| Hyuri | sorry, had to switch PC | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| voland | exit | 03:50 |
| Th3-Bl4ck-Sh4rk | Bonjour ! | 05:44 |
| munthe | "Linux for creative humans" - what does that mean? Linux is the kernel. Ubuntu is the OS. Built on GNU/Linux. | 10:31 |
| munthe | No GNU - no libraries that make up an operating system. | 10:33 |
| munthe | I vote for "GNU/Linux for creative humans". | 10:33 |
| Hyuri | munthe: i second | 10:55 |
| munthe | Is there a way to remove that boot screen? | 10:57 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, no. | 10:58 |
| munthe | I use Ubuntu Studio with my students and they get confused after I explai GNU/Linux to them. | 10:58 |
| smartboyhw | If you remove it, you can't boot. | 10:58 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, and really, GNU/Linux will file suits at us if we call it GNU/Linux | 10:58 |
| munthe | Can I replace it? | 10:58 |
| smartboyhw | Since for GNU, they need a completely free OS | 10:58 |
| smartboyhw | Ubuntu isn't one | 10:58 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, I think so... | 10:58 |
| munthe | No, Stallman has called for Canonical to call Ubuntu GNU/Linux many times. | 10:59 |
| munthe | It's not logical to name it Linux since Linux is the kernel and GNU libraries is what makes the OS. | 11:00 |
| Hyuri | yes, the only thing is that you won't be able to get a page on FSF showing ubuntu studio as completely free software | 11:01 |
| Hyuri | other than that, they will be very happy | 11:01 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, Hyuri OK。。。 | 11:01 |
| smartboyhw | I will talk to our project lead on this | 11:01 |
| smartboyhw | And our main dev guy | 11:01 |
| Hyuri | appreciated | 11:02 |
| Hyuri | =) | 11:03 |
| smartboyhw | Hyuri, it would be greatly appreciated if you report a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+filebug for this | 11:06 |
| Hyuri | ok | 11:07 |
| Hyuri | munthe: you are good in writing in english? | 11:07 |
| munthe | Thanks! It is a GNU/Linux based OS with non-free components. | 11:07 |
| Hyuri | i am not a native | 11:08 |
| munthe | Yes. I'm ok writing english. :) | 11:08 |
| munthe | Me neither. I'm Swedish. | 11:08 |
| Hyuri | haha | 11:08 |
| Hyuri | i think i am not good at writing formal things in english, could munthe do that? | 11:11 |
| smartboyhw | Hyuri, munthe if you can't do it then I will do it myself. | 11:13 |
| munthe | I can write it in a few hours. | 11:13 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, Hyuri then I will do it:) | 11:13 |
| Hyuri | smartboyhw: ok, sorry =/ | 11:14 |
| munthe | thanks smartboyfw | 11:14 |
| Hyuri | and thanks... | 11:14 |
| xequence | munthe: Not everyone knows what GNU is. Everyone understands what you mean, when you call an OS Linux. Besides, only one of the alternatives look good as a slogan | 11:17 |
| munthe | Everyone should know what GNU is since it is the basic set that makes up Free software that enables Ubuntu Studio. :) | 11:19 |
| xequence | they will if they read about what Ubuntu Studio is | 11:19 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, unfortunately, they DON'T. | 11:20 |
| munthe | The Free Software Foundation has earned their respect from us - I think. | 11:20 |
| xequence | http://ubuntustudio.org/about-ubuntustudio/ | 11:20 |
| xequence | Linux, while not correctly used, is often regarded as the name for these types of OSs. So, it's quite correct to use that word in simple language | 11:21 |
| xequence | so, to repeat myself "Not everyone knows what GNU is. Everyone understands what you mean, when you call an OS Linux. Besides, only one of the alternatives look good as a slogan | 11:22 |
| munthe | Yes I know. And it's wrong. The GNU/Linux community have no reason to think in market hype terms. | 11:22 |
| munthe | If people have no clue we have to tech them. | 11:23 |
| xequence | if someone wants to know more, it's not hard to find out | 11:23 |
| munthe | Knowledge is power. | 11:23 |
