| cub | I've run a lot of tests, but not much success for the screen reader support so far. | 08:11 |
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| * cub broke his saucy :( | 09:07 | |
| knome | oi! don't break it! | 09:07 |
| cub | stupid. I installed Gnome to try out Orca. Then removed Gnome again but something else probably was removed as well. | 09:08 |
| cub | Well, it's not entirely broken. Just won't start xmir again. :P and well, other stuff I haven't noticed yet | 09:08 |
| * cub thought adding Orca would be easy since it's in the repos | 09:29 | |
| knome | my experience about accessibility stuff is that it's never easy, and unfortunately, rarely works | 09:29 |
| cub | it seems so. Perhaps better to get Vinux to include the low-latency kernel instead. ;) | 09:30 |
| cub | the Ubuntu Accessibility team seems to have ceased to exist. At least they are very hard to reach. | 09:31 |
| knome | heh | 09:31 |
| xequence | cub: There's one guy who does some work on that | 09:31 |
| xequence | he used to be a ubuntu studio team member | 09:31 |
| cub | yes Luke. | 09:31 |
| xequence | yes | 09:31 |
| xequence | themuso is his nickname | 09:31 |
| knome | yes, that | 09:32 |
| xequence | you can find him on #pulseaudio too | 09:32 |
| cub | I tried to ping him on IRC. Now I emailed the list, but if no answer there I will try to email him directly. | 09:32 |
| xequence | He can be a bit slow at answering sometimes :) | 09:32 |
| cub | there is too many factors so far. Is it not working because I'm doing something wrong, or is it a xfce issue, or a saucy issue, or an Orca issue, or all of the above? :P | 09:33 |
| xequence | Did you try a clean install of regular UBuntu? | 09:34 |
| cub | I've tried different version of US, Xubuntu, Ubuntu and Debian Wheezy with Xfce | 09:34 |
| xequence | this stuff should work from a VM, no? | 09:34 |
| cub | xequence, yes, it somewhat worked but didn't read things correct. | 09:34 |
| xequence | easier to manage a VM. take a snapshot, and you can roll back changes | 09:34 |
| cub | yes, last test I have been running in VM. But since it didn't work at first I tried on a real installation just to rule out if it was a VM issue | 09:35 |
| xequence | ah, if it's not fully working, then it's probably not a good idea then | 09:35 |
| knome | xmir won't run in a VM afaik | 09:35 |
| cub | best results so far: Ubuntu Studio 12.04 and Debian Wheezy. | 09:35 |
| cub | no the xmir I run on my eee pc installation. | 09:36 |
| knome | :) | 09:36 |
| cub | well, did, until I broke it. :P | 09:36 |
| knome | haha | 09:36 |
| cub | the common thing with US 12.04 and Debian Wheezy is Xfce 4.8. That might be it. | 09:36 |
| cub | how does it work with Feature Freeze? Could one get an app included and still work out the kinks with it until release? | 09:37 |
| knome | sure, bug fixes will be allowed after FF | 09:38 |
| * cub also wonders if he is doing a lot of work only to provide accessibility for one person... | 09:38 | |
| cub | Is there any documentation on how I go about to get like Orca icluded? | 09:39 |
| xequence | cub: we just add it to our seed file | 09:40 |
| xequence | cub: seed files include all the applications that get preinstalled on the ISO | 09:41 |
| xequence | cub: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.saucy | 09:42 |
| cub | xequence, but someone has to do some magic to get it into the seed file? | 09:42 |
| xequence | cub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Seeds | 09:42 |
| cub | ah tnx | 09:43 |
| xequence | you get the source. add/remove one item, make a commit | 09:43 |
| xequence | in your case, you'll need to upload to your own branch and make a merge request | 09:43 |
| xequence | bzr push lp:~<username>/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.saucy | 09:45 |
| xequence | I think that should work | 09:45 |
| xequence | then make a merge request | 09:45 |
| xequence | cub: One commit per change. Once you're done, push the code | 09:46 |
| xequence | cub: I should add you to the contributors team | 09:47 |
| cub | I'll read up and give it a go. | 09:47 |
| xequence | cub: What's your LP name? | 09:48 |
| cub | xequence, jimmy-sjolund | 09:48 |
| cub | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/cub | 09:48 |
| xequence | cub: I added you to two teams, ~ubuntustudio, which is a user team, and ~ubuntustudio-contributors, which is like junior devs | 09:52 |
| cub | Nice, thank you. | 09:53 |
| xequence | cub: I added a seed branch for contributors | 09:55 |
| cub | ok | 09:55 |
| xequence | cub: so, if you didn't already get the source, you could get this one instead | 09:55 |
| xequence | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-contributors | 09:55 |
| xequence | bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-contributors/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.saucy | 09:56 |
| xequence | then when you push, just do: bzr push | 09:56 |
