[00:00] <sebsebseb> Oddessy 5 axed after one series
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Jake 2.0 with a main guy from the previosu show, axed after one series
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Terra  Nova axed after one series
[00:00]  * penguin42 never watched any of those
[00:00] <sebsebseb> even though Steven Speilberg was behind that one and such
[00:01] <sebsebseb> penguin42: Terra Nova made it onto Pick TV
[00:01] <sebsebseb> what used to be Sky Three,  and now a Freeveiw channel as well etc
[00:01] <sebsebseb> they tend to axe Sci Fi that's my point
[00:01] <penguin42> ah yeh I sometimes watch Pick
[00:01] <sebsebseb> or so it seems, and stuff like that
[00:01] <penguin42> sebsebseb: I caught a thing called 'The Lost Room' on there a few weeks back - a nice odd little series
[00:01] <sebsebseb> penguin42:  finnished off Terra Nova two years later on Pick, since first itme round when was going to watch it well....
[00:02] <sebsebseb> penguin42: yeah   Sky use Pick to get people a taste of Sky 1 shows basically
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Sky 1/2
[00:02] <sebsebseb> and try and get you to get Sky
[00:02] <sebsebseb> penguin42: however apparnatly that was also showing the two premiure league games and such earlier,  or at least on Freeview  etc,  when I put it on  it just showed normal Pick stuff, but  Sky 2 for the games etc
[00:03] <sebsebseb> penguin42: I think Sky are slighlty worried about BT Sport, so they did that :d
[00:03] <sebsebseb> they need some more proper competition in general realy :)  they monopolise like everything otherwise
[00:04] <penguin42> is happy for them to monopolise sport; I don't care about it
[00:04] <sebsebseb> no I don't care much about it either in general
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ,but even so, they could do with more proper competiton when it comes to that
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ideally I would like a proper movie channel to compete against Sky Movies, done in a similar way :)
[00:05] <penguin42> sebsebseb: But it's being obsoleted by netflix etc
[00:05] <sebsebseb> penguin42: I was just thinking Netflix to though
[00:05] <sebsebseb> why do people go to DRM's Netflix?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> simple since they don;t have Sky Movies
[00:05] <sebsebseb> and that's a lot of people
[00:06] <sebsebseb> well some might have it that do as well, but if you have good movie channels, your less likely to use some streaming service with DRM
[00:06] <sebsebseb> surely?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> why pay for boht?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> penguin42: Netflix is annoying as a Linux user,  since the Silverlight issue
[00:07] <penguin42> but aren't the sky movies etc drmd at the box/hdmi level?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> yeah possbily,but that's differnet
[00:07] <sebsebseb> that's a proper TV
[00:07] <sebsebseb> your not watching stuff online usauly like that
[00:07] <sebsebseb> penguin42: DRM isn't my issue with Netflix realy,  it's SIlveright
[00:07] <sebsebseb> and so as a result not being LInux compatible
[00:07] <sebsebseb> I do understnad why they  would want some kind of dRM on it htough
[00:08] <penguin42> right but I can watch it on a suitably equipped TV - so no worse than any of the other things I need a TV for
[00:08] <sebsebseb> ,but why does it have to be done with technology that isn't Linux  compatible?
[00:08] <sebsebseb> penguin42: yep Netflix can be watched on a TV to, if you got what is needed for that
[00:09] <sebsebseb> penguin42: oh any point buying an Ubuntu Edge at this late stage? nope I don't think so
[00:09] <sebsebseb> looks like everyone is going to get re funded
[00:10] <sebsebseb> unless there are like 20 hidden companies who are waiting for the end to  spend money on it or something
[00:10] <sebsebseb> penguin42: to be honest I nearly bought one before, but I knew I probably woudn't have been able to , but trie anyway,    but knew probably woudn't work, since some Paypal issues
[00:10] <penguin42> shrug
[00:10] <sebsebseb> that's the other sucky thing about  the Edge, but that's the site for it really, having to use Paypal
[00:11] <sebsebseb> penguin42: looks like it may not even end at 14 million, have you been following that at all?
[00:13] <penguin42> sebsebseb: Only vaguely
[00:13] <penguin42> sebsebseb: It's not something I'd buy, my phone cost about #80
[00:14] <penguin42> sebsebseb: But it's good they've gone for a high spec design, it would be nice to see it made
[00:26] <sebsebseb> penguin42: yep
[00:38]  * penguin42 wonders which is faster, a 1GHz celeron or a 1.5GHz Atom
[00:41] <daftykins> hmm
[00:41] <daftykins> a modern sandy/ivybridge sort of celeron?
