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kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1206371] kwin is not starting: cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206371 (by Chupligin Sergey)03:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1206371 in Kubuntu PPA "kwin is not starting: cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1" [High,Confirmed]03:31
Tm_TRiddell: great thing with donations (:05:19
smartboyhwAnyone here doing calligra?06:11
ScottKYou apparently.  Please not there are unreleased changes in bzr.06:13
smartboyhwScottK, again:( Alright...06:14
smartboyhwkubotu: newversion calligra 2.7.206:17
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121425606:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1214256 in calligra (Ubuntu) "Please update calligra to 2.7.2" [Undecided,New]06:17
ScottKI think Riddell already did one of those.  Check.06:18
smartboyhwScottK, you mean, calligra?06:18
smartboyhwMarking as dup then06:19
shadeslayertsdgeos: o_o07:12
tsdgeos?07:12
shadeslayerkwin not starting07:12
smartboyhwo_o07:13
tsdgeosah07:13
shadeslayerworks fine here on saucy07:13
tsdgeosshadeslayer: just read the log ;-P07:14
shadeslayerlast message I see is <tsdgeos> Riddell: ↑↑↑↑07:15
shadeslayerwhat a lazy Tuesday morning07:16
tsdgeosah you left07:16
Peace-mmm after upgrade i have a problem with digital clock widget07:17
Peace-some one can try to add the widget to a panel ?07:17
tsdgeosshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/~tsdgeos/pe0c7bcb1/07:17
Peace-it seems unknow now to plasma07:17
shadeslayerah libhybris07:18
shadeslayerfunsies07:18
shadeslayerPeace-: wfm07:19
Peace-mm07:19
Peace-shadeslayer: tx07:20
smartboyhw!search07:58
ubottuSearch factoids for term: !search <term>07:58
soeegood morning07:58
smartboyhwshadeslayer, how to find a file in a package using ubottu?07:59
smartboyhwI forgotten07:59
shadeslayer!find kdelibs5.so07:59
ubottuPackage/file kdelibs5.so does not exist in raring07:59
smartboyhw!find ucred.h08:00
ubottuPackage/file ucred.h does not exist in raring08:00
smartboyhw!find system/ucred.h08:00
ubottuPackage/file system/ucred.h does not exist in raring08:00
smartboyhwEh hum08:00
smartboyhw!find ucred.h saucy08:01
ubottuPackage/file ucred.h does not exist in saucy08:01
smartboyhwkubotu: newversion calligra-l10n 2.7.208:47
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/121429808:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1214298 in calligra-l10n (Ubuntu) "Please update calligra-l10n to 2.7.2" [Undecided,New]08:47
smartboyhwAnyone can review calligra and calligra-l10n existing in smartboyhw/packaging-staging-1 PPA?09:02
shadeslayeryofel: uhm, did we not take into account the HWE stack for 4.11?09:12
shadeslayerbecause installing the HWE stack removes kde-window-manager on precise09:12
shadeslayer( with 4.11 )09:13
yofelI saw that, and I don't know why it happens :/09:14
smartboyhw:/09:14
shadeslayer:S09:14
smartboyhwshadeslayer, the kernel stack or the graphics stack?09:15
shadeslayersmartboyhw: both09:15
shadeslayerwell09:15
smartboyhwBOTH!?09:15
shadeslayerkernel doesn't remove kde-window-manager09:15
yofelsmartboyhw: you can't seperate those09:15
* smartboyhw thought it's xorg09:15
yofelbecause running mixed X and kernel stacks is unsupported09:15
smartboyhwyofel, oh really?09:15
yofelyes09:15
* smartboyhw checks anyway09:15
yofelit'll be mesa that's the problem09:16
yofelthat's the only thing kwin uses09:16
shadeslayeryes09:16
shadeslayerI think it depends on the regular mesa package09:16
shadeslayerand that conflicts with the HWE one09:16
shadeslayerand then apt decides to remove kde-window-manager to solve it09:17
shadeslayerhm09:17
shadeslayeryofel: doesn't happen on regular precise09:17
shadeslayeroh09:17
shadeslayerthats why09:17