| Hyuri | yes... the simple minded are hard to deal | 11:23 |
| Hyuri | i think we need to correct ourselves and teach them too. but, they don't even know where the water they drink comes from... | 11:24 |
| Hyuri | so, is better to have them using and supporting the "good causes" like free software even if they don't know nothing what is it than they using the other side | 11:25 |
| Hyuri | IMO | 11:25 |
| Hyuri | do you understand what i mean? | 11:25 |
| Hyuri | [offtopic: how do i call people like "hey guys" but universally? other day i said "hey guys" in a conversaion that had a girl and she got angry] | 11:27 |
| Hyuri | conversation* | 11:38 |
| munthe | Agree, Hyuri | 11:43 |
| munthe | It's actually a much bigger job to replace the GNU libraries in Ubuntu Studio than to replace the kernel. | 11:44 |
| munthe | Hurd, BSD... | 11:44 |
| munthe | That's why Android is such a major undertaking - removing the GNU stuff | 11:45 |
| Hyuri | interesting... didin't know about the Android side | 11:47 |
| munthe | You could in theory replace the BSD kernel in OS X with the Linux kernel. Does that make OS X "Linux for creative humans"? | 11:48 |
| munthe | Android is Googles libraries on top of the Linux kernel | 11:49 |
| Hyuri | GoogleLibs/Linux :) | 11:49 |
| munthe | Mostly under the GPL. That's why Stallman actually endorses a free version of Android called Replicant. | 11:49 |
| smartboyhw | munthe, Hyuri so what is xequence's decision? | 11:51 |
| munthe | I suspect that Ubuntu Studio doesn't have persmission to use "Linux". It's a trademark. | 11:51 |
| munthe | But Linux has said he will never protect his rights to the TM. | 11:52 |
| Hyuri | i suspect he will keep only "Linux" | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | munthe: 1. The person is Linus Torvalds, not Linux and 2. "Linux" is at least a correct and easier-understanding word for our slogan. | 11:53 |
| Hyuri | because of the market | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | Hyuri: munthe: As an Ubuntu Studio team member, I will respect upon and follow our project leader (xequence)'s decision. | 11:54 |
| Hyuri | * | 11:54 |
| Hyuri | marketing* | 11:54 |
| Hyuri | ok, i think the problem is deeper | 11:55 |
| munthe | Linus owns the Linux TM personally. | 11:56 |
| munthe | And I know that Shuttleworth doesn't want to associate with GNU and the FSF - which is unfortunate. "Standing on the sholders of giants" | 11:56 |
| smartboyhw | munthe: If we can't use it, everyone will be having trouble describing their OS, not just us | 11:57 |
| Hyuri | after people looking at "Ubuntu. Linux for human beings", they will probably understand instantly that "Ubuntu Studio. Linux for creative humans" is the same but with a content-creation focus or so | 11:57 |
| smartboyhw | Well, yes. | 11:58 |
| munthe | I'm actually producing a feature length documentaru using GNU/Linux Ubuntu Studio about the subject matter. It may change the lead devs mind. :) | 11:58 |
| smartboyhw | munthe: oh? | 11:58 |
| munthe | After 0 years in the industry I'm leaving the proprietary stuff behind. :) | 12:00 |
| munthe | 20 | 12:00 |
| Hyuri | that's great munthe | 12:01 |
| Hyuri | i don't have years in the industry, but i am leaving the proprietary stuff behind too | 12:01 |
| munthe | A political choice. | 12:01 |
| Hyuri | mine is what i call a sane choice | 12:02 |
| Hyuri | hehe | 12:02 |
| munthe | perhaps the same thing. ;) | 12:02 |
| Hyuri | =) | 12:02 |
| Hyuri | have you watched "Revolution OS" and "The Code"? | 12:03 |
| munthe | Does anyone know how large the Ubuntu Studio community is? | 12:03 |
| munthe | Yes. I've watched them. | 12:03 |
| Hyuri | smartboyhw, have you watched? | 12:04 |
| Hyuri | good to explain people some things... | 12:05 |
| Hyuri | hehe | 12:05 |
| Hyuri | i don't know how large is the community | 12:05 |
| xequence | muntq | 13:03 |
| xequence | argh | 13:03 |
| === xy_ is now known as Guest48769 | ||