[00:44] <penguin42> http://ark.intel.com/products/56056/
[00:45] <penguin42> daftykins: In particular one of these: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-c847ms-e33-intel-nm70-intel-celeron-847-ddr3-sata-iii-pcie-20-%28x16%29-d-sub-hdmi-matx
[00:47] <penguin42> a lot cheaper than the mini-ITX I was considering earlier, big heatsink and in a normal PC chassis should cool well
[00:47] <daftykins> mmm
[00:48] <daftykins> 1.1GHz is wowzer low
[00:51] <penguin42> dual core I think
[00:52] <daftykins> just didn't think celery went that low :O
[00:52] <daftykins> it's even got VT
[00:52] <penguin42> I don't see anything stating power consumption of the board
[00:52] <penguin42> yeh I noticed that!
[00:52] <daftykins> mm 35nm proc too,
[00:53] <daftykins> i wish ark.intel would just say which generation something was
[00:53] <daftykins> granted you know on the i-series because they're numbered for the gen
[00:54] <penguin42> at that price I'm tempted to just buy it and try
[00:54] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:55] <penguin42> can put it in an old PC case
[00:55] <daftykins> wow a serial port :D
[00:56] <penguin42> daftykins: Designed for shoving in things for control I guess
[00:56] <penguin42> and hey that's useful
[00:56] <daftykins> definitely
[00:57] <penguin42> it's the 4 slots which really make i t - 2PCI, 2 PCIe
[00:57] <daftykins> some cheaper AV receivers can be updated only over serial
[00:58] <penguin42> so I can use two existing PCI network cards and can just buy two more PCIe ones
[01:12] <penguin42> but then how silent a silent ATX psu can I get
[01:13] <daftykins> you're going to want *some* airflow at least
[01:13] <daftykins> even a tiny bit
[01:13] <daftykins> i think zalman do some passive PSUs
[01:15] <penguin42> maybe one with a very controllable fan
[08:53] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:59] <nucc1> does anyone know if it is possible to see the linux "console" in an amazon ec2 instance?
[12:06] <mungbean> myfastforum is down :S
[13:36] <popey> Afternoon
[13:37] <penguin42> hey Popey
[14:29]  * linuxliam is pondering buying a NAS buy i want to be able to run freeNAS on it
[14:29] <linuxliam> but*
[14:34] <shauno> sounds like a job for that hp microserver
[14:53] <bigcalm> Good afternoon peeps :)
[14:54] <popey> yo
[14:55] <popey> bigcalm: fancy some mc?
[14:57] <bigcalm> Sure :)
[15:02] <popey> yay
[15:06]  * daftykins wonders why people fail to use the third person in /me's
[15:10]  * bigcalm I do all the time
[15:10] <bigcalm> :P
[15:11] <daftykins> how heavily flawed of you
[15:14]  * bigcalm has no idea what you're talking about
[15:17] <daftykins> uh-huh
[16:31] <DJones> ok. wierdest advert/childs toy/game ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyOD1C67J0
[16:32] <daftykins> O_O
[16:32] <bigcalm> Oh my
[16:33] <bigcalm> That's not nice
[16:33] <DJones> Maybe if it becomes popular, we'll see gangs of kids chasing dogs around with pooper scoopers
[16:34] <DJones> In the "Don't try this at home" type comments you get
[16:40] <penguin42> DJones: That is very odd, I assume you're posting that as a reply to Popey's top trumps
[16:41] <DJones> penguin42: Nope, you need to watch the youtube video link
[16:42]  * penguin42 did
[16:42] <DJones> Just saw it advertised on tv
[16:42] <DJones> Just couldn't believe somebody would even think about turning it into a game
[16:42] <daftykins> XD
[16:42] <daftykins> it's like something the onion would do
[16:43]  * penguin42 bets there is a patent on it
[16:45] <popey> that Plop Trumps was quite fun
[16:46] <popey> might bring plop trumps to beer train
[16:46] <DJones> I wouldn't be too sure about that, you'd think whoever signed the application would be too ashamed/embarresed, they'd never have any 'street cred' again
[18:53] <mungbean> someone has just sent me a 3gp video to my email address by mistake
[18:53] <mungbean> unsure whether to click on it :S
[18:53] <daftykins> O_O
[18:53] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: is it "adult content"?
