[00:00] <wilee-nilee> bluefox83, What is the latest?
[00:00] <bluefox83> huh?
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> wrong nick
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, What is the latest?
[00:01] <bluefox83> heh, s'ok
[00:01] <bluefox83> gcc doesn't really get updated that often i wouldn't think...so it's likely already got the latest gcc
[00:03] <FastCode> you know, gcc's latest versions aren't faster just because their newer, They actually suck until the last few days before release, see phoronix.there are some really good benchmarks there.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, I see debs on the internet.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> http://pkgs.org/download/gcc
[00:07] <vaskaloidis> Hey I installed Nagios from the source and its not working - how do I uninstall it
[00:07] <vaskaloidis> I would like to reinstall it from apt-get
[00:08] <vaskaloidis> can I just go ahead and install it from apt-get maybe?
[00:08] <Prock81> i just figure out its a binary file so this dont work    egrep -v '\\|\.' file >> newfile
[00:09] <vaskaloidis> Anybody know?
[00:10] <exidos> What do you want to know?
[00:10] <Prock81> gedit locks up on open file, and leafpad only shows first 3 chars, nano works perfict but i cant copy the hole thing with nano
[00:10] <vaskaloidis> I installed nagios from source exidos but it doesn't work
[00:11] <exidos> What is the error msg?
[00:11] <Gerowen> So I've downloaded Xubuntu and am having the same problem I had with Ubuntu, when I boot from the install source, I get to the animated logo and it just sits there, animating away, but I never actually get to the installation.
[00:11] <vaskaloidis> exidos: I can't load the web interface
[00:11] <vaskaloidis> exidos: how do I know if its running
[00:11] <Gerowen> Prock81: As far as I'm aware, there is no text editor that will display the contents of a binary file, because it's binary.
[00:11] <vaskaloidis> ps aux says its running
[00:11] <exidos> Did you check the wiki from ubuntu vaskaloidis ?
[00:12] <exidos> Sry, I dont know what you have to do vaskaloidis
[00:12] <DititalIceCream> hello
[00:13] <reisio> : hi DititalIceCream
[00:15] <vaskaloidis> would it be bad to just install nagios through apt-get along side of its install from source
[00:16] <reisio> vaskaloidis: it would at the very least be redundant, don't you think?
[00:16] <vaskaloidis> got that right
[00:17] <jordilopezamat> hello ubuntu community
[00:17] <reisio> hello jordilopezamat
[00:17] <jordilopezamat> hello reisio
[00:17] <reisio> ;)
[00:18] <jordilopezamat> :-/ i'm a little bit puzzled ...
[00:18] <jordilopezamat> newbie here ... i' stucked on the following (it's not a "in production" server) ¿HOWTO optimise current partitioning? ? 1. i started from this disk partioning  http://db.tt/6tcKC9HW  2. then (temporarily) removed swap partition and tried to enlarge /home capacity... but i (stupidly) slipped onto this  http://db.tt/uteG7QaI
[00:18] <jordilopezamat> :-D
[00:19] <reisio> jordilopezamat: so what's the problem?
[00:19] <daftykins> ooh-err, two separate unallocated segments
[00:19] <jordilopezamat> ¿HOWTO optimise current partitioning? It's a little bit messy ...
[00:19] <daftykins> and a primary after an extended, eww
[00:19] <jordilopezamat> just want / , /home and /swap
[00:19] <jordilopezamat> :-/
[00:19] <daftykins> i'd back it up and start again
[00:20] <jordilopezamat> yes daftkyins... exactly :-/
[00:20] <jordilopezamat> start again from scratch you mean ?
[00:21] <jordilopezamat> i'm on a Live-Usb now , FYI
[00:21] <jordilopezamat> thanks again :-)
[00:21] <jordilopezamat> for your hints...
[00:22] <Marlenee> what mean that error while i install apt-get install htop : Segmentation faultsts... 20%
[00:22] <crypticmofo> hi all .. i used unetbootin to put a ubuntu iso onto it / i boot up and i get a boot 0 erro
[00:22] <crypticmofo> any ideas ?
[00:23] <chrs_> when i try to dpkg -i install a package i get a conflict error
[00:23] <chrs_> but when i try to uninstall the conflicting package, it wants to uninstall a bunch of other packages
[00:23] <chrs_> can i just swap them?
[00:24] <crypticmofo> anyone ?
[00:24] <crypticmofo> im trying to boot ubuntu from a usb drive ?
[00:24] <daftykins> crypticmofo: try universal usb installer from pendrivelinux.com
[00:24] <crypticmofo> ok
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, Check the sum of the iso and maybe try another usb loader.
[00:25] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, ive had similar issues
[00:25] <crypticmofo> stirnwer i always have issues with unetbootin .. what we are both saying its a POS
[00:26] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, i find that a handy way is to install grub(4dos?) or syslinux on the usb and then add various operating systems to it
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> i have also had issues with unetbootin in the past. I tend to use the many tools at the Pendrivelinux web site
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> I really like the ones that setup grub2 to boot ISO files. that way you can have a single flashd rive that boots differnt disrtos
[00:26] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, then you may just try with various boot commands, edit the menu file if something goes wrong on first attempt
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> or i just 'dd' (image) the  iso file straight to the flash.
[00:28] <stirnwer> crypticmofo, "i boot up and i get a boot 0 erro" - could you spell out the entire error message?
[00:28] <jose> hey guys! I'm trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 from one of canonical's CDs, and I get the error
[00:29] <jose> oops, sorry
[00:29] <jose> error is: '/install/vmlinuz: file not found'
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | jose
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> first guess would be it was a bad iso file or a bad burn jose
[00:29] <reisio> jose: from the installation, or the CD as it boots up?
[00:30] <jose> reisio: once I get the screen to select the options
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> the screen on the Install cd?
[00:30] <reisio> jose: from an installation, or the CD?
[00:30] <jose> Dr_Willis, wilee-nilee: those checks have been done by the provider :)
[00:30] <jose> reisio: from the CD
[00:30] <reisio> okay
[00:30] <reisio> what Dr_Willis said, then
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> what provider?
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> jose, What provider?
[00:30] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: I need 4.7.2 but I have 4.6.3
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> Ive definatly seen 'good' cd's not totally be readable by a differnt pc due to differances in the optical drive
[00:31] <jose> well, Canonical sends LoCos CDs that have been burnt by a provider, they make sure images are the same and there are no burn failures
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, What release you running?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> I would be very much suprised if they verify every single cd.
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> burn them in bulk, ship them out.
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[00:31] <daftykins> verifications can be quick processes after a burn though
[00:32] <crypticmofo> thanks
[00:32] <tgm4883> jose, I'd be surprised if the canonical shipped CD's were burnt
[00:32] <jose> yeah, I'm trying with another one
[00:33] <jose> and another CD gives out the same result
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> jose, I would get the iso from the torrent it checks them.
[00:33] <tgm4883> or zsync
[00:34] <jose> wilee-nilee: as I said, I didn't download the ISO.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> jose, Did I say you did?
[00:34] <bluefox83> ok, so i finally just broke down and i'm moving files one folder at a time and rsync just wasn't working, kept saying operation wasn't permitted...no idea what that was about. but it's currently sending at a whopping 600k across the wifi
[00:34] <KM0201> jose: well is downloading the ISO not an option for some reason?
[00:34] <bluefox83> afk
[00:34] <jose> indirectly, but let's get back to the point :)
[00:34] <jose> KM0201: I already did, and it was torrented
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> jose, Your point is pointless if you want help.
[00:35] <KM0201> if it was torrented, then it's not the ISO
[00:35] <reisio> well, it could be the ISO :)
[00:35] <chrs_> i want to install package a2.deb but it conflicts with a1.deb. but a lot of packages depend on a1.deb. is there an easy way to do a swap?
[00:35] <tgm4883> what what?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> canonical has torrents
[00:35] <jose> wilee-nilee: well, I'll try with some other people around, thanks anyways!
[00:35] <reisio> chrs_: what're the packages? :p
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> chrs_:  dpkg -i foo1.deb foo2.deb foo3.deb
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> chrs_:  oh wait i miisread that.
[00:36] <chrs_> reisio: they're on my local hard disk
[00:36] <KM0201> you should be able to remove "a2" w/o removing all its dependencies
[00:36] <OerHeks> jose so what is your CPU architecture?
[00:36] <chrs_> ok, you mean remove "a1"?
[00:36] <reisio> what, not where
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> wonder if dpkg  can do a dpkg -i foo1  -r foo2 (well wait.. dpkg cant remove)
[00:36] <chrs_> reisio: oh sorry
[00:36] <chrs_> reisio: they are x drivers
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> chrs_:  whats the package names exactly?
[00:37] <jose> OerHeks: one of the oldest 64x
[00:37] <KM0201> chrs_: well, if you remove "a1".. and it says.. "these packages are no longer required"... that doesn't mean they are being removed... now if it says they're being removed... that's different
[00:37] <bluefox83> i wish there was a way to move those files faster via smb because it's saying it's gonna take over a day to move them all :(
[00:37] <reisio> bluefox83: use something else? :p
[00:38] <chrs_> libegl1-mesa is what i want to remove, chromium-mali-opengles is what i want to install
[00:38] <chrs_> naturally, a lot of packages depend on the mesa libraries
[00:38] <tgm4883> bluefox83, don't use wifi?
[00:38] <reisio> bluefox83: you're moving from one internal hard disk to another internal hard disk, over the network is that right?
[00:38] <basichash> How can i change tab space on vim?
[00:39] <zangaroo> how do i verify a .deb i have one the signing key and don't wish to add the repository ?
[00:39] <reisio> basichash: echo 'set ts=4 sw=4' >> ~/.vimrc
[00:39] <basichash> reisio: thanks
[00:40] <chrs_> KM0201: it says dpkg: dependency problems prevent the removal of libegl1-mesa
[00:40] <chrs_> then it doesn't remove the package
[00:40] <KM0201> well, there you go
[00:41] <yeehi> What is the maximum amount of traffic on the busiest Ubuntu mirrors at peak times? What is an average amount of traffic (up/down) for a busy server?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> busiest.. is on release day. :) when they are so busy they are down.. ;P
[00:41] <reisio> more than a bread basket
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if they got extra servers they bring up for release day/week loads.. then  turn them off  when not needed
[00:42] <basichash> How do I save an open file in vim?
[00:42] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, they repurpose build servers from LP
[00:42] <tgm4883> last I checked anyway
[00:43] <chrs_> KM0201: i guess i want to force remove the package and install my own package in its place
[00:43] <daftykins> basichash: escape, :wq, enter i think
[00:43] <chrs_> it should work since it provides the same libraries
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> !vim
[00:43] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: I stumbled on this, it helped http://askubuntu.com/questions/113291/how-do-i-install-gcc-4-7
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> time to run vimtutor and learn some vim i think
[00:43] <KM0201> chrs_: i think that would be a bad idea... if it provided the same libraries, it wouldn't cause the error when you tried to install it.
[00:43] <basichash> daftykins: how do I do :wq? What is it?
[00:44] <daftykins> typing exactly that
[00:44] <basichash> daftykins: right, thanks
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Vinnie_win, Just be aware PPA's are not supported here if you have a problem.
[00:44] <tood> 13.04 on laptop, dist-upgrade gives me 3.8.0-27 is this correct?
[00:44] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: It seemed to work pretty well
[00:45] <Vinnie_win> wilee-nilee: My app built
[00:45] <chrs_> KM0201: http://pastebin.com/wTT1J8kt
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> tood, dist-upgrade means what to you?
[00:46] <chrs_> the thing is i don't care about the mesa libs at all
[00:47] <crypticmofo>  hey all
[00:47] <tood> updates the kernel
[00:47] <crypticmofo> i can boot up after using the pendrive thanks .. but it keeps trying to check for a cdrom not my usb drive
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> tood, If you run it, it tells you waht is there.
[00:47] <crypticmofo> should i download a live ubuntu iso then boot form there ?
[00:48] <tood> the intewebs say the currant kernel is 3.8.0-28
[00:48] <holstein> crypticmofo: you made a live "pen drive"?
[00:48] <Ben64> tood: dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,           also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions           of packages
[00:48] <holstein> crypticmofo: what do you want to do?
[00:48] <Ben64> tood: it doesn't mean "kernel upgrade"
[00:48] <tood> ben64  yes
[00:49] <crypticmofo> holstein i need to install ubuntu .. i need to boot into ubuntu / parition the hdd then install ubuntu
[00:49] <holstein> crypticmofo: thats not how you install it
[00:49] <holstein> crypticmofo: you *dont* "boot in ubuntu partition" to install.. that specifically will not work
[00:49] <crypticmofo> holstein it has gparted right ?
[00:50] <tood> shoot, I did read apt-get man, buut did mis understand
[00:50] <holstein> crypticmofo: you would make installation media.. there is an iso.. you download the iso and either burn it to cd or make a bootable usb stick (i use unetbootin)
[00:50] <holstein> crypticmofo: gparted is in the repos.. and either is on the live installation media, or installable
[00:50] <bluefox83> reisio: i am moving from one internal hard drive on one machine, to another internal hard drive on another machine via wifi...
[00:50] <crypticmofo> holstein yes ubuntu is on my usb drive .. i can boot to it .. but when i get to the install part it looks for a cdrom not my usb drive and it fails
[00:50] <bluefox83> sorry it took so long to respond >.>
[00:51] <holstein> crypticmofo: what iso did you download? from where? and how did you make the stick?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, Are you hitting the yes to unmount something when asked?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> if asked
[00:51] <crypticmofo> wilee-nilee i go to install / unitied states / keyboard  / then it says checking cdrom integrity / then it errors out
[00:52] <holstein> crypticmofo: what iso did you download? from where? and how did you make the stick?
[00:52] <bluefox83> crypticmofo: you might have a bad iso :/
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, I would check the sum on the iso, and answer holstein
[00:52] <DanC_> since when does an `apt-date update` take 10 minutes? is it just my network, or is anybody else seeing this?
[00:52] <crypticmofo> ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64
[00:52] <crypticmofo> ok one sec ok
[00:53] <holstein> crypticmofo: d you have 64bit hardware? do you want 12.04? how did you make the bootable stick?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, YOU changed anything, like using a proxy...etc?
[00:53] <KM0201> or, it's having trouble contacting a 3rd party repo
[00:53] <KM0201> like a ppa
[00:53] <KM0201> you should be able to see where it's hanging up.
[00:53] <holstein> yup.. bad or old/slow sources can do that
[00:53] <DanC_> no... well, I've been changing some things since I saw the symptoms; e.g. trying different mirrors
[00:53] <bluefox83> i've read that the startup disk creator thingy in the latest 64bit ubuntu is broken >.>
[00:54] <Vinnie_win> Where do I install boost?
[00:54] <bluefox83> or it was, like a week ago
[00:54] <crypticmofo> holstein yes .. im on a lenova twist device its 64 bit windows 8 .. i downloaded the iso from a ubuntu website (im looking for it) i used universal usb installer to make it
[00:54] <Vinnie_win> How do I find out where my current boost is located?
[00:54] <holstein> Vinnie_win: what boost? what exactly are you trying to do?
[00:54] <DanC_> dpkg -L boost
[00:54] <holstein> crypticmofo: try unetbootin.. try confirming the iso download
[00:54] <DanC_> apt-cache policy boost # to see if it's installed at all
[00:54] <crypticmofo> holstein http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[00:54] <holstein> !md5 > crypticmofo
[00:54] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: Hmm its not installed
[00:54] <crypticmofo> holstein i tried unibutin it didn't working
[00:54] <DanC_> apt-cache search boost # to see if you got the name of the package right
[00:54] <crypticmofo> s/working/work/
[00:55] <holstein> crypticmofo: what youa re trying now, is not working
[00:55] <crypticmofo> ok let me mdf it
[00:55] <holstein> crypticmofo: the commmon thread is, the downloaded iso, your network.. the usb stick (potentially) and you
[00:55] <crypticmofo> mmd5*
[00:55] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: Yeah I got some of the libraries. I know i Have boost because I've been building my app with it. I would like to remove it, and reinstall the latest boost myself
[00:55]  * DanC_ presumes he means the boost c++ library http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_(C%2B%2B_libraries)
[00:56] <bluefox83> that's odd, i always think *I* am the problem first...then go on to the software, then the hardware...lol
[00:56] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: I updated my gcc using a ppa and now the prebuilt boost libraries are incompatible
[00:56] <DanC_> eek... you're way out there on the edge, Vinnie_win.
[00:56] <DanC_> what _are_ you trying to do?
[00:56] <bluefox83> Vinnie_win: that's why i try not to update libraries like that...
[00:57] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: First I want to remove all traces of the existing boost install. Then I want to reinstall boost on my own using the instructions on boost.org
[00:57] <DanC_> really? you want to play around with installing libraries? and then you'll be happy? no further goal?
[00:57] <Vinnie_win> DanC_: No more using ubuntu's package manager for the boost libraries..I need to do it myself, and build the libraries myself, so I can have different  versions installed for testing
[00:58] <crypticmofo> holstein cff39ccc589c7797aacce9efee7b5f93 *ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64.iso is the same as http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/MD5SUMS
[00:58] <crypticmofo> first line
[00:58] <holstein> Vinnie_win: build what you like.. and maintain it on your own.. the repo versions are officialy supported here..
[00:58] <holstein> Vinnie_win: i would probably consider virtualization for that
[00:58] <Vinnie_win> holstein: Sure. But how do I remove what is already installed?
[00:59] <Vinnie_win> holstein: I definitely used the package manager to get boost in there in the first place. I dont recall building it myself
[00:59] <DanC_> apt-get remove libboost-dev #or the like; use apt-cache search or dpkg -l to find the name
[00:59] <Vinnie_win> Danc_: Ah yes! libboost-dev that is definitely ringing a bell
[01:00] <holstein> crypticmofo: ok.. you dont need to share that here.. you can just test that on your own, and confirm it.. then move on.. try a different USB stick.. try the same stick on different hardware.. make the stick with unetbootin *after* manually reformatting it
[01:00] <DanC_> might I recommend checkinstall to package up the results when you build it yourself, Vinnie_win
[01:00] <holstein> crypticmofo: i assure you.. the iso's work.. and i use them routinely.. what *specific* issue did you have with unetbootin?
[01:00] <Vinnie_win> danc_: Not sure what you mean by package up the results
[01:00] <francisco_> hi
[01:00] <francisco_> :D
[01:01] <DanC_> nobody else is seeing `apt-get update` take 15 minutes? (and counting...)
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, Have you checked you net speed?
[01:01] <holstein> DanC_: no.. and as i (and other suggested( that can be due to slow sources.. did you add PPA's?
[01:01] <crypticmofo> holstein first things first im going to parition my hard drive and start over ok
[01:01] <DanC_> heh... I *just* typed speedtest.net into my browser as you wrote that, wilee-nilee
[01:02] <DanC_> and yes, I've added PPAs here and there. any clues on telling which one is slow?
[01:02] <holstein> crypticmofo: do what you like.. i use a gparted live CD.. if you cant boot live CD's, you might have issues in generall doing maintenance like that
[01:02] <holstein> DanC_: i usually disable them *all*, run the updated command.. and add them back
[01:02] <Vinnie_win> danc_: Could you give me a clue to where in the file system I should extract the boost_1_54 directory? Would it normally go in /usr/local/ or something?
[01:02] <holstein> DanC_: one at a time..
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, did you check that all the ppa's have releases for your release?
[01:03] <crypticmofo> holstein there is a option on the gparted webpage to use the usbliveuniveral thing to make it boot
[01:03] <holstein> crypticmofo: i use unetbootin.. use what is working, which right now, is nothing for you
[01:03] <DanC_> Vinnie_win, well, now there you're getting off-topic for this channel. I'd bet there's a #boost channel not far from here.
[01:03] <crypticmofo> ok thanks br
[01:03] <crypticmofo> b
[01:03] <holstein> crypticmofo: try taking the stick you make to another machine. try another stick.. try another iso..
[01:04] <crypticmofo> i will
[01:04] <DanC_> 0.34Mbps download speed. :-{{{{
[01:05] <DanC_> 0.24 that is
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> DanC_, Reboot the router
[01:06] <DanC_> not a bad idea
[01:06]  * DanC_ wonders why people put up with this.
[01:06] <DanC_> can you imagine if you had to turn your fridge off and on every other week?
[01:06] <KM0201> DanC_: i never have to reboot my router
[01:08] <francisco_> ._.
[01:08] <daftykins> O_O
[01:08] <c2tarun> Hi friends, when I resume my laptop from Sleep mode, Ubuntu is not able to increase brightness of laptop. Its brightness is so low after resuming that I can barely see anything. So everytime I resume I have to increase brightness manually. Is there any fix to this problem?
[01:09] <bluefox83> i just made some changes to my smb.conf how do i get samba to start reading the new smb.conf?
[01:10] <somsip> bluefox83: sudo service smbd restart
[01:10] <stirnwer> c2tarun, screen settings? should be possible to adjust that
[01:10] <bluefox83> somsip: wont that just restart it? i thought you had to do somethign to get it to rehash it or something?
[01:11] <c2tarun> stirnwer, sorry, I am not able to understand, can you please rephrase
[01:11] <somsip> bluefox83: I've not had to do that before but I suppose it might depend on what you changed
[01:11] <vlad24bit> there is a maximum brightness usually configurable in your video cards utility menu
[01:12] <vlad24bit> do you have intel? ati? nvidia?
[01:12] <vlad24bit> I know ati and nvidia have one
[01:14] <MrHotsauce> anyone have any experience with dd-wrt firwmare and xubuntu when the router is set in repeater mode? (all my devices except my xubuntu laptop will connect to my bridge wireless)
[01:14] <bluefox83> i really hate my router >.>
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | bluefox83
[01:15] <bluefox83> what?
[01:15] <bluefox83> O.o
[01:16] <pepper_chico> I love mine, researched it before the buy, replaced all antennas by now
[01:16] <KM0201> that you hate your router.. :)
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> bluefox83, This is support I notice you are just making comments many of which have b=no evidens, like a "I read that" for example.
[01:16] <bluefox83> oh, well mine is a wrt54g that's like, 8 years old or something...it's super slow...
[01:16] <reisio> bluefox83: both desktops?
[01:16] <bluefox83> reisio: eh, a laptop and a desktop
[01:17] <reisio> ah
[01:17] <vlad24bit> I get a good 100mbps on my at&t router
[01:17] <reisio> still, you could probably take the drive out of the source box, and hook it up to the destination box
[01:17] <pepper_chico> mine is a TP-Link TL-WR1043ND
[01:17] <reisio> and increase transfer time massively
[01:17] <bluefox83> wilee-nilee: the router comment was really because dispite adding some new stuff to smb.conf to speed things up...my router is bottlenecking my speeds rediculously
[01:17] <reisio> erm, decrease :)
[01:17] <reisio> increase transfer time _efficiency_, heh
[01:18] <vlad24bit> which is funny cause the damn thing and most routers are suppose to get 10 times that
[01:18] <bluefox83> reisio: i wish i had the stuff to do that...buuuut i don't D:
[01:18] <reisio> a lot only get their boasted speeds with inferior security configurations
[01:18] <reisio> bluefox83: what stuff are you lacking?
[01:19] <bluefox83> cabling?
[01:19] <reisio> bluefox83: no you already have cables
[01:19] <reisio> that's how your computers connect to the drives they're using right now
[01:19] <bluefox83> O.o
[01:19] <reisio> with cables
[01:19] <bluefox83> how am i connecting a laptop hard drive to a desktop, or vise-versa?
[01:19] <reisio> just take it out of one and put it into another
[01:20] <bluefox83> there are no cables in my laptop...it just sits there >.>
[01:20] <reisio> then it's just up to your desktop
[01:20] <reisio> how many drives does it have?
[01:20] <bluefox83> and, there's no way to hook that drive into my desktop...
[01:20] <reisio> sure there is
[01:20] <bluefox83> 2 currently...
[01:21] <reisio> perfect, then you have at least one spare cable
[01:21] <reisio> which is all you need
[01:21] <bluefox83> dude, i'm tellin ya, there is no compatible cable in that desktop to hook that hard drive in there!
[01:21] <reisio> why? One is PATA and one is SATA?
[01:21] <bluefox83> there's an IDE and an SATA...none of them will hook to this drive :(
[01:22] <reisio> your laptop uses neither IDE or SATA?
[01:22] <reisio> that's hard to believe
[01:22] <bluefox83> it just kinda sits on a little connector...i dunno which it woudl be
[01:22] <bluefox83> *would
[01:22] <vlad24bit> funkgle
[01:22] <reisio> well, it's almost certainly one or the other :)
[01:22] <bluefox83> i'm really not taking the hard drive out to do that anyways >.>
[01:22] <reisio> if your desktop handles both, it doesn't matter which it is
[01:22] <reisio> why not? :p
[01:22] <reisio> it'll save you hours and hours
[01:23] <bluefox83> cus i have to be in bed in like half an hour...
[01:23] <reisio> well it doesn't take 30 minutes to plug a cable into a drive... :)
[01:23] <reisio> but suit yourself
[01:23] <bluefox83> no, it'll take me that long to get teh case off...LOL
[01:23] <bluefox83> *the
[01:23] <reisio> ooooh
[01:23] <reisio> okay
[01:23] <reisio> something to think about next time, then
[01:24] <bluefox83> the door to that stupid case is crazy
[01:24] <DanC_> this is getting bad. after rebooting router and cablemodem, download speed was measured at 0.17 Mbps. Now I'm struggling to load speedtest.net at all.
[01:24] <vlad24bit> it takes 20min to transfer 100GB for me, you better hurry if the drive isn't even connected
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> they got those Universial-to-usb adators.. ;)
[01:24] <bluefox83> Dr_Willis: i don't have one :(
[01:25] <bluefox83> i'd freakin kill for something to make my 1tb work on my laptop, i'd have solved this crap hours ago >.>
[01:26] <vlad24bit> you need a hd encloser that supports the drive, you can buy them oniline
[01:26] <bluefox83> man...i'm gonna need to rebuild my plexmediaserver again >.>
[01:26] <reisio> you don't need an enclosure if you have a tower
[01:26] <vlad24bit> then just plug in usb usually 3.0
[01:26] <reisio> those... are enclosures
[01:26] <bluefox83> yeah...i don't have one of those either (or the money)
[01:26] <bluefox83> reisio: i
[01:26] <vlad24bit> light a match and run
[01:26] <reisio> why can't you use your 1tb on your laptop?
[01:27] <bluefox83> ve recently discovered that my primary partition is also messed up and needs a fsck :(
[01:27] <bluefox83> uhm...because i don't have a hookup for it...lol
[01:27] <reisio> it's just a bare internal drive?
[01:28] <bluefox83> internal desktop hard drives wont fit in laptops, so you need an enclosure...
[01:28] <reisio> mmm, you could use your desktop :)
[01:28] <reisio> but you said you don't have the time or something now :)
[01:28]  * bluefox83 facepalms
[01:28] <bluefox83> right
[01:28] <JavaCrash7> huft...
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> just use the powers of your mind...
[01:28] <bluefox83> i totally have a spare laptop hard drive >.>
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:28] <reisio> if it's not done when you wake, probably should go ahead
[01:29] <bonelabs>  /exit
[01:29] <bluefox83> dang, i was hoping this laptop had a second spot for another hard drive...
[01:30] <bluefox83> my last one did...but that laptop got fried >.>
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> I had a laptop that had 2 HD slots..  came in handy.
[01:30] <reisio> enclosures are like $20 :)
[01:30] <reisio> but unless you have eSATA, it'll still be slower than taking the drive out and hooking it up directly
[01:30] <bluefox83> i'll keep that in mind the next time i'm not hundreds of dollars in debt lol
[01:31] <reisio> mmm, well, watching data copy isn't going to help you get out of debt
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-USB-SATA-Cable-Adapter/dp/B001OORN06/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1376875842&sr=8-11&keywords=usb+hd+adaptor   $7
[01:31] <reisio> :D
[01:31] <bluefox83> pushin 840+kbps now :)
[01:31] <kimsia> i jallo
[01:31] <kimsia> hi there
[01:31] <kimsia> I just typed apt-get update
[01:31] <kimsia> and now i am getting a long list of EDAC i7core: Lost 127 memory errors
[01:31] <bluefox83> O.o
[01:31] <kimsia> The list has kept running for the past 5 minutes
[01:32] <kimsia> What is happenning?
[01:32] <bluefox83> so the speed just keeps going up and up and up...that's totally awesome >.>
[01:33] <bluefox83> it's heading towards 1mbps >.>
[01:35] <bluefox83> ok, i need to shower...then go to bed. Thanks for the ideas and convo folks. you've been a huge help :)
[01:35] <reisio> 1mbps vs 1.5-6gbit/s :p
[01:36] <bluefox83> it's at 1.1mbps
[01:36] <bluefox83> and climbing
[01:39] <OerHeks> kimsia, looks like you are answered > http://askubuntu.com/questions/334328/typed-apt-get-update-now-showing-a-long-list-of-edac-errors-is-there-anything
[01:45] <kimsia> OerHeks: thanks for alerting me
[01:59] <Agamemnus> ok, i'm trying another approach
[01:59] <Agamemnus> i'll compile directly on centos
[01:59] <Agamemnus> but i don't know how to download files from a url on centos
[01:59] <Agamemnus> how can I do that?
[02:00] <holstein> Agamemnus: i would ask in a centos support channel.. this is the ubuntu support channel.. wget is what i would use in the commandline
[02:00] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, probably wget
[02:00] <Gerowen> So for anybody who was here earlier when I was having issues with my installer hanging, it was the NVidia stand alone video card.  It had an old NVidia GeForce FX 5500 in it, so I took it out and used the on-board card, and it booted the installer just fine.
[02:00] <Agamemnus> damnit
[02:00] <Agamemnus> i'm so tired
[02:01] <Agamemnus> i wanted to go to centos
[02:01] <Agamemnus> sorry
[02:01] <holstein> !languabe
[02:01] <holstein> !language
[02:01] <Agamemnus> dangnabit.
[02:01] <holstein> Agamemnus: :)
[02:01] <pvl1> i cant seem to get the nvidia module to load
[02:01] <pvl1> i think
[02:02] <holstein> !nvidia
[02:03] <holstein> pvl1: shouldnt need to do much special other than install the package, if the hardware is supported
[02:03] <pvl1> holstein: i downloaded it from their website, and ran the installed in recovery
[02:04] <holstein> pvl1: ideally "they" provide support for "their" packages.. but, there should be references on the link i gave.. i usually try the repo one first
[02:05] <m4yh3m> does anybody play halo on ubuntu? i'm trying to use a tool halothirdfov is to remove the fov and get thirdperson view..
[02:06] <holstein> m4yh3m: in wine?
[02:06] <m4yh3m> it's halo 2 Custom edition..
[02:07] <m4yh3m> holstein, i can play the game but the this tool halothirdfov doesn't run
[02:07] <holstein> m4yh3m: in wine? are you using wine? is it a windows game that you are using wine to run?
[02:07] <m4yh3m> holstein, i'm using wine.. i was able to play halo fine..
[02:08] <m4yh3m> but i want to run that tool.. halothirdfov.. that one is not running
[02:08] <holstein> m4yh3m: i would ask in a wine channel.. typically, when i am "forced" to run unsupported software in wine, im pretty happy with what does work
[02:08] <m4yh3m> is the a wine channel? o.O
[02:09] <holstein> m4yh3m: ideally, the game devs tell you how you are intended to run it on linux.. since that will me "you are not intended to run it in linux", you try asking someone using wine.. and i would try the wine channel
[02:09] <m4yh3m> i will try to find the wine channel :P
[02:09] <m4yh3m> thank you holstein
[02:10] <holstein> m4yh3m: #winehq AFAIK
[02:10] <m4yh3m> holstein, just found it :P thanks
[02:14] <pvl1> i installed ubuntu gnome on a laptop today, and i noticed the laptop is getting really really hot. what could be the cause
[02:15] <holstein> pvl1: graphics driver support.. gnome/unity use 3d desktops. you can try using something like xfce or try a different graphics drive
[02:16] <holstein> driver*
[02:17] <ikonia> probably power management support issues
[02:18] <crypticmofo> holstein: you around still ?
[02:18] <crypticmofo> or anyone
[02:19] <crypticmofo> holstein:  so .. i partiioned my hdd right .. i botted up to ubuntu im at the ubuntu installer memu
[02:19] <crypticmofo> its a load load insaller componets from cd
[02:19] <crypticmofo> but it keeps looking for a cd-rom drive i don't have it / i booted with ubuntu from usb
[02:20] <crypticmofo> can i fake or make it seems like there is a cdrom installed or something ?
[02:20] <crypticmofo> it lets me excute a shell
[02:20] <pvl1> holstein: good thing i installed i3 on it. the graphics issue is seperate from what i mentioned earlier
[02:20] <holstein> crypticmofo: the desktop iso... i use unetbootin .. i format the stick, i make the stick.. then i instal.. no errors
[02:20] <holstein> crypticmofo: i have seen that issue when trying to use an alternate iso a few releases back
[02:20] <crypticmofo> oh ok
[02:21] <holstein> crypticmofo: i would try different things, friend... try unetbootin after formatting.. try different isos.. try different sticks.. try that stick on a different maching
[02:21] <holstein> machine*
[02:21] <holstein> crypticmofo: boot to the live desktop...
[02:21] <orlandorvs> hello
[02:22] <crypticmofo> holstein:  there is no live desktop at boot just says install ubuntu
[02:22] <crypticmofo> i will download a new iso
[02:22] <orlandorvs> someone heipme? can not  sync my ipod on ubuntu 13.4
[02:23] <user987654> hello
[02:23] <user987654> i am new
[02:23] <DigitalIceCream> Welcome
[02:23] <user987654> anyone can help me with grub config?
[02:23] <user987654> please I just installed ubuntu
[02:23] <user987654> I am an initiated >D
[02:24] <holstein> crypticmofo: then, you dont have the live desktop iso, and you should
[02:24] <DigitalIceCream> What do you want to do with grub?
[02:24] <holstein> !ipod
[02:24] <holstein> orlandorvs: ^
[02:24] <user987654> I had an hdd with Win7
[02:24] <DigitalIceCream> !help
[02:24] <user987654> then I disconnected it and installed Ubuntu in a second hdd
[02:24] <user987654> now I connected both
[02:24] <user987654> hdds
[02:25] <user987654> I want to boot from the grub to the system I choose... but I can't get this... I have to move the sata connector every time I want to change system
[02:26] <orlandorvs> thanks
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> user987654, Put the HD with ubuntu as first read in the bios.
