[06:33] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:38] <Kilos> hi totimkopf 
[06:39] <Kilos> you been here before hey?
[06:40] <totimkopf> Kilos: ja ek was hier
[06:41] <Kilos> mooi man welkom terug
[06:41] <totimkopf> dankie :)
[06:41] <Kilos> hoekom so skaars?
[06:41] <totimkopf> timezone
[06:41] <totimkopf> :D
[06:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:41] <totimkopf> ek's in Texas :D
[06:42] <Kilos> aha
[06:42] <totimkopf> i used to call you oom
[06:42] <totimkopf> hehhee
[06:43] <Kilos> hehe i forget our chats but the nick rang a bell
[06:51] <Kilos> yo JoTraGo 
[07:22] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:23] <Kilos> hi zerlgi 
[07:23] <zerlgi> Hi Kilos
[07:23] <zerlgi> (am lurking mostly)
[07:23] <Kilos> np
[07:27] <sakhi> Morning
[07:28] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[07:30] <totimkopf> :)
[07:48] <magespawn> good morning
[07:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:56] <maiatoday> hi magespawn
[07:56] <maiatoday> I got your message about the server book, I have already emailed to get our copy
[07:56] <maiatoday> I think we'll get pdf or epub or mobi versions too.
[07:56] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:56] <magespawn> hi Kilos maiatoday 
[07:57] <magespawn> awesome stuff maiatoday 
[07:57] <magespawn> are the pdf/epub free to share?
[07:57] <maiatoday> So I am not sure what we'll do with the physical book since our community is so distributed
[07:57] <maiatoday> I'll find out about the sharing of the pdf/epub
[07:58] <magespawn> keep it with you guys in cape town
[07:59] <maiatoday> Also when I met with ubuntu-fr people I got their french version of 13.04
[08:00] <magespawn> there was some discussion about sending a hard drive around the country maybe we could include the book with that
[08:10] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:10] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:17] <magespawn> hi psyatw 
[08:18] <psyatw> hi magespawn
[08:20] <Squirm> hello
[08:20] <psyatw> hello Squirm
[08:22] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:23] <magespawn> o/ Squirm 
[09:02] <charl> good morning all
[09:02] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:02]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:03] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:03] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[09:03] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[09:04] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:05] <charl> how's it going
[09:05] <Kilos> good ty and you
[09:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[09:06] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[09:06] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[09:06] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:06] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[09:09] <totimkopf> :)
[09:10] <totimkopf> coffee is the best
[09:10] <Kilos> hehe
[09:10] <psyatw> good morning charl
[09:11] <psyatw> hoor totimkopf
[09:11]  * psyatw is drinking water
[09:18] <charl> hi psyatw 
[09:19] <charl> totimkopf? wat is dat?
[09:19] <totimkopf> psyatw: hoor
[09:20] <totimkopf> is ekke
[09:20] <charl> totimkopf: oh sorry, i missed you there :)
[09:20] <charl> hi
[09:20] <totimkopf> hi :)
[09:55] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy inetpro 
[10:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi :)
[10:27] <Squirm> georgl: ?
[10:27] <georgl> hallo Squirm
[10:27] <Squirm> hey
[10:28] <georgl> you looking for me
[10:28] <Squirm> you into RC?
[10:28] <georgl> yup
[10:28] <georgl> model gliders
[10:28] <georgl> slope soaring
[10:28] <Squirm> my old man used to do that
[10:28] <georgl> ah ok
[10:28] <Squirm> I saw you had joined #netram 
[10:29] <georgl> yeah, been on it for a while
[10:29] <georgl> not so much now
[10:29] <Squirm> helpful bunch it seems
[10:29] <Squirm> I take it you're from KZN then?
[10:29] <georgl> nope
[10:29] <georgl> Cape Town
[11:21] <Kilos> eish, no power for an hour
[11:21] <Kilos> grrrr
[11:23] <charl> wb Kilos 
[11:23] <charl> that's irritating
[11:24] <Kilos> yeah
[11:25] <Kilos> and even with dhcp pc dont see modem in the router
[11:25] <Kilos> grrr
[11:25] <Kilos> so back to direct usb connection
[11:25] <totimkopf> ek's lus vir koffie
[11:27] <charl> totimkopf: just tell maaz "coffee on"
[11:27] <totimkopf> coffee on
[11:27] <totimkopf> maaz coffee on
[11:27]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[11:27] <charl> have any of you people tried http://manjaro.org/
[11:28] <charl> looks very promising
[11:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for totimkopf!
