[00:05] <shadowbroker> so in #bash, we found out that kde doesn't use a login shell >.>
[00:05] <shadowbroker> kinda bs imo, as it should be loading .bash_profile as expected
[00:05] <shadowbroker> but it doesnt because kde is special :/
[00:07] <NanduX> it's not just kde, I think most of them don't use login shells
[00:07] <shadowbroker> regardless, kde's implementation is, imo, incorrect
[00:08] <shadowbroker> i should be able to expect .bash_profile to load when i login, pure and simple
[01:03] <QuakeEXE> hello
[01:08] <dougl> select a group of pictures from map view in digikam
[01:45] <luis> hola
[02:15] <smaudet> fyi, the openid login @ userbase.kde.org is failing with the following error: http://pastebin.com/Gw9J5JhN
[02:15] <smaudet> I can successfully login with openid elsewhere. If there is a better place to report this, I am happy to oblige.
[02:17] <valorie> smaudet: probably the #kde-www channel would be better, and then #kde-sysadmin if they can't help
[02:17] <smaudet> valorie: sure, thanks!
[02:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> Huh, weird. I removed the notifications for magnets from ktorrent, even restarted ktorrent, and it still does it
[02:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> Wonder if plasma has its own notification for magnet links
[04:00] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know how or if its possible to reset the video driver with out rebooting? using 13.04 with a intel gma using the i915 kernel driver
[04:06] <NanduX> Whiskey`Wonka, modprobe -r <driver_name> and then modprobe <driver_name>
[04:07] <Whiskey`Wonka> NanduX: eek, was hoping for something less drastic
[04:08] <NanduX> a reboot is safer, since you'll have to stop X before unloading the driver, just to be sure
[04:08] <Whiskey`Wonka> right and stopping X means stopping all the apps first, uhg
[04:08] <NanduX> yep
[04:10] <Whiskey`Wonka> well, ok what is happening is that i play counterstrike source via wine. sometimes, and it might be a hour or it might be 3 weeks, the 3d performance drops to near nill. google earth is also effected. i dont really ue any other 3d softwares
[04:14] <NanduX> well, Intel stinks at graphics as far as I know...
[04:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> yes i am well aware of that. this works well enough to do 40~50fps in CS, run google earth and minecraft when i need to manage a server so i live with it
[04:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> just would like to not have to reboot every time this comes up
[04:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> Whiskey`Wonka: steam wont run on the i915?
[04:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> I know it wouldnt work with CS source with the GMA3500, but a mesa update fixed that from xorg-edgers
[04:25] <[Relic]> How does one fix Moun?  It is stuck with 1 upgradeable package that refuses to upgrade or be removed
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> [Relic]: use apt-get
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> GiGaHuRtZ: no it runs fine till something breaks and this blamo ALL 2d apps run at 4~5 FPS
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> er 3d
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> minecraft, cs:s, google earth
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> hmmm
[04:28] <[Relic]> and do what with it?
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> try upgrading X11, mesa, etc
[04:28] <Whiskey`Wonka> GiGaHuRtZ: i have
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> [Relic]: apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> Whiskey`Wonka: from xorg-edgers?
[04:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> uhm, mmm, thats a good , not sure im using that on this one
[04:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> I dont know why you would run CSS in wine if it works in steam on your card
[04:29] <[Relic]> a dist upgrade to get rid of one package that is stuck in the system
[04:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> you are saying a package that is not upgraded
[04:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> yes dist-upgrade will fix that
[04:30] <Whiskey`Wonka> [Relic]: apt-get install saidpackagenamehere
[04:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> nt that it really matters anyway
[04:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> anyways, bbiab
[04:31] <[Relic]> Unable to mark upgrades. Some upgrades may have unsatisfiable dependencies at the moment, or may have been manually held back.
[04:31] <[Relic]> so it is still stuck in muon just not accessible now
[04:32] <Whiskey`Wonka> do as GiGaHuRtZ said, you just have a mix of packages that end up blocking
[04:33] <[Relic]> using apt-get purge doesn't remove it from muon, this little bugger is annoying
[04:35] <[Relic]> well that was fun; seems the problem was another package was upgradeable but not showing at all but only showing the dependancy package instead which never upgraded/installed due to the upgradeable one not showing
[04:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> apt-get -f install
[04:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> no packages
[09:02] <gregor3000> mouse is not recognised when i plug it in (laptop). any ideas why not? it's a generic mouse and i know it works nicely in debian 6.
[09:23] <RoyG> Hallo. Can anyone explain how to change locale settings for xterms?
[09:47] <aries1200> hello,
[09:47] <aries1200> anyone who likes microsoft windows?
[10:02] <aries1200> anyone who likes MacOSX
[11:00] <ssulim> есть кто живой?
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:10] <vedu_> hello. how to share wired internet connection over wifi?
