=== gorgonzola_ is now known as gorgonzola === gorgonzola is now known as galoise === gorgonzola is now known as galoise === jtatria is now known as gorgonzola [03:31] ::workspace-bugs:: [1206371] kwin is not starting: cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206371 (by Chupligin Sergey) [03:31] Launchpad bug 1206371 in Kubuntu PPA "kwin is not starting: cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1" [High,Confirmed] [05:19] Riddell: great thing with donations (: [06:11] Anyone here doing calligra? [06:13] You apparently. Please not there are unreleased changes in bzr. [06:14] ScottK, again:( Alright... [06:17] kubotu: newversion calligra 2.7.2 [06:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1214256 [06:17] Launchpad bug 1214256 in calligra (Ubuntu) "Please update calligra to 2.7.2" [Undecided,New] [06:18] I think Riddell already did one of those. Check. [06:18] ScottK, you mean, calligra? [06:19] Marking as dup then [07:12] tsdgeos: o_o [07:12] ? [07:12] kwin not starting [07:13] o_o [07:13] ah [07:13] works fine here on saucy [07:14] shadeslayer: just read the log ;-P [07:15] last message I see is Riddell: ↑↑↑↑ [07:16] what a lazy Tuesday morning [07:16] ah you left [07:17] mmm after upgrade i have a problem with digital clock widget [07:17] some one can try to add the widget to a panel ? [07:17] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/~tsdgeos/pe0c7bcb1/ [07:17] it seems unknow now to plasma [07:18] ah libhybris [07:18] funsies [07:19] Peace-: wfm [07:19] mm [07:20] shadeslayer: tx [07:58] !search [07:58] Search factoids for term: !search [07:58] good morning [07:59] shadeslayer, how to find a file in a package using ubottu? [07:59] I forgotten [07:59] !find kdelibs5.so [07:59] Package/file kdelibs5.so does not exist in raring [08:00] !find ucred.h [08:00] Package/file ucred.h does not exist in raring [08:00] !find system/ucred.h [08:00] Package/file system/ucred.h does not exist in raring [08:00] Eh hum [08:01] !find ucred.h saucy [08:01] Package/file ucred.h does not exist in saucy [08:47] kubotu: newversion calligra-l10n 2.7.2 [08:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1214298 [08:47] Launchpad bug 1214298 in calligra-l10n (Ubuntu) "Please update calligra-l10n to 2.7.2" [Undecided,New] [09:02] Anyone can review calligra and calligra-l10n existing in smartboyhw/packaging-staging-1 PPA? [09:12] yofel: uhm, did we not take into account the HWE stack for 4.11? [09:12] because installing the HWE stack removes kde-window-manager on precise [09:13] ( with 4.11 ) [09:14] I saw that, and I don't know why it happens :/ [09:14] :/ [09:14] :S [09:15] shadeslayer, the kernel stack or the graphics stack? [09:15] smartboyhw: both [09:15] well [09:15] BOTH!? [09:15] kernel doesn't remove kde-window-manager [09:15] smartboyhw: you can't seperate those [09:15] * smartboyhw thought it's xorg [09:15] because running mixed X and kernel stacks is unsupported [09:15] yofel, oh really? [09:15] yes [09:15] * smartboyhw checks anyway [09:16] it'll be mesa that's the problem [09:16] that's the only thing kwin uses [09:16] yes [09:16] I think it depends on the regular mesa package [09:16] and that conflicts with the HWE one [09:17] and then apt decides to remove kde-window-manager to solve it [09:17] hm [09:17] yofel: doesn't happen on regular precise [09:17] oh [09:17] thats why [09:18] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/pbb42ec51/ [09:18] lines 4 through 11 [09:18] looks correct to me [09:19] no, I mean that's from 4.8.5 [09:19] and someone manually added the deps? [09:19] no, mesa shlibs does that I think [09:19] or something like that [09:20] wait, libgl1 is virtual I think [09:22] I am completely unsure how this works :S [09:24] every mesa package provides libgl1, so you can switch them out as you want [09:24] the only thing you need to work out is apt's resolver behaviour [09:25] so why is it that our PPA packages don't depend on the lts packages [09:25] because the lts package have the exact same shlibs depends as the archive packages [09:25] so nothing's different [09:30] * Riddell