[00:04] cwayne: I haven't seen an API or API docs for the infographic yet, no [00:17] w-flo, now i am booting into a empty screen without any reboot loop i wonder if it worked. [00:17] i cant' adb shell thought [00:18] ogra said it takes a long time for adb to come up on his device IIRC [00:18] hmm [00:19] I thought that it can't get stuck in the initrd (will spawn adbd if anything goes wrong), and if upstart fails to do its job, it should reboot... so if it's just a black screen.. what could have happened? upstart getting stuck? upstart failed to launch adbd? hum.. [00:20] I have the "boot to black screen without adb" when the /data flash fails halfway [00:20] you probably remember me saying that a few times already :D [00:22] how do i get to terminal on today's 19.2 image? [00:22] RobbyF, tap the "installed" header to expand the app list [00:23] that's how it was 2 days ago. not today though. [00:23] I just have 'more suggestions' [00:23] I guess I'm at 19.1 then. or 19.. [00:24] I think all 19 have been like that [00:24] w-flo, hmm ima re install /data then [00:25] annerajb, I think ogra recommends to check if there are files in "/var/log" [00:26] those are probably the last files getting flashed [00:26] so if there are files there, the flash was successful [00:28] there are files there [00:28] ima delete them boot once [00:28] and go into recovery to check if there are new ones [00:29] great idea :) [00:30] no black screen now -_- just the galaxy s and cyanogwen mod animation logo [00:31] quick question. where does the phablet-flash grab from? Ubuntu-touch or Ubuntu-touch-preview? [00:32] dixeflatline, ubuntu-touch [00:32] the one that says preview was for the old unflipped image [00:32] the ubuntu-touch has the new flipped image [00:32] unless you're using the community feature, dixeflatline [00:32] thank you. i thought so. [00:33] I was updating my N7 on MultiRom and i garbed the preview. Didnt seem right. [00:35] what's in the community feature? [00:36] yeah what is the community feature? bug reporting or something? [00:37] dixeflatline, it's for flashing ubuntu touch community ports (for unsupported devices) [00:37] so it doesn't apply to the nexus7 [00:37] hey [00:38] oops wrong channel. [00:38] thanks for the info w-flo [00:38] w-flo, so it appears that it wrote one log file /var/log/lxc/android.log but it's empty :( [00:39] IIRC there is a bug in upstart.. it fails to create /var/log/upstart if it doesn't exist. Though I wonder why you have no dmesg log.. [00:39] but still, that log file is a sign of life :) [00:40] so i guess it started running the rootfs :D [00:40] yes, I guess so! lxc sounds very much like it [00:40] maybe ogra can tell what's going on [00:40] manually create the /var/log/upstart directory and see if upstart puts anything in there :) [00:41] and BTW, the android.log is empty on my device, too. [00:42] w-flo, i recreated all the directories i deleted just in case they need to exist [00:43] meanwhile i am making progress on building a usb uart serial cable for the kernel :D [00:43] annerajb, your device has issues with partition labels, right? like the vision? maybe the update-fstab script fails... the upstart logs should probably tell === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:45] w-flo, yeah my device has no partition labels and i coudnt find a fstab to remove nosu‎id [00:45] the /usr/lib/lxc-android-config/update-fstab script scans for partition labels to add data, system and vendor to /etc/fstab [00:46] It will fail, so maybe that's causing the hang.. I don't remember [00:46] http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-emailclient-dev-coreapps-13.10-month-4.html [00:47] I wonder how sudoku and dropping letters are a priority to an email client. [00:47] w-flo, it's booting upstart wrote files [00:48] yay! [00:48] w-flo, http://pastebin.com/qmsfPnaA [00:49] i think it should say counted cpus 1? lol [00:49] RobbyF: sukoku and dropping-letters were started independently and only later added to the core apps [00:50] I have the same ureadahead.. [00:50] Ty sir. [00:50] w-flo, which file has the CPU count? [00:50] errr... annerajb ^ [00:50] lol let me check [00:52] ureadaheadlog has that [00:53] contains only "ureadahead: Error while tracing: No such file or directory" for me.. :o [00:55] There's a timeout in /etc/init/ureadahead.conf .. 180s , then an additional 45s.. [00:55] that's good lol it means i should start in there [00:56] maybe if you wait 4 mins it continues booting? :D [00:56] hmm ima try that then [00:58] w-flo, do you have this container-detect stop/pre-start, process 253 [00:58] on the container-detect file [00:58] yes, the PID is 1093 / 1092 / 1089 though, not 253 [00:59] I guess that's fine :) [01:02] oh well, it's late and I must really go to bed now. I keep my fingers crossed of course :) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [01:32] I'm following this guide I was linked to earlier https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/PortingFlippedInProgress#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0 and it seems I'm missing the breakfast command, what is the package or step I'm missing? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [01:44] How would I call breakfast/brunch on an unofficially supported phone? The github repo for it is here I believe https://github.com/TeamApexQ/android_device_samsung_d2-common [02:21] hi everyone [02:22] hi [02:23] i have a question [02:24] can i install ubuntu tablet version into other tablet device? [02:24] if ported correctly I don't see why not. [02:27] let say i have samsung tablet [02:27] can i install it with ubuntu? [02:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [02:27] android? [02:28] clicking a few buttons probably not. dev work needs to be done. [02:28] mierol, Ubuntu tablet version, do you mean the saucy version? [02:28] see if it's in the list - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [02:29] Robby F, thanks [02:30] np, hopefully that puts in you the right direction. [02:34] What files do i download to install ubuntu touch on my galaxy note 2 verizon? I seen it was listed in a list of compatible devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [02:38] nmarriotti, you need two files [02:39] one of them is the rootfs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [02:39] the other one comes from whoever ported your device which is a zip file usually aroudn 50megabytes [02:39] you flash those two files with recovery [02:39] and reboot [02:41] Oh ok. Ill have to look into getting that 50mb file. Thanks for the help. === salem_ is now known as _salem === xIndirect is now known as Nick === xIndirect is now known as Nick === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [04:04] beuno: please file a bug with details. === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [04:47] Does anyone know if there's a preferable way to ensure you're running the latest ubuntu touch? [04:48] I used apt-get update/upgrade and everything indicates current, but from what I'm seeing online, there's a working alarm clock, but I don't have it. [05:08] Kaleo: please e-mail me the patch / codereview link, especially if it's related to fixing the 5.1 blocker bug. === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === milli` is now known as milli === arunprasadr_away is now known as arunprasadr [07:00] good morning === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [08:29] mpt, hey, I've been looking a bit at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Location#Phone and I've some questions [08:29] 1- that seem to assume you always have a gps, what happen when you don't (e.g on a desktop), is that a non supported case? [08:30] 2- the apps listed, it's written "It should include only those applications that have ever requested access to location data. " ... should that include uninstalled apps? [08:31] 3- would it make sense to have controls to turn on/off gps/wifi there since they are useful for location? === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [08:47] seb128, 1. It's phone-specific and assuming a GPS right now, that's why it has a big heading "Phone" :-) [08:47] didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/gcc-4.7-by-default [08:48] mpt, do all phone have a gps nowadays? [08:48] asac: in case you wonder why we revert the converged indicator-messages: [08:48] 10:45:01 seb128 | new indicator-messages sigtrap on start [08:49] tvoss: hi! Do you remember that we spoke about surface reparenting, once? I now got a more difficult case :-) [08:49] asac: so, clearly not ready, we revert [08:49] tvoss: here's the design: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OnlineAccounts#phone-access [08:49] seb128, I was assuming it, but I haven't seen a hardware requirements document anywhere. [08:49] mpt, ok, wfm [08:49] mardy, btw, I'm halfway through replying to your reply about that [08:49] tvoss: that is, a dialog popping up in front of another window; will this be supported? [08:49] didrocks: and now? [08:49] mpt: thanks! [08:50] asac: well, tedg will be pinged [08:50] and sil2100 will list that as a note for the stack [08:50] let's first do the revert, already taking some time [08:50] mardy, it is not right now, and I would prefer if we had a list of use-cases that we have to support [08:50] as not enough integration tests on that didn't catch it [08:51] didrocks: so this means back to a ppa? [08:51] tvoss: OK, we'll first discuss the options with mpt and then come back to you, if needed :-) [08:51] seb128, 2. Good point, it should list only currently-installed apps. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Location?action=diff&rev2=6&rev1=5 [08:51] didrocks: we really want this in the archive [08:51] even if we use a different source name [08:51] mardy, ack and thanks. It would help me if we could start noting down what we really need in an abstract way [08:52] asac, you don't really want something that sigtrap on start, no [08:52] mardy, tvoss: katie and I are working on use cases and patterns for dialogs this week. [08:52] asac, get the work properly done if you want it in... [08:52] seb128: I didnt say we want a crash [08:52] all i am saying is that we dont want to use a ppa version in official images anymore [08:52] mpt, ack, but this is a bigger issue: reparenting and cross process assembly of UIs [08:52] asac, yet at the same time you push to land stuff that didn't get the minimal level of qa/testing [08:52] seb128: wait :) [08:53] seb128: i always said: get it out of the ppa ... the fact that people decided to go for the converged indicator-messages [08:53] was THEIR choice [08:53] i always was saying: get it in using a different name or something [08:53] so you dont need to block on convergance [08:53] that's a waste of resources [08:53] seb128: having stuff in ppa is wasting resources as well ... its hard to sum things up [08:53] let's create extra work, duplicate sources, to converge back a week later [08:54] we don't have the luxury of throwing days of work away like that [08:54] seb128: a week? i think i said that over a month ago :) [08:54] now it might be a week ahead [08:54] well, everybody has ETOOMUCH [08:54] tvoss, we have the same issue on the desktop with PolicyKit dialogs. The PolicyKit API doesn't include "which window should the prompt be modal to", so sometimes it isn't focused properly, bug 877265. [08:54] bug 877265 in software-center (Ubuntu) "10.04 LTS: Focus does not go automatically to password field when 'install' button is pressed." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877265 [08:54] seb128: right. so it doesnt help either if suddenly ppas bust our images, making everyone go on a firedrill as well :) [08:55] mpt, yeah, that's why I think we need to think deeply about the cross-process reparenting stuff [08:55] seb128, 3. Why would you want location to be on but GPS to be off, or GPS to be on but location to be off? [08:55] tvoss, I guess on the phone it's easy because you can just assume that it's the app's frontmost window, which is usually its only window anyway [08:56] but on the PC, trickier. [08:56] mpt, good point, what about wifi? [08:57] asac: did it happen, do you have data about that happening (the ppa being bursted because of not being in the archive)? [08:57] didrocks: yep we had that twice :) [08:57] mpt, sure, but the phone is only the special case here and I would like to start working on a generic solution [08:57] asac: anyway, as I told, for indicator-messages, we can't split the package here, so if you want this, slangasek proposed his team IIRC [08:57] didrocks: that was the trigger for using saying we want to go for a zero-ppa approach [08:58] right now, we are reverting to get the image on shape again [08:58] asac: the only case I hard was because of unity8 [08:58] which is in the image now [08:58] didrocks: when did the indicator-messages? [08:58] didrocks: sure thats one case, next case will happen with very high certainty [08:59] and usually at the worst moment you can imagine [08:59] and with the componentn most painful to fix :) [08:59] right, I'm used to that :) [08:59] whats that law called again? [08:59] heh [08:59] murphy is my friend [08:59] it seems [08:59] right :) [09:00] but yeah, you have two options, gave them to you, right now, let's first get it back on shape [09:00] and ping people on why the revert [09:00] so hence, i have been long enough around to know if we dont go for zero-ppa we are FAIL :) [09:00] didrocks: yeah thats perfect [09:00] asac, if we land things without qa and tests we are FAIL as well [09:00] didrocks: when was the converged version landing? [09:00] tvoss, this is a special case of the origin function. For example, if a game has a "Tweet This High Score" button (my favorite example), ideally the Online Services prompt would emanate not just from that window, but from that button. [09:00] seb128: i have no control about what folks land [09:00] asac, today [09:00] asac: it landed today [09:00] asac, yet you pressure them to land [09:01] cool, then we can back out [09:01] like 3 hours ago in proposed [09:01] mpt, sure, but there is a difference between in-process dialogs (fine) and the case where the dialog originates from another process [09:01] 2h56 exactly [09:02] mpt, mardy, i think we should be using the design in this doc https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1UwAQTXgEyZSD3di6fAUS0W18rKxh8TXb1TwsmkgbGG0/edit#heading=h.d5gufdir1r88 which uses sheets [09:03] tvoss: C++11 and friends I guess, right? (just ping me once you push the comment) [09:03] (already spotted some ABI breakage 2 cycles ago in gcc because of that) [09:04] tvoss, hey, I've some "location" question for you ;-) [09:04] didrocks, pushed [09:04] seb128, I'd rather leave it out to start with ... I don't think it'll be common for you to turn on wi-fi just to improve location detection. I could be wrong. [09:04] seb128, shoot [09:04] tvoss, 1- how do you turn the location service on/off (asking for system settings) [09:04] mpt, ok, wfm, thanks for the replies! [09:05] seb128, already clarified with charles, https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/add-controller-for-location-service [09:05] tvoss, oh, right, he needs that for the indicator as well I guess ... thanks! [09:05] seb128, ack [09:05] tvoss, 2- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Location#Phone has a list of apps that "have ever requested access to location data." [09:05] the corresponding dbus interface in the implementation will provide us with mediation hooks [09:05] tvoss, do you know if we have that info recorded somewhere? e.g what apps can access location [09:06] tvoss, and if we have a method to list those and their status (access allowed or not) [09:06] seb128, hmmm, that would require apparmor integration [09:06] seb128, so essentially, the click packages manifests contain that information [09:07] seb128, however, if it has ever been accessed might take more work for the security guys, let's check with them [09:07] tvoss, thanks, do you want to me to send an email on a list about that? or do you ping them? [09:08] seb128, will ping them, I'm interested in the more general question of tracking apps trying to access services and querying that information, too [09:08] tvoss, ok, let me know how that goes [09:08] tvoss, thanks! [09:08] seb128, ack [09:16] didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/location-service/+merge/180692 [09:17] tvoss: that will maybe take a little bit, I need to advance on system update [09:18] didrocks, ack :) [09:19] didrocks: hi, any news about getting ubuntu-ui-extras into saucy ? [09:19] nerochiaro: I asked robru about it, didn't get any feedback [09:19] nerochiaro: not sure if Mirv or sil2100 have spare cycle [09:20] nerochiaro: robru is travelling tonight (and is in the US timezone) [09:26] Mirv: sil2100: can you guys help with getting a package into saucy ? [09:27] nerochiaro: I'm queued with my other things including getting other packages into saucy :( at the moment, at least. [09:29] hi pete-woods [09:29] katie: hi [09:30] nerochiaro: I might be able to help with it, but later [09:30] sil2100: thank you [09:30] oSoMoN:^ FYI [09:30] pete-woods, i just filed a bug about the minimum value thing for the infographic [09:30] pete-woods, cos mine still isn't displaying properly.. :s [09:31] katie: okay, cool, I think it's worth implementing - I'm just a bit up to my eyeballs in bugs with other packages at the moment [09:31] pete-woods, i figured as much, that's why i filed the bug :) [09:31] :) [09:31] pete-woods, this is just an fyi [09:32] katie: tbh I'd much rather work on what you've asked, as it's a codebase that is clean, has practically 100% test coverage and is totally solid [09:48] hey guys, can someone tell me how to enter the pin for my sim card? [09:57] dednick, and the menu shows up on the session bus (verified with d-feet) ... the stand-alone example is able to pick up the menu-model without any issues [09:57] dednick, also using the same libqmenumodel in both cases (system-wide installed one) [09:57] @MacSlow do you know how to enter the pin for my sim card? [09:58] pureCenor, what? [09:58] pureCenor: https://fcns.eu/2013/07/26/ubuntu-touch-unlock-change-reset-pin/ [09:58] look in /usr/share/ofono/scripts [09:58] (found that by typing ubuntu touch sim pin into google) :D [10:02] pureCenor: you can ignore the wget lines [10:02] oSoMoN: gusch_: can any of you guys quickly check if you can access this ? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-ui-extras-saucy-armhf-ci/21/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip [10:02] pureCenor: the stuff is pre-installed now [10:02] look in /usr/share/ofono/scripts [10:02] nerochiaro: no, and it’s expected, the jenkins instance is down, check your e-mail [10:03] oSoMoN: ok, missed that. thanks [10:03] that worked. then when i say: enter-pin "mypin" [10:03] it says: bash: enter-pin: command not found [10:06] pureCenor: ./enter-pin [10:06] aaawwwwwwww. i hate myself [10:12] pureCenor: ./enter-pin pin XXXX [10:15] perfectly working === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:27] Morning all === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:39] ogra_: do we know when the new network indicator lands? This 3g issue is starting to drive me crazy .... well crazier :D [10:40] didrocks, can I get another top-approve? https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/gcc-4.7-by-default [10:44] davmor2: what 3g issue? the fact that you have to restart nm? === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy === matzipan_ is now known as matzipan [10:54] popey: yeap, that and it only working possibly 90% of the time after a restart. But it's hard to tell till the new code lands what issue is connected to what :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:03] davmor2, no, ask cyphermox_ [11:04] it seems like gdb *always* reports two duplicated frames when trying to do backtrace :-( [11:05] diwic, oh, not sure you saw it yesterday ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6003386/ was my last pacmd list run after the meeting [11:06] With hope that it could make a difference in the future, I report: [11:06] tvoss: done, interesting that the comment doesn't work this way, will note it down :) [11:06] ogra_, yes, I saw it, it looks good enough [11:07] ogra_, I flashed today's pulseaudio image here on Nexus 4, so I'm investigating how things work today... [11:07] didrocks, yeah, seems to only work if at the beginning of the line [11:07] I attempted to use Indigogo to fund but it is not working. I have JavaScript enabled for Indigogo but not others. [11:07] I suppose I may report it to Indigogo also. [11:09] ogra_, and the pulseaudio process hang when trying to make a voice call, and I can't use gdb to figure out where :-/ [11:09] :( [11:15] stupid proprietary blobs [11:15] you have to dance with them their way [11:16] or they hang or segfault [11:21] ogra_, I flashed a new image (without -b or --wipe), should that have brought in the new bluetooth user [11:21] ? [11:21] yes [11:21] well, not a user, just the froup [11:21] *group [11:22] ogra_, hmm, bluetooth:x:109:phablet [11:22] ogra_, (from /etc/group ) [11:22] no, thats definitely worng [11:22] oh, wait, that image is built on jenkins [11:22] it doesnt use the normal build tools [11:23] someone wit access to that part needs to add thesame change there [11:23] * diwic suspect that's why pulseaudio hangs [11:25] diwic, groupmod -g 1002 bluetooth [11:25] and reboot [11:25] (thats what tteh build change does too) [11:25] * diwic tries === tvoss is now known as tvoss|lunch [11:26] when is the touch phone out? [11:27] it will release together with ubuntu 13.10 [11:31] ogra_, okay, thanks, that worked [11:31] great, so the normal image has the fix [11:31] ogra_, do you know who to contact to have this fixed in the pulseaudio image? [11:32] i think sergiuens maintains that [11:32] (but he's not up yet) [11:32] ok [11:34] seb128: hi! I might be wrong, but I don't think you can comment out a line in a list of items if you have the "\" for the line continuations [11:34] mardy, what do you mean? my a11y panel being commented? [11:35] mardy, in the .pro? [11:35] mardy, oh, and hey ;-) [11:37] mardy, I built a deb here, worked fine... [11:38] ogra_, okay, so it seems phone calls are working here, so we should see if they are working on the Galaxy Nexus too. [11:39] ogra_, you don't need to download an entire new image, but an "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install pulseaudio" (so you get +phablet8 version) would be good. [11:40] Sup [11:41] anyone have an fstab file they can provide on a working system from /data/ubuntu/etc/fstab? [11:41] paste it somewhere? === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [11:45] seb128: ah, ok; I thought it wouldn't work :-) [11:45] here is a question.. my device lacks device.fstab in the device folder, because its setup in the init file it seems... or somewhere else.. is having device.fstab a requirement for ubuntu to find your partitions? [11:45] Or does it go off the /dev/disk/by-id and label only? [11:46] seb128: mmm... I can't believe it works, unless qmake is very bizarre [11:47] mardy, calling me a liar? ;-) [11:47] seb128: lol, no, but maybe the deb does not contain all the plugins :-) [11:47] mardy, I'm happy to change it, but I bzr bd from the tree and the resulting deb built fine and doesn't have accessibility installed [11:48] mardy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006131/ [11:48] mardy, that's the debdiff of files between installed version and local deb [11:48] seb128: because you have some characters after the "\", which should always be the last character in the line if you want to concatenate the following line [11:49] mardy, well, are comment lines counted at all in concatenation? [11:49] seb128: right, they are probably excluded [11:49] mardy, but no big deal, just tell me what you prefer and I can change it [11:50] seb128: no no, it's fine, I just didn't expect qmake to be this smart :-) [11:50] ;-) [12:05] diwic, no tone at all on phone calls [12:06] ogra_, you mean ringtone? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:06] i mean nothing ... calling the phone doesnt work at all, if i make a call to my landline i cant hear otr speak [12:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006187/ === tvoss|lunch is now known as tvoss [12:08] recent syslog [12:13] ogra_, okay...what's the current ports and profile? Try setting profile to "HiFi" and ports to "[Out] Earpiece" and "[In] Handset" [12:13] ogra_, pactl set-card-profile 0 HiFi [12:13] ogra_, pactl set-sink-port @DEFAULT_SINK@ "[Out] Earpiece" [12:13] ogra_, pactl set-sink-port @DEFAULT_SOURCE@ "[In] Handset" [12:13] oops [12:13] ogra_, pactl set-source-port @DEFAULT_SOURCE@ "[In] Handset" === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:15] nope, no change [12:16] i can make calls but dont get any audio through once the connection is established ... [12:16] if i call the phone, the display turns on but there is no ringtone [12:17] (and no way to pick up the call intrestingly ... but it is apparently recieved (since the screen turns on) [12:19] paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav comes out of the earpiece btw [12:21] ogra_, that's weird...I think paplay and ringtone would use approximately the same mechanism === dednick_ is now known as dednick|lunch [12:21] ogra_, maybe if the earpiece is weak, the ringtone is also weak [12:22] ogra_, do you hear the ringtone better if you set the output port to "[Out] Speaker" ? [12:22] better ? [12:22] i dont have it at all [12:23] hello [12:23] i wonder if the phone app is simply broken [12:24] diwic, does it work for you ? [12:24] ogra_, I have working ringtone here, yes. And SMS notifications too [12:24] ogra_, they just worked so I haven't investigated what audio path they take [12:24] ogra_, the SMS notification is quite weak though, a small tone only [12:25] sms notification works fine ... but again, no sound [12:26] ogra_, hey i have good news. i got upstart to run, i got the dmesg to show on the cellphone screen, and i made a serial cable for my phone lol [12:26] oh, wait, sound out of the earpiece [12:26] but no ringtone :( [12:26] (sms notofication comes from earpiece now) [12:27] annerajb, dmesg to show on the cellphone screen ? then you did to much :) [12:27] make sure fbcon isnt loaded [12:28] ogra_, i had a warning on the kernel build saying to enable something i did and showed the dmesg but appeared to just hang there so i disable it. [12:28] ogra_, is fbcon a process or a kernel option? [12:29] annerajb, a module or fixed option you most likely have enabled [12:29] else you wouldnt have console output on the screen [12:29] ogra_, but anyway, it starts going wrong already here: module-android-audio-hal.c: set_parameters returned error 1 [12:30] yeah [12:30] its also weird that it seems to try to start pulse so often [12:30] ogra_, you mean this? [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. [12:30] yeah [12:31] looks like it tries that many times [12:31] Mirv: yes it's critical to the 5.1 migration :) [12:31] Mirv: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#patch,all,63291,1 [12:31] Kaleo, surround apps ? [12:31] :) === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [12:31] oSoMoN: woot [12:31] ogra_: woot [12:32] "the ubuntu UI, now in dolby digital" [12:32] woot woot? [12:32] ogra_: ok........ [12:33] ogra_, it only seems to happen at startup. [12:33] ogra_, something to investigate when I have some time left (never) [12:33] haha [12:34] ogra_, sorry. It should be investigated, but right now I'm just trying to get us ready for the bare minimum so we can switch. [12:34] right, as long as the startup doesnt influence that [12:35] ogra_, if you have a bootchart that shows a lot of pulseaudio processes taking up all of your startup time then maybe we should do somethign about it [12:35] ogra_, my device wrote some filse to /var/log/ among them ureadahead printed something that may seem like a probem [12:35] Counted 0 CPUs === rah_ is now known as rah [12:36] diwic, well, i only see one pulse process after booting ... [12:36] and i havent bootchart set up here atm [12:36] so it should be fine as long as it doesnt block the device [12:37] ogra_, anyway, so you have SMS notifications and normal audio playback, but not ringtone. I wonder if ringtone is done in some different way [12:37] we'll do a lot of bootspped analysis once lightdm is in the image [12:37] well, FSVO normal [12:37] ogra_, yeah, they'll quit themselves after noticing that the daemon is running [12:37] it comes out of the earpiece [12:37] and i cant pick up an incoming call ... display lights up, i can unlock but the phone app isnt there [12:37] ogra_, but if you switch port to "[Out] Speaker" it comes out of the speaker instead, right? [12:38] lets see [12:38] (or hear) [12:38] yup, it does [12:38] ogra_, and always, when you're not on a phone call, you should be on the HiFi profile. [12:38] so let me try another call [12:40] Kaleo: ok, filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/1214374 for it. I'm already looking at 5.1.1 a bit, but I'll try out a build of the declarative with that patch. I'll try a build of the current 5.1 with the patch and if I get that building and nothing obviously breaks, I'll copy it to qt5-beta-proper [12:40]