[00:21] <szymon> What is the quickest way to test my new app on device ?  ( ubuntu touch )
[00:44] <workingwriter> Thanks for your help, w-flo and annerajb. Will check back in Monday.
[01:17] <NUTsTUN> Hey I have the latest build of ubuntu touch on my Nexus 7 (grouper) and my wifi/bluetooth is not working. Any idea on whats wrong?
[02:34] <debian> hi
[02:34] <Guest92413> is there a big issue with 3g on nexus 4??
[02:35] <Guest92413> tried 0816-no wifi 0817-no 3g 0810-no3g 0815-no 3g
[02:41] <Guest92413> tried Ricardo Salveti solution on all
[02:49] <ikillcypher> hello
[02:49] <ikillcypher> anyone alive?
[02:50] <Guest92413> hi, do u know nexus 4 build?
[02:52] <Guest92413> bye
[04:24] <en0> Is saucy (graphics stack) still broken for the nexus7?
[04:42] <annerajb> en0, have you tried a nightly see if it has been fixed on the latest nightly?
[04:44] <en0> I have not. was getting my tool chain setup to install and saw the note on about grouper on the wiki. it said not to use saucy but that sorta defeats the purpose of getting involved.
[04:46] <en0> I see the comments on the bug report says you can get it "working" after reboots and keeping your fingers crossed. i will give it a try and see what happens.
[04:50] <annerajb> en0, the notes may be old the nexus status page https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE#gid=0 dosnt mention anything about gpu crashes.
[04:51] <en0> ah, yes but it does show asus nexus7 and blocked/broken :(
[04:54] <en0> I think i will get my hands on a galaxy and go from there. Thanks for the info annerajb
[06:35] <Noize-> What
[06:37] <Noize-> What's the current status on Nexus 7 (razor)?
[07:34] <iKillCypher> hey anyone here?
[08:27] <timppa> Good morning
[08:27] <timppa> Can someome point out some link or info regarding currently supported video formats on touch?
[09:31] <CheeseCakeMaster> hello
[09:31] <CheeseCakeMaster> is it possible to test Ubuntu Touch on a pc?
[09:32] <CheeseCakeMaster> hello?
[09:48] <ArchNemesis> Is it possible to flash ubuntu touch  on a  nexus 4 without a usb cable   i've read over the "manual installation" section  but that doesn't seem to work.
[09:52] <mamenyaka> ArchNemesis, after you copy the files to storage, it is possible
[09:53] <mamenyaka> ArchNemesis, if you have a CWM recovery, for example, you jst flash it as any other ROM
[09:54] <iKillCypher> Hello mamenyaka
[09:54] <ArchNemesis> i dont think it has CWM   it's compleately stock at this point  straight from google
[09:54] <ArchNemesis> i'm guessing  CWM is a bootloader
[09:54] <mamenyaka> ArchNemesis, no, CWM is a recovery
[09:55] <ArchNemesis> oh  clockwork
[09:55] <mamenyaka> ArchNemesis, here you go: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_mako
[09:55] <ArchNemesis> yeah  not used to it being called CWM
[09:55] <mamenyaka> sorry
[09:56] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, hi
[09:56] <iKillCypher> well in my device nothing is working at all
[09:56] <iKillCypher> other then adb,touchscreen
[09:56] <mamenyaka> that's good
[09:57] <iKillCypher> so have to wait for the development team to fix it
[09:57] <mamenyaka> no, you have to fix them
[09:57] <mamenyaka> Mr. Bank Account
[09:57] <iKillCypher> o.o what
[09:58] <mamenyaka> I read you've been a really bad boy
[09:58] <iKillCypher> nah
[09:58] <mamenyaka> trolling people, asking for donations
[09:58] <iKillCypher> I never troll anybody
[09:58] <mamenyaka> well, I saw what I saw
[09:58] <iKillCypher> alright..
[09:59] <iKillCypher> anyway how do I fix them? is there a source etc?
[09:59] <mamenyaka> your instructions were bad
[09:59] <mamenyaka> no
[09:59] <mamenyaka> what do you want to fix?
