| manchicken | Riddell: My last code quiz submitted, I'm moving back over to the kubuntu-debug-installer. | 05:22 |
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| Mamarok | hm, somebody should have a look at bug 975327, as the UPnP support should be available now IIUC | 10:45 |
| ubottu | bug 975327 in hupnp (Ubuntu) "libhupnp 1.0.0, cagibi >=0.2, kio-upnp-ms, all needed in repositories" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975327 | 10:45 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:01 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Unless we get libhupnp in main UPnP support is no go | 12:44 |
| Quintasan | It's still in universe for some reason | 12:44 |
| Quintasan | ScottK or Riddell could take a look if they have time | 12:44 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what at? | 12:54 |
| Riddell | isn't upnp support in kdelibs considered unstable? | 12:54 |
| Riddell | there might well be a libhupnp MIR already done (and probably failed) | 12:55 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hupnp/+bug/682404 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 682404 in hupnp (Ubuntu Natty) "MIR hupnp" [Undecided,Expired] | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | It was Fix Commited but nothing really happend | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: ^^^ what Riddell asked is kind of relevant. | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: It's kind of simple. We will not have UPnP support in KDE at all if we do not compile kdelibs with UPnP support. | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | There is/was one strange thing though. | 14:21 |
| Quintasan | When I simply pulled libhupnp-dev when building kdelibs it was not enough | 14:21 |
| Quintasan | I had to explicitly add -DWITH_UPNP (or something like that) to rules to get it compile with UPnP support. | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | Why do I have to explicitly tell CMake I want the feature to be turned on when the headers are detected when I didn't have to do so for other optional features? | 14:24 |
| Quintasan | IMO this needs to be discussed in detail at #kde-devel | 14:27 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I strongly suspend that's needed because upnp isn't very stable or recommended by upstream | 14:28 |
| Riddell | ah this says it was disabled due to usability issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hupnp/+bug/682404/comments/8 | 14:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 682404 in hupnp (Ubuntu Natty) "MIR hupnp" [Undecided,Expired] | 14:29 |
| Riddell | which is indeed the case with that weird share plasma widgets feature, it's been removed properly now upstream I think | 14:30 |
| Riddell | but that suggests that hupnp might not be an issue for something else to use | 14:30 |
| Riddell | commit logs might reveal more | 14:30 |
| manchicken | Okay, this is silliness... why can't I build libqapt now, when I could before? Now CMake is complaining about missing Qt4. | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | manchicken: install qt4-default? | 14:47 |
| Riddell | install libqt4-dev ? | 14:47 |
| manchicken | Riddell: The later is installed... I could have sworn I installed the former. | 14:47 |
| manchicken | But I didn't. | 14:48 |
| manchicken | Not on the VM. | 14:48 |
| Riddell | removing build cache sometimes helps | 14:48 |
| yofel | Quintasan, Riddell: what I remember about hupnp in 4.6 is that it was constantly making the device manager pop up and display network devices every few minutes which couldn't be turned off | 14:53 |
| yofel | as for HUPNP_ENABLED FALSE, afiestas should know more as he seems to have committed that | 14:53 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: want to put a copy of kdelibs and amarok in a ppa with it enabled so we can test? | 14:57 |
| manchicken | D'oh! VM out of space. | 15:13 |
| markey | is Amarok 2.8 available for Kubuntu 12.10? | 16:14 |
| Riddell | good question | 16:30 |
| Riddell | markey: yep it compiled https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=amarok&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=quantal | 16:30 |
| Riddell | I didn't do it at first but seems like some people still use it for some reason so I threw it in there, not yet tested | 16:31 |
| markey | Riddell: thank you | 16:31 |
| Riddell | markey: do you have a tester? | 16:34 |
| Riddell | kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.8 updated with 12.10 | 16:35 |
| soee | good evening :) | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | hi | 16:57 |
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| afiestas | yofel: don't use hupnp | 21:53 |
| afiestas | that's why it is false by default, it shouldn't be used | 21:53 |
| yofel | afiestas: Quintasan was looking at it | 21:53 |
| yofel | afiestas: was there a large issue with it? or is it unmaintained, or..? | 21:54 |
| afiestas | never worked | 21:55 |
| yofel | I think it did work to *some* extent when we tried it, though I don't remember much about it | 21:56 |
| afiestas | it never worked | 22:02 |
| ScottK | And it's kind of a bad idea even if it worked. | 22:15 |
| afiestas | ScottK: why is a bad idea having upnp/dlna support ? | 22:16 |
| ScottK | Allowing random things to plug and play over the network seems risky. | 22:16 |
| afiestas | your pc already has plenty of those, one more wouldn't hurt that much | 22:17 |
| ScottK | If you're already bleeding from one arterial wound, another should be fine? | 22:18 |
| ScottK | It would be ~OK for things on a private network only, but who never takes their laptop to a coffee shop? | 22:19 |
| manchicken | Yay, growing the partition for my VirtualBox testbed. | 23:24 |
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