[18:53] <daftykins> could be... risky
[19:00] <linuxliam> using XML files to automatically change backgrounds works but the transitions are laggy
[19:00] <linuxliam> any ideas
[19:03] <moreati> mungbean: are you worried about legal implications or security exploits?
[19:03] <moreati> if the latter play it in a throwaway VM
[19:06] <mungbean> i dont wanna see something gross/rude
[19:06] <popey> moreati: it probably won't play on linux, don't worry ☻
[19:06] <popey> forward it to me, I'll test it for you
[19:07] <popey> \o/ weekly shop has arrived
[19:07] <penguin42> it's a hard job but someone has to do it
[19:07] <popey> No longer mother hubbard
[19:08] <mungbean> i watched it
[19:09] <daftykins> popey: fancy not having gone to assist :(
[19:16] <mungbean> it was footage of some baptism service in the states.
[19:16] <mungbean> adult africans getting baptised
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> those poor people
[19:21] <moreati> being American isn't so bad
[19:21] <MartijnVdS> moreati: I wasn't talking about that part
[19:22] <moreati> MartijnVdS: i know
[19:34] <popey> daftykins: assist?
[19:34] <daftykins> in said shopping sir
[19:34] <daftykins> or do you get it delivered 0o
[19:34] <daftykins> i keep forgetting the futuristic tech England has :(
[19:35] <popey> by "arrived" I mean, it arrived at the door, I then disappeared from irc to assist in putting it away
[19:35] <daftykins> my bad
[19:35] <popey> love having it delivered
[19:36] <mungbean> took a proper photo of my gromit model http://i.imgur.com/paxAHCU.jpg
[19:36] <daftykins> nice mungbean :D
[19:37] <popey> heh, nice
[19:37] <mungbean> felt the mobile pic in the dark didn't do it justice
[19:37] <popey> \o/ more stuff on ebay
[19:37] <popey> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281153465524?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[19:37] <popey> getting rid of lots since being evicted
[19:38] <mungbean> lol i have a lload of linux magazine i want rid of
[19:38] <daftykins> evicted!?
[19:38] <popey> yeah, some young upstarts kicked me out
[19:38] <mungbean> £3 post is cheap
[19:38] <popey> yeah, they're not that heavy
[19:38] <daftykins> what kind of upstarts?
[19:38] <popey> my kids
[19:39] <popey> my office has been converted into a "play room"
[19:39] <daftykins> :(
[19:39] <daftykins> that sucks
[19:39] <popey> yeah, for now
[19:39] <popey> I'll turn the garage into an office though
[19:40] <mungbean> mancave
[19:41] <popey> indeed
[19:41] <mungbean> cold and damp in winter though :(
[19:41] <mungbean> and spiders
[19:41] <popey> I don't think it'll be too bad
[19:43] <daftykins> trying to help a friend run crystaldiskinfo on windows to check if a borked windows laptop is due to disk failure
[19:43] <daftykins> why are people so bad at simple file management O_O
[19:46] <mungbean> same reason my socks are on the bedroom floor
[19:47] <daftykins> the floordrobe principle? how can that be O_O
[19:49] <mungbean> wheres the cheapest place to buy gaviscon?
[19:54] <mungbean> think i;ll try asda
[22:01] <Laney> xnox: just got back
[22:01] <Laney> did you win?
[22:01] <xnox> Laney: long time ago =)
[22:01] <Laney> heh
[22:03] <xnox> Laney: i think i was in at 8pm something.
[22:03] <xnox> Laney: also I had a tomato, cucumber, spring onion salad.
[22:03] <xnox> something i didn't have for a week!
[22:04] <xnox> Laney: did you have delays, or it just takes that long...?
[22:04] <Laney> non leaves
[22:04] <Laney> no, this all went to plan
[22:04] <Laney> although i did decide to walk the last bit
[22:04] <Laney> could have made a eurostar 1 hour earlier but my ticket was non flexi
[22:04] <Laney> randomly met wookey & others at gare du nord though so it was ok
[22:05] <xnox> Laney: yeah wookey had interesting schedule down other swiss villages instead of via lausane
[22:05] <Laney> indeed
[22:10] <Laney> now. bed for a week.
[22:11] <Laney> just removed a huge spider that was on the verge of acquiring squatters rights to my bath