[00:00] <xyz123> sdb1 to be precise
[00:00] <usr13> xyz123: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #Let's have a look.
[00:01] <usr13> xyz123: (What filesystem is on sdb1?)
[00:01] <xyz123> ext4
[00:01] <bluefox83> think i may have discovered why rsync failed...lol
[00:02] <reisio> cats?
[00:02] <xyz123> usr13: /dev/sdb1 on /media/backup type ext4 (rw)
[00:02] <bluefox83> yes, cats
[00:02] <bluefox83> >.>
[00:02] <reisio> heh
[00:02] <xyz123> ops wrong one
[00:02] <xyz123> but its the same
[00:02] <bluefox83> i don't have ssh server installed on my destination box >.>
[00:02] <xyz123> ./dev/sdb5 on /media/development type ext4 (rw)
[00:02] <nocturnal_> damn why cant any appliation just open
[00:02] <usr13> xyz123: But that is /media/backup.  Where is /media/development ?
[00:02] <nocturnal_> I keep getting loads of sub .in files etc
[00:03] <nocturnal_> dosntt ubuntu have exetutable files
[00:03] <nocturnal_> I need something like ms paint
[00:03] <bluefox83> xyz123: if you want to paste something that starts with / you can hold the shift key when you hit enter and it wont try and run it like a command :)
[00:03] <nocturnal_> i downloaded gpaint
[00:03] <xyz123> ah thanks bluefox83 :)
[00:03] <nocturnal_> idk what to do
[00:04] <bluefox83> xyz123: no problem :)
[00:04] <usr13> bluefox83: xyz123  or just preface it with a nick or a space
[00:04] <reisio> nocturnal_: rm it and sudo apt-get install gpaint
[00:04] <nocturnal_> im new to linux
[00:04] <reisio> nocturnal_: you can install gpaint from the 'Software Center' application, which should have an icon on the left of your screen
[00:05] <usr13> nocturnal_: There are over 1500 nicks on this channel.  You should try and keep it all on one output or it will get so fragmented no one will be able to piece together what you are tying to say.
[00:05] <Nodule>  Where can I find ecological linux system update information?
[00:05] <nocturnal_> ok but its hard to get used to doing that
[00:06] <xyz123> usr13: as root i am able to do anything i want... only when i do it as a regular user with dev as secondary group the permission gets denied :) its odd.... .... what am i missing... and its something extremely silly
[00:06] <usr13> xyz123: Something is extremely silly.
[00:06] <Nodule> Hello?
[00:07] <bluefox83> LOL i think rsync is working now that i am actually doing it right >.>
[00:07] <usr13> nocturnal_: What is an "ecological linux system"?
[00:07] <nocturnal_> ?
[00:07] <Nodule> A system power dependent on ecological update information.
[00:08] <xyz123> usr13: : another piece of puzzle
[00:08] <kostkon> nocturnal_, ecological? what are you looking for exactly
[00:08] <xyz123> usr13: I am able to create a file but not a directory
[00:08] <usr13> bluefox83: Sometimes, when we try really hard to lay out all the details of a problem, we realize what the issue really is.
[00:08] <usr13> xyz123: Something is extremely silly.
[00:08] <bluefox83> usr13: yeah i was trying rsync from teh wrong machine...who woulda thunk it? >.>
[00:08] <xyz123> yes yes :)
[00:09] <usr13> xyz123: But that is /media/backup.  Where is /media/development ?
[00:09] <Nodule> I am reinstalling my system and updating old files, but I am only interested in ecological rosette practices.
[00:09] <bluefox83> so uhm...how do i know how far along rsync is in the data sending? and for that matter...how do i find out how fast it's going and the eta?
[00:10] <usr13> xyz123: It sees as though we might be comparing apples to oranges.
[00:10] <Nodule> It is.
[00:10] <xyz123> usr13: i am now going to shoot myself, because now i am able to create directories...... and no i didn't do any changes :)
[00:11] <xyz123> Somebody is going to get hurtttt tonight
[00:11] <xyz123> muahahahahahahaha
[00:11] <bluefox83> lol
[00:11] <Nodule> What is causing the damage?
[00:11] <bluefox83> i was equally pleased when i made samba work the way i wanted it to the first time :)
[00:13] <usr13> xyz123: One detail that may have gotten overlooked or lost in the shuffle;  If you were to put xyz in group dev, you will won't realize the added  capibilities untill the next session.
[00:13] <bluefox83> lol
[00:13] <bluefox83> that's kind of important to know >.>
[00:14] <bluefox83> pretty sure once i get this stuff sorted i'ma nuke and pave my server box >.>
[00:15] <Nodule> Resources?
[00:16] <xyz123> usr13: thanks for your help :)
[00:16] <xyz123> im out
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> Nodule  are you a comment generating bot?
[00:17] <fmw> I have a problem with my sound: suddenly my left headphone stopped working
[00:17] <fmw> how do I go about fixing this?
[00:17] <usr13> bluefox83: I just  use nfs linux to linux  I may share the same directorie(s) via sambe with MS Windows clients as well, but to me, nfs is a little better to use because in one way or another, it is simplier.
[00:17] <fmw> (it isn't a hardware/cable issue, it works fine under windows)
[00:17] <usr13> *samba* (not sambe)
[00:17] <Nodule> MonkeyDust: Yes, I am a bot.
[00:18] <bluefox83> usr13: yeah but i have a mixed network with windows machines and linux, so in order to keep my files visible to everything i make sure to use samba
[00:19] <usr13> bluefox83: Just my advise, take it or leave it.
[00:19] <fmw> nevermind, I fixed it thanks
[00:19] <bluefox83> usr13: i actually wanted just nfs but my wife couldn't use it on her windows machine to move files over :/
[00:20] <Nodule> ;/
[00:20] <usr13> bluefox83: You missed what I said.  I use both.
[00:20] <bluefox83> oh
[00:20] <nocturnal_> god I have ubuntu already
[00:20] <bluefox83> i did for a while
[00:20] <nocturnal_> HATE
[00:20] <bluefox83> nocturnal_: why?
[00:20] <nocturnal_> HATE
[00:20] <nocturnal_> H A T E LOOK AT ME I CAN SPELL
[00:21] <bluefox83> lol
[00:21] <usr13> bluefox83: (The same directorie(s) can be shared by nfs, even if you are sharing them via samba.)
[00:21] <bluefox83> usr13: i know
[00:21] <nocturnal_> im trying to draw a diagram and it keeps fucking about
[00:21] <bluefox83> nocturnal_: what are you using?
[00:21] <nocturnal_> undo makes puts loads of crap of ages ago all over the page
[00:21] <OerHeks> !language | nocturnal_
[00:21] <nocturnal_> ive tried 4 programs now
[00:21] <bluefox83> well there are like...dozens
[00:22] <nocturnal_> I know and im trying to get something done
[00:22] <nocturnal_> how do I change the mouse sensitivity
[00:22] <bluefox83> i forget....let me look real fast
[00:22] <nocturnal_> omg its on 0 already
[00:22] <usr13> bluefox83: Not sure why there would be dozens. (Sounds way to complicated.)
[00:22] <nocturnal_> im trying to draw a straight line
[00:23] <nocturnal_> how do I delete these paint programs
[00:23] <nocturnal_> i cant see them in file manager
[00:23] <nocturnal_> ive searched
[00:23] <bluefox83> uh...how did you install them?
[00:23] <mehmet> hi
[00:24] <nocturnal_> install centre
[00:24] <usr13> nocturnal_: sudo apt-get remove application1 application2 application3  etc. etc.
[00:24] <nocturnal_> software centre
[00:24] <bluefox83> well then go into install center and click the remove button O.o
[00:24] <nocturnal_> omg do I have to type all this just for something that somple
[00:24] <visualise> bluefox83, less of the attitude please or you will be removed.
[00:24] <bluefox83> you don't have to type anything!
[00:24] <usr13> nocturnal_: It is as easy to remove as it is to install.
[00:24] <kostkon> nocturnal_, use the software centre
[00:25] <bluefox83> visualise: excusemua? i don't have an attitude O.o
[00:25] <usr13> nocturnal_: Yea, typing is really a chore.
[00:25] <nocturnal_> dont be trollin me
[00:26] <nocturnal_> id rather click some buttons ya know
[00:26] <kostkon> nocturnal_, noone is trolling you
[00:26] <bluefox83> nocturnal_: seriously though...software center
[00:26] <nocturnal_> people make typos
[00:26] <nocturnal_> ok I did it in sftware centre
[00:26] <bluefox83> just go in, type the names of the software, it'll show them...OR look in your list of installed apps
[00:27] <nocturnal_> how do I change it so I dont need to type a password to install etc
[00:27] <bluefox83> you don't
[00:27] <bluefox83> that's to prevent someone from breaking your system
[00:28] <nocturnal_> linux has viruses?
[00:28] <nocturnal_> I want a blank password too can I do that
[00:29] <bluefox83> nocturnal_: yes there are linux viruses...no, don't make a blank password, that's bad
[00:29] <usr13> nocturnal_: Keep your comments on one line.  Don't use the Enter key for punctuation. And no, we don't have viruses.
[00:29] <bluefox83> lol usr13 yes there are, but they don't really spread
[00:29] <visualise> usr13, incorrect. if it can run code it can run malicious code.
[00:29] <nocturnal_> I know about the enter key
[00:30] <nocturnal_> ok how do I change it so I dont need to type a password to install/uninstall.
[00:30] <kostkon> nocturnal_, you can't. that's the point
[00:31] <zykotick9> visualise: "malicious code" != self-replicating-code, which IMO a virus must be.  If you run it yourself, with root privs, it's your own fault.
[00:31] <nocturnal_> you guys said you can do anyything with linux!
[00:32] <usr13> visualise: Virus problems are not an issue for Linux  users, you can write all the malicious code you want, but it is not a problem for us because of the filesystem and structure we have.
[00:32] <nocturnal_> its too much hasssle to type a password for this windows dont have this
[00:32] <nocturnal_> ill just get linux AV
[00:34] <usr13> visualise: nocturnal_  ... so for all practicle purposes, we do not have virus problems, therefore, there is no need for anti-virus applications.
[00:34] <visualise> usr13, all it takes is to trick user to install a .deb to replace kernel with a tainted one.. out goes any integrity of designed filesystem/structure
[00:34] <zykotick9> !virus
[00:34] <usr13> visualise: You realize what you are saying, right?
[00:34] <visualise> usr13, it requires root true
[00:35] <visualise> but people like nocturnal_ type password always when asked!
[00:35] <Vivekananda> guys a question. If a modem is lost ( stolen) is there a way that it can be traced ?
[00:36] <Nodule> Vivekananda: What type of modem?
[00:36] <Vivekananda> when I use ubuntu or any other os for internet communication does the modem serial get transmitted along with
[00:36] <nocturnal_> are you sure I cant change the permissions so I can install programs without needing to type a password
[00:36] <datname> if i am using a better gpu this means that the desktop environment will run more fluently?
[00:37] <usr13> Vivekananda: I think it depends on the modem.  (And it is not something we here on #ubuntu are concerned enough enough about to give any qualified answers on.)
[00:39] <usr13> nocturnal_: I don't know, it is not something I've tried to do, (and apparently no one else has either).  It is not something we would want to do.
[00:41] <nocturnal_> would it be 'Run apt-get without sudo'
[00:41] <Vedrit> I'm having some troubles installing Ubuntu Server. I burnt the ISO to a disk using Free ISO, it get's detected just fine, but when it was installing the base system, it repeatedly said it ran into a problem. I'd tell it to try again, and it would work a little further then problem again. This went on for about 10-12 times before it finished the base system. It also had problems detecting my network settings (DHCP), and the Select/Ins
[00:42] <Vedrit> Sorry for so much text, but I wanted to describe my issue
[00:43] <usr13> Vedrit: Did you run a checksum against the ISO?
[00:43] <Vedrit> Everything kind of points to a problem with either the burnt disk or the ISO. I'm burning another disk to see if that's the problem
[00:43] <usr13> Vedrit: First, check the ISO
[00:43] <Vedrit> I didn't see an option to
[00:43] <usr13> Vedrit: md5sum name.iso  and google the result.
[00:44] <Jordon_Ryan> Hello everyone, Jordon_Ryanhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[00:45] <konr> So the ubuntu phone campaign won't complete? D:
[00:45] <nocturnal_> cant I have a simpler password
[00:46] <stelth> Helper
[00:46] <usr13> nocturnal_: You can use any password you want.
[00:46] <nocturnal_> it wont seem to let me
[00:46] <usr13> nocturnal_: It is your system, do with it as you like, but it is a good idea to not use a weak password.
[00:47] <nocturnal_> it says its too simple
[00:47] <maikeldaloo> Hi everyone, I'm stuck with installing Vundle.. is anyone around to give me a hand?
[00:47] <usr13> nocturnal_: I think we have given you all the advise we have about the password issue.  It is your choice what you do with it.
[00:48] <nocturnal_> I dont even have a choice because I dont know how
[00:48] <eden_> can anybody tell me how to remove the bar that ubuntu uses?
[00:48] <ryku> I'm having issues doing a clean install of ubuntu 13.04 64-bit version, it crashes before I can log in!
[00:48] <bluefox83> what bar?
[00:48] <eden_> i did that one time i killed unity shell 2d i think
[00:48] <eden_> dash
[00:49] <usr13> nocturnal_: passwd nocturnal_
[00:49] <usr13> !info passwd | nocturnal_
[00:49] <Vedrit> Okay usr13, I compared the md5 and they match. Do you think I should still burn another disk?
[00:49] <stelth> eden_: the unity dash bar on the left?
[00:49] <eden_> yes
[00:50] <stelth> what do you want it to look like?
[00:50] <stelth> gnome 2 or 3?
[00:50] <eden_> 2
[00:50] <bluefox83> stelth: just install gnome 3
[00:50] <OerHeks> !nounity
[00:50] <konr> :(
[00:50] <OerHeks> gnome2 is dead.
[00:50] <bluefox83> stelth: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[00:51] <stelth> Did you get that eden_ ?
[00:51] <nocturnal_> thanks
[00:51] <eden_> wut?
[00:51] <stelth> the command is apt-get install gnome-shell
[00:51] <stelth> sudo before
[00:52] <Sik> Tried to reinstall Anthy, and turns out I can't because dpkg complains it runs out of memory. I check and turns out the swap partition is disabled. What? Does anybody know how to reenable it? ._.'
[00:52] <usr13> Vedrit:  I don't know.  Possibly.  Having said that, I have burned a number of install CDs / DVDs  and if the ISO was ok, the disk always seems to have come out ok.  BUT, I've used mostly OpenSource CD burning software and am not familiar with the track record of the software you are using. Bottom line; I don't know.
[00:52] <bluefox83> how do i rehash the view of a directory in nautilus /gnome 3?
[00:52] <eden_> stelth, should i install this?
[00:52] <usr13> Vedrit: There is also USB
[00:53] <stelth> eden_: when you are at the login just select the button just above the right end of your password area
[00:53] <Vedrit> True. I guess that would be better
[00:53] <stelth> yeah, it will install gnome 2 and 3
[00:53] <eden_> stelth, i want to have the unity i just don't want the dash bar
[00:54] <w30> Sik swapon maybe?
[00:54] <stelth> Wait, do you just want it to hide like you could do to the start bar in XP?
[00:54] <bluefox83> or like the bar in gnome 3 >.>
[00:54] <eden_> no
[00:54] <Sik> w30: how do I use it?
[00:54] <eden_> i want to remove it
[00:54] <eden_> completely
[00:55] <stelth> You can't keep unity and remove the dash bar
[00:55] <eden_> only this not any features or anything
[00:55] <eden_> i think that i've done it
[00:55] <eden_> i killed something
[00:55] <stelth> I would recommend having it just hide away
[00:55] <eden_> unity panel 2d or the shell
[00:55] <eden_> i think
[00:55] <eden_> i have it hidden
[00:56] <stelth> eden_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9865/how-can-i-configure-unitys-launcher-auto-hide-behavior
[00:56] <w30> Sik, that's a terminal command open a terminal and type swapon -help
[00:56] <eden_> i have it auto hide
[00:56] <eden_> and lowest sensitivity
[00:56] <eden_> that's not the problem
[00:56] <nocturnal_> passwd does not let me use a short/weak/blank password
[00:56] <stelth> eden_: This sounds an awful lot like gnome 3
[00:56] <stelth> there is no dash in gnome 3
[00:56] <Sik> w30: actually looking at /etc/fstab... looks like the swap partition is there, but the name is not the correct one
[00:57] <stelth> you can get it by installing gnome-shell
[00:57] <Sik> How do I get the UUID of a partition?
[00:57] <usr13> Vedrit: Pretty much all the CD burning software applications I've used will give some sort of warning / error if a problem occurs somewhere in the process.
[00:57] <Sik> (and how did sda turn into sdb?)
[00:57] <eden_> stelth, no way in the dash you can search and lot of other stuff too i just want to remove it
[00:57] <w30> Sik, change it but first cp fstab fstab.orig
[00:57] <Vedrit> Well, it could be a problem with the drive. It's really old, it could be getting stuck
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Sik,  sudo blkid for uuid
[00:58] <usr13> Vedrit: But when that has happened for me, it always seemed to be defective media or defective CD burner.
[00:58] <Sik> w30: yeah I know that :P | wilee-nilee yeah saw blkid, trying to figure it out though (-s UUID just gives me the filenames...)
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Sik, Booting a usb will sometimes switch the HD's
[00:59] <Sik> I'm booting from the hard disk
[00:59] <Sik> Looks like at some point it switched it back so USB became sda
[00:59] <Vedrit> I doubt brand-new disks would be faulty. It could be that I'm use a blu-ray to burn them. Oh well. I'm writing to a USB anyway. It's what I had originally planned
[00:59] <usr13> Vedrit: May be a bit of a hastle, but you could grab the ISO from the CD, write it to the HD and verify it again.
[00:59] <stelth> eden_: I haven't heard of it, and can search with the gnome 3 menu really well
[00:59] <eden_> stelth, i don't want to search at all
[01:00] <stelth> So you don't want the bar to the left nor the unity dash home/search?
[01:00] <eden_> wait what bar to the left
[01:01] <stelth> yeah the dash bar
[01:01] <eden_> i don't want the unity dash home
[01:01] <eden_> where there are icons and you can search stuffs
[01:02] <Polyphony> Is this an apropriate channel to ask for help?
[01:02] <w30> Sik, yeah, with all these virtual scsi drives thse days a real scsi drive doesn't stand a chance *smile*
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> Polyphony, This is ubuntu support.
[01:02] <stelth> yeah, install gnome-shell and select gnome classic
[01:02] <Polyphony> wilee-nilee: cool, I'm having some problems with sound in openbox :/
[01:03] <stelth> then you get the classic gnome 2 interface that you are looking for.
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Polyphony, Just post to the channel your best details.
[01:06] <Polyphony> wilee-nilee: cool, I'm running a 64 bit HP g6 with 8GB of ram, and `lspci | grep Audio` returns an AMD nee ATI Trinity HDMI audio controller and an AMD FCH Azalia Controller
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> Polyphony, To the channel not me.
[01:07] <Polyphony> pfft, oops :P
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> 2 audio devices - one used by the hdmi connector. one used by the analog plugs on the pc.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> wuld be my guess
[01:08] <w30> Sik, blkid works for me to show up swap my partition, maybe you need sudo in front?
[01:08] <phillyj> i'm installing a printer and i need to figure out the ip address on it; Do I have to assign one and how?
[01:08] <Polyphony> any ideas on how to set the default to the analog ones? (because you're right about the two audio devices)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> pavucontrol  tool i recall letting me select. or thers some other tools  that let you pick
[01:09] <daftykins> phillyj: typically you can hold a button on the printer to make it print a test report which will detail the network settings
[01:09] <Sik> w30: trying tune2fs now, it shows the UUID of /dev/sdb6 (main partition) but not /dev/sdb7 (swap partition)...
[01:09] <daftykins> phillyj: you'll need to read the manual to find out what button this is
[01:09] <Polyphony> Yeah, but pavucontrol just shows the "dummy" device
[01:09] <Sik> Is it possible for a partition to NOT have an UUID?
[01:09] <histo> Polyphony: sound preferences
[01:09] <phillyj> daftykins: is all zeros; i think i have to assign one
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=relevance&q=switch%20%20audio%20card
[01:09] <daftykins> phillyj: if you started it up with the cable in it could've gotten one by DHCP
[01:10] <Hexagonite> Anyone know a PPA for daily builds of Chromium?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> chrhttp://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu_chromium_daily_builds
[01:10] <phillyj> daftykins: im connected via usb ATM and not ethernet
[01:11] <histo> phillyj: well if it's connected via usb it's not going to get an IP
[01:11] <daftykins> ^
[01:11] <phillyj> ah ok
[01:11] <Hexagonite> Dr_Willis: that adds the dead repository though; ppa:chromium-daily/ppa
[01:11] <phillyj> i understand then
[01:12] <histo> phillyj: plug it in and it should obtain one via dhcp. Then you should be able to configure it further through a web interface at that IP
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> all im doing is googling Hexagonite  i saw several differnt ppas
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> Hexagonite, here is one, there may be more not sure. https://launchpad.net/~cmiller/+archive/chromium-browser-stable-daily
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> the chromium  channel may also have a reccomendation for one
[01:13] <Sik> Do swap partitions have an UUID?
[01:14] <histo> Sik: they should
[01:14] <histo> Sik: sudo blkid
[01:15] <Sik> Whoops wasn't using sudo
[01:16] <Hexagonite> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[01:18] <Sik> How do I switch out of insert mode in vim?
[01:18] <histo> Sik: esc key
[01:18] <Sik> OK
[01:18] <Sik> Er, and to save? I can't seem to remember the correct key x_X
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> might be a good time to rerun vimtutor
[01:19] <Dr_Willis>  :wq
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> write and quit
[01:19] <Sik> Completely forgot about :
[01:19] <Sik> No wonder nothing was working
[01:19] <Sik> OK, rebooting...
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> its all about the modes. ;)
[01:20] <daftykins> i just stay noob with nano
[01:20] <daftykins> it's my friend
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> a noob that knows ^w  means Ctrl-w  ;)
[01:21] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:21] <daftykins> i like to think of it as a letter saluting
[01:21] <daftykins> 'w reporting for duty sir'
[01:22] <daftykins> anywho nn all o/
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> one of the many reasons i really think they need to adopt a differnt editor for the newbie-editor
[01:22] <daftykins> :>
[01:25] <Sik> \o/ Swap partition restored! Now to finally fix Anthy and hope there isn't anything else broken
[01:26] <Sik> ...Anthy is still broken even after I reinstalled it ._.'
[01:27] <Sik> OK, so I press Ctrl+Space and it doesn't work, I try to switch using the iBus menu and it doesn't work either, does anybody know how to fix it?
[01:31] <__machine> is there any way to find out when a fix for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2010/CVE-2010-5107.html might be available on 12.04 LTS?
[01:32] <w30> Dr_Willis, back key  should delete the character you just typed is my requirement for any editor I use.
[01:33] <Sik> Huh
[01:34] <Sik> Apparently Anthy is hogging up all the CPU time (in a Python script?), looks like it got stuck... (in fact shutting down iBus makes the system become a lot faster) Any idea why?
[01:38] <rjknight1> hello, anyone here knows how to set up proxy server for offline update of the clients?
[01:38] <dotyet> hello there
[01:39] <dotyet> need some advice for laptop hardware
[01:39] <dotyet> I am planning to buy one from clevo, model w230st
[01:40] <dotyet> it has nvidia 765m dgpu and intel 4600 integrated graphics
[01:40] <dotyet> comes with optimus technology, and no option to turn it off in the bios
[01:41] <dotyet> does anyone know if this machine will be able to drive two additional 1920x1080 monitors, along with the laptop's own screen
[01:41] <dotyet> in ubuntu?
[01:41] <lvxiang> 求ubuntu中文频道
[01:41] <Sik> !cn
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> dotyet, This is basically support on an installed ubuntu system.
[01:42] <michaelwarbrick_> hi.. i need some tree view disk space program? any suggestions?
[01:42] <styles_> I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive. sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls-utf8,umask=0222 /dev/sdc1 /media/ember but it's not erroring out or anything it's asking me to use ntfs-3g but the ntfs-3g command is doing nothing, just returning to console the usage of it
[01:43] <SchrodingersScat> michaelwarbrick_: ncdu
[01:43] <michaelwarbrick_> is there a gui version?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Do you have a desktop, are you on it, is the ntfs in fstab, three questions here.
[01:43] <dotyet> ok
[01:44] <dotyet> sounds good
[01:44] <SchrodingersScat> michaelwarbrick_: no idea.
[01:44] <dotyet> is there someplace I can get an answer on my query
[01:44] <dotyet> if you could give me a redirect?
[01:44] <styles_> wilee-nilee, I'm live booted into it trying to get it to mount. It is not in fstab (does that make a difference?)
[01:44] <michaelwarbrick_> oh
[01:44] <styles_> gparted says it's /dev/sdc but the partition (which is the full drive is /dev/sdc1
[01:44] <michaelwarbrick_> disk usage analyzer is built into ubutnu!
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> styles_ A live cd?
[01:45] <styles_> yeah
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> styles_, you can't just click it from home?
[01:45] <styles_> I had an issue before with a raid so I reinstalled windows recreated the drive blah blah
[01:45] <styles_> Nope
[01:45] <styles_> 1 sec I'll get the error that is shown in gparted for the reason of the failed mount
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Ah raid important info, I know nothing there.
[01:46] <styles_> no no
[01:46] <styles_> I removed it
[01:46] <styles_> That was why I reinstalled it all. backed it up on anothe rdrive, let windows do it's thing recreated the ntfs drive in ubuntu (live cd) went back into windows, moved data over and then ran the live cd and it wouldn't mount again
[01:47] <Mastablasta> what's up
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> styles_, So it was broken to begin with?
[01:47] <styles_> the device /dev/sdc1 doesn't exist. Failed to check '/dev/sdc1/ mount state no such file or dir /prob /etc/mtab is missing
[01:47] <Mastablasta> I just installed the program Main Menu off of the software center trying to figure some things out
[01:47] <styles_> It was fine when I formated it the first time in ubuntu, then I booted into windows and moved over data and went back to the live cd and poof busted
[01:48] <histo> styles_: did you install using lvm?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Is this a data partition?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> or HD
[01:48] <styles_> HD
[01:48] <styles_> ntfs 1tb no space left just 1 partition
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Data, no OS?
[01:48] <dotyet1> hello there
[01:48] <styles_> just data
[01:49] <dotyet1> I am looking for some advice on laptop for ubuntu
[01:49] <Mastablasta> can anyone tell me how I can make my applications folder more customizable so I can see more Icons im trying to take a screenshot of my linux apps I have so far
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Hard to say, for me, is it acessible from windows, and what is the gparted error?
[01:50] <styles_> yeah in windows it's fine
[01:50] <styles_> gparted says "failed to check '/dev/sdc1' mount state no such file or directory
[01:50] <styles_> but it can see there is a drive that is 1tb
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Open the disk app and look at the smart info if it shows any.
[01:50] <styles_> wilee-nilee, never knew about this app, fancy
[01:51] <styles_> read error rate: good, spinup time: good
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I believe it is on the live cd.
[01:51] <styles_> yeah I have it up
[01:51] <styles_> Really cool utility
[01:51] <styles_> I'm rerunning it
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> helps
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> styles_, So what happens if you just click it from the live cd?
[01:52] <styles_> took a screenshot 1 sec uploading
[01:53] <styles_> http://i.imgur.com/NYYDGSe.png
[01:56] <Vedrit> Wow, I don't know why Ubuntu was having so many problems the first go. Re-running the installation, and it's going a lot smoother
[01:58] <astro5> Does anyone know how i can get SDL2.0? is it available in a PPA for ubuntu yet?
[01:59] <styles_> wilee-nilee, ?
[01:59] <L-sama> can you install the ubuntu application manager on debian?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Not sure what the screnshot means
[02:00] <styles_> that's just the smart data
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I meant clicking on the HD in home.
[02:00] <styles_> I mean it's reading the drive it knows it's ATA
[02:00] <styles_> oo
[02:00] <styles_> yeah I don't see it
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Not in the left panel?
[02:00] <styles_> nope
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> styles_, run lsusb and look for it there
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> styles_,Take a screenshot of gparted looking at it and imagebin it, just checking on some basics.
[02:05] <styles_> wilee-nilee, it's just seeing everything as idProduct          0x0002 2.0 root hub
[02:06] <styles_> http://privatepaste.com/eb921ec22d
[02:06] <styles_> that's the output
[02:06] <xmetal> well i managed to get a few themes for gfxboot (themes for grub) working ...i do need to make some adjustments though .. some of the menus are "off the screen"
[02:06] <ari_> hey guys, I am trying to install openstack neutron-server on ubuntu12.04...saying package not avaiable....i have added deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise-updates/grizzly main
[02:06] <ari_> any clue?
[02:07] <dajepp> I have a dell D620 and I can't get my see my wireless card or networks.  Can anyone help me (ubuntu noob)
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> !find openstack
[02:08] <ari_> ubottu: ya, but not neutron....i do find quantum though
[02:08] <Mastablasta> Is there a way to size the icons in the Applications folder down in 13.04
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> ari_: you know exact packagename?
[02:09] <ari_> lotuspsychje: ya, neutron-server
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> !info neutron-server
[02:09] <ari_> lotuspsychje: neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent
[02:09] <ari_> ubottu: i tried on 13.04 and 12.04
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> !info neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent
[02:09] <NanduX> ari_ did you apt-get update?
[02:09] <ari_> NanduX: yes..as well as upgrade
[02:10] <Vivekananda> hey everyone what is the default admin password for tomcat
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Nothing there are you sure it is showing in gparted?
[02:10] <kostkon> Mastablasta, applications folder?
[02:10] <Vivekananda> I have not installed it but trying to run in ubuntu
[02:10] <Mastablasta> ya in the dash
[02:10] <ari_> Vivekananda: thanks
[02:10] <Vivekananda> for ?
[02:10] <styles_> wilee-nilee, http://i.imgur.com/HzTfYY5.png
[02:10] <Mastablasta> applications in the search apps on dash
[02:11] <styles_> that's what it shows / sees in gparted
[02:11] <kostkon> Mastablasta, ah. dont think so
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> ari_: maybe they removed that package?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Just show gparted without the info.
[02:11] <Mastablasta> isnt there a different dash I can get?
[02:11] <ari_> lotuspsychje: it should be the latest one...replcing quantum...
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> !find neutron
[02:12] <ari_> lotuspsychje: yup..thanks for checking
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> ari_: maybe try a synaptic search?
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> ari_: or apt-cache search
[02:13] <ari_> lotuspsychje: oh, i have to install desktop for that..
[02:13] <ari_> lotuspsychje: ya tried apt-cache, doesnot exists
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> ari_: are you on server?
[02:14] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[02:14] <thepeopleschamp> i am new to ubuntu
[02:14] <ari_> lotuspsychje: yes.i am on a server 12.04
[02:14] <styles_> http://i.imgur.com/EL6HnkT.png
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> ari_: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know your issue
[02:14] <ari_> lotuspsychje: will join...thanks so much
[02:15] <thepeopleschamp> ii think now i have an idea how software market works, is it so that one can add diffrent sources in the app, so the amount off apps are more?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> styles_, If it working windows and not ubuntu, it may just need a chkdsk /f/r hard to say really a new partition should be working, the data might be causing the problem.
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | thepeopleschamp
[02:16] <styles_> wilee-nilee, the data is code (php / .net / java) pdfs, word docs, txt files
[02:16] <styles_> just work crap
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> !language | styles_
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> styles_, not really relevant ubuntu is a bit picky on mounting many times windows will do it and ubuntu wont
[02:17] <styles_> Here, I'll reformat this drive it will mount then I'll go into windows, reload ubuntu and it wont mount
[02:17] <netlar> do do instead?
[02:17] <styles_> humm
[02:17] <styles_> is there a format that is best supported by both?
[02:17] <ResidentBiscuit> Anyone else have java issues with 13.04? Just tried to run netbeans and found out my java is broken. Tried purging openjdk and reinstalling. Nothing
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Is this HD in a external enclosure you purchased bu chance?
[02:18] <holstein> ResidentBiscuit: maybe netbeans is "broken"
[02:18] <Mastablasta> how come i cannot change icon size below 32 lol
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> hmmm wasnt netbeans dismissed?
[02:18] <ResidentBiscuit> holstein: That was my first guess. Invoking java and javac directly also breaks
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> !info netbeans
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> still there :p
[02:19] <holstein> ResidentBiscuit: i add a ppa to get a current version of java, which is not supported here
[02:19] <styles_> wilee-nilee, nope internal drives
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Hard to say, ntfs is a good share parttion especially in that size.
[02:20] <ResidentBiscuit> holstein: Paste of the error http://fpaste.org/33317/96521113/
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I would run a chkdsk /f/r if it were me, however this info is rather confusing. "I'll reformat this drive it will mount then I'll go into windows, reload ubuntu and it wont mount"
[02:21] <styles_> I've formated the drive fresh and in windows copied it from my other drive then rebooted into ubuntu and it was not loading
[02:22] <styles_> I guess I should test to see if I reformat it then reboot if it loads freh
[02:22] <styles_> fresh*
[02:23] <phunyguy> hey guys, thepeopleschamp had some questions for you, and sending him to OT was probably not necessary.  He has questions about typical Ubuntu usage, regarding repositories.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I suspect some sort of data scramble or residual gpt, there are a number of possibilities, all you can do is knock out the varibles.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> styles_, What is the live cd, and the ubuntu install releases?
[02:24] <styles_> live cd
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> I assume you have a ubuntu install as well
[02:24] <styles_> I had the same problem with the install as well
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> styles_,  And what releases?
[02:24] <styles_> 12.04
[02:25] <banner_> Hi, is there a linux mechanism that logs every process that is invoked?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I would run from windows the disc check from a right click in computer on it and maybe a chkdsk /f/r is that does not fix i.
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> !info htop | banner_
[02:27] <banner_> that guys I think that's exactly what I was looking for
[02:27] <ResidentBiscuit> I'm gonna go ahead and say it was a netbeans issue. Java/c from the command line seems to be working now, and I just grabbed eclipse and that too works
[02:27] <holstein> ResidentBiscuit: thats what i think
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> banner_: ps aux can help you out aswell
[02:27] <ResidentBiscuit> Thanks anyways@
[02:27] <ResidentBiscuit> ! *
[02:29] <banner_> thanks lotuspsychje
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Did you make a new partition table when you made that ntfs in ubuntu originally, that may be another possible problem.
[02:31] <nathanbz> anyone know if ubuntu 12,04 will have php 5.4 in its packages at any point ?
[02:31] <styles_> wilee-nilee, yeah I did
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:32] <styles_> wilee-nilee, recreate it in windows? try that? reboot?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> styles_, recreate?
[02:34] <xmetal> brb .. trying http://grub.gibibit.com/ and i sort of got it to work though all of the menus and progress bars are in the same place (top left of the screen when i boot, all overlapping each other)
[02:34] <xmetal> :P
[02:45] <zykotick9> nathanbz: after a release, ubuntu packages don't get version updates (there are a couple of exceptions, but i don't think php is one of them)
[02:47] <Llucid> Hello; A friend of mine is running Xubuntu 13.04 on a notebook, And it keeps dropping the Wifi and asking to reconnect. Is there a line to update wifi kernels/ect?
[02:48] <holstein> a line?.. you can connect it wired to your internet and try upgrading.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if that helps
[02:48] <Llucid> *probook 4440s
[02:48] <holstein> Llucid: it will be chipset specific.. not the model # necessarily
[02:49] <Llucid> holstein: Whats the grep/whatev to list the chipset?
[02:49] <styles> wilee-nilee, just booted into windows, reformatted the drive to ntfs fresh, jump back into ubuntu and POOF same thing, doesn't load
[02:50] <holstein> Llucid: can you not wire the machine up and upgrade the packages?
[02:51] <Llucid> holstein: He has wifi atm, It just drops alot and its pissing him off. And its updated, But if you think it missed something sure i'll tell him to run the line
[02:51] <holstein> !language | Llucid
[02:51] <holstein> Llucid: i suggest upgrading.. and since the wifi is being "problematic", i would just wire up and do the upgrade, and test the wifi again
[02:56] <Shadow}}> holstein: That update line was? again?
[02:57] <holstein> Shadow}}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...or use the update manager if you prefer
[02:58] <Shadow}}> holstein: Thank you.
[02:59] <holstein> Shadow}}: sure.. its a good first step.. let us know if the wifi is the same, or worse, and we'll go from there.. be sure to reboot into the kernel upgrade, assuming there is one
[03:01] <toorealc> fagggg
[03:01] <toorealc> sorry dog attacked m3
[03:01] <Shadow}}> holstein: I'm just trying to help the friend out, I'm the one who installed Xubuntu 13.04 and the one who had to partition the HDD...Because I'm the one whom Securely Erased it while intoxed. I believe... I may of made an error installing the OS onto unallocated space purely.
[03:02] <pumafied> Lol nice job
[03:02] <cornfeedhobo> soo this is a silly question because i should know but i am drawing a blank on ubuntu.... how do i start user space progams on login?
[03:02] <toorealc> ;)
[03:02] <Vedrit> Just to make sure, but I can install stuff like the web server components after Ubuntu Server finishes installing, right?