[02:29] <user987654> Ok
[02:29] <user987654> I can do that
[02:29] <user987654> how can I add windows, which is in the 2nd hdd to the grub menu?
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> user987654, If it boots ubuntu open a terminal and run sudo update-grub and that should add windows to the grub menu.
[02:30] <user987654> OK
[02:30] <user987654> thanks for all
[02:30] <user987654> >D
[02:30] <user987654> i am going to test it
[02:30] <FloodBot1> user987654: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <vaskaloidis> Hey I am getting a Nagios error 127 - plugins may be missing error, anyone know how to fix it
[02:41] <msq> ..
[02:42] <bazhang> vaskaloidis, try #nagios
[02:42] <msq> ./admin
[02:46] <msq> hello
[02:46] <stirnwer> hi
[02:47] <xavious> Looking for some help removing programs, specifically that of WINE.
[02:48] <lafannga> hello people
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> xavious, try #winehq maybe
[02:49] <xavious> ;wilee-nille thanks, will do
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> xavious, You can tab complete nicks.
[02:57] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: any chance u have exp with nvidia on ubuntu
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> nope
[02:58] <pvl1> the official drivers
[02:58] <pvl1> aw
[02:58] <pvl1> well
[02:58] <pvl1> more importantly
[02:58] <pvl1> i installed ubuntu gnome on a laptop, and its getting really hot
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> !enter | pvl1 more importantly
[02:58] <pvl1> holstein: recommends a different window manager
[02:58] <chrs_> anyone have experience with xorg.conf? i'm trying to get some opengl es drivers loaded into Xorg
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:59] <pvl1> lol good one wilee-nilee
[02:59] <chrs_> i have the libraries on my filesystem, but i'm confused on how to get the X to pick them up and load them
[02:59] <pvl1> hm brb i need a reboot
[02:59] <chrs_> my guess is it has something to do with the "Modules" section of the conf file
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> details | chrs_ to the channel
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> !details | chrs_ to the channel
[03:01] <pvl1> back
[03:01] <Agamemnus> hello
[03:02] <Agamemnus> again.
[03:02] <chrs_> I have a problem loading ARM Mali OpenGL ES drivers into my Xorg server. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 armhf. When i startx, the log file doesn't say anything about loading the opengl es (egl) driver even though I have the library files in /usr/lib/ and another obvious locations.
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> chrs_, Been awhile since you posted what you were working on just refresh your info is all.
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Doh you just did cool
[03:03] <chrs_> i'm actually running "Xubuntu"
[03:03] <chrs_> if that matters
[03:03] <chrs_> it's just xfce instead of Unity/compiz
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> chrs_, I can't help but others may.
[03:03] <chrs_> wilee-nilee: no prob
[03:03] <Agamemnus> so, glibc. 2.12.
[03:03] <Agamemnus> i need to convert all my libs to use it
[03:04] <Agamemnus> should i just downgrade ubuntu?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> Agamemnus, The term downgrade meaning?
[03:04] <bazhang> Agamemnus, why would you need that version
[03:05] <reisio> generally if you find yourself asking the question "should I downgrade?", you are doing it wrong :)
[03:05] <Agamemnus> So I can run my programs on centOS
[03:05] <Agamemnus> which only runs 2.12
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> Agamemnus, This is ubuntu support only
[03:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello. Just got a dell latitude xt2, installex xubuntu 13.04 on it, looking to update my i915 module to use newer versions, as the current only uses glx 1.4, and that is simply not acceptable :P
[03:05] <Agamemnus> I know
[03:06] <bazhang> Agamemnus, #centos
[03:06] <Agamemnus> I am talking about centos
[03:06] <Agamemnus> god.......
[03:06] <Agamemnus> I am talking about ubuntu
[03:06] <bazhang> Agamemnus, wrong channel
[03:06] <Agamemnus> UBUNTU
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  intel has some website/script to help with installing the latest intel drivers.
[03:06] <bazhang> !enter | Agamemnus
[03:06] <Agamemnus> I need to use glibc 2.12
[03:07] <bazhang> Agamemnus, why
[03:07] <Agamemnus> i just told you.
[03:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: info?
[03:07] <vlad24bit> bufo: where youd get upty
[03:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: he's working on ubuntu, but wants it to work on centOS.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777: id have to hit google to find it.. i just recall seeing it mentioned once at a blog site
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  has some weird name. :) is about i recall . ve never used the tools there
[03:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> dang.
[03:08] <balorth> hello
[03:08] <Agamemnus> otherwise I'd need to create a VM in centos which runs ubuntu, and this is completely impossible
[03:08] <Agamemnus> for me, at least.
[03:08] <crypticmofo> holstein:  i goet a netinstall mini iso and its installing
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  should be a easy google search. ;) im  got other stuff going on. so im slow on the networks right now
[03:09] <balorth> can someone help me with chntpw?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/intel-release-graphical-installer-for-their-linux-drivers
[03:09] <vlad24bit> does virtual box have opengl accelleration say if I was running a vm suse on top of ubuntu
[03:09] <reisio> balorth: what about it?
[03:09] <reisio> vlad24bit: ask #vbox about it
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  01.org  ;) what a weird name for intel to use.
[03:10] <reisio> finally a graphical way to install what package managers have always done quickly and efficiently before!
[03:10] <balorth> new with ubuntu need to install it on 11.10
[03:10] <vlad24bit> reisio : thx
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> balorth, why 11.10
[03:11] <bazhang> balorth, 11.10 is out of support
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  been updated  it seems -> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[03:11] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | balorth
[03:11] <balorth> its what i had put on the flashdrive heh
[03:11] <bazhang> balorth, upgrade to a supported version
[03:12] <balorth> i will be back with a new version
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: thankyah
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  no idea how well they work. I dont use them
[03:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> meh, its a fresh install, so I don't mind experimenting. I have no stake in it yet :P
[03:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: coolest thing I've done on it as of yet is finally getting bitlbee to work with skype :P
[03:17] <balorth> so what version should i use for chntpw?
[03:18] <Ben64> balorth: you should just use a linux image that has that in it if thats all you need
[03:18] <balorth> well that would be helpfull
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> balorth, What is it you are doing, whats the end goal here?
[03:18] <balorth> i need to rest y fathers password on windows 7
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> balorth, You might ask in ##windows for a method more common.
[03:19] <ikonia> balorth: windows 7 has a password reset process, you don't do that through linux
[03:20] <balorth> well searching and this was the best thing i could find
[03:20] <ikonia> balorth: it's not
[03:20] <reisio> balorth: what's the problem?
[03:20] <ikonia> balorth: follow the windows password reset process
[03:20] <ikonia> balorth: there is no need to use linux to "reset" your dads password
[03:21] <balorth> well he doent have any reset disk
[03:21] <ikonia> balorth: he can get one from microsoft it that is needed
[03:21] <ikonia> balorth: the guys in ##windows can walk you through a password reset
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> theres those system-rescue live cd's saw on distro watch that can do it also i belove.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> belive
[03:22] <rjknight1> I can't download apt-proxy.
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:22] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yup
[03:24] <reisio> balorth: http://is.gd/acitex I've had more success with the 'old version' of the installer, fwiw
[03:33] <U237Willy> Question:  Are there other themes available for ubuntu 13.04 and unity
[03:33] <U237Willy> if so... where?
[03:34] <bazhang> U237Willy, try gnome-look.org
[03:35] <themanwithnoface> guys there's a 6 GB file called ".swl"  in my home folder.. idk what it is.. and i think it's from installing a steam demo... can i delete it?  or more info...?
[03:35] <PKKid2> Hey All, I am trying to move my Postgres data directory to a new location, but my Postgres Server will not start with the new data_directory.. All I get is  Error: could not exec /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl start -D /media/HDD/Postgres/main -l /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.1-main.log -s -o  -c config_file="/etc/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf" :
[03:36] <U237Willy> thanks bazhang -- will do
[03:36] <ikonia> PKKid2: haven't we gone through this before ?
[03:36] <ikonia> PKKid2: it's apparmor stopping it as I recall
[03:37] <PKKid2> ikonia, We (as in me and you) have not talked about this before.. This is my first time asking for help in here for about a year now. :/
[03:38] <ikonia> PKKid2: perhaps it was someone else, however the problem was apparmor
[03:38] <ikonia> PKKid2: I suspect you have the same problem
[03:39] <PKKid2> ikonia, I did a quick search on apt and I *do* have that package installed.  Thought I have never heard of this before.  Is removing it a bad idea?
[03:43] <PKKid2> ikonia, THanks for this, looking into it now.. this could be it although I dont see a postgres entry in my apparmor config dirs
[03:49] <themanwithnoface> new to ubuntu, i think after installing a steam demo i have a useless 6GB  file called ".swl"  in my home folder, or is that not useless..
[03:49] <themanwithnoface> what is it?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> themanwithnoface:  try 'file thefilename.swl' and see what it says
[03:49] <holstein> !steam
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> id just delete it. ;) but im reckless
[03:50] <themanwithnoface> ooh... it says ".swl: Vim swap file, version 7.3"   ...damn... why is it 6GB ?? go to #vim?   ;\
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> could be file is confused also.  and miss-identifying it
[03:52] <themanwithnoface> no i mean if i wrongly closed vim while editing a bunch of times, could it become 6GB ???   so i'll just back up my vimrc and delete it?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> .vimrc is not the same as a vim swap file
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> i wouldent think it would become 6gb. unless you were doing some hard core editing
[03:54] <themanwithnoface> Dr_Willis:  i was messing with my appSwitcher.js  files in cinnamon...  like a lot.. lol  to tweak the GUI...  a swap file is like a small back up right?
[03:55] <themanwithnoface> i mean my home is SMALL all there is is eclipse.. and like.. i'm new to ubuntu and all..  i want to delete but..  :<
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> i would think its like a memory swap file.. since vi also has 'backup' featires
[03:56] <themanwithnoface> yeah and my vimrc doesnt have the whole quick and efficient saving/writing/redraw stuff in it
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> can the useradd gui be removed as package?
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> and a vim swap file (from what i googled) starts with a . and ends with swp
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> so its very likely that file is just missnamed, or getting missientified
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> rename it to 'delte-me-later.whatever'   ;) and see if anything breaks
[03:58] <themanwithnoface> ok i did
[03:58] <themanwithnoface> now i'm sudo apt-get updating
[04:00] <themanwithnoface> successful update...  Dr_Willis  what else can i do to test if it was anything?  i mean.. my gui is fine.. still on smuxi IRC..  any terminal commands?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> id just delet the thing. It may be some left over steam cache
[04:02] <somsip> themanwithnoface: open vim and make sure it doesn't complain, but I've not come across problems with things like this before
[04:03] <somsip> themanwithnoface: make sure steam still works ok, but again, very unlikely to complain
[04:05] <themanwithnoface> k, deleted it. updated..  vim is running fine.. saved wrote and compiled a file in vim..  don't care about steam, too poor for gaming, and laptop too sucky for TF2...
[04:05] <somsip> themanwithnoface: sounds safe enough then
[04:06] <themanwithnoface> whoopee! nowi i can back up my home folder  thanks guys. lol
[04:06] <themanwithnoface> gonna reboot i guess that'll be the true test
[04:08] <apatters> join #linux
[04:11] <phyzix5761> hey guys, when I start typing a name of a program in the dash home box it doesn't show any programs. How do I reset it? I must have touched something.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> theres filter buttons to the right hand side
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Filter Results...
[04:13] <phyzix5761> hmmm Dr_Willis  I dont see any filter buttons
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> what ubujntu release are you using?
[04:14] <phyzix5761> 12.04
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> they have constantly updated that 'area' with each new release.  I forget how 12.04 had it.. or even if it did.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 has a Very nice set of controls now to filter out stuff. ;)
[04:14] <phyzix5761> its so weird cause I search for any program but none come up
[04:15] <phyzix5761> it was working fine a few days ago
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> see if it works for a newly made user. if so.. then its a user setting issue
[04:17] <phyzix5761> well, Dr_Willis is there a way to upgrade without having to install from disk and lose all my data?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> if a new user has same issue. its a system type setting/problem
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> all what data?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> I upgrade and dont use data.  ;)
[04:17] <phyzix5761> the files on my computer
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> thats the point of a 'upgrade' vs a 'clean install'
[04:17] <phyzix5761> oh, how do I update then?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Update is differnt then a 'upgrade'
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> what are you wanting to do exctly
[04:18] <phyzix5761> I just want to find my programs
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how a 'update, or upgrade' would   be  part of the answer.. unless you just want to try things at random to see if it suddendly starts working. ;)
[04:19] <GBGames> I recently purchased a Dell XPS 8700 with an Nvidia graphics card in it. I installed Ubuntu 12.04, and I was using it shortly after I updated it, along with installing the proprietary nvidia drivers. It seemed to be working fine, and then I noticed that it was frozen while running VirtualBox. Upon reboot, I can't get it past the splash screen, and when I googled for an answer, nothing seemed to apply that I could see, but maybe I'm missing
[04:19] <GBGames>  something.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> id test with a Newly made user. see if the issue also affects them
[04:19] <GBGames> Any help would be appreciated.
[04:19] <phyzix5761> ok I will try that Dr_Willis thanks
[04:19] <chiques> I don't open emails or URLs' that I don't recognize. Should I be concerned about "Hand of Thief"?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> if the new user works.. then clean out the problem users settings/reset unity
[04:19] <somsip> chiques: not especially
[04:20] <chiques> somsip, so why is it getting so much hype?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> chiques:  id  be amazed at http://askubuntu.com/questions/330911/hand-of-thief-malware
[04:20] <somsip> chiques: because it's the 'first' linux trojan openly for sale
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> its a slow news week? ;)
[04:20] <somsip> Dr_Willis: good link
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> GBGames, the proprietary drivers generally don't follow kernel upgrades and are advised not to use, unless that is all that works or you know how to deal with this.
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> first google hit ;)
[04:21] <somsip> Dr_Willis: heh
[04:21] <GBGames> wilee-nilee: Ok, so how do I revert back to noveau?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Hand of Thief has no good ways of infecting Linux users. Instead, the cracker "suggested using email and social engineering as the infection vector."
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> GBGames, No idea all I know is what I stated, others do though. ;)
[04:22] <chiques> Dr_Willis, somsip how does the community/developers handle this sort of deal? Would they test it and patch the vulnerabilities?
[04:22] <GBGames> wilee-nilee: Ok, thanks.
[04:22] <GBGames> B-)
[04:22] <somsip> chiques: there is no patch for user gullibility
[04:22] <chiques> lmao
[04:22] <chiques> ok
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> chiques:  seems you basically have to 'ok it to run' or somthing. :) still reading
[04:22] <somsip> chiques: blase answer - I don't know the ins and outs of how it works. Good info on the link from Dr_Willis
[04:22] <GBGames> A lot of answers online assume that I can get something loaded, but if I get to the splash screen, I can't switch to a terminal. I have to make sure I hit Esc before it gets that far.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if the guy 'selling'  the 'Hand of thief' is actually just ripping off the people that would buy malware :P
[04:23] <somsip> Dr_Willis: maybe the installer has malware installed in it. Malception...
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> somsip:  from what im reading its not actually been looked at (the code/whatever) its just someone seems to be 'selling' it and claimingit works..
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> but i cant really seem to find any 'hard' info on it
[04:25] <somsip> Dr_Willis: I shall not be too concerned then
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> nvidia
[04:25] <chiques> Dr_Willis, I would presume the Linux Developer Guru's are all over this but I haven't found any literature confirming this.
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> !nvidia
[04:25] <phyzix5761> hey Dr_Willis it works now. I removed and reinstalled unity-lens-applications and unity-lens-files
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> GBGames, YOu might look here^^^
[04:26] <GBGames> wilee-nilee: Thanks
[04:29] <chiques> Who are RSA Researchers?
[04:32] <TannedVampire> I have peppermint which is derived from lubuntu.  I was trying to get rid off peppermint logout session and use only "shutdown".  I could not get it working.  I already followed ubuntu instruction but failed to see results.
[04:32] <TannedVampire> I tried /etc/acpi/events/powerbutton.sh
[04:34] <grendal-prime> hey i was talking the other night here to this fine chap, that helped me out of a bind with a filer...and i cant rememeber what we did ...is there a log i can pick at ?
[04:35] <chiques> Dr_Willis, somsip It looks like they (Ubuntu Developers) are monitoring "Hand of Thief" . I hope they are able to patch it up soon.
[04:37] <thunder1212> i need to reinstall my ubuntu os on my laptop.. and i have installed many extra software earlier. i dont want to re download those extra PAckages again .. how can i backup the extra downloaded packages..?
[04:42] <thunder1212> ??
[04:46] <crypticmofo> hi all question
[04:46] <crypticmofo> i have one of those lenov twist laptops that use efi right / i disabled al that installed ubuntu to /dev/sda4 and i told it to put grub on it / i boot up my machine and windows till pops up / i know it means still has a boot flag
[04:46] <crypticmofo> how do i change this ?
[04:48] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:48] <ShapeShifter499> zram or zswap? which is better?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> chiques:  patch would be 'telling the users  to not run some executable/script they get in an email' from what im reading. ;)
[04:48] <crypticmofo> is there a command line to boot ubuntu that is on /dev/sda4
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> thunder1212:  your apt cache MAY have some of the packages. that will save some downloading. but i doubt if it has them all
[04:48] <crypticmofo> the options i have at ubuntu instaler are install / command-line install / advanced options
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  so you lost your grub menu? and need to replace it?  or what happaned
[04:49] <GBGames> Is there any log that I can check that explains why LightDM says it is running but nothing is happening?
[04:50] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis:  so windows is the main os right i paritioned windows to like a 100gig primary parition /dev/sda4 / once the install was done it said to install grub .. i said yes .. when i boot back up i don't see grub i see windows
[04:50] <ShapeShifter499> I'm finding I'm bumping up the 4gb limit my current laptop has a lot, I read zram and zswap could help but which one would be faster?
[04:50] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: don't cross post
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  i would follow the directions at the 'fixgrub' factoid. and use the boot-repair tool to repair grub from a live cd.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | crypticmofo
[04:52] <crypticmofo> dont' have a live cd
[04:52] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis:  i used a usb / net install
[04:52] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, as I say.... covering multiple related channels is a bad thing?
[04:52] <caf4926> crypticmofo: just make sure grub is going to sda
[04:52] <ShapeShifter499> *ask
[04:52] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: it's considered bad etiquette, yes
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:   theres cli ways to reinstall grub. but i havent done thatin ages.. boot-repair makes it trivial most of the time
[04:53] <caf4926> crypticmofo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/Ubuntu/13_04/5.png
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  if you can get a minimal system booted, with a console command line, you can chroot in and try fixing grub.
[04:53] <caf4926> crypticmofo: you can just boot the live cd and chroot the system
[04:53] <crypticmofo> can't i just put gparted back on the usb drive / boot it up and put a boot flag on /sda4 ?
[04:54] <reisio> boot flags are pretty much entirely irrelevant :)
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> why do you think the boot flag matters? Im not even sure grub pays attention to them
[04:54] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, it's not like I'm posting in every ubuntu channel I can and it's not like I'm posting the question in #debian when I clearly run ubuntu
[04:54] <crypticmofo> cf	 the live usb isn't live i only have 4 optoins / install / command-line install / advnced optoins / help
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  try alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and see if theres a console on one of them
[04:54] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: nope, it's more like you're posting in more than one channel excluding #debian (potentially)
[04:55] <crypticmofo> i have a shell
[04:55] <caf4926> crypticmofo: install again will take, what 10 mins, then just check that image I gave you
[04:55] <ShapeShifter499> meh... whatever :p
[04:56] <ShapeShifter499> reisio, so when ppl in #ubuntu don't help, what do I do then?
[04:56] <crypticmofo> it was a netinstall took like a hour or so
[04:56] <crypticmofo> slow wifi
[04:56] <reisio> ShapeShifter499: ask other people
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> i would think it would hae been better to not do a net-install over wifi/slow connections ;) but use a normal live-cd/usb method.
[04:57] <caf4926> +1 Dr_Willis
[04:57] <crypticmofo> yes
[04:58] <crypticmofo> its lenova twist it has no cdrom
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> live cd/usb  <-- :) i alwyas use bootable usb flash drives these days
[04:59] <nobody_> Hi, just looking for some advice. What would be the easiest way of building a (text only) ubuntu live cd with some extra files installed?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> i cant even find info on repairing grub with chroot/commands now on the wiki.
[05:00] <reisio> nobody_: just extra files you might want to access, or extra files in particular places in the FS?
[05:00] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I gots'm memorized
[05:00] <nobody_> reisio: specifically a script that i need to run at startup and some required packages for said script
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  luckly i dont need them enough  to do that.
[05:01] <reisio> nobody_: ah
[05:01] <caf4926> * forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275&highlight=grub+splash
[05:01] <nobody_> reisio: I'm essentially building a really nasty installer
[05:01] <reisio> Dr_Willis: guaranteed to get you laid, bro :p
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> boot-repair  live cd/iso file -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/?source=recommended   508mb
[05:01] <reisio> nobody_: :)
[05:01] <reisio> whoops, meant to be a notice
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> reisio:   dont tell my wife. ;P
[05:01] <reisio> naturally
[05:02] <crypticmofo> where is the kernel located normally on a fresh install
[05:02] <crypticmofo> i think i can fake it
[05:02] <crypticmofo> im at the installer at a boot option / can't i say root=/dev/sda4 ?
[05:02] <crypticmofo> but i need the kernel to boot
[05:02] <nobody_> I'm currently reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but i'm not sure if there's a nicer way
[05:02] <reisio> crypticmofo: what's the problem?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows     has terminal directions
[05:03] <chiques> Dr_Willis, ha, goes back to the problem being between the keyboard and chair! lol
[05:04] <rotorgeek> Anyone got a sec for a Screen (the program) question?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> alternative terminal way --->    http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[05:04] <Ben64> rotorgeek: don't ask to ask, just ask
[05:06] <rotorgeek> I'm trying to launch screen at boot on a Rasberry Pi. I'm having problems getting it to run from /etc/rc.local
[05:07] <Ben64> rotorgeek: should probably ask #raspberrypi
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> rc.local does run as root. :) just in case you dont realize that. so screen would run as root.
[05:08]  * Dr_Willis likes his Pi's
[05:08] <rotorgeek> Dr_Willis: can you run it for a particular user?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> rotorgeek:  with the use of 'su' yes
[05:09] <medo> how i can recover my delete data ?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> medo:  depends on how you deleted it and what it is
[05:09] <Ben64> !undelete | medo
[05:09] <rotorgeek> Ben64: nothing comes up when I try to join that chan
[05:10] <Ben64> rotorgeek: you have to be registered to join
[05:10] <rotorgeek> ok
[05:10] <medo> ok
[05:11] <Mace268> Is there any way to make Nautilus forget a login that I told it to save until logout?
[05:11] <holstein> Mace268: login to what?
[05:12] <Mace268> a local sftp site
[05:12] <holstein> Mace268: you should be able to just reconnect with different credentials.. try gigolo if you cant get what you need accomplished
[05:12] <holstein> !info gigolo
[05:12] <Mace268> I am logged in as root there but am getting access denied on all file actions.
[05:13] <holstein> Mace268: you shouldnd be logged in as root..
[05:13] <Mace268> I can't get it to ask for credentials again unless I log out. I can do that but wondered if there was a command.
[05:13] <Mace268> I know but it's just a local server
[05:13] <holstein> Mace268: log out, and dont save the creds
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> theres bound to be some files in the users home that are caching them i imagine.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> but  i agree with holstein .
[05:14] <holstein> shouldnt need to run as root for anything im reading there
[05:15] <Thelas> My router was recently changed; after this, I stopped being able to load web pages (DNS lookups fail and I can't load pages by IP) when on wireless.  This machine can still connect via ethernet to the router and works fine; other (Mac) machines can connect wirelessly with no problems.  I am not very familiar with networking, so don't know what other information may be of use - please say so if you need anything to be able to help.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Thelas:  you are using DHCP and not static addressing in network manager?
[05:16] <holstein> Thelas: your home router was recently changed?
[05:17] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: Yes, for both wireless and wired.
[05:17] <Thelas> holstein: Yes.
[05:17] <holstein> Thelas: why/how? and by whom? ask them to change it back..
[05:18] <Ben64> or just set a static dns server
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> can you een ping the gateway?
[05:18] <Thelas> holstein: Family member decided to upgrade bandwidth allowed and ISP required we purchase/use a new router to do so.
[05:18] <holstein> i would want to reset the router, and make sure its working properly.. set good passwords and check the dns settings.. etc
[05:19] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: Haven't tested it; is there a way to tell ping to use the wireless connection or do I have to disconnect wired to do so?
[05:19] <holstein> Thelas: i would ask who you purchased the router from for support..
[05:20] <Thelas> They say they won't support Linux users (despite the person in the store when it was purchased claiming it would work with Ubuntu machines...)
[05:20] <holstein> Thelas: then, login on the osx machine you referenced above, and ask them for support
[05:21] <Ben64> holstein: you're not really helping...
[05:21] <holstein> Ben64: its not on topic here
[05:21] <Ben64> then direct him to ##networking or something
[05:22] <Thelas> Hm..?  I don't get what you're suggesting.  The OSX machine works fine with the wireless.  I tried telephone support when this was discovered and got no help.
[05:22] <holstein> Thelas: i would reset the unit, and set good passwords.. confirm the dns settings are "good"
[05:22] <holstein> Ben64: i'll just let you take it.. thanks!
[05:22] <Thelas> I'm not sure what you mean by "good" DNS settings.
[05:23] <Ben64> Thelas: you need to see if you can ping from it
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> googles dns server ip are 8.8.8.8 and err.. i forget . ;)
[05:24] <Thelas> Ben64: Do you mean ping the router from this machine, or something else?
[05:24] <Ben64> Thelas: from whichever machine isn't working
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Thelas:  the  command 'ifconfig' should show you your ip. and then you can tell the routers ip.
[05:24] <Thelas> Okay, disconnecting wired connection to test. Will be back after.
[05:25] <Ben64> Thelas: would be easiest if you could be in here on a different device instead of connecting and disconnecting
[05:25] <StephDC> Does this channel offer some support to 13.10 Alpha?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> StephDC, #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <StephDC> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> are they even calling them alpha and beta builds any more? ;)
[05:27] <Thelas> Hm, apparently I didn't timeout while doing that.
[05:27] <Thelas> Can't ping the router (14 transmitted, 0 received, time 13103ms).
[05:28] <Thelas> Ben64: Okay, will do so.  Be back on a different machine.
[05:30] <rjknight1> hello guys, what other tools other than apt-proxy?
[05:30] <Thelas> Right, back.  If it didn't show up, the Ubuntu machine can't ping the router (when on wireless connection.)
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> if the router is not giveing the linux box an ip/dns stuff.. theres deeper issues going on
[05:30] <xmetal> hmm ... for some reason (not that i am dumping Grub2) ... this gfxboot thing has me curious (I have already downloaded the packages)
[05:31] <holstein> Thelas: is the access point named the same? and has the same password? you could try throwing the connection away in the manager and try joining again
[05:32] <Thelas> holstein: It is.  Ubuntu claims it's connected; iwconfig shows the correct Mac address for the router (matches with the router's settings page.)
[05:32] <holstein> Thelas: please open the network manager, and go to connection and delete the access point, and reconnect,a nd test
[05:33] <holstein> Thelas: maybe, right click on the network icon in the tray, and go to "wireless".. highlight the AP and "delete" it..
[05:34] <holstein> Thelas: then, select it and rejoin
[05:34] <Thelas> holstein: Just did so.  Still no result for host google.com.
[05:35] <holstein> Thelas: and the router?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> and ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[05:36] <Thelas> holstein: Are you just suggesting power-cycling the router, or something else?
[05:36] <holstein> Thelas: can you ping the router or poing 8.8.8.8?
[05:36] <Thelas> Neither.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> does 'ifconfig' show you haveing a valid ip?
[05:37] <holstein> Thelas: but other machines can? and you can get online wired with the ubuntu machine?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis>  inet addr:192.168.11.55        or similer.
[05:37] <Thelas> holstein: Yes to both.
[05:37] <holstein> Thelas: that makes no sense
[05:38] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: 192.168.0.10 (router is 192.168.0.1 and other machines are 192.168.0.*, so seems good.)
[05:38] <holstein> Thelas: try to just disable and re-enable the wifi chip
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> id be curious to test with a differnt disrto/live cd. and see if they work.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> and see if the other pcs can ping your 192.169.0.10 address
[05:39] <Myrtti> can you open and edit and save files on your system? I recently couldn't connect to Internet because harddrive was having a bad day
[05:40] <holstein> Myrtti: says connection via wired works...
[05:40] <Myrtti> mkay
[05:40] <Thelas> holstein: If you just mean the hardware switch on the laptop, just tested, doesn't help.
[05:40] <Myrtti> might be driver issue, has that Been looked at
[05:41] <Myrtti> should work?
[05:41] <Thelas> Dr_Willis: Mac times out pinging the address Ubuntu machine claims.
[05:41] <holstein> Myrtti: says it used to work with another router :/
[05:42] <holstein> Thelas: i think this is something odd.. i would make *certain* you are connecting to the proper access point. if it were me, i would try a live CD on that machine..
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> i got a new router.. but i added it to the old one. ;) so i got them daisy-chained.. heh..
[05:42] <Myrtti> this sounds familiar but alas I have to go, and I can't quite pinpoint how it is familiar
[05:43] <Thelas> holstein: I definitely am (iwconfig shows the same Mac address as the router setup page; that's enough to guarantee that, right?); sadly, don't think I have a blank CD to burn one.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> use a usb perhaps? you can also setup grub2 to boot ISO files if you got the skills.
[05:44] <holstein> Thelas: is the other router there? plug it in, connect and see if you can ping it.. connect to *any* other AP and see if its working
[05:49] <Thelas> holstein: Sadly, only way I can think of to connect to another AP right now is to get family's iPhone to make one, and said iPhone is located in a room with sleeping owner of it, so... Anything else anyone can think of to test for now? If not, I'll come back later when I can test that.
[05:50] <holstein> Thelas: no..
[05:50] <Thelas> Thanks for the help regardless.  Be well.
[05:51] <holstein> id say the chances that that wifi chip died at the same time that AP was replaced are slim...
[05:55] <floatingrain> I get the no wubildr error found when I try to boot into Ubuntu 12.04. I believe a package update may have borked my booting. I cannot find up to date instructions on wubildr not found for 12.04, only for 10.x, which are very outdated anddo not work.
[05:55] <floatingrain> I would apperciate it if anyone could help me get Ubuntu booting again.
[05:55]  * floatingrain is currently booted into live USB mode, however the commands for fixing it on 10.x does not work.
[05:56] <blazemore> floatingrain: Are you using Wubi?
[05:56] <floatingrain> blazemore, Apparently so.
[06:00] <floatingrain> blazemore, Wait. I do not boot Ubuntu THROUGH windows
[06:01] <floatingrain> When I start up the computer I'm at window's bootloader, I pick Ubuntu. Is that wubi? I do have wubi files on my windows pc, and I'm not sure if I'm using wubi or not.
[06:01] <floatingrain> I see /host/ on Ubuntu
[06:01] <reisio> floatingrain: inconclusive, but could be
[06:01] <floatingrain> reisio, how can I tell if I'm uing wubi or not, and how can I boot back into ubuntu?
[06:02] <babinlonston> Installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and now i want to remove the left side tool bar and i want to keep my computer and other icons in desktop how can i do it
[06:02] <reisio> floatingrain: how many disks have you got? You can't boot into Ubuntu now?
[06:02] <floatingrain> reisio, I only have one HDD. I can't boot into ubuntu - I get the wubildr error.
[06:02] <reisio> ah
[06:02] <reisio> well that sounds like wubi to me :p
[06:03] <floatingrain> I power up my computer, it asks me if I want to boot into Windows or Ubuntu.
[06:03] <floatingrain> I press ubuntu, I see two lines quickly flash by about unable to find wubildr, and then I'm back to the emergency grub recovery prompt.
[06:03] <reisio> what'd you do to break it? :)
[06:03] <floatingrain> reisio, I'm pretty sure the package manager broke it. I did nothing in particular. I was on windows for a few days before coming back.
[06:03] <reisio> mmm, ewll
[06:03] <reisio> well, even
[06:04] <reisio> I s'pose this is why people don't like wubi
[06:04] <floatingrain> I don't even know I have wubi.. What's the difference?
[06:04] <floatingrain> What's the difference between wubi and dual booting? because it looks exactly like a dual boot.
[06:04] <reisio> with wubi, your Ubuntu is actually installed into a _file_ inside your Windows filesystem
[06:04] <reisio> when you boot it, it pretends the file is a disk
[06:04] <floatingrain> where is that file?
[06:04] <reisio> it's somewhere :)
[06:04] <reisio> I'd check program files first, then c:\
[06:04] <floatingrain> because the disks I see are a max of 256MB
[06:05] <reisio> it will probably have an obvious name
[06:05] <floatingrain> and that's obviously not enough.
[06:05] <reisio> http://windirstat.info/
[06:05] <floatingrain> reisio, C:/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ? that's 0 bytes
[06:05] <reisio> according to what, Windows?
[06:06] <floatingrain> according to ubuntu. I'm in a liveUSB
[06:06] <floatingrain> swap.disk is 268.4 MB
[06:06] <reisio> ah
[06:06] <floatingrain> crap dont tell me i lost my files
[06:06] <reisio> floatingrain: do you recall how much space was used on your Ubuntu system, roughly?
[06:07] <floatingrain> reisio, I believe it's /dev/sda6
[06:07] <reisio> what is? :)
[06:07] <floatingrain> That's 97 GB
[06:07] <floatingrain> And I think my ubuntu instnce was along that. But it's not recongized by Windows or GParted.
[06:07] <floatingrain> The file system is lvm2, is that expected?