[11:33] <Kilos> eish these power cuts are killing my drive
[11:34] <totimkopf> someone stealing more copper?
[11:34] <Kilos> xchat disappeared then terminal couldnt open
[11:34] <Kilos> maybe they working on the lines
[11:34] <Kilos> grrr
[11:34] <Kilos> /usr/bin/ not found
[11:34] <Kilos> weird
[11:35] <Kilos> but fsck seems to have fixed it
[11:36] <Kilos> eish something not happy
[11:36] <Kilos> pc kinda hangs
[11:37] <Kilos> said something about orphan inodes when booting
[11:37] <Kilos> grrrr
[11:39] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, i use sudo touch /forcefsck to run fsck on booting
[11:39] <Kilos> can i add -f to the command
[11:39] <Kilos> or can one only use that from another drive
[11:40] <Kilos> any fsck boff may answer as well
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'd just boot from a livecd
[11:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> i've never really needed to run it manually
[11:41] <charl> i'm sorry but forcefsck sounds like drive rape
[11:41] <Kilos> run fsck -f from live cd?
[11:41] <charl> they picked a really bad name for that tool
[11:42] <Kilos> i sometimes use fsck -f from another drive
[11:43] <Kilos> like sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[11:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: essentially you run it with the target filesystem unmounted
[11:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> whether that's from a livecd or booted from a different installation on another disk is inconsequential
[11:45] <Kilos> ya ive seen warnings that it will damage system if mounted
[11:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> as long as the filesystem you check isn't mounted, it doesn't really matter how you boot the system
[11:45] <Kilos> cool ty ThatGraemeGuy 
[11:58] <Kilos> ok i go off and fix drive
[11:58] <Kilos> again
[13:03] <charl> why the dmca takedowns are ridiculous http://torrentfreak.com/microsoft-censors-openoffice-download-links-130814/
[13:07] <totimkopf> wow
[13:07] <totimkopf> censors them where? from bling?
[13:07] <totimkopf> who uses that kak search engine anyway? :p
[13:22] <charl> totimkopf: no google
[13:23] <charl> bing too
[13:23] <totimkopf> :o
[13:24] <charl> but then microsoft even managed to censor their own website on google
[13:24] <charl> so i guess this should come as no surprise
[13:25] <charl> this is also interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_301_Report
[13:26] <charl> apparently the ukraine is risking sanctions
[13:29] <charl> this is very nicely done: http://ircbrowse.net/
[13:29] <charl> seems like it has been written in haskell
[13:34] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:36] <charl> wb Kilos \
[13:39] <Kilos> ty charl 
[13:39] <Kilos> weird things with this drive
[13:40] <Kilos> 4 outa 5 boots bios dont see it then all of a sudden its there again
[13:43] <Kilos> now its working lekker fast again
[13:43] <Kilos> sigh
[13:43] <Kilos> just did a backup
[13:53] <Lone> hi everybody!
[13:56] <Kilos> aw no one greetied lone
[13:56] <Kilos> and i was fetching sheep
[13:56] <Kilos> bad peeps
[13:57] <Kilos> hi Arcanum_za 
[13:58] <Kilos> no chance to look at python router book or ibid today
[13:58] <Kilos> sigh
[13:59] <Kilos> oh well musta saved some data
[14:01] <Kilos> now nothing that not already open wants to work grrr
[14:01] <Kilos> see yous tonight
[14:10] <Kilos> back on 12.04 kubuntu konversation
[14:43] <magespawn> afternoon Kilos 
[14:43] <Kilos> hi magespawn what you been doing
[14:49] <Kilos> im just gonna do a system restart to complete an update
[14:49] <Kilos> wbb
[14:53] <Kilos> whew this empty desktop looks like no work gets done
[14:57] <magespawn> you mean we must use pc to work?
[14:58] <Kilos> lol
[14:58] <Kilos> well on unity my desktop is full of files that i use and havent energy to hunt for
[14:59] <Kilos> here i gotta go hunt for desktop
[15:01] <Kilos> and the faulty unity drive is running perfectly on the older pc and faster than here so go figure
[15:01] <Kilos> maybe its an apartheaid thing
[15:01] <magespawn> the meeting is next monday?