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/pbb42ec51/09:18
shadeslayerlines 4 through 1109:18
yofellooks correct to me09:18
shadeslayerno, I mean that's from 4.8.509:19
shadeslayerand someone manually added the deps?09:19
yofelno, mesa shlibs does that I think09:19
yofelor something like that09:19
yofelwait, libgl1 is virtual I think09:20
shadeslayerI am completely unsure how this works :S09:22
yofelevery mesa package provides libgl1, so you can switch them out as you want09:24
yofelthe only thing you need to work out is apt's resolver behaviour09:24
shadeslayerso why is it that our PPA packages don't depend on the lts packages09:25
yofelbecause the lts package have the exact same shlibs depends as the archive packages09:25
yofelso nothing's different09:25
* Riddell gets onto plasma-mediacentre 1.1 for the announcement09:30
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/p974ec6dd/ is what I have on my precise machine09:33
shadeslayerline 13709:34
yofelshadeslayer: what exactly are you installing?09:37
shadeslayerlinux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring ?09:37
yofeladd at least egl to that09:42
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/p2e68d6e4/09:43
shadeslayerI think it's because might not be virtual?09:44
shadeslayerkubuntu@kubuntu:~$ apt-cache depends kde-window-manager | grep libgles209:45
shadeslayer |Depends: libgles2-mesa09:45
shadeslayer  Depends: <libgles2>09:45
shadeslayer    libgles2-mesa09:45
shadeslayer    libgles2-mesa-lts-quantal09:45
shadeslayer    libgles2-mesa-lts-raring09:45
shadeslayerargh09:45
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/pf4eea78b/09:45
shadeslayer*because  libgles2-mesa might not be virtual09:45
shadeslayeryeah09:46
shadeslayerthis line works09:46
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shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/p2a27cf42/09:47
shadeslayercan you try that in your VM >09:48
shadeslayer?09:48
yofeldon't have it here, will try it later09:57
shadeslayerokay10:01
* shadeslayer is trying in his own VM before trying out on the desktop10:01
jmuxshadeslayer: I've seen this update problem to. Installing the missing lts-raring dependencies fixes the problem.10:01
shadeslayerbut it'll take a good hour10:01
shadeslayerjmux: I see, cool, then I can relpy on the devel mailing list10:02
jmuxIf I just install with lts-raring packages I don't have any problems.10:02
shadeslayeroh10:02
jmuxJust can't remember which packages were actually missing, as my repository just contains the lts-raring packages.10:03
shadeslayersudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring libegl1-mesa-lts-raring libgles2-mesa-lts-raring10:03
shadeslayers/raring/quantal/10:03
kubotushadeslayer meant: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring libegl1-mesa-lts-raring libgles2-mesa-lts-raring"10:03
shadeslayerbleh, stops at the first instance10:03
shadeslayeranyway, jmux, try that ^^ with quantal instead of raring10:04
shadeslayerseems to work here http://paste.kde.org/p24d28a1c/10:08
jmuxshadeslayer: I can't really try the update. My client installation already contains the lts-raring HWE and KDE 4.11 packages on precise.10:14
shadeslayerah :)10:14
shadeslayercool :)10:14
jmuxThis probably just works, because my repository doesn't contain any alternative packages.10:15
jmuxAnd many thanks from Munich / LiMux for those Precise KDE 4.11 packages - saved us a lot of work!10:15
shadeslayermaybe :)10:16
shadeslayerjmux: mostly thanks to yofel :D10:16
* smartboyhw asks for shadeslayer and yofel to review calligra.10:17
shadeslayerlink pklz10:17
shadeslayer*plz10:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's to review?10:18
smartboyhwRiddell, 2.7.2 duh10:18
smartboyhw:P10:18
smartboyhwIn smartboyhw/packaging-staging-110:18