[06:08] <reisio> floatingrain: this looks fancy and promising :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[06:08] <floatingrain> reisio, tried that, does not work on 12.04
[06:08] <reisio> I s'pose it's possible you installed via wubi but have Ubuntu on a dedicated partition
[06:08] <floatingrain> mount commands give me an error. I think I installed via wubi but I'm pretty sure it's on a dedi partition
[06:08] <reisio> if that's the case, it'd probably be best to remove the wubi part and just keep the data
[06:08] <floatingrain> Right. But I need to boot first, I need my data there.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> i didebnt think wubi could install to a dedicated partion.
[06:09] <reisio> it's pretty unlikely the data has been harmed
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> it could access a linux partion i guess.
[06:09] <floatingrain> Well I have a /dev/sda6 with expected sizes
[06:09] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I think the win32 executable is all called "wubi"
[06:09] <floatingrain> "Unknown filesystem type: 'LVM2_member'"
[06:09] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yeah? and one option is to do a dedicated install
[06:09] <floatingrain> I can't mount /dev/sda6 :(
[06:09] <reisio> floatingrain: how'd you try to mount it?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> wubi can do a dedicated install? never noticed that.  but i dont recall wubi ever doing lvm stuff either. ;)
[06:09] <floatingrain> sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/lnx
[06:10] <reisio> Dr_Willis: heh, dunno
[06:10] <floatingrain> OK, so /dev/sda1 is my windows boot directly. /dev/sda2 is Windows's C. /dev/sda3 is my windows/lenovo recovery. /dev/sda4 is extended, /dev/sda5 is ext4 and is 500MB. /dev/sda6 is lvm2, 97GB, lvm flags
[06:10] <floatingrain> I am rpetty sure /dev/sda4 is Ubuntu and the /dev/sda5 is the Ubuntu boot drive, with /dev/sda6 my data. What does lvm flags mean?
[06:10] <reisio> floatingrain: what does 'pvs' say?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> sounds like sda5 may be / and sda6 may be /home/
[06:11] <floatingrain> The program pvs is not currently installed. installing
[06:11] <reisio> floatingrain: sudo pvs?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !find pvs
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !info ipvsadm
[06:11] <floatingrain> It tells me to install lvm2
[06:11] <reisio> yeah lvm2
[06:11] <reisio> ubottu: no cookies for you
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !info lvm2
[06:11] <reisio> not much chance of that
[06:12] <floatingrain> reisio, while installing: "cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab"
[06:12] <floatingrain> oh it's still setting up, just slow.
[06:13] <reisio> floatingrain: warnings are like hall monitors
[06:13] <reisio> just ignore them :p
[06:13] <poee> Hi, I have a 1tb hard disk that is fully ext4 and ubuntu is installed on that. I want to partition it so I can install windows while keeping ubuntu intact. how can I do that?
[06:13] <reisio> poee: you'd need to resize the partition/s to make space for a couple windows partitions
[06:13] <floatingrain> poee, resize it and then make a new partition
[06:13] <floatingrain> well shrink it
[06:13] <reisio> poee: resizing isn't 100% safe, it's more like 75% safe, so back up anything you care about first
[06:13] <crypticmofo> so
[06:14] <reisio> poee: can use gparted from your live OS
[06:14] <reisio> crypticmofo: yeah?
[06:14] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis:  i booted to a live cd and my ubuntu is actually on /dev/sda6
[06:14] <crypticmofo> wierd
[06:14] <reisio> crypticmofo: pretty weird
[06:14] <poee> reisio, the computer is under warranty. I can backup the data.
[06:14] <reisio> poee: not sure what one has to do with the other, but good? :)
[06:15] <crypticmofo> ok
[06:15] <crypticmofo> so if my ubuntu install is on /dev/sda6
[06:15] <poee> reisio, you said resizing wasn't safe :P
[06:15] <crypticmofo> do i do sudo grub root (hd0,6) ?
[06:15] <floatingrain> reisio, ok, got pvs
[06:15] <floatingrain> /dev/sda6 vg_somebody lvm2 a- 97.16g 0% free
[06:15] <reisio> poee: it's not 100% safe, for your data
[06:15] <reisio> poee: your hardware should be 100% safe :)
[06:15] <floatingrain> it says 0% free! is it corrupted ??
[06:16] <reisio> floatingrain: would probably say 'corrupted' if it could detect that, don't you think? :p
[06:16] <poee> reisio, ah. okay :). Can I use gparted from my native ubuntu, or do I have to use gparted from a Live CD?
[06:16] <reisio> floatingrain: lvdisplay /dev/vg_somebody
[06:16] <reisio> poee: live
[06:17] <floatingrain> reisio, but it says it's 0% free.. what do I look for it in there?
[06:17] <floatingrain> I see 3 logical volumes
[06:17] <poee> reisio, okay, got it, thanks :)
[06:17] <reisio> poee: also chances are Windows will prefer space at the beginning of the disk, not the end
[06:17] <floatingrain> /dev/vg_somebody/lv_swap /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home /dev/vg_somebody/lv_root
[06:17] <floatingrain> this is my ubuntu disk!
[06:17] <reisio> poee: and it might want primary partitions (GNU/Linux doesn't care about primary or not)
[06:17] <floatingrain> All 3 are NOT available.
[06:17] <reisio> floatingrain: you should be able to mount either lv_home or lv_root
[06:18] <floatingrain> reisio, how do I only mount one of them?
[06:18] <reisio> mount /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home /mnt/point, etc.
[06:18] <poee> reisio, I don't want this format to affect my primary linux installation
[06:18] <reisio> poee: naturally
[06:18] <reisio> poee: which version of Windows are you installing?
[06:19] <floatingrain> reisio, "special device /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home does not xist"
[06:19] <poee> reisio, Windows 8 64 bit, provided by manufacturer(Dell)
[06:19] <reisio> poee: ah, do you recall how many partitions it required?
[06:19] <Flannel> floatingrain: look in /dev/mapper/*
[06:19] <poee> reisio, No. When I got the computer, I pretty much wiped it clean and installed ubuntu
[06:19] <rednet> who is the german channel?
[06:20] <reisio> rednet: /msg alis list *ubunt*de
[06:20] <floatingrain> channel flood?
[06:21] <floatingrain> But anyway: so my situtation is I have Ubuntu on it's own partition, but when I boot I get an error about wubildr
[06:21] <reisio> poee: well I don't remember how many partitions Windows uses anymore, but it shouldn't be more than 3, so you shouldn't have to worry about primary vs not
[06:21] <reisio> poee: probably :)
[06:21] <reisio> poee: #windows would know for sure
[06:21] <floatingrain> All I need to sabotage is my SSH privat ekeys
[06:21] <floatingrain> I *need* the ssh private keys :/
[06:22] <reisio> floatingrain: so are they not in /dev/mapper ?
[06:22] <floatingrain> reisio, /dev/mapper just has control which I don't know to do what with
[06:22] <floatingrain> it just has a file control but it's not a file and it's not a directory ??
[06:22] <poee> reisio, if worse comes to worse, I can have dell come in and reinstall it for me :D
[06:22] <Flannel> floatingrain: Oh, this is a liveCD type thing?
[06:22] <floatingrain> Yeah, I'm on a liveUSB to recover my Ubuntu installation
[06:23] <Flannel> floatingrain: You'll need to install lvm tools and bring up your logical volumes semi-manually.  It's not difficult.  Let me find you a link.
[06:23] <floatingrain> Flannel, but I think the difficult part would be getting the boot loader working ?
[06:23] <Flannel> floatingrain: Not if you're just reading the drives as data.
[06:23] <Flannel> floatingrain: You're installing lvm "on" the LiveCD
[06:24] <reisio> floatingrain: try this: lvchange -a y /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home
[06:24] <reisio> floatingrain: and then this again: mount /dev/vg_somebody/lv_home /mnt/point
[06:24] <floatingrain> YES
[06:24] <floatingrain> I MOUNTED
[06:24] <reisio> gj
[06:24] <reisio> isn't lvm fun? :p
[06:25] <floatingrain> It seems to be loading but I only see one directly, lost+found
[06:25] <floatingrain> What is that ?
[06:25] <floatingrain> Only 1 directory :(
[06:25] <reisio> mmm, either it's not done loading, or your data is in there
[06:25] <reisio> could be either
[06:25] <floatingrain> and I get permission denied when I try to look in it
[06:25] <floatingrain> reisio, ...
[06:26] <form4> does ubuntu touch run on android devices?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> supposed to when its done i belive. ;)
[06:26] <reisio> form4: I believe they keep a list in the /topic of -touch
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !touch
[06:26] <reisio> but if you replace the OS, it's not going to be an Android device anymore :p
[06:27] <form4> yeah
[06:27] <reisio> floatingrain: umount it
[06:27] <floatingrain> OMG
[06:27] <floatingrain> I MOUNTED lv_root
[06:27] <floatingrain> AND MY FILES ARE THERE (I think)
[06:27] <reisio> heheh okay
[06:27] <reisio> some lvm magic
[06:27] <floatingrain> Where do I see my user directory?
[06:27] <reisio> floatingrain: /home/
[06:28] <floatingrain> That's empty but again I just mounted and I'm not a user there
[06:28] <floatingrain> /usr/ has too many folders
[06:28] <reisio> /usr/ is something else
[06:28] <reisio> try umount'ing lv_home
[06:28] <floatingrain> oh, so lv_root doesn't have my user directory ?
[06:28] <reisio> probably not
[06:28] <reisio> lv_home probably has
[06:28] <floatingrain> :/ and lv_home is empty
[06:28] <floatingrain> it only has lost+found
[06:28] <reisio> it's probably not empty :)
[06:28] <reisio> how big is lost+found
[06:28] <floatingrain> but I don't see anything.
[06:29] <floatingrain> and it has finished loading. I can't access it, says permission denied.
[06:29] <reisio> umount them both and run vgscan --mknodes
[06:30] <floatingrain> can't umount, says it is mounted multiple times for home and says it's mounted over for root
[06:32] <floatingrain> ok tried it again and umounted
[06:32] <floatingrain> Found volume group "vg_somebody" using metadata type lvm2
[06:33] <floatingrain> hi BTCOxygen
[06:34] <reisio> floatingrain: umount :)
[06:36] <floatingrain> reisio, I umounted, here's what I get with vgscan
[06:36] <floatingrain> Found volume group "vg_somebody" using metadata type lvm2
[06:38] <freze> if I run a transmission client and in the preferences select enable web client, does that start a seperate daemon or connect to a preexisting running daemon? From what I have done it looks like it does not since when I enabled the client it did not connect to the running daemon on the pc but started a web client that ran within the tranmission-gt process
[06:39]  * floatingrain just wishes to be able to boot :(
[06:39] <floatingrain> How do I uninstall Wubi and tell ubuntu, hey, here's the partition, go mount yourself..
[06:39] <floatingrain> or heck, how can I nab my ssh private keys?
[06:39] <floatingrain> and source code for my projects
[06:40] <reisio> floatingrain: was it encrypted?
[06:41] <floatingrain> nope
[06:41] <karab44> how to send video stream from ubuntu to TV wirelessly?
[06:41] <karab44> video/audio actually
[06:41] <reisio> karab44: with a wireless router or bluetooth emitter
[06:41] <karab44> You mean simple router?
[06:41] <karab44> how to configure that?
[06:42] <reisio> floatingrain: lsmod | grep dm
[06:42] <reisio> karab44: read the manual :)
[06:42] <karab44> I mean Remote desktop
[06:42] <karab44> reisio: you're telling me about DLNA server
[06:42] <floatingrain> reisio, What am I looking at?
[06:42] <reisio> your TV probably hasn't the software for that on its own, so you'd probably need to connect it to a computer
[06:43] <reisio> floatingrain: stuff, what's it say?
[06:43] <floatingrain> reisio, I got like 12 lines.
[06:43] <karab44> reisio: you think that 56inch Bravia 2012 is not well equipped?
[06:43] <reisio> floatingrain: dm-mod?
[06:44] <reisio> karab44: I think size, brand, and year aren't factors
[06:44] <karab44> So what do I need?
[06:44] <maxb> floatingrain: So, if you're in Ubuntu, and you've got LVM recognizing your setup, and you've mounted it, can't you just copy anything you want elsewhere?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  i can do it with my Samsung TV's via upnp. or the various smart tv features
[06:44] <floatingrain> reisio, no, I see dm_crypt, a bunch of codecs, dm_multipaath, dm_mirror, dm_raid45, dm_log, dm_region_hash
[06:44] <reisio> Dr_Willis: mmm, samsung
[06:44] <reisio> floatingrain: can you sudo modprobe dm-mod?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  you have to see wht 'smart' features your tv has. if not.. get a roku, or a raspberry pi. or one of those chromecast dongles. (if you can find one)
[06:45] <floatingrain> reisio, empty output
[06:45] <reisio> floatingrain: normal
[06:45] <karab44> Dr_Willis: So you got destkop image on your TV? or just.... DLNA streamserver?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  yes to both.. I can hook the pc up to the tv. or i can use it as a dlna 'viewer' it also has the Plex channel so i can get to my UPNP servers from the tv.
[06:46] <floatingrain> reisio, ok, so how do I get it botting. gribbIe?
[06:46] <reisio> floatingrain: vgscan --mknodes; vgchange -a y
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> and it can play videos directly from the usb ports
[06:46] <reisio> floatingrain: then mount lv_root, then mount lv_home to where you mount root/home
[06:46] <karab44> I want to let's say make HDMI connection wirelessly without any specific designed routers for $200 on amazon
[06:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo! interesting situation, I have 2 pc's running xubuntu, the desktop runs 12.04, the notebook 13.04. The desktop has a pretty much steady connection to wireless internet, and I wish to share that to the desktop over bluetooth. They are both paired, but I'm having issue getting the internet to flow.
[06:46] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I got one of'm :) but my friend just got a newer one and his is fancier still
[06:46]  * reisio stabs :p
[06:47] <reisio> ntzrmtthihu777: you used desktop twice there
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> i cant even imagine whats fancier then what i got now.. Unless they put a full android os in the thing. :)
[06:47] <reisio> it's pathetic what the competition has
[06:47] <reisio> I think the LG TV next to the Samsung could play...
[06:47] <reisio> DivX in an AVI
[06:47] <reisio> the end
[06:48] <reisio> those Samsungs play anything, and let you watch youtube :p
[06:48] <floatingrain> reisio, done, but home only contains lost+found
[06:48] <crazyhorse> i was very impressed with ubuntu's built in file sharing
[06:48] <reisio> and retailers don't know how to sell them
[06:48] <crazyhorse> i remember doing samba in 2001 and it was a pain in the ass.. this just worked first time :D
[06:48] <reisio> they say the tv has a "computer port" (which really means: usb, and can play anything)
[06:48] <reisio> floatingrain: k, look in there
[06:49] <floatingrain> reisio, I can't, permission denied
[06:49] <dexterity> I have a 8-core (4 g ram) machine running apache2 serving multiple websites, and load often peaks above 15.00, how to remedy this?
[06:49] <floatingrain> dexterity, optimize your scripts
[06:50] <somsip> dexterity: what does iowait look like?
[06:50] <crazyhorse> dexterity: why's it so crazy.. cpu, memory or disk io?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  it dosent work for a lot of people. ;)
[06:50] <crazyhorse> Dr_Willis: did for me.. but i was connecting from a mac so
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  you could use nfs,or sshfs for that also i belive.
[06:51] <dexterity> somsip, crazyhorse: I'm not sure what's the root cause. How can I find out?
[06:51] <karab44> Dr_Willis: so You can not use TV as PC Screen because this is what I am talking about.
[06:51] <floatingrain> reisio, lost+found is empty
[06:52] <reisio> dexterity: nginx
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  i plug my pc into the hdmi port.. and am using it right now as a PC monitor
[06:52] <karab44> no no no, wirelessly
[06:52] <helmut_> hi
[06:52] <reisio> floatingrain: beyond my knowledge I'm afraid
[06:52] <reisio> helmut_: hi
[06:52] <floatingrain> reisio, isn't  there a chkdsk I can run? :(
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  intel has a feature for that but its not common.
[06:52] <reisio> floatingrain: yeah
[06:52] <dexterity> reisio: I would like to find out exactly what is wrong before changing webserver
[06:52] <reisio> floatingrain: umount, fsck
[06:52] <somsip> dexterity: look at what is causing the load. Could be CPU bound (look for CPU > 100%) or could be disk-bound (look for %wa). Other indicators are in top too. Is swap being used (shudder)?
[06:52] <karab44> Dr_Willis: what feature, pls tell me more...
[06:53] <reisio> dexterity: apache is old, that's part of what's wrong
[06:53] <somsip> dexterity: is it running mySQL too?
[06:53] <floatingrain> reisio, YES
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  no idea what intel calls it.. some sort of wireless hdmi feature on some of the their chipstes. can transmit to a monitor. or tv if it has the right hardware. theres also some sort of reciever box you can get for tvs
[06:53] <floatingrain> says it's clean
[06:53] <floatingrain> 11/2596864 files
[06:54] <floatingrain> Do I seriously have 2596k files??
[06:54] <reisio> http://snaprails.tumblr.com/post/325624962/linux-performance-benchmark-apache-nginx
[06:54] <reisio> floatingrain: are they there? :p
[06:54] <karab44> receiver boxes are out of the game but I'll check up this intel's HDMI thing. Thanks bro
[06:54] <dexterity> somsip: htop shows that swap is being used, but "free -m" shows that there's free memory (?)
[06:54] <floatingrain> reisio, I can't see the files through ls or natulius
[06:55] <crazyhorse> so anychance we will be able to run android apps in ubuntu?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  i think ive seen some android vms mentioned befor on the blog sites.
[06:55] <somsip> dexterity: I'd suggest that's the first thing to investigate as it will be a performance killer. But it can be the thin end of the wedge. Server tweaking is an ongoing process that goes on...and on...and on. Solving initial problems is usually not *too* onerous though
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> theres also the android x86 that works in vbox
[06:56] <crazyhorse> Dr_Willis: nice.. ok..  i'll check it out
[06:56] <crazyhorse> there's a ton of apps i can't run because they haven't made linux versions
[06:56] <crazyhorse> but there are android versions
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  thers that bluesstack thing for windows. i THINK they were working on a linux version at one time
[06:57]  * floatingrain blames ubuntu package manager for making me accidently install some upgrades
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> darn them for pushing out security updates! ;)
[06:57] <reisio> crazyhorse: there's a free android emulator you can run on GNU/Linux
[06:57] <floatingrain> this is the second time updates broke somethin
[06:58] <crazyhorse> reisio: sweet.. does it work?
[06:58] <floatingrain> first time it broke my production server, couldn't boot
[06:58] <floatingrain> now it breaks my laptop ..
[06:58] <karab44> Dr_Willis: Intel calls it WiDi but I think solution still could be resolved by software.
[06:58] <reisio> crazyhorse: course
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  if your tv supported vnc, :) yes.. or somthing similer
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  but sending full HD video over  that might be a bit hard
[06:58] <karab44> That's the point!
[06:59] <crazyhorse> reisio: is that different from android-x86?
[06:59] <floatingrain> Is there anything I can do in GNU-GRUB?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> you can do lots of things in grub.. if you got the grub skills.
[07:00] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis :/
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> but im not clear on what your whole problem is/was/  ;) been watching tv.
[07:00] <reisio> crazyhorse: don't know what android-x86 is, but I'm assuming it is, as the ordinary arch for android devices is arm
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Android-86 is for Normal Intel/windows type hardware. ;)    works ok on my netbook.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> but not all android arm  progrmas work on it from whta i recall.
[07:01] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I get the wubildr loader not found error when I boot suddendly, after updating some packages. I have ubuntu in /dev/sda6, divided into 3 logical volumes (swap, root, home). home is empty except for lost+found but fsck reports 2 million + files (?)
[07:01] <floatingrain> all I want is to boot back into Ubuntu.
[07:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> no one, then?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  i really have to wonder how you had wubi setup extra partions.. and a LVM.. i dident even think wubi could do that.
[07:01] <xmetal> i have a working grub 2 now .. .been (just to give it a try) reading up on gfxboot
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  check where your /etc/fstab says home should be.. it could be on another partition. (that would be very weird also)
[07:02] <reisio> most android apps are just frontends to websites or repackagings of existing apps :p
[07:02] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I dunno! Is ther eany way I can make it skip wubi?
[07:02] <floatingrain> I'm booting through a liveUSB too btw
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:   were YOU the one that installed this system? or someone else?
[07:02] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, yes, I installed it, like a year ago.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  you booted a cd/usb and installed that way?  or ran some binary from inside windows?
[07:03] <rjknight1> apt-proxy gone. :(
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  beacuse wubi  dosent do the kind of setup you have.. of course neiother does a normal install.
[07:03] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I have the wubi binary there. I think what I did was install through a liveusb through. Either way in C:/ubuntu/disks/root.dsk it's empty
[07:03] <floatingrain> Maybe the updates ASSUMED I'm using wubi just cause I have wubi binaries
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  but you Have a C:/ubuntu/disks/ ?
[07:03] <floatingrain> (on windows)
[07:03] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, Yes.
[07:03] <floatingrain> But /dev/sda6 is ubuntu
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> the update manager wouldent see you had a wubi.exe on your c:/ as far as i know.
[07:04] <rjknight1> unable to locate package apt-proxy
[07:04] <floatingrain> well then I'm not sure what exactly broke it except I got a wubildr not found error.
[07:04] <floatingrain> and can't boot.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> wubi dosent use grub either  well  it chain loads it from windows i think.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  somthing on windows deleted your wubi files sounds like.
[07:04] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, see, this is where it gets confusing. Dr_Wills: no
[07:05] <floatingrain> /dev/sda6 is ubuntu
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> You said you had no wubi files.. but had the wubi directory.. and its booting and saying it cant find the wubildr. that would be the wubi bootloader i would think
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> unless of course you have had 2 differnt installs on the system at the same time
[07:06] <floatingrain> I have placed wubildr on all my partitions.
[07:06] <floatingrain> All my partitions have wubildr copied there, and it still says not found.
[07:06] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Can you boot into windows?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> and the windows loader  loads that stuff i belive. so its looking in the wrong place. or been told some where else to look. (im guessing)
[07:07] <floatingrain> Wait a sec
[07:07] <floatingrain> I also have fedora
[07:07] <floatingrain> On my system.
[07:07] <BTCOxygen> hmmm
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Fedora DOES use lvm by default as far as i recall.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> wubi and ubuntu does not (that ive seen)
[07:07] <floatingrain> OK that is fedora, screw that
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> so it sounds like your wubi install was on the windows c:/ and got erased
[07:08] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, I am pretty sure random files don't get erased.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> or windows fscked it and moved it..
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: another case of #wubi-fail
[07:08] <nikitha> hi
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  with disk checking, ive seen files from all over a windows drive get erased
[07:08] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: It does on windows.
[07:09] <nikitha> i used ubuntu 13.04 and linuxmint 15
[07:09] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: When you have any anti-virus tools installed.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> scan the windows hd looking for very large files. several GB in size.. that May be your wubi save/hd image file.
[07:09] <nikitha> any linuxmint 15 users here ?
[07:09] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, No anti virus.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> if you find the file - you can mountit via the Loop feature of mount
[07:09] <floatingrain> Windows find largest files
[07:09] <BTCOxygen> hmmm
[07:09] <floatingrain> oops not google
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> nikitha:  mint has its own support channels.. not here.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> !mint > nikitha
[07:09] <nikitha> i had installed linuxmint 15 , wine ,  few of my apps still are with windows such as oracle etc,  can install windows based oracle on wine of linuxmint ?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !wine > nikitha
[07:10] <xmetal> !miunt
[07:10] <xmetal> oops
[07:10] <xmetal> !mint
[07:11] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Do you have Microsoft Security Essentials ?
[07:11] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, but why would I get wubildr not found if it was my root.disk missing
[07:11] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, No, no anti virus.
[07:11] <BTCOxygen> Which version of windows do you have?
[07:11] <floatingrain> Win7
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> floatingrain:  perhaps wubildr is suposed to get read from that root.disk
[07:11] <xmetal> hmm back to researching gfxboot ... most of the tutorials are based on grub 1 to Gfxboot ... i have grub 2
[07:12] <BTCOxygen> IIRC, Some Microsoft anti-virus tool comes pre-Installed on Win7
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> windows -> wubi -> grabs the kernel and stuff from the root.disk
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  theres some grub2 variant that has all sorts of theme features. but i forget its name
[07:12] <nikitha> my major priority now is to  migration to linux and loss dependence of ms windows.... so i see linux and its dependent as one, i knew there are channels for differents tools , but i see linux as one.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  also grub2 has some features. but i think they are normally disabled by default
[07:13] <floatingrain> ok root.disk is empty I'll have to run chkdsk
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> nikitha:  most distros  have their own support channels. theres the general #linux channel also
[07:13] <kadd> hey folks, quick question: Ubuntu on phone is free of charge or required License!!
[07:13] <xeonix> Hello penguins :]
[07:14] <nikitha> thanks dr willis, i mean linux means any linux distros
[07:14] <floatingrain> So can someone tell me why Windows sometimes erases entire files?
[07:14] <xmetal> true ..i feel that Mint and Ubuntu are "close enough" that many questions could be answered in either channel, though they (each distro) have their own channel
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> hard disk/file system curruption - disk gets scanned.. bad files get moved/deleted/moved to lost+foundor whever
[07:14] <xmetal> cause it stinks?
[07:14] <Tm_T> nikitha: xmetal: to reiterate, this is Ubuntu support channel, Mint is not Ubuntu so it cannot be supported here
[07:14]  * xmetal shrugs
[07:14] <xmetal> :)
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> windows gives them those nice names.. like  found.0001 found.00003
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Ive had ENTIRE hard drives befome all 'found.####' files
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> i think thats how they get named.. ;)
[07:15] <xmetal> thats exactly what i just said
[07:15] <Tm_T> kadd: Ubuntu is free ofcourse
[07:15] <xmetal> sheesh
[07:15] <nikitha> willis, what ever linux distros, major thing for me to shift to linux and loss my dependency on ms windows .... in gerenal i use windows 7, ms office, oracle 11g, d2k (forms and reports). for oracle and its products esp. for d2k i dependent on ms windows ...
[07:16] <xmetal> love those "untitled" files too
[07:16] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: It happens when you run chkdisk.
[07:16] <xmetal> lol
[07:16] <BTCOxygen> Or have an Anti-virus installed.
[07:16] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, i never ran chkdsk through I'm running it now
[07:16] <floatingrain> And I'm sure an anti virus will delete rather than empty a file
[07:16] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Maybe the anti-virus cleaned the file for you.
[07:17] <nikitha> i could get linux based oracle 11g it is 2gb of download and i do have setups of oracle 11g based of mswindows, so i still dependent of windows.
[07:17] <BTCOxygen> Like remove the virus content from a file.
[07:17] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, antiviruses don't do that, they move.
[07:17] <floatingrain> 1 undeinfedex files scanned!
[07:17] <floatingrain> "Recovering orphaned file test into directory file 570"
[07:18] <ocooel> Where can I paste a picture for some help..?
[07:18] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Do you boot into Windows frequently ?
[07:19] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, Very rarely.
[07:19] <BTCOxygen> hmm
[07:19] <floatingrain> Through it broke after booting into windows :/
[07:19] <BTCOxygen> ahh
[07:19] <floatingrain> But then agani I don't restart it often
[07:19] <floatingrain> I usually suspend it, so I still suspect it may be an update :/
[07:19] <BTCOxygen> Then windows did something to the files.
[07:20] <floatingrain> hm :( - my private keys..
[07:20]  * floatingrain will look into file recovery programs
[07:20] <BTCOxygen> That might help.
[07:21] <babinlonston> ubuntu 12.04 lTS not getting Shutdown .. If im Shutting Down it , its Coming to Logon Screen  Each and every time same issue , and if i used to shutdown it using terminal init 0 its Shuting Down
[07:21] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: Why don't you remove windows and install Ubutnu without Wubi ?
[07:21] <floatingrain> BTCOxygen, because believe it or not smoetimes I need to use windows.
[07:22] <xmetal> uh
[07:22] <ocooel> Keep getting this error when reloading synaptic. Can anybody help? Version Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6001965/
[07:22] <xmetal> dualboot
[07:22] <xmetal> :|
[07:22] <xmetal> what is wubi anyway ... installing linux through windows?
[07:23] <floatingrain> xmetal, i do dual boot!
[07:23] <floatingrain> fedora :(
[07:23] <xmetal> (i know a simple websearch would answer my question)
[07:23] <floatingrain> xmetal, apparently it installs linux as usual but as a file in your windows directory
[07:23] <BTCOxygen> floatingrain: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-bare-metal.htm
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> wubi is best avoided like the black plague.
[07:23] <floatingrain> Dr_Willis, yeah. i won't use it when I upgrade
[07:23] <floatingrain> but I don't plan on upgrading till 12.04 LTS support wears off.
[07:24] <xmetal> ok now i am confused
[07:24] <xmetal> lol
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> wubi installs ubuntu inside a file on your c:/ that windows then can boot to get to a ubuntu setup
[07:24] <dexterity> Do anyone know a good guide for putting nginx in front of an existing apache 2 configuration?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> its VERY fragile.
[07:24] <xmetal> is that "Lindows" still around?... i remember hearing about that on Techtv and how "just using "real linux" is better" YEARS AGO
[07:25] <floatingrain> again: I do not boot into windows. I boot into Ubuntu
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  not been  seen for ages by me
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  they had to rename it to linspire
[07:25] <xmetal> a simple dual boot would be easier
[07:25] <xmetal> then windows with linux on the C:\ parititon
[07:25] <xmetal> (if you ask mne)
[07:25] <xmetal> -n
[07:28] <ltsampros> Hello
[07:28] <floatingrain> Hi Dr ltsampros!
[07:28] <ltsampros> I'm on raring, have installed ia32-libs etc and I'm trying a custom built wine
[07:28] <ltsampros> however I need to install this python-gst0.10:i386
[07:29] <ltsampros> but apt says it's broken or that some the required packages have not been created
[07:29] <ltsampros> is there a way to solve this?
[07:31] <OerHeks> !find python-gst0.10
[07:31] <OerHeks> ltsampros, in python-gst0.10-dev i guess
[07:32] <ltsampros> you missed the i386 I guess,
[07:32] <klein2>  /set weechat.look.item_buffer_filter "⚑"
[07:33] <ltsampros> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/jbpDDW8g
[07:34] <kadd> !find gnome3
[07:34] <kadd> !find kmess
[07:34] <ltsampros> !find python-gst0.10:i386
[07:35] <auronandace> !msgthebot
[07:35] <OerHeks> ltsampros, should be there > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/i386/python-gst0.10  so how did you build wine?
[07:36] <ltsampros> OerHeks: default build instructions under a i386 chroot on a raring machine
[07:36] <vas> hi
[07:37] <reisio> vas: hiyo
[07:37] <Moony22> Does do-release-upgrade reinstall unity?
[07:38] <ltsampros> OerHeks: something is wrong with the dependencies
[07:38] <vas> hey how to install software from cd or flashdrive
[07:39] <ocooel> Hi. Synaptic keeps reloading and throwing up the same message. Can someone take a look and help me if there's a fix..? http://paste.opensuse.org/70691049
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, You mean does  distro upgrade reinstall unity?
[07:40] <Moony22> Yes it
[07:40] <Moony22> The command do-release-upgrade
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> vas:  what software?
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Are you trying to fix a broken setup, a upgrade installs the version in that release.
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> if broken though that is not a good option.
[07:41] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee thank you
[07:41] <Moony22> Wait unity is broken but I want to upgrade anyway
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Moony22:  so? :)  depends on how its broken
[07:41] <Tonysuprem> yo
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, I would fix your setup first you may have problems upgrades are from working systems.
[07:42] <vas> i got some educational software in a cd, since i m new to linux or ubuntu...i donno how to install it
[07:42] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee I think it is because I installed unity from the experimental certified ppa
[07:42] <reisio> vas: what's it called?
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> !ppapurge | moondog
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> vas:  you are refering to some windows software?
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Sorry that was for you
[07:43] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee, I have used ppa purge but accidently cancelled it when it asked me if I wanted to continue
[07:43] <Moony22> But now the ppa is gone although the unity from the ppa is still here
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, really well if it were me I would not rely on a upgrade to fix all this, but thats me, are you backed up?
[07:44] <minimec> ocooel: 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.*' will probably do. Then load the sources again... 'sudo apt-get update' ...
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> I never upgrade anyway, but fresh install
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> or try removeing all of unity and reinstalling it.. but that may be a bit complex
[07:45] <vas> no its a linux software..its some developed software for Linux,i donno name of it...they gave it in a unnamed cd?
[07:45] <Moony22> Wilee-nilee I have just fresh installed raring but I decided to get saucy now
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> vas:  look at the files on the cd. and hope they made it obvious what to do.. or included a readme file
[07:45] <Moony22> So it will still be like  a fresh install
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Its a development and on another channel, not supported here.
[07:46] <Moony22> Yeah but I was just originally asking here about the command in general.
[07:47] <Moony22> What channel by the way?
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> Moony22, Sure, I'm just making sure you understand the parameters and limitations. ;)
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu+1 is saucy
[07:47] <lvxiang> 大家好，我来自中国
[07:47] <Moony22> Alright, I guess before I ask you much :p
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> !cn | lvxiang
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Saucy Salamander brings up such... weird images. ;)
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> vas:  talk in the channel.. and it totally depends on whats on the cd.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> vas:  pastebin a listing of whats on the cd for the channel to see and check the apps homepage/support forums/guides/docs..
[07:53] <vas> dr_willis: there are folders like caspers ,install, isolinux ,preseed etx
 do that mean anything?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> means to me you really really should be reading the software's docs..
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> since those things are often part of a live cd you boot.
[07:55] <vas> sure i will do that thanku...:)
[07:57] <axgb> hi, I am trying to use MP3Blaster to play music, but it uses the wrong symbols, for example it uses the = instead of | for vertical line
[07:57] <ikonia> axgb: do you mean when you press the keys the wrong symbols come up ?
[07:57] <Moony22> Noone answers on ubuntu+1
[07:57] <axgb> no, it justs uses incorrect symbols for the boarders
[07:58] <Moony22> Does anyone know anything about saucy?
[07:58] <axgb> and also the volume buttons dont work
[07:58] <ikonia> Moony22: need to just wait
[07:58] <Moony22> But it is urgent
[07:58] <ikonia> Moony22: it can't be
[07:58] <Moony22> Yes because the output will go soon
[07:59] <Moony22> I can't remember it
[07:59] <Moony22> Let me write it
[07:59] <ikonia> Moony22: then you just have to wait - write it down, take a screen shot, photograph it
[07:59] <ikonia> Moony22: no, don't put it in here
[08:01] <ocooel> minimec: Thank you!!!
