[00:00] Hello, I need to know how reset the xubuntu's panel xfce [00:02] rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ and alt+f2 xfce4-panel -r [00:04] thanks! [00:15] heh, yeah. I try my damnedest to keep native, makes for a cleaner setup, I think. [00:27] how do I change the avatar image? http://imagebin.org/268062 [00:48] thank you, I found out [00:50] .face, yep. [00:50] yes [00:51] In the next version, we're trying to get a nice UI to do it (mugshot) [00:52] 14.04 [01:00] xfwm4 and all the graphical applications I had running crashed [01:00] how would i go about getting it running again? [01:01] Silver_Arrow: tty "sudo reboot" ;) [01:01] ... [01:04] (xfwm44:13953): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [01:04] Silver_Arrow: what crashed, and why/how? maybe you have a larger system issue going on [01:05] !xhangs [01:05] If the GUI hangs after logging in, use to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority [01:07] minecraft was running, ate a bunch of cpu time, and when I came back the screen was black displaying some stuff [01:10] Silver_Arrow: the "some stuff" would be nice to see.. did you reboot? [01:11] cannot remove `.Xauthority': No such file or directory [01:11] cannot remove `.ICEauthority': No such file or directory [01:11] Scanning for Btrfs file systems [01:12] Starting GNUstep distributed object mapper: gdomap [01:13] *Stopping; *Starting LightDM display manager; *Stopping LightDM display manager [01:13] Silver_Arrow: i was thinking more about the error message from the crash.. [01:14] Silver_Arrow: have you rebooted? [01:14] No error message displayed [01:14] no [01:14] I came back and that's what was on the screen [01:14] Silver_Arrow: friend, im talking about when you said "the screen was black displaying stuff".. i would like to know what that was.. is that the text after the (assumed) java crash? [01:15] the screen was like a shell, displaying the text I started to type out [01:15] Silver_Arrow: when? after the crash? [01:15] Yes, when I came back into the room [01:16] Silver_Arrow: after the crash? or a reboot? [01:16] I've not rebooted [01:16] Silver_Arrow: the room has *nothing* to do with the machine [01:16] after it crashed when I was away from the machine [01:16] Silver_Arrow: reboot.. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [07:48] Heyo, just installed 13.04 on my netbook, loving every minute of it, but have a minor bug. In thunar and the places panel plugin the standard user-dirs are not shown. [07:49] I'm not sure if that's a bug [07:50] I thnk you can just add stuff to the left panel yourself [07:50] at your own discretion [07:54] pmjdebruijn: yes, with the gtk-bookmarks, but used to be the contents of the usr-dirs.dir file was added. [07:57] ah ok [07:57] ntzrmtthihu777: well stick around then, maybe someone else knows [07:58] pmjdebruijn: will do, lol. [08:14] ntzrmtthihu777: that's not a bug [08:14] gah [08:14] heh [08:14] anyway, for everyone else who's reading this chan, that's the expected behavior [08:15] xfce devs decided not to enforce these user-dirs on users anymore, but you can still manually add them if you want [08:22] * pmjdebruijn guessed as much [08:22] btw [08:23] does anybody know how the xmir thing is going for xubuntu? [08:23] I recall a test ISO being released [08:26] pmjdebruijn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/GPUTesting have some results. http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/ have the xubuntu specific information and ISOs [08:29] cub: thanks [08:32] I hate when that happens :/ [08:32] can't install xubuntu :( [08:33] damn you lenovo + EFI BIOS :( [08:33] baizon: sorry to hear that :/ [08:33] aren't the newer versions of xubuntu EFI ready? [08:34] yes they are, but this bios is really crappy [08:35] one of the first efi bios [08:35] you even have to set the boot order specially to get wifi working [08:37] I need to install on a pc today . There anywhere I can snag a copy of xubuntu 12.04.3 ? [08:38] Pkunk^: google "get xubuntu", one of the first links ;) [08:38] sucks that if i install 12.04.2 it'll ask me to update in 3 days [08:38] Pkunk^: oh, .3 [08:38] that's ok..it's just a small update [08:38] :) [08:40] Pkunk^: updates are an ongoing thing, if you install 12.04.3 it'll ask you to update almost immediately [08:40] since there have been many updates since 12.04.2 [08:40] the version numbers are just a stamp applied to the ISOs [08:44] question: how common/easy to find are 8cm dvds? I ask because now that *buntu has broke the cd size limit those are no longer good enough, and quite frankly I don't want to waste 3/4 of a full dvd, lol. [08:46] ntzrmtthihu777, install with a usb stick instead of dvd? [08:47] cub: good idea, but I juggle different spins too much for that to be healthy for a usb XD [08:47] ntzrmtthihu777: 8cm dvds are probably more expensive than 12cm dvds [08:47] Hello there) [08:48] izzat so? doing research right now. because they are more specialized/less common, eh? [08:48] 8cm dvds tend to be sold for camcorder purposes [08:48] that said, 2GB usb sticks are silly cheap these days [08:49] hmm, that