[15:01] <Kilos> ya
[15:01] <Kilos> no
[15:01] <magespawn> okay cool beans
[15:01] <Kilos> 28th in=snt it
[15:02] <Kilos> 26th
[15:02] <magespawn> yup thats right
[15:02] <Kilos> you are right soryy magespawn it is next monday
[15:03] <Kilos> s/soryy/sorry
[15:04] <magespawn> and next monday is the 26th
[15:04] <Kilos> yeah
[15:04] <Kilos> i forgot today is monday
[15:04] <Kilos> sue me
[15:05] <Kilos> no kudos and no free coffee for a week
[15:11] <magespawn> hah
[15:13] <magespawn> i had my first run in w8th windows secure boot today
[15:17] <Kilos> i havent even seen 8
[15:18] <Kilos> thats the prob when you work on other peeps pcs you gotta keep up to date with everything
[15:19] <Kilos> did you see what the fly said last night about debugging
[15:20] <Kilos> log.debug or something
[15:20] <Kilos> i cant see it here
[15:35] <magespawn> not even sure where you would look 
[15:38] <Kilos> lol
[15:38] <Kilos> while we were chatting about debugging
[15:38] <Kilos> oh wait
[15:39] <Kilos> i have unity running on the other pc
[15:39] <Kilos> aw stupid
[15:39] <Kilos> no internet so no xchat
[15:39] <Kilos> grrr
[15:39] <Kilos> will look another time
[15:40] <Kilos> im not gonna do the iptables thing again here and dunno how to find that pc through the router
[15:49] <magespawn> i am of home, chat later
[17:00] <kbmonkey> hallo
[17:00] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: !
[17:00] <kbmonkey> sudo !!
[17:01] <kbmonkey> whats up
[17:02] <kbmonkey> hello Vince-0 
[17:02] <kbmonkey> Kilos, are you around?
[17:02] <Kilos> yessir
[17:02] <Kilos> evening
[17:02] <Vince-0> *checking updates for SFD
[17:03] <kbmonkey> I hear you are charing tonight Kilos 
[17:03] <Kilos> meeting next monday and you the chair
[17:04] <kbmonkey> we moved it to the last monday of the month right?
[17:04] <Kilos> yip
[17:04] <kbmonkey> darnit, my calendar is wrong then!
[17:04] <kbmonkey> whoops
[17:04] <Kilos> what client you using here
[17:05] <Kilos> oh ya irssi sometyhing
[17:05] <kbmonkey> oh no, my appointement is correct, my phone's reminder is just wrong ;)
[17:05]  * kbmonkey updates
[17:05] <kbmonkey> irssi Kilos 
[17:05] <Kilos> lol
[17:05] <Kilos> test thing
[17:06] <Kilos> no topics bar at the top
[17:06] <Kilos> lotsa info in the topic bar
[17:08] <kbmonkey> I have a topic bar! they just put too much in it so it gets cut off.
[17:08] <Kilos> lol
[17:08] <kbmonkey> can do /topic
[17:08] <kbmonkey> great!
[17:08] <Kilos> cant you drag it bigger to make 2 lines
[17:08] <kbmonkey> making roast veg in the oven
[17:08] <Kilos> all important info
[17:11] <Kilos> what veggies?
[17:17] <kbmonkey> I do not drag. aint got no time for draggin'. /topic works!
[17:17] <kbmonkey> potato and onion Kilos 
[17:17] <Kilos> yum
[17:18] <kbmonkey> it is part of the meal, the other part is quinoa
[17:18] <Kilos> what is that
[17:19] <Kilos> oh you gave me a link before
[17:19] <kbmonkey> it is a protein based plant seed. looks like cous cous, but is plant.
[17:19] <Kilos> ah
[17:19] <kbmonkey> did I? I do not think so
[17:19] <charl> kartoffel und zwiebel?
[17:19] <charl> sounds delicious
[17:19] <kbmonkey> kartoefellen!
[17:19] <kbmonkey> in fact it is a complete protein
[17:19] <charl> folienkartoffel! jawohl!
[17:19] <kbmonkey> cook it like rice
[17:22] <Kilos> cully and lice be kiff
[17:22] <Kilos> of you get very lekker curry veggies in tins
[17:22] <Kilos> golddish makes the best
[17:23] <Kilos> can eat straight outa the tin
[17:23] <Kilos> no dishes
[17:25] <queery> Hi
[17:28] <kbmonkey> I live in curry country Kilos, at least 4 places in walking distance, so no need for tins if I want curry ;)
[17:28] <Kilos> hi queery 
[17:28] <kbmonkey> hello queery 
[17:28] <Kilos> oh ya i forget where you are
[17:28] <Kilos> i lived on bunnies there
[17:28] <kbmonkey> *5 places, just remembered
[17:28] <kbmonkey> crazy, huh
[17:29] <queery> Curry bunnies
[17:29] <queery> Hmmm
[17:29] <queery> Now I'm getting hungry 
[17:29] <kbmonkey> me too!
