[00:02] <nhaines> ixti: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6001217/
[00:02] <nhaines> I didn't manage to get it working with GROUP="foobar" so I used OWNER instead.  Change that to your username.
[00:02] <nhaines> After that it works like a charm.
[00:03] <ixti> Thanks!
[00:03] <nhaines> My pleasure.  :)  Note the idProduct=4e30.  That's changed.
[00:03] <ixti> yeah...
[00:04] <ixti> in fact I just mentioned that I had only normal mode rules at all
[00:04] <ixti> Thanks again... gonna try now :D
[00:09] <ixti> hm.. no success :((
[00:09] <ixti> I assume I had to copy only Nexus records
[00:13] <ixti> hmmm
[00:13] <ixti> probably something wrong with my usb o_O
[00:15] <flomigr> Hey guys so if i were to to update the phablet repos to cm10.2 how would i go about it??
[00:16] <flomigr> Grab the latest cm repos and then merge the conical changes on top?
[00:17] <flomigr> *canonical
[00:20] <ixti> playing with some BIOS settings didn't helped :((
[00:20] <ixti> oh...
[00:21] <ixti> i have another laptop... with old USB ports... will try on it
[00:30] <ixti> hm. no success as well o_O
[02:52] <ixti> according to udev monitor it's not even generating add event while in recovery mode o_O
[03:04] <weena> howdy!  I am having a problem. I tried to flash ubuntu on my nexus 7 3g for the first time and it wont get past the bootloader. so I wiped /data and tried again according to the instructions and still the same. I wiped (formatted) every partition except for the "black box" partitions such as radio and bootloader
[03:05] <weena> and then tried again. I am very experienced in working on mobile devices
[03:06] <weena> any ideas?
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> weena, How are you installing ubuntu would do all the formating.
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> and what ubuntu?
[03:11] <weena> the instructions said : "If the deploy fails(ex boots to black screen), try wiping the /data partition on your device and redeploy"
[03:11] <weena> 20130816.1/saucy-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img
[03:12] <weena> i am on ubuntu 13.04
[03:12] <weena> device is tilapia
[03:13] <weena> phablet-flash cdimage-touch -d grouper -b
[03:13] <weena> thats the command i used
[03:13] <weena> per the instructions since it wouldnt boot I went back into recovery and formatted /data
[03:13] <weena> then I ran it again and it flashed everything without error
[03:14] <weena> just like the first time
[03:14] <weena> i even tried flashing everything with the manual instructions
[03:15] <weena> it was pretty straight forward (the manual instructions). rooting a kindle fire HD is way more involved
[03:15] <weena> it was pretty straight forward (the manual instructions). rooting a kindle fire HD is way more involved
[03:15] <weena> sorry for the dupe (first time using this IRC client)
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> I had no problem following the wiki install with touch or the saucy build, on a nexus 7 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Instructions_for_flashing_a_phone_or_tablet_device_with_Ubuntu
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> You might just be going a route which is problematic, not sure really
[03:17] <weena> well it had android 4.3 on it before
[03:17] <weena> i had to flash the 4.2.2 factory image so the flash would even work
[03:31] <weena> i am not going about a route that is problematic i followed the instructions very carefully
[03:49] <weena> i decided to delete /Downloads/phablet-flash/ and start over
[03:49] <weena> i doubt this will help but in the off chance one of those files were corrupted during download
[03:59] <weena> ubuntu core nexus 7 installer reported : Downloaded images failed checksum validation
[04:23] <neeko> can someone help me troubleshoot an installation error I keep receiving on my galaxy nexus?
[04:23] <neeko> error: device not found
[04:23] <neeko> ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb shell mount /data' returned non-zero exit status 255
[04:25] <neeko> full log here: http://pastie.org/8249151
[04:31] <weena> you are not getting an adb connection in recovery
[04:33] <neeko> weena: yeah, I see that, but for the life of me cant see why.  just after "booting...
[04:33] <neeko> OKAY [  0.426s]
[04:33] <neeko> finished. total time: 1.602s
[04:34] <neeko> it reboots and then I get:
[04:34] <neeko> INFO:phablet-flash:Clearing /data and /cache
[04:34] <neeko> error: device not found
[04:34] <neeko> ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb shell mount /data' returned non-zero exit status 255
[04:34] <neeko> ???
[04:34] <neeko> seems like there is something broken in the script, like it is not waitinn long enough or is rebooting too early
[04:35] <neeko> I tried deleting the downloaded files to make sure they were not corrupt, that did not help
[04:35] <neeko> weena: any suggestions?
[04:38] <weena> at this point all you need to do is push the first zip (adb push)
[04:38] <weena> then reboot recovery
[04:38] <weena> then adb push the second zip
[04:38] <weena> and then reboot recovery
[04:38] <weena> when thats done, reboot
[04:38] <weena> you can do the rest manually
[04:39] <weena> adb push /path/to/your/downloaded/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+grouper.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[04:39] <neeko> well, just restored stock again.  I willtry the phablet flash once more (3rd time) and then d oit manually when/if it fails again
[04:39] <weena> adb reboot recovery
[04:39] <weena> adb push /path/to/your/downloaded/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[04:40] <weena> adb reboot recovery
[04:40] <weena> adb reboot
[04:40] <neeko> any idea why it would fail so consitantly?
[04:40] <weena> youre probally right its not waiting long enough
[04:40] <weena> so run the script and do everything after that point manually
[04:41] <neeko> I never gets back to recovery when it reboots.
[04:41] <neeko> just sits @ "google"
[04:42] <weena> i had a similar problem and it was because the nightly is borked
[04:42] <neeko> as a matter of fact, I dont think the recovery ever gets properly flashed
[04:42] <weena> if your phone is on 4.3 you need to apply 4.2.2 facgtory imagefirst
[04:43] <neeko> when I hold volume up & down, then press power, then select reboot recovery, it just sits "google"
[04:43] <neeko> well, it was on 4.2.2 the first time I flashed tonight, but from then on I have been restoring with the 4.3 images
[04:43] <neeko> I will restore with the 4.2.2 and try again
[04:44] <weena> go into fastboot
[04:45] <weena> fastboot flash recovery ~/Downloads/phablet-flash/ubuntu-touch-preview/20130712/saucy-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img
[04:46] <weena> not exactly like that i am using my files as an example
[04:47] <weena> that should fix your recovery
[04:51] <weena> i just went back to stock too
[04:53] <neeko> weena: there must be something srong with the recovery image, eben after manually flashing it still wont boot to recovery
[04:56] <neeko> alright, flashing 4.2.2 now
[06:27] <hayer> When will there be support for other devices? Like the samsung galaxy series? or the Nokia Lumia series?
[06:29] <RAOF> hayer: For the lumia series: likely never, as they're windows phone hardware and as such are bootloader locked, we don't have kernels for them, etc.
[06:29] <RAOF> hayer: Many of the Galaxies are supported now; check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[06:31] <hayer> RAOF: so working but not avaialable from cdimage.ubuntu is considered "safe/okey to use"?
[06:31] <RAOF> hayer: Depends on the device; I don't think we're going to *officially* support anything but the Nexus hardware.
[06:32] <RAOF> Although if you're comfortable flashing CyanogenMod you should be reasonably comfortable flashing UbuntuTouch.
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:24] <Saviq> is it normal that Manta turns on on double-tap?
[07:31] <MacSlow> veebers, mzanetti: no hangout this morning... or mumble?
[07:31] <veebers> MacSlow: is this WRT there being no link in the cal
[07:31] <veebers> MacSlow, mzanetti I just added a hangout to the calendar now :-)
[07:31] <MacSlow> veebers, no... just used the link from another calender-entry
[07:31] <veebers> MacSlow: ah ok
[07:32] <veebers> MacSlow: I may have mixed things up :-
[07:45] <Saviq> is it normal that nexus10 wakes up after a double-tap?
[07:48] <tsdgeos> damn, my nexus4 is dead
[07:48]  * tsdgeos reads mzanetti's email
[07:48] <mzanetti> o/
[07:49]  * tsdgeos digs the original charger
[07:50] <greyback> Saviq: it didn't do that 3 months ago anyway, AFAIC recall
[07:50] <Saviq> greyback, maybe they enabled it ;)
[07:50] <greyback> yeah, amazing feature that
[07:51] <tsdgeos> oh lol, the original adapter is american
[07:51]  * tsdgeos digs an adapter for the original adapter
[07:52] <tsdgeos> no red light, let's wait some mins
[07:54] <greyback> Saviq: for your consideration: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity-mir/workaround-authorisation/+merge/180584
[07:55] <Saviq> greyback, yup
[07:55] <greyback> many thanks!
[07:57] <diwic> ogra_, good morning! Are you up for trying out the pulseaudio image on the galaxy nexus?
[07:58] <ogra_> diwic, sure, note that i have a 2M line so a full download takes a while, where is it ?
[07:59] <diwic> ogra_, posted in PM. How long is that, 30 minutes or so?
[08:00] <ogra_> yeah, around that
[08:01] <diwic> ogra_, ok, ping me when it's installed and ready for testing
[08:01] <diwic> thanks :-)
[08:06] <ogra_> hmm, that was a short download
[08:06] <ogra_> diwic, "Please wait while Jenkins is getting ready to work..."
[08:06] <ogra_> seems jenkins just died
[08:14] <diwic> ogra_, uhm, same here :-(
[08:14] <ogra_> yay monday ...
[08:18] <om26er> ogra_, hey
[08:18] <om26er> ogra_, can you merge this branch :) https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-seeds/add_qtorganizer5-eds_to_touch/+merge/180545
[08:19] <ogra_> om26er, \o/  .... does that mean one less PPA package ?
[08:20] <om26er> ogra_, yep, I guess
[08:20] <ogra_> yay
[08:20] <om26er> ogra_, both of the packages are now in the ubuntu archives
[08:20] <didrocks> om26er: you're late! it's in distro for… hours at least :p
[08:20]  * didrocks started the week with 4 newing
[08:20] <om26er> didrocks, right, we want them on the image now
[08:20] <didrocks> om26er: well, nothing new here
[08:21]  * didrocks things ogra_ should join the archive admin team to get some help on the reviews ;)
[08:43] <dednick> anyone know when the pending touch image will switch to current?
[08:43] <ogra_> dednick, once asac approves someone pulls the trigger
[08:43] <dednick> ogra_: ok, thanks.
[08:44] <ogra_> dednick, it is based on having no regressions at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch/
[08:48] <asac> dednick: we apply rule: better or equal dashboard than previous build published to /current
[08:49] <ogra_> asac, seems systemsettle constatnly failed since 16.1
[08:49] <asac> ogra_: interestng observation... i think i have to tweak the script to show us exactly whats going on while we measure ... e.g. move from vmstat to top
[08:50] <asac> ogra_: but often we have stuff like ping etc. not working too in the same run
[08:50] <ogra_> and probably loosen the values a bit
[08:50] <asac> maybe
[08:50] <asac> we can do that for sure to get started
[08:50] <ogra_> the 17 image looks good ... 18 too
[08:50] <asac> ogra_: did you see a fail where no other default test fails?
[08:51] <ogra_> only systemsettle that was added as failure on 0818
[08:52] <ogra_> 0816.1 = 18 failures ... 0818 = 19 ...
[08:53] <asac> yeah
[08:53] <asac> i think 18 is good
[08:53] <asac> still let me fix the script
[08:53] <ogra_> well, the load is constantly over 2
[08:53] <ogra_> in the log
[08:54] <ogra_> arent you checking for the idle value ?
[08:55] <ogra_> seems matching an idle of 90 would have let it succeed in that case
[08:55] <ogra_> ah, and there comes 0819
[08:57] <chandra> hi i am new to this Ubuntu porting . Can some one help me to configure my ubuntu PC to compilet the code to build UBUNTU for tablet/phone
[09:05] <veebers> mzanetti: ping
[09:05] <mzanetti> veebers: pong
[09:05] <veebers> mzanetti: hey, how are things?
[09:05] <mzanetti> veebers: good
[09:06] <veebers> mzanetti: I was going to double check with you, I plan to mark a VM as down and take a look at these notification ap test issues. Is that going to step on any toes?
[09:06] <mzanetti> pete-woods: hey, you are working on the data sources for the infographics, right?
[09:06] <mzanetti> veebers: right now?
[09:06] <veebers> mzanetti: I had planned so, is there a better time? (perhaps during my morning?)
[09:06] <pete-woods> mzanetti: not at the moment, I'm waiting on being told to publicise the API for general usage
[09:06] <mzanetti> veebers: jenkins is down right now. feel free to jump on any VM
[09:07] <veebers> mzanetti: ah nice (well, not really)
[09:07] <mzanetti> pete-woods: just realized on the weekend that it actually work already with the camera-app
[09:07] <mzanetti> pete-woods: it says "1 photos taken today". Lacks the plural handling
[09:08] <pete-woods> mzanetti: the problem is that the number is a floating point one
[09:08] <mzanetti> pete-woods: I think that still would mean singular for == 1 and plural for everything else
[09:09] <mzanetti> like 0.5 photos would be plural too, no?
[09:09] <pete-woods> mzanetti: I guess that I wanted a solution for all languages
[09:09]  * diwic wonders how one can take 0.5 photos in the first place
[09:09] <mzanetti> pete-woods: hmm right... I don't know all languages... at least it would work for the 3 I know
[09:10] <pete-woods> mzanetti: the problem is really ones like polish
[09:10] <pete-woods> I was thinking I could special case all the whole numbers
[09:10] <pete-woods> and in that case run in through the plural form engine of gettext
[09:36] <diwic> ogra_, hey, looks like jenkins is up again now
[09:36] <ogra_> ah, thanks for the heads up
[09:57] <mhr3> Saviq, one quickie pls - https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity8/remove-hardcoded-downloadable-apps/+merge/180819
[09:58] <Saviq> mhr3, happroved
[09:58] <mhr3> hanks
[09:59] <Saviq> tom?
[10:02] <mhr3> nah, colin
[10:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:34] <asac> ogra_: do you know what ubuntu-download is?
[10:34] <popey> asac: background service to do downloads isnt it?
[10:34] <asac> popey: hmm. what does it download though?
[10:34] <popey> whatever the app developer wants to download
[10:34] <asac> do you know? is that about system-updates? click packages?
[10:35] <didrocks> both
[10:35] <ogra_> asac, the download tool for the system images
[10:35] <popey> i thought app developers could use it?
[10:35] <asac> ogra_: when do we run this?
[10:35] <didrocks> popey: right, it's just the 2 consumers as of today are click packages and system updates :)
[10:35] <ogra_> i think the system image upgrader uses it ... if you run such an image and upgrade
[10:35] <asac> popey: i know we have plans for a general download-service, not sure if ubuntu-download is that though
[10:35] <popey> gotcha
[10:36] <asac> ogra_: just saw it creating noise in the toplog
[10:36] <asac>   3806 phablet   20   0 30684 3848 3376 S   5.6  0.2   0:03.15 ubuntu-downloa
[10:36] <asac> unfortunately the toplog was too dumb... next revision will show us better truth
[10:37] <asac> need plars and friends to come on
[10:38] <asac> plars: doanac`: proposed a merge request that will give us much better top info
[10:38] <asac> plars: doanac`: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/ubuntu-test-cases/use-top-and-always-dumb-toplog/+merge/180828
[10:38] <asac> ogra_: i dont have ubuntu-download running at all here
[10:38] <asac> guess it gets triggered by cron?