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy < do I need to review all nm packages?10:19
shadeslayersmartboyhw: l10n is FTBFS10:20
smartboyhwshadeslayer, :O10:21
smartboyhwOh, removed language10:21
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah please, packaging as well as funationality10:24
Riddell!testers | plasma-mediacentre in saucy and kubuntu-ppa/backports for raring10:28
ubottuplasma-mediacentre in saucy and kubuntu-ppa/backports for raring: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.10:28
shadeslayerRiddell: probably going to take time since I have to setup a saucy VM10:31
shadeslayeror hmm10:31
* Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.110:32
Riddellshadeslayer: mm you're not on saucy?10:32
shadeslayerI am10:32
shadeslayeryeah, I'll just add the ppa10:33
Riddellso just install them locally10:33
Riddellit won't breaking anything :)10:33
* Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.110:34
Riddellyofel: ok to add 12.10 to kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.11 ?10:37
shadeslayerDo we even have packages for 12.10?10:38
Tm_Tuh, no qdbus in 13.04 with 4.11?10:38
shadeslayer!find /usr/bin/qdbus raring10:39
ubottuFile /usr/bin/qdbus found in perlqt-dbg, perlqt-dev, qtchooser10:39
Tm_Tthe bin is symlink to qtchooser bin10:39
shadeslayerah 10:39
Tm_Twhich tries to run bin from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/10:40
Tm_Twhich isn't there10:40
RiddellTm_T: apt-get install qdbus ?10:40
shadeslayeryou want qt4-dev-tools10:40
Riddellit's a known problem that qtchooser can be installed without some binaries to confuse things10:40
shadeslayeror qtbase5-dev-tools10:40
Tm_TRiddell: done, even tried reinstalling several times10:40
Riddelldpkg -L qdbus  ?10:41
Tm_Tcontains /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus10:41
Tm_Tahaaa10:41
Tm_Tso qtchooser tries to run binary from wrong qt version?10:41
shadeslayeryes10:42
shadeslayeryou need to export some variable10:42
shadeslayerman qtchooser10:43
Tm_Tthe assumption that if I install packages things just work, doesn't work here10:43
Tm_Tlet's see10:43
yofelRiddell: should be fine, I heard no complaints10:44
yofelshadeslayer: yes, we have packages for 12.10 now10:44
shadeslayeroh cool10:44
Riddellyofel: thanks for doing those10:45
Riddellshadeslayer: people moaned so yofel was good enough to do it, I'm still not sure why anyone is running quantal but customer knows best I guess10:46
shadeslayer^^10:46
shadeslayerRiddell: plasma-nm is the git version of the new network manager thingy right>10:47
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah10:48
Riddellshadeslayer: along with libnm-qt and libmm-qt10:48
shadeslayerright10:48
Riddelland I need a packaging and functionality review10:48
shadeslayerRiddell: looks weird in a horizontal panel10:49
Riddellshadeslayer: how so?10:49
shadeslayerpixmap isn't scaled properly10:49
Riddelllooks exactly the same as current one to me10:49
Riddellshadeslayer: screenshot?10:49
smartboyhwshadeslayer, Riddell the *fixed* calligra-l10n should be in smartboyhw/packaging-staging-2 ppa10:49
shadeslayerRiddell: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/20/plasma-desktopwH9290.png10:50
shadeslayerRiddell: oh, you probably added it to the systray10:50
Riddellthat's a vertical panel :)10:50
Riddellyeah it's in my systray10:50
Riddellbut it looks fine in your screenshot no?10:50
shadeslayeryes, looks weird in a horizontal screenshot as well10:50
shadeslayernope10:50
smartboyhwHmm, not yet10:50
shadeslayerlooks bad locally10:51
shadeslayerpossibly screenshot doesn't show the issue properly 10:51
shadeslayerthat IM button is totally confusiong10:51
BluesKajHiyas all10:51
shadeslayer*confusing10:51
shadeslayerI associate that icon with ktp10:51
