] <holstein> sparklr: do you have your passphrase? the encryption passphrase?
[06:55] <sparklr> holstein: yes i have
[06:55] <woo> tobias and boon where the creators of Mortal Kombat later made a character Noob Saibot this noob became standard thru the halo online gameplay but renamed newb
[06:55] <holstein> woo: use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please.. thanks!
[06:56] <trust_> @holstein i tried both won't work on my old laptop
[06:56] <woo> holstein: he asked I explained.  we are all noobs
[06:57] <sparklr> woo: im sorry :'(
[06:57] <woo> trust_: holstein is right you shouldn't run old distros without backports
[06:57] <holstein> woo: did you understand what i asked? the channel is for support.. please refer to the topic..
[06:58] <woo> woo: no I dont understand
[06:58] <babinlonston1> What will the Sudo apt-get upgrade command will do
[06:58] <holstein> trust_: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[06:59] <holstein> babinlonston1: upgrade packages on your system
[06:59] <auronandace> babinlonston1: fetch the latest updates (be sure to do sudo apt-get update first to refresh the repos)
[06:59] <Applesouce> Hey I have a small problem, yesterday I resized a partition and sized it back afterwards and now when Ubuntu boots up, I can't log in anymore :/ The Partition I resized was not attached where I installed Ubuntu and it shouldn't have any boot-files
[06:59] <holstein> sparklr: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html is something i would read
[06:59] <babinlonston1> ok will that fix the some drivers ?
[07:00] <grimeton> Applesouce: are you sure?
[07:00] <sparklr> holstein: ok ill check
[07:00] <woo> Applesouce: can you crtl+alt+f2?
[07:00] <holstein> babinlonston1: no.. it doesnt "fix" anything.. it upgrades packages.. upgraded packages might be able to provide some support, but not likely
[07:01] <Applesouce> Well now I'm on a Rescue-Disk with live-operating system, so I'm not sure, but I believe it didn't work because I already tried
[07:01] <holstein> babinlonston1: it wont hurt, asssuming, you have a driver support issue, to run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'.. i have had a kernel upgrade provide wifi support
[07:01] <Applesouce> I'm sure it shouldn't have any Boot-Files because the HDD wasn't attached while installing Ubuntu
[07:01] <grimeton> Applesouce: any kind of error message would be helpful
[07:01] <Applesouce> There is no error message
[07:01] <callinedu29> il y a un français
[07:02] <Applesouce> The Screen turns black and back to login
[07:02] <woo> Applesouce: !fr | callinedu29
[07:02] <grimeton> Applesouce: !?
[07:02] <callinedu29> french
[07:02] <woo> !fr | callinedu29
[07:02] <babinlonston1> ok just now i installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS in Lenovo x210e Laptop but the screen flicks now so i  need to get fix it
[07:02] <callinedu29> bonjour
[07:02] <grimeton> Applesouce: so you make it to the logon of the dm and then you are logged out right after the logon?
[07:02] <anonee> holstein I'm not sure whether you're busy or not, so if not, I just wanted to tell u that take a look at this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/install-pulseaudio-with-built-in-system.html what do you think about it? you can also take a look here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSiMyJZvdes the equalizer seems better than rhythmbox's and even better than vlc's! :D u know it right?
[07:03] <babinlonston1> holstein: sorry its Lenovo x120e
[07:03] <callinedu29> woo tu es fr
[07:03] <holstein> Applesouce: you can try recovering grub, if that is what is broken.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:03] <woo> callinedu29: yes
[07:03] <holstein> babinlonston1: doesnt matter what the hardware is.. and i could google that and not get eh *exact* chipsets..
[07:03] <woo> callinedu29: 2nd generation
[07:03] <Applesouce> Yes it shows the normal login screen of Ubuntu (it should normaly login by default) and then I type in my password and the screen turns black and back to login - same thing with guest session
[07:04] <grimeton> Applesouce: was your /home on the partition you resized?
[07:04] <woo> Applesouce: and you cant get a tty to proc?  are you sure?
[07:04] <babinlonston1> k
[07:04] <woo> Applesouce: can you edit grub to boot init 1?
[07:04] <holstein> anonee: i use jack for proaudio.. eq's and whatever.. im not really interested in eq's like that "on-the-fly" personally..
[07:04] <woo> Applesouce: hold tab down after the P.O.S.T.
[07:04] <Applesouce> no all my Ubuntu-Related Files are on the same harddrive that wasn't edited I resized another harddrive that I attached after the installation of ubuntu
[07:04] <callinedu29> au revoir
[07:05] <woo> callinedu29: bye
[07:05] <grimeton> Applesouce: hm, press ctrl+alt+f1 and try to logon as the user in the console and see if that works
[07:05] <grimeton> maybe it gives you an error message at least
[07:06] <Applesouce> It didn't it shows just a black screen with a blinking cursor
[07:06] <grimeton> Applesouce: no login prompt?
[07:06] <Applesouce> nope
[07:06] <grimeton> Applesouce: ctrl+alt+f2?
[07:06] <anonee> holstein btw do u know something better than audacity for recording wave? stability issues here .. :(
[07:07] <Applesouce> I'll do a Boot-Repair and try if it works afterwards, then I will try again to login via console
[07:07] <Applesouce> if it didn't work I come back :)
[07:07] <grimeton> anonee: use cat
[07:07] <grimeton> Applesouce: yeah try that ...
[07:07] <woo> Applesouce: you could also live boot and run fsck
[07:07] <holstein> anonee: "recording wave" ?.. it doesnt matter what filetype you are tracking to.. in linux, ardour is the tool, but there is nothing wrong with audacity if JACK is overkill for you
[07:07] <holstein> !proaudio | anonee
[07:08] <Applesouce> I am on live-boot
[07:08] <anonee> thank you holstein I needed that
[07:08] <woo> !fsck
[07:09] <anonee> because i installed ardour recently but didn't become friends with it yet, and I think i need more info about JACK
[07:10] <sparklr> woo: holstein: I can login via TTY but i can see no data and i get this error "signature not found in user keyring" perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[07:12] <holstein> sparklr: sounds right to me..
[07:12] <babinlonston1> Will Lenovo Thinkpad X120e Supports Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ? Getting Restart After reaching logon screen
[07:12] <sparklr> holstein: any idea on what to do next to recover the user keyring?
[07:13] <holstein> babinlonston1: ideally, lenova would tell you that.. nothing about ubuntu/linux is preventing that support
[07:13] <holstein> babinlonston1: try the 12.04 and 13.04 cd's live on the hardware, and go with what is working best
[07:13] <babinlonston1> ok
[07:13] <holstein> sparklr: did you try that suggestion?
[07:14] <holstein> ecryptfs-mount-private ... or the link i gave from a live CD?
[07:15] <sparklr> holstein: ecryptfs-mount-private asks for a passphrase. I enter the correct passphrase, still it gives an error
[07:16] <holstein> sparklr: then, the passphrase is incorrect, or you are entering it incorrrectly, or the disk is damaged.. or file system is corrupt.. or something "bad"
[07:16] <sparklr> holstein: omg. No other way to recover the data now?
[07:17] <holstein> sparklr: with the passphrase..
[07:17] <sparklr> holstein: passphrase is correct
[07:17] <holstein> sparklr: encryption offers no backups though.. you have to do that seperately
[07:17] <holstein> sparklr: if the passphrase were "correct", it would be working... or some other more serious issue is going on
[07:18] <holstein> sparklr: how about from a live CD? with the suggestion from before? did that work?
[07:18] <sparklr> holstein: dont have a live CD. i look up for the link again
[07:19] <holstein> sparklr: good luck. i have to run..
[07:19] <sparklr> holstein: thanks man!
[07:24] <sparklr> holstein: i was using the incorrect passphrase, i figured out the correct one, and the disk is mounted. is there a way to get that user account working? or do i have to take a backup of the data and use a new user account?
[07:29] <sparklr> can anyone help me with this error "signature not found in user keyring"
[07:31] <Applesouce> Ok this didn't work
[07:31] <Applesouce> But I'm suppost to post this link ;D http://paste.ubuntu.com/5995321/
[07:31] <anonee> holstein: it says that I can reduce the latency to 64 ms or so if I have linux-lowlatency installed, I tried apt-get install linux-lowlatency and it said I need 180 MB it's trying to install an old kernel (3.2.0.51) is that normal? and if I accept the installation, will I still boot the current kernel? (3.8.0-27) ?
[07:32] <anonee> or should I boot the old kernel whenever I wanna use the low-latency?
[07:33] <grimeton> Applesouce: the boot up isn't your problem
[07:34] <grimeton> Applesouce: a log file or any kind of error message would be nice
[07:34] <steamboat> Can anyone tell me what the SecureBoot checkbox of boot-repair is for?
[07:34] <Applesouce> grimeton: There is no Error message ... I try to log in and it just kicks me out
[07:35] <kallebror> hello, trying to get my monitor to work and I need to make a file in /etc/x11. x11 is already an file but my path should be like this /etc/x11/xorg.conf. hwlp plz
[07:35] <grimeton> Applesouce: and you can't change to the console and log on?
[07:35] <james-ubyssey> hi, I'm trying to get dota to run on on my ultrabook but launching it gives an open gl error saying st3 compression not found, I tried force_s3tc_enable=true steam and installing libtxc-dxtn but doing so the hero models dont show
[07:35] <Applesouce> grimeton: No when I change to console, the screen just turns black and there is a flashing cursor ...
[07:35] <james-ubyssey> currently on 12.04 (cant upgrade) and graphics is hd4000
[07:36] <kallebror> how do I make a config file in /etc/x11?
[07:37] <kallebror> trying to get my korean monitor to work
[07:37] <Grmlng90> hi , anyone who could help me out a sec ?
[07:37] <dr_willis> kallebror:  if you need a /etc/X11/xorg.conf then just use a text editor
[07:38] <Grmlng90> or is there a install help channel ?
[07:38] <dr_willis> Grmlng90:  this is it
[07:38] <Grmlng90> great , ok let me type the issue
[07:38] <nowayride> Grmlng90: Just ask it, don't ask to ask
[07:38] <kallebror> sorry, im a noob. If I nano x11 how do I make a config file?
[07:38] <dr_willis> kallebror:  CASE is imporntant in linux  /etc/X11 is NOT the same as /etc/x11
[07:39] <dr_willis> kallebror:   'gedit filetomake'
[07:39] <grimeton> Applesouce: and you can't switch to a different console when you're on the console then?
[07:39] <grimeton> Applesouce: tried pressing alt+f2 or alt+f3?
[07:39] <Grmlng90> so , i tried to install the latest 13,04 (linux n00b here) , as a dual boot system , on my AMD FX 8120 8-core - 8gig ram , ATI radeon HD 6800 graphics
[07:39] <dr_willis> kallebror:  or  sudo nano /path/to/the/file   for the console
[07:39] <Applesouce> grimeton: yes they all do the same ...
[07:40] <Grmlng90>  i made a bootable USB drive from a sandisk cruzer blade 8gig using unetbootin , everything looks fine with that , put the drive in a usb 2 port , put that drive first in boot sequence ofcourse
[07:40] <dr_willis> kallebror:  for example        sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:40] <Grmlng90> ok , i get the option of install ubuntu ,
[07:40] <grimeton> Applesouce: this is strange ...
[07:40] <grimeton> Applesouce: no idea
[07:40] <Grmlng90> and then i get this flashing purple screen , flashing fading into white
[07:40] <Grmlng90> nothing else , just a huge epileptic attack
[07:40] <DrDigital> i should of never restarted the computer in the middle of the OS installing
[07:40] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Grmlng90
[07:40] <Applesouce> grimeton: So I should just reinstall ...
[07:40] <kallebror> ye, thanks I got into the file. Now I just need to try to get this file right
[07:40] <DrDigital> cant even get the damn live cd to boot now
[07:41] <Grmlng90> so if i google ubuntu install + nomodeset i should find a manual what to do ?
[07:41] <grimeton> Applesouce: you could boot into single user mode and check the logs for any kind of errors
[07:41] <nowayride> Applesouce: late to the party, what is it doing?
[07:41] <Grmlng90> aha , great , the quest continues
[07:41] <grimeton> Applesouce: but i don't know any ubuntu-specific recovery procedure that could maybe help you
[07:42] <Grmlng90> well its definately more help here as in linux mint , i think i can finally make the choice between the 2
[07:42] <Applesouce> nowayride: yesterday I resized a HDD that wasn't attached to Ubuntu where I installed it, so there shouldn't be any Boot-Files on it, then I sized it back and now I can't log in anymore
[07:42] <DrDigital> i got same issue i guess
[07:42] <dr_willis> Grmlng90:  i dont see much point to using mint at all.. and mints main support channel is not on the freenode network i belive its on spotchat
[07:42] <DrDigital> however first time i went to install ubuntu on this system i had no problems at all?
[07:42] <DrDigital> it booted right up, i just was a dumb ass and forgot to setup a swap parition
[07:43] <Applesouce> nowayride: It shows the normal login screen, but when I log in the screen turns black and it shows the login screen again (normaly it should login by default anyways)
[07:43] <Grmlng90> yup , i went there cause i had other issues with trying to install that (brother in law said me that mint was more windows like and thus better , but screw him)
[07:43] <dr_willis> DrDigital:  you can always add a swap file.  I dont even have a swap partion on my main system
[07:43] <DrDigital> instead of waiting for it to finish installing and downloading all the updates i thought it be faster if i just reboot and started over...
[07:43] <DrDigital> now its like 10 hours later and i still cant get the live cd to boot up and ask me if i want to try or install
[07:43] <dr_willis> 'more windows like' would not be a good thing..  ;)
[07:43] <DrDigital> and ive changed hard drives, data cables, redownloaded the ISO, burned new cds
[07:44] <nowayride> Applesouce: Ooooooooooooh um, yeah the login stuff is borked. I forget exactly what causes that but try single or a recovery, sounds like passwd or PAM or something got messed up, but you'd have to check messages or syslog or whatever
[07:44] <DrDigital> I'm not that great with ubuntu… I'm learning still and i didn't know that
[07:44] <Grmlng90> in interface / way of using he meant . Hey man , ive been using windows since 95 and nothing else , delivered years of support , even for bloody vista . Its scary in the dark you know :P
[07:44] <dr_willis> DrDigital:  you have a 2nd pc? to test out things on?
[07:44] <Grmlng90> anyway , thank you Council of the Great Ubuntu , the fellowship continues !
[07:44] <DrDigital> i got like 10
[07:44] <Grmlng90> ^lol
[07:45] <DrDigital> i know my CD is good, it boots other systems up fine
[07:45] <Applesouce> nowayride: How do I boot single or recovery?
[07:45] <dr_willis> DrDigital:  on a problem machine once.. i used a 2nd machine.. that  cd worked on.. did a 'full normal install' to a usb flash drive (8gb) then i booted that flash in  the problem pc. and imaged the usb onto its hard drive. thus cloning the usb install to the problem pc.   ;)
[07:46] <dr_willis> then i repeated it for like 5 other machines i was working on also for people. ;)
[07:46] <dr_willis> but that dosent answer why you are having such issue with that pc in the firsst place
[07:47] <nowayride> Applesouce: when booting you need to hit grub.. it's um, hold shift (or if it's server just mash a and it'll hit the edit line)? Then edit the vmlinuz line to have single at the end
[07:47] <nowayride> It's easier to remember this stuff at the console :\
[07:47] <dr_willis> !text
[07:48] <dr_willis> text  mode is just like one step 'above' single user mode. ;)     thers also the 'rescue/recovery' mode
[07:48] <nowayride> So does anyone 1) know how to inject hostname into the kickstart without using %post (is it a different name? It's pulling kickseed) 2) any repercussions for setting a proxy cache for us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to pull installer/apt-get stuff from? Granted these are throw aways and don't need to be up to date
[07:48] <Applesouce> Ok I'll try
[07:50] <Naveen_> guys, i installed BURG and now my boot is damaged
[07:50] <Naveen_> please help
[07:50] <DrDigital> what i don't get (this is the wrong version) why am i not getting this kinda system now? I got this the first time http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[07:50] <Naveen_> I have ubuntu 11 live CD
[07:51] <nowayride> DrDigital: What do you mean it is the wrong version, what you installed isn't 13.04?
[07:51] <anonee> btw can I still get ubuntu 10 ?
[07:51] <anonee> I mean is it still usable? I like it!
[07:52] <DrDigital> im installing 12.04
[07:52] <DrDigital> and i gave a link to the 13
[07:52] <W-Man> OMG !!!!!!!
[07:52] <DrDigital> but they pretty similar interface compared to what i got… i posted a video on a ubuntu Facebook group
[07:52] <streulma> good morning :)
[07:52] <W-Man> So many people in here, it's insane
[07:52] <W-Man> Hi everybody
[07:52] <streulma> what's the best way to make the fonts in Ubuntu better ?
[07:53] <Slart> streulma: define better =)
[07:53] <grimeton> streulma: design your own
[07:53] <streulma> okay... like Microsoft fonts with ttfmscorefontsinstaller
[07:53] <anonee> W-Man hi, this is the ubuntu official support channel, please ask your question, otherwise, please use ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <grimeton> streulma: there is no such thing as lindings
[07:53] <peter1210> Can i create more than one extended partition on disk?
[07:54] <streulma> and then my fonts are not good and a bit blurry on my Retina screen
[07:54] <streulma> the problem is if I set on 1650px then it is ugly, on 2280px it is to high
[07:54] <grimeton> peter1210: on the "common layouts": no
[07:54] <Slart> streulma: there used to be some settings for font anti-aliasing.. "cleartype" kind of settings
[07:55] <peter1210> what is common layouts?
[07:55] <grimeton> peter1210: something the redmond os can read too
[07:56] <Slart> streulma: this might help you... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Font_settings  not sure how up-to-date that guide is though
[07:56] <DrDigital> i feel like just smashing the shit out of this computer and just buying another one
[07:56] <peter1210> i have windows 7 installed and i want to install also ubuntu and windows xp
[07:56] <grimeton> peter1210: think about virtualization
[07:56] <peter1210> i have one extended partition but i want to create one more
[07:56] <grimeton> ls
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> peter1210, Only one extended is allowed
[07:57] <peter1210> that's not good
[07:57] <Slart> peter1210: can't you just extend the one you have?
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> peter1210, seems to work for everyone else. ;)
[07:57] <peter1210> partitions are not adjecent
[07:58] <peter1210> so i can't extend them
[07:58] <Slart> peter1210: and you can't have any more primary partitions?
[07:58] <grimeton> convert to gpt
[07:59] <ghostnik11> Hi is there a program to block your IP address or to show a different IP address so that you can use a certain program
[07:59] <peter1210> i have some toshiba system volume partition which is primary
[07:59] <peter1210> i think to delete it
[07:59] <grimeton> ghostnik11: iptables ...
[07:59] <Slart> ghostnik11: I think a proxy is what you're looking for
[08:00] <Slart> ghostnik11: changing your ip is like telling people you live at the north pole.. you might fool them but you won't get any mail they send
[08:00] <ghostnik11> grimeton: iptables? Slart: I am trying to change IP so I can make calls back to home using Google voice
[08:01] <Slart> ghostnik11: and what's wrong with using the ip you have?
[08:01] <grimeton> ghostnik11: you can change your ip to anything you want, but it won't help you, as long as you don't get it forwarded by the provider you're currently using
[08:01] <Tex_Nick> Slart : great analogy ;-)
[08:01] <kallebror> anyone have a korean 1440p ips monitor here?
[08:02] <ghostnik11> Slart: well now I am in the states where me and my family live but will outside of the states and Google voice doesn't work outside usa
[08:02] <grimeton> ghostnik11: go for a different solution, e.g. skype
[08:03] <crass> ghostnik11: proxy?
[08:03] <Tech-1> ghostnik11,  thats cuz its nsa approved
[08:03] <ghostnik11> grimeton: so first I would have to find out if provider will allow me to show the different IP, yeah I won't know until in get there. Also skype isn't good on dial up speeds
[08:04] <Slart> ghostnik11: then you need a proxy.. those come in different variations..free/cheap ones might not be that good, good ones usually cost money. Are you sure it's not just when you register you have to be in the us? I assume you've tried?
[08:04] <crass> ghostnik11: and who says google voice doesn't work outside the US? I've used it many times
[08:04] <grimeton> ghostnik11: you're beating a dead horse ...
[08:04] <Tinashe> Hi Guys...
[08:05] <ghostnik11> Tech-1: lol, so Google voice is NSA approved? If that's true then they have a lot of my conversation with my family
[08:05] <crass> there are some countries that google voice won't allow you to call from, like Burma
[08:05] <crass> but then I just used it through tor
[08:05] <Tinashe> Guys got a question...anyone...
[08:05] <Slart> Tinashe: just ask
[08:06] <Tinashe> sure...anyone doing web application development in Java...need help with something...
[08:06] <ghostnik11> crass: oh well I will be satisfied if I can text family from where I am using Google voice
[08:07] <Slart> Tinashe: just ask the question.. you might want to try a java specific channel as well.. I'm guessing there has to be a ##java channel here
[08:07] <Tinashe> I need to define a service bean in a configuration xml file of a web app and I am getting a bean instantiation error...
[08:07] <crass> ghostnik11: are you talking about using the web-interface or wanting them to relay to a local (foreign) number?
[08:07] <Tinashe> ok let me try #java...
[08:07] <vijacdblz> khk.hyk
[08:08] <ghostnik11> crass: no I am talking about being on my tablet and texting my mom for example using my goog le
[08:08] <ghostnik11> crass: voice app
[08:08] <Tinashe> ....nothing like #java.....
[08:08] <Tinashe> ----invites only...
[08:08] <matzo> Can anyone tell me how to NOT kill process after closing SSH connection?
[08:08] <crass> ghostnik11: yeah, that should work
[08:08] <grimeton> matzo: screen, tmux
[08:09] <grimeton> matzo: i recommend tmux
[08:09] <Slart> matzo: nohup might work as well.. there might be some configuration stuff you can do on the server side as well
[08:09] <Slart> Tinashe: try ##java
[08:09] <ghostnik11> crass: and I want to be able to have family members be able to text my Google voice number and I am able to receive it while overseas
[08:09] <Slart> !register | Tinashe
[08:09] <Tinashe> Slart:------ only invites ---
[08:09] <crass> ghostnik11: you'll get it through your google voice account
[08:09] <Slart> Tinashe: you need to be registered to join
[08:10] <matzo> grimeton Slart: will this work with PHP SSH2?
[08:10] <Tinashe> how...
[08:10] <Slart> Tinashe: registered to freenode.. not the java channel
[08:10] <Mrokii> Hello. I am getting dbus-related errors in an irc-client I'm using (in conjunction with a plugin). I guess the most important error-message is this: weechat     > python: stdout/stderr: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-Msmk39X5eR: Connection refused
[08:10] <grimeton> matzo: yes, but maybe you want an init script OR a cron job?
[08:10] <Mrokii> Does anybody know what could cause the error above?
[08:10] <kallebror>  /msg nickserv set email
[08:10] <ghostnik11> crass: yeah but I don't know if it will show up as I will be on internet not in the usa
[08:10] <Tinashe> am on free node...can access ubuntu and openmrs without reg...
[08:10] <kallebror> he
[08:10] <Slart> matzo: it should.. afaik it's not dependant on the medium.. it would say it depends on the server
[08:11] <crass> ghostnik11: of course it will
[08:11] <ghostnik11> crass: hence why I asked if maybe I can block my IP address and show a USA one
[08:11] <kallebror> anyone with an korean 27 ips monitor here?
[08:11] <Slart> Tinashe: yes, some channels are open to all.. others require that you register.. I assume it cuts down on spambots and such
[08:11] <Tinashe> Slart: sure how doi reg...
[08:11] <Slart> !register | Tinashe
[08:11] <crass> ghostnik11: use a US proxy, if you want
[08:11] <Tinashe> !register
[08:12] <ghostnik11> crass: okay well would i need an program for Ubuntu for that?
[08:12] <tinashe> Slart: seems I have registered...can I try #java now...
[08:13] <Slart> tinashe: sure, give it a go
[08:13] <grimeton> the registration help note is really useful
[08:13] <grimeton> tinashe: /msg nickserv help
[08:13] <crass> ghostnik11: check out the Tor project
[08:14] <crass> ghostnik11: depends maybe where you will be going, but I doubt you'll have a problem logging in to google's servers anywhere
[08:14] <tinashe> gimeton: Slart: still cannot access ##java
[08:14] <Slart> tinashe: try #java
[08:14] <tinashe> Slart: tried the same...
[08:14] <Slart> tinashe: and make sure you're actually logged in.. not just registered
[08:14] <grimeton> tinashe: http://www.freenode.org/using_the_network.shtml
[08:15] <Cheznet> can i change my name to techno knob
[08:15] <Slart> Cheznet: /nick YourNewNick  should work
[08:15] <Grmlng90> ok , ive been reading into that nomodeset treath , Im not getting there :( I get the flickering screen even before i come to the ubuntu install menu where you could press f6
[08:16] <Grmlng90> if i press f6 while its flickkering , it jumps black
[08:16] <filipsheva> 2
[08:16] <Cheznet> should i i paste on bumper
[08:16] <Slart> Cheznet: not sure about spaces in nicks though.. perhaps a _ instead
[08:16] <Cheznet> it i what ever ?
[08:17] <Slart> Cheznet: huh?
[08:17] <Cheznet> reboot yours
[08:18] <matzo> Slart: nohup ./video samples/sample & \n  - this is now running can you tell me how can I exit this script?
[08:18] <Slart> matzo: "kill" might work. You'll need the process id first
[08:18] <Grmlng90> should i try another version of ubuntu instead of the 13,04 , as i cant get to the menu where i can select nomodeset
[08:20] <Ace78> Greetings. Anyone avaiable for some help?
[08:20] <Grmlng90> anyone ?
[08:20] <Tex_Nick> Ace78 ask your question
[08:20] <Slart> matzo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8007380/how-to-kill-a-nohup-process
[08:21] <Slart> matzo: lots of good information in that thread
[08:21] <Ace78> I recently had a power failure. Now my Ubuntu Server 12.04 hangs at "Starting system log daemon"
[08:21] <matzo> Slart: tnx will look into it
[08:22] <Ace78> I can still boot into rescue mode and checked all hdd without discovering anything that caught my attention.
[08:22] <tinashe> Guys...Ubuntu guys...have an Idea...anyone thought of it...
[08:22] <Ampelbein> Ace78: Can you check if the /var/log/syslog file shows anything related?
[08:23] <bekks> tinashe: Yes, we did. We decided to use single . at the end of sentences, and no . withing them. :)
[08:23] <charcoil> to start off frist i need to change my whole ubuntu around
[08:23] <Grmlng90> I got the exact same issue as this guy , and i cant find a solution (exept my screen is not just black , its flashing lke crazy until i press f6 , then it goes all black..)
[08:23] <Grmlng90> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320712/how-do-i-fix-problem-with-trying-to-install-ubuntu-black-screen-appears
[08:23] <charcoil> thats for the start
[08:24] <charcoil> faster the beter they say
[08:24] <tinashe> bekks: sure...I wanted to ask if anyone from ubuntu could code two operating systems running parallel on each navigable desktop...
[08:24] <charcoil> quility not quantity
[08:24] <Ace78> Ampelbein: /var/log/syslog does not exist when booting into rescue mode
[08:24] <ghostnik11> crass: will do, I have used Tor before but don't they have it for tablet, but whether it is my laptop or tablet It doesn't matter as long as i can communicate with family is okay with me. Thanks for the help
[08:24] <Slart> tinashe: one computer, two screens and one operating system running on each?
[08:25] <NikP> Hi.
[08:25] <tinashe> bekks: as does the kubuntu addable desktops...maybe for fun or cline server programming...
[08:25] <tinashe> Slart: yes...
[08:25] <Slart> tinashe: look into virtualbox or vmware.. I think that's as close as you'll get at the moment
[08:25] <babinlonston1> is it possible to backup a system using dd command over a Local area network to other PC ? And can we restore it in future ?
[08:26] <tinashe> Slart: well that works too...but am talking of parallel dual boot...
[08:27] <Grmlng90> anyone who knows why i cant even get to the install menu where i can set the nomodeset ?
[08:27] <Grmlng90> please
[08:27] <NikP> If I want to add a online account for Google, the link is invalid and there stands: "Error: invalid_request Invalid response_type: code&access_type=offline&approval_prompt=force"
[08:27] <streulma> hey guys, how can I install Wayland on Ubuntu ?
[08:27] <Slart> tinashe: sounds like a great plan but it seems we're having enough problems just running one operating system at a time.. I think having two systems fightning for resources might be harder than what it's worth
[08:27] <NikP> How to add the account manual?
[08:28] <Slart> tinashe: if it's even possible with todays hardware
[08:28] <Ace78> Any other suggestions?
[08:29] <grimeton> tinashe: giving more than one process the possibility to manage the same piece of hardware never really worked out in the pc world
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, You want it in every boot?
[08:29] <grimeton> tinashe: boot DOS and you get exactly that
[08:29] <Ampelbein> Ace78: In rescue mode, try "/usr/sbin/rsyslogd -f /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf" to check your configuration
[08:29] <Grmlng90> No , im just trying to install Ubuntu , i have this graphic card issue (ati radeon hd6800) so my screen starts flickering before i can even install Ubuntu
[08:30] <Ace78> Hm. /usr/sbin/rsyslogd was not found
[08:30] <Ampelbein> Ace78: If /var/log/syslog doesn't exist at all that could point to a problem with rsyslogd's config. Check the /var/log folder for older syslog files (syslog.1 etc)
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, Have you looked at the ubuntu forums thread on nomodeset?