[10:46] <w-flo> does the stock ticker app work for anyone? Trying to figure out if something is wrong with confinement on my device or if the stockticker manifest is actually missing the networking policy group and access to /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf
[10:46] <w-flo> oh and I'm still on 0814.1 or something like that..
[10:47] <asac> ogra_: hah ... even this stupid top loggin revealed the ueventd thing
[10:47] <asac> ogra_: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3625/phone-app-autopilot/
[10:47] <asac> see how everything fails ... go into the before or after systemsettle
[10:47] <asac> you will find ueventd in toplog
[10:48] <ogra_> yeah, the system needs a reboot if it is in that state
[10:48] <asac> right
[10:48] <asac> 2120 root      20   0  3744 1196 1008 S   5.6  0.1   0:00.97 ofonod 2401 phablet   20   0 30684 3932 3448 S   5.6  0.2   0:02.56 ubuntu-download
[10:48] <asac> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3625/friends-app-autopilot/
[10:49] <asac> ofonod and ubuntu-download doing business
[10:49] <asac> i assume that means we had network and an autoupdate is kicking
[10:49] <asac> ?
[10:51] <asac> psivaa_: do you feel comfortable reviewing/merging an improvement to the systemsettle? or do we need to wait for plars?
[10:53] <psivaa_> asac: let me have a look. was not really involved in the previous reviews of this though..
[10:53] <asac> psivaa: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/ubuntu-test-cases/use-top-and-always-dumb-toplog/+merge/180828
[11:04] <ogra_> 2013-08-19 13:04:12 (0,00 B/s) - Connection closed at byte 422776655. Retrying.
[11:04] <ogra_> GRRR
[11:04] <ogra_> dear jenkins, whats wrong with you ?
[11:04] <diwic> ogra_, is that the pulseaudio image?
[11:04] <ogra_> yeah
[11:05] <ogra_> on the last byte ...
[11:05] <diwic> ogra_, I'll send it with a pigeon!
[11:05] <ogra_> and using -c (continue) with wget doesnt seem to pick up on it again :(
[11:05] <diwic> ogra_, want me to upload it to p.c.c ?
[11:05] <ogra_> yeah, please
[11:10] <diwic> ogra_, my uplink speed is not the best; ETA 45 minutes or so
[11:11] <psivaa> asac: had a look, though i find no issues with that, i am not sure how this will impact the test runs. not so clear about it i am afraid. today's system settle tests are failing and from what i see. top seem to be the reason for the idle time to be less than 99.25
[11:11] <asac> psivaa: this patch is addressing exactly that
[11:11] <asac> right now the toprun is very bad
[11:11] <ogra_> diwow, any idea why that image is so big ? thats >50M more than the current image has
[11:11] <asac> and doesnt include very good details
[11:11] <ogra_> diwic, ^^^
[11:12] <diwic> ogra_, no, I haven't notices - there are a few more packages, but 50M is a lot anyway
[11:13] <ogra_> yeah
[11:13] <ogra_> ah, well, its only 30 ... seems the main image grew as welll over the weekend
[11:13] <ogra_> i was looking at 0816
[11:13] <ogra_> 0819 is 20M bigger
[11:13] <ogra_> but still. 30M compressed is a lot
[11:15] <davmor2> ogra_: that's a hell of a lot for a phone
[11:15] <ogra_> yes
[11:15] <ogra_> sadly the pulse image has no manifest
[11:15] <ogra_> so hard to tell whats extra there
[11:23] <w-flo> the main image has 30megs of new icons in /usr/share/app-install/icons :D
[11:25] <ogra_> lovely
[11:25] <ogra_> well our threshold is 512M compressed afaik
[11:25] <ogra_> we're still far from that ...
[11:26] <popey> ogra_: do we no longer enable swap?
[11:26] <popey> just noticed my phone with todays image has no swap
[11:26] <ogra_> the normal flipped image ?
[11:26] <ogra_> or the system image ?
[11:26] <popey> yeah, cdimage-touch
[11:26] <ogra_> the latter doesnt have swap
[11:26] <ogra_> the former should
[11:27] <popey> hmm, my dmesg is spammed with [ 3799.373660] binder: 2096 RLIMIT_NICE not set
[11:27] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# free|grep Swap && cat /var/log/installer/media-info
[11:27] <ogra_> Swap:       102396          0     102396
[11:27] <ogra_> Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) - armhf (20130815)
[11:27] <ogra_> we had swap on the 15th
[11:27] <popey> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# free | grep Swap && cat /var/log/installer/media-info
[11:27] <popey> Swap:            0          0          0
[11:27] <popey> Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) - armhf (20130819)
[11:28] <ogra_> the RTLIMIT message should be supressed by a syslog.d snippet
[11:28] <ogra_> /etc/rsyslog.d/45-binder.conf
[11:28] <ogra_> by this one
[11:28] <ogra_> check if you have it
[11:29] <popey> :msg, contains, "RLIMIT_NICE not set" ~
[11:29] <ogra_> yeah, so it should be supressed
[11:29] <ogra_> werid that it isnt
[11:30] <ogra_> (well, at least after rsyslogd started)
[11:31] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# grep LIMIT /var/log/syslog
[11:31] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/#
[11:31] <popey> bah, phone just rebooted after I finished autopilot testing
[11:32] <popey> see if it still does it after reboot
[11:32] <popey> still no swap after reboot
[11:32] <ogra_> oh, btw
[11:32] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# grep SWAP /etc/fstab
[11:32] <ogra_>  /SWAP.swap		none	swap	sw		0	0
[11:33] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ grep SWAP /etc/fstab
[11:33] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$
[11:33] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# ls /SWAP.swap
[11:33] <ogra_> /SWAP.swap
[11:33] <ogra_> ah,, weird
[11:33] <popey> ls: cannot access /SWAP.swap: No such file or directory
[11:33] <ogra_> are you sure you are not on a system image ?
[11:33] <popey> how can I tell?
[11:33] <ogra_> this looks really strange
[11:33] <popey> oh, maybe I am..
[11:33] <ogra_> mount should show a lot of loop and bind mounts
[11:34] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002538/
[11:34] <popey> looks like you're right, I suck
[11:34] <popey> sorry for wasting your time.
[11:34] <ogra_> yeah, system image
[11:35] <ogra_> creaz mount output :)
[11:35] <ogra_> *crazy
[11:36] <psivaa> asac: i would wait for plars to do the approval. have not done it myself in the past for smoke tests. he should be online in an hour or so.. sorry
[11:38] <jdstrand> w-flo: re networking policy group> please file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu
[11:39] <w-flo> jdstrand, will do (after testing with latest image)
[11:39] <jdstrand> thanks
[11:46] <asac> psivaa: maybe work with him on the process... usually it is only partly about code review, but mostly about how he tests to ensure it can land
[11:46]  * ogra_ glares at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch/
[11:46] <asac> psivaa: being able to do that testing could give you confidence that we can merge (or not )
[11:47] <asac> ogra_: yeah... bad nois
[11:47] <asac> e
[11:47] <ogra_> well, and maguro grew 33 new tests
[11:47] <asac>   777 phablet    9 -11  117m 5332 3652 S   5.2  0.5   0:01.41 pulseaudio
[11:47] <ogra_> grouper even 34
[11:48] <asac> ogra_: each test has now a systemsettle-start and systemsettle-after
[11:48] <psivaa> asac: i agree, i will have a chat with him about it
[11:48] <asac> showing you exactly whether the system was calm before
[11:48] <asac> and after
[11:48] <ogra_> ah, so we run 33 tests :)
[11:48] <asac> (after: see if we trigger crazy battery draining stuff)
[11:48] <asac> ogra_: if the math is ok, then yes :)
[11:49] <asac> too bad, really need that new script :)
[11:49] <asac> the toplog is just meaningless if just run with one iteration
[11:49] <asac> the new approach will be awesome :)
[11:51] <ogra_> sure sure :)
[11:52]  * ogra_ would prefer we would simply not have to test for an overloaded system
[11:52] <asac> well, that reveals issues
[11:53] <asac> the system must never be overloaded
[11:53] <asac> :)
[11:53] <ogra_> yeah, we shouldnt have issues :)
[11:53] <asac> well, partly its ok ... but its noisy
[11:53] <asac> like ubuntu-download shouldn't get kicked off during our test runs :)
[11:53] <ogra_> well, what was the test ?
[11:53] <asac> so that will give us info how to better run
[11:53] <asac> ogra_: nothing ... just boot, wait
[11:54] <asac> then it kicked off... we dont want it to run, unless in an explicit case
[11:54] <ogra_> if it is a system service and the test is that the rss reader pulls news, it is pretty valid :)
[11:54] <asac> if we dont test the rss reader, we shouldn't get influenced by it
[11:55] <asac> so we could stop it while we run the other tests :)
[11:55] <asac> anyway
[11:55] <asac> all will be good.. maguro looked fine
[11:55] <asac> mako is understood to be noisy
[11:55] <asac> and it is understood to be a real issue :)
[11:56] <asac> upstart-file-br
[11:56] <asac> ogra_: what is that doing?
[11:57] <ogra_> upstart-file-bridge hooks into inotify
[11:57] <ogra_> for the upstart file changed features
[11:57] <w-flo> jdstrand, filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1213898
[11:57] <asac> yeah. so we really have noise there... upstart-bridge, then ubuntu-download, then evolution-calendar is run while http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3625/mediaplayer-app-autopilot/
[11:59] <ogra_> i guess thats all dbus activated stuff the session init runs
[11:59] <asac> but that should settle within 3-4 minutes :)
[11:59] <asac> shouldnt it?
[12:00] <asac> the idea was that we wait exactly for such stuff to finish nicely
[12:00] <asac> before starting autopilot or benchmarks etc.
[12:00] <ogra_> asac, see /usr/share/upstart/sessions/
[12:00] <jdstrand> sergiusens: can you update the stock ticker app to add the networking policy group for bug #1213898? we should retarget that bug, but I'm not sure to what
[12:00] <asac> ogra_: evolution i dont see
[12:01] <ogra_> addressbook app starting i guess
[12:01] <ogra_> it uses evo in the backend
[12:01] <asac> right. figured same a sec ago
[12:01] <ogra_> and likely needs to populate its db on startup
[12:01] <sergiusens> jdstrand: sure, will do. (had an item to look on it today). Also, wrt to bug tracking I delegated that to dholbach, not sure if we should just use the launchpad tracker
[12:02] <ogra_> sergiusens, do you know if there is a manifest for the pulse image ? seems it is 30MB bigger than the standard one
[12:02] <jdstrand> dholbach: when it is determined, can you let me know? ^ (just for the future)
[12:02] <jdstrand> sergiusens: thanks :)
[12:02] <sergiusens> ogra_: one sec
[12:02] <ogra_> the jenkins page doesnt seem to have one
[12:03] <sergiusens> ogra_: it seems it's just not publish, I can get that for the next builds, but the last one is here: http://10.97.2.10:8080/view/Phablet/job/ubuntu-touch-image-saucy-pulseaudio/ws/livebuild/ubuntu-touch-saucy-armhf.manifest/*view*/
[12:03] <sergiusens> I'm not sure you have access
[12:04] <sergiusens> I'll get it on a paste
[12:04] <sergiusens> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002616/
[12:08] <Chocanto> Kaleo: ping
[12:08] <ogra_> sergiusens, thanks
[12:13] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002652/
[12:14] <asac> phablet-flash lost ability to install specific date?
[12:14] <asac> sergiusens: ?
[12:14] <asac> wanted to install exactly 20130817.1
[12:14] <sergiusens> asac: not date since it's useless, just specific images
[12:14] <asac> sergiusens: how?
[12:15] <asac> sudo phablet-flash cdimage-touch -p http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130817.1/
[12:15] <asac> doesnt work either
[12:15] <sergiusens> asac: ie, phablet-flash --ubuntu-path http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130812/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz --device-path http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130812/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+mako.zip
[12:16] <asac> sergiusens: base path doesnt work?
[12:16] <asac> :)
[12:16] <sergiusens> asac: what version? I tried that Friday
[12:16] <asac> let met try again
[12:16] <diwic> ogra_, finally! http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/temp3/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf-0819.zip
[12:16] <asac> i think my phone was not booted
[12:16] <asac> sergiusens: sudo phablet-flash cdimage-touch -p http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130817.1/
[12:16] <asac> doesnt download
[12:16] <asac> just flashes 16 again
[12:17] <sergiusens> asac: also, the --ubuntu-path and --device-path should work with filesystem paths
[12:17] <asac> sergiusens: yeah, but thats super long form
[12:17] <asac> so just pointing at directory or revision doesnt work?
[12:17] <annerajb> morning
[12:18] <asac> ok trying --ubuntu-path etc.
[12:18] <sergiusens> asac: no... it's I can do it, but it can break often and all the endpoints have different names for the files they produce
[12:18] <asac> that seems to work
[12:18] <asac> sergiusens: we should ship a manifest in the directory i guess ... well, lets wait for the new system images
[12:18] <asac> and ensure we do it well there
[12:18] <sergiusens> asac: it used to be the case, but it kept breaking with all the cdimage-jenkins transitions
[12:18] <asac> from what i undersatnd they dont have directories there anymore :/
[12:18] <asac> a bit scared
[12:18] <sergiusens> asac: I asked for that already when I was first implementing this
[12:19] <asac> sergiusens: yeah. i would have assumed we have a single manifest that explictitely defines which parts are to be found where
[12:19] <asac> etc.
[12:19] <asac> so we could version that format and just dont break anymore :)
[12:19] <sergiusens> asac: I was told it required big changes across cdimage
[12:19] <asac> simple as that :)
[12:19] <sergiusens> asac: a simple json file would do
[12:19] <asac> providing a manifest of what stuff we output?
[12:20] <asac> but yeah, guess it points at a very big architecture around this tool :)
[12:20] <asac> if its hard to do
[12:20] <sergiusens> asac: well the ubuntu image based upgrades support this
[12:20] <asac> maybe
[12:20] <asac> we need to synch with barry
[12:20] <asac> i dont think we have a way to stage images
[12:20] <asac> and publish after review
[12:21] <sergiusens> asac: you can do phablet-flash ubuntu-system -r -1 or phablet-flash ubuntu-system -r 20130813 (provided that they are still hosted)
[12:21] <asac> like /pending /current
[12:21] <asac> sergiusens: ubuntu-system?
[12:21] <asac> interesting
[12:21] <asac> i was using cdimage-touch
[12:21] <asac> but nevermind
[12:21] <sergiusens> asac: it's for image based upgrades
[12:21] <asac> i use --.*-path now :)
[12:21] <asac> ubuntu-system?