[03:02] <cornfeedhobo> Vedrit: yes
[03:02] <pumafied> Yup you can install stuff after setup
[03:03] <Vedrit> thought so. Accidentally skipped it and wanted to make sure
[03:03] <pumafied> Sudo apt-get install httpd
[03:03] <pumafied> installs apache
[03:03] <icesword> does cano still do the free shipping CD thing
[03:04] <Vedrit> Oh, well... Apache isn't what I need, since it's not .NET compatible
[03:04] <pumafied> Oh well you can still install servers like the normal ubuntu
[03:04] <pumafied> I just assumed you needed apache as 90% of the time thats what people want
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> cornfeedhobo:  when the user logs in.. in ~/.config/autostart/  normally
[03:05] <cornfeedhobo> Dr_Willis: thank you :)
[03:05] <Vedrit> I'm completely new to Linux/Ubuntu, so I'm trying to be cautious. My website has .asp pages and contain .NET content
[03:05] <icesword> dr wills, free shipping CDs?
[03:06] <OerHeks> !shipit
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> icesword:  not any more.
[03:07] <icesword> okay
[03:07] <MouseTheLuckyDog> I've got a scanned document in pdf. It is rather rather  large I suspect because the fonts are bitmapped. Is there a way to ocr it reliably?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> !ocr
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> gotta love pdf's that are just huge collection of jpg images. ;)
[03:09] <Marlenee> anyone good with script command
[03:10] <Vedrit> Is it normal for Ubuntu Server to take a long time to boot up? I finished installing, and all I see is a blinking cursor
[03:10] <TXRoadkill> ubuntu 13 how can I get a list of the system notices which appear as pop-up messages?
[03:11] <TXRoadkill> I don't always make it to the computer before they fade
[03:12] <Vedrit> It's been about 3 minutes since I finished installing Ubuntu, and I still only have the blinking cursor
[03:14] <OerHeks> TXRoadkill, i think you want /var/log/boot.log
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> styles, Is the HD a seagate perchance?
[03:15] <styles> western digital
[03:15] <xmetal> i have to be honest, in any oS i have nto had luck with OCR
[03:15] <TXRoadkill> Thanks OerHeks, I'll check it out
[03:15] <xmetal> just comes up recognized as jibberish
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> styles, Look up that specific model and ubuntu I believe there were xeveral that did not work withlinux.
[03:16] <styles> wilee-nilee, it's fine I'll format an extra drive to ext4
[03:16] <styles> then copy data over and juse use ext4
[03:16] <styles> just*
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> windows wont read it is all
[03:16] <styles> Yeah
[03:16] <styles> I'll just VM in Ubuntu a windows installation
[03:17] <narini> how can i check whether ubuntu has proper fan/temperature monitoring?
[03:17] <narini> as in, for my specific system.
[03:17] <narini> i'd rather not find out by observing my laptop melting
[03:18] <TXRoadkill> hmmm the boot log doesn't contain those messages
[03:18] <TXRoadkill> I need the log of the system popup messages displayed on the screen
[03:18] <xmetal> i would suspect if your pc melts, you have issues bigger than OS related
[03:19] <narini> xmetal: well i was exaggerating of course, but if my fans don't turn on when they should i could do some serious hardware damage
[03:20] <zykotick9> !sensors | narini
[03:21] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Dr_WIllis: There are still some ambiguities I have with that. The documents I have include diagrams, sometimes the documents have images--sometimes drawn over the test. I need the diagrams left alons. I also need to be 99.999% sure that the text replaced is the text that was there.
[03:21] <narini> zykotick9: do i need to install that package to ensure that Ubuntu actually turns my fans on and off as it should, or does lm-sensors simply let me view that data/
[03:21] <narini> *?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> MouseTheLuckyDog:  i think you got a lot of work ahead of you.
[03:23] <Vedrit> Anyone know why Ubuntu isn't loading? It installed without any error messages, but all I'm getting after POST is a blinking cursor
[03:25] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Also I want the document I'm doing is a dry run. I want to do my best to go paperless, so I want to scan, ocr and and create pdfs.
[03:25] <xmetal> some kind of a grub mishap perhaps?
[03:26] <xmetal> hmmm speaking of Grub ... :) times for a fridge raid ...brb
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> press and hold SHIFT to see if the grub menu shows up. and try the nomodeset option
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> !iomodeset
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[03:29] <Vedrit> Grub installed without any message, and I can't type anything so it's not a console
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> blinking cursor _  at top left = graphics issue. that nomodeset can often fix.
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> or install the proper drivers for your video chipset
[03:31] <Vedrit> Not sure how to do this without anything to type into, but I guess I'll see what I can find
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> press and hold SHIFT to get the GRUB menu (assuming its hidden by default)
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> when you boot.
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> If you cant get a grub menu at all. then grub maynot even be installed properly
[03:47] <ttom> is there a linux command that will retrieve primary&secondary dns servers from dhcp server?
[03:48] <cornfeedhobo> ttom: "resolvconf -u"
[03:48] <cornfeedhobo> ttom: "sudo resolvconf -u" **
[03:49] <ttom> cornfeedhobo: does it put the results in /etc/resolv.conf?
[03:49] <cornfeedhobo> ttom: yup
[03:50] <ttom> doesn't seem like it gives me anything
[03:50] <ttom> will it also retrieve it for an interface that is declared as manual in the /etc/network/interfaces (if that matters)?
[03:50] <cornfeedhobo> hmm i just ran it... works for me
[03:51] <cornfeedhobo> ttom: yeah i dont know about manual interfaces, but i think so
[03:51] <ttom> the thing is ... I am booting my linux through PXE netboot ... as soon as I load it, the network is fine, but no dns info
[03:51] <cornfeedhobo> hmm you could always edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[03:52] <cornfeedhobo> and just add some static nameservers
[03:52] <cornfeedhobo> 4.2.2.3 is pretty fast and amazing
[03:52] <ttom> is it one of google's?
[03:52] <ttom> i know there is 4.4.4.4 and 8.8.8.8
[03:53] <ttom> but both are googles
[03:53] <cornfeedhobo> ttom: nope. i think its layer 2.. no this is like one of the oldest dns servers like it was used in the 90s
[03:53] <cornfeedhobo> 4.2.2.2 & 4.2.2.3
[03:54] <ttom> ok, thanks ... it is indeed level3's
[03:54] <ttom> thank you very m6uch
[03:55] <cornfeedhobo> indeed sir
[04:02] <ChogyDan> halp, my gchat webcam keeps cutting out.  The audio doesn't stay on
[04:02] <ScareCrow_> my apache2 server isnt visable on the internet but only on local network
[04:03] <ScareCrow_> apache is running on ubuntu server 12.04
[04:04] <ScareCrow_> definatly not my router settings
[04:04] <ScareCrow_> seems to be an apache error in how it interacts with ubuntu
[04:05] <ScareCrow_> is anyone here?
[04:06] <Mace268> I had a similar problem with apache once, it was the listen address I had set up in the config
[04:07] <Mastablasta> can you choose between gnome or unity shell at will?
[04:07] <ScareCrow_> mace268 that sounds like the issue im having
[04:07] <ScareCrow_> how did you fix it?
[04:07] <gorgonzola> Hello all! does anybody know how many instances one should run inside a lan? say I have two ubuntu machines in the same lan, nd they're both running their own avahi-daemon... is this ok?
[04:08] <holstein> ScareCrow_: how do you know its not an issue with the router?
[04:08] <gorgonzola> oops, how many instances of avahi-daemon...
[04:08] <ScareCrow_> 2 days of going though this problem on many IRCs and forums
[04:08] <ScareCrow_> even set up a minecraft server to test the ports can be opened
[04:09] <holstein> ScareCrow_: yeah? i would try it locally, and if it works, i would see that the port is forwarded to the local ip, or use a firewall and the DMZ area of the router
[04:09] <gorgonzola> ScareCrow_ what are you trying to do?
[04:09] <ScareCrow_> it works locally,  and the issue is NOT my router
[04:10] <holstein> ScareCrow_: then, apache *is* working.. and you have not convinced me you have tried the DMZ
[04:10] <ScareCrow_> i think its like mace268 said
[04:10] <holstein> ScareCrow_: i didnt have to mess with that, but it could be
[04:10] <ScareCrow_> de-militrized zone.
[04:10] <holstein> ScareCrow_: i literally forwarded the ports
[04:10] <ChogyDan> is there an alternative to gchat that does voip?
[04:11] <ScareCrow_> webmin works, apache does not
[04:11] <Mastablasta> installing gnome shell gonna reboot and see what its like
[04:11] <holstein> ScareCrow_: locally, both work, correct?
[04:11] <ScareCrow_> yes
[04:11] <holstein> ScareCrow_: then, apache *is* working
[04:11] <gorgonzola> wait, the DMZ is kinda of a last resort...
[04:11] <qin> Mastablasta: Why would you reboot?
[04:11] <gorgonzola> did you try forwarding the port?
[04:11] <holstein> the dmz is a tool..
[04:11] <ScareCrow_> i dont think its listening
[04:11] <gorgonzola> (sorry if that's like the first thing you talked about :P)
[04:11] <Mastablasta> because I want to see the feature if it lets me select unity or gnome at login
[04:12] <holstein> ScareCrow_: if it werent "listening", it wouldnt answer locally
[04:12] <Mace268> ScareCrow_, this might help you if it's not your router/forwarding: http://www.moko.ru/doc/apache/bind.html
[04:12] <airtonix> gorgonzola: each machine should have one instance of avahi-daemon running.
[04:12] <qin> Mastablasta: sudo service lightdm restart; is more than enought, but simply log out/in should do
[04:13] <gorgonzola> airtonix: are you sure that that would not provoke conflicts if they are running the same kind of services?
[04:13] <airtonix> gorgonzola: i am positive.
[04:13] <Mastablasta> qin: Ok, thanks I am on a screen says configuring gdm gdm or lightdm?
[04:13] <gorgonzola> airtonix if you have a reference to documentation for that, i buy you a pizza.
[04:14] <qin> Mastablasta: right now you using lightdm, gdm is gnome "native"
[04:14] <airtonix> gorgonzola: lets start with the basics. do you understand what avahi is for ?
[04:14] <ScareCrow_> ill give it a shot mace268
[04:15] <holstein> ScareCrow_: why not try the DMZ?
[04:15] <gorgonzola> yes. i do. i just need to know if the avahi-dns-daemon part will provoke  conflict, as it sounded like it was keeping a cache and functioning as name resolver
[04:15] <Mastablasta> Qin: ok thank you swtiched to gdm to try it out
[04:15] <gorgonzola> whch could get kinda funky if there's like... thre of them
[04:15] <airtonix> gorgonzola: it only announces it's own hostname as a CNAME
[04:15] <holstein> ScareCrow_: when i say "locally", i dont mean "localhost".. i mean, another machine on the lan
[04:16] <ScareCrow_> holstein because i already have,  the issue is NOT my router.
[04:16] <gorgonzola> i see. thank you very much for your help :)
[04:16] <airtonix> gorgonzola: actually it only announces its own hostname > ip as a CNAME after it hears a request for that hostname as a mulitcast queries
[04:16] <Mace268> ScareCrow_, at least you can see if those directives are set if nothing else
[04:16] <airtonix> gorgonzola: no problems.
[04:16] <Mace268> then you can at least rule it out if it doesn't fix it
[04:16] <gorgonzola> even if its serving services like dlna and things?
[04:17] <holstein> ScareCrow_: worked "out of the box" for me.. also, http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ are handy (though not supported here) and basically run live instances you can test with, and remove the OS from the equation, since you are over troubleshooting the router
[04:17] <airtonix> gorgonzola: yes, it also announces services the host machine provides as TXT records
[04:17] <ScareCrow_> thanks mace268 this is something i havent tried yet
[04:18] <airtonix> gorgonzola: you can see this info on your local network with avahi-discover
[04:18] <linuxtech> I'm trying to merge Debiab's and Ubuntu's mailman packages and getting nowhere.  The command "bzr branch ubuntu:mailman" just hangs and the log isn't ging me any clue why.  Any suggestions?
[04:18] <ScareCrow_> holstein: i will install a new OS after this if this doesnt work
[04:18] <holstein> ScareCrow_: that *is* a new os
[04:19] <holstein> ScareCrow_: it will remove the one from the equation that you have installed right now, *without* needing to wipe it.. so you can test
[04:22] <gorgonzola> airtonix: woa, that's convenient. thanks!
[04:23] <airtonix> gorgonzola: seriously, avahi is awesome
[04:23] <gorgonzola> airtonix, yeah, i'm almost 100% sure that my setup is correct
[04:23] <gorgonzola> everyone is doing exactly what they are supposed, i control my music from my phone, etc etc
[04:23] <gorgonzola> but amarok refuses to see my music collection.
[04:24] <airtonix> gorgonzola: do you have port 5353 open?
[04:24] <gorgonzola> where?
[04:24] <airtonix> on the machine where you want to expose your music
[04:24] <gorgonzola> airtonix: nah, im pretty sure its a kde/amarok thing
[04:24] <airtonix> gorgonzola: ok, avahi does a lot of its traffic over port 5353
[04:25] <airtonix> gorgonzola: although you may be having a problem with dlna which would be another port
[04:25] <gorgonzola> let me check
[04:25] <gorgonzola> no, im pretty sure the network part is right
[04:26] <gorgonzola> airtonix: i see everything in avahi-discover. this is local thing in my kde.
[04:26] <airtonix> gorgonzola: ok
[04:27] <gorgonzola> airtonix, but thanks for the tips and the ool!!
[04:27] <gorgonzola> tool*
[04:28] <asafegous> I need a decent a decent rss feed widget for my gnome desktop
[04:29] <asafegous> Any takers?
[04:29] <asafegous> First person to say kde gets shot
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> asafegous, This the gnome shell, unity or the fallback?
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> asafegous, And by the way it is you that needs help there is no shot, lol
[04:30] <pumafied> You could set that up with conky
[04:32] <safridzal> asafegous: widget? is there something wrong with liferea?
[04:33] <holstein> !info conky
[04:33] <holstein> conky is nice since you can take it with you anywhere.. gnome, kde, openbox.. whatever
[04:33] <asafegous> The only rss conky ive seen is a single url reader
[04:33] <holstein> asafegous: run 2 of them ;)
[04:34] <asafegous> Its the the gnome-ubuntu
[04:35] <asafegous> I want to rebuild my rss base and conky aint cutting it
[04:35] <holstein> asafegous: conky will run on that, or KDE, or anything, as i said
[04:35] <holstein> asafegous: ok.. just let the volunteers know that conky is not an option.. anything else you have tried?
[04:35] <asafegous> I didnt like kde last time
[04:35] <holstein> asafegous: no one suggested KDE
[04:35] <asafegous> Desklets
[04:37] <asafegous> Rss ticker was good but it kept scrolling on a single post
[04:39] <Vedrit> I'm in Rescue mode trying to get my install working and see if Grub is missing. Where would I check to see if Grub is installed?
[04:40] <asafegous> Boot?
[04:41] <Vedrit> It doesn't show when I try and boot up the system
[04:41] <asafegous> Are you dual boot?
[04:41] <Vedrit> no
[04:41] <holstein> asafegous: you might like http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/39707/reader-replacements-for-linux-las-s27e07/ as a refrence
[04:41] <asafegous> Good man
[04:42] <cornfeedhobo> Vedrit: /boot
[04:42] <ChogyDan> the mic on my webcam doesnt work anymore
[04:43] <bshah> !give bhushan libxcb-cursor-dev
[04:43] <bshah> !give libxcb-cursor-dev
[04:43] <pumafied> I googled multi line rss conky and the second link has exactly what you want asaf
[04:43] <bshah> where can I get libxcb-cursor-dev package?
[04:44] <asafegous> !help
[04:44] <bshah> !patience
[04:46] <asafegous> L8r yall. Thanks.
[04:46] <holstein> !info libxcb1-dev
[04:47] <bshah> holstein: I am missing libxcb-cursor-dev package for raring.. to build kde framework 5.
[04:48] <Vedrit> I can't try and install grub into boot, it says it cannot read '/boot'
[04:48] <holstein> bshah: its not in the repos
[04:48] <holstein> !info livxcb-cursor-dev
[04:48] <bshah> !info libxcb-cursor-dev
[04:48] <holstein> bshah: i would ask where ever you are getting the framework what you are suppoed to do/have
[04:49] <bshah> I want to build kde-workspace on top of KF5..
[04:49] <Vedrit> in the command line, how do I run sudo commands as root?
[04:50] <somsip> Vedrit: you don't need to. You are already root.
[04:50] <holstein> bshah: nothing in  ubuntu 13.04 is preveting that.. but, you'll need to ask the maintainer what you need, and how to get it
[04:50] <Vedrit> then why can't I do anything in /root? It says permission denied
[04:50] <somsip> Vedrit: or do you mean 'sudo -i' and then you will be using a shell environment as the root user?
[04:50] <holstein> Vedrit: you dont have permission, as that user
[04:50] <Vedrit> er, not root, /boot
[04:51] <ChogyDan> Vedrit: sometimes it depends on how the command is structured, ie, if you are doing piping of any sort
[04:51] <Foxhoundz> anyone here?
[04:51] <Vedrit> I'm typing in "sudo grub-install /boot"
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> I was using xset to adjust my mouse acceleration
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> now the mouse suddenly jumps/warps to the edge when I move it
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> any fix for it?
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> I see it listed as a confirmed yet unassigned bug on launchpad
[04:52] <holstein> Foxhoundz: have you rebooted?
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> oh
[04:52] <somsip> Vedrit: you need a device not a directory. Eg: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:52] <holstein> Foxhoundz: you see what as what?
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> no
[04:52] <Vedrit> oh
[04:52] <Foxhoundz> I see a bug report for this behavior as untriaged on launchpad
[04:53] <holstein> Foxhoundz: the behavior of using xset?
[04:53] <Foxhoundz> Well, this began after using xset
[04:53] <ChogyDan> Vedrit: grub-install takes a partition id, not a folder
[04:53] <Foxhoundz> So I have to assume it is somehow tied to me altering the acceleration settings using xset
[04:53] <Vedrit> ok, lets see if Ubuntu and Grub will load now
[04:53] <holstein> Foxhoundz: i would reboot... and see that the settings dont "persist".. sounds like misconfiguration and not a bug
[04:55] <Vedrit> I have a feeling the issue, whatever it is, hasn't been solved...
[04:56] <ChogyDan> Vedrit: pastebin the commands, and their output
[04:56] <Vedrit> Suffice it to say, it said grub installed with no errors given
[04:58] <ChogyDan> Vedrit:  You have to make sure your bios is booting from the same spot as the grub install
[04:58] <Vedrit> It's booting from the same HD, yes
[04:58] <ChogyDan> no, same partition
[04:59] <ChogyDan> anyway, gtg, gl
[04:59] <Vedrit> BIOS isn't detecting any partitions, and there shouldn't be any partitions
[05:01] <JasonO> Hello
[05:01] <alberto> hola
[05:01] <JasonO> Hi alberto
[05:01] <alberto> hola buenas noches
[05:02] <JasonO> My wireless isn't working on my Toshiba Satellite C55-A5281. I just installed Ubuntu on the machine and the only thing that works is a wired connection
[05:03] <JasonO> I've also checked for drivers, but there weren't any  in the sources.
[05:09] <Vedrit> Okay, I don't seem to be able to get Ubuntu or Grub to load...
[05:10] <somsip> Vedrit: ChogyDan> Vedrit: pastebin the commands, and their output
[05:10] <Vedrit> Booting up, there are no commands or outputs
[05:11] <somsip> Vedrit: You ran 'sudo grub-install /dev/something' earlier. Post the real command you used, post the output, add details about how your drives are configured
[05:11] <Vedrit> I don't have easy access to any of that, I hope you're aware
[05:12] <somsip> Vedrit: I want to try to help but you're giving us no information that is helpful.
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, This a dual boot if so with what?
[05:13] <Vedrit> There's not a whole lot of information. I told Ubuntu to install on a single drive with no partitions
[05:14] <somsip> Vedrit: and what command di you use? What partition is your ubuntu installation installed on? Come on...
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, Run this app from a live cd just the bootinfo summary and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:14] <Vedrit> I entered in "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" because I had no idea where to install it
[05:15] <Vedrit> wilee-nilee: that application doesn't exist as far as I'm aware. If it does, I can't run it becuase I can't run anything
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, Use that app it wil contain pretty much all the info we need with a bunch of questions
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, You can from a live cd look at the link.
[05:16] <anayou> hello
[05:16] <Vedrit> So, another disk...I'm tempted to just say screw it and go back to Windows. At least it installs itself properly
[05:18] <rado_> hi, ubuntu-ers, I am trying to debug mysterious ubuntu 13.04 crashes (probably hardware related, but I want to know which part). Looking at logs I see a wall of ^@^@^@^@^@ chars.
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, You very quickly going downhill here for any good help, we don't care what you run, if you want help read carefully and ask questions where you do n ot understand.
[05:18] <rado_> Does that ^@ mean anything to anyone?
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> rado_, This is ubuntu support that mens at
[05:19] <Vedrit> You guys are asking for info I do not have and cannot quickly get, and offer a tool that will take just as long to get into place
[05:19] <rado_> wilee-nilee: mens at?
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, Takes a couple of minutes to boot a live cd and another to run the app, maybe 5-7 min.
[05:20] <Vedrit> Someone said that Grub is installed on a partition. But There shouldn't be any partitions
[05:20] <Vedrit> No, it's taking 5-7 minutes just to get the disk to boot
[05:20] <Vedrit> It's by no means quick
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, Are you talking about a dd to a partition. ubuntu has to have a partiton.
[05:20] <Vedrit> It asked about partitions and I said no
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, YOU have to have a partition for ubuntu
[05:21] <Vedrit> Well, I don't know where it's at and neither does BIOS
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Vedrit, Well thats it for me you are not even coming close to cooperating, if you run the bootinfo script you will more than likely get to the bottom of this.
[05:22] <Vedrit> bootinfo? I'm assuming that's part of the boot repair that hasn't even finished downloading
[05:23] <Vedrit> Like I said: You're asking for info I don't have
[05:23] <Vedrit> Cooperation or not, I don't have it
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> your making no sense
[05:23] <Vedrit> Just as much sense as you guys are making to me
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> welcome to ignore, have a good one. ;)
[05:24] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: Please stop announcing your ignores.
[05:24] <Vedrit> Like you were helping much anyway
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> I do it all the time I rarely announce it, it seemed more than appropriate, however I will follow your request
[05:26] <foo357> Hello, what other files than /etc/fstab gives instructions on where filesystems should be mounted?
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> rado_, means at.
[05:30] <Datri>  HOLA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <Xahamal>  HOLA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <Lemosx>  HOLA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <Ascla>  HOLA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <pumafied_> Noob question but does anyone know how to list channels with irssi
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[05:30] <Datri>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <Xahamal>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <Lemosx>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:30] <somsip> !alis | pumafied_
[05:30] <Corey> Tht's about enough of that. :-)
[05:31] <Ascla>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:31] <Datri>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
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[05:31] <Macaus>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:31] <Vedrit> looks like some users need to be given the boot
[05:31] <Ascla>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:31] <Datri>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
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[05:31] <deezed> hola! gracias
[05:31] <deezed>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:32] <cebolinha1>  HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUMANOS TONTOS HE VENIDO A SALUDARLOS :D
[05:35] <chiques> .
[05:36] <chiques> .
[05:42]  * gr33n7007h is away: Adriane............
[05:43]  * gr33n7007h is back (gone 00:00:10)
[05:43] <Corey> gorgonzola: Turn that off please.
[05:43] <Corey> Er, that was to gr33n7007h.
[05:44] <Corey> gr33n7007h: Turn your auto-away message off from channels, if you please. :-)
[05:44] <Corey> !ping
[05:45] <MrHotsauce> does anyone know of a dd-wrt support channel on this or any other server?
[05:45] <somsip> !alis | MrHotsauce
[05:45] <MrHotsauce> ah thanks :D
[05:46] <pumafied_> Its a bot(;
[05:46] <MrHotsauce> well thanks to the bot then!
[05:46] <gr33n7007h> sorry
[05:57] <krypto> i set this in limits.conf  www-data        soft    nofile          5000    www-data        hard    nofile  7000
[05:58] <krypto> but still ulimit -a is showing old vlaue
[05:58] <krypto> value*
[06:00] <krypto> does this require system boot?
[06:02] <somsip> krypto: you need to relogin
[06:02] <pumafied_> No you dont
[06:02] <pumafied_> sudo -i -u user will aply it
[06:03] <somsip> krypto: you can do this, but I can't vouch for it: sudo -i -u <user> http://lzone.de/apply%20limits%20immediately
[06:03] <somsip> pumafied_: snap :)
[06:03] <pumafied_> Both googled the same thing lol
[06:03] <somsip> heh
[06:04] <pumafied_> All of these joins and leavings are unbearable I need a better theme that greys them out
[06:04] <krypto> is int same as su www-data verify and exit
[06:06] <somsip> pumafied_: most clients can be set to ignore them
[06:07] <krypto> restarted system still no change
[06:07] <pumafied_> I use irssi
[06:07] <pumafied_> I think that the joins leaves could be somewhat useful at times
[06:07] <pumafied_> but shouldnt be the same color as the regular text
[06:08] <somsip> pumafied_: if you change your mind http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html (I rely on tab completion to see if a user has left)
[06:09] <pumafied_> somsip: Thanks for the tip Im still trying to figure out what would be the best irc experience
[06:09] <somsip> pumafied_: np. Best to add to IRSSI config anyway, but it gives you a way to try different approaches
[06:10] <pumafied_> I feel like such an imposter being on a mac connected to a fedora box and then on an ubuntu channel in irc
[06:16] <the-newsman> i am newbie . i just insatlled ubuntu ver 13. now i cannt fidn the application menu which allows me to see the isntalled aplication hence to run them. plz help me
[06:17] <pumafied_> hit the meta key ( windows flag) to pull it up
[06:18] <the-newsman> th meta key does not do it, instead it runs the search for files....
[06:19] <netlar> quit
[06:19] <thepeopleschamp_> what are the best source i will need to add to software download?
[06:19] <somsip> thepeopleschamp_: depends what you want to download...
[06:20] <the-newsman> i am newbie . i just insatlled ubuntu ver 13. now i cannt fidn the application menu which allows me to see the isntalled aplication hence to run them. plz help me
[06:21] <thepeopleschamp_> i would like a source that has utilities and stuff for custom editing menu bar
[06:21] <thepeopleschamp_> stuff like that
[06:21] <thepeopleschamp_> how do i also add a source?
[06:21] <somsip> thepeopleschamp_: probably best if you find an application you want, then see if it is included in the sources you have. Other than the partner repos (has Skype, for example) I'm not sure what else is there unless you go to PPAs
[06:22] <thepeopleschamp_> ppas?
[06:22] <somsip> !PPA | thepeopleschamp_
[06:24] <RyanZW> trying to get audio out to my tv and sterio via hdmi, the screen is there but no audio?
[06:24] <RyanZW> i installed pavucontrol and see hdmi there as an option, but the audio isn't going out
[06:25] <the-newsman> hey guys
[06:25] <the-newsman> any1 here alive ?
[06:25] <the-newsman> any1 here alive to help me
[06:27] <thepeopleschamp_> https://launchpad.net/~flash-utils/+archive/ppa
[06:27] <thepeopleschamp_> what would actually be the sudo i would have to write in terminal?
[06:27] <RyanZW> card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[06:29] <MrHotsauce> RyanZW: try disabling the other sound souces maybe?
[06:32] <ginus_61> hello
[06:32] <cppCzar> My shell is having an issue
[06:32] <cppCzar> when I'm cycling up through previous commands, the commands begin to be listed on lines above the current line and eventually begin to just create black space across the entire terminal window
[06:32] <cppCzar> I'm on ubuntu 13.04
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me with putting an .img file from raspberry pi onto my sd card
[06:37] <Psil0Cybin> i found a site that shows me the command i need, but i cannot figure out why it says to write to the sd card by writting it to /dev/sdc
[06:37] <cppCzar> Oh, nevermind. This is in psql
[06:37] <cppCzar> wront chat
[06:37] <cppCzar> wrong*
[06:38] <thepeopleschamp_> where does this application save itself ? i am trying to open it after terminal process is over
[06:38] <thepeopleschamp_> To install Compiz Config Setting Manager enter following command in Terminal:
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i formatted an sd card using gparted in ubntu and now i cannot see the sd card on windows
[06:38] <thepeopleschamp_> Terminal Command:
[06:38] <thepeopleschamp_> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-plugins-extra
[06:38] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do to fix this problem?
[06:39] <somsip> thepeopleschamp_: I believe it's 'ccsm' in terminal
[06:39] <thepeopleschamp_> what do i type?
[06:39] <somsip> thepeopleschamp_: c, then a c, then an s, then an m, then press enter
[06:39] <thepeopleschamp_> can i find it in apps location later?
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> can someone help me figure out why my sd card cannot be seen my windows
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> after formatting it with gparted
[06:40] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[06:42] <thepeopleschamp_> anyone know bout a nicr .icc file? so i can get the best colors ?
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, What did you format it as?
[06:49] <bsmith093> my swap is completely full, is there any way to free it up without a reboot, i cant find whats using it
[06:49] <somsip> bsmith093: swapoff -a && swapon -a
[06:50] <bsmith093> somsip: with or without sudo
[06:50] <somsip> bsmith093: with other varants here: http://www.linuxnetadmin.com/2008/11/clear-swap-space-in-linux.html
[07:07] <benjudah> hey all
[07:10] <Hawthorn> hey guys
[07:11] <Hawthorn> question: has anybody else noticed a problem when auto-updating 12.04 to the latest kernel (3.5.0-39)? it doesn't boot for me anymore, saying something about roof fs not found bla bla
[07:11] <Hawthorn> 3.5.0-36 works fine though
[07:12] <t4nk739> Has anyone every tried to install graphic driver of AMD HD 8760A / 8750M on ubuntu
[07:12] <t4nk739> and i type aticonfig after install the catalyst
[07:13] <t4nk739> it says "not supported adapter is detected"
[07:13] <Hawthorn> did you check with the compatibility list on the AMD site?
[07:13] <toshiba-user9392> < Installed Ubuntu 12.04 with ubuntu-lxde-desktop.  Problem is the USB devices mount read only. I want all usb devices mounted with write permission.
[07:14] <Hawthorn> while the gpu you are using isnt thaaaat new, you need to make sure the driver supports it. amd is a bit slow with adding new devices sometimes
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> toshiba-user9392, how are they formatted?
[07:15] <toshiba-user9392> willee-nilee..my 4g usb drive is ext4 and SD Card is fat32.  Both mount read only
[07:16] <toshiba-user9392> Its a real pain having to open a root window to save files to usb/sd.  I need them to open/mount as root when plugged in.
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> toshiba-user9392, Are they read write in other OS? strange they would not be in this.
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> as root?
[07:16] <t4nk739> Hawthorn Can  iahve the link ?
[07:17] <xmetal> oh dang it i just remembered i forgot to redownload the kernel debs i need (having issues with dpkg)
[07:17] <toshiba-user9392> wilee-nilee..I have to open a root window in pcmanfm to save to usb/sd.  Does the same on my other ubuntu laptop also (mounts read only).
[07:17] <netlar> Are there free english dictionary files for GoldenDict?
[07:17] <Hawthorn> t4nk739: http://support.amd.com/de/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[07:17] <Hawthorn> that's the latest stable
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> toshiba-user9392, Never seen that happen with a fat32 an ext4 needs permission basically.
[07:19] <toshiba-user9392> wilee-nille..Whatever the problem..I need ALL USB/SD devices mounted read/write when i plug them in.  (a universal setting?)  But for some reason they only mount read only.
[07:19] <t4nk739> it is listed on http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-8LINBetaDriver.aspx
[07:19] <t4nk739> here
[07:20] <t4nk739> i just assumed that mine is under AMD Radeon™ HD 8700M Series
[07:21] <xmetal>  hmm
[07:21] <Hawthorn> so you installed the 13.8 beta?
[07:21] <t4nk739> however, my another graphic card which is 8670A is not on that list
[07:21] <t4nk739> yes
[07:21] <xmetal> i wonder if what is going on here could be a possible permission issue
[07:21] <t4nk739> i have instaalled it on
[07:21] <t4nk739> ubuntu 13.04
[07:21] <Amnuriak> I'm trying to set up my Ubuntu so the apache httpd running on it can use kerberos. I've successfully done the ground work (kinit and klist give me a ticket) but I fail to create this "keytab" file that supposedly needed for httpd. I followed this guide: http://acksyn.org/?p=460. Joining the domain (for samba) fails and creating the keytab on the pdc itself fails too :-(
[07:21] <Hawthorn> i guess that's one for the AMD forums
[07:21] <Hawthorn> :\
[07:22] <t4nk739> AMD forums?
[07:24] <toshiba-user9392> If i format a device with "sudo gparted" will the device be formatted with user permission to read write?
[07:24] <toshiba-user9392> Because that's how i formatted my usb, by using sudo gparted and selecting ext4.  Now it mounts read only
[07:25] <toshiba-user9392> never mind.  I'll just chmod 777 the device manually
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> toshiba-user9392, you would use gksudo but opeing it with a terminal is well pointless.
[07:26] <toshiba-user9392> ok
[07:27] <xmetal> jmm
[07:28] <oana_> Hello, I've got a problem with gcc/g++/build-essentia
[07:28] <bitnumus> Hi, can someone tell me why 'wineserver' would be running, when the package 'wine' isnt installed on my system?
[07:28] <smartboyhw> oana_, what's the problem?
[07:28] <oana_> I had the gcc 4.7.2 version but wanted to install cuda so I wanted to remove it and add the 4.4 version
[07:28] <furoido> #django
[07:28] <oana_> then everything went wrong :/
[07:29] <furoido> aw
[07:29] <furoido> cant join in
[07:29] <oana_> couldn't completly uninstall the gcc4.7 but couldn't install the gcc 4.4. either
[07:29] <oana_> then I tried to do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6005504/
[07:29] <xmetal> sounds lime me on a different non-debain distro
[07:29] <xmetal> :))
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> bitnumus, How do you see it running?
[07:30] <bitnumus> netstat -tupln
[07:30] <oana_> oh, and the first error I've got when I first tried to uninstall/install gcc was this error: alternative path /usr/bin/gcc doesn't exist
[07:31] <bitnumus> ahh, wilee-nilee looks like teamviewer
[07:31] <bitnumus> starting on boot for some reason, lovely
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> ah teamviewer netstat is a ms as well right?
[07:32] <bitnumus> all gone now :P
[07:33] <helmut_> hi
[07:33] <Hawthorn> uhm, so i guess nobody has a solution to my "root fs not found" problem during boot? :D
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, Do you have home separated, and have you checked the uuid in fstab?
[07:35] <Hawthorn> well, the entry for root just points to /dev/sda3 for the defunct kernel, the one that works has a funky hexadecimal number
[07:36] <Hawthorn> but i tried adding the uuid entry to the current kernel and it didn't work either
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, None of that makes sense to me, you wil have to outline how you set up your partitions and if this is customized beyand a root and home what you have done.
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> cou;d just be that kernel is broken, it happens
[07:39] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee: uh, i guess i'll just post you a sudo fdisk -l. give me a sec
[07:39] <sigtest1> hello
[07:40] <Hawthorn>  wilee-nilee http://paste.ubuntu.com/6005524/
[07:41] <sigtest1> hello
[07:41] <sigtest1> where
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, You have a kernel that works but the latest update has this error right?
[07:42] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee, yeah 3.5.0-36 works, everything above doesn't
[07:42] <sigtest1> there is my first time,where others
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, Those above are upgrades form the repos, how many sets?
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> from*
[07:43] <nuc> questo compiz è una tortura
[07:43] <sigtest1> china
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> I don't run 12.04 is all
[07:43] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee uhm, sets? :D
[07:44] <xmetal> i am having kernal issues on one of my distros (dpkg is compllaining) but i am too lazy (not in that distro atm) to redownload the debs atm
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, Kernels have boot and recovery a set
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> !it | nuc
[07:45] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee oh you want to know how many kernels i have in grub?
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, I can't tell if the word those is a plural, meaning more that one kernal.
[07:45] <fudus> when does ubuntu clean up old kernels anyhow? i have three now from updates
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> above the one that works
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> fudus, YOu have top do it.
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> to*
[07:46] <fudus> not automatic then? hm
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> no
[07:46] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee oh, i only have 3.5.0-36 (works), 3.5.0-37 (doesn't work) and 3.5.0-39 (doesn't work either)
[07:46] <Hawthorn> cleaned up a while ago
[07:47] <Hawthorn> ubuntu tends to give me a hard time when my /boot partition is close to being full
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, Not sure to be honest.
[07:48] <fudus> i thought the installer used one big partition by default now
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> it has since I started with 6.0
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> 0r 6.04 whatever it was
[07:49] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee yeah i am not sure what it could be either, hehe.
[07:49] <Hawthorn> only thing i noticed is that the entries for -37 and -39 point to /dev/sda3 and not a UUID
[07:49] <idodeisuke> you know any program under ubuntu in particular and linux in general, that can convert roman numerals into normal ones?
[07:50] <Hawthorn> in grub
[07:50] <xmetal> hmm think the kernel "my" distro is goofing up on is 3.50.36
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Hawthorn: That probably means that they don't have a corresponding initramfs (searching for the root filesystem by UUID requires an initramfs).
[07:52] <Hawthorn> Jordan_U why does this make me feel like this will involve some headdesking further down the line?