[08:01] <ocooel> minimec: I did still get this at the end of reloading sources - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002035/
[08:02] <Moony22> I did it ikonia
[08:05] <minimec> ocooel: Ok Then delete the files in the 'partial' directory too'
[08:05] <minimec> ocooel: 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*.*'
[08:08] <ocooel> minimec: In this order - sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*.* - sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*.* - sudo apt-get update..?
[08:10] <minimec> ocooel: The order is not important. You could also 'sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*'. That would delete * in the 'lists' folder, including the 'partial' folder.
[08:11] <kim79> hey
[08:13] <kim79> I have a question. What is it with Ubuntu future that many people talk about? some are even leaving ubuntu?
[08:14] <blazemore> !ot | kim79
[08:14] <ocooel> minimec: Terminal is now saying I can't remove lists* or partial* as there is no such file or directory.
[08:16] <minimec> ocooel: Well... I fyou deleted all the package list files, then 'sudo apt-get update' again, to load the 'new' ones
[08:16] <ocooel> minimec: This is bazaar - it's now working :-S
[08:16] <ocooel> minimec: something must have been down.
[08:17] <esing> Hi, if I stop webmin's service with: sudo stop webmin, will the iptables I configured with webmin firewall still be active?
[08:18] <ikonia> esing: webmin is not available on ubuntu
[08:18] <[Gentoo]> esing: check with iptables -L
[08:18] <blazemore> esing: Yes
[08:19] <ikonia> esing: where did you get webmin for ubuntu ?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> esing: webmin isnt supported here, nor is it advised in ubuntu
[08:19] <kim79> okey sorry
[08:20] <axgb> hi, all CLI based programs do not work when I have the computer full screen command line mod
[08:20] <esing> Good to know, thanks.  I can still see the rules after I stopped the service in iptables -L
[08:20] <ikonia> esing: where did you get webmin for ubuntu ?
[08:21] <axgb> vertical line changes to =
[08:21] <esing> ikonia, I added these repos: http://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge contrib   http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository sarge contrib
[08:21] <blazemore> ikonia: They provide a repository
[08:21] <ikonia> esing: that's debian
[08:22] <ikonia> esing: what version of uubntu are you using that on ?
[08:23] <esing> ikonia, I did cat /etc/debian_version , and then I followed the instruction for wheezy/lts 12.04
[08:23] <esing> ikonia, I use ubuntu server lts 12.04
[08:24] <ikonia> esing: that really can't be good
[08:24] <ikonia> esing: can you post the output of uname -a please.
[08:25] <esing> 3.2.0-51-generic #77-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 24 20:18:19 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:25] <ikonia> esing: and you're using wheezy packages against that ?
[08:26] <ikonia> (I know they say it's compatible, I'm reading the docs now)
[08:27] <esing> ikonia, I only used webmin's wheezy repo
[08:28] <esing> The other repos in /etc/apt/sources.list are all precise repos
[08:28] <ikonia> esing: I understand that, it's just a bit worry that it's a sloppy process, on a product already filled with security holes, very concerning
[08:29] <k1l_> !webmin
[08:29] <esing> Is there a good alternative for webmin on ubuntu?
[08:30] <axgb_> hi, when I have full screen command line open, it uses incorrect symbols
[08:30] <axgb_> for cli programs, for example, it replaced the vertical line with =
[08:31] <axgb_> and the horizontal line gets replaced with a L shaped symbol
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | esing
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> esing: or use SSH, like good admins do
[08:31] <esing> ikonia, Also if I stop webmin's service and the iptables I configured with webmin persist, then I would have avoided any security holes from webmins server?
[08:32] <ikonia> esing: hard to say, as webmin can set up services very poor - so stopping the service won't undo the config it's put in place
[08:32] <esing> ActionParsnip, With ssh you mean configuring it with just "sudo iptables ..."?
[08:32] <helixp> hi. is there any way to take away permissions to write to specific files in user's home directory? chmod 444 file didn't work
[08:32] <[Gentoo]> esing: maybe you need to read up on some stuff
[08:33] <ikonia> helixp: if they are not the file owner
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> esing: yea, like its supposed to be done
[08:33] <esing> Good to know, thanks
[08:34] <ffio> is it safe to delete /home/xfy/.local/Trash folder ?
[08:34] <[Gentoo]> ffio: yes
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> helixp: chmod -w username file     use sudo if the file is not owned by your user and you are tweaking another user;s data
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> ffio: if you install trash-cli   you can run:  trash-empty
[08:35] <ffio> [Gentoo]: ok
[08:35] <ffio> ActionParsnip: weired thing is that my trash can is empty but still it shows the files in that folder.
[08:36] <ffio> ActionParsnip: after doing trash-empty the files are still there.
[08:37] <[Gentoo]> ffio: does manually deleting them as user work?
[08:40] <ffio> [Gentoo]: while deleting manually its taking a long time and yet the files are to be deleted.
[08:40] <[Gentoo]> im pretty sure Trash is supposed to be in .local/share/Trash
[08:40] <[Gentoo]> not .local/Trash   unless its different
[08:41] <DJones> !trash
[08:41] <Skizu> Hey I'm looking to backing up some databases and files nightly, I was thinking what I want is a cron job?
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> maybe the program is looking in the wrong place
[08:41] <esing> Do you recommend to also configure iptables for my local system, though there's a router with a firewall between the local system and the internet?
[08:41] <DJones> [Gentoo]: Spot on according to the factoid
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> ffio: thats probably it then
[08:41] <ffio> it's there in .local/share/Trash
[08:41] <blazemore> Skizu: Write a script that does exactly what you want, and then set up a cron job to run it nightly
[08:41] <[Gentoo]> ffio: ah ok
[08:41] <Skizu> blazemore: I bash script is it called?
[08:41] <arti> What to do when tcp port is in use(aka i can't bind to it) but nothing is using that port (atleas netstat doesn't show anything)?
[08:42] <blazemore> Skizu: Yes just a list of commands
[08:42] <ffio> it's occupying more than 20 GB of data
[08:42] <blazemore> !sudo | arti If the port is <1024 you need to be root to do it
[08:42] <noooooooooooooob> hi, can i disable global menu from auto hiding ? i use ubuntu 13.04
[08:42] <arti> port is 10666 so it should work without sudo
[08:43] <arti> and sudo doesn't help
[08:43] <blazemore> noooooooooooooob: It is currently not possible
[08:43] <Skizu> blazemore: Say I've multiple databases (mysql) what would be the easiest thing to do? Make a backup users with read access to all databases and then some how dump everything it has access to?
[08:43] <blazemore> arti: Could you please pastebin the full error message
[08:44] <blazemore> Skizu: Take a look here http://www.linuxbrigade.com/back-up-all-of-your-mysql-databases-nightly/
[08:44] <arti> blazemore, error is "socket.error: [Errno 98] Address already in use" theres nothing more
[08:44] <noooooooooooooob> thx blazemore , fallback session + global menu plugin desn't run smoothly
[08:44] <Skizu> blazemore: Thanks
[08:44] <blazemore> arti: What are you running to produce that error though?
[08:45] <arti> blazemore, python script i wrote but same error happens when for example using "nc -l 10666"
[08:46] <blazemore> Is it only that port, arti ?
[08:46] <arti> yes only that port doesn't work
[08:47] <blazemore> arti: What's the output of "sudo netstat -a | grep 10666"
[08:48] <babinlonston> Hi How to update my ubuntu-desktop
[08:48] <blazemore> babinlonston: Use the Update Manager
[08:48] <babinlonston> But now its not loginning in
[08:48] <blazemore> babinlonston: Are you getting an error?
[08:48] <babinlonston> its reaching only upto logon screen and i want to update it from other PC throught ssh
[08:49] <blazemore> babinlonston: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:49] <babinlonston> no error every time i shutdown it wont get shutdonw
[08:49] <babinlonston> this 2 commands alrady did si
[08:49] <babinlonston> sir no use
[08:49] <blazemore> babinlonston: That's how you update it
[08:50] <babinlonston> from other PC i did ssh to this pc and updated
[08:50] <blazemore> arti: What's the output of "sudo netstat -a | grep 10666"
[08:51] <arti> blazemore, it ran for quite some time, output is: "tcp        0  65161 Merirahu6:10666         192.168.35.190:60548    FIN_WAIT1"
[08:52] <arti> it seems to be unfinished connection ?
[08:52] <blazemore> arti: your python script is still running
[08:52] <blazemore> arti: killall -9 python
[08:55] <Skizu> How do I update the db used for locate?
[08:55] <arti> blazemore, killall didnt work
[08:56] <blazemore> Skizu: updatedb
[08:56] <blazemore> arti: sudo ps aux | grep p[y]thon
[08:56] <DJones> Skizu: sudo updatedb
[08:56] <Skizu> blazemore: DJones Thanks
[08:57] <arti> blazemore, it returns nothing
[08:58] <blazemore> arti: How do you mean "killall didn't work"?
[08:58] <blazemore> arti: If it didn't say anything it means it worked
[08:58] <arti> blazemore, port is still in use
[08:59] <Skizu> What does awk and hostname do in ssh?
[08:59] <blazemore> Skizu: awk is a program
[09:00] <blazemore> Skizu: hostname is the name of the system you want to connect to
[09:00] <streulma> hello, even if I boot native or with VMware, I find things not crisp and clear in Ubuntu. What is the best setting for fonts in Ubuntu?
[09:00] <[Gentoo]> streulma: for an lcd you want rgb AA, try playing with the hinting levels
[09:00] <Skizu> blazemore: thanks I'll look into what they do :), the dbs aren't on the local machine so I can't use hostname (Reference to the script you mentioned)
[09:00] <blazemore> arti: What is the output of "sudo netstat -p | grep 10666"
[09:00] <Xentinel> I'm trying to auto mount a partition to ~/storage and while that has succeeded, it's mounted as root, I've tried adding uid=1000 to fstab, but ubuntu keeps telling me to shove it at boot
[09:01] <blazemore> Skizu: use "localhost" or just change it not to use ssh
[09:04] <blazemore> Xentinel: What Ubuntu version are you using? And is it an ntfs partition? Can you please pastebin your /etc/fstab file ?
[09:04] <Xentinel> blazemore, it's an ext 4 partition on 13.04
[09:04] <arti> blazemore, "sudo netstat -p | grep 10666" returns nothing
[09:05] <Skizu> blazemore: I know this isn't the place to ask but, making a backup user, any suggestions on what permissions it needs?
[09:05] <blazemore> Xentinel: You need to make sure the mount-point is accesible by more than just root
[09:05] <blazemore> Skizu: It needs read permissions on files it is going to back up, and write permission to the backup location
[09:06] <Skizu> blazemore: Sorry, mysql user
[09:06] <blazemore> Skizu: It needs read permission on the databases it is going to back up
[09:06] <blazemore> Is there a #mysql channel?
[09:06] <Skizu> blazemore: Good point I'll join that :)
[09:08] <arti> blazemore, "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_orphan_retries" killed that 10666 port, now it is working, thanks for the help
[09:09] <k1l_> !away > CyberJacob
[09:30] <streulma> [Gentoo]: My Ubuntu is looking bright now... If I use the Adwaita Gnome3 default theme
[09:35] <skyroverr> I have an old ubuntu 12.04 live usb, my ram has errors on it, i was wondering if the ubuntu kernel on the live usb already has the bad ram patch designed to ignore the ram errors, since i am gonna have to bypass the bad ram areas using memtest and grub memmap options.
[09:38] <compdoc> skyroverr, does memtest always show the same ram addresses are bad? seems a lot of work
[09:40] <skyroverr> compdoc, at times, yes.
[09:41] <skyroverr> But there are around more than 100 errors that memtest detects...
[09:42] <compdoc> skyroverr, on some ram, written on the sticker, you need to set the voltage higher than normal. if you dont, you can get random failuers
[09:42] <compdoc> failures
[09:42] <ffio> what's the commadn we use to check the details of our hardware, i don't remember exactly it was something like lspci
[09:42] <skyroverr> Um
[09:42] <DJones> ffio: hwinfo/lspci/lsusb
[09:43] <skyroverr> Oh yes, that one.
[09:43] <skyroverr> And dmesg too.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> ffio: sudo lshw | less
[09:43] <babinlonston> Wireless not working in ubuntu 12.04 lTS
[09:44] <gvo> babinlonston: laptop?
[09:44] <babinlonston> yes laptop Sony vaio
[09:44] <gvo> babinlonston: what chip?
[09:44] <ffio> thanks DJones ActionParsnip :)
[09:44] <skyroverr>  compdoc, my main question is tht does the ubuntu kernel on that usb has that bad ram patch?
[09:45] <babinlonston> gvo its worked morning and now its not working now
[09:45] <itDany83> Hi
[09:45] <streulma> babinlonston: please give more information place
[09:45] <compdoc> skyroverr, no idea. Ive never tried to map out bad ram. its best to buy good ram and forget about it
[09:45] <streulma> babinlonston: do, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:46] <skyroverr> compdoc, err, that wasn't the answer i was looking for, but thanks anyways.
[09:47] <compdoc> skyroverr, does the ram require a higher voltage?
[09:47] <thomnico>  
[09:47] <babinlonston> streulma: 3.2.0-23-generic
[09:48] <skyroverr> compdoc, its an old ddr2 5300 running on 1.8V.
[09:48] <streulma> babinlonston: do my command in a terminal
[09:48] <babinlonston> streulma: today morning its works and after a update and ugrade its not working
[09:48] <compdoc> sounds normal voltage
[09:48] <babinlonston> yes command in a terminal and hearder already have the latest version and not installed now
[09:48] <skyroverr> Yeah.
[09:49] <blazemore> babinlonston: Does it work when you boot from an older kernel?
[09:49] <babinlonston> Not tried
[09:49] <streulma> babinlonston: try, sudo apt-get install dkms
[09:49] <blazemore> Also, check there's not a hardware switch on the laptop to enable/disable wireless
[09:50] <babinlonston> streulma: installed
[09:50] <streulma> babinlonston: what it did? installed some things and probed dkms with kernel ?
[09:50] <babinlonston> blazemore: its Enabled in Laptop
[09:51] <blazemore> babinlonston: When you say it's not working, are there any networks showing up in network manager?
[09:51] <skyroverr> compdoc, ddr2 modules r a scarce resource these days, hence i asked about the bad ram patch.. :) anyways, thanks.
[09:51] <babinlonston> no just installed
[09:51] <babinlonston> yes its showingup in network manager sir
[09:51] <blazemore> babinlonston: So what happens when you try to connect to your network?
[09:52] <bibi23> I have 2 domains pointing to my server, I have apache installed and it listens to port 80, is it possible to redirect the second domain to another port BEFORE the request  is catched by apache?
[09:52] <compdoc> skyroverr, I have a bunch of ddr2. maybe I can get rich selling them on ebay
[09:52] <blazemore> bibi23: You could use something like nginx
[09:52] <ikonia> bibi23: why do you want to do that ?
[09:52] <blazemore> bibi23: But you do need a web server to parse the HTTP header
[09:52] <babinlonston> in All Settings there is Network in that if i click on ON under Wireless , its Switching back to off not stable
[09:52] <gvo> babinlonston: I assume you've powercycled at least once.
[09:52] <skyroverr> compdoc, hahahaha!
[09:53] <babinlonston> ya its already 3 times did
[09:53] <skyroverr> Bye!
[09:53] <bibi23> ikonia: I want to use node.js for the second website, there is no need for a webserver with node.js, the program directly listen to a specific port
[09:53] <gvo> babinlonston: I'd be tempted to remove network manager and install wicd.  That's what worked for my old compaq that wouldnt work on 12.04
[09:54] <babinlonston> oh then what can i do to work
[09:54] <bibi23> ikonia: but I don't want the website to be accessed with "http://www.website.com:3000" for ex.
[09:54] <ikonia> bibi23: you could try re-directing it with iptables using the target domain as a pattern match
[09:54] <gvo> babinlonston: sorry?
[09:54] <Dynamicwork> well
[09:54] <Dynamicwork> oh
[09:54] <ikonia> bibi23: could you not re-direct it internally within apache, eg: mod-rewrite, and a namebased virtual server ?
[09:54] <babinlonston> How can i make it to work
[09:55] <gvo> babinlonston: I don't understand the question.  I just removed network manager and installed wicd.
[09:56] <gvo> babinlonston: That may or may not fix your problem, but it did for me.
[09:56] <babinlonston> ok going to reformat
[09:56] <babinlonston> thanks sir
[09:56] <bibi23> ikonia: yes I think so, as it's an unneeded step I wanted to do it before apache, is it complicated to do this with iptables?
[09:56] <gvo> reformat?  Drastic
[09:57] <ikonia> bibi23: not complicated, but you have to get the rule/pattern match clear
[09:58] <streulma> babinlonston, with Ubuntu version are you using ?
[09:58] <streulma> arggg, bad English for me today :(
[09:58] <babinlonston>  streulma: its ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:58] <gvo> babinlonston: 12.04
[09:58] <babinlonston> yes
[09:59] <streulma> babinlonston, is the notebook new? Then try a higher version
[09:59] <babinlonston> no its 3 years old
[09:59] <streulma> babinlonston gvo, I have a Macbook Pro from 2012-2013 and 12.04 is not working :(
[09:59] <gvo> streulma: It worked last week.
[09:59] <Tonyo> hi
[10:00] <ikonia> bibi23: may I ask why you want to do this before apache, as the name-based-virtual-host and mod-rewrite is pretty much exactly what this is situation was made for
[10:00] <reisio> hi
[10:00] <billywannabelal> hi
[10:00] <streulma> hi reisio and ikonia :)
[10:00] <reisio> hi :)
[10:00] <Tonyo> pl
[10:00] <Tonyo> ;)
[10:00] <Tonyo> hi
[10:00] <karlw> hey.. ive jumped out to tty after my unity frozen on me. Is there some trick to make it come back i could try?
[10:01] <babinlonston> streulma: oh its new na so what
[10:01] <gvo> streulma: it stopped working.  babinlonston  did you update the software before the network card quit working?
[10:01] <blazemore> karlw: sudo service lightdm restart
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> karlw  alt arrow left
[10:01] <babinlonston> yes i updated
[10:01] <Tonyo> sped test?
[10:01] <karlw> Monkey: That didnt do it
[10:01] <Tonyo> speed test?
[10:02] <karlw> blaze ill try that
[10:02] <gvo> So is this the time line?  wifi working; update software; wifi not working  ??
[10:02] <Tonyo> try again:D
[10:03] <bibi23> ikonia: because this would do like 2 webservers chained, even though I don't have high traffic constraints it feels like it's  not optimal
[10:03] <gvo> babinlonston: So is this the time line? wifi working; update software; wifi not working ??
[10:03] <ikonia> bibi23: it's not two web servers chained, that's the whole point
[10:03] <ikonia> bibi23: it's one apache instance - one binary, one memorg segment
[10:03] <Tonyo> ah ok
[10:03] <ikonia> bibi23: thats why I'm suggesting it's better to do it at the apache level rather than before as it's all internal, logged, smooth and clean
[10:03] <Tonyo> oh ah
[10:04] <Tonyo> apache server?
[10:04] <gvo> karlw: sudo service lightdm restart as root??
[10:05] <babinlonston> gvo: i have updated using Ethernet not using wireless , While im checking Wireless at morning its worked fine , And now its not working
[10:05] <Tonyo> hmm   net bios?
[10:05] <blazemore> babinlonston: Did you try rebooting into an older kernel
[10:05] <bibi23> ikonia: ok you're right, I'll configure apache for this, apparently it's not recommanded to use iptables for this situation http://serverfault.com/questions/337380/how-to-redirect-request-for-specific-domain-to-a-specific-web-application-listen
[10:05] <ikonia> Tonyo: can you please stop just saying random workds.
[10:05] <blazemore> Tonyo: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[10:05] <Tonyo> ikonia speah pl?
[10:05] <babinlonston> blazemore: no
[10:05] <ikonia> bibi23: iptables will work fine - but, I do think apache will do this much better and cleaner
[10:06] <gvo> babinlonston: So did it work before you did the update and then stop working after the update?
[10:06] <babinlonston> blazemore: ill try and let you know
[10:06] <babinlonston> gvo: yes
[10:06] <bibi23> ok thx ikonia
[10:06] <gvo> babinlonston: So the update probably screwed it up.  Try blazemore's suggestion.
[10:07] <DJones> !pl | Tonyo
[10:07] <babinlonston> k
[10:07] <babinlonston> Give me step by step removing the old kernel
[10:08] <Tonyo> i started my serwer play game   how ip  serwer   players?
[10:08] <blazemore> babinlonston: Did t work with the old kernel?
[10:08] <Tonyo> lan ...
[10:08] <Tonyo> connect network
[10:09] <gvo> babinlonston: boot an old kernel,don't remove it.
[10:09] <blazemore> Tonyo: Can you please ask your question clearly, and on one line
[10:09] <RyanZW> is it possible to install ubuntu on a ps3? how well does it work with the small wireless keyboad..etc..?
[10:09] <Tonyo> ps3  is sit
[10:10] <blazemore> RyanZW: Take a look here http://www.pshomebrew.net/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_PS3
[10:10] <Tonyo> shit   ps3
[10:10] <Tonyo> !\
[10:10] <blazemore> !language
[10:10] <Tonyo> fuck  ps3!
[10:10] <RyanZW> blazemore: thanks
[10:10] <babinlonston> blazemore: worked with old kernel
[10:10] <babinlonston> how can i exclude the kernel update While im upgrading
[10:10] <gvo> babinlonston: Problem solved.  be sure to boot from old kernel.
[10:11] <babinlonston> ok
[10:11] <blazemore> babinlonston: sudo apt-get install linux linux-headers-generic kernel-package
[10:11] <blazemore> babinlonston: sudo apt-get install --reinstall bcmwl* firmware-b43-lpphy-installer b43-fwcutter
[10:12] <babinlonston> k
[10:12] <gvo> babinlonston: the next upgrade may let it work again, so you probably don't want that.  Just remember to boot an old kernel or set grub to boot from it.
[10:12] <babinlonston> ok sure
[10:12] <babinlonston> how to set in grub ? in grub.conf ?
[10:13] <blazemore> babinlonston: /etc/default/grub
[10:13] <blazemore> !grub | babinlonston
[10:13] <babinlonston> ok
[10:13] <jubei> anybody know WHY xrandr says "cannot find mode mymode" ?
[10:13] <jubei> even though I've added it and I can see it when I run xrandr
[10:14] <jubei> I'm following "adding_undetected_resolutions" in ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[10:15] <gvo> babinlonston: Set the line that looks like "GRUB_DEFAULT=0" to "GRUB_DEFAULT=1" to boot the second kernel in the list
[10:15] <blazemore> jubei: Did you cann your mode "mymode"?
[10:15] <blazemore> *call
[10:15] <babinlonston> gvo: oh fine
[10:15] <jubei> blazemore, yeah actually I realized that I must first "add" that mode
[10:19] <jubei> blazemore, so that's where I'm stuck now.
[10:19] <blazemore> jubei: type "cvt 800 600 60"
[10:20] <blazemore> jubei: replace 800, 600 and 60 with your horizontal and vertical resolution, and refresh rate
[10:20] <blazemore> Then copy the information after the word "Modeline" into the xrandr command:
[10:20] <blazemore> $ xrandr --newmode "800x600_60.00"   38.25  800 832 912 1024  600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync
[10:20] <jubei> blazemore, I've done all that
[10:21] <jubei> blazemore, but when I try to add the mode to DVI-I-1 (my output).. it fails
[10:21] <blazemore> jubei: Do you get an error?
[10:21] <jubei> blazemore, http://codepad.org/Comt9Q6h
[10:21] <blazemore> jubei: try xrandr --fb widthxheight
[10:22] <jubei> blazemore, already tried that. doesn't change it
[10:22] <blazemore> jubei: You could try specifying the mode in xorg.conf
[10:22] <jubei> and it's weird because my graphics board is a high-end nvidia board with the binary driver
[10:22] <blazemore> jubei: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114933
[10:22] <blazemore> jubei: I knew this smelled like nvidia
[10:35] <Skizu> How do I append to a file in ssh? Like I wanna add a cronjob via appending to crontab -e? Or I can't do that?
[10:35] <ikonia> append contab -e in ssh ?
[10:36] <blazemore> Skizu: ssh hostname "command to run"
[10:36] <blazemore> Skizu: so ssh hostname "echo foo >> filename"
[10:39] <Skizu> blazemore: Couldn't resolve hostname
[10:39] <blazemore> Skizu: That's a networking problem, not ssh
[10:39] <blazemore> Skizu: can you ping the machine?
[10:40] <Skizu> blazemore: can I use localhost?
[10:40] <Skizu> blazemore: can I use localhost?y
[10:40] <blazemore> Skizu: if you want to ssh into the machine you're already on
[10:40] <blazemore> Skizu: which seems a little pointless
[10:40] <blazemore> Skizu: What are you actually trying to do?
[10:41] <Skizu> Add a cronjob ._.
[10:41] <blazemore> To your local machine?
[10:41] <ikonia> so why don't you just contab -e and add it
[10:41] <blazemore> Skizu: I don't understand why you think you need ssh. Do you know what ssh is?
[10:41] <Skizu> Shell?
[10:42] <blazemore> no, ssh is remote access
[10:42] <ikonia> no
[10:42] <Skizu> Ha, my bad
[10:42]  * Skizu is the noobiest of noobs
[10:42] <ikonia> Skizu: I'd REALLY suggest reading some basic linux info on https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <blazemore> !ssh
[10:42] <ikonia> Skizu: you're going to end up making a real mess if you don't grasp the basics
[10:43] <blazemore> Skizu: At least make sure you understand every command you run
[10:44] <Skizu> blazemore: Ok I'm trying to
[10:46] <NetCatty> hi
[10:46] <blazemore> Hi NetCatty
[10:47] <NetCatty> How do I limit irssi's dcc transfer-bandwidth with trickle? I already tried 'trickle -d 204800 -u 102400 irssi' but it just ignores it.
[10:49] <blazemore> NetCatty: Not sure, perhaps it uses a different process. Try asking #irssi, you might not need to use trickle at all
[10:50] <NetCatty> blazemore: irssi has no bandwidth cap by default.
[10:51] <Skizu> Hey just to confirm "0 22 * * * /usr/skizu/bin/backup.sh" would make this script run every day at 10PM ?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Skizu: yes
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Skizu: assuming the file is executable
[10:52] <Skizu> ActionParsnip: Thanks, getting this
[10:52] <Skizu> Yep I did chmod a+x on it
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Skizu: the '.sh' extension doesnt mean anything in Linux
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Skizu: sure, if you want
[10:52] <Skizu> ActionParsnip: Sounds like you was about to suggest something else
[10:54] <somsip> Skizu: and it's an unusual path. Either /usr/local/bin or /home/skizu/bin would be more 'standard'
[10:56] <Skizu> somsip: Will apply that :)
[10:57] <somsip> Skizu: it might be right as it is, but it could be a dead path
[11:02] <mister_zombie> Hi, I'm looking for a bit of help. We have a tiny computer that we use as information radiators that are plugged on two different tvs, and we'd like to be able to play sounds on either one of them selectively. Both are connected through HDMI, and ubuntu seems to recognize both HDMI sound outputs. How can I play a sound on only one of those?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> mister_zombie  i suggest to ask in #ubuntustudio, it's multimedia dedicated
[11:04] <mister_zombie> Thanks
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Skizu: cmod +x file   is what I use, gives all users with read access, execute access (if memory serves)
[11:08] <jrib> ActionParsnip: I think chmod +x just takes umask into account
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> jrib: ahh i see
[11:18] <exFalso1> Hi, just upgraded to 13.04 and ethernet stopped working, the controller is not showing in lspci either
[11:19] <exFalso1> any ideas?
[11:19] <reisio> daughterboard might be loose
[11:19] <exFalso1> would be a weird coincidence, it was working fine before the upgrade
[11:19] <exFalso1> but will try
[11:20] <reisio> I'm not sure it'd be weirder than lspci not showing the device
[11:22] <exFalso1> its integrated...
[11:23] <exFalso1> huh but the reboot fixed it
[11:23] <exFalso1> "have you tried turning it off and on again"
[11:24] <ws2k3> hello a route has been added to my system but the route is still there afther reboot
[11:24] <ws2k3> the route is not in rc.local and not in interfaces so how is this route added?
[11:24] <gry> Network-manager probably adds it.
[11:25] <ws2k3> its ubuntu-server without graphics interface
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> ws2k3: you can try #ubuntu-server channel
[11:27] <ws2k3> okay
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> can the useradd gui be removed as package?
[11:36] <reisio> there's no package you can't remove
[11:47] <Antar> Hi
[11:47] <Antar> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:47] <reisio> yes?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> Antar  hat happesn when you try that?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[11:48] <Antar> MonkeyDust you mean sudo dpkg --configue -a ?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Antar  yes
[11:49] <Antar> dpkg: error: unknown option --configue
[11:49] <Antar> MonkeyDust what do you think ?
[11:49] <IdleOne> Antar: it is --configure not --configue
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Antar  i suggest adding an r, so co configure, not configue
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Antar  i suggest adding an r, so configure, not configue
[11:50] <reisio> I'd go farther than that, and suggest you do what the command said :)
[11:50] <Antar> oh oh
[11:50] <Antar> Yeah exactly
[11:50] <IdleOne> reisio: give helpful non cryptic answers please
[11:51] <reisio> it's more helpful to help people read things
[11:51] <Antar> thank you
[11:52] <IdleOne> reisio: starting to get bored with you.
[11:53] <reisio> lotuspsychje: figure it out?
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:54] <reisio> heyo BluesKaj
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hi reisio
[11:54] <reisio> what's shakin'?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> reisio, not much , having morning coffee...you?
[11:55] <reisio> BluesKaj: mmm, good idea
[11:57] <guest-V0ybGo> hallo
[11:57] <reisio> 'lo guest
[11:58] <guest-V0ybGo> i search for agerman ubunzu channel you know something?
[11:58] <reisio> guest-V0ybGo: yup
[11:58] <reisio> guest-V0ybGo: /msg alis list *ubunt*de
[11:59] <guest-V0ybGo> ok thx
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> reisio: lets say i only want terminal useradd, i cant remove the users icon?
[12:03] <k1l_> !german | guest-V0ybGo
[12:03] <reisio> lotuspsychje: you should be able to
[12:14] <DaveDave> Hello, will somebody help with qemu virtual machine networking ?
[12:14] <reisio> DaveDave: what about it?
[12:14] <mads-> Does anyone have a good alternative for xchat? The one (version 0.3.0) coming with 12.04 is super bad
[12:14] <reisio> mads-: what do you find bad about it?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> mads-, look in the software center for IRC
[12:15] <mads-> reisio, It doesn't remember any of my settings upon restart. The options "auto join on connect" and "show part/join messages" are completely ignored
[12:16] <reisio> mads-: mmm, you might want to try mv'ing ~/.cache and/or ~/.xchat2
[12:16] <mads-> reisio, to where?
[12:17] <DaveDave> @reisio I'm in network 192.168.2.x - my router is server with ubuntu 10.10 and on it I installed virtual machine qemu/kvm and I want to have access to this machine from all pc in my network - virtual machine got internet (virtual bridge + nat) and it can ping router (192.168.2.1) but other pc not. virtual bridge got address 192.168.122.1 and virtual machine 192.168.3.1
[12:17] <reisio> mads-: just somewhere else
[12:17] <reisio> mads-: then see if it works/endures as expected
[12:17] <mads-> roger - thanks
[12:21] <reisio> DaveDave: probably want to ask #kvm about that
[12:22] <reisio> DaveDave: port forwarding or something :)
[12:23] <DaveDave> ok thanks
[12:46] <Xentinel> hey, I seem to have screwed up majorly, trying to do a dist-upgrade on my install. Could someone give this a look? http://pastebin.com/3UZq9VKf
[12:46] <Umair> Can someone answer this Tor question? http://superuser.com/questions/633665/how-to-use-tor-over-lan
[12:46] <cfhowlett> Xentinel, so download the ISO and do a clean install to fix.
[12:46] <ellipsis_> Hello. I'm trying to write a shell script to set up a server and couldn't work out how to add a new user to the sudo file properly. I have to use visudo but then I can't have the shell script be automatic?
[12:46] <blazemore> cfhowlett: That seems a little extreme
[12:47] <blazemore> Xentinel: wget http://rory.sh/files/fixpackage ; sh fixpackage
[12:47] <cfhowlett> blazemore, I can't see the paste as it's blocked, but a fragged upgrade?  If you can fix that without a reinstall, I will exalt you!
[12:48]  * blazemore prepares for exaltation
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> :)
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !cookie|blazemore,
[12:49] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: I'm tryng to get the string "ActionParsnip is my waifu" onto as many machines as possible
[12:50] <Xentinel> blazemore, seemed to end up with the same thing after that
[12:50] <blazemore> Xentinel: Same error message?
[12:51] <Xentinel> blazemore, exactly
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: haha as long as stuff gets fixed, i'm easy
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: the script is a rip from the 'fix broken packages' page. I just made it a script
[12:51] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: I know
[12:52] <blazemore> Xentinel: In that case I really don't know. you could try to remove packages libwayland-client0:amd64 and libwayland-cursor0:amd64
[13:00] <Skizu> Hey I was just wondering, who does my cron run as?
[13:01] <Pici> Skizu: if its your user's cron, it runs as you.
[13:01] <kingvillage> hi...anyone can help me please, I plan to buy ASUS K45DR with AMD8 processor + radeon. I ubuntu 13 work well?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !hardware|kingvillage,
[13:02] <cfhowlett> kingvillage, more than likely, yes.
[13:02] <kingvillage> thank ubotu,
[13:04] <Skizu> Ok I think I may know whats happened, to call the command directly it'll not work, I need to use sudo
[13:04] <Skizu> How do I handle that?