[12:21] <sergiusens> asac: very different cases
[12:21] <asac> thoguth we dont have /pending /current there
[12:21] <asac> yeah
[12:21] <asac> lets leave it :)
[12:21]  * asac needs to do something else and is happy for now
[12:22] <sergiusens> asac: http://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json
[12:22] <sergiusens> for future reading
[12:22] <asac> sergiusens: when will we have the "channel" discussion?
[12:22] <asac> is there one scheduled?
[12:22] <asac> "which channels and how to name those"
[12:23] <asac> i assume we want a "pending" on top of "daily"
[12:24] <sergiusens> asac: there's a meeting on #ubuntu-meeting on tuesdays at 1pm utc
[12:24] <sergiusens> we can bring it up there
[12:26] <popey> is there a way to migrate from a flipped image install to a system image install and not lose my /home/phablet/* ?
[12:26] <ogra_> i dont think so
[12:26] <ogra_> except for backing it up via ssh or so
[12:28] <popey> ok, will do that
[12:29] <popey> hmm
[12:29] <popey>  /ril_0     gsm               disconnected
[12:29] <popey> thats bad isnt it?
[12:30] <popey> oh, its just slow
[12:30] <sergiusens> popey: restrting network-manager fixes that for me
[12:30] <popey> ah, ueventd eating the cpu
[12:30] <popey> that wont help
[12:41] <dholbach> jdstrand, sergiusens, I'm not sure I understood the question correctly, but if it's about blocker/important bugs in terms of our app story, can you add a tag 'appstore'?
[12:41] <sergiusens> dholbach: no, it's the email you started 2 weeks ago... wrt to ubuntu-bug for click packages
[12:41] <dholbach> sergiusens, ahhh ok, sorry - we're going to have a vUDS session about it
[12:42] <dholbach> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1308-click-error-reporting
[12:42] <dholbach> sergiusens, jdstrand: ^
[12:44] <sergiusens> dholbach: that blueprint only addresses crashes, what about 'descriptive' bugs?
[12:45] <dholbach> sergiusens, might be worth adding that to the blueprint agenda
[12:46] <dholbach> sergiusens, added a comment
[12:55] <sergiusens> thanks
[13:02] <sergiusens> boiko: hey, where was the telephony qml plugin again?
[13:02] <boiko> sergiusens: the new one?
[13:02] <sergiusens> boiko: yeah, I'm writing up a test plan for telephony
[13:04] <boiko> sergiusens: so the qml plugin is on lp:history-service
[13:04] <sergiusens> boiko: so that produces two plugins?
[13:04] <sergiusens> qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-history-plugin and qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony-plugin
[13:05] <boiko> sergiusens: nope, the history plugin is from lp:history-service
[13:05] <boiko> sergiusens: for the history-service I am writing some unit tests already
[13:05] <sergiusens> boiko: ok, so where is qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony-plugin ?
[13:05] <sergiusens> boiko: good that you are writing tests btw :-)
[13:06] <sergiusens> I'm trying to scope out everything we need for a solid telephony stack
[13:10] <lool> sergiusens: hey!
[13:10] <sergiusens> lool: hey
[13:11] <lool> sergiusens: thinking about the move to new image format, we currently require reflashing and losing the data
[13:11] <lool> sergiusens: it was ok for testing, but requiring the whole userbase of touch images to lose their userdata is a bit much
[13:12] <sergiusens> lool: do you want me to work on not losing data?
[13:12] <lool> sergiusens: Stéphane suggested that we could just backup + restore the home dir
[13:12] <sergiusens> lool: well home dir + network settings (wifi + telephony)
[13:12] <lool> sergiusens: And I actually thought it would be pretty cool to have backup+restore functionality!
[13:12] <sergiusens> lool: that's what I currently do
[13:12] <lool> sergiusens: oh you have a way to do that already?
[13:13]  * lool pulls phablet-tools
[13:13] <sergiusens> lool: I do it in the update zips
[13:13] <ChickenCutlass> lool, we have been backing up for months now.
[13:13] <sergiusens> lool: I can add something into the tools, popey does this already... it should be really simple
[13:14] <lool> sergiusens: oh you mean on the device
[13:14] <lool> sergiusens: we actually thought of backup on the host
[13:14] <stgraber> sergiusens: for system-image, the paths under /data will only exist after the first boot, so I think you'd have to transfer the things you want from /data/ubuntu before starting the initial recovery run (which will format /data), then let the device do the initial flash + boot and restore at that point + reboot one more time
[13:14] <sergiusens> lool: yes, it's device based... host based is easy
[13:14] <sergiusens> stgraber: anything preventing the migration path to live in the update script called with ubuntu_commands?
[13:14] <stgraber> sergiusens: we'll soon have code to repartition the device (/me looks at slangasek) which will require wiping both the system and data partition at the same time, so we won't really have any space to save stuff
[13:15] <sergiusens> stgraber: ah, there we go
[13:15] <sergiusens> stgraber: lool ok, I'll add this task
[13:15] <sergiusens> there was supposed to be a phablet-tools blueprint somewhere
[13:15] <lool> sergiusens: Note that the path will change
[13:15] <sergiusens> ogra_: did you get a chance to create it?
[13:16] <lool> sergiusens: from /data/ubuntu/home/phablet to /data/user-data/phablet
[13:16] <sergiusens> lool: sure, we just need a clever way to figure it out
[13:16] <ogra_> sergiusens, a blueprint ?
[13:16] <lool> sergiusens: So you could just backup /data/ubuntu/home/phablet if it exists, or backup /data/user-data/phablet, and restore to the right location depending on image type
[13:16] <sergiusens> ogra_: I thought rick told you to set one up? vUDS
[13:16] <sergiusens> ogra_: I'll do it
[13:16]  * ogra_ wasnt aware he was supposed to create one
[13:17] <lool> sergiusens: I don't see one
[13:17] <lool> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1308
[13:17] <sergiusens> lool: yup, this ties us to a host tool (which we weren't enforcing before), but I'm ok with it
[13:17] <sergiusens> lool: I'm creating one
[13:17]  * sergiusens reads jono's instructions
[13:17] <ogra_> diwic,  ok, booted .teh pulse image, i dont have indicators beyond messages and network..
[13:18] <diwic> ogra_, all right, go into sound settings and try playing a sound. Does it work ?
[13:18] <ogra_> i dont have sound settings
[13:19] <Kaleo> Chocanto: pong
[13:19] <diwic> ogra_, do you have a terminal ?
[13:19] <ogra_> diwic, there seem to be only 6 installed apps
[13:19] <ogra_> no terminal
[13:19] <diwic> ehh
[13:19] <w-flo> ogra_, tap the "installed" header to expand :)
[13:20] <ogra_> OH !
[13:20] <ogra_> how unintuitive !
[13:20] <ogra_> diwic, no sound
[13:21] <diwic> ogra_, ok, do you have a terminal now?
[13:21] <w-flo> yeah, it confused me for at least 5 minutes until I figured that out (searching for the stock ticker app worked after the 5th attempt, so I used that route)
[13:21] <ogra_> yes
[13:21] <diwic> ogra_, sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-utils
[13:21] <diwic> ogra_, then pastebin me the output of "pacmd list"
[13:21] <lool> stgraber: Hmm do we want a session at vUDS for OS updates?
[13:22] <sergiusens> lool: +1
[13:22] <lool> stgraber: I can think of a bunch of things we could improve outside of the bugs (progress updates, size of the deltas etc.)
[13:22] <stgraber> lool: yeah, we can at least use it to give a status update
[13:23] <ogra_> diwic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002829/
[13:24] <diwic> ogra_, uhm, apparently it chose the bluetooth port
[13:24] <diwic> ogra_, try: pactl set-sink-port 0 "[Out] Speaker"
[13:24] <ogra_> without any device connected ?
[13:25] <ogra_> (or does the sound now come out of the speakers in my neighbors house ? :) )
[13:25] <Kaleo> Mirv: you around?
[13:25] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Hey, how are you ? :)
[13:25] <Kaleo> Chocanto: good :)
[13:25] <diwic> ogra_, probably it went into nothing
[13:26] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ pactl set-sink-port 0 "[Out] Speaker"
[13:26] <ogra_> Failure: No such entity
[13:26] <Chocanto> Kaleo: It was about your Arguments API
[13:26] <Kaleo> Mirv: can we include a not-yet-upstream-landed patch into our Qt 5.1 build?
[13:26] <Kaleo> Mirv: it's a patch upstream is working on
[13:26] <Kaleo> Chocanto: you are using it?
[13:26] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I'm trying to use it for docviewer, but can't get it working
[13:26] <Kaleo> ah
[13:27] <diwic> ogra_, hmm, the speaker port does not show up, that's weird
[13:27] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I'm launching the app with qmlscene like a normal qml app
[13:27] <ogra_> yup
[13:27] <Kaleo> Chocanto: on your laptop?
[13:28] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Yes
[13:28] <diwic> ogra_, maybe it's "earphone", try: pactl set-sink-port 0 "[Out] Earphone"
[13:28] <lool> stgraber, sergiusens: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1308-os-updates
[13:28] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I try to pass a filepath but get nothing in defaultArguments
[13:28] <sergiusens> lool: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/phablet-tools/+spec/foundations-1308-phablet-tools
[13:28] <diwic> ogra_, if that works, then try "paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav"
[13:29] <ogra_> diwic, i hear it very faint
[13:30] <ogra_> oh
[13:30] <Kaleo> Chocanto: can you pastebin the code?
[13:30] <ogra_> heh, well, holding the phone to my ear helps
[13:30] <diwic> ogra_, right, it's through the earpiece
[13:30] <ogra_> yeah, i kind of didnt get that :)
[13:31] <diwic> ogra_, but there should be a speaker too, right?
[13:31] <ogra_> right, sounds from the system settings work too
[13:31] <ogra_> i would assume so... the video always played loud
[13:31] <sergiusens> lool: dholbach can we register something for 'building' binary dependant clicks? I'm experimenting with something to reach some goals, but would want a wider discussion on it
[13:31] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I'm doing it :)
[13:32] <lool> stgraber: updating from ~10 days ago worked fine; displayed download size was 300 MB which went fast, but applying the update took a looong time
[13:32] <lool> stgraber: I guess that's another good reason for improving delta size
[13:32] <lool> (ie not just improving download time but also time to apply it
[13:32] <stgraber> lool: well, 300MB is a full image, so certainly slower than a delta
[13:32] <lool> sergiusens: accepted https://blueprints.launchpad.net/phablet-tools/+spec/foundations-1308-phablet-tools
[13:34] <lool> stgraber: right, the more often we can rely on deltas and the smaller they are, the faster the updates
[13:34] <lool> sergiusens: I listed a couple of things in the bp description; do you have other in progress/requested features
[13:34] <lool> ?
[13:35] <diwic> ogra_, ok, I'm checking with Arun to see if he knows anything about that
[13:35] <Chocanto> Kaleo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002880/
[13:35] <diwic> ogra_, I wonder if we dare to try a phone call
[13:35] <Chocanto> Kaleo: L27
[13:35] <ogra_> diwic, ok, let me know if you need any other logs, data etc
[13:36] <diwic> ogra_, btw, first try to do this: pactl set-card-profile 0 "Voice Call"
[13:36] <ogra_> popey, davmor2, could you guys test 20130818 ? asac wants me to set that one as current, but i want to keep my current install for diwic to test sound stuff
[13:37] <didrocks> lool: hey, FYI, I worked on the API with barry, (raw draft is in http://pad.ubuntu.com/system-update, barry for ensuring he understood the requirement, reformulated on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades/Client). We still need a back and force I guess (see my last notes on the pad) but I think we are almost there.
[13:37] <ikillcypher> any developers here?
[13:37] <lool> didrocks: cool, I wanted to ping barry on this
[13:37] <ogra_> diwic, no change
[13:38] <lool> sergiusens: arch-dependent click: would you think this is more foundations?
[13:38] <ogra_> diwic, err, no output i mean ..
[13:38] <didrocks> lool: I'm waiting for him for this feedback session :) Meanwhile, I just reworked the UI with mpt's design, but I won't push it until we have the new API
[13:38] <davmor2> ogra_: man I already installed 19 and got it how I want it, but yeah I can do that for you, /me glares at asac though :D
[13:38] <lool> sergiusens: I'm thinking there isn't a lot of work in click itself, it's more infra work; what do you think?
[13:38] <diwic> ogra_, ok, back again: pactl set-card-profile 0 "HiFi"
[13:38] <sergiusens> lool: we do have testing items in progress for image based upgrades in the qa blueprint
[13:38] <lool> didrocks: BTW use the forth
[13:38] <lool> didrocks: or may the forth be with you
[13:38] <lool> didrocks: SCNR
[13:39] <ikillcypher> ogra_, sergiusens nothing is working for my device which I ported
[13:39] <ikillcypher> any idea?
[13:39] <davmor2> ogra_: so to install 18 is that a date I need to add or just remove the --pending?
[13:39] <diwic> ogra_, now try this: pacmd set-sink-port 0 "[Out] Handsfree"
[13:39] <sergiusens> lool: wrt to click, there are two pieces, one is SDK and the other foundations/infra
[13:39] <didrocks> lool: trying hard, needing more training as a young padawan :p
[13:39] <ogra_> ikillcypher, so track down the issues and fix them, thats what a porter does :)
[13:39] <sergiusens> ikillcypher: that means you haven't finished up on the _porting_ task
[13:39] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Ok, sorry to bothered you I found the error. I treated the "at" method as an simple array and not a method
[13:39] <ikillcypher> o.O I dont get it isnt that the job of you guys in arfhf.zip?
[13:40] <Chocanto> Kaleo: It's working like a charm now
[13:40] <lool> sergiusens: Yeah, I saw the OS updates for QA thing, but I think it's quite different; it's more around the things we've discussed with QA team on how they have to adapt their systems for the new r/o images, what to test with the new images and upgrade system to call it a good image etc. (I'm sure you remember better)
[13:40] <diwic> ogra_, does that make sound come out of the main speaker?
[13:40] <ogra_> diwic, the second one doesnt work
[13:40] <lool> the other OS updates session is more about final tweaks to switch everyone to it, upcoming bug fixes and long-term improvements
[13:41] <sergiusens> lool: well one thing we need to sort out is the application developer story
[13:41] <diwic> ogra_, doesn't work as in error message or just no sound?
[13:41] <ogra_> error message
[13:41] <ogra_> well, i kind oof get into a pacmd console
[13:41] <ogra_> and there it shows an error
[13:41] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ pacmd set-sink-port 0 "[Out] Handsfree"
[13:41] <ogra_> Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information.
[13:41] <ogra_> >>> No sink found by this name or index.
[13:41] <lool> sergiusens: So I'll register a foundations/infra session then, with you and we'd invite Colin to advice but he probably wouldn't have a lot to develop, would he?
[13:42] <ikillcypher> humm?
[13:42] <lool> sergiusens: Hmm right
[13:42] <rickspencer3> mhall119, hey, I hear that there is an authenticator app that I can install on my Ubuntu Touch?