[07:52] <Hawthorn> :\
[07:52] <roninn> what would you recommend as the ulimit (memory limit) value per user when I have something like ~30 users, memory is 4GB. now the value is 256MB, but it gets easily over that
[07:53] <Hawthorn> honestly, i love ubuntu, i just dread the moment when i have to do a kernel update because something always goes wrong for me, lol
[07:53] <fudus> idodeisuke,  http://www.periodni.com/roman_numerals_converter.html does roman > arabic
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, Why the boot partition, I think that is the problem as far as setting it up to run corrctly, I have never had one in 6 years.
[07:55] <idodeisuke> fudus: Thx, but I kinda wanted to have an offline-solution.
[07:55] <xmetal> i will not say the distro (i get grief when i do) but i will say compared to that, kernel upgrades in ubuntu are easy
[07:55] <xmetal> :)
[07:55] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee well, i run a dual boot with windows and i had to use a boot partition because otherwise grub would come up with very funky errors in 11.04
[07:55] <roninn> do you think I should get more memory for this one http://codepad.org/PjIbdpuh
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, I have 4 OS one is W8.
[07:56] <fudus> there's one in perl, but no idea how to install use it in ubuntu http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man3/Roman.3pm.html
[07:56] <auronandace> Hawthorn: 11.04 is no longer supported
[07:56] <xmetal> i have a number of OS's on a few PCs
[07:56] <Hawthorn> running 12.04 now
[07:56] <nydi> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, Are you using grub legacy?
[07:56] <nydi> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:56] <Hawthorn> i just used the same partition structure i used for 11.04
[07:57] <nydi> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:57] <FloodBot1> nydi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <nydi> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:57] <ulaelin> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
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[07:57] <xmetal> i just learned how to "Theme" grub 2
[07:57] <xmetal> :)
[07:57] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee i did a complete reinstall from CD (because the distribution upgrade went wrong horribly) so i doubt that
[07:57] <vaytrem> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:57] <ulaelin> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:57] <FloodBot1> vaytrem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <FloodBot1> ulaelin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <xmetal> came out pretty good for my first try
[07:58] <xmetal> hmm  @ floodbot .. flooding my screen
[07:58] <xmetal> :P
[07:58] <xmetal> but thank you floodbot for blocking the riffraft
[07:58] <nydi> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
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[07:58] <xmetal> hmm the kids are up now i see
[07:59] <nydi> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
[07:59] <fudus> spambots whee
[07:59] <somsip> !ops | spam
[07:59] <idodeisuke> !ops nydi
[07:59] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee i just checked, at least i have no legacy packages installed that i can see
[07:59] <legigohar> L'avenir des réseaux IRC c'est nous ! irc.blueirc.fr ! www.blueirc.fr !!
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[08:00] <wilee-nilee> Hawthorn, A fresh install of 12.04 would be grub 2
[08:00] <FloodBot1> legigohar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:00] <ashton> Can anyone answer a question?
[08:00] <Hawthorn> wilee-nilee yeah it's grub 2
[08:00] <xmetal> yes
[08:00] <xmetal> (that was my answer)
[08:00] <xmetal> next
[08:00] <xmetal> :P
[08:00] <somsip> !anyone | ashton
[08:00] <ashton> Oh aha i like that one
[08:01] <ashton> lol
[08:01] <ashton> SO, i wanna create a .iso out of my oblivion cd
[08:01] <ashton> but how
[08:01] <Hawthorn> i'm just wondering at which point exactly grub says "hey harddisk, i know you, let's boot!" and why it is "hey, harddisk you don't exist! let's not boot!" for a newer kernel <.<
[08:01] <somsip> ashton: what is 'oblivion'? Data or audio or what?
[08:02] <ashton> data, it is a video game
[08:02] <somsip> ashton: so it's a DVD?
[08:02] <ashton> muhh yeah i guess.?
[08:02] <ashton> okay well no sorry, yes yes, it is
[08:02] <somsip> ashton: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147800/ripping-dvd-to-iso-accurately
[08:03] <Hawthorn> though i have to say this is at least not as bad as the last time i updated when it effed up my apt :D
[08:03] <ashton>  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image_name.iso
[08:03] <ashton> How does this command work
[08:04] <ashton> this is my first ubuntu/linux computer
[08:04] <somsip> ashton: dd makes a direct copy. It takes input from Input File (if) and outputs to Output File (of)
[08:04] <gvo> It makes an bit for bit copy
[08:04] <ashton> now how do i find the if for my dvd
[08:05] <gvo> At least on my system cdrom is the generic for both cd and dvd.
[08:17] <Shirakawasuna> Trying to install ubuntu on someone else's computer. It's stuck at the page where it says 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' (selecting whether to download third-party software, etc.). I clicked 'continue' and it's just sitting there, apparently doing nothing. Is this sometimes normal or should I be worried? This is a slightly older computer, probably from ~2008 or so (single-core AMD CPU).
[08:18] <Shirakawasuna> I've made sure that I'm using a 32bit ISO
[08:20] <sigtest1> hello
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, How much ram does it have, I would check the hardware in general against ubuntu.
[08:27] <Shirakawasuna> 3Gb
[08:27] <Shirakawasuna> and the liveCD boots up fine (on a usb drive)
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> Shirakawasuna, Did you tick the update on the install, what is it you are actually seeing?
[08:28] <Mrokii> Hello. I've read a tip about assign the forward-/backward buttons on a logitech mouose to Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V (on Windows). Is it possible to assign the buttons the same way on Ubuntu?
[08:28] <Shirakawasuna> wilee-nilee: I'm seeing the 'busy 'cursor and a the window I described
[08:28] <Shirakawasuna> well actually now I'm not because I clicked 'quit' and am now partitioning manually to see if it helps
[08:39] <Shirakawasuna> sweet, it was the partition thing
[08:40] <Shirakawasuna> manually partioning fixed it
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> cool
[08:45] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone, I have just updated my 12.04 LTS and after the required reboot it boots without the grafical desktop
[08:45] <Moscherkobold> any ideas
[08:49] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: what did you upgrade from ?
[08:50] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: the automatic update service
[08:50] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: I mean which version ?
[08:51] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: it´s still the same version, 12.04. It was just a components upgrade
[08:51] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ah, just an update
[08:51] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: what video card do you have ?
[08:52] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: ikonia sry for the wrong word :)
[08:52] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: not at all, just as much my fault
[08:52] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: nvidia... i have to look up the details
[08:52] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's enough for the moment
[08:52] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: did you get any nvidia stuff from nvidia.com ? or did it all come from the package manager ?
[08:53] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: hmm most probably everything is from the package manager
[08:53] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: need to be certain of that, it's important
[08:56] <guest09013651> hello
[08:56] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: I´m sure i have not downloaded something from nvidia but maybe i have used the additional drivers feature
[08:56] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's ok, thats the correct process
[08:56] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's good
[08:56] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: two final questions, then we can look at it properly
[08:56] <lansing> hello i am new
[08:57] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: 1.) I assume this is a physical machine - not a vm
[08:57] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: 2.) do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos on your system (or have you had any)
[08:57] <guest09013651> using a NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 (GS119), why is it that Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is stuttering like mad, while 13.04 (and 13.10 daily) is much more fluid (experience based on live cd)?
[08:57] <guest09013651> -GS119+GF119
[08:58] <ikonia> guest09013651: the livecd doesn't have the propitary drivers in place,
[08:58] <ikonia> guest09013651: look what xorg modules are being used, compare them, and if needed correct them to the right modules
[08:58] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: 1. not a virtual machine 2. i dont think so
[08:58] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: can you check cna confirm 2 please - again important
[08:59] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: sorry, "check and confirm 2 please"
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> guest09013651: later xorg and kernel etc can help
[08:59] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: how can i do this? :(
[08:59] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so you'd know if you'd installed any PPA's - that's a good enough for the moment
[09:00] <guest09013651> ikonia: thanks for your reply. yeah, but i am talking about 12.04 live cd and 13.04 live cd, so both without proprietary i guess.
[09:00] <ikonia> guest09013651: yes, and I'm telling you that's why it's not working well
[09:00] <guest09013651> one stutters, the other doesn't (or, well, let's says stutters much less)
[09:01] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: can you run this command "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[09:01] <sigtest> hello
[09:01] <guest09013651> [10:58] <ikonia> guest09013651: look what xorg modules are being used, compare them, and if needed correct them to the right modules <--- do you happen to have a useful link at hand which explains how to do it?
[09:01] <sigtest2> hello
[09:02] <mariachi> hello! just installed 13.04 and steam is super slow. if I make a desktop shortcut to the games and use them, the game crashes after displaying a black screen. Steam runs fine with noveau though (Im using 304 proprietary now, because with noveau some games are not supposed to run). Any ideas? I'm new to Ubuntu (not linux though)
[09:02] <ikonia> guest09013651: the issue will be something along the lines of the oder version of noveau drivers on the 12.04 cd do not work as well as the newer versions on 13.04 - this is normally fixed by using the proptitary drivers, but as these are not on the livecd - you are stuck with the weaker noveau ones
[09:02] <ikonia> guest09013651: that is the most realistic issue (without doing a real investigation)
[09:03] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: done
[09:03] <Moscherkobold> "failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist) ...
[09:03] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, that's useful
[09:03] <Kartagis> hi
[09:03] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: so the reason it's failing is because the module nv isn't there - the question is why and what we do to fix it
[09:03] <k1l_> kernel headers installed?
[09:04] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: the nv module is the open driver, have you considered using the propitary ones ?
[09:04] <Ben64> i don't think "nv" is the right module name
[09:04] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: or do you want to fix the the loading of the open ones
[09:04] <ikonia> Ben64: legacy novau
[09:05] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: what do you suggest? :)
[09:05] <Kartagis> when I was installing ubuntu, I chose LVM installation, and now it tells me "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present"
[09:05] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: it depends if you've had good results with the nv module in the past, I personally use the propitary modules as they give better support normally, but it's personal opinion
[09:05] <Kartagis> what gives?
[09:06] <ikonia> Kartagis: is it ready or present ?
[09:06] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: should I write down some more details of the log here?
[09:06] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's enough for the moment, I think we have the basics of the problem
[09:06] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: just need to decide how to fix it
[09:06] <Kartagis> ikonia: yes, afaik
[09:06] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets do something simple, are you comfirtable using a text editor ?
[09:06] <ikonia> Kartagis: how have you checked ?
[09:07] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: comfortable with a text editor even
[09:07] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: we will see, let´s try :) i think i will start with the open one
[09:08] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, I need you to open one using "sudo" and edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you have one)
[09:08] <Kartagis> ikonia: sudo fdisk -l gives me Disk /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:08] <ikonia> Kartagis: you don't partition a logical volume
[09:08] <ikonia> thats it's whole point
[09:08] <ikonia> it's a volume, not a disk
[09:08] <Kartagis> ikonia: I know, I have typed this to check its existence
[09:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: fdisk doesn't show if it exists or if it's valid
[09:09] <Kartagis> fdisk -l did
[09:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: fdisk shows physical partitions/disks partition table
[09:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: it doesn't
[09:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: actually - you want to argue it, you know better, good luck
[09:10] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: is it possible that this file does not exist?
[09:10] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: yes, totally
[09:10] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf will check if it does
[09:10] <blarghl> Hey all. I have a question about trackpads in Ubuntu/Linux. This is absolutely not meant to be a troll question, though I realise it sounds that way, but... when are trackpads going to stop sucking ass in Linux? I have a multi-touch trackpad. I used to use Linux many years ago before I switched to shiny OS X, but I want to switch back to Ubuntu now. I feel like my grandmother must feel using a computer though. I have zero accuracy, it constantly cl
[09:10] <Kartagis> ikonia: I'm not saying I know better. I'm just telling you what I see and here it is: http://paste.debian.net/27398/
[09:11] <blarghl> Is there an effort being made to fix this? Can I somehow contribute to it?
[09:11] <Shirakawasuna> for me, trackpads are much nicer in linux than in windows, blarghl. And using gestures is pretty limited when DEs themselves offer no real functions for them
[09:11] <Shirakawasuna> e.g. what does KDE do with a four-finger swipe?
[09:12] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: i was wrong the file is there
[09:13] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I don't even care about gestures. I care for basic basic basic things, like being able to rest my thumb on the lower part of my trackpad (since Macbooks have no actual buttons anymore.) I want to be able to click without the mouse pointer moving (because it interprets my finger pad pushing down as a movement of the cursor just before the click event fires). I care about selecting text working properly: pretty much impossible currentl
[09:13] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's fine, lets edit it
[09:13] <anonee> hello? I have a process running as root with pid:?, program: unknown TCP how can I get to know what's this?
[09:14] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes, and that's why I've told you 3 times "fdisk does not provie it's ready"
[09:14] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I think if I had physical buttons on my trackpad I'd be able to cope, but more and more laptops are moving to buttonless trackpads and the support for them is really bad.
[09:14] <ikonia> Kartagis: but you want to argue it,
[09:14] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: all of those things work fine out of the box for me
[09:15] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: make sure you have palm detection turned on, wherever that is in ubuntu nowadays.
[09:16] <Kartagis> ikonia: so, what do I do? does LVM actually use swap? if it doesn't, do I remove it from /etc/fstab?
[09:16] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: Don't take offence at this, but I wonder if it's Stockholm Syndrome in your case. Have you tried using a trackpad in OS X? I went a week with the best intentions and seriously wanting to stay with Ubuntu but on the same machine the same trackpad was so bad I couldn't do even basic tasks after a while.
[09:16] <sree> hi sir
[09:16] <sree> hello
[09:17] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I intend to try it again very soon and playing with it a lot more, but yeah. In direct comparison, it was genuinely painful to use, and that's _such_ a shame.
[09:17] <guest09013651> ikonia: just wondering: let's say someone has a NVIDIA GeForce series 6 or series 7 GPU. NVIDIA seems to have stopped releasing new drivers for those recently. the latest driver says "Added support for X.org xserver ABI 14 (xorg-server 1.14)" in it's changelog. what will be the last Ubuntu version that can be uses with a GeForce 6 or 7 with using proprietary drivers?
[09:17] <sree> hii sir
[09:17] <sree> how to recover the deleted files
[09:17] <mariachi> hello! just installed 13.04 and steam is super slow. if I make a desktop shortcut to the games and use them, the game crashes after displaying a black screen. Steam runs fine with noveau though (Im using 304 proprietary now, because with noveau some games are not supposed to run). Any ideas? I'm new to Ubuntu (not linux though)
[09:17] <guest09013651> -uses+used
[09:17] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: Yes I've used mac trackpads. They are actually not that great, particularly since they're clickpads
[09:18] <sree> how to recover the deleted files
[09:18] <ikonia> guest09013651: I'm not aware of those cards being dropped - just no additional development, I could be wrong though
[09:18] <sree> how to recover the deleted files
[09:18] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: I can not open this file, i have tried gedit
[09:18] <jpds> sree: Backups.
[09:18] <ikonia> Kartagis: lvm swap partition is just that - a swap partition, you don't need it, I suspect it's not marked as swap
[09:18] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I dislike clickpads too, but they genuinely work well in OS X. If I have to, I'll take a mouse along with ubuntu, but I'd rather not :(
[09:18] <sree> no back up sir
[09:18] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:18] <jpds> sree: Then there's your answer.
[09:19] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: My trackpad is much more accurately responsive, on my thinkpad. It actually goes where I want it to. I can also click + drag very easily, which requries not using the clicking part of a clickpad
[09:19] <sree> i dont have backup sir
[09:19] <jpds> sree: Then you've lost your files.
[09:19] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: I also have physical buttons, so I can simulate middle clicks
[09:19] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I mean, I fully expect some trackpad drivers to work better than others.
[09:19] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: ah gedit does not work without a grafical desktop, right? :) sry
[09:19] <ikonia> Kartagis: is this a post install error or an error in the installer
[09:19] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: And as I said, I expect that physical buttons work better than clickpads.
[09:19] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: correct,
[09:19] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: I also use my keyboard for most things because it is simply much faster than gestures or having  a needlessly huge trackpad (some kind of placeholder for a tablet or something)
[09:19] <Kartagis> ikonia: during boot
[09:20] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: ok file is open :)
[09:20] <ikonia> Kartagis: so it's probably either the volume is not ready, or not marked as swap,
[09:20] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: search for a line that says Driver "nv"
[09:20] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I do too, but trackpads help when you're not yet comfortable with keyboard shortcuts in a new OS.
[09:20] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: So while mac users are clicking around trying to find their windows, I'm breezing along with 6 desktops and getting things done
[09:20] <ikonia> Kartagis: try to swapon the swap volume manually
[09:20] <Kartagis> ikonia: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1    none            swap        sw                        0       0 <--- this is what I have in fstab
[09:21] <ikonia> Kartagis: forget fstab, try to swap it on manually
[09:21] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's either a.) not active b.) not formatted for swap
[09:21] <Kartagis> ikonia: how do I check whether it's marked as swap?
[09:21] <Shirakawasuna> blarghl: maybe you should stop trying to make your linux machine act like a mac? Learn your shortcuts. And tweak your synaptics settings, since the defaults are apparently not turned on or something (like palm detection).
[09:21] <guest09013651> ikonia: looks like you're right: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html
[09:21] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: Hey now, so am I. OS X is mostly fine with keyboard shortcuts too. :) It's just a matter of learning a new set, especially since in Linux the keyboard shortcuts aren't as unified as in OS X.
[09:21] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: this file seems almost empty... only 6 lines?
[09:21] <ikonia> Kartagis: for the last time - try to swap it on manually !
[09:21] <Shirakawasuna> you can also mess with palm detection settings
[09:21] <ikonia> guest09013651: so I wouldn't worry
[09:21] <Shirakawasuna> it's all in synaptics
[09:21] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: thats not a bad thing
[09:22] <blarghl> Shirakawasuna: I never said I was. All I said was that I'd like my trackpad to work. :)
[09:22] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: is the "driver "nv"" line there ?
[09:22] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: no
[09:22] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's a bit frustrating
[09:22] <guest09013651> ikonia: =)
[09:22] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: is there any "Driver" lines
[09:23] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: no, should i write these 6 lines here?
[09:23] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: no,
[09:23] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: is there a line that says "driver" ?
[09:23] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: no
[09:23] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that is a bit annoying
[09:23] <Kartagis> ikonia: sudo swapon /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[09:23] <Kartagis> swapon: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[09:23] <ikonia> so it's auto-detecting nv and failing
[09:23] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, so it's not marked as swap
[09:23] <rjknight1> hello, may I ask how to have a file sharing web page based?
[09:24] <ikonia> Kartagis: so format it for swap
[09:27] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: give me a few minutes please.
[09:28] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: np, I will go for cigarette
[09:29] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, let me know when you are back, I have a fix to get us moving then fix it properly
[09:31] <Kartagis> :S
[09:31] <Kartagis> sudo mkswap /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[09:31] <Kartagis> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1: Device or resource busy
[09:31] <ikonia> Kartagis: it already swapped on ?
[09:32] <Kartagis> ikonia: idk
[09:32] <ikonia> Kartagis: ....check
[09:32] <Kartagis> ikonia: how?
[09:32] <ikonia> Kartagis: swapon -s
[09:33] <Kartagis> swapon -s
[09:33] <Kartagis> Filename                Type        Size    Used    Priority
[09:33] <Kartagis> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1                  partition    3125244    0    -1
[09:33] <ikonia> ughhh crupt
[09:33] <ikonia> crypt
[09:33] <ikonia> why hav eyou envypted swap ??
[09:33] <ikonia> is the encrypted swap linked to the logical volume ?
[09:33] <Kartagis> I don't remember checking such a box
[09:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: did you encypt anything ?
[09:34] <Kartagis> nope
[09:34] <Kartagis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Ağu 20 12:00 /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 -> ../dm-2
[09:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: what is dm-2 ?
[09:34] <ikonia> as that's just a symlink
[09:34] <Kartagis> no idea
[09:35] <ikonia> Kartagis: so "I don't know" is the answer to "is it anything to do with lvm" as you don't know
[09:35] <ikonia> Kartagis: don't say "no" if you don't know, say "I don't know"
[09:35] <ikonia> Kartagis: did you select any encyption at install time for anything
[09:35] <Kartagis> okay
[09:36] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: re
[09:36] <Kartagis> I didn't specifically encrypt anything by command, and if I have done it during installation, I don't absolutely remember
[09:37] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, take a look at this file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[09:38] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: what I want you to do is put the "driver" line = vesa in your xorg.conf in the Device section for your video card
[09:38] <ikonia> Kartagis: can you pastebin your fstab and cryptab please.
[09:38] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: understand what I'm asking ?
[09:38] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: just that one section
[09:39] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: ok, i have to the whole section in it, right?
[09:39] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: well, not quite, do you have a section for your video card in your Xorg.conf ?
[09:39] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: no
[09:39] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so take the lot then
[09:40] <ikonia> (just the videocard section - not the whole file)
[09:40] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: so first 4 lines
[09:40] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: ok
[09:40] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: then reboot - it's performance will suck - but you should get a desktop and we can move forward from there
[09:42] <Kartagis> ikonia: http://paste.debian.net/27412/
[09:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok - so you have 2 swap partitions,
[09:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: one for the raw lvm device, the othe for swap
[09:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: I suspect you have encypted swap, which is why the swap header is wrong as it's encypted
[09:43] <ikonia> Kartagis: easy solution is to remove line 12 - and your problems should go away
[09:44] <Kartagis> I'll try thanks
[09:44] <Kartagis> brb, lunch
[09:45] <zaggynl> hi, what does " net.ipv4.conf.all.log_martians" do in /etc/sysctl.conf ?
[09:45] <zaggynl> oh, nvm
[09:45] <zaggynl> ## ignore echo broadcast requests to prevent being part of smurf attacks
[09:46] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: it still boots without a grafical desktop
[09:46] <Monotoko> exit
[09:46] <Monotoko> >.>
[09:46] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: now that is annoying
[09:46] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: can you do the grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log again please
[09:49] <Moscherkobold> ikonia:
[09:49] <Moscherkobold> Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[09:49] <Moscherkobold> open /dev/fb0: no such file or directory)
[09:49] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: again, now that is annoying
[09:49] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: :)
[09:49] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: are you able to pastebin the whole /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[09:49] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: generally yes but i have to write it all
[09:50] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: does this machine have internet access without th egui ?
[09:50] <ikonia> without the gui
[09:50]  * ele64 jump
[09:50] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: generally yes, how can i make sure?
[09:51] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: do "sudo apt-get update" see if it works
[09:51] <jost> I have recently had to reformat my whole harddrive. So I made a backup of my /home, simply putting everything into a tar.gz. Problem is: The critical stuff wasn't included into the archive, and now I'm missing a lot of stuff. It seems all folders that might contain passwords, keys and such stuff were omitted. Why?
[09:51] <jost> And exactly these folders, not all hidden folders or something
[09:51] <Haffe> Hello. Is there a way to install a threadsafe version of sqlite3 in ubuntu?
[09:51] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: yes
[09:52] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: yes ! ok, so "sudo apt-get pastebinit"
[09:52] <gvo> jost what command did you use exactly?
[09:52] <jost> gvo: don't know, but I think I used the XFCE-GUI for that
[09:53] <gvo> jost don't know of anything that would behave that way.
[09:53] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: i´ve added "install": worked
[09:53] <mariachi> hello! just installed 13.04 and steam is super slow. if I make a desktop shortcut to the games and use them, the game crashes after displaying a black screen. Steam runs fine with noveau though (Im using 304 proprietary now, because with noveau some games are not supposed to run). Any ideas? I'm new to Ubuntu (not linux though)
[09:53] <Psilocybinnewser> Hey guys does anyone know what i can use thats like the system indicator plugin but for Lxde to use for my Raspberry Pi, i want to be able to see a bandwidth graph beside the CPU Graph
[09:53] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: music to my ears, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[09:53] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: let me know the yrl
[09:53] <ikonia> url
[09:55] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: cool feature :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6005847/
[09:55] <jost> gvo: its really weird, almost everything is there, but e.g. .ssh, .filezilla and .mozilla are missing...
[09:55] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ahhh !!!
[09:55] <gvo> jost only dot files?
[09:55] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: silly mistake, easy to fix
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: Which desktop are you using? Gnome? XFCE?
[09:56] <mariachi> unity?
[09:56] <jost> gvo: I think so, I've not come across a missing non-dot file. But other dot-files/directories are there
[09:56] <mariachi> fresh 13.04 installation
[09:56] <gvo> jost by default the file manager doesn't list dot files so if you did a backup of only the visible files in the FM you missed the . files.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: so Gnome (Unity is a shell)
[09:56] <mariachi> ;)
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: install xfce4, log off and try the XFCE session which is selectable from the login screen
[09:56] <gvo> jost are you sure the dot files you see weren't put there during the reload of the system?
[09:56] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: make your xorg.conf look like this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6005856/
[09:57] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: the first line was your video card line, so you created a conflict
[09:57] <jost> gvo: no, I'm looking directly in the archive
[09:57] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: upsi :)
[09:57] <mariachi> ActionParsnip, will do
[09:57] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: not at all, it's not easy to see if you're not a regular user
[09:57] <gvo> jost So tar ztf <file>.tar.gz lists some but not all dot files?
[09:57] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: just explaining so you understand the issue
[09:58] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: the "nologo" option is a left over from your old video setup, so that's your video card line, so lets strip the nologo option, and add the driver vesa line
[09:58] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: get it ?
[09:58] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: reboot running
[09:58] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, lets see if this is better
[10:00] <jost> gvo: yes, exactly...
[10:00] <jost> and it seems that all missing folders are the ones that might contain sensitive data
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: its small and is a great test :)
[10:01] <gvo> jost that plain wierd.  THere's nothing that I know of that would cause that.
[10:01] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: still not working, i will have a look if I wrote a mistake
[10:01] <gvo> jost I assume you were running as the user who owns the files when you did the backup
[10:02] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets do the error check again too please
[10:03] <jost> gvo: that could be the reason... I don't remember, but It could be that I ran it via LiveCD
[10:03] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: Screen(s) found, but none have a useable configuration
[10:03] <jost> and these folders were not allowed for others to be read or something
[10:03] <jost> which would make sense
[10:04] <gvo> jost OK so it wouldn't be able to see directories that were mode 700 for instance.
[10:04] <gvo> jost and wouldn't back them up.
[10:04] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so that's a little better
[10:05] <jost> gvo: Ok, so no hope to get the data back :(
[10:05] <jost> Thanks for the help
[10:05] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets take a different approach
[10:05] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | pastebinit
[10:05] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets try to go straight to the fix
[10:05] <gvo> jost not unless you have another backup .  You weren't doing regular backups, I guess.
[10:05] <ikonia> rather than mess around with a bridge to the fix
[10:06] <jost> gvo: yeah, you guessed right :(
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> gvo: seems nobody does, especially of "important" data....
[10:06] <gvo> ActionParsnip: Until it's too late.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> gvo: they love learning the hard way
[10:07] <gvo> ActionParsnip: I can't fault anyone.  I've been guilty of it.
[10:07] <aran_> salam
[10:07] <aran_> gunrm
[10:07] <aran_> tay out it
[10:08] <DJones> aran_: This is the Ubuntu support channel, if you have a support question, you are welcome to ask it
[10:08] <aran_> hi
[10:09] <aran_> this is test
[10:09] <ikonia> aran_: it' passsed
[10:09] <aran_> i have just installed xchat
[10:09] <aran_> how to use it as irc of website?
[10:09] <ikonia> aran_: irc is a chat type system - nothing to do with websites
[10:09] <ikonia> aran_: xchat is a client to use IRC for chatting
[10:10] <ikonia> aran_: (as you are doing here)
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: qwebirc ;)
[10:10] <aran_> thanks
[10:11] <rahul_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18332383/mongodb-equivalent-for-traditional-update-set-where
[10:13] <psy^> lol, Gparted on tail end of a 15 hour job and update manager wants to install a new kernel >.>
[10:16] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6005893/
[10:17] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: wow, lot there
[10:17] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, lets get a new xorg config together
[10:18] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: no sud
[10:18] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: not sure if this will work without a gui, but lets try
[10:18] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[10:19] <linuxearth> hi everyone
[10:20] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: a lot of warnings and "new X configuration file written to...."
[10:20] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so now lets cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[10:20] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets see what it's updated
[10:20] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: (or did it write to a different file)
[10:21] <Moscherkobold> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6005911/
[10:21] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that looks better, reboot and lets try that
[10:21] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: (perhaps should have gone this way first time)
[10:22] <mariachi> ActionParsnip, steam with xfce4 works.. that means its a unity problem and I have to use xfce??
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: more like Compiz stinking the place up. I see a lot of steam + compiz issues. I simply advise XFCE
[10:28] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: give me some good news please /
[10:31]  * monkeyjuice sits on edge of seat waiting for the news...
[10:34] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: rebooted without gui
[10:35] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: oh come on ! what's going on here,
[10:35] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets do another error check please.
[10:36] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module...
[10:36] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so "lsmod | grep -i nvidia" anyhting loaded
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Moscherkobold: after you are logged in, run:   killall -u $USER    then log back in
[10:38] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: why kill all his processes ?
[10:38] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: lsmod shows:
[10:38] <Moscherkobold> nvidia   9425278 0
[10:38] <Moscherkobold> thats all
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: kills X too, might have loaded the driver etc. I've seen it help
[10:38] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so the nvidia module is loaded
[10:38] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: X isn't running.....
[10:38] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: that's his issue
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ahhh i see
[10:39] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: ok, so the kernel module is loaded, which is good,
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Moscherkobold: sudo service lightdm restart
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> maybe
[10:39] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: just out of interest can you show me the output of uname -a
[10:39] <ikonia> lets see what kernel you're running,
[10:40] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: something in this update has really screwed you and I'm quite surprised
[10:40] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: sudo service lightdm restart is in progress
[10:40] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: that's good, but that won't fix the root issue,
[10:41] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: lets wait until that finishes
[10:41] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: i saw same kernel, kernel headers things in the update...
[10:41] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: we'll deal with that once your current tests are finished
[10:41] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: ok, how long is this command usually working?
[10:42] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: should be very quick
[10:43] <ikonia> Moscherkobold: 10 - 15 seconds
[10:43] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: it says checking battery state OK
[10:43] <Moscherkobold> and now i have a blinking cursor
[10:43] <dn123_> can someone explain to me the three numbers in a preseed file:
[10:43] <dn123_> d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string                         \
[10:43] <dn123_>       boot-root ::                                            \
[10:43] <dn123_>               40 50 100 ext3                                  \
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Moscherkobold: want to try my xorg.conf ?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Moscherkobold: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old; sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Moscherkobold: may help
[10:45] <DJones> ActionParsnip: I suspect you're just going to confuse things at the moment, ikonia has been working through things for some time
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> DJones: ok, well, its a serving suggestion :). I'll bow out
[10:46] <Moscherkobold> ActionParsnip: thx but DJones is right, I´m not an advanced user as well
[10:46] <Moscherkobold> same for my english :)
[10:51] <dn123_> Anyone can explain to me what the three numbers mean "1000 5000 4000 raid" They are from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt - I don't get what the values mean.
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:52] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: seems that the system stucks, should I do a hard power off ?
[10:52] <poona> Anyone has any idea on what package to install for the python-config command in ubuntu 13.  I have installed python-configshell, python-configglue, python-configobj
[10:56] <crazyhorse> best torrent client for ubuntu is??
[10:56] <justinfront> Does flash with stage3d runs on linux currently?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: try in Chrome using PepperFlash, may work
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: there is no single best torrent client for any OS
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: if there was, the others would cease to be as nobody would use the other clients
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: think about it
[10:58] <crazyhorse> ActionParsnip: usually for most software there is
[10:58] <crazyhorse> in every category
[10:58] <justinfront> I wanted to know because my leopard does not support stage3d, and I wanted to work on some webGL JS but the original code runs Stage3d so I need to do tests with that.
[10:58] <Monotoko> I have decided that I quite like irssi
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: no, there isnt. That's why there are options in all software situations
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: there is no single best. There may be a best for a certain set if users needing features from one which is not in the others but that doesnt mean it is the best for all
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: why not try a few and evaluate, then make your choice for which you think is best
[10:59] <justinfront> So I can't just try it without installing vbox ubuntu or maybe a linux with very small foot print ( not much space ), I thought while I guess you guys hate flash that you might still know if I can use stage3d on it.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: Ubuntu comes with Transmission by default, a good starting point
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: try Ubuntu in LiveCD or LiveUSB (if you have spare) and test ;)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: it is free :D
[11:01] <lusio> the walking dead
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: I dont hate flash, its lots of fun
[11:02] <justinfront> I only have about 5G on my leopard and would need some overhead left would ubuntu need more space?
[11:03] <alveraan> Hi. I have a rather stupid question. If ones creates a new user account using useradd as root, but does not set a password for the user, is the new account then secured against any login attempt (e.g. via ssh, the console,...)? Or is it possible to log in as that user without giving a password?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: run Ubuntu from CD, it will boot to RAM and give you the OS without changing the installed system
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> alveraan: I believe it is locked out until you set password
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> alveraan: only root (and users with sudo access) can make users. Users cannot make users, so all accounts will be made (efectively) by root
[11:04] <justinfront> I don't have working CD drive, I have another machine but really prefer the screen,keyboard and mouse pad of my old leopard.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: got a USB storage you can use, or SD card (assuming you can boot SD)
[11:05] <alveraan> ActionParsnip, ok thanks, that's what I suspected. And as I'm reading the passwd man page, the -d switch actually deleted a password that was set before.
[11:06] <justinfront> yer I might try that I just wanted to find out what status of stage3d was before I went through all that pain.
[11:06] <alveraan> *deletes
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> justinfront: making a USB stick and booting to it isnt terribly painful at all...
[11:07] <Monotoko> Where would I put the second bit here? I've tried putting it after the left join but then I just get an empty set: http://pastie.org/8253082
[11:08] <Monotoko> ... oops
[11:08] <Monotoko> wrong channel sorry
[11:09] <Ore4444> plop
[11:09] <Ore4444> :)
[11:16] <somsip> Monotoko: syntax is SELECT FROM table INNER JOIN table2 ON ... INNER JOIN table3 ON... WHERE {all conditions}
[11:17] <Monotoko> somsip: Ahhh thank you!
[11:20] <charil> he
[11:20] <charil> heee
[11:20] <charil> des
[11:21] <Monotoko> somsip: still got an empty set with the innter joins >.>
[11:23] <lamby> Hellow everybody i need help to install tor on ubuntu 13.04 64bit can somebody help me plx ?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> !tor
[11:25] <lamby> ill try thx
[11:25] <azerus> Guys, I think I found a bug in the require_membership_of option in the pam_winbind library
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> people still using tor, funny
[11:33] <larsjaa> ActionParsnip: why is that funny?
[11:33] <lamby> ubottu thx man
[11:34] <Johnny_Linux> it was compromised a week ago
[11:34] <daftykins> it was never safe ¬_¬
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> larsjaa: the reasons people give why they use tor is usually are usually not what tor does
[11:35] <azerus> where can I report a bug for samba/winbind?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> azerus: run:  ubuntu-bug samba     and it will start the process
[11:38] <Grraff> Hello!
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> hi Grraff
[11:38] <Grraff> How are you?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: not bad, do you have a support question?
[11:39] <bibi23> when I run a command prefixed with nohup, it is pending, I don't see the default teminal line where I can run other commands, isn't it the point of nohup to run it in background?
[11:39] <Grraff> Yes, I have a problem when starting Ubuntu 12.04
[11:39] <larsjaa> Johnny_Linux: Users was targeted with malware. The Tor network is still intact
[11:40] <Johnny_Linux> they should built their own browser
[11:40] <squaregoldfish> bibl23: Did you put & at the end of the command? That will run the command in the background. nohup will stop the program being killed when the terminal is closed.
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> bibi23  use & to run it in the background
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Johnny_Linux: there is a tor browser
[11:40] <Grraff> I think It's a problem with X server
[11:40] <Johnny_Linux> its ff
[11:41] <Grraff> or nvidia driver
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: do you get the login screen ok?
[11:42] <Grraff> no, it's a command line needed
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: did you get an issue after installing the nvidia driver?
[11:44] <bibi23> MonkeyDust: you mean at the end? now I see all its output, isn't there a way to don't deal at all with inputs, outputs, I just want it to run in the background.
[11:45] <Grraff> I had no problem with drivers before.
[11:45] <Grraff> I began this morning
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: did you install the driver this morning?
[11:45] <Grraff> no...
[11:45] <Grraff> I worked perfectly since yesterday
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: if you boot an older kernel, is it ok?
[11:45] <Grraff> no, same problem
[11:46] <BadgerUK> hello, i've just updated ubuntu blindly and now im getting "nvidia api...mistmatch...319.32...304.88". My ability to do stuff from the terminal isn't amazing and im looking for a way to roll back to the drivers i was using before. Ideas?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: try uninstalling the driver, reboot then reinstall it
[11:46] <Grraff> ok, I will try this
[11:46] <Grraff> just a few minutes
[11:48] <Monotoko> ... who on earth named a freenode server moorcock?
[11:48] <Johnny_Linux> elton john
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: http://searchirc.com/motd/freenode/moorcock.freenode.net
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: didnt take me long to find....at all
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: In 2008, The Times newspaper named Moorcock in their list of "The 50 greatest British writers since 1945"
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: try reading a book, you'd know that sort of stuff then :)
[11:53] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: you may have found it quick, but your sense of humour module failed :(
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: replacement is in the post ;)
[11:57] <forsaquarii_> Hi, I recently tried to login to my vncserver on my ubuntu laptop via iSSH from an iPad. My problem is that the vncserver seems running but the connection does not get established, I only can read "connecting"
[11:58] <lamby> guys can somebody help me find 6 digit password numeric dictionary file?
