[00:00] <goddard> Anna the steam game is on sale for like 3.39 right now
[00:01] <Marlenee> gcc is broken in my ubuntu i do = sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade = and i still get same error while install something and here is the log of "pip"
[00:01] <Marlenee> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/p6bM21xS8tECRIZptTKr/
[00:04] <PocketDog> one more try
[00:04] <PocketDog> .np
[00:08] <Marlenee> all sleep now ??
[00:12] <cartusia> where do you go to find out the command line equivalent to open a program
[00:12] <cartusia> for example under the Unity system settings
[00:13] <cartusia> I am trying to open software sources (I believe that is what it is called)
[00:13] <cartusia> but just in general where do you find out about stuff like that
[00:13] <cartusia> sometimes its pretty straight forward other times it is not :(
[00:15] <kostkon> cartusia, open the software centre and select edit -> software sources
[00:16] <kostkon> cartusia, generally you use the dash to search for applications
[00:25] <qkall> man the size of this room is really lagging my zipit z2 [weechat]
[00:25] <qkall> ...weird...
[00:26] <cartusia> I said through the commandline
[00:26] <cartusia> kostkon, the GUI is not working, and I made pretty sure to be clear "command line"
[00:26] <bazhang> !apt-get | cartusia
[00:26] <cartusia> thanks for the answer its not just what I was looking for and I already
[00:27] <bazhang> cartusia, to search use apt-cache search
[00:29] <FatalPriapism> Does anyone have any experience with setting up 4 monitors running off 2 gfx cards?
[00:29] <kostkon> cartusia, your sources list files reside in /etc/apt  in particular your main one is /etc/apt/sources.list and the others are in the subfolder /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:32] <Marlenee> gcc is broken in my ubuntu i do = sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade = and i still get same error while install something and here is the log of "pip"
[00:33] <Marlenee> this is the log = http://paste.pound-python.org/show/p6bM21xS8tECRIZptTKr/
[00:37] <FatalPriapism> I've got 4 monitors on two graphics cards, and it runs as two desktops, but I only want a single desktop across all 4 monitors...any ideas/
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> FatalPriapism: about the only suggestion that I can think of is seeing whether or not the configuration utility for the graphics cards supports that option (AMD Catalyst or Nvidia, etc).
[00:40] <FatalPriapism> they're both AMD...haven't seen anything of that liking in the utility so far :/
[00:41] <PatrickDickey> Under Display Manager (on the left), and Multiple Displays, do you have an option there? Mine says Single Display (Multiple Desktops) but I only have one monitor hooked up.
[00:42] <Guest72154> test
[00:43] <PatrickDickey> passed ;)
[00:43] <FatalPriapism> yeah, but unfortunately it only allows for multi display with other monitors on the adapter
[00:47] <PatrickDickey> FatalPriapism: can you modify your X.Org configuration to do it? (I'm not sure if it's possible, but it's a suggestion)
[00:49] <FatalPriapism> Took a look at it, nothing that outwardly suggests it would do any good
[00:59] <sl3ax> Hi to all, can I also create an usb with MAC OS by using Unetbootin?
[01:00] <daftykins> sl3ax: disk utility can also do it
[01:00] <daftykins> no need for unetbootin
[01:00] <waterlite> hey all
[01:01] <daftykins> hi
[01:02] <sl3ax> daftykins: thanks. But with unetbootin it will work too,right?
[01:02] <daftykins> in some configs yeah
[01:03] <sl3ax> daftykins: alright, thanks again
[01:05] <phillyj> can someone recommend a lightweight distro that I want to use to XBMC? xbmcbuntu is giving me hardware conflicts
[01:05] <usr13> phillyj: What is a hardware conflict?
[01:06] <daftykins> phillyj: what's happening? also there are xbmc channels :(
[01:06] <phillyj> usr13: i think i'm having some driver issues on my video card
[01:06] <usr13> phillyj: (It is probably best to fix what you have.)
[01:06] <phillyj> daftykins: whats the xbmc channel?
[01:07] <daftykins> phillyj: are you getting a black screen trying livecd mode?
[01:07] <usr13> phillyj: What does lspci say about it?
[01:09] <usr13> phillyj: The xbmc channel is #xbmmc
[01:09] <usr13> phillyj: The xbmc channel is #xbmc
[01:10] <phillyj> daftykins: well, i can load up the ubuntu part of xbmcbuntu but the xmbc goes into a loop at the splash screen
[01:11] <phillyj> usr13: i haven't tried lspci yet and i'm too tired to do it now; been at it all day
[01:11] <daftykins> phillyj: source ISO downloaded ok? 12.2 for your appropriate graphics brand yes?
[01:11] <phillyj> daftykins: yes, it has catalyst driver (is amd specific version iso)
[01:12] <daftykins> ugh AMD land
[01:12] <phillyj> yea
[01:12] <daftykins> phillyj: you should install, SSH in, fully update + upgrade
[01:12] <daftykins> then try
[01:12] <daftykins> then reinstall the latest catalyst if it's old
[01:12] <phillyj> ehat do you mean by fully update?
[01:13] <phillyj> update catalyst?
[01:13] <phillyj> amd driver
[01:13] <daftykins> SSH in and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:16] <nitenik> всем привет
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> !russian | nitenik
[01:18]  * PatrickDickey just a guess...
[01:18] <nitenik> yup)
[01:18] <nitenik> good night
[01:19] <hylian> if I just wanted to install gnome 3 classic version, what would i install... sudo apt-get install gnome-classic-session? (Just kidding, i checked gnome-classic-session.)
[01:19] <dr_willis> hylian: what Ubuntu  version?
[01:19] <dr_willis> !nounity
[01:20] <xvicarious> I'm having problems with boot repair.  I have the paste here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5998021/
[01:20] <hylian> dr_willis: Xubuntu 12.04 lts 64 bit
[01:21] <dr_willis> hylian: as far as i know you need the latest gnome shell ppa.  but that may not work for 12.04
[01:21] <xavier23> HI! I've got 6.0 LTS installed, need to upgrade to 12.04
[01:21] <xavier23> Any ideas?
[01:21] <xavier23> Using ssh
[01:21] <dr_willis> xavier23:  do a clean install instead
[01:21] <hylian> dr_willis: i know i can install gnome 3, and one of the options will then be gnome 3 classic. (Without adding any ppa's), but I want to be as light as I can with the installation of the non-light gnome 3.
[01:22] <dr_willis> hylian:  no idea if thats possible. its like a theme for gnome shell i thought
[01:23] <dr_willis> !eol
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> xvicarious, If you get no help here look at this link, and make a thread there and the author will stop by and help you. Post the bootinfo script in your thread. They are there m-f.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:24] <hylian> dr_willis: i don't know. I am confused as to what is and what isn't actually gnome 3. It looks like gnome 3, acts like gnome 3, and has the options of gnome classuc, and gnome classic with no visual extras, which is pretty light then.
[01:25] <dr_willis> hylian:  as far as i know the latest 3.8 gnome shell has the new official gnome2 look.   earler gnome 3  you had to use one of the fallback modes.
[01:25] <dr_willis> if i want old looks.. i use lubuntu. :)
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Gnome 3 dropped the "look", and went back to the Gnome 2 look? Or it's just a shell for it?
[01:26] <hylian> dr_willis: hmm, well when i install gnome-shell here, I get the gnome 3 look, and the pseudo gnome 2 +/- graphical extras option... so...
[01:26] <dr_willis> PatrickDickey:  like a theme/option
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> Ahhh ok
[01:26] <dr_willis> hylian:  and what gnome versiin is it
[01:27]  * PatrickDickey uses Lubuntu also, so I don't see all of that stuff anymore
[01:27] <hylian> dr_willis: according to it's man pages, 3.
[01:27] <dr_willis> i imagine when 3.8 gets common the other ways to get a gnome 2 look will die off.
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> PatrickDickey, Its like the modern version of fords Thunderbird, its not the real thing. ;)
[01:28] <dr_willis> hylian:  i think you must use a 3.8 ppa for the gnome official  g2 look/method/tgeme
[01:28] <hylian> dr_willis: i have seen screen shots of gnome 3, and this is a dead ringer. so either it is gnome 2 dressed to look the gnome 3 part, or it's gnome 3. (and i was informed that 12.04 did not have a ppa for gnome 2 at all, so this would have to be 3, wouldn't it?)
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> wilee-nilee: Kind of like how my PT Cruiser is the modern "Woody" but it's not the same thing.
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> you got it. ;)
[01:28] <dr_willis> hylian:  theres several ways to get a g2 look
[01:29] <dr_willis> cladsic. fallback. then the official g3.8  way
[01:29] <hylian> dr_willis: yes, this I know. My question was how can I do the most minimalistic install of gnome 3 possible. since the download size was only slightly over 30 meg, I think i found it. Installing gnome-shell now.
[01:30] <hylian> dr_willis: actually, if I wanted the g2 look, I would never had logged on. (I'm an Xubuntu user, remember?) ;)
[01:31] <hylian> xfce does an awesom g2 impersonation, dr_willis.
[01:31] <dr_willis> i cant eben remember  my own name  half the time
[01:31] <dr_willis> i dont use xfce. so no idea
[01:32] <dr_willis> unity. gnome shell or lxde is wgat i use
[01:32] <hylian> dr_willis: no biggie. what I am trying to accomplish is the lcars look, for which i need the dreaded gnome.
[01:32] <dr_willis> i dont really need gnome2
[01:32] <hylian> dr_willis: that's good, because you can't get it. neither can i in 12.04 land.
[01:32] <dr_willis> :)  i dont really tweak things much any more either
[01:33] <dr_willis> a gnome2 theme may ro may not work in tge gnome2 look aluke mides
[01:33] <hylian> dr_willis: well I wanted to say thank you, you are always very helpful doc! Thanks again. Ima go make my linux box look like lcars because I am an encourageable star trek geek. bye!
[01:34] <OerHeks> Star Trek geeks use gnome4
[01:34] <dr_willis> been reading star trek ebooks for thw last 3 months.
[01:35] <Marlenee> if i add user with full permission like the root can be this security risk ???
[01:36] <reisio> Marlenee: naturally
[01:37] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: GNOME 4? Does it look like LCARS?
[01:37] <reddeath68> I am running 13.04 and am looking to find detailed specs for my motherboard in an attempt to find compatible hardware upgrades.        I also was wondering is it possible to switch from 32 bit to 64 bit os of ubuntu?
[01:37] <Marlenee> reisio : so how can i add user with full permission like root ??
[01:38] <reisio> Marlenee: no need to add one, as root already exists
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Marlenee, The add user gui has a admin option for the new user.
[01:39] <Marlenee> i need to add one for learning
[01:40] <dr_willis> give the user sudo rights you mean?
[01:40] <dr_willis> put them in the admin group i belive
[01:41] <reddeath68> I am running 13.04 and am looking to find detailed specs for my motherboard in an attempt to find compatible hardware upgrades.        I also was wondering is it possible to switch from 32 bit to 64 bit os of ubuntu?
[01:42] <reisio> reddeath68: the sanest way to switch is to reinstall
[01:42] <reisio> that goes for any OS
[01:42] <dr_willis> tou don't  convert a 32 bit ubuntu install to 64 bit
[01:42] <reisio> you could, but it'd take longer than "reinstalling"
[01:42] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[01:42] <Marlenee> dr_willis : yes full sudo
[01:43] <reddeath68> as i was afraid then i guess when my laptop comes back from warrenty it will be time to reload
[01:43] <Ben64> reisio: no, you really can't switch
[01:43] <KMo> apt-get upgrade is prompting me to choose which devices to install grub on - choices are sda sda1 dm-0 - i researched it and learned enough to know i could seriously wreck things if i pick incorrectly
[01:43] <reisio> course you can
[01:43] <reisio> it just takes longer, so it's not worth it
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> Marlenee, Do you have a install with a desktop and what release?
[01:43] <Ben64> reisio: its just not possible
[01:44] <reisio> Ben64: of course it is
[01:44] <Ben64> you can believe whatever you want, but its still not true
[01:44] <reisio> it's not a matter of belief :p
[01:44] <Marlenee> wilee-nilee: i install VERSION="12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"  and it on ssh
[01:45] <reddeath68> ok so what should i use to find the motherboard specs so I can check compatability for my system
[01:45] <KMo> anyone know what device i should choose for my apt-get upgrade? sda sda1 or dm-0
[01:45] <reisio> reddeath68: you could try lshw, but cracking it open would be simpler IMO
[01:46] <reisio> KMo: how does the device factor into it? Boot loader?
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> Marlenee, Cool, just wondering with a standard desktop install the add user gui has a admin or standard option for new users, admin is sudo, I'm not familiar with ssh, my assumption is a cli access.
[01:46] <ttom> i believe PXE boot is brocken in ubuntu when there are 2 network interfaces on the client pc
[01:46] <reddeath68> I was hoping to avoid shutting it down opening the case and combim over it.... o well guess I have no choice
[01:47] <KMo> sorry i missed part of the question. apt-get upgrade just upgraded grub2, now it's asking me which device to install GRUB on
[01:47] <Ben64> reddeath68: well what do you need to know
[01:47] <reisio> reddeath68: what is it you're thinking of upgrading?
[01:47] <KMo> sda sda1 or dm-0
[01:47] <reisio> KMo: ah
[01:47] <reisio> KMo: are you dual booting?
[01:47] <reisio> KMo: do you have more than one disk?
[01:47] <KMo> no
[01:47] <reisio> KMo: if no to bot, it'd be sda
[01:47] <reisio> to both*
[01:47] <KMo> its a hyper-v virtual server
[01:47] <reisio> :/
[01:47] <reisio> still, sda
[01:47] <KMo> okay not dm-0
[01:48] <KMo> obviously not sda1
[01:48] <reisio> you'd probably know if it should be dm-0
[01:48] <KMo> but i'm unsure about dm-0
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> KM0201, W8?
[01:48] <reisio> KMo: what does 'mount' output?
[01:48] <reddeath68> in terms of hardware ram, video card, and wifi card as I have money available
[01:48] <KM0201> willybilly0101: ? say what?  i think mean "KMo" (i'm km-zero)
[01:48] <Ben64> reddeath68: you may want to ask in ##hardware
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> KMo, W8 on the HD?
[01:49] <reisio> reddeath68: lshw will tell you about your RAM
[01:49] <reisio> reddeath68: crucial.com will tell you the rest
[01:49] <reddeath68> currently using a amd athlon x64 duel core +3800 processor and a nvidia gt geforce 9400 video card cant remember what wifi card it
[01:49] <reisio> (the rest you'd want to know about ram, that is)
[01:49] <KMo> no, the ubuntu server is virtualized
[01:49] <hylian> dr_willis: ok, i found out two things, 1) I am using gnome 3, according to gnome-session --version, which returns "gnome-session 3.2.1"... and 2) is you where right, the lcars theme will not work with gnome 3. *sigh* oh well. :)
[01:49] <Ben64> reddeath68: laptop or desktop
[01:49] <KMo> with a single virtual hard drive
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> KMo, no gpt uefi?
[01:49] <reddeath68> I had come across crucial while researching but as I had never heard of them I wasnt sure about using them
[01:49] <reddeath68> desktop
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> or raid
[01:50] <KMo> only thing i can think is that it might be using lvm
[01:50] <reisio> it's crucial's business to know how much RAM you can use
[01:50] <reddeath68> the wifi is needed because im to far from router to run wire....
[01:50] <Ben64> reddeath68: lshw and lspci should give you all the info you need
[01:50] <reisio> KMo: check 'mount'
[01:50]  * PatrickDickey is running crucial memory right now
[01:50] <KMo> not sure about uefi
[01:50] <KMo>  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--drupal-root on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620) tmpfs on /run ty
[01:51] <reddeath68> ok I will check those two thank you very much
[01:51] <KMo> none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880) none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
[01:51] <reisio> KMo: just check your existing grub.cfg
[01:52] <Ben64> KMo: in the future use a pastebin
[01:52] <reisio> not really sure why it's even asking you
[01:52] <PatrickDickey> reddeath68: Is your computer a home-built one, or did you buy it in a store?
[01:52] <KM0201> reisio: thats what i was thinking
[01:52] <KMo> yeah that's why i'm confused
[01:52] <KMo> sorry Ben
[01:52] <reddeath68> home built but not by me
[01:52] <reddeath68> got for free back in 2006 so its a bit dated
[01:52] <PatrickDickey> reddeath68: Do you know the manufacturer and model number of the motherboard? That's what will determine what types and how much RAM you can use.
[01:53] <reddeath68> for the age its not bad but with things constantly changing id like to do some upgrades
[01:53] <reddeath68> especially since I keep having issues running occassionally i freeze and have to hard reboot or graphics crash
[01:54] <KMo> what exactly am i looking for in grub.cfg
[01:54] <KMo> This is one of the lines:         linux   /vmlinuz-3.2.0-45-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--drupal-root ro
[01:55] <reisio> KMo: root=
[01:55] <reddeath68> the video card is a nvidia geforce 9400 gt and from what I have seen this means major issues with ubuntu and stability which I have experinced first hand many times
[01:55] <KMo> dev/mapper/ubuntu--drupal-root is the name of the dm-0 device
[01:55] <reisio> KMo: but not that root= :)
[01:55] <reisio> KMo: look before that line for a 'root'
[01:56] <reisio> KMo: probably say something like 'hd0', maybe 'msdos1', etc.
[01:56] <reisio> KMo: if it's ordinary, anyways
[01:56] <KMo> set root='(ubuntu-drupal-root)'
[01:56] <KMo> i think its because this server was setup with LVM?
[01:56] <reisio> drupal? :p
[01:56]  * reisio shrugs
[01:56] <Pinkie_Pylon> hello guys
[01:56] <KMo> its a ubuntu web server running drupal
[01:57] <reisio> I'd guess you want dm-0 at this point
[01:57] <reisio> if you grep it for 'ubuntu-drupal-root' it should be clear
[01:57] <Pinkie_Pylon> is anyone around to help a total noob like me?
[01:57] <KMo> okay
[01:57] <reisio> Pinkie_Pylon: mmmhmmm
[01:57] <KMo> the choice in the grub config is /dev/dm-0 (19050 MB; ubuntu--drupal-root)
[01:57] <Pinkie_Pylon> okay, i've just installed ubuntu and I am ahving two issues
[01:57] <Pinkie_Pylon> having*
[01:57] <Pinkie_Pylon> issue one is that I am using both my IGD and my graphics card to run a total of three monitors
[01:58] <KMo> so if root is currently that then i guess i keep it at that?
[01:58] <reisio> KMo: makes sense to me
[01:58] <KMo> thanks
[01:58] <Pinkie_Pylon> and when I tried booting into ubuntu it would only display the onboard monitor correctly, the other two would have flickering issues and a strange mouse tracing update issue
[01:58] <reisio> why it couldn't figure that out on its own... :p
[01:58] <KMo> i'll let you know if i blow something up. beautiful thing about hyper-v is i can snapshot the server before i do a reboot
[01:59] <Pinkie_Pylon> it's quite a silly setup
[01:59] <KMo> yeah really
[01:59] <reisio> well, that's the beautiful thing about virtualization
[01:59] <reisio> it just happens to be one thing that sometimes works with Hyper-V :p
[02:00] <Pinkie_Pylon> so does anyone know how I can fix it?
[02:01] <kasad>  umh so, I have this laptop that already has ubuntu on it but I need to reinstall, I boot from cd and keyboard is not working so I can't even choose the language
[02:01] <KMo> i've never had a problem with it :p i have four linux servers running apache for drupal, apache for nagios, centos with elastix, and centos with GLPI. i snapshot them every time an upgrade looks even remotely out of the ordinary
[02:01] <kasad> any tips
[02:01] <kasad> ?
[02:02] <KMo> LOL okay its not happy "GRUB failed to install to the following devices: /dev/dm-0  Do you want to continue anyway? If you do, your computer may not start up properly."
[02:02] <KMo> going to try sda
[02:02] <KMo> hopefully it will be happy with that :S
[02:04] <KMo> it worked with sda not sure if it will work with a reboot but i'll try tonight when no one will be accessing the site
[02:04] <KMo> thanks for all your help
[02:04] <dr_willis> put it on a flash drive :-P
[02:05] <dr_willis> for backup
[02:08] <RedefinedClank> If you're having trouble
[02:08] <RedefinedClank> sudo rm -rf /
[02:08] <reisio> RedefinedClank: doesn't work anymore
[02:08] <RedefinedClank> Damn
[02:08] <reisio> you'll have to find something else dumb to say to people
[02:08] <RedefinedClank> Suicide Linux!
[02:08] <reisio> heh
[02:09] <reisio> pretty sure that's opt-in
[02:09] <Pinkie_Pylon> hello, is anyone available to help me with a monitor problem?
[02:10] <RedefinedClank> Prolly not
[02:10] <cfhowlett> !ask|Pinkie_Pylon,
[02:10] <chucko> help is anyone able to help with stutterted tv with intel based based graphic running mythtv .26
[02:11] <Pinkie_Pylon> i'm having problems running a triple monitor setup using PCi+IGP dual mode in my bios on ubuntu 13.10
[02:11] <Diffyum> anyone know the install command for pen tablet ubuntu 13.04?
[02:11] <cfhowlett> !details|chucko,
[02:11] <Kalel> Greetings.
[02:11] <cfhowlett> Kalel, greetings
[02:12] <Kalel> I have a big problem: my webcam doesn't works in my raring.
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !details|Kalel,
[02:12] <chucko> I have a problem with stuttered tv viewing using hd home run. Motherboard is z77 with i5 processor and intel based graphics
[02:13] <Pinkie_Pylon> so can no-one help me then?
[02:13] <chucko> running mythbuntu 12.04 with upgrade to mythtv .026
[02:13] <Kalel> I've installed the latest v4l-utils. Cheese doesn't detect my HP Truevision HD webcam.
[02:13] <reisio> Kalel: what does lsusb say about it?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> !patience|Pinkie_Pylon,
[02:14] <ozzloy> hi, the feed from my camera is blurry after running some opencv tutorials. how do i make it clear again?
[02:14] <Kalel> reisio: Nothing. My webcam is 'invisible'.
[02:15] <reisio> Kalel: got a more specific model #?
[02:15] <Kalel> No.. I will paste it for you.
[02:16] <Kalel> reisio: http://pastebin.com/pQdjHwBY
[02:17] <Kalel> I tried open '/usr/share/applications/gstreamer-properties.desktop' but it doesn't exist in ubuntu 13.04 .
[02:22] <Kalel> reisio: something?
[02:22] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Can you have a look in the file pasted?
[02:23] <reisio> Kalel: got a more specific laptop model #?
[02:23] <cfhowlett> Kalel, no can do.  Great Firewall of China is blocking pastebin for some reason.
[02:23] <Kalel> reisio: hp pavilion dv6 6190 64 bit
[02:24] <Kalel> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/pQdjHwBY | Are you chinese?
[02:24] <cfhowlett> Kalel, I can't see pastebin and ... no.
[02:25] <Ben64> cfhowlett: you're not missing anything
[02:25] <cfhowlett> Ben64, :)  that's harsh, man.
[02:25] <Ben64> cfhowlett: i mean in that pastebin...
[02:25] <Ben64> modem, fingerprint scanner, usb hubs
[02:27] <Kalel> Ben64: So, for some unknown reason, my webcam is not working or even detected. We can see that is not showing it with 'lsusb'
[02:28] <Ben64> are you sure you have a webcam
[02:28] <cfhowlett> Kalel, try plugging into a different usb port.
[02:29] <Ben64> its likely integrated into the screen area, and is not able to be unplugged
[02:29] <Kalel> Ben64: Are you kidding? Of course I have one. Of my laptop. Integrated.
[02:29] <Kalel> cfhowlett: ^
[02:29] <Ben64> but are you sure? my hp laptop has a little circle in the center on top where a webcam could have been, but there is not one
[02:29] <reisio> they tend to be USB devices nonetheless :)
[02:30] <reisio> Ben64: you should draw one in, heh
[02:30] <daftykins> XD
[02:30] <Kalel> Ben64: I'm sure about it. Always worked fine. Probably this shit is broken...
[02:31] <Ben64> watch the language, and make sure it isn't disabled in the bios or by a hotkey or something
[02:31] <Kalel> HD Truevisio HD is the model.
[02:31] <reisio> that's a marketing brand :)
[02:31] <reisio> models have numbers and letters
[02:31] <daftykins> Kalel: if nothing changes after shutting down, pulling mains + battery, then reassembling + switching back on, maybe there's no camera
[02:33] <Kalel> daftykins: Opening the laptop, memory area, battery.. I can see a little cable that is prolly the camera. I will make some tests.. Thank you.
[02:33] <Ben64> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02452221&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en#N1126
[02:34] <Kalel> I saw everything relationed with this model of webcam. And really, I do not know the exactely model 'numbers and letters'..
[02:35] <Kalel> Ben64: Instructions from the site is just for Windows system. Default.
[02:35] <Ben64> Kalel: so? follow the steps for it not showing up in device manager
[02:36] <Kalel> Ben64: Oh... I've not considered that..
[02:36] <daftykins> i like my power idea.
[02:37] <daftykins> power resets USB, if it's there, wooo
[02:37] <Ben64> daftykins: pretty much what the hp link says
[02:37] <Kalel> Thank you all. I will do it.
[02:37] <Kalel> Good night.
[02:43] <eropple> Hey there. I have an Ubuntu Server 13.04 machine with Linux softraid (known working) and I'm trying to use a RAID device as an LVM volume. It's being about as helpful as you'd expect; lvcreate is yelling at me about "Failed to wipe start of new LV." dmesg isn't showing anything interesting, even running lvcreate with -vvv it's not giving me any explicit clues as to what's going on, and Google isn't helping. Anybody have any suggestions?
[02:43] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server
[02:44] <eropple> Yeah, this is a desktop.
[02:44] <eropple> Sorry, my bad.
[02:44] <eropple> (SSH doesn't show me the head)
[02:44] <eropple> Probably more luck there though, will give it a try.
[02:48] <xmetal> just out of curosity, i installed enlightenment after seeing it talked about yesterday in here... not bad at all
[02:48] <xmetal> :)
[02:49] <daftykins> never 'eard of it
[02:49] <reisio> xmetal: yeah
[02:50] <reisio> good wm back in the day, interesting DE at this point
[02:52] <sometwo> I am encountering stalls when doing a make check in a project located on a nfs share. strace shows the process being stuck on a read. wireshark shows an open operation followed by periodic renews, otherwise no action from the client. What is happening?
[02:52] <cfhowlett> sometwo, sounds like a good question for #ubuntu-server if no response here ...
[02:53] <sometwo> cfhowlett, oh? why?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> sometwo, most users in this channel are end-users and don't do things at the higher end like you ... plus that ntfs share
[02:55] <daftykins> nfs
[02:56] <daftykins> sometwo: you actually made my day, someone bright enough to do all the things i'd have tried first :( alas i know no more
[02:57] <sometwo> daftykins, hehe :(
[02:58] <PatrickDickey> Ahh Enlightenment. XFCE made more minimal (if I remember right).
[02:58] <daftykins> sometwo: able to try another protocol like CIFS? kinda avoids rather than targets the problem but i don't know :(
[02:59] <PatrickDickey> sometwo does it have to be made on the nfs share, or could you copy the source to a local drive?
[02:59] <xmetal> i am not a fan of these DE's that seem to be getting more and more bloated ... i wanted to give it a try
[03:00] <xmetal> thats why i like XFCE ... light
[03:00] <reisio> 'Xfce'
[03:00] <sometwo> daftykins, yeah, I have an CIFS share too, it is working well on this machine. I have other clients that seems to have no issues with nfs
[03:00]  * PatrickDickey has tried XFCE, LXDE (lubuntu), Enlightenment... For some reason LXDE stuck, where I gave up on the others.
[03:00] <sometwo> PatrickDickey, yeah, that thought has crossed my mind.
[03:01] <sometwo> PatrickDickey, but then I thought, this should be working.
[03:01] <Marlenee> iam adding ssh key to my ssh so  i can connect from any where with my public key but its not login and keep asking me about password
[03:01] <waterlite> hi all
[03:02] <cfhowlett> waterlite, greetings
[03:02] <waterlite> how are you ?
[03:02] <PatrickDickey> I've actually heard that doing things via nfs is more difficult than cifs/samba. I can't exactly remember what the issue was, but it was recommended to go the cifs/samba route. Especially when mounting shares.
[03:03] <PatrickDickey> Marlenee: Are you creating a ssh key for one of your computers, so you can log into it from others, or are you trying to upload the key to launchpad (or another site)?
[03:04] <Marlenee> PatrickDickey :yes = ssh-keygen -t rsa        then           cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[03:06] <PatrickDickey> Marlenee: That creates the public key on your computer. What do you want to do with it though? (Log into your computer from somewhere else, or upload it to launchpad or another site)?
[03:07] <babinlonston> Error While Setting SSL Cetificate
[03:07] <xmetal> back to the DE topic for a second, i do have my preferences, though I do not like one over another.. I just am open to trying ones i never heard of before
[03:07] <sometwo> PatrickDickey, I think I have managed to get most "difficult" things sorted out with my nfs setup. nfsv4, ldap, krb5 och zfs
[03:09] <PatrickDickey> sometwo: I have to agree with cfhowlett though. #ubuntu-server is probably a better place to ask about issues with nfs. They deal more with things like that than we would.
[03:09] <Marlenee> PatrickDickey : i do this step then after that i add this key in my firend ssh server so i can conncet to his servr from my server via this command = ssh root@xxx.xx.xxx
[03:10] <Senjai> Marlenee: use ssh-copy-id -i /link_to/key root@xx.xx.xx
[03:10] <PatrickDickey> Marlenee: The first time you do that (ssh root@xxx.xx.xx) it should prompt you with his public key fingerprint, and ask if you want to save that. Select "yes" and it should work. To my knowledge though, you'll always have to supply the root password (or your password).
[03:11] <Senjai> PatrickDickey: no, the whole point of ssh keys is so you dont have to enter credentials when you ssh in
[03:11] <PatrickDickey> Marlenee: going on what Senjai just said, you can use scp also.
[03:12] <Marlenee> yes it ask me to save the key and i said yes
[03:12] <Marlenee> i make it before but i generate new key and its faild to login
[03:13] <PatrickDickey> Hmmmm...  I think I'll be storing this topic for future reference. I've got two computers that I log in on, and this would make life a bit easier.
[03:13] <itgold> hello everybody
[03:13] <daftykins> hi
[03:13] <itgold> how to create two identical partitions in ubuntu?
[03:13] <itgold> gparted doesn't give me exact numbers
[03:14] <reisio> itgold: why identical?
