[00:02] sorry, had to switch PC [03:50] exit [05:44] Bonjour ! [10:31] "Linux for creative humans" - what does that mean? Linux is the kernel. Ubuntu is the OS. Built on GNU/Linux. [10:33] No GNU - no libraries that make up an operating system. [10:33] I vote for "GNU/Linux for creative humans". [10:55] munthe: i second [10:57] Is there a way to remove that boot screen? [10:58] munthe, no. [10:58] I use Ubuntu Studio with my students and they get confused after I explai GNU/Linux to them. [10:58] If you remove it, you can't boot. [10:58] munthe, and really, GNU/Linux will file suits at us if we call it GNU/Linux [10:58] Can I replace it? [10:58] Since for GNU, they need a completely free OS [10:58] Ubuntu isn't one [10:58] munthe, I think so... [10:59] No, Stallman has called for Canonical to call Ubuntu GNU/Linux many times. [11:00] It's not logical to name it Linux since Linux is the kernel and GNU libraries is what makes the OS. [11:01] yes, the only thing is that you won't be able to get a page on FSF showing ubuntu studio as completely free software [11:01] other than that, they will be very happy [11:01] munthe, Hyuri OK。。。 [11:01] I will talk to our project lead on this [11:01] And our main dev guy [11:02] appreciated [11:03] =) [11:06] Hyuri, it would be greatly appreciated if you report a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+filebug for this [11:07] ok [11:07] munthe: you are good in writing in english? [11:07] Thanks! It is a GNU/Linux based OS with non-free components. [11:08] i am not a native [11:08] Yes. I'm ok writing english. :) [11:08] Me neither. I'm Swedish. [11:08] haha [11:11] i think i am not good at writing formal things in english, could munthe do that? [11:13] Hyuri, munthe if you can't do it then I will do it myself. [11:13] I can write it in a few hours. [11:13] munthe, Hyuri then I will do it:) [11:14] smartboyhw: ok, sorry =/ [11:14] thanks smartboyfw [11:14] and thanks... [11:17] munthe: Not everyone knows what GNU is. Everyone understands what you mean, when you call an OS Linux. Besides, only one of the alternatives look good as a slogan [11:19] Everyone should know what GNU is since it is the basic set that makes up Free software that enables Ubuntu Studio. :) [11:19] they will if they read about what Ubuntu Studio is [11:20] munthe, unfortunately, they DON'T. [11:20] The Free Software Foundation has earned their respect from us - I think. [11:20] http://ubuntustudio.org/about-ubuntustudio/ [11:21] Linux, while not correctly used, is often regarded as the name for these types of OSs. So, it's quite correct to use that word in simple language [11:22] so, to repeat myself "Not everyone knows what GNU is. Everyone understands what you mean, when you call an OS Linux. Besides, only one of the alternatives look good as a slogan [11:22] Yes I know. And it's wrong. The GNU/Linux community have no reason to think in market hype terms. [11:23] If people have no clue we have to tech them. [11:23] if someone wants to know more, it's not hard to find out [11:23] Knowledge is power. [11:23] yes... the simple minded are hard to deal [11:24] i think we need to correct ourselves and teach them too. but, they don't even know where the water they drink comes from... [11:25] so, is better to have them using and supporting the "good causes" like free software even if they don't know nothing what is it than they using the other side [11:25] IMO [11:25] do you understand what i mean? [11:27] [offtopic: how do i call people like "hey guys" but universally? other day i said "hey guys" in a conversaion that had a girl and she got angry] [11:38] conversation* [11:43] Agree, Hyuri [11:44] It's actually a much bigger job to replace the GNU libraries in Ubuntu Studio than to replace the kernel. [11:44] Hurd, BSD... [11:45] That's why Android is such a major undertaking - removing the GNU stuff [11:47] interesting... didin't know about the Android side [11:48] You could in theory replace the BSD kernel in OS X with the Linux kernel. Does that make OS X "Linux for creative humans"? [11:49] Android is Googles libraries on top of the Linux kernel [11:49] GoogleLibs/Linux :) [11:49] Mostly under the GPL. That's why Stallman actually endorses a free version of Android called Replicant. [11:51] munthe, Hyuri so what is xequence's decision? [11:51] I suspect that Ubuntu Studio doesn't have persmission to use "Linux". It's a trademark. [11:52] But Linux has said he will never protect his rights to the TM. [11:53] i suspect he will keep only "Linux" [11:53] munthe: 1. The person is Linus Torvalds, not Linux and 2. "Linux" is at least a correct and easier-understanding word for our slogan. [11:53] because of the