[08:30] <Grmlng90> so they suggested to select nomodeset in the 'install menu' after the grub , but i cant even get there as the screen starts flashing purple and white right after i select the 'install ubuntu' from grub
[08:30] <tosate> Hi there! There's a configuration file on my server which is rewritten every night so that my changes are gone. I would like to monitor this file and find out by which program it gets rewritten. Is that possible?
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, who suggests this, and use nicks.
[08:31] <Grmlng90> I have been reading this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[08:31] <Jordan_U> tosate: Which file?
[08:31] <Ampelbein> Ace78: What system are you running? What does "dpkg -l | grep syslog" show?
[08:31] <Grmlng90> so you got the title " How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)"
[08:31] <grimeton> tosate: yes
[08:31] <grimeton> tosate: look into inotify
[08:31] <tinashe> Slart: well, there are more and more cores for PCs, maybe updating the PC to 128bit for more registers...
[08:31] <Grmlng90> but that screen he shows on a picture in the thread , i cant even get there , as its flashing before that shows up (i think it tries to show this screen , but here is the graphic card issue already i guess=
[08:32] <grimeton> tosate: but before you start digging deeper - check if the change time and the time of the nightly cron job match ...
[08:32] <tinashe> grimeton: does not have to be a super computer...
[08:32] <streulma> is Mir also supported already ?
[08:32] <tosate> Jordan_U: It's a .qmail file which is rewritten by PLESK every night.
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, You edit the kernel by hitting e for edit at the first gui.
[08:32] <tosate> grimeton: I can't find a matching cron job
[08:33] <grimeton> tosate: then inotify is the way to go
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, or hit f5 and choose it.
[08:33] <Grmlng90> So in the black and white screen where i can select 'try ubuntu first '  or 'install ubuntu ?
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, yes
[08:33] <Slart> tinashe: I don't think we need more cores or registers... I think we need new hardware on the motherboard. This discussion is getting a bit offtopic though.. try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[08:33] <Grmlng90> ok COOL , gonna try that out
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> Grmlng90, Sorry f6 at that screen does it
[08:33] <Ace78> rc rsyslog 5.8.6-1ubuntu8.1
[08:33] <Grmlng90> ill come back to you  if that works (only got one pc so..) , and if it didnt ill come back too
[08:34] <Grmlng90> ah ok , i was following that manual and expecting to see that purple screen like in the picture , stupid of me
[08:34] <Grmlng90> see you in a minute , hopefully from IRC in ubuntu
[08:35] <Ampelbein> Ace78: Did you install a different syslog daemon?
[08:35] <Ace78> Ampelbein: I seem to have system-log-daemon
[08:36] <Ampelbein> Ace78: Is there a reason you chose that one over rsyslog?
[08:36] <Ace78> Ampelbein: trying to install rsyslog I am asked to remove klogd and sysklogd
[08:36] <tosate> grimeton: I'll give it a try. Thank you!
[08:37] <grimeton> tosate: look into the inotify-tools package
[08:37] <Ampelbein> Ace78: Well, yeah, rsyslog replaces those two and should be the default in Ubuntu.
[08:38] <Ace78> So am I supposed to install rsyslog instead?
[08:38] <Ampelbein> Ace78: That is what Ubuntu uses by default. Was that a fresh 12.04 install?
[08:39] <Ace78> I initially installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from scratch
[08:39] <Lever> how i update the command-not-found
[08:40] <Ampelbein> Ace78: Very strange. Install rsyslog, reboot and see if the system starts now.
[08:40] <Ace78> Ok. I need to add a nameserver first. How can it be done via shell?
[08:41] <Ace78> Got it.
[08:41] <pc_magas> Ace78, Of cource you need a namewserver
[08:42] <Ace78> I know I do
[08:42] <pc_magas> if it is to have a domain name under 2 ips (I think)
[08:42] <grimeton> Ace78: $EDITOR /etc/resolv.conf
[08:43] <pc_magas> Also servers are configured via terminal
[08:45] <Ace78> Looks good
[08:45] <tinashe> Slart: sure...got in java...leaving...
[08:45] <Ace78> I was already about to reinstall the system. You just saved my weekend
[08:45] <Slart> tinashe: ok, good luck! bye
[08:45] <tinashe> Slart: btw, what's the "quit" argument...
[08:45] <GIM> anyone had any trouble with tftp service on 13.04 ??? had to add "sleep 30" at start of default file
[08:46] <Slart> tinashe: /part
[08:46] <tinashe> Slart: thanks bye...
[08:47] <grimm90> Ok the nomodeset did work this way , whats great
[08:47] <grimm90> Im now at the
[08:48] <grimm90> Install screen 'something else' . I would lile ext4 , what do I usse as mount poimt ? Just / ?
[08:49] <bekks> grimm90: For the root filesystem, you have to use /
[08:50] <NikP> If I want to add a online account for Google, the link is invalid and there stands: "Error: invalid_request. Invalid response_type: code&access_type=offline&approval_prompt=force"
[08:50] <NikP> Is it an error in the source or can I add the account manual?
[08:51] <grimm90> Im afraid I dont fully understand that . So / as mount point iss ok to install the os on ? Or do you recommend something else ?
[08:51] <NikP> In the bugs archive for ubuntu-online-accounts nobody has my problem?
[08:52] <grimeton> anybody got a link to documentation related to /etc/ssl/ ?
[08:52] <babinlonston1> Is its possible to backup a HDD Using dd Command to a remote Location and restore it from that in future ?
[08:52] <grimeton> babinlonston1: yes and no
[08:52] <grimeton> babinlonston1: yes you can create an image
[08:53] <babinlonston1> How its Yes
[08:53] <NikP> Has anyone got my problem too?
[08:53] <grimeton> babinlonston1: but you can hit at ton of problems when you restore the plain image and the CHS aren't the same ...
[08:53] <babinlonston1> oh
[08:53] <grimeton> babinlonston1: i'd prefer a tarball OR you just put a filesystem on top of sparse file and backup that then
[08:53] <babinlonston1> ok
[08:54] <grimeton> babinlonston1: that way you never get in touch with the "real" hardware
[08:54] <grimeton> babinlonston1: think of it kinda like a container
[08:54] <babinlonston1> grimeton:  ok Sir
[08:54] <grimeton> babinlonston1: and really important: mount the filesystem r/o BEFORE doing the dump
[08:54] <grimeton> or at least flush the caches to disk
[08:54] <babinlonston1> oik
[08:55] <grimeton> babinlonston1: but think about using tar or rsync or whatever, it's the better choice
[08:55] <babinlonston1> ya its presently im using rsync
[08:55] <grimeton> babinlonston1: so what's the problem with it?
[08:55] <filipsheva> connect #debian
[08:56] <filipsheva> exit
[08:57] <babinlonston1> grimeton:  Always i used to install manually in my virtual machine so i asked that way
[08:58] <grimeton> babinlonston1: ah
[08:58] <babinlonston1> im using KVM and there are 10 Virtual machines running if any Users asking me to create new vm i need to do it manually , is it possible to automate like script ?
[08:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:59] <grimeton> babinlonston1: sure - if you google a bit you'll find tons of ways i guess
[08:59] <ShapeShifter499> can someone please point me to the latest ubuntu raring kernel I can obtain
[08:59] <deanrock0> hi, why can't I access samba shares from open file dialog if I "mount" them from nautilus->Network->browser network?
[08:59] <ShapeShifter499> I run raring and I just wanted to be sure I was on the latest and greatest kernel
[08:59] <grimeton> ShapeShifter499: should be the one in the tree
[09:00] <grimeton> ShapeShifter499: but you can get nightly builds of mainline kernels
[09:00] <babinlonston1> grimeton: hmmm ill
[09:00] <grimeton> ShapeShifter499: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[09:00] <ShapeShifter499> grimeton, tree?  sorry I'm more of a end user
[09:00] <grimeton> ShapeShifter499: in the package repo
[09:04] <ShapeShifter499> grimeton, uname -a shows 3.8.0-29    is that the latest stable kernel?
[09:04] <tosate> grimeton: Now, I am able to log changes to my monitored file. How do I determine which process altered the file?
[09:04] <grimeton> ShapeShifter499: on my raring machine the latest is -27 so i'd say: yes
[09:05] <ShapeShifter499> I was wondering because my system was freezing lately and I don't believe I installed anything to cause this, updating to xorg-edgers appears to have fixed the problem but time will only tell
[09:05] <ShapeShifter499> grimeton, thanks
[09:06] <rjknight1> anyone here know how to make a ubuntu proxy server for ubuntu clients to be able to update offline and download software offline?
[09:07] <Slart> rjknight1: isn't there an apt-proxy package or similar.. I recall using something like that a couple of years ago
[09:08] <rjknight1> @Slart similar to that. Do you have any link such us how-to, guides or any.
[09:09] <grimeton> rjknight1: that's called a mirror
[09:09] <Slart> rjknight1: not sure this is exactly what you want but here it is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[09:09] <grimeton> rjknight1: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[09:10] <bazhang> apt-mirror (source: apt-mirror): APT sources mirroring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9-1 (raring), package size 13 kB, installed size 103 kB    rjknight1 or perhaps this
[09:10] <charcoil> is there a app of some sort to keep track of the kde etc of everty app installed on this system
[09:11] <grimeton> charcoil: dpkg
[09:11] <charcoil> ty
[09:11] <rjknight1> @Slart @grimeton @bazhang Thanks! my goal is having a proxy server that may use by the clients offline updating and offline downloads of software.
[09:12] <grimeton> rjknight1: a nifty way would be to have a transparent proxy like squid that internally reroutes the requests to the ubuntu server to it's own repo
[09:12] <bazhang> rjknight1, no need for the @ , just tab complete
[09:13] <rjknight1> bazhang: there you go. :)
[09:13] <rjknight1> grimeton: let me try it.
[09:13] <rjknight1> anymore guidelines or tips?
[09:14] <nicofiore> salve
[09:14] <nicofiore> !list
[09:15] <charcoil> up dated protacocs m8
[09:15] <intellectus> Are X fonts still used in ubuntu?
[09:15] <charcoil> up dated protacols m8 i could use
[09:15] <intellectus> Also, where are the X fonts installed, if any?
[09:15] <nicofiore> salve
[09:15] <charcoil> if its fun yes
[09:16] <grimeton> intellectus: dpkg -l | grep -i font
[09:16] <charcoil> or still fun
[09:17] <intellectus> OK, so where are the X fonts installed in the system so i can check them out.
[09:17] <grimeton> intellectus: dpkg -l | grep xfonts | awk '{ print $2 }' | while read line; do dpkg -L "$line"; done | grep -E '^/usr.*' | sort | uniq | less
[09:19] <intellectus> grimeton: Thanks, that reavealed a few directories
[09:22] <intellectus> OK:   There's a good amount of fonts in /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi
[09:22] <intellectus> Do apps still use these fonts or are they safe to delete?
[09:22] <intellectus> Someone trie to tell me they're depreciated
[09:22] <grimeton> intellectus: i wouldn't delete 'em if I were you ...
[09:22] <intellectus> exactly what i thought
[09:23] <intellectus> i'll keep them and i also want to use them with xcb code.
[09:23] <grimeton> intellectus: feel free todo so
[09:24] <Grmlng90> Ok , nxt round of support needed . If got so far to install Ubuntu , its installed on a 65gig partition of my second HDD in ext4 , mount point / . Everything seemed to go alright until it was finished and asked for a reboot . Then i got this wicked screen with blue lines and some red squares . Got stuck there , hard rebooted pc , and it doesnt give me the option wich OS i want to load , it immediatly loads windows (installed on my prima
[09:24] <Grmlng90> ry SSD hd)
[09:25] <[Gentoo]> Grmlng90: looks like the bootloader didnt get installed
[09:25] <Grmlng90> dammed ,
[09:25] <Grmlng90> but that awfull trippy blue lined screen was normal ?
[09:26] <[Gentoo]> no
[09:26] <Grmlng90> mm , interssting , it looked like my pc was having  a seizure
[09:26] <[Gentoo]> that might be something to do with the livecd, are you using a nvidia card?
[09:27] <Grmlng90> ATI radeon hd 6800 , i had to put the nomodeset line or i couldnt install
[09:28] <Grmlng90> and i used a boot USB as my dvd drive is broken :(
[09:28] <harshadura> hi all, im getting weird error while installing Kubuntu 12.04.2 LTS version.
[09:28] <Grmlng90> on the partition screen of ubuntu in the install , i choose for Boat loader , the same as where my windows boot loader is ?
[09:29] <harshadura>  this is the error stacktrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5995519/
[09:29] <harshadura> basically it says : some keyboard layout issue,
[09:29] <pc_magas> Grmlng90, then use USB live cd again to install the frub first
[09:29] <pc_magas> Grmlng90, I think it is a HUGE MIstake
[09:29] <harshadura> can anyone help me, thanks
[09:30] <[Gentoo]> Grmlng90: you need to install it to the main drive, like /dev/sda
[09:30] <Grmlng90> owkay , enlighten me please , i try to do the best i can but its not an easy job
[09:30] <[Gentoo]> not sda1
[09:30] <[Gentoo]> or whatever
[09:30] <[Gentoo]> because "sda" is basically a very small partition at the start for the bootloader
[09:31] <Grmlng90> ok i think i went wrong there
[09:31] <grimeton> "sda" is the whole hard drive
[09:31] <grimeton> and the stage 0 loader is put into the mbr there
[09:31] <[Gentoo]> yes but you install the bootloader to "sda" because it starts before the main partitions
[09:31] <harshadura> pc_magas: got a min
[09:31] <Grmlng90> so should i try to go back into the ubuntu setup and switch the boot loader to /dev/sda ?
[09:32] <Grmlng90> this is all very complicated for a simple guy like me
[09:32] <grimeton> Grmlng90: is windows still booting?
[09:32] <[Gentoo]> Grmlng90: im pretty sure it should be selected by default
[09:32] <Grmlng90> yup , windows still works fine (typing from there now)
[09:32] <Grmlng90> then i dont understand what i did wrong if it was defautl , i didnt change it .
[09:32] <grimeton> Grmlng90: what bootloader did you see when you tried to start windows?
[09:33] <grimeton> Grmlng90: or did windows just start?
[09:33] <Grmlng90> nothing special , it went straigth to windows
[09:33] <Grmlng90> just like nothing else was installed
[09:33] <grimeton> Grmlng90: then you didn't change the MBR
[09:33] <grimeton> Grmlng90: (if there still is one)
[09:33] <Grmlng90> mbr ?
[09:33] <grimeton> Grmlng90: the thing is: if you install grub to sda, it will change the mbr and then - if this fails - it won't even boot into windows
[09:33] <Grmlng90> (im asking my wife to bring her laptop so i can get into this IRC , while i try the process again on this pc)
[09:34] <Grmlng90> well everything is backup on external drives , and i just clean installed the windows so as long as i can reformat its ok to mess it up i guess (rather not but you know what i mean)
[09:37] <grimeton> Grmlng90: yeah, so instead of booting from a cd/dvd and trying to repair the grub setup, I'd suggest you reinstall ubuntu and then let it write the grub stuff to the mbr of sda
[09:37] <flicher> test test
[09:37] <Grmlng90> ok thats me up here
[09:38] <Grmlng90> mbr = master bood record ?
[09:38] <Grmlng90> boot*
[09:38] <grimeton> Grmlng90: yes
[09:39] <Aravindgeek> Grmlng90: try supergrubdisk to boot to ubuntu and install grub2.
[09:39] <Grmlng90> allright , its not quiet clear yet to me (thanks a million anyway for helping a noob like me) , im going to try to reinstall , and when im at the partition screen ill ask if needed (flicher)
[09:40] <flicher> so that supergrubdisk , i could make a bootable usb , get into ubuntu and change the grub to grub 2 ?
[09:41] <grimeton> flicher: yeah, but in grmlng90's case it's "easier" to reinstall
[09:41] <flicher> (dvd drive is dead)
[09:41] <ind> hi
[09:42] <ind> grub install
[09:42] <flicher> but if i start up from the ubuntu boot usb , it seems to be already grub2 ? or amm i wrong
[09:43] <grimeton> flicher: grub2 where?
[09:43] <Aravindgeek> flicher : i said install not to change . since grub2 is not properly installed
[09:43] <deanrock0> any idea what can i do if i get "conflicting gb hw usage nouveau vs EFI VGA removing generic driver" and pc freezes on boot?
[09:44] <flicher> black and white screen i get , when it tries to boot from usb . Could be i am just getting messed up confused
[09:46] <Aravindgeek> flicher : ubuntu disk or supergrubdisk
[09:46] <Grmlinger90> im just using the ubuntu iso , burned with unetbootin to usb drive
[09:46] <Grmlinger90> 23.04
[09:46] <Grmlinger90> 13.04 sry
[09:47] <Grmlinger90> (flicher is dead , its me now)
[09:48] <Grmlinger90> ok so Erase ubuntu and reinstall , or do i go to 'something else' ? I would like to be able to choose file format myself
[09:48] <Aravindgeek> fileformat= filesystem type ? if so choose something else
[09:49] <Grmlinger90> in something else it says now /dev/sda1 - 104mb windows 7 (loader) . While 'device for boot loader installation' is by default on /dev/sda
[09:51] <Aravindgeek> k
[09:51] <Grmlinger90> ubuntu itself is installed on a partition of my second HD , so /dev/sdb6
[09:52] <Grmlinger90> /dev/sdb5 is 4gig swap (needed?)
[09:53] <eduardo> dont know what channel to go with problem upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10... i got stuck in the middle of the upgrading process
[09:53] <Kelvin> hi
[09:53] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: the idea is that on a reinstall the grub-scripts are better able to figure out what boot setup you have than some "outside" os
[09:54] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: just reinstall it the way you did before
[09:54] <eduardo> and dont know how to complete upgrading...
[09:56] <blazemore> eduardo: can you run "sudo do-release-upgrade" from a terminal? If you get errors please put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <Grmlinger90> so just to double check , current setup is /dev/sda = nothing /dev/sda1 NTFS  104mb windows 7 loader . /dev/sda2 = windows itself
[09:56] <Grmlinger90> /dev/sdb5 = swap (4gig) , /dev/sdb6 = ext4 Ubuntu , /Dev/sdb3 = NTFS (for data for all OS)
[09:57] <Grmlinger90> Boot loader /dev/sda
[09:57] <DrDigital> i installed debian, no problem
[09:57] <Grmlinger90> or should that be /dev/sda1 , where the windows boot loader is
[09:57] <DrDigital> now I'm running the ubuntu live cd… and its running as id expect it to
[09:57] <DrDigital> WEIRD
[09:58] <eduardo> blazemore it says havent found any new version
[09:58] <blazemore> eduardo: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue" ?
[09:58] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: sda not sda1
[09:58] <Grmlinger90> ok ill try
[09:58] <blazemore> DrDigital: Why is that weird? Do you have a support question?
[09:59] <Cyrax> hi all. i have a question about ubuntu and this desktop rotation nad make desktop as cube. i heard i needed a powerful graphic card or video card to do it.. what kind?
[09:59] <eduardo> blazemore: i faced this problem first of all https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1207809
[09:59] <DrDigital> blazemore because i spent hours trying to do this… and kept getting flickering display
[09:59] <Cyrax> *and
[09:59] <blazemore> eduardo: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue" ?
[09:59] <Grmlinger90> and for the /dev/sdb6 , mount point just ' / ' right ?
[09:59] <DrDigital> over an hour ago some people here where all talking about same problem… and i decided to try to install a different OS then ubuntu and it made my issue go away
[10:00] <DrDigital> i could not get the ubuntu live cd to boot
[10:00] <Grmlinger90> (the one where i want ubuntu installed ,all my files will be on external disks anyway)
[10:00] <eduardo> blazemore : Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[10:00] <DrDigital> it start and then my screen would flicker
[10:00] <blazemore> eduardo: OK, now then run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:00] <fuzzybunny69y> hey guys I know this isn't really related to ubuntu but with php if it is returning a umask value of 018 what does that mean?
[10:01] <blazemore> fuzzybunny69y: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask
[10:02] <eduardo> blazemore : after sudo upgrade it says: 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
[10:02] <blazemore> eduardo: It seems the upgrade worked fine then
[10:02] <eduardo> 0 upgraded, 0 going to install, 0 to delete and 0 not updated
[10:03] <Grmlinger90> dr digital ,i had the same issue , i got it solved by the nomodeset code piece ,
[10:03] <eduardo> blazemore: as said before i faced the bug i put before, as they say i made room in  my boot partition deltetin one old kernel
[10:03] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: it will be / automagically
[10:03] <Grmlinger90> aight , thx
[10:03] <ishwon> hey folks
[10:04] <Senor> who is farmiliar with ubuntu `precise version ?
[10:05] <grimeton> Senor: just ask your question
[10:05] <Cyrax> So are there any graphic card or video card i need to have to make sure i cna rotate ubuntu desktop and make it as cube? and if so.. what kind?
[10:05] <eduardo> then i run the upgrading process with some errors....in ubuntu-desktop and linux-image-extra-3.8.0.27-generic-3.8.0.27.40
[10:06] <Grmlinger90> 'installation failed' following file did not match its source copy on the cd/dvd . /target/uer/share/icons/highcontrast/icon-theme.cache
[10:06] <eduardo> so the process was interrumped, and message thats system was probably broken....they were lots of packages left to install
[10:06] <Grmlinger90> the installation usb is corrupt ? or can i just skip it
[10:07] <Grmlinger90> retry seems to fix it
[10:07] <eduardo> finally with synayptic i was able to reinstall this packages....but i think that many packages were left in the way...
[10:09] <Senor> grimeton: I am trying to install systemtap on my ubuntu server ,which is of precise version .as you know systemtap need dbgsym installed ,bu I can not find bdgsym package for precise version anywhere .
[10:09] <Cyrax> Anyone that can tell me what kind of video card i need to b able to use this desktop rotation on ubuntu? I got NVidia GeForce GT 620
[10:10] <grimeton> Senor: the debug symbols of what?
[10:10] <Senor> grimeton: kernel ,of course .
[10:10] <Cyrax> But NVidia GeForce GT 620 is on my windows 8 64 bit nad i have ubuntu as second os,but it runs from a dvd
[10:11] <grimeton> Senor: then just install the debugging symbols of the current kernel
[10:11] <Argh> huhu Neunter :)
[10:12] <Senor> grimeton :  does the dbgsym package exist for ubuntu precise version
[10:12] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[10:12] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[10:12] <kharemohit> hello
[10:12] <grimeton> Senor: if you run the precise kernel you should be able to get the debug symbols of that kernel - yes
[10:12] <Senor> grimeton:I have not find it yet!
[10:13] <kharemohit> im getting the gpg error in openprinting.org...can anyone help me? im not able to update and also i cant install nythng because of this...:(
[10:14] <grimeton> Senor: if you don't do some nasty tricks you won't be able to run the precise kernel and debug symbols on your setup
[10:14] <grimeton> Senor: install the debug symbols of the currently running kernel and be happy, or does the package explicitly depend on those debug symbols?
[10:15] <Senor> grimeton:Chould you tell me how to install the debug symbols of current kernel
[10:15] <Senor> grimeton:yes
[10:17] <grimeton> Senor: search for linux-image and then grep for "dbg"
[10:17] <grimeton> Senor: apt-cache search linux-image | grep dbg
[10:18] <Senor> grimeton:I have done this work .it showed me dbgsym of  generic version ,but it does not match my precise version.
[10:19] <grimeton> Senor: just for me to get this straight: you're running precise and the precise kernel and need the precise kernel debug symbols?
[10:21] <Grmlinger90> ok ubuntu install is complete , asked for reboot , again got those weird vertical blue lines for a second
[10:21] <Senor> grimeton:yes
[10:21] <Senor> grimeton:sure.
[10:21] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: hit space when you see those lines and see if you get a prompt
[10:22] <Grmlinger90> it was gone in half a second this time before reboot , last time it stayed until i hard shutdown
[10:22] <Grmlinger90> im gonna try booting from hard drive now
[10:22] <dani> hola
[10:22] <Grmlinger90> nope , again straigth into windows :/
[10:22] <dani> hello
[10:23] <Guest36280> hay alguien que me pueda ayudar con linux??
[10:23] <pc_magas> Grmlinger90, try tro boot over live cd or live USb
[10:23] <grimeton> Senor: you have to add the ddebs repo to your config to get the debug symbol packages
[10:23] <pc_magas> first
[10:23] <Guest36280> hola bon dia
[10:24] <Grmlinger90> i just notice something weird , my second HD doesnt show up in the boot priority menu in UEFI
[10:24] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: uargh, you're running uefi and got a gpt part table?
[10:24] <grimeton> Senor: you need help with that?
[10:25] <sparklr> what is the password to be used for sudo, terminal, updates, etc when a particular user is being logged in without a password ?
[10:25] <grimeton> sparklr: there is none, do a sudo su -
[10:25] <grimeton> sparklr: then change it
[10:25] <Grmlinger90> im not sure what a gpt part table is , but this pc has a uefi setup utility im afraid :/
[10:25] <Senor> grimeton:I have add the ddebs repo
[10:25] <eduardo> blazemore: its ok in your opinion ?? in suse using yast to upgrade...it left a log file with all the  movements...its there any similar here ubuntu ?
[10:26] <Grmlinger90> in the hard drive bbs priorities menu , i can see my other hard drive and select that one to be first ..
[10:26] <grimeton> Senor: but not working?
[10:26] <Grmlinger90> and then it gets up in the boot option menu , but the other is gone
[10:26] <Senor> grimeton: yes
[10:26] <Senor> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com precise main restricted universe multiverse
[10:26] <Senor> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:26] <Senor> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:26] <Senor> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com precise-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[10:26] <FloodBot1> Senor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <grimeton> Grmlinger90: yeah, booting uefi with a different partition table is a bit more tricky - haven't done that till now
[10:27] <Senor> grimeton:here is it
[10:27] <Senor> I have pastered it
[10:27] <grimeton> Senor: you also added the repo key?
[10:27] <sparklr> grimeton:  i did a "sudo su -"  it asks for a password
[10:27] <Grmlinger90> ok so thats where the issue is i guess - Maybe its better i start a topic on the forum and see what comes from there ?
[10:27] <root_> ...
[10:27] <grimeton> sparklr: that's the user's password you're logged on as
[10:27] <root_> sudo su-
[10:27] <root_> passwd
[10:27] <Senor> grimeton: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 428D7C01
[10:28] <root_> then you will get a root permission
[10:28] <sparklr> grimeton: i dont have any password set as this user account is LOG IN WITHOUT A PASSWORD
[10:28] <grimeton> sparklr: then set one
[10:28] <grimeton> sparklr: no way around that
[10:28] <root_> so you will be unsafe
[10:29] <root_> set one
[10:29] <sparklr> grimeton: okay :/
[10:29] <sparklr> root_: lol
[10:29] <root_> ?
[10:29] <sparklr> so you will be UNsafe
[10:29] <Grmlinger90> im gonna make a topic on the forum , too tierd to try more today . Anyway thanks alot , didnt thnk to mention to uefi , my bad
[10:29] <grimeton> Senor: and now you can't find the matching debgsym package?
[10:29] <Senor> grimeton:yes ,
[10:31] <grimeton> Senor: can you run a apt-cache search linux-image | grep dbg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:31] <grimeton> and then paste the url here?
[10:32] <Senor> grimeton:ok
[10:34] <xkernel> how to print all environment variables that are defined in the current session?
[10:34] <grimeton> xkernel: set
[10:35] <xkernel> grimeton, how?
[10:35] <grimeton> xkernel: ? write "set" in the shell and then press enter
[10:35] <xkernel> grimeton, it printed a script
[10:35] <grimeton> xkernel: yeah, those are the vars of the current session
[10:36] <grimeton> xkernel: on the left side of the "=" is the name and on the right side the value
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> xkernel:  scripts (well alias's ) can be in varables :) they can get quite big.
[10:36] <xkernel> wow
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> bash completion is rather complex :)
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> adds a lot of things to set output
[10:37] <grimeton> xkernel: set | sed -E 's/^([^=]*).*/\1/g'
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> regular expressions to the rescue!
[10:38] <xkernel> grimeton, thanks that was helpful
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> i almost know them enough to understand what that one does grimeton  ;)
[10:38] <grimeton> Dr_Willis: feel free to read one of the many books that have been published
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> grimeton:  i have :) and  still only know the basics.. but then again. when you only use the stuff once every other month.....
[10:39] <vlitomsk> Hello
[10:39] <djyou> Hello all
[10:39] <grimeton> Dr_Willis: i'm using sed for a lot of things ...
[10:40] <Senor> grimeton: here is the output ,http://pastebin.ca/2432941
[10:40] <vlitomsk> does everybody know how to check is any updates available after `apt-get update`?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> got Oreialys book on Sed and Awk also. :)  gotta love good books
[10:40] <vlitomsk> without apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:40] <vlitomsk> or apt-get upgrade
[10:40] <grimeton> Senor: and there isn't a file that matches your version? what does uname -a show?
[10:40] <djyou> Can one of you explain to my viewers that CLI is for servers not hacking?
[10:40] <grimeton> Dr_Willis: learning by doing - best book you can get
[10:41] <grimeton> (at least for regex)
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:  noticed if you login to the console it tells you theres updates avail. thats handled by a script somewhere - i looked into it once ages ago.