[13:42] <ikillcypher> dont get it why isnt my radio/gsm other dont work at all
[13:42] <Kaleo> Chocanto: oh!
[13:42] <Kaleo> Chocanto: ok
[13:42] <Kaleo> Chocanto: no worries
[13:42] <sergiusens> lool: just forwarded you an email that came out of a discussion last week
[13:42] <popey> ogra_: sure
[13:42] <ogra_> ikillcypher, our job is to keep the armhf.zip working on the supported nexus devices and to integrate the patches you send us for your port
[13:43] <sergiusens> lool: they sdk it seems is really tied into apt-get
[13:43] <ogra_> popey, thx
[13:43] <sergiusens> lool: and building on the device
[13:43] <popey> how do we phablet-flash old releases these days?
[13:43] <Chocanto> Kaleo: And thank you a lot for this API, thanks to it I can  finally remove the special launcher for the docviewer ! :D
[13:43] <annerajb> ogra_, http://pastebin.com/est283HN i get a adb shell on break=bottom but not on break=pre_validate
[13:43] <lool> sergiusens: Yeah; it's a quite large topic
[13:43] <diwic> ogra_, now try this: pacmd set-sink-port @DEFAULT_SINK@ "[Out] Handsfree"
[13:43] <lool> sergiusens: with cross-compilation
[13:44] <Kaleo> Chocanto: that's great!
[13:44] <lool> sergiusens: I'm not sure how reasonnable it is to tight the two together; I think we're already relying on click building infrastructure today, can't wait for cross-builds to be in the SDK to leverage them
[13:44] <ogra_> diwic, \o/
[13:44] <ikillcypher> sergiusens and orga_ what is the purpose of daily builds?
[13:44] <nerochiaro> didrocks: hi, is it possible to have the package lp:ubuntu-ui-extras land in saucy so that it gets included in the images
[13:44] <ogra_> diwic, works
[13:44] <diwic> ogra_, okay so now you have sound out of the main speaker
[13:44] <annerajb> ikillcypher, it includes changes from previous day like updated packets
[13:45] <ikillcypher> so why it is does not work on my device?
[13:45] <diwic> ogra_, I'll rename "handsfree" to "speaker" in tomorrow's image
[13:45] <ikillcypher> example failing badly
[13:45] <Chocanto> nik90: ping
[13:45] <ikillcypher> the ported version has some serious bugs :(
[13:45] <annerajb> ikillcypher, because it's not made to work for your device it's made to work on supported devices.
[13:45] <lool> sergiusens: BTW one thing I wanted to discuss with you (another thing Stéphane brought up) is /opt/click.u.c: stgraber would think /var/lib/click-package or similar would be a better choice as to avoid making /opt pathnames writable
[13:45] <ikillcypher> like radio/gsm dont work
[13:45] <ikillcypher> so any idea what do I have to do to get it working?
[13:45] <lool> sergiusens: I tend to agree, albeit we want a smooth transition (I guess apparmor might get confused there)
[13:45] <annerajb> ikillcypher, first of all go to github and start tracking every bug that people have seen.
[13:46] <ikillcypher> meaning?
[13:46] <annerajb> ikillcypher, for example if you have no gsm/radio open a bug=issue that says no radio
[13:46] <annerajb> ikillcypher, let me get you a link
[13:46] <mhall119> rickspencer3: apt-get install canonicalauth from the collection PPA
[13:46] <ogra_> annerajb, what would "break=pre_validate" be ?
[13:46] <ikillcypher> alright :(
[13:46] <annerajb> ogra_, another maybe_break pre_validate i added after bottom
[13:46] <mhall119> rickspencer3: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/collection/
[13:46] <annerajb> annerajb, it's on the paste bin
[13:46] <rickspencer3> mhall119, sweet, let me give it a try
[13:47] <diwic> ogra_, I guess it's phone calls next then
[13:47] <ogra_> diwic, oh, then i need to find an adapter for my SIm
[13:48] <annerajb> ikillcypher, this is a example of one
[13:48] <annerajb> ikillcypher, https://github.com/annerajb/balance-peaje-pr-ios/issues/6
[13:48] <diwic> ogra_, pactl set-source-port @DEFAULT_SOURCE@ "[In] Mainmic"
[13:48] <annerajb> ikillcypher, this helps you have a list of all the issues your device has.
[13:48] <ikillcypher> what is that
[13:48] <annerajb> ikillcypher, after that you need to debug every issue people in here can probably help you.
[13:49] <annerajb> ikillcypher, it's a way to organize issues or problems
[13:49] <ikillcypher> o.O well there isnt any radio/gsm seems like dead for my device
[13:49] <ogra_> annerajb, try dropping the underscore
[13:49] <didrocks> nerochiaro: sure, who is the team working on it? do we have integration tests?
[13:49] <annerajb> ogra_, ok
[13:49] <ogra_> diwic, done
[13:50] <annerajb> ikillcypher, all right then go to your github and use let's say the kernel repository
[13:50] <om26er> wow
[13:50] <diwic> ogra_, if you like to do some fake testing first,
[13:50] <w-flo> annerajb, you said that ${udev_root} is possibly undefined in scripts/init-bottom.. I'd try to user "ln -s ${rootmnt}/dev /dev" to see if it fixes anything
[13:50] <w-flo> *use
[13:50] <om26er>  what's wrong with the latest image ? saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+mako.zip   is only 8.2 mb
[13:50] <nerochiaro> didrocks: i am the only working on it at the moment. it has been created as a place where to put the share component that is going to replace the share app. at the moment the package is basically empty except for some example code, but there's a MR for the actual share component that's being reviewed
[13:51] <diwic> ogra_, we could try 'pacmd set-log-level 4', then 'pactl set-card-profile 0 "Voice Call"' (same as earlier)
[13:51] <didrocks> nerochiaro: should that be released next to the sdk? (as multiple projects will use them)
[13:51] <lool> ralsina: Hey, I see the click-scope is included in the daily images, but I can't find anything when searching for apps on my N7
[13:51] <lool> ralsina: would you happen to know what might cause this?
[13:51] <diwic> ogra_, then grep /var/log/syslog "pulseaudio.*android"
[13:52] <lool> ralsina: (I don't see a separate dashboard click tab either)
[13:52] <ikillcypher> and do what o.O
[13:52] <nerochiaro> didrocks: what do you mean with "next" ?
[13:52] <didrocks> nerochiaro: not as part of the same project, but as part of the same stack
[13:53] <om26er> ogra_, Hey! (incase you don't know that already) the latest image is broken it seems, saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+mako.zip oddly very small in size
[13:53] <om26er> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130819/
[13:54] <nerochiaro> didrocks: i'm not sure i understand what that means, sorry. the idea behind ubuntu-ui-extras is to have a place where to put some components that various apps will use, but that for the moment are better kept outside of ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[13:54] <ogra_> diwic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002925/
[13:55] <ogra_> om26er, hmm, must be the jenkins crash
[13:55] <didrocks> nerochiaro: ok, but I guess it can be part of the same stack
[13:55] <ogra_> om26er, i'll trigger a new build, jenkins is back again, so it should work this time
[13:55] <didrocks> I'll ask Mirv to deal with it tomorrow
[13:55] <oSoMoN> didrocks: yeah, it should probably be part of the same stack
[13:55] <didrocks> thanks oSoMoN, nerochiaro
[13:55] <didrocks> (so probably tomorrow)
[13:55] <om26er> cool
[13:56] <ikillcypher> well how do I fix it/
[13:56] <ikillcypher> ?
[13:56] <diwic> ogra_, ok, that looks bad. You don't have to test phone calls right now, because it won't work.
[13:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: didrocks: thanks didrocks. can any of you explain to me what you mean by stack ?
[13:56] <ogra_> diwic, ok
[13:56] <didrocks> nerochiaro: basically a stack is a set of components we all release together
[13:56] <didrocks> it's all or nothing
[13:56] <didrocks> they are normally organized by similar components and teams working on them
[13:57] <rickspencer3> hmmm, my nexus 4 is not connecting to the wireless ap here :(
[13:57] <diwic> ogra_, could you do one more 'pactl set-card-profile 0 "HiFi"' , 'pactl set-card-profile 0 "Voice Call"' and then the same grep? So I get the full story
[13:58] <ogra_> sure
[13:59] <spanner3003> Ok so the click scope is already on my nexus 7 ubuntu-touch install so how do i get it to show
[13:59] <nerochiaro> didrocks: ok, thanks for explaining
[13:59] <ogra_> diwic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002940/
[14:00] <sergiusens> lool: today's a national holiday in Argentina, not many people working
[14:00] <didrocks> nerochiaro: yw :) added to the list, Mirv/robru should help :)
[14:00] <ogra_> Setting mode to normal through set_parameters (Nexus 4 workaround)
[14:00] <ogra_> diwic, that seemsmisplaced on a galaxy nexus
[14:00] <diwic> ogra_, yeah, but hopefully doesn't hurt either
[14:00] <ogra_> k
[14:00] <ogra_> (just sticks out in the log)
[14:02] <diwic> ogra_, ok, thanks for the testing so far. I'll rename some ports in the UCM file and push a new audio-mixer-touch package in a while.
[14:02] <ogra_> ok. let me know if you need more tests
[14:03] <davmor2> ogra_, asac: just so I get the right image 18 not 18.1?
[14:03] <diwic> ogra_, will do
[14:03] <popey> ditto ☻
[14:03] <ogra_> davmor2, exactly ... 18.1 failed many tests
[14:03] <ogra_> 0818 is waht we want to release
[14:03] <popey> davmor2: phablet-flash cdimage-touch --ubuntu-path http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130818/
[14:03] <popey> thats what I am doing
[14:04] <ogra_> you know the magic switches !
[14:04] <davmor2> popey: oh nice
[14:04] <lool> sergiusens: oh thanks
[14:04] <dholbach> sergiusens, sergiusens, did you guys register another session about the binary clicks?
[14:04] <annerajb> w-flo, i think i ran that by hand and it failed. because of permissions.
[14:05] <annerajb> ikillcypher, for knowing how to fix each issue. you will need to take a look at each issue and gather debug information of them. like for example if it's about the modem gather the ofono logs to see what it complaints about.
[14:05] <w-flo> annerajb, I meant editing the script to replace the variable with a hard-coded path
[14:05] <dholbach> sorry
[14:05] <dholbach> lool, sergiusens, did you guys register another session about the binary clicks?
[14:05] <ikillcypher> ouch :(
[14:06] <lool> didrocks: I've read the pad and updated interfaces; generally ok with the new API, couple of things I'd like to mention though
[14:06] <lool> dholbach: Not yet
[14:06] <annerajb> w-flo, let me try removing the underscore on the mabye_break
[14:06] <lool> dholbach: I had started, but wanted to read Sergio's email first
[14:06] <dholbach> ok, can you subscribe me if/when it should come up? :)
[14:07] <lool> dholbach: feel free to register one; you probably have a clearer / more up-to-date picture in mind of what needs discussion  :-)
[14:07] <didrocks> lool: please go ahead (but look at my last submission on the pad at the bottom though)
[14:07] <didrocks> lool: or should we finish first with barry and request your feedback so that we have the full story
[14:07] <didrocks> hey barry!
[14:07] <barry> didrocks: hi!
[14:07] <lool> didrocks: First, wanted to mention that we will eventually have notifications to trigger the updates
[14:07] <davmor2> popey: meh I get a 200 from that command, me double checks the path
[14:08] <didrocks> lool: apparently, we won't as per design
[14:08] <dholbach> lool, hum... not quite - it's a topic which has been brought up many times in different forms, but I just don't know what the current state of things or accepted consensus is
[14:08] <lool> didrocks: I mean app notifications
[14:08] <didrocks> lool: but the current API supports that (I took that into consideration)
[14:08] <didrocks> yeah, in unity8
[14:08] <lool> didrocks: I mean serverside notifies clients that an update is available
[14:08] <lool> didrocks: push notifications
[14:08] <lool> didrocks: but that's for later and the API is ok with that
[14:08] <barry> didrocks: i'm still working my way through email. i have the pad up and am taking a look.  having some h/w problems today though ;)
[14:08] <lool> didrocks: it will supersede the cron part (or complement it)
[14:08] <popey> davmor2: wfm
[14:08] <davmor2> popey: cdimages maybe
[14:09] <didrocks> lool: yeah, that's why I wanted the cron just being "one call"
[14:09] <didrocks> so that we can easily remove it and it doesn't have any logic
[14:09] <rickspencer3> anyone know of any issues with connecting to secured wireless access points?
[14:09] <didrocks> barry: ok, I'll let you read once, and then, let's do a hangout? (like in 30 minutes)
[14:09] <rickspencer3> I seem to recall some sort of issue about this a couple of weeks back\
[14:09] <ogra_> rickspencer3, apart from the WEP password prompt not happening if it is needed ?
[14:10] <ogra_> we are waiting for a new indicator-network ... that should fix it
[14:10] <rickspencer3> ogra_, hmmm, I'm not certain if I logged onto this network before
[14:10] <rickspencer3> ogra_, is there a workaround documented somewhere?
[14:10] <lool> didrocks, barry: I would have preferred strings instead of integers for the reset_level, but that's really a detail
[14:10] <spanner3003> What ppa do i use for the latest unity-scope-click build?
[14:10] <ogra_> rickspencer3, do you have a laptop around thats connected to that network and has phablet-tools installd ?
[14:10] <rickspencer3> ogra_, yes
[14:11] <ogra_> rickspencer3, phablet-network-setup should help then
[14:11] <didrocks> lool: see my comment at the end of the pad, I think it will be 2 booleans in the end
[14:11] <rickspencer3> ok
[14:11] <ogra_> (with the device connected via USB indeed
[14:11] <rickspencer3> never actually heard of that app ;)
[14:11] <didrocks> lool: that part:
[14:11] <didrocks> Or we can have flags:
[14:11] <didrocks> * retryonfailure: False/True
[14:11] <didrocks> * resumeonpause: False/True
[14:11] <didrocks> that's the part I need to discuss with barry :)
[14:11] <rickspencer3> ogra_, oh, I was hoping my desktop could communicate with my phone via telepathic rays
[14:11] <rickspencer3> that would be true convergence
[14:11] <lool> didrocks, barry: Translations: we need a way to translate the progress / error messages; either passing the language to the update service, or translating in the apps, but I'd rather the strings be kept w/ the OS updates code
[14:11] <lool> didrocks: ack
[14:12] <didrocks> lool: I tried to sum then as level last week, but thinking about it, there is no gradation/logical evolution
[14:12] <didrocks> so quite confusing
[14:12] <ogra_> rickspencer3, well, the edgeIII  is supposed to have modems and antennas for that i heard
[14:12] <rickspencer3> thanks ogra
[14:12] <didrocks> lool: so, you mean, translations from within the service, right? it passed localized strings?