[09:59] <iKillCypher> yeah I did edited them.. later
[09:59] <iKillCypher> everything
[09:59] <mamenyaka> but why do you insist on getting donations?
[10:00] <iKillCypher> well I was asking if they wanted to donate they would
[10:00] <iKillCypher> anyway would you mind telling how can I fix them?
[10:00] <mamenyaka> yeah, it's written MONEY all over your thread
[10:00] <mamenyaka> what do you want to fix?
[10:00] <iKillCypher> how do i fix them?
[10:01] <mamenyaka> just fork my repos you are using
[10:01] <mamenyaka> you should ave the full package in your github
[10:02] <iKillCypher> well if you could tell me how to fix them
[10:02] <iKillCypher> rather then leeching
[10:02] <mamenyaka> yes, that's the start
[10:02] <mamenyaka> and then you can modify them to fix things
[10:02] <iKillCypher> I dont see you modifing anything
[10:02] <mamenyaka> okay, get lost, I'm done with you
[10:03] <iKillCypher> dude what is wrong with you
[10:03] <iKillCypher> im asking for help and you told me to get lost.
[10:03] <iKillCypher> wow
[10:03] <mamenyaka> are you going to argue me you litle pieceof shit or what?
[10:03] <mamenyaka> I had it with you
[10:03] <iKillCypher> you have attuide bro
[10:03] <mamenyaka> you are the dumbest I have seen for a long time
[10:04] <iKillCypher> Im learning..
[10:04] <iKillCypher> you dont need to insult
[10:04] <mamenyaka> then why don;t you behave like your learning?
[10:04] <iKillCypher> well I am.
[10:04] <iKillCypher> you said that once I build it would be static
[10:05] <iKillCypher> and the ubuntu.zip will be doing the work etc
[10:05] <mamenyaka> well guess what
[10:05] <mamenyaka> for you it's not
[10:05] <mamenyaka> for me it is
[10:05] <mamenyaka> live with that
[10:05] <iKillCypher> so you trying to say that everything just works for you
[10:05] <mamenyaka> yes
[10:05] <iKillCypher> and not for me..
[10:05] <mamenyaka> because I made them work
[10:06] <iKillCypher> that is odd since we coming from the same device
[10:06] <iKillCypher> so whats with the not helping me etc?
[10:07] <mamenyaka> you don't eserve to be helped
[10:07] <iKillCypher> ...
[10:07] <iKillCypher> jeez
[10:07] <mamenyaka> you are just not up for this task
[10:08] <mamenyaka> you knowledge is below avreage
[10:08] <mamenyaka> it's just not worth
[10:08] <mamenyaka> and you have the most arrogant attitude I have seen
[10:08] <iKillCypher> alright then I will pass it on to someone
[10:08] <iKillCypher> I dont have arrogant attitude
[10:08] <mamenyaka> Mr. Bank Account
[10:08] <iKillCypher> -_-''
[10:09] <mamenyaka> yeah you ahve
[10:09] <mamenyaka> complaining about that you have school and everything
[10:09] <iKillCypher> Im not going to talk to you dude
[10:09] <mamenyaka> like we don't have anything better to do and just sit around here waiting to help you
[10:10] <mamenyaka> just tell me, how old are you?
[10:11] <iKillCypher> like I say Im done talking with you
[10:11] <iKillCypher> you insulted me
[10:11] <ArchNemesis> oh well,  guess i'm gonna have to order another USB cable,  doesn't appear to be any verifiable way to install ClockWork  without USB
[10:11] <mamenyaka> I'm guessing your like 15
[10:11] <iKillCypher> for trying to help I will just ask the development team.
[10:12] <mamenyaka> ArchNemesis, well, is your device bootloader unlocked?
[10:12] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, even the development team had it with you
[10:12] <ArchNemesis> no  :(   and i think  it required adb / USB to unlock
[10:13] <iKillCypher> ....
[10:13] <mamenyaka> ArchNemesis, yes, it requires fastboot
[10:13] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, look, I may understand that you are very young and inexperienced
[10:14] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, I don't want to insult you anymore
[10:14] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, just think right for a moment
[10:14] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, is this really what you want?