[10:42] <vlitomsk> Dr_Willis, oh, thank you :) you're very observant
[10:42] <Senor> grimeton:uname -a shows : Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:  i just cant recall what command its running. its some pyton script thats somewhere deep in some system dir  i recall
[10:42] <vlitomsk> Dr_Willis, I'll see ~/.bashrc
[10:42] <grimeton> Senor: maybe you want to have a look at line number 23 of your paste?
[10:43] <vlitomsk> but there's nothing about 'update' :(
[10:43] <No223> hey guys, at first excuse my english, im from germany and im a beginnner with ubuntu.. i have installed the program PlayOnLinux for playing the game League of Legends. as i started the game he started a 'windows-Mono-Installation' and show me proprietary drivers(sorry dont know the exact english term) i activate one and then i have rebooted my ubuntu. i tried to play the game but the graphic bugged a bit.
[10:44] <allm> anyone know how to learn python?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:  i dont think its in .bashrc  i seem to recall it was somehow related to the motd tools. but i cant recall where i found it at befor
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> allm:  get a book on it.. and read it.. then start using it
[10:44] <grimeton> visualise: apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[10:44] <allm> give me some adv.
[10:44] <Senor> grimeton:It is of 3.5.0-23-generic ,but my kernel is 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1
[10:44] <grimeton> vlitomsk: ^
[10:44] <grimeton> vlitomsk: just do the dry run ;)
[10:44] <sparklr> can anyone help me with this problem ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/333695/signature-not-found-in-user-keyring-perhaps-try-the-interactive-ecryptfs-mount
[10:44] <No223> i opened the propriertary drivers window again and activated another driver
[10:44] <Senor> grimeton: attention on #35~precise1
[10:44] <vlitomsk> grimeton,  WOW thanks :)
[10:45]  * Tex_Nick questions the etymology of "regular expression" ... thinking they may be the most irregular notation expressible @^@
[10:45] <grimeton> Senor: don't see the problem, just install the package
[10:45] <No223> but now in the right-hand corner stand 'unsupported hardware'. so, how can i see which proprietary driver i need?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> !python | allm
[10:45] <Senor> grimeton:I have installed it ,but systemtap check failed for not matching with kernel
[10:46] <grimeton> Senor: then systemtap isn't seeing the expected kernel version i guess
[10:46] <grimeton> Senor: without any proper error details we can't help you
[10:47] <Senor> grimeton:Do you mean this is a systemtap's bug?
[10:47] <grimeton> Senor: at least an issue of systemtap - yes
[10:48] <No223> hey guys, at first excuse my english, im from germany and im a beginnner with ubuntu.. i have installed the program PlayOnLinux for playing the game League of Legends. as i started the game he started a 'windows-Mono-Installation' and show me proprietary drivers(sorry dont know the exact english term) i activate one and then i have rebooted my ubuntu. i tried to play the game but the graphic bugged a bit.  i opened the propriertary driv
[10:48] <No223> another driver. but now in the right-hand corner stand 'unsupported hardware'. so, how can i see which proprietary driver i need?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:   /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:  thats called by the motd updateing tools :) to add it to the motd
[10:48] <vlitomsk> Dr_Willis, thanks, i'll read about motd
[10:48] <grimeton> vlitomsk: just keep the system load above 2.00, then it's disabled
[10:49] <vlitomsk> i need updates count to modify my ~/.conkyrc :)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:  /etc/update-motd.d  has some neat things ;)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> vlitomsk:  that would be fairly easy to add to a conky rc with that  /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available
[10:49] <pl2> Hello, I have these windows that keeps starting automatically whenever I boot my system. Where should I look in order to remove these applications from starting?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> !autorun
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> !autostrt
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[10:50] <grimeton> vlitomsk: apt-get -s dist-upgrade | grep -E '^[Inst|Conf].*' | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort | uniq | wc -l
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> pl2:  ~/.config/autostart/  or /etc/xdg/autostart/
[10:51] <pl2> Dr_Willis, thank you!
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> pl2:  it depends on what desktop and whats starting also.
[10:52] <vlitomsk> grimeton, thanks!
[10:53] <sparklr> can anyone help me with this problem ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/333695/signature-not-found-in-user-keyring-perhaps-try-the-interactive-ecryptfs-mount ?
[10:53] <pl2> Dr_Willis, it's Document Viewer, It's trying to open pdfs that no longer exist and is causing problems
[10:54] <pl2> Dr_Willis, looks like Document Viewer isn't listed in that file. Any other locations?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> pl2:  if you got a pdf file or somthing in one of those locations it may be trying to 'open it'
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> pl2:  or its rembering a saved session
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> !session
[10:58] <Guest57321> hello
[10:58] <pl2> Dr_Willis, Yeah that was it. Document Viewer is listed in some sessions files. Thanks again :)
[10:58] <Guest57321> I have a question
[10:58] <Guest57321> how to use the ubuntu sdk
[10:59] <No223> nice irc chat where nobody helps someone.
[10:59] <No223> lol
[11:00]  * Dr_Willis missed the no helping bit...
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> seems theres lots of help in the last few hrs ive been here.
[11:01] <No223> hm never mind im gonna install windows, problem solved.
[11:01] <No223> bye
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> No223:  we will still send you a bill.
[11:02]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[11:02] <kostas5> hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help with a 12.04 installation problem. I've posted a description here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168036
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> kostas5  looks like a !nomodeset issue
[11:05] <kostas5> MonkeyDust: Thanks! Yes that's what I've been told, any ideas about how to approach it?
[11:05] <Cyrax> Sorry i didnt see if any answered my question.. was busy elsewhere.. what kind of video card do i need to b able to have chance to roate ubuntu desktop and form it as a cube?
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | kostas5 start here
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> Cyrax:  most all of them can do the cube feature if they have supported 3d drivers.. you really need that cube that badly? its a rather pointless bit of eyecandy.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Cyrax:  i would stick with nvidia, then intel, and well if you cant help it.. ati.. (in that order) stick to older cards that have been out a while (like  year), Avoid the Optimus  dual gpu setups.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Cyrax:  and definatly run away from anything 'S3'
[11:07] <kostas5> MonkeyDust: The problem is that I cannot access the Grub menu
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Cyrax  the cube is nice for screencasts and screenshots, but it gets annoying quite fast
[11:09] <cartusia> what software is there to remove DRM from your own stuff? I have some files that were prucahed in Itunes is there anything in the FOSS world that might help me in that respect?
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> plus the cube and unity can cause conflicts ;)
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  you may have to track down some windows tools and run them in wine. (if they exist)
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  ive definatly never seen mentioned in here any open sourced itune drm removal tools.
[11:13] <kostas5> MonkeyDusk: apologies for the d/c I might have missed your reply. The solution in the link suggests accessing the grub menu. However this does not work for me as mentioned in my post. The grub menu does not load automatically, nor when I hold the shift key down
[11:14] <kostas5> MonkeyDust *
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> kostas5  try esc or ctrl to enter the grub menu
[11:15] <kostas5> MonkeyDust: thanks, let me try that
[11:16] <cartusia> Dr_Willis you are so helpful are you getting paid for this? Just wondering you definitely deserve a medal :)
[11:16] <usr13> cartusia: He works for pizza and beer.
[11:17] <cartusia> ahaha :)
[11:18] <usr13> (Joking asside, they are all volunteers...:)
[11:20] <kostas5> MonkeyDust: I tried ESC after the bios logo, and I get 3 options: 2. IDE CD, 6. IDE HDD, and Enter Setup
[11:24] <hemkka> can someone help me? how can i search files from my computer in ubuntu?
[11:24] <Senor> grimeton:How about that  I reinstall a matched kernel version for systemtap?
[11:24] <Senor> grimeton:And then install the matched dbgsym package?
[11:25] <usr13> kostas5: locate or find
[11:26] <usr13> kostas5: locate is a command-line file search utility. To make sure its cache is up to date run: sudo updatedb
[11:27] <kostas5> usr13: I think you are referring to hemkka 's question
[11:28] <usr13> kostas5: Sorry. Looks like hemkka is gone so..
[11:28] <kostas5> usr13: no worries, perhaps you can help with my query? :)
[11:29] <usr13> kostas5: "cannot access grub menu?"
[11:29] <usr13> kostas5: What kind of computer is it?
[11:29] <kostas5> usr13: exactly
[11:29] <kostas5> usr13: VAIO laptop
[11:29] <usr13> kostas5: Do you see post go by?
[11:30] <kostas5> usr13: post?
[11:32] <usr13> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test
[11:34] <santhosh> wine is support for centos 64 bit
[11:34] <kostas5> usr13: I just see that bios logo and that's it. Next thing is a black screen with a blinking pixel
[11:35] <kostas5> or underscore I should say
[11:35] <usr13> kostas5: UEFI?
[11:37] <kostas5> usr13: yes, I can access the boot menu settings
[11:37] <usr13> kostas5: What did you install?  Was it Ubuntu 13.04?
[11:38] <kostas5> usr: 12.04
[11:38] <kostas5> usr13: 12.04
[11:40] <usr13> kostas5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140088  #Scroll to bottom, (look at last post).
[11:41] <kostas5_> usr13: sorry I got d/c, might have lost your last message
[11:42] <usr13> kostas5: YOu tried Shift key.  Right?  And Ctrl and Esc keys.  (Other than that look at the BIOS options and see how it is booting, change as needed).
[11:42] <santhosh>  <santhosh> wine is support for centos 64 bit
[11:43] <kostas5_> usr13: I tried shift and ctrl: they do nothing. Esc gets me to the boot menu settings, I am not sure what how I am supposed to change the boot settings. It is supposed to boot from the hard drive which is enabled and in the boot order...
[11:44] <usr13> kostas5_: From boot menu settings, select the HD you installed on.
[11:44] <usr13> kostas5_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[11:45] <usr13> kostas5_: This is a fresh install?
[11:45] <kostas5_> usr13: as fresh as it gets
[11:47] <usr13> kostas5_: Did you install as dual boot?
[11:48] <usr13> kostas5_: Or, did you just wipe all that was there and install Ubuntu only?
[11:49] <usr13> kostas5_: You may need to boot the install media again and go through the "restore grub" process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[11:49] <santhosh> what is the problem <usr13>
[11:50] <usr13> santhosh: He only gets blinking _  after post.
[11:50] <linu> hi i have installed sam-ba 2.12 in my ubuntu 12.04 host,i have own shared network in my concern and mounted that in /mnt/vshare, when i trying to flash the files through sam-ba, i just opened browser in sam-ba to select files,but it showed empty at the same time there are files in /mnt/vshare when opened through terminal, what is that issues
[11:50] <usr13> santhosh: (Cant get into grub menu.)
[11:51] <santhosh> it is grub problem ot drivers or not support for that
[11:51] <usr13> santhosh:   ot drivers?
[11:51] <usr13> ot?
[11:51] <santhosh> which version he installed
[11:51] <usr13> 12.04
[11:52] <banzounet> Hey, how can I know the version of a pakage with apt-get? (Not one installed) I mean I want to install foo but I want to know first the version of foo what's the command for that?
[11:52] <usr13> banzounet: apt-cache policy
[11:52] <santhosh> foo -v
[11:52] <santhosh> foo -version
[11:53] <santhosh>  <usr13> just install 12.10 i think it may be cd oriblem
[11:54] <banzounet> usr13: thanks
[11:54] <sahil_> is nvdia driver version 3.10.x safe or ubuntu 12.04?
[11:54] <sahil_> for*
[11:55] <FergusL> Hi, I've installed acpi-support, added the acpi= line in grub config but I can't find the right tools for the computer backlight, also acpid_fakekeyd isn't running and isn't even installed. What could I have missed ?
[11:57] <usr13> Have to go now....
[11:59] <kostas5> I just installed 12.04 but it won't boot. How I can get past the black screen and solve the problem when I cannot access the grub menu? Summary here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168036
[12:00] <sahil_> if i download a deb file for debian sid,will it be compatible with ubuntu 12.04?
[12:01] <jrib> sahil_: you should not do that.  Why do you want to do that?
[12:01]  * grimeton tosses the dice
[12:01] <grimeton> sahil_: no
[12:02] <sahil_> myy pc dont have a fast net connection recently...i want to get the latest 0ad game..but unfortunately its available only via ppa...
[12:02] <jrib> sahil_: go on
[12:03] <rebbecajohnson20> Hy evrybody
[12:03] <rebbecajohnson20> Ym back
[12:03] <sahil_> will it work? i just need the data file,~ 300 mb

[12:03] <jrib> sahil_: I still don't see why you don't use the ppa.
[12:04] <jrib> (which is meant for your ubuntu version)
 my pc dont have a fast internet connection at the moment
[12:04] <mintuser> I am using an ubuntu derivative and am having the same problem a lot of ubuntu users are having.  all of a sudden I lost all sound and the network manager and on reboot at login got a messag"cannot open ConsoleKit session"e saying
[12:05] <jrib> sahil_: so?  How would using a debian deb help?
[12:05] <jrib> !mint | mintuser
[12:05] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:05] <mintuser> I have, but all the folks with the same identical problem as me are ubuntu users.
[12:06] <rebbecajohnson20> Hi shapeshifter499
[12:06] <jrib> mintuser: if you want to install ubuntu or use a live cd and replicate the issue on there, we can help you here; otherwise mint is not the same distro and the folks in mint support can help you better.
[12:06] <santhosh> hai
 i can go over a internet cafe and grab the file...if ubuntu based deb files are available...ca you please provide the link...
[12:06] <Bradford> hi
[12:06] <mintuser> it is apparently a common problem with ubuntu users
[12:06] <jrib> sahil_: you can do the same for the ppa.  Also see !ppa
[12:06] <jrib> !offline | sahil_
[12:06] <mintuser> well there is nobody at linuxmint-help who has seen the problem before or who can help.
[12:06] <oupateddie> my duo core is on 13.04 with kernel 3.5.10 loaded. It keeps crashing and then restarts. What could be the problem.. Any help
[12:07] <mintuser> and it is a very common problem for ubuntu users
[12:07] <jrib> sahil_: sorry, I meant "see !offline".  You can use one of those tools that ubottu mentions or you can grab the .deb yourself manually (YOU MUST MAKE SURE THEY ARE MEANT FOR YOUR UBUNTU VERSION).  You can do this for the ppa through its homepage on launchpad for example.  You must also download all dependencies manually.  The tools ubottu mentions make this easier
[12:07] <mintuser> ubottu what is irc.spotchat.org
[12:07] <kostas5> How can I access the grub menu if it's hidden and does not show even after pressing the shift key?
[12:07] <jrib> mintuser: I believe that's the network mint support is located
[12:08] <mintuser> everyone says the only people who would be able to help would be the folks at #ubuntu
[12:08] <mintuser> I guess they are wrong
[12:08] <ShapeShifter499> I need some help quick, my system is freezing up on me and I get about 30min to a hour (or more if I'm lucky) eventually though my system will lock up, how do I go about diagnosing this???      My system is a Acer Aspire 7540 running Ubuntu 13.04 64bit with a ATI Radeon HD 4200 GPU and a AMD Athlon II X2 M300 CPU
[12:08] <jrib> mintuser: like I said, replicate the issue on ubuntu and we can troubleshoot from there.
[12:08] <mintuser> I don't have the resources to do so
 okey m trying...
[12:09] <mintuser> this is on a mission-critical system and I dont have any extra computers to try it on
[12:09] <jrib> mintuser: then your best course of action is to ask for support in your distro's support channel.  They know the distro.  We don't know mint; we don't know what changes mint makes.
[12:09] <ShapeShifter499> it will lockup and nothing but a hard reboot will work, not even the "Alt+SysRq+R+E+I+S+U+B" combo will work
[12:09] <oupateddie> ShapeShifter499 I'm sitting with similar problem
[12:09] <mintuser> I just thought since it is such a common problem for ubuntu users you might have heard of a solution that worked for them
[12:10] <ShapeShifter499> oupateddie, have you found anything?
[12:10] <joseph^> hey guys, any idea how to pipe the output of vlc to an  input device?
[12:10] <oupateddie> No geez I'm so down at this stage, whatever I am doing its becoming worse. I have installe kernel 3.5.10 already
[12:10] <mintuser> jrib how many times do I have to tell you that nobody there can help me so after a long time I finally came here thinking someone nice who had dealt with the problem before would give me a clue of what solutions had worked with ubuntu
[12:10] <ShapeShifter499> oupateddie, I just saw your messages just before mine lol
[12:11] <jrib> mintuser: for the last time, mint isn't supported here
[12:11] <oupateddie> ShapeShifter499 I am at sixes. The machine keeps freezing and then reboots
[12:11] <mintuser> wow this has at least answered one question.   ubuntu is the distro to avoid due to attitude problems
[12:11] <ShapeShifter499> oupateddie, I thought it maybe xorg so I installed the latest stuff from xorg-edgers, that didn't help
[12:11] <joseph^> ive tried in also, pulseaudio and jack already
[12:11] <joseph^> im sure ive missed something simple though
[12:11] <joseph^> *asla
[12:12] <oupateddie> ShapeShifter499 tried that as well, installed new DIMMS which I thought was a problem, no go
[12:12] <ShapeShifter499> oupateddie, mine will just freeze and do nothing till I hard reboot it by holding down the power button
[12:12] <jrib> mintuser: well I'm sorry you see it that way.  It just doesn't make sense to support derivatives here because we aren't aware of changes made.  The support channel for the derivative is the best place for users of that distro to get help.
[12:12] <oupateddie> ShapeShifter499 ditto
[12:12] <dodel> Hello! Will ordinary software(etc. Libreoffice, Freecad, Arduino, QT designer) work on ubuntu tablet?
[12:13] <DJones> mintuser: If you install Ubuntu, people here will be happy to help you, however although Mint may be based on Ubuntu, its developers make changes and use different repo's, therefore we're not able to support it
[12:13] <joseph^> dodel, they had better
[12:13] <mintuser> I simply asked if anyone here had seen a successful solution for this very common ubuntu problem that it seems in my case (I know of no others) mint inherited.
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !tablet | dodel
[12:13] <oupateddie> ShapeShifter499 sometimes it starts flashing two lights on the keyboard then reboots after 30 sec, then just freezes at other times
[12:13] <dodel> joseph^ what do you mean?
[12:14] <mintuser> I am not asking for a mint solution!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am asking if anyone here knows of a solution  that has worked on ubuntu since the problem is common on ubuntu.
[12:14] <joseph^> dodel, i would hope so being a full distro
[12:14] <ShapeShifter499> oupateddie, no just freeze, I first discovered this when I came home to a frozen comp
[12:14] <joseph^> nobody knows how to pipe vlc audio to a virtual input device with asla or pulseaudio?
[12:14] <oupateddie> I have searched all over and whatever I found tried it, but now it is even worse.
[12:15] <dodel> joseph^ but so Libreoffice, FreeCAD, QT designer, ArduinoIDE do not working on ubuntu tablets?
[12:15] <mintuser> the problem being the cluster of the "cannot open ConsoleKit session" message on login at the same time as a total loss of sound and network manager.
[12:15] <joseph^> dodel, i dont know
[12:15] <dodel> ok thanks anyway!
[12:15] <oupateddie> ShapeShifter499 Thought somebody here might know what to do
[12:15] <ShapeShifter499> oupateddie, me too
[12:15] <siva_> hi
[12:15] <jrib> mintuser: the best place to look for known solutions to a bug is http://bugs.ubuntu.com (or maybe forums.ubuntu.com) since you can search historical data there.  If it's a common issue, then your best bet is to probably find the bug on launchpad for it
[12:15] <oupateddie> lets ask the question again
[12:15] <oupateddie> my duo core is on 13.04 with kernel 3.5.10 loaded. It keeps crashing and then restarts. What could be the problem.. Any help
[12:15] <mintuser> but clearly like missionaries from certain religious groups you have to join or be fully ostracized.
[12:16] <jrib> mintuser: please keep the chat support related.
[12:16] <cgtdk> !details | oupateddie
[12:16] <Guest86443> why my name is Guest86443
[12:16] <Guest86443> How to change my name
[12:16] <mintuser> I found many mentions of it in both of those places, but the solutions mentioned didn't work and others were not solve.
[12:16] <ElFizbanio> Guest86443, because you're a scrub
[12:16] <joseph^> Guest86443, type /nick newnickname
[12:16] <boxmein> Guest86443: /nick <nickname>
[12:16] <cgtdk> Guest86443: siva_ is probably a registered name and nickserv changed it because you didn't log in.
[12:16] <mintuser> that is what initially gave me the idea of coming here
[12:17] <Guest86443> where i have log in
[12:17] <oupateddie> I have a problem with my ubuntu 13.04 with kernel 3.5.10 . The machine keeps freezing up
[12:17] <santhosh> hai
[12:17] <jrib> mintuser: ok, that's your answer then.  If you want to troubleshoot the issue further (which is what irc is good for), you would need an ubuntu system to troubleshoot on (for help here)
[12:17] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Why are you running kernel 3.5.10 anyway?
[12:17] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Do you mean 3.10.5?
 what is your problem
[12:18] <mintuser> but thank you for finally trying to be helpful
[12:18] <oupateddie> cgtdk becuase I was told that there is a problem with 3.5.8
[12:18] <logical_> hello everyone, I am a new user of Ubuntu and i have the 13.04 v.  Yesterday I was using Ubuntu and software updater appeared, ofc. I pressed update. None of the driver were uploaded. I cant use internet, sound even the monitor resolution is not correct. How to fix this, at the moment I am using win 7 (dual boot)
[12:18] <jrib> mintuser: it could be that the solutions mentioned don't work because of differences between ubuntu and mint
[12:18] <mintuser> well I wish I had a system I could put ubuntu on to try it, but alas I don't.
[12:19] <boxmein> Hiya. I've a networking issue. Basically the network menu has no options relating to wireless. The hardware wifi toggle button does nothing, and by the command line tools listed in the device driver tutorial I have the driver running.
[12:19] <boxmein> http://bpaste.net/show/PvhkKuuSAt1qpWVMrkiC/
[12:19] <kostas5> How can I access the grub menu if it's hidden and does not show even after pressing the shift key?
[12:19] <boxmein> Followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers
[12:19] <mintuser> I do realize that and of course would filter anything said here through that understanding
[12:19] <joseph^> im trying to  pipe vlc audio to a virtual input device with asla or pulseaudio, does anyone have tips who's done it before?
[12:19] <oupateddie> cgtdk one of the forums stated exactly what my machine is doing and said to install 3.5.10 to solve the problem but that did not fix it
[12:19] <mintuser> but at least it would be something I could bring to the linuxmint-help group as a starting point
[12:20] <joseph^> theres a bunch of peoploe in here
[12:20] <mintuser> If I could afford to have the system go down at some point I would try ubuntu to replicate it, but alas, I can't
[12:20] <cgtdk> oupateddie: There is no 3.5.10. Do you mean 3.10.5?
[12:20] <oupateddie> cgtdk sorry yes 3.10.5
[12:21] <jrib> mintuser: ok, let's move on.  I don't think there's anything else to be said about this
[12:21] <oupateddie> cgtdk my typo
[12:21] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Did you actually experience any problems on 3.8?
[12:21] <oupateddie> cgtdk yes the same problem
[12:21] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Also, have you tried the latest version of the 3.10 branch? (3.10.7)
[12:22] <logical_> boxmein you need to allow non propiratery drivers to be able to use
[12:22] <cgtdk> oupateddie: It would probably be helpful to post a link to the forum thread.
[12:22] <logical_> i had the same problem
[12:22] <oupateddie> cgtdk the machine just suddenly freezes up, sometimes reboots after 30 sec. but sometimes frozen solid
[12:22] <logical_> i just cant remmember the line for terminal
[12:22] <oupateddie> cgtdk no haven't done that
[12:23] <cgtdk> oupateddie: You should probably do that. But please post the link to the thread about the problem.
[12:23] <boxmein> logical_: can you pretty please look for the line? :D
[12:24] <oupateddie> cgtdk can I upgrade to 3.10.7 easily from the command line?
[12:24] <logical_> ok give me some time
[12:24] <boxmein> Time I have
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> oupateddie  don't forget to backup first, in case something goes wrong
[12:24] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Yes. How did you upgrade to 3.10.5?
[12:24] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Actually, please post the output of "uname -r"
[12:24] <oupateddie> Its a new installation there is nothing on the machine to worry about
[12:25] <oupateddie> cgtdk I'm not on that machine now, will try to get that done and post it
[12:25] <cgtdk> all right.
[12:26] <kostas5> How can I access the grub menu if it's hidden and does not show even after pressing the shift key?
[12:26] <xvzf> hi there, I want to compile some software from sources but it does not find kernel headers in the include path --  could this be a Ubuntu bug or better a bug in the makefile?
[12:26] <xvzf> I have kernel-headers installed
[12:26] <cgtdk> oupateddie: Anyway, to upgrade to 3.10.7 on Ubuntu, download the relevant .deb's from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.10.7-saucy/ (i.e., the _all.deb and the two relevant to your system, either amd64 or i386) and install them via dpkg
[12:26] <logical_> boxmein try this in the terminal: Ssudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[12:27] <oupateddie> cgtdk oops I get 3.10.3-031003-generic shown now
[12:27] <cgtdk> all right, follow the instructions I provided to upgrade to 3.10.7
[12:27] <oupateddie> cgtdk I have made an error, it was 3.10.3 whcih I must have installed.
[12:28] <cgtdk> oupateddie: and again, please post the link to the forum in which you read about the problem
[12:28] <boxmein> logical_: anything else?
[12:28] <logical_> just that should wokr
[12:28] <oupateddie> cgtdk I must just go and get the link and will do so
[12:28] <boxmein> cheers
[12:28]  * boxmein goes off ethernet
[12:29] <logical_> hello everyone, I am a new user of Ubuntu and i have the 13.04 v.  Yesterday I was using Ubuntu and software updater appeared, ofc. I pressed update. None of the driver were uploaded. I cant use internet, sound even the monitor resolution is not correct. How to fix this, at the moment I am using win 7 (dual boot)
[12:30] <pc_magas> logical_ gives us the specs of your computer first
[12:30] <eos> hi everybody .... I am trying to connect to wireless from the command line on ubuntu .... I have wpa up and running in the background but still it does not connect ..... :(
[12:31] <pc_magas> I mean graphics card and sound card
[12:31] <eos> if I use network manager (GUI) it does, so everything is working
[12:31] <boxmein> Sadly, not
[12:31] <logical_> before I type anything i want to say that all worked before software update, after restart no drivers were loaded, network, graphic card , sound card etc..
[12:32] <TJ-> How is one supposed to force Unity to discover and list for running a newly installed GUI application that does has a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/  ? (13.04 Ubuntu)
[12:33] <kostas5_> sorry I got d/c and might have not seen your reply. How can I access the grub menu when its hidden and pressing the shift key doesn't work?
[12:33] <vadi> Which wifi nic manufacturer is most ubuntu-friendly?
[12:35] <TJ-> kostas5: It is likely you're not tapping the Shift key at precisely the right moment. I find that, especially in VMs, I have to rapidly tap it from the moment the BIOS screen refreshes else I can easily miss it. Even then, it can take a few attempts!
[12:35] <vlt> Hello. I plugged in a USB drive (/dev/sdc in my case) and it got auto-mounted. I wanted to unmount it and clicked on the “eject” icons in nautilus. Now there’s no media found anymore on sdc. How to re-introduce it to the kernel?
[12:36] <TJ-> vadi: Any that has drivers as part of the mainline Linux kernel. Intel are good for that, but there are others too.
[12:36] <vadi> Intel, right. Thanks.
[12:36] <TJ-> vlt: Easiest is to dis/re-connect it
[12:37] <vlt> TJ-: No physical access anymore :-(
[12:37] <TJ-> vlt: Alternatively you can manually mount the device if you know its device name (in /dev/)
[12:37] <vlt> TJ-: Any udev magic?
[12:37] <vlt> I know that it’s /dev/sdc but `blockdev --getsize /dev/sdc` gives me the "no media" error.
[12:37] <TJ-> vlt: OK, figure out its /dev/ name then do "sudo mount /dev/XXXXX /path/to/mount/point" - ensuring that /path/to/mount/point is a directory that exists
[12:38] <TJ-> vlt: The device is likely to contain a partition table; it'd be /dev/sdc1 or /dev/sdc2 ... try "ls -l /dev/sdc*"
[12:38] <vlt> TJ-: I don’t even get a block size (and no partitions anymore) after clicking the eject icon. What exactly happened?
[12:38] <vlt> TJ-: The kernel doesn’t know about any partitions on sdc
[12:39] <TJ-> vlt: If the hardware has been ejected you *might* be able to get it by doing "sudo udevadm trigger"
[12:39] <vlt> TJ-: Thanks, I’ll try that.
[12:40] <vlt> TJ-: No :-(   Nothing in dmesg, no new partitions or devices found.
[12:41] <TJ-> vlt: Another way is, if you know which kernel driver handles it *and* that driver is a module (not built in) *and* no other devices or processes have that kernel driver locked in memory, you might do it with "sudo modprobe -r <driver.ko> && sudo modprobe <driver.ko>" which removes and reloads the driver
[12:41] <kostas5_> sorry I got d/c might have missed your response, TJ-: I tried both tapping it down quickly and holding it down. Tried quite a few times, but doesn't work
[12:41] <TJ-> vlt: Also, check in the /sys/block/* hierarchy - there may be a node you can write to which will cause the kernel to rediscover it
[12:42] <TJ-> kostas5: Which version of Ubuntu is it? All recent versions use the Shift key... is it possible it has been disabled manually in the GRUB configuration?
[12:43] <santhosh> hai
[12:43] <kostas5_> TJ-: It's 12.4. Unlikely to have been disabled manually, this is a fresh install, was never able to boot it at all
[12:44] <TJ-> kostas5_: Weird; as far as I recall 12.04 uses GRUB2 so it will be shift key. Are you using a USB keyboard or the PC's inbuilt/PS2 port?