[03:14] <reisio> daftykins: heyo
[03:14] <itgold> I want to put them into the raid-1
[03:15] <daftykins> reisio: hi sir
[03:15] <itgold> so they have to be exactly same size
[03:15] <reisio> I don't know about that :)
[03:15] <reisio> probably want lvm anyways, though
[03:15] <daftykins> ugh never partition RAID-1
[03:15] <daftykins> that defeats the purpose of RAID-1
[03:16] <itgold> ?
[03:16] <itgold> I need those partitions on different drives
[03:16] <PatrickDickey> itgold: I think daftykins means because if the drive goes bad, you lose everything anyhow.
[03:16] <daftykins> so you're gonna mirror between two partitions on the same drive?
[03:16] <daftykins> oh
[03:17] <daftykins> itgold: so what are you doing? two partitions on two disks?
[03:17] <itgold> right
[03:17] <itgold> disks I have a different in size and one of them partially used by swap
[03:18] <daftykins> oh that's a disaster waiting to happen
[03:18] <Marlenee> PatrickDickey : any idea
[03:18] <PatrickDickey> itgold, in Gparted, you can click on one of the partitions, and choose Modify/Resize. It will show you the current sizes (beginning and end blocks). Then you click on the other partition, and make sure the size is the same (not so much the same numbers, but the same amount of space between them).
[03:19] <itgold> interesting, thank you PatrickDickey
[03:19] <itgold> let me give it a try
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> itgold make sure you cancel without changing anything on the first modify though.
[03:20] <itgold> sure
[03:22] <sometwo> PatrickDickey, daftykins, Apparently I should have run dmesg. CacheFiles: Error: Overlong wait for old active object to go away. Apparently it is related to the file caching I activated yesterday in an attempt to resolve some latency issues.
[03:23] <daftykins> sometwo: ooh, interesting, thanks
[03:24] <itgold> PatrickDickey, thank you, it works
[03:24] <PatrickDickey> Glad to hear that itgold.
[03:24] <itgold> :)
[03:26] <bark> Hi I'm using an old Maverick liveCD (it's an emergency) and I need to install mdadm but I get the following error: libc6-dev : Breaks gcc-4.4 (<4.4.6-4) but 4.4.4-14ubuntu5 is to be installed. I'm confused by this error, which of those mdadm dependencies do I need to update to get mdadm to install? (i changed sources.list to be saucy) Thanks!
[03:27] <dr_willis> you dont just change sources like that
[03:27] <dr_willis> install what you need from the maverik repos
[03:27] <bark> do they still exist? when i tried apt-get update it couldn't connect
[03:27] <dr_willis> useing the eol servers
[03:27] <dr_willis> !archive
[03:28] <cfhowlett> bark, because maverick is end of life ...
[03:28] <dr_willis> yes they exist. renamed
[03:28] <dr_willis> !eol
[03:28] <bark> cfhowlett, i understand that, it's an emergency and it's the only cd i could find
[03:28] <dr_willis> see the last url i think the bot gave
[03:32] <bark> dr_willis, so far it's working, thanks!
[03:37] <lansa> 中文
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !cn|lansa,
[03:38] <Marlenee> dr_willis: iam changing my ssh server name using this command    echo "ubuntu.user.com" > /etc/hostname
[03:38] <lansa> 都是哪里人啊
[03:38] <Marlenee> buy it doest change anything
[03:39] <lusers> !hostname
[03:53] <EatAtJoes> I installed an html5 using the mozilla store, any idea where the program is stored on my local hard drive?
[03:53] <EatAtJoes> I checked ~mozilla in home, but no luck
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> EatAtJoes: try #firefox mate
[03:55] <itgold> did you install html5?
[03:55] <EatAtJoes> I meant to say I installed an html5 app
[03:56] <EatAtJoes> But missed the word "app"
[03:56] <heath> how do you search for packages which depend upon g++
[03:56] <heath> i.e. search for packages by their dependencies
[03:57] <itgold> EatAtJoes it should be somewhere in a firefox plugins folder or something like that
[04:01] <heath> apt-cache search rdepends foobar
[04:01] <heath> neat
[04:01] <heath> but apt-cache search rdepends g++ shows only the package "cupt"
[04:01] <heath> and that can't be right
[04:02] <vivid> is anyone else having an issue where the mouse cursor is randomly busy at idle?  seems to be happening more and more with no indication why it would think to be busy...
[04:04] <Mace268> yes vivid, a couple times in the last couple weeks but I haven't researched it. Seems like Firefox might be the culprit though.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> vivid: did you try watching system monitor while it happens?
[04:04] <vivid> seems like its unity to me
[04:04] <vivid> considering the mouse cursor is busy while hovering the launcher
[04:05] <vivid> or desktop, but not applications.  i dunno its pretty annoying
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> vivid: im using indicator-multiload to see the load on system
[04:05] <vivid> there is no load
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> vivid: did you check your syslog?
[04:09] <David> hi
[04:09] <vivid> does it report bugs in applications? or just errors
[04:10] <Mace268> When it happened to me it seems the cursor changed while hovering on firefox but failed to change back when moving off of it.
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> vivid: you can try a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 to check in realtime
[04:21] <girvo> hey all
[04:22] <girvo> does anyone know a way to configure 13.04 (w/ laptop_mode tools) to change the default backlight intensity based on whether its plugged in or not?
[04:24] <JainAmber> Hello
[04:26] <holstein> girvo: i just set it, manually
[04:27] <holstein> girvo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/183335/reduce-screen-brightness-in-battery-mode-automatically might do
[04:27] <Amau_Plus_Plus> Hola alguien por aqui??
[04:28] <Amau_Plus_Plus> Espaol??
[04:28] <holstein> !es | Amau_Plus_Plus
[04:28] <girvo> holstein: cheers :)
[04:29] <girvo> holstein: any idea on how to change the lowest cpufreq?
[04:29] <holstein> girvo: elaborate
[04:29] <girvo> holstein: mine is 0.78ghz but I want to up that a little bit with the powersave governor
[04:30] <holstein> girvo: "up that a little" ?
[04:30] <girvo> holstein: intel core i5 with 13.04 running laptop_mode and cpufrequtils
[04:30] <holstein> up what?
[04:30] <holstein> just set it higher
[04:30] <girvo> holstein: change it to 0.9ghz as the lowest instead
[04:30] <holstein> girvo: sure. you can do that AFAIK
[04:30] <holstein> girvo: i did that with a netbook i had, once..
[04:30] <girvo> holstein: I don't want to do it manually. I want to set the cpu governor to powersave, but set the lowest freq to 0.9ghz instead
[04:31] <girvo> holstein: but I don't know what conf file I need to jump into to set that :)
[04:31] <holstein> girvo: ?
[04:31] <girvo> holstein: and I cant set it in the bios here
[04:31] <holstein> girvo: i didnt set it in the bios.. i searched.. and found it.. i'll search again.. and link you
[04:32] <girvo> holstein: cheers, I'm searching myself
[04:32] <girvo> holstein: let ya know if I find it before you, but I've had no luck sof ar!
[04:32] <holstein> girvo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860926 is a lot what i did, but that was back a few versions ago
[04:34] <girvo> holstein: i'll give it a go cheers :0
[04:34] <girvo> holstein: I've got the default governor set already, it works well :) problem is my lowest freq setting is toooo low
[04:35] <holstein> girvo: i hear you.. and the settings are ini the file i linked.. or were
[04:35] <holstein> girvo: you set it based on the "policy" you are suing
[04:35] <holstein> using*
[04:35] <girvo> holstein: Not in 13.04 apparently :P no biggie, I'm looking in the right place now I think, thanks man
[04:35] <girvo> holstein: unless I set it to userspace and define it that way
[04:36] <holstein> girvo: what would i do? just use the machine... there is no reason to mess with those anymore on moder equipment
[04:36] <girvo> holstein: but thats not what i want
[04:36] <holstein> girvo: i know what you want
[04:36] <holstein> girvo: you want a little bit higher freq on the low end
[04:36] <holstein> girvo: and it will be a config file
[04:36] <girvo> holstein: I'm trying to eek out the most battery life out of this samsung series 5 laptop
[04:36] <holstein> girvo: then, leave it low
[04:37] <girvo> holstein: running 13.04 with the right configs has got it pretty damned good now (better than windows)
[04:37] <holstein> girvo: rasing it will "eeK' out less battery
[04:37] <girvo> holstein: I know that :)
[04:37] <holstein> girvo: ?
[04:37] <girvo> holstein: I want to trade a tiny bit less now, for better responsivness. find the sweet spot, if you will
[04:37] <holstein> girvo: im not following you, friend..
[04:37] <girvo> holstein: I'm kinda picky :)
[04:37] <holstein> girvo: then, trade it
[04:37] <holstein> girvo: you'll edit a config file..
[04:38] <girvo> holstein: I'm trying to haha. but defaulting to powersave governor while not on AC drops it to 0.78ghz (turbo mode), and no config files that I've found will let me change what the lowest freq is.
[04:38] <girvo> holstein: I think thats because it's pulling it from hardware, not config, but I'll keep looking
[04:39] <holstein> girvo: you havent fund it, but its there
[04:39] <girvo> holstein: wait, I think I've got it
[04:39] <holstein> girvo: its not.. its there, and you just havent found it yet
[04:39] <girvo> holstein: jumping into the manpage for cpufreq, I think it'll let me set it there
[04:41] <girvo> holstein: I'm an idiot: it is in sysfsutils, you did point me in the right place :)
[04:42] <holstein> girvo: ive been trying..
[04:43] <holstein> :)
[04:46] <girvo> holstein: cpufreq-set -d MINFREQ -g GOVERNOR
[04:46] <girvo> holstein: That's not going to persist over a reboot though, will it?
[04:47] <dr_willis_> nope i dont think so girvo
[04:47] <holstein> girvo: i would have to try it, and reboot.. otherwise, if it doesnt, i would make it presist.. the changes i did were persistent
[04:48] <dotty_the_hamste> Hello, I've forgotten my admin password. Is there a way to recover it?
[04:48] <girvo> holstein: AHHH I worked it out
[04:48] <holstein> dotty_the_hamste: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[04:49] <girvo> holstein: gotta not use the tool, but echo into the /devices/cpu*/ etc. so it picks it up
[04:49] <holstein> girvo: its all open.. so it *will* work out..
[04:49] <girvo> holstein: True that! :)
[04:49] <dotty_the_hamste> holstein: i tried pressing the left shift key but nothing happens and it boots normally
[04:49] <girvo> holstein: One of the many reasons I've used linux for over 10 years now, it lets me do this sort of stuff without fighting me ;)
[04:50] <holstein> dotty_the_hamste: the settings are in grub.. you'll need to make them "show"... you can maybe edit the grub config from a live CD to make the options show
[04:50] <dotty_the_hamste> how do i do that?
[04:51] <Rexodus> Tried that with my phone. 50MHz under the minimum clock, strange things start happening..
[04:51] <holstein> dotty_the_hamste: do what? when i press shift is shows grub.. and if it doesnt, i press other keys til it does.. you are likely not hitting it at the proper time
[04:51] <holstein> dotty_the_hamste: otherwise, you load a live CD, and edit the grub config to show the grub.. or, grab the data, and reinstall...
[04:52] <Rexodus> sry. Wrong channel...
[04:52] <dotty_the_hamste> i tried using a live cd to grab the data, but it is failing to mount my drives
[04:52] <dr_willis_> press and hold left shift
[04:53] <holstein> dotty_the_hamste: sounds to me you have other problems.. ike a failing hard drive or file system
[04:53] <dr_willis_> you used encrytped homes dotty_the_hamste ?
[04:53] <dotty_the_hamste> dr_willis_: yes
[04:53] <dotty_the_hamste> dotty_the_hamste: my hard drives are fine, though you could be right about the file system
[04:53] <dr_willis_> there ya go... :-(
[04:54] <dr_willis_> i dont use encryptrd hd. so no idea how you mont them
[04:54] <dr_willis_> mount
[04:55] <dotty_the_hamste> i'll try again once and come back
[05:14] <k0d3r> I cant remember a command! please help!
[05:14] <smaudet> So I'm having disk 'thrashing' if you will - every so often about a gig or so of data is being written, and then erased, from my hdd. Any idea what thismight be?
[05:15] <smaudet> its not my /tmp directory
[05:16] <k0d3r> basically I want all combinations for a given set of characters. for example "command asdf" would result: asdf asfd adsf afds... etc
[05:16] <k0d3r> I just cannot remember the command!
[05:17] <k0d3r> and I have no idea how to google this
[05:18] <smaudet> k0d3r: don't google it then
[05:18] <smaudet> info bash -> ^s -> search for permutations
[05:19] <smaudet> it exists, I believe you, I've used it before too
[05:21] <k0d3r> smaudet: shuf
[05:21] <dotty_the_hamste> ok, so i was able to reset the password with the passwd command but when i try entering it on the login screen, the screen goes black for a second and then returns back to the login screen
[05:21] <dotty_the_hamste> why is this happening?
[05:21] <k0d3r> smaudet: it could not be more obvious! :D
[05:26] <smaudet> k0d3r: echo {a..d}{a..d} will do what you want, although it can't do arbitrary sequences
[05:36] <smaudet> k0d3r: also shuf doesn't seem to work for me
[05:36] <smaudet> I figured it out but the bash is pretty arcane
[05:37] <smaudet> Its a 3 step process
[05:42] <anticitizenone> I'm having a nightmare on my machine right now, and have been troping through google for hours, and have yet to find out ohw to resolve it, could anybody here help out?
[05:47] <smaudet> !ask |  anticitizenone
[05:55] <Aric> Should I use "apt-get install postfix" or "tasksel install mail-server"? pros/cons?
[05:59] <RealDrProxy> Oi!
[06:00] <Migu`> ,,,
[06:00] <Migu`> hey
[06:00]  * PatrickDickey phew.. I'm still here. :P
[06:01] <berndj> i'm trying to generate keys with gnupg, but something is eating entropy almost as fast as it gets generated. i have chrome open, and it has /dev/random open. who is so greedy for entropy and why? i'm not even using the gui!
[06:03] <entreri> my brightness is low when i open my laptop
[06:03] <entreri> and i must raw with fn buttom
[06:26] <fabrizio> join/ #ubuntu.it
[06:26] <fabrizio> join/#ubuntu.it
[06:27] <andrex> use /join #channell
[06:27] <fabrizio> andrex: thanks.... :9
[06:28] <andrex> see /help
[06:28] <andrex> np
[06:32] <PatrickDickey> Does anyone have experience mounting LVM partitions? I need to know if it's one command or two (since I have a / and /home)
[06:56] <zero_coder> i have got ubuntu now, i want to install windows 8 alongside
[06:56] <zero_coder> i have created a seprate parititon for that
[06:57] <zero_coder> but if i install windows i wont be able to boot into linux
[06:57] <dr_willis> be sure you know how to repair grub
[06:57] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[06:57] <zero_coder> dr_willis, i dont know
[06:58] <dr_willis> see above url.. make a usb flash that has grub on it canbe handy also
[06:59] <saw> Привет всем!!! )
[06:59] <dr_willis> !ru
[07:03] <ano110h> hey guys
[07:03] <ano110h> i have a quick q
[07:03] <dr_willis> ok..
[07:03] <ano110h> someone please answer me
[07:03] <ano110h> ok
[07:04] <ano110h> here goes
[07:04] <ano110h> i just installed ubuntu
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> !enter | ano110h
[07:04] <ano110h> and
[07:04] <ano110h> uhh
[07:04] <ano110h> well
[07:04] <FloodBot1> ano110h: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <ano110h> i only did
[07:04] <ano110h> because
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Heh
[07:04] <dr_willis> just state the question..  not 3 words at a timed
[07:08] <dr_willis> guess he gave up.
[07:09] <Marlenee_s> locate: can not stat () `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory
[07:09] <Marlenee_s> error while i locate ?
[07:09] <dr_willis> Marlenee_s:   try    sudo updatedb
[07:10] <dr_willis> this a new install?
[07:11] <Marlenee_s> dr_willis : thank you
[07:11] <dr_willis> locate uses a database.. updated every 24 hrs.
[07:11] <dr_willis> via cron
[07:13] <Marlenee_s> i dont know how to use cron ?
[07:13] <dr_willis> cron does it for you.. locate has a cron job
[07:14] <dr_willis> a new install has no database.. yet
[07:14] <Marlenee_s> what is the command to do that
[07:14] <dr_willis> do what?
[07:14] <Marlenee_s> do cron update database
[07:15] <dr_willis> i gave it to you allready...
[07:15] <dr_willis> updatedb
[07:15] <dr_willis> cron runs  that daily
[07:16] <Marlenee_s> yes i do but is this command i have to run it manually every day or is there command that do auto ??
[07:16]  * xmetal yawns
[07:16] <dr_willis> cron runs  that daily  ...........
[07:17] <studio> Hi
[07:18] <dr_willis> hello
[07:20] <xmetal> keep meaning to try out gfxboot though i keep forgetting (not enough time)
[07:20] <studio> I am new to linux
[07:26] <dr_willis> !manual
[07:26] <Pookiepaul_> hi scooby
[07:26] <nitenik> hi
[07:27] <nitenik> help me with aircrack
[07:27] <dr_willis> hello
[07:27] <nitenik> i wspend a night
[07:27] <nitenik> with it
[07:27] <Marlenee_s> dr_willis:  cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 8366: Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:27] <dr_willis> !details
[07:27] <nitenik> but i dont understend how to make drivers
[07:28] <dr_willis> what are ypu  doing exactly
[07:28] <Marlenee_s> try to run "cron updatedb"
[07:28] <nitenik> I learn how to use aircrack ng
[07:28] <dr_willis> Marlenee_s:  because thats  not a  legit command
[07:28] <bazhang> nitenik, #aircrack-ng
[07:29] <dr_willis> Marlenee_s:  why are ypu trying that
[07:29] <nitenik> yup
[07:29] <bazhang> nitenik, its a channel, join it
[07:30] <nitenik> thanx alot
[07:30] <phewl> hrm
[07:30] <phewl> hrm
[07:30] <phewl> hrm
[07:30] <FloodBot1> phewl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <phewl> sry
[07:34] <Marlenee_s> dr_willis:  what is the right command to use cron ?
[07:35] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, read the manual for it yet?
[07:35] <dr_willis> updatedb
[07:35] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, you really need to do some reading on this topic
[07:35] <dr_willis> is the command.... for the 3rd time
[07:36] <dr_willis> cron runs  that command for you  daily  ...........
[07:36] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, the manual pages are online, please have a read of them
[07:36] <dr_willis> !cron
[07:36] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, ^^ this link too
[07:37] <dr_willis> im not clear why ypu need cron at this time
[07:40] <Marlenee_s> becuase i have php file and i want to run it just one time every day in and this PHP use local library
[07:40] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, so read the manual, and learn how to use it properly
[07:43] <Marlenee_s> iam doing this now is there a tutorial can be help me
[07:44] <Mace268> didn't ubottu just shoot you a link?
[07:45] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, yes
[07:45] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, the link was given to you
[07:46] <bazhang> Marlenee_s, manpages.ubuntu.com
[07:53] <Gr3mlin> hay guys, is anyone able to help with ubuntu server?
[07:53] <dr_willis> !details
[07:54] <bazhang> Gr3mlin, tried #ubuntu-server ?
[07:54] <Gr3mlin> thanks bazhang ;D
[07:56] <snufft> stupid noob question: when I get a whole bunch of "Errhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main" messages when trying to add/upgrade stuff, what am I doing wrong? Where have the URL's moved to?
[07:56] <dr_willis> server may be down
[07:57] <dr_willis> but that would be weird
[07:58] <snufft> dr_willis, where would i even start debugging that?
[07:58] <dr_willis> try different servers may fix it
[07:59] <morph> hey guys. I just set up some partitions on a server as GPT
[07:59] <morph> now I need to install ubuntu on it. (this is a remote server. no physical access) how do i do this?
[08:00] <blake> perhaps consult somebody who has physical access
[08:00] <morph> its hosted at OVH
[08:00] <morph> so im booted into rescue pro at the moment. i'm gonna have to do this myself.
[08:00] <gordonjcp> morph: submit a support ticket and get OVH to do it?
[08:00] <snufft> dr_willis, thanks :) I'll give ti a shot :)
[08:00] <morph> I don't think they do that gordonjcp :(
[08:01] <gordonjcp> morph: do you get serial console access?
[08:01] <morph> No. I am ssh'd in at the moment though
[08:01] <speedwagon2> Hi, I recently updated and now I am getting a black screen (running in a virtualbox).
[08:03] <speedwagon2> Typing startx in a console gives errors in .xsession-errors failed to connect to the virtualbox kernel service
[08:04] <OnkelTem> Hi
[08:05] <OnkelTem> What package should I install to get Sound Settings in System Settings window?
[08:20] <Antar> Hi
[08:20] <dr_willis> moo
[08:20] <mhzarei> Hi everyone, I want to use nmcli to make a VPN connection in Ubuntu LTS 12.04. I config a new connection in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections. My question is that what uuid must set for new connection in config file (for UUID variable)?
[08:20] <czoczoundo> [ubuntu 13.04] monitor won't wake up after putting laptop in suspended mode
[08:21] <czoczoundo> how do diagnose and fix?
[08:21] <Antar> I cant see webfonts working on firefox/Ubuntu
[08:22] <dr_willis> works in chrome Antar ?
[08:22] <czoczoundo> how to*
[08:22] <Antar> i dont installed yet
[08:23] <dr_willis> czoczoundo:  check forums and askubuntu. com yet for the exact make laptop?
[08:23] <Antar> dr_willis is it an idea or you know that it work ?
[08:23] <dr_willis> try it as a test
[08:24] <czoczoundo> dr_willis, I know it's classic one and I already tried many solutions from net, nothing worked for my Asus X53T.
[08:25] <Antar> dr_willis http://geoinfo.hostoi.com/ i am using Neuropol here but i cant see it working ?
[08:25] <BlackDalek> does anyone here know how to get qjoypad to work in ubuntu 13.04?
[08:25] <Antar> using the fontface Mechanism
[08:26] <dr_willis> that site is not working here
[08:26] <Antar> ok ok
[08:26] <dr_willis> !find qjoypad
[08:26] <Antar> sorry it is freehost
[08:27] <Antar> does not exist in 13.04 ?
[08:27] <dr_willis> looks lime qjoypad is gone
[08:28] <Antar> i have used synaptic to install ttf-mscorefont but no result ..
[08:29] <Antar> dr_willis
[08:30] <dr_willis> I don't see how. webfonts are related to the mscorefonts package
[08:32] <dr_willis> http://m.webupd8.org/2011/01/automatically-install-all-google-web.html
[08:32] <Antar> Microsoft fonts is widely used on the web Nowadays
[08:33] <Antar> dr_willis installing all fonts on the system is not a technique
[08:34] <dr_willis> you seem confused about them... the browser grabs them on the fly.
[08:34] <Antar> whene you access a website using the @font-face it should automaticly download the font on the /tmp directory
[08:34] <Antar> and use it
[08:34] <dr_willis> you were the one that. downloading. the Ms fonts
[08:35] <mhzarei> Hi, I make a new vpn connection by make a new file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/vpn1 . When I use ' sudo nmcli con up id vpn1' to up connection, this error occurred: Error: Unknown connection: vpn1.
[08:36] <Antar> dr_willis Yeah
[08:38] <karab44> hi
[08:38] <Antar> Hi karab44
[08:38] <karab44> :)
[08:38] <czoczoundo> Can someone look into my problem?
[08:39] <dr_willis> http://james.gameover.com/zen/examples/font-face/  as a test perhaps.  I'm on my android tablet.  not Ubuntu right now
[08:39] <karab44> yes, people with problems here... unfortunately I have one too... :(
[08:40] <Antar> dr_willis Its Working Prefectly On Chrome
[08:40] <Antar> dr_willis Its Thanks For Google Real Developers
[08:54] <Vlyn> Good morning everyone
[08:56] <Vlyn> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) besides Windows 7 and every time I log into Ubuntu about half a minute later the whole system freezes. Sometimes I can still move the mouse, sometimes not even that is possible. Only thing to do then is a hard reboot. I have no clue why that happens, this PC used Ubuntu flawlessly about 2 years ago in the same setup.
[08:57] <wilee-nilee> Vlyn, Just in ubuntu?
[08:58] <Vlyn> Well, I strangely had the same problem with my live USB stick. But just in Ubuntu
[08:58] <Vlyn> For example: Xubuntu is fine
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> Vlyn, Never in windows?
[08:58] <Vlyn> Lol, no, never
[08:59] <Vlyn> It's just in Ubuntu. Log in, 20-30 seconds later dead
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> Vlyn, that may seem funny, but ruling out hardware is like real important.
[09:00] <Vlyn> The strange thing is: I already ran Ubuntu without problems on this PC and it's not old hardware (i7 2600K, Geforce GTX 580, 8 GB Ram)
[09:00] <ocooel> Video editing..?
[09:02] <ocooel> Best apps for video editing..?
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !best | ocooel
[09:03] <ocooel> lotuspsychje: TY
[09:04] <dr_willis> depends on the task
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !info openshot | ocooel
[09:05] <dr_willis> !info ffmpeg
[09:05] <dr_willis> !info kino
[09:07] <Vlyn> Some say they got freezes because of Compiz… but that's because they don't have a good enough GPU to handle it
[09:07] <Vlyn> Strange :-/
[09:07] <dr_willis> can be driver issues
[09:07] <ocooel> Thanks guys.
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> ocooel: http://www.junauza.com/2012/01/video-editing-software-for-ubuntu.html
[09:09] <dr_willis> I just need a simple video trimmer GUI.
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: to slice video's in parts?
[09:10] <dr_willis> trim the ends and cut out commercials.       :)
[09:11] <dr_willis> got.    'vidtrim' on android. that does the job OK.
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: vlc can record the part of the movie you need aswell
[09:12] <dr_willis> I have the. video recorded..  I need to just trim out a few min.
[09:12] <dr_willis> easially
[09:13] <dr_willis> been using avidemux
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes i know, play the video with vlc and hit the record button where you wanna start cut
[09:14] <Vlyn> Welp, no help here it seems. I'll just try to start into the console and get the nvidia driver, maybe that's the problem
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://www.guidingtech.com/8802/use-vlc-as-video-cuting-tool/
[09:14] <dr_willis> and if I want to Grimm 10 min off the end... or the middle..
[09:14] <dr_willis> trimm
[09:15] <dr_willis> seems awkward.
[09:15] <rebar> how do I add a second monitor in xorg.conf?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: record/stop
[09:15] <Ub> Hi
[09:15] <Gr3mlin> anyone know anything about connecting to ubuntu via putty using an auth key? getting Server refused our key errors.
[09:16] <Ub> my Cpu work in 100% when i open a flash video on chrome
[09:16] <Ub> can any one help me ?
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> rebar: maybe try in xrandr?
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> Gr3mlin: might be usefull to paste your error in chat
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> Ub: same in firefox? or only in chrome
[09:18] <dr_willis> rebar: what video card/driver?
[09:18] <Ub> just in chrome
[09:18] <rebar> Nvidia, GTX 580
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Ub: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37305/100-cpu-consumption-with-adobe-flash-videos-in-chrome
[09:19] <Ub> lotuspsychje what do you think
[09:19] <dr_willis> rebar:  I just plug mine both in and it auto. does it..  or run the.  nvidia-settings. tool
[09:20] <dr_willis> rebar:  on 13.04
[09:20] <rebar> you know if it does that aswell on 12.04?
[09:20] <Ub> lotuspsychje so , solution ?
[09:20] <friktor> hey, who knows how well the GTK + 3.8 in Wayland?
[09:20] <dr_willis> rebar:  run nvidia-settings
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Ub: might be your regular flash conflicting with chrome, read that url
[09:22] <dr_willis> friktor:  I'd guess not well. at this stage.  :)
[09:24] <Gr3mlin> lotuspsychje: you meant the error i get "Server refused our key" in event log " offered public key _ Server refused public key"
[09:24] <Kyzz> When installing somethuing from source how can I go about doing that?
[09:25] <Kyzz> I've downloaded the source and am in the proper directory, but what do I do next in the terminal
[09:25] <dr_willis> read the readme file
[09:25] <Kyzz> is there a certain command?
[09:25] <dr_willis> extract.  read docs.  compile . install
[09:25] <itgold> hello
[09:26] <dr_willis> !source
[09:26] <dr_willis> !compile
[09:26] <itgold> when I do Run in Terminal is ther any way to keep my window opened after it finish execution?
[09:26] <dr_willis> itgold:  running g what?
[09:27] <itgold> I'm running rsync from bash script
[09:27] <dr_willis> run.    command. &&  read Foo.              perhaps
[09:27] <dr_willis> read. Foo.    waits for you to hit. return
[09:27] <dr_willis> silly auto correct..   ;)_
[09:28] <itgold> yes, I'm trying to use read -p but it doesn't seems to affect anything
[09:28] <itgold> the terminal window just closes
[09:29] <dr_willis> run.     xterm -e script.       perhaps
[09:30] <dr_willis> I've used read command before however
[09:30] <itgold> it works if I start it from the existing terminal
[09:30] <itgold> but when I'm using "Run in Terminal" menu option it is getting ignored
[09:31] <itgold> dr_willis, so where to put that xterm thing?
[09:31] <dr_willis> make it a script or alias
[09:32] <itgold> xterm -e myScriptname.sh
[09:32] <itgold> like that?
[09:32] <dr_willis> or make a launcher for it
[09:32] <Antar> Hi
[09:32] <itgold> how to make a launcher?
[09:33] <Antar> is there any way to use xbacklight using keyboard keys
[09:33] <Antar> ??
[09:33] <dr_willis> copy gedit.desktop and edit it. itgold
[09:33] <itgold> ok, thank you
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> itgold: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[09:34] <dr_willis> you can define. keyboard shortcuts
[09:36] <itgold> lotuspsychje, thanks I'll look at it
[09:37] <itgold> dr_willis, funny with xterm it opens 2 terminal windows and then closes both
[09:38] <itgold> looks like what I really need is 'bash scriptName.sh'
[09:38] <[Gentoo]> are you trying to create a launcher for a script?
[09:38] <dr_willis> your script starts with.         #!/bin/bash?
[09:38] <itgold> yes
[09:39] <dr_willis> is it executable?
[09:39] <itgold> yes
[09:39] <itgold> it executes, my problem is that it closes the window and I cant see the results of execution
[09:39] <dr_willis> you. are doing something weird then..      try with a simple script
[09:40] <itgold> yes, sounds good
[09:40] <dr_willis> ls
[09:40] <dr_willis> read foo
[09:40] <itgold> ok
[09:40] <itgold> will comment out rsync for now
[09:49] <aries1200> hi, anyone who likes micrososft windows?