[13:04] <kingvillage> @cfhowlett is hardware detected? I want to make sure, just because there is no good review found for K45DR running ubuntu
[13:04] <tsongki> can i ask. how to check for updates in ubuntu 13.04 raring ringworm
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ringworm ...hah :)
[13:05] <cfhowlett> kingvillage, no review means no one has commented one way or another.  most major OEM's run ubuntu without problems.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> tsongki, open a terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:06] <tsongki> thanks BluesKaj
[13:06] <tsongki> i really appreciate it thanks
[13:07] <Skizu> Anyone?
[13:08] <Pici> Skizu: on a schedule?
[13:08] <Pici> Skizu: using sudo crontab -e  will edit root's crontab, and anything run from there will run as root.
[13:08] <Skizu> Pici: erm a crontab/cron job ?
[13:09] <Skizu> Pici: Ah I see so it'll work, maybe I've done something silly, let me check
[13:09] <seanzky> i tried testing * * * * echo "test"  in crontab and it didn't work, any ideas?
[13:10] <Skizu> Pici: Ah had wrong path, my bad
[13:10] <Pici> seanzky: Where did you expect it to go?
[13:10] <seanzky> im sorry im not sure i know what you mean. ive only used ubuntu for 2 days. :/
[13:11] <seanzky> i wanted it to say "test" in shell?
[13:11] <Pici> seanzky: I mean, where did you expect that to output? The shell that you have open is not the same one where the crontab runs.  It won't go to your screen.
[13:11] <seanzky> ah i see
[13:12] <seanzky> so if i wanted to run a script for example, it runs in the background?
[13:12] <Pici> seanzky: yes.
[13:12] <seanzky> ah! that makes sense.
[13:12] <seanzky> if i wanted it to open a terminal window, how would i do that?
[13:12] <seanzky> ive tried googling and i cant seem to find answers. i think im using the wrong keywords.
[13:13] <seanzky> or maybe the terms im using are wrong
[13:13] <seanzky> too new to ubuntu/linux
[13:14] <gvo> seanzky:  From a command line, try entering "gnome-terminal" without the quotes.
[13:14] <seanzky> ah!
[13:14] <seanzky> thanks Pici and gvo
[13:15] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[13:15] <Argh> Moin, moin!
[13:15] <kingvillage> thank cfhowlett
[13:15] <seanzky> im trying to use crontab to run a script that builds cm nightlies
[13:15] <blazemore> !cron | seanzky
[13:16] <seanzky> thanks blazemore i actually read that already
[13:16] <gvo> seanzky I wouldn't bother putting anything in a terminal window however.
[13:16] <gvo> seanzky: Redirect any output to a file.  Or mail it to yourself.
[13:17] <seanzky> hmmm... that's a bit too complicated for me to do right now but im eager to learn
[13:17] <blazemore> seanzky: command > output
[13:17] <blazemore> seanzky: writes the output of "command" to the file called "output"
[13:17] <gvo> seanzky: works a lot like it does on windows in that respect.
[13:18] <seanzky> i assume specifying the path prior to the filename works?
[13:18] <gvo> sure
[13:18] <seanzky> awesome! thank you both
[13:18] <gvo> ls >/tmp/ls.out
[13:18] <seanzky> ill give that  a shot
[13:18] <gvo> That's easy, give us something hard!  ;)
[13:18] <seanzky> haha
[13:18] <seanzky> i try to rtfm on my own but my knowledge is so limited im not searching with the right terms
[13:19] <gvo> I do understand.  You don't know enough to as the right questions.  Been there.
[13:19] <gvo> ask
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> seanzky: its the same in Windows too.
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> seanzky: if you want to look flash you can pipe to tee :)
[13:19] <blazemore> seanzky: command | tee filename
[13:19] <gvo> What's floodbot's problem?
[13:20] <seanzky> ill give those a shot
[13:20] <seanzky> thanks!
[13:20] <gvo> seanzky: man tee
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> !netsplit
[13:35] <qu3sti0n> +OK 1iOI31GC1eb.V7jUL.WIUyy0WS/u90xWpKe0cV4QV/GlTqS1rb4Q8.2WTj21eit9F/1CFrM1V3jwS/NhX2I031VHW.JcNBk0rD8fd12bHK413Xp0C/m7k9Q0GCwng/KPv9p/x8WSn0h1Xx30n4jog.Ih5YA0KwVB3.TfO4T1
[13:36] <qu3sti0n> +OK E86pc1iFC.1.5fIn7/oHtXB/fSJRG.CIKFV/EsNp10nF3HU.BbeAW08CalE.
[13:36] <Pici> qu3sti0n: If you're using OTR, please disable it.
[13:36] <qu3sti0n> +OK qrysf1wWHxI1IE8Gf.GEhpk1
[13:38] <qu3sti0n> +OK acHqz/0Hl9r1nB5eb/7Ifwe/7jGe/0.v.YO/hQlY60ok9kk139UIz1hv9Z/0a4yfF1XS.Xp0Kw3kp0fQ.fP10JM580vrW07.aG5Ql/6tPg31
[13:39] <reisio> is that how OTR stuff comes out on IRC?
[13:40] <Pici> reisio: Its some encryption scheme, not sure if its specifically OTR.
[13:40] <Pici> qu3sti0n: Then fix your client because it keeps sending us things like +OK acHqz/0Hl9r1nB5eb/7Ifwe/7jGe/0.v.YO/hQlY60ok9kk139UIz1hv9Z/0a4yfF1XS.Xp0Kw3kp0fQ.fP10JM580vrW07.aG5Ql/6tPg31
[13:40] <reisio> mmm
[13:41] <qu3sti0n> lol thats fish. +OK is the plaintext prefix ;)
[13:41] <reisio> heh
[13:41] <qu3sti0n> i removed fish key, not sure why i had one
[13:41] <Pici> Thanks :)
[13:42] <qu3sti0n> np. so you guys did not see my msg before
[13:42] <qu3sti0n> any reason why Canonical/Ubuntu is pushing virtualbox 4.1.12, which is over 1.5 years old? no patches, bugfixes?
[13:42] <mcnesium> when i run byobu manually, i get a decent screen with /bin/bash and my .bashrc fine, but when i start a byobu screen on startup ('@reboot /usr/bin/byobu-screen -S fluse -m -d' in crontab) its started with /bin/sh for every new screen window i will open. where can i set this back to bash?
[13:42] <qu3sti0n> seems like someone has dropped the ball
[13:42] <guest8998> Hi there ... I'd like to know if there's some VPN service (such as Hotspot shield) for linux ... and if so, is it too hard to set-up? I'm not a linux expert :)
[13:43] <blazemore> guest8998: Ubuntu supports PPTP and OpenVPN out of the box, I believe
[13:43] <blazemore> guest8998: So find a VPN provider which uses one of these two technologies (spoilers: all of them do)
[13:44] <guest8998> blazemore: hmm ok, I'll google how to do it, good to know that we have an option :)
[13:46] <Shirohige_AC> erver irc.bakashimoe.me
[13:46] <Shirohige_AC> server irc.bakashimoe.me
[13:47] <Guest13483> how to check my lap is connected to internet or not..like ping command in windows ..what is here???
[13:47] <blazemore> Guest13483: ping
[13:48] <blazemore> Guest13483: I use ping 8.8.8.8
[13:49] <Guest13483> how to know my ip address her
[13:50] <Reef> Guest13483 : 14.139.155.210    It's your IP
[13:51] <Guest13483> how to know my ip address
[13:51] <blazemore> Guest13483: external or internal?
[13:52] <Reef> external
[13:52] <blazemore> Guest13483: external I just google "ip" or do "curl ifconfig.me"
[13:52] <Guest13483> internal...
[13:52] <blazemore> Guest13483: internal "ifconfig"
[13:52] <Reef> ifconfig in a terminal
[13:53] <blazemore> Guest13483: or right-click the network applet -> connection information (or similar)
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Reef: or:   wget -qO- icanhazip.com    for WAN IP
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest13483: ifconfig | grep 192
[13:53] <jackiee> any program able to create deb files automatically from my java program?
[13:53] <blazemore> Guest13483: surely ifconfig | grep "inet addr"
[13:53] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: ^
[13:54] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: Your command returns nothing on my machine, for example
[13:54] <_kas> Hey all.  I am using Gnome Shell (not Unity) and was wondering what my best option was for indexed file searching.
[13:54] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: curl ifconfig.me is easier to remember, but requires curl, which Ubuntu doesn't ship ootb
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: curl icanhazip.com
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: you cab do it with wget...
[13:55] <Reef> +1 blazemore =)
[13:55] <blazemore> yeah but I can never remember the flags to make wget output to stdout without fluff
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: wget -O -i icanhazip.com
[13:55] <Guest13483> it is displaying 2 inet address  what are they meant for
[13:55] <blazemore> I know, and I could check. But all our machines have curl anyway
[13:55] <blazemore> Guest13483: Does one of them look like what you expect?
[13:56] <Guest13483> no
[13:56] <jackiee> nejaky program, ktory vie spravit deb balicek automaticky a len si to naklikam?
[13:56] <marinel> Hello all! i can't get any sound. pulseaudio shows that some sound there is, but i can't hear it
[13:56] <Guest13483>  inet addr:10.50.6.54  Bcast:10.50.7.255  Mask:255.255.252.0
[13:56] <Guest13483>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[13:56] <marinel> VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[13:56] <marinel> that card i have
[13:56] <blazemore> Guest13483: Your IP is 10.60.6.54
[13:57] <Reef> please do you know where i can find the french ubuntu chan?
[13:57] <Reef> laziness to google it ..
[13:57] <blazemore> !fr
[13:57] <reisio> /msg alis list *ubunt*fr
[13:57] <blazemore> marinel: Install "pavucontrol" application and run it
[13:57] <Reef> thx
[13:57] <blazemore> marinel: Make sure the sliders aren't muted
[13:57] <b00b00> hello
[13:57] <blazemore> Hello b00b00
[13:57] <Guest13483> but bcast address is 10.50.7.255 ..which says my ip belongs to class
[13:57] <Guest13483> A
[13:58] <blazemore> No, your netmask is 255.255.252.0
[13:58] <blazemore> 252 there, not 255
[13:58] <blazemore> What's your point anyway, Guest13483 , do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[13:59] <b00b00> how from in ubuntu, i can discover THIS server dns public name, any way to do this? it more bash issue i think
[13:59] <ikonia_> b00b00: what's the problem
[13:59] <blazemore> b00b00: your FQDN is bzq-218-152-20.cablep.bezeqint.net
[13:59] <Guest13483> no
[14:00] <marinel> blazemore,  pavucontrol was installed alraedy and  its not muted
[14:00] <marinel> blazemore, i think that its maybe the kernel version
[14:00] <b00b00> that is not what i meant, i need to figure it out... thanks for now
[14:00] <blazemore> marinel: Did it work with previous kernels?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest13483: nm-cli | grep -i dns
[14:01] <marinel> blazemore,  3.8.0-27-generic. I don't know.
[14:01] <blazemore> b00b00: You can do "dig -x ip" to get the PTR record for an IP if that's what you mean
[14:01] <marinel> blazemore,  this is first time i attached jack 3.5mm plug
[14:01] <blazemore> marinel: Check the output device is set correctly
[14:02] <marinel> blazemore,  what means "set correctly" everything has default settings.
[14:03] <blazemore> marinel: I mean, you said pulseaudio shows "some sound there is", where are you seeing this?
[14:03] <marinel> pavucontrols indicator says that there is music, but i can't hear it
[14:03] <marinel> that blue line
[14:04] <blazemore> marinel: Can you run alsamixer from the terminal
[14:04] <marinel> blazemore, yes i did that also, but i will run it again. everything looks good there
[14:04] <blazemore> Use the left and right arrow keys to navigate between which volume slider is selected, and make sure they're all set to 100
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nmcli -f IP4 dev list   shows DNS IPs
[14:04] <blazemore> marinel: Also hit F6 to make sure the correct sound card is selected
[14:06] <arga> mmmmm
[14:06] <marinel> blazemore,  i can only select one card there that 8237
[14:09] <marinel> blazemore, do you know where i could debug this. /proc/something ?
[14:09] <blazemore> marinel: Stop getting enthusiastic
[14:10] <blazemore> marinel: It can be fixed within pulseaudio, and I'm sure if I were at your machine I could look at it and fix it
[14:10] <blazemore> marinel: Firstly, what made you think that pulseuaudio is playing a sound, but that you can't hear it?
[14:11] <marinel> blazemore, if i can see that indicator, you know blue line moving left and right. It usually means sound is there.
[14:11] <blazemore> I'm not familiar...
[14:14] <marinel> blazemore,  and i know that it just not "noise" because after the video ends that blue line also vanishes
[14:17] <blazemore> marinel: Right, so your sound card *does* work
[14:17] <blazemore> It's just that somewhere there's a slider turned down
[14:17] <BluesKaj> marinel, open alsamixer in the terminal
[14:17] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'  then turn those controls up to the max.
[14:17] <marinel> all sliders are up and no mute is selected
[14:18] <blazemore> And you checked the correct output device is selected?
[14:18] <guest-9n7oLL> hello
[14:18] <guest-9n7oLL> hello
[14:18] <blockcounter> hello
[14:18] <BluesKaj> ok , open pavucontrol and choose the outputs that coincide with your system audio settings
[14:18] <ikonia> you've said that 3 times now
[14:18] <marinel> i can only use build-in audio analog
[14:18] <BluesKaj> marinel, ^
[14:18] <blockcounter> t
[14:18] <blockcounter> t
[14:18] <blockcounter> t
[14:18] <FloodBot1> blockcounter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <ikonia> blockcounter: please don't flood the channel,
[14:19] <ikonia> blockcounter: check your pm's
[14:20] <daviddzzjee> hey
[14:20] <ubuntumonkey> Hello
[14:21] <daviddzzjee> what's up ?
[14:21] <ikonia> daviddzzjee: well, you're in an IRC channel called #ubuntu which is used for ubuntu support discussion
[14:22] <ikonia> daviddzzjee: if you do "/topic" you'll get info about it
[14:27] <jephb> hi,recently my friend asked me help  to implement for him a simple server which will help him to do the following:backup some files from client machine  which are using windows 7,restring and control access of users to the files on the server,and the server must have the graphical way to download the files to make life easy for clients who don't know to deal with commands.actually to be specif it is someone who is working in registration office where he is keep
[14:27] <jephb> many data about students. but also employees in registration office have diferent level of access on the files. my question was what kind of system do i need to  implement. can someone recommend what i can do that circumstances ?
[14:27] <blazemore> jephb: So you want a NAS box?
[14:27] <blazemore> storage server
[14:28] <ocooel> what is the channel to as the bot questions..?
[14:28] <blazemore> !bot | ocooel is there one?
[14:28] <jephb> NAS box?
[14:28] <blazemore> jephb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1266/how-to-set-up-ubuntu-server-as-a-nas
[14:31] <marinel> blazemore, well this pc is like 9 years old. i just attached my phone to speakers and they work.  Just too old pc for linux :) Also the GPU is from 2004.
[14:31] <jephb> how does it work?
[14:32] <blazemore> jephb: If your Linux skills are of a low level, why are you trying to build your own server from scratch using Ubuntu? Why not start with something that does what you need out of the box?
[14:32] <streulma> Hello, I would know if Ubuntu is compatible with HiDPI displays like an Apple Retina and if there is an option to set it to high dpi on 1650px widh
[14:33] <marinel> blazemore,  so i can use anymore windows xp. Linux is the lightest option to use. Or what you suggest?
[14:33] <marinel> blazemore,  can't
[14:33] <blazemore> marinel: I'd recommend you work out how to fix your pulseaudio issues
[14:34] <blazemore> !pulseaudio
[14:35] <webrunner> ok
[14:35] <ocooel> blazemore: #ubuntu-bots and there you can ask questions like " What's the best..." based on opinions and votes.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> marinel, oh I thought you had pavucontrol installed , install it , pavucontrol is the GUI for pulseaudio , it will help solidify your audio settings
[14:38] <webrunner1> exit
[14:38] <webrunner1> quit
[14:38] <daftykins> :o
[14:38] <daftykins> you can't leave!
[14:38] <blazemore> webrunner1: /quit
[14:39] <webrunner1> tanks
[14:43] <streulma> anyone an option for HiDPI displays, are they supported yet?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> streulma, maybe give us an example of the display device ?
[14:46] <penk> hi folks, can someone explain to me what "Packages with upgradable origin but kept back:" actually means?  I have hosts doing unattended upgrades showing that for mysql-client-5.5
[14:48] <penk> actually, this is giving a lot of information: http://askubuntu.com/questions/601/the-following-packages-have-been-kept-back-why-and-how-do-i-solve-it
[14:49] <streulma> BluesKaj: Apple Retina Macbook Pro, highest at 2880px width
[14:50] <gbit86> So I am working on installing xrdp, but I need to be able to manage the users that log in and keep each user within 1 session. Any suggestions on how I can do this?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> what's your best resolution, streulma?
[14:51] <gbit86> I basically want to manage/shadow VNC sessions
[14:51] <streulma> BluesKaj: I see on my Mac 1440 x 900 px
[14:53] <BluesKaj> streulma, which graphics card and driver ,?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> gbit86: are they on thin clients?
[14:53] <streulma> BluesKaj: Nvidia :@ (I hate Nvidia)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> streulma, nvidia is best for linux , usually
[14:54] <ezra-s> ^^
[14:54] <streulma> BluesKaj: I see that GTK+ 3.10 will have HiDPI support :)
[14:55] <BluesKaj> streulma, install nvidia-current , in additional drivers
[14:55] <Skizu> Hey I've a little backup script, I want to create a log file, I'm doing: sudo backup >> /usr/local/bin/logs/backups/`date +%Y-%m-%d`.log
[14:56] <Skizu> But I get an error that I'm don't her permission to the second, any suggestions?
[14:56] <Skizu> s/her/have/
[14:57] <raub> Skizu: do command in a script and then sudo script?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> BBL ...stuff to do
[14:57] <blazemore> Skizu: sudo backup | sudo tee -a /usr/local/bin/logs/backups/`date +%Y-%m-%d`.log
[14:58] <blazemore> Skizu: more info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/230476/when-using-sudo-with-redirection-i-get-permission-denied
[14:58] <gbit86> ActionParsnip: yes, I am using this with thinclients
[14:58] <gbit86> s
[14:58] <Skizu> blazemore: Thanks tutor :P
[14:58] <crypticmofo> question .. im using a lenova twist thinkpad with ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS .. the thinkpad has a mouse in the middle of the keyboard or little orange button that acts like a mouse .. when i use it it seems fine but when i go to touch or click things it gets jumpy .. anyway to fi ?
[14:59] <blazemore> crypticmofo: Does it only do it in Ubuntu?
[14:59] <crypticmofo> blazemore, yes
[14:59] <Skizu> blazemore: What is tee?
[14:59] <blazemore> Skizu: man tee
[14:59] <crypticmofo> blazemore, im applying 358 updates from update manager .. could that resolve it ?
[14:59] <Skizu> blazemore: Not sure I follow, says Is a directory to me
[15:00] <blazemore> crypticmofo: Couldn't hurt
[15:00] <blazemore> Skizu: type in "man tee"
[15:00] <crypticmofo> blazemore, last thing .. i know i have a 13 inch screen but everything is so crowded can i make the resolution seem bigger or the windows smaller ?
[15:00] <Skizu> Ohh man is manual operation I see, sorry I knew that but slipped my mind
[15:01] <blazemore> crypticmofo: Check your display resolution
[15:03] <Pici> Skizu: man is the manual page reader.
[15:03] <Pici> !man | Skizu
[15:04] <crypticmofo> isn't there a pager app or a thing i can add to the ubuntu toolbar so i can switch workspaces faster ?
[15:06] <crypticmofo> i got it
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> crypticmofo: crtl+alt+cursors
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> crypticmofo  unity tweak tool > window manager > workspace settings
[15:10] <Amnuriak> Hi folks. Trying to get httpd to use kerberos auth. Kerberos server is up and running (confirmed with windows environment). Doing a simple kinit user@<kerb-domain> gives me "Invalid argument while getting initial credentials" even though I am pretty sure the settings in /etc/krb5.conf are right. What steps can I take to debug this ?
[15:11] <Amnuriak> I followed the advice on https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/kerberos.html regarding under "Kerberos Linux Client"
[15:16] <t0tiz> hello
[15:16] <osirisx11> hi all
[15:17] <osirisx11> at the bottom of this page Jiri says there is an ubuntu package available for testing, but how can i get it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nuvola-player/+bug/1198614
[15:17] <osirisx11> he links to https://code.launchpad.net/~nuvola-player-builders/nuvola-player/pkg-trunk but it doesn't look like a deb package that i know how to use
[15:18] <blazemore> osirisx11: Updates builds will hit the PPA
[15:18] <holstein> osirisx11:  i see a ppa referenced.. https://launchpad.net/~nuvola-player-builders/+archive/stable
[15:19] <osirisx11> thanks guys!
[15:23] <EdwardIII> hey, i've installed supervisor and pointed it to a script, when i restart supervisior i don't see any errors, but it doesn't even seem to be attempting to start my process
[15:23] <osirisx11> holstein, blazemore not to sound ungrateful, but hoping you can help more, i don't see the nuvolaplayer-flashplugin package in that repo
[15:23] <blazemore> osirisx11: What are you actually trying to do?
[15:24] <osirisx11> maybe i have to add unstable or alpha or something
[15:24] <blazemore> osirisx11: does "sudo apt-get update "give an error?
[15:24] <osirisx11> trying to install that package, as it is a dependency of nuvolo
[15:24] <osirisx11> E: Unable to locate package nuvola-flashplugin
[15:24] <blazemore> osirisx11: Step up another level, what are you *actually* trying to do?
[15:24] <osirisx11> play grooveshark plugin on nuvola https://bugs.launchpad.net/nuvola-player/+bug/1058586
[15:25] <blazemore> osirisx11: also apt-get update did not give you that error
[15:25] <EdwardIII> heh what the hell
[15:25] <osirisx11> oh sorry, no errors on the update
[15:25] <EdwardIII> i installed supervisor, i run /etc/init.d/supervisord stop, do ps aux | grep supervisor and see this: root     18470  0.0  0.0  54060 12304 ?        Ss   16:15   0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/supervisord
[15:26] <blazemore> osirisx11: You read https://answers.launchpad.net/nuvola-player/+faq/2107?
[15:26] <blazemore> osirisx11: If you want the .deb you can get it here https://launchpad.net/~nuvola-player-builders/+archive/unstable/+packages?field.name_filter=nuvolaplayer-flashplugin&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[15:28] <osirisx11> thanks and blaze more :)
[15:28] <blazemore> Will do, but when I'm not at work osirisx11
[15:28] <osirisx11> oops how did that space get in your username, oh well.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> or just add the PPA and install.....
[15:28] <arooni-mobile> is there some bluetooth panel thing for ubuntu 13.04 that lets me quickly turn on/of bluetooth?
[15:28] <osirisx11> ActionParsnip: i added the ppa, it wasn't in it
[15:29] <osirisx11> i'd love a ppa
[15:29] <blazemore> !info bluetooth-applet
[15:29] <blazemore> arooni-mobile: I'm sure Ubuntu comes with that
[15:29] <arooni-mobile> i dont see it
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> osirisx11: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nuvola-player-builders/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nuvolaplayer
[15:29] <blazemore> arooni-mobile: I remember seeing a Bluetooth thing on my panel on my laptop
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> osirisx11: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue   please
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: try installing blueman then log off and on
[15:30] <blazemore> !info gnome-bluetooth
[15:31] <chumpy60> HI…. is it possible to use `do-release-upgrade` to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 ? not 13.04
[15:32] <blazemore> chumpy60: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:32] <blazemore> chumpy60: wait ignore that
[15:32] <Moony22> hey
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: -d will give Saucy
[15:32] <k1l_> blazemore: no not -d
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: -d = (d)evelopment
[15:32] <Moony22> For some reason when I lock my screen, it goes black
[15:33] <Moony22> i want it to stay on somehow
[15:33] <blazemore> Moony22: Isn't that right? Does it come back when you move the mouse?
[15:33] <k1l_> chumpy60: yes, "do-release-upgrade" will bring you from 10.04 to 12.04 if you have the LTS pprompt
[15:33] <genii> chumpy60: If the entry in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   says: Prompt=lts
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> chumpy60: if you look for updates, you will be offered Precise as it is the next LTS (LTS to LTS upgrades are very supported)
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  move the mouse to turn it on again
[15:33] <osirisx11> chumpy60 is in for a fun day!
[15:33] <Moony22> MonkeyDust, But how can I keep it on
[15:33] <Moony22> blazemore, Yes it does
[15:34] <Moony22> But like, in mint there was a lock screen with the time. I don't specifically want that, but at least my background showing would be nice.
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  system settings > brightness and lock > screen turns off (yes/no)
[15:34] <chumpy60> osirisx11: can you explain your comment?
[15:35] <chumpy60> ActionParnsnip genii k1l_: thanks
[15:35] <osirisx11> chumpy60: personally i would not upgrade between those, i'd do a fresh install
[15:35] <osirisx11> i foresee many issues
[15:35] <Moony22> MonkeyDust, I dont see "screen turns off"
[15:35] <osirisx11> but this is #ubuntu so everyone here will tell you ubuntu upgrades perfectly and there's nothing to worry about
[15:35] <BluesKaj> chumpy60, it's not that diffiult , make sure updatemanger has LTS turned on
[15:36] <chumpy60> osirisx11: you think it's better to just do a clean install?
[15:36] <blazemore> osirisx11: As long as there's not piles of third-party software, PPAs etc, upgrades work perfectly...
[15:36] <osirisx11> see
[15:36] <Moony22> I see "Turn screen off when inactive for:" is that what you mean MonkeyDust?
[15:36] <blazemore> obviously back up first, osirisx11
[15:36] <holstein> osirisx11: upgrades can break things... and for just certain types of hardware, and not others
[15:36] <Skizu> Hey I'm doing the following, ( mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR/$DB_DIR && echo "- Made needed directories for $BACKUP_DIR/$DB_DIR" ) || echo "failed or something" 1<&2 I'm a bit lost as to what this does exactly, I believe it to be an override for the standard error?
[15:36] <blazemore> chumpy60: rather
[15:36] <k1l_> osirisx11: be helpfull when helping. your attitude doesnt quite fit in here.
[15:36] <osirisx11> i've always had issues with crufty config files
[15:36] <blazemore> Skizu: Exactly
[15:37] <holstein> chumpy60: i prefer a fresh install.. i think its faster, and the end result is more predictable
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  Lock (on/off) > screen turns off (on/off)
[15:37] <blazemore> I advocate a fresh install too if you can
[15:38] <blazemore> But upgrades work 99% of the time
[15:38] <Skizu> blazemore: I'm doing this on a line below same thing apart from mkdir I'm doing mysqldump, this seems to be showing the default error rather than my defined one, mysqldump: Couldn't execute... Would you know what my issue maybe?
[15:38] <holstein> i like to see the live desktop on the actual hardare before installing *any* os, ideally
[15:38] <blazemore> Skizu: What's the actual error?
[15:39] <Skizu> mysqldump 1044, permissions error, which I expect just using it as a test in this case
[15:39] <jadabe> hello, i search a man, who is an old hands at use wireshark. i have 1-2 questions.  please, help
[15:39] <blazemore> Skizu: What's the actual error?
[15:39] <blazemore> Skizu: In full, on paste.ubuntu.com
[15:39] <chumpy60> ok interesting thanks everyone
[15:39] <Moony22> MonkeyDust, is this correct? http://imgur.com/AK62XLO
[15:40] <Skizu> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6003269/ it's not showing an error in the pastebin
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  http://imagebin.org/268101
[15:40] <blazemore> Skizu: Can you pastebin the error, please
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  what ubuntu version is that?
[15:41] <Skizu> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6003274/
[15:41] <blazemore> Skizu: The user "backup" doesn't have read access on the databse called "test"
[15:42] <Moony22> 13.04 apparently
[15:42] <Skizu> blazemore: I know, but I wanted it to have a custom error for this command
[15:44] <blazemore> Skizu: (true && echo pass) || echo fail
[15:44] <blazemore> Skizu: run that and see what happens. Then change "true" for "false" and see
[15:45] <Moony22> wait MonkeyDust Do i need to set a screensaver
[15:46] <Skizu> blazemore: Then maybe I am confused and have asked something wrong, lets say mysqldump errors like it is in this test scenario, what do I do to suppress the error message so that I can have a custom message?
[15:47] <blazemore> Skizu: (command && "thing to do when sucessful") || "thing to do when fail"
[15:48] <Skizu> blazemore: But that doesn't suppress an error on "command" ?
[15:48] <blazemore> It should do
[15:48] <Moony22> guys, how do you make it so your screen doesnt turn black when it locks?
[15:49] <Skizu> blazemore: But it isn't xD?
[15:50] <blazemore> Skizu: Give me an example
[15:50] <cheesecakes> hello
[15:50] <cheesecakes> my flash lags a lot
[15:50] <cheesecakes> in firefox as well as chromium
[15:50] <blazemore> yeah cheesecakes flash does that, it sucks doesn't it ?
[15:50] <cheesecakes> the voice isnt in sync with the video
[15:50] <Skizu> blazemore: - Finished backup of mysql mysqldump: Couldn't execute 'show events': Access denied for user 'backup'@'%' to database 'test' (1044)
[15:50] <blazemore> oh
[15:50] <cheesecakes> blazemore: yeah
[15:50] <cheesecakes> i think it is html5 maybe i'm not sure
[15:50] <blazemore> Skizu: What exact thing did you run to produce that error? pastebin it if it's multiple lines
[15:50] <cheesecakes> its youtube
[15:51] <holstein> cheesecakes: have realistic expectations for the hardware.. try html5 when possible. try chrome, not chromium since chrome has a slightly newer version.. let adobe know you are having issues with their product
[15:51] <cheesecakes> hello holstein
[15:51] <cheesecakes> i think we've met before
[15:51] <cheesecakes> karan here
[15:52] <cheesecakes> let me 'pepper' you with questions
[15:52] <cheesecakes> ;)
[15:52] <cheesecakes> it didnt happen before upgrading to raring
[15:52] <cheesecakes> the hardware is pretty decen
[15:52] <Skizu> blazemore: ( mysqldump --user=$DB_USER --password=$DB_PASSWD --host=$DB_HN --events --opt --single-transaction $db > "$BACKUP_DIR/$DB_DIR/$db.sql" && echo "- Finished backup of $db" ) || echo "- Can not backup $db" ;
[15:52] <cheesecakes> *decent
[15:53] <cheesecakes> a core 2 duo processor, 3 gigs of RAM , 128 MiB of a video card
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: what GPU?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: please hit ENTER less too please. it keeps text together
[15:56] <foofoobar> Hi. I have a strange problem. a "ls -alF" shows me an executable named "server" in my current directory: -rwxrwxr-x  1 deploy deploy 7372384 Aug 19 17:54 server*
[15:56] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: sure, its an intel GPU
[15:56] <foofoobar> When I try to start it with ./server I get: -bash: ./server: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden (file or dir not found)
[15:56] <Skizu> blazemore: ( mysqldump --user=$DB_USER --password=$DB_PASSWD --host=$DB_HN --events --opt --single-transaction $db > "$BACKUP_DIR/$DB_DIR/$db.sql" && echo "- Finished backup of $db" ) || echo "- Can not backup $db" ;
[15:56] <foofoobar> How can this be?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: sudo lshw -C display    will tell you the chip
[15:57] <blazemore> foofoobar: output of "file server" ?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> everyone uses "less" these days when the word should be "fewer"
[15:58] <foofoobar> blazemore, server: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: 10 items or less ;)
[15:58] <Proteus> How can i remove the "install ubuntu 13.04" executable that would install this version to my hard drive from my desk top?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, and that's wrong too
[15:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Proteus: uninstall ubiquity, or just delete the file
[15:59] <blazemore> foofoobar: Are you on a 64 bit system?
[15:59] <Proteus> delete key and move to trash does work, but when I reboot it reappears
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: we have that a lot in the UK. Its not right :)
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Proteus: is this the liveCD, on CD?
[16:00] <blazemore> alias fewer=less
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Proteus: or is it on USB? If so do you use a persistance
[16:00] <Proteus> on usb actionparsnip
[16:00] <foofoobar> blazemore, ' MSK 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux'
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip,o  same in Canada and the US
[16:00] <blazemore> foofoobar: you're trying to run a 64 bit program on a 32 bit computer
[16:00] <blazemore> foofoobar: It won't work
[16:00] <foofoobar> oh, okay
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: you wont get feedback as you type your pass
[16:00] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: GM965\GL960
[16:00] <Proteus> i did set up 5 gb persistance
[16:00] <foofoobar> blazemore, thanks for help
[16:00] <blazemore> np foofoobar
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:00] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: it was running, sorry for the delay
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Proteus: uninstal ubiquity   may help
[16:01] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: 13.04
[16:01] <Proteus> ok i will look into this
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: tried a non-compositing session, like installing xfce4 and logging off, then log in to the XFCE session from lightdm
[16:02] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: i've tried it with dwm, no joy
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/05/intel-linux-graphics-stack-releasedsupport-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: may help
[16:02] <cheesecakes> it works in normal mode, but fullscreen unsyncs the voice and video
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: could use minitube. Doesnt use flash :)
[16:03] <Moony22> hello, i cant find my ~/.config/autostart/
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Moony22: ~/.config  is a hidden folder
[16:03] <carado> guys, everyone, I need to test out a chatroulette bot, please try it with /msg Natascha !!
[16:03] <Moony22> I found ~/.config
[16:04] <Moony22> not autostart
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Moony22: you can run:  nautilus ~/.config     to open the folder
[16:04] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: thanks as always <3
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Moony22: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:05] <tsongki> guys! how to check and verify  updates
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> tsongki: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:05] <tsongki> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[16:06] <Moony22> http://pastebin.com/F7dFP8UJ ActionParsnip
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Moony22: then your support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Moony22: Saucy is not supported here til it is released
[16:07] <Moony22> ohhhh I see
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Moony22  saucy is not stable, no wonder you have issues
[16:09] <Moony22> i found it with a search :)
[16:09] <blazemore> Moony22: How did you get the development version of Ubuntu without realisiung?
[16:10] <Moony22> blazemore, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:10] <leo889> Hi guys...got a problem....my External hard drive fell off from the table and the cable got dissconnected while media was being played from the disk......now it doesn get detected when I plug it in
[16:10] <blazemore> Moony22: But how...?