[10:14] <iKillCypher> what
[10:14] <iKillCypher> hello w-flo
[10:15] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, constatly begging for help
[10:15] <w-flo> hi iKillCypher
[10:15] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, because on your own you can't do nothing
[10:15] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, I'm guessing you asked for help even to fix that issue on your thread
[10:16] <mamenyaka> iKillCypher, which I already told you like ten times
[10:26] <mamenyaka> w-flo, do you have a moment?
[10:26] <w-flo> mamenyaka, sure
[10:28] <mamenyaka> w-flo, have any idea about this?
[10:28] <mamenyaka> wlan: loading driver v3.2.3.110b
[10:28] <mamenyaka> [   13.713867] wlan: [442:F :HDD] hdd_driver_init: WLAN device not found!!
[10:28] <mamenyaka> [   13.713867] wlan: driver load failure
[10:29] <mamenyaka> I have an insmod on post-fs-data
[10:29] <w-flo> mamenyaka, that does not seem like the bcmdhd driver for my device.. *scratches head* I insmod the module on boot, not post-fs-data
[10:30] <mamenyaka> w-flo, for unflipped, this worked
[10:30] <mamenyaka> w-flo, for flipped, after ubuntu touch boots, I can manually insert it and works
[10:30] <mamenyaka> from android shell
[10:30] <w-flo> oh. maybe insert at a later time?
[10:30] <mamenyaka> is there a later time?
[10:30] <w-flo> not sure at what time post-fs-data is triggered
[10:31] <mamenyaka> well, at 13.71...
[10:31] <w-flo> boot   This is the first trigger that will occur when init starts
[10:31] <w-flo>    (after /init.conf is loaded)
[10:32] <mamenyaka> here is my init file: https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common/blob/phablet-saucy/rootdir/init.qcom.rc
[10:32] <w-flo> ah, there is "device-added-<path>" .. maybe you can do "device-added-/dev/wifi-device-node" ?
[10:32] <mamenyaka> hmmm
[10:32] <w-flo> just need to figure out if there is a wifi device node :)
[10:33] <w-flo> or you can try "on boot"...
[10:33] <mamenyaka> tried it
[10:33] <mamenyaka> no luck
[10:34] <mamenyaka> also, do you have any clue what this does? write /dev/wcnss_wlan 1
[10:34] <mamenyaka> that's the wifi I guess
[10:36] <w-flo> seems like it's the wifi, but not idea what it does
[10:36] <w-flo> on device-added-/dev/wcnss_wlan   ? :D
[10:37] <mamenyaka> that's what I'm going for
[10:37] <mamenyaka> on device-added-/dev/wcnss_wlan
[10:37] <mamenyaka>     insmod /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko
[10:38] <w-flo> let's hope that device-added thing actually works. it's in the readme, but someone on xda says it doesn't work for him..
[10:40] <mamenyaka> just a quick build and we'll find out
[10:41] <mamenyaka> was that little monkey (iKill...) harassing everyone again lately?
[10:42] <ikillcypher> ...
[10:42] <ikillcypher> non of your business
[10:42] <mamenyaka> ooh, so the you are
[10:42] <mamenyaka> there
[10:43]  * ikillcypher added mamenyaka to ignore list..
[10:44] <ikillcypher> jeez I regret asking that dude for help.
[10:45] <mamenyaka> I know I'm ignored, but jeez, without that dude, you would have nothing to do here, because you had no working port
[10:46] <mamenyaka> and mostly I regret helping him, he started as a nice guy, but became a money hungry monster with no knowledge of anything
[10:50] <w-flo> mamenyaka, I'm afraid that init binary is vaporware.. I haven't checked the source, but don't expect the device-added thing to trigger. Maybe they shouldn't put that into the readme then :/
[10:50] <mamenyaka> great
[10:51] <mamenyaka> well then, can I see when the wifi device get's up?