[09:50] <[Gentoo]> aries1200: ##windows for windows related stuff
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> [Gentoo]  ignore the the provocation
[09:55] <itgold> dr_willis, it works! thanks for your help
[09:55] <itgold> I've moved read -p into the separate function
[09:55] <itgold> and for some reason it is started to work
[09:56] <Carlos_Safety> anyone here use vimium for chrome, OT but worth a shot here.
[09:56] <[Gentoo]> Carlos_Safety: i have
[09:57] <Carlos_Safety> [Gentoo]: did u ever map 'jj' to esc?  or exit mode?  how did you clear 'f'  ?
[09:57] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[09:57] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[09:58] <raivito> hi
[09:59] <[Gentoo]> Carlos_Safety: neither i didnt like it that much
[09:59] <Carlos_Safety> [Gentoo]:  neither did i think i would at first, but damn, as man with a small laptop... its amazing.
[10:00] <Carlos_Safety> *a
[10:01] <Vlyn> ffs! The problem was the open source graphics driver
[10:01] <Vlyn> Well and of course it froze again mid install of the proprietary one, I got it but my window manager is broken xD
[10:01] <[Gentoo]> Carlos_Safety: have you ever tried uzbl? thats a good keyboard based browser too
[10:02] <Carlos_Safety> [Gentoo]: i'll check it our but because vim and vimiun... its so awesome. but what does that use to mapkeys?
[10:02] <Gr3mlin> anyone any good with connecting to ubuntu via OpenSSH and dealt with "Server refused our key" issues?
[10:03] <[Gentoo]> Carlos_Safety: you can remap but its similar to vim, also theres vimperator for firefox
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Gr3mlin
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Gr3mlin: you sure openssh server is up and running?
[10:04] <Carlos_Safety> [Gentoo]: good to know, what made you switch from vimium, the reason ,to uzbl?  or u just mouse browse now?
[10:05] <[Gentoo]> Carlos_Safety: i sometimes use keyboard ones but 99% i use the mouse
[10:05] <Gr3mlin> lotuspsychje: yupp, i've connected many times. i just cant get the key's to work, keeps saying 'NO!' and ive tried everything i have found on google. im about to just remove the password and leave the SSH open to the world! :S
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> Gr3mlin: did you try something else then putty to connect?
[10:08] <Gr3mlin> lotuspsychje: actually.. no i didnt.. looking now...
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> Gr3mlin: maybe this can help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=31168.0
[10:08] <Gr3mlin> lotuspsychje: been there. didnt help.
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> Gr3mlin: how about this1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306798/trying-to-do-ssh-authentication-with-key-files-server-refused-our-key
[10:10] <czoczoundo> Pomóżcie mi zdiagnozować, dlaczego monitor nie włącza się przy wychodzeniu ze wstrzymania.
[10:10] <czoczoundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5999100/
[10:11] <Gr3mlin> lotuspsychje: haha, yup, been there too
[10:12] <czoczoundo> My monitor won't turn on when leaving suspension mode.
[10:12] <czoczoundo> Please help me diagnose the cause.
[10:12] <czoczoundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5999100/
[10:14] <BlackDalek> does anyone here know how to get qjoypad to work in ubuntu 13.04?
[10:14] <Orlu> I dont know how to start but here goes nothing ;p, i got interested in Ubuntu because of my programming, i reckoned Ubuntu is a better option than W7 so i installed Ubuntu 13.04 64 bon a new partition ( yes i am dual booting ;p ) but for some reason, no matter which version i install, be it 32b or 64b, through USB bootable or CD, 13.04 or 13.10, as soon as i try to do something, like, open firefox and browse to a site, or start something i
[10:15] <pannix> #linode
[10:15] <Vlyn> holy shit, Ubuntu runs
[10:15] <Vlyn> After I butchered it up
[10:16] <Gr3mlin> just sudo rm -rv /* is that bad?
[10:16] <Orlu> the mouse cursor doesnt respond, sometimes after like 3-4 minutes it will move a little bit but then re-freezes, i tried numerous times looking it up on numerous sites but i cant seem to find a answer, can someone help me out here? =[
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> Gr3mlin  if you're not sure, then don't do it
[10:17] <Vlyn> Orlu: Right after start?
[10:17] <Vlyn> Or just general workflow?
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> Orlu: how about you look in your logs for errors and pastebin them
[10:17] <Gr3mlin> MonkeyDust: ;) im sure! ;D i did it out of frustration.
[10:18] <Orlu> lotuspsychje: ofcourse, that would be good to do but thats the whole problem :( as soon as i try to do anything it freezes so i cant even navigate to the logs =[
[10:18] <Vlyn> Btw. it's a joke that a GTX 580 is not supported by the "Nouveau" display driver.
[10:18] <Vlyn> Orlu: Display driver problem, just had it myself
[10:18] <Vlyn> Does it freeze right after login?
[10:18] <anonee> hello room, I know this is not the right place to ask this but I thought that maybe somebody can redirect me to the best place where I can work it out, I have a 256GB SSD and suddenly it shows as 2GB, it's a combo it can be connected through USB or SATA, and it shows as 2GB in both cases, any help would be highly appreciated.
[10:18] <Vlyn> About 30-60 seconds in?
[10:18] <Orlu> Vlyn:  well it doesnt freeze if i keep it the way it is after boot, as soon as i start to do something it freezes
[10:19] <Vlyn> Yeah, sounds like my problem
[10:19] <Vlyn> The Nouveau display driver is a piece of…
[10:19] <Orlu> Vlyn:  lolz i can imagine ;p
[10:19] <Vlyn> Now you only need to try to install the proprietary nvidia driver
[10:19] <Orlu> Vlyn:  but how can i replace it if the terminal also causes it to freeze? o.O
[10:19] <Vlyn> My first time around it froze during install, ugh
[10:19] <themanwithnoface> ok every time i quickly adjust my brightness on ubuntu via the F' keys , ubuntu freezes fatally. i have to hard reboot, any one have this?
[10:19] <Orlu> Vlyn:  argh, didnt have that one occur tho
[10:20] <Orlu> Vlyn:  did yours also freeze when trying ubuntu from bootable?
[10:20] <Vlyn> Orlu: Nah driver install
[10:20] <Vlyn> Not Ubuntu install
[10:20] <Orlu> Vlyn: ah, right :o
[10:20] <themanwithnoface> also for linux what's the protocol for freezes, how bad is a hard reboot?  what can u do on ubuntu besides hard reboot?
[10:21] <Vlyn> Well, I managed to install the driver with a try and error shotgun method. Kill Xorg, mess things up and then I had a half installed nvidia driver and a broken Unity xD
[10:21] <Vlyn> It works now but that was chaos :-(
[10:21] <Orlu> Vlyn:  i hope you dont mind me asking this, im new to ubuntu, how would i install new drivers?
[10:21] <Vlyn> okay, as soon as it starts hit the unity… how's it called? main button?
[10:21] <Vlyn> search for software & updates (do it fast before it freezes)
[10:21] <Orlu> Vlyn: lol i can imagine, i'm quite determined to get this to work so let me have it ;p
[10:21] <Vlyn> then the last tab is "additional drivers"
[10:22] <Vlyn> select one fron NVIDIA
[10:22] <Vlyn> forget about the version, the first install will kill itself (stupid freeze)
[10:22] <Orlu> Vlyn:  lol
[10:22] <lotuspsychje_> !language | Vlyn
[10:22] <Vlyn> Sorry :-) but Ubuntu just made me more problems than any other distro I ever tried
[10:23] <Orlu> ubottu:  sorry about that, he's having a hard time so forgive him ;p
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> Vlyn: for every trouble there's a solution...
[10:23] <Vlyn> Of course there is
[10:23] <Orlu> lotuspsychje:  ofcourse, thats certainly true but sometimes you'd rather have it work from boot rather than troubleshoot for 10 hours straight ;p
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> it's a matter of getting familiae
[10:23] <Vlyn> But if the standard driver (Nouveau) lets my system freeze on a Geforce GTX 580 then something is totally wrong
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> familiar*
[10:24] <Vlyn> A new linux user won't know how to fix that
[10:24] <Vlyn> Also this is new, I never had this problem before on the same PC with Ubuntu
[10:24] <Orlu> Vlyn:  lol oke now im convinced we have the same problem, i run a GTX 580 too ;d
[10:24] <Vlyn> rofl
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> Vlyn: on what ubuntu version are you?
[10:24] <Vlyn> 13.04 I think, the newest one
[10:24] <Vlyn> And the problem was Nouveau, with the NVIDIA driver it works
[10:25] <Orlu> so Vlyn  did you get it to work? is it stable now?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> Vlyn: you got same issue on 12.04 LTS?
[10:25] <Vlyn> Didn't try but I think so, the standard driver lets it freeze
[10:25] <Vlyn> Well I tried with a live usb stick
[10:25] <Vlyn> But not full install
[10:25] <Vlyn> Orlu: It runs
[10:26] <Orlu> hold on, coming on android so i can stay on, rofl ;p
[10:26] <Vlyn> Yeah, good idea :D
[10:26] <Vlyn> Orlu: My method of installing is not really a nice one (because it will freeze *sigh*) but the only one I know how to do
[10:27] <Orlu> oh btw, i dont mean to troll or anything but, what is the difference between 13.04 and 13.10 other than the GUI?
[10:27] <Orlu> Vlyn:  np mate, aslong as it gets the job done i'll vote you for president! rofl
[10:27] <Vlyn> Orlu: So when Ubuntu starts, login, go to the main button, search for software, go to last tab (prop. drivers), select an NVIDIA driver, hit Apply Changes, put in your password and let it install
[10:27] <Orlu> omw right now, you keep chatting im on with droid
[10:30] <Johnny_Linux> im on my wireless toaster
[10:31] <isasha> yo
[10:31] <isasha> I kinda screwed something up and I don't know what I did
[10:31] <isasha> I can no longer login into ubuntu, and the trackpad doesn't work
[10:31] <isasha> I reset the password from the root shell, but I still can't login...
[10:31] <Orlu_> vlyn: when i search for software it displays 3 options, software and updates, ubuntu software center and software update
[10:31] <OnkelTem> I have two physical monitors and radeon card. Currently both monitors display the picture. How can I change this?
[10:31] <Vlyn> Orlu_:"software & updates"
[10:31] <OnkelTem> the *same* picture
[10:32] <Orlu_> right, its updating now, cant choose nvidia just yet
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | OnkelTem
[10:33] <bekks> isasha: Check wether your disk is full.
[10:33] <isasha> 71% left
[10:33] <bekks> isasha: On which filesystem?
[10:33] <isasha> ext4
[10:34] <bekks> isasha: Pastebin the entire output of df -h please
[10:34] <isasha> bekks: http://pastebin.com/FSm4H4Mr
[10:35] <isasha> I'm dual booting os x and ubuntu on my macbook
[10:35] <bekks> isasha: And the output of "lsb_release -a" please.
[10:35] <Orlu_> vlyn its updating, gimme a min ;p
[10:35] <Vlyn> I bet it's freezing during the update :D
[10:35] <isasha> bekks: I'm on mac :/
[10:36] <Vlyn> If not you're lucky
[10:36] <isasha> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[10:36] <Orlu_> vlyn actually its going smooth ;p
[10:36] <OnkelTem> lotuspsychje: read it, thanks. Two questions: 1) is there a GUI way for configuring this? 2) I have not xorg.conf
[10:36] <OnkelTem> no*
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> isasha  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[10:37] <isasha> cat: /etc/issue: No such file or directory
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> isasha  are you in ubuntu now?
[10:37] <isasha> no, mac os x
[10:37] <isasha> I can't boot into ubuntu, doesn't let me login
[10:38] <Orlu_> Vlyn: so after update i restart it and thats that?
[10:38] <bekks> isasha: You can, since you used a root shell to reset your password.
[10:38] <Vlyn> ehh yes
[10:38] <isasha> yes
[10:38] <Vlyn> If the update is done just restart
[10:38] <isasha> and I tried to login, to no avail
[10:38] <isasha> with the new passwd
[10:38] <bekks> isasha: So what exactly did you do to reset your password?
[10:39] <isasha> I used the root shel from the recovery menu
[10:39] <Orlu_> Vlyn: roger, its booting
[10:39] <Vlyn> Orlu_: It should now work without freezing ^^
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> isasha  reset password? new password? to do what?
[10:39] <Vlyn> Then you can maybe look at the driver versions and install the newest one or the stable one (if you selected per random)
[10:39] <isasha> so that I can login… I couldn't login with my existing password
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> isasha  and you're sure the password was the issue?
[10:40] <Orlu_> Vlyn: it froze, so to check drivers i search for software again?
[10:41] <isasha> well… quite sure
[10:41] <bekks> isasha: Why?
[10:41] <Vlyn> Orlu_: Hmm… well yeah, Software & Updates, last tab
[10:41] <isasha> but for some reason, the keyboard input was very slow and the mouse didn't respond
[10:41] <isasha> so maybe I just broke something :/
[10:41] <bekks> isasha: Did you investigate the .xsession-errors and the other logs too?
[10:41] <isasha> nop
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> isasha  was num lock active whan you entered the password? was shift lock not active?
[10:42] <isasha> caps lock definitely off, i don't have a numlock key on my keyboard
[10:42] <Orlu_> Vlyn: im there, its empty o.O, is that correct?
[10:42] <isasha> regardless it would have told me if that was the case, no?
[10:42] <Vlyn> Orlu_: No?
[10:42] <Vlyn> Do you use a freshly installed Ubuntu version?
[10:43] <Orlu_> Vlyn: for sure, i can reformat and reinstall if you like?
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> isasha  now it's still new, try reinstalling ubuntu and not forget or mistype the password this time
[10:43] <Vlyn> Orlu_: It should look like this: http://i.imgur.com/mI1w36n.png
[10:44] <Orlu_> vlyn: meh it doesnt, its empty o.O
[10:44] <isasha> I found this in .xsession-errors: "debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied"
[10:44] <Vlyn> O.o
[10:44] <Vlyn> Oh wait!
[10:44] <Vlyn> You didn't check download additional content at the installation?
[10:45] <isasha> I am quite certain that I remembered both passwords correctly, after all, they worked this morning before I restarted after applying updates
[10:45] <Vlyn> + maybe the second checkbox for proprietary software?
[10:45] <Orlu_> Vlyn: its checked
[10:46] <bekks> isasha: you can ignore that message. It has nothing to do with your password.
[10:46] <isasha> ok
[10:46] <bekks> isasha: So check the other logs.
[10:46] <isasha> should I upload the whole log, or are there personal bits of info in it?
[10:46] <Vlyn> Orlu_: I have no clue, sorry
[10:47] <Vlyn> Orlu_: You could try to open the software center and search for additional drivers
[10:47] <bekks> isasha: you could take a look yourself.
[10:47] <Vlyn> Orlu_: "Ubuntu Software Center" (orange bag icon) → search "Additional Drivers"
[10:48] <Vlyn> Maybe that's not installed (would be strange but okay)
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Vlyn: you have nvidia-settings to config your card?
[10:48] <siva_> hi everyone...
[10:48] <Vlyn> lotuspsychje: ye… eh just wanted to start it, error :D
[10:48] <Vlyn> well, let's say basically yes
[10:50] <anonee> hello, my 256GB SSD suddenly shows as 2GB in the disk utility. any idea about how to attempt to repair it? which tools to use?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> anonee: try ##hardware for hardware questions
[10:51] <anonee> thank you lotuspsychje
[10:51] <bekks> anonee: Check sudo fdisk -l; if it doesnt show as 256GB, then its broken.
[10:51] <Orlu_> Vlyn: retrying
[10:52] <Guest70406> I installed 13.04 last night..but it for ubuntu it takes only 10gb of space..now my problem is how to extend the space for ubuntu
[10:52] <anonee> bekks I don't wanna believe it's broken :D
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> anonee: you used full disk for ubuntu on your ssd?
[10:52] <bekks> anonee: Then dont believe, but face the truth :)
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Guest70406
[10:53] <Guest70406> sorry i am not getting what you said please clarify clearly
[10:53] <anonee> lotuspsychje no, there's no ubuntu installation on this SSD
[10:54] <bekks> anonee: Then its not even an ubuntu problem, isnt it?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> Guest70406: install gparted to work with your partitions
[10:54] <Guest70406> i have windows also....dual boot..will it effect my windows
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> Guest70406: you using same hd for ubuntu as your windows?
[10:55] <anonee> bekks no, I just asked the question in the hardware room, thanks to lotuspsychje and thank you too
[10:55] <Guest70406> yes
[10:55] <Guest70406> first i installed windows
[10:55] <Antar> Hi
[10:56] <Orlu_> Vlyn: installing additional drivers
[10:56] <Antar> What is the equivalent of inittab on ubuntu ?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> Guest70406: if you expand ubuntu, less space you can expand on windows, but wont affect your system
[10:56] <Vlyn> Orlu_: I hope this works
[10:56] <Guest70406> lotuspsychje, ok ok how to deal with getparted
[10:57] <bekks> Guest70406: gparted, not getparted.
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> Guest70406: sudo apt-get install gparted from terminal
[10:57] <Orlu_> Vlyn: let alone me! rofl xd
[10:57] <Antar> can any one answer me
[10:57] <Magentium> Good Morning, Afternoon etc :)
[10:57] <Guest70406> i installed it ..now how to run it and how to make partitions
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> Guest70406: resize your ubuntu partition
[10:58] <Guest70406> how
[10:59] <bekks> !gparted
[10:59] <Vlyn> Orlu_: brb restarting
[10:59] <Orlu_> Vlyn: oke now i can select Nvidia Binary xorg driver to install
[11:00] <maddeth> Guest70406: run sudo gparted from terminal, or look for it in the menu :)
[11:00] <bekks> maddeth: Never run a graphical application with sudo. Always use gksudo instead.
[11:01] <Guest70406> maddeth, i already opened it  now..how to resize the ubuntu partition it is not giving me the option
[11:01] <bekks> Guest70406: BEcause your Ubuntu partition is currently mounted.
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:01] <maddeth> bekks: not used to running from gui ;) sorry :D
[11:02] <Guest70406> bekks,ok what to do next
[11:02] <bekks> Guest70406: if you are currently running Ubuntu, and started gparted from there: you have to download the gparted live cd and boot from it.
[11:03] <Orlu_> Vlyn: its using 310.44 drivers
[11:03] <Guest70406> bekks,ok after that
[11:04] <bekks> Guest70406: Before that, backup the entire disk. After that boot the live cd and resize the ubuntu partition.
[11:04] <Orlu_> vlyn_: it works!
[11:04] <Orlu_> youre a hero mate
[11:05] <Vlyn_> Orlu_: Nice
[11:05] <Guest70406> bekks , entire disk means my whole hard disk 320 gb
[11:05] <Vlyn_> Well I had to solve that thing about 20 minutes earlier xD
[11:05] <bekks> Guest70406: You said your disk is 256GB.
[11:06] <Guest70406> bekks,what ever i have to back up the whole disk
[11:06] <bekks> Guest70406: Correct.
[11:06] <Guest70406> bekks,how it will be possible yarr
[11:07] <bekks> !backup | Guest70406
[11:12] <pac1> I have  a partition that I mount under /home/pac1/work.  pac1 owns all the files in the partition, but the partition itself mounts as root.  How do I get the owner to be pac1?
[11:13] <zetheroo> file manager windows are completely frozen ... what to do? I do not want to log out or reboot as I have a DVDrip job running ...
[11:13] <bekks> zetheroo: Then you have to wait.
[11:13] <zetheroo> bekks: why is that? Everything else works pretty much ...
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  alt-f2 > xkill > click on frozen window
[11:15] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: the cursor becomes an x and I click on the nautilus window .. but they don't close ...
[11:16] <pac1> try ctrl/alt-f2 to get a login window.  log in and kill the process that's frozen (hope its not the dvd rip) ctrl/alt-f7 to get back to X
[11:17] <zetheroo1> I was trying to mount a network share when nautilus froze
[11:17] <Guest70406> is there any better option
[11:17] <mcnesium> when i do ls -la i have one „file“ that has srw-rw---- in the first column. what does the s stand for?
[11:17] <bekks> Guest70406: No.
[11:18] <bekks> Guest70406: Backup everything, since you might lose it. If you dont backup, your data is not worth being kept.
[11:18] <Guest70406> bekks,back up is difficult na we may loss data....
[11:18] <bekks> Guest70406: You cant lose data when backing up.
[11:18] <Guest70406> bekks, ok where i can back up my data
[11:18] <PoolShark_> bekks: yes you can, but only if you use /dev/null as your backup device :p
[11:19] <bekks> Guest70406: Wherever you have enough space.
[11:19] <zetheroo1> is there any way to find out what is causing nautilus to hang?
[11:19] <bekks> zetheroo1: It was a timeout on mounting the network share.
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo1  the dvd rip is using a lot of mem, i guess
[11:20] <zetheroo1> bekks: the nautilus window still shows the share highlighted ... like it's still trying to mount it ...
[11:20] <bekks> zetheroo1: Then its a timeout on mounting.
[11:21] <jrib> mcnesium: socket.  See « info ls »
[11:21] <zetheroo1> can I kill whatever process is causing nautilus to hang?
[11:21] <bekks> zetheroo1: The process is nautilus.
[11:21] <zetheroo1> bekks: but I cannot find a process called nautilus running
[11:22] <zetheroo1> zeth@zeth-ThinkPad-R61:~$ ps aux | grep nautilus
[11:22] <zetheroo1> zeth      9832  0.0  0.0   9436   948 pts/0    S+   13:21   0:00 grep --color=auto nautilus
[11:22] <mcnesium> jrib: ok. it has the name of a byobu session that used to run before the server restarted. can i restart that session with the socket file somehow?
[11:22] <bekks> zetheroo1: You shouldnt kill processes unless you know what you are doing there.
[11:22] <jrib> mcnesium: I doubt it.  But I don't know if byobu does something special to allow that
[11:23] <zetheroo1> bekks: obviously ... ;) ... but if nautilus is not running then what's causing the nautilus windows to hang?
[11:24] <bekks> zetheroo1: The network timeout.
[11:24] <sjow> How do I add a second monitor  in xorg.conf?
[11:24] <zetheroo1> bekks: wouldn't disconnecting and reconnecting the connection to the network reset that/
[11:24] <zetheroo1> ?
[11:25] <bekks> zetheroo1: Nope.
[11:25] <zetheroo1> bekks: besides once the timeout is reached it should not hang - that is precisely what timeouts are for - no!?
[11:25] <bekks> zetheroo1: Yeah.
[11:25] <bekks> zetheroo1: Those timeouts can be very long ;)
[11:26] <zetheroo1> bekks: so is there any way to find out which process is responsible for the timeout and kill it ?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | sjow
[11:27] <sjow> It's just that my primary screen I had to edit in the xorg to get working, but that dosen't matter?
[11:29] <sjow> ubottu: It's just that my primary screen I had to edit in the xorg to get working, but that dosen't matter?
[11:30] <PoolShark_> good morning
[11:31] <sinkensabe> anyone have a good tip on a calendar app working with google calendar? I'm on 12.04 LTS
[11:31] <bekks> firefox :)
[11:31] <sinkensabe> mm true, maybe i will just settle with the browser then ^^
[11:34] <john_rambo> In order to login to ubuntuforums one needs a Ubuntu One acoount now ?
[11:35] <ikonia> john_rambo: I don't believe so
[11:35] <john_rambo> ikonia: So if I enter my old username and password will it work ?
[11:36] <ikonia> john_rambo: yes, and they advise you to change your password due to the recent incident
[11:36] <john_rambo> ikonia: OKay ...trying again
[11:53] <JoTraGo> sinkensabe - are you aware of the lightning calendar plugin for Firefox. It can synch directly with Google Calendar
[11:55] <_X_> hello. is it possible to unlock all devices in /etc/crypttab before the rootfs is mounted?
[12:03] <lux_2> hi
[12:03] <lux_2> i've got issues with lirc. i've recorded a config file with irrecord and set driver+device in hardware.conf, but i still don't see keypresses with irw :/
[12:11] <z8z> virtualbox package actually doesn't diable internal VM access to physical localhost by firewall rules?
[12:12] <z8z> VM can access localhost? very big security issue isn't it?
[12:12] <entreri> how i install gnome 3 ?
[12:12] <bekks> z8z: Define "internal vm access" first.
[12:13] <wiak> z8z well localhost is no security risk
[12:14] <z8z> bekks: i explained.... why a VM can access physical localhost?
[12:14] <sinkensabe> JoTraGo: looks good thanks
[12:14] <bekks> z8z: You didn not explain how a vm would access the physical localhost.
[12:15] <z8z> wiak: well i can see many security issue on that.... i have apache configured to surf webfolders and an infected VM can access those
[12:16] <bekks> z8z: With having correct permissions on your webserver, no "surfer" can access the files due to read-only access.
[12:17] <z8z> bekks: so having physical machine visible from outside without a firewall checking is fair?
[12:18] <bekks> z8z: The vm is just another box on your local LAN - so it can see whatever other boxes can see.
[12:18] <z8z> bekks: my webfolder is properly configured but in order to have a confortable usage for development testing some of the option are activated
[12:19] <z8z> bekks: nope other pc in lan can see my pc trough the firewall... VM is direct access to localhost
[12:19] <bekks> z8z: Then setup a firewall rule if you are uncomfortable with it.
[12:20] <usr13> z8z: It is normal to have direct access to localhost
[12:20] <z8z> bekks: of course i have already done but my point was about a noob user installing the package and being exposed without knowing it
[12:21] <usr13> z8z: But... not sure what "direct access to localhost" really means ;)
[12:21] <usr13> z8z: Exactly what is "exposed"?
[12:21] <jhonnyboii> hi i have an problem i know is easy to fix
[12:22] <jhonnyboii> how do i find transmission from firefox, when choosing to open with?
[12:22] <holos2> Andchat ap is working good
[12:22] <bekks> z8z: Please explain "direct vm access to localhost" again - what exactly are you doing in your guest to access the host's localhost?
[12:22] <jhonnyboii> where is transmission stored in filesystem?
[12:22] <usr13> jhonnyboii: /usr/bin/firefox
[12:23] <usr13> jhonnyboii: ( which firefox )
[12:23] <usr13> jhonnyboii: "transmission"?
[12:23] <z8z> usr13: a shared folder of local area network can be seen from outside
[12:23] <jhonnyboii> in my home folder its not a folder called bin
[12:23] <bekks> z8z: A shared folder is considered to be seen. Otherwise it wouldnt be shared.
[12:24] <usr13> z8z: It is your LAN, configure it as *you* see fit.
[12:25] <z8z> bekks: a shared folder in local lan is supposed to be seen by local computer not entire world
[12:25] <usr13> z8z: Define "shared folder".
[12:26] <z8z> usr13: ????? a samba shared folder?
[12:26] <bekks> z8z: A shared folder is considered to be seen as *you* configure it. If you configure it to be seen by everyone - thats how it is seen then.
[12:26] <ikonia> define "the whole world"
[12:26] <mainmeister> Most NAT routers will block lan access through the LAN port
[12:26] <mainmeister> sorry WAN port
[12:26] <bekks> z8z: And vbox does not use samba shared folders at all.
[12:26] <usr13> z8z: http://www.samba.org/
[12:27] <z8z> bekks: i think you are not understanding what i'm talking about
[12:27] <logical_> hy everyone, I have a problem with my wireless, I can see wireless networks but not my wireless netowork, at this moment i am connected to wireless with usb wireless adapter, any advice? (new user of linux)
[12:27] <bekks> z8z: Then rephrase it please.
[12:27] <ikonia> z8z: explain clearly
[12:27] <mainmeister> logical: is your router set up to broadcast it's SSID?
[12:27] <z8z> bekks: ok i'll try again.... i have 2 pc in local lan and i want to do my own business inside of it
[12:28] <logical_> mainmeister: i dont know what does that mean xD, yesterday i reinstalled ubuntu on my pc, before that my wireless worked perfectly
[12:28] <z8z> bekks: so i just share a folder trough samba to be seen by the other pc restricted to local network
[12:28] <ikonia> z8z: ok, so what's the problem ?
[12:29] <logical_> it is not a problem with the router
[12:29] <z8z> z8z: even because i'm behind a router without any NAT configured
[12:29] <OnkelTem> How can I add all standard ubuntu settings to System Settings? Currently I have only 4-5 icons there. No sound, no display preferences - nothing
[12:29] <bekks> z8z: Ok, so when does the problem you are talking about arises?
[12:30] <OnkelTem> What can I install to populate System Settings?
[12:30] <z8z> ikonia: so i open a VM which can be infected and that VM can read local samba shared folder because having direct access to localhost bypass  router of course
[12:30] <mainmeister> logical: the WIFI uses a protocol that allows discovery of local connection points using a method where each access point openly broadcasts it's name (SSID). For security reasons you can disable the SSID broadcast on the router.
[12:30] <logical_> ok i will try to connect to router to check that
[12:30] <usr13> z8z: "infected"?   Can you restate that last post?
[12:30] <bekks> z8z: Which networking mode do you use in the vm settings?
[12:30] <ikonia> z8z: do you mean your vbox guest can access the samba share on the physical host ?
[12:31] <z8z> ikonia: yes
[12:31] <mainmeister> logical: this would be set in the router on it's WIFI settings web page.
[12:31] <ikonia> z8z: ok - so that is because YOU have bridged the VM to your local network
[12:31] <z8z> usr13: yes infected because i use it to test software which contains keygen and other so will be sure infected or soon
[12:31] <ikonia> z8z: that is still private on your local LAN - and going no-where else
[12:32] <ikonia> another guy and "wares" pathetic
[12:32] <ikonia> at that point, I'm out
[12:32] <bekks> And that behaviour is intended for bridging, according to chapter 6 of the vbox manual.
[12:32] <bekks> bridging means: "make this vm behave like another computer in the local LAN of the host".
[12:32] <logical_> mainmeister: Hide SSID is set to No
[12:32] <z8z> ikonia: what do you mean?
[12:32] <bekks> Obviously, it can access everything in the local LAN just like every other box in the local LAN.
[12:32] <ikonia> z8z: you're testing illegal keygen/wares
[12:32] <z8z> ikonia: wares what?
[12:33] <z8z> ikonia: yes
[12:33] <bekks> z8z: Did you read my last posts.
[12:33] <ikonia> z8z: yes, so I'm not refusing to help any more as I'm not helping you with illegal wares/keygens
[12:33] <ikonia> buy the software - then you don't need illegal keygens
[12:33] <logical_> mainmeister: the wireless was working perfectly 1 day ago, before I Reinstalled ubuntu...
[12:34] <z8z> ikonia: ???? are you ok?
[12:34] <logical_> When i reinstalled ubuntu the wireless card was not working i had to set my wifi card mannually to work
[12:34] <ikonia> z8z: I'm fine
[12:34] <bekks> z8z: Did you read my last posts about bridging in vbox?
