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xnoxsmoser: hallyn_: it does make sense for upstart-file-bridge to ship a job that watches "/" and if "/etc" is created execute initctl reload-configuration. As that job will never be triggered on normal machines, but will be triggered on "overlayfs is bodging inode under our feet"21:55
xnoxor hint, you can drop one yourself in the image =)21:56
xnoxbut you should do that on the base-dir, not in the overlay dif.21:56
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robert_ancellmterry, around?23:02
mterryrobert_ancell, yeah, hi23:02
robert_ancellmterry, hey, reading bug 1212408. I don't think it can be done without what you proposed in http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2011-July/012004.html23:03
ubottubug 1212408 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm needs to set $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121240823:03
robert_ancellDo you know about the bug / did your proposal go anywhere?23:03
mterryrobert_ancell, never went anywhere.  I recall particular resistance from GNOME people.  I got the impression they weren't concerned with the problem space23:05
mterryrobert_ancell, I think historically we've patched gnome-session and its .desktop files to add a new key to specify the desktop23:06
mterryrobert_ancell, I think the request is to move this up the stack into lightdm, rather than gnome-session23:06
mterryor down the stack anyway23:06
mterryrobert_ancell, because now user-upstart is parallel to gnome-session I guess23:07
robert_ancellmterry, ah, I didn't see them in the xsession files, right it would have to be inside gnome-session23:07
robert_ancellyes23:07
robert_ancellrequest makes sense, just LightDM can't work out the names (http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apb.html) unless they're in the xsession file23:07
mterryrobert_ancell, yeah, I think that's still a sensible place for them.  But for now, we'd maybe want to prefix X-Ubuntu- or something23:07
robert_ancellyep, agreed23:07
robert_ancellX-LightDM for now I guess23:08
mterryrobert_ancell, hey, are you still interested in unity8-greeter-on-the-desktop?  I dropped that for now (thought you wanted it for some demo purpose), but I wanted to double check23:08
robert_ancellmterry, not for demo purposes, though I'd like to check it works for phone purposes23:09
robert_ancellthanks23:09
mterryrobert_ancell, I have branches to get most of the way on the phone, but got blocked by u-s-c not really being able to switch between greeter/user-sessions.  Seems like Mir doesn't register them as sessions (racarr suggested that the lack of the whole nested Mir feature was the problem)23:14
robert_ancellmterry, right, they can't be mir servers, but we can test the greeter as a mir client with a u7 session23:15
mterryrobert_ancell, oh I see.  You're saying you wanted it on the desktop, as proof of concept for phone?23:15
robert_ancellI was hoping we could test on desktop as that might be easier. But it seem the dependencies make too many phone assumptions.23:15
robert_ancellyes23:15
mterryrobert_ancell, yeah, it seems that the unity8 engine that drives unity8-greeter needs qtubuntu stuff that isn't fully there for the desktop23:16
robert_ancellright. That was my conclusion too23:16
robert_ancellmterry, though I talked to ricmm and he said he should be unblocked to land qtubuntu mir stuff into the archive now23:17
robert_ancellmterry, would you be able to review the MP when I add the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP support? Shouldn't be too complex23:19
mterryrobert_ancell, OK.  Just wanted to make sure you weren't waiting on a deliverable from me23:19
mterryI mean, you'd still like it, but it's not blocking you23:19
mterryrobert_ancell, OK23:19
robert_ancellmterry, not blocked23:20
robert_ancellmterry, do I have anything specific blocking you?23:20
mterryrobert_ancell, no...?  let me review23:20
robert_ancellthere's no need to review ;)23:20
mterryrobert_ancell, naw23:20
robert_ancellmterry, you're in boston right?23:21
mterryrobert_ancell, yeah23:21
robert_ancellmterry, we're (Mir team+QA) in town (Lexington) the week of the 16th Sept - should catch up!23:22
mterryrobert_ancell, oh nice!23:22
mterryrobert_ancell, yeah23:22

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