[10:51] <w-flo> I wonder why it's not up in "on boot"
[10:52] <w-flo> you'd expect everything to be in place so you can actually do something
[10:53] <w-flo> No idea how to fix that :(
[10:53] <mamenyaka> :(
[10:54] <mamenyaka> I will still try that device-added thing
[10:54] <mamenyaka> and thank you
[10:55] <w-flo> maybe you can start a script (non-blocking) from init, then "sleep 10" in that script, then insmod?
[10:56] <mamenyaka> as a last resort
[10:57] <mamenyaka> this is what wifi dev gives
[10:57] <mamenyaka> [    3.435852] wcnss_wlan probed in built-in mode
[10:57] <mamenyaka> [   12.797515] wcnss_wlan triggered by userspace
[10:57] <mamenyaka> [   13.393096] wcnss_wlan_ctrl_probe: SMD ctrl channel up
[10:58] <w-flo> probably no insmod because device-added doesn't work?
[10:58] <mamenyaka> of course
[11:17] <mrqtros> hi guys
[11:17] <mamenyaka> hi
[11:17] <mrqtros> Do someone have good launchpad (or jenkins) experience?
[11:22] <mamenyaka> w-flo, okay, I give up, about that non-blocking script
[11:25] <mamenyaka> w-flo, I have other scripts here, is it ok if I put it here? https://github.com/mamenyaka/android_device_sony_fusion3-common/tree/phablet-saucy/rootdir/system/etc
[11:27] <w-flo> mamenyaka, I've never seen that .. no idea!
[11:29] <mamenyaka> w-flo, in init I have like this copied from the other script loading:
[11:29] <mamenyaka> service wlan /system/bin/sh /system/etc/init.qcom.wlan.sh
[11:29] <mamenyaka>     class late_start
[11:29] <mamenyaka>     user root
[11:29] <mamenyaka>     group system qcom_oncrpc
[11:29] <mamenyaka>     disabled
[11:29] <mamenyaka>     oneshot
[11:29] <w-flo> "disabled"?
[11:29] <mamenyaka> I will remove that
[11:30] <mamenyaka> but like all other services have disabled
[11:30] <w-flo> hm. :D
[11:32] <mamenyaka> but I don't know about non-blocking
[11:34] <w-flo> mamenyaka, I think services are non-blocking
[11:39] <mamenyaka> w-flo, how do I trigger the service?
[11:40] <w-flo> mamenyaka, "start wlan" IIRC
[11:40] <w-flo> inside the android container
[11:40] <w-flo> It should autostart if you removed "disabled" though
[11:41] <w-flo> unless your late_start has problems firing, that is..
[11:42] <mamenyaka> what user/group should I give it?
[11:42] <mamenyaka> root?
[11:43] <w-flo> probably
[11:43] <mamenyaka> okay, I have start wlan in post-fs-data
[11:44] <mamenyaka> and the service
[11:44] <mamenyaka> service wlan /system/bin/sh /system/etc/init.qcom.wlan.sh
[11:44] <mamenyaka>     class main
[11:44] <mamenyaka>     user root
[11:44] <mamenyaka>     group system system
[11:44] <mamenyaka>     oneshot
[11:44] <mamenyaka> and the script is:
[11:44] <mamenyaka> sleep 10
[11:44] <mamenyaka> insmod /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko
[11:44] <mamenyaka> exit 0
[11:48] <Romanian34> Is there a working port for samsnug Note 2 .. Sprint USA
[11:49] <Romanian34> _salem .. u in OR or what state?
[11:49] <mamenyaka> Romanian34, for n7100 there is according the wiki
[11:52] <Romanian34> Re. Mamenyaka whats the link where you found .. i just searched wiki for "n7100 " and "ubuntu touch ".. nothing
[11:52] <mamenyaka> Romanian34, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[11:52] <mamenyaka> w-flo, I am forever thankful!
[11:53] <mamenyaka> w-flo, it works!
[11:55] <w-flo> mamenyaka, wow, great! It's a dirty hack, but at least it works :D
[11:55] <Romanian34> Thanks, they have a simi working product not working cellular radio yet :( which is the "phone" part i do need lol.. not sure how i mised the device page .. thanks
[11:57] <Romanian34> Has anyone tried running wine within Ubuntu Touch? for native .apk and .exe support also?