[14:12] <barry> didrocks: sure, we can do 30m-ish
[14:12] <rickspencer3> that worked perfectly and easily :)
[14:13] <ogra_> :)
[14:13] <barry> lool: i thought about strings, but they are more easily typo'd.  i don't have a strong preference either way
[14:15] <lool> barry: it's a valid point, I guess either way we need a source code human-readable definition of the levels rather than duplicating ints or strings
[14:15] <lool> barry: but didrocks proposal probably makes tihs moot anyway
[14:15] <barry> lool: okay, let me catch up :)
[14:15] <mhall119> dholbach: the XDA guys are having trouble porting Touch to the Find 5, is there something we can do to help other than test images as they make them? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2405392&page=5
[14:15] <mhall119> beuno: ping
[14:16] <dholbach> sergiusens, rsalveti, ogra_: ^ did you see mhall119's question?
[14:16] <sergiusens> mhall119: that ivolves me losing a find 5 :-P
[14:17]  * sergiusens checks
[14:17] <mhall119> sergiusens: losing?
[14:18] <sergiusens> mhall119: wasn't there a contest about this ongoing?
[14:18] <sergiusens> it was a joke btw
[14:18] <mhall119> ah, yeah, that's what I'm still trying to give away
[14:19] <ogra_> mhall119, they could come here and do a debug session with us
[14:19] <ogra_> (like many other porters :) )
[14:19] <mhall119> ogra_: I'll pass along the invitation
[14:19] <timp> weird. I have a tablet and phone here, both with image 20130816.1. On both I enabled developer mode from qtcreator on my laptop, so both have sshd installed and running..
[14:20] <timp> but on the phone when I ssh to the device I always get connection refused. On tablet it works fine
[14:20] <sergiusens> mhall119: ogra_ let's have dholbach announce a  porter clinic like last time and paste the link on the forum
[14:21] <ogra_> sergiusens, ++
[14:21] <davmor2> ogra_, popey: Meh it appears that I have a bricked device now, it just gets to the google logo and stops, fastboot devices shows nothing
[14:22] <popey> ogra_: i get no 3g with 18
[14:22] <ogra_> davmor2, adb ?
[14:22] <ogra_> popey, restart NM
[14:22] <popey> oh hang on
[14:22] <popey> it didnt flash properly!
[14:22] <popey> Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) - armhf (20130819)
[14:22] <beuno> mhall119, pong!
[14:22] <davmor2> ogra_: error: device not found
[14:22] <popey> even though I did that "magic" command
[14:23] <dholbach> mhall119, sergiusens, ogra_: any day that'd work well for you? thursday? friday?
[14:23] <ogra_> davmor2, hmm, k ... try getting back into recovery without pulling the battery
[14:23] <timp> bzoltan: ^any idea what may be causing the issue that I mentioned 4m ago?
[14:23] <timp> bzoltan: also, from qtc, even when I try to build&deploy on the tablet where sshd works, I get [16:23:08] ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 2222: Connection refused
[14:23] <ogra_> dholbach, not friday ... that tends to eat my weekend :)
[14:24] <dholbach> mhall119, sergiusens, ogra_: thursday?
[14:24] <ogra_> since people come back on sat ... and if i accidentially answer on IRC i get dragged in :)
[14:24] <davmor2> ogra_: nope it's not turning off
[14:24] <ogra_> davmor2, not even when holding power ?
[14:24] <ogra_> (thats a HW thing, it should)
[14:24] <bzoltan> timp:  dunno, there could be more than one reason... removing the ssh keys and reenabling ssh could help
[14:24] <davmor2> ogra_: nope
[14:24] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ phablet-flash cdimage-touch --ubuntu-path http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130818/
[14:24] <popey> INFO:phablet-flash:Download directory set to /home/alan/Downloads/phablet-flash/ubuntu-touch/20130816.1
[14:25] <popey> ʘ‿ಠ
[14:25] <davmor2> popey: what happens if you add an s to the end of cdimage so the path is correct?
[14:25] <sergiusens> popey: the path-to gets downloaded to a tmp location
[14:25] <timp> bzoltan: removing them from my laptop? I cleared my ~/.ssh except for id_?sa*
[14:25] <sergiusens> popey: the ones you don't override are downloaded to the tagged locations
[14:26] <popey> i dont quite understand
[14:26] <popey> how do I specify the release?
[14:26] <sergiusens> popey: you can't, you can override device and ubuntu zips
[14:26] <sergiusens> popey: and it would be an adhoc install
[14:26] <davmor2> ogra_: how about if I try to flash it with flash all from the android image and start again from scratch?
[14:27] <popey> oh, i have to manually install, okay
[14:27] <sergiusens> popey: there is no metadata on the cdimage backend that I can rely on and it breaks often
[14:27] <asac> plars: doanac`: are we using phablet-flash -b ?
[14:27] <asac> in utah?
[14:27] <sergiusens> popey: you can only do release selection on ubuntu image based updates
[14:28] <doanac`> asac: I don't think so.
[14:28] <plars> asac: no, but we're using --wipe iirc
[14:28] <ogra_> davmor2, sounds ok, the daily tests were all fine on the 0818 image so it must boot somehow :)
[14:28] <asac> plars: doanac`: we also need to use -b i found out
[14:28] <asac> plars: doanac`: todays iamges wouldn't boot because the android part is busted
[14:28] <doanac`> asac: why so?
[14:28] <plars> asac: last we talked to the phablet team, they seemed to think using --wipe was good
[14:28] <asac> the fact that we boot in utah means we didnt update the android parts
[14:29] <doanac`> doesn't -b require you to manually boot into fastboot?
[14:29] <asac> --wipe deletes your home directory
[14:29] <sergiusens> doanac`: no
[14:29] <asac> storage
[14:29] <asac> -b makes a real fresh install
[14:29] <asac> i dont know
[14:29] <plars> asac: so we had a bootloader breakage?
[14:29] <davmor2> ogra_: yeah I think is was because I followed popey's example but there was no image to flash I could be wrong though
[14:29] <asac> ask the phonedations team
[14:29] <asac> all i know is that we want a really fresh install
[14:29] <sergiusens> asac: they are really similar
[14:29] <doanac`> sergiusens: so i can just add "-b" and nothing will break?
[14:29] <barry> didrocks, lool i made some comments in the pad.  give me 15m to try to solve these h/w problems again and then we can hangout
[14:29] <sergiusens> if they --wipe it's ok
[14:29] <timp> how do I wipe all data from phone (including old demo data) when I install a new image?
[14:29] <asac> sergiusens: well, fairly is not really helpful in automation
[14:29] <didrocks> barry: looking
[14:30] <oSoMoN> balloons: hey, I submitted https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-ap-tests-new-event/+merge/180847 to fix the failing calendar app AP test on devices, do you think you could review it?
[14:30] <asac> sergiusens: it must be absolutely reproducible aka clear what we exactly run :)
[14:30] <timp> ah. phablet-flash --wipe will do that?
[14:30] <sergiusens> asac: -b just does --wipe + install newest recovery image
[14:30] <mhall119> dholbach: doesn't matter to me, I don't know anything about porting
[14:30] <sergiusens> timp: --wipe
[14:30] <ogra_> sergiusens, does --wipe format /system ?
[14:30] <mhall119> beuno: I have changes that need approval: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3/
[14:30] <plars> doanac`, asac: so if we had a broken recovery image, then using -b could have caught that perhaps, but it would also mean that all the devices are down until they can be manually fixed
[14:30] <dholbach> ok, Thursday then :)
[14:30] <sergiusens> ogra_: no, the update zip formats /system
[14:30] <oSoMoN> fginther: hey, is http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/379/console a known issue?
[14:30] <asac> sergiusens: ok.. i dont care. what i care about is that utah shows 200+ tests succeeding, while i hear that if you install the 19th image your phone will not boot
[14:31] <fginther> oSoMoN, looking
[14:31] <ogra_> sergiusens, the issue is that jenkins was dead most of the day today... our $subarch+armel.zip's are alll just a few MB big ... theoretically it shouldnt boot
[14:31] <beuno> mhall119, on it!
[14:31] <sergiusens> asac: like latest pending does not boot? I have it now...
[14:31] <asac> so: what we need is a command that gives us a phone that does exactly contain what a fresh install gives us
[14:31] <beuno> mhall119, am also working on that blog post to go public today
[14:31] <fginther> oSoMoN, no, but I can fix it
[14:31] <ogra_> sergiusens, my theory is that unzippind failed, and recovery just rebooted
[14:31] <timp> sergiusens: I tried -b in the past, it didn't delete the user data. I'm running -b --wipe now to see what that does.
[14:32] <asac> sergiusens: so two things: i was told 19 image doesnt boot :)
[14:32] <ogra_> sergiusens, so we are on the older android root and boot where we shouldnt
[14:32] <mhall119> beuno: awesome!
[14:32] <asac> sergiusens: second: i want to ensure that long term i am 100% sure about what runs on the DUT :)
[14:32] <timp> is there a wiki page that describes the best way to use ubuntu for your daily-use phone?
[14:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: hmm, so no md5 checksum check on the produced files on jenkins?
[14:32] <asac> so if something has even a few low likelyhood of diverting over time
[14:32] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130819/ <---- check the armel.zip sizes
[14:32] <asac> thats not feasible :)
[14:33] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, cdimage just copies what it finde and md5sums it then
[14:33] <oSoMoN> fginther: excellent, thanks!
[14:33] <ogra_> s/md5susme/sha256sums/
[14:33] <annerajb> how can i run brunch without internet access?
[14:34] <oSoMoN> fginther: once that’s fixed, could you please trigger a new CI run for https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-ap-tests-new-event/+merge/180847 ?
[14:34] <sergiusens> ogra_: exactly, we probably need to validate the files after the copy?
[14:34] <mhall119> nik90: ping
[14:34] <dholbach> sergiusens, did you heard if the the pollux ports were successfully tried with the new phablet-flash?
[14:34] <dholbach> s/heard/hear
[14:34] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, once i finally land the support fro tteh packaged bits thats moot
[14:34] <sergiusens> dholbach: no, I don't recall, who was working on it?
[14:34] <ogra_> and i plan to do this this week
[14:34] <sergiusens> ogra_: yup
[14:34] <sergiusens> ogra_: so let's just do that
[14:34] <dholbach> sergiusens, András Mamenyák (~mamenyaka)
[14:34] <nik90> mhall119: pong
[14:35] <ogra_> sergiusens, the flaw here is that we dont format /system on every flash
[14:35] <ogra_> either utah or phablet-flash should do that ...
[14:35] <asac> ogra_: when do you think will the next image be done?
[14:35] <ogra_> i would rather vite for utah actually
[14:35] <ogra_> *vote
[14:35] <dholbach> sergiusens, he pushed his info changes to https://code.launchpad.net/phablet-image-info - that's why I wasn't quite sure
[14:35] <mhall119> nik90: I saw that zsombi marked the 0.1 API implementation as DONE on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/sdk-system-alarm-api
[14:35] <asac> ogra_: e..g when is the image build ready?
[14:35] <fginther> oSoMoN, yes
[14:35] <mhall119> nik90: has he given you anything you can use?
[14:35] <ogra_> asac, done already
[14:36] <nik90> mhall119: I talked zsombi, and yes the alarm api has been merged to trunk
[14:36] <mhall119> \o/
[14:36] <ogra_> just popped out of cdimages rear end
[14:36] <nik90> mhall119: however this is only the API part. The platform implementation needs to be finished still
[14:36] <asac> ogra_: .1?
[14:36] <nik90> mhall119: but still this is awesome!
[14:36] <asac> ogra_: when is the next scheduled image comnig?
[14:36] <asac> 2200 our time?
[14:36] <ogra_> asac, well, its starts at 22
[14:37] <ogra_> so 22:30/22:40
[14:37] <nik90> mhall119: so as of now, I can create the ui and connect it using the API. However if the user sets an alarm, nothing would happen since the platform is not yet ready for it.
[14:37] <ogra_> but 19.1 should be fine too
[14:37] <nik90> mhall119: but that should be resolved soon enough as well
[14:37] <sergiusens> ogra_: asac we DO format system, check the updater-script http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6003075/
[14:37] <sergiusens> line 10
[14:37] <mhall119> nik90: cool, so you're unblock on that now right?
[14:37] <sergiusens> doanac`: plars ^^
[14:37] <ogra_> sergiusens, then it is weird that it booted with a 8M android zip
[14:37] <nik90> mhall119: yes :)
[14:37] <davmor2> ogra_: meh nope nothing is communicating with my phone :(
[14:38] <mhall119> nik90: do you know who's implementing the platform work for that to work?
[14:38] <w-flo> so the zip failed to extract and updater-script wasn't executed?
[14:38] <nik90> mhall119: renato is working on the platform work.
[14:38] <sergiusens> ogra_: I'm looking at build 19, the zip only has a boot.img in it, that could be it...
[14:38] <ogra_> davmor2, even if you force it into recovery ?
[14:38] <mhall119> thanks nik90
[14:38] <ogra_> sergiusens, right, so why did it boot if /system gets formatted ?
[14:38] <dholbach> sergiusens, hm, his last mail on the ubuntu-phone@ mailing list indicated that he had some problems with flashing
[14:38] <dholbach> so maybe not
[14:39] <ogra_> sergiusens, at least the container should fail to come up
[14:39] <sergiusens> ogra_: so there is not script in the zip
[14:39] <ogra_> oh
[14:39] <ogra_> indeed !
[14:39] <ogra_> heh
[14:39] <davmor2> ogra_: nope in recovery all I get is Downloading  Do not turn off target!!!,  so now I'm not turning it off
[14:39] <nik90> mhall119: this autopilot is starting to annoying the crap out of me :(. Keeping me from mergin stuff for 5 days now
[14:39] <ogra_> well, building from the package will fix that
[14:39] <ogra_> davmor2, wrong more then
[14:39] <mhall119> nik90: are tests failing?
[14:39] <ogra_> reboot and hold *both* volume keys, not only vol-dn
[14:40] <ogra_> s/more/mode/
[14:40] <nik90> mhall119: with the new timer design stuff, the timer autopilot tests are failing
[14:40] <mhall119> balloons: ^^ can we get those updated?
[14:40] <nik90> mhall119: the weird part is that it only fails when there is atleast 1 saved timer preset. Otherwise these tests pass well
[14:40] <nik90> mhall119: I have tried the entire weekend but cannot debug it
[14:40] <mhall119> nik90: is it because of the scrolling
[14:40] <mhall119> ?
[14:41] <nik90> mhall119: no because the tests like add a new timer preset dont have the scrolling. So the same add preset test fails when there is another saved preset
[14:41] <nik90> while it passes when there are no saved presets
[14:42] <davmor2> ogra_: ah yay now we are getting somewhere
[14:42] <ogra_> davmor2, well, it wont help much to debug it ... but at least you can isntall anew
[14:43] <ogra_> the debug ram console only works  if you can reboot into recovery after the failure without losing power
[14:43] <ogra_> so it will be hard to find anything about the "why"
[14:43] <davmor2> ogra_: Yay android installing phew
[14:44] <ogra_> k
[14:46] <diwic> ogra_, audio-mixer-touch 0.4 has now finished building, please update / install the new version, reboot, then pastebin "pacmd list"
[14:48] <davmor2> ogra_: right now then the manual install steps here correct?  it's on about .zip's and I obvious have .img's I don't want to screw this up any more :)
[14:48] <davmor2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[14:49] <ogra_> davmor2, the manual install is fine ... but you probably want to flash the recovery image manually first via fastboot
[14:50] <timp> sergiusens: thanks. running phablet-flash -b --wipe worked. all the contacts are gone now
[14:51] <davmor2> ogra_: right I'm back at an android base.