[11:58] <lamby> :D
[11:58] <red> Hello, I need to use Oracle JDK\JRE and have successfully installed both -- however I also need to use "ant", but trying to install ant with apt-get tries to reinstall openjdk (which I have purged from the system)
[11:58] <daftykins> lamby: no
[11:58] <lamby> why no
[11:58] <red> how can I install ant without getting openjdk back?
[11:58] <daftykins> because it's not ubuntu support :(
[11:59] <lamby> yeah right ty
[11:59] <lamby> ;]
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> red: you can install it but still have the Oracle java as the active java
[11:59] <vlkn> hi ubuntu member
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> red: or is space at a premium?
[11:59] <vlkn> im not run djanga
[11:59] <red> ActionParsnip: hmm, I'll check
[12:02] <go8765> hello. is any ppa for - https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page  ???
[12:02] <Grraff> ActionParsnip, I have a screen with a bad resolution
[12:02] <Grraff> I reinstalled nvidia common
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: after removing the driver?
[12:02] <Grraff> yes
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: you will need nvdidia-common as its in a default install
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: how did you install the driver?
[12:03] <Grraff> with a command line [sudo pat-get install nvidia common]
[12:04] <forsaquarii_> anyone familiar with vncserver?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: not:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:04] <daftykins> forsaquarii_: just ask
[12:04] <gry> forsaquarii_: Just ask.
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> forsaquarii_  just ask
[12:05] <Grraff> Ok
[12:06] <Ponch0> Hello, my boot folder is full, and when trying purge or auto remove while in the folder, I get an error saying could not locate package, anyonee know how to clear the folder?
[12:06] <Grraff> do I have to uninstall nvidia-common before installing nvidia-current?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: nvidia-common is in a default install
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: so you will need it
[12:06] <Grraff> ok
[12:06] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[12:06] <azerus> has anyone seen this before?
[12:06] <Grraff> I'll try it now. Thnak you for your help, I'll be back in a moment!
[12:07] <minimec> Ponch0: I would delete some redundant kernels (linux-image) with the synaptic package manager
[12:07] <Ponch0> minimec: Ok, those are the initrd.img files?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> minimec: uname -a    will show the running kernel.   dpkg -l | grep linux-image    will show the installed kernels. You can remove any kernel(s) you want just not the running one or the one without version numbers
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> minimec: uninstall the packages and it will clean up
[12:08] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: I see, I have to uninstall first, and that would also be through synaptic?
[12:08] <minimec> ActionParsnip: Well... Tell that to Ponch0... ;)
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> minimec: d'oh
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0:  just remove the package and the kernels will be removed and Grub will also be cleaned up
[12:09] <minimec> Ponch0: I guess you got your answer... ;)
[12:10] <abc_> dfceaef, yo guy
[12:10] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: thanks, there seems to be three different types of files, I'm aware of which kernel I'm on just not sure which packages I should be going after
[12:10] <Ponch0> minimec: thank you
[12:10] <_name> using chromium youtube gives me some videos in html5 even though im not part of the trial, and html5 videos just say "This video is currently unavailable", ive been googling around but cant find a good solution, could someone help me fix it?
[12:10] <dfceaef> abc_: whats up
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: just remove the packages, you dont need to worry about the files, just like you dont when you install new kernels
[12:11] <abc_> dfceaef, 。。。if we type Chinese here ,what Will going on?
[12:12] <dfceaef> abc_: i think we will be kicked out
[12:13] <abc_> dfceaef, ...•﹏•
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> !cn
[12:14] <Ponch0> I can't find any of those packages, I don't know how to remove them
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[12:15] <abc_> ActionParsnip, thankx ^_^||
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'} | grep -v ^rc
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: shows the installed kernels, remove the metapackage and the running kernel, then run:   sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-someversionnumbershere
[12:16] <gry> hrm, strange word of advice. 'remove the ... running kernel'
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: do not remove the running kernel or its extra configs or whatever it's called
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: lets make this super easy
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'} | grep -v ^rc; uname -a; lsb_release -a
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: us a pastebin to hold the output
[12:18] <Grraff> actionparsnip
[12:18] <prasad> sudo not working it gives : sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be only be writable by owner
[12:18] <prasad> sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[12:19] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/L8ynL3VQ
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> prasad: then chmod is as necessary
[12:19] <Grraff> Actionparsnip : thank you very much. I reinstalled nvidia-current, as your adviced; It works now.
[12:19] <forsaquarii_> in my vncserver log file, i find: Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. MIght this be the reason why I cannot connect?
[12:20] <prasad> yes , i gave chmod also -> chmod -v 644 sudo/
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: http://pastie.org/8253290
[12:21] <prasad> it gives : chmod: changing permissions of `sudo/': Operation not permitted
[12:21] <prasad> failed to change mode of `sudo/' from 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) to 0644 (rw-r--r--)
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: see how I removed the 'linux-image-generic' from the list as well as 'linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic' and 'linux-image-extra-3.8.0-29-generic' as they are the runnig kernel
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: cool
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> prasad: why have you been mesing with the sudoers file, especially in such an insecure way
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> prasad: do you know what 777 does?
[12:22] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: I do see, and I do love you
[12:22] <Ponch0> thanks!
[12:22] <prasad> yes , it gives all permission
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: simple stuff bro
[12:22] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> prasad: yes, to ANYONE. Me you, guest, unauthenticated users, anyone ever
[12:22] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: true, can't be harder then that
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> prasad: great security, yeah?
[12:23] <usr13> ActionParsnip: dpkg -l |grep linux-image |awk {'print $2'} |grep -v ^rc; uname -r  #Little more concise
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> usr13: aye but its been a long day, hence the pastebin. I could've grep -v'd stuff but i wussed out
[12:24] <usr13> ActionParsnip: dpkg -l |grep linux-image |awk {'print $2'} |grep -v ^rc; uname -r |pastebinit
[12:24] <forsaquarii_> in my vncserver log file, i find: Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. MIght this be the reason why I cannot connect?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> prasad: you will now need to boot back to root recovery console and chown the file to 0644 like it is supposed to be, then leave it the hell alone
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> prasad: if you want to edit sudoers use:  sudo visudo
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> prasad: that is how you edit it and you wont get issues
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> prasad: throwing 777 around in Linux will break your OS (as you can see)
[12:25] <crazyhorse> any suggestions on which ftp client to install on ubuntu? i'd prefer something that's very secure?
[12:25] <crazyhorse> in terms of sandboxing access etc
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: ftp is not secure in any way
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: credentials and data are all sent in plaintext
[12:25] <usr13> crazyhorse: How about ssh?
[12:25] <crazyhorse> yeah i don't care about that, i said in terms of sandboxing
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: you could chroot to an ubuntu ISO and ftp there but it doesnt give any security
[12:26] <Pici> crazyhorse: I believe  that vsftp has some sort of chroot options.
[12:27] <crazyhorse> Pici: ahh good
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> i wish people would let ftp die
[12:27] <prasad> thank  you , i will try
[12:27] <crazyhorse> somebody must have written some ftp software that actually works
[12:27] <usr13> Pici: So does proftpd
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse  gftp
[12:28] <gvo> crazyhorse: ftp works, it's just very insecure
[12:28] <crazyhorse> i don't care about the security for the client
[12:28] <crazyhorse> i only care about the security on the server side
[12:28] <gvo> proftpd will give you that
[12:28] <crazyhorse> cool
[12:28] <gvo> Configured right.
[12:29] <crazyhorse> MonkeyDust: i'll check that out too
[12:29] <crazyhorse> gvo: haha yeah
[12:29] <daftykins> also, SSL'd FTP exists anyway
[12:29] <Pici> daftykins: its evil.
[12:29] <crazyhorse> daftykins: needs to be vanilla
[12:29] <daftykins> doesn't mean it doesn't work :D
[12:29] <crazyhorse> daftykins: otherwise ssh / rsync does the trick
[12:30] <daftykins> fair enough
[12:30] <daftykins> just hate to see people go 'rah rah plaintext' when it's not the only way
[12:31] <crazyhorse> yeah these are for devices connecting over private networks for firmware updates
[12:31] <Johnny_Linux> ftp is nsa approved
[12:31] <crazyhorse> I didn't design the devices.. i wouldn't have chosen ftp as the communications mechanism
[12:31] <usr13> crazyhorse: Sometimes you don't need a lot of security.
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> after communism, nsa is the 'new paranoia'
[12:32] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[12:32] <thepeopleschamp> wasnt there someone interested in a macbook earlier here?
[12:32] <Johnny_Linux> tell that to lavabit
[12:32] <crazyhorse> usr13: for industrial supervision and control you'd think it would be neccessary
[12:33] <usr13> crazyhorse: I said "sometimes"
[12:34] <usr13> crazyhorse: Network security is part of the equation
[12:34] <usr13> larger part
[12:43] <usr13> crazyhorse: You can also have your server accept ftp connections from certain clients.
[12:44] <crazyhorse> usr13: yeah, doesn't work
[12:44] <crazyhorse> because client's ips' are dynamic
[12:44] <crazyhorse> and the telco can't even give me ip address ranges.. because i quote "it changes every week"
[12:45] <moses> whats the command to look up how to copy a dir?
[12:46] <Pici> moses: man cp # its cp -r that you are likely looking for
[12:46] <usr13> crazyhorse: http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/467
[12:46] <larsjaa> http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/467
[12:46] <moses> whats the shortcut to the home directory?
[12:47] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[12:47] <moses> something to do with ~
[12:47] <azerus> has anyone seen this before?
[12:47] <azerus> moses: cd ~
[12:48] <larsjaa> usr13: you can also use port knocking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_knocking
[12:49] <moses> whats the man page to rename a file?
[12:49] <butch128> I'm worried my server is compromised - I have a folder "/var/tmp" that has a program k, ka, and a file called k.c
[12:49] <k1l_> moses: use rm
[12:49] <k1l_> moses: nooo, wait
[12:50] <k1l_> moses: sorry meant mv  (not rm)
[12:50] <OerHeks> moses a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:51] <caboose885> butch128: check the access logs to your server. That will let you know whats been going on
[12:51] <caboose885> butch128: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[12:53] <moses> ty k1l_
[12:53] <moses> ty OerHeks that is quite comprehensive
[12:53] <OerHeks> moses have fun
[12:53] <memand> Can I use gparted to make a disk (/dev/sda) into two disks (/dev/sda & /dev/sdb)?
[12:54] <k1l_> memand: you cant do that
[12:55] <ChogyDan> so, if my webcam works in 32bit, but not in 64bit.  Should I file a bug?  or should I just chock it up to the mysteries of whatever
[12:56] <OerHeks> memand you can make sda1 and sda2
[12:56] <memand> k1l_: The reason I'm asking is that I want to try making LFS but I'd like to make it on my local hard drive, but maybe I could just resize the patitions I all ready have and make some more partitions for LFS to live in?
[12:57] <k1l_> memand: yes, you could create more partitions (be aware of th 4 primary limit)
[12:57] <wzt2617> memand: maybe use a virtual machine instead?
[12:57] <crazyhorse> Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. << i get this every day from ssh-add
[12:58] <crazyhorse> any ideas?
[12:58] <memand> wzt2617: I have been thinking about that but if I like the LFS experience I'd like to be able to let it take over the whole system
[12:58] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: ssh-agent is not running or the environment vars pointing to it are unset/wrongly set
[12:59] <crazyhorse> wzt2617: weird
[12:59] <crazyhorse> hmm
[12:59] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: check content of SSH_AUTH_SOCK and SSH_AGENT_PID
[12:59] <crazyhorse> both blank
[13:00] <crazyhorse> 1000      4332  0.0  0.0  14652   784 ?        Ss   Aug19   0:00 ssh-agent << but ssh agent is definitly running
[13:00] <memand> k1l_: How would you recommend doing (my current system has 2 primary partitions and I'd like to let the LFS system have a partition for /boot swap / & /home in that order)?
[13:01] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: even if the agent is running, you have to be in the session in which is was started. otherwise you have to set those vars manually.
[13:01] <crazyhorse> ohhh
[13:01] <crazyhorse> how can i get it to start up automatically?
[13:01] <k1l_> memand: just put up a extended one and putt the stuff in there. for recommendations for LFS see he LFS docu
[13:01] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: so check the env of a process in that session
[13:02] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: ssh-agent should start automatically in desktop sessions
[13:02] <memand> k1l_: k, thanks :)
[13:02] <crazyhorse> hmm, well so probably not working then.. anyway how do i fix it?
[13:02] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: that depends heavily on the desktop you are using
[13:04] <crazyhorse> wzt2617: default install
[13:04] <crazyhorse> unitity
[13:04] <crazyhorse> unity
[13:05] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: i don't use unity. not even ubuntu anymore. but ssh-agent should start as part of the session (should be the parent process of the window manager or something)
[13:06] <crazyhorse> wzt2617: yeah it's quite annoying how many problems you have out the box with ubuntu
[13:06] <ihre> Do I need the mediabuntu PPA for proper VLC-nox transcoding support on Ubuntu x64 12.04?
[13:07] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: check the output of "ps xf" and locate ssh-agent in the process hierarchy
[13:07] <Guest28594> Hello guys, I've got this error msg "Reading package lists... Error!
[13:07] <Guest28594> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:07] <Guest28594> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:07] <Guest28594> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." after apt-get update or ...
[13:08] <guest8998> Hi there ... is there a way to find files in terminal, between a date range?
[13:08] <ihre> guest8998: "find . -type d -mtime +1 -print -quit" for files older than 24h
[13:08] <ihre> directories older than 24h*
[13:09] <guest8998> ihre, is it possible to set a range date, like between Ago 01 and Ago 31?
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: Hello guys, I've got this error msg "Reading package lists... Error!
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." after apt-get update or ...
[13:09] <ChogyDan> !pastebin | Eh123
[13:10] <Eh123> !pastebin Guest28594: Hello guys, I've got this error msg "Reading package lists... Error!
[13:10] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:10] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:10] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." after apt-get update or ...
[13:10] <ihre> guest8998: yes, find . -name -mtime +31 -mtime -62 for files older than 31 days, but less than 62 days
[13:10] <k1l_> !patience | Eh123
[13:11] <ahm> hi im trying to do the dual boot thing i have windows 8 i downloadeded ubuntu but my laptop is under uefi mode on BIOS can we run ubuntu on UEFI mode because i have to keep switching BIOS t Legacy any way around it
[13:11] <guest8998> ihre, thanks for the info ... and just to make sure, is it possible to set a date on the command instead of "x days" ? this command will be used several times, so it will be a little hard do do the math all the time to count the days
[13:12] <ihre> guest8998: im not sure to be honest
[13:12] <Eh123> any suggestion?
[13:12] <guest8998> ihre, that's ok, I'll try to use the way you said, thanks :)
[13:13] <ahm>  hi im trying to do the dual boot thing i have windows 8 i downloadeded ubuntu but my laptop is under uefi mode on BIOS can we run ubuntu on UEFI mode because i have to keep switching BIOS t Legacy any way around it
[13:13] <k1l_> !patience | ahm
[13:13] <jonasty123dm> ahm, the Ubuntu LTS (12.04) and the latest Ubuntu (13.04) is compatible with Secure Boot, you have to boot the CD /USB into UEFI mode
[13:13] <Eh123> anybody?!!
[13:13] <jonasty123dm> *are
[13:14] <ahm> ok cool thanks
[13:14] <usr13> Eh123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[13:14] <jonasty123dm> Eh123, have you tried running sudo apt-get update first?
[13:15] <ahm> i booted from CD last time 13.4 i had to switch to legacy
[13:16] <ahm> switching to uefi runs windows switching to legacy runs uefi
[13:16] <Eh123> usr13: i tried that before! nothing happened
[13:16] <ahm> ubunty sorry
[13:16] <Aliekzhi> problem there with graphic drivers : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1377004570.jpg
[13:16] <Aliekzhi> the 2 first options doesn't do anything
[13:16] <Aliekzhi> any idea ?
[13:16] <Eh123> jonasty123dm: nope! i tried anything via apt-get and get that error
[13:17] <Eh123> jonasty123dm: apt-get install and remove doesnt work
[13:17] <jonasty123dm> Eh123, usr13, just posted this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err  This might solve your problem
[13:18] <butch128> Is there a way to determine if this is a malicious process?
[13:18] <butch128> www-data  5650  0.0  0.0  17856  1444 ?        S    Aug14   0:00 bash
[13:18] <Eh123> jonasty123dm: i tried this way, and doesnt work for me
[13:18] <usr13> Eh123: sudo apt-get clean  |pastebinit #Send us resulting url.
[13:19] <Eh123> usr13: nothing happened
[13:19] <Eh123> usr13: no result
[13:19] <ChogyDan> rrrrrrr, so there is no way to get help for webcams?  Is it better to just spend the extra money and get a full fledged video recorder?
[13:19] <usr13> Eh123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:20] <usr13> Eh123: sudo apt-get update  |pastebinit #Send us resulting url.
[13:20] <revolver14> Hello everyone, new here. I just install a ubuntu desktop 12.04.2 amd64, my video adapter is amd radeon hd 6450 and its first run make the screen display randomly, I can't even get into the setting interface! How can I fix it?
[13:20] <ChogyDan> Eh123: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[13:20] <Eh123> usr13: oops. i have kubuntu 11.04
[13:20] <mjayk> revolver14: how do you mean display randomly ?
[13:21] <usr13> Eh123: That explains that
[13:21] <Eh123> usr13: i forget to say. sorry
[13:21] <Aliekzhi> problem there with graphic drivers : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1377004570.jpg
[13:21] <Aliekzhi> any idea ?
[13:21] <Eh123> ok
[13:21] <Aliekzhi> the 2 first options doesn't do anything
[13:21] <Eh123> usr13: lemme see and try
[13:22] <jonasty123dm> Aliekzhi, are you using the open source drivers or the proprietary drivers ?
[13:22] <usr13> Eh123: EOL was October 28, 2012
[13:22] <Aliekzhi> jonasty123dm, proprietary
[13:22] <Aliekzhi> jonasty123dm, nvidia
[13:23] <revolver14> I mean it didn't go black but its color was random. And I can't get into the operating interface.
[13:23] <ismdeep> Hi
[13:23] <k1l_> Eh123: 11.04 is way out of support
[13:23] <k1l_> !eol | Eh123
[13:23] <mjayk> revolver14: can you get into a terminal ctrl+alt+t
[13:24] <eden_> e
[13:24] <usr13> Eh123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades is for you
[13:24] <k1l_> Eh123: so you are glad you only have that problems so far. read the instructions to get a supported release (might better go with a new install)
[13:24] <eden_> better gpu means for the Desktop environment to move more fluently?
[13:24] <ChogyDan> did Eh123 try sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf  ?
[13:24] <usr13> Eh123: Do you have /home/ on separate partition?
[13:25] <revolver14> Even I can but I can't see a character.
[13:25] <k1l_> ChogyDan: 11.04 is not supported. maybe there is no packages in the repos anymore
[13:25] <usr13> Eh123: If so, get 12.04 and instll leaving /home/ as is.
[13:25] <jonasty123dm> AlanBell, did you have the same issue when you used the open source (nouveau) drivers?
[13:25] <usr13> *install*
[13:25] <mjayk> revolver14: not even when you type ?
[13:25] <jonasty123dm> AlanBell, sorry I got the wrong person :p
[13:26] <usr13> Eh123: Or, you can just back-up /home/ and restore files afterward.
[13:26] <jonasty123dm> Aliekzhi, , did you have the same issue when you used the open source (nouveau) drivers?
[13:27] <revolver14> I'm just a beginner and I download this file and install: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso, I don't know any solution except try another type.
[13:28] <mjayk> revolver14: what do you see at the moment there is not enough information to help right now
[13:29] <revolver14> I get into the live ubuntu interface with nomodeset opinion normally.
[13:29] <eden_> better gpu means for the Desktop environment to move more fluently?
[13:30] <mjayk> revolver14: nomodeset tells the kernel not to load video drivers
[13:30] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[13:30] <azerus> has anyone seen this before?
[13:31] <revolver14> It seems that my video adapter needs additional opinion or driver.
[13:31] <Hakameda> Would there be a specfic channel for getting some help with a script for Ubuntu?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> azerus  AD is active directory? windows?
[13:31] <azerus> yes
[13:31] <minimec> eden_: normally yes, but the rest of the hardware has also some importance, specially the amount of ram, or the speed of the harddrives.
[13:31] <mjayk> revolver14: it shouldnt do, it should load just fine with the preinstalled open drivers
[13:31] <azerus> winbind/samba is working fine through AD
[13:32] <mjayk> revolver14: but you may need to switch to prop drivers after the install
[13:32] <azerus> the require_membership_of option in pam_winbind is being ignore if the user has the 'user must change password at next logon' flag
[13:33] <Hakameda> Would there be a specfic channel for getting some help with a script for Ubuntu?
[13:33] <revolver14> By the way, what's the alternate install CD, can it fix the problem?
[13:34] <mjayk> revolver14: you need to fine the problem first
[13:34] <magdur> suggest a free vpn service
[13:34] <azerus> vps.me
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> azerus  and is the other side an ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server, if you don't get an answer here
[13:34] <eden_> When my laptop is not plugged in my wireless mouse stops responding for some seconds -respond-working-respond-working the same pattern all the time
[13:35] <azerus> MonkeyDust: its ubuntu desktop
[13:35] <azerus> 13.04
[13:35] <revolver14> Thanks all.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> eden_: is it bluetooth, or does it have its own reciever?
[13:37] <eden_> @ActionParsnip own
[13:37] <magdur> guys suggest a free vpn service
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> eden_: tried a different USB port?
[13:37] <eden_> ActionParsnip, yes
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> eden_: sounds like the usb turns off when not on mains, do you have the latest BIOS?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> eden_: are there bugs reported?
[13:38] <minimec> eden_: Probably the USB port or the mouse have a stand by mode, and the device is going into that mode, when on battery. I would install the tool powertop and check for such a setting. 'Good' would mean saving power, 'Bad' full power. Put it to 'Bad'.
[13:38] <eden_> ActionParsnip, yes i have the latest bios
[13:38] <ChogyDan> Hakameda: just ask, if the script is too generic, you may want to try #bash or something
[13:38] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i have laptop-mode tools isntalled
[13:39] <eden_> ActionParsnip, wut i think problem fixed changed the usb port Hhahaha
[13:39] <eden_> ActionParsnip, Wow howw i never thought of that
[13:39] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i feel dumb
[13:40] <eden_> ActionParsnip, minimec thanks
[13:40] <Eagleman> i got a script i want to run as a different user with no login, however it needs to run in a screen and it needs to be viseble when i use screen -ls as root, any idea how i can do that?
[13:41] <wzt2617> Eagleman: start screen in detached mode
[13:42] <wzt2617> Eagleman: from a init script
[13:43] <awaken_gylan1979> greetings everyone
[13:44] <mads-> awaken_gylan1979, be greeted
[13:44] <Eagleman> wzt2617, it is just like ./scripttorun
[13:44] <Eagleman> no init
[13:44] <awaken_gylan1979> :)
[13:44] <zaggynl> anyone here using an x-fi with pulseaudio?
[13:44] <zaggynl> I'm missing a bunch of sliders
[13:45] <konadr1> hi all, I'm trying to get pam_groupdn to filter out my LDAP group to allow only certain LDAP groups to login to a given system, my system still allows the user to login even though they aren't in the group. Does anyone have experience with pam_groupdn
[13:46] <awaken_gylan1979> i have a problem after installing elementary os luna stable edition, but it fail to start at the 1st boot.. and stop at after "start domain [ok]" do anyone know how to solve the problem?
[13:47] <mads-> awaken_gylan1979, think you joined the wrong channel. This is ubuntu
[13:47] <mjayk> awaken_gylan1979: better to try in the elementary os support
[13:48] <marianne> good morning guys... question on video cards... based on what questions you are asked here, is there one type of video card that seems to be problematic?
[13:48] <awaken_gylan1979> my primary os is ubuntu 13.04 too...
[13:48] <jonasty123dm> marianne, I have had lots of pro
[13:48] <bean> awaken_gylan1979: doesn't matter -- we only support ubuntu here.
[13:48] <jonasty123dm> marianne, I have had lots of problems with AMD/ATI cards
[13:49] <mjayk> marianne: ATI drivers seam to have more problems than Nvidia
[13:49] <awaken_gylan1979> ic...
[13:49] <awaken_gylan1979> then i would like to ask about my ubuntu 13.04 problem...
[13:49] <six86> Hello. I created a fakeRAID, and I can see it if i manually run "mdadm --assemble --scan", but after the reboot the array is gone and i have to run "mdadm --assemble --scan" again. How can i get this done automatically?
[13:49] <bean> does that not make sense, awaken_gylan1979, we don't know anything about elementary.
[13:49] <mjayk> awaken_gylan1979: ask away :D
[13:50] <awaken_gylan1979> i am sick of installing nvidia driver...
[13:50] <tomreyn> six86: mdadm manages software raids, i don't think it manages fakeraids
[13:50] <mjayk> thats a question ?
[13:50] <wzt2617> Eagleman: sudo screen -dmS my su -c /path/to/script otheruser
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> awaken_gylan1979  type     /join #elementary   it's not supported here, you won't find help here
[13:51] <marianne> mjayk: I currently have Nvidia and since I'm doing a build from scratch, just want to make sure I'm not buying myself a completely unknown issue
[13:51] <awaken_gylan1979> it doesn't operate well.. after the clean installation, i street to install bumblebee..the latest version..
[13:51] <wzt2617> Eagleman: this will start a detached screen session owned by root running the script as user "otheruser"
[13:51] <zaggynl> both amd and nvidia will work but nvidia drivers for linux tend to be better
[13:51] <mjayk> marianne: i have 2 ati cards when they work its fine but there seams to be an underlying idea which is probably true that nvidia have alot better linux support driver wise
[13:52] <awaken_gylan1979> :) i am asking about nvidia driver on my ubuntu 13.04...
[13:52] <otend> with nvidia: are we including Optimus?
[13:52] <six86> tomreyn: thats what I found and it works when invoked manually... At least i think i have a fakeraid. It's an intel controller (Thinkstation D30, C600 chipset)
[13:52] <otend> because my Optimus setup is really buggy, especially under Unity, which it can rather quickly crash
[13:53] <mjayk> otend: i dont think Optimus is good on linux atm but i dont see how thats a problem as he is building a desktop?
[13:53] <otend> oh.  sorry, didn't catch everything.
[13:53] <otend> was curious as to whether that was relevant
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> otend: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display   do you see an Intel GPU too
[13:53] <mjayk> otend: there was a question mark because i wasnt sure if optimus was jsut for laptops / power stuff
[13:54] <marianne> mjayk: This will only be my second from the ground up build... my current 'puter was built about 6 years ago.... so I'm just lurking in the room to see what kinds of issues i might run into during an install
[13:54] <otend> there is indeed an Intel GPU.  I've got Bumblebee going, and Intel is the primary.
[13:54] <tomreyn> six86: assuming what you setup is actually a software RAID (setup using mdadm or the ubuntu installer) then it should be automatically assembled at boot, based on information stored in the initrd. the initrd is often updated automatically when you make changes which need to go there, but you can do this manually running "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[13:54] <awaken_gylan1979> i am using nvidia geforce 540M, can anyone please guide me the way to make this work on my ubuntu13.04..
[13:54] <otend> and yeah, it's only for laptops and power saving
[13:55] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: did you go into the software center and load the additional drivers?
[13:55] <mjayk> marianne: ive build a few in the last 5 years or so and i believe you will find it ALOT easier than you did 6 years ago, more and more hardware just works
[13:55] <otend> wait, since this is an M, are you using an Optimus setup, or is it pure Nvidia?
[13:55] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes.. but nothing listed...
[13:55] <Marlnee> what happen to the text printed on screen while i use "screen" command !
[13:56] <six86> tomreyn: already did that. I also reconfigured mdadm. But no luck so far. When I run mdadm reassemble i see my RAID as /dev/md/Data, but its not assembled automatically
[13:56] <bean> Marlnee: what do you mean?
[13:56] <mjayk> marianne: im off goodluck with your build
[13:56] <marianne> mjayk: I've learned more during that time too.... but I can't think of any better way to spend a rainy afternoon...later
[13:56] <tomreyn> six86: do your logs say why it is not assembled automatically?
[13:56] <otend> awaken_gylan1979, is this an Optimus system (both Intel GPU and Nvidia GPU)?  if so, things may get somewhat weird.
[13:56] <magdur> guys how to change my dns adress ?
[13:57] <tithan> MY COMPUTEER WINDOW 8  PROTECT OTER OS EVEN COMPLETED STILL WILL LOAD WINDOW 8 LOADER
[13:57] <otend> what
[13:57] <six86> tomreyn: where can i find mdadm logs?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !caps | tithan
[13:57] <otend> oh
[13:57] <otend> oh boy, UEFI!
[13:57] <Marlnee> bean all text printed inside screen command iam not able to scroll up to see it
[13:57] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes.. it is an optimus system....(my laptop model: Dell XPS 15 L502X)
[13:57] <tomreyn> six86: check /var/log/syslog
[13:57] <bean> Marlnee: yeah, you have to go into copy mode to scroll up
[13:57] <otend> have you looked into Bumblebee, awaken_gylan1979?
[13:57] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: Look for additional drivers, not Nvidia
[13:57] <magdur> guys how to change my dns adress ?
[13:58] <otend> that may be pertinent
[13:58] <tithan> UBOTTU THANX
[13:58] <six86> tomreyn: DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md126, component device Wrong-Level
[13:58] <wzt2617> Marlnee: ctrl-a esc   then scroll up
[13:58] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: yes..i installed it street after a clean install of ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[13:58] <bean> magdur: that isn't an ubuntu question unless you're hosting your own DNS server on ubuntu
[13:59] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes, in additional drivers...
[13:59] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: the things I have installed are NVidia binary X.Org driver
[13:59] <otend> hm.  can you give me what error you get when attempting to install drivers?
[13:59] <tomreyn> magdur: if you want to change the nameservers used by your applications when resolving hostnames to ip addresses and you use network manager to manage your wireless or wired network connection then you can edit the connection profile you are currently using and set the DNS servers to use manually
[13:59] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: but it is empty...doesn't list anything..
[13:59] <otend> oh.
[13:59] <otend> that
[13:59] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: 13.04?
[13:59] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: but  in ubuntu 12.10, it does listed out.
 i did it but it didnt work
[14:00] <marianne> I'm running 12.04
[14:00] <otend> it should be recognized by applications if you run them using primusrun
[14:00] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: 12.04 here... I only do LTS versions
[14:00] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes
[14:00] <otend> is that where the concern lies, or are we trying to upgrade existing drivers?
[14:00] <tomreyn> six86: that's over my head, but it sounds like one of the RAID devices may have incorrect metadata. check the detailed information on the various devices which form the RAID and make sure it matches.
[14:00] <otend> since bumblebee, if the site's instructions are followed, installs (old, but working) drivers
[14:01] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: ic...
[14:01] <BluesKaj> magdur, set your dns IP in your router/modem settings page if you use network manager
[14:01] <tithan> HOW I CAN MADE THE CD WHICH CAN USE MORE THAN TWO SOFTWARES BY AUTODEPLOYMENT INSTALLATION BY USING ONE COMPUTER ANY INSTALL TO DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS
[14:01] <otend> awaken_gylan1979, what happens when you run "primusrun glxgears" in the terminal?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> tithan: turn off your capslock
[14:02] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: try this site -- http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[14:02] <Marlnee> wzt2617 : not work !
[14:02] <bean> !caps | tithan
[14:02] <tomreyn> magdur: which server did you try to set, how did you do it, and what was the result (explain how you noticed it "didn't work")
[14:03] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: the graphic appear and running well.
[14:03] <otend> then your nvidia card is working
[14:03] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: ok thanks..
[14:03] <Wodabe> hi, is there a Ubuntu keymap somewhere I can download and print?
[14:03] <otend> what are we trying to do with the card?
[14:04] <_N1X_> hello overyone (how can i swtich from xfce4 to twm) !
[14:04] <tithan> HOW I CAN MADE THE CD WHICH CAN USE MORE THAN TWO SOFTWARES BY AUTODEPLOYMENT INSTALLATION BY USING ONE COMPUTER ANY INSTALL TO DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Wodabe: hold down your Windows key and you will see shortcuts
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> tithan  caps
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !ops | tithan
[14:04] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: but my unity doesn't load =.=' and my google earth also quit itself after some period..
[14:04] <otend> i know your pain, sort of
[14:04] <six86> tomreyn: is this useful to you?
[14:05] <otend> Unity loads for me, but is highly prone to a system-halting crash
[14:05] <six86> tomreyn: thats the output after manually assembling. There are some log lines in syslog too
[14:05] <otend> chalk it up to the inherent instability of non-LTS releases, I guess
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  try installing twm, logout, switch, login
[14:05] <magdur> i cant access www.istasy10.com with  with comodo dns   8.26.56.26 8.20.247.20 but it didnt work. i do from edit connections
[14:05] <otend> having an Optimus setup on Linux is generally a recipe for misery
[14:05] <otend> I can attest to that
[14:05] <magdur> i cant access www.istasy10.com with  with comodo dns   8.26.56.26 8.20.247.20 but it didnt work. i do from edit connections  <tomreyn>
[14:06] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: i did installed twm , and logout but i cant see twm in session list
[14:06] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: i am currently using emerald for windows decoration and cario dock ask the interface in order to open everything... >,<||
[14:06] <otend> i just settled on xubuntu
[14:06] <otend> since compiz and our setups do not play nice
[14:07] <otend> i'm hoping things will be different after Mir
[14:07] <otend> for now, there's not much we can do other than not use Unity.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> otend: no bad thing :)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> otend: could use Unity2D :)
[14:08] <tomreyn> six86: sorry what's useful to me?
[14:08] <otend> Unity2D's been dropped before 13.04, unfortunately
[14:09] <six86> tomreyn: argh forgot the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006528/
[14:09] <awaken_gylan1979> mind to ask which version of ubuntu is more stable for nvidia driver in term of setup and operation??
[14:09] <tithan> unattended installation
[14:09] <awaken_gylan1979> mind to ask which version of ubuntu is more stable , reliable and easy for nvidia driver in term of setup and operation??
[14:10] <otend> well, I had the repeated crashes in 12.04
[14:10] <_N1X_> hello overyone (how can i swtich from xfce4 to twm) !
[14:10] <otend> so moving back to that will not help
[14:10] <otend> I'd advise switching to not Unity
[14:11] <tomreyn> magdur: the first nameserver you provided does seem to resolve the hostname properly. the second one did not, but this may be different for you and me (since i'm in a different network than you).
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> _N1X_: select it from login screen
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  i guess twm is to be used in a terminal login, you can obtain this by using gdm instead of lghtdm
[14:11] <awaken_gylan1979> cario dock is not stable as well, always crash.... .>,<||   how about gnome shell 3.8, please advice...
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> awaken_gylan1979: install it and try, gnome-shell is in the epos
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> *repos
[14:12] <_N1X_> ActionParsnip: it not listed in login screen
[14:12] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: i will try to install gdm
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> awaken_gylan1979  try a few DE's and decide which one you prefer
[14:12] <magdur> thanks <tomreyn>
[14:13] <awaken_gylan1979> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks for suggestion...
[14:13] <awaken_gylan1979> MonkeyDust: thanks for advice too..
[14:13] <ChogyDan> what is twn?
[14:13] <tomreyn> magdur: editing the connection settings / profile is the right way to get started. so you select the connection to edit there, then you click on  "edit", then "ipv4 settings", then set "method" to "automatic (dhcp), addresses only" and specify the dns servers to use, separated by command and space, in the "DNS servers" field. you then need to reconnect using this profile if it was previously active. that should be it.
[14:13] <jonasty123dm> _N1X_, isn't twm X11's window manager? it's the base for ALL other Window managers and desktop environments
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: tiling window manager
[14:13] <bean> tithan: is there a different language that you speak better than english? they might be able to help you more in a language specific channe;
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> ChogyDan  wm means windows manager, the t would refer to the maintainer's name
[14:14] <_N1X_> jonasty123dm: yes it is a window manager , ... but i want to run it
[14:14] <ChogyDan> mk, thanks
[14:14] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust:  installing gdm rightnow !
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  use gdm, logout, select terminal, then type twm&   <-- with the &
[14:15] <doomlord__> is it possible to remap an individual key: i'd like to swap - _  .. invert what shift does there.
[14:16] <tomreyn> six86: so your md device IDs are unusually high. normally those start at 0. 126 and 127 is strange, unless you set this on purpose. i assume it should still work, though.
[14:16] <tomreyn> six86: please also post the contents of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[14:16] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: downloading speed 50KB/s
[14:17] <six86> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006555/
[14:17] <thejollygrimreap> i'
[14:18] <thejollygrimreap> i'm about to upgrade my pc and go back to ubuntu, what brand of graphics card isn't going to give me the kind of trouble these nvidia cards have?
[14:18] <thejollygrimreap> around drivers
[14:18] <Johnny_Linux> actually, nvidia is good
[14:18] <Johnny_Linux> just get a decent card
[14:19] <thejollygrimreap> i've just spent 5 hours trying to install the drivers for a nvidia card i had
[14:19] <Johnny_Linux> did you use nvidia-current ?