[12:44] <TJ-> kostas5_: If it's USB you likely have the PC's BIOS set to disable "Legacy USB" - that is needed for BIOS to read a USB device which is what GRUB needs
[12:44] <boxmein> So, further into investigation, reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052124 and... I don't have any wl to modprobe
[12:45] <TJ-> vlt: Trying to reproduce your issue here
[12:46] <vlt> TJ-: Thank you.
[12:46] <vlt> TJ-: I know I could get into my car, drive there, and just pull and re-plug it. But …
[12:47] <kostas5> my apologies again (got a shite connection on top of the other problems). TJ-: It's 12.4. Unlikely to have been disabled manually, this is a fresh install, was never able to boot it at all
[12:47] <boxmein> johannes@luna:~/Downloads$ sudo modprobe wl
[12:47] <boxmein> FATAL: Module wl not found.
[12:47] <vlt> TJ-: I KNOW there must be a linux way to re-introduce it
[12:50] <Cyrax> The Desktop rotation for ubuntu. Is NVidia GeForce GT 620 that is for my windows 8 enough for the desktop rotation? remember I got 2 os.. windows 8 64 bit nad ubuntu wich is on a DVD adn running from it
[12:50] <Cyrax> *and
[12:51] <TJ-> vlt: There is, but I'm trying to figure it out. As it is USB we have to power-cycle the device or hub.
[12:51] <eos> hi everybody .... I am trying to connect to wireless from the command line on ubuntu .... I have wpa up and running in the background but still it does not connect ..... :(
[12:51] <eos> if I use network manager (GUI) it does, so everything is working
[12:54] <OnkelTem> hi
[12:54] <eos> I meant wpa_supplicant
[12:55] <OnkelTem> what argument should i pass to the kernel to start installation in text mode?
[12:55] <OnkelTem> im installing lubuntu
[12:55] <kostas5> How can I access the grub menu on 12.04? I tried holding down, tapping quickly etc the shift key but doesn't work. This is a fresh install, unlikely to have been disabled manually
[12:58] <TJ-> kostas5_: Weird; as far as I recall 12.04 uses GRUB2 so it will be shift key. Are you using a USB keyboard or the PC's inbuilt/PS2 port?
[12:58] <TJ-> kostas5_: If it's USB you likely have the PC's BIOS set to disable "Legacy USB" - that is needed for BIOS to read a USB device which is what GRUB needs
[13:00] <kostas5> TJ-: It's a laptop so its the build in keybord
[13:00] <kostas5> *keyboard
[13:04] <TJ-> kostas5: OK, does the keyboard have multiple shift keys? have you tried all of them? Also, have you tried the Ctrl key(s) ?
[13:07] <kostas5_> sorry got d/c might have missed your response TJ-: none of these, it's a laptop
[13:07] <TJ-> kostas5: OK, does the keyboard have multiple shift keys? have you tried all of them? Also, have you tried the Ctrl key(s) ?
[13:08] <joseph^> im trying to  pipe vlc audio to a virtual input device with asla or pulseaudio, does anyone have tips who's done it before?
[13:08] <kostas5_> TJ-: thanks, tried the ctlr, doesn't work, I think I tried the other shift too, but let me try again to be sure
[13:10] <kostas5_> TJ-: none of the shift keys works
[13:11] <TJ-> kostas5_: This page/section describes how it works https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Hidden
[13:11] <anildigital> Where are the files downloaded when we do sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[13:12] <anildigital> https://gist.github.com/anildigital/6fa1c67eddda1f5c2db9
[13:12] <kostas5_> TJ-: thanks, none of these works: I've tried tapping the shift keys, holding them pressed down, tried the ctrl keys, and the escape. No access to grub menu
[13:13] <tadolk> anyone with an korean 1440p ips monitor here?
[13:13] <TJ-> kostas5_: Are you sure it is using GRUB as the boot-loader?
[13:13] <TJ-> kostas5_: Are you sure the keyboard works at all!?
[13:14] <kostas5_> TJ-: No idea, how can I check this?
[13:14] <jonasrogert_> kostas5_, have you look in /etc/grub/default? check what it says and see if you can change it to show
[13:14] <gordonjcp> !anyone | tadolk
[13:14] <kostas5_> TJ-: The keyboard works fine, because I can enter the bios menu and change the settings using the keyboard
[13:15] <kostas5_> jonasrogert: I cannot do that because the laptop won't boot at all... I want to enter the grub menu because I want to fix the NVidia problem in the first place
[13:16] <tadolk> sure, my monitor is not supported by linux or it doesn't have an EDID. So it's not working and I need help to write my own EDID or copy someone elses
[13:17] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I monitor network usage of applications?
[13:17] <TJ-> kostas5_: Can you boot into a USB live install or something, and use that to fix the laptop (including sorting out the GRUB menu config) ?
[13:17] <jonasrogert_> kostas5_, can you get into a tty while it tries too boot? using ctrl+alt+f1?
[13:18] <oupateddie> cgtdk I'm back, have installed kernel 3.10.7 and no change. Machine still freezes up and it has no pattern to it. Can it be the xorg causing this
[13:19] <kostas5_> jonasrobert_: ctrl alt f1 doesn't work... I still get the black screen
[13:19] <Antar> Hi
[13:20] <kostas5_> TJ-: I have a live usb stick, It won't boot from it strangely enough (the stick is fine, worked to install 12.04, and on another machine too, have checked the bios settings to boot from the stick, nothing)
[13:20] <Cyrax> TJ-: What video card do I need for ubuntu for me to rotate the ubuntu desktop adn form it as a cube? I got Nvidia GeForce GT 620 on my windows 8.. I got 2 os. windows 8 as my main one nad ubuntu as second os.. but my ubuntu runs from a DVD
[13:20] <Antar> how much lines exactly that head and tail output ?
[13:20] <TJ-> kostas5_: That is beginning to sound like a problem with the laptop itself! Too many things it isn't doing. When did you last spill coffee into the keyboard? :d
[13:21] <jonasrogert_> Antar, you can set the amount of lines too output with -n 200
[13:21] <TJ-> Cyrax: I have no idea, you'd need to search forums and such for others that have done it
[13:21] <kostas5_> TJ-: the laptop was absolutely fine until I installed 12.04
[13:21] <kostas5_> TJ-: didn't manage to boot since I installed 12.04
[13:21] <TJ-> kostas5_: Well something is weird. Have you done the last-gap thing and removed the battery for a minute or so?
[13:21] <Antar> jonasrogert_ hmm good
[13:22] <TJ-> kostas5_: Also, a BIOS reset to defaults is something I'd try after a battery removal
[13:22] <kostas5_> TJ-: been there done that, running on power cord without battery for days
[13:22] <Antar> jonasrogert_ is it an aliases ?
[13:22] <kostas5_> TJ-: have also reset the bios settings to default, nothing
[13:22] <jonasrogert_> Antar, no it is a parameter so you would do tail -n200 logfile
[13:22] <jonasrogert_> look in man tail
[13:23] <Antar> mm ok
[13:23] <TJ-> kostas5_: Well I'd concentrate on getting a bootable USB flash drive and ensuring that works with another PC, then come back to this one. If that fails, you've at least proved its something about the laptop itself
[13:23] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I monitor network usage of applications?
[13:23] <kostas5_> TJ-: the bootable usb stick works well, I successfully used it to install 12.04 on another machine yesterday
[13:24] <Antar> jonasrogert_ are you Certified ?
[13:24] <TJ-> kostas5_: So there is something wrong with that laptop then. Have you confirmed that all the available BIOS options for enabling USB like "Legacy" and so forth, are enabled?
[13:25] <jonasrogert_> Antar, certified in what? ubuntu no
[13:25] <Antar> jonasrogert_ linux
[13:25] <kostas5_> TJ-: I have but let me try once more
[13:25] <TJ-> kostas5_: What make/model of laptop is it?
[13:25] <kostas5_> TJ-: Vaio VGN-NR31Z/S
[13:25] <jonasrogert_> Antar, no sorry
[13:26] <Antar> jonasrogert_ how did you know all of that ?
[13:26] <Antar> :)
[13:26] <TJ-> kostas5_: OK
[13:26] <jonasrogert_> Antar, used it for a long time, looking at logs is pretty much my job :)
[13:26] <Antar> jonasrogert_ mmm great
[13:26] <kostas5_> TJ-: External drive boot: enabled, boot priority order: 1. USB flash.... nothing about legacy in the options
[13:27] <Antar> jonasrogert_ but getting certified is better
[13:27] <kostas5_> TJ-: anything else I should look for?
[13:27] <jonasrogert_> Antar, the best resource if you want to now what a command can do is executing 'man command'
[13:27] <Antar> Yeah
[13:27] <Antar> and info
[13:27] <Antar> and --help
[13:27] <TJ-> kostas5_: Yeah I know; The Vaio's are quite locked down and basic. I had to hack the BIOS of the VGN-FE41Z I have to enable virtualisation on the CPU
[13:27] <jonasrogert_> Antar, i guess, have never thought of it
[13:27] <jonasrogert_> Antar, should look into it :), thanks for the recommendation!
[13:28] <kostas5_> TJ-: save and exit.... bios logo and then the infamous black screen with blinking underscore
[13:28] <Antar> jonasrogert_ Welcome
[13:28] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I monitor network usage of applications?
[13:28] <Antar> jonasrogert_ you need to be RHCE or Linux +
[13:29] <jonasrogert_> Antar, kool i will look into it!
[13:29] <Antar> jonasrogert_ Yeah
[13:29] <jonasrogert_> mojtaba, i would look into netstat
[13:30] <xkernel> how to create Ubuntu 13.04 image with rootstock?
[13:30] <kostas5_> anything else before I throw the laptop away?
[13:31] <mojtaba> jonasrogert_: e.g. If you want to know how many bytes thunderbird has send and recieved, what would be the command with netstat?
[13:33] <jonasrogert_> mojtaba, im not sure acctually, try looking into man netstat
[13:34] <mojtaba> jonasrogert_: It just shows ports!
[13:34] <jonasrogert_> mojtaba, it has quite alot of options there is a option for processes i think
[13:36] <TJ-> kostas5_: Hang on, woooas!
[13:36] <TJ-> kostas5_: back up there... you just said you only see a blinking cursor?
[13:36] <chinno988> Anyone had trouble with skype on 13.04 seems more unstable to me.
[13:36] <Ampelbein> !info bandwidthd | mojtaba
[13:37] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: netstat is kinda the wrong tool for per-application statistics.
[13:37] <chinno988> Also anyone know of a 64bit version of skype?
[13:37] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: Thanks
[13:37] <jonasrogert_> Ampelbein, mojtaba, sorry for that :)
[13:40] <kostas5_> TJ-: that's right, black screen with blinking cursor
[13:40] <kostas5_> TJ-: I wasn't able to boot at all since installed 12.04
[13:41] <TJ-> kostas5_: So where's GRUB in all this? Unless you can tell me you're seeing GRUB's "Loading Linux..." line, then you have NO boot-loader installed. That black flashing cursor means that GRUB didn't install correctly. It got the MBR code but not the 2nd stage
[13:41] <TJ-> kostas5_: So in summary, you'll not be able to use Shift key since GRUB isn't running!
[13:41] <TJ-> kostas5_: So ... failed install... start all over again!
[13:41] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: I installed bandwidthd now, but how can I use it?
[13:41] <kostas5_> TJ-: according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535 I need to enter the grub menu to fix the not booting problem (apparently a conflict with the old drivers of the nvidia card)
[13:42] <TJ-> kostas5_: I don't care about any article. That black flashing cursor tells me you have a broken install that can't even get to GRUB's second state
[13:42] <TJ-> s/state/stage/
[13:42] <TJ-> kostas5_: re-install
[13:42] <kostas5_> TJ-: I agree that the install wasn't right... but can't reinstall it now... it won't run the live USB stick
[13:43] <TJ-> kostas5_: Fix the USB stick
[13:43] <xkernel> I'm running rootstock and getting this, what does it mean?  "Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-armel/Packages"
[13:43] <pilone> I just killed cairo dock in process and now my sound isn't working. Any ideas?
[13:43] <kostas5_> TJ-: the USB stick is fine... I used it yesterday to install 12.04 on another laptop
[13:43] <ahalverson> kostas5_: to install grub, boot from rescue mode and do "grub-install /dev/sdX", X being the letter for your hard drive
[13:43] <TJ-> kostas5_: But the laptop doesn't like ti
[13:44] <kostas5_> TJ-: can you sell me a live CD?
[13:44] <TJ-> ahalverson: Where's he going to get Rescue mode from? The PC has no working GRUB!
[13:44] <ahalverson> tj:  on the cd
[13:44] <TJ-> kostas5_: what capacity is the USB device?
[13:44] <kostas5_> ahalverson: I cannot boot from rescue mode
[13:44] <TJ-> ahalverson: He can't boot from the USB live CD though, that's his double-problem!
[13:44] <kostas5_> TJ-: 8 giga
[13:44] <pilone> I just killed cairo dock in process and now my sound isn't working. Any ideas?
[13:45] <ahalverson> kostas_5: do you know how to make a liveCD?
[13:45] <TJ-> kostas5_: OK, so the USB capacity shouldn't be overwhelming the BIOS. Have you ensured you've set the boot order in BIOS to read the USB device before the hard disk. I suspect what is happening is the hard disk is taking priority
[13:46] <kostas5_> TJ-: yes, its 1 in the priority and have extrenal boot devices enabled
[13:46] <TJ-> kostas5_: Are you able, in BIOS, to change the order so the hard disk is last, or even totally disabled as a boot device?
[13:46] <kostas5_> ahalverson: I have a borrowed mac available, can I use it to make a live CD?
[13:47] <ahalverson> kostas5_: yes
[13:47] <TJ-> kostas5_: If it can write an ISO then yes
[13:47] <kostas5_> TJ-: I have this option indeed, I placed the HD last, didn't work. Let me try disabling it
[13:47] <TJ-> kostas5_: I've seen that happen a couple times on my VGN-FE41Z and the boot menu was to blame
[13:47] <kostas5_> TJ-: I have no idea if it can write an ISO, I am not mac proficient (and neither is my gf to whom the mac belongs to)
[13:48] <ahalverson> kostas5_: try this http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html
[13:48] <kostas5_> TJ-: let me try disabling the HD for a sec
[13:48] <pilone> I just killed cairo dock in process and now my sound isn't working. Any ideas?
[13:48] <TJ-> kostas5_: If you can't sort out the USB device booting soonish, I suggest you read up on burning a disc from OSX :)
[13:49] <kostas5_> TJ-: yes! removing the HD made it load into the live CD!
[13:49] <osubuntu> hello
[13:49] <TJ-> kostas5_: Nice one!
[13:49] <kostas5_> TJ-: would you be able to guide me from here?
[13:49] <TJ-> kostas5_: Are you able to do a fresh clean install now?
[13:50] <kostas5_> TJ-: yes try or install ubuntu
[13:50] <TJ-> kostas5_: I shall be around for a while although maybe not active unless you ping me, I'm not glued to the PC this morning
[13:50] <ahalverson> kostas5_: now boot into the live disk, do CTL-ALT-F1, and type grub-install /dev/sda
[13:51] <osubuntu> how can I make xmodmap settings permanent??
[13:51] <TJ-> ahalverson: That may not work, the hard disk might be sdb
[13:51] <osubuntu> I have know idead how to make xmodmap settings permanent.
[13:51] <ahalverson> TJ, kostas5_: or the hard drive you have ubutu on
[13:51] <TJ-> kostas5_:  You can try recovering GRUB but if that part failed I'd be inclined to do a clean fresh install to be sure that no other hidden parts are broken
[13:52] <ahalverson> TJ: good idea
[13:52] <osubuntu> why im asking is because I have to set up Right Alt -> Hangul every time when login
[13:52] <osubuntu> or is there any way to execute a script when logging on X org server?
[13:52] <hadifarnoud> I want to use my ubuntu server as proxy server via SSH Tunnel. how can I do that? My laptop is Mac. I'm tired of pptp vpn and squid. they blocked everything in Iran
[13:53] <ahalverson> !tor | hadifarnoud
[13:53] <TJ-> ahalverson: Been burnt like that myself a few times; it's not worth it if you've not got any data on there yet
[13:53] <Slart> osubuntu: this might be useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8247706/start-script-when-gnome-starts-up
[13:53] <hadifarnoud> ahalverson: tor is so slow. and also blocked
[13:53] <kostas5> sorry got d/c
[13:53] <kostas5> TJ-: shouldn't I fix the nvidia issue first? I read that I should do this while seeing the "keyboard logo" in the beginning
[13:53] <ahalverson> thadifarnoud: ok, i got nothin
[13:53] <TJ-> kostas5_:  You can try recovering GRUB but if that part failed I'd be inclined to do a clean fresh install to be sure that no other hidden parts are broken
[13:54] <hadifarnoud> ahalverson: how can I setup SSH tunnel? I have a server I can use
[13:54] <TJ-> kostas5: : Been burnt like that myself a few times; it's not worth it if you've not got any data on there yet
[13:54] <kostas5> TJ-: so I just click "install ubuntu"?
[13:54] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: i dont know, may i suggest the ubuntu wiki
[13:54] <ahalverson> im looking it up right now
[13:55] <TJ-> kostas5: No, I'd boot to the live CD environment and then use the Install link from the desktop. That way, after the install completes, we can use the desktop live environment to verify that the install did go correctly, before you reboot it
[13:56] <TJ-> kostas5: And that also means if it goes wrong we can determine why and how to sort it out, before the reboot
[13:56] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45075/how-do-i-route-my-internet-through-a-ssh-tunnel
[13:56] <streulma> hello, I'm on a high resolution, how can I change the Ubuntu Icon size and title bar size in Ubuntu?
[13:56] <hadifarnoud> thanks ahalverson
[13:56] <kostas5> TJ-: I got you now, thanks, will do that
[13:56] <ahalverson> hadif: wait, its for vpn
[13:57] <ahalverson> hadif: sorry :(
[13:57] <TJ-> kostas5: Good luck... glad you mentioned that flashing cursor... I'd assumed you were having the machine start to boot but just couldn't intercept GRUB before it did so.
[13:57] <TJ-> kostas5: Yet another lesson on needing to be so precise in describing issues and asking questions about them :)
[13:57] <streulma> I thought it was in dconf-editor...
[13:57] <kostas5> TJ-: sorry I should have mentioned in the first place, but when I did that in the past, people pointed out to the grub menu as a solution which I couldn't access and it was a dead end
[13:58] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud
[13:58] <hadifarnoud> :(
[13:58] <hadifarnoud> aah, Iran blocked all vpn
[13:58] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: this is what you want http://askubuntu.com/questions/112177/how-do-i-tunnel-and-browse-the-server-webpage-on-my-laptop
[13:58] <hadifarnoud> just ssh works
[13:58] <TJ-> kostas5: Yeah, don't worry, I'm not blaming just highlighting it because the smallest detail is so significant with remote support where experts don't see what you see
[13:58] <kostas5> TJ-: my full question was also posted here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168036 and I copy pasted it here, apparently before you came
[13:59] <TJ-> kostas5: Yes, I saw you were suffering and thought I'd jump in late :D
[13:59] <kostas5> TJ-: but I'm glad you suggested something others didn't
[13:59] <TJ-> kostas5: I had been about to suggest to pull the RAM modules in case there were some weird sticky bits :D
[14:00] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: if you want to use basic ssh, the command is ssh -D 80 *remote host*
[14:00] <hadifarnoud> ahalverson: no I want to use it as proxy.
[14:01] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: and then tell your browser to use a socks proxy at 127.0.0.1 port 80
[14:01] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: that is a VERY basic proxy
[14:02] <hadifarnoud> oh. wait! so ssh -D 80 *my server ip* should be entered when I did ssh into it?
[14:02] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: hope that works, i gtg
[14:02] <ahalverson> hadif: yes
[14:02] <ahalverson> hadifarnoud: but dont forget the browser part
[14:02] <hadifarnoud> cool
[14:02] <hadifarnoud> I wont
[14:03] <Mace268> hadifarnoud, try using autossh for a permanent system-wide tunnel if you're so inclined
[14:03] <hadifarnoud> Mace268: thanks. will look into it
[14:05] <mint_> wilfrido_222@hotmail.com
[14:05] <mint_> dilia222palacio2
[14:06] <cryptospy> is it safe to install nvdia 319.32 driver on ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[14:07] <cryptospy> gfx card : nvdia 630gt
[14:07] <Johnny_Linux> cryptospy  id prolly go with nvidia-current
 you mean nvdia 304.x?
[14:08] <Johnny_Linux> what ever version is there
[14:08] <Mace268> there is usually one that says tested
[14:09] <cryptospy> yes there are two...one back ported
[14:09] <Mace268> for me on 13.04 310 is the tested/recommended driver
[14:09] <ramon_> i want to connect my android phone in ubuntu but once i start going throw file i get disconnected...any suggestion?
[14:09] <cfhowlett> ramon_, airdroid
[14:09] <cryptospy> how to know what is the back poted version?
[14:09] <cryptospy> *ported
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:10] <Siedas> Hello
[14:10] <Siedas> Anyone can help me in here?
[14:10] <Mace268> cryptospy, i don't know tbh
[14:10] <ramon_> cfhowlett, airdroid is an application?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !help|Siedas,
 okey thnx :)
[14:10] <cfhowlett> ramon_, it's an android app in google play.  allows computer/phone connection via wifi.
[14:11] <ramon_> cfhowlett,  how about cable connection?
[14:11] <Mace268> airdroid is awesome, at least it was a while back, but yes it's wifi
[14:13] <Siedas> The problem is this. After booting, I get a black screen. This started happening after I got some upgrades.
[14:13] <ramon_> so there is no longer possible a universal cable connection between ubuntu and android?
[14:13] <Siedas> I have been told this is due to lightdm not working correctly.
[14:13] <Siedas> Not sure if this is completely true since I did had a similar issue with another laptop with windows 7.
[14:14] <hansp> How do I locate the Qbittorrent I just innstalled from Software center?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> ramon_, depends on which ubuntu you're running.  13.04 works out of the box.  12.04 required some FTP type stuff.
 did you intall propietory gfx driver lately?
[14:14] <hansp> I find it in my navmenu, but i dont when im looking to the filesystem
[14:15] <khlil> hello
[14:15] <Siedas> I can't get into my login to find out.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> khlil, greetings
[14:15] <ramon_> cfhowlett,  i am on ubuntu 13.04 and i get disconnected from the phone once i start going throw files
[14:16] <cryptospy> try to insert in safe mode safe mode
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ramon_, try a different windows manager?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> ramon_, for instance, thunar doesn't see my droid but nautilus does.  dont' know why
[14:17] <khlil> hello
[14:17] <Siedas> There is no way to get a safemode on there. The entire screen is black, I can't see anything.
[14:18] <khlil> lol
[14:18] <ramon_> cfhowlett,  i have eclipse and android SDKs installed and still
[14:18] <Siedas> I am running ubuntu 12.04
[14:18] <cfhowlett> ramon_, as I said, try a different file explorer
[14:19] <ramon_> cfhowlett,  thanks i am going to give it a try
[14:19] <philinux> hansp: use locate qbittorrent
[14:20] <Siedas> great. Another person that doesn't know what to do.
[14:21] <philinux> hansp: you may need to run sudo updatedb first
[14:22] <Siedas> The link will explain better: http://www.tech-forums.net/forums/f43/ubunt-12-04-black-screen-267689/
[14:23] <ikonia> Siedas: you can actually force a sane display environment by forcing xorg.conf to use the "vesa" driver, it maybe worth considering that,
[14:23] <ikonia> Siedas: that way you can at least get a desktop to move the problem forward.
[14:24] <Sajaki> hi, when do "sudo apt-get install php5" i get 5.3.10 --> how to get 5. 4 ?
[14:24] <ikonia> Sajaki: it's not in the ubuntu repo for your version
[14:24] <ikonia> Sajaki: you'd need to use a PPA but be aware of the possible risks that brings
[14:24] <ikonia> Sajaki: do you really need 5.4 /
[14:25] <Sajaki> for testing ^
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !ppa|Sajaki,
[14:25] <phogg> ikonia: everyone really needs 5.4
[14:25] <ikonia> phogg: I'm sorry what ?
[14:26] <phogg> ikonia: php 5.4 is a major upgrade to 5.3. It should have been 6.0, but since 6.0 promised unicode support that was not completed it was not so called.
[14:26] <ikonia> phogg: that doesn't mean it's requried
[14:26] <phogg> ikonia: that means any sane person would not use 5.3 any more than 4.x. It's completely unacceptable.
[14:27] <ikonia> phogg: it's not unacceptable, and you're welcome to use 5.4 if you feel that strongly about it, however as 5.4 is not in the main repos thats a limiting factor for that version without using a PPA
[14:28] <Sajaki> well like i said, its for testing. i installed an ubuntu 12.04 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-23-generic-pae i686) vm with varnish
[14:28] <phogg> ikonia: You report facts regarding the availability of 5.4 accurately.
[14:28] <ikonia> phogg: really ?
[14:28] <ikonia> phogg: is 5.4 in the 12.04 main repo ?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Siedas, do you have a grub menu at bootup . if not hold the left shift key down to have grub menu appear then choose recovery mode.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Siedas, aka recovery kernel
[14:32] <jimtahu> Hello, I am unable to connect to any host with ssh, the error message is "Host key verification failed." I deleted my known_hosts file, and I can connect to other computers with putty.
[14:32] <ProtekNickz> Any one here know how to change the select colour in Ubuntu 12.04, not the actual Select but the one for the actual window forms, when u resize as i wish to change the orange outter and orange tint on them, Cheerz in Advance :)
[14:32] <philinux> hansp: any joy
[14:38] <guis> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS
[14:38] <y4h0> hi
[14:38] <jimtahu> hello
[14:38] <sillyme> if i have a .txt file, cant i just rename it to .lst  or do i have to convert it some how
[14:38] <guis> can i run ubuntu on a firefox phone?
[14:39] <y4h0> i have ubuntu 10.10 maverick i've added ppa:libreoffice/ppa to repositories , when i execute apt-get install libreoffice it says package not found
[14:39] <jimtahu> sillyme: that depends entirely on what you want to do with the file
[14:39] <y4h0> apt-cache search libreoffice doesn't find any package either
[14:39] <sillyme> loading it to aircrack
[14:39] <y4h0> is it normal
[14:39] <streulma> I will use Ubuntu and I should use Ubuntu !
[14:40] <streulma> but the high res is so anoying
[14:40] <sillyme> wat do u mean
[14:40] <cfhowlett> guis, ffox is an OS.  ubuntu is an OS.  choose a lane.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !eol | y4h0
[14:40] <sillyme> its just a text file 26.8 gig text file
[14:40] <jimtahu> sillyme: sorry, I can't help there, give it a try and see what happens
[14:41] <streulma> I mean that I all the day trying Ubuntu to work on my Macbook Pro Retina, I'm a Gnome user and not KDE, the icons and text are a little bit blurry on my screen.
[14:42] <jimtahu> sillyme: just in case you don't know, renaming a file does nothing to the content
[14:42] <cfhowlett> !who
[14:42] <ElFizbanio> and lunix is a kernul ur suna
[14:43] <streulma> :(
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !mac|streulma,
[14:47] <jimtahu> !goldfish|jimtahu
[14:47] <jaya> how to remember these vim commands pffff
[14:48] <Aravindgeek> jaya : start using it.
[14:48] <guis> wi use vim on my mobile phone
[14:49] <L-sama> anybody knows a good virtual machine open source for ubuntu?
[14:49] <compdoc> you mean like kvm?
[14:50] <philinux> L-sama: virtualbox
[14:50] <threex5> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 x64 and suddenly I'm getting a lot of program freezes and crashes. Could someone help me figure out where to start in troubleshooting this problem?
[14:50] <Siedas> Blu	okay.
[14:51] <L-sama> an open source vm?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> threex5, recent update?  perhaps a kernel hiccup.  try rebooting into an earlier kernel version
[14:52] <threex5> cfhowlett, thanks. I will try to do that from grub. I have to go offline now.
[14:53] <Siedas> Bluekaj what do I do after recovery menu?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Siedas, choose  repair broken packages
[14:57] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question
[14:57] <Psil0Cybin> when i type in the
[14:57] <Psil0Cybin> netstat -nputw
[14:57] <Psil0Cybin> command i get this output
[14:57] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/TVYZShLF
[14:57] <Psil0Cybin> is this normal?
[14:57] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57] <Siedas> bluekaj okay.
[15:00] <Siedas> Maybe my linux has a virus
[15:01] <cfhowlett> Siedas, extremely doubtful
[15:02] <Learning> Well this is weird, if I plug in the ps3 controller via usb, then it works in Steam. But not in any games.
[15:02] <Learning> How would I fix that?
[15:02] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know if you use the netstat -nputw command, if its normal to have alot of TIME_WAIT with foreign ips even tho i closed my browser (http://pastebin.com/TVYZShLF)
[15:02] <cfhowlett> Siedas, the most prevalent virus on linux systems resides between the keyboard and the display.
[15:02] <Psil0Cybin> I am so confused if im sending out packets, and what is going on
[15:02] <Siedas> THen what could make it boot into a black screen other then a virus?
[15:02] <Lehthanis> morning all...any sdl programmers in here?
[15:03] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: see http://superuser.com/questions/173535/what-are-close-wait-and-time-wait-states
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Siedas, for one ...
[15:04] <Siedas> How do I install it in terminal ?
