=== smb` is now known as smb [13:13] cor ubuntu on bbc news front page, well done [13:19] great! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23402994 === paulproteus_ is now known as paulproteus === Nisstyre-laptop is now known as Nisstyre === Kow_ is now known as Kow === veebull is now known as veebull_away [21:55] smoser: hallyn_: it does make sense for upstart-file-bridge to ship a job that watches "/" and if "/etc" is created execute initctl reload-configuration. As that job will never be triggered on normal machines, but will be triggered on "overlayfs is bodging inode under our feet" [21:56] or hint, you can drop one yourself in the image =) [21:56] but you should do that on the base-dir, not in the overlay dif. [21:56] s/dif/dir/ [23:02] mterry, around? [23:02] robert_ancell, yeah, hi [23:03] mterry, hey, reading bug 1212408. I don't think it can be done without what you proposed in http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2011-July/012004.html [23:03] bug 1212408 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm needs to set $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1212408 [23:03] Do you know about the bug / did your proposal go anywhere? [23:05] robert_ancell, never went anywhere. I recall particular resistance from GNOME people. I got the impression they weren't concerned with the problem space [23:06] robert_ancell, I think historically we've patched gnome-session and its .desktop files to add a new key to specify the desktop [23:06] robert_ancell, I think the request is to move this up the stack into lightdm, rather than gnome-session [23:06] or down the stack anyway [23:07] robert_ancell, because now user-upstart is parallel to gnome-session I guess [23:07] mterry, ah, I didn't see them in the xsession files, right it would have to be inside gnome-session [23:07] yes [23:07] request makes sense, just LightDM can't work out the names (http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apb.html) unless they're in the xsession file [23:07] robert_ancell, yeah, I think that's still a sensible place for them. But for now, we'd maybe want to prefix X-Ubuntu- or something [23:07] yep, agreed [23:08] X-LightDM for now I guess [23:08] robert_ancell, hey, are you still interested in unity8-greeter-on-the-desktop? I dropped that for now (thought you wanted it for some demo purpose), but I wanted to double check [23:09] mterry, not for demo purposes, though I'd like to check it works for phone purposes [23:09] thanks [23:14] robert_ancell, I have branches to get most of the way on the phone, but got blocked by u-s-c not really being able to switch between greeter/user-sessions. Seems like Mir doesn't register them as sessions (racarr suggested that the lack of the whole nested Mir feature was the problem) [23:15] mterry, right, they can't be mir servers, but we can test the greeter as a mir client with a u7 session [23:15] robert_ancell, oh I see. You're saying you wanted it on the desktop, as proof of concept for phone? [23:15] I was hoping we could test on desktop as that might be easier. But it seem the dependencies make too many phone assumptions. [23:15] yes [23:16] robert_ancell, yeah, it seems that the unity8 engine that drives unity8-greeter needs qtubuntu stuff that isn't fully there for the desktop [23:16] right. That was my conclusion too [23:17] mterry, though I talked to ricmm and he said he should be unblocked to land qtubuntu mir stuff into the archive now [23:19] mterry, would you be able to review the MP when I add the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP support? Shouldn't be too complex [23:19] robert_ancell, OK. Just wanted to make sure you weren't waiting on a deliverable from me [23:19] I mean, you'd still like it, but it's not blocking you [23:19] robert_ancell, OK [23:20] mterry, not blocked [23:20] mterry, do I have anything specific blocking you? [23:20] robert_ancell, no...? let me review [23:20] there's no need to review ;) [23:20] robert_ancell, naw [23:21] mterry, you're in boston right? [23:21] robert_ancell, yeah [23:22] mterry, we're (Mir team+QA) in town (Lexington) the week of the 16th Sept - should catch up! [23:22] robert_ancell, oh nice! [23:22] robert_ancell, yeah