[14:20] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: installing ... :D
[14:20] <thejollygrimreap> yep xserver won't start
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  careful: if you don't like twm, i'm not sure if you can easily switch back to lightdm
[14:20] <_N1X_> lol :D MonkeyDust :O
[14:20] <thejollygrimreap> the only way i can get xserver to start is to delete xorg.conf
[14:20] <thejollygrimreap> with the nvidia card in there
[14:21] <Johnny_Linux> sometimes installing anything other than nvidia-current first causes problems, on your next build use it first
[14:21] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: pastebin your Xorg.0.log file
[14:21] <Johnny_Linux> people always make that mistake
[14:22] <thejollygrimreap> where do i find xorg.0.log ?
[14:22] <daftykins> /var/log/
[14:24] <thejollygrimreap> http://pastebin.com/tt888YHX
[14:24] <tomreyn> six86: okay so you seem to have a fakeraid indeed, and one which mdadm understands, http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/matrixstorage_sb.htm
[14:26] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust:  i stoped lightdm , started gdm , i got gnome3 login when i login to switch me xfce4 :D,
[14:26] <tomreyn> six86: based on how i understand your current mdadm configuration file, a single raid device with a single member is configured there only. you will need to correct your mdadm configuration file to have the raids assembled automatically on boot.
[14:26] <[DS]Matej> /
[14:26] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust:  i stoped lightdm , started gdm , i got gnome3 login when i login it switch me xfce4 :D,
[14:27] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: I'm not totally leet in reading those files, but I think I'm seeing an intel video card driver.  No Nvidia driver...
[14:27] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  select terminal login, in gdm
[14:27] <six86> tomreyn: but it works when I assemble it manually?!
[14:27] <thejollygrimreap> ChogDan:anything intel is the builtin one on the motherboard,
[14:28] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: can you pastebin `dkms status`?
[14:28] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: i can't see termianl login  option in gnome3 login page
[14:29] <thejollygrimreap> ChogDan: how do i get that?
[14:29] <daftykins> you type it in a terminal
[14:29] <tomreyn> six86: that's what you said, right? if you assemble it manually edplaining mdadm what it needs to do then this is possible. on the other hand when you posted mdstat earlier the md127 device was actually inactive
[14:29] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: using the ` is a reference to typing something right into the terminal
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  either gdm or lightdm is the login page, not gnome3
[14:30] <thejollygrimreap> nvidia, 71.86.15, 3.2.0-4-686-pae, i686: installed
[14:30] <thejollygrimreap> virtualbox, 4.1.18, 3.2.0-4-686-pae, i686: installed
[14:30] <thejollygrimreap> thats the only output
[14:31] <ahawkins> I'm trying to install build-essential on a fresh amazon AMI. I'm getting the error that it's available but referred to by another package. How should I continue?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !info build-essential
[14:31] <six86> tomreyn: when I just do "mdadm --examine --scan" the array is recognized under /dev/md/Data, and that should be exactly what's in the config?!
[14:31] <tomreyn> six86:i would recommend against using a fakeraid unless you know how it works and how to recover it in case of a failure.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: its in the main repo...
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: have you ran:  sudo apt-get update
[14:31] <john_rambo> I am uploading a file to Ubuntu One ......I can see data transfer going on on my router but the Ubuntu ONe interface kepps saying 0 bytes of 5GB
[14:31] <ahawkins> ActionParsnip: ya
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:32] <six86> tomreyn: Actually I understand how it works, what I do not understand is why it is not assembled at boot time. Actually I have a duakl boot and so need a fakeRAID
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> six86: you can have a dual boot not on raid
[14:33] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: nvidia 71 seems old.  Maybe you are using an old distro, or are grabbing the wrong nvidia drivers?
[14:33] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: im just guessing.  The oldest I see is 96
[14:33] <thejollygrimreap> ChogyDan: it's an old card
[14:33] <six86> ActionParsnip: Just want to use the raid array from wuindows AND linux. The OSs are on a seperate SSD
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> what series is it
[14:34] <tomreyn> six86: with an mdadm raid (i.e. I don't know about fakeraid) the output of "mdadm --examine --scan" while all devices are assembled and active should indeed look similar as that of "grep ^ARRAY /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf"
[14:34] <six86> After all i read this is possible
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> 5.6.7.8
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, alt+f2 additional drivers
[14:34] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: ^ what blueskaj said
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> 173 usually works good for older cards
[14:34] <six86> tomreyn: the output is IDENTICAL to the line in the conf file
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: its a simple terminal command, single line of outpit so no need to pastebin
[14:36] <thejollygrimreap> i can try the 173 one ,  whats an easy way to actually install it though
[14:36] <ahawkins> ActionParsnip: getting it now.
[14:37] <Confused> I have a Dell Poweredge 2950 that I'm putting Ubuntu Server 12.04LTS on. I have a 80Gb HDD at /dev/sda that I have installed the system to. I have three 3TB drives that I am looking to setup a RAID5 Array with, yet fdisk only shows the drives have a capacity of 2.2TB. How can I check the drive controllers firmware version to see if there is an update to me using all 3TB of the drives in order to create my RAID 5 Array
[14:39] <mitch> what is the best way to remember tar options?
[14:39] <mitch> i ALWAYS forget them and I use Ubuntu DAILY at work! :(
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mitch: everybody remembers things differently
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> mitch  using and repeating them
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mitch: if you mean the extraction, then install and use unp
[14:40] <Confused> I have a Dell Poweredge 2950 that I'm putting Ubuntu Server 12.04LTS on. I have a 80Gb HDD at /dev/sda that I have installed the system to. I have three 3TB drives that I am looking to setup a RAID5 Array with, yet fdisk only shows the drives have a capacity of 2.2TB. How can I check the drive controllers firmware version to see if there is an update to me using all 3TB of the drives in order to create my RAID 5 Array
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> mitch  old skool: pen and paper
[14:40] <daftykins> mitch: tattoo the man page on your left hand
[14:40] <mitch> haha MonkeyDust, that sounds awful!
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mitch: unp will look at the file and extract it in the right manner
[14:40] <mitch> daftykins, haha yeah maybe.
[14:40] <mitch> ActionParsnip, really? I've never done that. but that sounds handy
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mitch: very
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> !info unp
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mitch: should be default installed imho
[14:41] <mitch> ActionParsnip, hmmm i'm gonna try taht one now. if it works, that might help me remember it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> mitch: unp filename.tar.gz   unp filename.rar    unp filename.zip    easy enough
[14:42] <Marlnee> what mean that error - xwin.c:21:22: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[14:43] <tomreyn> six86: try this in mdadm.conf (no guarantees, might cause data loss):
[14:43] <tomreyn> ARRAY /dev/md127 metadata=imsm UUID=4ee0217f:2fc8dfa6:2829d3ba:af6595b2
[14:43] <tomreyn> ARRAY /dev/md126 container=4ee0217f:2fc8dfa6:2829d3ba:af6595b2 member=0 UUID=d36c2db1:170b717c:d4a40844:cf14381d
[14:44] <tomreyn> (and remember you'll need to update the initramfs)
[14:46] <dsalfran> hello everybody. I want to know if by rooting a galaxy s3 mini I can make it able to connect properly with ubuntu?
[14:46] <auronandace> dsalfran: define properly
[14:48] <dsalfran> right now is recognized at random times and the connection is intermitent. I would like also to be able to use it as a MTP device
[14:49] <Iridethelongbus> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu by using netboot and now its not excepting my password,which i know is correct as I only have one password i use for most things.  i tried to use passwd to changer it but it said "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[14:49] <Iridethelongbus> passwd: password unchanged" so then i tried doing "mount -rw remount /" but remoun was not an avaible comand. What should i do now?
[14:49] <ericbgsu> anyone recommend a rhythmbox alternative? it keeps tapping out my cpu after a while...or maybe theres a fix?
[14:49] <mbeierl> How do I get rid of the unity side bar and top panel?  I was happily running UbuntuStudio 13.04 and then decided to install AWN.  That somehow dragged in the whole sidebar and top panel thing and totally erased all my settings.  I just want to get rid of the side bar and top panel and get my real estate back.
[14:49] <DJones> ericbgsu: I use clementine as a music player
[14:50] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: theres loads of music players
[14:51] <DJones> dsalfran: Which version of Ubuntu are you using, as far as I remember the drivers for android devices were updated with 13.04, I have a Galaxy S3 which I can connect without any issues on 13.04, 12.10 and early it was a pig to get any connection
[14:51] <ericbgsu> I'll check it out...really liked rhythmbox, not sure why it slowly starts using up all my cores
[14:51] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: is it just to play music or do you need other features
[14:52] <ericbgsu> actually just to stream stations, don't care about mp3 or anything else
[14:52] <dsalfran> I'm using 13.04, but with kernel 3.10
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ericbgsu: grooveshark :)
[14:52] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: i think audacious can do that,
[14:52] <dsalfran> DJones: I'm using 13.04, but with kernel 3.10
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> dsalfran: we cannot support 3rd party kernels here
[14:52] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: but you could use mplayer on the cli, or a cli music player
[14:53] <dsalfran> ActionParsnip: I can go to the stable kernel but the problem with the phone is there still
[14:53] <DJones> dsalfran: All I can suggest is trying it with the default kernels, I haven't had issues with mine (albeit not the S3 mini, just the straight S3)
[14:54] <ericbgsu> I'll try them out...I stream local radio stations
[14:54] <ericbgsu> although grooveshark just got bookmarked, thanks.
[14:54] <doomlord__> anyone here use geany ... does it have a jump-to-next-error hotkey. i see a "next message" binding, which ithought it would be, but it doesn't seem to work
[14:55] <reisio> never used it as an IDE
[14:55] <reisio> try #geany
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dsalfran: when you disconnect the phone, do you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[14:55] <dsalfran> Djones: I have tried, I only wanted to know if there is a chance that rooting the phone I could install something on it to make it work better
[14:56] <DJones> dsalfran: Wouldn't like to say, you might be better asking in ##android (I think thats the general android channel)
[14:56] <dsalfran> ActionParsnip: Yes, I use the safe removal feature
[14:56] <noiro> >.< Gah, KDE's blur effect has this fresh install crawling at its knees. Takes 5 minutes to do a search in the start menu
[14:56] <noiro> And that's just so I can go turn OFF the blur effect
[14:56] <dsalfran> Djones: Ah, thanks. I didn't knew that
[14:56] <e-dard> Hi, is it possible to run two separate instances of byobu for the same user, differentiating by the public used to connect via SSH?
[14:56] <e-dard> we have a typical cloud instance with ubuntu and byobu, and devs are stepping on toes
[14:57] <e-dard> we only have the standard ubuntu user
[14:57] <reisio> e-dard: why the same user?
[14:57] <e-dard> (basically stock EC2 instance)
[14:57] <e-dard> reisio: for deployment and so on it's simpler to have a single user on our servers
[14:57] <reisio> e-dard: why not mount the data remotely and have them use their own systems?
[14:57] <e-dard> It's also the default configuration for EC2 Ubuntu instances
[14:58] <e-dard> reisio: not sure mounting hundreds of GB of system data to go through it locally is such a good idea.
[14:58] <reisio> they're going to edit hundreds of GB?
[14:58] <dajepp> I need networking help - Ubuntu 13.04 on a dell laptop.  Cant connect with wi-fi or ethernet
[14:59] <reisio> how about having them work as one user and deploy as the magic one?
[14:59] <e-dard> reisio: that's not really the point ;)
[14:59] <gbit86> Has anyone here configured an LPD/LPR printer on a Wyse Thinclient to work with a xRDP server?
[14:59] <reisio> e-dard: then why say it...
[14:59] <e-dard> reisio: sure, could do that
[14:59] <Blackwizard_> Hi
[14:59] <Blackwizard_> I have ubuntu 12.04 with nvidia graphic card
[14:59] <reisio> e-dard: so they VNC in?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> gbit86  please rephrase, that phrase is hard to read
[14:59] <e-dard> reisio: ssh
[14:59] <Blackwizard_> Is it supported in ubuntu?
[15:00] <ahawkins> ActionParsnip: I could install it after doing: apt-cache search build-essential
[15:00] <reisio> I thought byobu was X only
[15:00] <gbit86> I just want to know if it is possible for me to connect a printer via LPD to a linux server running xRDP server, I can figure out there rest
[15:00] <e-dard> reisio: I thought the opposite
[15:00] <reisio> mmm, okay
[15:00] <gbit86> so a Wyse thin client would have a local usb printer attached, and I would have xrdp to recognize it, so I can print to it in theory
[15:00] <reisio> e-dard: well you could have separate 'screen' sessions easily
[15:00] <reisio> e-dard: presumably byobu requires screen, so you should have screen
[15:00] <e-dard> reisio: yeah it does
[15:01] <reisio> or tmux
[15:01] <Blackwizard_> any hint for use nvidia graphic card in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:01] <e-dard> reisio: OK, I'll look into those options.
[15:01] <e-dard> Thanks
[15:01] <reisio> e-dard: perhaps their shells are just setup to
[15:01] <reisio> e-dard: automatically reconnect to existing instances upon login
[15:01] <reisio> you'd want to merely disable that and the problem would be solved
[15:01] <gbit86> I am sure if I was using a raspberry pi I could find many ways have making a local printer available to my linux server, but my options are limited to LPD with usb redirection on the Wyse.
[15:01] <reisio> e-dard: poke around in ~/.bash* stuff and the like
[15:02] <e-dard> reisio: bybobu is associated with the user on the server instance. when you ssh in, byobu automatically reconnects to your session
[15:02] <tyteen4a03> hi, trying to gnome 3.8 but got this message: https://gist.github.com/tyteen4a03/76ec7914262e9fcf636d Can anyone tell me what to do next?
[15:02] <reisio> e-dard: right
[15:02] <reisio> e-dard: but that's almost certainly just configured through the shell's prefs
[15:02] <e-dard> so if two people ssh in at the same time they see the same thing, and can both control the shell
[15:02] <gbit86> MonkeyDust: was my explanation any better?
[15:02] <e-dard> reisio: yes it's a setting
[15:02] <reisio> right, that should be in ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile somewhere
[15:02] <reisio> it seems like you simply don't want that to happen
[15:02] <dajepp> .
[15:03] <e-dard> reisio: but if you turn it off, and then ssh in, and then type *byobu* would you not both get reconnected to the same session again?
[15:03] <reisio> e-dard: that I don't know, not being familiar with the application, but
[15:03] <e-dard> reisio: we do want byobu, because it's useful for keeping the session alive etc.
[15:03] <reisio> e-dard: you could obviously alias it to use a param that avoids that
[15:03] <reisio> e-dard: or screen, or tmux
[15:03] <Blackwizard_> @reisio how can I disable it?
[15:03] <reisio> Blackwizard_: disable what?
[15:03] <e-dard> yeah I guess screen / tmux might be more flexible
[15:04] <reisio> e-dard: I'd be surprised if byobu didn't have similar optional overrides
[15:04] <Blackwizard_> my nvidia graphic card
[15:04] <reisio> but again, I don't know byobu
[15:04] <reisio> Blackwizard_: what for?
[15:04] <reisio> I had the same setup (with screen) on a server once, and it also became less helpful and more confusing :p
[15:04] <ihre> byobu is pretty nice, since it has a few nice options hardcoded in it, but I prefer screen anyway
[15:04] <gisyangli> i use the initdb.exe, and run pgadmin3.  set the host to localhost. but the pgadmin get a connecton refused error
[15:04] <Blackwizard_> @reisio I have a problem with my nvidia graphic card in ubuntu 12.04
[15:04] <reisio> Blackwizard_: what problem is that?
[15:05] <CountryfiedLinux> Does Ubuntu really contain spyware?
[15:05] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: after a fashion
[15:05] <Blackwizard_> @reisio I need a graphic driver for it
[15:05] <gisyangli> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:05] <gisyangli>  libwxgtk2.9-0-unofficial : Depends: libjbig0 but it is not installable
[15:05] <gisyangli>                             Depends: liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) but 5.1.1alpha+20110809-3 is to be installed
[15:05] <gisyangli> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I got this error
[15:05] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: it contains software that help companies sell you things
[15:05] <reisio> helps*
[15:05] <ihre> lol, besides the popularity check during the install, I wouldnt say so, CountryfiedLinux
[15:06] <OerHeks> CountryfiedLinux, really?
[15:06] <reisio> Blackwizard_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:06] <tyteen4a03> hi, trying to gnome 3.8 but got this message: https://gist.github.com/tyteen4a03/76ec7914262e9fcf636d Can anyone tell me what to do next?
[15:06] <whoever> OerHeks: really where , gotta link,
[15:07] <Blackwizard_> @reisio I heard my problem is popular one?
[15:08] <sevenearths> my ram has been in constant use for the last two weeks. Is there any way of telling what process is constantly swapping stuff in and out of my ram?
[15:08] <reisio> Blackwizard_: not having a driver?
[15:08] <Blackwizard_> @reisio is there any popular solution for it?
[15:08] <reisio> Blackwizard_: I don't know if I'd say that
[15:08] <reisio> Blackwizard_: yes I gave it to you
[15:08] <Blackwizard_> @reisio ok...let me check it...thanks
[15:10] <kirkland> e-dard: yes, you can easily create a new "session" in byobu with ctrl-shift-F2
[15:10] <whoever> OerHeks: check this hick out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apiH_iUhye4
[15:10] <e-dard> kirkland: ah cool. That's the ticket!
[15:10] <kirkland> e-dard: F2 creates new windows, ctrl-F2 creates vertical splits, shift-F2 creates horizontal splits, and ctrl-shift-F2 creates new sessions :-)
[15:11] <kirkland> e-dard: when you login, and there are multiple sessions, you'll get prompted to select which one you want
[15:12] <kirkland> e-dard: and you can also use alt-Up/alt-Down to move between sessions
[15:12] <e-dard> kirkland: great!
[15:13] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: try pastebinning all the errors, and I might be able to help
[15:13] <gbit86> Any here using Wyse and xrdp?
[15:14] <reisio> gbit86: what if someone here were?
[15:16] <gbit86> reisio: Then I'd kindly asked if they have tried printing to a locally attached usb printer on the wyse via the xRDP server?
[15:16] <gbit86> :)
[15:16] <reisio> gbit86: what if someone here were that had tried that?
[15:17] <gisyangli> ChogyDan: i paset it here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006763/
[15:17] <thejollygrimreap> ChogyDan: it seems to have worked, opengl is working now,
[15:17] <thejollygrimreap> the onyl problem now is the resolution, it's stuck on 1024.768
[15:17] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: cool
[15:18] <gbit86> reisio: Then I'd know I can implement it too
[15:18] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: if you havent, try the nvidia-settings tool
[15:18] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: are all these packages in the repos?
[15:18] <thejollygrimreap> ChogyDan: i tried that it didn't install it
[15:19] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: What does xrandr say about available screen sizes?
[15:20] <thejollygrimreap> usr13:the error it throw up is about the gamma
[15:20] <thejollygrimreap> user13: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[15:20] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: You have nvidia driver in use?
[15:20] <thejollygrimreap> user13:opengl works now so i assume so ,
[15:20] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: If so, there will be a gui config for it.
[15:21] <darkangel_> Hey is Getting Pre-Released Updates good or bad?
[15:21] <thejollygrimreap> user13: the nvidia-settings package isn't installed
[15:21] <ChogyDan> darkangel_: if you are asking, bad
[15:21] <darkangel_> ok =) thx
[15:21] <thejollygrimreap> user13: it shouldn't do anything .. bad if i install it should it ?
[15:21] <maxi298> I need your help
[15:22] <usr13> thejollygrimreap:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:22] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:23] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: http://pastebin.com/853A9SUZ
[15:24] <maxi298> I have an Alienware X51 and I want install Ubuntu 13.04 64-biton it dual boot with Windows 7. When the Installation Type shows up there is only "Erase Hard Disk and install Ubuntu" anyone have an idea? :(
[15:25] <tyteen4a03> hi, trying to gnome 3.8 but got this message: https://gist.github.com/tyteen4a03/76ec7914262e9fcf636d Can anyone tell me what to do next?
[15:25] <usr13> thejollygrimreap:  Setting up VESA Mode 0x118 (1024x768)
[15:25] <gisyangli> ChogyDan : I add a unoffical repo     sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://repos.codelite.org/wx2.9/ubuntu/ raring universe'
[15:26] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: and you are running 13.04?
[15:26] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: "Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)"  "LoadModule: "vesa"
[15:27] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: so it's not loading the nvidia driver ...
[15:27] <gisyangli> I running with ubuntu 12.04
[15:27] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: No it's not.  What does lspci say about your video card?
[15:27] <daftykins> but the nvidia module != "nv"
[15:27] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: you followed the isntructions for 13.04, that's the problem's source
[15:28] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[15:28] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)
[15:28] <gisyangli> thanks , I notice it. i should change the raring to precise
[15:28] <gisyangli> thanks
[15:28] <thejollygrimreap> usr13:CrunchBang Linux waldorf \n \l
[15:29] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: ya
[15:29] <Siebjee> Does some one know the new IRC channel of Canonical, or has a phone numer of the sales department ?
[15:29] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: 32bit?
[15:29] <thejollygrimreap> yes 32bit
[15:30] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.html
[15:30] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: do you want to buy a support contract?
[15:30] <FabioTorino> Hello everyone!
[15:30] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: /join #crunchbang
[15:30] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, Yes, and ask a couple of questions
[15:30] <FabioTorino> I've problem with github.
[15:31] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: already tried that one gave me a compiler issue
[15:31] <FabioTorino> my problem is : error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing http://github.com/shinesoftware/shineisp/info/refs
[15:31] <FabioTorino> fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:31] <FabioTorino> Anyone know how fix this?
[15:31] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: well, you are welcome to try the community support here.  Here is a weblink for Canonical: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/contact-us
[15:31] <ChogyDan> dunno about the irc chan
[15:32] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, its more about server support. Also asked in #ubuntu-server
[15:32] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: Well, I don't know about the compiler issue, but NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run is what is needed for for your display adapter.
[15:32] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: well, I think if you will out the webpage contact form, you will get in touch with someone who knows all that, who is paid to know all that  :)
[15:32] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: Ask on #crunchbang
[15:32] <Siebjee> Also their main person on the switchboard is not redirecting the call correctly
[15:33] <ChogyDan> oh
[15:33] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, I need to speak to one more or less like yesterday
[15:33] <Siebjee> and been trying all day to contact them. Also i have filled in the form 2 days ago
[15:34] <MasterAsia> I can't get the USB install instructions to work, it keeps corrupting my USB
[15:34] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: well, try crashing #ubuntu-devel   ?   They may be annoyed, but they might at least be able to direct you
[15:35] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, Cheers :)
[15:35] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: gl!
[15:35] <Siebjee> Thanks :)
[15:46] <edve>  DCOM	10009 error keeps happening on Windows server that has Ubuntu server into his domain, anybody knows why ?
[15:46] <daftykins> edve: that kinda seems more like Windows support to me
[15:47] <diphtherial> hey, is it normal that apt-get should not be available from the recovery mode root command prompt?
[15:47] <diphtherial> er, and if it is, is there a way to boot the machine to the console, but still be able to install packages?
[15:48] <diphtherial> (i've noticed that 'network' freezes when i attempt to choose that option, too, which is apparently a known issue)
[15:48] <daftykins> diphtherial: why not liveCD and chroot
[15:49] <eltigre> hey, I just installed ubuntu on an SSD in my older desktop pc, which previously ran flawlessly under Ubuntu on a normal hard drive... now after the reinstall, the system crashes every few hours
[15:49] <edve> daftykins i was wondering if it was normal :/
[15:49] <eltigre> any idea what I might do for debugging this?
[15:49] <daftykins> eltigre: which SSD?
[15:49] <diphtherial> daftykins: that's not a bad idea; does chroot literally change to where the / refers?
[15:49] <eltigre> could it be the nouveau driver for nvidia? Before that I had the proprietary nvidia driver installed
[15:49] <daftykins> !chroot | diphtherial
[15:49] <eltigre> daftykins, Samsung
[15:50] <daftykins> diphtherial: yep
[15:50] <daftykins> eltigre: latest firmware?
[15:50] <eltigre> daftykins, how would I know?
[15:50] <eltigre> daftykins, I didn't update it though
[15:50] <FabioTorino> error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing http://github.com/shinesoftware/shineisp/info/refs
[15:50] <FabioTorino> fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:50] <FabioTorino> Anyone kno how fix that problem?
[15:51] <daftykins> eltigre: you'd check out samsungs site for an updater :D it's easiest done from Windows sadly :(
[15:51] <diphtherial> daftykins: er, i'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to doing things in linux that aren't just using it...say that i boot from a liveCD, but want to install packages into an installation on a drive
[15:51] <eltigre> daftykins, yeah, but are they really shipping drives that crash the pc in normal use?
[15:51] <diphtherial> daftykins: how do i go about mounting the drive, then chrooting into it to install packages?
[15:52] <Pici> FabioTorino: The page doesn't exist.  I'm not sure what you expect us to do about it.  It seems tangentally related to Ubuntu as well.
[15:52] <winbtc_moarrr> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1kpsi5/i_put_all_my_life_savings_into_bitcoins/
[15:53] <Pici> winbtc_moarrr: Please don't post off-topic links here.
[15:53] <winbtc_moarrr> oh sorry
[15:53] <outch3> diphtherial : why not downloading the .deb file from a mirror and put it on the hard drive? reboot in the os and install
[15:53] <daftykins> eltigre: it's just an idea.
[15:53] <eltigre> daftykins, thanks anyway
[15:54] <daftykins> diphtherial: the link the bot gave you shows how
[15:54] <FabioTorino> Ok
[15:58] <diphtherial> daftykins: is it possible to install packages while you're running from a liveCD?
[15:58] <daftykins> diphtherial: yes using the chroot method, we seem to be going in circles!?
[15:59] <diphtherial> daftykins: the first step of the directions you sent me advises me to install dchroot and deboostrap
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: yes, your storage is limited by RAM though so you may run out of space etc
[15:59] <diphtherial> are these going to be installed on the liveCD, since we haven't chrooted yet?
[15:59] <diphtherial> ah, alright, that makes some sense
[15:59] <CountryfiedLinux> where in here is my GPU? http://pastebin.com/arJH6rGi
[16:00] <diphtherial> frankly, i don't even know exactly what this guy's problem is...we're just kind of going over the same old things because he's too intelligent to take my advice verbatim
[16:00] <diphtherial> which means he says things like "tried that, didn't work"
[16:00] <rosco_y> Would anyone recommend that I put /usr/sbin in my path?  Conversely, would anyone recommend that I NOT put it in my path?
[16:00] <daftykins> diphtherial: you'd be able to install software in the livecd environment because you'd have an internet connection, so you'd pull down the tools to be able to mount the hard disk install *then* install stuff on that :)
[16:01] <rosco_y> daftykins: what are you trying to do?
[16:02] <diphtherial> rosco_y: i assume that was meant for me? i'm trying to help a colleague troubleshoot his broken ubuntu installation
[16:02] <rosco_y> diphtherial: ok, I was doing something like that awhile ago, so I peeped up
[16:02] <diphtherial> apparently he lacks the appropriate graphics card drivers to properly boot from the installation once it's installed; he gets "The system is running in low-graphics mode", and then the machine just freezes up
[16:02] <diphtherial> ah, thanks :)
[16:02] <daftykins> rosco_y: you see how i worded my statement? i'm not the one asking...
[16:02] <rosco_y> oh, different problem then
[16:03] <diphtherial> i apologize if i'm being frustrating, and i do appreciate the help
[16:03] <diphtherial> it's just that we've been in the midst of trying to solve the problem ourselves and so we're at this inconsistent state between being totally helpless and having some idea of what to do
[16:04] <rosco_y> I was dealing with a "all-in-one" piece of junk, and the hard drive was inaccessible--I let the kids use run it off the live CD
[16:04] <rosco_y> that works pretty well for them--they like to go on PBS KIds and watch cartoons and play games
[16:04] <diphtherial> ah, yeah, fortunately the hdd is accessible here :)
[16:04] <diphtherial> ideal liveCD setup, heh
[16:05] <diphtherial> no persistent state required
[16:05] <rosco_y> right, and they can't wreck anything (well, it's a theory)
[16:10] <nicole_> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 32 bit on my Toshiba laptop. I cannot get my wireless to work. The card I have is a Realtek RTL8188CE. Can someone help me?
[16:11] <holstein> !wireless | nicole_
[16:12] <nicole_> holstein: tried that
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     does it use the rtl8192ce driver?
[16:12] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: I will check
[16:13] <diphtherial> ActionParsnip: oh, for what it's worth, we got the grub issue sorted out that i mentioned before; he was apparently using "the wrong grub install tool", whatever that means
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: also run:  sudo iwlist scan | egrep 'ssid|chan'    do you have many networks on the same channel? DO you see networks?
[16:13] <diphtherial> he can boot from the partition now, but it gives him a message that it's running in low-graphics mode, then freezes
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm     do you see the OS missing firmware files?
[16:16] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006950/ and no to the last one
[16:16] <moondog> diphtherial: I had that happen... when I screwed up permissions on /var
[16:16] <magdur> guys are we using laptop on charjing  long time like a windows ?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: try:   sudo modprobe rtl8192ce
[16:17] <holstein> magdur: please rephrase so that a volunteer can understand what you are asking
[16:17] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: It just comes back up to the prompt
[16:17] <diphtherial> moondog: hmm, this is fresh installation; i don't know if he's had time screw up /var, heh
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: do you have wireless with the realtek card now?
[16:18] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: No, I'm borrowing an external WiFi adapter from a friend
[16:18] <holstein> nicole_: try the unit in question, after running the modprobe command
 can i use long time on charging my laptop? for instance on windows i can use 4 hour but now at ubuntu 2 hour
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: ok, unplug that then try your wifi, is it ok?
[16:18] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: OK
[16:19] <holstein> magdur: what are you asking? can ubuntu take longer to charge your laptop?
 yes
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: or, run:  echo rtl8192ce | sudo tee -a /etc/modules    and reboot without the USB wifi
[16:19] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: No, it does not show anything
[16:20] <holstein> magdur: i dont think so, and i dont know why you would want that
[16:20] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: OK, BRB
[16:20] <ChogyDan> what program do I use to edit a pdf file?
[16:21] <holstein> ChogyDan: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-pdf-editing-tools-for-ubuntu.html
[16:21] <ChogyDan> holstein: thanks!
[16:21] <sideone> hey all, i have squid rolling over its logs, which i imagine is from the native unix syslog rotator, does anyone have a faq on this process? i would like to prefix the date and directory for rolling over the log files for squid. If not, should i use a project like logrotate? thanks
[16:21] <holstein> !info flpsed
 i want to use longer time with charging
[16:22] <holstein> magdur: you want it to take longer to charge the battery?
 yes i want
[16:22] <holstein> magdur: i would look for a setting in the bios, or ask the manufacturer of the machine for driver support for whatever feature you are wanting
[16:23] <holstein> magdur: i dont understand why you would want that
[16:23] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: Didn't work. I had to plug the USB adapter back in
 for more mobility
[16:24] <shashank> I totally messed up the network settings on my ubuntu, currently I am not able to use either wired connection nor mobile broadband. Is there any way, using a ubuntu bootable usb or otherwise using which I can restore the network settings. If I copy the /etc/network from someone's computer and replace mine with them, would it work?
[16:24] <holstein> magdur: i dont think so, friend.. if it takes twice as long to charge your laptop.. that is not "more mobility"
[16:24] <Guest13929> i need help installing my hp printer
[16:24] <holstein> magdur: are you asking for a longer battery life in ubuntu?
[16:24] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: The funny thing is, it worked when I ran it from LiveCD
[16:25] <Guest13929> i need help installing my hp printer
[16:25] <holstein> nicole_: then, try booting an older kernel. hopefully, the kernel that you were using on the live CD.. usually, during install, i wont take the updates at that time so i get the *exacty* same thing from the live on the insatlled system
[16:25] <holstein> Guest13929: please dont repeat
[16:25] <holstein> !printing
[16:25] <holstein> Guest13929: ^
[16:26] <nicole_> holstein: OK, I'm not sure how to roll back the kernel
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest13929  you've come the right place, this is the support channel
[16:27] <holstein> nicole_: choose it at boot.. dont "roll back" anything.. choose the older kernel from grub at boot and test.. nothing permanent
[16:28] <nicole_> holstein: Will do. I will let you know what happens
[16:29] <shashank>  I totally messed up the network settings on my ubuntu, currently I am not able to use either wired connection nor mobile broadband. Is there any way, using a ubuntu bootable usb or otherwise using which I can restore the network settings. If I copy the /etc/network from someone's computer and replace mine with them, would it work?
[16:30] <holstein> !patience | shashank
[16:30] <holstein> shashank: how did you "totally mess" what up?
[16:31] <nicole_> holstein: That worked
[16:32] <holstein> nicole_: so,, you can use/boot the older kernel, and keep checking in and see if a newer kernel update/upgrade "fixes" support for your device
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: grab this and install it, should be ok ubuntuone.com/5lXovIEjNfiZLmN59Rx9Wp you may want to remove the line you added to /etc/modules    source of link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/902557
[16:33] <shashank> holstein: earlier my mobile broadband (huawei tata photon+ was not working, Ubuntu was not able to detect it. I looked up on internet and made a few changes. I made multiple changes so I don't exactly remember what I did.
[16:34] <Guest13929> alright, so i get to the point of running HPLIP and it wont open the file.
[16:34] <holstein> shashank: then, i would just fresh reinstall, and come here *before* copy/pasting *any* commands that you dont understand, or want to make note of
[16:34] <Guest13929> ive installed it before but my pc crashed and now i cant remember how i did it
[16:34] <Guest13929> thats what i just did, and it wont open it
[16:34] <holstein> Guest13929: did you open the GUI and try adding the printer with the wizard? is it a network printer? connected VIA usb?
[16:35] <Guest13929> its connected VIA usb on a home pc
[16:35] <holstein> Guest13929: plug it in, turn it on. and open "add a printer"
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> !details | Guest13929
[16:36] <holstein> Guest13929: if you want do download and use a tool from HP, HP will support that
[16:36] <Guest13929> i have ubuntu 12.04 and when i download HPLIP and try to run it, it wont open
[16:36] <holstein> Guest13929: try the GUI in the menu.. friend
[16:36] <holstein> Guest13929: when i plug in my HP printer and click "add printer", i can print to it
[16:37] <oana_> Hello
[16:38] <oana_> can anyone help me with a gcc problem?
[16:38] <holstein> !details > oana_
[16:39] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: what was the line I added?
[16:39] <Guest13929> so when i install it with the wizard, i go to print a test page and nothing happens
[16:39] <Guest13929> ive done this like 20 times
[16:39] <ChogyDan> Any help with a microphone on a usb webcam would be appreciated
[16:39] <oana_> okay, I tried to install the cuda toolkit 5, but for that I needed gcc v4.4
[16:39] <holstein> Guest13929: sometimes, i try different drivers, and i find one that works.. try using a different type or a close model in the GUI
[16:39] <oana_> so I tried to uninstall my current version 4.7 and install v 4.4
[16:40] <oana_> the problem is that I think I couldn't fully uninstall the previous version so when I tried to reinstall gcc everything went wrong
[16:40] <holstein> oana_: gcc 4.4? and in the repos its 4.7?
[16:40] <Guest13929> ok ill try and older HPLIP
[16:40] <holstein> Guest13929: try other driver veresions in the gui.. that is my suggestion.. not "older hplip"
[16:41] <oana_> holstein, yes gcc-4.4 and gcc-4.7.
[16:42] <noiro> Can someone walk me through finding the correct wireless driver I need for this laptop? I am fairly certain it's broadcom, but the b43-fwcutter driver doens't qualify
[16:42] <oana_> here's the error I get when I tried to reinstall it error: alternative path /usr/bin/gcc doesn't exist
[16:42] <holstein> oana_: if you go "out of repo" like that, you are expected to maintain everything on your own.. i would ask the maintainers how you are meant to use the product they are making
[16:42] <holstein> oana_: sometime, its easy to step back to an older version in the repos.. also, sometimes, when changing a core piece of software, you break *many* things
[16:43] <lucidium> I'm trying to install the unreal tournament goty run file, but I get an error saying that libgtk-1.2.so.0 is missing. How can I install these libraries?
[16:43] <oana_> holstein, I know, it was my fault, now I am trying to find a solution to the problem
[16:43] <holstein> lucidium: i would ask the maintainers.. maybe it is "out of date" and not compatible with the operating system you are using
[16:44] <oana_> the error I get seems to be part of the build-essential package so I tried this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6007037/
[16:47] <noiro> Can someone help me with wireless drivers por favor? A poor soul unknowing of how to proceed
[16:47] <usr13> oana_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc-multilib
[16:47] <ChogyDan> !details | noiro
[16:47] <usr13> noiro: iwconfig  #What does that say?
[16:48] <noiro> usr13: wlan0: IEEE 802.11bg
[16:48] <noiro> ESSID: off/any
[16:49] <bean> noiro: please pastebin it :)
[16:49] <usr13> noiro: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:49] <mojtaba> My computer is dual boot with windows, but I have about 100G free space in my windows drive, does anybody know how can I shrink that volume and add that space to my home?
[16:49] <usr13> mojtaba: MS Windows 7?
[16:49] <pumafied> Use gparted from a live usb
[16:49] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: I would boot with a livecd, and use gparted.  That's what I would do
[16:49] <mojtaba> usr13: yes
[16:49] <noiro> usr13: interface doesn't support scanning. Network is down
[16:49] <pumafied> ChogyDan: lol
[16:50] <ChogyDan> :)
[16:50] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: Why should I use live cd?