[15:04] <Psil0Cybin> thank you TJ- your the MAN!
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Siedas,  open a terminal ,run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !virus | Siedas
[15:10] <Siedas> bluekaj not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:10] <Siedas> unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !tab | Siedas
[15:11] <Siedas> ththe package list or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[15:12] <Siedas> BlueKaj doesn't work for me.
[15:13] <Siedas> bl	
[15:13] <Siedas> is what I get after tabing
[15:14] <tb01110100> Can I ask ubuntu touch q's here?
[15:15] <wilee-nilee> !touch | tb01110100
[15:16] <wilee-nilee> tb01110100, They have their own channel. ;)
[15:17] <tb01110100> Thanks.
[15:22] <phillyj> hi, can someone help me figure out how to add an amd 5450 gfx card to my system?
[15:23] <phillyj> system works fine with onboard gfx but it hangs when i add the card; I'm not sure how to check for the driver
[15:24] <andrzej_> witam wszystkich
[15:27] <purezen> Hey guys..! I am a keen Linux user.. and want to move my Music, Videos etc partitions to another partition.. Can anyone tell me what's the best way to do it..? Shall I straight-away create symlinks.. or shall I use the mount --bind instructions as well.. Thanks..!
[15:29] <mojtaba> Hi, Is it safe to run nethogs with sudo priviledges?
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, Does it need to be?
[15:31] <newxubuntu> hi
[15:31] <cslcm> hi folks. Having a bit of an issue with saucy-server installer.  After I select "Engligh", and then "Install" - it brings up another language selection screen, but not before powering down the USB bus!  So my keyboard no longer functions. Anyone know a workaround? (The machine has no ps/2 ports)
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | cslcm
[15:31] <newxubuntu> how can i create a usb of ubuntu so that i can use it as my personal os, and install softwares, codecs, save files etc\
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> cslcm, Not sure why you would be installing a development server, but #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel.
[15:32] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I mean is it safe?
[15:32] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: it says it must be root
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, If it is not designed to run with sudo no.
[15:32] <cslcm> Actually I had no idea saucy was prerelease, tbh ;)
[15:32] <Siedas> so anyone want to help me? I have a ubuntu 12.04 that won't boot up in a normal login in screen. Instead, its black.
[15:33] <Jayha> How do I add Terminal and Java to the "Opens With" tab in properties for a file, so that I can set ubuntu to run.sh files and .jar files by double-clicking them?
[15:33] <cslcm> 13.04 current stable?
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, If its run that way then run it that way, if you know its use.
[15:33] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I have just installed this app to see my network activity based on applications.
[15:33] <phillyj> newxubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> cslcm, Stable is a opinion, evefryone may have different definitions.
[15:34] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I am not familiar with it. I just thought may be someone here knows this application.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | Siedas
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, In the future full disclosure is your best bet.
[15:35] <Jayha> I already tried installing nautilus-open-terminal but that didn't even add the open with terminal option to the context menu
[15:35] <cslcm> wilee: In software release cycles, "stable" generally refers to the latest officially supported release.
[15:35] <Siedas> Right.. I am only capable of going into recovery mode then going to shell prompt.
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> cslcm, Sure then whay are you asking, you will just get opinions here which mean nothing.
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> why*
[15:36] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Sorry, but I did not understand what do you mean.
[15:36] <kostas5> I just installed 12.04 via a live usb stick through the desktop. What do I need to do in order to check that the system was installed correctly and won't run into the black screen problem when I tried to boot it? (the laptop has an nvidia card that has issues with 12.04)
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, I mean if you are not familiar with an app state that, it is helpful for those that help to know this.
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> kostas5, By using it.
[15:37] <Jayha> why has it been made so difficult to run files from the GUI?
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | kostas5
[15:37] <Jayha> ubottu: nautilus-open-terminal
[15:38] <Jayha> ubottu: open with terminal
[15:38] <Jayha> ubottu: help
[15:38] <wilee-nilee> !nautilus-open-terminal
[15:38] <Jayha> ubottu: commands
[15:38] <cslcm> I wonder, is it possible to actually pay for ubuntu and in return get access to support from people who aren't naturally facetious?
[15:38] <Jayha> wilee-nilee: cheers :)
[15:39] <zykotick9> Jayha: did you restart nautilus (log out/back in) after installing n-o-t?
[15:39] <Jayha> zykotick9: yeah
[15:39] <zykotick9> Jayha: and when you right click inside nautilus, terminal isn't there?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !attitude | cslcm
[15:40] <Siedas> BlueKaj why don't you tell me how to fix them using recovery mode with shell prompt?
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> cslcm, You need to learn to understand basic questions and using the irc.
[15:40] <Jayha> zykotick9: nope - there's an "open terminal" to open terminals at a path, but no open in terminal
[15:40] <cslcm> I don't need to do anything. It's not my fault that you are volunteers, I would be happy to pay for support if such an option were availbale
[15:40] <cslcm> (sp*)
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Siedas, I did but you ignored the commands '
[15:40] <zykotick9> Jayha: that "open terminal" is n-o-t, that's what it's for/does
[15:41] <Jayha> zykotick9: that opens a terminal at the directory-path, I want to open .sh files with terminal (i.e. run them)
[15:42] <Bjond> cslcm: http://www.ubuntu.com/management
[15:42] <DJones> cslcm: You can pay for support, just go to the ubuntu.com website and click support at the bottom of the page, there is an option there to buy support
[15:42] <zykotick9> Jayha: you'd need to call a x11-terminal followed by your script for that to work.  like "xterm -e /path/script.sh" type thing, using gnome-terminal would be better!
[15:42] <Siedas> bluekaj what is it? I can't see with this chats font. That's why I wanted to pm.
[15:42] <cslcm> DJones, Bjond, thank you. That is what I asked previously.
[15:43] <phillyj> cslcm: go buy red hat enterprise if you want that kind of support
[15:43] <bestdnd> Hi. I think I have a problem with my OpenGL. How can I check it?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Siedas, drop a tty (shell) using ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 , then do , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , then reboot
[15:43] <Jayha> zykotick9: I'm more of a command-line guy, but my son isn't, so I'm trying to figure out how to run executable files by double-click
[15:44] <Jayha> zykotick9: the "opens with" tab in properties doesn't jave Java (I want to set that for .jar files) or Terminal (for .sh files)
[15:44] <cslcm> phillyj - with that sort of reasoning I may as well just go buy windows 8.  RHEL is a different distro (and FYI rhel has working usb keyboard support)
[15:44] <Guest26933> .
[15:44] <Mace268> Jayha, If it's nautilus go to File > Preferences then behavior tab
[15:45] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: sidenote, that "tty" is called a virtual-terminal (it's real "linux" actually, verify with "echo $TERM" the next time your in a VT.  a tty is ANY "terminal", X or VT... just sayin'
[15:45] <Unknown0BC> How do I get ubuntu to use an external usb dongle rather than the built in bluetooth ?
, I think you mean edit-->preferences?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> cslcm, state you problem again ,i didn't see it earlier , since you've been complaining i have no clue what your issue is.
[15:46] <Mace268> bestdnd, not in 13.04, the only menu is File in nautilus
[15:46] <bestdnd> ok
[15:47] <Mace268> or Files I meas
[15:47] <Mace268> mean*
[15:47] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, well your correcty technically, but novices don't need to know that right now :)
[15:47] <Tex_Nick> Unknown0BC: try disabling the built-in thru BIOS
[15:47] <emr> Hello, i have a weird problem, Front Right channel is not working :)
[15:48] <Unknown0BC> Tex_Nick, yeah I already had a look at the bios, there is nothing in there to turn off the wifi or bluetooth.
[15:48] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: yes, but teaching the incorrect term for things, leads to difficulties down the road ;)  it was just a comment/sidenote - no need to discuss it.
[15:48] <Jayha> Mace268: Ok, I found that and set it to run executable files rather than view, but ti now just does nothing
[15:48] <cslcm> BluesKaj:  The 13.10 installer powers down the USB bus after language selection, meaning you can't actually install it.  I was directed to #ubuntu+1 (which has nobody active), and thus I decided to try the current stable release. I asked what the current stable release was, and got a facetious non-answer
[15:49] <BluesKaj> 13.04 , cslcm , that's your answer
[15:49] <Unknown0BC> ok so what is this little bluetooth applet thingy called on the top right ( default gnome installation on 12.04 ) ?
[15:49] <Unknown0BC> Because in its configuration somewhere the bluetooth device must be specified.
[15:49] <Unknown0BC> right ?
[15:50] <Tex_Nick> yes
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> right
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> now what
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> where
[15:50] <Unknown0BC> /etc/bluetooth seems to NOT be the place
[15:50] <IdleOne> Unknown0BC: the package is called indicator-bluetooth
[15:50] <Guest26933> so i have problem with installing pygame with pip it just says :    Could not install requirement pygame because of error HTTP Error 400: Bad Request
[15:50] <Siedas> bluekaj the tty ctrl+alt+F1 did nothing. Unless I am suppose to do this out of shell prompt menu
[15:51] <cslcm> BluesKaj:  Thanks.
[15:51] <Unknown0BC> right now I know what its called, kewl.
[15:51] <Unknown0BC> ty :)
[15:51] <Mace268> Jayha, make sure the files have the executable bit set. However I think the .sh files are just executed by the shell without opening a terminal so set it to ask each time and you can select run in terminal each time.
[15:51] <Unknown0BC> one step forward.
[15:51] <Unknown0BC> :D
[15:52] <Unknown0BC> Now its probably just a case of editing a file, or perhaps even simpler with a nice user-interface.
[15:52] <Unknown0BC> haha
[15:52] <mini> hi everyone.
[15:52] <rosco_y> Hi mini
[15:52] <runserver> dicane
[15:52] <Unknown0BC> minis are cool
[15:53] <BluesKaj> cslcm, ubiquity has problems with HW recognition on some machines and stalls after language and locale choices ..it's a bug that hasn't been solved yet.  You might also encoutrer it on 13.04 .
[15:53] <runserver> noh
[15:53] <runserver> ce zici dicane
[15:53] <runserver> :-))))
[15:53] <dcn> aleas
[15:53] <dcn> :\
[15:53] <runserver> ne instalam aici? :D
[15:53] <zykotick9> HINT when in console (you can use ALT + F1-F6, or alt+LEFTorRIGHT-Arrow to move around.  use ALT+F7 to get back to Xorg)
[15:53] <dcn> stai sa vedem daca sunt ceva romanasi
[15:53] <rosco_y> if I'm in a directory with root:www-data ownership attributes, and I'm in the www-data group, shouldn't I be permitted to create subdirectories?
[15:53] <dcn> =))
[15:53] <cslcm> BluesKaj: is there any known workaround?
[15:54] <CVirus> How can I know my localhost email address ?
[15:54] <rosco_y> CVirus: likely 127.0.0.1
[15:54] <dcn> poti intra pe romania ma bateoar dumnezo pula in capu tau?
[15:54] <dcn> :))))))))
[15:54] <rosco_y> CVirus: my bad,
[15:54] <CVirus> rosco_y, isn't it something like root@FQDN ?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> cslcm, I installed 12.10 and release upgraded from there
[15:54] <mini> if i format an externat hard drive to use with ubuntu and windows what option should i choose in formatting the disk with ubuntu 13.04? compatible with all system and devices (FAT) or should I choose the compatible most systems (NTFS)?
[15:54] <cslcm> BluesKaj: Alright, that sounds like a plan. Cheers!
[15:55] <CVirus> rosco_y, where FQDN comes from /etc/mailname ?
[15:55] <Tex_Nick> Unknown0BC: i don't have bluetooth on this box ... i just tried accessing it on another box on my lan ... can't seem to access it remotly , however i've always just configured my bluetooth devices with the indicator gui
[15:55] <phillyj> can someone help me figure out how to add an AMD gfx card?
[15:55]  * rosco_y suggests you ignore his "127.0.0.1" comment.  He also adds that he's a total noob and should not be trying to help yet.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> cslcm, righto
[15:55] <rg_chi> Good morning from Chicago. Is there anyone here who can speak to accessibility testing on Ubuntu with Unity or cinnamon desktop?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> e
[15:56] <Unknown0BC> Tex_Nick, yeah but that thing does not have an option to change bluetooth device used for bluetooth comms.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> phillyj, make sure it's the default in your bios
[15:56] <rg_chi> Specifically, I want to run tests with a browser and screen reader .
[15:56] <Siedas> Wow... They all failed. All the fetching failed. and all the indexes failed to download. That command was useless. If there is a system restore for linux that would be great.
[15:56] <TJ-> rosco_y: "if I'm in a directory with root:www-data ownership attributes, and I'm in the www-data group, shouldn't I be permitted to create subdirectories?" ... only if the group has write permissions on the directory
[15:57] <IdleOne> !accessibility | rg_chi
[15:57] <rg_chi> thanks
[15:57] <mini> I want to erase the external drive completely,
[15:57] <IdleOne> rg_chi: those folks should be able to help you. Welcome
[15:57] <rg_chi> Thanks Idle. Good day all.
[15:58] <sideeffect> how is entropy S (not dS) related to temperature?
[15:58] <sideeffect> sry wrong channel
[15:59] <mini> i want to format an external drive, i want it like new and to work with ubuntu and windows, to format should it be selected as (FAT) or (NTFS)
[16:00] <IdleOne> mini: I recommend NTFS
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Siedas, are you connected to the internet on the machine with the problem?
[16:00] <phillyj> BluesKaj: i just realized that
[16:00] <mini> thanks. why?
[16:00] <Tex_Nick> Unknown0BC: do you have "Bluetooth Manager" installedc on that box ?
[16:01] <IdleOne> mini: because both Windows and Linux can read/write to NTFS
[16:01] <Unknown0BC> Tex_Nick, I don't think so ?
[16:02] <pepper_chico> mini, NTFS also support bigger files than FAT
[16:02] <Unknown0BC> Tex_Nick, no.
[16:02] <Unknown0BC> Installing it now.
[16:02] <pepper_chico> I'd go for FAT if files are not big
[16:03] <Unknown0BC> Funny one would think that FAT is the bigger one.
[16:03] <Unknown0BC> ;)
[16:03] <BluesKaj> mini, and transfer speeds are much faster with NTFS than FAT
[16:03] <pepper_chico> hehe
[16:03] <Unknown0BC> Ok wasnt that funny...
[16:03] <Unknown0BC> right
[16:03] <Tex_Nick> you might want to install it ... i don't use bt much ... think thats what i use on some of orother pc's
[16:03] <pepper_chico> I enjoyed
[16:04] <mini> thanks, understood BlueKaj
[16:04] <hex20dec1> Hey
[16:06] <Tex_Nick> Unknown0BC: does lsusb show both of your bluetooth devices
[16:06] <Unknown0BC> no because the one is not a usb one.
[16:06] <Unknown0BC> It shows the usb dongle though.
[16:06] <Tex_Nick> ok so the other one is listed in lspci ?
[16:07] <Unknown0BC> maybe ?
[16:08] <Tex_Nick> is thatby chance a samsung lappy ?
[16:08] <Siedas> Yup, I got the 2 linux virus. So how do I scan for viruses on recovery mode?
[16:08] <Siedas> Or is there a system restore?
[16:09] <Unknown0BC> Tex_Nick, Fujitsu
[16:10] <Unknown0BC> I don't see the bluetooth in lspci, but that does not mean its not there.
[16:10] <Unknown0BC> lspci | grep tooth           returns nothing
[16:11] <zykotick9> Unknown0BC: i'd recommend using -i when you grep like, "lspci | grep -i tooth" then you'll get both upper and lower case results
[16:11] <Unknown0BC> ah
[16:11] <Unknown0BC> thanks zykotick9
[16:12] <Tex_Nick> also it might be listed as BTsomething or other ?
[16:12] <linuxearth> is ubuntu easy to use?
[16:12] <mini> which is the best program to format an external drive, i just tried gparted and it is not doing the job
[16:12] <zykotick9> Unknown0BC: also, onboard BT adapters might show up under USB devices...
[16:12] <Unknown0BC> Tex_Nick, no results for lspci | grep -i bt
[16:13] <Unknown0BC> really ?
[16:13] <TitanFood> Hello all :)
[16:13] <Slart> mini: if gparted doesn't work I doubt you'll have much luck with anything else
[16:13] <linuxearth> someone told me that our earth has a evolution, is it a fact..? and why we have only 5 fingers (inc.thumb) and not 6 or 4?
[16:13] <Slart> linuxearth: just wait a while...
[16:13] <john86> how do i delete my ubuntu one folder online?
[16:14] <zykotick9> john86: there is an u1 channel btw #ubuntu-one i'd guess...
[16:14] <IdleOne> john86: #ubuntuone should be able to help
[16:14] <Unknown0BC> my onboard bluetooth is not found under: lspci | grep -i bt    nor lspci | grep -i blue    nor lsusb ( same parameters )
[16:15] <Unknown0BC> I wonder where it is hiding.
[16:15] <mini> actually it did but if the HD is a 250gb why after formatting it says 230.99gb on ntfs and it has 1.99gb on unallocated?
[16:17] <Unknown0BC> well this sort off sux.
[16:17] <Unknown0BC> anyway i'm going to see if windows likes my dongle. I just want to test its strength.
[16:17] <Unknown0BC> so reboot time
[16:17] <zykotick9> Unknown0BC: could you paste your "lsusb" to paste.ubuntu.com AND your "lscpi -vnvn" to a 2nd if possible.
[16:17] <mini> i would like it totally empty just with the neccesary files to use it to back up files
[16:17] <Unknown0BC> cheers
[16:18] <purezen> Hey guys..! I am a keen Linux user.. and want to move my Music, Videos etc partitions to another partition.. Can anyone tell me what's the best way to do it..? Shall I straight-away create symlinks.. or shall I use the mount --bind instructions as well.. Thanks..!
[16:18] <Tex_Nick> Unknown0BC: my memory is not good enough to help without having bt installed on this box ... try installing one of the "Bluetooth Applications" thru the "Ubuntu Software Center" that should give you sone connecrtivity/control over those deviceas
[16:18] <TitanFood> Good luck Unknown0BC
[16:19] <Unknown0BC> zykotick9, ok here is lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5996608/
[16:19] <john86> there is now one responding there
[16:20] <pero> is there a way to hide apps' icons from appearing in the panel if the apps themselves don't have such functionality?
[16:21] <Unknown0BC> zykotick9, and here is lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5996611/
[16:21] <mrdeb> hello. i get 'DRIVER' can not be set udev error on bootup in var/log. is udev use different ENV now? pls help
[16:21] <phillyj> purezen: either wait or no one knows; or else try posting on ubuntuforums
[16:21] <KM0201> purezen: well, symlinks, doesn't actually move them, it simply links them.. so if your goal is to physically move them from one partition to another... i don't think symlinks is what you want
[16:22] <zykotick9> Unknown0BC: ya, i only see 1 BT device right now - same as you.  well, good luck - sorry i'm no help.
[16:23] <IcemanV9> Unknown0BC: dmesg |grep -i blue (to see if bluetooth was startup during booting up)
[16:23] <Unknown0BC> oh well, gonna reboot
[16:23] <IcemanV9> *started
[16:23] <Unknown0BC> bluetooth is working just fine IcemanV9
[16:23] <Unknown0BC> I am trying to change the adaptor.
[16:23] <Unknown0BC> adapter.
[16:23] <purezen> phillyj, Thanks for replying..!
[16:23] <IcemanV9> ah. ok. gotcha.
[16:23] <Unknown0BC> I want to use an external one, not the built in one.
[16:23] <mrdeb> hello?
[16:25] <purezen> KM0201, Hey..! I just want to move them to another partition (ext4).. to use with other installations..
[16:25] <KM0201> purezen: then just either use the terminal mv command or drag/drop
[16:26] <mini> ok
[16:27] <purezen> KM0201, Sure.. but I also want to make them the default locations whenever, those folders are accessed..
[16:27] <KM0201> that's fine, just mount the new partition under each linux distro.
[16:27] <ForDummies> I'm about to try a 64-bit kernel, after about 20 years of 32-bit.  Any gotchas?  Must I clear out my dotfiles?
[16:28] <Slart> ForDummies: you're doing a reinstall?
[16:28] <purezen> KM0201, Well, I have enabled the fstab entry  for the partition.. but I also want to set the locations for the Music, Downloads etc directories as well.. In that partition only..
[16:28] <ForDummies> Slart: I'll install on a new partition.
[16:29] <yetifoot> in ubuntu, if you type a program name that doesn't exist, it can recommend a package for you, is that correct?  if so, what is the name of that package that does this please?
[16:29] <Slart> ForDummies: ah.. I don't think there should be any problems.. the only problems I've had is with proprietary software that's not open source.. electronic id, bank stuff etc
[16:29] <jrib> yetifoot: command-not-found
[16:29] <Slart> ForDummies: apart from that it has been smooth sailing for me
[16:29] <yetifoot> jrib, thanks
[16:30] <ForDummies> Slart: I have all that stuff on a Windows/Ubuntu laptop.  This is for my desktop
[16:30] <Slart> ForDummies: then you should be just fine.. go ahead!
[16:31] <ForDummies> Slart: the main thing I was worried about was dotfiles of 32-bit versions not working with the 64-bit ones.  If so, I'll need separate home directories.
[16:31] <ForDummies> Normally, my /home is mounted, not on the root partition
[16:32] <Slart> ForDummies: I've never heard of any problems with 32 and 64 bit systems sharing home directories.. but I haven't really heard many people switching between architectures like that.. I would guess you would run into more problems if you try installing a newer (or older) version of ubuntu because dot files might change
[16:33] <karab44> hello! I want to use OpenVZ but it seems Ubuntu 12.04 LTS kernel does not support it. My question is. How to make it works?
[16:33] <ForDummies> Slart: thanks.  I think I'll install 12.04 then, because that's what it has now.  Then upgrade should be normal...
[16:34] <Slart> ForDummies: myself I never share the entire home folder between systems.. I share my documents in a subfolder but I let each system have its own configurations
[16:34] <Slart> ForDummies: but that's just me
[16:35] <ForDummies> Slart: hmmm.  I can do that.  I'll probably try sharing first (with my usual good backups).
[16:36] <karab44> So how to compile a kernel with current configuration and new functionality?
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> ForDummies, Some apps are 32 bit only firefox for example, so you can use the .configs at the least.
[16:36] <karab44> I want my server to be like it is but with this small change - openvz enabled.
[16:36] <boringntp> hello, how can i stop ntp from running? i stopped the service with sudo service ntp stop, but after reboot it's running again, and even when i don't reboot, it starts again on its own a few hours after i turn it off
[16:37] <boringntp> i tried that: sudo update-rc.d -f ntp remove but it did not help
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> !ntp
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> boringntp, ^^^
[16:39] <boringntp> wilee-nilee: i don't see instructions to stop it there
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> boringntp, http://askubuntu.com/questions/29663/how-do-i-disable-ntpd
[16:39] <boringntp> yes i tried this command, but it didn't help
[16:39] <boringntp> (sudo update-rc.d -f ntp remove)
[16:40] <boringntp> i also tried the solution of writing "exit 0" in the file /etc/default/ntpdate
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> boringntp, read the askubuntu link.
[16:41] <boringntp> wilee-nilee: i read it, and tried both solutions
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> ah, if you don't just state what you have done we have these wasted communications, details are key here.
[16:42] <boringntp> [18:37] <boringntp> i tried that: sudo update-rc.d -f ntp remove but it did not help
[16:42] <boringntp> agreed i didn't say that i tried the "exit 0" thing
[16:43] <phillyj> how do i skip the GRUB screen and boot up directly?
[16:46] <ForDummies> Phillyj: you always have a boot program.  It's GRUB or something else.  If you keep grub, you can change its options.
[16:46] <linuxearth> hello everyone
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, Y0u can shorten the grub timeout, but be careful in not having access to it if needed.
[16:47] <ForDummies> Phillyj: you can set a timeout, so that it quickly goes to the default item.  But leave it long enough to get access if something goes wrong.
[16:47] <linuxearth> is there any ubuntu offline channel?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> linuxearth,  offline channel?
[16:47] <phillyj> ForDummies: no  i don't want to set the timeout=0
[16:47] <OerHeks> linuxearth, yes, the man pages
[16:47] <linuxearth> offline means for chating...
[16:47] <linuxearth> like making friends and tlaking
[16:47] <linuxearth> etc..etc..
[16:47] <OerHeks> oh offtopic
[16:47] <linuxearth> that's what i meant wilee-nilee
[16:48] <ForDummies> Phillyj: then be clear about what you want.  Details count.
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> linuxearth, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:48] <OerHeks> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:48] <linuxearth> oh great
[16:48] <linuxearth> thanks
[16:48] <phillyj> ForDummies: it was working fine loading into xmbcbuntu then i pressed one of the function keys trying to get into BIOS
[16:48] <linuxearth> and apart from it , any love channel where talks of love...or girl friend..can be done/...?
[16:48] <phillyj> ForDummies: that function key took me to grub and now it keeps going to grub screen
[16:49] <OerHeks> !alis | linuxearth
[16:49] <phillyj> ForDummies: i mean, it was working fine until i pressed the GRUB function screen
[16:49] <phillyj> ForDummies: grub function key*
[16:50] <ForDummies> Phillyj: How was "working fine" different from now?  Details, details.  I still don't have the picture.
[16:51] <phillyj> ForDummies: press ON > boot into XMBCbuntu (no grub screen seen; don't need to select "ubuntu"
[16:51] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Timed_Display
[16:51] <ForDummies> Phillyj: everyone has a different idea of "working fine".  Mine includes the grub screen.
[16:52] <bestdnd> What is a good way to control a headless ubuntu (12.04) from a windows machine? I'm looking for a program similar to vnc, giving me the native ubuntu screen in window on my windows machine/
[16:52] <Slart> bestdnd: well.. there is.... vnc =)
[16:52] <phillyj> ForDummies: does that explain what i mean by "working fine"?
[16:52] <ForDummies> Bestdnd: I log in with ssh.
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, "GRUB function screen" is this the grub menu?
[16:53] <DJones> bestdnd: SSH via putty if you can stick with command line
[16:53] <phillyj> wilee-nilee: yes, the black GRUB screen after you turn on the PC that gives distro options
[16:53] <ForDummies> Phillyj: sort of.  But I'm having some trouble understanding how that worked and how it changed.
[16:53] <bestdnd> didn't know vnc works on ubuntu. thanks
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, Have you changed grub in any way? If you have did you run sudo update-grub
[16:54] <Slart> bestdnd: there are also some alternatives to vnc.. which I seem to have forgotten about at the moment =/
[16:54] <Slart> !vnc
[16:54] <phillyj> ForDummies: before, i didn't have to select which distro to boot into, it was automatic bootup
[16:54] <Slart> bestdnd: ah.. freenx was the one I was thinking of
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, More than one distro defaults to showing the grub boot menu.
[16:55] <ForDummies> Phillyj: I'm guessing it was GRUB under the covers, with a timeout=0.  How that got changes is a mystery.
[16:55] <phillyj> wilee-nilee: the only change i can think of was pressing the function key that took me to the GRUB at startup; now it keeps sending me to GRUB
[16:55] <pero> is there a way to hide apps' icons from appearing in the unity panel if the apps themselves don't have such functionality?
[16:55] <ForDummies> Phillyj: what key was that?  Maybe it was special to grub?
[16:55] <boringntp> hello, how can i stop ntp from running? i stopped the service with sudo service ntp stop, but after reboot it's running again, and even when i don't reboot, it starts again on its own a few hours after i turn it off; i tried the solutions in this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/29663/how-do-i-disable-ntpd but they didn't help
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, Are you sure which distro has the grub control, if you have more than one linux install?
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> that is the default to show grub with more than one distro
[16:56] <phillyj> ForDummies: it was my f10 key; which used to be the recovery key for this pc
[16:56] <phillyj> wilee-nilee: i only have one distro on it
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, Have you run sudo update-grub in it?
[16:57] <linuxearth> does god exist?
[16:57] <phillyj> wilee-nilee: only grub options are "ubuntu" and "advanced"
[16:57] <phillyj> not yet
[16:57] <phillyj> let me boot up
[16:57] <MraMra> hello all. is this good enough for a minimal working desktop environment with lxde on a fresh _basic ubuntu server_  to be run remotely with xrdp as server and remmina as client? : 'sudo apt-get install --without-recommends lxde-core && sudo mkdir /usr/share/backgrounds && sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager'´
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> !ot | linuxearth
[16:58] <zero_coder> hello.. i cant install wine
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> !wine
[16:58] <zero_coder> its showing some core softwares will be removed if continued
[17:02] <Z65npt> I find that Ubuntu works great on the Intel integrated graphics (I'm using a Sandy Bridge processor). No need to waste money on a dedicated graphics card. Saves electricity too.
[17:03] <Guest62643>  i have problem with broken packages  when i try to intall sdl via terminal i get this : E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:03] <whoever> Guest62643: clear your package cache, update it, and try again
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | Z65npt
[17:04] <Z65npt> :p
[17:04] <phillyj> zero_coder: is that a warning or something like "remove old; install new stuff"?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> MraMra, You might try #ubuntuserver
[17:05] <zero_coder> phillyj, nope
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> doh #ubuntu-server
[17:06] <pepper_chico> what's the name of the ubuntu based distro that got released and just looks like OS X?
[17:06] <zero_coder> phillyj, "installing wine application may  remove some of the core components. do you want to continue?"