[11:57] <w-flo> Romanian34, does wine support ARM?
[11:59] <Romanian34> I thought ubuntu phone was a full "ubuntu" port for ARM, intergrated for the "Android" services, I understand any native linux or "Ubuntu" app can run on Ubuntu Touch, so Wine should run correct?
[12:01] <w-flo> I'm not sure if the wine magic depends on x86.. I mean, you can't just copy executable files (like firefox) from your intel desktop over to your phone and use them, you need the firefox source code, then compile that for ARM, and then you can use it on your phone. The good thing is, ubuntu compiled most of the ubuntu apps (including firefox I guess) for ARM so you can use them. However, exe files are usually for x86 only, not ARM
[12:03] <w-flo> according to http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM , you can run windows RT applications using wine
[12:06] <Romanian34> I had worked on a Ubuntu port onto an old android phone HTC, which was no problem was able to run wine then the same as I could run other apps or programs made for linux , or my distro ubuntu, I undersand the base, though x86 vs. arm ect.  I have ran Wine on ubuntu over an HTC phone.. I was just never able to get Halo 1 for the PC fully working :) how I would like to play online on my Note 2 with a bluetooth keyboard and mo
[12:07] <w-flo> that's cool, didn't know it was possible
[12:08] <Romanian34> stacks of compress emulation.. it came down to the direct x render .. I had to re map a custom XP version into Wine for the "windows" then load the game within wine, but the direct X recall to the GPU would cause problems.
[12:10] <mamenyaka> Romanian34, can I ask where are u from?
[12:10] <Romanian34> Linux > Ubuntu Touch > Wine > XP > Halo.exe
[12:10] <Romanian34> Id hope my name says it Romania.. do live in the USA though..
[12:11] <mamenyaka> that's what I was going for
[12:11] <mamenyaka> I am from Romania too
[12:12] <Romanian34> I was adopted.. do you use coinchat.org?
[12:12] <mamenyaka> no, why?
[12:12] <houseofbean> Oh, wow.  I'm in Sibiu
[12:12] <mamenyaka> Oradea
[12:13] <Romanian34> http://www.bitspoker.com/ on coinchat.org there is a guy with the SN of bitspoker he is from Romania also, he also just started the poker site playing with Bitcoins
[12:14] <mamenyaka> would be great if I had any bitcoins
[12:15] <Romanian34> I plan to go to bucharest next october to finish school.  bună ziua
[12:15] <mamenyaka> buna ziua indeed
[12:44] <pras> Problem Installing Ubuntu touch on Device - nexus 4, followed the steps given here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install and before final step installation exits with a error code 255 and device not found
[12:52] <pras> Guys I am looking for help, anyone there
[13:05] <mamenyaka> hello, anyone from apps team?
[13:06] <nik90> mamenyaka: which apps team?
[13:06] <mamenyaka> ubuntu touch Settings app
[13:08] <mamenyaka> in Spell checking it shows UK English, but inside spell checking english (us) is selected
[13:29] <annerajb> ikillcypher, so you need to fix stuff for your device
[13:29] <annerajb> ogra_, you around?
[14:01] <OrokuSaki> anyone getting device offline with adb? I cannot even get into the BusyBox and initramfs now
[14:01] <OrokuSaki> all I did was update phablet, and redownload UT.. anyone run into this?
[14:02] <popey> not here with nexus 4 OrokuSaki
[14:02] <popey> i just flashed it with the latest image
[14:02] <OrokuSaki> @popey thanks!
[14:10] <ikillcypher> annerajb, nothing is working over here
[15:50] <OrokuSaki> you guys know why adb devices is showing my device offline?
[15:50] <OrokuSaki> 0123456789ABCDEF	offline
[15:50] <OrokuSaki> this is just in the initramfs
[16:39] <OrokuSaki> Is it possible the developers for UT can allow us.. NOT to need fanotify and apparmor?