[16:50] <pumafied> Because you cant resize partitions being used
[16:50] <usr13> noiro: What about the network manager?  Does it show any available wireless networks?
[16:51] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: so sometimes you can get away with it, but... many times not.
[16:51] <manik> Hello. can anybody tell me how to edit right click menu so that I could add option for a new text document?
[16:51] <noiro> usr13: No. I had to remove the wireless card during installation as it'd keep crashing it before it had time to look at partitions/HDDs. I plugged it back in afterwards
[16:51] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: What if I do not mount the windows drive, do I still need to use live CD?
[16:51] <noiro> It says WLAN interface unavailable
[16:51] <ChogyDan> noiro: can you post the model and type of this card?
[16:52] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: no, you wouldn't.  Do you have another install I take it then?  beyond the windows install
[16:52] <pumafied> Yes because the linux part would be used
[16:52] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: I have ubuntu, windows
[16:53] <pumafied> mojtaba: The live is to make sure nothing on your harddrive is being touched by anything but the partition manager
[16:53] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: o yeah, you would still have to not being using ubuntu, since you want to add it to /home
[16:53] <pumafied> mojtaba: So you would have to
[16:53] <noiro> ChogyDan: Broadcom CBM4311
[16:53] <justinfront> Hi when installing via virtualbox how do I setup my user password so I can sudo?
[16:53] <pumafied> mojtaba: It kind of sucks that you have to so I always have a flashdrive on me ready to be live booted
[16:54] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: I see, and could you please let me know what should I do exactly with gparted? Does it have a GUI? or from where can I find it?
[16:54] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: it has a gui
[16:54] <mojtaba> pumafied: I prefer to use flash drive too.
[16:54] <usr13> noiro: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[16:54] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: Could you please let me know from where can I get it?
[16:55] <pumafied> mojtaba: It has a gui and if you look up a partitioning tutorial it should have it
[16:55] <cloneG> is there an enhanced sound manager for ubuntu I find kind of poor what you can do with the default one
[16:55] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: sudo apt-get install gparted     ?
[16:55] <pumafied> mojtaba: It will be in the default repository so you can just run sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:55] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: And also still I want to keep my windows. Does the gparted keep my windows safe?
[16:56] <mojtaba> pumafied: How should I have it on my usb stick, to boot up with it?
[16:56] <pumafied> mojtaba: boot it in live mode then just use sudo apt-get install
[16:56] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: oh, you can just use a regular ubuntu live install
[16:56] <mojtaba> pumafied: Thanks
[16:57] <mojtaba> pumafied: ChogyDan: Will my windows be still operative? as I have some expensive software on it.
[16:57] <usr13> mojtaba: Although, I've yet to loose data using gparted, it is always a risk when you resize a partition.  Back up any important data you may have.
[16:58] <mojtaba> usr13: Thanks. And the last question, how can I make a usb stick ubuntu bootable?
[16:58] <pumafied> mojtaba: I agree with usr13
[16:58] <noiro> usr13: No such file or directory
[16:59] <noiro> Oh usr13: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \r
[16:59] <noiro> *\n \l
[16:59] <usr13> noiro: So you say you removed what?
[16:59] <Melksu> Hi! a new driver for my graphics card was made available today, but it won't install. Jockey is spitting out tons of errors, has anyone else installed fglrx-experimental-13?
[17:00] <usr13> noiro: You said that you removed the wireless card?  So, did you put it back in?
[17:01] <mojtaba> pumafied: And the last question, how can I make a usb stick ubuntu bootable?
[17:01] <noiro> usr13: I removed the wireless card during installation as it was crashing installation. And yes, it is back in
[17:01] <noiro> I also tried: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source just now and rebooted and mentions of wireless disappeared. modprobe wl freezes the Terminal
[17:02] <noiro> I think the wl driver driver is the correct one, but I forget what I did to fix and make modprobe work
[17:02] <usr13> noiro: Fully updated?  If not, do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:02] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[17:03] <thepeopleschamp> can someone link me to a nice .icc file that i can use the best color quality possible on my hp?
[17:04] <usr13> noiro: Did you install firmware?
[17:05] <bomber> Hello there folks
[17:05] <bomber> My system keeps changing the time ahead 4 hours when i reboot.. It started after I did an upgrade and the local and time zone seems to be fine. I even changed the time in the bios to the correct time and it still goes ahead 4 hours. Any suggestions?
[17:05] <noiro> usr13: isn't bcmwl-kernel-source the firmware?
[17:06] <noiro> If I remember in the past, it is because Ubuntu tries the wrong firmware originally and modprobe can't assign since the wrong driver is active and trying on the hardware
[17:06] <usr13> noiro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[17:07] <m_> nobidy?
[17:08] <DJones> !anybody | m_
[17:08] <m_> does anybody tell me how to edit right click menu so that I could add option for a new text document?
[17:09] <usr13> m_: In _________________ ?
[17:09] <cloneG> I ve using recordmydesktop for a while and I thought something went wrong when installing because I never managed to record sound... till last month
[17:09] <cloneG> the point is that the recorded sound was the sound that mic was capturing
[17:10] <bomber> if you hover over the desktop highlighted area you'll get your diffeernet menu when you right click
[17:10] <m_> Lubuntu
[17:10] <usr13> cloneG: Yep  :)
[17:10] <bomber> m
[17:10] <m_> File manager usr12
[17:10] <m_> usr13 File manager
[17:10] <Pici> !tab
[17:10] <cloneG> is there a way to tell recordmydesktop to use direct sound from player?
[17:11] <usr13> cloneG: Not that I know of.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[17:11] <usr13> cloneG: (There is probably a better way.)
[17:11] <usr13> cloneG: Sound from what player?
[17:12] <cloneG> as well as recordmydesktop captures images, programs playing on desktop capture sound
[17:12] <cloneG> the sound of those applications
[17:12] <cloneG> videos or whatever without the need of a mic
[17:12] <usr13> cloneG: You want to record a video?
[17:13] <cloneG> for instance
[17:13] <cloneG> imagine I want to record some videos playing on desktop
[17:13] <cloneG> and I want the music on them aswell
[17:13] <usr13> cloneG: Why not just put the videos together in another way?
[17:14] <cloneG> yep I ve been doing that with openshot
[17:14] <usr13> cloneG: And add to it your recordmydesktop video as well.
[17:14] <cloneG> but that is double work
[17:14] <usr13> cloneG: What is openshot?
[17:14] <cloneG> a video editing program
[17:15] <cloneG> there must be a way as long as recordmydesktop records sound from mic...
[17:15] <cloneG> there must be a way to record the sound a player is playing at that very moment youre recording
[17:16] <cloneG> without the need to mount both afterwards
[17:16] <cloneG> any ubuntu tweak?
[17:16] <cloneG> in the ubuntu sound manager
[17:17] <cloneG> input sound can be switched between mic...
[17:17] <cloneG> and online
[17:17] <cloneG> is that it?
[17:17] <usr13> cloneG: ffmpeg -i video1.avi -sameq video1.mpg && ffmepg -i video2.mp4 -sameq video2.mpg && cat video1.mpg video2.mpg > new-video.mpg
[17:17] <cloneG> ¿
[17:17] <cloneG> ?
[17:18] <cloneG> usr13 what was that?
[17:18] <cloneG> usr13 what that does?
[17:18] <Phoenix1969> OK, have the black screen with cursor at top left after boot, and turned out to be no graphics driver...So now I have the driver..  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run  dropped into the maun ubuntu folder...what do I do now to run it?
[17:18] <usr13> !info ffmpeg | cloneG
[17:19] <adamk> cloneG: If you want to record the audio that is playing on your computer, use pavucontrol to record the monitor of your sound device: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171287/how-to-pass-record-audio-output-as-an-input-device
[17:20] <cloneG> cool adamk!
[17:20] <cloneG> adamk that was the answer I was searching for
[17:21] <usr13> cloneG: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_3.php
[17:23] <usr13> cloneG: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_3c.php
[17:24] <Phoenix1969> HELP OK, have the black screen with cursor at top left after boot, and turned out to be no graphics driver...So now I have the driver..  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run  dropped into the maun ubuntu folder...what do I do now to run it?
[17:25] <usr13> cloneG: But it seems to be to be strange to record a video via recordmydesktop.  Not sure why you'd want to do that.
[17:25] <adamk> Phoenix1969: You really shouldn't be installing the driver that way.  It's packaged in the repos very nicely for Ubuntu.
[17:25] <adamk> Phoenix1969: What video card do you have?
[17:25] <cloneG> usr13 hmmmm....I must be running an older version of the program
[17:25] <Phoenix1969> How can I access the repos with a blank screen?
[17:25] <bekks> Phoenix1969: press ctrl+alt+f1
[17:25] <Phoenix1969> the gigabyte 7970
[17:26] <usr13> cloneG: If you have the video(s) already on your hard drive, you can do what you want with them anyway, but to stream and record via a screen capture application seems a bit out of the ordinary.
[17:26] <usr13> cloneG: cat /etc/issue   #What does that say?
[17:26] <Phoenix1969> ctrl alt f1 will access the gui store?
[17:26] <adamk> Phoenix1969: If you pass the 'nomodeset' option to the kernel via grub, Xorg should start up with the vesa driver, allowing you to see your desktop.
[17:26] <bekks> Phoenix1969: You mean: ATI Radeon HD 7970. :)
[17:26] <usr13> cloneG: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:26] <Phoenix1969> i tried nomodeset, didnt work
[17:26] <bekks> s/ATI/AMD/
[17:27] <cloneG> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[17:27] <usr13> cloneG: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:27] <Phoenix1969> yes bekks
[17:28] <adamk> Phoenix1969: If Xorg still didn't start when using nomodeset, then I'm not convinced this is a video driver issue.
[17:28] <usr13> cloneG: You said "I must be running an older version of the program".  Define "the program".
[17:28] <Phoenix1969> huh
[17:28] <cloneG> usr13: I dont have jack option available
[17:29] <cloneG> usr13 it is faded
[17:29] <usr13> cloneG: Then jack is not installed.
[17:29] <dfarmer> Hi all, I saw in updates this morning (for 12.04 x86/64) the jockey stuff related to hybrid graphics. I looked around and found the stuff on using raring kernel/xorg etc, but was curious if anyone knows if the hybrid enabled stuff supports power management or just acceleration?
[17:29] <Phoenix1969> ill try, brb
[17:30] <adamk> cloneG: jackd is not necessary for the solution I gave you, just so you know.
[17:30] <usr13> cloneG: sudo apt-get install jack
[17:30] <cloneG> usr13: so I need to install jack and then recordmydesktop would record directly from the sound card?
[17:30] <usr13> adamk: He said jack?
[17:30] <cloneG> usr13: okay
[17:31] <adamk> usr13: ?  Not sure I understand what you're asking... You are suggesting a solution that requires jack, and I gave him a solution earlier that does not require it. That's all.
[17:31] <usr13> cloneG: But again, I believe you are going the long way around the block if you are recording existing videos via recordmydesktop
[17:32] <cloneG> adamk: not necessary but it seems I would need another program called...opensoundrecorder
[17:32] <bekks> cloneG: Why dont you rip the audio stream out of the video?
[17:32] <bekks> cloneG: you dont need any recorder to do so.
[17:33] <usr13> adamk: Well, I asked if he said jack.  Apparently he did.  He should probably try your solution, maybe he will, I don't know, but his original question was how to get recordmydesktop to capture audio from a video stream.
[17:33] <cloneG> usr13: not recording videos but several applications at same time...both graphical and sound players
[17:33] <usr13> adamk: (Although that is not the way he said it, it is obviously what he ment.)
[17:34] <usr13> cloneG: Ok...
[17:34] <cloneG> usr13 so there is no need for later editing
[17:34] <usr13> cloneG: At any rate, looks like we have given you the information you need.
[17:34] <cloneG> usr13 lazy recording
[17:34] <MasterAsia> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ -> There is a 64-bit mac install image here
[17:34] <cloneG> yep
[17:35] <MasterAsia> Will this bypass the EFI thing?
[17:35] <cloneG> time to dig
[17:35] <bekks> MasterAsia: No. You cant bypass it.
[17:35] <MasterAsia> Trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac Mini 2.1
[17:35] <MasterAsia> bekks: How can I install Ubuntu on my Mac Mini then?
[17:35] <Actionparsnip> !mac
[17:35] <bekks> MasterAsia: By using the mac iso. You just cant bypass UEFI.
[17:35] <Pudge> the quality of desktop video record depends on what? application ? video card? driver?
[17:36] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Already checked those, it just 'works' for them. I have an older 2007 mac mini
[17:36] <MasterAsia> bekks: I'm getting a "select cd rom boot type" error
[17:36] <MasterAsia> Is that related to UEFI?
[17:36] <bekks> MasterAsia: I dont have a Mac, I dont know.
[17:37] <Maple__> MasterAsia, what else?
[17:37] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: don't you hold C to boot from CD
[17:37] <Maple__> as in, is it giving you any options...?
[17:37] <MasterAsia> Maple__: Just says 1, and 2. No options, keyboard no longer works
[17:37] <Maple__> uh, idk
[17:37] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: I -am- booting from the cd
[17:37] <MasterAsia> It craps out after I select cd from the boot menu
[17:38] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: ok did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:38] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Yep. Even tried it on my newer Imac
[17:38] <MasterAsia> it loaded up fine
[17:38] <cloneG> usr13: problems with jack-->http://www.pasteall.org/44993/bash
[17:40] <viniciuh> hey
[17:40] <viniciuh> i have problem apache2
[17:40] <daftykins> ask away
[17:40] <m_> which file manager do you guys prefer?
[17:41] <daftykins> on one line if possible
[17:41] <viniciuh> can someone help me?
[17:41] <bekks> m_: network manager.
[17:41] <cloneG> usr13 that jack is not the jack I am looking for
[17:41] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: I guess you have seen this:
[17:41] <Actionparsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[17:41] <Pudge> m_: try ranger
[17:41] <cloneG> usr13 you lazy bone!
[17:41] <Pudge> m_: the best one, u will love it, especially if u love CLI
[17:41] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Yes. That wiki is actually not helpful. It assumes that the LiveCD will boot.
[17:41] <Actionparsnip> Viniciuh: without details. ..no
[17:41] <m_> Works well in Lubuntu? Pudge
[17:42] <cloneG> which jack should I install for recordmydesktop to work?
[17:42] <Pudge> m_: ofcoz
[17:42] <m_> Let me give it a try then. Thanks. pudge
[17:42] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: try burning the CD slow or is the CD you have burned as slowly as possible already?
[17:42] <Pudge> m_: its CLI, so it doesn't depend on any DE
[17:42] <viniciuh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6007253/
[17:42] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: The cd works on a newer i-mac
[17:42] <elixir> Hi
[17:43] <viniciuh> Actionparsnip: the error
[17:43] <elixir> Anyone here?
[17:43] <Pudge> m_: if u love vim, its vim style, perfect
[17:43] <m_> Got it. Pudge
[17:43] <elixir> Pudge, I don't like it
[17:43] <Actionparsnip> M_: pcmanfm for GUI but I use guake more for file management now
[17:43] <Pudge> elixir: ofcoz u can
[17:44] <m_> Actionparsnip Pcmanfm is nice but needs a few more settings, no?
[17:44] <elixir> Pudge, i want to try rm -rf /
[17:44] <Pudge> elixir: go ahead
[17:44] <Actionparsnip>  Masterasia : yes the drive will be newer and handle faster media.  Old stuff benefits from slow burning
[17:44] <m_> Actionparsnip how is guake?
[17:44] <elixir> Actionparsnip, i tried it on Server
[17:44] <elixir> only
[17:45] <Actionparsnip>  Elixir: spin up a vm and go for it
[17:45] <elixir> Actionparsnip, Any Sys Admin here?
[17:46] <Actionparsnip> M_: its a terminal that hides and shows on shortcut key. Otherwise it's no different to gnome terminal
[17:46] <Actionparsnip>  Elixir : what does 'sys admin' mean?
[17:46] <elixir> Actionparsnip, i mean System Adminstrator
[17:47] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : most people here will be responsible for their updates etc so are techically system administrators
[17:47] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : bit of a worthless question
[17:47] <elixir> Actionparsnip, ok
[17:47] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Ok.
[17:47] <BluesKaj> elixir, ask your real question
[17:47] <MasterAsia> I don't think Ubuntu and Mac were supposed to meet.
[17:48] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : again, what do you mean 'system administrator'?
[17:48] <DrDamnit> I am trying to connect to a remote Ubuntu 12.04 LTS box with either VNC or XRDP. Problem is: the unity bar on the left is auto-hiding, so I can't do anything. How can I get to that bar?
[17:48] <fartface> If I have a ZFS pool, and my OS dies without a pool backup, will I lose the ability to import that pool on another system?
[17:48] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia : never had an issue running livecd to fix my moron friends who use mac and don't backup
[17:49] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: ahahah
[17:49] <Actionparsnip>  Masterasia : try a slower burned disk
[17:50] <elixir> How much IO SSD Provides?
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit: what do you intend to do on the remote desktop session?
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : ask in ##hardware
[17:50] <DrDamnit> client is using Thunderbird, and has decided he wants to switch to evolution. Just need to do some maintenance and setup some email accounts.
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : you didn't answer my question earlier
[17:51] <elixir> ok
[17:51] <elixir> Actionparsnip, as google
[17:51] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : what do you mean?
[17:52] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : 'as Google' with no context is nothing.
[17:52] <elixir> ok
[17:52] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : want to answer my question now? I have been decent enough to answer you....
[17:53] <elixir> Actionparsnip, what's your question?
[17:53] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : what do you mean by 'system administrator ' also, why ask
[17:54] <elixir> SSD VS RAM, i should get more RAM for Performace of mysql server or SSD
[17:54] <DrDamnit> Actionparsnip: client is using Thunderbird, and has decided he wants to switch to evolution. Just need to do some maintenance and setup some email accounts.
[17:54] <elixir> Current disk IO , UnixBench score: 1403.3
[17:54] <elixir> I/O rate: 570.0 MB/second
[17:54] <elixir> Bandwidth rate: 46.5 MB/second
[17:54] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : doesn't answer my question does it
[17:54] <elixir> That's with SSD
[17:54] <a5m0> can anyone suggest a good/cheap gsm/3g/4g dongle that works with minimal linux fumbling?
[17:54] <elixir> Actionparsnip, i am not wise enough to answer that, appologies
[17:54] <bazhang> elixir, thats offtopic here
[17:55] <newp> hello folks, looking for support regarding installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a new Asus F75V notebook.
[17:55] <elixir> why offtopic, i am running ubuntu
[17:55] <bazhang> elixir, ask in ##hardware
[17:55] <elixir> hmm, what hardware has to do with mysql?
[17:55] <bazhang> elixir, thats a hardware issue, thats why
[17:55] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : can you press Alt+Ctrl+T and run a terminal?
[17:55] <DrDamnit> a5m0: why not get a hotspot? or use wifi tethering? (FoxFi, etc...)
[17:55] <elixir> i am looking for answer in general.
[17:55] <bazhang> elixir, this is the WRONG channel for it
[17:55] <a5m0> DrDamnit: i have a sim card that i would like to use, and would like to run it off the device/not have extra power sources etc
[17:55] <a5m0> and dongles are cheaper
[17:56] <bazhang> elixir, so please stop asking
[17:56] <elixir> bazhang, is there any server channel?
[17:56] <tiky> hi, i have 13.04 and a normal nvidia 325.08 install, trying to figure out how to make the laptop properly suspend on lid close
[17:56] <elixir> bazhang, where i can ask these question?
[17:56] <bazhang> elixir, #ubuntu-server
[17:56] <DrDamnit> I can ssh in and get terminal. CTRL+ALT+T, does nothing. That's from a WIndows box. Let me try it from this Linux box...
[17:56] <Pici> elixir: ##hardware or #mysql may be more appropriate
[17:56] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : you can run the application from there :-)
[17:56] <bazhang> elixir, those are hardware questions, so no
[17:56] <elixir> ok
[17:56] <newp> hello folks, looking for support regarding installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a new Asus F75V notebook.
[17:56] <tiky> the wiki suggests apm but i'm not sure which package provides it, if it's the right tool to use, etc.
[17:57] <Pudge> tiky: not apm, its out of date
[17:57] <newp> don't mean to be a pain, is the a queue I must add myself to?
[17:57] <Pudge> tiky: acpi, or pm-util, laptop-tools
[17:57] <tiky> which would you recommend ?
[17:57] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : or ssh with x forwarding enabled and run the application to then configure it from your pc
[17:58] <Pudge> tiky: pm-util and laptop-tools are both good enough
[17:58] <Actionparsnip> Newp: use usb to test
[17:58] <Pudge> tiky: and i think that they are installed by default
[17:58] <Pudge> tiky: what u need is just config them
[17:58] <newp> what do you mean use USB to test?
[17:59] <newp> oh.. I've installed Ubuntu on several laptops before.
[17:59] <DrDamnit> Actionparsnip: Never used X forwarding before. ran ssh -X theuser@12.345.67.89. How do I attach to the X11 session that's being forwarded?
[17:59] <Actionparsnip> Newp: install ubuntu on a usb stick and test. If it's ok do a real install or even perpetuate the usb
[18:00] <shine_> What is the name of the thing that adds a right click option to exctract compressed files?
[18:00] <newp> when it boots off the USB & gives me the option to "try Ubuntu first w/o installing it", "install Ubuntu" & to "check disc for errors" no matter what choice I choose it goes to a blank screen & hangs
[18:00] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit if the client has an x server it will work.  Just run the app from terminal
[18:00] <newp> laptop has Windows 8 on it installed on another partition
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : the OS doesn't care that the x server is remote.  It's all the same
[18:01] <newp> and it's not the normal purple screen w/ those choices, it's a black screen.
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> Newp: do you have a switching graphics card?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | newp
[18:01] <newp> switching?
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> Newp: intel and nvida
[18:02] <newp> ok thank you ubottu, I will try that.
[18:02] <inkjetunito> do the LTS releases get larger updates? i tried to install 12.04 on an older laptop around 12.06 and the installation froze in an earlz stage. could it be possible that the newer revisions would work (it was likely a kernel problem)
[18:02] <newp> yes I do have an intel i5 & nVidia card
[18:03] <k1l_> inkjetunito: yes, they get a newer kernel with the 12.04.2 release
[18:03] <inkjetunito> k1l_: nice. might be worth retrying then. thanks :)
[18:03] <tiky> ok so how do i run pm-suspend on laptop closeS?
[18:04] <k1l_> inkjetunito: but if its a older laptop it maybe lacks some cpu technics or is just too slow. maybe have a look at lubuntu
[18:04] <m_> Pudge looking for GUI ones
[18:04] <newp> well thank BluesKay, you toggled the bot I see :P
[18:04] <newp> this is a known problem I assume?
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> Newp: its a sany or ivy bridge cpu it will be.  Try the boot option : nouveau.blacklist=1
[18:05] <newp> I'm a bit out of touch with my PC lingo.. how do I select that boot option?
[18:05] <Pudge> m_: lol, for the gui one u have a lot of choice,
[18:05] <newp> sorry to slow you down :(
[18:05] <vedrit> Oh good, I can finally connect. So, I installed Ubuntu last night and, after numerous problems, finally got grub to work and now I'm getting the TTY. I haven't found much of use via searching. Anyone know how I can get the GUI to work?
[18:06] <m_> that's what I am really asked for :) Pudge
[18:06] <Actionparsnip> !nomodeset | newp same method
[18:06] <vedrit> Also, I had to install the startx package
[18:06] <Pudge> tiky: http://people.cs.uct.ac.za/~ksmith/2012/suspend-on-lid-close-in-ubuntu.html
[18:06] <DrDamnit> Actionparsnip: This is the greatest piece of information ever given to me. Thank you.
[18:06] <Pudge> just follow it
[18:07] <Pudge> m_: pcmanfm is good
[18:07] <m_> need  a few more right click menu options Pudge
[18:07] <rtconner> When try to write with non-root user I see "cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device" .. but df -h shows 50% of the drive is free. Root user works fine. No quotas setup on system at all. Any help?
[18:07] <vedrit> Actionparsnip: Was that for me aswell?
[18:08] <newp> thank you guys that are helping me.  I'm gonna try this on the new PC & I'll be back w/ my results.
[18:08] <k1l_> rtconner: can you pastebin a df -h ?
[18:08] <tiky> i did pudge
[18:08] <tiky> i don't think acpi is sending the event, nothing happened
[18:08] <Pudge> tiky: do you have acpi server running?
[18:09] <rtconner> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/5WTQqkWU
[18:09] <tiky> yep, acpid
[18:09] <tiky> does it leave a log?
[18:09] <k1l_> rtconner: /temp is full
[18:09] <k1l_> */tmp
[18:09] <tiky> i don't see anything in dmesg
[18:09] <Pudge> m_: I didn't try a lot of gui FM, so ask sm1 else, sorry
[18:09] <m_> np Pudge
[18:10] <k1l_> rtconner: what ubuntu is that exactly on which machine?
[18:10] <rtconner> k1l_, i clearead all the files out of /tmp and you are corect works now
[18:11] <inkjetunito> in order to install the system with lxde as the de or without any GUI, do i need to use a special iso image?
[18:11] <Pudge> tiky: u should test if the event is triggered when u close the lip
[18:12] <Pudge> inkjetunito: no, u can install normal ubuntu, and than apt-get insall lxde
[18:12] <bazhang> inkjetunito, lubuntu-desktop for the lxde, ubuntu-server for the non gui one, or the mini install
[18:12] <tiky> how do i test that Pudge ?
[18:12] <inkjetunito> Pudge: so there's an otion for 'no desktop environment'?
[18:12] <tiky> /etc/acpi/local didn't exist, maybe this script is supposed to go in /etc/acpi/events?
[18:13] <bazhang> !nox | inkjetunito
[18:13] <inkjetunito> bazhang: thanks!
[18:13] <Pudge> tiky: all the events are in /etc/acpi/events/
[18:14] <tiky> how do i monitor what event is sent?
[18:14] <tiky> if any
[18:15] <Pudge> tiky: normally its done, read your /etc/acpi/lid.sh file
[18:16] <Pudge> tiky: u can simplely modify it for runing pm-suspend after lip close
[18:16] <Pudge> tiky: or u can edit the /etc/apci/local/lid.sh.post file
[18:17] <tiky> lid.sh.post or lid.post.sh?
[18:17] <Pudge> tiky: it depends on ur own system
[18:17] <k1l_> !minimal | inkjetunito
[18:17] <Pudge> tiky: for me , its lid.sh.pre or lid.sh.post
[18:17] <inkjetunito> k1l_: ty
[18:18] <tiky> huh interesting
[18:18] <tiky> i see the problem now
[18:18] <Pudge> tiky: look at which file is used in lid.sh
[18:19] <tiky> phew ok
[18:19] <justinfrontThink> Hi when installing OpenArtist a linux version based ubuntu it seems to not ask me for my user name and password so I can never use sudo on terminal. On first setup it only asks me for keyboard and language.   I don't have a webcam could this be related?  Is this issue common on Ubuntu virtual box installations or is it just an OpenArtist issue?
[18:19] <tiky> i just had to add pm-suspend in /etc/acpi/lid.sh, right after "getXUser" but before "if [ x"$XAUTHORITY" != x"" ]; then
[18:19] <tiky> because i guess the latter wasn't firing off
[18:19] <justinfrontThink> It auto sets me up with username "hero"
[18:19] <johnrb> I need to run a service when the system starts, its a WEBGUI RAID Managment program, i have tried several different ways all with no luck. It needs to be run as root "sudo hptsvr" is the command. Anyone have any suggestions?
[18:20] <tiky> so in the last hour i got nvidia working, 3d working, and now suspend working...
[18:20] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: this is not an ubuntu issue
[18:20] <genii> justinfrontThink: #openartist for support
[18:20] <Pudge> tiky: u can, but for a more clean way, add pm-suspend at the end of the script,
[18:20] <tiky> doesn't the script handle both open and close events tho?
[18:21] <justinfrontThink> Ok how do I get round it, I think I had the same problem with mint... I think it maybe ubuntu issue.
[18:21] <Pudge> tiky: as the system have to finish the script, then go suspend, to avoid unespected problem
[18:21] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: mint is no ubuntu issue, too. see the mint support for that
[18:21] <tiky> wait so what does grep -q closed /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state look for?
[18:21] <tiky> because there's a big if clause, i guess depemnding on the output of that
[18:22] <justinfrontThink> ok so if I try ubuntu and it is still broken I can come back here and get some help?
[18:22] <tiky> and the else clause of that seems to be turning lights on and deactivating xscreensaver
[18:22] <Pudge> tiky: its ok, its ur power button who wakes up ur system
[18:22] <Pudge> tiky: not the lip
[18:22] <tiky> are you sure?
[18:22] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: i know that is not broken on ubuntu. it is something that the spinoffs broke
[18:23] <Pudge> tiky: 90% :)
[18:23] <tiky> just being cautious
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> justinfrontThink, I suspect all the apps in that OS might be in the ubuntu repos if so you could install ubuntu use them and have support here, the ubuntu forums supports all linux and MS and apple.
[18:23] <freddo> everytime i use ubuntu it turns to poo
[18:23] <Pudge> tiky: just have a try, it wont destroy ur system,
[18:24] <Pudge> tiky: u can't be sure for everything, try to be the first one
[18:24] <justinfrontThink> I have to admit that the ubuntu brown and large icons on the left and some other things put me off ubuntu is there a ubuntu version that is not orange brown with huge icons?
[18:24] <tiky> lol dude, now it won't wake up
[18:24] <tiky> i told u
[18:24] <devin> Hey, how's it going?
[18:24] <Pudge> tiky: push the power button
[18:24] <tiky> well sorta, it does a "double take"
[18:24] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: orange brown is no longer the standard color theme
[18:25] <ffio_> i want to start ubuntu packaging from where i should start ?
[18:25] <ffio_> any source or link ?
[18:25] <justinfrontThink> and the huge icons?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> justinfrontThink, That OS you have appears to be using the fallback desktop, said xfce I believe, but there is kubuntu,xubuntu,lubuntu and about 50 other linux DE.
[18:25] <Pici> ffio_: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[18:25] <tiky> even when i do the power button it does the double take
[18:25] <tiky> eh it worked better before
[18:25] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: just load an actual release and see it yourself. tastes are different
[18:26] <ffio_> Pici: thanks :)
[18:26] <Pudge> tiky: what do u mean "double take"?
[18:26] <basant> Does anyone have  any idea why my printer will sometimes print correctly and sometimes cycle through paper printing hieroglyphics ?  ubuntu guest on win 7 host and brother hl 2770dw printer
[18:26] <DONKEEZ> my speaker quit working but headphones still do!
[18:27] <ffio_> Pici: i can experiment in my current ubuntu installation or i should do it in a vm ?
[18:27] <Pici> ffio_: The instructions should mention something about using pbuilder, which builds the packages in a chroot environment so they don't directly impact your machine.
[18:28] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[18:28] <azerus> has anyone experienced this before?
[18:28] <ffio_> Pici: ok :)
[18:30] <ffio_> Pici: are there any pre-requisites before starting ?
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> basant, Have you stopped any printing while its waiting or in the middle of printing?
[18:31] <uyghurix> ئەسسالامۇ ئەلەيكۇم.
[18:31] <Pici> ffio_: The page I linked should have all the prereqs listed
[18:32] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: are you still having sound issue?
[18:32] <DJones> !arabic | uyghurix
[18:32] <basant> wilee-nilee, I restart the printer then 1 or 2 print goes through fine and then on the third command it cycles through all the paper in the tray ( ruining some of them ) and then starts blinking. I then switch it off and on.  The only change I have made is that I give paper of half length but same width
[18:33] <DONKEEZ> msbrown - yes, still sound issues
[18:33] <ffio_> Pici: ok :)
[18:34] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: headphones work, speakers not. laptop or desktop?
[18:34] <DONKEEZ> msbrown - laptop
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> basant, Can't be sure what the problem is, however I have found that in general both windows and ubuntu are sensitive to shutdowns of printing processes or deleting them, then requiring a logout or reboot to clear them, thats just my experience not necessarily evryones.
[18:35] <basant> wilee-nilee, I am thinking perhaps it is a better option to write the file to be printed in a shared folder and let the guest win7 to print and then delete any new file in the folder
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> basant, THat was my first thoughy
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> thought*
[18:35] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: can you bring up a term window, and enter the command (no quotes) 'alsamixer'?
[18:35] <basant> but would you know of any program ( for free) that would do this for me from win 7
[18:36] <shine_> What's the deal with the ubuntu thunderbird ppa? I enter "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable" and I get "Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection." My internet connection is fine - I'm talking to you all on here aren't I?
[18:37] <DONKEEZ> mbrown - ok
[18:37] <shine_> btw: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mozilla_team_thunderbird_stable <- is where I got the commands to run
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> shine_, Two things PPA's are not supported here, and have you made sure it supports your release.
[18:39] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: ok, assuming you have it running. are any of the outputs <master>, <line> etc. showing muted (mm) or zero level (00)?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> shine_, What is the release you are running?
[18:39] <newp> so far so good guys, thanks for the help.  I just finished disabling fastbook n' stuff & Windows is shutting down (configuring windows features).  I'll let you know if it lets me install ubuntu.
[18:39] <shine_> wilee-nilee: Well, idk, I'm running Kali. Can't find any info specific for Kali on the web and their irc channel is basically non-existant. What do I do to get t-bird installed?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> shine_, kali is not supported here.
[18:39] <newp> thanks for the quick help guys, I called Asus & they were no help & searched the internet for hours last night to know avail.
[18:40] <shine_> so?
[18:40] <grmcrkrs> goto #kali-linux
[18:40] <shine_> Good god, I get so tired
[18:40] <DONKEEZ> mbrown - none muted
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> shine_, Just saying this is ubuntu support only, not our decision. ;)
[18:40] <DarkAngle> Hello guys, can anyone suggest some (preferable up-to-dated) reading material about setting up custom mail server on ubuntu ?
[18:41] <inkjetunito> newp: what's the problem exactly?
[18:41] <shine_> grmcrkrs: oh shoot, there is a kali channel! thx man
[18:41] <grmcrkrs> np
[18:42] <basant> wilee-nilee, a question. Assuming I have a program on host win 7 that monitors a folder and prints any file that appears and my guest ( ubuntu) generates and puts that file in the folder what will happen if a these things deadlock ?
[18:43] <newp> inkjet:  I was having trouble installing Ubuntu on a new Asus F75V Notebook that came w/ Windows 8.  whenever I booted off the bootable USB drive it gave me the black screen w/ the three options: "Try Ubuntu before installing, Install Ubuntu or Check disk for defects".  no matter which option I picked it would go to a black screen & hang.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> basant, Do you mean some sort of autoprint as it hits a folder?
[18:43] <inkjetunito> newp: have you disabled secure boot?
[18:43] <newp> folks explained it may have to do w/ the UFEI settings.
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | newp
[18:44] <newp> I did just now.  tho it was called "FastBoot" in BIOs & in Windows "Fast Startup"
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> newp, May just be a graphic driver thang check the bots link.
[18:44] <newp> is Secure Boot something different?
[18:44] <inkjetunito> newp: no. fastboot is another thing
[18:44] <newp> where can I disable secureboot?
[18:45] <inkjetunito> newp: in system setup (bios or whatever)
[18:45] <newp> ok, thanks ink
[18:45] <inkjetunito> newp: iirc it's under the 'boot' tab. just did that on an asus today
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you seen the uefi wiki, here is another link in general, but check the nomodeset as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[18:45] <elisa87> I installed python2.7 by sudo apt-get install but when I write which python it says 2.6...how can I update it?
[18:45] <rigid> ahoy
[18:46] <Falcon82> how do i defrag
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Falcon82, You don't have to in linux
[18:46] <Falcon82> cool
[18:46] <k1l_> Falcon82: not needed on ubuntus filesystems
[18:46] <newp> wilee: yes I've seen the UEFI page
[18:46] <basant> wilee-nilee, yep that would the way to go no ?
[18:46] <k1l_> …
[18:46] <rigid> well, you do have to defrag fat i guess :)
[18:46] <basant> autoprint I mean
[18:46] <rigid> is there an ubuntu developer channel? i have a question on dpkg-buildpackage & lintian
[18:47] <Pici> rigid: theres #ubuntu-packaging, which would be a good place to get started
[18:47] <rigid> Pici: perfect, thank you
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> basant, Not familiar with any auto printing sounds glorious in general, but personally I would want a print of a copy making sure the original wa still safe, I write grad papers that take months to write is my relevance.
[18:48] <newp> wilee & inkjet: going to try these other tips if what I was told before & did already doesn't work.  I'll let you know my results.  thank you for your time & help.
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> newp, Cool good luck, also to can tab complete nicks here so they are correct and we are notified your speaking to us. ;)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> basant, You might check in ##windows on auto printing options in general is all.
[18:51] <newp> YES!
[18:51] <newp> I turned of secure boot & it didn't hang
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> cool
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you made an unallocated space for ubuntu by resizing W8 from its disk manager?
[18:52] <newp> thank you both (inkjet & wilee) SO much.  this has been giving me a headache for the last 2 days
[18:52] <newp> yeah, I'm not that green :P
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> newp, Cool just making sure, you know we care. ;)
[18:54] <newp> I can tell.. you guys actually help unlike most big name company's tech support.
[18:54] <newp> that's what I love about Ubuntu/linux.