[12:34] <z8z> bekks: yes i'm making some tests now thanks
[12:35] <mainmeister> logical: well, that's all I can think of that would hide the SSID from showing up on your list of available connection points. I guess it could be buggy WIFI driver code for the WIFI adapter you are using. Any chance you can try a different WIFI adapter (different manufacturer/chipset)?
[12:35] <z8z> ikonia: look like you are in anger with like :D
[12:35] <bekks> z8z: You should read chapter 6 of the vbox manual, instead of testing.
[12:35] <ikonia> z8z: no at all.
[12:35] <z8z> bekks: i will.... and thank you so much!
[12:36] <logical_> mainmeister: at this moment i am using an USB wifi adapter so i can chat with you, he can see the wirless and works flawless
[12:36] <bekks> z8z: Good luck with whatever you are going to do with your warez - I am out of future issues with that for you, for the same reason as ikonia stated.
[12:37] <mainmeister> Yes, so it's most likely a driver issue with the other WIFI adapter
[12:37] <logical_> how do i remmeber last time i had this problem  i just put in some code in terminal for the wifi driver card to be non propiratery or something like that
[12:37] <usr13> z8z: Again, it is *your* LAN, configure it as *you* see fit.  What you describe are network issues.  Your concerns may be legitimate but they are simply network issues.  Network security is up to the sysop, if you are the sysop, look into installing a firewall that will give you the protection you need.  You might also ask a few questions on ##networking
[12:38] <z8z> bekks: i use linux since 15 years and dunno what's wrong with you if i download small tools to give to some people i know that need to use one in life
[12:38] <mainmeister> Ubuntu has a package you can install for 3rd party drivers. I don't remember what it's called as i don't use it. Could try that.
[12:38] <bekks> z8z: I'm perfectly ok. I just not going to support you when your "small tools" are warez.
[12:38] <z8z> z8z: you look like reached a massive nerd mode atm
[12:38] <logical_> will try, thx for your time mainmeister
[12:39] <mainmeister> Any way, good luck, I am leaving the channel to have my breakfast.
[12:39] <bekks> z8z: And, in addition, I dont care about how long you are using linux at all.
[12:39] <logical_> cya
[12:39] <z8z> bekks: useful information to understand i don't give a shit to warez cause i don't need
[12:40] <bekks> z8z: You admitted you do use them in your "infected vm". Please refer to the backlog and what you told us.
[12:40] <usr13> z8z: A dd-wrt router might be what you want/need.
[12:40] <bekks> z8z: I consider this discussion to be pointless, and EOD.
[12:41] <z8z> bekks: :D looool yes in order to test those i have to double click you know? .... this is how you open apps in windows :D
[12:41] <kemon_boka> #english
[12:42] <jubei> could somebody give me some advice on external monitors? I have a projector connected to my ubuntu but I Only see 2 modes 640x480 being the highest whereas the projector displays much higher
[12:42] <johnd_> Hi. Networking question. I'm not massively confident configuring my system's network, and I'd like to re-run that helpful wizard that you get at startup. Is this possible? I'm accessing via serial port so no GUI.
[12:42] <usr13> jubei: xrandr
[12:42] <johnd_> the wizard you get at installation I mean
[12:42] <jubei> user, xrandr also only shows 2 modes
[12:42] <jubei> usr13, *
[12:42] <ikonia> jubei: you may have to force or hardcode it's resolution if it's not offering the right info bia edid
[12:42] <usr13> jubei: Or, if you have a GUI app, use it.
[12:43] <jubei> usr13, the gui app of ubuntu only shows those two modes soo.. I need to somehow force the new mode
[12:43] <usr13> jubei: You will not force a new mode.  See xrandr
[12:44] <usr13> jubei: xrandr will show you all available screen size options.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> johnd_, that wizard is a gui  , afaik
[12:45] <johnd_> BluesKaj: there's one that uses curses
[12:45] <usr13> jubei: (But xrandr more-than-likely will not show you any more than the GUI app.)
[12:45] <z8z> bekks: anyway it was amazing how upset everyone became just because once after 10 years i'm doing a favor to my friend testing for him an app and found this issue just installing VM
[12:45] <johnd_> BluesKaj: otherwise how would aynone be doing text mode installs?
[12:46] <usr13>               troll alert
[12:46] <z8z> bekks: i guess too much pc and few girls made you a bit stressed... take a vacation
[12:46] <BluesKaj> johnd_, the alternate installs are no longer available
[12:46] <johnd_> BluesKaj: wow really? so you can't install without a graphical monitor?
[12:47] <widad> plz need help! i can't install anything from my Ubuntu repository. when i click on install it reports me a bugs report and close. how can i fix it please?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> johnd_, only if you upgrade the OS using do-release over the 'net
[12:48] <BluesKaj> widad, pastebin the errors
[12:48] <bekks> z8z: Dont get personal or you'll get on my ignore list immediately.
[12:49] <ikonia> !gudelines | z8z read these before speaking again please.
[12:49] <ikonia> !guidelines | z8z read these before speaking again please.
[12:50] <widad> BluesKaj, ok wait a moment plz
[12:50] <grimeton> what does one have to put into $DESKTOP to connect to the local X-session?
[12:50] <grimeton> :0.0?
[12:52] <widad> BluesKaj, it says "application ubuntu software center has undergone an internal error. An error occurred while sending the transaction / usr / share / software-center / software-center"
[12:52] <z8z> bekks: i'm very good person and i let anyone live without annoying but when people raise problem on those stupid issues really makes me feel like they never faced real problems in their life
[12:53] <ikonia> z8z: final warning - follow the guidelines of this channel
[12:53] <BluesKaj> widad, open a terminal , sudo apt-getupdate;sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:53] <BluesKaj> oops  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , widad
[12:54] <widad> BluesKaj, it is done correctly i did it before
[12:55] <z8z> ikonia: no problem leaving by myself... i activated antinerd scanner and in 1 second is going to close this channel
[12:55] <z8z> bye
[12:56] <widad> BluesKaj, sudo apt-get update => 471 ko réceptionnés en 17s (26,3 ko/s)
[12:56] <widad> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[12:56] <widad>   | sudo apt-get upgrade => 0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 287 non mis à jour.
[12:57] <widad> BluesKaj, oh sorry i'll translate
[12:58] <BluesKaj> widad, understiood , my french is ok
[12:58] <widad> BluesKaj, ok sorry
[13:00] <gitesh> How do I play with PL/SQL on Ubuntu?
[13:01] <ikonia> install pl/sql client and then connect to an oracle database
[13:01] <BluesKaj> widad, looks l;ike the software center has an issue , try synaptic  instead
[13:01] <blazemore> gitesh: Install a local SQL server
[13:02] <widad> BluesKaj, synaptic? what's that?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> widad, it's a package manager
[13:02] <BluesKaj> !synaptic | widad
[13:02] <gitesh> where is local sql server for Ubuntu?
[13:02] <widad> is it preinstalled on ubuntu?
[13:03] <blazemore> gitesh: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/mysql.html
[13:03] <blazemore> widad: No, it used to be, but it's not any more
[13:03] <bekks> gitesh: You have to installl one. mysql, postgresql, etc.
[13:03] <widad> so i have to download it
[13:03] <BluesKaj> widad, it's in the repositories , sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:03] <gitesh> and what about PL/SQL? because it's mysql,postgre, etc.
[13:04] <ikonia> gitesh: they don't use pl/sql
[13:04] <ikonia> you really need an oracle database to use pl/sql
[13:04] <bekks> postgres implemented pl/sql too.
[13:04] <widad> BluesKaj, thanks
[13:04] <ikonia> bekks: I though pssql was different from pl/sql
[13:04] <ikonia> I thought it was a subset
[13:05] <bekks> ikonia: with 8.1 at least, they implemented a subset.
[13:05] <blazemore> gitesh: You could take a look at this, which I found by Googling "PL/ SQL Ubuntu" http://mikesmithers.wordpress.com/2011/02/19/installing-plsqldeveloper-under-wine-in-ubuntu/
[13:05] <bekks> ikonia: But yes, for the full set of PL/SQL, one needs an Oracle RDBMS.
[13:06] <gitesh> under wine? than I would go with Client-Server based.
[13:06] <esing> hello
[13:06] <bekks> gitesh: Oracle RDBMS will not run under Wine.
[13:06] <bekks> gitesh: There is a linux version.
[13:07] <bekks> gitesh: But you need a certified linux OS, since Ubuntu isnt certified by Oracle.
[13:07] <ikonia> gitesh: I suspect you haven't really done any real research on this
[13:07] <ikonia> gitesh: why do you want pl/sql ?
[13:07] <esing> Is it still required to add the module 'rt2870sta' (driver of my wlan stick within the linux kernel) in /etc/modules or is it meanwhile loaded automatically?
[13:07] <esing> I read it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin%20F5D8053
[13:08] <gitesh> ikonia: I want to play with it on Ubuntu, because I like Linux, but Oracle sucks! in this way.
[13:08] <esing> (I have ubuntu 13.10)
[13:08] <ikonia> gitesh: err Oracle make pl/sql - so I don't know how you can want it but say Oracle sucks
[13:09] <ikonia> seems a bit of a stupid thing to say
[13:10] <gitesh> hmm...
[13:11] <ikonia> I suspect you really have no idea what you want/need and appear to have done no rsearch on this, hence "oracle sucks" when it's Oracle who make the product you want
[13:11] <saki`> hey all
[13:11] <maddeth> gitesh: if you want to play with databases just play with mysql
[13:11] <maddeth> Hi saki`
[13:11] <saki`> hey maddeth
[13:11] <gitesh> I want simple, running pl/sql queries on Ubuntu.
[13:11] <ikonia> gitesh: against wha t?
[13:12] <ikonia> gitesh: what database do you want it against,
[13:12] <bekks> gitesh: then install Oracle RDBMS on a certified platform.
[13:12] <ikonia> gitesh: the only database that uses pl/sql fully is Oracle....but you've just blindly said "oracle sucks" after saying you want it
[13:12] <gitesh> against anything, that 's better.
[13:12] <BluesKaj> esing, my experience with that driver was good with WICD , not so good with network manager
[13:12] <ikonia> gitesh: anything that's better ??
[13:12] <bekks> gitesh: There is no "better" in software.
[13:12] <ikonia> gitesh: have you done any research, it' an Oracle product - for Oracle databases
[13:13] <bekks> gitesh: Clear up your requirements, do research on it, and use the software that meets your requirements.
[13:13] <gitesh> ikonia: from few days, I have been searching for Oracle version for linux.
[13:13] <gitesh> bekks: ok.
[13:14] <ikonia> gitesh: seems like you are unable to do basic searches
[13:14] <bekks> gitesh: With a few clicks, you get the requirements for Oracle RDBMS, stating which linux distros are to be used.
[13:14] <bekks> gitesh: You didnt do that basic research yet.
[13:14] <ikonia> s/basic/any
[13:15] <saki`> i'm hoping to start an internet radio station, and am a complete noob at all this. i've tested out my required software and stuff on my desktop, but now i wanna take the plunge and start tinkering with a VPS. found a provider (flipperhost) that suits my needs also.
[13:15] <esing> BluesKaj, Do I have to specifically load the driver manually in /etc/modules or will it be loaded automatically?
[13:16] <saki`> i was hoping i could ask one of you guys if you knew any books about ubuntu server administration that i could read that would teach me the basics?
[13:16] <ikonia> saki`: https://help.ubuntu.com
[13:16] <bekks> gitesh: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/install.112/e24321/pre_install.htm#CHDFFBIF -- 30s research.
[13:17] <jrib> saki`: the server guide at http://help.ubuntu.com is a good start.  Also check out the rute book (some parts are outdated for ubuntu) and be sure to read the official documentation for the software you are using
[13:17] <saki`> oh sorry! i figured it'd be a bit more complicated than that.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> esing, I don't recall having to load the driver manually
[13:19] <gitesh> well, do you know any University providing pl/sql courses online?  such as Harvard, Standford, MIT, etc.
[13:20] <bekks> gitesh: There is none. Oracle provides all the documentation needed, as well as certifications.
[13:21] <gitesh> ok.
[13:22] <gitesh> If there is an OS called Oracle Linux, I must start Oracle now:-)
[13:22] <gitesh> *loving
[13:23] <bekks> gitesh: There is. Provided by Oracle. Guess why they name it in their requirements.
[13:24] <Dmole> Question: how does the "64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop image" differ from the "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image" ?
[13:24] <Dmole> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:24] <esing> BluesKaj, Hm, I added the driver manually to /etc/modules, blacklisted my internal wifi card, rebooted and now it works fine
[13:24] <bekks> Dmole: One is for Mac, one for PC.
[13:24] <Daekdroom> Dmole, the Mac image has support for (U)EFI, as far as I remember.
[13:24] <gitesh> Wallah! Lovely Oracle:-http://www.oracle.com/us/assets/im08t0-flat-67409-oralelinux1-1601570.jpg
[13:24] <Dmole> Thanks Daekdroom
[13:25] <bekks> Dmole: Since 12.04.2, the PC image supports UEFI too.
[13:25] <gitesh> Thanks you so much all:)  I found the path to go.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> esing, cool :)
[13:26] <FiremanEd> Dumb question: What's the key commands to start GRUB at boot before it starts?
[13:27] <Dmole> normally grub will let you in on "any key" press
[13:28] <Dmole> bekks: so if it's not (U)EFI any idea what the difference is?
[13:28] <DJones> FiremanEd: Do you mean to get the Grub menu up on screen? Press and hold down the left shift keey (it may be a case of repeatedly pressing it while the machine starts powering up)
[13:28] <RayWizard> i have a lot of chrome processes, is it possible to limit all them not to use more than 50% cpu, or something?
[13:28] <bekks> Dmole: One is designed to specifically run on Macs, the other one isnt.
[13:28] <FiremanEd> thanks Dmole, DJones, that's it.  Much appreciated
[13:29] <bekks> Dmole: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[13:31] <Grey_Loki> Hi, in 12.04, I have everything working nicely. When I reboot, all of my USB devices power off and won't come back on at the login screen. Unplugging and then replugging my keyboard fixes my keyboard and mouse, and replugging my wireless receiver fixes that as well. What's going on?
[13:31] <Grey_Loki> And, more importantly, how can I fix it? :D
[13:32] <jay> anyone knows about joomla's install ?
[13:37] <jesusemelendezm> hi there
[13:37] <jesusemelendezm> good morning
[13:39] <moza> Hello, is there a specific place to get help with orca, the screen reader that i am trying to use under ubuntu?
[13:43] <DJones> moza: You could try #ubuntu-accessibility although I think that is a very quiet channel, you may be better just asking here and seeing how you get on
[13:44] <moza> thanks DJones, i didn't know that channel existed!
[13:45] <moza> Mainly, i tested the orca commands around a little, and just now, it reads aloud, but it sometimes doesn't execute commands. For example, i can press insert and space, it will read aloud "opening preferences", but not actually open the window.
[13:52] <cloneG> hello I just installed Wallch a nice desktop wallpaper manager that displays live earth images on desktop updated each 30 minutes
[13:53] <cloneG> the point is I found another  similar application only for windows that uses better and High Resolution images  from nasa: http://www.codefromthe70s.org/desktopearth_dl.aspx
[13:54] <cloneG> is there a way to set Wallch to use same images source
[13:54] <cloneG> ??
[13:54] <qwebirc33702> i installa elementary and i have probema on brightness can anyone help me please?
[13:54] <qwebirc33702> install*
[13:55] <jrib> qwebirc33702: isn't brightness a different distro?
[13:55] <jrib> erm
[13:55] <jrib> qwebirc33702: isn't elementary a different distro?
[13:55] <qwebirc33702> elementary OS
[13:55] <DJones> qwebirc33702: Elementary OS isn't supported in this channel, I think their support irc channel is #elementary
[13:56] <qwebirc33702> its a ubuntu distro i think no?
[13:56] <PoolShark_> anyone know if the bonding driver that comes with Ubuntu is compatible with the bonding that comes in a lot of Ethernet switches these days?
[13:56] <jrib> qwebirc33702: it's based on ubuntu, but changes are made to it.  So the folks at elementary support will be better able to help you
[13:56] <DJones> qwebirc33702: Its based on Ubuntu, but its not an officially supported version, see the channel I mentioned a minute ago, they should be able to help you
[13:56] <qwebirc33702> i try on elementary
[13:57] <sabret00the> Does anyone know how to get the Firefox Nightly Ubuntu PPA back up and running? It's been down for a couple weeks now.
[13:57] <MrElg> qwebirc33702 isnt Elementary using Enlightenment?
[13:57] <MrElg> I use Bodhi and Enlightenment, maybe i can help
[13:57] <qwebirc33702> i try on elementary but no one could help me
[13:57] <qwebirc33702> sorry for my bad english
[13:58] <Daekdroom> MrElg, the Elementary distribution is not using Enlightenment
[13:58] <qwebirc33702> because am italian
[13:58] <MrElg> k, my bad then
[13:58] <wiseeebou> hello, I'm encoding some DVD in x264 with avidemux but the pictures are not steady. Does anyone have knowledge in x264 ? I know it's ubuntu channel but maybe someone can help me
[13:58] <DJones> qwebirc33702: Just be patient there, I'm sure somebody will be able to help in time, I'm assuming it doesn't have the same number of users though, so support will be a bit slower
[13:58] <qwebirc33702> because when i try elementary on virtulalbox on windows the FN work
[13:58] <qwebirc33702> but now not work on dual boot
[14:00] <BluesKaj> wiseeebou, are you making a video for dvd or ?
[14:00] <santos463> can i know what are the basic networking commands in ubuntu ?
[14:00] <wiseeebou> I have some dvds that I want to rip, make mkv files to put on my hard drive
[14:00] <daftykins> santos463: to do what?
[14:00] <jrib> santos463: why?
[14:01] <jrib> !dvdrip | wiseeebou
[14:01] <santos463> to connect to other computer by lan
[14:01] <daftykins> ifconfig / route / iproute /
[14:01] <jrib> !dvd | wiseeebou
[14:01] <jrib> wiseeebou: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs
[14:01] <wiseeebou> I'm not on Ubuntu on my computer
[14:02] <wiseeebou> I just need to know what's wrong with my settings
[14:02] <MrElg> why are you asking here then?
[14:02] <jrib> wiseeebou: this channel is for ubuntu support
[14:02] <wiseeebou> I can link you a sample of the video
[14:02] <wiseeebou> cause nobody can help me
[14:02] <MrElg> try handbrake, its easy to use if you dont have the experience, available for windows
[14:02] <wiseeebou> I am on #x264, #x264dev, ##video etc and nobody answer
[14:03] <wiseeebou> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4auCK8LbjrmNTdESEpHbFoyZTA/edit have a look
[14:03] <jrib> wiseeebou: if you aren't using ubuntu, we can't really help you.  If you are, check out the suggestions given by ubottu
[14:06] <qwebirc33702> I installed elementary OS in virtualbox on windows and the FN key for brightness worked but when I installed elementary dual boot windows with the FN key does not work and the brightness does not change
[14:07] <DJones> qwebirc33702: Elementary OS isn't supported in this channel, you need to contact their own support channel
[14:07] <qwebirc33702> the elementary admin tell me go to Ubuntu and Ubuntu tell me to go on elementary :|
[14:08] <jrib> qwebirc33702: if you have the issue on ubuntu, we can help you.
[14:08] <qwebirc33702> @DJones the elementary member tell me go on Ubuntu channel and you can help you
[14:08] <qwebirc33702> and you tell me go to elementary channel
[14:08] <DJones> qwebirc33702: If thats the attitude of the Elementary OS admin's then you probably would be better removing Elementary and installing an operating system which is supported, this channel is only able to support the official Ubuntu releases
[14:09] <DJones> qwebirc33702: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu are supported here
[14:09] <smartboyhw> !elementary
[14:09] <robotti> elementary is basically ubuntu 12.04
[14:10] <smartboyhw> But it's unsupported
[14:10] <qwebirc33702> how i can install the FN on keyboard?
[14:10] <robotti> however they got same things broken
[14:10] <DJones> qwebirc33702: I'm afraid we're not able to help in this channel
[14:10] <jrib> qwebirc33702: please stop asking for support for elementary here.  Use elementary support.  They know the OS.  They can help you the best.  We don't know what exactly elementary changes on ubuntu.
[14:11] <grimeton> qwebirc33702: if you consider to switch you may not want to switch to ubuntu, because if you ask something a little off topic .... if you see what i mean ...
[14:11] <robotti> only DE is different, but OS is same.
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> robotti  if the OS were the same as ubuntu, it would be called ubuntu
[14:12] <jrib> qwebirc33702: if you're "stuck" as far as how to fix your issue, I would suggest installing ubuntu and seeing if the issue exists there.  If it does, then come back for support.  If it doesn't then you've narrowed it down to elementary-specific changes.
[14:12] <smartboyhw> !derivatives
[14:12] <robotti> MonkeyDust: but you can always install elementary DE to ubuntu
[14:12] <smartboyhw> So, elementary should be added...
[14:12] <robotti> but it is still ubuntu
[14:13] <DJones> robotti: Its not Ubuntu, we don't know what changes the dev's have made
[14:13] <smartboyhw> robotti, but the brightness thing might not be the same in Ubuntu and elementary
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc33702  and if you don't find support for your system, use a supported system
[14:13]  * grimeton facepalms
[14:13] <qwebirc33702> Ubuntu is very slow and crash my pc
[14:14] <smartboyhw> ubottu: no !derivatives is There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Elementary OS (support in #elementary)
[14:14] <smartboyhw> Somebody approve it:)
[14:15] <Myrtti> smartboyhw: you can make edit requests in pm with the bot, you know.
[14:15] <smartboyhw> Myrtti, oh, sorry, I don't know that. Anyways, it's good reminder to people that elementary isn't supported:P
[14:15] <Dmole> qwebirc33702, what's the issue?
[14:16] <Dmole> qwebirc33702 what computer are you using?
[14:16] <qwebirc33702> toshiba satellite l750
[14:16] <Dmole> qwebirc33702: with an i5 CPU?
[14:17] <qwebirc33702> yes i5
[14:17] <smartboyhw> qwebirc33702: You should try out some lighter *supported* flavours like Lubuntu... But it's weird that you have a i5 and it's slow, I've got an i5 here (1st generation)
[14:17] <qwebirc33702> but on Ubuntu 12.04 the browser crash
[14:17] <Dmole> qwebirc33702: pastebin dmesg
[14:17] <qwebirc33702> what?
[14:18] <ikonia> guys - why is this continuing, qwebirc33702 please take it to #elementary
[14:18] <Dmole> qwebirc33702: google it
[14:20]  * santos463 learning fast from here
[14:21] <lrojas> hi all, if i have ubuntu running under vmware installed with minimal virtual system ( seleceted in F4 during install ), if i do sudo apt-get upgrade it says that linux-image-virtual is being held back, but when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade there is no mention of linux-image-virtual. should i be ok with just upgrade ?
[14:21] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | lrojas
[14:21] <jrib> lrojas: you should run dist-upgrade
[14:22] <jrib> lrojas: (unless for some reason you don't want to install the latest support kernel with security updates and such)
[14:23] <jrib> lrojas: pastebin apt-cache policy linux-image-virtual and full input and output of your commands if you are still not sure what is happening
[14:23] <lrojas> jrib: i am creating a base box for vagrant, is a vm, what i want is to maintain the latest linux-image-virtual... now, if i do dist-upgrade, would i be destroying my virtual minimal system install?
[14:23] <L-sama> is there a chanel for ubuntu studio?
[14:23] <jrib> lrojas: dist-upgrade won't do anything without asking you first
[14:23] <ikonia> L-sama: have you looked at the ubuntu studio website ?
[14:24] <smartboyhw> L-sama, #ubuntustudio
[14:26] <lrojas> jrib: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f671ca8b64006bf5c45a
[14:27] <jrib> lrojas: [pastebin apt-cache policy linux-image-virtual] and full input and output of your commands if you are still not sure what is happening
[14:30] <marcin198611112> hi, how install in ubuntu 12.04 freeglut in version 2.8.1 from ppa??
[14:30] <lrojas> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/2433581
[14:32] <OerHeks> marcin198611112, what PPA do you refer to?
[14:32] <jrib> lrojas: yes, so dist-upgrade will be sure to upgrade your kernel.  When a new kernel is introduced, the metapackage is simply changed to point to the new version.  Thus only dist-upgrade will get you the new kernel.  You should run dist-upgrade to obtain the new kernel and do a proper upgrade to the latest packages available for your version of ubuntu
[14:33] <OerHeks> marcin198611112, 2.8.1.1 will be standard in saucy 13.10 >>https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeglut
[14:34] <lrojas> jrib: thanks, just wanted to make sure, because the meta package only includes drivers for the virtual enviroment, and i was worried dist-upgrade was going to pull general kernel with drivers for devices not present ina  vm
[14:35] <jrib> lrojas: worst case scenario, you can boot to the old kernel (i't skept around)
[14:35] <jrib> it's
[14:36] <lrojas> cool
[14:39] <d4rk0n3> is it safe to use  ''sudo apt-get remove libreoffice-*'' to remove office compltetly
[14:40] <sillyme> question: unity 3D in kinda lagging my desktop, how to switch to unity 2D ?
[14:40] <hualet_deepin> d4rk0n3, why do you want to remove libreoffice?
[14:42] <L-sama> hi
[14:42] <L-sama> is there a chanel for ubuntu studio?
[14:42] <hualet_deepin> sillyme, you can select unity 2D item in login view, i guess
[14:42] <sillyme> i crunch numbers all the time and unity 3D is taking my valuable sys resources
[14:42] <d4rk0n3> hualet_deepin, i dont use it at all lol
[14:42] <marcin198611112> i have dell 3521 with amd radeon hd8730m, this gpu card work with catalyst driver or not??
[14:43] <sillyme> i really liked 10.04 it was perfect
[14:43] <marcin198611112> with 13.6 not work
[14:43] <sillyme> might reinstall, how much longer is there support and updates for ubuntu 10.04
[14:44] <hualet_deepin> d4rk0n3, i've done that before, not noticed any side effect..
[14:44] <d4rk0n3> hualet_deepin,  would you recomend leaving it as is?
[14:45] <hualet_deepin> L-sama, what's ubuntu studio?
[14:45] <marcin198611112> amd support radeon hd8xxxm in catalyst linux driver???
[14:47] <L-sama_> hi
[14:47] <L-sama_> anybody here?
[14:47] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[14:49] <installer> hello
[14:50] <lrojas> apt-get or aptitude ( i know you should pick one over the other and stick with it, but how do i decide wich one ) ?
[14:50] <hualet_deepin> why's not much people here today?
[14:50] <L-sama> hi everybody =D
[14:50] <d4rk0n3> lrojas, preferably apt-get is easier to use imo
[14:51] <installer> comment booter avec une clé usb multisystem / je ne sais pas comment installer linux à partir de ma clé
[14:51] <kostkon> !fr | installer
[14:51] <L-sama> il faut checker ton boot menu priority
[14:51] <marcin198611112> hi, i have dell 15 3521 with radeon hd8730m, gpu card is support with catalyst driver 13.8?? with catalyst driver 13.6 not work this gpu card.
[14:51] <lrojas> d4rk0n3: how so?
[14:52] <installer>  <ubottu> / thanks a lot / I go here immediatly / gracias
[14:53] <d4rk0n3> lrojas, ive always used apt-get never really liked aptitdue but its ones opinion on which is easiest/best
[14:55] <d4rk0n3> will stripping ubuntuone from a fresh install break it ?
[14:56] <widad> s'il vous plaît besoin d'aide! Je n'arrive pas à installer quoi que ce soit de mon dépôt Ubuntu. Lorsque je clique sur installer il me signale un rapport de bugs et se ferme. comment puis-je résoudre ce problème s'il vous plaît?
[14:56] <jrib> !fr | widad
[14:57] <widad> please need help! I can not install anything from my Ubuntu repository. When I click install it repots me a bug  and closes. how can I fix this please?
[14:58] <marcin198611112> hi, i have dell 15 3521 with radeon hd8730m, gpu card is support with catalyst driver 13.8?? with catalyst driver 13.6 not work this gpu card.
[14:58] <d4rk0n3> widad,  what version is it ?
[14:59] <widad> d4rk0n3, how can i know it?
[14:59] <d4rk0n3> widad,  is it 13.04?
[15:00] <widad> d4rk0n3, it's 5.6.0 i'm talking about my repository
[15:01] <ILoveYou_> hey guys - weird display problem. i'm wondering if anyone has seen it before. seems at random intervals my screen will 'corrupt' of sorts. the image on the screen will distort into random boxes, some transparent (like literally how photoshop will display transparency) others will be colored. it's still usable but as you use the mouse it gets more and more distorted. only a reboot works
[15:02] <TJ-> ILoveYou_: Possibly the graphics chipset is overheating or its RAM is getting corrupted or both
[15:03] <OerHeks> no fan?
[15:03] <ILoveYou_> i dual-boot w7. i haven't seen it on windows yet
[15:03] <TJ-> ILoveYou_: OK, that's a good piece of information. Driver corruption then
[15:03] <ILoveYou_> it's a good theory though. is there a ubuntu cpu-z equiv that i can use to watch it
[15:04] <john_rambo> can I access Ubuntu One from Mint ?
[15:04] <widad> d4rk0n3, it's 13.04 for my ubuntu
[15:04] <daftykins> to watch what?
[15:04] <ILoveYou_> i'm running a 660gtx. just switched to nvidia drivers to see if it helps. would the display drivers be the only drivers responsible?
[15:04] <daftykins> likely, yes
[15:04] <ILoveYou_> the temperature
[15:04] <daftykins> cpu-z doesn't show temp XD
[15:05] <daftykins> perhaps you meant gpu-z
[15:05] <L-sama> hum
[15:05] <L-sama> is there a reason why i cannot install english canada with the installation
[15:06] <ILoveYou_> maybe i'm thinking of coretemp
[15:06] <ILoveYou_> it's one of those damn tools
[15:06] <ILoveYou_> anyway, ubuntu equivalent?
[15:06] <daftykins> neither would do anything from the graphics though...
[15:07] <erry> `/50
[15:08] <L-sama> re
[15:08] <L-sama> sorry
[15:08] <ILoveYou_> it's probably gpu-z then. looks like psensor might be a good one for ubuntu. i'll watch the temp and if not it's got to be the drivers. thanks guys
[15:08] <Erik_dc> someone here who would like to file a little report about a problem/bug I encountered? (no experiance myself)
[15:09] <L-sama> is there a reason why english canada is no longer available when installing ubuntu 12.4
[15:09] <L-sama> ?
[15:09] <daftykins> L-sama: can you take a pic?
[15:09] <L-sama> no
[15:10] <L-sama> its the install menu at keyboard layout window
[15:10] <L-sama> English cameroun, ghana , nigeria, south africa,uk,us
[15:10] <L-sama> no canada or australia
[15:10] <daftykins> hrmm
[15:11] <daftykins> sure there's not another choice first?