shadeslayeris it just me or both the wrench and the 'online icon' do the same thing?10:52
shadeslayerRiddell: I would propose putting it in experimental10:54
Riddellshadeslayer: IM button?10:55
Riddellshadeslayer: yes it's one big button at the bottom to show the options panel thing10:56
shadeslayerboth the wrench and the online icon do the same thing http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/20/plasma-desktopCz9290.png10:56
Riddellah you're saying the green icon is the same as telepathy connected icon, that could be confusing10:56
shadeslayerthat AND clicking on either the icon and the wrench does the same thing10:57
Riddellsure, valid UI issue, we can take that back to the authors10:59
Riddellbut not a killer I think10:59
shadeslayersure10:59
RiddellI'd like to put it into saucy to get it tested for the beta and we can decide from there10:59
shadeslayerWon't having 2 network managers in the archive be confusing?11:02
shadeslayerand traditionally we've put stuff in the experimental ppa for testing11:04
shadeslayerRiddell: from a packaging POV how about dropping "Sample debian/rules that uses debhelper" lines in debian/rules ?11:05
shadeslayer( still there in plasma-nm _11:05
Riddellshadeslayer: I'm always unsure about best practice on that, removing copyright notices seems unfair11:07
Riddellbut then it's just distracting11:07
Riddellit's a small issue that doesn't matter either way so I think I'll do it11:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: can you update Qt5 in Neon5 plz11:08
soeeRiddell, here at work i havent updated my system yet to KDe 4.11, now i would like to do this and this packages are marked to be removed: ktouchpadenabler kwin-style-qtcurve libaudiocdplugins4 libkdgantt2 libtaskmanager4abi3 qtcurve tasks-icons11:10
soeeis it fine ?11:10
shadeslayerRiddell: then in libnetworkmanagerqt0.install maybe change the regex to usr/lib/lib*.so.0*11:10
shadeslayerso that if it breaks in the future, the package fails to build11:10
Riddellshadeslayer: if what breaks?11:12
Riddelloh the SONAME changes?11:12
shadeslayerif the so version is bumped to 1?11:12
shadeslayeryes11:12
Riddellsoee: yeah that's all fine11:12
shadeslayerthen we can catch it11:13
soeeRiddell, and stopped: apport-kde kscreen :)11:13
soeebut this i just ignore11:13
shadeslayerRiddell: no symbols for libmodemmanagerqt0 ?11:15
Riddellshadeslayer: hmm I added libmodemmanagerqt0.symbols11:15
Riddellbut maybe I failed to upload it, tsk11:16
shadeslayerand same issue regarding the install file11:16
shadeslayereverything looks good otherwise11:16
shadeslayerRiddell: would be nice to have a release with translations btw11:20
shadeslayersince it's such a big user facing app11:20
Riddellshadeslayer: yes that would be essential for a more final release11:22
seaLneRiddell: in announcements about updated packages ie PMC is there a reason not to say what the package to install it is called? is this to get away from command line stuff?11:28
RiddellseaLne: hmm no, I think it's because I just copied that template from kde sc where the assumption is an update11:29
* Riddell fixes11:29
* Riddell updats kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.111:32
Riddellawooga, kde bug 321695 fixed11:43
ubottuKDE bug 321695 in desktop ">=plasma-4.10.80 startup delay 4-7 seconds - blackness after splash screen has finished" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32169511:43
apacheloggerRiddell: it would appear the discover trello card is either out of date or we are about to head into a QA problem13:01
Riddellapachelogger: yes it's been e-mailing me that13:08
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RiddellI'll look at it sometime soon13:08
smartboyhwRiddell, eh, when did we release plasma-mediacenter 1.1 to Ubuntu archive?13:09