[18:55] <newp> not that I run in to many problems at all once it's installed.  at least none that I can't quickly fix myself
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> newp, One thing I do since I have multiple external HD's is clone everything to get back to work if there is a problem without messing around, ands have everything backed up.
[18:58] <thepeopleschamp_> hi
[18:58] <thepeopleschamp_> funny question
[18:58] <thepeopleschamp_> does anyone know where i can get a laptop cover like those ones apple sell, covering side on the keyboard and behind the screen?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> thepeopleschamp_, Not a ubuntu support question, I would look on amazon....etc
[19:00] <Pici> thepeopleschamp_: Thats not really on-topic for #ubuntu.  Maybe ##hardware has a better idea though
[19:09] <elisa87> seriously how i can update to Python 2.7 from Python 2.6?
[19:12] <ezra-s> elisa87, python in ubuntu 13.04 is version 2.7
[19:12] <racho> so i tried installing ubuntu 13.04 over an old install of fedora but apparently the lvm partitions of fedora really messed up the whole thing. now i vgreduced the group but pvremove can't remove the actual physical partition? any idea?
[19:12] <ffio_> Pici: is ubuntu packaging a time consuming this to learn ?
[19:12] <Pici> elisa87: I don't think theres an entry for python in the alternatives system, so you would have to repoint the /usr/bin/python symlink to your python2.7 binary.
[19:12] <ffio_> thing*
[19:13] <Pici> ffio_: It can be, depending on how complicated your packages are.  I've re-learned it a few times in order to build updated packages for myself.
[19:13] <elisa87> Pici:  how i should to that sym link? do you have the command?
[19:13] <ffio_> Pici: ok :)
[19:13] <niel> ok I just setup FTP on an old laptop and when I connect to it I cant actually change files I can only download
[19:14] <niel> anyone know how to allow read and write?
[19:14] <Pici> elisa87: keep in mind that this *might* break things. You may be better off either specifically calling python2.7 by name or changing the shebangs in your python2.7 specific files to the python2.7 binary.
[19:14] <niel> iven been stuck for hours
[19:15] <niel> using vsftpd
[19:15] <racho> elisa87: better complie from source in $HOME/bin or /opt and the export PYTHON_PATH to that install in your .bashrc
[19:16] <zpierce> I have a fresh Ubuntu 13.04 and am having problems with the launcher.  Nothing that isn't already pinned to the launcher shows up on the launcher, so I can't pin new things.  Also Alt-Tab does not show any applications open that are not pinned on the launcher.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> zpierce, You using the fallback de, what desktop?
[19:16] <thepeopleschamp_> anyone know where i can get something like this for a hp 15 inch laptop?
[19:17] <thepeopleschamp_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-2012-MD102CH-A-MacBook-Pro-13-A1278-Laptop-Solid-Hard-Case-Keyboard-Cover-P-/190731903925?pt=US_Laptop_Cases_Bags&hash=item2c6881e3b5
[19:17] <newp> things are coming along nicely :)
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !ot | thepeopleschamp_
[19:17] <zpierce> Not sure what fallback de is.  Like I said, this is a fresh install.  Only things I've added is OpenJava jdk and Eclipse
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> thepeopleschamp_, YOU have already been told this is offtopic go to the links suggeted.
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> suggested
[19:18] <thepeopleschamp_> sorry
[19:18] <niel> so can anyone help?
[19:18] <niel> I really need it
[19:18] <modder24> Is intended that linux ubuntu 12.04 isn´t shwoing files that start with a 'dot' ? I was messing around with eclpise and ubuntu isn´t showing the .workspace , but i can go in it with the terminal
[19:19] <heath> eww: http://i.imgur.com/3qN5D1K.png
[19:19] <DJones> modder24: Thats right, files starting with a . are hidden files
[19:20] <modder24> is there a way to unhide it ? its in my ubuntu one cloud because i sync with my windows pc and i can´t connect using eclipse to it
[19:20] <bcessa> hi, just put on github an automatic builder for DEB packages of MongoDB with full SSL directly compiling from the official source repo, is far from perfect but hopefully someone can find it useful, any contributions are deeply appreciated https://github.com/bcessa/mongodb-ssl
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> bcessa, That is considered spam here. ;)
[19:21] <bcessa> wo, sorry, didn't knew
[19:22] <bcessa> never mind checking it then ;)
[19:22] <nasir> i need help using squid to filter the web
[19:22] <DJones> modder24: Using a terminal you can do "ls -a" which will show hidden files/folders
[19:22] <zpierce> So, anyone know why my applications don't show up on the launcher, and can't be alt-tab'd to?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> bcessa, Just a should know info, I would think the irc is that way in general, except in specific circumstances.
[19:23] <modder24> but i have to use a GUI  to let it open and i cant use a terminal to open
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> modder24, ctrl-h
[19:23] <msbrown> modder24: in the File browser tool, the view selection (next to the Gear button) will let you set "show hidden files"
[19:24] <DJones> modder24: From memory, if you're using nautilus ctrl-h will show/hide hidden files
[19:24] <bcessa> wilee-nilee: thnx man, appreciate the info, just wanted to let know in case someone was also looking for such a thing
[19:27] <modder24> thanks now it works
[19:30] <vedrit> I have a couple problems: First, I'm trying to install my NVidia drivers through the Additional Drivers application, but it fails and I get pastebin.com/ZL8m4RM8
[19:30] <vedrit> That's the log given
[19:32] <vedrit> Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
[19:34] <bekks> vedrit: Which Ubuntu do you have exactly?
[19:34] <vedrit> 12.04.2 Server
[19:34] <genii> vedrit: "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[19:35] <reisio> vedrit: what does dpkg -L nvidia-304 say?
[19:36] <vedrit> says not installed
[19:36] <reisio> can you install it?
[19:36] <vedrit> But when I do the same for 319 (Which is newer) I get a list of directories
[19:36] <reisio> okay
[19:37] <reisio> vedrit: can you select 319 from the GUI thing?
[19:38] <vedrit> From the Additional Drivers window? It gives an error that installation of the driver failed, and to look at the log (Which has been linked via pastebin)
[19:38] <simgerico> !list
[19:41] <vedrit> genii: I'm a newb to Ubuntu. What applications would be using dpkg? I had just restarted
[19:42] <msbrown> vedrit: perhaps the software updater is running
[19:42] <DrDamnit> How do I get an entire gnome-session using ssh forwarding? (I can get individual applications, but not the whole desktop)
[19:42] <DrDamnit> vedrit: anything that was being installed will generally be using dpkg.
[19:43] <simgerico> http://xdcc.it/devilirc
[19:43] <vedrit> but nothing was being installed, as far as I'm aware. Like I said, I had just restarted
[19:43] <genii> vedrit: Probably the automatic updates was running at the same time when you were trying to install the nvidia driver. Apologies for lag, but I'm working and back and forth from computer. Just that i noticed that error on line 488 of your paste.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> DrDamnit  with gnome2, I did it by running gnome-panel and nautilus remotely, try soemthing similar with gnome3  (i have no remote pc anymore, cannot test it)
[19:52] <matthias_android> I've got an ltsp server, how can i set default wallpaper for my fat clients?
[19:53] <Prock81> is there anyway to make cp  NOT be case sensitive to file paths and file names?
[19:53] <bekks> Prock81: No.
[19:56] <reisio> Prock81: not any way worth pursuing
[19:56] <reisio> for better or worse, A is not a
[19:56] <natefinch> I'm trying to follow this workaround to fix my wireless card: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66810/very-slow-connection-on-an-intelr-wifi-link-5100-agn  but I get FATAL: Module iwlagn not found.  Sounds like I might have a different driver or something?
[19:56] <reisio> we have cases in our text, it can't be undone
[19:56] <Prock81> ok how can i change all capital letters in a  script to lower case... the whole file
[19:57] <reisio> Prock81: cat file | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z' > newfile
[19:57] <Prock81> what does the tr do
[19:57] <bekks> Prock81: It translates characters.
[19:57] <reisio> Prock81: pretty much just that
[19:58] <reisio> although you can make it do a couple subtle variations
[19:58] <Prock81> so the above will take all caps to lowercase?
[19:59] <Monotoko> is there a ubuntu package for unrealircd, or do I need to compile it?
[19:59] <bekks> Prock81: No, it converts all lowercase to uppercase.
[19:59] <kostkon> !find unrealircd
[19:59] <reisio> Monotoko: inspircd is better :)
[19:59] <reisio> Prock81: sorry just the opposite
[20:00] <reisio> Prock81: cat file | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' > newfile
[20:00] <reisio> :)
[20:00] <Prock81> thanks cat file | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' > newfile
[20:00] <reisio> you could also do tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' < original > new
[20:00] <reisio> but that's a little nonlinear for my tastes
[20:00] <tjj> Is there a channel or website where I can ask questions about open source licenses?
[20:01] <reisio> Prock81: whichever is first is from, second is to
[20:01] <Prock81> ?nonlinear
[20:01] <reisio> liney
[20:01] <reisio> a - b - c, vs b - a -c :p
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> tjj  the open source lince is called GPL, general public licence
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> licence*
[20:02] <tjj> MonkeyDust: I'm trying to understand the differences between the licenses here http://opensource.org/licenses
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> tjj  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_licenses#Open-source.2Ffree_software_licenses -- now kindly continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <tjj> MonkeyDust: Thanks!
[20:07] <fourqq> fcsk  has been running for 13 hours now..ugh
[20:08] <vedrit> Whats the process name for the server's full desktop manager?
[20:08] <jibreel> vmware service seems to start on startup, how could one go about disabling that? and is it safe to do ?
[20:09] <k1l_> vedrit: what? servers desktop manager?
[20:10] <vedrit> k1l_: A walkthrough video for installing NVidia drivers, the person ends the process "lightdm" which, as I understand it, is one of the desktop managers. But I didn't install lightdm
[20:10] <k1l_> vedrit: i would not rely my server configuration on a YT video.
[20:11] <k1l_> vedrit: is this a server or is this a desktop?
[20:11] <vedrit> k1l_: Server. I've tried installing the drivers through the Additional Drivers, but it keeps failing
[20:11] <k1l_> why do you need nvidia drivers on a server?
[20:12] <vedrit> Does it hurt anything to have them?
[20:12] <bekks> What do you need them for?
[20:12] <k1l_> in most cases its no needed. so that is why i ask.
[20:12] <k1l_> *not
[20:12] <vedrit> I'm of the "just in case" mindset
[20:13] <bekks> vedrit: Without a graphical environment, you cant even use them.
[20:13] <vedrit> being completely new to Linux and Ubuntu, I want to make sure everything has what it needs
[20:13] <reisio> they actually could come in handy for media processing
[20:13] <reisio> or y'know, bitcoin nonsense
[20:13] <reisio> other not-naturally-done-by-gpu things
[20:13] <vedrit> bekks: I am running a graphical environment
[20:13] <Nach0z> bitcoinz woo
[20:13] <newhite_> I'm glad I'm not the only one brand new to Ubuntu
[20:14] <bekks> vedrit: Well, then why dont you use the 12.04 desktop?
[20:14] <k1l_> vedrit: a desktop just needs resources that are would be free for the server tasks. so most servers dont run a desktop
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> newhite_  we have new enthousiasts every day
[20:14] <reisio> I'd probably be happy with nouveau over hear, but I'm pretty sure the vdpau support for the binary driver is far superior
[20:14] <reisio> over here*
[20:14] <vedrit> I run it with a desktop because I have no idea what in the world I'm doing otherwise
[20:14] <k1l_> vedrit: but if you want to run a desktop (which i dont recommend on a server) then you can install the drivers
[20:14] <newhite_> Monkeydust thanks!
[20:15] <jhutchins> vedrit: learn.
[20:15] <vedrit> jhutchins: sage advice. Thanks. Note the sarcasm
[20:15] <jhutchins> vedrit: Running a GUI on a desktop introduces vulnerabilities, particularly to user error.
[20:15] <newhite_> my first question is when hit ctr + alt + F2, it seems to be a task manger of sorts.  How do you leave that application?
[20:16] <vedrit> yeah, cause there wouldn't be any user error when entering commands that I don't understand
[20:16] <jhutchins> vedrit: It also restricts usage and options to something someone else has thought of for you.
[20:16] <bekks> newhite_: Thats no task manager, but the second virtual termina.
[20:16] <bekks> *terminal
[20:16] <genii> newhite_: ctrl-alt-f7
[20:16] <jhutchins> vedrit: The advantage of entering incorrect commands is that the most likely outcome is nothing.
[20:16] <k1l_> vedrit: everyone started as a beginner. just read about every command you want to activate
[20:17] <newhite_> Thanks, I guess I didn't go far enough down the function keys to find that out myself
[20:17] <vedrit> jhutchins: unless it's about putting things in wrong directories, making them either completely unusable or giving me more work down the road for anything that might require whatever I put in said directory
[20:18] <bekks> vedrit: You can even read about what specific directories are for.
[20:18] <k1l_> vedrit: how do you want to learn how to use a server if you will never use a server?
[20:18] <vedrit> What about stuff that doesn't have a directory
[20:18] <bekks> vedrit: There is no such stuff.
[20:19] <daftykins> then you can learn how no distribution agrees where to put things ¬_¬
[20:19] <vedrit> You're kidding, right? There's a whole slew of services that create their own directory or get placed somewhere
[20:19] <vedrit> Besides, I don't even know how to get rid of the desktop environment at this point
[20:19] <bekks> vedrit: I am not kidding. Everythin is placed in some directory.
[20:20] <vedrit> short of re-installing the whole system which I would really like to avoid, considering how much trouble I had getting it to work
[20:20] <bekks> vedrit: You can just uninstall it, if you like.
[20:20] <vedrit> How?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> vedrit  in linux, everything is a file, files sit in directories
[20:20] <bekks> vedrit: using apt-get
[20:20] <vedrit> but I don't know what it's called
[20:21] <k1l_> vedrit: then learn about it while you are reading documentation and wiki pages
[20:21] <k1l_> vedrit: again: no one started as a professional. but you need to start learning at some point
[20:21] <jhutchins> vedrit: The problems you list are much more likely if you use a gui to manage the server.
[20:22] <Pudge> vedrit: sudo rm -rf / , then u will have the totally peaceful world
[20:22] <jhutchins> vedrit: Ctrl-Alt-F1 and there you are, a console.  Or open an xterm.  Or ssh to the server.
[20:22] <vedrit> If problems are fixable, then I can deal with it. At least with GUI I can actually -see- what I'm doing
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> Pudge  silly joke, vedrit ignore that
[20:22] <jhutchins> vedrit: You can keep the GUI around as a crutch while you learn, but when you're ready to let go, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:22] <k1l_> !danger
[20:23] <jhutchins> k1l_: Really?
[20:23] <zykotick9> Pudge: your remove command is dumb to suggest - but it won't actually work either, the kernel tries to protect / these days.
[20:23] <daftykins> don't forkbomb yourself either :(
[20:23] <vedrit> Thank you jhutchins, that's more like what I would like to know. If ever I want to remove it, gdm is what I need to know
[20:23] <jhutchins> k1l_: Ah, different reference.
[20:23] <orzo88> Hi everyone
[20:23] <bekks> vedrit: gdm is the display manager, not your graphical environment.
[20:23] <jhutchins> k1l_: On which note he seems to have left.  Good riddance.
[20:24] <orzo88> Is anybody else having problems with the new gnome update in 13.4?
[20:24] <k1l_> jhutchins: not talking about your command. but the rm command
[20:24] <jhutchins> k1l_: Saw that.   He's been giving bad advice most of the day.
[20:24] <orzo88> I can see my desktop, but gnome isnt loading anymore
[20:25] <jhutchins> orzo88: Great, you're making progress then!
[20:25] <vedrit> bekks: If gdm is the display manager, then whats the graphical environment?
[20:25] <jhutchins> orzo88: Or was gnome the actual goal?
[20:25] <orzo88> So its a big problem for everyone then?
[20:25] <orzo88> I just did a system update and now gnome wont load at all
[20:25] <jhutchins> orzo88: Sorry, being sarcastic about gnome.  Which release?
[20:26] <bekks> vedrit: Unity, XFCE, KDE, LXDE, Gnome, etc.
[20:26] <bekks> vedrit: And those are not package names.
[20:26] <orzo88> I dont know, im new to Linux, i just used the default system update
[20:26] <orzo88> Whichever is default in 13.4
[20:26] <jhutchins> vedrit: gdm is from gnome, but it can load pretty much any desktop.
[20:27] <vedrit> bekks: Is is possible to find out which environment package I installed, then remove it (At a future date) ?
[20:27] <orzo88> After the system update today I can see the folders on my desktop but no side or top bar
[20:27] <k1l_> vedrit: see in /var/log/apt what you did install
[20:27] <jhutchins> orzo88: So, probably gnome but not the taskbar or the panel.
[20:27] <orzo88> I cant even launch the terminal, is there a keyboard shortcut?
[20:28] <Slugze> ctrl +alt +t
[20:28] <jhutchins> orzo88: Does alt-f2 work in gnome?
[20:28] <bekks> vedrit: Yes.
[20:28] <orzo88> There we go, thanks. I have the terminal now
[20:28] <newhite_> I'm attempting to find the location an application is installed at
[20:28] <newhite_> how do I find it?
[20:28] <jhutchins> vedrit: Harsh as we may have been, I don't suggest you go cold turkey, just make command line literacy your goal.
[20:29] <orzo88> What should I type to see what i just installed in
[20:29] <jhutchins> newhite_: dpkg -L package
[20:29] <orzo88>  The update
[20:29] <vedrit> I mainly want to know how to remove the environment for future knowledge, for when I am ready to go full command line
[20:29] <jhutchins> orzo88: I think you can find a log in /var/log - not sure which one, should be obvious.
[20:29] <newhite_> I updated the repository by adding a deb  file.  Then I used sudo apt-get update
[20:29] <newhite_> ok I'll look in the log
[20:29] <orzo88> What do I type to show that?
[20:30] <orzo88> Sorry, im a total unix scrub
[20:30] <newhite_> jhutchins thanks, I'll try that first
[20:30] <jhutchins> vedrit: If you turn off gdm, and tell it not to start by default, you don't really need to remove it, but ...
[20:30] <jhutchins> !remove gnome
[20:30] <DrDamnit> How do I connect to Ubuntu 12.04.x LTS over ssh with X11 forwarding? I just realized I've been trying to use gnome-session... but 12.04 uses Unity not gnome.
[20:30] <jhutchins> Dang, this is what I get for lurking in multiple channels, I forget which bot knows what.
[20:30] <jhutchins> ubottu: remove gnome?
[20:30] <vedrit> I see install commands for both gdm and ubuntu-desktop. Are they seperate, or is ubuntu-desktop reliant on gdm?
[20:30] <crypticmofo> guys
[20:31] <crypticmofo> how do i get a shell / terminal at the ubuntu installer ?
[20:31] <daftykins> DrDamnit: ssh -X ?
[20:31] <jhutchins> vedrit: SLightly outdated, but generally true:  To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2.  Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
[20:32] <DrDamnit> daftykins: yes. ssh -X works. I log in, and get a prompt. On previous versions of Ubuntu, you just typed gnome-session, and you could get the whole desktop. With Unity, gnome-session just gives a black screen. Presumably, because it uses Unity instead of gnome.
[20:32] <vedrit> whats the difference between purge and remove?
[20:32] <reisio> crypticmofo: CTRL+ALT+t, probs
[20:32] <crypticmofo> anyone ?
[20:32] <daftykins> DrDamnit: oh, i have no idea why you'd want to do that
[20:32] <reisio> crypticmofo: or hit the ubuntu icon at top left and type 'terminal'
[20:32] <crypticmofo> reisio:  im at the intaller
[20:33] <k1l_> crypticmofo: ctrl-alt-f1 or f2
[20:33] <DrDamnit> daftykins - let's assume I want to. How do I make it work?
[20:33] <daftykins> sorry, no idea
[20:33] <reisio> crypticmofo: ah
[20:33] <k1l_> crypticmofo: come back with f7
[20:33] <xkernel> Rythmbox is not playing some many mp3's
[20:33] <vedrit> Oh, I see
[20:33] <orzo88> Is there any way to roll back the update I just installed?
[20:33] <reisio> crypticmofo: you can probably kill the installer from what k1l_ said as well
[20:33] <racho> how is fglrx support with ATI RV730/M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650/5165]? haven't been to ubuntu since 10.10 so i wonder if the prop drivers will work with this?
[20:34] <vedrit> I'd probably purge them
[20:34] <orzo88> It broke my desktop
[20:34] <k1l_> reisio: that depends on what commands you start in that tty.
[20:34] <jhutchins> orzo88: Have you tried restarting?  aptitude -f install?
[20:34] <k1l_> he didnt tell if he is in a live system
[20:34] <orzo88> Ill try that now
[20:35] <MrElg> Hi folks, I have a problem with an installation today regarding the wifi connection. It simply does not detect wifi. I have checked the ip link stats, and the wlan0 is not listed there. It works however in the live session of the installer. Any help is appreciated
[20:35] <orzo88> Aptitude isnt jnstalles
[20:35] <orzo88> Installed*
[20:35] <k1l_> use apt-get instead of aptitude
[20:35] <jhutchins> orzo88: apt-get -f install might work.
[20:35] <reisio> k1l_: hrmm?
[20:36] <k1l_> reisio: switching to a tty doesnt kill the xserver or the installer
[20:36] <orzo88> -f isnt a valid option it says
[20:36] <reisio> no I just meant he could probably kill the process of the installer, manually :)
[20:36] <reisio> if he so desired
[20:36] <k1l_> orzo88: please pastebin the whole output
[20:37] <orzo88> I cant, im on my phone irc client because I cant get to any programs other than whats on my desktop and the terminal
[20:37] <subterfuge> GoogleFu has failed me (combined with lack of knowledge in this area)  After running updates sometimes my system reboots to a command line.  I run 'startx' which normally fires up without loading gnome-panel (and who knows what else)  I then  just Ctrl+Alt+T for a terminal and 'sudo reboot' which normally fixed it...  This time that doesn't I even loaded gnome-panel and used the GUI to reboot and shutdown.  --- What's
[20:37] <subterfuge> the fix?
[20:37] <Slugze> how can open multiple terminal using bash ( like xterm -hold -e ssh admin@remote "tail -f /var/log/file") but for multiple host?
[20:38] <orzo88> And I managed to insatll that -f thing, now what?
[20:38] <strap> hi, can someone help me with efibootmgr? it's not creating any boot sources.
[20:38] <k1l_> subterfuge: dont use startx. start the dm like sudo lightdm start/stop/restart
[20:38] <jhutchins> subterfuge: Meet orzo88. He has the same problem.
[20:38] <reisio> Slugze: clusterssh
[20:38] <orzo88> L
[20:38] <Jordan_U> !details | strap
[20:38] <subterfuge> k1l thanks
[20:39] <orzo88> All this happened after the normal update today
[20:39] <jhutchins> orzo88: restart.
[20:39] <orzo88> Alright, i am now
[20:39] <subterfuge> jhutchins: where is he with it?
[20:39] <k1l_> subterfuge: take a look into the logs in /home/nick/.xsession-errors and the /var/log/dmesg or syslog to know what the problem is
[20:39] <Slugze> reisio,  that's what i'm using right now, but as i'm occasionally doing that on a station where i don't have root rights and where i can't install it:)
[20:39] <subterfuge> k1l: ok I'll check
[20:40] <crypticmofo> thanks reisio .. i have a lpatop with fn keys so i had to ctrl+alt+fn +f2 f3 whatever
[20:40] <strap> when i run this command 'efibootmgr -c --disk /dev/sda --part 1' to create a new boot number, it doesn't create a new boot number
[20:40] <reisio> Slugze: for loop?
[20:40] <reisio> crypticmofo: that's cheating :p
[20:40] <bekks> Slugze: You can install it into your home.
[20:40] <orzo88> Still not fixed
[20:40] <strap> i'll try running it again with -v to see if i get any more info
[20:41] <Slugze> no for looking what's happening in real time  on multiple remote
[20:41] <xkernel> Rythmbox is not playing many mp3's , how can I debug to find the reason?
[20:41] <tozen> orzo88: was reading you messages and steel don't understand the ptroblem and what you've done? what the kind of ubuntu family do you use? what happened and where you not able to get?
[20:41] <orzo88> Is it possoble to roll back the update or repair the system if I use the boot disk?
[20:41] <reisio> Slugze: sorry I meant you could use a for loop :)
[20:41] <orzo88> Let me explain, im slow bc im typing on my phone
[20:42] <reisio> for a in foo bar baz; do xterm whatever @$a; done
[20:42] <Slugze> reisio,  kisses **
[20:42] <jhutchins> subterfuge: He did an apt-get (or aptitude) -f install - don't know yet that it worked, but that it did something suggests it was needed.
[20:42] <reisio> only you'd need like, nohup xterm blah > /dev/null
[20:42] <Jordan_U> strap: Why are you trying to add an entry manually? Why aren't you specifying a loader ( --loader)?
[20:42] <Slugze> (did not tought about that , pff ) thanks
[20:42] <orzo88> I use the default gnome in ubuntu 13.4. After I did the system update today I can see the folders directly on my desktop, but no gnome sidebar or top bar with the clock
[20:42] <jhutchins> subterfuge: No, didn't fix.
[20:43] <orzo88> If I click on a folder I can see my files, but its a bit like Windows when explorer crashes
[20:43] <orzo88> Thats the best a linux noob like me can explain it
[20:44] <jhutchins> orzo88: Those components have specific names, I just don't know what they are (I run kde/xfce).
[20:44] <reisio> orzo88: sounds like compiz/unity isn't running
[20:44] <orzo88> Is there a way to rollback the update?
[20:44] <reisio> alas I don't know their names, either
[20:44] <reisio> check ls /usr/bin/*unity* /usr/bin/*compiz*
[20:44] <daftykins> no, you wouldn't want to either
[20:45] <tozen> orzo88: sudo apt-get install dconf && dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[20:45] <reisio> you wouldn't want to at this point I dare say
[20:45] <Jordan_U> strap: Does that efibootmgr command print any error messages?
[20:45] <subterfuge> jhutchins: I am going to go try a few things ... I am having to work from the affected system so it will be a bit but I will update you all if I find a fix... also if you all beet me to it please hang around for 10 min or so and let me know what works
[20:45] <orzo88> Ill try that now tozen
[20:45] <jhutchins> orzo88: Can you get an xterm or Run Command box?
[20:45] <kostkon> orzo88, try resetting your unity: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:45] <strap> Jordan_U: because during installation it's not adding one automatically,  and because it slipped my mind. adding a loader still does nothing, though
[20:45] <strap> and no, no error messages.
[20:46] <jhutchins> orzo88: kostkon's suggestion looks good.
[20:46] <orzo88> Package dconf has no install canidate
[20:46] <kostkon> orzo88, you can get into tty, by pressing ctrl+alt+f4. you go back to the desktop with ctrl+alt+f7
[20:46] <phobiac> So... I've got a server I've been asked to update that is still on natty (11.04). I'd like to get it updated to the latest LTS release but natty is old enough that isn't supported anymore. What are my options for updating?
[20:46] <orzo88> Ill try kostkons thing now
[20:46] <tozen> jhutchins: unity in standart gnome?
[20:46] <zykotick9> !eolupdate | phobiac
[20:47] <zykotick9> !eolupgrade | phobiac
[20:47] <orzo88> And yes jhutchins i can run the terminal thru the keyboard shortcut
[20:47] <jhutchins> tozen: Not me, subterfuge & orzo88
[20:47] <phobiac> Aha! Thank you zykotick9.
[20:48] <tozen> jhutchins: orzo88 said hes got standart gnome in use not unity ;)
[20:48] <jhutchins> orzo88: Someone suggested running killall gnome-panel, or if that doesn't restart gnome, just run gnome-panel &
[20:48] <newhite_> How do you look at the log file ?
[20:49] <daftykins> which log file?
[20:50] <Slugze> newhite_,  cat or tail -f or less /var/log/logfilename -( say wyou want the system logfile , it would be /var/log/syslog .  To see about every log on ubuntu, it's ls -l /var/log
[20:50] <newhite_> Slugze thanks
[20:51] <Slugze> newhite_,  pay attention some soft place their log elsewhere , you'll have to check the soft conf to be sure
[20:52] <orzo88> Ok, so I did the stuff on that page
[20:52] <newhite_> Slugze my need is in reference to cassandra.  the system.log is located in /var/log/cassandra/
[20:52] <orzo88> And when I tried to restart unity
[20:52] <newhite_> Slugze I lucked out this time
[20:52] <orzo88> I get a whole bunch of fatal NULL errors
[20:52] <vedrit> Okay, I'm trying to get my second drive shared on my network, and while everything seems to be good on the server, I can't access it on any other computer, and the Ubuntu guide for Samaba isn't much help because I can't edit the smb.conf file
[20:53] <tozen> orzo88: just restart your pc
[20:53] <sleepyrussian> hi
[20:53] <newhite_> hello sleepyrussian
[20:53] <sleepyrussian> all the video editing software i downloaded are crappy and crash
[20:53] <orzo88> Restarting now
[20:53] <sleepyrussian> can you recoment a video editing software?
[20:53] <jackarg> hey, can ayone give me guiance: I want to install windows 8 on my ubuntu machine. I'd like a good tutorial. Also, I would like to install backtrack as well, will that make it even more difficult?
[20:54] <tozen> sleepyrussian: kak sam, brat?
[20:54] <sleepyrussian> tozen i am not russian
[20:54] <orzo88> still didnt work
[20:55] <tozen> sleepyotter: avidemux
[20:55] <orzo88> Whats weird is that at the login screen
[20:55] <orzo88> I can see the top bar with the clock
[20:55] <orzo88> But when I login it dissapears
[20:55] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not playing mp3  or adding them to the library, I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[20:56] <daftykins> jackarg: backtrack is dead, plus windows support is in ##windows
[20:56] <tozen> orzo88: well let me understand you. what do u use unity or gnome?
[20:56] <orzo88> I use the gnome thats default with 13.04
[20:56] <jackarg> daftykins what is the new backtrack? plus i think people here are capable of helping me, it's a question of grub and dual boot
[20:57] <daftykins> doubt they will though :)
[20:57] <tozen> orzo88:  without side launcher, is it right?
[20:57] <JN_> how to instal chrome for ubuntu 11.04 ?
[20:57] <bekks> JN_: 11.04 isnt supported anymore.
[20:57] <k1l> !eol | JN_
[20:57] <subterfuge> jhutchine   k1l : running "sudo lightdm' fired everything up just as it should have.  Where would I add that to included it in start up
[20:58] <orzo88> I usually have a bar on the left side of the screen thats sort of like a start menu and a top bar similar to whats in OSX
[20:58] <JN_> thx
[20:58] <duxb> I'm running a web site that's all perl .cgi scripts in /var/www/foo/cgi-bin, where they work fine. I'm trying to modify my apache config using Rewrite directives so that example.com/foo/bar directs to /var/www/foo/cgi-bin/bar.cgi
[20:58] <jhutchins> jackarg: Installing backtrack or whatever, see their support.  Usually you install Windows first, then Ubuntu, the Ubuntu installer handles that.  If you want to install WIndows second, you're pretty much on your own as Microsoft doesn't support it.
[20:58] <duxb> and nothing is working
[20:58] <duxb> any help?
[20:58] <tozen> orzo88:  so thats means you have unity in use. ok
[20:59] <orzo88> Well, normally anyway I guess
[20:59] <jhutchins> jackarg: You can try creating an ntfs partition and seeing if Windows will see that and install to it, but windows' only option might be to wipe out your ubuntu.
[20:59] <tozen> orzo88: did you tried unity --replace
[20:59] <tozen> ??
[20:59] <k1l> !backtrack | jackarg
[20:59] <Toph2> JN_,,, Ubuntu Software Center
[20:59] <orzo88> Yes, i get a bunch of text that ends with "segmentation fault"
[21:00] <k1l> Toph2: not for 11.04 anymore
[21:00] <sleepyotter> is there a channel for discussing ivdeo making in linux?
[21:00] <tozen> orzo88: and there in no changes?
[21:00] <orzo88> None
[21:00] <tozen> after rebooting
[21:00] <Toph2> k1l,,, i see
[21:01] <orzo88> I cant eve drag the terminal window around, it glitches out to hell and slows if I try
[21:01] <jackarg> I'm trying to do this so that wow can run faster and smoother on my relatively low power pc. any other options?
[21:01] <Slugze> buy a new pc?
[21:01] <daftykins> jackarg: dualbooting tends to be best done by having Windows on first
[21:01] <orzo88> Not even after rebooting
[21:02] <subterfuge> k1l: running sudo lightdm worked for me, how would I make that run on boot everytime?
[21:02] <k1l> jackarg: i dont see any ubuntu related question in this windows and backtrack szenario. please see their supports for further guideance
[21:02] <tozen> well what else we can try is manially remove compiz config file using rm -rf ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig/*
[21:03] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not playing mp3  or adding them to the library, I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[21:03] <orzo88> Ill try that now
[21:03] <k1l> subterfuge: lightdm (or gdm or kdm or or or) should be run automatically. see the logs what happens at the startup
[21:03] <duxb> orzo88: in case you didn't know, you can always get to a terminal by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 ( or F2-F6 ). Hitting Ctrl+Alt+F7 will bring you back to the GUI
[21:03] <reisio> did you determine if unity/compiz is even running yet?
[21:03] <jackarg> k1l I have ubuntu and I want to install windows in dual boot that's all
[21:04] <orzo88> I can open the terminal with the keyboard shortcut
[21:04] <orzo88> And tozen, i did that, now what?
[21:04] <tozen> orzo88: logout -->>login
[21:04] <jackarg> daftykins it was extremely hard to dual boot with windows 8 and I failed
[21:04] <duxb> anybody have any experience with mod_rewrite in apache?
[21:04] <reisio> duxb: #httpd
[21:05] <orzo88> Is there a keyboard shortcut for logging out?
[21:05] <orzo88> Or command
[21:05] <duxb> reisio: thanks, I was looking for #apache, and it had one person in it
[21:05] <jhutchins> orzo88: CTRL-ALT-Delete sometimes works.
[21:05] <strap> Jordan_U: sorry, I was rebooting to confirm that I can't change anything
[21:06] <Jordan_U> jackarg: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a".
[21:06] <jhutchins> orzo88: Ctrl-D in a terminal/console
[21:06] <orzo88> Did that and logged back in, no change
[21:06] <Jordan_U> strap: Is your EFI System Partition mounted at /boot/efi/?
[21:06] <daftykins> jackarg: so you're hoping putting 8 on after ubuntu will be easier?
[21:06] <jhutchins> orzo88: What did you want a logout command/shortcut for?  Console?
[21:07] <tozen> orzo88: well let me think but im not sure i have some ideas more pal...
[21:07] <bazhang> duxb, its #httpd
[21:07] <orzo88> Would it be possible to install and switch to a different desktop enviro from the terminal?
[21:07] <subterfuge> k1l: if I past bin the output of .xsession-errors would you be able to take a look.  It is a little over my head at this point
[21:08] <jackarg> daftykins I'd just like to give it another try. I failed with the first option, but I really need windows. I have the licence for w8 so idk...hey I'm here for guidance if you say I can't do it I can't but that's all there is to it
[21:08] <roasted> hi
[21:08] <strap> Jordan_U: that's what it says in my fstab
[21:08] <jackarg> Jordan_U: "no LSB modules are available"
[21:09] <duxb> reisio, bazhang: I joined that channel, but when I try to chat there, it says "Cannot send to channel", any ideas?
[21:09] <bazhang> !register | duxb
[21:09] <k1l> duxb: register with freenode and login
[21:09] <k1l> !paste | subterfuge
[21:11] <tozen> orzo88: ??
[21:11] <subterfuge> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6007969/
[21:12] <orzo88> That isnt doable?
[21:12] <tozen> when you start your ubuntu do you see on kernel or more?
[21:12] <k1l> subterfuge: you got encryption?
[21:12] <Jordan_U> jackarg:Did you forget the "-a"?
[21:13] <subterfuge> k1l: yes
[21:13] <k1l> subterfuge: hmm, im not familiar with that :/
[21:13] <orzo88> it starts normally and goes to the login screen just fine
[21:13] <orzo88> Its when I login that the trouble starts
[21:13] <tozen> orzo88: well i mean do you see grub menu or no\/
[21:14] <tozen> *not??
[21:14] <jackarg> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/uTD0DLry
[21:14] <subterfuge> k1l: everything is working on that even, everything decrypts fine... it is just not making it to the GUI
[21:14] <Jordan_U> strap: What is the output of "sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi"?
[21:14] <orzo88> I dunno what those are, im a linux scrub :(
[21:14] <Jordan_U> strap: I will be gone for about half an hour.
[21:15] <strap> Jordan_U: ok well before you go i'm in a live session so do i chroot first?
[21:16] <tozen> orzo88:  ok when you rebooting you system just push on Shift key and hold it till you see GRUB menu with some boot options just have a check is there any more kernels aviable to boot or one only?
[21:16] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not playing mp3  or adding them to the library, I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[21:17] <vedrit> Okay. I need help again. I'm trying to share my second drive through Samba. I've followed the guides, but I still can't access it on any other computer
[21:17] <zaggynl> woo got amd multi monitor to work!
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> vedrit  try gigolo, it's a nice GUI
[21:18] <uhelp> how do I stop ubuntu from "helping" me by mounting drives -- especially when they are already mounted
[21:18] <uhelp> this is a terrible "feature" ... I feel 12.04.2 is way way worse than 8.04
[21:19] <gry> uhelp: No, this is a terrible default. Features are still there as before, and you can turn them on or off.