| Guest48769 | Hi I am trying to learn about making musik with seq24 using this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSeq24Introduction but I can not connect Hydrogen and ZynAddSubFx to ALSA PCM because there is no ALSA PCM entry in the writeble clients list... is that normal if not how can i fix that? | 14:05 |
| xequence | Guest48769: You're using jack, right? | 14:06 |
| xequence | Guest48769: usually, the audio device is named "system" | 14:07 |
| Guest48769 | yes.... | 14:07 |
| xequence | if you're using qjackctl, and look under Connect, that is | 14:07 |
| Guest48769 | just for understanding: I connected Hydrogen and zynaddsubfx to the audio hardware right? | 14:08 |
| xequence | Guest48769: Usually, most applications auto connect to the writable out | 14:10 |
| xequence | which is usually named "system" | 14:10 |
| Guest48769 | do I have to change something for getting seq24 listed in the ALSA-MIDI list or at least in an othe list of the three i get when I click the connections button in the jack audio connection kit? | 14:12 |
| xequence | I've never used seq24, sorry | 14:12 |
| xequence | you could ask more about that in #opensourcemusicians | 14:12 |
| Guest48769 | ok thank you i will try it there... | 14:13 |
| === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee | ||
| === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee | ||
| caodepalha | hi everyone | 19:20 |
| caodepalha | i need a little help here with an issue with harrison mixbus | 19:21 |
| caodepalha | hi everyone | 19:27 |
| caodepalha | hi everyone | 19:27 |
| caodepalha | i need a little help here with an issue with harrison mixbus | 19:27 |
| Hyuri | hello | 19:29 |
| Hyuri | i don't know if i can help, but tell your problem, so people here can help you | 19:29 |
| caodepalha | ok thanks | 19:31 |
| caodepalha | well when i start harrison mixbus i get an error message: audiosetup value for dither is missing data | 19:32 |
| wilee-nilee | caodepalha, #rd party installs are technically not supported, however if someone knows you may get help. | 19:33 |
| wilee-nilee | 3rd | 19:34 |
| caodepalha | i get the same message with ardour | 19:35 |
| caodepalha | when starting | 19:35 |
| OvenWerks | what audio IF are you using? | 19:39 |
| Hyuri | tried this? | 19:39 |
| Hyuri | http://community.ardour.org/node/1803 | 19:39 |
| caodepalha | thank you | 19:40 |
| caodepalha | do you know if the sugested solution will alow me to record again? | 19:41 |
| caodepalha | everything was fine and i was able to do recordings | 19:41 |
| caodepalha | now i cant even arm a track | 19:41 |
| Hyuri | any modifications in between? | 19:42 |
| caodepalha | what kind of modifications? | 19:42 |
| Hyuri | settings, installations, any related to these programs? | 19:43 |
| caodepalha | well since i found this problem i went and changed the settings on jack trying to resolve it | 19:43 |
| Hyuri | modifications before the problems started to happed i mean, sorry | 19:45 |
| caodepalha | nothing a can think of | 19:46 |
| caodepalha | it all happened when i installed mixbus | 19:46 |
| caodepalha | my friend i think your sugestion got it fixed | 19:48 |
| caodepalha | gratefull | 19:48 |
| Hyuri | great | 19:49 |
| holstein | next time that comes up, there is a mixbus channel | 21:46 |
| holstein | away | 21:46 |
| holstein | if someone can catch the user | 21:46 |
| OvenWerks | holstein: I'll try to remember that. | 21:49 |
| holstein | OvenWerks: lemme find it.. | 21:50 |
| OvenWerks | Under harris? | 21:50 |
| holstein | OvenWerks: its #ardour-mixbus | 21:50 |
| OvenWerks | That makes sense | 21:51 |
| holstein | OvenWerks: it has been active in the past as well | 21:51 |
| OvenWerks | If they put out an a3 version I think that will be the time I buy it.... if finace permits | 21:52 |
| OvenWerks | *finance | 21:53 |
| OvenWerks | Finshed work on the new menu... going to go back to settings now. | 21:53 |
| OvenWerks | Will try to get rid of xfce session so people can't hit it by accident | 21:54 |
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