[16:39] <OrokuSaki> I think this happened to me, because I messed with my kernel security settings
[16:40] <OrokuSaki> or lets say, we dont... "care about security" for our device. =)
[16:41] <OrokuSaki> LXC container doesn't seem to have apparmor and fonotify as a requirement..  from the LXC website
[16:45] <stgraber> OrokuSaki: lxc indeed doesn't need either of those, however the ubuntu-touch security model does (at least for apparmor), so I doubt it'll ever become optional
[16:45] <OrokuSaki> so I should just give up now
[16:45] <OrokuSaki> so I should just give up now
[16:45] <OrokuSaki> oops
[16:59] <OrokuSaki> It would be cool if we could disable security on the rom....
[16:59] <OrokuSaki> hell... I just need a newer device... =(
[17:00] <OrokuSaki> I like my 10" hp touchpad though.. too bad.. I have 3 of em
[17:01] <OrokuSaki> At least I can use freedreno with my touchpad on the non touch version of ubuntu.. (real linu)
[17:01] <OrokuSaki> I guess when Mir comes out, I can focus on getting that to work with freedreno
[17:01] <OrokuSaki> ie... rob
[17:32] <P5100> hello everyone, can i install Ubuntu Touch or ubuntu on a GT-P5100?
[17:34] <popey> P5100: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[17:35] <P5100> popey: been looking there but cant find P5100
[17:37] <popey> then that's your answer
[18:08] <Chocanto> Hey, what is the ubuntu SDK chan name ? I think I forgot it..
[18:08] <Chocanto> (and if an ubuntu sdk member is reading this, it's about the Arguments API)
[18:19] <lyda> does anyone use the ivso bluetooth keyboard on a nexus 7 with ubuntu.
[18:22] <Chocanto> mhall119: Hey, how are you ? :) I can't get the Arguments API working, do you who made it ? Maybe he can tell me how it work ?
[18:23] <w-flo> OrokuSaki, why can't you enable apparmor? is your kernel that old?
[18:24] <mhall119> Chocanto: Kaleo made it, you can check with him tomorrow
[18:24] <Chocanto> mhall119: Ok :) Thank you !
[18:24] <mhall119> Chocanto: #ubuntu-app-devel is that the channel you were looking for?
[18:25] <w-flo> OrokuSaki, I enabled apparmor yesterday and modified the ubuntu easyprof template so apps can actually use the GPU driver, seems to work fine (for freshly installed click apps)
[18:25] <Chocanto> mhall119: I thought they had their own channel but I think not
[18:25] <mhall119> not for the SDK, no
[18:25] <mhall119> just this one and #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:26] <Chocanto> mhall119: I didn't know :) But now.. I know ! :D
[18:52] <lyda> ok, i figured out how to right click, but now i can't do left clicks.
[18:53] <lyda> even if i show the onscreen keyboard and click the normal mouse cursor button, it still doesn't work.
[18:55] <lyda> all touching the screen does now is act like i'm hovering over the places i touch.
[19:19] <mhall119> lyda: running what?
[19:19] <mhall119> I remember that bug when I was running Unity 7 on a Nexus 7 tablet
[19:20] <lyda> which is exactly what i'm using!  :)
[19:20] <lyda> is that a known issue?
[19:20] <lyda> i rebooted (ugh) and the "mouse" is back to normal.
[19:20] <mhall119> yeah, I don't remember the cause of it, but it was pretty common
[19:21] <mhall119> something getting stuck in the X stack I think
[19:21] <lyda> should probably get a bluetooth mouse and pair that as well.
[19:21] <mhall119> yeah, I used the OTG cable and a USB mouse
[19:21] <lyda> now if i could only type a "-" i'd be all set.
[19:22] <mhall119> but Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 7 is much, much nicer :)
[19:22] <lyda> amusingly the missing esc doesn't bother me because i first started using unix on a vt220 - which also lacked an esc.  so there's distant muscle memory for ctrl-[.
[19:22] <lyda> ubuntu touch is a different thing?
[19:23] <lyda> ah.  i see.
[19:23] <lyda> ok...  well, do i get terminal?