[17:06] <zero_coder> thts what I got
[17:06] <reisio> pepper_chico: elementary
[17:06] <pepper_chico> reisio, thanks
[17:06] <reisio> pepper_chico: but all GNOME-based distros look like Mac OS
[17:06] <MraMra> wilee-nilee: i'm doing it, thanks (btw, it is 'sudo aptitude install --without-recommends...' and not apt-get
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> MraMra, Not sure I have not had to do that.
[17:07] <MraMra> wilee-nilee: it's ok, tks :)
[17:08] <phillyj> zero_coder: are you installing or uninstalling?
[17:08] <zero_coder> installing
[17:08] <zero_coder> using the ubuntu software centre
[17:08] <phillyj> first time at it?
[17:08] <zero_coder> i have installed when once before
[17:09] <zero_coder> but thats was in another pc
[17:09] <zero_coder> but now i am running an ubuntu with a kde
[17:09] <phillyj> you backed everything up?
[17:09] <zero_coder> nope.
[17:10] <zero_coder> acutally i quit installling because of this
[17:10] <phillyj> zero_coder: wait
[17:10] <zero_coder> okie phillyj
[17:10] <phillyj> zero_coder: so you tried to install before?
[17:11] <zero_coder> yep. but that was lots before
[17:11] <phillyj> zero_coder: on the same machine?
[17:11] <zero_coder> yep
[17:11] <phillyj> zero_coder: if so, you might have some things still there
[17:11] <zero_coder> and formated my pc many times after that
[17:11] <phillyj> hmm
[17:12] <phillyj> have you tried to do it via command line?
[17:12] <zero_coder> nope
[17:13] <zero_coder> when tried it shows some unmet dependencies or something
[17:13] <dalex> hi all, I have a question can any one help me, I have linux mint 14  with kernel 3.5.0-17 with external webcam ID 0ac8:0328 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. A4Tech PK-130MG and in cheese give me a green like screen
[17:13] <phillyj> well, then that means it will have to download other things for wine to run
[17:13] <zero_coder> so what to do phillyj
[17:14] <phillyj> zero_coder: that is normal to download other dependencies
[17:14] <zero_coder> actually they say something will be removed also
[17:14] <lumiukko> zero_coder: what will be removed?
[17:15] <phillyj> try: 'sudo apt-get update' followed by 'sudo apt-get install wine1.4'
[17:15] <zero_coder> lemme see one minute
[17:15] <phillyj> lumiukko: maybe it's removing older dependencies?
[17:16] <zero_coder> lumiukko, many of them like kde crash client , sticky notes,and many other kde apps
[17:16] <Guest62643> what should i do when i get this error? Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:17] <is_null> hi all, one question: why do i have to re-do my keyboard shortcuts every time i update my system ?
[17:17] <is_null> i'm doing them from the GUI, settings -> keyboard
[17:18] <is_null> so probably it's a bug, i'd be glad to be informed about any known workaround
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> !details | Guest62643
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest62643, WE need details shown by the bot and what has led you to this at the least, is this a server, a regular install....etc
[17:20] <Guest62643> when i type this sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[17:20] <Guest62643>  , i get : The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:20] <Guest62643>  libsdl1.2-dev : Depends: libpulse-dev but it is not going to be installed
[17:20] <Guest62643> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:20] <Guest62643> , I run xubuntu 13.04
[17:20] <FloodBot1> Guest62643: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> !libsdl1.2-dev
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> !info libsdl1.2-dev
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !info libsdl1.2-dev
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> There it is
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> There it is
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress
[17:22] <Guest62643> i dont get it what shold i type? this? sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2?
[17:23] <holstein> Guest62643: sometimes, i just remove the package that is causing the issues, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> Guest62643, YOU have a broken package warning you have to fix that first, can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Guest62643,
[17:25] <saiarcot895> I'm getting a ton of BADSIG errors when running sudo apt-get update (The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 7B1AB59047B4D1C4 Launchpad qbittorrent) Any way to fix this?
[17:27] <Guest62643> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5996818/
[17:27] <holstein> Guest62643: i see no error messages.. what are you trying to do?
[17:28] <karab44> is my question too hard?
[17:28] <reisio> karab44: that question? Or some other question?
[17:28] <holstein> !volunteers | karab44
[17:28] <karab44> holstein: nobody ask you :)
[17:28] <Guest62643> here is what im trying to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/5996822/
[17:28] <reisio> you just asked nobody in particular :p
[17:29] <holstein> karab44: use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for "chat".. i dont see a question in the recent scroll back..
[17:29] <karab44> holstein: look more carefully
[17:29] <reisio> looking for questions is boring
[17:29] <karab44> reisio: I want to patch ubuntu kernel
[17:29] <reisio> karab44: okay, what's stopping you?
[17:30] <holstein> karab44: feel free and patch what you like.. what are you trying to patch how, and why??
[17:30] <karab44> to make openvz works
[17:30] <reisio> karab44: okay, what's stopping you?
[17:30] <DJones> karab44: You've not asked anything for about an hour. People aren't going to look back that far to find a question
[17:30] <phillyj> i found his question
[17:30] <phillyj> something about openVZ
[17:30] <reisio> phillyj: let me get you a merit badge :)
[17:30] <karab44> DJones: nobody replied for an hour
[17:30] <reisio> mmm, I wonder what other obvious things can be stated
[17:31] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVZ
[17:31] <karab44> can we people stop arguing each other?
[17:31] <beak> hey, I am need to dual boot a laptop with Windows 7 (school requirements) , which do I install first?
[17:31] <reisio> beak: Windows
[17:31] <njalk> beak, windows is easier
[17:31] <reisio> beak: be a little easier
[17:31] <beak> reisio, Why?
[17:31] <njalk> both will work
[17:31] <reisio> beak: because Windows only supports itself
[17:31] <phillyj> karab44: whats your problem with openVZ?
[17:31] <reisio> beak: and Unix supports many things
[17:31] <reisio> (like booting Windows)
[17:32] <karab44> phillyj: ubuntu does not support it
[17:32] <beak> So when I partition the drive, which is the bootloader I use
[17:32] <reisio> beak: you just install Windows as normal, but leave disk space for Ubuntu
[17:32] <reisio> beak: then install Ubuntu as normal
[17:32] <DJones> beak: Install windows first, then Ubuntu, if you do it the other way round, windows would overwrite the grub bootloader leaving you unable to get into ubuntu]
[17:32] <Guest62643>  i dont understand step 1   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5996826/
[17:32] <reisio> beak: ideally that is all
[17:32] <beak> ahh
[17:32] <karab44> phillyj: especially kernel so I am somekind of diesel in this subject how to patch kernel to keep current settings and make OpenVZ works
[17:32] <evilmarshmallow> Hi there, about the update manager --> settings  what is the difference about all that tab updates??? What is the most important????
[17:33] <reisio> Guest62643: which part of step 1?
[17:33] <beak> Man, Windows pisses me off
[17:33] <holstein> Guest62643: ask the maintainer of the package for support
[17:33] <karab44> it's important to do not downgrade kernel and keep current settings
[17:33] <reisio> beak: you can also resize an existing Windows installation
[17:33] <phillyj> karab44: can't u use something else? i read the openVZ is out of date
[17:33] <reisio> beak: yes :p
[17:34] <karab44> openvz seems to be good and my admin console supports only openvz unfortunetely
[17:34] <Guest62643> the running what does it mean?
[17:34] <holstein> karab44: what functionality are you seeking? maybe a volunteer can suggest a more supported and well developed application for you
[17:35] <DJones> !compile | Guest62643 Looks like you should have a good read of this before following the instructions
[17:35] <karab44> holstein: a virtual server that works with ISPConfig3
[17:36] <holstein> karab44: http://www.ispconfig.org/documentation/ is where i would start..
[17:37] <reisio> those control panels are all security problems
[17:37] <Guest62643> !packages
[17:38] <holstein> Guest62643: you are not using prebuilt packages.. or supported repo packages.. you are installing something from an outside source, and you will need to get support from them on how you are intended to run them in ubuntu
[17:38] <karab44> holstein: it's where I started
[17:38] <karab44> and finished right here
[17:38] <Guest62643> !checkinstall
[17:40] <evilmarshmallow> anyone? <evilmarshmallow> Hi there, about the update manager --> settings  what is the difference about all that tab updates??? What is the most important????
[17:41] <reisio> tab updates?
[17:42] <holstein> evilmarshmallow: its up to you and your needs.. i personally manually upgrade with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:43] <DJones> evilmarshmallow: They're different types of updates and what to install, Pre-released updates are ones that will normally be moved into the main repo's once they've been confirmed as not having problems, unsupported updates are exactly that, updates that have been issued but which don't have any support
[17:43] <evilmarshmallow> hi holstein thanks for your friendly time; if I run sudo apt-get upgrade it will take all that tabs updates.
[17:44] <evilmarshmallow> I just want security update, not more
[17:44] <evilmarshmallow> I will need all of that?
[17:44] <holstein> evilmarshmallow: then select "security updates"
[17:45] <DJones> evilmarshmallow: On my system, the default is for the first two to be ticked, the last two aren't ticked and don't get used
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, I would be careful with manipulating the updates.
[17:49] <OerHeks> funny handdrawn page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates but usefull
[17:49] <evilmarshmallow> If I selec just security update, the other options wont affect my system wilee-nilee ???
[17:51] <evilmarshmallow> I suppose that it has to run normally.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, It is up to you but ubuntu has many dependencies, and can be dealt with by experienced users, why just the security updates?
[17:52] <evilmarshmallow> What is your recomendation for an workstation in order to create some documents and a kind of programing with eclipse and some network admin utilities ???
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, What is the release?
[17:53] <evilmarshmallow> 12.04
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, why just the security updates?
[17:54] <evilmarshmallow> I don't I just heard something about but i am really  new on it..
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, Better the reason than to not mess around in that area if you want a stable setup, it makes no sense without a vaild reason.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, If you want to freeze specif apps that is easily done.
[17:56] <evilmarshmallow> So you are recommending me to use all that tab updates selected, isn't it?
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, I'm not sure what you mean by tabbed updates, is this just what the update manger shows?
[17:57] <evilmarshmallow> Yes it is
[17:58] <DJones> wilee-nilee: I think they mean the "Updates" tab of Software & Updates
[17:58] <evilmarshmallow> The update manager shows many tabs about updates
[17:58] <evilmarshmallow> in the options settings
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> evilmarshmallow, AS long as you do not see partial upgrade which you would not run, I would run it.
[18:00] <evilmarshmallow> why many options to keep your system security (Thinking about Windows update) I it make me wonder about it. I cant understand the difference...
[18:00] <spaceout> i am having problems with an nginx upstart script. it was working yesterday, and writing to /var/log/upstart/nginx.log, but today 'sudo start nginx' hangs, and isnot logging anything. any suggestions?
[18:03] <mchater> hi, i did an apt-get upgrade yesterday and since then my system won't boot at all. I get this panic: run-init: nuking initramfs contents: directory not empty
[18:03] <evilmarshmallow> So guys, wilee-nilee, DJones, holstein ... In resume I just have to keep default selections ???
[18:04] <mchater> it doesn't seem to be an actual kernel panic. plymouth upgraded during the apt-get upgrade, so I am think it's causing problems.
[18:04] <mchater> any ideas?
[18:04] <DJones> evilmarshmallow: I would just keep the default as it is
[18:05] <evilmarshmallow> Ok, thanks a lot for all your attention guys
[18:05] <evilmarshmallow> have a nice day.
[18:05] <evilmarshmallow> =)
[18:05] <reisio> no man
[18:05] <reisio> YOU have a nice day
[18:07] <mengine> Hi, I rent a webhotel in USA but are currently located in europe. The latency is about 150ms. Does anybody know about a service that acts like a webserver but only caches and redirect a perticular website?
[18:08] <mengine> that I could use to reduce the latency
[18:11] <lecter> hello, how can I upgrade 10.10 to 13.4?
[18:12] <kostkon> !eol | lecter
[18:13] <kostkon> lecter, 10.10 is eol so it's a little more complicated than just pressing the upgrade button. and a clean install is always a good option in such cases as yours
[18:13] <Ampelbein> lecter: There is no direct path, you need to go 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> etc
[18:13] <Jordan_U> lecter: For that old of a release, while you can still upgrade, it will probably be easier (and certainly be faster and use much less bandwidth) to just install fresh.
[18:14] <lecter> how do upgrade to 11.04
[18:14] <DJones> !eolupgrade | lecter You can use the bots instructions to start with, but a clean install will probably be better,
[18:14] <kostkon> lecter, 11.04 is eol too
[18:14] <lecter> yeah but I can climb the ladder back
[18:14] <Ampelbein> lecter: Follow the link that ubottu gave you.
[18:15] <root_> #anonopps
[18:16] <lecter> that link only tell how to reach 10.4
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> lecter, Your best doing a fresh install that upgrade would take a long time and be prone to problems.
[18:17] <lecter> will it require to reformat the partition its on?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> lecter, Only you know that, do you have room for another partition?
[18:20] <lecter> no
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> lecter, the eol link tells you how to do the upgrade, personally I would not do it that way, you have to make a decision here, do you backup what you have and do a fresh, or risk the upgrade, I would do a clone first to be safe in case of failure.
[18:23] <sauraedron> hi, how do i check if my internet is connected or not through nmcli. I want a boolean val 0 or 1
[18:23] <lecter> can I try to upgradeyup itll take longer than I hoped
[18:23] <pfifo> I cant get my pycrypto program to work, I notice that my 12.04 install is using pycrypto 2.4.1 why are we so out of date here?
[18:24] <amoussou> hello
[18:24] <lecter> a clean install would be better
[18:24] <sauraedron> anyone?
[18:24] <lecter> problem is to re-install packages and backups
[18:25] <flyssuck>  /server irc.sorcery.net
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> lecter, Welcome to linux, that is a skill you need. ;)
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> or in any OS on upgrades really
[18:25] <reisio> sauraedron: I'm a one
[18:27] <sauraedron> reisio : Hi
[18:28] <reisio> sauraedron: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com 2>/dev/null && grep -q '0% packet' && echo 'It works!'
[18:28] <pfifo> !clone | lecter
[18:28] <Ampelbein> sauraedron: You could check if "nmcli -t -f state nm status" returns "connected"
[18:28] <pfifo> ubottu, why are you ignoring me
[18:29] <reisio> 2012 Jun 23 22:42:26 <ubottu>	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate
[18:29] <pfifo> see ubottu, people are doing your job for you now, why are we even paying you?
[18:30] <ElFizbanio> whoever is responsible, will die
[18:30] <reisio> frealz
[18:30] <sauraedron> reisio; Ampelbein; i have this **nmcli -t con up id "Tata Docomo Internet" ** i want to check whether this was succesful or not
[18:31] <reisio> sauraedron: && echo 'success'
[18:31] <reisio> unless it's a poor application indeed
[18:31] <Ampelbein> sauraedron: You will get exit status "4" if the connection activation failed.
[18:31] <lecter> how do we install the packages from ubuntu studio?
[18:31] <Jordan_U> reisio: I think you meant for there to be a pipe in there.
[18:31] <sauraedron> **nmcli -t -f state nm status** works fine
[18:32] <reisio> Jordan_U: no that's something else
[18:32] <Ampelbein> Jordan_U: Why do you think there should be a pipe?
[18:32] <reisio> that's if you want a script to stop if something fails
[18:32] <lecter> how do we install the packages from ubuntu studio?
[18:32] <Jordan_U> Ampelbein: reisio: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com 2>/dev/null && grep -q '0% packet' && echo 'It works!'
[18:33] <reisio> lecter: ubuntustudio-desktop, et al.
[18:33] <lecter> kk
[18:33] <lecter> via synaptic?
[18:33] <reisio> lecter: via whatever package manager interface you like
[18:33] <reisio> synaptic should work
[18:34] <lecter> kk
[18:34] <sauraedron> Ampelbein: what if connection is activated? I mean what code?
[18:34] <Ampelbein> Jordan_U: It pings www.yahoo.com 3 times (-c 3), if the exit status is "0" (&&) it will grep and if that exits with "0" (&&) it will echo. No pipe needed.
[18:34] <lecter> a full reinstall is long since i like having almost all graphic interface
[18:34] <Ampelbein> sauraedron: If there is no error it will exit with exit status "0" like almost every other application on the planet.
[18:35] <Ampelbein> sauraedron: You can check in "man nmcli" the exit codes"
[18:35] <hansp> !netflix
[18:35] <reisio> that is a truly oddly worded factoid
[18:35] <lecter> and then I wanna install a VM on which ill install another distro
[18:36] <Jordan_U> Ampelbein: reisio: Means run "ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com" and redirect stderr to /dev/null, and don't redirect stdout at all, then run "grep -q '0% packet'" with grep reading from stdin, which is *not* the output of ping, but something else (probably the keyboard), then if the user happens to have entered '0% packet' at the keyboard, print "It works!". I don't think that's what is intended.
[18:36] <reisio> Jordan_U: that's not what it means :)
[18:36] <reisio> someone already gave him the command to use nmcli though
[18:36] <kostkon> hansp, actually now there's also this http://fds-team.de/cms/articles/2013-08/pipelight-using-silverlight-in-linux-browsers.html
[18:36] <reisio> so it's academic
[18:37] <reisio> kostkon: fancy
[18:37] <hansp> oh cool kostkon ! :D
[18:37] <Jordan_U> reisio: Try running your command and notice that it will pause waiting for input from the keyboard. That's not academic.
[18:37] <kostkon> yeah, netflix in your native browser
[18:37] <reisio> kostkon: where'd you happen upon that?
[18:37] <reisio> Jordan_U: it will not, and I don't suggest people use commands I don't know the outcome of
[18:37] <kostkon> reisio, ?
[18:38] <reisio> kostkon: where'd you hear about it?
[18:38] <kostkon> reisio, very recent development :P http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQzODk
[18:38] <kostkon> reisio, let's say... today?
[18:38] <reisio> kostkon: :)
[18:39] <Jordan_U> reisio: Maybe you made a typo in your message that you didn't make in the terminal, but I just ran (copy and paste) your exact command in a terminal, and it waits for user input (and prints success if and only if you type a line containing "0% packet" ).
[18:39] <reisio> Jordan_U: maybe you made a typo
[18:40] <pfifo> reisio, Jordan_U is right, your command is borked
[18:40] <reisio> pfifo: nope
[18:40] <Jordan_U> reisio: Please, copy and paste from your own original message into a terminal. You could also confirm in #bash that my interpretation of what your command actually means is correct.
[18:41] <reisio> ah you're right, null | grep
[18:41] <Ampelbein> Jordan_U is right. I misread the command.
[18:41] <reisio> what a pointless conversation, though
[18:44] <pfifo> I cant get my pycrypto program to work, I notice that my 12.04 install is using pycrypto 2.4.1 why are we so out of date here?
[18:45] <sauraedron> Ampelbein reisio sorry if i missed you there
[18:45] <reisio> sauraedron: get what you want?
[18:45] <sauraedron> yes
[18:45] <reisio> :)
[18:45] <Ampelbein> pfifo: Well, 12.04 came out 16 months ago and noone has requested a package update yet.
[18:46] <Ampelbein> pfifo: And considering that python-crypto has like 90 rdepends, a SRU/backport is highly unlikely.
[18:48]  * pfifo huffs and types python setup.py install
[18:48] <sauraedron> :D
[18:49] <alucard-vamp> hello as I can block https URL without using proxy server
[18:49] <OnkelTem> Hi. After installation new 13.04 system I can't do anything with apt-get: apt-get upgrade segfaults, apt-get -f install - segfalting too
[18:50] <sauraedron> n<reisio><Ampelbein> thanks
[18:51] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: Did you verify the install media before installing? Is it possible that the drive/disk you booted from or the drive you installed to are bad (hardware)? Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[18:51] <alucard-vamp> hello as I can block https URL without using proxy server and not domain block
[18:51] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: It's also worth checking your RAM.
[18:51] <pfifo> alucard-vamp, you might be able to use iptables for that depending on exactl;y what your doing
[18:51] <nl287> what is better: install ubuntu and xfce4 or install xubuntu?
[18:52] <pfifo> nl287, install ubuntu and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:53] <nl287> pfifo: why do not install xubuntu?
[18:53] <pfifo> nl287, you can install xubuntu and then, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop too
[18:54] <Fyodorovna> nl287, What is it you want xfce4 is a lighter version of xubuntu.
[18:55] <nl287> wilee-nilee: ubuntu + xfce4 is lighter to xubuntu?
[18:55] <HungryHungryPoke> nl287, they're basically the same thing
[18:56] <alucard-vamp> pfifo, for example an avatar block twitter
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> nl287, xfce4 is the base of xubuntu I believe as far as desktops
[18:56] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I make my HDD into a bootable iso image? I know that its sda1.
[18:57] <pfifo> nl287, lubuntu is even lighter if your going for lightweight here
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, Not the best of ideas, why?
[18:57] <pfifo> alucard-vamp, you just want to block a picture from loading?
[18:57] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, I already decided on making my own distro. Why ain't it a good idea?
[18:58] <nl287> pfifo: yes, but what is lighter. Ubuntu + fluxbox or lubuntu?
[18:58] <HungryHungryPoke> nl287, lubuntu by a hair, but it's not that big of a deal
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, HD's can be hard to boot that way at times, and has no correlation to making your own distro
[18:58] <HungryHungryPoke> any program you run on it is probably going to be so heavy that it won't matter
[18:58] <pfifo> nl287, well lubuntu, unless your talking about only installing ubuntu core and fluxbox
[18:58] <CountryfiedLinux> wilee-nilee, What I wanna do is take what's on my HDD and make it into a bootable live iso
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> CountryfiedLinux, Besides th\e limitations of usb speeds
[18:59] <HungryHungryPoke> even faster would be ubuntu without any window manager
[18:59] <HungryHungryPoke> all command line
[18:59] <AndreeeCZ> hi. Is this down? http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/
[18:59] <AndreeeCZ> i cant update
[18:59] <alucard-vamp> pfifo,  the blouqear oust the avatar rejected by url
[18:59] <pfifo> what?
 pastebin.com/9D3LDPkq on going to else i want it to reconnect and again go to line 7
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, Why a archive, does not open here.
[19:00] <reisio> sauraedron: then you want a function
 how do i implement label in here?
[19:00] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, what should i do?
[19:00] <reisio> sauraedron: a function, ask #bash
[19:01] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, i cant install software
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, Answering questions would a good start. ;)
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> be*
[19:01] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
 Ok thanks and gn
[19:01] <reisio> adios ;)
[19:01] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, sry i didnt get it was a question. Anyway i dont understand it :)
[19:01] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, could you reformulate pls
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, Your link is to a archive not the main repos, and it s down from here.
[19:02] <alucard-vamp> pfifo, as blouquea by iptables block only url without domain
[19:02] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, ok. Thats propably because there is an old ubuntu there.
[19:02] <CountryfiedLinux> pfifo, wow that looks SUPER complicated.
[19:02] <snoop> hi
[19:02] <HoT|2fC^> hello :-)
[19:03] <snoop> :D
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, What is the release?
[19:03] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, how do i check it
[19:03] <CountryfiedLinux> pfifo, I was thinking something more along the line of my current setup apps theme and all, made into a mountable live iso image.
[19:03] <pfifo> alucard-vamp, I cant figure out what your saying, you should try asking in an ubuntu channel that speaks your native tounge
[19:03] <val___> hello
[19:03] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, yeah... what you just asked for is super complicated
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, lsb_release -a
[19:04] <marawan2> hello every one
[19:04] <CountryfiedLinux> pfifo, So no easy copy over to bootable live iso way?
[19:04] <alucard-vamp> pfifo,  I want redirect a domainA.com/photo.gif to domainB.com/image.gif
[19:04] <alucard-vamp> whitout proxy if posible
[19:04] <marawan2> my microphone isn't working
[19:04] <HungryHungryPoke> CountryfiedLinux, have you tried just building off of a liveusb as is?
[19:04] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, no, the easy way would be to install to a usb thumb
[19:04] <marawan2> and i am not talking about the mic device
[19:05] <AndreeeCZ> marawan2, what does 'isn't working' mean?
[19:05] <pfifo> alucard-vamp, fake it out in your /etc/hosts file
[19:05] <marawan2> this thing built in the laptop is supposed to recognize my voice
[19:05] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, 10.10
[19:05] <marawan2> but it doesn't
[19:05] <val___> my apt-get install is stuck at 0%, ive been looking on forums and ask.ubuntu
[19:06] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: i tried multiple microphones but they don't work
[19:06] <CountryfiedLinux> HungryHungryPoke, There is no live USB for Ubuntu with Mate, and I made a distro I call Matebuntu with a nice theme, wallpaper, and docky.
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, Were you in before asking about this upgrade?
[19:06] <AndreeeCZ> marawan2, did you check alsa-mixer?
[19:06] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: ?
[19:06] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: please explain
[19:06] <AndreeeCZ> marawan2, open up terminal and type alsa-mixer
[19:06] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: have in mind i am running lubuntu 13.04
[19:07] <HungryHungryPoke> CountryfiedLinux, but youcould use normal usb ubuntu, then install mate and docky
[19:07] <HungryHungryPoke> I mean, it's not clean and neat, but it should work
[19:07] <AndreeeCZ> marawan2, there try to find your mic, enable it and bring volume up. What app do you want to use with the microphone?
[19:07] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: no command found
[19:07] <gilles> I'm sorry to bother everyone, but I swear to God I've searched the entire web to find a solution.
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, 10.10 is end of life you can upgrade or fresh install basically, a upgrade is a eol path that is specific.
[19:07] <marawan2> i typed "alsa-mixer"
[19:07] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: nothing came up
[19:07] <CountryfiedLinux> HungryHungryPoke, I know that, but I wanna roll out my own distro. HungryHungryPoke Check out www.youtube.com/countryfiedlinux watch the Matebuntu video and see. That's what I wanna put on a live iso :D
[19:07] <Foxhoundz> how can I remove the amazon spyware package?
[19:07] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: i want to talk on skype
[19:08] <tozen> marawan2: alsamixer
[19:08] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, are you trying to distribute this? hence the need for a livecd?
[19:08] <AndreeeCZ> wilee-nilee, so i need to upgrade.. no way without it
[19:08] <CountryfiedLinux> Foxhoundz, I think its sudo apt-get remove unity-shopping-lens ?
[19:08] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: the problem isn't with skype though (i tried other recording programs like audacity)
[19:08] <CountryfiedLinux> pfifo, yes
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> AndreeeCZ, 10.10 is not supported.
[19:08] <hogilber> hola
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> !eol | AndreeeCZ
[19:09] <marawan2> thanks tozen but what know
[19:09] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, well seeing as how you didnt really 'create a distro' why dont you just provide instructions on how to install mate and stuff on ubuntu?
[19:09] <AndreeeCZ> marawan2, did you check your sound settings?
[19:09] <marawan2> tozen, mic says 0
[19:09] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: how do i do
[19:09] <marawan2> AndreeeCZ: i am new to linux
[19:09] <tozen> marawan2: use arrows buttons to manage it
[19:09] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, or provide a PPA for your stuff, that will earn you points in my book
[19:10] <AndreeeCZ> marawan2, well some menu->settings->sound (or something similar)
[19:10] <kostkon> marawan2, press on the speaker icon, the select sound settings
[19:10] <kostkon> then*
[19:10] <marawan2> kostkon, where is that speaker icon
[19:10] <CountryfiedLinux> pfifo, Why not just roll it out as a distro? Its no different really. BTW I helped with fixing bad instructions in the Mate wiki repos for Ubuntu, so there's the points there.
[19:10] <HungryHungryPoke> CountryfiedLinux,  hmm... if you want to role your own distro, there should probably be a better channel. maybe ##linux , #distro, #debian (to base it on debian and such), etc. Not sure where exactly
[19:10] <kostkon> marawan2, in your tray, up right
[19:10] <marawan2> and AndreeeCZ: no there is no menu -> setting -> sound
[19:11] <gilles> So here it goes: I'm currently running XBMCBuntu on an old laptop. I was tinkering with XBMC but I wanted to get a Joystick to work so for that I had to log out and login to Ubuntu. So that's exactly what I did, entered everything correctly and clicked 'Login'. However, nothing show up, I'm only seeing a 'blue screen' (not a windows one lol). So I CTRL-ALT-F1'ed and now I'm in some kind of terminal.
[19:11] <gilles> Now my question to you guys is how do I relogin to XBMC via the terminal?
[19:11] <CountryfiedLinux> HungryHungryPoke, I dunno where either, but there's a lot of people here and its hard getting help in whats most likely "dead channels".
[19:12] <HungryHungryPoke> CountryfiedLinux, stay connected after you post your questoin. Those "dead" channels are visited every once in a while (say, every few hours) by people that can often help. But they're busy doing other things.
[19:12] <cloudgeek> hey all
[19:12] <cloudgeek> back to my irc after 6 months
[19:12] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, making your own distro involes alot more than just making a livecd.
[19:12] <kostkon> cloudgeek, hey you
[19:12] <HungryHungryPoke> CountryfiedLinux, I've had questions answered after leaving it open for half a day, a day, and so forth.
[19:12] <Hiig|2> hey guys, just popping in with a quick question. i royally screwed over my virtual machine, and have to reinstall it, but i want to take this opportunity to change the OS. whats the absolute smallest RAM consuming distro available? as long as it has apt-get, im game
[19:12] <kostkon> cloudgeek, wb
[19:12] <Spooney> Hi,,
[19:13] <CountryfiedLinux> pfifo, Not really. I could just roll out another live iso every 6 months. Just wanna learn how.
[19:13] <CountryfiedLinux> Maybe clonezilla?
[19:13] <Spooney> Can someone tiny bit help meh ?