[15:11] <L-sama> there still get canadian multilingual keyboard layout
[15:11] <L-sama> but its in french
[15:11] <widad> please need help! I can not install anything from my Ubuntu repository. When I click install it repots me a bug  and closes. how can I fix this please?
[15:11] <L-sama> evgen the keyobard for english canada is in french canada
[15:11] <ubuntuissues> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I have a drive that was written with corrupted data due to a hardware issue (not the drives, but the motherboard/processor). I cloned that drive to an external hard drive. Wouldn't the superblock placement be in the same location, and shouldn't everything be in the same area?
[15:12] <ubuntuissues> I tried to run an fsck on the cloned drive, but, it keeps failing, so I need to find a way to fix that.
[15:13] <L-sama> no there isnt
[15:13] <L-sama> no canada spot
[15:14] <ubuntuissues> TJ- if you are here, I could use your help again.
[15:14] <ubuntuissues> If not, sorry for the useless ping.
[15:14] <Ampelbein> widad: Open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install", paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:16] <widad> Ampelbein, "widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[15:16] <widad> [sudo] password for widad:
[15:16] <widad> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[15:16] <widad> Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
[15:16] <widad> Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
[15:16] <widad> Les paquets suivants ont été installés automatiquement et ne sont plus nécessaires :
[15:16] <FloodBot1> widad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <L-sama> daftykins shouldnt it be reported to the ubuntu staff
[15:18] <daftykins> if this channel were official, yeah
[15:18] <daftykins> you could file a bug
[15:18] <daftykins> if you're 100% sure it did have it there before?
[15:18] <Ampelbein> widad: Use paste.ubuntu.com for that information. Also, to get that in english do the following: "sudo LANG=C apt-get -f install". And use paste.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <L-sama> it did
[15:18] <L-sama> its not even logical to calssify the english (canada) keyboard layout into french(canada) language
[15:19] <widad> Ampelbein, ok thanks
[15:20] <L-sama> hum this is the official ubuntu chanel for irc
[15:20] <widad> Ampelbein, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5999832/
[15:21] <daftykins> L-sama: yep volunteer run
[15:22] <Ampelbein> widad: ok, that looks fine. You can do "sudo LANG=C apt-get dist-upgrade" to initiate the system upgrade. Does that show any errors?
[15:22] <L-sama> can you report it in the forums
[15:22] <L-sama> its currently for the 12.4 lts one
[15:25] <widad> Ampelbein, it is working it says that it will last about 15 min
[15:26] <Ampelbein> widad: Ok, let that run, then try installing something from software-center and see if your problem is fixed.
[15:26] <Azertye_> Hello
[15:26] <widad> Ampelbein, ok
[15:27] <widad> Ampelbein, no its not fixed
[15:28] <Ampelbein> widad: What error message do you get?
[15:29] <widad> Ampelbein, i get a report telling me "application ubuntu software center has undergone an internal error. An error occurred while sending the transaction / usr / share / software-center / software-center"
[15:33] <Ampelbein> widad: hmm, never got that. Let me check known issues.
[15:34] <widad> Ampelbein, ok thanks a lot
[15:37] <Ampelbein> widad: Do you get the option to send an error report?
[15:40] <widad> Ampelbein, yes and i send it
[15:41] <Ampelbein> widad: Cool, do you have a bugnumber handy?
[15:44] <widad> Ampelbein, no sorry
[15:45] <widad> Ampelbein, the install is finished and the problem remains
[15:45] <widad> Ampelbein, but it's different
[15:46] <widad> Ampelbein, it doesn't do the report
[15:46] <widad> anymore
[15:46] <Ampelbein> widad: Out of curiosity, what are you trying to install that causes this error?
[15:46] <linuxearth> who is /linuxearth
[15:47] <linuxearth> who is \linuxearth
[15:47] <Ampelbein> linuxearth: /whois linuxearth ?
[15:47] <linuxearth> how to check whether my connection is secure or not?
[15:48] <widad> now i'm trying to install java on my ubuntu
[15:48] <widad> Ampelbein, now i'm trying to install java on my ubuntu
[15:48] <Ampelbein> widad: The packages from oracle I assume?
[15:48] <linuxearth> how to check whether my connection is secure or not?
[15:48] <Ampelbein> linuxearth: It would help to read what people answer you.
[15:48] <bekks> linuxearth: Youhave a connection, it is insecure by design.
[15:49] <widad> Ampelbein, yes
[15:50] <Ampelbein> widad: Thought so. There was bug 1051829 which only surfaced when installing bad 3rd party packages. Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:50] <widad> Ampelbein, 13.04
[15:52] <Ampelbein> widad: Can you poste the output of "apt-cache policy software-center" to paste.ubuntu.com?
[15:55] <widad> Ampelbein, yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/5999935/
[15:56] <sillyme> sup fuckers
[15:59] <widad> Ampelbein, is there any solution
[15:59] <Ampelbein> widad: Unfortunately I can't find one just now.
[15:59] <Ampelbein> widad: It seems to only affect non-ubuntu packages though.
[16:01] <widad> non-ubuntu i'm installing directly from ubuntu repository
[16:01] <L-sama> hello
[16:01] <L-sama> how do you get the gnome administration toolbar?
[16:02] <oxiredo> hello
[16:02] <whoever> widad: why not try openjvm
[16:02] <L-sama> back?
[16:02] <_ds__> Guys, I need help. Using 12.04 LTS, wifi is connected but internet not working. Any tips ? New user of linux
[16:02] <oxiredo> how can I make ICS on br0 in ubuntu ( I was able to connect to the host PC) but I dont have internet ( on client)
[16:02] <Ampelbein> widad: I thought you were trying to install oracle java.
[16:03] <Suhas> I have a problem launching the web browser (firefox) it gives me this message : LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[16:03] <daftykins> _ds__: do you have an IP? tried pinging your router?
[16:03] <ert3go> Hello,I can't copy my file to pendrive.It just stops at '0 seconds left'
[16:03] <MrElg> Suhas does it run in safe mode?
[16:03] <Drowz0r_> Hey guys. I'm having trouble with the Ubuntu forum log in. I read the post on how to make sure the two accounts linked, but they still didn't link...
[16:04] <Drowz0r_> Any idea how to fix this folks?
[16:04] <_ds__> daftykins: yes, I have tried pinging. It works
[16:04] <Suhas> i din check how to run it in safe mode , MrElg
[16:04] <faLUCE> hello. how can I enable hdmi audio on a cedar trail mobo with (l)ubuntu 12.04 ?
[16:04] <MrElg> run from terminal firefox -safe-mode
[16:05] <widad> Ampelbein, i'm trying to install java
[16:05] <L-sama> hello can someone answer me how to get the system-administration menu back in gnome?
[16:05] <_ds__> daftykins: yes, I have tried pinging router. It works
[16:05] <widad> Ampelbein, but when it failed
[16:06] <whoever> widad: why not try openjvm
[16:06] <widad> Ampelbein, i tried different things
[16:06] <daftykins> _ds__: ok, what do you get from 'nslookup google.com' ? you can use pastebin to show me the output
[16:06] <widad> ok just wait until the upgrade is finished
[16:06] <widad> whoever, ok just wait until the upgrade is finished
[16:06] <whoever> widad: ok,
[16:07] <Suhas> MrElg: actually, it initially runs but later it hangs and does n't respond!
[16:09] <TheMadMechanic> I need a bit of help, I have Ubuntu installed. Using that I encrypted an external drive. Now I want to install Arch but I'm not sure if there are any files I need to backup so I can continue to use my encrypted drive. I used Gnome Disk Utility to format and encrypt it originally
[16:09] <_ds__> daftykins: connection timed out ;  no serves could be reached
[16:09] <everald> Screen resolution has messed up when I started some video player, and I can't set it back using the screen settings tool, or disper. Any idea? Unplugging/replugging monitor hasn't helped either.
[16:10] <Cua> which video player, everald?
[16:11] <everald> I'm not sure. I think it was started when I accidentally double clicked on a .vob file.
[16:11] <everald> Which would be "Movie Player"
[16:12] <Cua> so,  a few questions, how 'messed up' (lower res?), video started in fullscreen mode or not? did the screen blink?
[16:12] <faLUCE> hello. how can I enable hdmi audio on a cedar trail mobo with (l)ubuntu 12.04 ? I can see the HDMI device with aplay -l but I don't see it with alsamixer
[16:12] <Cua> faLUCE: press F6, select device
[16:13] <daftykins> _ds__: ok sounds easy
[16:13] <everald> Cua: I hit cancel orsomething immediately, and it seemed like the program crashed because of this; at the same time, still in X, the resolution dropped down to 1024x768. And that's the highest entry in the monitor menu now, too.
[16:13] <faLUCE> Cua: already done, I don't see it
[16:13] <Cua> faLUCE: how many devices are there?
[16:13] <_ds___> daftykins: What does that mean ? I mean, what could be the problem /
[16:13] <Cua> everald: oh, that is weird, which video card are you using?
[16:14] <jnst> Anyone here have experience with gaming using Xen VMs with GPU passthrough?
[16:14] <daftykins> _ds___: basically your system has no DNS servers set, so it doesn't know how to translate domains into IP addresses. you've restarted since i take it?
[16:14] <faLUCE> Cua: on alsamixer I see the default device and intel hda
[16:14] <daftykins> _ds___: i just want to rule out that it's not going to fix itself on reboot
[16:14] <everald> Cua: how do I find out? It's not Nvidia.
[16:14] <_ds___> daftykins: I too rule that out sire
[16:15] <Cua> faLUCE: hmm, normally I use pulseaudio settings for that
[16:15] <_ds___> daftykins: Anyway to reset all network settings ?
[16:15] <Cua> everald: lspci ?
[16:15] <faLUCE> Cua: what should I do?
[16:16] <daftykins> _ds___: just put a DNS server into /etc/resolv.conf -
[16:16]  * Cua needs a bit of memory check, haven'd use HDMI for a while, back then it was 'just work'
[16:17] <everald> Cua: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller
[16:17] <_ds___> daftykins: I use automatic DNS in windows. So what DNS server you suggest I should add to /resolv.conf ?
[16:17] <_ds___> daftykins: Sorry for noob questions
[16:17] <Cua> everald: it should have no problem with playing video :-/ can you try that with vlc?
[16:18] <daftykins> _ds___: nothing noob about it! you could point it to your router's IP address to try.
[16:18] <_ds___> ok
[16:18] <daftykins> _ds___: e.g. 192.168.x.x
[16:18] <_ds___> daftykins: trying that
[16:18] <daftykins> _ds___: so the line would read "nameserver x.x.x.x"
[16:18] <_ds___> daftykins: sure
[16:18] <everald> Cua: playing video works fine. This doesn't always happen. It's just that the resolution is low now. I guess I have to reboot, no other way to fix.
[16:19] <Cua> everald: maybe a relog?
[16:19] <Cua> log out, log in
[16:19] <daftykins> _ds___: once one is in and saved, do 'nslookup google.com' again and you should get a big block of IPs returned as a result
[16:19] <_ds___> daftykins: Ok, doing it.
[16:20] <inclusa> ]]/j debian
[16:20] <Semen_Dickman> Yo which is better windows 8 or ubuntu
[16:21] <daftykins> !better
[16:21] <Semen_Dickman> please tell me please
[16:21] <daftykins> ops.
[16:22] <S_J> How do I get the path of a program?
[16:22] <bekks> S_J: "which program"
[16:24] <pranjal710> ops
[16:24] <S_J> bekks: any? like I can start ghci from the shell, can I do something like get_path ghci?
[16:24] <bazhang> pranjal710, whats the problem
[16:25] <bekks> S_J: "which ghci"
[16:26] <S_J> bekks: :) first thought you asked :)
[16:27] <S_J> where does apt-get store emacs-modes on ubuntu?
[16:32] <karab44> hello
[16:32] <overdub> S_J, apt-cache search emacs | grep -i mode
[16:33] <karab44> hello
[16:34] <karab44> my ubuntu server eats 25% CPU idle
[16:34] <jrib> karab44: what process?
[16:34] <overdub> karab44, what does top show?
[16:35] <karab44> syslog 192%
[16:35] <karab44> what does it mean?
[16:35] <jrib> karab44: have you checked your logs?
[16:35] <karab44> where can find them?
[16:36] <dustinspringman> anyone been successful in getting the HDMI (not the mini using a converter, but the actual HDMI port) on a Dell laptop using Optimus functioning properly? I've tried bumblebee to no avail... Using the Mini-to-Full HDMI works, but its lame.. Just curious..
[16:38] <karab44> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000084/
[16:38] <karab44> linux server lives since 5 minutes
[16:39] <S_J> overdub: ty but I need the path to itto put that in my .emacs file
[16:40] <karab44> there is nothing suspicious in /var/log location the size of logs does not change
[16:40] <karab44> where to search for more logs
[16:40] <karab44> ?
[16:42] <karab44> what is rsyslogd
[16:43] <grimeton> karab44: man rsyslogd
[16:44] <forsaquarii_> Is there any change that the Ubuntu Edge crowd funding time might be extended?
[16:44] <daftykins> forsaquarii_: nobody here officially answers such questions, however #ubuntu-touch is the channel for such talk
[16:44] <karab44> grimeton: thank you bro. Anytime I come here there is somebody who think he helps :)
[16:46] <_ds__> I am installing a package from this - http://labs.lazlo.de/trac/labs/wiki/GuideWritingUnitTestsInCUsingCppUTest
[16:46] <_ds__> But getting an error
[16:46] <_ds__> Can anybody help ?
[16:46] <_ds__> the error is - make file not found
[16:46] <bekks> !details | _ds__
[16:47] <_ds__> ubottu: Sure sir
[16:48] <DJones> [DS]Matej: Any reason you're installing from source? That app looks to be in the ubuntu repositories, "sudo apt-get install cpputest" should install it for you
[16:48] <zykotick9> _ds__: ahh if make isn't found, i'd suggest you start by installing the build-essential package
[16:49] <_ds__> I have a problem with installing a package, I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, When I try to run this command "cd ~/src/CppUTest/; make", it says make file not found
[16:49] <_ds__> zykotic9: Command for it sir ? I am noob in linux
[16:49] <DJones> _ds__: Ignore my comment then, its in Quantal, but not 12.04
[16:49] <_ds__> DJones: ok
[16:49] <zykotick9> _ds__: "sudo apt-get install buld-essential" is one method...
[16:50] <_ds__> zykotic9: I guessed it right. I tried that command and it didn't work
[16:50] <_ds__> I installed form the command given at the page I gave link of
[16:51] <_ds__> zykotic9: sudo apt-get install -y g++ build-essential
[16:51] <DarthExpeditor> OK, So I have a fun one. I am trying to install ruby and it is missing dependancies but when I try to install the deps it is missing ruby
[16:51] <zykotick9> _ds__: sorry i guess you're getting "make file not found", i guess you have make then.  well best of luck.
[16:52] <_ds__> zykotick9: Yes, I am getting that error only, but how to make make file ?
[16:52] <bekks> _ds__: Whats the exact, entire output of your error?
[16:52] <_ds__> bekks: It was just "make file not found".
[16:52] <zykotick9> _ds__: well usually with ./configure but you have to follow whatever directions you have...
[16:54] <_ds__> zykotick9: bekks: One thing I would like to mention that everything worked when I directly installed package when I downloaded directly from internet, but not when cloning via terminal ?
[16:54] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: No, it wasnt. Please pastebin the entire error message.
[16:55] <_ds__> zykotick9: bekks: It's solved guys, thanks
[16:57] <dom_2013> hi
[16:58] <pranav> how to install fonts in libre office ?
[17:00] <Jordon_Islwyn> Hello everyone, Jordon_Islwynhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[17:00] <dom_2013> pranav: if you solve it, tell me
[17:03] <pranav> yup! it was naive. i should have used the font viewer instead of searching for a folder to copy :|
[17:03] <IdleOne> pranav: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/17323/adding-fonts-to-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-1304beta/#17324
[17:08] <oxiredo> I am trying to share internt conection from ppp0 to br0 ( I also have a working script that does work in another Linux OX). But I cant make it work in ubuntu (http://www.routermods.com/iptables-generator/index.php)
[17:08] <oxiredo> any ideea is welcomed
[17:08] <m000gle> I just created a custom .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications but it doesn't appear in Unity dash search results.  Is there any way to force Unity to refresh it's search and icon cache, in order to make this new launcher appear?
[17:09] <trism> m000gle: it shouldn't update instantly but lately in 13.04 I haven't been able to get it to show up until logging out and back in
[17:10] <trism> m000gle: sorry shouldn't = should
[17:10] <oxiredo> where is /var/log/messages file ?
[17:10] <m000gle> trism: That's what I thought, and that's also what has happened with other .desktop files I've created.  It just doesn't seem to work, today, regardless of what I try =/
[17:13] <rypervenche> oxiredo: I believe it's /var/log/syslog on Ubuntu now.
[17:14] <rypervenche> oxiredo: or rsyslog, one of the two.
[17:14] <oxiredo> tnx
[17:14] <wiak> rypervenche: your a mind reader!
[17:14] <wiak> :P
[17:19] <HTT-Bird> ok, why in the world is Quantal's nvidia-current-dev package putting GL headers in /usr/include/nvidia-current/GL ?  nobody can find them there @.@
[17:19] <wiak> ln -s them then :P
[17:20] <thms78> hello all
[17:21] <dds78> hi guyz
[17:21] <dds78> jonbo: hey
[17:21] <Christopher> hi
[17:21] <dds78> Christopher: hi
[17:22] <Christopher> ive installed ubuntu 13.04
[17:22] <Christopher> but
[17:22] <Christopher> when i restart it boots from the usb
[17:22] <Christopher> and if i remove the usb and restart
[17:22] <daftykins> Christopher: can you try and keep it on one line please
[17:22] <Christopher> ok
[17:23] <oxiredo> what log file should I watch for iptables (errors , warnings) ?
[17:23] <jrib> oxiredo: that would depend on what iptables rules you made
[17:24] <oxiredo> I want to make a masquarade ...something
[17:24] <HTT-Bird> wiak: and we shall see. :)
[17:24] <oxiredo> and  it does not work , so I want to see some log file
[17:24] <Christopher> Installation is complete but when i restart it doesnt boot, it boots the menu to install again. if i remove the usb and restart it says operating system not found
[17:26] <rypervenche> oxiredo: You won't see any logging unless you tell it to log.
[17:27] <rypervenche> oxiredo: It might be better to show us your rules and then we can tell you if/where they're wrong.
[17:27] <oxiredo> ok, I will show the one I know it worked on slackware
[17:29] <oxiredo> here : http://pastebin.com/C3kURb0r
[17:30] <dds78> oxiredo:  ?!
[17:30] <HTT-Bird> wiak: had to ln -s both the headers and the libraries and then rerun ldconfig, but it seems to have worked
[17:30] <dds78> symbolics links are godlike
[17:30] <oxiredo> so far  I managed to connect to the host (from an android wia WIFI). But I dont have internet access
[17:30] <HTT-Bird> dds78: they are handy, yes. :)
[17:31] <rypervenche> oxiredo: Instead give us this output, iptables -nL, iptabes -t nat -nL
[17:31] <Christopher> I completed the installation of 13.04 but when I restart to complete the installation it just reboots from the usb.
[17:32] <rypervenche> Christopher: Sounds like you installed grub to your USB drive.
[17:32] <dds78> Christopher: remove your usb key from your computer
[17:32] <dds78> :p
[17:33] <Christopher> Ive tried removing it i just get operating system not found
[17:34] <daftykins> !grub | Christopher
[17:34] <daftykins> ^reinstall grub
[17:34] <oxiredo> outuo if iptables : http://pastebin.com/KJsdaprA
[17:35] <oxiredo> output of iptables :  http://pastebin.com/KJsdaprA **
[17:35] <rypervenche> oxiredo: Well you don't have any rules set up.
[17:36] <oxiredo> hmm,, that could be the reason it did not work ..
[17:39] <oxiredo> iptables -nL : http://pastebin.com/CB6dK7Ed
[17:40] <Christopher> I havent reinstalled windows either. i dont have any other os besides ubuntu on my pc
[17:40] <voila> hello ... very strange .. I own ubuntu 12.04 and updated it in the morning .. now when i restart my computer , i noticed that all my gui is changed ... my terminal gui changed and windows cancel,minimize,maximize button are comming on right like windows contrasting to that of earlier on left :(
[17:40] <voila> any help
[17:40] <voila> it is horrible gui
[17:41] <wiak> update?
[17:41] <voila> sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:42] <wiak> i noticed xfce messed up, after that i just did rm -r .config/xfce4
[17:42] <wiak> :P
[17:42] <oxiredo> rypervenche: I`ve made the rules in iptable:
[17:42] <oxiredo> http://pastebin.com/jkjGuQzS http://pastebin.com/CB6dK7Ed
[17:42] <voila> wiak, is that for me ?
[17:42] <rypervenche> oxiredo: You want to see help you with your masquerading, but you're not showing us your nat table. "iptables -t nat -nL" please
[17:42] <linuxearth> which ubuntu version should be installed?
[17:43] <voila> 12.04
[17:43] <rypervenche> oxiredo: Ok, so what is it that you're trying to do then.
[17:43] <voila> linuxearth, 12.04
[17:43] <gvo> linuxearth: that depends a lot on what you want it to do.
[17:43] <oxiredo> share internet from ppp0 to br0 (wlan1 and later ethX)
[17:43] <gvo> linuxearth: voila 's suggestion is pretty good for most users.
[17:44] <voila> gvo, my suggestion ??
[17:44] <gvo> linuxearth: but if you have very new hardware you might have to run a later version.
[17:44] <wiak> rypervenche boo
[17:44] <gvo> voila 12.04
[17:45] <voila> gvo, I told my version of ubuntu :)
[17:45] <voila> not any suggestions :)
[17:45] <voila> After upgrading my system .. all guis changed
[17:45] <gvo> voila: I think linuxearth wanted to know what version to install.
[17:45] <voila> lol
[17:45] <voila> ohh ok
[17:45] <wiak> messed up config upgrade then
[17:45] <voila> then 12.04
[17:45] <wiak> check .config folder in home root
[17:45] <wiak> :P
[17:46] <wiak> home*
[17:46] <wiak> user home*
[17:46] <wiak> :P
[17:46] <FloodBot1> wiak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <linuxearth> gvo: yes
[17:46] <linuxearth> which ubuntu version should be installed?
[17:46] <wiak> sexy bot
[17:46] <oxiredo> so, could be iptables the reason I dont have the internet shared ( or could also be dhcpd or else ) ? . I was able to connect to host (192.168.1.1) also pings worked
[17:46] <wiak> linuxearth: depends
[17:46] <wiak> LTS meybe?
[17:46] <linuxearth> means?
[17:46] <ReDL1ZARD> hi
[17:46] <gvo> linuxearth: see our replies.
[17:46] <linuxearth> means i need to learn the chess
[17:46] <linuxearth> sorry linux
[17:47] <linuxearth> i mean i need to learn the linux
[17:47] <gvo> linuxearth: 12.04 in that case.
[17:47] <ReDL1ZARD> are there any software to search shoutcast directory and play web radio?
[17:47] <linuxearth> 12.04
[17:47] <linuxearth> hmm
[17:47] <linuxearth> okay
[17:47] <linuxearth> that has terminal?
[17:47] <FloodBot1> linuxearth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <gvo> linuxearth: but NOT unity.
[17:47] <visualise> linux-ninja, yes
[17:47] <gvo> linuxearth: Sure
[17:48] <linuxearth> okk and apart from this, one more thing
[17:48] <linuxearth> my friend has told me that he made my connection secured,how do i check that..? he is not here and i am alone most of the time, cani check it with anything right now?
[17:48] <linuxearth> over irc
[17:49] <visualise> ReDL1ZARD, there's SHOUTCURSES for searching/playing shoutcast streams from terminal. It uses ncurses
[17:49] <gvo> linuxearth: Can't help with that question.
[17:49] <linuxearth> okk
[17:49] <linuxearth> ty
[17:49] <visualise> ReDL1ZARD, or did you want gui/gtk?
[17:49] <ReDL1ZARD> visualise: i googled and nothing, ugh
[17:50] <visualise> ReDL1ZARD, try http://shoutcurses.tappir.com
[17:50] <ReDL1ZARD> ReDL1ZARD: thanks m8 :)
[17:51] <dds78> ***
[17:51] <dds78> who use lib notify ?
[17:51] <visualise> dds78, ubuntu?
[17:51] <dds78> on debian
[17:52] <dds78> what is the display on a correctly installed script?
[17:52] <ReDL1ZARD> visualise: AWESOME. thats just what i was looking for!!
[17:52] <ReDL1ZARD> thanks again :)
[17:52] <oxiredo>  could be iptables the reason I dont have the internet shared ( or could also be dhcpd or else ) ? . I was able to connect to host (192.168.1.1) also pings worked *
[17:52] <ReDL1ZARD> bye everybody!!
[17:54] <dds78> who can pv me plz
[17:55] <dds78> someone can semnd me a msg in private plz? just for a test
[17:57] <goddard> check out this game for linux http://store.steampowered.com/app/209540/
[17:57] <ikonia> goddard: please don't spam links
[17:58] <goddard> ikonia: its ok bud this isn't spam
[17:58] <ikonia> goddard:  it is spam - please don't do it
[17:58] <goddard> ikonia: its a steam game that is awesome hardly spam :D
[17:58] <ikonia> goddard: it's unsollicated information - please, just don't do it, ok ?
[17:58] <bekks> goddard: Advertisements are considered to be spam, even outside the IRC.
[17:59] <goddard> its not an advertisment
[17:59] <goddard> i didn't make this game
[18:04] <russw> does anyone know where the ufw rules show up?  I'm adding stuff with "ufw allow foo" when not enabled, and can't tell if it is sticking.
[18:04] <russw> I don't want to enable in case my ssh gets locked out (as it warns me it might)
[18:06] <auronandace> !ufw | russw
[18:06] <daftykins> russw: iptables
[18:06] <Slart> russw: ufw --help doesn't give you any information on how to view rules?
[18:07] <Slart> russw: something along the lines of   sudo ufw status verbose
[18:07] <russw> Slart: 'status' is normally the one, but when not enabled it simply says "status inactive"
[18:07] <russw> verbose is no better
[18:07] <Slart> russw: ahh.. sneaky
[18:08] <Slart> russw: have a loot at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/30781/see-configured-rules-even-when-inactive
[18:09] <russw> Slart: thx... that looks promising
[18:10] <russw> weird.  The user rules are in /lib/ufw/user.rules (rather than in /etc/ufw, where you'd think they'd be)
[18:10] <russw> thx Slart
[18:11] <Slart> russw: you're welcome
[18:15] <soumyajit> please helpppp
[18:15] <soumyajit> i am unable to change my laptop brightness
[18:15] <soumyajit> my eyen are burning
[18:16] <woo> soumyajit: you already used the brightness setting program?
[18:16] <soumyajit> yeah
[18:16] <soumyajit> but it isd not working
[18:16] <soumyajit> i am using 13.04
[18:17] <woo> soumyajit: is there an "auto" button for your fn functions?
[18:17] <soumyajit> no
[18:18] <lyda> does anyone use the ivso bluetooth keyboard on a nexus 7 with ubuntu.
[18:18] <bazhang> lyda, try #ubuntu-touch
[18:19] <soumyajit> woo: what should i do???
[18:19] <lyda> bazhang: brill.  thanks!
[18:20] <soumyajit> pleaseeeeeeee helpppp anyone
[18:21] <bazhang> !helpme | soumyajit
[18:27] <woo> soumyajit: you still there?
[18:27] <soumyajit> yeh
[18:27] <woo> I have to log out and then back in to check config
[18:28] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[18:29] <daftykins> hi
[18:30] <soumyajit> i am unable to change my laptop brightness
[18:30] <soumyajit> my eyen are burning
[18:30] <daftykins> so you keep saying.
[18:31] <bazhang> !repeat | soumyajit
[18:31] <Abbas|> soumyajit does ur laptop keyboard not come with addtional Fn key
[18:31] <Abbas|> and brightness / sound controls via that key?
[18:32] <soumyajit> yeah but nothing happens when i press those key
[18:32] <ShapeShifter499> After updating and messing around with display drivers and xorg everything appears to be working now except unity, why is this?    my system is setup to log myself password free but it loads to a session with just the desktop icons no top panel, no unity switcher on the left. I am able to kick myself out into the login by going into one of the TTY's and "sudo pkill -u user"   and I can log into x
[18:32] <ShapeShifter499> fce4 fine but not unity, any ideas?
[18:33] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: no errors in the logs?
[18:33] <soumyajit> it show the brightness is decreasing but in the real nothing happens
[18:33] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, which log should I be looking at?
[18:34] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: /var/log/syslog is a good start
[18:34] <QuietStorm81> Afternoon all. Strange issue with my wifi here. I can't connect to routers if the key is all numbers but can connect to ones that have letters in them. Any help? I'm using a laptop on 13.04
[18:35] <Slart> soumyajit: some laptops need special settings.. that was the case with my asus laptop.. regular brightness settings (fn+F7 or whatever) didn't work but after changing some stuff it works
[18:35] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, ok, I'm looking to see if there is anything, want me to pastebin a copy of that log?
[18:35] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: $HOME/.xsession-errors might also contain something
[18:35] <Slart> soumyajit: try googling for your laptop model/manufacturer and brightness ubuntu  should get you some answers
[18:36] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: try     grep -i fail /var/log/syslog     no need to pastebin
[18:36] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: change fail to error also..
[18:37] <soumyajit> Slart: i tried but failed
[18:37] <L-sama> how do you install the grub manager on ubuntu 12.4?
[18:37] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, gvo this seems like the error:   "Aug 18 11:33:01 lance-Aspire-7540 kernel: [ 1301.279218] unity_support_t[14463]: segfault at 0 ip 00007ffb3a552a49 sp 00007fff89523290 error 4 in r600_dri.so[7ffb3a4a6000+e4000]"
[18:37] <ShapeShifter499> segfault
[18:38] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: Not nice
[18:38] <gordonjcp> !grub | L-sama
[18:38] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: that looks like a probable cause.. not really a lot you can do about a sefault though
[18:38] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: Try apt-get dist-upgrade.
[18:38] <L-sama> ok grub 2, but I only have applications and places menus
[18:38] <Slart> soumyajit: then you get to be the one writing this first webpage that the next guy with the same problem finds =)
[18:39] <L-sama> I lost my administration menus with synaptic and grub manager
[18:39] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, actually unity was working at some point, I seemed to have messed it up trying to install the proprietary display drivers for my system
[18:39] <jasonlangberg> should i learn linux and ubuntu so i can help out the community in chatrooms
[18:39] <palomer> hey guys, if I burn a live usb
[18:39] <palomer> will I be able to install stuff on it?