[17:29] <kbmonkey> c'mon oven, work quicker!
[17:29] <queery> Maaz what is for dinner
[17:29] <Maaz> queery: Not a clue, sorry
[17:30] <Kilos> there was one shop below the parking garage opposite the old station that sold veggie bunnies that were better than meat bunnies 
[17:30] <Kilos> the bot says supper
[17:30] <queery> Oh
[17:30] <queery> Maaz what's for supper
[17:30] <Maaz> queery: Huh?
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:31] <Kilos> no '
[17:31] <queery> Maaz what is for supper
[17:31] <Maaz> queery: I'm afraid I have no idea
[17:31] <Kilos> Mawhats for supper
[17:31] <Kilos> ai!
[17:31] <Kilos> Maaz: whats for supper
[17:31] <Maaz> A nice thick homemade  oxtail and vegetable soup for starters and then Spaghetti bolognaise
[17:31] <queery> Maaz whats for supper
[17:31] <Maaz> A nice thick homemade  oxtail and vegetable soup for starters and then Spaghetti bolognaise
[17:31] <queery> Hehe
[17:32] <queery> Yyum
[17:32] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[17:32] <nuvolari> meeting time?
[17:32] <Kilos> next week guys
[17:32] <queery> Is anyone here
[17:32] <queery> Oh seriously 
[17:32] <nuvolari> hey oom Kilos ?
[17:32] <Kilos> 4th monday of the month
[17:33] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:33] <queery> The calender said tonight
[17:33] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :) Gaan dit goed?
[17:33] <nuvolari> yeah... calendars don't lie
[17:33] <Kilos> what calender
[17:33] <Kilos> ja dankie nuvolari en jy?
[17:33] <queery> The ubuntu - za calender
[17:33] <kbmonkey> hallo nuvolari 
[17:33] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom, net besig
[17:33] <Kilos> at the last meeting the week day was changed\
[17:34] <kbmonkey> meets het mos gemove na laaste monday
[17:34] <nuvolari> howdy kbmonkey! How be you?
[17:34] <queery> Should be able to find it on the website
[17:34] <Kilos> dont you okes see the meets in the topic bar
[17:34] <kbmonkey> also thought it was tonight, my phone reminder lied to me
[17:34] <queery> I created the meeting schedule
[17:34] <nuvolari> I do see it now... but I got a reminder on my phone just now now
[17:34] <kbmonkey> lol snap nuvolari :)
[17:34] <queery> Me too
[17:34] <nuvolari> :P
[17:35] <nuvolari> blame android
[17:35] <nuvolari> :O
[17:35] <queery> Did someone change the dates? 
[17:35] <queery> No it was google
[17:35] <Kilos> well queery you are so scarce that its no wonder you lost
[17:35] <queery> I know I Havn't been here for a while
[17:35] <Kilos> months
[17:35] <nuvolari> ag, for the better, we get to check in quick and say hello
[17:35] <nuvolari> it's been ages
[17:35] <queery> I know
[17:36] <kbmonkey> meh, might as well have a irc party while we are here!
[17:36]  * kbmonkey throws confetti and blows a whirly
[17:36] <nuvolari> lol
[17:36] <queery> Haha
[17:36] <Kilos> i forget what it was but something serious conflicted with 3rd monday
[17:36]  * nuvolari distributes the party hats and tequila
[17:37] <queery> Ok I'll change the calender
[17:37] <Kilos> ty
[17:37] <nuvolari> woo let the dawgs out? woo, woo
[17:38]  * nuvolari points at woo
[17:38] <Kilos> hehe
[17:39] <nuvolari> yo Squirm, nice pics you got with your gopro
[17:39] <kbmonkey> can I swap the tequila for a double espresso?
[17:39] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: sure, why not?
[17:39] <kbmonkey> tequila makes me... do things
[17:40] <nuvolari> lol, despicable things
[17:40] <kbmonkey> like fall on my face XD
[17:40] <Kilos> lol
[17:40] <nuvolari> hopefully not with your minions
[17:40] <nuvolari> ouch
[17:40] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: that happens when you try handstands when drunk
[17:41] <kbmonkey> how else do you take body shots ?