| xequence | Just e | 09:56 |
| xequence | sorry | 09:56 |
| xequence | easier to work that way, I think | 09:56 |
| xequence | since all contributors and devs will have access to those branches | 09:57 |
| cub | we'll see what I'll manage to set up then. :) | 09:57 |
| xequence | cub: In order to push code, you need to have your ssh key both in LP and your ~/.ssh folder - usually id_rsa | 10:01 |
| xequence | well, the public keay goes to LP | 10:01 |
| xequence | which is id_rsa.pub | 10:02 |
| xequence | you could also do: bzr login-launchpad jimmys-sjolund, but it's not strictly needed | 10:02 |
| xequence | never ever publish the private key of course (id_rsa) | 10:03 |
| cub | yeah, it was part of the devel setup | 10:04 |
| xequence | yes, but just reminding just in case :) | 10:05 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, still at DebConf? | 11:28 |
| xequence | smartboyhw: Last day was saturday | 11:34 |
| xequence | I'm still in Switzerland though | 11:35 |
| xequence | going back tomorrow | 11:35 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, oh | 11:52 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, so, what's your experience? | 11:52 |
| xequence | smartboyhw: I got a good idea of how things work | 12:13 |
| xequence | that was my first reason to go | 12:13 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, great:) | 12:13 |
| xequence | the other to get involved with the Debian Multimedia Blend | 12:14 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, yeah, I hope to see your great creation soon:P | 12:14 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, eh, we need to start 12.04.3 testing soon | 12:14 |
| cub | smartboyhw, is the release this week? | 12:17 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yes | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | Thursday | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | We can get it out easily | 12:18 |
| cub | how can we test it? | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | cub, just test the live session and install the ISO | 12:19 |
| smartboyhw | And report it at iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 12:19 |
| smartboyhw | it = test results | 12:19 |
| smartboyhw | Check out wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough | 12:19 |
| * smartboyhw is sort of an expert in ISO testing:P | 12:20 | |
| cub | I'm not. I can't even find the iso | 12:20 |
| smartboyhw | cub, I will send an email to devel and users mailing list tmr | 12:20 |
| smartboyhw | That will teach you 1. where to get it | 12:20 |
| smartboyhw | 2. How | 12:20 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 12:20 |
| cub | but in reality, two days of testing seem a bit short. :P | 12:21 |
| smartboyhw | cub, well, yeah, but that's ALWAYS the case. | 12:21 |
| smartboyhw | That's why Ubuntu is relatively buggier than others:P | 12:21 |
| smartboyhw | (All Linux distros are buggy, but some are more buggy than others -- Maxim) | 12:21 |
| cub | that's not good. We wouldn't want to break things for LTS users (or any user for that matter) | 12:23 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yeah | 12:49 |
| smartboyhw | Unfortunately, that's what happens. | 12:49 |
| cub | How come? Because the release was not available until late? Or because everyone has been too busy to look at it? | 12:51 |
| DarkEra | not that i can do anything but what's up with the failing iso's since the last couple of days | 13:00 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra, package problems. | 13:01 |
| smartboyhw | Actually, conflicts | 13:01 |
| DarkEra | that much? | 13:01 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra, yes, frankly | 13:02 |
| DarkEra | 6 days in a row isn't good | 13:03 |
| smartboyhw | DarkEra, because we haven't got time to fix it... | 13:03 |
| cub | Isn't there a limit on how many days in a row it can go on before the iso is dropped or something? | 13:03 |
| smartboyhw | cub, DarkEra: No... | 13:04 |
| smartboyhw | I'm asking the Ubuntu Release Team for help | 13:04 |
| cub | No? I thought I remember someone saying that when the build was failing the last time | 13:04 |
| smartboyhw | cub, well if there's a problem with it before release then it won't be released | 13:05 |
| smartboyhw | But, we can still solve it well before Beta 1. | 13:06 |
| DarkEra | smartboyhw, i see | 13:11 |
| DarkEra | got to go, might be back later again | 13:11 |
| xequence | smartboyhw: the problem with our ISOs is most probably the libav packages | 13:38 |
| xequence | new ones should appear there shortly | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, great:) | 13:38 |
| xequence | there's libav and libav-extra. one of them is the wrong version, I think | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | xequence, thank you:) | 13:40 |
| madeinkobaia | Hi all : ) | 23:02 |
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