[16:10] <leo889> I can see the disk in lsusb
[16:10] <blazemore> Moony22: What did you search for to find that?
[16:10] <blazemore> leo889: Do you see it when you run sudo fdisk -l
[16:10] <Moony22> "ubuntu saucy download"
[16:10] <Moony22> heh
[16:11] <Moony22> although its the second result for "ubuntu saucy"
[16:11] <blazemore> So you knew you were downloading the development version?
[16:11] <leo889> @blazemore nope
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> leo889: I'd ask in ##hardware
[16:11] <guest-u5te93> hello? i have a hp 6910p, i tried to use the built in finger scanner but now i cant log into my account "no suitable finger scanner ..." at login
[16:11] <blazemore> I'm just concerned people might be downloading early daily builds and not even knowing they have done so
[16:11] <Moony22> I know
[16:11] <guest-u5te93> and i can su - in my guest account
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: +1
[16:11] <leo889> @ actionparsnip K will do
[16:12] <k1l_> Moony22: saucy is the development release, so you knew it was the dev release when knowing the name
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> guest-u5te93: can you log i with password?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> *in
[16:12] <blazemore> I wish there was still a prominent "Download Ubuntu" button on the homepage
[16:12] <guest-u5te93> no
[16:12] <Moony22> k1l_, What do you mean?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> guest-u5te93: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[16:13] <guest-u5te93> thank you
[16:13] <k1l_> "<name> downlad"says you know the name.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Moony22: makes normal users not try and use the unstable release
[16:14] <k1l_> and Moony22 you were already told to ask in #ubuntu+1 for unstable support. and you already asked there
[16:14] <ubuntu> ls
[16:15] <Moony22> yeah i thought this was not unstable support i thought this was just location of a folder but now i just realised
[16:15] <Moony22> i realised they must of moved the folder so now i know where it is because I used a search
[16:15] <Guest22836> wellcom guys
[16:16] <blazemore> Hello Guest22836
[16:16] <Guest22836> hi
[16:16] <hqd> hi people, sorry for my not so good language, but who is there working whith django?
[16:17] <blazemore> hqd: Why not ask your question?
[16:17] <Pici> hqd: There is #django for django support.
[16:17] <whoever> hqd: try #django
[16:17] <hqd> thanks, i will try
[16:19] <dhiaeldeen> wanna give my new Android game a shot ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.watanyiait.khamsat ,, it is free now...
[16:19] <dhiaeldeen> :)
[16:19] <blazemore> !ot
[16:19] <dhiaeldeen> i'm too happy with it
[16:19] <dhiaeldeen> OKOK
[16:19] <dhiaeldeen> i will go there
[16:19]  * dhiaeldeen joins #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <chrs_> i only have one entry in my /etc/networks file
[16:20] <esing> I followed this guide to make iptables persistent on reboot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Solution_.233_iptables-persistent If I execute /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01firewall manually on startup then iptables will be restored, but they won't be restored automatically on startup. What may I be missing? I also tried to add iptables-restore to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and ../if-post-down.d, but that will make the startup pretty slow
[16:20] <esing>  (~30 seconds longer)
[16:20] <chrs_> link-local 169.254.0.0
[16:21] <chrs_> that doesn't seem right
[16:21] <chrs_> shouldn't there be something about my local lan or router at 192.168.1.1?
[16:21] <daftykins> chrs_: static config would be in /etc/network/interfaces - what are you doing exactly?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> add:  /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01firewall &     to /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it will run as root at boot
[16:22] <master> master
[16:22] <master> hi to all
[16:22] <daftykins> hi master, do you have a question?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> chrs_: 169.254.0.0/16 is the DHCP fail subnet
[16:22] <chrs_> daftykins: i installed ubuntu and when the system rebooted i didn't have a network
[16:23] <chrs_> i had to add an entry for eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
[16:23] <chrs_> auto eth0
[16:23] <chrs_> and eth0 dhcp
[16:23] <daftykins> chrs_: ok, was network manager not able to configure it for you after that? assuming you installed a desktop ubuntu
[16:23] <chrs_> which is weird, i thought that stuff would have already been set up automatically by the installer
[16:23] <daftykins> chrs_: yeah it should've been. i take it it was working in the livecd mode?
[16:23] <chrs_> i installed ubuntu 13.04 wtih no X
[16:24] <chrs_> no, i used an installer scripted i got off the internet
[16:24] <chrs_> http://goo.gl/s9ryd
[16:24] <senan> Hello All..How do I install ati driver if it is not listed in driver manager
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> senan: which ATI GPU?
[16:24] <chrs_> i didn't really read the script, the installer actually got ubuntu on my system so i wasnt' too concerned
[16:24] <speedwagon2> Hi! Is there a way to auto hide the top panel in unity? Maybe I am searching for the wrong term, I can't find too much.
[16:25] <daftykins> chrs_: oh, a chromebook - mmk
[16:25] <CLG> hello
[16:25] <senan> How do I check..mine is ATI mobility radeon
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> senan: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> senan: sudo lshw -C display
[16:25] <CLG> what is the latest african linux that has livecd?
[16:25] <blazemore> CLG: African linux?
[16:25] <demikaiser> Hello guys
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> CLG: what's african linux?
[16:26] <daftykins> chrs_: well, did you try running 'sudo dhclient eth0' ?
[16:26] <senan> ActionParsnip: product: RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v]
[16:26] <CLG> blazemore, Ubuntu that african linux
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> CLG: its an african word, thats all
[16:26] <CLG> Ubuntu = african linux
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> senan: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:26] <k1l_> CLG: all ubuntu desktop versions got a live-system
[16:26] <senan> Ubuntu means humanity to others
[16:26] <CLG> oh, just a word, ok
[16:26] <DJones> CLG: Ubuntun is not african linux, that is just a name, please don't keep describing it as that
[16:27] <chrs_> daftykins: no, i didn't. i just manually edited the /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted and it's working now
[16:27] <demikaiser> hmm, I can't see typing well...weird
[16:27] <CLG> ok sorry
[16:27] <blazemore> CLG: All Ubuntu versions have a LiveCD
[16:27] <chrs_> but i thought that the config may have been messed up because of the /etc/networks file
[16:27] <esing> ActionParsnip, Thanks for the hint, it didn't resolved the issue though. Iptables are still empty on startup
[16:27] <chrs_> but you're saying that's ok?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> senan: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:27] <senan> ActionParsnip : 13.04 64 bit
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> senan: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[16:27] <CLG> blazemore, even the latest Ubuntu? so I can run it cd/dvd to RAM?
[16:28] <daftykins> chrs_: oh right, well if you've got a functioning connection i wouldn't be too worried. i'm not really familiar with that file, let's see if i have one
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> CLG: it will run in ram for you to test as well as allow you to install in GUI
[16:28] <senan> till 12.04.1 my gpu got detected automatically. after that its not detected
[16:28] <k1l_> CLG: yes
[16:28] <daftykins> chrs_: actually that's the default content of mine, the link-local line you pasted, so i wouldn't worry
[16:28] <chrs_> ok thanks
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> senan: it needs a legacy river and Xorg, known issue
[16:28] <sideone> hey all. i am running smbd 3.6.9, and would like to find out how to share squid log files. the owner/group of the directory/files is listed as proxy:proxy. thanks
[16:29] <CLG> OK because I heard that livecd/dvd was dropped at some point??
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> CLG: not in Ubuntu, no
[16:29] <k1l_> CLG: how often do we need to repeat that?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> CLG  wubi will be dropped, that's what you've heard or read
[16:29] <je0rJey> CLG: wubi was dropped
[16:29] <senan> ActionParsnip : Thanks
[16:29] <CLG> ok thank you all for information!
[16:30] <esing> ActionParsnip, If I run /etc/rc.local manually with cd /etc;./rc.local the iptables are then restored again. So from bash this works, but somehow it isn't loaded on startup
[16:30] <CLG> so why the african name?
[16:30] <DJones> CLG: Why is Windows called windows
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> sideone: share the folder and authenticate in samba, you will then get access. Or use SFTP given using openssh-server and copy the file securely when you need
[16:30] <DJones> Its a name. End of story
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> CLG  it's south african, means 'I am because we are' or so
[16:30] <je0rJey> mark shuttleworth is South African
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> esing: the command will run at boot, you didn't need to cd to /etc , just run: sudo /etc/rc.local
[16:31] <k1l_> lets focus on technical support in here.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> esing: did you add the line above the 'exit 0' line
[16:31] <esing> Yes, above exit 0
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> CLG: why are you so tied up in what is african and what isn't? why is it so very important?
[16:32] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: lets move on
[16:32] <Idowu> is there any distro that already comes with integrated proprietary divers?
[16:32] <je0rJey> RHEL
[16:33] <jpds> je0rJey: And British.
[16:35] <c2tarun> Hi friends, when I use Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop with AC Power on it works as fluid smooth. But when I use my laptop on battery I feel considerable lag and stutters in firefox and other softwares. Also I feel lot slow performance. This might be good for battery life but I don't want this much performance degradation. Can anyone please tell me how can I control this?
[16:36] <Snake2k> c2tarun, do you use Unity, Gnome whatever?
[16:37] <N9kB2g> hi, i want to mount /dev/sdb1 but it takes so damn long and it does not mount... bsoded on windows while using ext2fs too. sdb1 is ext3 btw, formatted using gparted
[16:37] <c2tarun> Snake2k, I use Ubuntu2D
[16:37] <Snake2k> c2tarun, look into this http://ubuntuinthewild.blogspot.com/2012/02/control-cpu-speed-in-ubuntu-d.html
[16:39] <N9kB2g> anyone? :( I need the stuff I have on that flash
[16:40] <whoever> N9kB2g: what stu
[16:40] <whoever> N9kB2g: what stuff
[16:40] <N9kB2g> source code
[16:41] <whoever> N9kB2g: and where do you have it , or are you tring to get it
[16:41] <N9kB2g> Finally
[16:41] <N9kB2g> mounted
[16:41] <N9kB2g> thanks whoever
[16:41] <whoever> N9kB2g: np ... i think
[16:42] <je0rJey> N9kB2g, if you had formatted your flash drive, then all the data would have been erased . Only option you have is to use a data recovery software
[16:42] <N9kB2g> je0rJey: it mounted, its all fine, thanks
[16:42] <whoever> Jeruvy: ya but still your not garenteed to get it
[16:48] <c2tarun> Snake2k, I changed power mode to onDemand and now performance really improved :) thanks a lot
[16:48] <generalsu> hi, quick question...if i have a 64 bit pc with an intel processor, do i want the i386 version of desktop ubuntu?
[16:49] <Snake2k> c2tarun, No problem :)
[16:49] <daftykins> generalsu: no, amd64
[16:49] <k1l_> generalsu: the patent is from amd but also the intel 64bit work with the amd64 isos
[16:49] <generalsu> even though i have an intel processor?
[16:49] <je0rJey> c2tarun, tlp is suggested for auto power management in laptop
[16:50] <generalsu> ok thats strange because on ubuntu website when i select 64 bit i still get the i386 downloads..
[16:51] <c2tarun> je0rJey, I also looked in tlp but find it little confusing :| I'll surely try it on weekend
[16:52] <jshriver> greetings
[16:52] <k1l_> generalsu: just tested both releases and it works with 64bit version for the download
[16:52] <jshriver> Is there a way to modify the cli arguments of a bash script that is already running?
[16:56] <wasanzy> am trying to install tiwnkle on ubuntu but can't find it in the repositories
[16:57] <ryan_> Руддщ
[16:57] <ryan_> Ш туув ыгззщке фищге Цштвцщы
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[16:57] <rubino123> how can I reset my laptop keyboard?  ubuntu == 4b4nt4
[16:57] <rubino123> i am using a usb keyboard to type correctly
[16:58] <ryan_> Ифв ыдщц ШЫЗ зкщидуьы
[16:58] <rubino123> apple = a**3e
[16:58] <ryan_> Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰ÐºÐµ Ñ„Ð¸Ñ‰Ð³Ðµ Ð¦ÑˆÑ‚Ð²Ñ†Ñ‰Ñ‹Ð¨ Ñ‚ÑƒÑƒÐ² Ñ‹Ð³Ð·Ð·Ñ‰Ð
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  twinkle is found in precise, but not in raring
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  what ubuntu version are you using
[16:58] <rubino123> I tried to reset to us english layout but that did not work
[16:58] <wasanzy> MonkeyDust:  13.04
[16:59] <rubino123> using ubuntu 12.10
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  it's not there
[16:59] <wasanzy> so can't I have it installed?
[17:00] <hqd> pydanny , sorry but you are not from Ukraine?
[17:01] <trism> wasanzy: it was deleted because of this bug in debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673900
[17:01] <wasanzy> ok
[17:02] <Ubuntivity> Hello, I'm trying to stream the video of webcams to the screen (by using mplayer), I tried avconv but I'm getting various errors, can someone help?
[17:03] <dankest> I'm having some trouble with agent forwarding.  I have AllowAgentForwarding set to yes on my server, and I have my local ssh config file forwarding agents to all hosts.  However, when I ssh into my target server and run ssh git@github.com, I still get permission denied.
[17:03] <dankest> I see "requesting agent forwarding" when I ssh -A
[17:03] <dankest> What should I check next?
[17:05] <jellf> hi all
[17:06] <rosco_y> I'm trying to customize xterm by editing ~/.Xresources, and nothing takes effect--does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[17:07] <jellf> need help about ligthdm, the process take CPU high, any suggestion for this ... i'm use cinammon as WM
[17:08] <tharkun> rosco_y: xrdb -merge .Xresources
[17:09] <Felishia> I was told to put something to make hda Intel soundcards make sound
[17:09] <Felishia> I'm using ubuntu 10.04
[17:09] <Felishia> it's quite old but I can't upgrade
[17:09] <rosco_y> tharkun: ty--I believe that is the step I'm missing :)
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> Felishia, 10.04 is EOL (end of life), which means you most likely won't be able to get support here :/
[17:13] <Felishia> Ari-Yang, I know... the library doesn't
[17:13] <Felishia> well let me do live season u.u
[17:13] <daftykins> Felishia: i think i remember you. what was the problem with upgrading again?
[17:13] <Felishia> XD that the computer is not mine :p
[17:14] <daftykins> oh yeah... you ;)
[17:14] <Felishia> brb going on live season with 13.04 xubuntu
[17:15] <daftykins> lol season.
[17:15] <daftykins> omg running IRC as root also
[17:15] <daftykins> prepare yourself channel - fun times are just around the corner
[17:17] <xubuntu> setxkeymap latam
[17:18] <Guest17852> this is not terminal LOL
[17:23] <wasanzy> is there any other sip phone I can install on ubuntu apart from twinkle?
[17:25] <DJones> !ekiga | wasanzy This may help,
[17:25] <wasanzy> DJones: Thanks am installing that now
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> !info sflphone-gnome | wasanzy
[17:27] <mjayk> t
[17:28] <wasanzy> MonkeyDust: Ok thank you.
[17:29] <guru_> hello
[17:30] <Felishia> ok back :p
[17:30] <daftykins> ruh-roh
[17:30] <Felishia> wondering what was that I was told to do with my hda-intel and alsa configuration
[17:30] <Felishia> I forgot :c
[17:30] <guru_> how to make ubuntu running faster?
[17:30] <Felishia> it was a file that I needed to add a string
[17:30] <Felishia> guru_, run it from terminal :p
[17:31] <tharkun> guru_: State your problem with more precision. State facts.
[17:31] <DJones> Felishia: That isn't helpful
[17:31] <Ari-Yang> guru_, what do you mean "run faster"? do you mean using a light weight DE?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> guru_  picked up these tips on this channel http://ubuntuone.com/7D0HdIh1JYCAMwAFds8h1i
[17:31] <guru_> not really. I want programs run and load faster
[17:32] <guru_> I have a pentium 4 3ghz computer and with 4gb ram
[17:32] <Felishia> DJones, it's just that the problem was solved, someone told me to add hda-Intel (some string like that) in a file from the alsa configuration
[17:32] <Felishia> guru_ install compiling and not by deb files
[17:32] <tharkun> Get yourself a faster cpu with more memory.
[17:32] <Felishia> make, make install
[17:32] <Felishia> and configure all that needs to be configured from the source code
[17:33] <k1l_> guru_: pentium4 is quite old now. it lacks alot of technics new cpus got
[17:33] <guru_> yes, that is a better option
[17:33] <guru_> yes, but I don't want to spend anything on new computers
[17:33] <k1l_> Felishia: that is nnot the ubuntu way. please dont advertise that in here
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> guru_  did you read my suggestion?
[17:33] <guru_> everyday comes new processors and how many of them can we buy
[17:34] <Ari-Yang> guru_, comes down to buying a processor that will be good for the next few years :b
[17:35] <tharkun> guru_: In order to optimize your system (load/run faster) you need to know how it works with a little more detail. You can't control that which you can't meassure.
[17:35] <guru_> I would like to run a system that is stable and speedy and reliable
[17:35] <neyder> Hi there,
[17:35] <guru_> I think ubuntu has this performance
[17:35] <Ari-Yang> !lubuntu > guru_
[17:35] <k1l_> guru_: try lubuntu
[17:35] <k1l_> you got a old CPU there, so use a lightweight desktop
[17:35] <guru_> I didn't try lubuntu yet?
[17:36] <guru_> is that stable?
[17:36] <Ari-Yang> ....depends what version you get, guru_ you see the pm ubottu sent you?
[17:36] <k1l_> guru_: yes it is
[17:36] <guru_> a few days ago I installed crunchbang and it was really a bad choice
[17:36] <neyder> here in Peru, we will distribute laptops with a customized ubuntu, so I need to customize a desktop session to be localized and be the default session for new users, where can I find info and so?}
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> neyder  remastersys does it, i guess
[17:37] <Ubuntivity> I want to make a webcam control software: Something that records and shows (on screen) the stream of 4 USB Webcams. Is there a program already does that?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !uck | neyder there's also this
[17:37] <tharkun> AFAIK vlc does that
[17:37] <Ari-Yang> Ubuntivity, I think you're bettering off googling for such things....
[17:37] <neyder> MonkeyDust, it does for the first user but no for new users
[17:37] <guru_> did you try crunchbang, any of you?
[17:37] <neyder> uck doesn't with 13.04 grub problems
[17:38] <guru_> really, a bad choice installing such os
[17:38] <guru_> mint olivia I found not so stable too
[17:38] <guru_> when you want to connect bluetooth, entire system crashes
[17:39] <tharkun> guru_: Lets try to stay on topic. Please!
[17:39] <guru_> yes, sure
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > guru_
[17:39] <Ubuntivity> I was googling Ari-Yang, didn't find much.. I've seen something called Flumotion, but it isn't working correctly for some reason!
[17:39] <neyder> MonkeyDust, i want to create peru-deffault-setting and peru-artwork to be as a package and peru-desktop to be a metapackage
[17:39] <guru_> yes, ubottu, I have seen the message you sent
[17:40] <guru_> I would like to try that later
[17:40] <guru_> is it possible to install ubuntu 13.04 on my machine?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> neyder  then use !uck to do all that, save it and distribute the iso
[17:40] <Ari-Yang> guru_, anything is possible....
[17:41] <guru_> yes, but I want to know what is the best option here, I mean what version is best for slower cpu?
[17:41] <Ari-Yang> ....we've been through this, try lubuntu 13.04, guru_
[17:41] <tharkun> guru_: The one that uses less resources. But then your sistem  is your choice.
[17:41] <Ari-Yang> seeing how your machine is so slow..
[17:42] <Nekrid> hi guys
[17:42] <Nekrid> i'm new on ubuntu
[17:42] <daftykins> hi
[17:43] <daftykins> do you have a question?
[17:43] <Nekrid> i may have very soon
[17:43] <Nekrid> i'm trying to install a printer
[17:43] <guru_> how to bring panelbar at the bottom in ubuntu 13.04?
[17:44] <Ari-Yang> guru_, it's probably in DE settings
[17:44] <daftykins> Nekrid: ah-har
[17:44] <guru_> DE?
[17:44] <zetheroo> when attempting to play a video in VLC from a samba network share VLC does not play it and I cannot close VLC after that - I also cannot open the video in a player I know can play it - like VLC has crashed on some level and is blocking access to the share, or maybe samba is frozen up ... I don't get it ... but I cannot kill the VLC process either ...
[17:44] <zetheroo> How can I find out what is locked up and kill it?
[17:44] <guru_> What is DE?
[17:44] <daftykins> desktop environment
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, try killall vlc
[17:45] <Mace268> might need to -9 the killall if it's locked tight
[17:45] <guru_> you mean compizconfig?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> Nekrid, Have you opened the printer app?
[17:45] <Ari-Yang> !DE > guru_
[17:45] <zetheroo> killall does not work ... VLC remains "open"
[17:45] <cloneG> hello I am using ubuntu for a while, now using 12.04  I miss something really handy in earliest version that is a simple finder
[17:46] <daftykins> finder?
[17:46] <zetheroo> same for killall -9 ..... vlc will not die
[17:46] <Mace268> zetheroo, killall -9 vlc
[17:46] <cloneG> you enter the name of a file or folder in your system and it finds it for you
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> cloneG, a popup serach with key prompts?
[17:46] <cloneG> does 12.04 have it?
[17:46] <zetheroo> seems like VLC has gone defunct:   zeth      9263  0.4  0.0      0     0 ?        Zl   19:37   0:02 [vlc] <defunct>
[17:46] <k1l_> guru_: DE is desktop enviroment
[17:46] <zetheroo> gosh I hate defunct processes ...
[17:47] <Nekrid> how do i install a .deb file again?
[17:47] <cloneG> just search
[17:47] <Nekrid> yeah nvm
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, You can install htop and run it from a terminal
[17:47] <cloneG> it used to be on the places menu
[17:47] <cloneG> and its gone
[17:47] <guru_> perhaps I'm bothering you all asking too many same questions.
[17:47] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: and then?
[17:47] <lonewulf85> Hello anyone know how to force vuze or azerus to reappear in Ubuntu 12.04.2 x64?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, It has instructions on it run htop to see it to find and kill processes.
[17:48] <cloneG> Nekrid I love gdebi easy and efficient
[17:48] <cloneG> also ancient though
[17:48] <guru_> thank you friends.
[17:48] <guru_> bye
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> Nekrid, Did you try the printers app? use nicks if you respond to another person.
[17:49] <cloneG> no search engine for ubuntu 12.04?
[17:49] <lonewulf85> !vuze
[17:49] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: I was informed a couple days ago that defunct processes are impossible to kill ... that I have to reboot to kill it
[17:49] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: this is absurd IMO
[17:49] <lonewulf85> cloneG, In Firefox?
[17:50] <cloneG> weeeee
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, a zombie is nothing to worry about is it that?
[17:50] <cloneG> lonewulf85 I want to search only in my system
[17:51] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: I keep getting told that as well ... but if the zombie process is stopping you from carrying out a task then it is a problem
[17:51] <lonewulf85> cloneG, have you tried alt F2?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, By who?
[17:51] <zetheroo> what do you mean?
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, " I keep getting told" by who
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> or whom
[17:52] <cloneG> lonewulf85 that is the shortcut to execute programs or applications
[17:52] <cloneG> lonewulf85 I was trying to find a file or a folder
[17:52] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: I have been in here several times specifically about defunct processes  ... I don't recall the nicks of those who communicated with me
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Honestly I suspect you just do not understand and are projecting the blame on the OS.
[17:53] <lonewulf85> cloneG, My bad what exactly are you trying to do, search for a file or a program in your system?
[17:53] <cloneG> searching the system menus I found a thing called nepomuk...
[17:53] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: well as far as I am aware, and as far as I have been told, a defunct process cannot be killed ...
[17:53] <aar_> Hi, does anyone know of a Linux equivalent of GPGrelay (an encrypting-decrypting proxy that sits between my e-mail client and the POP3/SMS server)?
[17:53] <cloneG> would that do?
[17:53] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: if I am wrong then please tell me how it is possible
[17:53] <aar_> Hi, does anyone know of a Linux equivalent of GPGrelay (an encrypting-decrypting proxy that sits between my e-mail client and the POP3/SMS server)?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, This is free help and not always the best, don't just believe everything anyone says, and you are lacking details.
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | aar_
[17:54] <aar_> (Sorry, it was a copy-paste error)
[17:54] <Nekrid> guys, why doesn't this work? sudo mkdir /var/spool/lpd/mfc790cw
[17:54] <cloneG> does anybody know how nepomuk work?
[17:54] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: MonkeyDust was trying to help me the other day with defunct libvirt I believe ... is that right MonkeyDust!?
[17:54] <lonewulf85> ! nepomuk
[17:55] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: so are you saying that defunct processes can be killed?
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, What is your definition of defunct processes?
[17:56] <cloneG> nepomuk indexed file manager....sounds good but nothing happens when clicking it
[17:56] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: um ... a process that the OS claims is defunct ... .!?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, I'm going to be of no help to you to be honest, best of luck. ;)
[17:56] <zetheroo> zeth      9263  0.4  0.0      0     0 ?        Zl   19:37   0:02 [vlc] <defunct>
[17:57] <napsc> Nekrid: try using -p
[17:57] <zetheroo>  wilee-nilee: so after all that back and forth you really have no clue about this topic!? Mate - next time save me some time and typing and just say it from the start! ;)
[17:58] <Nekrid> napsc, i got around it by going to /var/spool/ and doing mkdir lpd, then going to lpd and doing mkdir mfc790cw. does -p has something to do with creating like sub-directories?
[17:59] <napsc> Nekrid: yes... it will create directories along the path
[17:59] <Nekrid> ok got it
[17:59] <Nekrid> thanks
[17:59] <lonewulf85> Anyone in here use azureus / vuze in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:59] <tsongki> how can i enable exfat in ubuntu
[18:00] <tsongki> anyone
[18:02] <OerHeks> zetheroo, if the parent of the defunct process is 1, you cannot stop it, reboot is the only way > http://askubuntu.com/questions/30891/is-there-any-way-to-kill-a-zombie-process-without-reboot
[18:02] <tsongki> i got error msg after typing apt-get install fuse-exfat
[18:02] <zetheroo> OerHeks: thanks!
[18:03] <lonewulf85> tsongki, You do know that exfat is fat64 right. and therefore Linux might not want to use or even recognize it.
[18:04] <tsongki> @lonewulf85 so i cant use exfat in ubuntu
[18:04] <k1l_> !details
[18:04] <tsongki> ok
[18:04] <lonewulf85> tsongki, Not that I am aware of try looking for diskmanager in you applications.
[18:05] <lonewulf85> tsongki, I mean Disk Utility.
[18:05] <tsongki> lonewulf85, ok ill look for it
[18:06] <tsongki> how can i post the terminal text so that you can help
[18:07] <lonewulf85> tsongki, in there the only options for formating are fat12,16,32 and ext d for windows. Why are you wanting to use exfat?
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> tsongki  add | pastebinit to the line (that's a pipe)
[18:07] <k1l_> !pastebin
[18:08] <lonewulf85> tsongki, a website called pastebin.com
[18:08] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I figure out what package a particular file belongs to?
[18:08] <tsongki> thanks for the info
[18:09] <lonewulf85> tsongki, then just post the html link after you have submitted the info to the site.
[18:09] <tsongki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6003770/
[18:10] <lonewulf85> Help with Vuze and Ubuntu 12.04.2lts x86_64 please, When it starts it is invisible.
[18:11] <Nekrid> so, guys, i followed the guide on Brother's site to install the printer's LPR driver
[18:12] <k1l_> tsongki: that is a PPA. which ubuntu are you on?
[18:12] <Nekrid> but now, when i try to add the printer
[18:12] <lonewulf85> tsongki, So yeah it looks like fuse does not support exfat. Is there a special reason you need it because ext4 appears to be a better choice in my opinion.
[18:12] <tsongki> kll raring wingworm 13.04
[18:12] <k1l_> tsongki: did you run a "apt-get update" to refresh the sources?
[18:12] <Nekrid> it asks me to select a brand and a model, but the model isn't listed
[18:12] <tsongki> nope well i should try k1l
[18:13] <lonewulf85> k1l, Good spot on that I had to re-read it to see that he did not. lol
[18:14] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about transfering environments from one Ubuntu computer to another when one is x64 and one is x86. (1) Will exporting a package list from the 64 to the 86 break anything? (2) Will moving settings files from /etc or /usr/share break anything? (3) Do the Ubuntu versions have to be the same?
[18:16] <lonewulf85> MoPac, x86 does not support x64 packages so yes going from x64 to x86 would mess things up, however going from x86 to x64 would not.
[18:17] <MoPac> lonewulf85: so the package list is specific to the architecture and the distro, right? The target comp wouldn't just find the equivalent package for its arch?
[18:17] <tsongki> yey! it worked! thanks guyz i really appreciated it. well mounting exfat is be done manually. But it worked nice
[18:17] <tsongki> thanks lonewulf85 and k1l
[18:17] <tsongki> thumbs up for the both of you lol
[18:18] <Nekrid> help me here guys, if i select the generic driver for the printer, it then reccomends me to select "text-only", there are a bunch of PCL and PostScript and RAW Queue options, i don't know which one to select. i don't want it to print just text, i want it to print anything
[18:18] <Ben64> MoPac: it should work. the package list will mostly be stuff like "nmap" without the architecture on it
[18:18] <lonewulf85> MoPac, It might but I have only gone from x86 to x64 and it worked. I have not tried to go from x64 to x86 you could try aptoncd that might work.
[18:19] <lonewulf85> ! aptoncd
[18:19] <bibi23> I have a server containing some websites, over the time I installed packages as they were needing some, made configurations and so... now I'm wondering, if tomorrow I switch to a new server (eg. more powerful server) I'll have to try to remember everything and set it up again, is there a way to avoid this? how can I store and manage os settings needed by a website?
[18:20] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. I have a bash script with a command like " eval nohup command& >> nohup.out". When I run this script manually: no problem, nohup.out contain the comments. When I run via cron (*/1 * * * * script.sh >> log), nohup.out contain nothing but the comments are (partially) put into the log file of the cron job. Anyone have an idea of my error? Thanks in advance.
[18:20] <MoPac> Ben64: lonewulf85: To be more specific, do you think I would break things by following the steps at http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/new-computer-old-os-how-to-migrate-linux-between-machines/ break the target?
[18:22] <MoPac> Ben64: lonewulf85: (That guide says to get a txt of packages and then sudo dpkg --set-selections < /home/[your user name]/packagelist.txt.
[18:22] <Ben64> MoPac: should work, or you can use the software center to sync two computers' packages
[18:22] <MoPac> Ben64: unfortunaetely software center sync is broken
[18:23] <Ben64> no it isn't
[18:23] <MoPac> Ben64: Also, on a side note, I can't find any documentation on account security for software center sync
[18:23] <axxa> I need some help, I just started using ubuntu and I was having a problem with the driver for the video card, so I changed it to the proprietary driver and now I do not have access to my launcher nor the user bar, how do I fix this?
[18:23] <MoPac> Ben64: *broken for me
[18:23] <Ben64> well sounds like you have other problems going on
[18:23] <axxa> Ok, what should I do?
[18:24] <MoPac> Ben64: My problem is not uncommon, but I'd prefer a non-software-center solution anyway, since I can't find documentation for it
[18:24] <MoPac> axxa: Can you successfully login to your user account?
[18:24] <axxa> @MoPac yes
[18:25] <ubuntu-addict> 2
[18:25] <ddonna> If my apt-get update command blocks while attempting to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com, from how high a window do I need to throw my computer?
[18:25] <lonewulf85> MoPac, I see it is meaning to transfer everything. Going from the x64 arch to the x86 one might cause instability in the os. but transferring of user files would not have any negative affect.
[18:27] <MoPac> lonewulf85: I'm more concerned about the list of packages that the target should install and about the settings files for the programs I already have -- like my Firefox extensions, KVIrc server configuration, Tor config file, etc
[18:27] <MoPac> axxa: So when you log in, what do you see?
[18:28] <MoPac> lonewulf85: It seems like some of that lives in /home, some in /usr, and some in /etc, and I can't really make sense of what can be copied over and what can't
[18:29] <lonewulf85> MoPac, I believe that it all can be copied over.
[18:29] <lonewulf85> MoPac, the only thing is if they are setup on individual partitions then you need to also set them up that way on the new system.
[18:30] <MoPac> Ben64: FYI - apparently it's broken. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1179903
[18:32] <MoPac> lonewulf85: My situation is more like this: I have an x64 computer that is my main, and an x86 as a backup. The x86 already has Ubuntu inistalled, and my user files are copied. But what I'd really like to do is transfer all my program settings instead of having to set up the environment from scratch, without reinstalling Ubuntu
[18:32] <MoPac> The bonus complication is that the main computer is on Raring and the backup on Saucy right now, but that difference will disappear soon
[18:32] <MoPac> axxa: You still with us?
[18:32] <lonewulf85> MoPac, does the backup pc already have the same programs?
[18:33] <axxa> yes just trying to figure out how IRCs work
[18:33] <MoPac> lonewulf85: Nope, I was hoping to have to avoid making a catalogue of them, figuring out which extra repos they come from, figuring out which had compatible saucy or x86 versions, etc
[18:34] <MoPac> lonewulf85: So it looked like I could just export a package list and copy ancillary settings files, like hidden files from /home,, but I came here when I realized that the archi
[18:34] <MoPac> tecture might make a problem
[18:34] <lonewulf85> MoPac, I just recommend using aptoncd you can save it to a usb and it would work faster.
[18:35] <MoPac> axxa: log in to your user account, are you able to pull up a terminal window? (ctrl-alt-T)
[18:35] <MoPac> package aptoncd
[18:35] <axxa> @MoPac the terminal is how I've been running everything
[18:36] <lonewulf85> MoPac, Yeah you just need that on both systems and then run it on both and all programs will be copied then just copy and paste the appropriate files to the appropriate places and you should be golden.
[18:37] <MoPac> This guide says APTonCD won't work across an architecture gap http://www.howtogeek.com/110034/how-to-back-up-restore-your-installed-ubuntu-packages-with-aptoncd/
[18:37] <MoPac> axxa: okay, one more question - is this an nvidia card?
[18:39] <axxa> @MoPac it's an AMD
[18:39] <danny4way> How do I connect my laptop to TV wirelessly?
[18:39] <danny4way> Can Ubuntu do that?