[19:24] <mhall119> yup, comes pre-installed with a terminal
[19:25] <mhall119> a touch-friendly terminal at that
[19:27]  * mhall119 goes to phablet-flash his Nexus 7 agian
[19:39] <lyda> interesting.
[19:39] <lyda> which do i pick to flash?
[19:39] <lyda> cdimage-touch?
[19:39] <popey> yes
[19:40] <popey> it does have an escape key btw
[19:40] <mhall119> yeah, cdimage-touch is what you want
[19:40] <popey> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Cy_iOYXtfeQ/Ug-pKP2MVwI/AAAAAAAAd2I/hnAbzp7iDaQ/w443-h591-no/IMG_1777.JPG
[19:41] <popey> that was me updating on hotel wifi this morning ☻
[19:41] <mhall119> popey: traveling again?
[19:41]  * lyda notes this will also work on his galaxy nexus as well.  i could have a mesos arm cluster...
[19:41] <lyda> popey: the ivso keyboard has an esc key?
[19:42] <lyda> wait, the back button?
[19:44] <popey> mhall119: nah, was at a wedding
[19:44] <popey> lyda: ivso?
[19:44] <mhall119> oh right, for the couple you didn't know, have fun?
[19:45] <popey> yes, it was fun. they had a live band who were excellent, and most of the people there were dancers, so that was nice
[19:45] <mhall119> cool
[19:45] <mhall119> sounds like a fun couple, you should get to know them
[19:45] <popey> heh ☻
[19:47] <lyda> popey: it's a bluetooth keyboard for the nexus 7 (it's also a case).
[19:47] <popey> ahh, neat!
[19:47] <lyda> ok, i never enabled adb for my nexus 7.  will i need to reinstall android to enable adb first?
[19:48] <lyda> or is there some cunning way using fastboot to do that...
[19:48] <mhall119> lyda: if you can get to a recovery console like cwm, you should be able to run it from there
[19:49] <lyda> the "recovery mode" on the fastboot screen?
[19:50] <mhall119> you can try
[19:50] <mhall119> I'm not an expert in this level stuff
[19:58] <lyda> nope.  reinstalling android and then will set up adb.
[19:58] <lyda> and every time i type that i have flashbacks to ancient macs.
[20:00] <lyda> popey: so that image - that was ubuntu touch on a galaxy nexus?
[20:07] <lyda> is this still true?
[20:07] <lyda> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg02321.html
[20:07] <popey> there are images for the main nexus devices, galaxy nexus, 4, 7, 10
[20:07] <lyda> i should do phablet-flash --latest-revision cdimage-touch -b
[20:07] <popey> that page is outdated
[20:08] <popey> you want phablet-flash cdimage-touch
[20:08] <lyda> no -b?
[20:08] <popey> -b for the first time, yes
[20:08] <lyda> ah.  good.
[21:06] <lyda> hm.  no wifi...
[21:07] <lyda> if i go to system settings and then click wi-fi, nothing happens.
[21:09] <lyda> and same for bluetooth...
[21:12] <mamenyaka> w-flo, hi, have a moment?
[21:12] <mhall119> lyda: lots of stuff in system-settings isn't working yet
[21:13] <mhall119> they've been enabling them one by one
[21:13] <mhall119> lyda: drag down from the top to get the network manage indicator open, from there you should be able to find and connect to your wifi
[21:14] <w-flo> mamenyaka, yes! :)
[21:14] <mhall119> lyda: if you need to enter a passphrase and it's not giving you that option (a known but with the latest network indicator) you can run 'phablet-network-setup' on your host machine while the tablet is connected via USB
[21:14] <mamenyaka> mhall119, in settings, is the spell checker working?
[21:14] <mhall119> mamenyaka: I don't think so
[21:14] <mhall119> I haven't seen it try to correct anything for me anywya
[21:14] <mamenyaka> mhall119, Just I found that it shows english uk, but when I go inside, english us is selcted
[21:15] <mamenyaka> w-flo, could you please check this out? why isn't this building?