[21:19] <gry> uhelp: Possibly a bug, rather, since mounting a drive that's already mounted is not a desired default.
[21:19] <vedrit> MonkeyDust: The hosting machine is Ubuntu, all other computers are Windows
[21:19] <uhelp> gry: how do I turn this off -- thank you
[21:19] <subterfuge> k1l: any harm in running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[21:20] <gry> uhelp: What triggers the automount in your case?
[21:20] <k1l> subterfuge: no
[21:20] <uhelp> gry: the auto-mount appears to be triggered after a period of time but I am not sure
[21:20] <uhelp> it happened twice
[21:20] <gry> uhelp: See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Configuring_Automounting
[21:21] <gry> ... if that's your case... if not USB, please specify so.
[21:21] <uhelp> gry: going to your link
[21:21] <uhelp> gry: it is usb (usb-3 if it matters and I on on a Lenovo W530)
[21:21] <gry> Ok, I think it should be useful.
[21:21] <uhelp> gry: I mount the drive with something like sudo mount /dev/sdx /mount_here
[21:22] <gry> Strange. Would guess the system either have automount on, and you find yourself too late, or has it off (in which case it's a non-issue).
[21:22] <uhelp> gry: later it mounts the (already mounted) drive in some place like /media/f46b347f-9167-4456-a6eb-60001720bdfa
[21:24] <Jordan_U> strap: Yes, make sure that /boot/efi/ is mounted properly in the chroot though, as well as bind mounting /dev/ /proc/ and /sys/ (or use grub-install's --boot-directory option outside of the chroot).
[21:25] <strap> Jordan_U: alright well i did that and this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6008011/
[21:25] <jfactor> setting up dual monitors in ubuntu with AMD/ATI, when I go to fullscreen in an application using alt-enter (in dosbox for example) the monitors become mirrored, I really just want to fullscreen to go to one monitor. Can anyone offer a solution or point me to the proper chatroom?
[21:29] <zykotick9> jfactor: the old way, would be to use a NULL value in your xorg.conf... it's been too long since i've done it, so no real details to share.  but with the NULL, it will auto-disable 1 monitor when a program requests a specific resolution.
[21:30] <iceqb> ?
[21:30] <iceqb> ping
[21:30] <jfactor> zykotick9:thanks that might be a temporary solution but my hope was that I could still use the secondary monitor at the same time
[21:30] <styles> I formated a 1tb to ntfs that worked. Then I tried ext4 and it's saying is apparently in use by the system
[21:31] <styles> I can format it to NTFS though fine
[21:31] <zykotick9> jfactor: allowing the mouse to travel to both monitors (in some games) may NOT be what you really want... but good luck!
[21:31] <bluefox83> styles: make sure it's unmounted first >.>
[21:31] <styles> bluefox83, it's not mounted lol
[21:32] <jfactor> zykotick9: thanks
[21:32] <bluefox83> make sure that fsck or something isn't still running in the background, checking the drive for errors
[21:33] <bekks> bluefox83: fsck runs on unmounted fs only.
[21:33] <bekks> bluefox83: Otherwise, it cant fix errors, when the fs is mounted read-write.
[21:33] <styles> bluefox83, k
[21:33] <newhite_> How do I update java from java1.6.0_25 to Java1.7.0_25?
[21:33] <bluefox83> bekks: that's why styles needs to check to make sure it's not running...
[21:34] <bekks> !java | newhite_
[21:34] <styles> bluefox83, it's not
[21:34] <bluefox83> well something is using it...
[21:34] <styles> I don't think so
[21:35] <styles> I can format to NTFS it doesn't error out like that
[21:35] <styles> But on EXT2-3-4/s it does
[21:35] <bluefox83> what is that command...i think it's like lsof -l | grep /dev/drive
[21:35] <newhite_> ubottu thanks.  I need the JDK.
[21:35] <genii> newhite_: Alternately, there's the webupd8 team PPA which has all the Oracle Java versions
[21:35] <styles> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[21:35] <styles>       Output information may be incomplete.
[21:36] <bluefox83> ooooooh
[21:36] <bluefox83> you're running in a livecd then?
[21:36] <newhite_> genili I'll try the link sent by the bot.  Then I'll explore webupd8
[21:36] <styles> bluefox83, yeah trying to get my data transfered before I reformat
[21:36] <bluefox83> i'm doing the same thing hehe
[21:37] <styles> I have 2 drives and I'm trying to store it on 1 from the other then reformat
[21:37] <styles> any lucky?
[21:37] <bluefox83> eh, i'm using rsync across my network. it's slow but it's getting the job done
[21:37] <styles> both are internal drives
[21:37] <styles> in this case
[21:37] <styles> if I install first then try and format the drives, should it be ok?
[21:38] <bluefox83> it will format the one you're installing to
[21:38] <bluefox83> but any other drives/partitions wont
[21:38] <bluefox83> you'd still need to format them if that's what you want to do
[21:38] <styles> bluefox83, yeah but I'm not really able to format it
[21:39] <subterfuge> k1l: no joy with that... has anyone else fixed this yet while I was gone
[21:39] <styles> I guess not w/ a live cd?
[21:39] <bluefox83> eh, you'll be able to...i think you likely just need to restart
[21:39] <bluefox83> livecds can be wierd sometimes
[21:39] <styles> Tried that alraedy
[21:39] <styles> already*
[21:39] <bluefox83> really? O.o
[21:39] <holstein> live cd is what i would use to format it.. from gparted
[21:39] <styles> holstein, what file format?
[21:40] <holstein> styles: whatever is required
[21:40] <bluefox83> holstein is right
[21:40] <styles> yeah bluefox83  I've been dealing w/ this for a few days now lol
[21:40] <bluefox83> me too!
[21:40] <holstein> gparted does many formats.. when gparted has failed is when the hard drive is failing
[21:40] <styles> holstein, works fine on windows though
[21:40] <holstein> styles: test the hard drive
[21:40] <styles> how?
[21:40] <holstein> styles: i use a live CD and do a smart test
[21:40] <bluefox83> my problem is that i keep having issues with bad sectors...on a very large drive (1tb WD drive)
[21:41] <styles> I'll run that now holstein
[21:41] <styles> bluefox83, I have a 1tb wd as well
[21:41] <styles> err 2
[21:41] <styles> both are giving me massive issues on ubuntu
[21:41] <bluefox83> hrm
[21:41] <styles> Daemon is inhibited
[21:41] <bluefox83> i wonder if there wasn't a recent update in the kernels or something that's causing it?
[21:42] <holstein> styles: what daemon?
[21:42] <styles> Yeah smart check isn't really working
[21:42] <holstein> styles: ?
[21:42] <styles> Well it runs really fast
[21:42] <holstein> styles: i do a test, and the test takes over an hour
[21:42] <styles> yeah takes 30 seconds lol
[21:42] <styles> and most things are N/A
[21:42] <holstein> styles: then, do the long test, from a live CD
[21:43] <holstein> styles: i diagnostic live CD
[21:43] <styles> You mean a SMART self-test extended right?
[21:43] <styles> I'm on a live cd now
[21:43] <holstein> styles: i mean, literally whatever test gives me the information i need.. if one doesnt work, or run, i move on
[21:47] <styles> http://i.imgur.com/wLE59sN.png
[21:48] <holstein> styles: looks good, friend.. are you deciding to rule out hardware failure then?
[21:48] <styles> holstein, yeah I'm like spinning in circles not really knowing where to go from here
[21:48] <holstein> styles: try saying what you are trying to do
[21:49] <styles> My last attempt was format it to NTFS (it will do this), then I restart GParted and it's marked as not working
[21:49] <styles> And it never mounts
[21:49] <holstein> why ntfs?
[21:49] <stripe> hi all, I have a question if you can help, can the menus be put back on the windows from the task-bar without having to perform a 3rd party hack? cheers
[21:49] <holstein> i woudnt ask windows to make me an ext formatted drive
[21:49] <styles> Because EXT2-3-4 aren't even an option. It says it's busy
[21:49] <reisio> I wouldn't ask it to do anything :D
[21:49] <styles> I'm on a live cd
[21:50] <styles> ubuntu live cd 12.04
[21:50] <bluefox83> reisio: me either :p
[21:50] <reisio> stripe: I think so
[21:50] <holstein> styles: they *are* an option
[21:50] <holstein> styles: elaborate as to what you are trying to do and why
[21:50] <stripe> thanks reisio
[21:50] <jhutchins> styles: It might be a good idea to power off and check the cabling, re-seat it.
[21:51] <styles> jhutchins, I can.. but it works fine in my windows partition
[21:51] <stripe> is it a new drive?
[21:51] <holstein> or, replace the cables if you have spares
[21:51] <styles> Uh I guess? I mean few months
[21:51] <reisio> stripe: check the tweak tool
[21:51] <styles> Never worked under ubuntu
[21:51] <bluefox83> jhutchins: your nick reminds me of someoen i am related to >.>
[21:51] <holstein> styles: what never worked where?
[21:51] <styles> I have two drives, both NTFS (built in windows) tried to initially mount them using ntfs-3g
[21:51] <bluefox83> *someone
[21:51] <styles> The drives never worked under Ubuntu
[21:51] <holstein> styles: ntfs doesnt 'auto mount" with write privs
[21:51] <styles> Right. I couldn't even get them to mount as read only
[21:51] <holstein> styles: i use whatever i want where ever i want, and it works as i make it work
[21:52] <holstein> styles: try now, and report the errors.. try from the command line and give the *exact* errors
[21:52] <holstein> styles: or, try another format.. or other cables. or other machine.. or other live CD. or other operating system
[21:52] <miebster_atwork_> I'm mounting nfs from my /etc/fstab.  The mount directory is owned by root after the drive is mounted.  How can I make it owned by my user?
[21:52] <holstein> styles: try not sitting still, and talking about what is not happening..
[21:52] <OerHeks> styles windows 8 by any chance?
[21:53] <stripe> partition table?
[21:53] <holstein> styles: make something happen.. if you want ntfs format, format it ntsf and mount and share errors
[21:53] <styles> http://privatepaste.com/d5762d2c0e
[21:53] <styles> that's the fdisk output
[21:54] <holstein> styles: the devices dosnt have a valid partition table.. did you address that?
[21:55] <holstein> styles: did you "fix" the partition table? in the menu? in gparted?
[21:56] <styles> Trying right now, but not exactly working. I've removed all the partitions from the drive. Applied it. So I have 1tb unallocated.
[21:57] <styles> Now if I attempt to allocate it to new partition it will error out.  "/dev/sdc1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!"
[21:57] <styles> This was EXT4 if I try NTFS it will work, BUT it wont mount.
[21:58] <holstein> styles: in gparted, i select "device" - "create a partition table"
[21:58] <holstein> styles: i "fix" that.. then, i make whatever partition i want, and format. then i mount
[21:59] <holstein> if i wanted an ntfs partition, and i had windows around, i would let windows do it
[21:59] <zykotick9> miebster_atwork_: IF, your user IDs are the same on client/server - then just change it on the server.  most likely, you'll probably just want to give the Other group r/w.
[22:00] <nyuszika7h> hi, I've been trying to find a solution ever since I installed Ubuntu 2 weeks ago - the alert sound when a program triggers a bell does not work. it works in the sound settings, but when a program triggers a bell, nothing happens...
[22:00] <nyuszika7h> using Ubuntu 13.04
[22:00] <kwtm> Hi. If I have a file "brmfcfaxcups-1.0.0-1.i386.deb" and I want to see if that file has been installed, how do I check?  I do not know the name of the package that this *.deb file represents (otherwise I could do "apt-cache policy <package name>");  I guess I need to somehow find the package name from this .deb file and then search for this package?
[22:01] <styles> holstein, thank you and bluefox83 I'm going to restart and try this
[22:01] <nyuszika7h> my guess would be it's called brmfcfaxcups
[22:01] <holstein> kwtm: i might just look in a package manager like synaptic
[22:02] <kwtm> holstein: What does that mean, "look in"?  Would synaptic be able to tell me the name of a package of a file I separately downloaded, not from a standardf repository?
[22:02] <kwtm> nyuszika7h: Good guess; I would guess the same.  How would I verify this?
[22:02] <nyuszika7h> not sure, tried `apt-cache policy brmfcfaxcups`?
[22:03] <holstein> kwtm: i would open synaptic and search and see if the package is installed
[22:03] <kwtm> nyuszika7h: Yes, tried.
[22:03] <kwtm> holstein: Search for what package?  I am trying to determine the package name: as I said:     " I do not know the name of the package that this *.deb file represents (otherwise I could do "apt-cache policy <package name>")"
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-file
[22:03] <holstein> kwtm: synaptic would be able to see a *.deb file that ws installed..
[22:03] <zykotick9> kwtm: "dpkg -c brmfcfaxcups-1.0.0-1.i386.deb" should list the contents... might give come clues.
[22:04] <kwtm> Dr_Willis: Thank you, will try.
[22:04] <nyuszika7h> or dpkg -I
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> if you used the package manager tools to install the .deb  holstein  yes.
[22:04] <kwtm> zykotick9: Thanks.
[22:04] <nyuszika7h> `dpkg -I brmfcfaxcups-1.0.0-1.i386.deb`, more specifically
[22:04] <miebster_atwork_> zykotick9: I think you misunderstood
[22:04] <holstein> Dr_Willis: i shouldnt assume..
[22:04] <miebster_atwork_> zykotick9: the server lets me write to it, but on my client I have to type "sudo touch foo" to write to it, because on my client it shows up as "root" owned once its mounted
[22:06] <zykotick9> miebster_atwork_: ahhh, even after re-reading your question... i still have the same answer???  right, so on the server side, change the permission to allow OTHER to read/write (i go to great lengths to be sure my main user is 1000 on all systems, to avoid this problem with NFS)
[22:06] <Vinnie_win> Why is it so damn hard to grab the edge of the terminal window for a resize, especially the right side where the scrollbar thumb always appears out of nowhere at the worst time?
[22:06] <dougl> can anyone recommend a way to customize grub...       ?     ?
[22:06] <miebster_atwork_> zykotick9: I have nothing to do with the server side, again you are mis understanding me
[22:06] <reisio> dougl: in what way?
[22:06] <zykotick9> miebster_atwork_: ok sorry, i can't help you.  good luck.
[22:07] <holstein> !grub | dougl i suggest leaving it alone
[22:07] <reisio> Vinnie_win: you can disable the scrollbar thing :)
[22:07] <kwtm> Thanks all.  Able to list .deb file contents but still not able to find the official name of the package that would be installed once I install the .deb file, but I've got enough to keep me going.  Will continue to check.  Thx!
[22:07] <miebster_atwork_> zykotick9: I have a directory on my system /opt/foobar ,it is owned by my user account user1, when the nfs is mounted, the directory says its owned by root, when the mount happens, the owner of the dir changes
[22:07] <dougl> reisio, just did a distupgrade after installing a new drive with windows on it and I guess there was a kernel in the update adn when grub went auto learning it found it and configd so I can dual boot but the menu looks a little hideous...
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> dougl, The boot splash?
[22:07] <dougl> err grub 2
[22:07] <Vinnie_win> reisio: Is there a way to just always have the scrollbar like Windows / Mac? And how do I make the border thicker? it seems like you have to land on exactly 1 pixel to get a resize cursor.
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> grub menu that is
[22:08] <dougl> wilee-nilee, that would be nice
[22:08] <zykotick9> miebster_atwork_: "i understand", but i still can't help you.  good luck (don't include my nic in future, hopefully someone else has an answer for you)
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> dougl, There was a thread on the ubuntu forums and if you look on the web there is stuff, be careful is all and know how to be able to purge and reinstall grub.
[22:09] <miebster_atwork_> Can somsone show me an fstab entry that mounts an NFS share as read/write and leaves the owner of the mount point as the user (and doesn't change it to root?) surely this can't be a rare use case?
[22:09] <reisio> dougl: you can do a lot with it, including just hiding it if you want
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> dougl, You can easily change the background
[22:09] <dougl> wilee-nilee, now that ypou mention it... why fix it if it aint broken... it is not even up there for a munute
[22:09] <reisio> Vinnie_win: right it's intended for you to use the pop out thing by default
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> dougl, I just used a cool background, but yeah I would agree.
[22:10] <dougl> I thot the background would have been easy...
[22:10] <reisio> Vinnie_win: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-disable-overlay-scrollbars-in.html :)
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> I have hal the computer eye in mine from 2001 space odessey
[22:10] <reisio> Vinnie_win: and in general if you want a more Windows-like experience, you might want to switch from Unity to Xfce, or KDE, or GNOME 3 with some heavy modification
[22:10] <dougl> nice....
[22:12] <alfonsojon> Hi
[22:12] <alfonsojon> Is Ubuntu Touch just glorified Android?
[22:12] <alfonsojon> Or is it it's own OS?
[22:12] <Vinnie_win> reisio: I'd like to mess with the Ubuntu installation as little as possible to be honest
[22:13] <holstein> !touch | alfonsojon
[22:13] <holstein> alfonsojon: its not android
[22:13] <alfonsojon> I know but it seems to use components from it
[22:13] <alfonsojon> well then again, this enables more devices
[22:13] <alfonsojon> nevermind
[22:13] <holstein> alfonsojon: like, the linux kernel?
[22:13] <alfonsojon> I heard it uses SurfaceFlinger
[22:13] <alfonsojon> instead of mir
[22:14] <alfonsojon> The reason is so that proprietary Android device GPU drivers work on it
[22:14] <alfonsojon> I'm not sure if this is true though
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> ive heard it has its own challen for discussion of the Touch OS. ;)
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> channel
[22:14] <holstein> alfonsojon: i would have to refer to the resources i linked for you
[22:14] <alfonsojon> I'm heading over to #ubuntu-touch
[22:14] <alfonsojon> didn't realise it had its own channel already
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> and ill belive it when i actually see the devices out. ;)   but im a a bit of a sckeptic with n ew hardware these days
[22:15] <kwtm2> Where do I put/modify permission to use USB devices?  It can't find my USB scanner.  With an earlier version of Ubuntu I used to be able to modify a file called /etc/udev/rules.d/40-basic-permissions.rules  but that file no longer exists.  Is it moved to a different place? (Currently using 12.04 LTS)
[22:16] <holstein> kwtm2: you shouldnt need to.. try just using a scanning application
[22:16] <kwtm2> holstein: Tried. Error: not detected. What now?
[22:18] <holstein> kwtm2: could be a few things.. i would load the distro that was working with the scanner live (assuming that is a possibility.. and see that the device is not broken. i would then run "lsusb" in the current setup, and see that the device is there
[22:18] <zykotick9> kwtm2: in a terminal, if you type "groups" are you in the scanner group?  [dangerous, but if you use gksudo with your scanner application, does it find the scanner?]
[22:18] <holstein> i would then, take that line to a search engine and do "scanner version ubuntu version" and see if anything helpful comes up.. or you can ask here
[22:18] <genii> Alternately, plugdev group.
[22:20] <crankharder> why ntp no work? https://gist.github.com/crankharder/bdac1d98888ccb87bb4b
[22:20] <diphtherial> hello; is it possible to mount a usb drive while you're booted into the liveCD, and if so how would you go about it...?
[22:20] <holstein> crankharder: a time server?
[22:20] <diphtherial> mounting storage is still a mystery to me :\ i'm not sure what the process is that you're supposed to take to do it
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> diphtherial, plug it in it should just mount
[22:21] <bekks> crankharder: Wrong syntax. Correct syntax: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[22:21] <diphtherial> ah, wait, i think he's just at the root recovery prompt...
[22:21] <eden_> Anyone know a good way to identify songs?
[22:21] <diphtherial> (apologies, attempting to advise someone remotely)
[22:21] <holstein> eden_: by title
[22:21] <diphtherial> let me get some more information and then i'll ask a more reasonable question
[22:21] <zykotick9> bekks: fyi, using ntpdate IF the user has ntpd running, is a bad idea...
[22:22] <eden_> holstein, you listen it to a movie
[22:22] <delinquentme> does anyone else happen to have a track pad thats a little too liberal in its movement?
[22:22] <bekks> zykotick9: Yeah, I know that.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | delinquentme
[22:22] <zykotick9> bekks: ok, just checkin' ;)
[22:22] <holstein> eden_: you want to know the music from a movie? i would search that online
[22:22] <bekks> zykotick9: ;)
[22:22] <delinquentme> I know im hitting spaces and sometimes my cursor leaps to wholly different places OTHER than its intended location ... Is there a solution for this?
[22:23] <delinquentme> its kind of an annoyance ... and in code can be really detrimental
[22:23] <moondog> delinquentme: disable the trackpad in the bios
[22:23] <eden_> holstein, if you are using android then you should know what shazam or soundhound is i want to be able to identift a song title
[22:23] <reisio> delinquentme: most laptops have a dedicated trackpad disable toggle
[22:23] <reisio> delinquentme: Fn + someNumberKey
[22:24] <reisio> or space bar
[22:24] <reisio> otherwise you can make one using xinput
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> eden_, This is ubuntu not android it has no relevance here.
[22:24] <holstein> eden_: this is the ubuntu support channel.. i would just use shazam it you want.. or search online for the application you are seeking.. maybe a webapp
[22:24] <Monotoko> Is there a way to send a process to another user?
[22:24] <reisio> eden_: there are websites for that
[22:24] <reisio> the mobile apps tend to be glorified frontends to them
[22:24] <eden_> reisio, i can't find anything that works for me can you suggest anything?
[22:24] <delinquentme> except I use the track pad moondog reisio
[22:24] <reisio> Monotoko: to another term, yes
[22:25] <reisio> delinquentme: except what?
[22:25] <moondog> delinquentme: well there's your problem!
[22:25] <bekks> reisio: How would you send a process to another terminal?
[22:25] <moondog> j/k
[22:25] <reisio> eden_: well the mobile apps don't work so wonderfully IME, either
[22:25] <delinquentme> The ideal solution would be something that tunes down the sensitivity to a given threshold
[22:25] <reisio> bekks: reptyr
[22:25] <delinquentme> moondog, OIC nao!
[22:25] <bekks> reisio: ah, thx
[22:25] <Monotoko> reisio: I have an irssi session open in screen
[22:25] <Monotoko> I was wondering if it was possible to bounce it to another user without disconnecting
[22:25] <reisio> Monotoko: probably, with reptyr
[22:26] <holstein> eden_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3994221/can-you-suggest-web-api-for-music-identification-service-like-shazam
[22:28] <basant> where could I look for some win 7 help or anyone who has used/uses it
[22:28] <Jordan_U> basant: ##windows
[22:28] <reisio> basant: help with... using Windows?
[22:29] <Guest57151> ciao
[22:29] <diphtherial> hey, is /mnt generally read-only if you're trying to modify it from the recovery root shell?
[22:30] <preben> Hi. Is there a page that explains how to get the RADEON xorg driver to make my fan go quiet? The 5 years I have used fglrx I have not heard the fan, but now with radeon in 13.04 it is so loud it is unbearable
[22:30] <diphtherial> a friend of mine is getting fouled up at that point, told that the filesystem is read only
[22:30] <reisio> diphtherial: it might default to read only, I don't know
[22:30] <zykotick9> diphtherial: if your in recovery mode, i believe the file system is read only
[22:30] <bekks> diphtherial: The entire filesystem is read-only then.
[22:30] <reisio> diphtherial: you can remount it as read-write if so
[22:30] <diphtherial> ah, right, i'd like to mount it read-write, then...
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> diphtherial:  all of / is read only from a recovery shell. in order to let you fsck it easially
[22:31] <mnmt> It seems I broke ubuntu and I can't find any solution on the docs, anyone want to try to help for a bit?
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> bbl - work time fors me.
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> !details | mnmt
[22:31] <reisio> diphtherial: mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever
[22:31] <basant> reisio, well it is jsut that I am using host win 7 and guest ubuntu and I could not get the printer to work correctly with the guest. I figured that if I write the simple text file in a shared folder ( via vbox ) and then try to use a printing program to kee monitoring the folder and print anything new I can get it to work but alas !!!. The program I got  ---  http://www.lerup.com/printfile/    does not even print a simple txt file.  T
[22:31] <basant> he file appears unformatted via notepad and formattted via wordpad
[22:32] <reisio> basant: mmm, you can probably get the printer working, but I'd ask #vbox about it
[22:32] <reisio> or indeed, #windows
[22:32] <diphtherial> reisio: thanks :)
[22:32] <diphtherial> by the way, this is the same dude whose party i declined; i saw your memo about that, took me a while to figure it out
[22:32] <reisio> heheh
[22:33] <reisio> yeah I figured
[22:33] <mnmt> Sure, When I try to boot into Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (using grub) all that appears is a single blinking underscore in the top left. A command line login appears for a second before returning to the state before. No key press causes any reaction except for the power off, the following message appears:
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Tell the channel whats up if anyones knows they will probably answer you want the option of anyones help.
[22:33] <diphtherial> we had a bit of a talk about my social anxiety, which was fun :x i think he forgave me
[22:33] <mnmt> acpid: exiting
[22:33] <reisio> social anxiety isn't worth it, I know from experience :)
[22:33] <mnmt> Checking for running unattended-upgrades
[22:33] <mnmt> speech-dispatcher disabled
[22:34] <mnmt> speech-dispatcher disabled: edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Did it ever run correctly, do you have proprietary graphic drivers installed?
[22:35] <sergio_> hi
[22:35] <mnmt> Its worked before, this happened when I used the update manager, chose restart to install updates, accidently chose windows 7 at grub so at windows login screen pressed restart and chose ubuntu at grub, which lead to this problem
[22:35] <reisio> hi Guest95841
[22:37] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not playing mp3  or adding them to the library, I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[22:37] <Guest95841> can anyone help me with reapairing a damages uefi boot? I tryed installed a dual boot win8 and ubuntu 13.04 in a ultrabook
[22:37] <reisio> xkernel: how many have you tried?
[22:37] <xkernel> reisio, tried what?
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Use nicks, and answer questions.
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> I asked two questions
[22:39] <mnmt> How do I use nicks. As for drivers, I had changed to nvidea 320 experimental, but that was at least 4 succesful logins ago
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> !tab | mnmt
[22:39] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, So like this?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, If you use the drivers from nvidia they will not follow kernel upgrades, you want the ones in the repos. Yeah perfect on the nick. ;)
[22:41] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, Silly steam, telling me to change graphic driver. So How do I roll back update/change driver?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, YOu can use what drivers you want but want to be informed of the consequences is all. ;)
[22:41] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, Within windows :/
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, In ubuntu windows drivers in windows have no relevance
[22:42] <Woodsman> hey, i was wondering how to change it so that the directories and files are color coded when i ls. i uncommented the lines in .bashrc relating to directory colors but nothing changed, even after restarting the terminal. any ideas?
[22:42] <phillyj> hey guys, why do i have to create a Ubuntu One account to get into my ubuntuforums.com account?
[22:42] <phillyj> i'm sick of making useless accounts
[22:43] <paul_beginner> hi!
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, I saw that ask them.
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> phillyj, There is a #ubuntuforums channel
[22:43] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, Sorry, am slightly confused. So by updating kernal with the nvidea drivers meant that ubuntu won't launch correctly. So can I fix it?
[22:43] <phillyj> ok
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Yoiur setup in windows will not affect ubuntu if you have a partitioned install, is this a wubi?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> your*
[22:44] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, For all I know, a file browser in windows could edit a config to fix it. I know nothing though :P
[22:44] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, Thats what I meant anyway. They are dual boot partitioned
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Separate OS, nothing related except the mbr
[22:45] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, Ok
[22:47] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, Can it be fixed? Without wiping it?
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, All my comments except confirming your windows setup in relation to ubuntu are ubuntu relevance, I.E. the nvidia drivers if that was what you were referencing
[22:48] <jkvillegas> i'm not able to sync my samsung s3 using rhythbox neither clementine
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, fix what, you have mixed windows in with this conversation it is difficult to tell exactly what you have done in ubuntu.
[22:49] <celal> #ubuntu-de
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, If you need to remove the drivers and add the repos in ubuntu the channel is better there I have never had to load a graphic driver.
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> repos driver*
[22:50] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, When I try to boot into ubuntu, there is bascily just a black screen with a blinking underscore
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Right and have you added the drivers from other than ther ubuntu repos?
[22:50] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, I can't currently use ubuntu
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> the*
[22:51] <mnmt> wilee-nilee, It seems I had
[22:51] <mnmt> wilee-nilee,  Though I am not sure, the driver was there ready to "activate"
[22:51] <ryan__> Can somebody please help me?
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Cool have the channel direct you on removing them and installing the ones from the repos, I'm just not up on that.
[22:51] <paul_beginner> whats the matter ryan?
[22:52] <ryan__> I just got Ubuntu again, how do I get Gnome 2 back?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, Ah a restricted driver add from software sources?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> ryan__, The closest is the fallback gnome 2 is not available.
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> or the cinnamon desktop avaolable in 13.04 is kinda like it
[22:53] <ryan__> but I remember in Ubuntu 12.04 I had the classic Ubuntu desktop - how would I get it? I can't stand Unity.
[22:54] <zykotick9> !notunity | ryan__
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> ryan__, classice is the fallback and use nicks here.
[22:54] <ryan__> Wait what? three people said something at once and I'm confused xD
[22:55] <vedrit> Can anyone help me with Samba? I've read and followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide#Ubuntu_Server and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html but I still can't get my drive to be accessible from my Windows machine
[22:56] <mnmt> Right so having chatted to wilee-nilee, anyone here know how I can remove a nvidea ubuntu driver and replace it with propriatary, seems a kernal update now stops me being able to lauch ubuntu properly
[22:56] <vedrit> Wait, I think I was looking through the wrong uide
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> ryan__, Two people one was a bot trigger making it seem like 3, all saying the same.
[22:57] <ryan__> What's the whole '!nountiy' thing about
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> mnmt, The term proprietary references to nvidia downloads, that is what you don;t want for correct syntax here. Although the one not working might have that term used so it is a bit complex in the word usage.
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> ryan__, YOu want it sounds like the classic desktop, now called the fallback it comes with the gnome-shell install, it is just a psuedo gnome 2 desktop
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> ryan__, I believe it the fallback can be installed by itself, not sure the commands.
[23:00] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ahhh, does fallback really come with the gnome-shell package?  I'd find that surprising.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I thought it did, I have not messed with it and now it is part of some release again.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> saucy I think
[23:01] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: well, according to !notunity - it says install "gnome-panel"???
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, hold on let me logout I have the shell in 13.04
[23:03] <paul_beginner> hey.. i'm absolute beginner with any linux. i installed ubuntu 12.04.2 with virtual box, but when I start I only get a login prompt in a console. does someone have a clue what I'm doing wrong? :/
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I think it is included with the shell it is in my 13.04 the panel install is just the fallback install I believe
[23:05] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ok, i guess that make some sense ;)
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, In general gnome and ubuntu seem to be trying to keep those that can't adapt happy, those pooooooor folk, lol. ;)
[23:05] <zykotick9> paul_beginner: did you install the server version?  what was the ISO called that you used to install?
[23:06] <paul_beginner> let me check
[23:06] <lgc> What's the dpkg option to dump a list of installed software?
[23:06] <paul_beginner> ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386 from the ubuntu.com
[23:07] <zykotick9> paul_beginner: that's the regular, desktop ISO.  don't know why you are getting a console only?  best of luck - someone else might have some suggestions.
[23:07] <paul_beginner> thank you anyways.. maybe I redo the process. its just 5 minutes :)
[23:08] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: i was one of those "pooooor" folk - so i left both U & Gnome... reverted to my earlier WM only days ;)
[23:09] <mnmt> Anyone know how to uninstall a propriatary nvidea driver and go back to the default using the emergency command line?
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I use unity for a year or two then switched to the shell, but basically use the cairo dock and synapse to find or launch stuff.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> I use W8 often lately, and I started my computer use with open source
[23:10] <paul_beginner> mnmt: maybe this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1432857
[23:11] <xmetal> :O @ a MS OS? .. :P and you get on me for that minty OS
[23:11] <xmetal> :P
[23:11] <mnmt> paul_beginner, Thanks will try this out. Sorry I couln't find the page myself
[23:12] <paul_beginner> np :D
[23:14] <emurillo510> do any of you guys know of a onenote alternative?
[23:15] <emurillo510> or a more general question how do you take notes on ubuntu?
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> !text
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> !texteditor | emurillo510
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> derp
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> !editor
[23:16] <bluebomber> I'm getting this error when I try to remove a package: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. Can anyone lend a hand?
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> !editor | emurillo510
[23:17] <bluebomber> (it's accompanied by more output than I feel comfortable pasting here)
[23:17] <emurillo510> !html
[23:19] <paul_beginner> how do I know which version I need. the 32bit or 64bit to run ubuntu in VirtulBox on Win7?
[23:19] <basant> #windows has very less people. Can someone tell me why I can see a file perfectly when viewed via gedit  or wordpad in windows ( notepad leaves out the \n) but I print it via http://www.lerup.com/printfile/
[23:20] <basant> I have written a text file but cannot get to print it !! . how much lamer can I get ?
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, What you need is what you need?
[23:21] <bluebomber> Can someone help me with unresolved dependency issues that only show up when I try to do an apt-get remove or an aptitude remove?
[23:21] <paul_beginner> huh?
[23:21] <zykotick9> paul_beginner: 32bit is the "safe" choice.
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> !details | bluebomber
[23:22] <paul_beginner> okay i stick to that
[23:22] <paul_beginner> thanks
[23:22] <zykotick9> bluebomber: does "sudo apt-get -f install" run through without issues?
[23:23] <bluebomber> zykotick9: Yes.
[23:23] <bluebomber> wilee-nilee: I just did prior to that message. I'll copy it again: "I'm getting this error when I try to remove a package: E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. Can anyone lend a hand?" Ubuntu 13.04 64b
[23:23] <zykotick9> bluebomber: so, what are you trying to remove - and what is the output?  can you paste both to paste.ubuntu.com?
[23:23] <bluebomber> zykotick9: libxml2
[23:24] <bluebomber> zykotick9: aptitude recommends a series of 500+ changes when I try to remove it.
[23:24] <zykotick9> bluebomber: why are you trying to remove that?
[23:25] <bluebomber> zykotick9: I have another issue that I thought I could fix by removing that.
[23:25] <bluebomber> zykotick9: Is the pkgProblemResolver error I referenced above expected in this situation, then?
[23:26] <zykotick9> bluebomber: it's NOT something you should remove!  check the output of "apt-cache rdepends libxml2", LOTS of stuff needs that package!
[23:27] <Poodle448> how do i add Guake Terminal to my startup applications?
[23:27] <bluebomber> zykotick9: Ahh, ok, so it's an error, because it can't figure out *how* to remove it, because of all the other packages dependant on it?
[23:27] <zykotick9> bluebomber: apt-get and aptitude are probably just breaking, trying to figure out what to do to "try" and remove that package.
[23:27] <Poodle448> how do i add Guake Terminal to my startup applications?
[23:29] <Poodle448> How do you make Guake Terminal startup when you login on Ubuntu??
[23:30] <paul_beginner> "Goto System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications.
[23:30] <paul_beginner> The Startup Application Preferences window opens. In the Startup Programs tab click on Edit Button.  Give a Name for the Application in the Name field, and then type “guake” without quotes in the command field and click Save.  Then close the Startup Application Preferences window and restat the machine, now Guake should start automatically on login."
[23:30] <Poodle448> Thank you
[23:31] <bluebomber> zykotick9: Thanks for your assistance, it's greatly appreciated.
[23:31] <zykotick9> bluebomber: i'm afraid it's a "thanks for nothing", sorry 'bout that.
[23:32] <bluebomber> zykotick9: Well, it makes sense from the perspective you explained.
[23:33] <Moe> ubottu is a bot
[23:33] <Moe> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
[23:38] <paul_beginner> okay so now the os starts  correctly and tells me my graphics are set on low due to no drivers detected. Do I run in low-graphics or should I try to config them with the console? My GC is a ATI HD 5800
[23:38] <vedrit> Is there a way to use the NFS to share drives with Window's devices? I don't see any mention in the help page about it
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> vedrit, ubuntu will read MS partitioning, are the hard drives in the computer
[23:42] <vedrit> Ubuntu is reading the drive just fine, but I can't get my Windows machine to access it, even after marking it as shared
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> vedrit, MS does not read ext4 in general without an ancient driver of some sort at least ext2 and 3, a shared ntfs partition is advised generally.
[23:42] <vedrit> This is a separate drive within the server
[23:42] <vedrit> The drive I'm wanting to share is NTFS
[23:43] <Sivik> have you tried with samba vedrit
[23:43] <vedrit> Yeah. No luck
[23:43] <vedrit> I've tried samba and NFS
[23:43] <Sivik> i blame windows
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> vedrit, this a raid setup and I'm not sure I understand what it is you want.
[23:44] <vedrit> I want to share a second drive, that is not part of Ubuntu but is in the same machine that is running Ubuntu, with another computer
[23:44] <vedrit> As a network resource
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> Ah, cool others will be best in this. ;)
[23:45] <vedrit> I'm sure I have something wrong in samba, but I have no idea what
[23:45] <k1l> mount that drive and share that drive with sambe
[23:45] <k1l> !samba | vedrit
[23:49] <paul_beginner> got to desktop YAY
[23:56] <hakuga> hello, what audio player do you use ? I came from Windows and I really like foobar. Is there a foobar-like on GNU/Linux ?