[18:40] <MoPac> axxa: okay, I'm not as familiar with recovering from this problem when it's AMD (if it's the same problem), but I know a couple of things to check. Install ccsm if you don't have it (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[18:40] <MoPac> axxa: (once installed, the command is "ccsm")
[18:41] <danny4way> How do I connect my laptop to TV?
[18:41] <danny4way> Wirelessly.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> !httml
[18:41] <danny4way> Cable?
[18:41] <danny4way> HTTML cable?
[18:42] <danny4way> Is that the only way?
[18:42] <MoPac> !repeat | danny4way
[18:42] <omgeek> I m from phone
[18:42] <omgeek> This is first time hey all
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, not sure I found this though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/152695/can-i-connect-my-ubuntu-laptop-to-my-hdtv-wirelessly
[18:43] <danny4way> Thank you
[18:43] <MoPac> Hi omgeek
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Can't gaurantee anything, not an are I have aclue in.
[18:43] <axxa> @MoPac It's installing, what do I do after I have it run?
[18:43] <omgeek> Mopac hey
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> like many others, lol
[18:43] <danny4way> That's okay.
[18:44] <MoPac> axxa: Check to see if the Unity plugin has been disabled during the driver switch
[18:45] <omgeek> Mopac how r u
[18:45] <kodjo> hi, can someone help me to configure power nap under ubuntu 12.04 server ?
[18:45] <MoPac> omgeek: If you have a support question please feel free to ask it; someone here may be able to help you
[18:45] <axxa> @MoPac I have the option to enable it
[18:46] <MoPac> axxa: Try enabling it and see if that helps. It may be an OpenGL problem, but first just see what happens when you try enabling Unity and all the stuff it depends on
[18:46] <MoPac> axxa: (It'll tell you if such-and-such needs to be enabled at the same time)
[18:47] <axxa> @MoPac it's telling me it requires OpenGl and it gives me the option to enable it
[18:47] <omgeek> Mopac I need help in publishing a research paper for linux n bug data ifu can help ..
[18:48] <MoPac> axxa: Yep, so see if you can enable it or if it reverts right back to disabled
[18:49] <axxa> @MoPac it's telling me I need to enable Scale
[18:49] <MoPac> axxa: Yeah, just enable everything it asks for, and then see if the enabling will stick or not
[18:50] <CodeWar> Trying to open .jnlp files using the command ~path/javaws --wait . When I goto Open With from Nautilius, I don't see an option to add a script to launch a filetype. Whats the best way to do this?
[18:50] <lonewulf85> Please anyone Vuze disappears
[18:51] <axxa> @MoPac I get this:The new value for the key binding for the action Key to execute a command in plugin Ubuntu Unity Plugin conflicts with the action Run Dialog of the Gnome Compatibility plugin.
[18:51] <axxa> Do you wish to disable Run Dialog in the Gnome Compatibility plugin?
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  i don't use it myself, but check the preferences, there must be an option "minimize to panel" or so
[18:51] <MoPac> axxa: are you on IRC on the computer you're trying to fix or on a different one?
[18:52] <axxa> @MoPac same computer
[18:52] <MoPac> axxa: Okay, what I recommend is that if you let Unity enable anything that it wants to, including the keyboard bindings (so if it wants to disable something else that is in conflict, that's fine)
[18:53] <MoPac> axxa: If it breaks your ability to get back to the IRC window, just restart and I'll try you on another idea.
[18:54] <axxa> @MoPac it worked!! Thank you so much
[18:55] <MoPac> axxa: Great to hear
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  like so, this is Deluge preferences http://imagebin.org/268109
[18:59] <slobro> hi, my lubuntu 12.04 wont start up, it hangs up after saned daemon has been started. at first it didnt start and said speech-dispatcher and saned wouldnt start and to edit the config.
[18:59] <slobro> i did that to both of them, set run=yes and they start now, but it hangs up after that.
[19:03] <tomivs> Kwargs, Chung wan wei
[19:04] <Antonella1_31> XD
[19:04] <tomivs> Antonella1_31, Chucho chan chi
[19:04] <Antonella1_31> ._. Que?
[19:04] <tomivs> Antonella1_31, Eshtoy hablando chino
[19:04] <Antonella1_31> aaaaa y que dice?
[19:04] <Antonella1_31> xD
[19:04] <nakarit> ni jao kilan
[19:04] <Antonella1_31> jajajaja
[19:04] <tomivs> Antonella1_31, No se. Pero asi piensan
[19:05] <nakarit> jajajajajaja
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Antonella1_31, nakarit This is an english channel
[19:05] <nakarit> y no hablan
[19:05] <nakarit> antonella que dice?
[19:05] <nakarit> que dice wilee-nilee
[19:05] <Antonella1_31> XD
[19:05] <Antonella1_31> nananan
[19:05] <bazhang> Antonella1_31, thats enough
[19:05] <Antonella1_31> XD no se que dicen
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> _Que?
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> Que dieeen
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> xD
[19:06] <bazhang> !es
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> dicen
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> XD
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> mojo de mierdaaaaa Chao
[19:06] <Antonella1_31> ^^
[19:06] <tomivs> Antonella1_31, Dicen que este es un canal de inglés
[19:06] <slobro> hm, it was just my hdd that was full. weird it didnt tell me about it
[19:06] <tomivs> bazhang, Antonella1_31 is troll
[19:06] <bazhang> tomivs, get back on topic please
[19:07] <tomivs> bazhang, See you later
[19:10] <lvleph> For some reason mounting with defaults in fstab is not allowing write permission. I don't understand what is going on. Can someone help me?
[19:11] <lvleph> The file system is ext3 and this is a fresh install
[19:14] <lvleph> This is the least active I have ever seen this channel
[19:14] <lvleph> what gives?
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> lvleph, Who knows and this is offtopic.
[19:15] <lvleph> what is off topic?
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> net splits will do it at times though
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !0t
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:16] <lvleph> So asking about an issue with a fresh install of Ubuntu is off topic?
[19:16] <reisio> I think he meant talking about the channel is off topic
[19:16] <lvleph> lol
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> lvleph, No asking why it is slow is relevant
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> irrelevant
[19:16] <lvleph> That was a comment about no response to my question, but ok
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> lvleph, If you look closely you will see I just came on I did not see your question.
[19:18] <lvleph> Yep 1 sec after I asked
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> it happens. ;)
[19:18] <lvleph> Okay, my question
[19:18] <lvleph> For some reason mounting with defaults in fstab is not allowing write permission. I don't understand what is going on. Can someone help me?
[19:19] <linuxthefish> all help streulma please ok
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> lvleph, Pastebin your fstab for th channel for help I suspect
[19:19] <daftykins> lvleph: the parameter 'user' rather than just 'defaults' in fstab tends to allow user write, but have you also checked the drive's permissions?
[19:19] <streulma> \o/
[19:20] <lvleph> It was the default fstab after install so..
[19:20] <lvleph> New HD since the other failed.
[19:20] <streulma> who can help me?
[19:21] <lvleph> How do I check drive permissions because changin to user didn't solve the problem daftykins
[19:21] <reisio> streulma: someone who knows your issue
[19:22] <lvleph> streulma:  I didn't catch your question
[19:22] <daftykins> lvleph: pastebin your fstab please as wilee-nilee suggested, then check your mountpoint's permissions for whether your username is against them, e.g. if /mount is where it is, "ls -l /"
[19:23] <Nekrid> guys, i have installed LAMP, everything is working, but now i want to copy all my php project folders to /var/www and i want to chmod that directory so i will be able to create new folders and php files without needing to go to the terminal and use sudo mkdir and such
[19:23] <lvleph> I hate trying to pastebin while using ssh!
[19:23] <daftykins> Nekrid: sudo chmod -R username: /var/www
[19:24] <Ben64> !pastebinit | lvleph
[19:24] <streulma> reisio: I speak all day about my problem, I'm on Unity and I have a high resolution display, better 2880 x 1800 is the Ubuntu native resolution, if I go lower, then it's blurry on my Macbook Pro Retina display.
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | lvleph YOU can run pastebinit
[19:24] <reisio> streulma: which version of Ubuntu?
[19:24] <streulma> reisio: 13.04
[19:25] <daftykins> i can't even remember the official line on mac support
[19:25] <Nekrid> daftykins, thats not working
[19:25] <ikonia> streulma: there is a known issue with retina displays and unity especially around the fonts
[19:25] <ikonia> it's something to do with the scaling
[19:25] <daftykins> Nekrid: define 'not working' with more words please
[19:26] <Nekrid> chmod: modo inválido: «pedro:»
[19:26] <Nekrid> Tente 'chmod --help' para mais informações.
[19:26] <reisio> streulma: what kernel version?
[19:26] <Nekrid> i replaced username with pedro btw
[19:26] <daftykins> Nekrid: oops i meant chown
[19:26] <streulma> ok ikonia and reisio, kernel version is latest official 13.04 kernel (by upgrade)
[19:27] <Nekrid> oh, you mean making my user the owner
[19:27] <Nekrid> of that dir
[19:27] <daftykins> Nekrid: correct
[19:28] <Nekrid> i will try, thanks
[19:28] <lvleph> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/Nanph9MD
[19:28] <streulma> oh reisio, do you mean, I have to upgrade the kernel from mainline ppa ?
[19:28] <reisio> streulma: I meant I wanted to know what kernel version you already have ;)
[19:28] <linuxthefish> streulma stupid...
[19:29] <linuxthefish> don't help him!
[19:29] <streulma> reisio I'm not on Ubuntu now
[19:29] <streulma> what linuxthefish ?
[19:29] <daftykins> linuxthefish: we don't insult people here
[19:29] <linuxthefish> oh :/
[19:30] <lvleph> wilee-nilee: looks like a chmod 777 was in order
[19:31] <daftykins> argh chmodding to 777 is not wise >_<
[19:31] <linuxthefish> chmod 777 /* -R
[19:31] <lvleph> Well I wanted the partition to have that set of permissions
[19:31] <lvleph> linuxthefish: go troll somewhere else
[19:32] <linuxthefish> :\
[19:32] <daftykins> now now, leave the opping to the ops please
[19:32] <lvleph> then they should do it, seeing he has been insulting and trolling
[19:32] <linuxthefish> not insults man
[19:33] <lvleph> get off topic and someone is all over you
[19:33] <daftykins> stop it.
[19:33] <Nekrid> daftykins, thanks for the "chown", that's exactly what i wante
[19:33] <Nekrid> d
[19:33] <daftykins> Nekrid: np
[19:33] <lvleph> any wilee-nilee thanks for the help
[19:34] <guntbert> linuxthefish: don't *ever* post such commands in here!
[19:34] <oxiredo> hello; So, I was able to setup the linux as a server/gateway , internet is comming from ppp0 and it shares it to br0 (br0 contains WLAN1 atm). I have internet connection on my phone (wifi), but there are some pages that I can not acces. I will post some error from syslog
[19:35] <oxiredo> http://pastebin.com/WYNMDzAk
[19:35] <oxiredo> so the question is : what does " INPUT packet died: IN=ppp0 O..." means ?
[19:37] <ezra-s> oxiredo, forgive my ignorant question, have you made the fw rules yourself?
[19:38] <ezra-s> oxiredo, I'm asking to make sure those messages are not "made up" and for you to make sure they come from iptables instead of rules made to type that...
[19:39] <oxiredo> ezra-s: is a  webpage that makes a  firerule with iptables ( I will try t osearch that web page)
[19:40] <ezra-s> oxiredo, check with "iptables -L -n"
[19:42] <boggle_> I currently have ubuntu installed as the only bootable os on my laptop. I had windows 8 on one partition, but I've since deleted all the associated files and use the windows partition for media. I think just doing this without informing grub is causing my system to occaisionally hang on boot. To fix this (or rule it out as a cause) and upgrade to 13.04, I want to wipe out all the old partitions (leaving one partition per disk) and install ubuntu on my ssd, l
[19:42] <azerus> Hello everyone, I am having problems restricting access in pam.d to my system using require_membership_of in winbind.so (I'm trying to integrate Active Directory authentication into my ubuntu systems)
[19:42] <oxiredo> ezra-s: output is here http://pastebin.com/e9fGGdkF
[19:43] <oxiredo> I will also try to figure it out...
[19:43] <azerus> I basically want all users (local or remote) to use active directory credentials on my Windows DC, and restrict access per-machine to specific groups/users
[19:43] <ezra-s> oxiredo, there you go:     -->  LOG        all  --  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0            limit: avg 3/min burst 3 LOG flags 0 level 4 prefix "INPUT packet died: "
[19:44] <streulma> reisio, should I have to install the 3.9 kernel ?
[19:44] <ezra-s> it's a threshold
[19:44] <azerus> but it seems as if the require_membership_of option is completely ignored, can anyone help?
[19:44] <ikonia> streulma: why change the kernel ?
[19:45] <reisio> streulma: don't know
[19:45] <oxiredo> ezra-s: so if I increase that limit, I wil not have that strange work/no-work internet connection ?
[19:45] <ezra-s> oxiredo,  limit: avg 3/min <-- maybe this is exageratedly low
[19:46] <ezra-s> 3 per minute is too low
[19:46] <oxiredo> ezra-s: I am searching in that script  to see that line (3/min)
[19:47] <oxiredo> what should be a good x/min ?
[19:47] <azerus> Can anyone assist me with restricting access to my systems based on group through winbind?
[19:48] <manik> Hello.  Can anybody tell me how to increase the size of Menu in Lubuntu?
[19:48] <ezra-s> oxiredo, I am a bit rusted relating to firewall rules, I would research the meaning of the whole thing first -> limit: avg 3/min burst 3 LOG flags 0 level 4 prefix and also all rules in the chain related to it
[19:49] <ezra-s> try increasing it hugely for testing and if you get the desired effect, start reducing back, since those rules since to be placed in order for safety
[19:49] <oxiredo> ezra-s: tnx so mush for help
[19:49] <xrandr> how do i change the animation/effects settings in the unity desktop?
[19:49] <manik> nobody?
[19:50] <ezra-s> xrandr, ccsm I believe
[19:50] <guntbert> !patience | manik
[19:50] <manik> ubottu already have, but no use :)
[19:51] <manik> guntbert :) Know how to do that?
[19:51] <guntbert> manik: soryy, no (or I would have answered already)
[19:52] <manik> ah, okay. guntbert
[19:52] <boggle> Reinstall question: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3RgaUC21
[19:55]  * ezra-s runs
[19:56] <sWoozie> just installed ubuntu it rebooted now black screen
[19:56] <sWoozie> oh nm
[19:56] <sWoozie> im dumb
[19:56] <sWoozie> bye
[19:57] <guntbert> :)
[19:58] <guzzlefry> hello
[19:58] <manik> hi
[19:58] <guntbert> guzzlefry: welcome to the Ubuntu support channel. Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:58] <guzzlefry> Can anyone recommend some type of screen magnifier? I see kmag, but I'd rather not pull in QT and friends.
[19:59] <robcsi> Hi. can anyone recommend a keyboard layout changing application to use with i3wm?
[20:00] <reisio> robcsi: setxkbmap?
[20:00] <recurrence> guzzlefry: most OSs have screen magnifiers as part of their accessibility packages
[20:01] <robcsi> reisio: Yes, I have tried it, but it's a bit too cumbersome to use, since it does not display anything in the status bar
[20:01] <reisio> guzzlefry: get ccsm and turn on the zoom plugin
[20:01] <reisio> best magnifier you'll ever find on any OS
[20:02] <neptune> how to stop monitor going black
[20:02] <Guest30246> im using ubuntu 12.4
[20:02] <robcsi> reisio: I'd also like to have a list of the language layouts I have set up
[20:02] <reisio> Guest30246: /msg ubottu nomodeset
[20:02] <reisio> robcsi: ah
[20:02] <Guest30246> where abouts
[20:03] <guntbert> guzzlefry: "zoom" in system setings/Universal access   is not good enough?
[20:03] <Guest30246> in termina?
[20:03] <guzzlefry> guntbert: It might have been if I knew about it. :P
[20:03] <Guest30246> terminal*
[20:03] <guntbert> guzzlefry: :)
[20:04] <Guest30246> it does it when booting up too
[20:04] <e1genio> buonasera a tutti
[20:04] <Guest30246> idk about when logged in
[20:04] <guzzlefry> Well actually, I don't see it. I'm using xfce4. I'll try ccsm.
[20:04] <Guest30246> is it my display or the OS
[20:05] <Pici> !enter | Guest30246
[20:05] <guzzlefry> reisio: Were you referring to this paid application for ccsm?
[20:06] <Guest30246> the monitor goes black then it goes to sleep so i assume the OS is doing it
[20:06] <Guest30246> ok
[20:06] <reisio> guzzlefry: no, the compiz configurator
[20:06] <boringntp> i stopped ntp service with "sudo service ntp stop", and it stopped correctly; after i establish a new connection with the network manager, ntp gets started again though, how can i avoid that?
[20:07] <cebor> is it a know bug that "startup disk creator" sometimes crashes while copying a image to a usb drive ??
[20:07] <reisio> if it is, it'd be on launchpad.net
[20:08] <boringntp> i don't know if this is a bug or a feature, but it's certainly annoying
[20:08] <HAWiese> Reh
[20:08] <HAWiese> Reh
[20:09] <k1l> HAWiese: no need fo doulbe output from that scripts
[20:13] <linuxthefish> FoxDeveloper is dugi lol?
[20:13] <Guest30246> how to reboot
[20:14] <reisio> Guest30246: icon at top right
[20:14] <FoxDeveloper> linuxthefish yes
[20:14] <Guest30246> hmm I hit suspend now no buttons work when going back in
[20:15] <Guest30246> and there is nothing at the top now
[20:16] <boggle> Reinstall question: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3RgaUC21
[20:17] <nocturnal> I still dont see reboot button
[20:19] <reisio> boggle: gparted is on the normal install image, IIRC
[20:19] <reisio> boggle: should have all you need
[20:20] <igw3> i use a ubuntu 12lts but it does not completely shutdown when u initiatie the shutdown button i have tried all the shutdown commands but it justs does not shutdown..any ideas of what cud be wrong
[20:21] <johnrb> I have Ubuntu Server 13.04 installed with the ubuntu desktop installed obviously i have a connection but in the toolbar it tells me i do not have a connection, and when i click conn. info i get an error saying no valid active connections, can someone help me out, i assume i missing one or more packages
[20:21] <histo> igw3: is there anything displayed on screen when it hangs?
[20:22] <histo> johnrb: did you have server edition networking configured first?
[20:22] <k1l> johnrb: if you installed the desktop afterwards its the /etc/network/interfaces who did the networking in the first place. if so the NetworkManager doesnt do any networking for that devices
[20:23] <johnrb> yeyes i did
[20:23] <guntbert> johnrb: in that case I' just ignore network manager
[20:23] <nocturnal> is it ok just to press the reboot button on the tower
[20:23] <johnrb> ok can i get rid of that in the toolbar or can i make that handle the connection from now on either or is fine
[20:24] <reisio> nocturnal: it's not ideal, but should be alright
[20:24] <johnrb> lol i just hate the empty wifi icon
[20:24] <reisio> nocturnal: can you run 'shutdown -h now'?
[20:24] <reisio> nocturnal: or 'reboot'?
[20:24] <nocturnal> I dont see reboot in the top
[20:24] <k1l> johnrb: if you want to stay with your desktop on the server you can comment out the device entries in the /etc/network/interfaces
[20:24] <tomasm-> hi, any idea how I can keep networkmanager or whatever from changing my resolv.conf? I always need 127.0.0.1 first. I shut off dnsmasq but arent sure if theres a way to put the dns from the dhcp server into resolv.conf also.
[20:25] <johnrb> and then net-manager will handle it?
[20:25] <johnrb> ok great
[20:25] <k1l> johnrb: yes
[20:25] <johnrb> thanks guys
[20:26] <nocturnal> it wont corrupt anything hitting the reboot button on the tower as long as it isnt say installing updates
[20:26] <guntbert> johnrb: just leave   lo  active in there
[20:26] <johnrb> k
[20:27] <nocturnal> ill bbl
[20:28] <tomreyn> tomasm-: you can manually set the nameservers to use in your network manager connection profiles. so you could always set 127.0.0.1 there, and optionally other (fixed) nameservers.
[20:28] <igw3> histo: nothing
[20:29] <tomreyn> i guess the other option is not to use NM
[20:30] <tomasm-> tomreyn: well this is for wireless so I need the dns set from the dhcp client, so i can access the authentication webpage
[20:31] <tomreyn> tomasm-: wireless with captive portal? you could possibly have two profiles, one to use before captive portal authentication and one for afterwards.
[20:32] <tomasm-> tomreyn: how? no idea.
[20:32] <leony> hi
[20:33] <reisio> hi
[20:33] <tomreyn> tomasm-: actually an even easier is probably to to set a fixed hostname pointing to the fixed ip address (if so) of the captive portal in your /etc/hosts but use 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver in the NM profile.
[20:33] <igw3> reisio: hi
[20:34] <tomasm-> tomreyn: no this is public wireless in various networks.... the authentication page will vary by ip, depends
[20:35] <tomasm-> I have "127.0.0.1" prepended according to /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, but I would like dhcp to have it's dns servers put into /etc/resolv.conf also
[20:37] <tomasm-> I have 12.04, why does the dhcp based dns servers not get listed in resolv.conf? it only ever says 127.0.0.1
[20:40] <tomreyn> tomasm-: i dont' know how to do this. check the hook scripts in /etc/dhcp/*.d
[20:40] <histo> igw3: take a look at /var/log/syslog
[20:40] <igw3> histo: kk
[20:44] <Burrdy> Any Steam users online today?
[20:46] <k1l> Burrdy: i bet alot are. but with no specific question most will not answer
[20:46] <MercX> i am having some issues with visudo
[20:46] <MercX> is tehre somethign i need to restart to get it working?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Burrdy  tip: there's also #ubuntu-steam
[20:47] <guntbert> !details | MercX
[20:47] <MercX> 12.04 michael ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[20:47] <MercX> does not allow me to run programs with no password
[20:47] <Burrdy> yeah, but I'm not sure where to put Steam support related questions. either here, or in #ubuntu-steam
[20:48] <Burrdy> My game controller keeps giving me a hard time.
[20:48] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, I just recently received an kernel update and it shows I have two more updates in the form of: Generic Linux kernel headers and Generic Linux kernel image. On Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS yet for some reason it won't let me checkmark the Important Updates.
[20:49] <Burrdy> HomelessSanta:  Install those updates first, reboot, and then try installing the Important Updates again.
[20:49] <pmitros> I am running Ubuntu, but don't use Gnome/Unity/KDE/etc. Virtually all of the Ubuntu documentation references things like 'System -> Administration -> Disk Utility'. Is there any rational method to figure out what command line command that corresponds to?
[20:49] <HomelessSanta> Burrdy, Too late and before hand it wouldn't let me checkmark those updates previously.
[20:49] <Burrdy> huh?  that's weird.
[20:50] <HomelessSanta> I tried using sudo apt-get update thinking that would fix the issue in some way.
[20:50] <MercX> pmitros: probably not just 1 utility, rather a collection of utilities
[20:50] <genii> pmitros: Better yet just use the Ubuntu Server guide instead
[20:50] <Burrdy> have you tried 'sudo apt-get -V --fix-missing --force-yes --simulate dist-upgrade' ??
[20:50] <HomelessSanta> A more visual appearance of the issue: http://imgur.com/riPbmSp
[20:50] <k1l> HomelessSanta: to install new pakcages (which is required for new kernels) do apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:51] <pmitros> genii: Most of the documentation I look for isn't in a guide. It's on one of the many wikis.
[20:51] <HomelessSanta> k1l, Wouldn't that upgrade Ubuntu? Which I don't want to do.
[20:51] <k1l> HomelessSanta: no, that will not bring you to 12.10
[20:51] <HomelessSanta> Burrdy, Was that towards me?
[20:51] <MercX> pmitros: what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:51] <Burrdy> oh you're using the Quantal stack?
[20:51] <Burrdy> yeah
[20:51] <Burrdy> it was
[20:51] <k1l> !dist-upgrade | HomelessSanta
[20:52] <HomelessSanta> k1l, But I want to stay at 12.04.2 I'm lost.
[20:52] <k1l> HomelessSanta: it lets you stay at 12.04
[20:52] <k1l> *12.04.2
[20:52] <HomelessSanta>  HexChat: 2.9.5 ** OS: Linux 3.5.0-37-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "precise" 12.04 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.7GB, 94.2% free ** Disk: Total: 57.6GB, 84.9% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation D9840-60001 [Brio BA410 Motherboard] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet:
[20:52] <HomelessSanta>  JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 8m 1s **
[20:52] <HomelessSanta> Yes it's using the Quantal Stack on Ubuntu 12.04.2.
[20:53] <k1l> it will _not_ upgrade to 12.10 . the command to upgrade to 12.10 would be "do-release-upgrade".
[20:53] <pmitros> MercX: I am following the instruction here: "http://askubuntu.com/questions/16988/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-to-a-usb-key-without-using-startup-disk-creator" But I run into this issue all the time. I'd like to pull up one GUI utility from the Ubuntu GUI to configure something. 70% of the time I can find the name of the commandline by Googling. 30% of the time, I'm lost.
[20:53] <HomelessSanta> OK, I'll try it otherwise if it does I'll more or less reinstall.
[20:54] <Burrdy> By the way, has anyone solved the problem with Steam Big Picture Mode and the Mouse and game controllers not getting along with each other??  My mouse pointer freaks out every time I plugin my game controller.  Disabling the touchpad doesn't seem to do anything.
[20:54] <HomelessSanta> This is what I get when I used that command k1l: The following packages have been kept back:
[20:54] <HomelessSanta>   linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[20:54] <HomelessSanta> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[20:54] <pmitros> MercX: Specifically, I'm trying format a USB stick, and it's a bit finicky about how it is formatted. I'd like to just check all of the boxes the same way they have in the guide, rather than manually formatting it and having a small chance of messing up (since if I do it wrong, most likely the failure will be that it doesn't boot -- and then it's very hard to figure out which step it failed on)
[20:54] <Burrdy> how do you highlight someone's name again?  it's been a while since i used IRC
[20:55] <HomelessSanta> Burrdy, Use the tab key when you enter a few letters.
[20:55] <HomelessSanta> Depends on the IRC client you're using too.
[20:55] <Burrdy> XChat
[20:55] <HomelessSanta> Yes, tab key should work.
[20:55] <HomelessSanta> Type: Home than tab and see if it works.
[20:56] <k1l> HomelessSanta: if even a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" doesnt work its maybe because the depencies from that packages are not up to date (so far) on that mirror-server or there are still packages to be pushed to the server
[20:56] <Burrdy> HomelessSanta, testing
[20:56] <HomelessSanta> Burrdy, Works.
[20:56] <pmitros> MercX: I just found 'gnome-disks' by Googling (nth link; the name changed), but if there's some file somewhere that maps Ubuntu menus to commands, it would save me hours with how often this comes up.
[20:56] <Burrdy> yay! =D
[20:56] <HomelessSanta> k1l, I'll give that a try.
[20:56] <MercX> pmitros: if you are using know look at gparted to format and partition
[20:57] <Burrdy> HomelessSanta, do you play Steam games in Big Picture Mode?
[20:57] <HomelessSanta> k1l, To no luck the command still doesn't solve the issue oh boy what a day.
[20:57] <k1l> HomelessSanta: then just give the servers and devs some time to fix it
[20:57] <HomelessSanta> Burrdy, Never tried to my lack of SSD space keeps me from doing much only an 80GB SSD don't know why I opted for it.
[20:57] <HomelessSanta> k1l, No doubt will do.
[20:57] <MercX> pmitros: not sure if this would work but you could just dd the iso right to the usb stick?
[20:58] <HomelessSanta> Burrdy, Pure Ubuntu on this.
[20:58] <pmitros> MercX: I can figure out this specific instance of the problem. The general problem is I'd like to know how to go from a name in an Ubuntu menu to a filename I can use on the command line.
[20:58] <HomelessSanta> I'ma see if there is a workaround either way k1l just in case.
[20:58] <Burrdy> HomelessSanta, Mkay, no problem.  :-)
[20:58] <pmitros> MercX: It's probably in some config file, but I don't know which one.
[20:59] <k1l> HomelessSanta: i dont see why you just cant wait some time?
[20:59] <Burrdy> i'll check with #ubuntu-steam
[20:59] <HomelessSanta> k1l, I'll wait at the same time I got no issue waiting just might be a fix around I appreciate the help though. :)
[21:03] <Sten_> help
[21:03] <Sten_> hey guys, i ocaasionaly run "chmod o-x /"
[21:03] <Sten_> an dnow i am locked out
[21:03] <Sten_> please help me
[21:04] <bekks> Sten_: You broke your system, since you cant log in anymore.
[21:04] <Sten_> bekks: yea
[21:04] <bekks> That would be necessary to fix it.
[21:04] <Sten_> bekks: so no way?
[21:05] <imark> Sten_: do you know what you chmod'd
[21:05] <Sten_> imark: "chmod o-x /"
[21:05] <imark> Sten_: which file
[21:05] <lmnsqshr> well since you didn't do it recursively I suppose you only have to chmod the folders in / without their subdirectories, Sten_
[21:06] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: i can not login
[21:06] <lmnsqshr> Live-system?
[21:06] <lmnsqshr> grab a USB, copy a boot-iso on it and boot from it
[21:06] <HomelessSanta> Thanks a lot guys I am off. :)
[21:06] <Wodabe> on Ubuntu 13.4, is there a way to setup old graphic card like Radeon 3xxx HD?
[21:06] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: how do i mount the /?
[21:07] <Wodabe> I try to install it but it crash the installtion
[21:07] <lmnsqshr> in the live-environment just type mount /dev/sdaX /mnt
[21:08] <Sten_> lmnsqshr:
[21:08] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: standby please
[21:08] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, I will
[21:09] <Sten_> so if i do ls -All
[21:09] <Sten_> there should be no x at the end, right?
[21:09] <lmnsqshr> I guess it shouldn't
[21:09] <lmnsqshr> I don't use ubuntu
[21:11] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, my directories have following permissions:
[21:12] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, boot: drwxr-xr-x; dev: drwxr-xr-x; etc: drwxr-xr-x; home: drwxr-xr-x; lib: lrwxrwxrwx (<-- thats a symlink, you should just drwxr-xr-x it)
[21:12] <ShapeShi-> hi
[21:13] <Sten_> they all have -x at the end to make them explorable i guess
[21:13] <lmnsqshr> x is for executable
[21:13] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: the last x is exactly o-x that i did remove
[21:14] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, lost+found: drwx------; media drwxr-xr-x; mnt drwxr-xr-x; opt drwxr-xr-x; proc dr-xr-xr-x; root drwxr-x---; run drwxr-xr-x; sbin lrwxrwxrwx (is a symlink, do the same as the previous symlink)
[21:14] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, afk
[21:14] <robcsi> reisio: gxkb, if you're interested
[21:15] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, srv drwxr-xr-x; sys dr-xr-xr-x; tmp drwxr-xr-x; var drwxr-xr-x and that's it
[21:15] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[21:16] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, If you did o-x it overwrites every other permission of the file/directory so you need to set the correct permissions for each file in /
[21:17] <ShapeShifter499> so I have a vga to rca adapter and it doesn't seem to be recognized on any systems I have running ubuntu, on the netbook I tried it will make a buzzing noise on the tv when I attempt to "randr" a connection or use the "detect displays" option in system settings, any ideas?   could I force a vga output?
[21:20] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: it seems to be ok
[21:21] <Sten_> however still no boot
[21:22] <Enissay> I have a /tmp folder which contains a unique file. How can I get the name of that file or the full path ?
[21:22] <lmnsqshr> what error message are you getting?
[21:22] <lmnsqshr> Sten_,
[21:23] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: i have broken it all somehow
[21:23] <Sten_> shit
[21:23] <Sten_> lmnsqshr:
[21:23] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, yeah but what happens after grub?
[21:23] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, does grub even start?
[21:23] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: yes
[21:23] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: it shows me low graphics mode
[21:23] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, that's a good sign :) you didn't broke too much
[21:24] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: oh it seems that i fixed it
[21:24] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, well done ;)
[21:24] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: recovery mode - root - o+x /
[21:24] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: i do wonder why i am coming into recovery console so easily
[21:25] <lmnsqshr> I had no idea ubuntu came with a recovery console :D As I said, I'm not a ubuntu user
[21:27] <rixon> hi^^
[21:27] <gry> hi
[21:27] <rixon> i would like to ask where i can find nvidia geforce 9600 driver?
[21:27] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, I'm surprised you fixed a huge issue like that with a simple command
[21:28] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, many years ago I did the same mistake typing in "chmod -R 755 /".. There was absolutely NO way to fix that easily
[21:29] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: and then?
[21:29] <Sten_> km
[21:29] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: i did no recursive
[21:29] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, I reinstalled my system
[21:29] <OerHeks> You are lucky without -R
[21:29] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, yeah you're very lucky :D
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> rixon: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ,will install what you need
[21:31] <tomreyn> he just left
[21:31] <tomreyn> wanted to respond, too
[21:31] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: yea
[21:32] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: unlucky to click enter instead of shift
[21:34] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, oh so you typed in the command and wanted to press Shift but accidentally pressed Enter?
[21:34] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, why did you type in such 'dangerous' command in the first place?
[21:35] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: i needed to remove some ocaasionaly set +x
[21:36] <MercX> anyone know how to hit buttons in links
[21:36] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: well, recovery moe seems to be the night-saver for me
[21:36] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I am looking to buy a cheap but linux compatible thermal recipt printer. Can someone suggest something or a place where I should look for advice on this in irc ?
[21:37] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, I'm glad it worked so easily for you =)
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> vivekananda: openprinting.org
[21:38] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: well, i am thinking bout the securtiy now
[21:38] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: how it was that easy to break into the system
[21:38] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: however, physical accesss
[21:39] <tomreyn> MercX: if you are referring to the links text browser, you'd either user keyboard navigation or gpm
[21:40] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, you mean with the recovery thing?
[21:40] <tomreyn> * text-based web browser
[21:40] <MercX> I am using the keyboard however I cannot hit a button
[21:40] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: yea
[21:40] <tomreyn> MercX: i think you hit space
[21:40] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: is that a channel ?