[18:39] <palomer> like, will it be peristent
[18:39] <L-sama> !grub
[18:40] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: imho installing drivers should make stuff segfault.. that's just bad programming, if you ask me
[18:40] <gvo> palomer if you reserve space for it, yes
[18:40] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: sorry... *shouldn't*
[18:40] <L-sama> I still have grub I only need to get my grub manager to set grub at start
[18:40] <palomer> gvo, how?
[18:40] <gvo> palomer use unetbootin
[18:41] <ShapeShifter499> gvo, even after running apt-get update, there seems like there is nothing to update
[18:41] <ShapeShifter499> *upgrade
[18:41] <gvo> palomer: there is an option in the menu to add space for saving IIRC
[18:41] <leeSL510> If I needed help with firefox in ubuntu 13.04 would I post here?
[18:42] <gvo> ShapeShifter499: It was just something to try.
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, whatever reason that error is referencing a card I do not have installed
[18:42] <daftykins> leeSL510: you can try
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> R600?
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> mine is R880
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> iirc
[18:42] <Varazir> I'm tryibg to update linux-headers-3.2.0-52-generic and I get No space left on device , I checked df -h and I have 3 GB left on /
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, my card is a ATI Radeon HD 4200
[18:42] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm.. wonder if you can uninstall/blacklist the r600 driver.. ie make it not load and mess things up?
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> this is a laptop
[18:43] <jrib> Varazir: pastebin output of « df -h ›
[18:43] <gvo> Varazir: as jrib says
[18:43] <Varazir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000433/
[18:43] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I wouldn't know how
[18:44] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm.. let me look around.. I've got a nvidia-card myself but perhaps google knows something
[18:44] <leeSL510> This may not be limited to Firefox, but it seems the computer freezes at time when I select a youtube video. The screen looks like it's about to dim out. I can move the mouse but not click anything. I'm not sure what's causing this?
[18:44] <QuietStorm81> Question: Strange issue with my wifi here. I can't connect to routers if the key is all numbers but can connect to ones that have letters in them. Any help? I'm using a laptop on 13.04
[18:44] <Varazir> don't know what's taking upp all space, only thing I'm running the client is skype
[18:44] <jrib> Varazir: paste full input and output of your apt-get command
[18:44] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, ok
[18:45] <Varazir> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000441/
[18:45] <gvo> Varazir: Does it fail immediately or after a while?
[18:46] <Varazir> gvo: immediately
[18:46] <gvo> Anything interesting in the syslog?
[18:47] <DocOC> google has failed me. How can I make sure that byobu-tmux allows my $PROMPT_COMMAND to set the terminal window title, instead of just setting it to user@host (ip) - byobu
[18:48] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, is it crazy to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" to reconfigure everything installed?
[18:48] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm, didn't really find anything. Can you uninstall the driver you installed? go back to the default drivers?
[18:49] <Varazir> gvo: nothing what I can see
[18:49] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, that is what I did after I tried the proprietary drivers, back on default open source drivers and still no unity
[18:49] <gvo> Interesting.
[18:50] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: does it work if you boot from a live/install cd?
[18:50] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, it works if I log into guest
[18:50] <ShapeShifter499> yes it also works in live cd
[18:51] <Varazir> I rebooted the system just to make sure
[18:51] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: oh! that's promising... can you create a new user? does it work for the new user?
[18:51] <jrib> Varazir: are you able to create some file like /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-25/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach/iq81340.h.dpkg-wtf yourself?
[18:51] <gvo> Varazir: try a df -h /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-52/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach
[18:52] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, no I haven't done that
[18:52] <slacko25328> sup fuckers
[18:52] <Varazir> df: `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-52/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach': No such file or directory
[18:52] <Slart> !ohmy | slacko25328
[18:52] <L-sama> hello
[18:52] <L-sama> how can I find the system menu in gnome ? for 12.4 LTS?
[18:53] <woo> that brigness config killed my boot up.  I ended up in init 1 editing my xorg.conf
[18:53] <Varazir> LOL nice command :D LLAP
[18:53] <avallark> hello all :)
[18:53] <gvo> varazir OK try mkdir -p /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-52/arch/arm/mach-iop13xx/include/mach
[18:53] <woo> hi avallark
[18:53] <gvo> Varazir: then try the df statement again
[18:53] <Varazir> gvo: worked
[18:54] <avallark> Just trying out irc on emacs ! :) very nice
[18:54] <linuxliam> my wallpaper transitins are so laggy
[18:54] <Varazir> gvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000475/
[18:54] <DocOC> avalarion, what client do you use in emacs?
[18:54] <gvo> Varazir: I think he's lying to you.  Try the update once again.
[18:55] <Varazir> gvo: same error
[18:55] <jrib> gvo: dpkg extract .deb somewhere temporarily?  Where?
[18:55] <Varazir> gvo: this is a VM running on a ESXi host
[18:56] <Varazir> checked no low space on the host storage
[18:56] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, it's been a while, I think I'm going to start fresh and never ever touch the proprietary drivers
[18:56] <gvo> varazir: I figured it was a VM of some sort.  Look on the host syslog
[18:57] <jrib> Varazir: I would make some 100 MB file or so myself to see if issue repeats
[18:57] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I'll just resize, install to new partition, backup what I want, remove old partition, and resize
[18:57] <L-sama> what tools replaced startup manager?
[18:57] <gvo> Varazir: I'm not familiar with ESXi so I don't know where errors might be logged on the host.
[18:57] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: I'm sorry I don't have any better solution for you.. it might be as easy as removing a file or two but I don't know where to start with this
[18:57] <gvo> jrib good idea
[18:59] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, next computer I get will not be a AMD chipset, those are hell to get running from what I already read and experienced
[18:59] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Actually, thats not true. They do run as smooth as other ones.
[18:59] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, thank you for trying to help out
[19:00] <Varazir> gvo: testing to download a 100MB file
[19:00] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, what I don't like is they could drop support at anytime making it hard to support
[19:00] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Huh? Where do you get that obvious wrong information from?
[19:00] <linuxliam> using XML files to automatically change backgrounds works but the transitions are laggy
[19:01] <ars23> does anybody knows something about gtksourceviewmm? i tried on the channel for gtk but didn't find an answer...
[19:02] <DocOC> anyone know how I can get terminal windows running byobu-tmux to allow my $PROMPT_COMMAND to set the terminal window title?
[19:02] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, how is that wrong? they stopped supporting the latest xorg for the chipset my laptop has
[19:02] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Because your hardware is too old, isnt it?
[19:02] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, making a otherwise still ok computer crap
[19:03] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, it's around 3 years old
[19:03] <linuxliam> any ideas
[19:03] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: If our chipset is too old, then it isnt supported anymore. Thats how technology evolves. And Intel is doing the very same - with the difference that you do not own Intel hw yet.
[19:04] <bekks> *your
[19:06] <gvo> Varazir: I'll bet you are out of Inodes....
[19:07] <L-sama> how do you customize grub?
[19:07] <DocOC> df -i will tell you if you are out of inodes.
[19:07] <gvo> Varazir: As will stat -f /
[19:08] <Varazir> bingo
[19:08] <gvo> Varazir: And the answer is?
[19:08] <gvo> He's keeping us in suspense...
[19:08] <Varazir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000516/
[19:09] <Varazir> out of inodes
[19:09] <DocOC> if you are out of inodes, something is creating a lot of little files and not cleaning up after itself. I've seen this happen with php with the gc_enable = Off set  in php.ini
[19:10] <gvo> Varazir: It's a fairly common problem with containers.  I can't ever recall running out of inodes on my host.
[19:10] <Varazir> gvo: ok
[19:10] <Varazir> gvo: didn't know about it :)
[19:11] <DocOC> varazir, is this a web-server vm?
[19:11] <Varazir> no
[19:11] <Varazir> running skype
[19:11] <Varazir> that's it
[19:12] <Varazir> and skyped.py a python script to communicate with bitlbee
[19:12] <DocOC> running skype client?
[19:12] <Varazir> skype client
[19:12] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Oh, and btw - why cant you use 12.04 - which is supported until 2017?
[19:12] <gvo> too many files somewhere.
[19:13] <gvo> Look in /tmp
[19:13] <bekks> gvo: /tmp is in RAM by default.
[19:13] <bekks> gvo: and df -i will tell you where you have no inodes anymore.
[19:13] <gvo> wow small tmp space
[19:14] <Varazir> running disk usage analyzer :P
[19:14] <gvo> bekks his tmp space is in /
[19:14] <bekks> du -hi --max-depth=1 /
[19:14] <Varazir> most files/itme sin /usr/bin 1121
[19:14] <robin_be> hello
[19:15] <bekks> Varazir: 1121 is nothing, merely.
[19:15] <Varazir> nvm
[19:15] <Varazir> the stats didn't count for subfolders
[19:16] <bekks> Varazir: du -shi /*
[19:17] <Varazir> -i is invalid
[19:17] <woo> anyone running eclipse on ubuntu pangolin?
[19:17] <usr13> -h
[19:18] <DocOC> woo: I did when I was on pangolin
[19:18] <woo> DocOC: can get karel's source files to be recognized.  Its that a furter config issue or an ubuntu issue?
[19:20] <woo> DocOC: I can load the maps but I can't run anything
[19:21] <DocOC> woo: I don't know if this is an issue, I did this because I was doing android coding, but I used sun java 6 for java, not the default openjdk
[19:21] <gvo> Varazir: Find the files yet?
[19:22] <Varazir> found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/653096/howto-free-inode-usage
[19:22] <cipherboy> Okay, this is getting annoying and #MacOSX isn't on topic at the moment... Anyone willing to help trouble shoot compiling on OS X? Trying to build a basic gnu collection, but everything fails on ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64 ...
[19:22] <woo> DocOC: I installed java 7
[19:24] <robin_be> can someone help me fixing my bootloader?
[19:24] <Varazir> I'll check back tomorrow see if the search have found anything
[19:24] <linuxliam> using XML files to automatically change backgrounds works but the transitions are laggy
[19:24] <cipherboy> robin_be: whats your problem?
[19:24] <bekks> Varazir: The searc takes a few minutes only.
[19:24] <Varazir> bekks: still running
[19:24] <bekks> Varazir: Which is still "a few minutes". :)
[19:24] <Varazir> bekks: ya
[19:24] <robin_be> error: no such partitions on boot
[19:25] <DocOC> woo, you installed it, but is it the default java. do this: java -version
[19:25] <robin_be> *when i boot
[19:25] <novaspirit> i need help trying to compile something for all ubuntu using make. how would i do that? when i compile and transfer the file to another ubuntu it always saying missing files
[19:25] <cipherboy> robin_be: did you recently add or remove drives and what version of Ubuntu?
[19:26] <Varazir> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000558/
[19:26] <robin_be> no and it's lubuntu (let me get version)
[19:26] <Varazir> and gvo
[19:26] <DocOC> novaspirit, on the other ubuntu, type ldd <your program>
[19:26] <robin_be> I think 13.04
[19:26] <gvo> Varazir: OK its in usr now try find /usr .....
[19:26] <bekks> Varazir: thats a very, very useless search.
[19:26] <woo> DocOC: ya its openjdk
[19:27] <robin_be> I'm on the liveCD now
[19:27] <Varazir> the line you gave me didn't work
[19:27] <gvo> bekks, he's zeroing in on it.
[19:27] <DocOC> woo, do this: update-alternatives --config java
[19:27] <bekks> Varazir: It counts the number of files, it doesnt count the space, it doesnt count the inodes, it doesnt tell you what is using space.
[19:27] <Varazir> bekks: it gave my -i is not a valid
[19:27] <novaspirit> DocOC, i will try that give me a sec
[19:27] <bekks> Varazir: du -sh /*
[19:27] <bekks> Varazir: Omit the -i then.
[19:28] <Varazir> bekks: :)
[19:28] <robin_be> yep, 13.04
[19:28] <bekks> Varazir: Or even more useful: du -shx /*
[19:28] <woo> DocOC: ok brb
[19:28] <DocOC> bekks: not sure, but I think du my try to glob the directory, which will not work if it has an overwhelming amount of inodes.
[19:28] <gvo> bekks that's even more useless.
[19:28] <bekks> gvo: Because?
[19:29] <robin_be> cipherboy
[19:29] <bekks> DocOC: IT works perfectly.
[19:29] <CaitlynUnity> howdy, I have  what are probably some very nooby questions about some things i'm trying to set up in ubuntu, probably basic unix stuff really , but i don't want to annoy you in this group about it (having to do with where i should put my executables, and rc.local stuff)
[19:29] <gvo> At least on my system it just give me disk space.
[19:29] <cipherboy> robin_be: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing  ; scroll down until you get to the section on installing grub from a live cd. Follow those steps, then report back..next step will be to chroot and update-grub.
[19:29] <bekks> gvo: Thats what du is intended to do.
[19:29] <woo> smue: DocOC found them
[19:29] <bekks> And thats necessary to see what is using space.
[19:29] <CaitlynUnity> Is this a good group to ask? Or is there a #desperatenoobubuntuquestions channel? :)
[19:29] <woo> mt smue sry
[19:29] <woo> sorry
[19:29] <robin_be> ok
[19:30] <gvo> bekks but a file count as his script ran gave him files.  If the problem is a bunch of small files then that'll find it quicker than du
[19:30] <bekks> gvo: Technically, using one single inode, you can use up all space available on a filesystem. So searching for inodes is useless, when trying to free up space.
[19:31] <DocOC> bekks, he is not trying to free up space. He is out of inodes.
[19:31] <gvo> But he's trying to free up inodes not space
[19:31] <gvo> He has 3 Gb of space and 1000 inodes.
[19:31] <bekks> gvo: IF the problem is - we dont even know. And that single case (a bunch of small files) is the only case where find -type f might be useful.
[19:31] <CaitlynUnity> I need to install a couple of server daemons (IRC and atheme services actually) and right now they're in my ~ directory, so like caitlynunity/atheme and caitlynunity/inspircd
[19:31] <bekks> gvo: 3GB space and 1000 files - those files arent that small then.
[19:31] <CaitlynUnity> i'm wondering if it's a better idea to put them someplace like /usr/local/bin instead
[19:31] <gvo> bekks we do know he's out of inodes.
[19:32] <CaitlynUnity> since i dont want them to be dependent on my account
[19:32] <gvo> bekks he has 3 gb free and only 1000 inodes free.
[19:32] <DocOC> gvo, bekks is onto the right track. try this: for i in /* ; do echo $i;find $i -type f|wc -l;done
[19:33] <gvo> Varazir: find /usr -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[19:33] <bekks> Looking for the number of files is useless. Better look for directories wasting space in first instance.
[19:33] <gvo> dococ we already know most of the files are under user.
[19:34] <robin_be> cipherboy: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt   gives: mount: apparaat /dev/sda5 bestaat niet     (device /dev/sda5 does not exists)
[19:34] <jrib> CaitlynUnity: /usr/local is a good spot (assuming you can't get them through the repositories)
[19:34] <gvo> dococ did you see his pastebin?
[19:35] <bekks> gvo: The number of files is irrelevant actually.
[19:35] <cipherboy> robin_be: pastebin the output of  sudo fdisk -l
[19:35] <DocOC> I did not see his pastebin. So, same thing in /usr
[19:35] <gvo> bekks not if he's got a bunch of small files.
[19:35] <CaitlynUnity> ah yes, thanks.. I had to make them from the console, so no package manager alas.. should i put them in /usr/local/bin/myexampleircd/ r just /usr/local/myexampleircd
[19:35] <bekks> gvo: /usr/src with a few kernels easily maxes out 1M files - using a few GB only.
[19:35] <cipherboy> robin_be: it sounds like your drive moved or something?
[19:35] <robin_be> cipherboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000583/
[19:35] <bekks> gvo: IF - which is still unclear.
[19:35] <DocOC> bekks, number of files is exactly the issue. Each file takes an inode. He is out of inodes.
[19:36] <Varazir> :)
[19:37] <cipherboy> robin_be: does ls show /dev/sda5?
[19:38] <robin_be> ls: kan geen toegang krijgen tot show: Bestand of map bestaat niet   (no access, file or folder does not exist)
[19:39] <cipherboy> robin_be: Does ls /dev/sda* show your other partitions?
[19:39] <robin_be> cipherboy: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4
[19:39] <Varazir> gvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000591/
[19:40] <bekks> Varazir: Clean up /usr/src then.
[19:40] <bekks> Varazir: cd /usr/src/yourkerneldir/; sudo make clean
[19:41] <Varazir> will do thanks :)
[19:43] <cipherboy> robin_be: This is interesting... What does `dmesg | grep 'sda' ` say (pastebin please)?
[19:44] <robin_be> cipherboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000607/
[19:44] <woo> DocOC: I figured it out ty for all your help
[19:44] <Varazir> can't I j ust delte all dirs except my current kerneldir ?
[19:44] <bekks> No.
[19:44] <Varazir> ok
[19:45] <DocOC> woo, update-alternative --config java did it for you?
[19:45] <bekks> Varazir: That might break packages - uninstall all linux-image / linux-headers packages you dont need.
[19:45] <woo> DocOC: ya that and started a new class
[19:45] <DocOC> very cool. Glad you got it worked out.
[19:46] <DocOC> woo, next step: set up eclim ;)
[19:46] <cipherboy> robin_be: How old is this disk? It looks like there is an IO error on it, hence why it isn't finding the last few partitions.
[19:47] <Varazir> I have source since apr last year :S
[19:47] <Varazir> 3.2.0.23
[19:47] <Hedge> My first time using an IRC, what are you guys talking about?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> hedge: this is ubuntu support only
[19:48] <robin_be> cipherboy: 2-3 years :s
[19:48] <bekks> Varazir: Yeah, delete all kernels and headers you do not need. Remove the packages, then remove the stuff left over in /usr/src/
[19:48] <Hedge> I am sorry I thought it was a discussion irc I will disconnect
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> hedge: chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cafe-ubuntu
[19:48] <diphtherial> hey, i'm attempting to help a friend dual boot windows and ubuntu on his machine (he has windows installed currently)
[19:49] <PoolShark_> hi all
[19:49] <reisio> hi pool
[19:49] <diphtherial> i'm unfortunately not physically at the machine, but he claims that even after installing ubuntu to another partition his machine just boots into windows without giving him an option to choose the other partition to boot from
[19:49] <cipherboy> robin_be: Hmm, shouldn't be too old then... Check the smart status on the drive then?
[19:49] <DocOC> diphtherial, the installer will give you the choice to keep existing partitions, and set up the grub boot menu.
[19:49] <robin_be> cipherboy: how can I do that?
[19:49] <PoolShark_> diphtherial: Ubuntu doesn't always install grub on the correct disk
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: is it uefi based?
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> diphtherial:  its possible it put grub on the wrong drive. or failed to install grub.
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | diphtherial
[19:50] <reisio> correct varies
[19:50] <PoolShark_> diphtherial: the motherboard is pribably still set to boot from the windows drive, and Ubuntu probably did not install grub on that drive
[19:50] <diphtherial> PoolShark_: i'm of the same opinion
[19:50] <reisio> diphtherial: can probably fix it with easybcd from the windows end
[19:50] <PoolShark_> diphtherial: the installer is counter-intuitive.. you have to tell it you don't want to install Grub to be given the option to install it in the correct location
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: did s/he install using wubi
[19:51] <reisio> well, there's no one correct location
[19:51] <PoolShark_> reisio: the point is that the default location it chooses is almost never correct in multi-drive systems
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: can ee get some details about the setup etc...
[19:51] <reisio> PoolShark_: if you said almost never the simplest solution for end users, I might agree :)
[19:52] <cipherboy> robin_be: smartctl -a /dev/sda    ; might need to install it though first, not sure if livecd has it.
[19:52] <diphtherial> heh, apologies, still getting information from the guy
[19:52] <phantomcircuit> im trying to install on a GT60 dual boot with windows 8
[19:52] <diphtherial> i appreciate the help thus far; he claims he installed ubuntu to the same drive, so he apparently only has one
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[19:52] <phantomcircuit> when i try in UEFI mode the screen is blank but it's clearly booted
[19:52] <diphtherial> he has this motherboard: http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4482#ov
[19:52] <reisio> diphtherial: probably just that fix grub link should do it, then
[19:52] <reisio> although potentially not if it already failed once
[19:52] <PoolShark_> reisio: well, I'm just speaking from experience.. I've never had an installer that wanted to put Grub in the right place
[19:53] <PoolShark_> in a multiple-drive, or complex system
[19:53] <diphtherial> he claims that he's attempted to install grub without any change
[19:53] <reisio> PoolShark_: I think it asks if you do the manual partitioning
[19:53] <reisio> diphtherial: then we might need his fstab, his grub.cfg, etc.
[19:53] <robin_be> cipherboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6000633/
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: you can chroot from livecd and install grub
[19:54] <Varazir> bekks: deleted all 3.2.0.2x source files and now it's working
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: look for a guide at omgubuntu named "sticking it to grub"
[19:54] <Varazir> thanks for the help everyone :)
[19:54] <PoolShark_> Varazir
[19:54] <PoolShark_> np
[19:54] <PoolShark_> heh
[19:55] <Varazir> gvo and bekks :)
[19:55] <sabret00the> Does anyone know how to get the Firefox Nightly Ubuntu PPA back up and running? It's been down for a couple weeks now.
[19:55] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, quickboot is disabled, secureboot is disable
[19:55] <phantomcircuit> i dont think this is really a UEFI problem but rather an issue with there being both integrated and dedicated video cards, intel/nvidia
[19:55] <bekks> sabret00the: You cant do it - you have to contact the author.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: what gpu do you use?
[19:55] <Varazir> and DocOC too :)
[19:56] <DocOC> you are welocme, Varazir
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, uh well on win8 you use both, the dedicated card is used for specific applications
[19:56] <diphtherial> ActionParsnip: taking a look at this video now, thanks
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> there isn't a BIOS setting to pick one
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:56] <sabret00the> bekks: Thanks, I've tried a few different methods with no joy. Thought maybe there was a method to automate it.
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> afaict
[19:56] <phantomcircuit> will do
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: you will need bumblebee to support your switchable mess. You have my nightmare pc
[19:57] <PoolShark_> anyone ever mess with NIC bonding in Linux?
[19:58] <cipherboy> robin_be: I would be cautious about using it... perhaps get a new disk and start cloning it. While it isn't that old, the two read errors when you tried to boot it (I assume those are from when you tried booting it and it failed on unknown partition) would worry me if it was my drive. You could try manually creating a device file for it (I forget how off the top of my head, try google) but not sure if that will work.
[19:58] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, bumblebee as in the software that removed /usr on uninstall?
[19:58] <phantomcircuit> :(
[19:58] <PoolShark_> I'd like to aggregate multiple NICs into one *physical* link but everything I read talks about *logical* links that don't truly aggregate their available throughput
[19:58] <markr> hello, i am running 12.04 on an acer aspire 7560 and am having issues with the keyboard backspace key behaving odd. mainly in firefox and terminal i think it is a layout issue however i have tried all of the english layouts to no avail. could someone help
[19:58] <reisio> markr: define odd
[19:59] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, sadly nouveau.blacklist=1 still gives me a blank screen, the blacklight is on though so im sure the kernel is loaded
[19:59] <robin_be> cipherboy: okay thanks for your help
[19:59] <phantomcircuit> probably i could install from memory but that's a bit risky
[19:59] <markr> other keys are behaving odd as well such as the the left shift key. it skips the last letter and deletes the second to last one and places the cursor there
[19:59] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, is there an equivalent to blacklist the intel driver?
[19:59] <PoolShark_> that is odd indeed
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: no idea. i dont use switchable nonesense. I think its a nasty hack
[20:00] <markr> it does not seem to be present in empathy though
[20:00] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, it absolutely is a nasty hack
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: you can use the same blacklist method for the intel driver
[20:00] <phantomcircuit> for some reason things work fine in LEGACY boot mode
[20:00] <phantomcircuit> it's intel_agp right
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> poolshark: if they are on the same LAN you wont get extra speed
[20:01] <Gnea> !ppa
[20:01] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, i actually have ubuntu installed, but it only boots if i set LEGACY boot mode
[20:01] <phantomcircuit> if i switch to UEFI it boots win8
[20:01] <PoolShark_> ActionParsnip: that's been my experience so far yes
[20:01] <phantomcircuit> so ... it kind of works...
[20:01] <markr> looking over the forums the suggestion on other acer models to disable legacy usb support came up empty because this models bios does not have legacy usb support
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: is the OS fully updated?
[20:02] <PoolShark_> I've gotten higher speed with balance-rr but the packet loss rate is pretty high due to timing variances
[20:02] <phantomcircuit> ActionParsnip, yeah
[20:02] <phantomcircuit> the restricted drivers stuff doesn't detect the nvidia gpu
[20:03] <phantomcircuit> installing them manually is very much a "sort of works" thing
[20:03] <phantomcircuit> the screen resolution is so wrong there's no way to access the sidebar
[20:03] <phantomcircuit> i actually dont want to use the nvidia card at all under ubuntu though so that doesn't matter
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> run the nvidia-settings tool and select a proper res
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> You got a dual gpu Optimius system then? with intel and nvidia?
[20:04] <phantomcircuit> Dr_Willis, lol i cant since i cant do much of anything
[20:04] <phantomcircuit> Dr_Willis, yup
[20:04] <markr> i am still downloading updates  on this install, however it was present in 13 as well
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> phantomcircuit:   then you need to be checking out the optimus wiki page/guides
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=optimus
[20:05] <IMTheNachoMan> hey guys. ive install libexif-gtk but i cant figure out where it installed or how to run it. anyone have an ideas?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> phantomcircuit: you dont need the proprietary driver. you need bumblebee
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !bumblebee
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> IMTheNachoMan:  whats in that librry you feel you need to 'run' ?
[20:06] <thestoner> can any1 pm me to help me with dns settings
[20:07] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_Willis: http://libexif.sourceforge.net/ - I want to run gexif. From what I'm reading its a GUI tool to let me edit EXIF data
[20:07] <thestoner> please and thanks
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> !find gexif
[20:07] <DocOC> thestoner, are you trying to get name resolution working, or are you trying to configure a dns server?
[20:08] <thestoner> trying to switch the address of the dns
[20:08] <thestoner> so i use a different one
[20:08] <DocOC> thestoner, do you use dhcp for your network interface?
[20:08] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_Willis, ??
[20:08] <thestoner> i think so in case how do i find out
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> IMTheNachoMan:  the bot seems to think its in one of those packages. I dont see it however.. so  it may be obsolete
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/libexif/files/gexif/0.5/
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> IMTheNachoMan:  last modified 2003 - looks like it may be a dead project to me.
[20:11] <IMTheNachoMan> Dr_Willis, oh. damn. okay...thanks
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> thestoner: nm-cli ,will tell you probs
[20:11] <phantomcircuit> hmm
[20:12] <phantomcircuit> so bumblebee could help once i've installed
[20:12] <DocOC> ok, so this is a desktop computer. In the upper right-hand corner of your panel, there is a little network icon. You can click on that, and configure your interfaces.
[20:12] <phantomcircuit> but i cant seem to get anything but a blank display installing with UEFI
[20:13] <phantomcircuit> and i'd rather not have to switch between legacy/uefi everytime i want to switch
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> at least you can switch to legacy. some people cant even get that working
[20:15] <DocOC> I believe ctrl-x will save and close in nano
[20:16] <reisio> says at the bottom
[20:16] <wouter__> I am planning on buying some hardware to setup an ubuntu based server. Motherboard is going to be a asrock b75 pro3-m.  Is there a hardware compatibility list somewhere so I know I am going to be fine?
[20:16] <juvani> looking for a web tool to schadule mysql db backups, something like backuppc for filesystems. Any ideas guys?
[20:17] <DocOC> reisio, yeah, I never use it tho. Vim or die.
[20:17] <reisio> juvani: why a web tool?
[20:17] <reisio> DocOC: hear hear
[20:17] <bekks> !hcl | wouter__
[20:17] <diphtherial> hmm, is there any way to tell from windows what the device name of this guy's hard disk will be?
[20:17] <reisio> diphtherial: not exactly
[20:17] <reisio> diphtherial: did you figure out if it was in fact one disk with both Windows and Ubuntu on it?
[20:18] <diphtherial> yes, it's the same physical drive; he installed it to a separate partition
[20:18] <juvani> reisio: easy to browse my backup history and do restore
[20:18] <diphtherial> he's also able to boot the live cd fwiw
[20:18] <reisio> diphtherial: did you try the boot repair stuff yet?
[20:20] <wouter__> Hardware comp list there does not seem to support a lot of newer hardware.
[20:20] <diphtherial> i believe he tried to reinstall grub, but for some reason the windows boot loader remains and just knocks him into windows on boot
[20:20] <diphtherial> he seems convinced that somthing in the BIOS is preventing modification of the bootloader
[20:21] <wouter__> Any known issues installing ubuntu on ssd's?
[20:21] <daftykins> nope
[20:21] <caskaid> does anyone know offhand the gnome3 hotkey that shows rings around the mouse cursor? Similar to the rings seen when you go to the activities hot corner?
[20:22] <reisio> diphtherial: that wouldn't be my first guess
[20:22] <wouter__> Any known issues using CPU's that support Intels HD4000?
[20:22] <reisio> diphtherial: if you can have him pastebin his /boot/grub/grub.cfg, his /etc/fstab, and the output of fdisk -l (or gdisk -l /dev/sda), we can rule some things out
[20:22] <DavidPesta> #php
[20:25] <d4rk0n3> need a little help... well more like a question if anyone could help me
[20:26] <BluesKaj> d4rk0n3, just ask
[20:26] <PoolShark_> can't help you if we don't know what the question is
[20:26] <markr> reisio;any ideas on the keyboard issue?
[20:26] <reisio> markr: backspace thing?
[20:26] <markr> reisio: yes
[20:26] <Lecter> hi
[20:27] <reisio> markr: did you ever 'define'?
[20:27] <reisio> Lecter: hi
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> wouter__: the default drivrr should run it ok
[20:27] <wouter__> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[20:28] <d4rk0n3> well its not really a issue but when I issue the ''netstat'' command i get this.  http://pastebin.com/4uWWMy2u What does it mean "?
[20:29] <markr>  reisio; when backspacing it skips the last letter then deletes the next i.e. hobbit would be hobbt with the cursor after the last b
[20:29] <diphtherial> hmm, is there a foolproof way for him to determine with /dev/sda* device is his windows drive? i believe he only has one physical drive in the machine
[20:29] <bekks> d4rk0n3: It tells you that some application is terminating communicating with IPv6 localhost Port 631.