Riddellsmartboyhw: about an hour ago13:13
smartboyhwRiddell, great:)13:13
* smartboyhw still wonders if Riddell have reviewed calligra for him13:14
Riddellsmartboyhw: um no sorry slipped my mind, onto it now13:14
smartboyhwRiddell, don't forget, the -l10n is in my packaging-staging-2 ppa:P13:14
Riddellsmartboyhw: hmm, why?13:15
smartboyhwRiddell, because the packaging-staging-1 version of -l10n failed:P13:15
smartboyhwDue to an extra package (cavalencia got killed obviously)13:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: but why not delete it and upload there?  or bump version no?13:16
Riddellusing a different ppa is just inelegant13:16
smartboyhwRiddell, because delete doesn't work at all (I've tried many times)13:16
smartboyhwAnd bumping version number makes it inelegant (for me:P)13:16
Riddellit's kinae what version numbers are there for :)13:17
soeewhat exactyl plamsa-mediacenter do 13:20
soeeif i open it i have only window with 4 huge icons13:20
soeeand thats all i cant click any of them just scroll left-right13:20
smartboyhwsoee, ;O13:23
soeesmartboyhw, may thi be related to: i just upgraded from 4.10.5 => 4.11 on raring but didnt reboot ?13:23
smartboyhwsoee, eh, you should log out I think at least, to experience 4.11...13:24
soeesmartboyhw, yeah but i didnt want to stop my work :) thats why i postponed reboot13:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: wibble13:33
Riddellwords(11426)/koffice (lib komain): "words" part.desktop not found. 13:33
Riddellcalligrawords not running?13:33
smartboyhwRiddell, :O13:33
Riddellsame for calligrasheets13:34
Riddellsmartboyhw: does it work for you?13:34
* smartboyhw checks13:34
Riddellit works after running kbuildsycoca413:35
Riddellso it's a general problem13:35
smartboyhwHmm13:35
Riddellthat should run magically when installing new stuff13:35
* smartboyhw didn't do anything to packaging except the libopencolorio powerpc change13:35
smartboyhwI'm currently installing here13:36
smartboyhwRiddell, ew, I have that problem too13:37
Riddellsmartboyhw: fixed by running kbuildsycoca4 ?13:37
smartboyhwRiddell, NO.13:37
* smartboyhw is not understanding this13:37
BluesKajapachelogger, I'm looking for a method to configure the audio output settings for video playback on the PMC. Is there a config file available to edit ?13:39
RiddellBluesKaj: it just uses phonon, settings in system settings13:39
Riddell- libopencolorio-dev [!powerpc !armhf],13:40
BluesKajRiddell, that's what i was afraid of :(13:40
smartboyhwRiddell, any reason that you can think of?13:40
Riddellsmartboyhw: libopencolorio-dev fine on powerpc?13:40
smartboyhwRiddell, according to ScottK yes13:40
smartboyhwHe did that change, not me.13:40
Riddellsmartboyhw: nope I'm mystified13:41
Riddellbut I can't see it being a calligra problem13:41
* smartboyhw too13:41
smartboyhwIs it our own problem then13:41
smartboyhw?13:41
Riddellsmartboyhw: ok to upload?13:42
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm not sure now...13:42
Riddellsmartboyhw: well nothing has changed in calligra13:43
smartboyhwRiddell, OK then, if you say so13:43
smartboyhwBut this weird thing...13:43
Riddellyes, worrying13:44
Riddellsmartboyhw: you planning on backporting this?13:45
shadeslayer~np shadeslayer_13:45
smartboyhwRiddell, the problem is that if this "problem" happens to 13.04 and 12.04 users, I'm not willing to backport it.13:46
smartboyhw"problem" = kbuildsycoca413:46
Riddellsmartboyhw: if it happens in 13.04 we know it's something to do with calligra and not kdelibs13:47
Riddellbut I expect it's kdelibs13:47
smartboyhwRiddell, OK13:47
smartboyhwRiddell, can you do the backport? I am a bit busy here to rush my summer homework..13:48
Riddellsmartboyhw: we'll see who gets to it first :)13:49
Riddelluploaded to saucy13:49
smartboyhwRiddell, huh13:50