[21:15] <mamenyaka> w-flo, https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_sony_common/tree/cm-10.1/extract_elf_ramdisk
[21:15] <mamenyaka> w-flo, I evaded it by using a very dirty hack
[21:16] <mamenyaka> but maybe I am missing something obvious
[21:16] <w-flo> it's a large file.. do you still have the error message?
[21:16] <lyda> what's the phablet password?
[21:16] <mamenyaka> phablet
[21:16] <lyda> mhall119: thanks.
[21:17] <mamenyaka> w-flo, It just a no rule tomake target error
[21:17] <lyda> mamenyaka: duh.  :)
[21:17] <mamenyaka> w-flo, coming from here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_sony_fusion3-common/blob/cm-10.2/custombootimg.mk
[21:18] <w-flo> maybe it depends on some android part that was removed from canonical repos
[21:18] <mamenyaka> yes, but I checked it's deps
[21:19] <mamenyaka> I included external/elfutils
[21:27] <lyda> mhall119: didn't work since my laptop is wired.
[21:27] <lyda> but sed worked instead. :)
[21:28] <lyda> hm.  seems to me the other ubuntu is better.
[21:28] <lyda> ubuntu touch is cute, but Not There Yet(tm).
[21:28] <mamenyaka> w-flo, so any idea?
[21:29] <mamenyaka> exact error is: make: *** No rule to make target `/home/andras/Android/UbuntuTouch/out/target/product/pollux_windy/utilities/extract_elf_ramdisk', needed by `/home/andras/Android/UbuntuTouch/out/target/product/pollux_windy/android-boot.img'.  Stop.
[21:30] <w-flo> mamenyaka, not really, I'm not experienced with the android build system.. My only guess is that including "/device/sony/common" might be missing from your main Makefile, but that seems unlikely
[21:31] <mamenyaka> which one is the main Makefile?
[21:31] <w-flo> core/main.mk
[21:31] <w-flo> in build/
[21:32] <mamenyaka> oh yes
[21:50] <mamenyaka> w-flo, I really don't know how you do it, but thanks again! it builds now!
[21:59] <w-flo> mamenyaka, thanks :) I guess it's years of suffering from all kinds of build / linux issues :D
[22:03] <mamenyaka> w-flo, I have no idea what fixed it eventually
[22:04] <harris> when does it come out to public
[22:05] <mamenyaka> 2014
[22:07] <harris> i heard october
[22:08] <kriskropd> wc
[22:08] <kriskropd> wc
[22:10] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[22:12] <harris> hi
[23:24] <antaras> hallo i have a question...
[23:25] <antaras> can i flash on my galaxy s3 one ubuntu rom ?
[23:32] <ixti> hey all
[23:33] <ixti> i want to try ubuntu phone on my google nexus (maguro)
[23:33] <ixti> unfortunately i can't see it while it's in recovery mode :((
[23:33] <ixti> does anybody had same issue? o_O
[23:50] <nhaines> ixti: yes, that does happen sometimes.  You have to add a udev rules file.
[23:50] <nhaines> That'll fix the problem permanently.
[23:51] <ixti> hm... in factc i tried :D
[23:51] <ixti> i mean i have these rules
[23:52] <nhaines> ixti: what version of Android is on your phone?
[23:53] <ixti> 4.3
[23:53] <nhaines> Most documentation doesn't have the identifier for maguro on 4.3.
[23:53] <ixti> what do you mean?
[23:53] <nhaines> Precisely what I said.  Most documentation that gives an example rules file is outdated.
[23:54] <ixti> ah. no. identifier is correct
[23:54] <ixti> when it's loaded (android) i can connect usb
[23:54] <ixti> and see with dmesg:
[23:54] <ixti> [ 4987.876169] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=d002
[23:54] <nhaines> There's a different identifier in recovery mode.
[23:54] <nhaines> And it changed from 4.2 to 4.3.
[23:55] <ixti> aha...
[23:55] <ixti> hmm
[23:55] <ixti> that explains a lot
[23:55] <nhaines> Let me reboot and pastebin my file.  Took me forever to find it.
[23:55] <ixti> thanks!