[19:13] <kostkon> Spooney, just ask the question
[19:13] <cloudgeek> I am appyling for fall admission in master in computer science ,any irc or guidance ,some sort university for geeks
[19:13] <cloudgeek> kostkon: heyyyy
[19:13] <marawan2> kostkon: please specify, what is the tray?
[19:13] <cloudgeek> Spooney: heyyy
[19:13] <marawan2> kostkon: i use a laptopo
[19:13] <Spooney> I need to get skype >.> no i am not noob that's not able to but its just impossible to install over dependecies
[19:13] <marawan2> laptop*
[19:14] <pfifo> CountryfiedLinux, well, if thats really what you want todo, learning to make livecd's is step #1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[19:14] <Spooney> i tried some magic stuff heh but i didnt succesed ,,, :/
[19:14] <kostkon> marawan2, see the image http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/yeti-1.png
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !details | Spooney
[19:15] <Spooney> ah sure sorry 13.04 64bit
 that is what i am trying to find, is there any terminal command that would take me to the mic settings
[19:15] <gilles> When I'm in CTRL-ALT-F1, what's the exact command to login with another username and session?
[19:15] <Spooney> well i have it so meesed up now , but when i tried to install it i got missing libsound2 what was impossible to install because missing candidates
[19:15] <gilles> I can't CTRL-ALT-F7 'cause I'm getting a black screen.
[19:16] <HungryHungryPoke> gilles, just enter your username, then enter your password
[19:16] <cloudgeek> kostkon: any irc for research students ??
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> gilles  did you create a different user ?
[19:16] <pfifo> gilles, try F8 yet?
[19:16] <kostkon> cloudgeek, no idea :/
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, For best help put all the details in a single post or it will be lost.
[19:16] <Spooney> yup i see,,,
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:16] <tozen> marawan2: what about alsamixer? where the problem to setup volume in there?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> !alis | cloudgeek
[19:16] <HungryHungryPoke> gilles, also, with ctrl+alt+f7, sometimes it takes a minute to load. I don't know why.
[19:16] <marawan2> kostkon: again i am using lubuntu
[19:16] <kostkon> marawan2, oh right
[19:17] <marawan2> tozen: i don't find anything in that command
[19:17] <kostkon> marawan2, then, yeah, your only option is alsamixer
[19:17] <marawan2> it just shows me some stats
[19:17] <Spooney> wilee-nilee, 13.04 64bit, Wanna to install skype > missing libasound2, impossible to install because missing candidates :/
[19:17] <tozen> marawan2:  did u read what i said u carefully?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !skype
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> !libasound2
[19:18] <gilles> HungryHungryPoke, MonkeyDust, pfifo: I logged into Ubuntu but it's giving me nothing but a blue screen, so I went to ctrl alt f1 to try and get back to the xbmcbuntu session
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> !info libasound2,
[19:18] <renebarbosa> !filezilla
[19:18] <marawan2> tozen: sorry man but all i see is screen with stats that i don't understand
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, you see the bots messages?
[19:18] <Orfeous> hi everyone! is it possible to move the physical harddrive from computer 1 (x86) to computer 2 (x64). harddrive is current running latest ubuntu 13.04 x86
[19:19] <Spooney> more or less wilee-nilee, however manual not workin ,,,
[19:19] <tozen> marawan2: u can use arrow buttons to setup levels and move right and left trough the table, pal
[19:19] <reisio> Orfeous: yup
[19:19] <gilles> pfifo CTRL-ALT-F8 is just giving me a black screen...
[19:19] <reisio> Orfeous: might have to alter your kernel/modules/drivers
[19:19] <pfifo> gilles, I dont think thats supported here, doesnt the xbmc stuff have its own channel
[19:19] <marawan2> tozen: ! how didn't i think of that
[19:20] <Orfeous> reisio: i want it to run with x64 kernel etc..
[19:20] <gilles> pfifo I don't know, but it's based on ubuntu, so the command should be exactly the same, I'd think.
[19:20] <Spooney> wilee-nilee because missing dependecies its impossible to, and i have special conact there so i need to log in >.<
[19:21] <Orfeous> reisio: ah, just found some guides with "upgrading..."
[19:21] <val___> anyone know how to fix the problem with apt-get? stuck at 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]
[19:21] <tozen> marawan2: did u get it?
[19:21] <reisio> Orfeous: you'd have to reinstall for that
[19:21] <pfifo> gilles, I have no idea what window manager it uses, and I know 3 different commands for starting a desktop manager
[19:21] <val___> ive been looking everywhere, and i dont think its a mirror issue,
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, seems to be libasound2-dev is needed not sure really.
[19:21] <marawan2> tozen: ok, now that the mic bar went all the way up
[19:21] <val___> because i am able to run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade without any problems
[19:21] <marawan2> tozen: how do i test it
[19:21] <Hiig|2> no suggestions for me? least ram consuming distro that uses apt-get?
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/libasound2-dev
[19:22] <tozen> marawan2: whistl up
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Hiig|2  xubuntu and lubuntu are light
[19:22] <pfifo> Hiig|2, headless ubuntu-server
[19:22] <Hiig|2> currently running ubuntu server on my virtual machine, and its using 500 megs of ram straight after the install
[19:22] <marawan2> tozen: ?
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, I thought the skype install from there site gets all the dependencies for you you would just run the latest.
[19:23] <Spooney> wille-nilee Impossible to find package~ no its not it stuck at this
[19:23] <Hiig|2> i just need something completely stripped down, and able to use apt-get
[19:23] <Spooney> it never did this before wilee-nilee
[19:23] <entreri> hi
[19:23] <cloudgeek> MonkeyDust: thanks
[19:23] <Spooney> wilee-nilee also it's completly fresh install ~
[19:23] <pfifo> Hiig|2, are you sure you dont have X running?
[19:23] <Hiig|2> pfifo: ill double check
[19:24] <Hiig|2> yep. sure
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, Try this install, this is out of my area if exacting info, however skype is not a difficult thing in general.
[19:24] <pfifo> Hiig|2, learn to debootstrap
[19:24] <nl287> Hiig|2: my ubuntu server using only 350 mb ram, mysql,nginx,ftp
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64
[19:24] <entreri> i need change pictute size, is there a program for this
[19:24] <Hiig|2> pfifo: i are linux retard
[19:24] <Guest10097> when i try to install pygame i get this error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5997147/
[19:25] <entreri> but picture dont damage
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> entreri  gimp is good
[19:25] <entreri> thanks
[19:25] <pfifo> Guest10097, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:26] <Spooney> wilee-nilee http://13q.imghost.us/Xg/Screenshot%20from%202013-08-17%2021:25:32.png
[19:26] <Hiig|2> nl287: okay thats confusing me. how are you using that little, when im literally staring at top directly after installation?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, I'm in windows and norton is blocking that site as malicious
[19:26] <cyber5am> hi guys any ideas i made usb multiboot using yumi and some of isos were unlisted and dont show up in the bootmenu
[19:27] <Hiig|2> top shows i already have 556808 kib used
[19:27] <pfifo> Hiig|2, ohh, well cant help you there, but you can use the debootstrap program to build little mini-ubuntu's with nothing installed but like 42 core packages (including apt-get)
[19:27] <Spooney> wilee-nilee its just another site its direct to picture ~ i promise
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, Picture means nothing.
[19:27] <Spooney> wilee-nille i know theoreticaly it sounds easy , but its not -.-
[19:27] <Hiig|2> pfifo: okay, where do i find this?
[19:28] <Spooney> wilee-nilee wanna get ssh?
[19:28] <entreri> everyone hear elementary os
[19:28] <pfifo> Hiig|2, its in the repos, `sudo apt-get install debootstrap` google and the man page can offer suggestions on how to get the most out of it
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, at least without an explanation, no ssh, there are channel norms here, it means explain your problem.
[19:28] <tozen> marawan2: tipe in console gnome-control-center then push on Sound and Input then make some nois and see on the bar
[19:29] <marlinc> Is there any application for Ubuntu server than can organize music and video's? So automatically place music in a specific directory and video in another. And maybe can even tag music
[19:29] <Spooney> wilee-nilee how more may i explain ?
[19:29] <nl287> Hiig|2: i do not do anything. Just ubuntu 12.04 server with some services
[19:29] <Hiig|2> pfifo: oh so i used debootstrap on an already installed OS?
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> Spooney, Honestly I'm not your best help here, so the channel will be better in general. ;)
[19:29] <marawan2> i am sending a screen shot tozen
[19:29] <cyber5am> would the mini ubuntus be good for a tablet or phone
[19:29] <marawan2> http://imgur.com/IPISj60
[19:30] <marawan2> Tozen: http://imgur.com/IPISj60
[19:30] <Spooney> Anoyone more knows how install wors-ever skype ?
[19:30] <pfifo> Hiig|2, yeah, like you can make a ubuntu-core on a directory somewhere and have qemu or what not run it
[19:30] <marawan2> tozen: this is how my alsamixer looks like
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> cyber5am, The mini is just a net install.
[19:30] <Hiig|2> okay, installed it. going to look through the wiki now
[19:30] <tozen> marawan2: tipe in console gnome-control-center then push on Sound go to Input then make some noise and see on the bar
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> !touch | cyber5am for phone
[19:31] <cyber5am> hmm sound like worth a look got an old tablet i wanna mess with
[19:31] <marawan2> tozen: tipe? what is the console gnome-control-center
[19:31] <Ghost7> Yo
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> cyber5am, 12.04 it is called the mini, after that it is called the alternative, for a mini net install.
[19:31] <entreri> brightness is lower i open the laptop  on Fn  how i fixed this?
[19:31] <Ghost7> Anyone can jelp me?
[19:32] <Ghost7> help*
[19:32] <tozen> marawan2: console is console Ctrl+Alt+T
[19:32] <BluesKaj> !ask | Ghost7
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> Ghost7, Not without a a question on your issues
[19:32] <Ghost7> ok mates calm down
[19:33] <BluesKaj> guess he doesn't help after all :)
[19:33] <BluesKaj> need
[19:33] <xkernel> why this archive is not working http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports?
[19:34] <marawan2>  tozen: it is not installed, should i install it
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> xkernel, Opens here how are you using it?
[19:35] <tozen> marawan2: what isn't installed?
[19:35] <xkernel> wilee-nilee, it open in the browser but i'm trying to use it with rootstock which is not working
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> xkernel, Not sure, however details are what is needed for good help.
[19:36] <marawan2> the gnome control center
[19:36] <marawan2> it is not installed
[19:36] <cyber5am> ok thanks wilee
[19:37] <tozen> marawan2: well click on speaker icon on your tray then choose Sound Settings option
[19:37] <Spooney> wilee-nilee what should i doooo >D
[19:37] <jcorgan> anyone here familiar with the livecd process or is there a better channelf or that?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> cyber5am, No problem, with the switching of names on the mini and alternative it can be confusing.
[19:37] <xkernel> wilee-nilee, "Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-armel/Packages"
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> jcorgan  just ask your question
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> xkernel, I'm not your best help here. ;)
[19:38] <jcorgan> when the livecd discovers partitions on a local hard drive, it mounts them noexec, i am remastering a livecd but want to change that behavior
[19:38] <marawan2> have you checked http://imgur.com/IPISj60, tozen?
[19:39] <jcorgan> i'm familiar with the mastering process, so only need to find out  about changing the mounting options
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> jcorgan  i guess you that in /etc/fstab
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> you do*
[19:41] <jcorgan> etc/fstab is blank on the livecd master
[19:41] <jcorgan> i don't know what the automounter is on the livecd but i'm sure the config for that is what i need to change
[19:42] <marawan2> tozen
[19:43] <Spooney> omgg almost nothing is possible to instal heh , tried to virtualbox but loool nope dependecies again
[19:44] <marawan2> !mic
[19:45] <cyber5am> as youve probly guessed im new to linux but im loving it tryed it out years ago but didnt have the patients to stick with it i wish i had i prefer ubuntu but am trying out others im on pinguy at moment but im thinking debian could be good longterm choice for the stability but i do like to customize a bit and it dosen't seem  to be as easy to do as some of the others
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> cyber5am, Hardly no support for pinguy, not here as well, debian has pretty good support, however they may expect some basic skills, in general.
[19:48] <Jeeves_Moss> why am I getting a "do-release-upgrade" in the MOTD, yet when I run the command I'm told there is no release?
[19:48] <Darkness_of_Time> hello everybody!
[19:49] <compdoc> Jeeves_Moss, maybe motd isnt updated
[19:50] <Darkness_of_Time> a few hours ago I removed my sound card X-Fi (PCI) which was working perfectly on linux and I installed an EMU 0404 (PCI)
[19:50] <Darkness_of_Time> the problem is that now... I have no sound and I don't know how to install the drivers for the new sound card on my system
[19:50] <Darkness_of_Time> could you help me?
[19:50] <BluesKaj>  Jeeves_Moss , do you mean upgrade notification from the software center ?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Darkness_of_Time, did you set the new pci card as default in the bios?
[19:51] <cyber5am> can you recomend any good channels for noobs im interested in improving my commandline skills
[19:52] <BluesKaj> !cli | cyber5am
[19:52] <cyber5am> thanks
[19:53] <Darkness_of_Time> BluesKaj, this is the only sound card installed now. the old one was removed and the on board is already dissabled. and I don't think that I can set this EMU as the default sound card in the BIOS... I think that there is no such an option
[19:54] <maheanuu> I have a printer problem, Ubuntu shows me the printer but when I try to print, it gives me pending and that is all,  I have HPlips installed but still no print
[19:55] <BluesKaj> Darkness_of_Time, usually one can find the soundcards in the bios peripherals option
[19:56] <Darkness_of_Time> BluesKaj, ok I'll check it when I boot my system again.
[19:56] <Darkness_of_Time> thanks
[19:57] <BluesKaj> Darkness_of_Time, pastebin the output of cat /proc/asound/modules
[19:59] <sauraedron> Ampelbein : resiso: here's what i got after 15-20 mins working http://pastebin.com/g0tRcDU3
[19:59] <sauraedron> Ampelbein : resiso: Thank you very much :) good night
[20:00] <maheanuu> I am running Ubuntu 12.04.2 on a new Toshiba S875-S7356  and from what I am seeing, it isn't liking Ubuntu very well at all
[20:01] <maheanuu> I removed Wintoze Hate from it as soon as I received it.....  I want to keep using Ubuntu, but finding the setup a little difficult in certain areas
[20:01] <sauraedron> when i decrease the brightnes on my laptop (DELL N5010 15R) it hangs Ubuntu 12.04 :| any possible solutions?? Currently i decrease brightness using bash script
[20:02] <Darkness_of_Time> BluesKaj,  1 snd_hda_intel
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, maligning windows is not acceptable here.
[20:02] <pfifo> maheanuu, I have to run hp-setup to actually get hplip running
[20:02] <Darkness_of_Time> I think that this the audio output of my graphics card
[20:02] <maheanuu> Sorry, I didn't know, I apologise
[20:03] <maheanuu> I did that already and still the same
[20:03] <BluesKaj> ok Darkness_of_Time , lspci | grep -i audio
[20:03] <maheanuu> pfifo, the above is for you
[20:03] <pfifo> maheanuu, thats all I really got
[20:03] <BluesKaj> Darkness_of_Time, the hda-intel is most likely your motherboard soundchip
[20:04] <sauraedron> any one ??
[20:04] <maheanuu> That is the reason I am here, I called Toshiba and they told me that this laptop was designed with Windows in mind....   Makes me wonder???
[20:04] <Darkness_of_Time> BluesKaj, this one is disabled. this one is the HDMI output of my graphics card.
[20:05] <Darkness_of_Time> or at least, this is what my audio mixer says...
[20:05] <sasha__> O hai
[20:05] <Darkness_of_Time> is there any command that scans the new hardware?
[20:05] <pfifo> maheanuu, corprate world doesnt support linux stuff at all
[20:05] <hogilber> query melissaherrera
[20:05] <sasha__> I'm setting up Ubuntu on my mac, and I've allocated 15gb of disk in total. How much should I use of that for swap? I have 4gb of ram.
[20:06] <pfifo> sasha__, none of it?
[20:07] <sasha__> really? the guide on wiki says that I should make one though...
[20:07] <pfifo> but it doesnt say how big?
[20:07] <maheanuu_> Looks like the Post Office here is having a hiccup or three....  I am dropping off line and it is a long weekend so there will be no repair service till Monday
[20:08] <BluesKaj> darken, yes it it may be , but the motherboard soundchip sends it's audio thru the HDMI out
[20:08] <sasha__> nop
[20:09] <sasha__> but I read that swap partitions aren't really neccesary with more recent releases, is this true?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Darkness_of_Time, read my post above ^
[20:09] <Jeeves_Moss> sasha__, depends on how much RAM you have
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> sasha__, If you hibernate yes.
[20:09] <pfifo> sasha__, in order to support suspend/resume you need atleast enough swap to hold all your physical memory, most people recommend double your ram, i recommend none what so ever, I like my computers to reboot when they run out of memory
[20:09] <Darkness_of_Time> BluesKaj, so... the only way is to reboot and make these changes in the BIOS
[20:10] <Darkness_of_Time> I'll try it
[20:10] <Darkness_of_Time> thanks
[20:10] <sasha__> well, tbh, I don't know what I want. this is the first time I'm running ubuntu on my mac
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> suspend does not need a swap
[20:10] <sasha__> generally speaking, there isn't a 'hibernation' mode on mac
[20:11] <sasha__> it just figures out when it needs to go into deep sleep
[20:11] <pfifo> sasha__, linux doesnt do that
[20:11] <sasha__> yeah, I know
[20:12] <sasha__> so that's why I don't know if I'll need to hibernate :)
[20:12] <maheanuu_> I am planning on taking the laptop with me to PPT tomorrow as I am going in for Cataract surgery, and possibly I will run into one of the Lug people there, here there is no one other than I using Linux on a PC
[20:13] <maheanuu_> Trying to read this with any rapidity, is a pain in the neither regions at present....
[20:13] <pfifo> sasha__, try 8gb if yr system partition biggerou want a swap, but youll likely never use it, it could be hard to add a swap partition later on, but easy to remove it and make you
[20:14] <sasha____> okies
[20:14] <pfifo> sasha__, try 8gb if you want a swap, but youll likely never use it, it could be hard to add a swap partition later on, but easy to remove it and make your system partition bigger*
[20:14] <sasha____> yup, I saw, thanks :D
[20:15] <BluesKaj> sasha____, you can alwayscreate a swapfile if needed , buit if your RAM is greater thasn 4-6G , then you probly won't need swap of any kind
[20:15] <sasha____> i always max out my ram with 100+ tabs
[20:15] <pfifo> ^ no swap :D
[20:17] <pfifo> sasha___, I dont think the number of tabs you have open is going to have much impact on your memory in linux
[20:18] <sasha____> ok
[20:18] <sasha____> and how much impact does standby instead of hibernation have on battery life?
[20:19] <kostkon> sasha____, mine on standby is 1% for every hour
[20:19] <sasha____> ah that should be find
[20:19] <sasha____> macbook?
[20:19] <kostkon> sasha____, netbook
[20:19] <pfifo> i dont think hibernation uses any battery at all
[20:20] <sasha____> well i never sleep my computer for more than a couple of hours at most
[20:20] <sasha____> so that should be fine
[20:20] <kostkon> pfifo, it's disabled by default in ubuntu though
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> sasha____  hibernation saves the session to disk, suspend saves to ram
[20:20] <pfifo> kostkon, my system has a hibernate option when i choose to shutdown/
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> sasha____  suspend uses battery, hibernation doesnt
[20:21] <pfifo> IM GOING TO PRESS IT!
[20:21] <sasha____> yes, yes, ok
[20:21] <kostkon> pfifo, hmm that would be strange. is it vanilla ubuntu?
[20:21] <sasha____> i shall not be needing it then
[20:21] <pfifo> lol it said 'not authorized'
[20:21] <kostkon> sasha____, now about your 100+ tabs. consider using this http://getpocket.com/
[20:21] <kostkon> pfifo, interesting error msg
[20:22] <pfifo> kostkon, im using lubuntu atm
[20:22] <kostkon> pfifo, ah. that could explain why the option is available, but not working
[20:25] <pfifo> I allocated 4GB of swap for a non-functional hibernte button then?
[20:26] <reisio> not familiar with LXDE's power manager
[20:27] <kostkon> pfifo, check here http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/ it talks about creating a policykit file.
[20:29] <Pinkamen1_D> what would be the best filesystem for long term storage  - low amount of writes, mostly large sequential reads.
[20:30] <reisio> not ext2, not reiser
[20:30] <kostkon> Pinkamen1_D, xfs?
[20:31] <Pinkamen1_D> xfs..ill look into it
[20:31] <reisio> storing files is what most FSes are all about...
[20:33] <Bjond> reisio: https://github.com/philipl/pifs
[20:34] <reisio> heheh
[20:35] <reisio> that might be better than http://web.archive.org/web/20050514074112/http://lzip.sourceforge.net/
[20:36] <pfifo> kostkon, intersting, but this is my moms computer and I dont want her to have that option anyway
[20:36] <BluesKaj> or applepifs
[20:37] <goguda55> Okay guys... I've got a really strange problem. JACK audio server refuses to stop running. Anyone know how to force it to stop?
[20:37] <kostkon> pfifo, yeap, i agree.
[20:37] <hadifarnoud> I do a $ssh -D 8080 remote-host-ip on my mac to use my server as a proxy in order to bypass internet censorship in Iran. If i enter that command on my server itself, can I use it from any device? I guess I have to open the port with iptables too?
[20:38] <pfifo> hadifarnoud, nope
[20:38] <BluesKaj> goguda55, system monitor or ctrl+escape then kill the process
[20:39] <pfifo> hadifarnoud, you need a VPN to your server, and hook all your devices to the VPN
[20:40] <hadifarnoud> sorry I was disconnected pfifo. how can I do this then?
[20:40] <pfifo> hadifarnoud, you need a VPN
[20:41] <BluesKaj> hadifarnoud, checkout http://www.vpngate.net/en/
[20:42] <hadifarnoud> BluesKaj, pfifo: they blocked VPN all together. only ssh tunnel works. Squid proxy works but not on every site. they sniff packets or something and block it
[20:42] <hadifarnoud> I tried both L2TP and PPTP. followed a few tutorials on a fresh server each time. didn't work.
[20:43] <BluesKaj> hadifarnoud, they probly block openvpn , but there are other methods like l2tp/ipsec that work well
[20:43] <pfifo> hadifarnoud, you might be able to setup you mac as a NAT server, and route packets through your socks
[20:43] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: pptp isn't very secure
[20:44] <gordonjcp> hadifarnoud: you could try running it over an odd port
[20:44] <hadifarnoud> BluesKaj: they either managed to block l2tp or I'm following wrong tutorials. I tried a few now.
[20:45] <BluesKaj> hadifarnoud, including vpngate ?
[20:45] <hadifarnoud> pfifo: I was hoping if I could do that with my server
[20:45] <hadifarnoud> BluesKaj: didn't try that yet
[20:45] <pfifo> hadifarnoud, are you sure you using l2tp over ipsec?
[20:46] <hadifarnoud> pfifo: 100% sure
[20:46] <pfifo> hadifarnoud, you should be able to do what I said, not sure how to setup the masquerading to use socks though
[20:47] <superbmat> is it possible to have a linux distro such as a server distro without a windows manager display a remote desktop?
[20:47] <hadifarnoud> can someone try my vpn and see if it works? not sure my setup is wrong or I'm being blocked
[20:48] <pfifo> superbmat, youll need X on the server if you want to use remote desktop with it
[20:48] <LIP> superbmat: it would have to have a windows manager on it in order to serve that as a remote desktop, but it doesn't need to run an X instance on a local display
[20:49] <BluesKaj> hadifarnoud, try this app l2tp-ipsec-vpn , it's in the repos
[20:49] <hadifarnoud> BluesKaj: is it a client for L2TP?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:52] <superbmat> LIP do you mean to say that I could boot without X running but remotely connectand utilitze the installed X system? What if I wanted to run without X and then remote desktop on the same machine (localhost)
[20:55] <pfifo> superbmat, you mean use remote-desktop from the command line? Thats impossible
[20:55] <LIP> superbmat: when you utilize the installed X system, you would have to run it. Now it wouldn't show up on a display locally, but it still would be running
[20:58] <superbmat> thats what I was looking for pfifo thank you. and LIP thank you for your response, this is for instances of remote accessing things such as a headless server but maintaining a gui correct?
[20:58] <waterlite> hello all
[20:59] <pfifo> superbmat, well I shouldnt say its impossible... there might be some sort of curses based remote-desktop viewer, or maybe a non graphical one for the visual impaired that speaks everything to you
[21:00] <isasha> o hai
[21:00] <isasha> I just installed ubuntu on my macbook, and I'm having a bit of an issue...
[21:01] <gordonjcp> isasha: don't ask to ask
[21:01] <isasha> gordonjcp: I was coming to the point...
[21:01] <isasha> it says that I have to launch the rEFIt shell, which I cannot find
[21:01] <gordonjcp> isasha: don't use refit, use refind
[21:01] <isasha> is it at boot, in the OS? I can boot into mac os x, but not into ubuntu
[21:02] <gordonjcp> isasha: from OSX you download and run reFIND
[21:02] <isasha> ok
[21:02] <anonee> what are the default parameters that I should use when mounting an ext4 partition?
[21:02] <gordonjcp> isasha: that puts in a bootloader similar to GRUB that will let you load either OSX or Linux
[21:02] <gordonjcp> isasha: when you load Linux, it will chainload GRUB off your Linux partition
[21:02] <pfifo> anonee, you dont have to specify anything to get the default parameters, hence there called default
[21:03] <daftykins> anonee: do you mean within fstab or just the mount command?
[21:03] <gordonjcp> isasha: make sure you paypal the refind guy a donation, it's worth it
[21:03] <isasha> are you 'that guy' ^^ :P
[21:03] <gordonjcp> isasha: no
[21:03] <gordonjcp> isasha: just a very satisfied customer ;-)
[21:03] <isasha> :)
[21:03] <isasha> I guess I can make an exception in my no-paying-for-software-ever policy :)
[21:04] <gordonjcp> isasha: FWIW I am running 12.10 on a Macbook 3,1 dualbooting with OSX Lion
[21:04] <pfifo> freedom isnt fre
[21:04] <Bjond> so long as it's free software, you shouldn't feel bad paying
[21:04] <isasha> I'm using 4,2 gonna dual boot 13 and lion
[21:04] <gordonjcp> I should update from 12.10 but I'm lazy
[21:04] <isasha> does hw acceleration work with videos and stuff?
[21:04] <isasha> I read conflicting information online
[21:06] <dzoni> hello
[21:07] <dzoni> why evrytimes im trying to install ubuntu server i get message that GRUB isnt installed
[21:09] <anonee> daftykins fstab or Storage Device Manager, I got an error "encrypted signatures detected" when I tried to let some script or software write to the partition, when writing a file manually there is no problems though, could it be because I checked "Allow any user to mount the file system",  "Allow a user to mount and unmount the file system", and "The owner of the device can mount it"? I mean these options are not supposed to encrypt anything or am I wrong? the
[21:10] <anonee>  parameters added when I use these checkboxes are: users,user,owner
[21:11] <jellf> hi all
[21:12] <jellf> i have 2 PC
[21:12] <doomlord> bzr branch lp:ubuntu/raing/compiz << is this where to get the source for ubuntu/unity's versions of Scale and other compiz plugins
[21:12] <jellf> with Ubuntu 12.04
[21:12] <jellf> and each PC installed thunderbird
[21:12] <jellf> how i can sync both thunderbird
[21:12] <jellf> so they have same content of email
[21:12] <dzoni> why evrytimes im trying to install ubuntu server i get message that GRUB isnt installed
[21:12] <daftykins> anonee: so it wasn't ever an encrypted disk?
[21:13] <totuz> hello
[21:14] <daftykins> hi
[21:14] <totuz> I am trying to install Gnoppix
[21:15] <daftykins> totuz: ubuntu support only here, sorry
[21:16] <jellf> anyone can help me
[21:16] <totuz> ok
[21:16] <gordonjcp> !help | jellf
[21:16] <jellf> ubottu: ok sorry
[21:17] <hadifarnoud> how can I find what CPU I have? It's a VPS.
[21:17] <MrAlexandro> gordonjcp, if you still remember me, hi :)
[21:17] <gordonjcp> MrAlexandro: hi
[21:17] <gordonjcp> dzoni: are you getting the option to install GRUB?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> dzoni: during the install, make sure you install GRUB to the right disk!
[21:17] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: well you probably won't be shown the real one, have you cat'd /proc/cpuinfo ?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> MrAlexandro: vaguely, can't remember what you were having problems with...?
[21:18] <anonee> daftykins I created the volume using gparted, I didn't encrypt it or anything...
[21:18] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: That's good enough for me. I needed it for a package I want to install
[21:18] <MrAlexandro> gordonjcp me neither :D but i remember your nick, so you obviously helped me. think it could have been both bootlaoder and Apache … :)
[21:19] <daftykins> anonee: sure it's nothing in your script doing it? i take it you've tried making this script point elsewhere to confirm?
[21:20] <anonee> daftykins its not my script it's deluge, youtube-dl and so.... :(
[21:20] <gordonjcp> MrAlexandro: possibly, that rings a bell
[21:20] <daftykins> anonee: what does your fstab entry look like then?
[21:21] <PoolShark_> need some help getting a highpoint rocket 620 working in precise...
[21:21] <PoolShark_> 04:00.1 IDE interface: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE91A4 SATA 6Gb/s Controller (rev 11)
[21:22] <daftykins> PoolShark_: no driver so you're seeing no disks i take it?