[11:16] <BluesKaj> vedu_, more details please
[11:18] <vedu_> BluesKaj: I have a LAN connection that is connected to the internet. I want to create a "ad-hoc" wifi hub using my computer's wifi so that other computers can connect and use the internet in the LAN connection
[11:28] <BluesKaj> vedu_, ok describe your actual setup and connection to the internet , and how you want the other computers to connect ..it's still not clear to me
[11:29] <BluesKaj> and what equipment router/modem etc you use
[11:35] <vedu_> BluesKaj: I want to use my laptop's wifi to share the internet connected to my laptop's LAN card
[11:40] <BluesKaj> vedu_, this is an ubuntu tutorial but using network manager should be very similar,  http://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195
[11:49] <vedu> BluesKaj: I followed the steps till step 5 but step 6 onwards its rather Ubuntu specific. could you help m eout
[11:55] <BluesKaj> vedu, wish I could but I don't use network manager , and the wifi on our network is handled by the router/modem'
[14:48] <GiGaHuRtZ> Anyone around willing to help with a depmod, kernel, dpkg/apt issue?
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Every since installing something last night, from a ppa I believe (which I have since purged) I cant get apt-get or dpkg to complete fully
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Well a dpkg --configure -a
[14:49] <ikonia> you need to check the PPA's packages have been purgred
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: Dude, I am ignoring you
[14:49] <ikonia> as they are the most likely cause of a conflict
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> And you dont even know my problem
[14:49] <ikonia> you've just asked the problem ?
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Because I havent said what the problem is
[14:50] <ikonia> you can't apt-get fully
[14:50] <ikonia> that sounds like the problem ?
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> ......
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> i can apt get plenty of things
[14:50] <ikonia> and a PPA causing a conflict is normally the common cause, not always,
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> its the kernel it fails on
[14:50] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: was the kernel from a PPA
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> Does matter if its liquorix, maiunline from ubuntu, stock ubuntu, etc
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> npot a ppa, no
[14:51] <ikonia> yes, it does matter
[14:51] <sithlord48> GiGaHuRtZ:  can you pastebin ur error for me
[14:51] <ikonia> as that's whats likely to break the dependencies, hence apt-get failing
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: no, it doesnt.
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> It does it it with ALL kernels
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> ffs
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> kernels that were just working and hadnt been updated
[14:51] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: sure, most probably due to a dependency conflict
[14:51] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: tone down the language please - there isn't a need for it
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ive researched enoiugh myself to know its dxue to another issue
[14:52] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: ok, what issue is it due to ?
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> so please, sto[p talking to me
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> Im far from the only person that doesnt like you in the *buntu channels
[14:52] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: if you know what the issue is, please expand on it explaining what the issue is
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> And your opership is being taken up with the ubuntu council
[14:52] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: I'm not really interested if you like me or not,
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> But for now, /i9gnore
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> sithlord48: one sec
[14:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> I woiuldve pasted longer, but ikonia likes to wage a global irc nerd war abgainst me i9n every channel
[14:53] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: it doesn't change your problem sounds like it's from a package conflict, - unless you can clarify what where you think the problem lies
[14:54] <sithlord48> can you also tell me what you have installed from what ppa also (i know you purged it but it might be helpful)
[14:54] <slatenails> i don't think he can really tell anything heh
[15:04] <BluesKaj> not sorry to see him go
[15:05] <sithlord48> i guess i missed something then
[15:05] <BluesKaj> he's not really venomous as just a plain pita
[15:06] <BluesKaj> sithlord48, not really
[15:08] <sithlord48> i had a strange nepomuk issue but im not really sure its an issue or just outside its use case.
[15:09] <sithlord48> turns out ms.sith has had really bad proformance on her machine lately. and high temps for months now. couldn't figure it out..
[15:09] <sithlord48> turns out nepomuk was indexing her documents and taking forever because of the insane amout of text  (~17GB) it was working with..
[15:43] <Nightrose> hey folks :)
[15:43] <Nightrose> during upgrade i get the following error: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 9813 package 'libgsm1:amd64':
[15:43] <Nightrose>  `Pre-Depends' field, invalid package name `m�ltiarch-support': character `�' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[15:43] <Nightrose> known problem?
[15:43] <Nightrose> anything i can do to fix it?
[15:44] <Avihay> I've upgraded to 4.11, and now I can't see skype windows of all things... anyone bumped into the issue?
[15:45] <ikonia> Nightrose: shouldn't it be "multiarch"
[15:45] <ikonia> Nightrose: with a "u"
[15:45] <Nightrose> ikonia: it should yes
[15:46] <ikonia> Nightrose: where is this package, in what repo
[15:46] <Nightrose> i have no idea
[15:46] <ikonia> !info libgsm1
[15:46] <ikonia> Nightrose: got any PPA's enabled ?
[15:47] <Nightrose> they should all be disabled since i am in the middle of a distro upgrade
[15:47] <ikonia> Nightrose: (I'm assuing this is raring your using)
[15:47] <Nightrose> (that didn't go too well)
[15:47] <ikonia> Nightrose: disabled isn't enough
[15:47] <ikonia> Nightrose: disabling them doesn't remove packages which can be bad/cause a conflict
[15:47] <Nightrose> k
[15:48] <Nightrose> do you have a tip for how to investigate this further?