is a good point. [08:49] Anyone to answer some stupid Xubuntu question? ) [08:49] !ask xubuntu297 [08:49] just ask and see if anybody knows [08:49] Tnx [08:49] lol. [08:53] holy crap http://is.gd/YLaGkU [08:54] 128gb usb stick [08:55] Enyone was lucky to change keyboard layout during setup and first logon on 13.04? They did great job in localization installer for my native language (non-english), ok. But why not to let me choose latin (english) layout while typing WiFi key and initial user password O_O You are not able to set any password other than in language your system is installing in, what a..?? And then, during the very first log on, this stupid machin [08:57] pmjdebruijn: on another note, a full 1gb would be enough for current isos, no? its just that cds are about .8gb that's the kicker, yeah? [08:57] CD [08:57] CD's are 700MB [08:57] yeah, just shy of what's needed now. [08:57] I'd buy 2GB drives, as 1GB aren't cheaper anymore, and it'll give you more leeway for the future [08:57] So, in the setup stage you set native layout password, but will not be able to log on afterwards cause there would be english only )))) [08:58] something 2GB drives aren't cheaper than 4GB ones these days [08:58] sometimes* [08:58] Do not ever buy huge flash sticks, by the way. They are crap. [08:59] because? [08:59] Anyone to answer? O=) [08:59] !offtopic [08:59] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [08:59] there's little reasony to think they are much worse than normal ones :) [08:59] knome: fair enough [08:59] xubuntu297, answer what? [09:00] Tech question posted above/ [09:00] xubuntu297, your message got cut at "stupid machin" [09:01] The bigger the flash, the more likely it will fail. Service engeneering experience. [09:03] xubuntu297, i'd file a bug about that against "ubiquity", the installer [09:05] Xubuntu 13.04 can not be used in native laguages other than english, at least in my case. GUI installer does not allow me to choose EN keymap, the language and layout are set automatically, so I can not set WIFI key or pass in english) [09:06] pmjdebruijn: yes , but i can avoid 200+ mb of xorg and kernel updates by installing 12.04.3 directly [09:06] The case I do not want the whole system in english, only the keymap during setup [09:07] xubuntu297, that should be possible. [09:08] I thought so too, but it's not. I'll try to reinstall again and press F3, or set the previous LTS version (( [09:09] xubuntu297, i'd say the workaround is not to use the english layout at installation time [09:09] There is no way to change language at logon and setup windows, the layout is fixed somehow [09:09] Pkunk^: if you're patient, yes :) [09:09] xubuntu297, you're able to do all the changes once installed, though [09:10] Yeah, but I'm unable to log on ))) [09:10] The password is native, but logon window does not allow to choose any other language ) [09:10] xubuntu297, so is the *real* bug: there is no keymap chooser in the xubuntu login screen? [09:11] In short, someone did a bit poor localization at this code part. [09:11] the login screen is still WIP [09:11] ochosi, ^ [09:12] Chooser is present, but a bunch of english languages there, no native I've selected during setup. [09:13] xubuntu297, what's the native language then? [09:13] And, on the other hand, no chooser in the installer, language is set == language of the whole system you choose. [09:14] Russian in this case) [09:14] wonder if it has something to do with the fact that we're unable to ship that language in the ISO (iirc) [09:16] Pardon me, do you mean there is no russian in xubuntu burned on the CDs ? [09:16] Because there is one in ISO I got here. [09:17] xubuntu297, then we have it. we didn't use to have it before we went oversized for CD. [09:17] i think... :) [09:17] but if it's there, then good. that's good information, helps debug [09:17] In other words, it's experimental? ) [09:18] well, the login screen is still WIP, but it is tested for sure [09:18] it just might not have all the *features* we wanted, yet :) [09:20] Well, is there any trick to change layout during setup, now I'm reinstalling xubuntu 13.04 x64 again, and no, there still no common way to change the language (( [09:21] doesn't the installer ask you for your keyboard layout? [09:21] because it should, and it normally does [09:21] No, it does not, that's the point) [09:21] It does ask me the language I want the whole system. [09:21] that's a problem then... [09:22] at the beginning, yes [09:22] then later on it should ask for your location and keyboard layout [09:22] around where you create your user [09:22] hi there, I recently installed xubuntu 12.04 LTS (alternate) on my dinosaur laptop Pentium II with Cirrus Logic sound card. It seems that all drivers (cs46xx) are installed properly but I have no sound and PulseAudio crashes every 10 seconds and retries "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait...". A reinstallation of xubuntu did also not resolve the issue. What can I do now? [09:22] Oh, dear, I've just clicked aside the window and there is no installer at all))) [09:23] Just blank desktop O_o [09:25] Got it. There