Riddellwell I'm busy on plama-nm now and I'm away this evening so dunno if I have time either13:50
* smartboyhw then nominates apachelogger or shadeslayer or yofel to do the work...13:51
shadeslayerI have a frameworks meeting to attend in 10 minutes13:51
shadeslayerthen I'm done for the day13:51
shadeslayer( assuming John Layt doesn't reply to my mail )13:51
Riddellshadeslayer: you keeping more normal waking hours these days?13:53
shadeslayerRiddell: ~yeah13:53
shadeslayertrying hard to13:54
shadeslayerI slip one or two hours every week, need to keep myself in check so that I don't slip too far13:54
shadeslayerI started off this week by sleeping at 2 AM13:54
shadeslayertoday was not productive though :(13:55
* shadeslayer hasn't watched Dr. Who in over 2 weeks :(13:59
Riddellit's not been broadcast for about 2 months?14:00
shadeslayerI was catching up on old episodes14:00
shadeslayerwas watching the one where David Tenant stars as the doctor14:00
* shadeslayer tries fixing QtWebkit FTBFS14:01
Riddellbonus points for the Children in Need special that is set when he regenerates as David Tennant14:02
Riddellsmartboyhw: calligra-l10n breakage? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148008979/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.calligra-l10n_1%3A2.7.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:02
Riddell-- ERROR: debian/control has excess language packages: calligra-l10n-cavalencia14:02
smartboyhwRiddell, is it packaging-staging-2?14:02
Riddellthose pesky valencians, it's not like they even have their own language14:02
Riddellsmartboyhw: aah14:03
Riddellsmartboyhw: my apt-get source may have not realised that14:03
Riddellso I'll need to bump the version no anyway :)14:03
smartboyhwWeird14:03
smartboyhw....14:03
smartboyhwRiddell, it failed in packaging-staging-214:03
smartboyhwBut I've uploaded the fixed version already, maybe I missed something (damn)14:04
* smartboyhw goes back to his Maths14:04
Riddellno it's fine in packaging-staging-214:04
smartboyhwRiddell, is it?14:05
RiddellI uploaded the packaging-staging-1 version by mistake - you didn't update the version number :)14:05
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-2/+packages looks fine14:05
shadeslayerPFNGLFRAMEBUFFERTEXTURE2DMULTISAMPLEIMGPROC < what a fun define14:05
smartboyhwRiddell, ah you uploaded wrong:P14:05
smartboyhwSorry man14:05
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smartboyhwshadeslayer, I never get Qt 5 dev branch to build...14:06
shadeslayersmartboyhw: this is qtwebkit14:06
shadeslayera completely different beast14:06
smartboyhwshadeslayer, qtwebkit too14:06
smartboyhwI mean, the Qt 5 version14:06
shadeslayerjust disable it?14:06
smartboyhwshadeslayer, I want to build frameworks14:07
smartboyhwBut Plasma Frameworks 2 needs qtwebkit5 (damn)14:07
shadeslayerNeon 514:07
shadeslayer?14:07
* smartboyhw is starting to get hatred of PPAs;P14:07
smartboyhwshadeslayer, anyways kde-workspace doesn't build in neon5 I think14:07
shadeslayeruntrue14:07
* smartboyhw checks14:08
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smartboyhwshadeslayer,  project-neon5-kde-workspace 20 hours ago14:09
smartboyhwFailed to build: amd64 i386 14:09
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smartboyhwI'm not wrong it seems14:09
shadeslayerprobably because we needed a new Qt514:09
shadeslayerwhich I uploaded an hour or so ago14:09
smartboyhwshadeslayer, oh great:)14:09
shadeslayeralso, gtg, meeting time14:09
* smartboyhw watches the meeting:P14:09
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soeeRiddell, i tested for a few minutes plasma-mediacenter at work, looks fine19:27
soeewhere was the network manager to test ?19:30
* genii hugs queuebot21:16

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