[20:29] <diphtherial> not sure if he has external storage, but i can tell him to disconnect it
[20:29] <reisio> markr: that is weird
[20:30] <bekks> diphtherial: Take a look at sudo blkid -g
[20:30] <d4rk0n3> bekks,  i know but when i look into it it doesnt have a program associated to it
[20:30] <markr>  reisio also trying to put a colon left shift with ; outputs an 9 and scrolls up here
[20:30] <bekks> d4rk0n3: Because the network communication is terminating, and the application already terminated. The application on Port 631 is the webinterface of cups.
[20:31] <reisio> markr: no idea
[20:31] <markr> reisio tyvm
[20:32] <reisio> markr: works fine from live OS?
[20:32] <d4rk0n3> bekks,  oh so its os's doing ?
[20:32] <markr> reisio same issue in live os
[20:33] <markr> reisio i think its just a funky keyboard layout that may not be defined
[20:33] <markr> reisio the keys across the bottom are ctl fn windows alt space alt gr print ctrl arrow left arrow down arrow right
[20:33] <reisio> markr: you got a live OS that isn't Ubuntu?
[20:34] <markr> reisio no i do not. that was going to be my next step though
[20:34] <reisio> markr: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: sudo parted -l
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: or mount the partitions and check. Ubuntu can read and write ntfs
[20:42] <bluefox83> is there a utility like fsck that can get the job done faster? i have a 1tb disk with errors that needs fixed >.>
[20:42] <bluefox83> thus far i let fsck run for 18 hours before i finally ended it, and it wasn't even finished checking the drive :(
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> blufox83: the drive speed will dictate speed
[20:42] <bluefox83> i know
[20:43] <daftykins> bluefox83: it's unmounted and not the booted disk i take it?
[20:43] <bekks> bluefox83: There is no other tool.
[20:43] <bluefox83> daftykins: of course
[20:43] <jrib> bluefox83: this is ext4?
[20:43] <bluefox83> eh, i think it might be ext3
[20:43] <diphtherial> ActionParsnip: ah, neat, thank you :)
[20:43] <bluefox83> it's been on there a few years sooooo...
[20:43] <jrib> bluefox83: apparently fsck on ext4 is supposed to be faster; not that that helps you now
[20:44] <Agamemnus> i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm trying to enable copy/paste from Windows to my virtual Ubuntu box via Oracle's VM Virtualbox... and it's not working. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[20:44] <bluefox83> jrib: i've read that as well
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> agamemnud: ask in #vbox too
[20:45] <bluefox83> so i'm using testdisk at the moment to try and see if it will repair anything...but i don't even know if it does what fsck does or not...
[20:45] <daftykins> Agamemnus: guest additions installed?
[20:45] <Agamemnus> just reading that
[20:45] <Agamemnus> but now I forgot how to actually install things
[20:46] <Agamemnus> too much stuff going on in my head
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> agamemnus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73059/how-to-copy-paste-with-virtualbox-from-ubuntu-host-to-windows-guest
[20:46] <Agamemnus> i was trying "sudo install virtualbox-guest-additions"
[20:46] <Agamemnus> something is missing
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> agamemnus: command is wrong and the additions arent in the repos
[20:47] <Agamemnus> what should the command look like?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ahamemnus: look in the top menu bar in the guest OS window
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Agamemnus  sudo apt-get install .......
[20:47] <bluefox83> it's actually on the installation
[20:48] <Agamemnus> apt-get
[20:48] <bluefox83> or at least i think it is >.>
[20:48] <Agamemnus> it's downloading
[20:48] <Agamemnus> thanks
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-guest-additions
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> thought not
[20:51] <bluefox83> how do i find out if a disk is ext3 or ext4?
[20:51] <bekks> sudo blkid
[20:52] <bluefox83> k
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> blufox83: sudo parted -l
[20:52] <diphtherial> seems to be a popular answer lately
[20:52] <diphtherial> i didn't even know parted existed, would've saved me so much time in the past
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: are you aware of gparted?
[20:54] <bluefox83> now all i need to do is figure out how large a particular directory on that drive is, and then see if i have a spare HD i can use to move everything to (i doubt i have a drive large enough, but we'll see...) and then format that puppy to ext4
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> blufox83: du -sh /containing/folder
[20:54] <bluefox83> i guess i need to mount the drive before i do that?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: will show the size of all files and foldes (total per folder) in /containing/folder
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: partition. you don't mount drives
[20:56] <diphtherial> oh, does the device have to be mounted for parted to display information about it?
[20:56] <bluefox83> no
[20:57] <diphtherial> aha, thanks
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: no, as long as the filesystem is visible it will be shown
[20:57] <bluefox83> also, i meant i just need a total size of a specific partition...not a list of sizes (i really hope that's why it's taking so long....)
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: then run: df -h
[20:58] <diphtherial> when booting from a live CD, is there a password for the root account?
[20:58] <bluefox83> how about a size of a directory?
[20:58] <diphtherial> er, or would you be prompted to type a password when using sudo?
[20:58] <reisio> diphtherial: you can set one if you feel the need
[20:58] <bluefox83> not the size of everything in a list...which is taking an awful long time O.o
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: no. you can get a root prompt with: sudo -i
[20:59] <diphtherial> ah, thanks, just making sure there aren't any unexpected impediments in the directions i'm giving this fellow
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: you can do anything in a livecd session you can in an installed OS but reboot
[21:01] <bluefox83> i wonder how long it would take to copy all of 230G to my laptop over my network...my router isn't very good >.>
[21:02] <FastCode> @bluefox:why not connect your laptop directly then?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: depends on lots of factors. do it overnight is how i'd do it
[21:02] <bluefox83> hrm.....i just had an idea >.>
[21:02] <FastCode> bluefox83: also you can gzip your data
[21:03] <bluefox83> what if i created another partition on the drive and copied it over, formatted the original partition to ext4, then copied everything back and resized the partition...would that erase my data? O.o
[21:04] <bluefox83> i only have 230G of data, and it's a 1tb drive....
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> if you are careful. no
[21:04] <reisio> bluefox83: you mean resized then copy everything back?
[21:04] <linuxliam> and recommendations for ftp uploading/downloading
[21:04] <bluefox83> yeah...
[21:04] <reisio> bluefox83: should be fine unless either drive fails physically :p
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: install openssh-server and use sftp
[21:05] <reisio> bluefox83: use rsync -av to be sure you copy it all properly
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: much more secure than an ftp server
[21:05] <ai6pg> cd
[21:05] <FastCode> and if using cp use the '--preserve=all' switch
[21:05] <reisio> which is to say it's secure at all ;)
[21:05] <bluefox83> OR, just create another partition...one way bigger but of ext4, then copy it all to that...then once the copying is done, just remove the old partition and resize the new one to just take up all the space?
[21:05] <reisio> don't use cp for 230GB of data ;p
[21:06] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: im not looking to run an ftp server only connect to one
[21:06] <FastCode> reisio: why?
[21:06] <bluefox83> keep in mind i'm talking about moving data from one partition to another, on the same disk >.>
[21:06] <zangaroo> reisio, whats the alternative ?
[21:06] <zangaroo> rsync ?
[21:06] <reisio> bluefox83: you could, but if you have the space, not resizing the final partition at all is bestest
[21:06] <reisio> zangaroo: yeah
[21:06] <djzn> is there any software engineering channel in freenode?
[21:06] <reisio> FastCode: 'cause if it's interrupted you're boned
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: so a client, not a server?
[21:06] <reisio> FastCode: and there's no simple way to verify it copied regardless
[21:06] <linuxliam> yea
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> djzn: ##programming
[21:07] <djzn> ActionParsnip, thanks
[21:07] <FastCode> reisio: no you are not, you can simply continue with -n
[21:07] <reisio> you can re-run the same rsync command to both 1) verify everything is copied and 2) to resume if interruptred
[21:07] <reisio> FastCode: nope
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: why did you not say client then?
[21:07] <FastCode> now that i think about it, I'm not sure if it resumes the last file
[21:07] <reisio> -n doesn't care if files match or not, only if they already exist
[21:07]  * zangaroo never learned rsync
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: ftp isnt just a client. it is a server too
[21:07] <reisio> zangaroo: rsync -av foo bar, all there is to it
[21:07] <reisio> without -v is a little faster, for those long ones
[21:08] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: i know sorry long day over here
[21:08] <zangaroo> how does rsync verify ?
[21:08] <bluefox83> foo is the origin, and bar being the target?
[21:08] <reisio> zangaroo: just run the same command again
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: so a "recommendation for ftp upload/download" does not distinguish you wanted a client
[21:08] <zangaroo> i mean does it use md5 ?
[21:08] <reisio> zangaroo: by default it checks if the files exist, copies them if they don't, finishes copying them if they weren't fully copied
[21:08] <reisio> zangaroo: good question
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: nautilus can connect to ftp and files will appear like files on your pc
[21:09] <reisio> zangaroo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync#Determining_which_parts_of_a_file_have_changed maybe
[21:09] <reisio> it uses something :)
[21:09] <bluefox83> linuxliam: filezilla is also kinda ok...
[21:09] <reisio> bluefox83: yes indeed, source, destination
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: ftp sends usename, password and data as plain text. I suggest you dont use it over the web
[21:09] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: nautilus just seems to crash or just not display anything at all
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: why bother, nautilus connect to ftp and is in a default install
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: gftp or filezilla then
[21:10] <bluefox83> reisio: and that's totally recurvise? i have a loooooot of files and directories in a particular dir
[21:10] <reisio> bluefox83: yup
[21:10] <zangaroo> reisio, nice looks like using rsync from now on
[21:10] <reisio> bluefox83: try it out on a test dir
[21:10] <reisio> zangaroo: yes sir
[21:10] <Lecter> hello, is there a reason why I must put the ubuntu cd romwhen im using synaptic?
[21:10] <reisio> and if you're interested in _incremental_ backups, check out rdiff-backup, which is basically just rsync for incremental backups :p
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> lecter: remove the cd as a package source
[21:11] <reisio> Lecter: pardon?
[21:11] <daftykins> Lecter: sounds like the CD source hasn't been disabled, you might be able to disable the CD source in software sources
[21:11] <bluefox83> hrm...gonna have to get X running on that machine so i can use gparted and create that new partition....
[21:12] <ikonia> bluefox83: you could use parted or fdisk to save installing X
[21:12] <Lecter> how do I remove the cd source in softwares sources?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> lecter: or edit sources.list and comment out the top few lines.
[21:12] <Lecter> how do I remove the cd from the sources?
[21:13] <bluefox83> uh...wouldn't it just be hella easier to say open "software source" in software center and unselect the cdrom?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> lecter: or software centre can do it. no idea why you are using synaptic when softwarecentre does everything you can need
[21:13] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: im not the admin for the server so im not too fussed as no sensitive data is there
[21:13] <FastCode> Lecter: /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:13] <Lecter> software center doesnt allow librairies management for development
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> lecter: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the top few lines
[21:13] <FastCode> Lecter: remove the line starting with cdrom
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Alpha amd64 (20120724.2)]/ dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> for example... ;)
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> first line here
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: their funeral.
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> for some reason i seem to have more then one.
[21:15] <bluefox83> so, i'm installing ubuntu-desktop (since i know that's not a real package, it just gets a desktop up and running) i'm wondering how do i get rid of all that junk once i'm done with it?
[21:15] <linuxliam> ActionParsnip: hehe he's a windows user
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83:  what junk.. remove what you dont need later with the package manager tools
[21:15] <bluefox83> would sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop work?
[21:15] <Csabi33669> hello,im using lubuntu and i installed right now the compiz evrithing is works fine,but when i connect external monitor to my laptop it will very laggy about 1fps .can anyone add me a advice what should i do?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  whats your video card  chipset and what driver are you using?
[21:16] <bluefox83> Csabi33669: you can start by installing the proper video card drivers...
[21:16] <bluefox83> which can be...rediculously over complicated anymore >.>
[21:17] <bluefox83> wow, just checking out what is getting installed on my box makes me miss debian D:
[21:17] <chocolate> Hi, everyone! I'm having a problem, I have `a problem running intellijIDEA on Ubuntu
[21:18] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis, my video card is intel gma 945,how can idecide what my vga driver is corrently using?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  intel should be allready installed by default.
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  im not clear on how you are using compiz in lubuntu, (or why you would want to actually)
[21:18] <chocolate> It doesn't start.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> linuxliam: sounds about right. i suggest you inform him how secure ftp isnt
[21:18] <bluefox83> what the heck is intellijIDEA? O.o
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> chocolate:  run it from terminal, look for error messages
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: ubuntu is based on debian, so how can you miss it?
[21:19] <chocolate> I get the error "No Java JDK found"
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> !java | chocolate
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> so install a JDK ;P
[21:19] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: ubuntu comes with a LOOOOT of stuff that i don't want...
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> !mini | bluefox83
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> chocolate: try the webupd8 java ppa for oracle java
[21:20] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis, just because i liked a video about the compiz on youtube
[21:20] <bluefox83> yeah..uh i was referring to just doing apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:20] <chocolate> java version "1.8.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b100) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.0-b42, mixed mode)
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: its still debian based
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  id disable compiz. and se eif it works properly
[21:20] <chocolate> That is my Java verizon
[21:20] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: i know, which is why i do still like ubuntu
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> bluefox83:  you told it to install that extra stuff.. so its doing what you told it to do. ;P
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: you can use mini install and build up from clu
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> cli
[21:21] <bluefox83> Dr_Willis: of course, i told it to install whatever the default is that comes with "ubuntu-desktop" i just forgot how much stuff comes with it
[21:21] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis, it's seems like i have to disable it (when i disable it works perfect)
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: i use minimal then install xdm and openbox
[21:22] <bluefox83> cool
[21:23] <bluefox83> this isn't as painful as installing debian from floppies back in 2003 though...that sucked sooooooooooooo much >.>
[21:23] <bluefox83> i didn't have a cd/dvd burner at the time...hehe
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: i was on mandrake then. on cd
[21:23] <bluefox83> i used that too!
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  compiz on Lubuntu is like big fancy muffler/airdams and spoilers... on a Geometro....
[21:24] <bluefox83> i broke mandrake so many times >.>
[21:24] <bluefox83> lol Dr_Willis
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Csabi33669:  i find that things tend to work a lot better if you stick to the defaults. :) untill you get the fundamentals learned. then you can start playing with things
 that is such a good anology
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> chocolate:  but i bet most kids these days dont know what a 'geo metro' is ;)
[21:25] <chocolate> My friend used to drive one
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Wife still misses her old Geo.. :P
[21:25] <chocolate> I miss it even thought it wasn't mine
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> Im old.. and need to update my Analogys..
[21:25] <sagredo> hi
[21:25] <bluefox83> you know, for such a small 4 cylinder car...you would think those things would be better on gas and be a bit more dependable...
[21:25] <sagredo> can someone please help me manually mount an external HD
[21:25] <sagredo> i am having some difficulty
[21:25] <chocolate> What would be the modern Geo?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  what are you doing to mount it exactly?
[21:26] <sagredo> Dr_Willis:  i am stressing big time my friend
[21:26] <bluefox83> eh, the modern geometro is actually quite nice >.>
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: what filesystem does the partition use?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  so mount it by hand/cli and give us the error messages  and command you are using
[21:26] <bluefox83> the old 90's ones were death traps though >.>
[21:26] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: normally i just connect my HD via USB but Ubuntu is saying DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  dont rely on the auto-mounting stuff. :) do it the old skool way
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[21:27] <chocolate> Have you turned off your computer and turned it on again?
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo mkdir /media/TestDrive
[21:27] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: okay, may you suggest a guide?
[21:27] <sagredo> right
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal before physically unplugging it?
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount /dev/sdXX  /media/TestDrive -o OPTIONS YOU MAY NEED GO HERE
[21:27] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: of course not
[21:27] <bluefox83> chocolate: whoa! this ain't windows!
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: then thats why
[21:27] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: I tried copying a .mkv file
[21:27] <chocolate> It helps a little
[21:27] <chocolate> It's always a good thing to try
[21:27] <Csabi33669> Dr_Willis,  ok :)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: you need to use that feature. its not there for kicks you knoe
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  if you could see files.. then it was Mounted.. so you need to give us a bit more details as whats going on exactly.
[21:28] <sagredo> Dr_Willis:  im trying to keep up
[21:28] <sagredo> I apoligize
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: it syncs caches and so forth. thats why there is an "operation pending"
[21:28] <sagredo> the last time i came here for help
[21:28] <sagredo> someone said i would have better luck in the liveCD
[21:28] <sagredo> so thats where i am
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  if its a windows/ntfs drive. you might want to boot to windows and have windows 'check' the disk for errors.
[21:29] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: IIRC the filesystem was NTFS-quick
[21:29] <sagredo> or something
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: the os is the same in livecd
[21:29] <sagredo> Dr_Willis:
[21:29] <sagredo> when i plug it into windows it asks me to format the disc
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is it ntfs based?
[21:29] <sagredo> but i have 700GB of data
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  if the ntfs is flagged as 'unmounted uncleanly' ubuntu may refue to mount it.
[21:29] <sagredo> my entire life
[21:29] <bluefox83> so i'm wondering, would it just be faster to plug a usb live ubuntu into that machine, and boot into that and use gparted, or should i really just make it install all this junk? >.>
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is there a backup?
[21:29] <sagredo> Dr_Willis: i think i am starting to understand
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  format? that may mean the FS or disk is totally messed up
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is it ntfs based?
[21:29] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: yes
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: is there a backup?
[21:30] <sagredo> no
[21:30] <bluefox83> sagredo: you might be screwed D:
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: so why is your "important" data not baked up?
[21:30] <sagredo> its a brand new drive
[21:30] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: im on a college budget
[21:30] <bluefox83> then how does it have 700gb of data on it already!?!
[21:30] <Agamemnus> hello
[21:30] <sagredo> i cant afford another backup drive right now
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> brand new things can break
[21:30] <sagredo> it was a gift
[21:30] <Agamemnus> how do I install the 64-bit version of the mysql client?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: if it is ntfs based. plug it into a windows pc and run a full chkdsk
[21:31] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: are you sure?
[21:31] <sagredo> if the problem arose in Ubuntu
[21:31] <sagredo> while copying a TV epsidoe
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> Agamemnus:  if you have 64 bit ubuntu installed.. then  it should be using 64bit for all the packages
[21:31] <bluefox83> sagredo: you might want to try an app i found today called testdisk
[21:31] <chocolate> Well I have had bad luck once I droped my phone in water, then the backup, and then the backup of the backup i had didn't work and then I lost so much school
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: when it finishes. look in the system tray and safely remove the storage like yoy are SUPPOSED to. then unplug
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  hd fails. it fails.. or starts failing.. os dosent matter.
[21:31] <Agamemnus> maybe that's not what I need
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: it will work
[21:31] <Agamemnus> the error message in my compile is:
[21:32] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:32] <Agamemnus> "ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient"
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: if you mistreat your hardware you cannot intelligently expect it to wor
[21:32] <sagredo> how do I run CHKDSK?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> work
[21:32] <bluefox83> chocolate: did you like, drive a geo metro into a house of mirrors or something? that's terrible luck D:
[21:32] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  you may want to be trying to recover/repair the disk in windows. since its ntfs. and ask about it in #windows
[21:32] <sagredo> that is excellent advice
[21:32] <sagredo> you are wise beyond your cycles
[21:32] <chocolate> lol It was bad but the professor had the deadline extended for everyone
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> its possible you can force it to mount in linux. its also possible it may  have some severe issues
[21:33] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:33] <sagredo> how do i run CHKDSK in windows?
[21:33] <sagredo> im on win7
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: well you get a lot of people doing this stuff. its common for windows users because, honestly, they know very little about thier OS
[21:33] <sagredo> again
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> sagredo:  theres the #windows channel
[21:33] <sagredo> i deifnitely do not want to format the drive
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: and what needs to happen to make things work well
[21:33] <chocolate> I remember I helped someone recover their drive after they formated it
[21:33] <k1l> sagredo: for windows support please ask in ##windows
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> if windiows keeps asking to format the disk.. you may need to use some other tools in windows
[21:33] <bluefox83> this is already going better than it was a few days ago...at first i couldn't even get ubuntu to start...appartently when /boot is full it causes a lot of problems >.>
[21:34] <sagredo> ok sweet
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: right click the storage -> properties -> tools
[21:34] <sagredo> ok
[21:34] <sagredo> will try
[21:34] <sagredo> best regards
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: safe removal in ANY OS is important
[21:34] <sagredo> i never knew Unix even had an otpion
[21:34] <sagredo> I always safely remove in Windows
[21:34] <sagredo> and never have any problems
[21:34] <Agamemnus> anyone? is lmysqlclient the mysqlclient?
[21:34] <sagredo> but Linux just fucked this drive
[21:34] <Agamemnus> and if so how do i install it?
[21:34] <bluefox83> linux didn't, you did
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: really easy to avoid yet people still uust pull storage out and then moan when their data gets damaged
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: no. YOU did by misusing it
[21:35] <chocolate> Yeah that's true
[21:35] <bluefox83> i need to add a few more gigs of ram to that server...1 gig just isn't cutting it D:
[21:35] <sagredo> ActionParsnip:
[21:35] <sagredo> relax man
[21:35] <chocolate> It's like when I dropped my phone in water
[21:35] <sagredo> dont scare people away from Linux just because you think you are a know it all
[21:35] <chocolate> It was all me
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: when it mounts, you will see the partition in the Unity panel as well as in nautilus
[21:36] <sagredo> all I did was START COPYING a file
[21:36] <sagredo> and it stopped at 6mb of 900
[21:36] <k1l> !ot | chocolate bluefox83
[21:36] <bluefox83> chocolate: was it an android?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: just educating you so your apparently important data doesnt get lost
[21:36] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: you are not being helpful trying to force people into being wrong
[21:36] <sagredo> I was copying a file
[21:36] <diphtherial> sagredo: you're the one asking for help, remember?
[21:36] <bluefox83> i think it's a little too late for the lecture, when it's already broke >.>
[21:37] <sagredo> diphtherial: you are so smart
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: check your data and eject it properly and I bet it works just fine
[21:37] <bluefox83> sagredo: seriously though try testdisk, it works on ntfs drives :)
[21:37] <k1l> sagredo: we can stop that who is to blame for your data loss. just ask the windows support in ##windows if you want to support for that
[21:37] <diphtherial> sagredo: actually, i'm as much as a noob as you are, but i try not to let my feelings of inadequacy get in the way...
[21:37] <diphtherial> but yeah, pointless discussion, i agree
[21:37] <sagredo> lol
[21:37] <bluefox83> and testdisk is in the ubuntu repos :)
[21:38] <chocolate> So, I'm in Ubuntu and I can't seem to get it a build environment  ? Would anyone have any ideas? Pretty please?
[21:38] <bluefox83> what kind of build environment?
[21:38] <chocolate> I'm sorry I worded it wrong
[21:38] <sagredo> this just popped up
[21:38] <sagredo>  Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[21:38] <chocolate> Java
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: chkdsk and safe removal is a lot easier. if you still get issues i would start with the forensic tools
[21:38] <sagredo> anything worth taking note of before i move to windows?
[21:38] <chocolate> I'm trying to get Eclipse
[21:38] <bluefox83> oh, uhm...yeah let me think about it a minute though
[21:38] <sagredo> ActionParsnip: cheers
[21:38] <ikonia> sagredo: do what it told you to do
[21:38] <ikonia> sagredo: run chkdisk about it
[21:38] <ikonia> on it
[21:39] <ikonia> chkdsk even
[21:39] <bluefox83> i chkdsk wont work on ntfs to my knowledge >.>
[21:39] <sagredo> ikonia: in windows or ubuntu?
[21:39] <ikonia> sagredo: it's giving you the information to try to help you
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: let us know how you get on
[21:39] <ikonia> sagredo: in windows
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> sagredo: chkdsk in windows
[21:39] <sagredo> ikonia: ok thanks
[21:39] <ikonia> sagredo: it's a windows command, for a windows file system, so doing it in windows is the best approach
[21:39] <sagredo> just writing down the mount notes from Dr_Willis
[21:39] <bluefox83> sagredo: what is more convenient, using windows to check it, or ubuntu?
[21:39] <sagredo> ikonia: right ;D
[21:39] <chocolate> I know I managed to get Sublime Text 3 to compile and run Java but I can't make Eclipse compile
[21:39] <sagredo> bluefox83: i perfer using Linux
[21:39] <bluefox83> sagredo: then use checkdisk
[21:40] <sagredo> but obviously it comes with more responsibility
[21:40] <chocolate> I then tried Intellij and it didn't work
[21:40] <k1l> !details | chocolate
[21:40] <sagredo> nah
[21:40] <sagredo> im going to use chkdsk
[21:40] <bluefox83> also, checkdisk has a windows version too :)
[21:40] <chocolate> It doesn't even start up
[21:40] <sagredo> seems pretty unanimous among the support crew here
[21:40] <bluefox83> sagredo: but er, testdisk
[21:40] <bluefox83> sagredo: testdisk will run in ubuntu, and it gets great reviews
[21:40] <sagredo> eh :/
[21:40] <sagredo> not confident
[21:41] <k1l> sagredo: last warning now to stop that attitude against the volunteering supporters in here
[21:41] <bluefox83> why am i trying to get you to use that? >.> lol
[21:41] <ikonia> sagredo: for windows problems, use windows to fix, no better solution
[21:41] <bluefox83> afk switching boxes a while
[21:41] <sagredo> bluefox83: its to know about it than not IMO :)
[21:41] <bluefox83> testdisk is for like...all OS's
[21:41] <sagredo> its better to know*
[21:41] <bluefox83> afk
[21:43] <hosj> ./
[21:43] <chocolate> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and when I try to start from terminal idea-ic it gives me the error "No Java JDK found" .
[21:44] <daftykins> chocolate: sounds like you need to install a java development kit.
[21:44] <chocolate> Then I try to start Intellij and it won't run or start
[21:44] <chocolate> I do and I'm pretty sure I have it installed
[21:44] <daftykins> the oracle one?
[21:44] <chocolate> When I run java -version I get java version "1.8.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b100) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.0-b42, mixed mode)
[21:45] <daftykins> chocolate: that's a JRE, you can't develop with a runtime
[21:45] <daftykins> chocolate: follow this: http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/how-to-install-oracle-java-jdk-6-7-8-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[21:47] <chocolate> I can use other Java development IDES like Sublime Text 3 and Dr. Java
[21:47] <daftykins> perhaps they somehow don't rely upon the JDK being on
[21:48] <daftykins> chocolate: is there a reason you aren't willing to try that?
[21:48] <chocolate> No, I am
[21:48] <chocolate> I'm just making small talk
[21:48] <chocolate> Well not small talk
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> chocolate:  sounds like  the program in question may have some settings to point it to the JDK
[21:49] <chocolate> It still gives me No JDK found.
[21:49] <chocolate> It won't start from the Menu bar
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> chocolate: are there any guides you have used? are there bugs reported?
[21:50] <jonasty123dm> chocolate: maybe you can try Brackets? It's made by Adobe and the community, it's open source. Here's a review + download link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/first-look-at-brackets-for-linux
[21:52] <chocolate> No bugs I've not reported any bugs. I have used many guied
[21:52] <chocolate> guides
[21:52] <chocolate> Has anyone tried brackets for Java development?
[21:53] <jonasty123dm> I tried running it on Debian x64, but it won't run :( So I don't know, but it seems quite nice
[21:54] <chocolate> I've been using Sublime Text 3. Have you tried that on Ubuntu?
[21:56] <jonasty123dm> No,  but I don't do much programming, only basic stuff.
[21:56] <usr13> jonasty123dm: ia32-libs
[21:56] <chocolate> ah okay
[21:57] <jonasty123dm> usr13: thank you I will try installing the ia32-libs :)
[21:57] <usr13> jonasty123dm: package name = ia32-libs-multiarch
[21:58] <chocolate> :-( Brackets won't open either
[21:58] <jonasty123dm> chocolate: when I was running Ubuntu, I installed Oracle's Java via a PPA from Webupd8. I don't know if this will help, but here's a link anyway: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[21:58] <jonasty123dm> usr13: thank you :)
[21:59] <bluefox83> ok, so how do i make gparted NOT analyze and try to repair my drive when it's resizing the partition?
[21:59] <chocolate> Everyone I'm very thankful for the help I am getting
[22:01] <guntbert> bluefox83: you don't - resize operations with a damaged file system are even more dangerous :)
[22:02] <bluefox83> guntbert: surely there's a way
[22:03] <bluefox83> i just want to resize the dang partition D:
[22:04] <jonasty123dm> bluefox83: have you tried checking you're file system/ hard drive with a live CD like partedmagic? They provide useful tools for recovering data and such
[22:04] <jonasty123dm> *your
[22:04] <bluefox83> not interested in that, i want to change from ext3 to ext4 without losing my data....
[22:04] <[Gentoo]> jonasty123dm: did you know they charge for that now
[22:05] <jonasty123dm> Gentoo: Really? Didn't know that
[22:05] <russw> I'm really struggling with ufw and iptables.  ufw *should* be easy, but whenever I enable it it locks out my ssh (on port 1022) and even seems to be preventing outgoing from my server.
[22:05] <russw> anyone have  clue what's up with my ufw/iptables?  see here: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/27accb6b
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> russw: ufw enable 1022/tcp
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> should work
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> check with iptables -L
[22:06] <inclusa> Hello, I use Vim but I research Sublime, ang I ask: Why do I use Sublime? What is it diferent?
[22:06] <russw> [Gentoo]: I've done that.  the iptables -L (and ufw status verbose) are in that pastebin
[22:06] <[Gentoo]> inclusa: its a gui editor, its nice but not free
[22:07] <[Gentoo]> russw: i didnt get the paste ive not long joined
[22:07] <russw> [Gentoo]: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/27accb6b
[22:07] <jonasty123dm> bluefox: can you acces the partition?
[22:07] <bluefox83> jonasty123dm: yeah
[22:07] <inclusa> Ok, thanks
[22:08] <[Gentoo]> russw: check the sshd config? or router?
[22:08] <jonasty123dm> I think the best thing you can do is copying all your data over to an external hard drive or something and then format your partition in ext4
[22:08] <bluefox83> i have data on the partition, i want to shrink the partition, create a new one of ext4 and resize that
[22:08] <diphtherial> huh, so he has only a single physical drive, and he did attempt to fix grub by chrooting to /mnt and running grub-install from there
[22:08] <diphtherial> (essentially what they describe here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video )
[22:09] <[Gentoo]> russw: o hang on
[22:09] <diphtherial> it still just uses the regular windows bootloader and boots him into windows without giving him a choice
[22:09] <russw> [Gentoo]: no router... this is on a vps.  sshd config seems fine since it works fine prior to ufw enabling.
