[00:11] <skellat> No, LP Bug #1213745 is not amusing
[00:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1213745 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in WorkWindow::SetPluginParent()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213745
[00:11]  * skellat is now running Saucy on his netbook
[10:23] <ochosi> micahg: could you add gmusicbrowser1.1.10 to Saucy? (also isn't in debian unstable yet, although the release was in march)
[13:35] <knome> elfy, re: archived testcases... i still can't delete any ;)
[13:35] <knome> elfy, i need to get in touch with balloons to do that
[13:35] <smartboyhw> knome, :O
[13:35] <knome> (that's stupid, i know)
[13:35] <elfy> ok - thanks knome 
[13:36] <knome> i'll talk with him and file a bug if it's really not possible for admins.
[13:36] <elfy> well - possibly best to not get me started on the stupidity inherent in the qa systems
[13:36] <knome> at *least* you should be able to unlink a testcase from a testsuite...
[13:37] <knome> it's not stupid, the whole system is just that level of complexity that it is hard to take every situation into account
[13:37] <knome> and it doesn't help that they're making it (justifiably so) testing-area-agnostic
[13:38] <elfy> knome: the inherent stupidity is that almost anything you want to do with a testcase - has to be done twice
[13:39] <elfy> why can't they set it up so that qa.com works with the code everyone writes for a testcase
[13:41] <knome> elfy, ah, well that's because balloons wants to make sure the testcases are community-editable and that there is a place where you can easily search them
[13:42] <elfy> maybe so - but it just adds work 
[13:42] <knome> elfy, if they were only on the trackers, there would need to be other ways to submit new testcases
[13:42] <elfy> that's not my point
[13:42] <knome> sure... but most of it is once-only
[13:42] <knome> once we get most of the testcases up, we only need to add one or two, or do changes
[13:42] <elfy> until we start getting bugs
[13:43] <knome> of course
[13:43] <knome> but hey, if the testcases wasn't a project in LP... one couldn't file bugs :)
[13:43] <elfy> imagine changing them in the tracker - that's nightmare waiting to pounce
[13:43] <knome> or do merge proposals with the changes
[13:43] <knome> as it is with any bugs ;)
[13:44] <elfy> so you're then having to copy the tracker testcase somewhere - then make the changes that someone already did once - then copy it back
[13:44] <knome> at least they are filed in a central place and there are good tools to work on them and mark their status :)
[13:44] <knome> lol, nope
[13:44] <knome> the workflow is LP -> tracker
[13:44] <knome> if we want a change to a testcase, it should be ideally done in LP first
[13:44] <elfy> yea - agreed - it is just disjointed
[13:44] <elfy> knome: yes - but the change STILL has to be done twice :)
[13:44] <knome> then when an admin merges the changes to the tracker, (s)he should make the changes
[13:45] <knome> sure
[13:45] <elfy> once via LP then again in tracker
[13:45] <knome> i agree there could be a cron script that did it for us
[13:45] <smartboyhw> knome, that's what I do at least...
[13:45] <smartboyhw> I will want a cron script;P
[13:45] <elfy> but anyway - it's not worth the time to discuss it imo
[13:45] <knome> i think balloons has something, but doesn't look like it's working; i think the mess we've had a few times is because of that script ;)
[13:45] <knome> elfy, maybe not...
[13:46] <knome> but yeah, the site is running on drupal with some SQL backend (i assume), would be just writing a post-push script that udpates the database with the newly pushed data
[13:47] <knome> that would depend on humans doing things right, eg. not guessing ID numbers
[13:48] <elfy> lol
[14:19] <elfy> knome: am I right in thinking we're looking at and checking the slideshow at the moment?
[14:20] <elfy> perhaps we could look at this if we are - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xboard/+bug/1213933
[14:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1213933 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Slideshow recommends trying out environment which isn't present" [Undecided,New]
[15:00] <lderan> mmm interesting bug
[15:00] <elfy> a bit pointless perhaps - but if we're looking at the moment
[15:00] <elfy> I'd not have seen it to be honest if they'd not posted on the forum complaining
[17:03] <knome> micahg, ping
[17:03] <knome> skellat, allö
[17:10] <knome> i need an uploader. micahg, mr_pouit.
[17:10] <knome> any others who have pushing rights? :)
[17:12] <knome> bbl.
[20:49] <lderan> knome, do i need to resubmit when i update my branch of the slideshow with the fallback or will it automagically be included?
[22:28] <knome> lderan, i don't know
[22:28] <lderan> okay
[23:49] <lderan> knome, think it has added it to the MP automatically :)