[17:41] <nuvolari> freeze the tequila into little ice marbles and shoot them?
[17:42] <queery> Ok it's my personal one that reminded me the other one has been changed
[17:42] <Kilos> haha
[17:43] <Kilos> look in las minutes why
[17:43] <Kilos> last
[17:43] <Kilos> i forget
[17:43] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, here is what happens if I drink tequila! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IBkvs2LEPA
[17:44] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[17:44] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[17:45] <Kilos> yo Mezenir 
[17:45] <queery> Ok dinner time
[17:47] <queery> Gnite 
[17:47] <kbmonkey> gn queery 
[17:47] <kbmonkey> hey same here, Ima go nom some dinner
[18:02] <Kilos> aw inetpro i forgot how to underline in konversation
[18:02] <Kilos> dont give me a link or say man konversation
[18:02] <Kilos> im too tired
[18:13] <nuvolari> I have no clue oom Kilos 
[18:13] <nuvolari> maybe Ctrl+U?
[18:13] <nuvolari> or _word_
[18:13] <nuvolari> wild guess :P
[18:13] <Kilos> it was control something
[18:14] <Kilos> whew ive spent too much time on unity
[18:15] <Kilos> whew  ctrl+m wants to hide the menu bar
[18:15] <Kilos> eeek
[18:15] <Kilos> eish
[18:16] <Kilos> ctrl+l wipes the page clean
[18:16] <Kilos> gooooosiiieeeeeeeee
[18:16] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[18:16]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:17] <nuvolari> hehe
[18:17] <nuvolari> het oom u probeer?
[18:17] <Kilos> ja
[18:18] <nuvolari> meh :-/
[18:18] <nuvolari> probeer _woord_?
[18:19] <Kilos> dis net een letter ek dink
[18:19] <Kilos> _woord_
[18:20] <Kilos> _woord_?
[18:20] <nuvolari> nee hu-uh, dit werk nie :-/
[18:20] <nuvolari> [u]toets[/u]
[18:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:20] <nuvolari> :P werk nog minder
[18:21] <Kilos> Maty
[18:21] <Kilos> ai¡
[18:21] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[18:21] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:21] <Kilos> en daar is nie eers n man konversation
[18:21] <Kilos> nie
[18:21] <inetpro> Kilos: look in the menu
[18:22] <Kilos> ya konversation handbook
[18:22] <inetpro> KDE generally displays keyboard shortcuts nicely in the menu
[18:23] <inetpro> and if you don't find it there you look under Settings | Configure Shortcuts
[18:23] <inetpro> good evening
[18:25] <Kilos> ai!
[18:25] <Kilos> ctrl+r
[18:26] <inetpro> ahh, you see
[18:26] <Kilos> but thats a massive book
[18:26] <Kilos> how are you inetpro 
[18:26] <Kilos> evening morning and all
[18:26] <inetpro> ok thanks
[18:26] <inetpro> just tired from yet another rough monday
[18:27] <Kilos> ai!
[18:27]  * inetpro almost thought that we're having our monthly meeting tonight
[18:27] <Kilos> so did some others hehe
[18:27] <inetpro> will take a while to get used to the new date
[18:28] <Kilos> yeah
[18:28] <Kilos> but i normally warn peeps when it gets close
[18:28] <inetpro> thanks oom
[18:28] <Kilos> dunno how i gonna twitter from here
[18:29] <Kilos> i got apartheid creeping in on the pc here
[18:29] <Kilos> my unity 500g drive keeps crashing and hanging and more but in the old p4 it runs kiff
[18:30] <Kilos> and its faster on the slower machine so i got some thinking to do
[18:31] <Kilos> maybe ram messing
[18:31] <Kilos> but kde runs fine and maverick
[18:38] <Kilos> what is a dhcp client id? the ip addy?
[18:40] <Kilos> oh inetpro, how do i stop /var/cache/apt/archives to save all the packages in it please and not empty every time i switch off
[18:40] <Kilos> sorry to bug you
[19:20] <Kilos> shame he sleepin
[19:20] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:28] <magespawn> good evening all
[19:28] <magespawn> looks like i missed the party
[19:29] <superfly> huh?
 meh, might as well have a irc party while we are here!
[19:35] <magespawn> people thought the monthly meeting was tonight.
[19:57] <magespawn> good night
[21:45] <adeebnqo> did yu guys agree on a time for python&linux classes?
[21:45] <adeebnqo> the