is a bug with the scroll wheel (actually it's not a wheel, but the right side of the touchpad): it hides your window (changing workspaces or something, I presume) [09:26] that's not a bug. [09:27] it's a feature :) [09:27] you can disable that in the window manager settings [09:27] it's called window rollup IIRC [09:27] pmjdebruijn, that's a different feature... :) [09:28] You can not use the managere cause it's not installed yet, i presume )) [09:29] xubuntu297, by the way, if you'd be more comfortable with russian support, you can have that as well :) see the next link: [09:29] !ru | xubuntu297 [09:29] xubuntu297: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [09:31] Thanks, but the same situation would be vivid for other non-en users, so I'll stick here too )) [09:32] sure [09:33] Please, is there anybody who knows how to resolve a crashing PulseAudio? [09:37] Well, I've chosen the EN keyboard so I hope I'll be able to add more layouts once I log in. Interesting enough, when was choosing the user name, it was english keyboard too, despite the fact the russian was chosen. [09:40] xubuntu297: so you've installed a language pack but can't select it at the greeter? [09:40] Does xubuntu use different I\O managers? When I was using gentoo, there were a lot of them to choose, here are zero. [09:41] define "i/o manager"? [09:42] Software analog for SATA data quering (NCQ) [09:42] heh [09:42] that has nothing to do with a distro [09:42] that's inherent to the linux kernel [09:43] they're called IO Schedulers [09:43] cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler [09:52] so any info on thunar 1.6.3 not showing the user-dirs.dirs folders? [09:53] as discussed earlier, it was dropped by design [09:54] pmjdebruijn: was no earlier comment to that effect, you just said you did not think it was a bug. and if that is the case that's a really dumb design :/ [09:54] hi [09:54] ntzrmtthihu777: that's just your opinion [09:54] is there anyone can help me to configure nvidia driver ? [09:55] Please, is there anybody who knows how to resolve a crashing PulseAudio? [09:55] 10:15 < ochosi> xfce devs decided not to enforce these user-dirs on users anymore, but you can still manually add them if you want [09:55] ntzrmtthihu777: there was, you just dropped of irc I guess [09:55] ah, so it is. musta lost connection for a bit :/ [09:56] dumb, though. they are more or less standard everywhere, cross-distro and os, even :/ [09:56] no they aren't, not cross os at all [09:57] lots of lightweight desktops/window managers don't do xdg at all [09:57] pmjdebruijn: so you're telling me that most major os's and distros don't have some form of default user folders? [09:57] ntzrmtthihu777: sure they do [09:57] the major ones do [09:57] but there is lots that don't [09:57] and it's not the same naming scheme for all [09:58] in the end it's mostly a preference [09:58] calling it "dumb" really isn't helping [09:58] meh, matters not. its gone, and I can't do anything about it. just like gnome2... [09:58] ntzrmtthihu777: you can just revert the patch and rebuild the sources [09:58] it's open source remember, you can do anything you like... [09:59] ntzrmtthihu777: the dirs are still supported, just not enforced by default, not sure what part of that seems "dumb" to you [09:59] ochosi: then how do you get them back in thunar and the places menu without using gtk-bookmarks? [10:00] actually nevermind. [10:01] ntzrmtthihu777: my point being, using derogatory terms to people who do stuff for free for you, really doesn't help anybody [10:03] yeah, and not only that, making something the user's choice is only dumb if you assume all users are dumb [10:03] well, making products is all about making choices for users [10:03] if you don't you just have a toolbox... not a product :) [10:04] xfce is a project, not a product though [10:04] but someone will always disagree [10:04] xubuntu might be a product to some extent [10:04] ochosi: a desktop is generally a product these days :) [10:04] but sure [10:04] it's not well defined :) [10:05] product sounds very markety, but everyone is pursueing that for their own interest [10:06] (as you already mentioned implicitely) [10:06] right [10:06] lack of a dictator doesn't mean there's no product :) [10:07] :) [10:07] anyway, this is the support-channel, we can always continue in #xfce-philosophy [10:08] man I can't wait for the next lts release. I usually stick with them, but I got a new dell latitude xt2 and felt I should deck it out with the best :) [10:08] ochosi: :) [10:09] now if broadcom would get off their duffs and produce a linux driver for the fingerprint scanner I'll be golden [10:16] Please, is there anybody who knows how to resolve a crashing PulseAudio? [10:21] zenzinho: you can give ppl more hints as to what error-msgs you get? [10:27] hi ochosi, first there is just no sound then if I click on volume control->settings pulseaudio crashes and tries to reconnect to PulseAudio. After reconnecting I can see the device listed (audio headset?) and then after some seconds it crashes again ... [10:28] I can open alsamixer and set the volume levels