[21:22] <PoolShark_> correct
[21:22] <PoolShark_> although highpoint says support is native in linux
[21:22] <PoolShark_> I imagine there is not not a module for it in the precise distro
[21:22] <PoolShark_> but it would be nice to confirm :)
[21:23] <Kyos> list
[21:24] <daftykins> PoolShark_: so your install is on a separate motherboard attached disk and is fully updated and upgraded?
[21:24] <PoolShark_> yep
[21:25] <daftykins> PoolShark_: has highpoint given a clue as to what module might provide it?
[21:25] <PoolShark_> nope!
[21:26] <PoolShark_> just says "Native Linux Support"
[21:26] <daftykins> PoolShark_: ok i got some info
[21:26] <daftykins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RocketRaid
[21:26] <daftykins> PoolShark_: take a look at that, install dkms then there's a .tar.gz with driver .debs in
[21:27] <daftykins> PoolShark_: if you're comfortable with what that involves go for it, otherwise let me know and i can assist
[21:27] <PoolShark_> this isn't a RocketRaid
[21:27] <PoolShark_> it's a Rocket
[21:27] <daftykins> i see '620' though
[21:27] <daftykins> probably same thing
[21:27] <PoolShark_> the Rocket 620 and RocketRaid 620 are different products
[21:27] <daftykins> oh right
[21:27] <PoolShark_> Rocket 620 is just an HBA with no RAID functionality and a different SATA controller
[21:28] <PoolShark_> the RocketRaid620 is an 88SE9123 or 9128 depending on vintage with native fakeraid functionality
[21:28] <BlackDalek> Does anyone here know how to get qjoypad to work in ubuntu 13.04?
[21:28] <daftykins> PoolShark_: can you pastebin the relevant entry from lspci -vv ?
[21:29] <PoolShark_> http://pastebin.com/4KpzJERm
[21:30] <PoolShark_> ahh
[21:30] <PoolShark_> pata_marvell!
[21:31] <PoolShark_> so I modprobed it and it loaded
[21:31] <PoolShark_> but still no disks
[21:32] <daftykins> PoolShark_: worth a reboot perhaps
[21:32] <BlackDalek> I am trying to install qjoypad but make fails every time. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5997514/ what do I need to do to fix this?
[21:32] <daftykins> PoolShark_: fdisk -l is what you're checking for disks with?
[21:33] <PoolShark_> yeah fdisk -l and blkid both return nothing
[21:33] <BluesKaj> PoolShark_, what type of HDDs are you connecting to the adapter ,IDE / ATA ?
[21:34] <daftykins> i'm confused at the PATA talk when its' output refers to SATA 6Gb
[21:34] <PoolShark_> it's an external port multiplier chassis with 4 WD RE3 500GB drives in it
[21:34] <PoolShark_> all sata
[21:34] <daftykins> aww babies ;)
[21:36] <BluesKaj> PoolShark_, ok , so it's an expansion
[21:36] <PoolShark_> yeah
[21:36] <PoolShark_> Sans Digital TR4M+
[21:36] <PoolShark_> or something
[21:36] <SteveBell> hi all. is there a combatibility table for ubuntu 13 and netbooks? found several wikis but some for ubuntu 9 others very chaotic.
[21:37] <daftykins> SteveBell: it seems, given netbook owners coming in of late, #1 point is do you have enough storage XD
[21:37] <DigitalIceCream> hello
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> !hardware | SteveBell start here
[21:37] <captainfixerpc14> Could someone possibly assist in overcoming a type please in terminal ? I did this -sudo chown -R notroot:notroot /*    meant to do current folder not drive
[21:37] <BlackDalek> I need help with installing qjoypad in ubuntu.... anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5997514/
[21:37] <captainfixerpc14> out put is bad - :-(  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5997353/
[21:37] <PoolShark_> whoops
[21:38] <captainfixerpc14> indeed
[21:38] <zafrix> buenas
[21:38] <DigitalIceCream> !list
[21:38] <PoolShark_> you tried just chowning it back?
[21:38] <PoolShark_> root should be able to do that
[21:38] <OerHeks> captainfixerpc14, backup your home and reinstall
[21:38] <PoolShark_> unless it just broke everything
[21:39] <PoolShark_> worse comes to worst boot a live CD and mount the partition and chown it back
[21:39] <captainfixerpc14> OerHeks, brand new install - almost done and ready to return - argggg
[21:39] <captainfixerpc14> thats what I was hoping to do
[21:39] <PoolShark_> ok gotta make dinner
[21:39] <PoolShark_> thanks for your help
[21:39] <ttom> did anyone ever try booting ubuntu live-cd from pxe and having the persistent storage?
[21:39] <cazandobits> hi
[21:40] <SteveBell> thanks MonkeyDust & daftykins but I read that this site will be discontinued on 15th sept. https://friendly.ubuntu.com/
[21:40] <cazandobits> anyone knows how I can add items to gnome-control-center
[21:41] <SteveBell> what alternatives are there? this seems to be a weak point in ubuntu spreading if this question remains unanswered
[21:42] <OerHeks> cazandobits, maybe this page is your answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/108060/is-it-possible-to-add-custom-items-to-system-settings-window
[21:42] <cazandobits> OerHeks, I already read it
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  what's a weakness? altrenatives to what?
[21:43] <SteveBell> weakness = if people don't know previous to install if ubuntu will run on their hardware. alternatives to "friendly ubuntu" page
[21:44] <BlackDalek> I need help with installing qjoypad in ubuntu.... anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5997514/
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  the !hardware list is more exhaustive, i guess, i had never seen that "friendly" page before
[21:46] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust: well there's the certified program, where mark is trying to make some money and then there's tons of discontinued programms. so correct me if I'm wrong but I can't find a current and maintained answer to my question
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  as this is support only, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:47] <SteveBell> hm isn't asking if ubuntu runs on certain hardware support related?
[21:47] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get a ubuntu web server set up... Where does ubuntu hide httpd.conf?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  yes, but we have the !hardware list for that
[21:48] <magesing> Do I write a fresh one and stick it in /etc?
[21:48] <linuxliam> is preload proven to help system performance?
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> linuxliam  it's nice
[21:48] <SteveBell> could you post a link? I can't seem to find that
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> linuxliam  in a terminal, type           apt-cache show preload    , see what it says
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  ubottu just showed you, scroll down on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[21:50] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust: I'm on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks but the netbook in question is not listed
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  any reason why you think it shouldnt work?
[21:52] <ttom> is there a way to have persistent storage when booting live-cd from network (pxe)
[21:53] <SteveBell> yes, I tried installing ubuntu 13.04 a couple of month ago and had very slow boot times (8mins) as the regular boot. fell back to ubuntu 12.10 with boot times around 1;30-2mins. maybe the problem has already addressed but since I can't find any info on hardware compatibility about this netbook I wonder if it would be a good idea to give 13 another try. I really like the changes in ubuntu from 12 to 13
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  a couple of months, you say. maybe it was before the official release? when it was unstable?
[21:54] <anonee> daftykins: it's working now, it's   /dev/sdc1   /mount/mydrive   ext4   defaults   0   0
[21:54] <anonee> however, there was user,users,owner instead of defaults when it wasn't working, the question is: how on earth could the options ("Allow any user to mount the file system",  "Allow a user to mount and unmount the file system", and "The owner of the device can mount it") prevent an application from writting on the file system since this application is run as my user account?!
[21:54] <SteveBell> no it was officially released at that point
[21:54] <daftykins> anonee: *shrug* :)
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  then try and see what it does now
[21:55] <SteveBell> MonkeyDust: so maybe I should wait for 2014 for 13.10 and LTS?
[21:55] <anonee> daftykins lol
[21:55] <Dr_willis> anonee,  even if the user mounts the ext2/3/4 - the permissions On the files on the fileysstem could prevent the user from accessing the files.
[21:55] <ttom> SteveBell: i would advice using lubuntu on slower HW
[21:56] <Dr_willis> anonee,  just because the user mounts the ext4  - dosent make everything on th eext4 owned by them
[21:56] <SteveBell> ttom ok will have a look
[21:57] <ttom> is there a way to increase the verbosity of casper through boot params?
[21:58] <anonee> Dr_willis, daftykins, you know what? I think the real question is: what are the defaults? I mean since when I replaced "users, user, owner" by "defaults" everything worked as it should, then what I may wanna know is "what are these defaults" and this I will have to read more about debian in order to know more about. agree?
[21:59] <Sta1ker> hello, what would be the best option to run a script on system startup? my scenario goes like this i have made an encrypted volume using trucrypt and opensc i would like to write a script the makes sure that the card is in the reader and everytime i take it out or in it would auto mount or dismount. what would be the best option, running a system v script or making a script when lightdm logs in? is there lightdmrc?
[21:59] <holstein> anonee: re: your question about latency.. i wouldnt bother with the lowlatency kernel, unless you are interested in lowering your latency
[22:02] <anonee> holstein thank you very much for remembering, and it's now set to 256 milliseconds and I'm happy, but you know what I should have used linux a few years ago before ASIO4ALL for windows was written, that was when I was struggling with midi :D
[22:02] <Dr_willis> anonee,  the defaults for a ext2/3/4 would be the permissiopns on the filesystem. I do NOT think any of those options would override the permissions/ownership of the files on the filesystem
[22:03] <Dr_willis> anonee,  you are using a USB flash drive with ext4 as a removeable drive going from one pc to another? or what exactly? i missed theoriginal  question
[22:04] <amireldor> is there a way to install let's say `kubuntu-desktop` and later on removing it completly, returning to the original state with only-Unity (or LXDE in my case) installed?
[22:05] <holstein> amireldor: yes
[22:05] <Dr_willis> amireldor,  its possible.. but not as easially done. since kuuntu-desktopis a meta package.
[22:05] <doomlord> anyone here know how to build compiz plugins..
[22:05] <Dr_willis> amireldor,  i just leave allthe *-desktops installed. ;)
[22:07] <amireldor> holstein, can you elaborate please?
[22:07] <amireldor> holstein, is there some way like `checkinstall` on make's?
[22:08] <Dr_willis> amireldor,    Installing kubuntu-desktop installs the meta package that pulls in dozens+ of other packages.. removeing them can be a pain. ;)  but possible
[22:08] <holstein> !purexfce
[22:08] <holstein> amireldor: ^^ for example..
[22:08] <amireldor> holstein, hmm ok, will read
[22:08] <anonee> Dr_willis ofcourse they're the permissions :) no it's not a USB it's a hard disk.. btw when I first formatted the volume everything seemed to fail until i used gparted, then  somebody helped me to chown that mount point dir from root to me, I left the drive for a couple of days just because I needed to add a dot in the end of the chown command,
[22:09] <amireldor> Dr_willis, yeah I know it's a metapackage, thanks for the help
[22:09] <holstein> amireldor: you can always manually keep track of what is being installed, and see that the pacakges are removed
[22:10] <Dr_willis> anonee,  dont forget you have to chown/chmod after its mounted. :)  seen a few people get confused about that and try to chown the mountpoint beofr the fs was mounted
[22:10] <amireldor> holstein, there's probably a way to get a list of packages in a meta-package
[22:11] <holstein> amireldor: i run 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop', then i copy what is being installed to a text file.. i could name that "thingsTOremoveLATER.txt"
[22:13] <Bjond> holstein: cat /var/log/apt/history.log
[22:14] <holstein> Bjond: you want me to direct that to amireldor ? i save the text file.. otherwise, go ahead and share that with the person asking the question.. thanks!
[22:15] <kevlar555> Hi folks!
[22:16] <vadi> Is it possible to pipe output to something that will highlight certain words for me? I don't want to use grep as that will eliminate other text.
[22:18] <Dr_willis> vadi,  check out 'colortail'
[22:18] <vadi> Appreciated.
[22:18] <Slart> vadi: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7393906/highlight-text-similar-to-grep-but-dont-filter-out-text   lots of good suggestions there
[22:18] <Dr_willis> vadi,  theres also several similer tools.. they rely on regular expressions to colorize stuff
[22:19] <vadi>  ty!
[22:20] <vadi> Weird why they suggest grep, it wipes all lines it doesn't match on.
[22:21] <Slart> Dr_willis: colortail looks nice.. never heard of it before
[22:21] <Slart> vadi: I think they either make grep match all lines (but just a small part) or make grep print out lines before and after the match
[22:23] <Dr_willis> i imagine with regular expressons you could make grep match all lines.. AND also do somthing to lines that match a differnt regular expression
[22:24] <Sta1ker> hello, what would be the best option to run a script on system startup? my scenario goes like this i have made an encrypted volume using trucrypt and opensc i would like to write a script the makes sure that the card is in the reader and everytime i take it out or in it would auto mount or dismount. what would be the best option, running a system v script or making a script when lightdm logs in? is there lightdmrc?
[22:24] <vadi> That's more work than I'd like to do... and colortail doesn't work with a command line argument, requires a .conf file beforehand. I do wish there was a tool that let me just colorize something in the output.
[22:24] <Dr_willis> !find ack
[22:25] <Dr_willis> Sta1ker,  /etc/rc.local runs near the end of the boot sequence, it runs even if lightdm dosent start up
[22:25] <linuxliam> how would i set time to 12 hour format from terminal ?
[22:26] <PoolShark_> back
[22:26] <PoolShark_> so anyway
[22:26] <Dr_willis> while read line ; do (echo $line | grep PATTERN) || echo $line  ; done < inputfile
[22:26] <Dr_willis>                seems easy vadi
[22:26] <Sta1ker> Dr_willis: is it part of init or sysv?
[22:26] <Dr_willis> linuxliam,  set it where?
[22:27] <Dr_willis> Sta1ker,  /etc/rc.local  is ran as part of the default init process.   which is UPSTART
[22:27] <Dr_willis> Sta1ker,  sysv on ubuntu is actually Upstart  in the background just sort of emulateing sysv
[22:27] <Dr_willis> !upstart
[22:28] <linuxliam> Dr_willis: the time format on a default ubuntu is 24 hours not 12 i was wondering if there is a way to set it to 12 hour using the terminal
[22:28] <Dr_willis> time default where exactly? You mean the panel clock somewhere? I dont have ubuntu sitting here in front of me
[22:28] <Sta1ker> Dr_willis: init is the main one, upstart is the second init process that supports multithreading m i right?
[22:29] <Dr_willis> Sta1ker,  upsart replaces sysv.   so however they all go together. :) i rarely need to mess with the details
[22:29] <Sta1ker> Dr_willis: thx
[22:29] <linuxliam> Dr_willis: my apologise yes i do mean the panel clock
[22:30] <dougl> anyone use digikam?
[22:30] <Dr_willis> linuxliam,  there may be some gconf or dconf settings to change it. those can be changed via the command line
[22:30] <breaker313> Hi .* After Upgrading to 13.04 - having trouble with Unity and solved it - I can't configure alternative wallpapers ... any ideas?
[22:30] <dougl> question for an experienced digikam user... when viewing the map with thumnail representing group of pics how do you view or select that group?
[22:30] <Dr_willis> breaker313,  test with a newly made user. see if they have the same issue.
[22:35] <breaker313> Dr_willis Yes, having the same issue, but curious: the loginscreen has the chosen wallpaper ...
[22:39] <Dr_willis> breaker313,  so where is the wallpaper not being used at?
[22:40] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. back in about an hr or 2..
[22:49] <MisterT> hello
[22:51] <daftykins> hi
[22:52] <MisterT> hi daftykins
[22:53] <daftykins> got a question or just arrived for the evening?
[22:53] <lucian> who wanna talk me create private chat with me
[22:55] <MisterT> Actually I was wondering if anyone had an expierce installing SpotWeb, I've been trying to install through the Software Center and it just hangs there after a while.
[22:57] <daftykins> MisterT: have you tried installing it via the command line to watch what it does?
[22:58] <MisterT> would that be something like sudo aptget -instal spoweb? sorry I'm kinda new to this
[23:05] <aquarat> is there any way of reseting a machine from the bash terminal, remotely via ssh if every command you issue returns "bus error" ?
[23:06] <reisio> I s'pose you'd have to try all ways to be sure :p
[23:06] <Random832> aquarat: any way of doing so would probably involve executing a command
[23:06] <FaxinBerlin> Bot Error: 2938 Sudo /attempt .run script-fail
[23:07] <Random832> aquarat: you could try /sbin/reboot -f, but no guarantees... everything returning "bus error" probably means some kind of hardware problem anyway
[23:07] <aquarat> yes
[23:07] <aquarat> I tried /sbin/shutdown -r now
[23:07] <aquarat> but that also returns bus error
[23:07] <FaxinBerlin> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cautionary.png < #ubuntu problems.
[23:07] <aquarat> I'm hoping there's a built in reset command in bash?
[23:07] <Random832> reboot (and halt) -f bypass the normal shutdown process
[23:08]  * aquarat tries
[23:08] <aquarat> ... I also can't log back into the machine
[23:08] <Random832> but no guarantees - you may have to do a hard reboot... you may have to call your hosting company, if you don't have physical access
[23:08] <aquarat> via ssh
[23:08] <aquarat> it gives a key exchange error
[23:08] <Random832> of course you can't, i'm not sure why you expected to be able to
[23:08] <Random832> i thought you meant you already had a session open from before
[23:08] <aquarat> well yes
[23:08] <aquarat> I do
[23:08] <aquarat> I have a session open
[23:08] <aquarat> so I either fix it now
[23:08] <aquarat> or don't :P
[23:09] <FloodBot1> aquarat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Random832> anyway, try reboot -f, or do a hard reset, those are your options
[23:09] <Random832> i'll bet it doesn't come back up afterward either way
[23:09] <aquarat> no such file or directory bus error
[23:10] <aquarat> I should have set up a watchdog :(
[23:10] <Random832> is this a server you physically control, or is it at a hosting company?
[23:10] <PocketDog> e-uac regularly crashes my display with 'segmentation fault'. Not even running as root. Annoying
[23:10] <aquarat> hosting company
[23:10] <Random832> call them - it's probably a hardware problem anyway, you can have them try a hard reboot, but i'll bet it doesn't come back up
[23:11] <aquarat> cool
[23:11] <aquarat> thanks for your help :)
[23:11] <Random832> anyway, if you can't run shutdown or reboot, you're out of options, unless you have something like an already-running interactive python or something
[23:12] <aquarat> mmm
[23:12] <Random832> there's nothing built in to bash
[23:12] <aquarat> unlike busybox
[23:13] <PoolShark_> hrm... still can't get this marvell sata controller working
[23:14] <aquarat> "echo" is built in
[23:14] <aquarat> :D
[23:14]  * aquarat tries echoing to proc
[23:14] <aquarat> or dev
[23:14] <brafa81> español?
[23:14] <aquarat> lolol, echo to /dev/null works :D
[23:14] <PoolShark_> un poco
[23:14] <brafa81> spanis ?
[23:14] <brafa81> jajajj ok
[23:15] <brafa81> donde puedo conectarme que sea en español ?
[23:15] <phaedra> !es | brafa81
[23:15] <aquarat> Random832, is there any way you can think of of resetting an Ubuntu machine by echoing something to a /dev or /proc, etc. file ?
[23:16] <aquarat> like echo "1" >> /dev/reboot
[23:16] <brafa81> ok gracias
[23:18] <FaxinBerlin> Hi I deleted my C:// I think, how do I fix problem? My friend helped me delete my C:// to speed up computer.
[23:19] <dr_willis> aquarat:  cant say ive ever seen that done.. dosent mean theres not ;0 just never needed to do it that way
[23:19] <dr_willis> FaxinBerlin:  ask in #windows perhaps
[23:19] <FaxinBerlin> My computer wont work
[23:19] <FaxinBerlin> i use ubuntu
[23:19] <dr_willis> FaxinBerlin:  ubuntu dosent use c:\
[23:19] <FaxinBerlin> i renamed it
[23:19] <FaxinBerlin> looks nicer
[23:20] <aquarat> thanks dr_willis
[23:20] <aquarat> there must be a way
[23:20] <dr_willis> aquarat:  i do seem to recall some heartbeat services that could reboot a machine automatically in some cases
[23:20] <dr_willis> aquarat:  what are you trying to do exactly and why?
[23:21] <Random832> aquarat: hang on
[23:21] <aquarat> I have a remote machine, which I'm connected to via ssh
[23:21] <aquarat> it started giving a "bus error" output to commands in bash
[23:21] <aquarat> now I can't log in from other ssh clients
[23:21] <aquarat> and I can't run anything other than "echo"
[23:21] <dr_willis> you are seeing dmesg/syslog messages in your ssh session?
[23:21] <aquarat> no
[23:22] <aquarat> dmesg is one of the many commands that results in "command not found\nbus error"
[23:22] <aquarat> where \n is printed as new line
[23:22] <Random832> aquarat: try kill -9 1 (NOTE to everyone else: this is normally a highly dangerous command, and is not normally useful outside of aquarat's situation - don't try this at home)
[23:22] <dr_willis> echo is  a bash builtin,   so its possible theres been some very nasty hard disk or other hardware faliure
[23:23] <aquarat> that's quite smart Random832
[23:23] <dr_willis> there may  be other ;builtins' you can run.. but  the system might not even comeback  up if you reboot it
[23:23] <Random832> kill is a bash builtin
[23:23] <aquarat> ah
[23:23] <aquarat> session terminated
[23:23]  * aquarat waits
[23:23] <Random832> good luck
[23:23] <aquarat> awesome
[23:23] <dr_willis> exTerminated! ;)  Like a Dalak! ;P
[23:23] <aquarat> I figured there must be some built in commands
[23:23] <Random832> i bet it won't come up, though, in which case call your hosting company
[23:23] <aquarat> lolol @ dalek
[23:23] <aquarat> egggs
[23:23] <FloodBot1> aquarat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <dr_willis> this is a Virtual machine> or a real physical server?
[23:24] <aquarat> physical server
[23:25] <Random832> the issue he described sounds like a hardware fault, probably in memory (or in some part of the motherboard relevant to accessing memory)
[23:25] <dr_willis> yep. dosent sound good..
[23:25] <aquarat> it appears that killing 1 (init?) has kicked me off but not reset the machine
[23:25] <aquarat> but that's okay
[23:25] <aquarat> I'll e-mail the hosting company and ask them to reset
[23:26] <aquarat> should be interesting to see if it does come up
[23:27] <aquarat> thanks for your help :)
[23:27] <Random832> yes, 1 is init
[23:27] <Random832> killing it causes a kernel panic, if i remember correctly
[23:27] <aquarat> I must admit I've never seen the bus error message before
[23:28] <dr_willis> the mother-in-law of all processes
[23:28] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:28] <aquarat> haha
[23:28] <dr_willis> Me either.. never seen the bus stuff
[23:28] <aquarat> the machine still responds to network comms
[23:28] <Random832> i've never seen it in an intel
[23:28] <aquarat> it just doesn't allow ssh connections
[23:28] <aquarat> it's not an intel ;)
[23:28] <Random832> you get it on sparc solaris for unaligned memory access
[23:28] <Random832> and on some other UNIXes for stuff that would be a segmentation fault on linux
[23:29] <aquarat> it's an arm machine
[23:29] <Random832> ah
[23:29] <dr_willis> an arm server? thats a little unusual
[23:29] <aquarat> well it's used for simple stuff
[23:29] <dr_willis> its not a raspberry-pi on a big fat fiber line? ;)
[23:30] <aquarat> I'm sure this isn't the best way of doing things but I have a whole bunch of other machines creating reverse ssh tunnels into it
[23:30] <aquarat> haha
[23:30] <aquarat> it's an O-droid x
[23:30] <aquarat> or odroid-x
[23:30] <Random832> dr_willis: no, a repurposed surface RT
[23:30] <aquarat> quad core 1.4GHz machine
[23:30] <dr_willis> getting to be a lot of neat little arm-mini pcs out there.
[23:30] <aquarat> yes...
[23:30] <aquarat> I've just ordered the odroid-xu
[23:31] <aquarat> that's one of the new arm BIG.little cpus
[23:31] <aquarat> which is effectively an 8-core processor
[23:31] <Random832> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php - looks like a pi-like-object to me
[23:31] <aquarat> but it switches between low power cores and high power cores depending on work load
[23:31] <aquarat> it's very similar to the pi, just with a lot more memory and with a lot more processing power
[23:32] <aquarat> ...but obviously more costly
[23:32] <Random832> i was thinking of getting a pi to replace my aging "home server" computer
[23:32] <dr_willis> hmm that odroid-xu looks like a Raspberry-pi on steroids.  ;)
[23:32] <Random832> how much does this thing cost
[23:32] <aquarat> oh
[23:32] <aquarat> I love pis
[23:32] <aquarat> well
[23:32] <dr_willis> Pi $35 odroid xu = $140 from what i just saw
[23:32] <aquarat> arm sbcs in general... there's awesome
[23:33] <aquarat> there's also olimex...
[23:33] <aquarat> it all depends on what you're trying to achieve
[23:33] <dr_willis> Better Mame Arcade  Machine! ;)
[23:33] <aquarat> my home alarm system is driven by an olimex machine :P
[23:34] <aquarat> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/iMX233/
[23:34] <dr_willis> Been using Plex on Ubuntu - serveing videos to my Pi-Plex  raspberry pis. :)
[23:34] <Random832> [i run mostly IRC and various random command line stuff off a 1GHZ Athlon64 X2
[23:34] <dr_willis> makes for a nice setup once you fnd a decent remote for the pis
[23:34] <linuxliam> i remeber how to edit gconf strings via the terminal but i don’t remember the layout if the command
[23:34] <aquarat> lol Random832
[23:34] <Random832> and file serving / backups
[23:34] <Random832> with a massive external hard drive
[23:35] <Random832> well my primary computer is a laptop, which isn't conducive to either A) always-on things like IRC or B) attaching an external hard drive to
[23:35] <aquarat> I use a combination of different arm sbcs for different tasks... I use a Solidrun Cubox as a file server, it runs Ubuntu and mdadm on an a set of esata drives. It has a gbit ethernet link, so it's great for file serving
[23:36] <dr_willis> its always nice when you can replace a huge old desktop box with a little Pi. ;)
[23:36] <aquarat> hehe
[23:36] <Random832> yeah it's basically an old desktop my parents were throwing away
[23:36] <dr_willis> i just have to get the wife trained to use Plex and XBMC now on the tvs so she can dump her other set top boxs
[23:36] <Random832> set up headless next to the TV (it can't output video to the TV for some reason even though the TV has vga-in)
[23:37] <aquarat> I feel a bit sad when I can't find a use for old desktop PCs... there was a time in my life when there was always place for an old machine
[23:37] <dr_willis> been cleaning out ones all weekend here from the garrage.
[23:37] <dr_willis> set up MAME for the grandkids on them. is about all i have done lately
[23:37] <daftykins> aquarat: i know that pain :(
[23:37] <dr_willis> bbl
[23:38] <aquarat> well I'm glad I'm not alone :P
[23:38] <Random832> do any of these pi-alikes have wi-fi?
[23:38] <aquarat> er
[23:38] <aquarat> the olimex boards do
[23:38] <Random832> i'd love to shove it in a corner and not have it take up an ethernet outlet
[23:38] <aquarat> not all of them, but the A13 in particular does, it has 1 GHz dual core arm cpu on it
[23:38] <aquarat> with vga output and a bucketload of gpios
[23:39] <aquarat> I have some of my pis running on the wifi network using small wifi usb dongles... they work reliably, provided they're close to the access Point
[23:39] <Random832> since my ATT router only has four ethernet ports - i've been making excuses not to set up the magic wifi box that the secondary [wireless, but doesn't work off of home wifi] DVR needs
[23:39] <aquarat> where close is < 20 meters
[23:40] <aquarat> I've cabled my home... I have gigabit ethernet everywhere :P
[23:40] <aquarat> I have 4gbit ethernet linking my desktop (upstairs) to my server (downstairs)
[23:40] <aquarat> speed :(
[23:40] <lauratika> everytime i start ubuntu or login after lock screen resolution changes and adds a black strip on top of the screen or the bottom, then i have to set manually another resolution to have the screen work again, any iadea what can be the issue?
[23:41] <holstein> lauratika: graphics driver support... an xorg.conf that is not "right"...
[23:43] <lauratika> holstein: how can i change this?
[23:43] <holstein> lauratika: you would need to test, to confirm what needs to be changed. and there is always an option that that is as good as it gets
[23:44] <lauratika> so where i start?
[23:44] <holstein> lauratika: ?
[23:45] <lauratika> holstein: yeah, what can i do then?
[23:45] <holstein> lauratika: do you have an xorg.conf? if not, then that is not the problem.. are the drivers available for you hardware?,, if so, try them
[23:46] <cazandobits> hi
[23:46] <cazandobits> How I can remove all tool for universal acess (orca...)
[23:47] <cazandobits> ¿?
[23:47] <lauratika> where should xorg.conf should be?
[23:47] <ZIPY> !xorg
[23:48] <holstein> cazandobits: i would use a package manager to remove packages.. whatever i am comfortable with
[23:48] <ZIPY> lauratika: !xorgconf
[23:49] <ZIPY> !xorgconf | lauratika
[23:56] <cazandobits> I want to delete ubuntu software center
[23:56] <kostkon> cazandobits, why??
[23:56] <cazandobits> I preffer synaptic and gdebi
[23:57] <daftykins> cazandobits: no point
[23:57] <cazandobits> why?
[23:58] <cazandobits> daftykins, why?
[23:58] <PocketDog> the software centre is hopeless. It takes forever to do anything
[23:58] <daftykins> cazandobits: it's not going to be large, taking up space...