market [11:54] Hyuri: munthe: As an Ubuntu Studio team member, I will respect upon and follow our project leader (xequence)'s decision. [11:54] * [11:54] marketing* [11:55] ok, i think the problem is deeper [11:56] Linus owns the Linux TM personally. [11:56] And I know that Shuttleworth doesn't want to associate with GNU and the FSF - which is unfortunate. "Standing on the sholders of giants" [11:57] munthe: If we can't use it, everyone will be having trouble describing their OS, not just us [11:57] after people looking at "Ubuntu. Linux for human beings", they will probably understand instantly that "Ubuntu Studio. Linux for creative humans" is the same but with a content-creation focus or so [11:58] Well, yes. [11:58] I'm actually producing a feature length documentaru using GNU/Linux Ubuntu Studio about the subject matter. It may change the lead devs mind. :) [11:58] munthe: oh? [12:00] After 0 years in the industry I'm leaving the proprietary stuff behind. :) [12:00] 20 [12:01] that's great munthe [12:01] i don't have years in the industry, but i am leaving the proprietary stuff behind too [12:01] A political choice. [12:02] mine is what i call a sane choice [12:02] hehe [12:02] perhaps the same thing. ;) [12:02] =) [12:03] have you watched "Revolution OS" and "The Code"? [12:03] Does anyone know how large the Ubuntu Studio community is? [12:03] Yes. I've watched them. [12:04] smartboyhw, have you watched? [12:05] good to explain people some things... [12:05] hehe [12:05] i don't know how large is the community [13:03] muntq [13:03] argh === xy_ is now known as Guest48769 [14:05] Hi I am trying to learn about making musik with seq24 using this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSeq24Introduction but I can not connect Hydrogen and ZynAddSubFx to ALSA PCM because there is no ALSA PCM entry in the writeble clients list... is that normal if not how can i fix that? [14:06] Guest48769: You're using jack, right? [14:07] Guest48769: usually, the audio device is named "system" [14:07] yes.... [14:07] if you're using qjackctl, and look under Connect, that is [14:08] just for understanding: I connected Hydrogen and zynaddsubfx to the audio hardware right? [14:10] Guest48769: Usually, most applications auto connect to the writable out [14:10] which is usually named "system" [14:12] do I have to change something for getting seq24 listed in the ALSA-MIDI list or at least in an othe list of the three i get when I click the connections button in the jack audio connection kit? [14:12] I've never used seq24, sorry [14:12] you could ask more about that in #opensourcemusicians [14:13] ok thank you i will try it there... === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee [19:20] hi everyone [19:21] i need a little help here with an issue with harrison mixbus [19:27] hi everyone [19:27] hi everyone [19:27] i need a little help here with an issue with harrison mixbus [19:29] hello [19:29] i don't know if i can help, but tell your problem, so people here can help you [19:31] ok thanks [19:32] well when i start harrison mixbus i get an error message: audiosetup value for dither is missing data [19:33] caodepalha, #rd party installs are technically not supported, however if someone knows you may get help. [19:34] 3rd [19:35] i get the same message with ardour [19:35] when starting [19:39] what audio IF are you using? [19:39] tried this? [19:39] http://community.ardour.org/node/1803 [19:40] thank you [19:41] do you know if the sugested solution will alow me to record again? [19:41] everything was fine and i was able to do recordings [19:41] now i cant even arm a track [19:42] any modifications in between? [19:42] what kind of modifications? [19:43] settings, installations, any related to these programs? [19:43] well since i found this problem i went and changed the settings on jack trying to resolve it [19:45] modifications before the problems started to happed i mean, sorry [19:46] nothing a can think of [19:46] it all happened when i installed mixbus [19:48] my friend i think your sugestion got it fixed [19:48] gratefull [19:49] great [21:46] next time that comes up, there is a mixbus channel [21:46] away [21:46] if someone can catch the user [21:49] holstein: I'll try to remember that. [21:50] OvenWerks: lemme find it.. [21:50] Under harris? [21:50] OvenWerks: its #ardour-mixbus [21:51] That makes sense [21:51] OvenWerks: it has been active in the past as well [21:52] If they put out an a3 version I think that will be the time I buy it.... if finace permits [21:53] *finance [21:53] Finshed work on the new menu... going to go back to settings now. [21:54] Will try to get rid of xfce session so people can't hit it by accident