but this makes no difference. [10:29] A reinstallation of alsa and also a reinstallation of xubuntu did not help. [10:32] And I checked if the device is installed: [10:32] 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) [10:32] Subsystem: Mitac Device 6003 [10:32] Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5 [10:32] Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] [10:32] Memory at e9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] [10:32] Capabilities: [10:32] Kernel driver in use: snd_cs46xx [10:32] Kernel modules: snd-cs46xx [10:32] !pastebin zenzinho [10:32] !pastebin | zenzinho [10:32] zenzinho: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:33] ok, sorry for this! [10:38] zenzinho: you could try to re-start pulseaudio from the commandline and see what output you get [10:38] zenzinho: sudo service pulseaudio start [10:40] I get no message - so I presume that at least something is working!? [10:45] but still - if I open audio settings I get the message in the window: "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..." then it shows up the audio device and some dropdown box with "analog headset" selected and some controls. After 1 second the window get cleared and it posts again "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..." ... [10:59] zenzinho: sorry, you probably need a PA expert (you could check a pulseaudio support chan) and i gotta go [11:00] ok, and thank you for your support! [11:47] hi guys [11:47] I just added new virtual host to my box [11:47] and everything is working fine [11:47] but when I am submitting a form [11:48] there is no post data comming through [11:48] can anyone help me, please [11:48] ? [11:48] ?? [11:48] ??? [11:49] I'm going to guess you need one of the Apache support channels. [11:50] yup [11:50] do you know any maybe? [11:51] DevilItself: You might start with #apachefriends [11:53] join #debian-apach [12:57] hello, just setup xfce4-terminal as a dropdown, got it mostly transparent, but have one configuration issue to settle. Is there a way to completely remove the border? there is still a faint outline, even launched with the --hide-borders flag. [12:57] example: http://imagebin.org/268096 [12:58] ntzrmtthihu777, play with the terminal settings ... [12:59] ntzrmtthihu777: that must be added by your window manager -- no outline here [13:01] ntzrmtthihu777, nice look. :) [13:25] TheSheep: dang. I am using the default for xfce... just thought that maybe someone would know the particulars [13:26] cub: thanks, lol. I was using tilda, but once I learned the new one in xubuntu could do it I jumped at the chance to simplify my machine with one less package ;) === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [14:59] hi all [15:00] hi wanchope11 [15:00] are you in need of some help :) [15:00] does anyone know, why don't I see the applications installed in the menu? [15:01] yes, this is a not important question, but I have installed Gparted, and Disks-Utility and I don't see them in the menu [15:01] but I can launch them through the console [15:02] gparted is in system settings i think [15:02] yes, it should be there, but it is not :-) [15:04] it may appear after you've rebooted, it didn't appear t first for me either [15:05] at* [15:07] no, they does not appear anymore [15:07] it is weird [15:21] wanchope11: gparted doesn't put its icon in the menu automatically, use system settigns > main menu to > accessories to check it off [15:22] gparted shows up in my settings manager (xubuntu here) never has shown up in my menu you could try a menu editor maybe to add it? [15:23] oh this is #xubuntu not #ubuntu i confused the channels for a moment lol [15:23] use alacarte to add gparted to your meny [15:23] menu* [15:24] i can add manually the icons to the menu. RightClick on MenuIcon -> Properties -> Edit Menu [15:25] there the menu can be editable, adding and removing the corresponding application icons. [15:25] I thought it was automatically [15:25] :-) [15:25] wanchope11: if it isn't showing in settings manager - system then that is a bug if it's a new version you have [15:58] thanks guys [17:19] hello, i have an interesting problem with my xubuntu (13.04) on lenovo y580 ( nvidia gtx 660m with bumblebee). I have an external monitor, connected via hdmi, which worked just fine for some weeks, but now after disconnecting the screen, and connecting it again, external monitor is not detected. I have faced the similar problem one again, and only complete reinstall hepled. I don't want to do this again, you know any solutions? [17:19] similar problem once before* [17:57] j category5 [19:37] Me gustaria saber como instalar la aplicacion para tener la transmision de radiofrecuencia activada,...no se me conecta la wifi. [19:38] !es [19:38] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [19:39] Muchas gracias [19:40] He intentado instalar varios comandos pero no se como funciona el programa y si, es verdad todo esta en ingles y no entiendo nada,.. [20:03] buonasera a tutti [20:03] !it [20:03] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) === Guest17154 is now known as everydaylinuxuse