[17:46] <dfarmer> Hi, I'm trying to figure out what the status is with optimus support (nvidia-prime, raring kernel/xorg) -- does it support power management or just acceleration?
[17:47] <tjaalton> just acceleration
[17:47] <tjaalton> and external outputs
[17:48] <tjaalton> although not easy to set that up atm
[17:54] <dfarmer> Alright. Thanks. I may still give it a shot anyway
[17:54] <dfarmer> I've been Googling around and not really finding anything, I guess nvidia hasn't said anything else about power management?
[17:55] <tjaalton> what do you mean by "power management"
[17:55] <dfarmer> Having the discrete GPU switch off when it's not being used
[17:55] <tjaalton> right, not happening
[17:55] <tjaalton> since it needs to draw the screen
[17:56] <tjaalton> several things blocking it, one obvious one is the libGL abi
[17:57] <tjaalton> you can only have one active
[17:57] <tjaalton> in this case it's the nvidia libs
[17:57] <tjaalton> but they're trying to fix that with khronos
[17:58] <dfarmer> Ah ok. I didn't realize the issue there was that fundamental. 
[17:59] <dfarmer> So pretty much what bumblebee is doing with a separate x server and compositing is really the only workable way to have switchable graphics until that gets resolved in the future.
[18:00] <tjaalton> and xserver replaced with something else
[18:03] <dfarmer> Thanks for educating me a bit :)