gets onto plasma-mediacentre 1.1 for the announcement [09:33] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/p974ec6dd/ is what I have on my precise machine [09:34] line 137 [09:37] shadeslayer: what exactly are you installing? [09:37] linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring ? [09:42] add at least egl to that [09:43] http://paste.kde.org/p2e68d6e4/ [09:44] I think it's because might not be virtual? [09:45] kubuntu@kubuntu:~$ apt-cache depends kde-window-manager | grep libgles2 [09:45] |Depends: libgles2-mesa [09:45] Depends: [09:45] libgles2-mesa [09:45] libgles2-mesa-lts-quantal [09:45] libgles2-mesa-lts-raring [09:45] argh [09:45] http://paste.kde.org/pf4eea78b/ [09:45] *because libgles2-mesa might not be virtual [09:46] yeah [09:46] this line works === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [09:47] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/p2a27cf42/ [09:48] can you try that in your VM > [09:48] ? [09:57] don't have it here, will try it later [10:01] okay [10:01] * shadeslayer is trying in his own VM before trying out on the desktop [10:01] shadeslayer: I've seen this update problem to. Installing the missing lts-raring dependencies fixes the problem. [10:01] but it'll take a good hour [10:02] jmux: I see, cool, then I can relpy on the devel mailing list [10:02] If I just install with lts-raring packages I don't have any problems. [10:02] oh [10:03] Just can't remember which packages were actually missing, as my repository just contains the lts-raring packages. [10:03] sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-raring xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring libegl1-mesa-lts-raring libgles2-mesa-lts-raring [10:03] s/raring/quantal/ [10:03] shadeslayer meant: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-raring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-raring libegl1-mesa-lts-raring libgles2-mesa-lts-raring" [10:03] bleh, stops at the first instance [10:04] anyway, jmux, try that ^^ with quantal instead of raring [10:08] seems to work here http://paste.kde.org/p24d28a1c/ [10:14] shadeslayer: I can't really try the update. My client installation already contains the lts-raring HWE and KDE 4.11 packages on precise. [10:14] ah :) [10:14] cool :) [10:15] This probably just works, because my repository doesn't contain any alternative packages. [10:15] And many thanks from Munich / LiMux for those Precise KDE 4.11 packages - saved us a lot of work! [10:16] maybe :) [10:16] jmux: mostly thanks to yofel :D [10:17] * smartboyhw asks for shadeslayer and yofel to review calligra. [10:17] link pklz [10:17] *plz [10:18] smartboyhw: what's to review? [10:18] Riddell, 2.7.2 duh [10:18] :P [10:18] In smartboyhw/packaging-staging-1 [10:19] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy < do I need to review all nm packages? [10:20] smartboyhw: l10n is FTBFS [10:21] shadeslayer, :O [10:21] Oh, removed language [10:24] shadeslayer: yeah please, packaging as well as funationality [10:28] !testers | plasma-mediacentre in saucy and kubuntu-ppa/backports for raring [10:28] plasma-mediacentre in saucy and kubuntu-ppa/backports for raring: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. [10:31] Riddell: probably going to take time since I have to setup a saucy VM [10:31] or hmm [10:32] * Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.1 [10:32] shadeslayer: mm you're not on saucy? [10:32] I am [10:33] yeah, I'll just add the ppa [10:33] so just install them locally [10:33] it won't breaking anything :) [10:34] * Riddell publishes kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.1 [10:37] yofel: ok to add 12.10 to kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.11 ? [10:38] Do we even have packages for 12.10? [10:38] uh, no qdbus in 13.04 with 4.11? [10:39] !find /usr/bin/qdbus raring [10:39] File /usr/bin/qdbus found in perlqt-dbg, perlqt-dev, qtchooser [10:39] the bin is symlink to qtchooser bin [10:39] ah [10:40] which tries to run bin from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/ [10:40] which isn't there [10:40] Tm_T: apt-get install qdbus ? [10:40] you want qt4-dev-tools [10:40] it's a known problem that qtchooser can be installed without some binaries to confuse things [10:40] or qtbase5-dev-tools [10:40] Riddell: done, even tried reinstalling several times [10:41] dpkg -L qdbus ? [10:41] contains /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus [10:41] ahaaa [10:41] so qtchooser tries to run binary from wrong qt version? [10:42] yes [10:42] you need to export some variable [10:43] man qtchooser [10:43] the assumption that if I install packages things just work, doesn't work here [10:43] let's see [10:44] Riddell: should be fine, I heard no complaints [10:44] shadeslayer: yes, we have packages for 12.10 now [10:44] oh cool [10:45] yofel: thanks for doing those [10:46] shadeslayer: people moaned so yofel was good enough to do it, I'm still not sure why anyone is running quantal but customer knows best I guess [10:46] ^^ [10:47] Riddell: plasma-nm is the git version of the new network manager thingy right> [10:48] shadeslayer: yeah [10:48] shadeslayer: along with libnm-qt and libmm-qt [10:48] right [10:48] and I need a packaging and functionality review [10:49] Riddell: looks weird in a horizontal panel [10:49] shadeslayer: how so? [10:49] pixmap isn't scaled properly [10:49] looks exactly the same as current one to me [10:49] shadeslayer: screenshot? [10:49] shadeslayer, Riddell the *fixed* calligra-l10n should be in smartboyhw/packaging-staging-2 ppa [10:50] Riddell: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/20/plasma-desktopwH9290.png [10:50] Riddell: oh, you probably added it to the systray [10:50] that's a vertical panel :) [10:50] yeah it's in my systray [10:50] but it looks fine in your screenshot no? [10:50] yes, looks weird in a horizontal screenshot as well [10:50] nope [10:50] Hmm, not yet [10:51] looks bad locally [10:51] possibly screenshot doesn't show the issue properly [10:51] that IM button is totally confusiong [10:51] Hiyas all [10:51] *confusing [10:51] I associate that icon with ktp [10:52] is it just me or both the wrench and the 'online icon' do the same thing? [10:54] Riddell: I would propose putting it in experimental [10:55] shadeslayer: IM button? [10:56] shadeslayer: yes it's one big button at the bottom to show the options panel thing [10:56] both the wrench and the online icon do the same thing http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/20/plasma-desktopCz9290.png [10:56] ah you're saying the green icon is the same as telepathy connected icon, that could be confusing [10:57] that AND clicking on either the icon and the wrench does the same thing [10:59] sure, valid UI issue, we can take that back to the authors [10:59] but not a killer I think [10:59] sure [10:59] I'd like to put it into saucy to get it tested for the beta and we can decide from there [11:02] Won't having 2 network managers in the archive be confusing? [11:04] and traditionally we've put stuff in the experimental ppa for testing [11:05] Riddell: from a packaging POV how about dropping "Sample debian/rules that uses debhelper" lines in debian/rules ? [11:05] ( still there in plasma-nm _ [11:07] shadeslayer: I'm always unsure about best practice on that, removing copyright notices seems unfair [11:07] but then it's just distracting [11:08] it's a small issue that doesn't matter either way so I think I'll do it [11:08] apachelogger: can you update Qt5 in Neon5 plz [11:10] Riddell, here at work i havent updated my system yet to KDe 4.11, now i would like to do this and this packages are marked to be removed: ktouchpadenabler kwin-style-qtcurve libaudiocdplugins4 libkdgantt2 libtaskmanager4abi3 qtcurve tasks-icons [11:10] is it fine ? [11:10] Riddell: then in libnetworkmanagerqt0.install maybe change the regex to usr/lib/lib*.so.0* [11:10] so that if it breaks in the future, the package fails to build [11:12] shadeslayer: if what breaks? [11:12] oh the SONAME changes? [11:12] if the so version is bumped to 1? [11:12] yes [11:12] soee: yeah that's all fine [11:13] then we can catch it [11:13] Riddell, and stopped: apport-kde kscreen :) [11:13] but this i just ignore [11:15] Riddell: no symbols for libmodemmanagerqt0 ? [11:15] shadeslayer: hmm I added libmodemmanagerqt0.symbols [11:16] but maybe I failed to upload it, tsk [11:16] and same issue regarding the install file [11:16] everything looks good otherwise [11:20] Riddell: would be nice to have a release with translations btw [11:20] since it's such a big user facing app [11:22] shadeslayer: yes that would be essential for a more final release [11:28] Riddell: in announcements about updated packages ie PMC is there a reason not to say what the package to install it is called? is this to get away from command line stuff? [11:29] seaLne: hmm no, I think it's because I just copied that template from kde sc where the assumption is an update [11:29] * Riddell fixes [11:32] * Riddell updats kubuntu.org/news/plasma-mediacentre-1.1 [11:43] awooga, kde bug 321695 fixed [11:43] KDE bug 321695 in desktop ">=plasma-4.10.80 startup delay 4-7 seconds - blackness after splash screen has finished" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321695 [13:01] Riddell: it would appear the discover trello card is either out of date or we are about to head into a QA problem [13:08] apachelogger: yes it's been e-mailing me that === Evpok_ is now known as Evpok [13:08] I'll look at it sometime soon [13:09] Riddell, eh, when did we release plasma-mediacenter 1.1 to Ubuntu archive? [13:13] smartboyhw: about an hour ago [13:13] Riddell, great:) [13:14] * smartboyhw still wonders if Riddell have reviewed calligra for him [13:14] smartboyhw: um no sorry slipped my mind, onto it now [13:14] Riddell, don't forget, the -l10n is in my packaging-staging-2 ppa:P [13:15] smartboyhw: hmm, why? [13:15] Riddell, because the packaging-staging-1 version of -l10n failed:P [13:15] Due to an extra package (cavalencia got killed obviously) [13:16] smartboyhw: but why not delete it and upload there? or bump version no? [13:16] using a different ppa is just inelegant [13:16] Riddell, because delete doesn't work at all (I've tried many times) [13:16] And bumping version number makes it inelegant (for me:P) [13:17] it's kinae what version numbers are there for :) [13:20] what exactyl plamsa-mediacenter do [13:20] if i open it i have only window with 4 huge icons [13:20] and thats all i cant click any of them just scroll left-right [13:23] soee, ;O [13:23] smartboyhw, may thi be related to: i just upgraded from 4.10.5 => 4.11 on raring but didnt reboot ? [13:24] soee, eh, you should log out I think at least, to experience 4.11... [13:25] smartboyhw, yeah but i didnt want to stop my work :) thats why i postponed reboot [13:33] smartboyhw: wibble [13:33] words(11426)/koffice (lib komain): "words" part.desktop not found. [13:33] calligrawords not running? [13:33] Riddell, :O [13:34] same for calligrasheets [13:34] smartboyhw: does it work for you? [13:34] * smartboyhw checks [13:35] it works after running kbuildsycoca4 [13:35] so it's a general problem [13:35] Hmm [13:35] that should run magically when installing new stuff [13:35] * smartboyhw didn't do anything to packaging except the libopencolorio powerpc change [13:36] I'm currently installing here [13:37] Riddell, ew, I have that problem too [13:37] smartboyhw: fixed by running kbuildsycoca4 ? [13:37] Riddell, NO. [13:37] * smartboyhw is not understanding this [13:39] apachelogger, I'm looking for a method to configure the audio output settings for video playback on the PMC. Is there a config file available to edit ? [13:39] BluesKaj: it just uses phonon, settings in system settings [13:40] - libopencolorio-dev [!powerpc !armhf], [13:40] Riddell, that's what i was afraid of :( [13:40] Riddell, any reason that you can think of? [13:40] smartboyhw: libopencolorio-dev fine on powerpc? [13:40] Riddell, according to ScottK yes [13:40] He did that change, not me. [13:41] smartboyhw: nope I'm mystified [13:41] but I can't see it being a calligra problem [13:41] * smartboyhw too [13:41] Is it our own problem then [13:41] ? [13:42] smartboyhw: ok to upload? [13:42] Riddell, I'm not sure now... [13:43] smartboyhw: well nothing has changed in calligra [13:43] Riddell, OK then, if you say so [13:43] But this weird thing... [13:44] yes, worrying [13:45] smartboyhw: you planning on backporting this? [13:45] ~np shadeslayer_ [13:46] Riddell, the problem is that if this "problem" happens to 13.04 and 12.04 users, I'm not willing to backport it. [13:46] "problem" = kbuildsycoca4 [13:47] smartboyhw: if it happens in 13.04 we know it's something to do with calligra and not kdelibs [13:47] but I expect it's kdelibs [13:47] Riddell, OK [13:48] Riddell, can you do the backport? I am a bit busy here to rush my summer homework.. [13:49] smartboyhw: we'll see who gets to it first :) [13:49] uploaded to saucy [13:50] Riddell, huh [13:50] well I'm busy on plama-nm now and I'm away this evening so dunno if I have time either [13:51] * smartboyhw then nominates apachelogger or shadeslayer or yofel to do the work... [13:51] I have a frameworks meeting to attend in 10 minutes [13:51] then I'm done for the day [13:51] ( assuming John Layt doesn't reply to my mail ) [13:53] shadeslayer: you keeping more normal waking hours these days? [13:53] Riddell: ~yeah [13:54] trying hard to [13:54] I slip one or two hours every week, need to keep myself in check so that I don't slip too far [13:54] I started off this week by sleeping at 2 AM [13:55] today was not productive though :( [13:59] * shadeslayer hasn't watched Dr. Who in over 2 weeks :( [14:00] it's not been broadcast for about 2 months? [14:00] I was catching up on old episodes [14:00] was watching the one where David Tenant stars as the doctor [14:01] * shadeslayer tries fixing QtWebkit FTBFS [14:02] bonus points for the Children in Need special that is set when he regenerates as David Tennant [14:02] smartboyhw: calligra-l10n breakage? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148008979/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.calligra-l10n_1%3A2.7.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:02] -- ERROR: debian/control has excess language packages: calligra-l10n-cavalencia [14:02] Riddell, is it packaging-staging-2? [14:02] those pesky valencians, it's not like they even have their own language [14:03] smartboyhw: aah [14:03] smartboyhw: my apt-get source may have not realised that [14:03] so I'll need to bump the version no anyway :) [14:03] Weird [14:03] .... [14:03] Riddell, it failed in packaging-staging-2 [14:04] But I've uploaded the fixed version already, maybe I missed something (damn) [14:04] * smartboyhw goes back to his Maths [14:04] no it's fine in packaging-staging-2 [14:05] Riddell, is it? [14:05] I uploaded the packaging-staging-1 version by mistake - you didn't update the version number :) [14:05] https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-2/+packages looks fine [14:05] PFNGLFRAMEBUFFERTEXTURE2DMULTISAMPLEIMGPROC < what a fun define [14:05] Riddell, ah you uploaded wrong:P [14:05] Sorry man === jono is now known as Guest90491 [14:06] shadeslayer, I never get Qt 5 dev branch to build... [14:06] smartboyhw: this is qtwebkit [14:06] a completely different beast [14:06] shadeslayer, qtwebkit too [14:06] I mean, the Qt 5 version [14:06] just disable it? [14:07] shadeslayer, I want to build frameworks [14:07] But Plasma Frameworks 2 needs qtwebkit5 (damn) [14:07] Neon 5 [14:07] ? [14:07] * smartboyhw is starting to get hatred of PPAs;P [14:07] shadeslayer, anyways kde-workspace doesn't build in neon5 I think [14:07] untrue [14:08] * smartboyhw checks === greyback is now known as greyback|needsfo [14:09] shadeslayer, project-neon5-kde-workspace 20 hours ago [14:09] Failed to build: amd64 i386 === greyback|needsfo is now known as greyback|food [14:09] I'm not wrong it seems [14:09] probably because we needed a new Qt5 [14:09] which I uploaded an hour or so ago [14:09] shadeslayer, oh great:) [14:09] also, gtg, meeting time [14:09] * smartboyhw watches the meeting:P === greyback|food is now known as greyback [19:27] Riddell, i tested for a few minutes plasma-mediacenter at work, looks fine [19:30] where was the network manager to test ? [21:16] * genii hugs queuebot