[15:48] <ikonia> Nightrose: well, I'd look at where that package is coming from - then check it's dependencies, and if it's got an invalid charset in the name, log a bug for it explaining
[15:48] <Nightrose> how do i find out?
[15:48] <ikonia> Nightrose: are you upgrading to/from what distro ?
[15:48] <Nightrose> from raring to saucy
[15:49] <ikonia> really...you're upgrading to a development version and you've had ppa's installed and you've no idea how to manage packages/dependencies ?
[15:49] <ikonia> this sounds like a bad idea
[15:50] <Nightrose> it probably is - i was offered the upgrade - but ok - let me see what i can find out about the package
[15:50] <ikonia> you shouldn't have been offered it
[15:50] <ikonia> unless you did update-manager -d
[15:51] <ikonia> interesting the package version is the name in raring and saucy
[16:10] <s0ck0> Hello
[16:10] <s0ck0> Can anyone help me? When trying to upgrade kernel or do anything recently, I get this in apt/dpkg: http://pastebin.com/cCBSVTaZ
[16:12] <faLUCE> hello. how can I enable hdmi audio on a cedar trail mobo with (l)ubuntu 12.04 ? I can see the HDMI device with aplay -l but I don't see it with alsamixer
[16:16] <DarthFrog> faLUCE:  Use pavucontrol for all that.
[16:16] <DarthFrog> faLUCE: pavucontrol is not installed by default
[16:17] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: ok, let's try
[16:18] <faLUCE> i launched pavucontrol, but I don't see hdmi in the combo
[16:19] <DarthFrog> faLUCE:  Play around with it.  You'll have to set the output device.
[16:20] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: yes, but I see only speakers and headphones. no hdmi
[16:21] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: sorry. just found it
[16:21] <faLUCE> let's try
[16:22] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: thqnks solved
[16:28] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[18:22] <basso> When playing Half Life 2 i get heafty vertical tearing
[18:25] <basso> hmm, kwin is not cooporating with my nvidia card, will try a newer driver :P
[18:36] <Avihay> basso: in windows, there was a way to enable/disable  vsync from inside HL2
[18:37] <Avihay> I've upgraded to 4.11, and now I can't see skype windows of all things... anyone bumped into the issue? login-logout doesn't help. it happens when I use kwin with razorQT too
[18:37] <basso> Avihay: yes i know, enabled it still shows vertical tearing, and i have no idea why
[18:39] <Avihay> basso:  maybe set max_fps in HL to the refresh rate you see in kde's system settings
[18:40] <Avihay> not a solution, I know
[18:40] <basso> I found the solution, changing to OpenGL 2 and native seemed to fix the issue
[18:41] <Avihay> humm, maybe messing with that will fix my skype issue too
[18:43] <Avihay> switching to kwin crashed my xorg, yey!
[18:44] <basso> hah yeah, fantstic aint it Avihay
[18:46] <ultrixx> hi i upgraded from kubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 and i cant find the system monitor program
[18:53] <anonymous_> is there a way to connect to servers with each other using  a vpn connection and something like a "linux host" to manage that VPN ?
[19:16] <something> hey could any one link me a place were i could get ubuntu via ftp
[20:23] <skreech_> something: hi
[20:23] <skreech_> what are you looking for?
[20:33] <something> acctually never mind i found it
[20:33] <something> thanks any ways
[20:39] <skreech_> something: Ok :)
[20:39] <skreech_> where was it?
[20:40] <something> i ended up just torrenting it
[20:40] <ikonia> @mark s0ck0 gigahrtz trying to evade ban
[20:41] <dougl> I thot there was a way to use post it type notes in kubuntu?
[20:41] <skreech_> something: Probably better anyway
[20:42] <skreech_> dougl: other than sticking them on the monitor?
[20:42] <dougl> lol
[20:42] <dougl> yeah they graphical postit notes
[20:42] <something> well idk why i was not able to download it via the https link
[20:43] <skreech_> dougl: add the notes widget
[20:43] <BluesKaj> dougl, xpad
[20:44] <skreech_> something: did you get an error?
[20:44] <skreech_> hi BluesKaj
[20:44] <BluesKaj> hey skreech_ , how goes it ?
[20:44] <skreech_> Rainy
[20:44] <dougl> thanks guys
[20:47] <something> yea no problemo
[20:48] <skreech_> dougl: enjoy :)
[20:56] <skreech_> something: which one did you get?
[20:58] <something> skreech_: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04.2-dvd-amd64.iso
[20:59]  * skreech_ forgot about the DVD releases <_<
[23:05] <skreech_> RiotingPacifist: how did you garner that nomenclature?
[23:08] <RiotingPacifist> skreech_: Picked it a few years ago, seemed like a good idea at the time
[23:11] <skreech_> RiotingPacifist: It's cute :)
[23:51] <DarthFrog> Hey folks, a friend of mine posted asking for help on her blog.  She's having filesystem performance issues and I have no ideas beyond what she's already tried.  If you could help her, it'd be greatly appreciated.    http://crimeandtheforcesofevil.com/blog/2013/08/linux-filesystem-performance-help/