[14:51] <sergiusens> timp: from that syntax seems you are on a really old version of phablet-flash, are you on saucy or do you have ppa:phablet-team/tools ?
[14:51] <fginther> oSoMoN, the pyflakes issue is resolved, new results are available
[14:51] <ogra_> davmor2, so boot into bootloader ... pull the recovery .img for your platform and: sudo afstboot flash recovery /path/to/img
[14:52] <ogra_> davmor2, *fastboot
[14:52] <davmor2> ogra_: so I do this one http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130818/saucy-preinstalled-recovery-armel+maguro.img first then reboot and then do the other two correct?
[14:53] <ogra_> yeah, reboot into bootloader (fastbot) mode though
[14:53] <ogra_> *fastboot
[14:53] <davmor2> ogra_: got it thanks
[14:55] <oSoMoN> fginther: thanks, the new results are rather unexpected, but at least it doesn’t seem to be an infrastructure problem anymore
[14:55] <oSoMoN> fginther: any chance you can run this job again, I’d like to confirm the failures are not transient?
[14:55] <fginther> oSoMoN, no problem
[14:55] <fginther> oSoMoN, running
[14:55] <cwayne> mhall119, ping
[14:56] <sergiusens> jdstrand: hey, am I missing anything here? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6003148/
[14:57] <didrocks> barry: ready now or still fighting hw?
[14:57] <ogra_> diwic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6003150/
[14:58] <barry> didrocks: still fighting h/w but i can meet
[14:58] <ogra_> i need to relocate now for the meeting ... we'll have to continue later
[14:58] <annerajb> ogra_, documented some of the debug stuff in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/PortingFlippedInProgress#Initrd
[14:59] <ogra_> annerajb, exclude "init" from the break options, it wont work
[14:59] <annerajb> ok
[14:59] <ogra_> thats the one panic i didnt manage to work without an actual console
[14:59] <mhall119> cwayne: pong
[15:00] <annerajb> ogra_, so the break=init wont work (i tried it and it didnt ) but wasnt sure if it was because of my issue. or as w-flo mentioned that system paths where already mount moved and where making adb not go up
[15:00] <diwic> ogra_, thanks, could you do pactl set-card-profile 0 HiFi
[15:00] <diwic> ogra_, and then another pacmd list ?
[15:00] <ogra_> annerajb, no, it is because this would need a special console hack
[15:01] <ogra_> diwic, yeah, after the meeting ... phone os one floor below me now :)
[15:01] <annerajb> ogra_, like console=tty1?
[15:01] <diwic> ogra_, ok :-)
[15:01] <ogra_> annerajb, no, very complex in the panic function
[15:01] <annerajb> ogra_, ok
[15:02] <annerajb> so after break bottom there is nowhere to place another maybe_break to know if it worked?
[15:02] <asac> plars: https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/ubuntu-test-cases/use-top-and-always-dumb-toplog/+merge/180889 updated version for you
[15:02] <annerajb> ogra_, cant build witho the underscore since i have no internet yet ill get to that in a hour or two
[15:05] <dholbach> sergiusens, ogra_: announced for Thursday
[15:05] <ogra_> dholbach, thanks
[15:06] <ogra_> dholbach, the ones we do after this one should be topic based ones
[15:06] <dholbach> sure, wfm
[15:06] <ogra_> dholbach, like, find a day where awe and cyphermox_ are a bit more free and have a telephony clinic etc
[15:07] <dholbach> nice idea
[15:07] <ogra_> or a sound clinic with diwic
[15:07] <ogra_> etc etc
[15:07] <diwic> ogra_, if you like we can continue the sound tests tomorrow
[15:08] <diwic> ogra_, I usually end my work day after the standup
[15:09] <ogra_> diwic, well, saty for at least collecting that last stuff above else i forget about it
[15:09] <ogra_> *stay
[15:09] <ogra_> :)
[15:11] <cyphermox_> dholbach: moo?
[15:11] <dholbach> cyphermox_, hey hey :)
[15:12] <cyphermox_> telephony clinic?
[15:13] <dholbach> yeah, ogra_ brought up the idea
[15:13] <ogra_> cyphermox_, porting clinic ...
[15:13] <cyphermox_> sounds like a pretty good idea
[15:13] <cyphermox_> oh, for porting?
[15:13] <ogra_> cyphermox_, so we can help porters to get their stuff working
[15:13] <cyphermox_> alright
[15:13] <cyphermox_> that's far more going to be with awe
[15:13] <ogra_> we did a general porting clinic recently and it was a good success
[15:13] <cyphermox_> the NM stuff is totally generic
[15:13] <ogra_> so i think we should have topic ones too
[15:13] <ogra_> sound, telephony ... Mir etc etc
[15:13] <cyphermox_> indeed
[15:14] <ogra_> bluetooth :)
[15:14] <cyphermox_> hahahahahahahahahahaha
[15:14] <karni> Hi guys. I can't open .cordovaproject with Qt Creator. Should I file a bug against ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins or ubuntu-ui-toolkit?
[15:14] <ogra_> :)
[15:14] <mhall119> karni: file it against ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins
[15:15] <karni> mhall119: thanks!
[15:17] <ogra_> jodh, whats the status of the android bridge work ? will we see an upstart package with it soon ?
[15:18] <jodh> ogra_: the next upload should include it. However, the next upload also needs the dep8 tests. These are finished, but are blocked on kernel bug 1208455.
[15:18] <ogra_> awww
[15:19] <ogra_> jowell, we dont use kvm :)
[15:19] <ogra_> jodh, ^^^
[15:19] <jodh> ogra_: you can of course build both pieces yourself to test it now.
[15:19] <ogra_> nah i want it in the image :)
[15:20] <karni> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/+bug/1213969
[15:20] <jodh> ogra_: we need the dep 8 tests.
[15:20] <ogra_> lets just drop kvm support ... clouds should use Xen or lxc :)
[15:20] <jodh> ogra_: we can't use lxc as it's not full system virtualisation.
[15:20] <ogra_> pfft, details :)
[15:23] <davmor2> ogra_: it kept going round in circles so in the end I cheated I did a phablet-flash -b and the manual flash and this time it worked at last woohoo!
[15:23] <tedg> tvoss, long term are we still planning on sending SIGSTOP to apps, or are we going to just kill them?
[15:23] <ogra_> davmor2, great
[15:24] <sergiusens> davmor2: next time, go to recovery and phablet-flash cdimage-touch -d [device] -b
[15:24] <ogra_> davmor2, so is all working as you would expect it (despite the flashing oddysey)
[15:24] <davmor2> ogra_: I'm just running tests on the device
[15:26] <davmor2> sergiusens: what was the magic incantation to make 3g work again please
[15:27] <sergiusens> davmor2: restart network-manager ?
[15:27] <ogra_> get a headset connect it ... say "abracadabra" into the mic ?
[15:27] <davmor2> sergiusens: yeah initctl something
[15:27] <ogra_> just: restart network-manager
[15:27] <sergiusens> davmor2: restart symlinks to initctl and does the same
[15:27] <ogra_> as root
[15:28] <davmor2> ah right cool thanks
[15:28] <oSoMoN> fginther: there’s something wrong with the VM that runs autopilot tests for the core apps, if you look at all the screencasts at http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/384/? there’s a desktop contextual menu that interferes with the app and that makes all the tests fail, have you ever seen that before?
[15:29] <popey> Saving to: ‘/home/alan/Downloads/phablet-flash/imageupdates/20130827/ubuntu-20130819.1.full.tar.xz’
[15:29] <popey> that path looks odd, 20130827...
[15:29] <ogra_> popey, thats stgraber'S time machine :
[15:29] <ogra_> :)
[15:30] <davmor2> popey: stgraber is the new doctor
[15:30] <sergiusens> popey: I think they are testing big deltupdates
[15:30] <fginther> oSoMoN, will take a look
[15:30] <ogra_> popey, the querstion is, is that image good ? if so, we dont need to do any work until the 27th
[15:30] <stgraber> davmor2: it's the 28th published build of the month and it contains the second rootfs built on the 19th
[15:31] <oSoMoN> fginther: thanks
[15:31] <ogra_> stgraber, you should probably introduce a dot in the versioning
[15:31] <davmor2> stgraber: stick with you being the new doctor you'll get way more bonus points :D
[15:32] <ogra_> stgraber, 201308.27 would make it clearer that its isnt for the 27th of august
[15:32] <stgraber> ogra_: we had that discussion with barry, lool, ... and QA last week and we won't. The field is defined as an integer, so adding a dot would break pretty much everything. We can't make it any longer either as we currently have 1bit to spare in the hash used within the resolver (barry knows the details there)
[15:33] <ogra_> ahm thats bad
[15:33] <stgraber> ogra_: we simply shouldn't be showing this number to the user as it's just used as a reference for the upgrader and the server but is essentially meaningless outside of that
[15:33] <tvoss> tedg, both possible policies
[15:33] <ogra_> i'm sure it will be a constant source of confusion
[15:33] <barry> stgraber, ogra_ fwiw, if you look currently, that number is the only thing in the description field
[15:33] <ogra_> yeah agreed, and with luck the user wont see anything but the UI anyway in the future
[15:33] <sergiusens> stgraber: right, the dual daily builds mess up the pseudo date format
[15:34] <sergiusens> stgraber: and debugging (sometimes)
[15:34] <tedg> tvoss, Hmm, okay, it just complicates the sending a URL to a running application situation.
[15:35] <tvoss> tedg, yeah, takes some more thinking
[15:35]  * ogra_ notes that we will likely have to deal with the cdimage images for ports for a while 
[15:35] <sergiusens> ogra_: yes
[15:35] <sergiusens> ogra_: the whole infra for uibu is going to take a while for people to setup
[15:35] <ogra_> sergiusens, well, we should have tools for home use
[15:35] <tedg> tvoss, We start getting into who should manage all that, and we kinda have two actors.  Trying to keep both simple.
[15:35] <fginther> oSoMoN, it looks like the test is clicking on the wrong location (the mouse pointer is below the app when the x window appears) or the application hasn't fully rendered when the click is triggered
[15:36] <tvoss> tedg, true, can I come back to you in 15?
[15:36]  * ogra_ is actually pondering a rootstock-ng (based on live-build) for local image builds ... we should have something similar with an insecure key for ports
[15:36] <tedg> tvoss, Heh, sure.  You could have probably taken it without asking ;-)
[15:36] <ogra_> (for rolling system images from cdimage+local builds)
[15:36] <annerajb> do you guys have a ubuntu touch publicly accesible gerrit?
[15:37] <ogra_> annerajb, no, there is a request idling for that in the IS department since a while
[15:37] <annerajb> ok
[15:37] <ogra_> annerajb, rsalveti might know the status ... i think he is back from vacation tomorrow
[15:37] <ogra_> until thats there, patches to the ML are an appropriate solution i think
[15:38] <annerajb> ogra_, ML?
[15:38] <ogra_> mailing list :)
[15:38] <oSoMoN> fginther: yeah, but I’ve never seen that before, and the tests pass both locally on my desktop and on a galaxy nexus here, so I’m suspecting something’s wrong with the VM setup, somehow
[15:38] <annerajb> ok
[15:39] <asac> ogra_: when is 19.1 coming?
[15:39] <ogra_> asac, coming ? its there since a while
[15:40] <karni> Hey guys. If UbuntuUI (Ubuntu cordova) has button, why doesn't it have a text input field?
[15:40] <karni> I'm trying to move a simple UI to utilize UbuntuUI, but I find it a bit complex with no documentation. I'm looking at ubuntu-html5-theme/0.1/ambiance/core.js
[15:41] <karni> should I use regular DOM with JS to clear a text input field?
[15:41] <karni> If it lacks from ubuntu-thml5-theme, I assume text input field has not been styled in ambience theme yet?
[15:42] <davmor2> ogra_, asac: 18 on maguro seems fine but you need the restart network-manager to have 3g
[15:43] <asac> davmor2: is that a regression?
[15:43] <asac> ogra_: not on dashboard yet... kk
[15:43] <davmor2> asac: it's been happening to me for a while
[15:44] <asac> davmor2: maguro and mako?
[15:44] <asac> or mako?
[15:44] <davmor2> asac: maguro, popey has the mako
[15:44] <ChickenCutlass> asac, known issue.  The fix will be landing shortly
[15:44] <spanner3003> How do i help test click packages on ubuntu-touch
[15:45] <asac> davmor2: kk
[15:45] <asac> ogra_: did popey give thumbs up too?
[15:45] <asac> then push it
[15:45] <davmor2> spanner3003: I don't think there are any yet but try pinging dholbach mhall119
[15:46] <dholbach> spanner3003, are you an app developer who wants to test their software on ubuntu touch?
[15:47] <ogra_> asac, not yet
[15:47] <dholbach> spanner3003, or do you want to play around with available apps? in which case you could just try out the apps on the image, because the app store is not online yet
[15:48] <popey> asac: yeah, thumbs up from me too
[15:48] <ogra_> great
[15:48]  * ogra_ publishes
[15:49] <ogra_> donw
[15:49] <ogra_> *done too
[15:49] <popey> nice one
[15:49] <fginther> oSoMoN, I can take a closer look later today
[15:50] <oSoMoN> fginther: sure, there’s no urgency, thanks!
[15:51] <spanner3003> Well im on the latest image and sudo apt-get upgrade and the application scope is bare? With new ui and no system-settings app :(
[15:54] <ogra_> spanner3003, tap on the "installed apps" its an expander
[15:54] <rickspencer3> ralsina, is there a QML api defined for the download service?
[15:54]  * ogra_ fell into the same trap 
[15:57] <spanner3003> No all i have in applications is more suggestions and app that don't do anytbing
[15:59] <spanner3003> Home scope has some app but no system settings
[15:59] <ogra_> the "Installed" header doesnt have a small triangle next to it ?
[15:59] <spanner3003> No installed
[16:00] <ogra_> ??
[16:01] <mhall119> sounds like a scope didn't load
[16:01] <spanner3003> I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:01] <mhall119> did you reboot after?
[16:01] <ogra_> mhall119, well, the applications scopr comes collapsed by default now
[16:02] <ogra_> *scp[e
[16:02] <ogra_> bah
[16:02] <mhall119> ogra_: yeah, but if there's no "Installed Apps" category at all
[16:02] <spanner3003> Yes i did reboot
[16:02] <ogra_> nhaines, funny, i have it here
[16:03] <ogra_> mhall119, ^^
[16:04] <spanner3003> If i pull down from top there is  battery setting on the battery put down
[16:05] <mhall119> hmmm, Saviq what package contains the application scope?