[22:09] <reisio> diphtherial: not really sure why that would work if it failed from the installer
[22:09] <[Gentoo]> russw: ufw dont seem to have affected iptables
[22:09] <reisio> diphtherial: if you can have him pastebin his /boot/grub/grub.cfg, his /etc/fstab, and the output of fdisk -l (or gdisk -l /dev/sda), we can rule some things out
[22:10] <diphtherial> i don't think he has a network connection when he's booting from the live cd
[22:10] <diphtherial> apparently it doesn't recognize his wired ethernet adapter
[22:10] <russw> [Gentoo]: that is my thought as well... I can't see 1022 in the iptables at all
[22:10] <diphtherial> he has this motherboard, if that helps at all: http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4482#ov
[22:10] <affine> hi everyone
[22:11] <affine> How can I go about making a bootable usb stick from any given iso?
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> russw: nothing seems to be affected in iptables there, not sure what got messed up
[22:11] <inclusa> Gentoo, I wanted to know what it makes the diferent why use it? Thank you
[22:11] <jonasty123dm> affine: are you running windows?
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> russw: i would try to remove ufw, remove all the related files, flush all iptables and try again
[22:11] <affine> jonasty123dm, ubuntu. my usb stick is in /dev/sdd1. I already tried using dd, but system monitor showed dd wasn't doing anything when I tried it.
[22:11] <russw> [Gentoo]: done that several times already :)
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> russw: or, just use iptables
[22:11] <affine> I tried dd if=~/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/sdd1 and that didn't work :(
[22:12] <russw> [Gentoo]: my thinking is that there's some iptables config happening somewhere else that is overriding ufw
[22:12] <russw> [Gentoo]: I've also started trying to get into iptables directly, but ufw is (supposed to be) just so darn easy
[22:12] <[Gentoo]> russw: seems like it but would be weird unless you had some manual script, and the fact ufw has created some chains in there
[22:13] <diphtherial> reisio: i'm asking him if he can print those out
[22:13] <affine> jonasty123dm, I'll just boot into windows and use a different program...
[22:13] <[Gentoo]> russw: iptables is easy for a basic setup just takes a day or 2 to learn
[22:13] <jonasty123dm> affine: are you sure the path to your USB stick is /dev/sdd1? Run lsblk -f in a terminal window
[22:13] <diphtherial> the whole thing's a bit awkward since he's throwing a party that i declined attending :\
[22:13] <[Gentoo]> russw: but ufw should work
[22:13] <russw> [Gentoo]: all I really need is a few ports open, and some standard iptables rules.  Seems to be begging for ufw (or a simple iptables basis)
[22:13] <reisio> diphtherial: could save them to files on the Windows sytem, but I s'pose that'd be extra effort
[22:13] <jonasty123dm> affine: and check if your USB stick isn't something like /dev/sdc1. Most USB's are /dev/sdc1
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> russw: check ufw stuff in /etc
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> russw: theres some manual stuff that can be done in there
[22:14] <diphtherial> reisio: well, hopefully he has a network connection and can pastebin them; we'll see, i suppose
[22:14] <diphtherial> thank you for your continuing help as well
[22:14] <[Gentoo]> when you removed ufw, did you remove all the configs?
[22:14] <sagredo> hello support: windows does not detect my drive at all
[22:14] <russw> [Gentoo]: it has to be outside of there.  I've purged all of ufw and started fresh and it does the smae
[22:14] <sagredo> so I tried 'testdisc'
[22:15] <sagredo> it is asking for my partition, how can I find that out?
[22:15] <jonasty123dm> bluefox: so you want to shrink a partition, and with the free space you've become, you want to create a new EXT4 partition? Sorry for late reply
[22:15] <sagredo> "please select partition table type"
[22:15] <sagredo> how can I list this?
[22:15] <jonasty123dm> bluefox83 : so you want to shrink a partition, and with the free space you've become, you want to create a new EXT4 partition? Sorry for late reply
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> russw: not sure what else to suggest
[22:16] <russw> [Gentoo]: ok - thx anyway.
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> russw: if you get some time, iptables is good to learn though
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> you have much more direct control
[22:17] <russw> [Gentoo]: my fear in doing it manually is manyfold.  a) missing "good" config that ufw et al would do b) issues blending iptables and fail2ban/psad, etc, and c) complexity
[22:29] <Gerowen> What is the minimum amount of RAM required for Ubuntu 13.04 to be installed?  I've found some system requirements but the page looks rather old.  The reason I'm asking is I used the "Startup Disc Creator" to create an Ubuntu installer on my thumb drive, I've booted from it, but it seems to have frozen at the "ubuntu" logo and the little dots.  The dots are animating, but they have been for about 20 minutes now with no progress.
[22:29] <[Gentoo]> Gerowen: i would say ~2gb
[22:29] <[Gentoo]> for full ubuntu
[22:29] <Gerowen> That's what I was thinking, this computer only has 1 GB
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | Gerowen start here
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> Gerowen: go for lighter installer and DE
[22:30] <palomer> External connections to my local http server are failing
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> text insaller on lubuntu or something
[22:30] <palomer> but internal connections aren't
[22:30] <palomer> does ubuntu install a firewall by default?
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> palomer: ufw
[22:30] <Gerowen> K, appreciate it everybody.
[22:30] <[Gentoo]> i think its disabled on default though
[22:31] <Gerowen> palomer: There is a firewall, but it runs in the background.  If you want to manage it with a GUI, check out gufw
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> palomer  ubuntu has iptables, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:31] <jonasty123dm> palomer: yes, but you have to activate it manually
[22:31] <reisio> Gerowen: 1GB should be fine
[22:31] <reisio> Gerowen: moreso if you use a DE other than the default
[22:32] <palomer> oh, so by default I should be able to accept connections
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> palomer:  theres no default firewall rules to block anything
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> palomer:  any service should work.
[22:39] <palomer> got it
[22:39] <palomer> thanks
[22:43] <Moony22> Hello
[22:43] <reisio> 'lo
[22:44] <FastCode> reisio: still copying?
[22:45] <Moony22> I have installed unity from the experimental certified ppa. After rebooting, unity is my starting. There is a segmentation fault after loading one if the plugin. Is there any way to fix this issue without in installing the new unity?
[22:45] <FastCode> reisio: it was you with the 230 GiB?right?i tend to have a lousy short term memory
[22:45] <Moony22> Uninstalling *
[22:46] <FastCode> Moony22: if you think its a configuration issue then better purge it
[22:46] <reisio> FastCode: sure
[22:46] <reisio> FastCode: oh no
[22:46] <reisio> FastCode: was talking to the guy
[22:47] <reisio> FastCode: bluefox83 maybe
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  what's the outcome of     cat /etc/issue ?
[22:47] <FastCode> reisio: right, i remember the number 83
[22:47] <reisio> don't we all
[22:47] <Moony22> FastCode, I'm somewhat new to PPA's, what does purging do?
[22:47] <FastCode> apt-get --purge remove unity
[22:48] <Moony22> What does it do?
[22:48] <FastCode> it purges the configuration files
[22:49] <FastCode> the output should be something like this:
[22:49] <Moony22> What does purging mean? :p
[22:49] <OerHeks> reversing the PPA installation
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> purge = to remove in an extreme manor.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[22:50] <Moony22> Heh
[22:50] <FastCode> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:50] <FastCode>   lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure* ubuntu-desktop* unity* unity-tweak-tool*
[22:50] <FastCode> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 137 not upgraded.
[22:50] <FastCode> After this operation, 7,342 kB disk space will be freed.
[22:50] <FastCode> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[22:50] <FloodBot1> FastCode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <lauratika> in system monitor i have for cpu showing use, why 4?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> purge:  Noun:  to rid of whatever is impure or undesirable; cleanse; purify.
[22:50] <Moony22> But is there no way to fix this issue without reverting?
[22:51] <FastCode> note the asterisk
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  Unity comes with ubuntu, why did you use a ppa?
[22:52] <Moony22> I wanted the experimental-certified version
[22:52] <Moony22> Want *
[22:52] <OerHeks> the ppa owner would love to hear your bugreport for that failing plugin
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> experimental and certified! ;)  wonder what that really means..
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  what OerHeks says, inform the maintainer about the issues you're getting with the ppa
[22:54] <Moony22> But the owner is ubuntu unity
[22:54] <FastCode> so inform ubuntu unity
[22:55] <Moony22> ... But it is certified :p
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  the ppa is maintained and owned by a person, contact that person
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  where did you find the ppa?
[22:55] <Moony22> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-certified
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> i figuerd it was the official 'testing' branch of unity, by the ubuntu devs. but ive never really heard of anyone else using it befor
[22:56] <Moony22> This is your 'person'
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> Daily build of a feature stack certified by tests.
[22:56] <Moony22> Yep
[22:56] <FastCode> quote:"For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Ubuntu Unity PS integration team."
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Ubuntu Unity PS integration team."
[22:57] <Moony22> Heh
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> FastCode  was faster :)
[22:57] <exidos> hehe
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> 0 updates added during the past month.
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> err.. so how can it be daily.. with no updates?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> latest update = 15 weeks ago
[22:58] <Moony22> How do I contact?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> I think i would be avoiding that ppa. ;)
[22:58] <FastCode> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+contactuser
[22:58] <tenguix> Any xfce users here
[22:58] <Moony22> That redirects to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity
[22:58] <reisio> tenguix: mmm
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Ubuntu Unity PS integration team.
[22:59] <OerHeks> Moony22, why don't you try this ppa, more cutting edge as you are testing now > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation
[22:59] <Moony22> OerHeks, isn't this more likely to have bugs
[22:59] <tenguix> cool. Is there a way to work around the introduction of gconf to the mix at ubuntu 13
[23:00] <tenguix> The terminal upgrade switches over to that horrible timestamped bs.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> tenguix:  what timestamped?
[23:00] <tenguix> xfce4-terminal
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> care to be a bit more specific? theres also the #xubuntu channel
[23:00] <tenguix> The quake-ish feature uses a gconf config.
[23:01] <tenguix> Oh, I'll head on over there
[23:01] <tenguix> Graci
[23:01] <reisio> tenguix: what's the problem?
[23:01] <tenguix> Not really a problem, just me being picky
[23:01] <tenguix> :)
[23:01] <reisio> tenguix: about what?
[23:01] <tenguix> xfce4
[23:01] <tenguix> and gconf.
[23:01] <tenguix> i like xfconf.
[23:01] <reisio> you still have xfconf
[23:01] <reisio> gconf is used for other things you installed
[23:02] <tenguix> Nope.
[23:02] <reisio> yes
[23:02]  * Dr_Willis still hasent actaully seen what the actual Problem is...
[23:02] <tenguix> Currently, yes. I'm using 12.10
[23:02] <reisio> there isn't one
[23:02] <reisio> tenguix: nope
[23:02] <tenguix> Allright, well youve been so helpful!
[23:02] <reisio> the only way you don't have xfconf is if your system is missing a dep on accident
[23:02] <tenguix> I have xfconf.
[23:03] <reisio> I know you do, I just said so :p
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !find xfconf
[23:03] <tenguix> Alright, let me start over.
[23:03] <reisio> I said you did and you said 'nope' ;)
[23:03] <tenguix> Hi! I'm tenguix.
[23:03] <reisio> hi :)
[23:03] <Moony22> Hi
[23:03] <reisio> Moony22: hi
[23:03] <reisio> Dr_Willis: hi
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[23:03] <Moony22> Not talking to you
[23:03] <reisio> awe
[23:04] <tenguix> I like using xfconf, and not the crappy new idea that xfce had to bring a single gconf file into the mix when they introduced their new terminal upgrade!
[23:04]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket.
[23:04] <tenguix> Should I start over again?
[23:04] <tenguix> Allright.
[23:04] <Moony22> Yes
[23:04] <tenguix> Hi I'm tenguix! What is linux?
[23:04] <reisio> tenguix: that isn't an Xfce thing
[23:04] <reisio> tenguix: it's an Xubuntu thing at most
[23:04] <tenguix> Thats the problem
[23:04] <reisio> and it's redundant to and not replacing of xfconf
[23:04] <tenguix> Well the package source has it too
[23:04] <reisio> if you don't want it, simply uninstall it
[23:04] <tenguix> I'm asking if theres a workaround dude
[23:05] <tenguix> When I boot to a live disk I can just unpack a tarfile and everything is configured. With the upgrade, I cant configure it.
[23:05] <Moony22> Does anyone actually use a  unity ppa here?
[23:05] <reisio> can't configure what?
[23:05] <reisio> Moony22: I'm not sure why anyone would
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  ive not really seen it mentioned befor
[23:05] <Moony22> New feature
[23:05] <tenguix> xubuntu 13 out of the box.
[23:06] <reisio> tenguix: what can't you configure?
[23:06] <Moony22> Dr_Willis, I did earlier
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  and you so far as about the first and only i can rember seeing in here
[23:06] <tenguix> If you had actually read what I said before, bro, youd know.
[23:06] <FastCode> i used to a few months back, but it crashed every few days, so i switched back.
[23:06] <Moony22> :(
[23:06] <reisio> tenguix: the terminal?
[23:06] <reisio> tenguix: how can you not configure it?
[23:06] <tenguix> The TERMINAL UPGRADE.
[23:06] <reisio> how can you not configure the terminal upgrade?
[23:06] <FastCode> the fun part is i have unity 7.1.0 and that ppa has 7.0.0
[23:07] <tenguix> ... Youre insane.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  :) gotta love that.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> tenguix:  you are being rather vague.
[23:07] <reisio> tenguix: can't help with vague things
[23:07] <Moony22> FastCode how?
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> somthing with xfconf, and the xfce terminal is annoying you..
[23:07] <FastCode> Dr_Willis: you just noticed?
[23:07] <reisio> but what it is, we don't know
[23:07] <tenguix> Allright. let me start over.
[23:07] <generalsu> hi i just have a quick question...when i try to download the 13.04 version for 64 bit, i get 12.04.2 instead...im kinda confused...maybe a site error?
[23:07] <reisio> generalsu: maybe, what site?
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> generalsu:  could be. You may want to try the torrents
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !torrent
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[23:08] <generalsu> official ubuntu desktop site
[23:08] <tenguix> Hi! I'm tenguix. I like xfce4! Sometimes I make tarfiles. One tarfile I have unpacks my configfiles onto a read-write ramfs with xfce4!
[23:08] <tenguix> As of ubuntu 12.10, thats no problem!
[23:08] <FastCode> Dr_Willis: How do you know all these ubotto commands? Is there a manual?
[23:08] <generalsu> ok ill try the torrents ..thanks!
[23:09] <reisio> generalsu: http://ftp.utexas.edu/ubuntu-iso/CDs/13.04/
[23:09] <Moony22> You have too many,!,
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  yep  try /msg ubotu brains
[23:09] <tenguix> As of ubuntu 13, I cant do that anymore!
[23:09] <ubu_> hi
[23:09] <Moony22> Start over
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> !brains
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> !brain
[23:09] <reisio> tenguix: why can't you?
[23:09] <reisio> ubu_: hi
[23:09] <tenguix> because after xfce4.10
[23:09] <tenguix> they pulled in some gnome-ish bull...crap
[23:09] <Moony22> FastCode, how did you get that version?
[23:09] <reisio> tenguix: and you get an error message that says...?
[23:10] <tenguix> It just doesnt do anything.
[23:10] <tenguix> Have you tried manually updating a gconf file?
[23:10] <ubu_> reisio: ERROR: Could not load classifier cascade /usr/share/opencv/haarcascades/haarcascade_frontalface_alt2.xml
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> a tar file should extact its file to the current directory.. so im not clear on how tar is related to  the terminal app..
[23:10] <FastCode> apt-get upgrade i guess
[23:10] <ubu_> reisio: was ist das problem?
[23:10] <tenguix> My tar file starts at /. it goes to /home/xubuntu/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[23:10] <tenguix> there is no more terminalrc.
[23:10] <Moony22> FastCode I think that ppa has more feature though
[23:10] <tenguix> Xubuntu 13 uses GCONF for the TERMINAL UPGRADE. As does the XFCE4-TERMINAL SOURCE PACKAGE.
[23:10] <reisio> tenguix: so you're saying your ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc is ignored?
[23:11] <tenguix> WHY THEY DID THIS, I DONT KNOW.
[23:11] <FastCode> wait, I'm on saucy
[23:11] <Moony22> Oh
[23:11] <tenguix> I'm saying there is no way to unpack a tarfile with the timestamp written to file ahead of time.
[23:11] <Moony22> Is saucy buggy?
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  its in testing.
[23:11] <tenguix> So the only solution to unpacking my pre-tarred desktop is by using solely xfconf.
[23:11] <tenguix> WHAT I AM ASKING.
[23:11] <tenguix> Well youre all incompetent, haha.
[23:11] <Moony22> I tried the live cd and it seemed very buggy. Do you notice much bugs?
[23:11] <tenguix> Lets talk about something nice.
[23:11] <FastCode> I've had less issues than the stable
[23:11] <reisio> tenguix: ...
[23:12] <Nimble> if everyone here is incompetent why are you still here?
[23:12] <reisio> tenguix: so your problem is tar spits out an error?
[23:12] <tenguix> Youre right, nimble.
[23:12] <somsip> tenguix: tar -m (check the man to make sure this does what you want)
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> sure.. blame us. ;)
[23:12] <Nimble> well
[23:12] <Nimble> problem solved :)
[23:12] <reisio> dunno wtf that was all about :p
[23:12] <Moony22> Well, is there a way I can upgrade from raring to saucy? Without formatting partition again  and all the pain? Cos I just installed raring like a couple of hours ago
[23:13] <Nimble> when it goes live you'll have the option to do an upgrade in the software update prompts
[23:13] <ubu_> hm
[23:13] <Nimble> but before then I don't know
[23:13] <reisio> Moony22: if you just did it a couple of hours ago, it might actually be cleanest and briefest to just reinstall
[23:13] <FastCode> yes, you just need to change the sources file or use the ubuntu-release-upgrade
[23:13] <reisio> oh when it goes live :), heh
[23:14] <Nimble> FastCode, is changing the sources file a recommended way of updating>
[23:14] <Nimble> I know that's how one usually changes between testing/stable on debian
[23:14] <Moony22> FastCode, what would I change it to?
[23:14] <Moony22> I have done this before with Mint, but never with ubuntu
[23:15] <FastCode> I'm a former debian user, so it's completely natural to me
[23:15] <FastCode> try ubuntu-release-upgrade then
[23:15] <Moony22> How did you?
[23:16] <FastCode> Moony22: I'm looking it up on google,wait one min
[23:17] <FastCode> found it http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
[23:18] <Moony22> Is this already installed?
[23:19] <FastCode> don' know
[23:19] <Jordan_U> FastCode: Just changing the release in /etc/apt/sources.list is *not* a valid way to upgrade, and will mostl likely break things.
[23:19] <ubu_> reisio: can you help me?
[23:20] <reisio> ubu_: I don't know what your problem is
[23:20] <ubu_> ok
[23:20] <isasha> yop
[23:20] <FastCode> I usually duplicate all lines and replace the old release name with the new one in first half
[23:20] <isasha> any idea why youtube-dl wouldn't work with dailymotion?
[23:20] <Moony22> I have just read that you can run 'sudo update-manager -d'  is this true?
[23:20] <FastCode> then apt-get update
[23:20] <isasha> I can't seem to download any videos from here :/
[23:20] <ubu_> reisio: but you see my error code?
[23:20] <FastCode> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  thats defainatly not adviceable on ubuntu systems
[23:20] <reisio> isasha: what distro?
[23:21] <isasha> mac os x
[23:21] <FastCode> :)
[23:21] <Moony22> Dr_Willis why?
[23:21] <ubu_> :)
[23:21] <reisio> uhuh...
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  it can totally break your system.. seems to be a good reason..
[23:21] <reisio> well, either you have the version of youtube-dl with the dailymotion support, and you have that support enabled
[23:21] <reisio> or you haven't
[23:21] <reisio> try #macosx
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  and the 'do-release-upgrade' tool has been written to handle the task
[23:21] <isasha> ugh… but it's the same thing. i installed it through brew
[23:22] <Bjond> isasha: have you updated recently?
[23:22] <isasha> I downloaded the latest version from git minutes ago
[23:22] <isasha> still, "ERROR: Unable to extract media URL"
[23:22] <Moony22> Is do-release-upgrade already installed?
[23:22] <Bjond> isasha: what video is it?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> !find do-release-upgrade
[23:22] <isasha> Bjond: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12dyum_etienne-de-crecy-paleo-festival-nyon-2013-concert-complet_music
[23:22] <Jordan_U> FastCode: That will most often lead to serious breakage, please do not recommend it here again.
[23:23] <Moony22> Yes no?
[23:23] <FastCode> I have done this like a dozen times on debian, but if its gonna break your systems i don't want to be the person responsible
[23:23] <Moony22> What does that mean
[23:23] <Bjond> isasha: starts downloading on my machine
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  type in the command and see if itx installed.. or query the bot.
[23:23] <isasha> wut...
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[23:23] <isasha> lemme try this with ubuntu :)
[23:23] <Moony22> I am not on my Linux system currently
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> bot says its 'standard'
[23:24] <Moony22> Which means?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> so im guess ing thats a yes.
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> does it really matter? if its not.. you install it.
[23:24] <Moony22> So I just type do-release-upgrade?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> do-release-upgrade -d  for the latest testing version i belive
[23:24] <Moony22> And it will install latest saucy?
[23:24] <crypticmofo> hi all
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  it is here.. from 13.04 to 13.10
[23:24] <reisio> hi
[23:24] <ubu_> hi
[23:25] <FastCode> with like a hundred confirmations and 'there is no going back's
[23:25] <Moony22> Got it, thanks. And how to purge a ppa?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> actually it just asked like once. :)
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[23:25] <isasha> reisio: ok, just tried on Ubuntu, same problem...
[23:25] <Moony22> Ok
[23:25] <Moony22> Thanks
[23:25] <reisio> isasha: it's possible the script is due for a bug fix
[23:25] <isasha> did you use special options or did you do something special with youtube-dl?
[23:25] <reisio> isasha: what URI are you using?
[23:25] <isasha> the exact same one I gave you
[23:26] <Bjond> isasha: I used th -t I normally do that to add the title
[23:26] <FastCode> Dr_Willis: wait, it will ask again before changing the sources.list
[23:26] <isasha> Bjond: nop. same error.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> FastCode:  dident really notice..  There we go - it just did some stuff then asked if im really really sure. ;)
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> You have to download a total of 1,863 M. This download will take
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> about 15 minutes with your connection
[23:27] <Bjond> isasha: this is what i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6001146/ youtube-dl version 2013.08.17
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> 2489 packages are going to be upgraded.   ;)
[23:27] <crypcryp> i have a question .. i don't have a cd drive right and i want to istall ubuntu .. does unetbootin still work so i can boot from my usb drive ?
[23:27] <reisio> crypcryp: quite frequently, yes
[23:27] <isasha> Bjond: this is absurd...
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> crypcryp:  theres doezns of tools like unetbootin. the pendrivelinux wwb site has several.
[23:27] <ubu_> have a problem with radiotray - cant start that - http://pastebin.com/MLx51zqY
[23:27] <Prock81> this is a general linux question, but how can i scan the lines in a file, and if each line doesnt contain a '\' and a '.', back-slash and a period... they are not together, just both anywhere with in one line? And put that output in a new file?
[23:27] <isasha> seriously, no special options, no beta from git?
[23:28] <reisio> Prock81: what?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> bbl.. upgradeing my systems. ;)
[23:28] <Bjond> isasha: when you mentioned youtube-dl not working, i did sudo youtube-dl -U a couple times
[23:28] <reisio> Prock81: egrep -v 'stuff|you|dont|want' file >> newfile
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Prock81:  i imagine whatever you need to do.. 'sed' or 'awk' can hanele it. ;)    with grep.. those 3 are the big daddies of manageing text files
[23:28] <ubu_> maybe the "frei0r-plugins" ?
[23:28] <reisio> Prock81: so, '\\|\.'
[23:28] <Bjond> isasha: otherwise it was from the ubuntu repos originally.
[23:29] <isasha> well that's great
[23:29] <ubu_> hmpf...
[23:30] <isasha> it just freezes after telling me that it's going to get the binaries from github
[23:30] <Prock81> want to grep or etc a file and show each line that does have a back-slach and a period, they are not together, anywhere on each line, and put the output in a new file
[23:30] <Bjond> isasha: does it say to hit enter?
[23:30] <ubu_> plz help...
[23:30] <FastCode> quick question:is debdelta supported on ubuntu?
[23:30] <isasha> yes
[23:30] <FastCode> isasha: yes to who?
[23:30] <Bjond> isasha: i feel like we are making progress
[23:31] <isasha> Bjond: :P
[23:31] <FastCode> ah, i see
[23:31] <isasha> well on my mac it's updating, but on my ubuntu laptop it is still doing nothing Bjond
[23:32] <Moony22> FastCode it's on here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/debdelta.1.html
[23:32] <isasha> YES! it works! thanks!!
[23:32] <Prock81> what about stuff i DO want? -->?  reisio:  egrep -v '.|\|' file >> newfile
[23:33] <isasha> are there many things that update themselves in this fashion ?
[23:33] <reisio> Prock81: -v is for invert
[23:33] <reisio> Prock81: so egrep 'stuff|i|want' vs egrep -v 'stuff|idont|want'
[23:33] <FastCode> I know the package is there, but it won't work, it just downloads one deb and not the delta and then exits
[23:33] <reisio> Prock81: it either matches what you want, or everything but what you don't want
[23:34] <Prock81> searching for a period and back-slash, anywhere with in each line, so if a line only has one dont show it, so thats the forrect formant
[23:34] <reisio> Prock81: yup, egrep -v '\\|\.'
[23:34] <Moony22> Also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDebdeltaSupport
[23:35] <bluefox83> holy cow, it's going to likely take DAYS to resize that stupid partition D:
[23:35] <reisio> bluefox83: nah
[23:35] <FastCode> still copying?
[23:35] <Prock81> when u have two \\ together, it that just a way to format the command to handle a slach
[23:35] <FastCode> its like 8 hours, right?
[23:35] <bluefox83> eh, it's still checking the fs for errors...egh
[23:36] <reisio> Prock81: \ and . both are used for special things in regex by default, so you've got to escape them
[23:36] <bluefox83> its a 1tb drive
[23:36] <reisio> Prock81: \ being the escape char :)
[23:36] <bluefox83> \\ = space in a filename
[23:36] <reisio> Prock81: if you were only trying to omit lines with the strings 'foo' and 'bar', just 'foo|bar' would work :)
[23:36] <reisio> bluefox83: hrmm?
[23:36] <reisio> that's '\ '
[23:36] <bluefox83> oh yeah!
[23:37] <reisio> because you're escaping the space, for a slightly different reason :)
[23:37] <reisio> don't usually need to escape spaces in regex
[23:37] <Moony22> Bai
[23:37] <reisio> adios
[23:37] <FastCode> TC
[23:37] <xrandr> Hello. If my video card manufacturer (nVidia) has a graphics driver available for linux, should I use that, or the one that ubuntu has selected for me?
[23:37] <reisio> bluefox83: what FS is it?
[23:38] <bluefox83> ext2 :(
[23:38] <reisio> xrandr: try'm both, see which performs better
[23:38] <bluefox83> er, ext3
[23:38] <reisio> bluefox83: ah
[23:38] <bluefox83> i need 4
[23:38] <reisio> yeah an fsck will take a while
[23:38] <bluefox83> because it's soooooooo sloooooooooow
[23:38] <reisio> but not days :)
[23:38] <FastCode> you ARE lucky its not ext2
[23:38] <reisio> are you fsck'ing an FS that you're duplicating the data of already?
[23:38] <bluefox83> i tried an fsck yesterday and all night...it failed at just over 2% completion after running 18 hours D:
[23:39] <bluefox83> eh, i'm using gparted to resize first...then i'll copy
[23:39] <xrandr> reisio: ok. I just want to be able to play my SimCity game via wine on here :)
[23:40] <bluefox83> i wonder why my monitor on my laptop keeps shutting off and blinking back on by itself O.o
[23:40] <reisio> xrandr: probably won't make a real different in that specific regard
[23:40] <reisio> xrandr: assuming both work at all, that is :)
[23:41] <FastCode> krandr: the ubuntu provided package has all the required tweaking, and believe me its not every mans job to install that freaking '.run' file
[23:41] <xrandr> FastCode: ok
[23:41] <ThePendulum> I have a bit of an issue here
[23:41] <ThePendulum> An application requires me to fill in my password
[23:41] <ThePendulum> (UNetbootin to be specific)
[23:42] <ThePendulum> But it won't take my password
[23:42] <ThePendulum> It keeps saying it's wrong
[23:42] <Bjond> !enter | ThePendulum
[23:42] <Prock81>   reisio: so it WILL show "C:\Windows\file.sys" But NOT show "C:\Windows\" or NOT show "file.sys is missing" ,But WOULD show "even thow i wouldnt want this line \n it will still report cause it has both chars im looking for.." ? Can you make an example of that? reading from a file and making a new file
[23:43] <ThePendulum> Well it's too late for that now :O
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, Does you password work in a update in the terminal?
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> your*
[23:43] <ThePendulum> It works everywhere but for the gksudo request by UNetbootin (so far)
[23:43] <ThePendulum> I log in with it, I sudo with it in the terminal
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, You don;t need to.
[23:44] <FastCode> if it's the one time you need it, sudo in the terminal and run unetbootin as root
[23:44] <ThePendulum> Well I use unetbootin occasionally, I'd rather fix it
[23:45] <ThePendulum> Or at least find out what's the issue
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> ThePendulum, Fixing it would be using it as intended.
[23:45] <bluefox83> i think i'ma stop gparted and just copy things over the network...this is rediculous...
[23:45] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: Using what as intended, if I may ask?
[23:46] <Prock81> i ran a dependency walker on a program and tring to only pick out lines with path + filename, the file is quite large would take me hours to pich through it, going to get all the files and see if i can make wine work with it
[23:47] <FastCode> bluefox83: it sometimes warns that it may leave your partition in an inconsis...whatever state, but nothing has happened to me, just sayyin'
[23:49] <Prock81> u say |\\| will look for a space, but what if i not looking for a space, just the slash and a dot
[23:49] <ThePendulum> wilee-nilee: How is starting it via Unity not the intended use?
[23:53] <bluefox83> ok, what's the best way to quickly transfer entire directories from one machine that's connected to a router by cat5 to a laptop that's connected via wifi G
[23:53] <Bjond> bluefox83: rsync?
[23:54] <bluefox83> because nautilus/smb was going like...11k
[23:54] <Vinnie_win> how do I easily get the latest gcc onto my ubuntu? Without recompiling from source?
[23:56] <bluefox83> Bjond: so that would work...how? rsync://user@192.168.1.5/location/of/files/ /where/i/want/it
[23:56] <bluefox83> kinda like that?
[23:58] <bluefox83> it's looking like i might need to also fsck my primary partition D: