[12:31] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:38] <brousch> yes
[12:39] <brousch> Tinging. Working well so far. No network problems
[12:39] <snap-l> brousch: That's awesome!
[12:40] <snap-l> I would have been upset if it wasn't working.
[12:44] <brousch> It even says 4G sometimes
[12:46] <snap-l> brousch: That's better than we get in this side of the state. :)
[12:51] <brousch> Supposedly  our Sprint LTE went live a few weeks ago
[12:51] <brousch> I love the detail view on the Ting website
[12:52] <snap-l> Yeah, it's really nice.
[13:04] <jrwren> i get ATT's fake 4G on my iphone4S and it is a lot faster than their 3G on wifes iphone4
[13:46] <snap-l> I think most projects are like an onion: peel away the layers to reveal new layers, and with the removal of each layer begin crying. :)
[14:09] <snap-l> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/5-reasons-to-donate-to-ubuntu-edge
[14:10] <brousch> Jono will be at OLF?
[14:10] <snap-l> next campaign I suggest someone might hire a person with pledge-drive experience
[16:17] <waf> ok, abandoning the nick 'Blazeix', which was chosen when I was ~13
[16:17] <waf> now I at least match my github name
[16:17] <greg-g> !!!!!!!!
[16:17] <waf> i know, irc-suicide, right?
[16:18] <greg-g> I did that a while ago, too. In about 2007. I became realname esque everywhere.
[16:18] <waf> i'm at least initials now, and i won't get people assuming my nick is marijuana-related...
[16:18] <greg-g> I was ok leaving behind the nick that was associated with my angsty teen years ;)
[16:18] <greg-g> hah! I never thought of it that way!
[16:19] <waf> yeah, neither did i, until the 3rd or 4th person asked me...
[16:19] <greg-g> haha
[16:21] <_stink_> well mine is pretty professional, so i'm keeping it.
[16:21] <greg-g> _stink_++
[16:28] <snap-l> Is there a place to see if a nick is already taken?
[16:28] <waf> snap-l: /msg NickServ INFO <nick>
[16:28] <greg-g> snap-l: /whois should help
[16:28] <greg-g> ah
[16:28] <greg-g> what waf said
[16:29] <waf> if a nick isn't used for 10 weeks, plus a week per year it was registered, you can get a staffer to associate it with your account
[16:30] <greg-g> neat
[16:36] <cmaloney> There
[16:36] <greg-g> huh!
[16:36] <greg-g> nickicide day
[16:36] <_stink_> haha
[16:37] <greg-g> who's next? step right up
[16:38] <jrwren> BLAZEIX!!!! I'll never forget you.
[16:38] <jrwren> that blone hair was so cool, its how I remembered you.
[16:38] <jrwren> now you are just a wife acceptance factor.
[16:38] <waf> hahaha
[16:39] <waf> or a build system, apparently
[16:39] <greg-g> wife acceptance factor? huh
[16:39] <_stink_> haha, wife acceptance factor
[16:40] <cmaloney> Also, the past tense of waf is waft
[16:40] <cmaloney> So if waf was here but left, he waft by
[16:41] <jrwren> oh, real name? is waf your initials? william axel folley?
[16:41] <waf> u just got waft, punk
[16:41] <cmaloney> Going to keep the nick on the other networks, but that's been something I've wanted to do before
[16:41] <waf> jrwren: yeah, initials, matches https://github.com/waf
[16:42] <cmaloney> Unfortunately I'm not the only craigm
[16:42] <cmaloney> and craigmaloney is too long to type
[16:43] <greg-g> yeah, my issue is I need the - (or some other separator) due to my name
[16:44] <greg-g> greg is already taken everywhere (except identi.ca ;) ), greggrossmeier is too long, gregg is a mispelling of my name, gjg is alright, but not the best, greggros was my first email address username (autogenerated with my local ISP)...
[16:46] <cmaloney> and fukkina just sounds weird
[16:46] <waf> haha, greggros is kinda catchy. sounds like someone with a speech-impediment saying 'legos'
[16:46] <cmaloney> Or a Doctor Who villan
[16:46] <cmaloney> The greggros waged war with the krotons
[16:47] <cmaloney> ultimately the destroyed each other, and left this place
[16:48] <greg-g> :-P
[16:53] <jrwren> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2KZJzoz-qI  hrm... i don't think we have hte same definition of super advanced. specifically use of filter, map, and reduce is basic cs100 concepts.
[16:56] <waf> i suspect it depends on the language, run-of-the-mill python code favors list comprehensions and such over functional concepts, right?
[16:57] <waf> as opposed to something like C#, where you better know your linq
[16:57] <jrwren> yes and list comprehensions ARE a functional concept.
[16:57] <jrwren> a list comprehension is a specific case of map
[16:57] <waf> and can be combined with filter
[16:57] <jrwren> and if it has the if part of the list comp, then filter... right
[16:57] <jrwren> exactly
[16:58] <waf> but stuff like the itertools lib is what i usually reach for when going typical functional
[16:59] <waf> which, given my 5-second review of that 1.5 hour video, is what he's presenting?
[17:01] <jrwren> i've no idea.
[17:01] <jrwren> i didn't watch it.
[17:01] <jrwren> i read summary, "This tutorial covers some of the more complex features of the Python programming language including, functional tools(filter map reduce), itertools, metaclasses, decorators and more."
[17:01] <jrwren> none of which is superadvanced IMO
[17:02] <greg-g> well, "more complex" doesn't mean "the most complex" just "more" which, unless you have a baseline could be "more complex than learning how to do if then's"
[17:03] <jrwren> hence "i don't think we have the same definition of super advanced"
[17:03] <waf> none of that seems too advanced, though tbh i don't know what metaclasses are in python
[17:03] <cmaloney> what would you consider super-advanced?
[17:03] <jrwren> something outside of the language spec.
[17:04] <jrwren> like generating python bytecode and runtime and executing it
[17:05] <jrwren> maybe i'm too old school and think people should actually know the langauge they are using :)
[17:06] <brousch> You ask the impossible!
[17:06] <jrwren> it is a reasonably big language, but its python. Its all pretty easy.
[17:07] <jrwren> decorators might be a leap
[17:08] <jrwren> i take it back. i'd call metaclasses advanced.
[17:15] <cmaloney> I dunno. I aspire to know everything about Python, but I'm in no way able to say I command every aspect of it
[17:15] <cmaloney> It's like saying I need to know the totality of physics in order to drive a car
[17:17] <brousch> cmaloney: Welcome to the channel! I hope you enjoy your stay.
[17:19] <cmaloney> Thank you. Long time respirator, first-time caller.
[17:19]  * cmaloney feels like trolling ubuntu-locoteams
[17:20] <cmaloney> Nobody will suspect who I am
[17:20] <cmaloney> muhahahaha
[17:25] <brousch> I want this http://www.amazon.com/Internet-Programming-Python-Aaron-Watters/dp/1558514848/
[17:25] <jrwren> cmaloney: NO ONE commands every aspect. not even guido.
[20:17] <greg-g> jcastro: I may or may not have just linked to the gentoo is for ricers webpage to some coworkers
[20:18] <jrwren> i love that thing.
[20:19] <jcastro> hah
[20:20] <jcastro> Jim Zemlin didn't know about it until OSCON
[20:20] <jcastro> I was in the beer line and we were talking about it
[20:20] <jcastro> and he was like "what is this page?"
[20:20] <jcastro> I had to load it on my phone and show it to him
[20:26] <rick_h> phew, home at last
[20:26] <rick_h> hwo goes?
[20:26] <jcastro> good!
[20:27] <jcastro> cmaloney: New subwoofer ordered
[20:27] <jcastro> my Rush experience should basically crush anyone right now.
[20:31] <rick_h> ugh, emails there are many and I even kept up while I was away
[20:41] <cmaloney> jcastro: Which one did you get?
[20:41] <cmaloney> jcastro: I found one at the Salvation Army for $20 (YST-SW45)
[20:42] <cmaloney> It's a little underpowered, but my den is small, so it works perfectly.
[20:42] <cmaloney> Got the "please stop testing your music" seal of approval from JoDee