[16:05] <mhr3> unity-lens-applications
[16:06] <mhr3> surprisingly :)
[16:06] <mhall119> ah, I was looking for unity-scope-*
[16:06] <mhall119> spanner3003: do you have unity-lens-applications installed?
[16:06] <mhall119> you must, if there's even an applications page on the dash
[16:06] <mhall119> I wonder if the installed apps scope process died
[16:07] <mhr3> it would restart if it did
[16:07] <davmor2> spanner3003: 1)What device is this on? 2)did you use phablet-flash cdimage-touch --pending? 3)what do you actually see once the phone has booted?
[16:08] <spanner3003> Nexus 7
[16:08] <ogra_> plars, any idea whats up with 19.1 and utah ? the image is out since hours, it should be picked up at some point
[16:09] <ogra_> asac,^^^
[16:09] <spanner3003> No use the .zip's from cdimage
[16:10] <plars> ogra_: jenkins is still down
[16:11] <plars> ogra_: so, the jobs are running, but you won't see any results until our external jenkins instance is happy. IS is working on it, and retoaded should send an update shortly
[16:12] <davmor2> spanner3003: for the Nexus 7 you are probably safer using phablet-flash if you are on an ubuntu system just as a heads up.  Do you know the location you got the zip file from?
[16:12] <retoaded> plars, I still haven't gotten around to sending out the "it's broke" message. Doing that now.
[16:12] <ogra_> diwic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6003386/ is the last pacmd list output ...
[16:12] <ogra_> plars, ah, i didnt get that it is still down
[16:12] <ogra_> the image builder jenkins is up again :)
[16:14] <spanner3003> I just did sudo apt-get install unity-lens-*      see if that helps
[16:16] <spanner3003> Nope didn't help
[16:18] <asac> plars: ogra_: thx for update
[16:23] <spanner3003> This is nothing in music or video
[16:23] <swordfish> popey, Hello! After my summer break I made some improvements to the minesweeper, which is now looking nicer.... Can you push the package to the ppa please (the packaging should work now)...
[16:30] <popey> hey swordfish
[16:30] <popey> swordfish: I'll take a look, thanks!
[16:31] <swordfish> you're welcome let me know if there is any problem...
[16:31] <popey> ok
[16:36] <popey> swordfish: you need a valid email address in the debian files... run "debuild -uc -us" in the swordfish folder and it will spit out some errors/warnings at the end
[16:36] <popey> swordfish: it currently says swordfish@unknown
[16:36] <swordfish> popey, ops... ok wait a second...
[16:37] <rickspencer3> mhall119, has anyone confirmed that the canonical auth apps works?
[16:37] <popey> rickspencer3: i used it
[16:37] <popey> past tense
[16:37] <rickspencer3> popey, seems to be frozen for me
[16:37]  * popey plays with it
[16:38] <rickspencer3> uhoh
[16:42] <chrisd_> whats the web address to see the latest build status? Do you guys flash every day?
[16:42] <popey> chrisd_: last link in the /topic
[16:42] <rickspencer3> popey, when I tell it to generate the one time password, nothing happens
[16:42]  * rickspencer3 shakes fist
[16:42] <popey> rickspencer3: just had to reinstall..
[16:43] <chrisd_> thanks popey
[16:43] <swordfish> popey, done... Let's try again :)
[16:43] <popey> rickspencer3: hmm, its broken here too
[16:43] <rickspencer3> rats
[16:44] <popey> swordfish: great, will take a look thanks
[16:44] <popey> rickspencer3: odd, used to work ☹
[16:45] <popey> oh hang on
[16:45] <rickspencer3> hmmm, my wifi was off?
[16:46]  * rickspencer3 tries rebooting
[16:46] <popey> login.ubuntu.com is painfully slow
[16:46] <popey> which isnt helping
[16:48] <rickspencer3> nah, no deal
[16:48] <rickspencer3> popey, I need to step away for a bit
[16:49] <rickspencer3> let me know if you get it working, though
[16:49] <popey> rickspencer3: works here
[16:49] <rickspencer3> popey, oh?
[16:49] <rickspencer3> on a nexus 4?
[16:49] <popey> yeah, just typed in the code from u1 and then pressed the button and got a one time password, punched that into u1, done
[16:49] <popey> yes
[16:49] <rickspencer3> dang
[16:49] <popey> you're typing in teh code from login.ubuntu.com right?
[16:49] <popey> the long one with spaces
[16:49] <popey> then press the button
[16:50] <rickspencer3> popey, hmm, maybe I used the wrong code
[16:50] <rickspencer3> popey, dang it, I picked the wrong option :?
[16:51] <popey> ☻
[16:51] <popey> lets pretend this never happened. Nobody noticed. Shhhhh
[16:53] <rickspencer3> thanks popey
[16:53] <mhall119> rickspencer3: working now?
[16:53] <rickspencer3> the description of the password tipped me off
[16:53] <mhall119> trying in the AES key is a pain
[16:53] <rickspencer3> that I was in the wrong place
[16:53] <mhall119> typin
[16:53] <mhall119> g
[16:55] <rickspencer3> \o/ that's it for my android phone
[16:55] <rickspencer3> out of my life forever ;)
[16:56] <popey> hah
[17:16] <AndrewHaigh> hi, does anyone know how to adjust the Ubuntu SDK Dialog width? Seems to be fixed and quite narrow for me. Thanks! http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components-popups0-dialog.html
[17:20] <pmcgowan> timp ^^
[17:25] <annerajb> ogra_, i checked and even with break=prevalidate and it dosnt reach it
[17:25] <annerajb> i am confident is stuck on /scripts/init-bottom
[17:25] <ogra_> so it hangs in the scripts then
[17:25] <ogra_> so have a look whats in there
[17:26] <annerajb> quick question do i need a udev.conf file for my phone?
[17:26] <annerajb> because i cannot find a /run/udev.conf anywhere
[17:26] <ogra_> you shouldnt
[17:27] <ogra_> all udev needs should be in the initrd
[17:27] <ogra_> does your kernel have devtmpfs enabled ?
[17:27] <ogra_> (and the automatic mounting too)
[17:29]  * ogra_ would change #!/bin/sh -e to #!/bin/sh -ex in scripts/init-bottom/udev and ttry to somehow get the log from /run saved somewheer you can read it later 
[17:29] <karni> Hey guys, can someone tell me why a button click event doesn't work? I made a simple Ubuntu Cordova project that should just console.log a message. lp:~karni/+junk/ubuntu-html-button-test
[17:29] <ogra_> (or have the script echo into kmesg ...)
[17:30] <annerajb> ogra_, i have devtmpfs enabled what is automatic mounting? a kernel option?
[17:31] <ogra_> yeah
[17:31] <pmcgowan> alex_abreu, can you help karni?
[17:31] <ogra_> in menuconfig it should be right below devtmpfs ...
[17:31] <ogra_> i forgot how it is called
[17:31] <karni> pmcgowan: thank you
[17:31] <annerajb> i have devtmpfs=y  devpts_multiple_instances=y
[17:31] <alex_abreu> pmcgowan, having a look
[17:31] <annerajb> let me run menuconfig
[17:31] <alex_abreu> karni, ^
[17:31] <karni> alex_abreu: thanks
[17:32] <ogra_> annerajb, iirc something with devtmpfs_mount
[17:32] <karni> alex_abreu: Was working on a simple ToDo app, and stripped it all, as I couldn't get the button to work. Note, I'm not fluent in web technologies, so it might be PEBKAC.
[17:32] <ogra_> though who knows, it might not be a separate option anymore ... i havent playedd with devtmpfs in a while
[17:33] <annerajb> ok let me look into the -ex in /scripts/init-bottom/udev
[17:33] <annerajb> and check the kernel options
[17:33] <alex_abreu> karni, do you get the ondeviceready event?
[17:33] <alex_abreu> at least
[17:34] <alex_abreu> karni, you could test it outside of the cordova environment, w/ just a window.onload cb
[17:34] <ogra_> annerajb, its not like that init-bootom script has many lines :) ... so worst case try commenting them one by one until it moves forward
[17:34] <ogra_> that should at least get you to the offending command
[17:35] <annerajb> ogra_, i did yesterday and one of the mounts was failling because of permissions but i wasnt sure if it was because i wasnt root and init ran on root
[17:36] <ogra_> well, i would put my bets on the move mount ... for whatever reason
[17:36] <karni> alex_abreu: sorry, got a phone call. on it
[17:36] <ogra_> nothing of the others should be fatal or cause a han
[17:36] <ogra_> g
[17:37] <annerajb> i tried running /scripts/init-bottom/udev but that caused many issues including page faults on busybox
[17:37] <annerajb> so ima try them one by one again
[17:37] <mhall119> beuno: is there something I need to do on my app submission?  Still said "further changes awaiting review"
[17:39] <annerajb> hmm ogra_ CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT is disabled
[17:39] <annerajb> i should enable that correct?
[17:39] <annerajb> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT: Automount devtmpfs at /dev
[17:39] <ogra_> annerajb, yeah, try if that improves anything
[17:39] <karni> alex_abreu: findings: I added this at the end of my app.js: window.onload = new function() { console.log('foo'); }
[17:39] <ogra_> it will definitely make your boot faster
[17:39] <ogra_> (or fail faster at least :P )
[17:39] <karni> alex_abreu: it did appear. however, onDeviceReady is silent
[17:40] <karni> alex_abreu: pretty high level problem then, not a button thing probably.
[17:40] <alex_abreu> karni, you don't need the new, just do window.onload = onDeviceReady; you could add a console log on the device ready or update the html accordingly
[17:41] <karni> alex_abreu: oh that way. lemme check.
[17:41] <alex_abreu> karni, btw sorry missed your msg in #unity-webapps ... ping me directly there :)
[17:41] <karni> alex_abreu: np! thanks :)
[17:43] <karni> alex_abreu: unity-webapps? you sure that's the channel name?
[17:43] <karni> alex_abreu: and yes, window.window.onload = new function() { console.log('foo');
[17:44] <mhall119> #ubuntu-webapps
[17:44] <karni> sorry
[17:44] <alex_abreu> karni, argh ... ubuntu-webapps
[17:44] <karni> alex_abreu: yes, window.onload = onDeviceReady; did help!
[17:44] <karni> mhall119: alex_abreu: :)
[17:44]  * karni gets a little lost in dev channels
[17:44] <alex_abreu> yah
[17:46] <beuno> mhall119, matias is working on a bug you hit    :)
[17:47] <mhall119> beuno: the one where I see the form to approve my own changes?
[17:47] <mhall119> beuno: is there an actual bug for that?  I promised dholbach I would tag them with 'appstore'
[17:47] <beuno> mhall119, that I can't approve them
[17:47] <beuno> feel fre to file a bug for seeing your own, yes
[17:48] <iancharest> hey guys, i don't know if i am in the right place to ask this question, but the link to the tf700t rootfs is broken on the wiki ubuntu
[17:48] <mhall119> beuno: I'm not sure if it's a bug that I'm seeing it, since I'm a reviewer
[17:48] <iancharest> any ides where i could find a version?
[17:48] <mhall119> so maybe it's just the same bug that neither of us can approve it
[17:49] <beuno> mhall119, ah, that's probably why
[18:04] <w-flo> iancharest, contact the port maintainer
[18:05] <w-flo> iancharest, if you're lucky, this one might work: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[18:07] <diwic> ogra_, thanks. Looks like we have jack detection too :-)
[18:13] <iancharest> thanks wflo, was about to try that one
[18:22] <popey> mhall119: cordova-ubuntu-2.8 is not installable on saucy, so http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/html5/creating-cordova-ubuntu-qr-code-scanner-html5-app/ which refers to http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/ fails
[18:24] <mhall119> :( alex_abreu ^^
[18:26] <popey> mhall119: alex_abreu it's in the ubuntu sdk ppa, but our instructions for saucy do not mandate the installation of packages from that ppa
[18:26] <mhall119> popey: I just installed it
[18:27] <alex_abreu> popey, yeah it is installabled from the sdk ppa
[18:27] <alex_abreu> mmh weird
[18:27] <alex_abreu> it should be listed as part of the sdk-ppa in the tutorial
[18:28] <alex_abreu> popey, in the requirements "Ubuntu SDK – Install the Ubuntu SDK › – the Ubuntu Cordova runtime package is “cordova-ubuntu-2.8″"
[18:28] <alex_abreu> unless I am missing something
[18:28] <popey> yes, which comes from a ppa
[18:28] <popey> which is not enabled by default, and the instructions don't tell you to enable it
[18:29] <mhall119> popey: aren't we still having people use the PPA to install the SDK itself?
[18:29] <popey> not according to that page
[18:29] <popey> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[18:29] <popey> see "Alternatively, for those using a development release:
[18:29] <popey> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[18:29] <popey> "
[18:29] <popey> no PPA added
[18:29] <beuno> well
[18:29] <beuno> let me see if the bug is fixed in saucy
[18:29] <mhall119> ah, I see
[18:30] <popey> I'm doing this from the perspective of someone who has arrived on the cordova page and is following the instructions
[18:30] <mhall119> alex_abreu: can we get the cordova package in the archives?
[18:30] <beuno> it isn't
[18:30] <beuno> mhall119, there's still a bug in the saucy version that creates a broken .desktop file
[18:30] <mhall119> beuno: the saucy version of the SDK?
[18:30] <beuno> bzoltan1, any idea when that'll get pushed through?
[18:30] <beuno> it's crazy late at this point
[18:30] <popey> installing cordova-ubuntu-2.8 also pulled in some other packages.. so maybe they need to be moved too
[18:30] <beuno> mhall119, yes
[18:30] <mhall119> beuno: I thought my 0.1.1 package had a fixed .desktop
[18:31] <beuno> mhall119, it did
[18:32] <beuno> if you create an app from scratch
[18:32] <beuno> the SDK will create a .desktop file with absolute paths
[18:32] <beuno> which breaks on the device
[18:33] <alex_abreu> mhall119, popey  there was work towards adding it to the archive before I left for vacations (just came back today) 2 weeks ago, ... there were a few issues to be fixed, I'll check what has happened
[18:33] <mhall119> and building the .click package doesn't update the .desktop file?
[18:33] <mhall119> thanks alex_abreu
[18:34] <beuno> mhall119, good question, actually. I would expect it didn't?
[18:34] <mhall119> popey: I can update the page if necessary
[18:35] <annerajb> ogra_, where is the udev_root enviroment variable set?
[18:35] <mhall119> beuno: so I'm confused, did my 0.1.1 click package have a correct .desktop file or not?