[21:40] <[Gentoo]> MercX: you have to press enter and scroll through with up / down
[21:41] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, Perhaps you want to consider turning the recovery mode off
[21:41] <[Gentoo]> sometimes you have to scroll down the bottom to get back to the top
[21:41] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, but then again you couldn't solve such problems easily
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> vivekananda: its a site reporting if certain printers wotk etc
[21:41] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: true true
[21:41] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, you from germany?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> vivekananda: irc channels start with a hash
[21:41] <MercX> hmm, maybe it is a javascript button
[21:41] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: aye
[21:42] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: it is probably the single user kernel mode
[21:42] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, you shouldn't have access to a shell in the single user mode
[21:42] <lmnsqshr> without the root password
[21:43] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: well, in ubuntu root user has no password
[21:43] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: everything is managed via sudoers, the root itself can not log on
[21:44] <Sten_> but with physical access you can patch the /etc/shadow flie
[21:44] <Sten_> and hijack the system
[21:44] <Sten_> i need to encrypt my hdd
[21:44] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, with pyshical access you can do much more :p
[21:44] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, haha :D you sound paranoid :D
[21:44] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: important work, cia wants to have
[21:44] <Sten_> lmnsqshr: is there a true-crypt alternative?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> !encrypt
[21:45] <Sten_> or i can actually encrypt my home dir, can i do it now?
[21:45] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, http://www.netzwelt.de/alternative-zu/4243-truecrypt.html
[21:45] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: yep I know but I hoped there is an irc channel with similar name to get help
[21:45] <tomreyn> Sten_: you need to reinstall for full disk encryption
[21:46] <Sten_> i may need to encrypt only /homes/sten
[21:46] <bean> imo full disk encryption is overly paranoid
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> vivekananda: why do you need a channel? that lists all the printers contributed and if they work or not. How does a channel give anything over that well known compiled list exactly?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> bean: causes headaches too
[21:47] <bean> yep
[21:47] <tomreyn> bean: do you know anyone who got visted by buurglars?
[21:47] <bean> thats what prey, etc is for.
[21:47] <bean> they're still going to steal it
[21:47] <bean> most burglars are not smart enough to reset your password
[21:47] <bean> especially on linux
[21:48] <Sten_> well
[21:48] <tomreyn> pulling disks doesn't require you to be too smart.
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> for you maybe....
[21:48] <bean> you'd be surprised.
[21:48] <Sten_> http://thisguyhasmymacbook.tumblr.com/
[21:50] <Sten_> okay
[21:50] <Sten_> better go to sleep
[21:50] <Sten_> thanx for help lmnsqshr , tomreyn
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> bean: not worked on first line support have you
[21:51] <bean> ActionParsnip: heh, I've worked in a support a lot
[21:51] <bean> i've "seen some things"
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> bean: so you know the average user's grasp of IT. As we say "People are stupid"
[21:52] <bean> fact.
[21:52] <Jaccob> Hey there
[21:52] <Jaccob> What's the best way to install ATI drivers in Ubuntu?
[21:53] <Jaccob> My friend and I have a system with a ATI 4830 HD
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> jaccob: which ati gpu?
[21:53] <Jaccob> We plan to use the ATI APP SDK to use OpenCL on the GPU
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> jaccob: and the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:54] <Jaccob> Just a sec
[21:55] <lmnsqshr> Sten_, you're welcome
[21:55] <Sten_> just stopped shitting bricks...
[21:56] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I was looking for feedback from someone who has used one of those and also what to go for coz I have no clue what to buy and dont want to waste money :)
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> jaccob: you can run a terminal with ctrl + alt + t
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> vivekananda: thats what the site does.....
[21:58] <Jaccob> lol I know. I've worked on supercomputers at ORNL, I'm just no sys admin. Systems rebooting.
[22:00] <nocturnal> how do I stop firefox overlaying the close button with the title bar
[22:01] <Pudge> nocturnal: alt+f2 , then xkill
[22:01] <Pudge> nocturnal: use that x cursor to kill ur firefox
[22:02] <nocturnal> it still does it
[22:02] <Pudge> nocturnal: or u can type "killall firefox" in ur terminal
[22:02] <nocturnal> the website name is over the op of the close buttons
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal: hold ALT and you can drag from any point on the application.
[22:03] <nocturnal> I dont understand
[22:03] <Pudge> nocturnal: what do u want? can u take a screenshot of ur firefox?
[22:04] <nocturnal> what do I drag
[22:04] <nocturnal> ok
[22:04] <nocturnal> where it says google - mozilla firefox but close button keeps hiding
[22:04] <nocturnal> unless you mouseover
[22:05] <Nekrid> hey guys
[22:05] <Pudge> nocturnal: the close button for the tabs or for the firefox
[22:05] <nocturnal> for firefox
[22:05] <Pudge> nocturnal: show me ur snapshot
[22:05] <nocturnal> ok
[22:06] <Pudge> nocturnal: i cant be sure
[22:06] <nocturnal> just loggin in to irc on the other pc
[22:06] <Jaccob> quit
[22:06] <Jaccob> quit()
[22:06] <Jaccob> exit()
[22:06] <Nekrid> i've installed LAMP and i did chown to my user on the /var/www directoy so i could copy all my php projects there, but apache doesn't have permissions when i try to access http://localhost/somesite
[22:06] <Nekrid> i've tried chmod 777
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> jaccob: /quit
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: 777 is a really bad idea
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: just use: sudo cp files dest
[22:07] <Nekrid> well, this is not going to be a server, just a dev machine
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: or if you have a desktop OS: gksudo nautilus
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: still alarming you immediately reach for the worst solution in the book
[22:08] <Nekrid> :D
[22:08] <Nekrid> so, should i make root the owner again? what permissions should i give to /var/www ?
[22:08] <dtcrshr> Can anyone help me set up my microfone on my onboard alc883 ?
[22:09] <Nekrid> i've heard that i have to mess with the www-data user or something
[22:09] <dtcrshr> I can hear wind sounds, and if i beat up with my pen on the cpter case
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: yeah you'll be laughing when you realise anyone on the web can manipulate your data and put any file on your server. yeah really funny
[22:09] <OerHeks> Nekrid, you should have made your account member of www-data
[22:09] <dtcrshr> but no voice at all
[22:09] <nocturnal> how do I upload multiple images here
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal: use imageshack or similar
[22:10] <Nekrid> and how do i make that www-data group the owner again? or is root the owner? i'm confused
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: just use sudo cp and you can put data in the folder as you need. not hard
[22:10] <nocturnal_> http://share.pho.to/3QgSo
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: check using ls....
[22:11] <nocturnal_> http://pho.to/3QgUO
[22:11] <Pudge> nocturnal: upload it to imagebin.org
[22:11] <Nekrid> ActionParsnip, yeah, got that, thanks. now i'm trying to undo the chown that i did to my user
[22:11] <bekks> nocturnal_: And where exactly do you miss which button?
[22:11] <Pudge> nocturnal: ok i saw it
[22:11] <bekks> nocturnal_: (referring to the second image)
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal_: hover cursor in the top left. close min and max are there
[22:12] <Pudge> nocturnal: and take another snapshot when u have ur close button plw
[22:12] <Pudge> plz
[22:12] <nocturnal> can I have the title bar and the buttons in one bar
[22:12] <nocturnal> isnt the close button in image 2
[22:13] <bekks> nocturnal_: The close button is in image 2, in the upper left corner.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> nekrid: not sure what default is. could restore from backup
[22:13] <Nekrid> hmm, i'll try to google it
[22:13] <nocturnal> I just installed ubuntu
[22:13] <nocturnal> literally now
[22:13] <bluefox83> good job
[22:15] <Pudge> nocturnal: I can't find ur close button
[22:15] <nocturnal_> cant the title of the page be in the middle of the bar so it dont cover up the file menu etc
[22:16] <bekks> nocturnal_: When you move your mouse over the top bar, the title disappears and the file menu appears. Nothing hides it.
[22:16] <nocturnal_> ah I used alt adn dragged it away
[22:16] <nocturnal_> how to keep it like thta as default
[22:16] <Pudge> nocturnal: nocturnal I see, its unity, i forgot...
[22:17] <nocturnal_> now file is hidden still
[22:17] <nocturnal_> but the close buttons aint
[22:17] <Pudge> nocturnal: your current application's toolbar(which contains the close button) is always on the top of the screen,
[22:18] <nocturnal_> ok but cant I stop where it says google from hiding over 'file'', edit etc
[22:18] <Pudge> nocturnal: you have to be famillar with it, other wise, try other DE instead of unity
[22:18] <nocturnal_> im fine with the close button on the left
[22:18] <nocturnal_> how do I get de
[22:19] <Pudge> nocturnal: desktop environment , like KDE, gnome, LXDE, choose your favirate one
[22:20] <everydaylinuxuse> nocturnal give unity a month. it is well worth it
[22:20] <nocturnal_> hmm ok
[22:20] <everydaylinuxuse> you get used to the menu being the way it is.
[22:20] <everydaylinuxuse> searching for things in unity is faster than any other desktop i have used
[22:20] <nocturnal_> can I disable auto mazimize window
[22:20] <nocturnal_> it happnes when dragging the window
[22:21] <bekks> It only happens when you drag it too far to the top/bottom.
[22:21] <nocturnal_> ok
[22:21] <k1l> nocturnal: dont drag the windows to the edges or disable the feature
[22:22] <theslow1> what is the proper way to write an iso image to USB?
[22:22] <k1l> theslow1: use dd
[22:22] <RobertBColton> whosea fbi agent?
[22:22] <theslow1> k1l, thanks
[22:22] <RobertBColton> KindOne, im on to u
[22:25] <nocturnal_> how come the launcher bar dont always unhide
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> nocturnal_  system settings > appearance > behaviour
[22:28] <zykotick9> theslow1: k1l's suggestion will only work for hybrid ISOs (most aren't)
[22:29] <theslow1> zykotick9, how do i find out whether or not the ISO is hybrid?
[22:29] <nocturnal> i set the launcher to auto hide now it wont come back
[22:29] <zykotick9> theslow1: what is it?  if it's a recent ubuntu, it is.
[22:30] <theslow1> its a windows7 image from msdn
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> nocturnal  take your time to explore the new interface and get used to it, like we all did
[22:30] <k1l> theslow1: for that windows support you better ask in ##windows
[22:31] <zykotick9> theslow1: it isn't.  but i don't care about your issue... so good luck.
[22:31] <theslow1> k1l, zykotick9 thanks
[22:42] <BlackGriffen> Is there any way to disable the password length limit on the Remote Desktop Viewer Ubuntu application?
[22:44] <wiak> do someone know howto fix the battery criticly low on 99% battery bug? :P
[22:44] <wiak> its soo cool thats awesome :P
[22:45] <bluefox83> shiz, i was gonna tell blackgryphon that you can only have 8char passwds in vnc anyways
[22:45] <xavier23> HI… trying to create a blank file on ubuntu…… iM told that `/dev/zero` doesn't exist……. ???
[22:45] <bekks> xavier23: How do you try to create the file?
[22:45] <bluefox83> wiak: i have that issue no matter how much my battery is charged...it's not really that bad
[22:45] <xavier23> bekks: using `dd`
[22:46] <bluefox83> xavier23: what the heck!?! just 'touch filename'
[22:46] <jrib> xavier23: just "dd"?  That won't do much.
[22:46] <bekks> xavier23: How? Whats the exact command?
[22:46] <xavier23> bluefox83: needs to be a special format of file
[22:47] <xavier23> (for a swap file)
[22:47] <xavier23> `dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/fasthdd/swapfile.img bs=1024 count=1M`
[22:47] <bluefox83> xavier23: shouldn't matter...if all you are doing is creating it you can touch it to create it...until it has something *IN* it, then it's just any old file anyways
[22:47] <jrib> xavier23: what ubuntu version is this?  How did you install it?
[22:48] <xavier23> bluefox83: it does matter, because the file has to be a certain size
[22:48] <xavier23> jrib: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[22:48] <jrib> xavier23:  How did you install it?
[22:48] <dajepp> have a tech sue if anyone is up for it
[22:48] <jrib> !ask | dajepp
[22:48] <xavier23> jrib: not sure how it was installed… it was installed by someone else.
[22:49] <jrib> xavier23: ask that person why you don't have /dev/zero?
[22:49] <xavier23> jrib: suspect it was upgraded
[22:49] <xavier23> jrib: is there any quick way of getting /dev/zero back?
[22:49] <dajepp> have a dell laptop Latitude D620 that I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on.  I can't see any wiFi networks
[22:50] <xavier23> this is a super weird problem...lol
[22:50] <jrib> xavier23: I don't know.  But I would be curious as to what exactly the reason is it's not there.  So I'm not surprised later by similar issues.
[22:51] <jrib> xavier23: you can google "mknod", but I really suggest you investigate how this system was installed
[22:52] <bluefox83> xavier23: tried fallocate?
[22:53] <bluefox83> some googling sent me to a site that suggested fallocate in place of mkfile (since mkfile is from solaris or something...)
[22:53] <jrib> bluefox83: who brought up mkfile?
[22:53] <Sik> Trying to use apt-get tells me that /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and /var/lib/dpkg/lock are locked (even after rebooting), and that's effectively locking me out of apt-get and dpkg. Does anybody know how to unlock those files?
[22:53] <xavier23> jrib: thanks. mknod looks pretty hellish. bluefox83: i'll try it, thanx..
[22:54] <jrib> xavier23: yeah, speak with the person that installed your system.
[22:54] <bluefox83> jrib: it was in a forum
[22:54] <juansf111> hello, im new with ubuntu, just installed it and have some questions... Is there anyone who can help me?
[22:54] <bluefox83> also also mkfile will work in ubuntu O.o
[22:54] <jrib> !ask | juansf111
[22:54] <bluefox83> i think...holdon
[22:54] <juansf111> Sorry for my english btw
[22:55] <bluefox83> nope, i'm wrong...no mkfile
[22:55] <Pudge> 中国人？
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[22:55] <Pudge> lol
[22:55] <bluefox83> heh
[22:56] <bluefox83> was that kanji? O.o
[22:56] <dajepp> have a dell laptop Latitude D620 that I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on.  I can't see any wiFi networks. It worked fine with windows.  Any suggestions?
[22:56] <Sik> bluefox83: yes (kanji characters come from Chinese)
[22:56] <juansf111> Thank you very much. Here is the deal. I Just installe windows again in my pc (windows 7) . I have a 500gb  hard drive, so I created a partition of 250 gb while installing windows. After  finishing installing it, I Intalled Ubuntu. I used the option "Install Allongside windows", and it already finished...
[22:56] <bluefox83> Sik: but don't always mean the same things, i am told...
[22:56] <juansf111> My question is if it installed in the same partition than windows, or in the free space...
[22:57] <bluefox83> dajepp: uh...make sure there aren't any onboard buttons on the laptop that turn wifi off...
[22:57] <bluefox83> juansf111: in the free space
[22:58] <bluefox83> my wife's old latitude used to have a key combination that turned wifi on, that stupid fn button and another one along the top...you might want to look for that dajepp
[22:59] <Pudge> juansf111: u can check it by checking your disk usage
[22:59] <bluefox83> my mother-in-law called me up crying her eyes out one time because she couldn't get wifi to work on her latitude (also running ubuntu) and i had to go over to fix it...took me 4 seconds to figure out and fix >.>
[23:00] <namora> any way I can perform an offline kernel upgrade? offline as in, without booting the OS. from Windows/OS X by mounting the linux partition, in other words.
[23:00] <bluefox83> her neighbor who swore was a "tech genius, and computer professional" couldn't figure it out after 2 hours though...lol
[23:00] <harveyb144> Any wired nic gurus around?
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> bluefox83  that's nice, but keep the channel clear for support, please
[23:00] <bluefox83> namora: why would you want to do that!?!
[23:00] <namora> bluefox83: can't boot Ubuntu
[23:01] <bluefox83> namora: why not? i seem to have missed that O.o
[23:01] <namora> namora: can't even get to GRUB to boot it.
[23:01] <Pudge> namora: what u need is to fix your grub, not the kernel
[23:01] <namora> bluefox83: oh that was the first thing I wrote in IRC xD
[23:01] <namora> Pudge: well, i don't really want grub at all
[23:01] <bluefox83> namora: lol, sorry i'm in irssi and things go by fast >.>
[23:01] <namora> basically I'm trying to set up an EFISTUB boot
[23:01] <bluefox83> namora: well then you will have to install lilo?
[23:02] <Pudge> namora: in that case u have to edit your windows's boot.ini
[23:02] <bluefox83> O.o
[23:02] <namora> the problem is EFISTUB support only landed in kernel 3.3 and i'm on precise (3.2)
[23:02] <namora> Pudge: I'm actually on OS X
[23:02] <namora> or a mac, rather.
[23:02] <dajepp_> Anyone know how to make my dell wireless card work with Ubuntu 13.04?
[23:02] <bluefox83> well, what does your mac use as the boot loader? O.o
[23:02] <Pudge> namora: so lilo is ur choice
[23:03] <bluefox83> dajepp: did you look for the wifi button like i suggested?
[23:03] <namora> Pudge: EFISTUB is my choice. I want to boot direct from EFI.
[23:03] <namora> bluefox83: rEFInd
[23:03] <Pudge> namora: ofcoz u can, but u have to add ur ubuntu boot information into it
[23:03] <namora> but it's a boot manager, not really a boot loader
[23:04] <namora> Pudge: I can boot the kernel directly from the EFI without a dedicated boot loader
[23:04] <namora> the problem is I need to upgrade the kernel to do so, and I can't boot it at all right now because I borked my partition scheme
[23:05] <Kalel> Greetings..
[23:05] <gordonjcp> namora: I thoroughly recommend refind ;-)
[23:05] <nocturnal_> got no sound
[23:05] <namora> gordonjcp: i love rEFInd.  following this: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/
[23:05] <nocturnal_> im using external speakers
[23:05] <Kalel> I had installed the new kernel irc, later, the new amd beta driver. Well, The unity doesn't start now!
[23:06] <harveyb144> 12.04 old gateway with two nic's. Both work in windoze, eth0 says cable is disconnected. Anyone have any ideas what to try?
[23:06] <reisio> did you try reconnecting the cable?
[23:06] <gordonjcp> namora: it should work okay.  I used exactly that page to help me set up 12.10 on a Macbook 3,1
[23:07] <Sik> Repeating: trying to use apt-get tells me that /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and /var/lib/dpkg/lock are locked (even after rebooting), and that's effectively locking me out of apt-get and dpkg. Does anybody know how to unlock those files?
[23:07] <harveyb144> Cable never disconnected! Windoze it works, 12.04 says its disconnected.
[23:07] <NanduX> Sik are you using 'sudo apt-get...'?
[23:07] <Pudge> namora: It can boot ur ubuntu, just need some config
[23:07] <reisio> harveyb144: what does lspci | grep -i net say you've got?
[23:07] <nocturnal_> I got no sound
[23:07] <nocturnal_> what to do
[23:08] <namora> gordonjcp: oh really? that's excellent. did you/do you use FileVault?
[23:08] <namora> gordonjcp: I'm trying to get the whole thing set up with full disk encryption
[23:08] <gordonjcp> namora: no, what's filevault?
[23:08] <Kalel> That is the new installed kernel 3.11.0-031100rc6-generic
[23:08] <namora> gordonjcp: OS X's built in full-disk encryption system
[23:08] <Sik> NanduX: ...I should have known better ._.' (for some reason I thought it was being locked out because the update manager halted halfway through an update)
[23:09] <Pudge> nocturnal_: open ur terminal, try command "alsamixer" and see what u get
[23:09] <harveyb144> reisio eth0 (bad one) says Macronix, .. MX987x5 (rev 25)..
[23:09] <Sik> Also, Anthy is broken, I can't type Japanese characters without the system locking up. First updating the packages to make sure that doesn't fix it.
[23:09] <gordonjcp> namora: no, I think full disk encryption is the most apocalyptically retarded idea in the whole field of computing
[23:09] <Pudge> gordonjcp: lol
[23:10] <gordonjcp> namora: it's slow and it's guaranteed to lose you some data
[23:10] <namora> gordonjcp: are you serious?
[23:10] <namora> the performance hit is 0-5%
[23:10] <gordonjcp> you couldn't pay me to cripple my disk performance with that pointless cack
[23:10] <reisio> harveyb144: anything else?
[23:10] <namora> it has absolutely no perceptible performance hit
[23:10] <gordonjcp> namora: yup, that makes it unusable
[23:11] <gordonjcp> disks are already far too slow
[23:11] <namora> gordonjcp: well I can tell you I see absolutely zero performance hit running it on my SSD
[23:11] <reisio> disks keep getting faster, and processors have specific instruction sets for encryption these days
[23:11] <namora> because of AES-NI
[23:11] <moondog> gordonjcp: good for removable backup drives though no?
[23:11] <gordonjcp> moondog: nope
[23:11] <namora> exactly, reisio.
[23:11] <gordonjcp> moondog: never, ever back up onto an encrypted drive
[23:11] <reisio> plus, it doesn't really matter if you actually need encryption
[23:11] <Pudge> gordonjcp: u can hate it but u can't deny other's work
[23:11] <reisio> any hit will be worth it
[23:11] <nocturnal_> now what
[23:11] <moondog> gordonjcp: why?
[23:12] <nocturnal_> there no volumes that are below half
[23:12] <gordonjcp> moondog: well, do, but back up onto an unencrypted drive too
[23:12] <Pudge> nocturnal_: see some bars that can modify ur volume?
[23:12] <gordonjcp> moondog: if you have a single bad sector on the disk, if it begins to fail, you've lost *everything*
[23:12] <harveyb144> reisio 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 25) (end of line: next line describes eth1 card )
[23:12] <moondog> interesting
[23:12] <moondog> thanks for the info
[23:12] <reisio> harveyb144: and eth1 is irrelevant for some reason?
[23:13] <namora> first of all, no you wouldn't. and second of all, even if it did break completely, you'd just restore from a backup
[23:13] <nocturnal_> help
[23:13] <nocturnal_> the bars dont seem to do aynthing
[23:13] <nocturnal_> anything*
[23:13] <harveyb144> reisio eth1 works just fine; trying to get eth0 working as well (two networks here)
[23:13] <moondog> I was just thinking storing my external hard drive backup in my desk at work was a tad risky without encryption
[23:14] <nocturnal_> I can highlight it like text
[23:14] <gordonjcp> namora: yes, you would, because the entire volume has to be readable to decrypt it
[23:14] <gordonjcp> namora: and if the drive is beginning to fail, it won't be entirely readable
[23:14] <namora> gordonjcp: i don't think you understand how AES-XTS works, which is the specific implementation i'm referring to
[23:14] <gordonjcp> the whole thing is pointless, anyway
[23:14] <gordonjcp> no-one cares enough about you to want to read your disk
[23:14] <moondog> heh
[23:14] <reisio> harveyb144: lspci -nn | grep -i net
[23:15] <namora> well that's a completely separate point
[23:15] <nocturnal_> it was at 47 perfect the master was
[23:15] <nocturnal_> I moved it up still no sound
[23:15] <bluefox83> hey, those of you that were trying to help me move data from one drive to another last night...i found a laptop hard drive that has enough space...problem is there is no appropriate type of power plug for it!
[23:15] <daftykins> is it molex or SATA?
[23:15] <reisio> bluefox83: use your desktop
[23:16] <bluefox83> reisio: that's what i mean. i can't plug it into the desktop because there's no power plugin...it's some wierd thing that looks a little like the sata connector, but it's like an inch and a half long O.o
[23:16] <bluefox83> i don't have anything in my desktop that hooks to that :(
[23:16] <reisio> bluefox83: plug the drive that's already in the laptop into the desktop
[23:16] <geomyidae_> Can I remotely wake up the kscreenlocker from an SSH session? thanks.
[23:17] <reisio> geomyidae_: probably, see if it has a man page
[23:17] <bluefox83> reisio: ...yeah i just said i can't do that
[23:17] <reisio> bluefox83: why not?
[23:17] <bluefox83> sata connector wont power the drive by itself will it?
[23:17] <harveyb144> reisio 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 [10d9:0531] (rev 25)   (then line for eth0)
[23:17] <reisio> bluefox83: doesn't need to
[23:17] <reisio> bluefox83: you have power cables in the desktop already
[23:17] <bluefox83> there aren't any cables on the laptop
[23:18] <bluefox83> those cables wont fit the drive...i checked D:
[23:18] <reisio> the laptop has nothing to do with connecting a drive to the desktop :)
[23:18] <bluefox83> i know that
[23:18] <bluefox83> the drive is weird
[23:18] <reisio> bluefox83: so they're pata and the desktop is sata?
[23:18] <bluefox83> uh..i guess so O.o
[23:18] <bluefox83> holdon let me grab the drive real fast
[23:19] <reisio> harveyb144: presumably you meant 'then line for ethONE' ?
[23:19] <nocturnal_> ok fixed it
[23:20] <harveyb144> reisio yep, sorry..
[23:20] <reisio> harveyb144: lsmod | grep -i tulip
[23:20] <geomyidae_> reisio: I literally can't figure out what to man for. They've removed kscreensaver and kscreenlover. I think it's kxsrun and kxsconfig but I haven't found anything useful related to either of those yet.
[23:21] <bluefox83> reisio: correct me if i'm wrong here, but an sata connector doesn't also power the drive...right?
[23:21] <harveyb144> reisio tulip  52515 0
[23:21] <reisio> geomyidae_: you could try DISPLAY=:0 xscreensaver-command -deactivate
[23:21] <reisio> bluefox83: not IME :)
[23:21] <reisio> bluefox83: but it needn't, because your desktop has power
[23:21] <reisio> and so does your laptop
[23:22]  * bluefox83 hasn't got the foggiest notion what that mean
[23:22] <reisio> in my experience
[23:22] <bluefox83> reisio: yes, but i can't hook it into both...because that laptop is retarded in it's construction >.>
[23:22] <reisio> you can't hook what into both of what?
[23:23] <reisio> harveyb144: ok, I'm guessing it's just a simple misconfiguration then
[23:23] <bluefox83> i can't hook the drive into the laptop for power and the desktop for data
[23:23] <bluefox83> wont fit :(
[23:23] <bluefox83> it's a hitachi drive made for gateway...
[23:24] <harveyb144> reisio any tips greatly appreciated. i have tried setting static ip and setting ipv6 to "ignore" so far.
[23:24] <bekks> bluefox83: what does "made for gateway" mean?
[23:24] <bluefox83> nevermind >.>
[23:24] <bluefox83> this is a whole lotta dancing around for nothing...
[23:25] <reisio> bluefox83: it's probably just a shell, if anything
[23:25] <bluefox83> reisio: yeah...don't worry about it, just believe me when i say it's not physically feasable
[23:26] <reisio> I don't, but I believe you won't bother :)
[23:26] <reisio> did you abort the network transfer?
[23:26] <bluefox83> i have another drive that it's feasible with but it's only 80gb :(
[23:27] <bluefox83> reisio: no...i keep getting errors about invalid argument. but most of the files are transfering
[23:27] <bluefox83> still >.>
[23:27] <reisio> oh, using what command?
[23:27] <bluefox83> drag and freaking drop over smb >.>
[23:27] <bluefox83> because rsync kept failing completely
[23:28] <reisio> :/
[23:28] <bluefox83> so yeah...this is getting nuts
[23:28] <reisio> rsync stopped running?
[23:28] <bluefox83> i should find a bunch of old 80g drives and just copy what i can over >.>
[23:28] <bluefox83> uh..no it failed
[23:28] <reisio> failed?
[23:29] <reisio> just go to the store and get the most-capacity-for-price external eSATA/USB3/2 hard drive you can, you'll need the storage eventually
[23:29] <bluefox83> yep that's what i said..
[23:29] <reisio> so the process stopped?
[23:29] <bluefox83> yeah
[23:29] <bluefox83> it said something about it not being allowed
[23:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> IdleOne: Wanna do something more?
[23:30] <usr13> bluefox83: Here is the way it works.  You describe the problem(s) you encounter in enough detail, and someone here can usually come up with a solution.
[23:30] <Sik> Rebooted, I still can't use Anthy. Ctrl+Space does nothing, switching to Anthy from the menu does nothing either. If I select it twice it does select Anthy, but it behaves like normal input instead of Japanese input. Help?
[23:31] <bluefox83> usr13: yeah i've been here plenty of times...i also know that sometimes those solutions don't work...which is what happened to me
[23:31] <reisio> I wouldn't use a GUI to transfer 230GB if you paid me
[23:31] <bluefox83> well i'm picking and choosing instead of just cramming the whole thing
[23:32] <usr13> bluefox83: If all you can say is that it is hopeless and there is no solution, then it *is* hopless.
[23:32]  * daftykins puts £100 in front of reisio 
[23:32] <reisio> daftykins: thanks :)
[23:32] <daftykins> no no, you have to copy 230GB with a GUI first.
[23:32] <reisio> daftykins: oh, pass
[23:32] <bluefox83> usr13: thanks, get that from a fortune cookie?
[23:32] <daftykins> XD
[23:33] <usr13> bluefox83: Take a good hard look at my first comment.
[23:33] <ShapeShifter499> I came across the "ubuntu is spyware" argument today, how do you guys feel about this?
[23:33] <bluefox83> ok, i'll ask this about using rsync...i'm moving data from my server to my laptop, i use rsync from my laptop right?
[23:34] <ShapeShifter499> actually I'll post that question in #ubuntu-discuss
[23:34] <harveyb144> reisio in network tools received packets count is incrementing, ipv4 shows 0.0.0.0 in "IP Information" but manually entered address if I go to "configure".. ideas?
[23:34] <xangua> ShapeShifter499: i deactivate it :P
[23:35] <reisio> harveyb144: nope; #networking maybe
[23:36] <harveyb144> reisio Thanks for the help.
[23:37] <xyz123> user and group permission question; i have a group called dev which is assigned as a secondary group to a user xyz; ... I also have a /media/development directory which is root.dev with 77 perm. ; now as a xyz user when i try to create directories in /media/development directory i get permission denied, i know that the user xyz belongs to the dev grouop which has full permissions. what am i doing wrong?
[23:37] <xyz123> 77 perm / 775
[23:37] <delinquentme> soo I've just downloaded a jquery ui codebase  and I cant seem to delete it even with "sudo rm "
[23:37] <delinquentme> ideas?
[23:38] <reisio> delinquentme: what does rm say?
[23:38] <delinquentme> rm: cannot remove `js/libs/jquery-ui-1.10.2/': Permission denied
[23:38] <delinquentme> :P
[23:38] <xyz123> heh
[23:38] <delinquentme> its like linux thinks its windows
[23:38] <reisio> delinquentme: what does sudo rm say?
[23:39]  * delinquentme facepalms
[23:39] <Pudge> ShapeShifter499: "spy" means did something and hide itself that u can't find it
[23:39] <delinquentme> sudo rm -rf js/libs/jquery-ui-1.10.2
[23:39] <delinquentme> no wait.. im still getting denied!
[23:39] <delinquentme> @_@
[23:39] <usr13> xyz123:  ls -l /media |grep development  #What does it say?
[23:40] <Pudge> ShapeShifter499: but linux/ubuntu is opensource, how can it hide itself
[23:41] <reisio> delinquentme: what's it say exactly?
[23:41] <usr13> xyz123: or just ls -ld /media/development
[23:42] <usr13> xyz123: Show us.....
[23:42] <delinquentme> Oh ... weird
[23:42] <delinquentme> so i used $ rm -rf js/libs/jquery-ui-1.10.2/
[23:42] <delinquentme> without sudo
[23:42] <delinquentme> and it delete it
[23:42] <FloodBot1> delinquentme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <delinquentme> deleted**
[23:42] <Sik> Repeating: I can't use Anthy. Ctrl+Space does nothing, switching to Anthy from the menu does nothing either. If I select it twice it does select Anthy, but it behaves like normal input instead of Japanese input. Any ideas to fix it?
[23:42] <reisio> delinquentme: so maybe you confused the error about not being able to rm directories without -r, with the permissions error
[23:43] <delinquentme> reisio, i used $ sudo rm -rf path/to/dir
[23:43] <ShapeShifter499> Pudge, lol
[23:43] <reisio> dunno about that, but it's academic now :)
[23:44] <usr13> xyz123: grep xyz /etc/group  #What does that say?
[23:46] <phillyj> hi, i'm installing a new printer and it needs new drivers; Can I leave the old drivers (HPLIP) or have to remove them?
[23:47] <Pudge> phillyj: just keep it if no conflit
[23:47] <xyz123> usr13: dev:x:1020:xyz
[23:48] <phillyj> alright, thx Pudge
[23:48] <xyz123> usr13: drwxrwxr-x 3 root dev 4096 Aug 17 15:38 /media/development
[23:49] <rscnt> hi
[23:49] <rscnt> how is this
[23:49] <xyz123> this is nice
[23:49] <rscnt> this is
[23:49] <xyz123> nice
[23:49] <rscnt> a lot of people here
[23:49] <AbitChubby> is there a chat channel for ubuntu on this ?
[23:50] <xyz123> AbitChubby: and its nice
[23:50] <rscnt> oh
[23:50] <rscnt> so
[23:50] <rscnt> all people here
[23:50] <rscnt> are using ubuntu?
[23:50] <AbitChubby> n o
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> AbitChubby, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:51] <rscnt> oh
[23:51] <rscnt> ok
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> for off topic stuff, discussions etc.
[23:51] <xyz123> usr13: slow with the response due to mucking about..... do please respond on your analysis :)
[23:51] <rscnt> bye
[23:51] <rscnt> sorry
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> no worrie-
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> :/
[23:51] <AbitChubby> right so this is support only :)
[23:52] <AbitChubby> ?
[23:54] <xyz123> its support as long as someone responds to you :)
[23:54] <xyz123> ...technically
[23:56] <usr13> xyz123: If you are logged in as xyz, you should be able to mkdir /media/development/what-ever  #If what you say is true, I do not know why you cant. Maybe I'm missing something... if so, someone please let us know.
[23:57] <roasted> is anybody well versed in autofs? I can't seem to get mine working. The share comes up as blank when I navigate to what's in auto.master.
[23:58] <din> roasted: yes.
[23:58] <usr13> xyz123: What is behind this mount point, /media/development?  (What kind of device is it?)
[23:59] <usr13> xyz123: mount
[23:59] <usr13> xyz123: mount  |grep media
[23:59] <xyz123> usr13: its my secondary hd (sdb)