[18:35] <derpy-net> I'm considering porting Ubuntu Touch to my phone, but I've never done anything like this. My phone (SGH-T699) has an unofficial CM build that is in active development if that makes any difference. I've looked over this the porting guide documentation, but I'm wondering if there is anything else I should know
[18:36] <annerajb> ogra_, in the break=bottom that variable is empty and that's the last line of the udev script
[18:36] <beuno> mhall119, it did. I'm not sure what's broken now then. I'll have to do this end-to-end to audit
[18:36] <annerajb> derpy-net, there is another porting guide documentation for the new format
[18:36] <mhall119> beuno: and my 0.1.2 click package has a broken (and different) .desktop file?
[18:36] <annerajb> derpy-net, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/PortingFlippedInProgress
[18:37] <beuno> mhall119, 0.1.2, IIRC, looked fine. 0.1.1 was the problem
[18:37] <derpy-net> Okay, I will look into that, thank you
[18:38] <annerajb> derpy-net, np have fun!
[18:38] <derpy-net> Is it necessary to use Ubuntu for the distro I have to build it on? If so, is running it in a vm a viable solution?
[18:39] <annerajb> derpy-net, not necesary i run it on virtual box and flash files using adb on windows
[18:39] <annerajb> derpy-net, thought it makes it easier since you have one single enviroment
[18:39] <annerajb> derpy-net, derp yeah you have to use ubuntu to build it yes a vm works
[18:40] <popey> mhall119: well, I'd like either the page to be "fixed" or the tools we're promoting to be actually installable - or inded, both ☻
[18:40] <derpy-net> Thanks so much, hopefully I can get this working!
[18:40] <popey> thanks alex-abreu
[18:40] <popey> also, welcome back alex-abreu :D
[18:41] <alex-abreu> popey, :) np ... thx!
[18:41] <mhall119> popey: well if they were installable from the archive, the page wouldn't be "broken"
[18:41] <popey> indeed
[18:56] <annerajb> ogra_, that udev_root variable is empty i guessed it meant /root/dev and used that and ran all commands without any error up to the exec run-init
[19:38] <rickspencer3> tvoss, fyi ... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rick-rickspencer3/+junk/app-lifecycle/view/head:/LocationTab.qml
[19:39] <tvoss> rickspencer3, cool, thx
[19:39] <awe> mzanetti, just updated the PIN/retries bug.  When you get a chance, can you check out my comment, and add short reply?
[19:39] <awe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1206941/
[19:39] <mzanetti> awe: sure
[19:39] <rickspencer3> tvoss, not much to it, but if you think of any good features to add, let me know
[19:39] <tvoss> rickspencer3, yup, will take a look at it soon
[19:40] <rickspencer3> tvoss, no urgency, was just fyi
[19:40] <tvoss> rickspencer3, yup
[19:45] <pmcgowan> davmor2, did you file a bug about U1 music app being removed?
[19:47] <Randroid> how far away is final release for ubuntu touch for nexus 4?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Randroid, same as the final release in general I would think.
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> run on them now
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> runs*
[19:50] <Randroid> and when is that?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> Not sure, if that info mis available you can find it as easy as I could.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> is*
[19:51] <mzanetti> awe: done
[19:52] <Randroid> No need to be a asshole mr wilee
[19:52] <awe> mzanetti, thanks
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> I'm not it is a matter of a little research, we are not here to hold your hand.
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !attitude
[19:54] <Randroid> I did not find any date, so i ask the irc channel...
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Mark Shuttleworth announced, 31 October 2011, that by Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu will support smartphones, tablets, TVs and smart screens.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch
[19:58] <Randroid> 2011 LOL
[19:59] <beuno> so, lets all calm down
[19:59] <beuno> Randroid, 13.10 is the expected date for a proper release
[19:59] <beuno> for ubuntu touch
[19:59] <beuno> until then, it's in development
[20:00] <rickspencer3> Saviq, I want to start sketching out some sample code for the URI handler service
[20:00] <beuno> it'll continue to be in heavy development after that, but it should be in good shape by then
[20:00] <rickspencer3> Saviq, are you working on that? do you have any docs I can look at?
[20:00] <Randroid> Thanks beuno
[20:02] <mhall119> rickspencer3: code for the service itself, or code for interacting with it?
[20:02] <Saviq> rickspencer3, hey, yes we're working on that, but for QML all you need is http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qml-qt.html#openUrlExternally-method
[20:02] <Saviq> rickspencer3, that's backed by http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtgui/qdesktopservices.html#openUrl if you want it Qt-side
[20:02] <rickspencer3> mhall119, qml code
[20:02] <rickspencer3> so, I think Saviq gave me exactly what I was looking for ;)
[20:03] <Saviq> rickspencer3, bug #1186556 btw
[20:03] <rickspencer3> Saviq, looks liek a lot of fancy stuff in that API, but I think Qt.openUrlExternally is the heart of it, no?
[20:03] <Saviq> rickspencer3, Qt itself is a hold-them-all bucket, really
[20:04] <Saviq> rickspencer3, and most of it is Qt-internal (no need for us to do anything)
[20:04] <mhall119> ah, yeah, that's what I was going to lookup for you
[20:04] <rickspencer3> Saviq, I can pass in a phone number, right?
[20:04] <Saviq> rickspencer3, we plan to support call://123456 for example
[20:04] <rickspencer3> groovy
[20:04] <rickspencer3> thanks Saviq
[20:09] <awe> mzanetti, update back at you...
[20:09] <awe> not sure the design is possible
[20:09] <pmcgowan> Saviq, got time for a quick question
[20:09] <awe> there's really no way to get PIN retry counts without first calling Enter or ChangePin
[20:10] <rtg> ogra_, what is the abootimg rune for manta now that the image is flipped ?
[20:10] <Saviq> pmcgowan, hit me
[20:10] <pmcgowan> Saviq, what should be working in the latest music and video lenses
[20:10] <Saviq> awe, does that mean others cache this?
[20:10] <Saviq> pmcgowan, nothing changed for them
[20:10] <Saviq> pmcgowan, so whatever was there before should still be working, but nothing new yet
[20:10] <pmcgowan> Saviq, oh, did we take out sample data then?
[20:10] <awe> Saviq, it means no PIN retry counts are available via any kind of RIL query
[20:11] <Saviq> pmcgowan, no, just from the home scope
[20:11] <Saviq> pmcgowan, do you not see the usual mock music and video scopes?
[20:11] <pmcgowan> Saviq, they are empty, assumed a code change
[20:11] <awe> Saviq, the current retry count is only ever returned by an Enter or ChangePin operation
[20:11] <mterry> ssweeny, heyo
[20:11] <Saviq> pmcgowan, flashing now
[20:12] <pmcgowan> dang ueventd spin
[20:12] <Saviq> awe, yeah, that's what I mean - if we want to display it e.g. on boot, we'd need to store it somewhere
[20:12] <Saviq> which might be incorrect anyway :/
[20:13] <Saviq> awe, that's interesting, btw, that effectively means you might not know it's your last try...
[20:13] <awe> Saviq, yea...but you'd never be sure you got it right, till you'd called one of the above methods
[20:13] <Saviq> awe, if the other two were made over a reboot
[20:13] <awe> ack
[20:13] <Saviq> s/over/before/
[20:14] <awe> the first try could be your last if you pulled from another phone
[20:17] <mzanetti> awe: need to check with designers and Saviq
[20:18] <awe> mzanetti, ok
[20:18] <mhall119> Saviq: I installed --pending yesterday and I can confirm there is no mock music or video results in the das
[20:18] <mhall119> dash
[20:19] <mhall119> also we lost the ability to adjust screen brightness with the new battery indicator :(
[20:20] <pmcgowan> mhall119, we are working on the latter issue
[20:20] <mhall119> ok
[20:21] <Saviq> mhall119, pmcgowan indeed, a change in libunity caused the mock scopes to fail, /me investigates
[20:21] <pmcgowan> Saviq, thanks
[20:35] <Saviq> pmcgowan, mhall119 bug #1214125
[20:35] <pmcgowan> Saviq, thank you sir
[20:39] <mhall119> unity-lens-scope?
[20:48] <hayer> okey, so the Lumia 920 bootloader isn't "unbreakable"
[20:49] <hayer> after working from 8 o'clock this mornin' till now.. I am like 0.01% closer D:
[20:49] <Nick> Nah
[20:49] <Nick> You might be 0.015
[20:50] <hayer> Just 6666.666 days left of work then.
[20:51] <hayer> And since that is a "best-case" and this is software.. I should double the time estimate.. 13333.333 days then :DS
[20:57] <mhr3> grr, can't we just throw away python2?
[21:12] <szymon> Hi! How can I invoke soft keyboard on Ubuntu Touch ?  when I click on TextField is shows me  blinking cursor but no keyboard.
[21:12] <houseofbean> Am I doing something wrong, or is Update phone under system settings not fully functional yet?
[21:18] <houseofbean> szymon:  I've had that happen a couple of times.  I've just gone back and tried it again, or I've turned the screen off and back on.  I think one time I restarted and everything was fine
[21:22] <szymon> houseofbean, turning screen on and off didn't help...
[21:23] <szymon> houseofbean, I think update under setting is not fully implemented yet.
[21:25] <w-flo> hayer, are you trying to get ubuntu touch working on the lumia 920? :O If so, please crack the surface RT bootloader while you're at it, thanks ;D
[21:26] <houseofbean> szymon: Oh.. A TextField on a website or one of the apps?   Not to sound like the guys on IT Crowd, but have you tried turning it off and on again?  he he.  My only regular keyboard issue is when I'm in portrait mode and the keyboard goes into landscape.
[21:31] <szymon> Ok, I'll ask question once again... I'm developing app for UT and when I place TextField in my app and I run this app on device via Qt Creator ( ctrl + f12 ) when TextField get clicked no keyboard is shown. I even went through few core apps and it looks like there is no special code to invoke soft keyboard but it works on core apps where on my app it's not.  Any idea ?
[21:32] <annerajb> szymon, have you tried asking the ubuntu touch apps irc channel?
[21:34] <szymon> annerajb, no, I thought this is a right place for this question. thanks for hint!
[21:35] <annerajb> szymon, this is for the ubuntu touch os there is another irc for apps
[21:36] <szymon> annerajb, got it #ubuntu-app-devel   thanks!
[21:36] <annerajb> np
[21:42] <om26er> mfisch, hello
[21:42] <om26er> mfisch, can i use powerd to change screen brightness (to dim) ?
[21:42] <mfisch> om26er: I dont think you can force dim
[21:42] <mfisch> if thats what you mean
[21:44] <om26er> mfisch, right, it seems with the latest image does not include a way to change screen brightness, since we started using a new indicator which does not support brightness change right now,
[21:44] <om26er> that hurts my eyes :/
[21:50] <sforshee> om26er: yeah there's nothing there for adjusting brightness right now
[21:50] <sforshee> you can cat values to /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness though
[22:06] <mhall119> om26er: known issues that's being worked on
[22:06] <om26er> sforshee, yes, thanks. figured that. its not reliable as the value resets on reboot
[22:07] <om26er> mhall119, good to know, thanks
[22:07] <mhall119> brightness has always reset at reboot
[23:01] <cwayne> mhall119, sorry, i'd forgotten about my ping earlier!  is there any docs for adding a data source to the welcome screen?
[23:07] <chrisd_> so whenever you click on a hyperlink in the mail app. there is no way to get back to the inbox?
[23:08] <chrisd_> you have to kill the app and restart it to get back to your inbox. shouldnt hyperlinks open in the brows
[23:09] <greyback> chrisd_: you cannot right-edge swipe back to the mail app?
[23:11] <chrisd_> grey back, no right edge swipe does nothing
[23:13] <chrisd_> well actually, if I go to the app dashboard I can see mail app running and right edge swipe brings me to mail app, but I cnat get back to inbox
[23:13] <chrisd_> ill post a link
[23:24] <chrisd_> http://www.phabletsite.com/t/cant-get-back-to-inbox/19
[23:34] <annerajb> w-flo, i hardcoded the udev_root and that apparently fixed it thought i am stuck somewhere else down the initrd/init script now
[23:34] <w-flo> annerajb, wow! finally, one step closer to a working port :)
[23:36] <w-flo> So I wonder if it fails on my device, too.. and if there are any negative effects..
[23:36] <annerajb> w-flo,  i think i cannot debug the initrd using break anymore since the filesystem /dev and /sys has been moved around. But I think that my command line arguments are screwing up
[23:36] <annerajb> w-flo, does your device cmdline look similar to this? * kenvandine has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
[23:36] <w-flo> maybe you could symlink /sys? just like /dev is symlinked
[23:36] <annerajb> hmm
[23:37] <annerajb> let me get that copy paste gime a second
[23:37] <annerajb> console=ttyFIQ0 no_console_suspend=1 datapart=/dev/mtdblock3 break=premove debug
[23:37] <annerajb>  console=tty1 androidboot.serialno=123
[23:37] <w-flo> annerajb, this is my cmdline: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6004680/
[23:38] <annerajb> w-flo, i recally ogra telling me that the console=tty1 should be the last thing else upstart or the rootfs/init breaks
[23:38] <annerajb> it seems that's not the case you are on flipped right?
[23:38] <w-flo> yes, flipped
[23:39] <w-flo> I only have 1 console=x param
[23:39] <w-flo> maybe the order is important when you have 2, is that what ogra meant?
[23:40] <annerajb> yay reboot loop
[23:40] <w-flo> i.e. you can't have "console=tty1 console=ttyFIQ0", only the other way round
[23:41] <w-flo> I had a reboot loop when the initrd was successful, but upstart crashed/terminated/whatever
[23:42] <annerajb> how did you debug that?
[23:42] <w-flo> annerajb, I didn't debug it, ogra told me it was probably because a console device was missing, so I randomly enabled console kernel configs
[23:43] <annerajb> i am going to remove the fiq tty
[23:43] <annerajb> w-flo, i have the one you mentioend on the wiki enabled
[23:44] <w-flo> annerajb, I know.. :|
[23:45] <annerajb> well i removed the FIQ since i am not using the fiq debugger
[23:45] <annerajb> thought i am tempted to build one since that will reduce my debugging time 100000 fold
[23:45] <w-flo> It really sucks to debug those issues
[23:45] <annerajb> yup that serial usb cable would do wonders
[23:46] <w-flo> I had difficulties to include adbd in the initrd at first, because my /boot is only 4 megs
[23:46] <w-flo> and the kernel was 3.7 or something like that
[23:46] <w-flo> or maybe kernel+android initrd was 3.7
[23:46] <annerajb> yeah i saw you took it out
[23:47] <w-flo> I managed to reduce the kernel size by quite a lot, so for debugging purposes I included adbd, though I had to disable some bootimg-size safeguards.. :D
[23:47] <annerajb> did you do the patch for the extend?
[23:47] <w-flo> now that I works I removed adbd again to enable the safeguards
[23:47] <w-flo> no, no extend patch
[23:47] <annerajb> when i enabled that my device breaks it can't go into recovery anymore
[23:47] <annerajb> i have to use force
[23:47] <w-flo> I think it's specific to samsung boot loaders
[23:47] <annerajb> well my device is samsung
[23:48] <annerajb> but it breaks it
[23:48] <w-flo> :(
[23:48] <annerajb> i have to flash with heimdall every time i enable it